Obamatrons On the Attack
By Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on June 4, 2008 at 1:26 AM in Bloggers, Current Affairs, Obama's Thugs
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Right ON!!! Singing to the choir over here!!
I don’t support Obama any more than I support Clinton. Both Senators Clinton and Obama are moderate Republicans (according to their voting records and political tactics), there is NO Democrat in the running for President.
My question is this:
If you will “never accept Obama” and IF he does wind up being the Dem nominee in Nov., will you vote at all?
I will tell you my answer, I don’t know. I’ve been faced with that question since the last actual Democrat was hounded out by the media. Since John Edwards left the race I have completely ignored the whole thing.
I honestly don’t know that I could bring myself to vote on the President line in November, since it’s a given that GOP operative Obama or GOP operative Clinton will be the ‘Democratic’ choice.
I’ve seen both of these candidates act like Republicans during this campaign, and both candidates are wholly owned by their respective multi-national industries, so I have no allegiance to either.
So who would you vote for?
Would you vote at all?
And what if (hypothetical) Clinton joins Obama in one form or another? Would you vote for Obama if Clinton was named ahead of time as HHS Secretary with full reign to implement a health care plan. What then?
I don’t get it.
You’re a Democrat who has information for us that frankly would sway my decision if you brought it out… But you’re going to wait till after Barack Obama secures the nomination to bring it?
That makes no sence. Unless, you’re actually a Republican who wants to use the rumor of a tape to scare us to the ’safer’ candidate who you can beat handily.
I’m a regular on the Hillary Facebook board. As you probably have noticed, they get frantic whenever a primary is held. Now that their guy has crowned himself, they are just even frantic than ever. It is a little odd. If he’s the nominee, what are they worried about? Is this their way of courting us? If so they’re more like stalkers.
Sorry, I meant more frantic than ever. I also meant to say a huge thank you to Larry for providing one of the few pro-Hillary voices on the internet. You are a small but invaluable minority.
I have Facebook but rarely use it. Do I just search for a Hillary Facebook group and join it? Thanks.
I’m on Bitch Is the New Black. I’m also a Hillary Myspace friend.
OK I’m already on Bitch is the New Black. I’ll check it out.
… and Black is the New President.
I highly doubt he will ever be POTUS.
Even if the tape doesn’t exist, there is extreme hatred of this man whose intimate relationships with racists and far left criminals has only just begun to surface.
McCain has been one of the voices of reason in the Republican ranks over the years, and moderates and independents like him.
Just wait until the Republican attack machine hits full force in October and he is fully exposed.
Obama will be lucky to win 200 electoral votes while Clinton is a sure bet.
The Clintons are the greatest politicians of our generation, they know they are going to win or there would have been a concession last night. Hillary would not have risked her chances in 2012 by challenging his nomination otherwise.
I hope hillary isn’t VP because I would hate to have to vote againster. Just say no to B.H.O. Hey, we can call him that now right.. the pussy party is over and the real fight is beginning… HUssein
And who is Black? I thought the three candidates were Senators Clinton, McCain and Obama…or are you alluding to bi-racial candidate Barack Obama who is as much white as black?
If we start choosing our candidates based on ancestry I’d like to know if either of the other two candidates in this U. S. melting pot are Native American, or Asian, or Hispanic. Think Senator Clinton would be better “qualified” if she had chosen to run on ethnicity instead of gender? (Something as obvious and hard to hide as skin color.)
And, as we said in 2000, count all the votes before declaring victory…or else get that lawsuit filed in the Supreme Court to stop the count before doing another Bush coronation.
What was it Martin Luther King said, “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Obama must be judged by the content of his character and Dr. King wasn’t one his mentors forming that character - it was white Ayers, Syrian Rezko and “God Damn America” Wright to name three.
Nominee — even if he makes it out of Denver — does not equal new president … there is a general election in November against John McCain … you know what a General Election is, right? Everyone does get to vote and one person is actually allowed a full, unawarded VOTE?
