Statement from The Clinton Campaign
By SusanUnPC on May 31, 2008 at 6:47 PM in DNC, Delegates, Democracy, Democrats, Disenfranchisement, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Michigan, Voter Enfranchisement
Please keep in mind that this is a statement for public consumption and I FERVENTLY hope that much is still going on behind the scenes. NOTE this in the last sentence: “We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.” And this in the preceding paragraph re Michigan: “[Awarding] to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton … violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party. …”
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Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy made the following statement this evening:
Today’s results are a victory for the people of Florida who will have a voice in selecting our Party’s nominee and will see its delegates seated at our party’s convention. The decision by the Rules and Bylaws Committee honors the votes that were cast by the people of Florida and allocates the delegates accordingly.
We strongly object to the Committee’s decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan’s delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan.
The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party.
We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.
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GO HILLARY..ALL THE WAY TO DENVER
Hillary, we are fighting with you!United, we will win!Hillary for President!
WE ARE WITH YOU HILLARY
TO DENVER AND THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
BOOYAH!!!
HILLYEAH!!!!
Yes, All the way to Denver. It’s Hillary or McCain and I prefer Hillary!
I feel violated. Very weird sensation.
Was it good for you !!!
no I hear you
its a really disgusting feeling knowing all those people that were standing up for BHO were just like all those people in that LOONEY BIN OF A HATEFEST church!!
I had no idea that man Democrats had gone over the edge into madness thanks to GW (mostly) and the Repub “do nothing” Congress!!
It’s still scary that so many were soooooooooooooo weak minded that they have lapped this chit up like some 2 day old helpless kitten drinking putrid milk
typos I’m tired
oops
That is the end of the Democratic Party.
It has now gone on public record that individual votes don’t count.
It has now become the Politburo that the GOP has long accused it of being, only now the Republicans have proof.
It has now validated the 2000 election results.
It has now publicly affirmed the right of of the grandees to cast your vote for you.
It has now abandoned every principle that many of us have fought for all our lives.
It no longer has any high-moral ground to stand on. It is corrupt and (I hope) bankrupt.
And it is at least one member smaller as of tonight.
If this means what I think,its great if Hillary picks up 38 delagates from Florida,,,and I so hope she fights on concerning Mich,Obama did not win any delagates from Mich.
Umm. It doesn’t mean what you think. Yesterday, Obama needed 41 delegate votes to clinch the nomination; Clinton needed 244.
Today, Obama needs 64 votes; Clinton needs 240.5.
There are 291 delegates remaining.
Over by Friday.
this is looney
As a voter from Michigan, I can’t believe the decision the committee made for Michigan. There is no rhyme or reason to their decision. So, in the end, the people of Michigan are doubly cheated on by the DNC and Obamaites:
1. our vote only counts for 1/2, much less than those caucus states where only tens of thousands of people show up as opposed to the 600,000+ who voted
2. even though we didn’t vote for Obama, he gets our votes.
Is this democracy?
Why sould we support the democratic nominee chosen by arbitrary and unfair rules?
Your Senator Levin introduced and supported this solution for your state.
If you are unhappy, let him know. And vote him out.
He came off like a sleaze today.
He knew he was pulling a fast one.
Get that sucker out.
They took Clinton’s delegates and gave it Obama, who removed his name from the MI ballot?! Insanity!
This is outrageous.
It is a declaration of they want to support Obama at any cost.
They should be ashamed of themselves for not even hiding their bias.
OUTRAGEOUS.
I will be leaving the Democratic Party because there is no rhyme or reason for taking delegates from the person who the voters voted for, and giving them to a man who was listed as uncommitted along with other candidates.Why? Why?
How can this be happening in plain sight and then saying they want to bring the party together.
They have sealed their own fate.
That was a kangaroo court. This is smelling like 2000. This is what is called a payback to Bill Clinton, there is no other way to explain it!!
How can they possibly take delegates away from Clinton when her name was on the ballot and those people knew exactly who they were voting for?
That’s just irrational.
Yes, and his name was on the ballot in FL and she won it and they still gave him half the delegates. Just stinks. There’s something so rotten going on in this country. I think it started when Bill Clinton got elected. The Bush got in on corruption and now the U. S. is a banana republic.
If Hillary isn’t the president this time, there won’t be another real election.
If Hillary isn’t the president this time, there won’t be another real election.
Thanks you. this exactly what I have been screaming about for months now
I am so angry———-sooooooooooo angry.
You know, they think we will get over this–us boomer women. Everyone who is asked on tv says oh they will get over it-time will heal it. And I say NO.
Break out the Oxygen! We’re climbing up a mile high all the way to DENVER!!!
I never protested a vote, but this time — and considering Hillary maybe the only woman POTUS candidate in a decade or more — I will.
How is it in Denver?
Dry, dirty, dusty
Sounds a bit like my neck of the woods now. :/
Sidenote: Susan is into kitty food now?? Got to look for kitty treats, as my babies believe stinkier-is-better!
Oh gawd, I’m sick and tired of this!!! Geraldo just showed video of her in Puerto Rico and she looked crisp and fresh. I’m glad she looks upbeat. That always gives me hope(tm).
