After the RBC Theft, No Other Outcome is Acceptable
By medusa on June 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM in Barack Obama, Clinton, Credentials Committee, Cultist Thugs, Current Affairs, DNC, Delegates, Democracy, Democratic National Convention, Disenfranchisement, Hillary Clinton, Puerto Rico
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CNN reports that Hillary swept Puerto Rico in a win that contradicts previous voting patterns in this primary:
Clinton won 70 percent of the male vote, 65 percent of voters under 30, 70 percent of voters who attended college, and 66 percent of voters with an income of over $50,000. Clinton also performed strongly among those demographic groups that have long constituted the backbone of her base. She won 70 percent of female voters, 77 percent of those over 65, 69 percent who did not attend college, and 71 percent of voters with an income of $15,000 or less.
Nevertheless, here’s how the NYT reports Hillary’s win in Puerto Rico:
Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, called the island’s primary “another convincing win for Hillary” on CNN, and Mr. Obama conceded the race to her in a speech in Mitchell, S.D. “She is going to be a big asset going into November” in efforts to defeat the Republicans, Mr. Obama said.
A big asset? Only an unscrupulous sexist ass would say such a thing, and we now know beyond all doubt that Barack Obama sets the gold standard in sexism.
Obama appears to be under the impression that he can appropriate Hillary’s victories and more importantly, Hillary’s supporters.Can I say it any more clearly: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA. Obama not only doesn’t represent me, he exemplifies all that I find despicable in politicians. What we’ve learned about Obama since this primary season began is that he is the complete opposite of who he claims to be.As Deb Cupples points out, the RBC assigning half votes to Florida delegates was business as usual with Obama: a two-faced hypocrite stealing votes from Hillary. How do you think Obama’s come this far? We all know that the majority of his “votes’ came from caucusing and we know how the caucuses worked. Working people, those with young kids, and the elderly among others, couldn’t get to the caucuses, and the reports of Obama’s thugs threatening, destroying, forging, and corrupting the caucus process are manifold. Has the DNC done anything to check out these reports? Not to my knowledge. The question that I’m asking myself now: does the DNC represent me? Why did they give Obama four of Hillary’s Michigan delegates? Anglachel posted a theory about this:
Taking away delegates from Hillary and handing them to Obama, however, is not within their purview, and this will come back to bite them in the ass. First, as I said above, it indicates that the internal count of the Obama delegates is weaker than they claim. Four delegates should not make that big a difference, yet they obviously do even with the count reduced by the 50% rule. There is no other rational reason to force this misallocation for such a small number of delegates, given the blowback that will occur.
What’s this blowback going to look like? According to the NYT, Hillary and her supporters need to fall in line behind Obama:
In order for us to be successful in November, the runner-up is going to have to go all out in support of the nominee,” said Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “The runner-up is going to have to be there from Day One. The support is going to have to be more than just lip service.
However, I strongly agree with Harp, a commenter on NQ, who writes:
I have been a Democrat longer than Hillary and if she endorses BO she will lose my respect and my vote. This is not about Obama anymore. This is about the pillaging of the party. The DNC are corrupt and MUST be purged. No other outcome is acceptable.
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To call the RBC outcome a “theft” is wrong. The theft occurred when the MI and FL primaries were pushed forward. The elected officials in both states ignored the warnings from the DNC, and proceeded to disenfranchise the voters of their states. The voters were robbed of their chance to hear the campaign and speeches of the candidates, and the voters of MI were robbed of the opportunity to vote for any candidate except Clinton.
Before the RBC meeting, the theft had already occurred. To seat the delegates ‘as is’ would only act to legitimize the egregious actions of those states. Let’s hope that the voters in these states remember the actions of their elected officials, and boots them out in favor of people who will actually act in the voters interest.
Hi Donna Brazille – nice to see you on the blogs.
We believe you…really.
I can’t support a corrupt DNC.
I thought it was Howard Dean!!!!!!!! lol
Well, that disqualifies Obama.
… and Donna Brazille and Robert Wexler. The heave ho!
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“the voters of MI were robbed of the opportunity to vote for any candidate except Clinton”
This is not factual. It is untrue on TWO accounts. FIrst, there were other candidates on the democratic ballot. Kuchinich and Dodd kept their names on the ballot. Second, the reason michigan voters could not vote for Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Obama is that these campaigns voluntarily removed their names from the ballot. This was done for purely political purposes and was well-discussed in Iowa newspapers including the Des Moines Register of October 11, 2007. It was revealed that the Obama campaign saw polls showing their candidate trailed by over 20% and removed his name to curry favor with Iowa voters. Both Richardson and Obama spent money and led handbill campaigns to get their supporters to vote uncommitted. Any fault for lack of anything but campaigning in Michigan is only the fault of campaigns like Obama’s.
Votes were taken from Clinton and given to Obama by the RBC of the DNC. There was much discussion of hypothetical and rhetorical voters. REAL votes were dismissed. Hypothetical votes were given undue influence.
These actions should shine a bright light on the serious back room dealing that has gone on in terms of setting up the democratic primary season. States with few voters, holding caucuses, and of relatively unimportance in the general election were given based on some back room deal prior to the primary. The moving up of Nevada and South Carolina in a backroom move should also show that the DNC has no interest in reflect reality but more interest in shoving through an agenda and now a singularly unfit candidate. I have not yet registered as an independent, but I have to admit, it’s just a matter of when I can do it. This entire primary situation REEKS of pandering to special interests.
ERIC Have you not a clue in the world or a brain in your head or even the capacity to think?
If you want one of many ways to review the thievery that’s been happening, recommend you look at the well documented SD endorsements that have, in numerous states, contradicted and overruled the will of the people – and the voters of many states.
get a life. and a mind. and most of all some I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y.
That is funny.
You do know that Florida has a Republican governor and legislature, don’t you?
“voters were robbed of their chance to hear the campaign and speeches of the candidates” No, CNN ran countless uncut speeches by all major candidates. They have television in Florida and Michigan.
“voters of MI were robbed of the opportunity to vote for any candidate except Clinton.” Half true. There were minor candidates on the ballot. But, Barack and Edwards did rob Michigan because they were expected to loose there.
I live in the Banana Republic of Michigan where Party Bosses will assign your vote to someone else. If you live in this State please call the Party Bosses and give them your thoughts, I did. The DNC can be reached at 1-202-863-8000 and the Michigan DEMS at 1-517-371-5410
PARTY BOSSES –
they checking thier account balance after obama camp donated some cash to them for those hijacked free delegates
I greatly admired Hillary Clinton before this campaign began; and my admiration of her has only increased as she has so gallantly fought her sleazy crooked opponent, the sleazy crooked press and the sleazy crooked DNC to a virtual tie. With all due respect to HARP, whose comments I generally love, I have faith that she will never do anything that would cause me to lose respect for her.
But if she does not get the nomination, my vote will go to John McCain no matter who she endorses. This country has endured to its detriment two terms of an incompetent, amoral front man for various crooks and thieves; the last thing we need is Obama, an even more incompetent and amoral front man for an even more slimy and thuggish group of crooks and thieves. Not voting or writing in Hillary’s name works in Obama’s favor. McCain would not be a good President, but he would not be the unmitigated disaster that is Obama.
I support Hillary as the sole competent candidate. An endorsement from her does not bestow that competence upon Obama. She’s no more of a magician than is the Precious.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html
Don’t click on troll propaganda links.
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openmind you should not spread propaganda. Hillary is not conceding anything.
I’ve been saying this for weeks, Hillary ain’t no quitter!
Go to rezkowatch DOT blogspot DOT com to read the rest of this:
This is GREAT NEWS! Trolls you can bite me!
Yes, truly the DNC must be replaced with the far more representative and squeaky-clean DLC.
By the way, does this website offer any quarter? I like to spin about your security and I need a place where I will be given quarter.
report to the DNC and Obama campaign they give quarter to those who spin security and are wiling to negotiate our security I hear….its over there to the far far far far left, careful watch out for the lemming rush off the cliff at the very end….