Black isn’t even the democratic nominee.
Sucker.
You always believe what corporate news mediocrities tell you?
The media refer to McCain as the “presumptive nominee”, but they seem to forget the “presumptive” part when refering to Obama, so I guess that he is the “presumptuous nominee”.
Ha! I like it!
http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=6662822757
This is the official Hillary wall on Facebook. It’s where the action is.
He is not the nominee that’s why they are frantic. There is fear in the air. Whatever he claims is false utill the convention.
I didn’t realize how much I enjoy this site until I couldn’t reach it today.
I don’t watch TV news so I look to you for my “punditry” fix.
Thank You
Thank you Susan also.
Write in HRC’s name..some say.
Is anyone thinking she will choose vp?
I agree obamabots are in panic mode due to the fact that it is very believeable that MO said damaging things that are on a tape that may exist. I do believe there is a tape, however I think it isnt coming out till after denver. But even if there isnt a tape MO is a big problem for BO, due to the fact that people do think she is capable of being a racist and that says alot.
I think no to vp
Never but even so I’d vote for OJ first. Disgusted by his post-racial new politics and the Democratic party now, thanks. That’s probably just me.
No, there’re two more out here in Nevada who feel the same. No way B.O., not even with Hillary on the ticket.
And if McCain picks Romney for the VP slot, we might as well vote for him anyway, because that will win here in Nevada.
I heard if you write in Hillary’s name it will automatically go toward the Democratic candidate.
It depends on the state. Some states will count the vote for Hillary. Others will give the vote to the Democratic nominee.
There is a website to right in Hillary, which will give you detailed information. Just google “Write in Hillary. That’s how I found it … or maybe someone else here has the link?
I changed to Indy yesterday to prevent that from happenning, and as protest, of course.
An Indy writing in for Hillary can’t go to the Dem nom can it? Even BO & the DNC can’t steal my vote as an Independent. Should have changed years ago.
Well actually, at least in my state, they don’t KNOW who votes WriteIn. So you could be a dem, a rep or an Idependent and they wouldn’ know. It’s a secret ballot. So you need to FIND OUT the rules of your state before doing this. Call your county board of elections and ask.
I called the Essex County (NJ) Clerk and was told that write ins are counted and recorded for the person that you write in. She also told me NJ is somewhat liberal if you spell the name wrong but the intent is obvious the vote will count. My concern was that I wasn’t sure if writing “Hillary Rodham Clinton” was the same as “Hillary Clinton”.
The Obamatrons can’t handle the truth. If they were so confident about their guy, they wouldn’t waste their time on us. They are all so busy trying to distract us from those inconvenient skeletons, that they have no clue what he stands for anymore, or who is pulling his strings.
Frankly, after the emotional roller coaster today, I have concluded that AP is as bad as the Orange Satan, only people actually READ AP stories. That little cheerleading squad of Pickler, Babbington, Fournier, Fouhy, and Espo, have been in the tank for Obama this entire time. If AP had actually assigned someone to Hillary’s campaign, you’d never know it. Then.. the ultimate was their calling the race today for Obama.. based on Obama’s claim that he had enough delegates (based on private meetings.) Show me the delegates mofo. Then, Ron Fournier of AP writes a nasty “analysis” of Hillary tonight, basically saying that she’s not conceded because she is still soliticting donations to pay her campaign debt, and is trying to leverage herself for a VP slot or convention role. He also described her followers as “Middle aged women” saw everything as a “sexist slight”. Yeah, Ron.. we “middle aged women” tend to feel slightly “slighted” when called hags, bitches, cunts, whores, and told that we need to die soon so we can make way for Obama and his supporters. We’re kind of oversensitive, I guess.
YOu know, everyone knew weeks ago that Obama had planned THIS DATE to declare himself the winner. It was discussed here many times, and there were articles written about it. He planned to do this today, regardless of where he was with the superdelegates. He just assumed he’d have enough public endorsements of the supers by today. The problem is he DOESN’T.