Well…….I would say that reducing a woman’s vote to half a vote is about par for Barack Obama.
Half a vote, 50 cents to the dollar earned and none of the credit…I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to forget this. Not by November, not ever.
We will remember in November ….
they may figure it out before NOV
when a million Dems turn to Indie when EVER the swell begins
it’s coming
sooner rather than later
(jmo)
In Ohio, we can’t change our affiliation until — believe it or not — the next primary. So my vote as a Democrat will go to a Republican. Hope that they can do math. Ohio is now RED. I will be donating to John and working for him. My family will be pissed, but a McCain sign goes on my lawn if the party puts that putz on the ballot.
i think the technical term for this is “The Sweetie Vote”
Yeah, after all she’s just a Sweetie, right? He makes me ill.
Hillary is definitely no sweetie.
She is a manipulative politician who will do, and say, anything to win.
fuck off!
After Obama throwing his 20+ year church under the bus today, you say that about Clinton? Talk about projecting!
“Patriot” my ass! The last refuge of a scoundrel…
hi s sign today of not only democracy inaction but Marxist actions! The rulings went according to what Dean wanted completely and more!
This should not only be an insult to Michigan voters but also to the nation that the Democratic party is not a party of the people but of its chosen leaders, and I sincerely hope that Hillary Clinton takes this battle right through to the convention and in my gut, if the Republicans have a tape of Michelle, then bet last dolloar the Clintons have it as well and should leak it out to prove to America the reality of these marxist Obama’s!
I’m starting to think Hillary’s camp is playing us all.
I think this ‘take it to Denver’ is a ploy to keep us all registered Dem for as long as possible hoping we magically forget was racists Michelle and BoBo are.
Rush has long said Hillary was a commie, so maybe she is playing us worse than barky.
That was uncalled for, step off little man.
Actually, he does have a point. If you look at Hillary’s own words about “unity”, and possibility of taking it to the convention (long after the last ability to change party affiliation) it can be seen as a ploy.
These are politicians who will throw more than waffles when it comes to party loyalty.
It’s important that every true Hillary supporter who wishes to have a backup plan (the ability to vote in the GE, especially in states that require voter party registrations) to switch parties BEFORE the deadline. You can still protest, but still be able to vote your conscience.
Thank God I live in a state that doesn’t require party registration. Vote for Hillary in the primary, then vote for ABO (Anyone But Obama) in November — and still love being an Independent.
I don’t get it. The convention isn’t long after anything.
First, most states let you change affiliation 30 days or less before an election.
Second, you can vote, or not vote, for any Presidential candidate in the General, regardless of affiliation.
Is there some state that doesn’t have open voting in the General?
*****A
Well, from looking at this, most won’t be able to change party affiliation now…
http://www.primarilypaul.com/ron-paul-in-the-primaries/
You do not have to vote for a Democrat in the GE just because you are still affiliated with that party. In addition you can register to vote in the GE almost right up to the election.
However, Hillary has stood by the Democratic Party through years of abuse by both Republicans and Democrats. She truly feel a responsibility and love for the party she has worked so hard to represent. And I think it would be almost impossible for her to leave. It would truly break her heart (and Bill’s)
She has a lot more loyalty than I do. I do not expect to be a Democrat anymore by August. I can still vote for Hillary if she is on the ballot or if they allow write-ins in Colorado. But, though I’ve been a Democrat almost as long as Hillary has, I’ll be Goddamned if I’ll vote for Obama. And I will not work for the Party anymore or donate to their f@$#&ing congressional campaigns.
This Party doesn’t stand for what I thought it did all these years. I’ve forgiven a lot, I’ve awaited and waited for them to stand up for me and mine. I’m an independent from now on, and I’ll support whoever I think is best.
Again, read the link above.
Even in GA, that has open primaries, new voters have to register MONTHS BEFORE to vote in the GE. This is why when Bill Clinton ran in 1992, the DP in my area set up voter registration booths all over (including the front of Wal-Mart!) 6 months in advance to ensure the voters COULD vote in November. Heck, we even REQUIRE verified IDs to vote in any political election, too — and without none of this nonsense about it hurting voter participation, either. We want voters to vote in their precints, not anywhere they chose. Afterall, the DP has a history of having deceased voting!
Please, the fact you would even consider the rantings by Rush over Hillary’s record tells me all I need to know.
Will I believe, if Rush says you are a commie??
You are ignorant. The far left hates the Clintons because they’re commies? Go play a video game.
I am also a Michigan voter, and I feel just like I did after the 2000 election. Impotent.
I am finished with this party. It will get no votes from me in November.
I’m finished with the Democratic Party FOREVER.
4 of Hillary’s votes given to Obama after he voluntarily removed his name from the ballot?
I don’t think so.
Stick a fork in him.
Say hello to President John McCain.
Screw McCain, forget Hillary.
You people are all narrow minded hypocrites.
Splitting the votes in Michigan and Florida, when they shouldn’t be counted at all, is a gift to your candidate.