We can also use the Puerto Rico results to estimate how big Rush Limbaugh’s effects on the Dem primaries in PA and KY were. Rush doesn’t have any spanish translation so his delightful show is not heard in PR. 5% of Hillary’s voters from PR said they’d not be happy with her as nominee. However, in Penn, 20% said they’d not be happy with her as nominee and the number was only slightly smaller in KY. Does this mean that 14-15% of Hillary’s vote in ALL RECENT primaries is Republican troublemakers who have NO intent on voting for her ever again? I rest my case.
Obviously, you are an Obama voter engaging in wishful thinking.
Likely, the Puerto Rico vote shows how weak Obama is among Hispanic voters. A fact that will likely mean that McCain will be able and put in play many Southwestern states that Clinton would have easily won.
Waaaahhhh! Poor little Clinton shill doesn’t like the numbers.
Waaaaah poor little Amy her boy can’t get the 17 Million voters who preferred Clinton. And he never will.
Waaahhhhh! Poor little Obamabutt doesn’t like him being behind in the popular vote and having to once again rely on corrupt actions by the DNC to maintain the pretense he is a viable candidate.
If the DNC continues on its suicidal course and gives Obama the nomination, it will be a rude awakening in the GE when you thugs don’t get to “estimate” anything or use physical force as you did to get your paltry little wins in caucus or Republican states.
Waaah! Poor little MessyMarcy is convinced by inane and utterly fraudulent popular vote arguments which not even the slavishly obsequious MSM believes. It relies on Obama getting ZERO votes in MI, it relies on pretending several caucus states simply don’t exist. I doubt even Hillary buys her own BS sometimes!
Explain to me then how did the DNC give him delegates from MI ( Uncommitted) and took Hillary’s and gave them to him if the votes in MI don’t count…..What are you a ….totally idoit?
Wahhhh, poor little Obamabot — I’m a Latina, and believe this… BO is WILL NOT GET OUR VOTE! N E V E R !!!! We’re the swing bloc in this election, and they will vote McCain — Wahhhhh, poor, little Amy, she’s going to be crying a river in November with her college and black buds who thought that THREATS was the way to go. Wahhhhhh
Wahhhh, poor little Obamabot — I’m a Latina, and believe this… BO WILL NOT GET OUR VOTE! N E V E R !!!! We’re the swing bloc in this election, and they will vote McCain — Wahhhhh, poor, little Amy, she’s going to be crying a river in November with her college and black buds who thought that THREATS was the way to go. Wahhhhhh
It’s well-known that Mccain would far rather campaign against HRC than Obama. Republicans have been working overtime to get her the nomination.
Not true. They know Clinton is a more qualified candidate with better character. If not, they’d have unleashed their arsenal of Obama failings info full force by now.
So many people who believe in Father Christmas here! Reality must hurt! Clinton ain’t the better candidate. If she were, she would have won. I’m using winning delegates and elections as a proxy for quality of the candidates. It was close, but not cigar.
Sadly, it will be “not close, no cigar” for you Obots in the fall when McCain hands Obambi his ass.
Hillary or McCain 08!
Amy — There is no way that a man who hates this country and a majority of its citizens is going to be president. His negatives go up daily. The Republicans are going to destroy the phoney Obama and I will watch with glee.
Amy — go away and grow up — Hillary won the popular and all your guy did was win some little caucuses–where he could bus people in and where about 4% of people showed up. Hillary won all the Industrial States. You wanted Obama — you got him. Don’t think you are going to come in here and change any minds. 33% of Democrats will not vote for Obama. But then he says he can win without us. What an arrogant fool he is.
Well, Clinton won the popular vote as long as you throw a bunch of votes away. If you count them all, she didn’t.
It’s irrelevant in any case. That’s not how the primaries are decided. HRC’s on this ‘popular’ kick out of desperation.
Amy — go away and grow up — Hillary won the popular vote and all your guy did was win some little caucuses–where he could bus people in and where about 4% of people showed up. Hillary won all the Industrial States. You wanted Obama — you got him. Don’t think you are going to come in here and change any minds. 33% of Democrats will not vote for Obama. But then he says he can win without us. What an arrogant fool he is.
I thought you airheads were paid by BO to be nice to us, what happened?! Your Fearless leader, Barney Fife, was on the campaign trail today playing nice with Hillary. So, so glad you and your homies keep exposing him for the LIAR and FAKE that he is.
Get a clue.
Amy,
Winning delegates is not analogous to character. If you are truly pro Obama, why not answer those who doubt him honestly. Regardless of delegates, he is considered amoral, lacking character, dubious, untrustworthy, condescending, cocky, sneaky and corrupt. Please answer how you are comfortable with the company he keeps….Ayers, Dorhn, Wright, Pfeger, etc. etc.(the list includes communists, terrorists, and many other anti american people). If you would like to engage in a serious debate of who is the better candidate you must start by proving that his entire past is a)proof of good character and judgment or b) able to excused. EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION PLEASE.
Clinton ain’t the better candidate. If she were, she would have won.
Uh huh. I guess we know where you stand on Bush. Like Obama, he couldn’t pull the popular vote, but his puppet masters declared him the winner. So I guess, since he “won,” he was the better candidate in both 2000 and 2004. If you think Bush was the better candidate, I guess you’ll be happy with McCain.
Of course, that’s true, Amy. Obviously. Better qualified candidate always wins.
Like George Bush. Both of them.
And all the other Repub presidents we’ve had over the last sixty years. Or hundred years.
Brilliant! Shows the superior intelligence of the Obama people.
Riverdaughter of The Confluence has come up with a new party. PUMA.
P=Party
U=Unity
M=My
A=Ass
I’m in.
Riiiight. Because THAT’S what the RNC wants – a better, more qualified candidate campaigning against them. Yep, that’s gotta be the reason for Republicans to vote in a Democratic Party primary.
It certainly wouldn’t be that the RNC/Limbaugh would like to see the candidate that more Republicans dislike in the race, would it?
You Obamabutts must be scared spitless to be using the words “better, more qualified” in your comments. Here’s a clue — we don’t drink koolaid over here at NoQuarter, so when you say “better, more qualified,” Hillary comes to mind. If you want us to think of Obama, you need to use the words “unqualified and unelectable.”
It’s not like Republicans are voting for HRC in the primaries because they think she has a better chance of winning, is it?
The RNC would *love* to see Clinton in the race against McCain. They’d have a much better chance of winning in that case.
LOL!!! so true, so true! BTW — why isn’t Amy & Co. at HuffPo or DK, right now? Arent’ they having pizza and a keg for their premature Inaugural Ball? Or is it the Coronation Ball?
That’s why barack wanted “Dems for a day” in the purple and red states, eh?
Mr.Murder
“Dems for a day” is something a kin to paying on tueday for a hamburger today me thinks.
BO = Wimpy? Is the DNC Oliveoil?
Aren’t the DNC more like Bluto? They’re idiotic, clueless, and they try to beat the crap out of anyone who disagrees with them.
His “Dem for a Day” buddy? Yeah, they speak to the same crowds in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky, don’t you think? Obama is saving big John a lot of time and money campaigning. Only Oblahblah is going to NEED TO CAMPAIGN in all 57 STATES …. hahahahahahaha …. just to win, in say, two?
Your argument only improves the point that voters are less and less content with BO as the nominee. BO’s own voters are experiencing buyer’s remorse and I would be curious as to the % of voters that will never vote for him again (dem , ind , or repub).
Right buyers remorse is already setting in. If I hear take a chance on hope one more time I am gonna puke.
Amy – “14-15% of Hillary’s vote in ALL RECENT primaries is Republican troublemakers” ?? According to what?
Happy to oblige. This is directly taken from TheField, from Rural Votes
And this is the same way the DNC “guessed” at the number of Hillary’s Michigan delegates they needed to award Obama.
What you should be concerning yourself with is the number of Hillary’s voters who say they will never vote for Obama. That percentage seems to be increasing with every contest.
Hillary or McCain ‘08.
messymarch — Hillary or McCain there is no other option. Sent my change of registration form in today. I had a little bomb fire with my old Democratic Registration card.
I think the only Hillary fans who populate the most extreme echo chambers of the internet won’t vote Obama. Most will because the choice of McCain is just too scary. Hillary will vote for Obama, as will “interns” Clinton. The few 100 who repeatedly post on here and on that pornographer Taylor Marsh’s site, who cares who they vote? Ain’t gonna make no difference. A daily KOS diarist noted that there were just a few 100 posters on Hillaryis44 since the start of the year, each posting on average several 100 times, sometimes with different names. Who cares?
