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Barack’s Hallelujah Moment?

Praise the Lord he’s seen the light? After 20 years of apparently sleeping thru Jeremiah Wright’s hatefilled, racist sermons, Barack is calling it quits. Does this include Michelle and the kids? No word yet. Will the kids still be subjected to this hate?

A burning question is why is Barack doing this now? Could it be that since there are no more primaries in states with significant numbers of African Americans he can throw those folks away? Let’s pause to recall what Barack had to say about his church. He spread this brochure throughout the South:
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Remember when he said he could not disown Jeremiah?

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

But he did. He tossed away Jeremiah Wright.

Barack told us that “words matter.” We believe him. That is why we remember his words about his new young Pastor?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, the new pastor — the young pastor, Reverend Otis Moss, is a wonderful young pastor.

And as I said, I still very much value the Trinity community.

This — I’ll be honest, this obviously has put strains on that relationship, not because of the members or because of Reverend Moss but because this has become such a spectacle.

I guess we can be sure of one thing. Barack is not a bitter man. Or, at least not a bitter white working class stiff. He surely is not clinging to his religion (and I don’t know about guns).

So where does he go? I guess Michael Pfleger’s Catholic parish is out of the question. Probably should add Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam to that list. Maybe he’ll decide to do with black liberation theology what he has done with cigarettes–publicly swear it off but sneak it on the side.

This does not put to bed the legitimate questions about Barack’s judgment in hanging with this group of haters. Do you remember when he warned black audiences in the South that they were being bamboozled and hoodwinked. Well, he was right. But it turns out he was the bamboozler and hoodwinker in chief. And this is change we should believe in? Suckers!!

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Comment by gigglechick | 2008-05-31 17:18:49

he’s disloyal! and a quitter!

(wish he would quit campaigning, too)

 

Comment by artist | 2008-05-31 17:21:57

This is a transparent political GIMMICK!

Comment by BernieO | 2008-05-31 17:47:53

But the mainstream media will buy it and say it is over as an issue.

Comment by rojo | 2008-05-31 18:45:35

Oh no they won’t.

You can bet McCain and the republicans are going to hit it big, but from the angle that proves what a lying hypocrit Obama is.

Obama got a $100,000 EARMARK for Father Pfleger’s church. That directly contradicts several Obama stands:

Earmarks
Special Interests and his return favors
Father Pfleger, I hardly knew ye

He doesn’t get to end it with this patronizing move.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-05-31 18:41:42

Isn`t convenient that Father Phlegm came out so it would give him a chance to leave the church. This phony can`t fool me for a minute.

 

Comment by HARP | 2008-05-31 18:42:10

Isn`t it convenient that Father Phlegm came out so it would give him a chance to leave the church. This phony can`t fool me for a minute.

 

Comment by Kat Bee | 2008-05-31 19:08:17

Obama’s press conference statement does not make sense. It is internally inconsistent and defends TUCC. I agree it is a political gimmick only after all the big AA states have voted.

 
 

Comment by GregA | 2008-05-31 17:22:31

Wow, after all this, he quits the church now??? I mean, why not before the campgain? At this point, for campaign purposes he this accomplishes NOTHING. And this makes his chuch, the fact that he would back stab his church, makes it more of a liability…

Just wow, I didn’t think it was possible for me to respect someone less than Bush…

Comment by Bobbski | 2008-05-31 17:30:36

Can there be any doubt that there are more embarrassment to come from Trinity?

He is trying to distance himself for the sh*t storm on the horizon.

Any doubt that he uis a weasel of the first order should now be erased. For anyone not consuming “The One” Kool-Aid, that is.

 

Comment by BernieO | 2008-05-31 17:54:17

I was just talking with a friend about the fact that Axelrod was grossly negligent not to have seen this coming. Even Karl Rove had the sense to have Bush distance himself from the far right in the Texas Republican party when he was preparing to run. I remember reading that Bush skipped a big meeting (something like the state Republican convention)because they were so extreme and Rove knew that Bush needed to look more mainstream. What the heck is wrong with Axelrod that he did not get Obama to distance himself back when Obama ran for the Senate?