I would have voted for Hillary over McCain, if she had won the primary fairly, but if you would even consider voting for McCain over a democratic nominee, you are ignorant and deserve what you will get.
I take it your name is some kind of a joke, comrade?
I take it your belief Hillary will be the nominee of the democratic party is the same?
She can always run as the scorched earth party nominee.
Maybe the Clinton party since they are only in it for themselves.
Unlike Oblahma. Bwaaahaaaa!
And you’re for who? Considering this is a pro-Hillary site, and most here are rooting for her, commenting that neither Hillary or McInsane is a candidate is trolling.
Party types are used to parties and will affiliate with them (I’m hoping more will become Independents, so they can vote their conscience, not “just for party”, considering this election candidates is an example of what that damage can do). If they can’t stand Obama on principles, and they rather exercise a hard won right to vote, it’s wrong and foolish to tell them to “stay home” or “not vote” because they can’t stand a party’s nominee. Every American needs to vote as a duty.
Obiewan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy your Democratic party.
How DARE they TAKE delegates from Hillary? The people that voted for her in MI do not deserve to have their votes given to someone else.
Whose votes does the lost 4 delegates represent?
A 93 year old woman that got to vote for the chance to see a female president in the White House, after being born before women could vote?
A father of a chronically ill child who knows that if he loses his job his child will no longer be insured?
The single parent living paycheck to paycheck but wants a better life for her children, if she could only afford to go to college?
A new citizen who has escaped political persecution and corruption, who was proud to cast their first vote for their hero, Hillary Clinton?
The mother who told her little girl that she took with her to cast her vote for Hillary, that she could be whatever she wanted?
Whose votes did they take away today?
they take 4 delegates that were actually voted for hillary and give them to obama. AND they give obama 55 more delegates, ALL of the uncommitted delegates. weren’t there 4 people other than hillary still in the race at the time? why not 1/4 of the 55? (or, more fairly, none, since he wasn’t on the ballot, by his own choice).
oh, i know….because they decided long ago that the nominee would be obambi and this is just one of the many, many actions they’ve taken to make that happen. they thought some of their earlier actions would be enough to get her out – moving south carolina up, taking away fl and mi’s delegates, etc. when that didn’t work, they just kept it up. this is just the latest salvo.
even if they had given hillary ALL of her fl and mi delegates today and not given obambi any that he didn’t actually earn, it wouldn’t have mattered, because the momentum he got from being the so-called delegate leader for the past 3 months, which he only got because fl and mi weren’t counted, got him an actual delegate lead. but today’s action just adds insult to injury.
the party should just put out a memo that says ha, ha, ha, you stupid voters. you thought you had a choice. obambi is it and screw you!
i say screw them.
lifelong dem, from generations of dem. not any more!
they think we’ll be back. i won’t. and i hope noone will.
I dont know, something seems to be up in camp Obama…
This sucks, but here are the take-away positives:
1. Cause to go to Denver, baby!
2. Popular vote now gets counted!
Hillary is now the popular vote leader because Michigan and Florida primaries have been recognized, and tomorrow she will be officially the popular vote leader even without counting Michigan.
So take that and shove it RBC. We got exactly what we needed for the time being.
Denver or BUST. Got that?
And the goalposts for the nomination also moved up. It is no longer the 2025 that Obama craved.
So, what does that do to his nomination kick off party he’s having in Minneapolis on Wednesday?
I just wrote to the webmaster at Realclearpolitics and told him/her to change the SIX different Democratic Nominee Popular vote counts! (webmaster@realclearpolitics.com)
These are the ONLY TWO that count now:
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI):
Obama: 17,266,433 47.5% Clinton: 17,428,986 47.9% Clinton +162,553 +0.45%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA
Obama: 17,600,517 47.6% Clinton: 17,652,848 47.7% Clinton +52,331 +0.14%
However, they just awarded popular votes and delegates to Obama…that he did not earn.
Ya know, this was my take-away, absolutely but it is still sooo painful. I just did not want to really witness that even though I knew it was coming. And I smell money, of course. Thanks, Uppity – good to hear the folks who just decide to trash democracy.
I am just amazed that these people don’t recognize that this looks and feels like 2000 when a “decision” just wiped out voters. But in some way it does remind me of 2004 when Kerry would not stand up and fight for us like he could have and should have.
My husband just pointed out that how so many of the folks in Obama’s cabal are just people we never liked.
But some of the people in that cabal are people we VOTED for … Kerry, Kennedy, Edwards ….
and they are forever as tainted by what happened today as Obama as far as I am concerned. They are just as complicit as if they made the decision. They are traitors to the Democratic party. Or, the Democratic party that was.
Agree with you T.Darlin. Agreed, there is a chess move being made here. Perhaps this was just the ostensible reason HRC needed to keep up the fight. It was quite a moment when Ickes spoke about the credentials committee.
The one question that I have about this day’s activities — at least what we saw had to do with the AA committee member who spoke after Ickes. Did anyone get what he was saying? It was outrage about something, but I didn’t get it. He was steamed.
I cannot even begin to express my outrage for the Michigan decision. It is the most undemocratic event I have witnessed in my lifetime. I will not stand for this.