Surprises await the ignorant and most childlike among you. No caucuses in November. When you start to see that there is a substantial EARLY VOTE by mail … read that as the old and female who don’t want to be pushed around at the polls. Those numbers will not bode well for boychick …. you can take that to the bank sweetie.
Most will because the choice of McCain is just too scary.
au contraire Amy. First off, it’s one big Echo Chamber. Second lurking is not 100 people. and it is closer to 17.5 million people. Who cares?
I mean don’t trouble yourself looking at facts. That requires to much effort on your part since you have so readily given up your ability to think critically.
All the best to you and yours who as you say don’t care.
Dear Amy, or Samantha Power, or Cruella deVille or whoever you are,
As a Hillary supporter, I NOW think it would be the greatest fun on earth if Obama-the-uniter was FORCED to put our Hillary on his ticket. God, the sight of all of you Clinton haters vomiting in your iced lattes is almost too hilarious to even fantasize about. I’m laughing so hard about that prospect that tears are streaming down my face! And you’d have to be nice to BILL, TOO!! God, it’d be too funny!!!!!
Why would CNN pay for a poll asking a candidate’s own voters if they would not be happy with that candidate. You make no sense at all. I believe they ask what % of voters would be happy if she weren’t the nominee. As you well know, the % of Hillary voters willing to vote for Obama is decreasing with each subsequent primary.
Amy — then why in the HELL is BO always courting Republicans? He’s the one so proud to announce how the Republicans are always whispering in his ear… that they love him, and are supporting him. Keep your stories straight.
When Clinton voters were asked about a general election scenario, 98% said that they would ONLY be satisfied with Clinton on the ticket.
That’s funny. Last I heard, Clinton does well in closed primaries where only registered Democrats can vote. Let me guess… you listen to the fat bastard’s show religiously.
Sorry, Amy.
Ed Rendell already said that 40% of the Republican crossovers were actually WOMEN choosing to vote FOR Hillary.
You won’t get them in November.
Barak Obama will win Illinois, and that’s it.
Mary I thought it was fitting that Obama was hanging with McGovern yesterday. He was the biggest loser the Democrats ever put up. He only won Massachusetts. Landslide loser 72 and landslide loser 08.
Like most of the time, he was talking out his ass with absolutely no backup whatever. I remember when he was “debating” a bunch of College kids. He was just making stuff up. Just like that statistic. He’s a better sports commentator than a Gov.
Only he wins his elections without cheating.
Amy — quick, hurry, you better warn BO about Rendell — he is on his short list for VP.
Now you at the edge of your known universe Amy.
Thanks for the chuckle anyway.
mmm debating…seems to me BO has a debating problem.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/Jun01.html
Jun. 01 Electoral Votes:
Clinton 327 McCain 194 Ties 17
And how about, in the interest of fairness, the other stat?
Obama 276 McCain 238.
In other words, both win. But lest you get too excited, a bounce for candidates who are about to call it a day has often been seen in primary polling over the last several electoral cycles.
HA HA HA HA
AMY U MAKE MY ASS LAUGH
It is too funny — an Obamabutt talking “fairness.” And right after stealing delegates, too. That’s almost as funny as Dean pretending to finally notice the sexism.
Ha ha ha. So let me ask you something. In law, the injured party has the right to appeal. In this case, it was the Michigan Democratic Party (not the voters) which was the injured party. So, given that they came up with the solution to their flawed primary which was endorsed by the RBC on saturday, exactly how is Clinton going to appeal this? I laughed when Sen Levin called Harold Ickes on “how exactly do you have a fair reflection of a flawed primary”. Smackdown! This theft dog ain’t gonna hunt.
What are you doing here Amy — you aren’t going to get any converts here. His Minister thinks it was right to attack us on 9/11, his pal Ayers bombed this country and thinks he should have used more bombs, his pal Louis Farahkan is a noted anti-semite and a black muslim and now we hear his wife hates whitey?
I’m just having fun rattling the bars!
After his leghumping media turn on him, when/if he is nominated via the Dean/Brazile Affirmative Acting Pimp, he’ll be lucky to get Illinois.
Hard lessons ahead for the Cult, hard, hard lessons.
Spot on! And, one of them is: Don’t vote for a Cult leader created by a P.R. firm. Lesson #1) Vote with your principles and for the candidate with the principles that are best for this country — NOT for a a fake, Iconic Man. Lesson #2) Kids should NOT be allowed to pick our President unless they are over 21 or have served their country in service. Lesson #3) Grown-up Adults like Nancy Pelosi, Claire McCaskill, Maria Shriver, Greg Craig, Tweety Matthews and Mike Barnacle– please, you too, MUST GROW UP and STOP taking orders from your kids of who to vote for.
He will not survive the actual vetting he will finally receive, if you back him, does that mean you lack morals, courage, and character as well? EXPLAIN why you think his past is worthy of trust.
After Saturday, I’m convinced that the DNC will do anything they have to do to hand this thing to Obama. Hillary has been villified, minimized, ignored and denied. I’m sick of Howard Dean and all his ilk and I wish they would go far and stay long!
I love Hillary and Bill just like I love Ted Kennedy. I didn’t listen to Ted when he told me to vote for obama and I won’t listen to Hillary if she does either.
Winning in November is going to involve Obama eating several large stinky servings of humble pie and I don’t think he has the stomach for it. That dude is a hot house flower if I ever saw one.
Great analogy!! I agree!
Hot house flower who is winning and lets face it won!
I will not accept Obama as “My” candidate! I am holding out hope that Hillary can still pull this off but I am also a realist and I do not see how she can, given the Machine that has been employed against her!
If she endorses Obama, I will lose alot of respect for her. I am disgusted at what has been done to her and what was done to the chances of a “Great” woman to finally be in a position to break the so called “Glass Ceiling”.
I am not a woman. I can never understand what it meant to women to finally be within reach of the WhiteHouse. My wife and 3 daughters have never participated in the political process. This was the first time I saw them so active in politics. Never again they tell me. Never again will they pust trust in ANY democrate. They have been stung by what Obama and his Idiot circus have done.
I WILL not vote for this Man! I don’t care who endorses this man. I will not do it. I have spent too much time researching this man. I KNOW what he is!
It does not matter if Jeebus endorsed him! NEVER!
According to Fox News, Hillary is not going to concede the race on Wednesday. Her staff is invited to a party in NY, and if they prefer they can take a short vacation while they shift gears for the upcoming floor fight in August. I say go all the way Hillary! We ARE behind you! 17 million strong!
Of course she is not going to concede. The trolls have been spreading misinformation to try and keep voter turnout down in the remaining two states and also to fuck with our heads. Too bad trolls, we are on to you as always.
No, she’s not going to concede. This just in from Rezkowatch:
You are Asian, and like many Hispanics, you guys wouldn’t vote for an African American anyway. Many African Americans believe Asians are sometimes even more racist than whites. So it comes as no surprise you will never vote for the most qualified candidate anyway.
Black people are voting for Obama because of the colour of his skin.
That is the definition of racism.
I have heard more racist crap in the past few months, and it’s all come out of rev. wright or a white catholic. And its been racism against whites, not blacks……
You didn’t even HEAR HIM … you are just a pig. He lamented for his WIFE and DAUGHTERS you stupid bastard … lost to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY … you just don’t GET IT and you JUST DON’T CARE beyond NOVEMBER and watching a once GREAT and out reaching party go down in FLAMES. You and Obama both deserve what you will get and witness. God love you.
It probably has to do with the Korean delis that get burned down in black neighborhoods. Just like many older Jewish voters look back on moments like the 91 Crown Heights riots when they recall well-known black antisemitism.
Yes. And the Hispanics feel the same way about the AA’s in their neighborhoods, and thus, will not vote for Obama.
So let’s recap: Obama won’t get senior citizens, white men or women, blue collar workers, Asians, Hispanics,Jews, Catholics, Koreans, or Puerto Ricans.
He’s gonna win with AA’s and college kids?