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-05-31 18:29:50

Or at least pay off Pfleger, Meeks and Wright to keep a lid on it through the primary season. Make monthly payments and threaten to withhold if they fall out of line.

 

Comment by karen for Clinton | 2008-05-31 18:31:38

Check out the article here on St. Sabin’s. Axelrod is just as much a part of this as ob.

Ax didn’t throw it under the bus and nobody believes ob did either.

 

Comment by No Fraudz | 2008-05-31 19:14:00

I wouldn’t be surprised if that gig by the goodly Father was another ’staged’ production to allow for this very ‘exit’ from the Trinity stage.

Possibly, he was given an outline of the desired outcome, and all he had to do was choose from any of his favourite themes and deliver. His abrupt ending, and sudden recollection of the danger he was putting the Church in, was unbelievable, to say the least.

It is clear that the machiavellian approach to this whole campaign has built-in tactics to counter any potentially deadly event. On the other hand, they will themselves build into the design, deadly tactics to meet their ends, by any means necessary, as they see fit.

It’s like a war that being waged on every possible level. Too much is at stake, clearly.

The mistake is to believe their lying words and trust their shameless faces.

Yes, this is a very complicated, difficult
parasite to untangle oneself from, as it has been at work within the bowels of the party for sometime. And may have built nests outside as well.

Only those who have faced real guerrilla tactics, or read about them, or studied truly deceptive, power-hungry characters, and who understand that there are those who will camouflage their real intent, by using apparently innocent looking practices of the average law-abiding, civil group, will be able to fully see through these ploys.

That means that most of us at this site, have lots more work to do…..educating….as the info slowly trickles out.

Keep the faith, the Cause is more than worthwhile!!

 
 
 

Comment by Dakinikat | 2008-05-31 17:22:53

Sheesh, first he throws the grandmother that raised him under the bus, than Wright, now the entire church, it’s new pastor and his friend the priest he got all those earmarks in congress for … isn’t opportunism an interest thing?

Watch out Michelle! If there is a whitey tape, and it does come out … I’d be in search of a REALLY good divorce lawyer!

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-31 17:23:16

The AA community bet on the wronnnnnng horse.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-31 17:42:39

A TROJAN hourse.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-31 17:43:45

** horse **

 

Comment by LBJ's Love Child | 2008-05-31 17:58:05

I wish his dad had used a Trojan.

Comment by Nicole | 2008-05-31 18:15:02

 

Comment by stxabuela | 2008-05-31 18:34:35

 
 
 

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-05-31 18:31:14

Not all in the AA community. I met quite a few smart AAs at the Hillary office in Portland, flew there on their own dime.

Comment by Pittsburgh4Hillary08 | 2008-05-31 23:22:15

yes and there are AAs here on this site I am an African American who has no attention of drinking koolaid not now not ever

 
 

Comment by rojo | 2008-05-31 18:50:11

He now needs to court the white side of himself. He thinks he’s got the AA vote already sewn up tight.

 
 

Comment by Mr X | 2008-05-31 17:23:48

The biggest casuality out of all this will be the faith in the process of democracy.

Comment by Dakinikat | 2008-05-31 17:29:23

Frankly, I think affirmative action and the AA community are going to be the losers here … I think there’s going to be a backlash to all of this and it’s not going to be pretty. I just would like to hope this wouldn’t be the case but I think it will.

Comment by churl | 2008-05-31 17:33:50

Unfortunately, there will be collateral damage in the Precious Campaign; affirmative action, will, at a minimum, be seriously undermined.

 

Comment by Mary | 2008-05-31 17:34:52

Agree with you.

There WILL be a backlash. In November GE, on affirmative action, on “improving” race relations, on trusting the DNC.

Backlash. BIG TIME.

 

Comment by elise | 2008-05-31 19:03:04

He dodged a question in the the 2nd Philly debate re. Affirmative Action. That takes a lot of gall considering he and Michele both benifited from it just a few short years ago.

 

Comment by Pittsburgh4Hillary08 | 2008-05-31 23:26:26

yes its going to be at least 20 years before a black man will be allowed to run again in the Democratic Party expecially with the case of the whip azz he is going to get in November I see a lot of RED in his future.