FIGHT, Hillary! This is just insane! Taking delegates away from her to give to their guy? She cannot let this stand.
I would like you all to meet the two smarmy bastages and Obama co-chairs who happen to be in the Michigan state senate. The two guys who blocked Michigan’s REVOTE. Watch Tupac Hunter smirk as he says, “It’s good to be in the lead” and tell me these are honest people and we should support Barack Obama for anything, anytime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om3szT6Cv20
Does Barack Obama not look like Leland Gaunt in the above video besides?
I’ll take your word at their smarminess…ness. I’d like to keep my food down.
Right there with you Strawberry.
Please watch what they did Strawberry. You will not believe it.
Goddamn Uppity, I just want punch that little prick in the mouth….and that Fat Tupac…damn, just damn. “It’s good to be in the lead.”? Remember Mel Brookes in History Of the World? “It’s Good to be the King.” MY GOD, UPPITY, I CAN NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. I CAN NOT. WHAT THE HELL AM I GOING TO DO? WHAT THE HELL ARE REASONABLE DEMOCRATS SUPPOSED TO DO? OBAMA IS A DIRTBAG! Sorry for yelling.
I’m glad you looked
I can’t
the hideousness continues………..
Voters know who blocked the revotes. They know who cut them off at the knees. Great day for loyal Democratic voter. If Al Gore ever comes out and backs this guy, his tongue should adhere permanently to his upper pallet.
Barack’s not having a good day …. he had to jettison his black street creds, he looks like the slime bucket vis a vis Michigan and Florida that we all know him to be and Hillary is kicking his ass in Puerto Rico … Not a bad day for Hillary Clinton.
Word is , on several channels, that the superdelegates REQUIRED Obama to jettison the church for the party’s sake.
It won’t matter now. He’s too associated with it. The weird thing is that the Dem leaders seem to think they will control Obama when it is so obvious his terrorist associates will be controlling them and the country.
Not my idea, but consider a tit-for-tat sort of arrangement. BO gets the votes of the committee today, IF he renounces his church. May be the explanation. May be that it relates to the rumored video of Michelle. Food for thought.
please put this video up.
almost no one knows about how obamas lawyer, bob bauer, with these 2 punks killed the revote.
and Bonior outright lied about it today.
Hope you have a copy of that somewhere before it too gets scrubbed by OB campaign. Pretty damning last few seconds of that video.
By the way, the Rules commitee giving those uncommited delegates to Obama, watch the spin now that Obama will say that those votes were all his as well, as sanctioned by the rules commitee!
Is this AMerica or Kenya?
He’s acting very SNIDE and he doesn’t seem too happy about “having” to do this. Still praising Moss.
It won’t stop the swiftboats. And it won’t stop the democrats who despise him from working against him–of which there are many.
You don’t undue 20 years just becuase you say its over ….
didn’t they black list people for way less than THIS GUY!!!
they must realize the R party and us more moderate DEMS don’t LIKE RADICAL LEFTIST MONKEYS!!! They carry all kinds of disease!
ok well not maybe disease but despair and disappointment at the very least!!
Still praising Moss? Even after his “skin condition” sermon? He is hopeless.
even if Hill had gotten all Michigan’s delegates, she still wouldn’t be close to winning the nomination. regardless of today’s actions, she still lost.
Its’ a long way to August. Better stick another shoulder on that skeleton closet door of Mr. Sleeze.
Which is why Hillary MUST NOT WITHDRAW. She doesn’t have to campaign anymore after this week. But she MUST NOT WITHDRAW. She MUST be available for the delegates to vote for come August.
I wonder what other lifelong connections Obama will have cut by then.
That brontosaurus femur is a lee-etle too big and heavy. Just stick the corner of the file cabinet against the door – yeah, that looks ok.
Obama had to throw his church of 20 years under the bus today, ya got that? Most people in the US attend some sort of church. They will see him as a man with no integrity who joined a church to gain the black vote or a man with no loyalty to those closest to him…or both. He cannot win in November against a man who spent 5 years in a POW camp for his country.
The Super Delegates decide who the nominee is AT THE CONVENTION and not until. They can all change their minds between now and August, so stay tuned.
hanna,
America deserves the BEST! THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE US! PRESIDENT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON !
why obama? he does not even know the correct number of states America has? maybe he is already adding the 7 (towns of his families, including Odinga,his corrupt cousin) from Kenya. SCARY !
Hillary knows she will win this. I’m sticking with Hillary to the end.
Obama had to throw his church under the bus to get this deal with the DNC. He’s running out of money. Today my 81 year old mother told me “He’s too tired to be president.” Heh.
It’s official: Barrack Obama now has a big fat ugly asterisk on his back!
Just like Barry Bonds’ “home-run record” baseball! Ha!
Barack Obama: The Barry Bonds of the (un)Democratic Party.
If Hillary doesn’t fight this all the way, we will soon find ourselves with a Republican in the White House soon to be followed by a Republican dominated House and Senate.