He’s going down in FLAMES in November.
Yes. And the Hispanics feel the same way about the AA’s in their neighborhoods, and thus, will not vote for Obama.
So let’s recap: Obama won’t get senior citizens, white men or women, blue collar workers, Asians, Hispanics,Jews, Catholics, Koreans, or Puerto Ricans.
He’s gonna win with AA’s and college kids?
He’s going down in FLAMES in November.
Now let’s be fair, Mary. Howard Dean will probably vote for him, too — if he can get his lips unstuck from Obama’s ass long enough to vote.
He’ll be be able to do a vote by mail from that position.
Asians who come to America are given free loans while African Americans, who built this nation, are routinely denied and blacklisted. Those Korean “delis”, more like liquor stores charge unreasonable prices at the expense of African American customers in African American communities. The rage during the LA civil disobediance is understandable.
Can we see some reputable links about these “allegations?” I am so tired of seeing VICTIM on every racist po me post, it is really helping me with my diet and I will look almost SKINNY in my bathing suit if this kind of garbage keeps up … thanks for your contribution!
Just to be very very clear with you, we get a lot of traffic here from members of the African American community who do see the transparency issue with Obama — which is the REAL issue I have with him — and they won’t be voting for him either. He’s not anyone’s idea of a slam dunk now is he sweetie?
and people wonder why obambi doesn’t have support of asians, hispanics, etc.?
every demographic group except aa’s and latte liberals trashed by obambi and his cultists, then they expect our votes?
despicable AND stupid!
AA are the ones here who have a problem thinking all us whiteys are out to get u!!
get a life your the only ones taking the country back 30-40 years…
When this race started I was impressed with Obama but as things unfolded I knew Hillary was the only one for me. Just like when I thought years ago after watching her and seeing her work diligently for many I felt in my heart she would be an awesome president.
it is not a case us whiteys look at your candidate and think we cannot vote for him because of the color of his skin to be truthful I don;t look at Obama and think OH NO he is black it never enters my head……
We have simply put our faith strength and courage behind the most qualified candidate who has the experience back to GREAT….
I cannot speak for everyone but I am sure that is the truth behind many who are supporting Hillary R Clinton.
She is the woman who simply offers the best for the USA at this time both at home and around the world.
Fix home gas health etc
Bring our Men home from Iraq
Mend the bridges in the world
Slowly rebuild the American Dream with out the above is some way fixed the dream will never be there for us all to reach.
Guess what I want everyone EVERYONE to reach that dream regardless of the color of our skin or Creed.
Thank you Hillary for showing us the way your a beacon in our dimly lit future.
God bless u and god bless AMERICA.
YES MADAME PRESIDENT WE CAN !!
red forgive her — she has been under enormous pressure. Lets take Puerto Rico for instance. She needed a huge turnout and Puerto Rico usually votes 80% which is what we believed was going to happen. However, miraculously 50% of the voters stayed home. Obama has his dirty fingers in every pot. One week after the NC vote the polls show Hillary is leading Obama–just one week later. So we know something funny went down. She has done what she could as a Democrat to show the party she can win in the General and he can’t but the fix is in. I will vote against Obama no matter what but I still hope and pray that Hillary runs as an Independent. Let the Democratic Party get stuck with this loser. Red, to me she is the bravest most wonderful person ever to run for the Presidency. Imagine being called a racist by a racist and having the media at her throat everyday. Try to cut her some slack–Joan of Arc was treated better.
I was in the RBC meeting shouting Denver. I expect Clinton to take it to Denver. She cannot accept the MI theft.
So! You are one of the cro magnons who couldn’t accept the verdict of the committee? Perhaps if Hillary hadn’t initially said the votes were just beauty contests things might have been soooo different. Sigh.
Following is a revised version (including additional material) of an article by Ivan Tyrrell, first published in 1993, that explores Dr Arthur Deikman’s enlightening work on cult behaviour.
Cult leaders demand loyalty and suppress criticism. For them, power must be absolute. Authoritarianism takes precedence over anything else. They often claim that ’special’ knowledge, secret ancient doctrines or divine revelation is guiding them.
You mean “special knowledge” such as existence of tapes which will satisfy their wildest fantasies that HRC can still get to be the Democratic nominee?
mawm — were you the one who was manhandled by those thugs? It reminded me of the Communist Polit Bureau. What a scene that was. Democracy is on life supports. I would rather Hillary leave the party to their loser nominee and run as an Independent. But going to Denver and demanding her rights sounds good too.
Now the BO campaign has the MSM out slamming Bill Clinton like he is some kind of kook because he had heart surgery, I have even heard MSM members of the Obama Fan Base talking about this as a reason not to consider Hillary for the VP nominee. This is just a crock of crap. More unity anyone? SO now BO is not only going to crap on the Clintons by saying that they are racists, etc., now it’s Bill Clinton isn’t right in the head! OMG, I won’t ever vote for BO, what a total asshole. Excuse my language, but I am so irate.
On CNN, the Vanity Fair author of that article says that it seems that Bill Clinton wakes up angry, and goes to bed angry!
Man, I do too…there is reason ENOUGH to be irate with the hijacking and outright theft and flagrant biases that have been practiced against the Clintons and Hillary.
I say…if they want ratings, and BO, Bill and Hillary should end the charade and start a new party…What a blast…all their creative juices would be in full flow, and the country will finally have a third party worthy of that name. And wont’t AT LEAST 17 milliuon of us be happy?
The Clinton’s can take whatever the assholes in the MSM can dish out. They don’t care about that. What they do care about is us human beings.
Hillary is now waaaay ahead of Obama in SD and within striking distance of him in Montana…he was predicted to sweep both states only a few weeks ago.
The rotten, stinky behaviors that his campaign has engaged in are coming home to roost folks…people are FINALLY waking up to his lies, his thievery and his corrupt spiritual alliances…
now if the kool-aid drunk superdels would just come out of their stupor and realize what is happening before it’s too late…
Enjoy your ARG numbers. I’ll read some chicken entrails, myself, since chicken entrails have a much lower margin of error than ARG.
randall that is great news. Yesssssssss
I heard yesterday one of the BoBo camp saying that they will achieve Unity because AFTER he has the nomination they will seat full delegates! Ridiculous!
No Obama, with or without Hillary
Yes, I heard that too — Bob Beckel on Fox, I also heard it again this morning on MSNBC. Pathetic, absurd, arrogant and full of it!
Guess Obama doesn’t need us 17 Million Hillary supporters — GOOD cause he has a snowballs chance in hell of getting us. By the time this is over the only one who will love Obama is his own reflection.
Medusa — thanks for saying this! All of this talk about her being a big asset is because Hillary is supposed to be working her *ss off for BO, oops, her heart off for BO. BO & Co. actually believe that after all is said and done, after all of the non-stop disrespect and vile antics that THEY have perpetrated against Hillaary, that she AND her supporters are now supposed to “give it up” and work tirelessly for BO. The sexist, arrogant, entitlement is too much! Or, as Donna Brazille said, “it’s time for Hillary supporters to take a chill pill..”
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA.
Meh. I really don’t think the maniac voting block is going to swing this election anyways. So, uh… don’t let the door hit ya on the backside.
Another idiot that doesn’t think Obama needs Hillary voters. Get a clue. She has just enough support for her supporters to swing this thing to McCain. Is that what you want? I’ve lived long enough to know you can’t be nasty to people then ask for their vote. It ain’t gonna happen. Obama supporters need to take a chill pill.
We need Hillary voters, yes. But we neither need nor want lunatics who think John McCain is a good second choice. The only thing Hillary Clinton has in common with John McCain is skin color.
Here in Ohio, we will take his votes and give them to McCain. And then we will help our neighbors in West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Kentucky do the very same thing.
We will remember in November.
beebop — I can tell you the same thing will happen in Nevada. Hispanics put Hillary over the top here and they cannot stand BO.
No, candymarl, you need to chill. And you need to realize that the HRC supporters who post on this blog are in the minority and not an accurate representation of the average Clinton voter. Most of you will hop on board and join us in taking on McCain, and thank god! We don’t need four (or god forbid eight!) more years of Republican leadership. Get off your high horse because no one gives a shit anymore. Your candidate lost, and it wasn’t because of sexism, or misogyny of any kind. It was because she assumed it was hers for the taking from the very beginning, and so she didn’t put enough resources into the areas she needed to, thinking that it was already in the bag. That was her biggest mistake, and it’s what cost her the nomination.