Must be nice to annoint yourself the King, based upon “secret meetings” with supers, who for SOME reason didn’t come out and endorse him yet. WTF?? We’ve been conned by Obama and the AP. Super delegate endorsements do NOT a nominee make. They cannot vote, per DNC rules, until the convention. HOward Dean’s rush to make them decide this week is in violation of the rules, but when has that ever stopped them if it suits their new coalition.
I never dreamt that the Democratic Party would screw over 18 million of their own voters this way, by allowing Obama to declare victory over someone with the popular vote. This feels just like when Bush did the same damn thing to Gore. It took Bush 8 years to destroy our Country, and it only took HOward Dean 4 to destroy our Party, congrats HOward, you win.
The Audacity of Arrogance.
As for AP, they were just trying to suppress S. Dakota voters due to barky’s bad numbers.
I read that MSNBC admitted the AP was getting its information re superdelegates from the Obama campaign, and not from actually contacting those superdelegates themselves.
Axelrod MANAGED the AP all day, to try and suppress the voters in SD & MT.
Even with that, Obama still lost South Dakota by 10 points, when 2-3 weeks ago, he was 8 points ahead.
Speaks volumes about Axelrod and the AP, doesn’t it?
And Daschle couldn’t even bring his own state to his candidate.
Hellooooooo NOvember.
I read that MSNBC admitted the AP was getting its information re superdelegates from the Obama campaign, and not from actually contacting those superdelegates themselves.
Axelrod MANAGED the AP all day, to try and suppress the voters in SD & MT.
Even with that, Obama still lost South Dakota by 10 points, when 2-3 weeks ago, he was 8 points ahead.
Speaks volumes about Axelrod and the AP, doesn’t it?
And Daschle couldn’t even bring his own state to his candidate.
Hellooooooo NOvember.
she didn’t win the popular vote, the delegate count or anything else. sorry. she did amazingly well, but if you care about country over Clinton, which it seems from many of these posts very few of you do, you would let it go. i can’t believe how conspiratorial you all are about all of this. i mean, are you trying to tell me that the DNC doesn’t love the Clintons & that she wasn’t the prohibitive favorite for years leading up to this? Sen. Clinton & Sen. Obama tore each other to pieces, to the delight of neo-con fundamentalists throughout the country. it MUST end sometime & sometime is now. none of this is in aid of anything.
this is not her last hurrah; she will be a MAJOR player in American politics for years to come, in whatever capacity. can she not run ever again? i don’t know who I will support (i will NEVER vote McCain!) but the majority of the rhetoric & vitrol i see one sites like this & from Clintonites in general is VERY scary. how meglomaniacal can she be? stop feeding the fevered egos & let’s worry about taking back our country, instead of spewing divise bile everywhere.
no one has won anything yet– do we still have neo-cons running ruckshaw in the executive branch? we do, so get over it & yourself & worry about re-instating the constitution more than poor Hillary. she will be fine & will continue to make an impact, but it needs to be a positive one for the COUNTRY & not for herself.
it is a historic time, but it can all go terribly wrong & then all the 35 million people who voted in these primaries will have done so for nothing. if you would rather vote McCain just because Hillary isn’t the DNC nominee, than you should be allowed to vote. that is dangerous crazy & will do nothing but damage this country. sorry.
& one more thing– any “news” or information you get from a CIA op–former or otherwise–should be taken with a grain of salt & a pound of suspicion. come on people. willfull ignorance is beneath all of us & is killing this country. let’s smarten up before it’s too late…
thanks for all the debate. now let’s put the kives down & take back our country together!
We have been conditioned to keep moving to the middle. With every win…we were promised that the progressive side of the party won.
I gave up acquiescing to the democratic party after 2006. The people overwhelmingly sent a message to Congress to get rid of this administration, yet they did NOTHING to stop the reign of terror that the republicans have unleashed.
From the start…the media has chosen our candidate.
They refused to talk about anyone.