I’d rather have a Republican than Obama ANY DAY!
ditto. and skiron (below) can stuff it.
damn right we’ll vote repub. and damn right our votes will elect mccain over obambi. and damn right that’s a good thing.
Yeah, thanks in small part to the unconstant Democrats on this board who vow to vote for and even contribute to McCain if their candidate loses.
no – it will all be on Obamafools.
YOULL OWN THIS.
unconstant Democrat to you.
constant American to us.
Sorry Skiron. We’re not the inconsistent ones. It is you who is willing to allow the Grandees to decide whose votes count and for whom. Out with the Constitution, and back in with the Magna Carta (where all “rights” are held by the nobility).
That’s what I call Hope and Change, alright.
Incidentally, one positive thing about today. Now that FL and MI delegates are being seated – (whether fairly or not is another matter) – no one can any longer say that the popular vote of those 2 states don’t count. They do. No one can any longer say that Hillary is not ahead in the popular vote. She is.
Too bad the popular vote is only one metric, and not the even the most important one, involved in determining the winner of the nomination. The pledged delegate count carries a lot more weight than the pop. vote.
“not the even the most important on”
Nice vice of Democracy you have there bub.
Give my regards to Mr. Unity…
*view*
It is ridiculous. A candidate who is not even on the ballot allocated not only all uncommitted votes but also some from the candidate who won those dates. Go Hillary all the way to Denver and then to the White House. We are all behind you.
It’ll get uglier, Barack will announce himself as the nominee while voters are voting in PR, and the ugly posts against her will be increased. He can’t win, in my opinion, far too much baggage, and not a nice enough person, but it’ll be blamed on me and those like me. My only comfort is that she’s appealing this unbelievable decision. Talk about respecting rules, my mind begs for reason. This is a bad day for Americans. It likely means we’ll have four more years of war, no universal health insurance, and a bunch of know-nothings taking us on the crooked talk express. Shame on my party for again giving us a candidate that can’t win. After November I’ll be available for a third party that puts forth candidates in the mode of Hillary.
Hillary, make them give it to him and show themselves, please appeal and let this sad process see the light of day. Don’t give up, force then to show their sleazy stuff.
No. What it means is that the Democratic party thinks so little of its rank and file that they are willing to risk the White House for a fiction writer. Welcome President McCain — far better than the knuckle draggers from Chicago I feel. I certainly am not willing to risk the safety of this nation on this lying, cheating, thieving little “d” democrat.
Party unity just went in the toilet.
I can tell you that many of us will never
forget this injustice. The Super D’s are still
the key at the convention.
Ob just quit the Church. Talk about timing, trying to step on the Mich and Fl story, but adding to the flames, he pours on more gas.
Rezko being found guilty next week will push the Super D’s to Hillary, as she is the only one that can beat McCain in November.
afraid i believe the super d’s will go with obambi no matter what. he could kill kittens on tv and his supporters would say they deserved it and he was right because there are too many cats. and the super d’s would still give him their support.
hope they prove me wrong. don’t think they will.
The Democratic Party can now be unified. I bet they rename it the Obamacratic Party. Of course, it’s also going to be a much smaller unified party, as millions of true Democrats become Independents.
Anyone who thinks that giving delegates to a candidate the people (remember them – the people?) did not vote for is fair should immediately be removed from public office and thrown in jail for treason.
I’m disgusted with the whole incompetent DNC.
DNC made it on the record today. Obama stole votes from Hillary.
he didn’t steal them..they were handed to him on a silver platter..wrapped with sweet red bows and signed with kisses!
No. There were arms twisted out of view of the cameras. That was an omaba/axelrod orchestrated event.
Heal? HEAL???
I’m way past that. My heels are dug in!!!
WIN WITHOUT ME!!!!
The only good news was him throwing his Church under the bus. And he did it on Saturday, right before Sunday services tomorrow. What an asshole! And on First Sunday where congregations tend to be huge for Communion. (I don’t even go to church and I know this.)
He should’ve waited till Monday. But his campaign outsmarted themselves trying to upstage the Rules & Bylaws disgusting decisions and keep the protesters off the news.
But who knows? He’s cock sure of the AA community, I’ll say that. And I’m sure they will try to downplay it outwardly. But trust me, he has sown the seeds of doubt in their minds. He won’t get too many more chances. And when AAs turn, it’s going to be one of the more uglier spectacles you’ve ever seen. But Barky Biracial wouldn’t know this seeing as he wasn’t raised among us. But he will learn!
Right on, Mimi!
I think they’ll challenge it.
With all the other pressures, wow, Obama just doesn’t need this on his plate, too, hanging over his head. (poke poke)
Duh.
Boy are the GOP ever going to use this in the fall, showing and reminding America that the Democrats do not count every vote, their party leaders decided peoples votes!
John McCain, extend an olive branch now, offer Clinton a place on a ticket that will bring unity to Washington and leave Chicago corruption in the dirt where it belongs!
If McCain and Hillary ran together as a team, I would quit my job to work for their election.
I am sitting here with tears streaming from my eyes and my heart.
I am angry as well..this Mr.Ickes and Tina Flournoy is not a victory for me and my vote in Florida..fuck you! It is the end of democracy as I have known it for 56 years..this is the saddest day of my life and i have shame that on my watch I lost democracy for my child.