 
 

Comment by Jonna | 2008-05-31 17:41:34

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-05-31 17:24:09

Please join me on Nov 4 for the tossing of BO under the bus. He should meet a lot of old friends there.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-31 17:41:11

They should be realllllly happy to greet him, eh?

 

Comment by spamccensor | 2008-05-31 18:09:20

You’re counting Hillary out?

I’m not.

Comment by Pittsburgh4Hillary08 | 2008-05-31 23:28:50

no I am not counting Hillary out She’s no quitter

 
 

Comment by elise | 2008-05-31 19:05:32

Amen to that!

 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-31 17:24:23

Yup. He’s from Chicago politics all right.

Comment by Dakinikat | 2008-05-31 17:30:52

where dead people and hypothetical voters get to vote, and Quitters get to win by stealing things in back rooms…

 
 

Comment by Corel | 2008-05-31 17:25:27

Barack has just given another huge advantage to the GOP. This is breathtaking. The Democratic Party was a literal shoe-in for victory with Bush at his lowest ratings. Yet the kamikazi Obama people ran a totally scorched Earth strategy and slimed both Bill and Hillary Clinton as if they were some kind of child molesters.

Now the GOP is celebrating because they have their victory guaranteed. When the GOP uses every dirty trick in the book, “hope” is not going to win a campaign. Hillary had guts, stamina, and fight in her. Obama has only a weak smile and some flowery language. We are screwed for another 4 years. Thanks Obama freaks.

Comment by scott in jupiter | 2008-05-31 17:43:54

“When the GOP uses every dirty trick in the book”

At this point they just have to show up.

McCain isn’t even trying and he’s beating barky in the polls.

Comment by Ivory Bill Woodpecker | 2008-05-31 18:30:53

I agree. The GOP won’t need to use voter suppression and vote fraud this time. They won’t even need to slander Plastic Jesus. They will only need to tell the truth about him.

WTF is wrong with the Democratic Establishment?

 
 

Comment by spamccensor | 2008-05-31 18:11:44

I disagree.

In fact, I think should Clinton win, she has shown herself to be intellectually superior to the republican and Obama troll boys, and their methods.

Either way she is superior, but don’t tell them.

Guys like Jonathan Singer, and the republican ops might crash.

 
 

Comment by Lisa S | 2008-05-31 17:26:22

That is right. Another few months - Obama saying that he never heard Michelle make statements like that. “I can no more disown her…..”

 

Comment by Corel | 2008-05-31 17:28:24

Obama is an idiot. This is like handing the GOP candy. Their next commercial will now point out how he never had any true faith and was willing to turn his back on his lifelong spiritual community in order to score political points. In fact, this is right out of the Bible. They will pull the quotes from the Bible that specifically condemn such a calculated political move in renouncing our faith in favor of some material gain. I’m almost ready to believe Obama is some kind of shill set up by the GOP.

Comment by Jonna | 2008-05-31 17:51:06

If I worked for the GOP, I’d use what you suggest. Very powerful stuff. I’m loving this!

 

Comment by hillarysmygirl | 2008-05-31 18:13:22

The GOP has already been suggesting that he never had any true faith. On Fox, when the second wave of Rev. Wright at the Press Club footage came out, the Republicans said that if it was true that Obama never heard or saw any of this while he was a member of the church, that must mean he hardly attended church and declared membership only to attract voters. The Obama campaign says that whenever we (Hillary supporters) say something about Sweetie that it’s just fuel for the Republicans, but trust me, the GOP is more cunning and evil than we could ever hope to be. They’ve been cooking up their strategy for a LONG time, hoping that Sweetie will be our nominee.

 
 

Comment by Lisa S | 2008-05-31 17:29:16

Breaking news **** just got word that Obama is joining my synagogue (-:

Comment by Catriley | 2008-05-31 17:33:42

lol- He made them promise that everyone will be searched for electronic recording devices upon entering. He just can’t take the chance of a visiting radical rabbi.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-31 17:38:40

Lisa … you made my day …. the idiots in Washington may totally not see what pandering looks like when it is in practice, but we get it. WE GET IT … We Will Remember in November …. so will the people he is now turning his back on …

 

Comment by Kat Bee | 2008-05-31 19:12:10

I think he may go back to the mosque.