First they propped up Hillary as being “inevitable”. Even though SHE never said she was “inevitable”…they used this against her in the end.
obama WILL be crushed by the skeletons in his and Michelle’s closet.
Me? I’ll stock up on popcorn and sit back and enjoy the show.
Maybe…just maybe this party will have learned it’s lesson.
If not, the only thing I can hope for is a third party to emerge from the ashes of what is left of this country.
For a former intelligence agent, you sure know little about psychology. The trolls are out in force because it’s fun getting a reaction from you losers.
So would the psychology behind that be a borderline personality disorder? That would seem to fit the Obama supporters to a tee.
Foo, I hope you remember what you said about losers when Obama loses. I’ll take my popcorn with real butter, Horse with No Name.
After seeing what happened this weekend, I’ve decided that if Hillary Clinton doesn’t get the Democratic nomination, I’m going to vote for “uncommitted.” I mean, Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, the RBC, the DNC - they all say that’s the same as voting for Obama, right? And who am I to argue with all those superior political intellects? So I say, in the same spirit of party unity and reconciliation, let’s give them what they asked for - record numbers voting for “uncommitted,” because I’m sure the Republicans will all say “Oh yeah, that means Obama. Sure, we’ll count that as a vote for him. No problem.”
Here in Michigan, write-in votes don’t count unless the write-in candidate is properly registered. Impromptu write-ins, like my many votes over the years for Mickey-Mouse, are thrown away.
Even so, for now, uncommitted has my vote.
On the other hand, by the time Obama has finished floundering and flip-flopping on foreign policy he’ll be to the right of John McCain.
So maybe I’ll vote for “Lefty” McCain.
Now THAT’S a good one! I like that and you’re right - according to the RBC’s twisted corrupt logic
The “Audasity of Obama Fear” …Great!
It took a couple weeks lag time for the BO telephone to make full circle…What a little red phone it is too.
Sorry about the multiple post a few back , got called a racist today for saying I would vote for McCain if Hillary wasn’t the nominee…
He’s are shittin twinkies and trolls…
Saving locally. Shit happens.
Sorry about the multiple post a few back , got called a racist today for saying I would vote for McCain if Hillary wasn’t the nominee…
it doesn’t make you racist. it makes you ignorant. look at mccain’s record before you go doing something foolish. or don’t vote– better than voting out of willfull ignorance & hyperbolic nonsense.
I have yet to understand how Obama would be worse than McCain.
McCain has vowed to continue the war on the people of Iraq indefinitely, for one thing, and McCain will get to pick another far-right extremist for the Supreme Court which will finally overturn all law since the 1400s.
Certainly Obama wouldn’t be that bad?
I was called a racist as well, but then I mentioned that I’d voted for Jesse Jackson. That shut them up.
First ever primary vote I made was for JJ. I voted Republican that election, but thought he deserved support just for getting more people involved.
I voted for Jesse Jackson in ‘88. I voted for Tom Bradley more than once. I even voted for Obama in the California primary — a vote I now dearly regret. And there is a very good chance that I will vote for Cynthia McKinney in November.
But nothing shuts up the Obots. They have redefined the word “racism” to mean anyone who does not support their Messiah.
You say you voted for Jackson? Doesn’t matter. To an Obot, you’re still a racist, and all of your protestations to the contrary are simply manifestations of your art and craftfulness.
Yes, why have the trolls been so agitated these last few days?? Aren’t they claiming to have won tonight? (Of course, we could ask the good people of South Dakota who won tonight.) Shouldn’t the trolls be congregating in their little troll corners?
Perhaps they feel insecure. Beginning tonight, I am dedicating myself to the serious study of trolls. I used to have one with long pink hair. That was in 1970. Do they look any different nowadays? Have they taken to wearing clothes? Is their genitalia still ambiguous?