And Mr.Ickes and Tina Flournoy and all the rest of you fuckers on this committee..i will hold all of you responsible for shitting on democracy today and henceforth..I will hold all democrats in responsible positions accountable and responsible for this disgrace to this nation and to our constitutional rights.
I will do all in my power to make sure that fucker of yours loses in November!
I gave Thousands upon thousands of dollars to the dem party in 2004..and i have given alot this year as well. I will give as much as i possibly can from here forward to see Obama defeated from stealing my families votes and my vote.
You had no right.
I will be asking for any and all monies i have given to the dem party this year to be returned to me promptly.
I will be calling Monday morning to have my registration as a dem canceled and i will re-register as a republican for this election cycle.
You have destroyed any Unity there could ever be ,..in my heart and in my soul!
I am done with the dem party as it exists today.
and i am not kidding!
I am through.
After the general i will re-register as an indy.
This is the last time i will ever call myself a Democrat!
I do not support cheaters and those who steal my vote..this is the only way i can hold you accountable immediately and make it hurt for you!
You have no idea how you have hurt me and my family!
Not another red cent from me will ever go to the Dem party!
fly
fly, excellent idea to – in writing – request all your money back from the dnc. (maybe even copy local papers, foxnews, etc.?)
i’ve only given to hillary, not the dnc, but if i had given them money i’d be demanding it back. maybe if millions of people do, they’ll learn something! (doubtful, they’ll probably just have brazile send you an obnoxious email….)
send them half a check for half a vote
I am sorry Fly. I have read your posts and know about your 9/11 experiences with airline team mates. This must be the second saddest experience. I really can’t think of words other than it will get better …. I’m sorry.
Fly I am having dejaVu, I had to shake off a 2000 memory…wierd…wait what year is this?
I agree, Hillary supporters trying to disrupt a process just like Republican operatives.
Hey asswipe, stick your troll nose under some other tent. You are Not Flyarm to which this comment was directed at.
what bug.
Hey asswipe, stick your troll nose under some other tent.
The comment was addressed to Flyarm and your manners suck just like BO’s.
So yea FlyArm I agree, Hey asswipe troll now fuck you again!
My apology for having this troll to the gutter where it came from.
Boo Hoo Hoo.
Good riddance to you.
let me tell you again little patriot..fuck you ..fuck you big time..
oh and darlin..i was a delegate for Florida..and i donated approx $50,000. bucks to the dem party..now let me say it to you again..fuck you..
oh and little patriot..i hope you and your little Ipod idiots have the money to0 make up for people like me!!
now fuck you again!
fly
I am going to quote someone more intelligent than yourself: “There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.”
Alexis de Tocqueville
From your comments, as we can assume you and Obama are alike, so the principled choice is obviously John McCain. Please quit commenting here.
Hillary–Stay in there! Neither the Obama people, the DNC, or the media has the slightest clue as to how passionate your millions of supporters are–not because you are a woman but because you would be a great President (and certainly better than the other two, one of whom we know and respect for his service and sacrifice but fear some of his policies and the other who we hardly know and what we are finding out we don’t like).
Amen, Tricia! Hillary is a warrior. She won’t let us down and we won’t let her down.
Your bus tires too short to box with god, Obama.
Giving four Clinton delegates to Obama? He did not earn those! These people did not vote for him!
I am beyond disgusted!
I’m bored, Seth, I’m really really bored.
You’d think those idiots could come up with something new, but given the lack of talent Obama, and the republicans, hire, I guess not.
Cheating is not indicative of intellect, and skill.
Look at the republicans, and the war.
And when faced with a situation where problem solving skill needs to be applied, the cheater is helpless.
As well as laughed at.
Needless to say, I felt the meeting was fixed, going in.
I mean, the Obama and the republican trolls really don’t get it, they really don’t, they can’t figure out why they’re not effective, though smarter people can…
Florida and Michigan are gone from consideration in the Dems “win” column.
In the end the speech by Sen Nelson was exactly to the point. His actions not.
BO was a member of Trinity “for sometime”. Why can’t he just say 20 years. He ain’t throwing ‘em under the bus.
Now that I am a candidate by anyone assciatted with Trinty… Pflegar I have “known”
Oh poor Trinty members ’cause of BO.
Scrutiny political hay from Moss’s comments
Not fair want to worship in peace…while they bash away at everybody else.
Uppity! I want to bet it all. What Horseshit!
So um compromising…. I am going to get the popcorn.
If Flem was the go between why? Only because he is running for president, not because he disagrees with it! Just doesn’t want to withstand scurtiny…could be problematic for his campaign…
BO: I haven’t figured out how this is managed.
2000 years of this God Damn Glory
My hope would be create some seperation from the pulpit….not because he disagrees
Join which church? um um there um a a h a a um but iii a that o but there jkkjk in a sylist gap has come in to play ion this issue
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Politically connected churches…manuver by association.
Politicallly convient…rev wright…
Pity.resummeably suggest that a because. I love trinty. a not political exersise … I am leaving
Judas betrayed him…
Grap some brunch…where.
personal life…This was one I did not see coming!