 
 

Comment by fields | 2008-05-31 17:30:34

1) Because there is more to come out of his church !!

2) Black voters got used……..that’s the only he stayed at the church till now.

3) I bet his wife slamming whitey is true

 

Comment by Corel | 2008-05-31 17:31:03

What’s quite interesting is Drudge’s total silence on this. He is usually the first to post some bizarre picture of Hillary or lesbian rumor about her. Yet this is MAJOR news from Obama, and Drudge is quiet as a mouse. How fascinating.

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn AmeriKKKA" Wright | 2008-05-31 18:57:44

Drudge is in the tank so deep for Oblahblah.

Please that site is bought and paid for obama shiller.

 
 

Comment by artist | 2008-05-31 17:31:04

He STILL has not apologized to Hillary.

She needs to stay in for the Convention.

Who knows what other shoes may drop.

I’d like to see her launch a GE campaign on Wed!

Comment by spamccensor | 2008-05-31 18:25:49

I dont know, Obama looks kinda crazy.

Hillary isn’t goofy, like Obama, just because guys like Rove and Axlerod buy into the BS of amatuer psy ops marketing, Clinton shouldn’t.

It makes the boys look unstable.

Cmon, the guy declared himself the victor before the votes were counted to DISCOURAGE Clinton and her supporters, he looks like a kook, kind of like Cheney, and 4th branch.

Stable, serious people don’t do things of this sort, only Hollywood starlets, desperate for attention.

We still have a body of law that the majority of us recognize, even if Axelrod, and guys like Rove are out of touch, and none too bright in peddling their candidates.

It’s a government, not a circus, and not the Sky Bar.

 
 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-05-31 17:32:06

More interesting news: Lynn Sweet of the Sun Times says Axelrod had been making a vidso documentary about Pfleger.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/pfleger_a_headache_for_obama_a.html

Pfleger is the subject of a documentary being made by Chicago-based David Axelrod, Obama’s top strategist. On Friday, Axelrod told me in an e-mail that the film project has “been dormant for much of the last two years due to other commitments.”

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-05-31 17:33:41

New kids’ song:

 

Comment by Nathan Barley | 2008-05-31 17:34:21

Wonderful news! Looks like Obama has won in every way today!

Comment by Seymour Glass | 2008-05-31 17:40:04

are u deranged?

Comment by Strawberry | 2008-05-31 18:15:46

Don’t talk to it, it’s busy licking itself.

Comment by HillaryMadamePresident | 2008-05-31 18:37:19

Ha!!!!!!!!!! Very funny stuff.

 

Comment by stxabuela | 2008-05-31 18:40:08

Stop it, Strawberry, my sides hurt from laughing!

 
 
 
 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-05-31 17:34:45

New kids’ song:

The wheels on Barack’s bus go round and round, round and round, round and round . . .

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-31 18:56:05

 
 

Comment by Seymour Glass | 2008-05-31 17:35:47

uh oh…”Joshua” Obama has thrown over 8,000 of his fellow parishioners under the bus all at once…

NEW WORLD RECORD!

what a fraud and punk.

Can you imagine if it was he - not McCain as a POW in Hanoi? He’d have sold out ALL his comrads…on day one.

Comment by dpvegas | 2008-06-01 06:35:27

Yep, totally agree.

 
 

Comment by Jill L | 2008-05-31 17:36:06

this whole process has to sadden everyone… the fix is in… the party is corrupt… somebody’s god please bless these divided states of America !

 

Comment by LDW | 2008-05-31 17:36:19

Where has Michelle Obama been lately? Do you think Axelrod knows the Whitey video is real and is keeping her away from reporters who will ask her exactly that: did you stand up in Church and rail against Whitey, Michelle? Did you?

Betcha Axelrod thinks if he can just secure the nomination for his boy Barack, then he can fix everything else between now and November.

He only has the best interests of the Democratic Party at heart, of course.