Don’t tell me to chill. You think that most Hillary supporters will hop on board? Really? Okay. Keep digging.
I really do. I’m sorry for being rude to you. Let me put it this way. I think the overwhelming majority of voters who are registered Dems will vote for Obama. You’re part of the 10-15% who will never vote for him anyway because you’re convinced that he’s sexist. That’s fine. I hope you’ll enjoy your perpetual pre-emptive war on the middle east that we’ll be embroiled in if McCain becomes president. And if you think the sexism is bad now…..just wait.
Obama has no chance in the ge, with or without Clinton voters.
He’s finished before he’s even started. His leghumpers will turn on him, and elect McCain. Count on Rezko, Wright, Pfleger, Michelle, Ayers, Auch, bitter white people…being on everyone’s lips by October at the latest. By then, Obama and his Affirmative Action Pimps in the Democratic Establishment will be looking for votes with a magnifying glass.
Hard lessons ahead for the Cult, hard lessons.
You’re wrong. Let me tell you why. When I first heard about Obama, I thought, OK, I suppose if Hillary doesn’t win then it’d be great to have a black man become president. Then I found out more about him, and I found out he was corrupt and insincere.
The more that comes out about him, the less people like him. This has NOTHING to do with anger about Hillary, and everything to do with Obama being a bad candidate.
So it’s not just a “small number” of rabid Hillary supporters who aren’t going to vote for him. What’s been coming out of Trinity Church alone is going to lose him the presidency.
Most Americans are moderates. Most Democrats are moderates. They care more about the economy than Obama’s so-called progressive platform. And there’s no way in hell they are going to vote for some unknown guy who went to a church where white people are being blamed for “raping” black people. No way, no how.
As for this idea that sexism is going to get worse under McCain…are you kidding? At least conservative men are RESPECTFUL to women, even if they believe in traditional gender roles. All I’ve been hearing out of the mouths of male Obama supporters is bitch this, c*** that, Hillary’s on PMS, Hillary’s supporters are menopausal, etc….I’ll vote against Obama on that crap alone, never mind his Rezko past or his racist church.
Coolheaded (?): Your comment is a prime example of how Obama supporters have hurt their candidate. Unity? In your dreams. You clearly have no idea how much the mysogynism and race-baiting of your candidate’s campaign has infuriated and insulted women. And if you think the women who post on this blog are not typical of the majority of women voters, you need to do some research. Otherwise you will badly shocked by the results of November’s general election.
cool-headed put this in your pipe and smoke it–33 percent of Democrats will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. Got it? UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Now you chill
Today’s “maniacs” are tomorrow’s McCainiacs. If our votes didnt matter, you wouldn’t be here. But the door hit my ass along time ago. You should really fix it.
Meh. I really don’t think the maniac voting block is going to swing this election anyways.
Good! That means your vote won’t count.
Well it’s obvious they have no intention of offering Clinton the VP spot. They are saying she has to go all out for the nominee not just lip service.
In other words she not only has to be a gracious loser she and Bill must vigorously campaign for him.
They’re telling her what she must do.
It’s obvious they don’t just want her to lose. No, they want her humbled and humiliated for daring to stay in the race. Then when she helps Obama win she’s to go away.
You know, I’ll probably vote Democratic in the fall. Or maybe I’ll just stay home. But I tell you this sticks in my craw. I don’t mind losing as long as the contest is fair. Obama has been media driven from the get-go. Several reporters admitted that the press hates her and loves Obama. That’s great for him.
But the press also loved Bush and hated Gore. It works out really well when the press helps pick the President – NOT.
However, I strongly agree with Harp, a commenter on NQ, who writes:
I have been a Democrat longer than Hillary and if she endorses BO she will lose my respect and my vote. This is not about Obama anymore. This is about the pillaging of the party. The DNC are corrupt and MUST be purged. No other outcome is acceptable.
Hillary will never loose respect from me . I might be more sad or little mad for a while .But this is my vote and i will cast to whomever i wish to not whoever hill will wish to(SHE BE STILL WINNER FOR ME) . Thats the differnece between obamabots(THEY JEDI EFFECT ON THEM) and hill supporters .we are not bots ,we have our own brains and we will vote MCCAIN if obama is the nominee.
sonia, agree completely. hillary will do what she has to do. i respect her for that. however, we will vote mccain.
and to mxt (below) and all the other assholes who say we’re not true dems if we vote mccain – true dems don’t tell true dems who true dems are. mxt and his ilk are just assholes who use name-calling because it’s the best their small minds can do.
screw ‘em.
a true dem believes in democracy. this true dem will vote mccain. in the interests of democracy.
lol
horseshit. If you don’t support Obama in the GE, you’re not a true Democrat with a capital D.
period.
LOL
CAPITAL D FOR U –DONKEY ASS
if Odrama was a real democrat it might be different
he’s just a user
a poser
a hater
a greedy punk
saw what you want about Hillary
I don’t care
She’s got more guts and goodwill in her left pinkie than BHO has in his entire “long legged mack daddy” body
(that quote is not mine, it comes from Paster Manning) lol gotta luv that one!
Yeah, that’s pretty cool. Attacking Obama for his physical appearance. Fuck off and go vote for McCain. We don’t need people like you! You’ll fit perfectly in his constituency of ignorant robots!
yep, thats right, Obama doesn’t need the white vote, or the women’s vote or Hispanics, or seniors vote. Or the working man’s vote. Do I guess he’ll win the general with just College Kids and the Black vote. Goodluck!!
Who is this “we”, sweetie?
Thanks for the laugh. and for passing along the talking point from your Marxist leader;Der Fuhrer.
Unity eh? Not a Dem? No igit I am an independent and that is a HUGE voting block BO can’t get. Never had. And never will.
Good luck with your need to be a follower for your authoritarian needs.
I’m an American with a capital “A”. That means I can vote for whomever I please.
I’ve been a Democrat longer than you’ve been alive, Obamatot, and I can tell you I will NEVER vote for Barack Obama–a man I was absolutely dotty about until just a few months ago.
Nor will I vote for McCain–I’ve never voted Republican in my life and I’m not about to start now.
Which–of course–is why I won’t vote for Obama, the Republican/corporatist Trojan horse who wants to destroy what’s left of the New Deal and plans to fill his (fantasy) cabinet with Republicans like Chuck Hagel.
What ignorant, arrogant little fools you lot are!
Anyone who can hold down lunch after agreeing that one person equals one half vote is no Democrat, big d, little d, no d …..
We will remember in November …. sweetie!
I know people are going to be mad at me for asking this and assume I’m an Obama supporter (I’m not), but how is that quote sexist exactly? It certainly makes it clear he assumes it’s all over and he’s the winner, so big-headed perhaps, but sexist?
yea that didn’t bother me either
It inplys that she can be “used a asset” in November. Not good enough to be the real thing, but good enough to be used…
It inplys that she can be “used as a asset” in November. Not good enough to be the real thing, but good enough to be used…
that’s what they DO tho right? Or that’s what I’ve seen for 52 yrs.
I don’t think Terry was doing anything other than his job. And he’s always just so happy about it. I wish I had his good nature. It must have been killing him to say it.
jmo
but that’s show biz (to some extent)
I don,t think thats sexist
but that just hurts right in my ass when i hear it .
Because hillary did not give her concession speech yet ,so why bho will be talking with the assertion as if it was all over and hill will support her .
Its the arrogance of him that hurts.
During the early CNN debates, the CNN video camera man would zip behind the candidates and aim his camera at her ass when she spoke. He only did this to Hillary. It was only for a few seconds, but it sent a subliminal message (like the ones on Obama’s web site).
So when he calls her a big asset, I suspect that is his way of referring to something else.