(Oh shit Obama said he did not see it coming!! His own church perish the thought! Please at about 7:16 he admits it.(Fox)
Pity me for I ‘ave sinned for political gain I walk from thee but nie do I offend with my condemnation.
I certainly hope that these people are proud of themselves this evening:
Kennedy
Kerry
Richardson
Leahy
Dodd
Daschel
Edwards
The shame of today is on their heads.
going independent. bye bye Democratic Party.
those who supported “rules” today over voters do not represent me.
Amen to that
Nor would they want to. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Loser!
The new coalition = UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY
We might as well live in a communist country. The DNC exhibited 3rd World tactics today to override the will of the people.
The Undemocratic Party are now communists
It is on to the Convention.
One thing folks, according to the rules of the Democratic Party, votes count towards delegate seating, therefore by the Rules Commitee giving Obama all the uncommitted and mail in delegates, this according to the rules gives all those votes to Obama, thus the count for Obama is increased by the 260,000 who voted uncommitted plus the 30,000 uncounted mailed in votes.
The Rules commitee ruling for Michigan gave Obama Chicago style non-existing votes, as that is the only way a delegate count can be awarded is by votes for a certain candidate! So Obama’s new name is Obama-Uncommitted now!
This is illegal!
Yup.
No coffee for Obama. Coffee is for closers.
His financial backers are tired of spending so much money – they want Obama to cinch the deal. I’ll bet Michelle is not happy right now.
CHANGE – We can believe in
Well, folks if you have been wondering what the change would be – here it is = communism
UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY
[...] May 31, 2008 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/31/statement-from-the-clinton-campaign/ [...]
I’ve been waiting for today’s decision to respond to “Gimme” letters from the DNC and the DSCC. Here’s my response, with $0.00 in the donation amount space in big red numbers:
Saturday, May 31, 2008
Dear Ms. Pelosi:
You have the nerve to ask me for money?
No, I will not support an organization that has either passively or ACTIVELY engaged in sexist, even misogynistic behavior. I will not support a Party that is ramming the less qualified candidate down our throats by demeaning and diminishing a far superior candidate, AND which seeks to disenfranchise over 2.2 millions voters. After the appalling decision of the Rules and Bylaws Committee today, I will not be sending you a penny this election cycle. In order to help your chosen candidate, Barack Obama, you reduced Florida’s votes to half and took away some of Hillary Clinton’s Michigan votes? And gave the rest to Senator Obama instead of the intended “Uncommitted”? Do you want money from a Democrat? Try your precious Obama supporters, the ones who wrote or said these filthy remarks:
Stop Hillary Now | jkldjlkj@jlkjkldj.net | IP: 98.145.181.16
Hillary is batshit, Liebercrat crazy.
Fuck her with a pitchfork.
May 23, 3:28 PM
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On CNN, pundit Alex Castellanos said democrats must realize that “it’s time to take the family dog to the vet.”
Matthews’ MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann expressed the hope that “somebody will take her into a room—and only he comes out.”
CNN’s Jack Cafferty gleefully floated the specter of Clinton being run over by a flatbed truck.
A recent Tribune editorial compared Clinton to a euthanized Kentucky Derby contender.”
Every time you or the DNC or the DCCC or the DSCC asks me for money, I will donate more money to the Clinton campaign instead. I never in a million years imagined that you would set up the Democrats for the least-experienced, least-fit, least-knowledgeable candidate who is SURE to lose in November. But you did.
Now, I’m left with a party that no longer represents me.
Sincerely,
A point to remember: and this IS an alarming writing on the wall…
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/boy-boys-girls-2056513-women-obama
Well I’d LOVE to have this man’s children!! Boy or Girl!!
(wait too late)
but Wow what a consideration of blatant destruction of a WHOLE SPECIES!!
That’s like HITLER on a WORLD LEVEL
and I truly am pro-choice but that’s taking it to an evil extreme!! (or more evil depending on who’s reading)
The inane DNC can award Obama all the delegates they choose.
They can shield him, aplogize for him, make up new rules for him.
They can never make him electable!
They can never “award” him our votes, nor aleviate our disgust and distrust.
If he is the nominee, I will use my vote, my money, my voice, and my time to defeat him.
*Sent donation to HRC before coming on here, please join me.
I just told the DNC I’m changing parties.
I’ve been waiting for today’s decision before I responded to two “Gimme” letters from the DCCC and the DSCC:
Saturday, May 31, 2008
Dear Ms. Pelosi:
You have the nerve to ask me for money?
No, I will not support an organization that has either passively or ACTIVELY engaged in sexist, even misogynistic behavior. I will not support a Party that is ramming the less qualified candidate down our throats by demeaning and diminishing a far superior candidate, AND which seeks to disenfranchise over 2.2 millions voters. After the appalling decision of the Rules and Bylaws Committee today, I will not be sending you a penny this election cycle. In order to help your chosen candidate, Barack Obama, you reduced Florida’s votes to half and took away some of Hillary Clinton’s Michigan votes? And gave the rest to Senator Obama instead of the intended “Uncommitted”? Do you want money from a Democrat? Try your precious Obama supporters, the ones who wrote or said these filthy remarks:
Stop Hillary Now | jkldjlkj@jlkjkldj.net | IP: 98.145.181.16
Hillary is batshit, Liebercrat crazy.