Comment by stxabuela | 2008-05-31 18:42:24

She’s probably locked in the attic next to BO’s uncle.

 

Comment by Jess Wonderin | 2008-05-31 22:47:06

The GOP slim guys are HOPING like hell that she is kept out of view UNTIL after Mr Teflon is crowned and the Democratic Party finds the Edsel has 84 month payments and NO warrentee . . . .

 
 

Comment by Jude | 2008-05-31 17:36:23

That we know this about him and still the DNC is in process of ruling for him right now is beyond my grasp.

Can someone please tell me why the TUCC still is seen as a tax exempt entity? The blatant disrespect of the separation of church and state, and campaigning from the pulpit is stunning. Why is the government not intervening?

Comment by Linda C. | 2008-05-31 19:35:43

The TUCC is being investigated by the IRS

 
 

Comment by standard | 2008-05-31 17:36:34

I’m convinced that church is out to, and will finish him off.

 

Comment by Mary | 2008-05-31 17:38:26

Remember: despite his Islamic name, his personal support for an Islamic ethnic group in Kenya, and his pledge in his own autobiography that “when things get ugly, I will stand with the Muslims,” Barack Obama is actually a committed, believing Christian, blah blah blah…

Comment by Seymour Glass | 2008-05-31 17:45:25

maybe it was a sham afterall…

Comment by wac for hillary | 2008-05-31 18:24:05

Which part?

 
 

Comment by Jonna | 2008-05-31 18:00:06

I have a new idea for Hillary after Tues: go on a book reading tour…that’s right…travel ’round the country reading from Obama’s books.

Maybe that would wake up the country.

There is so much sh*t in there Michelle Malkin, Dobbs, Rove and the Republicans don’t do it justice!

 
 

Comment by Jonna | 2008-05-31 17:39:32

His comment, “…not because of the members or because of Reverend Moss but because this has become such a spectacle” sounds like he still isn’t repentant of his sins.

His sins…God forgives sins…me, my husband, my family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, they don’t.

Barack has a real problem. I wish him well.

Bring on McCain! I’ll take him any day. Gentleman, war-hero, smart, dedicated, selfless, moderate, a true uniter. That’s what I want.

Let’s start working for McCain. I’d be OK with that. The Democratic party needs an overhaul.

Comment by samanthasmom | 2008-05-31 18:41:37

If McCain chooses someone like Olympia Snowe or Sarah Palin to run with him, and Obama wins the Democratic nomination, I’ll not only campaign for McCain, I’ll send him cash. BTW, check out the date that the Democratic nominee is scheduled to make the acceptance speech at the convention and then check out the date that MLK made his “I Have a Dream Speech”. Coincidence?

 
 

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-31 17:39:41

Anybody listening to these Obama animals yelling and screaming and scaring the shit out of everybody?

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-05-31 18:23:28

I’m not afraid of a bunch of kids hopped up on high fructose corn syrup. (And I know you aren’t either, Uppity.)

Comment by Strawberry | 2008-05-31 18:47:56

Think about it, these kids didn’t grow up being allowed to play dodge ball because it was too violent, trophies and medals were handed to them just because they showed up and their mommies won’t let the play rough sports because they might get hurt. Blech. And they think they can take on McCain who was tortured for 5 years…this is gonna be fun.

 
 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-31 17:40:41

MY sane half asks ” How do you resign from a church?!”

Obama’s kid; Stinky daddy why are we not going to our church anymore?

Obama; Well daughter of mine, I can’t be beleived if I don’t throw my church under the bus.

Obama’s kid; What bus?

So Senator Clinton was correct when responding to the “incident” of rev wrights racist propaganda.

“If that was my church I would have left.”

Now BO I can say you did not “walkout” on your own judgement what little of it you have. Do you think you can “hide it from the kids?”

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-05-31 17:42:29

 

Comment by Mr X | 2008-05-31 17:43:23

Man, you gotta give it to lawyers. They think right and wrong stem from rules. It’s the other way around. Rules stem from right and wrong. Otherwise, where did the first rule come from? And rules need changing when they are wrong. Rules are meant to benefit the people. Who benefitted? No one. The entire DNC is gonna lose.