I Agree With Harp Aswell Through This Campaign Over 17 Months I Have Gotten Closer To Senator Clinton’s Efforts And If She Support’s Mr Obama In Anyway She’ll Lose My Respect Aswell.The Reason Most Of Her Supporter’s Are Mad As Hell Now Is Because Of The Way She Were Treated By The Media,And Mr Obama,And I Know Personally He Can’t Stand Senator Clinton It’s In His Body Language,And Her Support Him.They Have Stolen Voters From Her,Stolen Delegates,Wouldn’t Come To Her Aid When Being Attacked And That Tramp Nancy Pelosi Is Doing Everything She Can To Lose Mrs Clinton In Her Afterthoughts,Support Obama Noway In Hell Not In This Life Or My Other Life After I Get Finished With This One(I Promise You Dis Dat And De Orther Ting) Sounds Familiar
Such disgusting display of arrogance we have in Obama. The nerve to give a speech when Hillary trounces his @ss, AGAIN, and says such a ridiculous statement that she will be of use for him in November. No wonder South Dakota is also rejecting him incredibly.
If the Party doesn’t see this and choose wisely, that means they will have chosen poorly and lost the election.
Lets hope some wise folks choose the candidate with the most votes and the one who will win big for Democrats and nominate Hillary.
Otherwise it’s, Asta La Vista-Ba By.
What ever happened to earning my vote? BO should be reaching out to me, not HRC.
I will not support Obama, no matter what, and most likely not any dem’s either. I find it a hard pill to swallow after all that has been done to women in this country. It just goes to show you, that even IF a women works harder than a man, and produces more effect, it still boils down to one thing. She is not a man, period. SO I will vote for a rep. for the first time in “my adult life”, and will continue to do so, until this party stops cheating. The giving away of delagates that were not earned, is proof enough for me!
What exactly has Obama done to every woman in this country, low info?
Tired of explaining to low f’ing lifes like you, maddie … shove the hell off, will ya’ sweetie?
He has 99 of them….Obama done ?
Lost.
Hey we don’t have to put a D after our names. There’s a little something called “I” – Independent. Independents make up a large voting bloc. I say we all register Independent and let the big “D” beg for our votes.
big R is begging a LOT on this blog too! don’t think I don’t notice!
sorry charlie
I’ll never turn RED
I’d rather be DEAD
but I’ll NOT vote for Odrama either
I may vote for McCain IF IT LOOKS like Barky is still stealing………..
but if he IS??? my vote won’t matter
it will be erased or what ever this banana republic is turning into (the last 7 yrs)
“the voters of MI were robbed of the opportunity to vote for any candidate except Clinton”
Revisionist history continues. If you have a problem with who was on the ballot, your argument is with the Richardson, Edwards, Biden and Obama campaign. These campaigns were being trounced in the polls in Michigan. They made a political decision that had nothing to do with the pledge to NOT campaign in Michigan to remove their names from the voters.
I’ve heard that dead people vote in chicago. Well, the DNC has now given votes to rhetorical and hypothetical voters as well stolen voters from the Clinton campaign. The DNC and the state of MIchigan certified the election as legitimate.
Eric should stop spreading lies and begin to do research on exactly what the facts are on his candidate and this primary.
If the DNC does not revisit the backroom deals that gave caucus voters in tiny, unimportant to the GE states more than the largest primary voting states in the country, every democratic candidate presidential candidate will be subjected to the call of illegitimacy.
I understand why Senator Clinton would work to have a democrat at Motel 1600. But as much as I respect the senator my vote won’t be leaving the light on for BO. Period.
Nor will at least 30 people I know who would otherwise vote for Senator Clinton. good luck winning Ca Dems…
I will keep pushing for Hillary until the votes in Denver are cast. Until then it ain’t over till we say it is.
My life-long commitment to the Democratic party is over. As a Latina I see just where women fit–no where.
This weekend was the saddest of my political life–worse than the day that Bush was appointed by SCOTUS. I say this because now I see that the Democrats are no different. I have a heavy sad heart. I will not vote for the man who used all these trix to steal from Hillary. Michigan was a complete theft.
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well maybe, but at least we haven’t lost our souls, like you.
Her campaign has refuted all talk of concession. ABC news. You celebrate prematurely methinks.
You have to have a soul to lose it.
Just sayin’…
Think NOVEMBER, idiot.
Your posts will HARM your candidate.
Honey, does your mommy know what you’re posting on the computer?
You drink too much kool-aid.
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The Dean/Brazile Affirmative Action Pimps, along with the Dem establishment, will shed bitter tears tomorrow. Clinton will take this all the way to Denver, where their pimping will be front and center for all to see.
Hard lessons ahead for the Cult of the Glib Nonentity. Hard, hard lessons.
Does anyone care that Harold Ickes is one of the RBC members that voted to strip Michigan and Florida of ALL their primary delegates in 2007?? And now he’s complaining that they were stripped of only half??? It’s literally his fault, along with the other members of the RBC, that this situation has arisen.
How in the world are Senator Clinton’s supporters blaming Senator Obama for adhering to the rules set forth prior to the beginning of the primary?
Vote for Sen. Obama; don’t vote for him.
But please, let’s not create an injustice where one has not occurred.
And FYI, the Michigan Democratic Party agreed to a delegate compromise. Why is that not good enough for Democrats who have no stake in Michigan politics??
“But please, let’s not create an injustice where one has not occurred.”
An injustice has occured and I’m not going to be “getting over it” anytime soon.
You should take that song and dance over to the Great Orange Cheetoh.
“Does anyone care…?”
No.
My number one choice for this primary was Sen Edwards. After he endorsed Sen Obama, I lost all respect for him. He is a quitter and a loser.
Hope Sen Clinton runs as an Indpendent and I will admire her more big time.
How much worse could McCain be than Obama? We know that Obama doesn’t care about universal health care or any other domestic issue except “unity” (And he sucks at that). He didn’t care enough about Iraq to hold one hearing on the subject. (Does anybody really think he can get our troops out of there safely?) And he wants to remake the Democratic Party in his own image. (No thanks, Barry.)
Did I mention his character? Who the hell is he?
How about four short years of McCain while we try clean up the mess?
McCain is far better than snObama.
McCain is a known – we know who he is.
snObama — who the hell is he really?
We do know that snObama is a constant liar — he lies about everything. So snObama would be the continuation of GWB.
Any candidate who starts as an “unknown” with the sort of spending money snObama has — to me this is a huge red flag — which tells me that snObama is NOT clean and for “change”.
What does change mean anyway??
Obama… the affirmative action nominee
senator obama sez:
“She is going to be a big asset going into November” in efforts to defeat the Republicans, Mr. Obama said. nytimes”
why does this guy always sound about as human as one of those talking dolls.
Until we know otherwise please assume Hillary is staying in this for a floor fight at the convention.
She has every right and I anticipate she won’t cave in to pressure from a bunch of whiny trolls, Obama or the assholes at the DNC.
Hillary cares deeply about us and knows she has to be the next president.
to eric, the first poster: The “elected officials” you speak of were the GOP majority in FL. Get your facts straight!
HIllary Clinton and her supporters have been ROBBED. I and MILLIONS of those supporters will NEVER vote for Obama, even if Hillary takes the VP slot. How’s that? Suck it up!
Can you say President McCain. Has a nice ring to it, don`t you think.
I can easily say President McCain. He’s not quite the right wing boogey man Obama supporters were hoping for. McCain doesn’t scare me nearly as much as Obama does.
It’s going to be Clinton or McCain. Obama is unelectable.
Amen to that!
I don’t care what they agreed to. In politics perception is everything. People perceived GWB as a uniter and it allowed him to steal the WH. Hillary supporters perceive an injustice has taken place.
Did Ickes vote for this? Who knows? Even Donna Brazille and Howard Dean aren’t saying that and you know they would. The media, that progressives suddenly trust, told us that. The same media that sold us on Iraq is now selling us on Obama. If that doesn’t set off alarm bells I don’t know what would.
$120,000,000 in bank before campaign began, now in debt. Presumptive nominee since 2005, now in 2nd place. Most recognizable democratic name, then couldn’t win the nomination.
Move on already! There is nowhere left to move the goal posts.
Whitewater, Vince Foster, Rose Law Firm, Lewinsky, Cattle futures – all would have been fair game in November and thats what voters want to get away from. That is, voters who have a brain, and not the psycho mental patients who cried and yelled like two year olds at the RBC meeting because their favorite candidate could not win and they were not getting their way(see above).