Fuck her with a pitchfork.
May 23, 3:28 PM
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On CNN, pundit Alex Castellanos said democrats must realize that “it’s time to take the family dog to the vet.”
Matthews’ MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann expressed the hope that “somebody will take her into a room—and only he comes out.”
CNN’s Jack Cafferty gleefully floated the specter of Clinton being run over by a flatbed truck.
A recent Tribune editorial compared Clinton to a euthanized Kentucky Derby contender.”
Every time you or the DNC or the DCCC or the DSCC asks me for money, I will donate more money to the Clinton campaign instead. I never in a million years imagined that you would set up the Democrats for the least-experienced, least-fit, least-knowledgeable candidate who is SURE to lose in November. But you did.
Now, I’m left with a party that no longer represents me.
Sincerely,
Hey, troll, why does the Obama camp seem so upset, given the “great victory” today?
Something else going on?
They’re unning-ray out of oney-may.
Why is the news saying Hillary is going to suspend her campaign after the voting?
I’m OK with it. I’m a HUGE believer in that the truth reveals itself. This proposal was so clearly unfair to Hillary that it will do absolutely nothing but confirm in people’s minds that the Democratic Party has a huge problem on its hands. This is not a good time to vote Democrat.
That will serve only to make sure that Hillary will be President in 4 years.
They may steal the nomination, and that’s how the public will see it. It’s clear as crystal now.
If they had proposed a plan that gave him a portion of the uncommitted but no take-away from her?
That would have been far worse. That could have been debatable.
This proposal, however, is so out-of-line, however, that Obama is now tarnished with it.
He’ll never gain the momentum back, folks. You can’t threaten with “blood in the street” and steal Annie Oakley’s delegates and get the majority of Americans to think you’re an OK guy.
Ain’t happening for Obama. Give him enough rope, and he hung himself.
This proposal was so clearly unfair to Hillary.
Respectfully, Point of clarification. It was unfair for all those who voted for Senator Clinton.
Write to Hillary and ask her to run as an independent before it’s too late to organize. She can win this with a strong ticket. The Democratic Party is rewarding men behaving badly. Men behaving badly should not be rewarded.
The new coalition = UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY
3rd World tactics – we might as well live in a communist country. Oh by the way, anybody research Mr. Obama and his communist connections?
The DNC are communists
Hillary is so overrated by you people.
I will now be referring to Obama as “Senator Clinton/Uncommitted” since that is the new name the RBC and the DNC have given to him.
holy chit is anyone watching Hannity??
ohhhhhhh woowww
What was it about? I didn’t read this in time.
I have not donated to the DNC either , but I contributed to Hillary’s campaign what I could afford til Nov. It’s not alot of money , but I still made the contribution.
I basicallly didn’t listen to all the media crap saying it was all over and for Hillary to bow out. And then the hysteria over her RFK statement,I still think the media used that to get her out too.
I wrote MSNBC and had a few words about Keith’s acting.
I just printed out the form from the NC State Board of Elections website and have completed it. I’ll drop it in the mail tomorrow. This 49-year-old life-long Democrat is changing her registration to “unaffiliated”.
Do it. Show Dean and Co that we AREN’T to be taken for granted.
If Obama is the nominee and is handed his scepter and crown, I WILL vote Republican for the first time ever. I can vote for John McCain in good conscience. I can not vote for Obama. He is utterly unqualified, and I resent to the core of my being what has been done to shove him down our throats.
Got those postage paid DNC envelopes? Put 25 pennies in it and send them your donation (they are charged for postage by the weight).
idiot.
LOL, great idea…I’ll do it!
And bad acting at that,I sent the video to my friends,asking them if it was fake or real. They all said it was an act.
We need to organize campaigns AGAINST those so called Democrats who have blatantly been trying to anoint Obamessiah as the nominee rather than allowing the people’s choice in Hillary to win the nomination. Start petitions against these Obamaton DNC members Find pro democracy Democrats to run against them in their home districts and let these scum bags know exactly why their political careers are being ended by we the people!
Democratic Credentials Committee
I was really upset today, until I got this info on the Credentials committee. Something good just might come of this.
Note that Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt, who were Co-Chairs today both served in the Clinton Administration and Eliseo Roques-Arroyo, I don’t know about…but Hillary is extremely popular in Puerto Rico.
Give ‘em Hell Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop the discrimination and prevent the party from being overtaken by COMPLETE MORONS
Calling the DNC first thing tomorrow morning, letting them know, that they lost another democrat today. I’ve got my registration card and I’m going to tear it up and return it in their postage free envelope, with a note, letting them know what I think of their undemocratic actions today. I don’t see how they could possibly justify what they did today.
Barky Biracial
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LOL! Good name for him!
We R Going 2 The Convention Folks!!!!
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