Comment by Nathan Barley | 2008-05-31 17:52:34

Who benefited? The Democratic Party. Who loses? Those of you — fake Democrats — who infest this blog!

Comment by Nicole | 2008-05-31 18:23:20

Oh, no, Nathan–you and yours are going down. I’ll enjoy watching your li’l heads implode.

Tah

 

Comment by spamccensor | 2008-05-31 18:31:02

You’re such a regular, so predictable, I keep expecting you to bring refreshments, NB.

He so wants attention.

 

Comment by stxabuela | 2008-05-31 18:49:02

Nathan, if you’re seeing fake Democrats, maybe you should log off the computer and get out of your mom’s basement for a couple of hours.

 
 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-31 17:44:51

What happened to the argument that TUCC was “representative” of the Black Church? What is TUCC now?

Comment by llamajockey | 2008-05-31 18:25:23

beebop,

I believe the United Church of Christ is actually a remnant of the old Congregationalist Church which traditional was very liberal and progressive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregational_church

I believe Trinity United Church of Christ was a sleepy little church until Jeremiah Wright came along with his late sixties radical Liberation Theology courtesy of the Marxist Rev. James Cone.

Because the United Church of Christ was a non-hierarchical and otherwise liberal protestant sect TUCC was able to morph into the extreme left-wing mega-church nuthouse it is today.

Comment by spamccensor | 2008-05-31 18:32:13

Interesting, I wonder how Wright was funded, and by whom?

Comment by llamajockey | 2008-05-31 18:45:18

I should add the United Church of Christ traditional is very liberal, progressive and WHITE. I think that is why many AA religious church goers took offense that TUCC was in any way representive of most black churches.

I think other more traditional churches like the Baptists would never have put up with Rev. Wright or James Cone.

TUCC is very much a product of an era of White Liberal guilt and political correctness.

 
 

Comment by allimom99 | 2008-05-31 19:07:26

llamajockey is correct. Both Congregational churches I attended as a youngster were Part of the United Church of Christ, pretty much creative-class liberal WHITE suburbanites. Strong social gospel emphasis, not too judgmental on personal flaws. All in all, pretty white-bread Protestant.

 
 
 

Comment by Sara | 2008-05-31 17:45:22

First we don’t “understand” the black church experience. Then we are led to believe that Obama never heard inflammatory comments, and Trinity turned overnight from a great place to a hate-infested place. Then he distances, then renounces, then more and more and more lies from him (that the media ignores) and his crazed supporters go out of their way to justify his downright sickening associations.

Yes, I am bothered by his association with a place that harbors anti-white and anti-Jewish sentiment (racism is racism just like terrorism is terrorism whether Bill Ayers or Bin Laden is doing it), but I am more bothered by the massive infiltration of faith in politics. I was led to believe for so many years that it was the Republicans who felt driven to intermingle church and state, but the presence and controversy of Obama’s church coupled with his constant references to Jesus (even in his ads) is a very sad thing. Obama has just basically admitted that his judgement is poor. Coupled with his ignorance of history and utter lack of experience, he has given the Repubgs a big gift.

Republicans are smart. No one who is not uber-savvy and manipulative would have been able to do this much damage for two consecutive train-wreck presidencies. The Democrats, with the notable exception of Hillary and very few others, are spineless children who do not like to get their hands dirty for the good of the people.

This rapprochement of religion and politics is disturbing, and the Democrats should be ashamed. McCain is one step closer to the White House.

 

Comment by Ellen Tenn | 2008-05-31 17:46:53

Obama is the biggest fraud ever. I can’t wait to see the reaction of all the AA members of Trinity. Thanks to Obama, they look like idiots in the press and then he walks away and says he is nothing like them. Ouch! That has got to hurt.

Comment by Beverly Leslie | 2008-05-31 17:57:57

Well considering this is all a backroom cooridianated divorce, they probably won’t care. They will say, this is what he has to do to win. Hope no one in their right mind falls for such a pathetic move.

Comment by SensibleWoman | 2008-05-31 18:13:33

They will say, this is what he has to do to win.

Probably will. Go back to this audio here on noquarter and listen.