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This my friends is the generation that is going to “SAVE” all of us from ourselves. I wonder how long it will take before their attention is diverted?
The above shows you the intteligence of those we are dealing with! Go back to MySpace and collect more “friends” Idiot!
If you REALLY believe that you can win without the “Base”, than you have had your nose to far up Obama’s A**! Those of us that have fought in the trenches for years know that this is a fad to you, what you fail to see is that this is not a game. I understand your passions, what I don’t understand is, how you could have dismissed all the negative shit on Oblama and still think you can win..The General Election is not a caucus. YOU WILL NEED US when the time comes. Too bad we will all be voting for McCain!
youlost, We’ll see about that. YOU haven’t tried to cash your Obama chips in yet, fella! It won’t be long before you discover they’re counterfeit.
Sorry for repeating this comment from above, but I think it needs to be re-said and clarified a little.
During the early CNN debates, the CNN video camera man would zip behind the candidates and aim his camera at Hillary’s ass when she spoke. He only did this to Hillary. It was only for a few seconds, but it sent a subliminal message (like the ones on Obama’s web site).
So when Obama calls her a big asset, I suspect that is his way of referring to something else.
Obama is not just sexist and racist, not just a liar, thief and criminal, but is Evil.
Stop being sore losers and support the Democrat nominee Hillary supporters! How would you rather have in the White House? Kooky old white male John McCain, and his stepford wife or someone who is young, intelligent, articulate, honest, handsome, electrifying, exciting, whose wife is strong, intelligent, Jackie-esque? The choice is simple. Clinton had a good run, it’s time to support OUR candidate in the GE!
Obama honest???? How come your reasons for supporting him don’t include any accomplishments?
That’s because he has none, other than funding slumlords, wacko priests and nostalgic terrorists.
Truly the first Affirmative Action candidate, thanks to the Dean/Brazile losers.
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race?
If I were an outsider, I’d say people here belong to the racist wing of the Democrat party.
I wish you could see my finger …. you’re just going to have to take my word … you belong to the FACIST/MARXIST wing of the party … something each and every one of us will fight to the end !
“young” = inexperienced. Remember Bush was fairly young when he became president. “articulate?” have you heard Captain Uhh try to speak without a teleprompter?
“honest” What? What? What? He has been caught in more lies that all the rest of the candidates who ran this year combined. “handsome” That’s the most idiotic qualification for President I have read. Would Brad Pitt be your first choice if he were running?
He is not now, nor will he ever be, “OUR” candidate.
Brad Pitt? LOL, he is just another white boy with bad BO (or so I hear).
Who would I rather have in the fall? Well Obamabot how about I want a person with a brain and that would be Hillary or McCain and then I want a person with morales again that would be Hillary or McCain. I also want a person who is not racist or sexist and that would be Hillary or McCain. I want a person who doesn’t need to STEAL elections but can win them on their own so that would be again Hillary or McCain. I am going to vote for one or the other and Obamabots she is going to stay in the race and he can take her being an asset in the fall and bite me in my big black ass. So Obamabot you little pisspots are going to be uniting with the losers squad and to the Clinton supporters who have been nice and has given him one state I would disagree with you I see a 50 state loss. So Obamabot go report to your Master that those stubborn Clinton supporters are not backing you.
Once again, more prejudices rearing their ugly little heads among Obama cultists. So for your information:
It is prejudice to discriminate against “old” people in favour of younger people and vice versa.
It is prejudice to discriminate against “white males” in favour of other coloured males or females.
It is prejudice to vote for someone who is “handsome” over someone who isn’t.
As for Obama being “young”, check his birthday. He is old, not young.
As for Obama being “handsome”, check your eyes. Dumbo ears and a perpetual frown and angry glare do not constitute the definition of handsome. Nor does the same suit and shirt worn every day for a year and a half.
As for Obama being “articulate”, check his speeches against one another, and find out who the Stepford candidate really is.
As for Obama being “honest”, check your facts. You don’t have to go far – this blog is full of them.
As for Obama being “electrifying” and “exciting”, check yourself into a cult rehab centre. No one puts me to sleep faster than Obama. He is like a tranquilizer gun.
As for Obama’s wife being Jackie-esque, check her wardrobe – basic Saudi-moslem burqa black and grey is not Jacki-esque unless you are talking about high-jackiesque attire.
In a contest of who is more elegant, sophisticated, creative in dress, Hillary or Obama’s snake-oil salesman wife, Hillary wins hands down.
In a constest of who was most handsome, at 20, 30, 40 and 50, McCain wins hands down too.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So you may want to take that O-beam-a out of your eye.
As for Obama’s wife being strong and intelligent, or Obama being so, that is a matter of opinion and debate. Based on his political resume, he is anything butt.
You seem rather uninformed. Have you read a newspaper in the last two years? Young, electrifying, handsome, exciting, articulate, intelligent, honest, Kennedy-esque are how the public routinely describes Barack and Michelle Obama. You really should be more informed on current events.
Pal, I think your are confused… that is the lick-ass Obama-media.
LOL …you are pathetic.
We would love “someone who is young, intelligent, articulate, honest, handsome, electrifying, exciting, whose wife is strong, intelligent, Jackie-esque?”
Where is he????
Bill can`t run again.
…or someone who is young, intelligent, articulate, honest, handsome, electrifying, exciting, whose wife is strong, intelligent, Jackie-esque?
Is there someone like that in the race? Where has he been hiding? Is he an Independent candidate?
“How in the world are Senator Clinton’s supporters blaming Senator Obama for adhering to the rules set forth prior to the beginning of the primary?”
There was a proposal to have a redo of FL and MI and Sen Obama rejected it. Because he knows he is going to lose since it was after the “GD America” and “bittergate” comment.
Once Obaba is nominated it will no longer be the party we once knew, Obama’s colleagues and friends will see to that:
Laura S. Washington, an In These Times senior editor, teaches journalism at DePaul University
and is a columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times.
Views > August 17, 2006
Debunking the 60s with Ayers and Dohrn
Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, activiists leaders in SDS in the ‘60’s, say a new movement must be built.
By LAURA S. WASHINGTON
They are storied and iconic,
America’s Numero Uno radical
couple. In the ’60s, Bernardine
Dohrn and Bill Ayers were activists
and leaders in Students for a
Democratic Society and the
Weathermen. Dohrn, now 64, and
Ayers, 61, played starring roles as
Vietnam War dissenters. When their
protests turned violent, they became fugitives from the law.
Forget the Democrats, they say. “The Democratic Party supported the war in Vietnam …”
Dohrn began. Ayers cut in: “Led the war in Vietnam.”
“And they’ve been supporting, and leading this war,” Dohrn continued. “I don’t look to
the Democratic Party. I don’t have hope for the Democratic Party. I think the Democratic
Party is bankrupt. And I think the only answer is for us to build an independent, radical
movement, and, I mean, the big ‘us.’ “
… Electoral politics is a tool to connect causes,
like gay rights, disability rights, voting rights, human rights. “That’s how you use
electoral politics. Not as an end in itself, but as an organizing mechanism. Our deepest
belief, I think, is that we need to connect all these good projects and build the movement.
…we should always be positioning ourselves, thinking, okay, if I’m involved in this next
election, how am I positioned to help contribute to building a movement, raising
consciousness, making the connections, and that’s a real tricky business.”
If Obama supporters can now take the time to post “you lost” that just goes to show the childish people that have no clue about the issues of the nation, to them politics is a game, and these are the folks that will select a nominee for all of us.
Maybe I am too serious but I always thought politics was a serious thing, and who run this country was also a serious issue, but when I see supporters not jumping for glee and posting “you lost” like a 5 year old, I have to say that this country is a deeper doo doo than I thought.
Kids rule the net
Adults usually have to work and can’t blog
Kids are the base (along with AA’s) of BO’s group. How else should they act?
LOL it’s biological
I agree with you on that they are big babies lol I cannot wait until they are defeated in Novemeber and then they will never vote again and then real adults can make the decisions that the DNC is leaving to a bunch of drug addicted drunks.