They still look the same except they wear their shirts untucked, are a little more overweight (they have man boobs), and their moms still have to cut the crusts off their PB&J’s.
what is wrong with you people?!! “i voted for jesse jackson.” who cares? why don’t you self-congratulate a bit more?
i sure don’t see much SUBSTANCE here about why you are all so fervant about Hillary. I’m not detracting from her at all, but the cultishness that’s developed on both sides seems unhealty & totally detremental to the root cause we should have, which should be getting our great country back from neo-con war criminals & christian fundamentalists.
if you are so fervant about Hillary, why would you vote for the exact opposite platform & help to perpetuate our current sickness in the executive? where is the constructiveness here? where is recognition that, despite the contentious primary season, it’s a pre-season & the real game is about to start? it just makes no sense. i’m not committed, but i would be horrified to think that Hillary would encourage anyone to vote GOP over a rock, much less Barack.
calm down & try to see the forest. it’s hard because the GOP has been systematically burning it down for seven years & it has to STOP! i love this country & i want our Constitution back. why don’t you? do you think she’s going to endorse McCain? she’s not Lieberman, after all.
please try to be less fundamentalist in your rhetoric & viewpoint– fundamentalism has severely damaged this country from the inside out & is the root for most if not all terror actions worldwide. evolve you ideas, folks.
Votes cast, per ABC News:
Hillary Clinton 17,784,437
Barack Obama 17,479,386
WOW
we all knew that –hillary is the real winner .
I will not vote for Obama even Hillary’s name is on the ticket. He doesn’t deserve my vote. I stand for principle here.
So Obamamoths, please use your time somewhere else. We’re not defectors.
Have any of you people who have observed politics closely over the past twenty or twenty-five years seen comparable campaign forward planning /logistics. If so, whose?
Anybody seen the ability to compel support - toeing the party line before? If so when, where, by whom?
same questions about the ability to eploit an opponents strengths AND weaknesses.
ditto preparation and contingency planning.
I’ve been doing this for a l-o-n-g time and have never seen anything like this. The press, which usually does a great job of vetting the candidates, has looked at Obama and decided to ignore his faults and try to lessen the fallout if anything comes out about him. They have become so enamored with having a black president they have made the conscious decision to attack any and all other candidates of any party with both blatant lies and innuendo. Disgusting! It reminds me of the last “elections” in Russia, Venezuela and Iran. You limit the number of candidates and then restrict the press from saying anything good about the candidate they want to lose.
Compliant press, strong arming (of support AND opposition), ratfucking, all bases covered, don’t remind you of 2000 and 2004?
I think there is only one person who can coordinate an operation like that, that smoothly, on a national scale. It required too much help from the Republicans.**
No way to know what goes on the curtain - if the DNC is some sort of Potemkin organization (as in National Combine) or if it has been duped or suborned. Doesn’t matter. They have rolled out Br’er Fox’s Obamababy.
Bring on the Permanent Majority and put the billions maintaining the charade of a two-party system into infrastructure.
** Hastert and the Party clear the way to advance Obama into play by running Keyes in 2004 (these people don’t neglect senate seats). Florida and Michigan legislatures move the primaries.
Obamanation sure isn’t acting like their candidate won.
They reek of fear and desperation.
Larry, you are batshit fucking insane. Get some fucking help.
I actually once defended you and Susan Hu after you were both declared “enemies of the state” at Daily Obama. Man, did I get burned on that!
I certainly hope the Wilsons have dumped your crazy fucking ass. Scrub this comment as you do all the others that point out what a fucking lunatic you have become. Everyone fucking knows it, and knows you and Susan are pathetic jokes.
Thanks Dave. Knowing we had a stand up guy like you in our corner gave us courage. And I’ll be sure to pass on your best wishes to Joe and Val. Since Joe faced down Saddamn Hussein I am sure he will easily appreciate your personality type.
It’s hard to get the big picture when you have such a small screen.
Hmmm… everyone? Except me I guess. Oh, and the thousands of people who come here everyday.
And you’re supporting an under qualified, racist candidate…. yet you throw stones?
You’re like a bomb that won’t quite exploding.
If you’re recruiting for Obama and trying to create “unity,” Dave, you really SUCK.
Imagine how many votes you just cost Obama with your profanity-laced obnoxious post.