Hah! Let me tell you, for someone not living in the US, one day’s exposure to the writers on this blog would definitely disabuse them of any notion that US politics aren’t both childish and immature.
I would like to help all the BO pod people out so I`m providing a link that you will soon need. No thanks are necessary.
The Royal College of Psychiatrists
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/
Since the start of this primary BO has disowned nearly all the people who have been around him and supported him for last 20 years, except MO and the 2 girls. I’m afraid if the Whitey tape hits the airwave, BO too will leave MO… Anyone wants to bet on that? BO has no faith? What kind of a man is he? And more importantly, WHO IS BO?
Okay, I’ll take you up on that. But if Obama throws Michele under the bus, I’m moving over. I don’t want her angry voice in my ear.
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I’ve been saying this for weeks, Hillary ain’t no quitter!
Go to rezkowatch DOT blogspot DOT com to read the rest of this:
Bad news for Obama, Hillary’s not conceding
This is GREAT NEWS! Trolls you can bite me!
I knew it too She is no quitter and she will remain in until the convention. I knew it does serious happy dance. Take that you Obama Koolaid drinkers. Take that you rude leader of the foul Obamabots who are trying to take over the Earth. I am in some kind of mood today. We must defeat the Obamabots by any means necessary.
I didnt mean any means necessary like that I mean that we have to defeat him by any Political means necessary.
First, Nancy Pelosi said that whoever has the “popular vote” should not be overturned by superdelegates and that person should be our nominee. Now Pelosi is saying whoever has the “most delegates” should be the nominee. Sound familiar with how the party elite and the DNC has changed whenever necessary to accommodate their chosen one. Well here it is in my opinion. If the “superdelegates” are dumb enough to sell our nation out to Obama, lets get as many of them as possible out of this party. I will never vote for Obama on any ticket. A dispicable thing he is. His supporters, Hamas lovers, white haters, etc. If it isn’t the most qualified candidate “Hillary Clinton” then it will be McCain. I don’t trust the democratic party anymore and they definitely should take the word “democratic” out of the party’s name. They don’t adhere to it so they don’t deserve it.
That is why I keep saying ,the party MUST be purged.
Nancy said that because it would help her Messiah and now that Hillary has the popular vote they are changing their minds. I am so sick of the Dems I really want a Republican Majority for a few years to teach them a message. I would not worry with McCain behind the Oval office desk that man is as much a Democrats as the two Democrats running. I dont care what the Obamabots try to convince me. I am active in Politics and know more then a bunch of snotty nose brats, I know I worry less about the country under McCain and of course Hillary then I do under Barky the wonder retard
We are in a transformative age (and I do not mean to be snide about Obama’s use of the term). Just as many citizens of the US no longer automatically applaud when the U.S. goes to war, many voters are not party people. I could give a rat’s derriere about either party.
But I do want an effective leader.
I think McCain would be a fairly crappy president. But I think Obama would be a disaster. And many people supporting Clinton seem to feel the same way, as I read the polls.
Here’s something from Victor Hanson — not my kind of thinker on most issues. But he and I share a common view of Obama and his church:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDI1YWRkZDI2M2I0YzdhYTA4Zjc5NzZmZDlmMGZlOWI=
I saw those people cheering, and I said — how could he stay in a church like that for 20 minutes, not just 20 years. When my wife and I met, we went to a local Lutheran church she had gone to once in a while. (I was an Episcopalian then.) We heard an astounding sermon, railing against gay people. Needless to say, we never went back.
Obama attended a bigoted church for 20 years.
Twenty years.
If you think I’m ever voting for someone like that . . . and Hillary could come to my doorstep and do somersaults and ask me to vote for Obama and I still wouldn’t.
I also agree that the democratic party needs to be scrapped & flushed down the toilet
my family has been democratic for years.
I will never vote for obama
NEVER
The media and press did us such honor in pushing this crap like we would believe them If Obama wins we can all BOKOAGB
There is another explanation which is to show the have absolute power. Publicly humiliate your opponent to control and show you can do what you want. (typical of violent bullies btw).
What is is beyond extreme beliefs is that the DNC went along when there was no need for it with the consequences and precedent that stealing will entail.
There is another explanation which is to show they have absolute power. Publicly humiliate your opponent to control and show you can do what you want. (typical of violent bullies btw).
What is is beyond extreme beliefs is that the DNC went along when there was no need for it with the consequences and precedent that stealing will entail.
If you’re wanting to make a statement, don’t you think it might make more of one to write Senator Clinton in the ballot rather than voting for McCain? Either direction would take the vote away from Obama, and both lead to more of a chance for McCain to win. So why not write-in?
It hurts Obama more if you vote for McCain and the bigger Obama’s loss, the more likely it is to wake up our party.
I’m sorry, but this is wrong and you can’t ask that of Hillary. At this time, and for the foreseeable future, there is no other party, and if one were to be formed it might take years for it to be viable. Asking Hillary to quit the party is like a death knell for her career, and for any hopes we might have for the future. I have come to the conclusion that I could vote for Obama for one reason alone, and that’s with Hillary as vp. This I could give some consideration. Her leaving the party? That’s just cutting off her nose to spite her face. Please don’t ask it.
Why is Hill getting rid of staffers? What is going on?
This is for all those who say Clinton only started calling for seating the delegates after she thought she was losing.
Clinton alone in push for Florida delegates
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published January 26, 2008
Trying to ramp up the importance of Florida’s Democratic presidential primary, Hillary Clinton on Friday called for her Democratic rivals to join her in helping get Florida delegates seated for the national convention.
They didn’t bite.
“I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee,” the New York senator said in a statement. “I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan.”
The Democratic National Committee stripped all the delegates from Michigan and Florida as punishment for scheduling primaries earlier than allowed by national party rules. Winning the nomination requires winning delegates, so technically that makes Florida’s Democratic primary meaningless.
But with Clinton comfortably leading in Florida polls, it’s in her interest to stress the importance of Florida’s Democratic primary and in Sen. Barack Obama’s to downplay it. The Obama campaign has repeatedly dismissed the Florida Democratic vote as irrelevant to the nominating contest, which doesn’t sit well with some top Florida Democrats.
I’m so sick of black men trying to steal things that don’t belong to them! No wonder middle class white women will be forced to vote for McCain.
At least Hillary and McCain are sticking up for white Americans. The Obamabots want to turn the Democratic party into the Black Panther party.
You can’t steal things that belong to you.
I didn’t know this was a black and white issue.
Should I go?
No don’t go. I bet you anything that idiot above is an Obama supporter who is trying to play himself/herself off as a Hillary Clinton supporter.
Racist white b!tch! This country is built by the blood, sweat and tears of black men. You whites have been robbing and raping the black community for over 400 years! How dare you?!
Sorry, hon, I’m not taking your bait. I have black friends who deserve better than your troll race-baiting and black friends who support Hillary. We’re not against Obama, because he’s 7% African and has the appearance of a black man. We’re against Obama, because we don’t want a trainee in the White House when Iran goes ballistic. Enough said.
<a href=”http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/clinton-spokesp.html”?Clinton Spokesperson: She Is Not Conceding
Bite me trolls.
Clinton Spokesperson: She Is Not Conceding
Bite me trolls.
I just logged on the first time today and wow, did someone let the special ed Obamabots out of school early or what? These are some of the lamest and most inarticulate comments from BO’s dirty dozen ever written. Maybe too much kool aid does lead to brain damage.
To my fellow Hillary supporting friends, she will not concede. We know our girl. Onward and upward!
It’s all over folks, time to pack it. As MSNBC has so eloquently put it: “It’s Barack’s party now”!
MSNBC is the propaganda arm of the Obama campaign.
Clinton Spokesperson: She Is Not Conceding
Bite me trolls.
Coward Dean & Co can take that UNITY song they have been singing at the DNC meeting stick it up their asses… Stealling votes and delegates from Hillary and giving them to Obama is not a way to unit the party. Fairness and justics = UNITY.
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do you honestly think Obama would have not received ANY votes in Michigan if the election was valid and counted? Come on people.
The election is vaild and votes counted… you fool… they gave him delegates without = stealing votes….How stupid are you…? Leave this blog if you are that stupid… delegates couldn’t not be given base on what could have happened. Votes = delegates….get it!
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