You and Keith Olberman drive voters AWAY from Obama, darlin.
Just trying to understand.
You people will not vote for someone who is on the same side as yours?
More, you’ll actually vote for the other side???
America is a weird country!
No, not America, every people are weird. In mine, people voted for a bling bling president that they hate for years.
I think that medias did the trick. World will sink for sure.
Are you one of Axelrod’s outsourced trolls?
Obama isn’t on my side.
The only side he’s on is his own.
Anyone who believes that Obama is on the same side as blue collar workers, senior citizens, middle aged females, Floridians, etc.; must not have been paying attention to his (and his supporters) comments and actions over the past year. This guy has shown no friendly disposition toward ‘these’ Democrats!
No real Democrat disenfranchises voters for any reason. Period. We fought for voting rights.
So Larry, are you going to stay up all night zapping comments?
I’d love to hear what “Joe and Val” have to say about you. How about getting one of them to send in a statement?
Dave, you have no idea what’s coming for your candidate, do you?
I’m just going to sit back and pop some corn. This will be a delight.
…you have no idea what’s coming for your candidate, do you?
Well, he’s not exactly “my” candidate… but if you mean the mysterious video, the Raelians apparantly aren’t scheduled to deliver it from the mothership until November now…
They have one too???
BTW Dave, thanks for being so predictable with your comments. You can tell Obama supporters by the number of profanities they use against men and sexually degrading comments they use with women. How they think this is a sign of being a ‘real man’ is way beyond my comprehension.
If you had an argument that really showed an ounce of intelligence, you wouldn’t need the profanity. Maybe you should go ‘back to the drawing board’. HMMM?
You can tell Obama supporters by the number of profanities they use against men and sexually degrading comments they use with women.
really? where can i find evidence of this? examples please? let me guess, out of vigor & ignorance, you made a statment you wish you could somehow substantiate, but is actually representative of your limited opinion.
i’m not backing this dave guy, not backing anyone, but it’s this sick psychology that is sure to keep our country sub-average at best for the foreseeable future. SUBSTANCE PLEASE!
…thanks for being so predictable with your comments.
Well, it’s late….
You can tell Obama supporters by–
Oh, I know several other sites where they would have a bit of a disagreement about that!
If you had an argument that really showed an ounce of intelligence, you wouldn’t need the profanity.
Whatever you fucking say…
Stupidity does not qualify as a handicap, park elsewhere!
HARP: ROTFL You need to trademark this before someone else does.
Obamacult members: Didn’t you hear the good news from your master? By the divine grace of God, he has crowned himself king of the world. So, no need to come here to try to “unify” us, right?
Another Louis XVI in the making…Time to enjoy the brewing revolution!
EEEW, right on queue! And, soooo, predictable. LOL
I’m not American, i must precise.
I believe that know that this election is followed every day in many countries and that BO is well represented.
I know that i should worry only about my country, but fact is US is the most important country in the world actually, and due to the impopularity of Mr Bush outside of US, and the importance of your policies over the world, it’s important to other countries to follow your election.
As a french guy, i thought that US where pretty advanced to propose a black president for election regarding that 40 years ago there were segregation in US.
And now, i try to understand only the side of pro-hilary’s who come to say that he is racist. We know some of his past as well (quite minified in national news but there is internet now).
In every ways, i still can’t understand how pro-Hilary’s can prefer Mc Cain over BO.
saw today that bardot was convicted of a crime in france because she said something about muslims that wasn’t considered ok. didn’t get the details. but being guilty of a crime for SAYING something against someone is not exactly the kind of country i want to live in. sadly, sounds like the kind of thing obama would go for - witness the current atmosphere of suppression of dissent.
and this is only one of the thousands of reasons we prefer mccain over obama.
Lossy you are joking, right?
Methinks you’re one of those Palestinian bloggers to ask that question.
Maybe that could be one of the reasons we don’t want him, too many people from terrorists endorsing him?
He is not qualified, he is a lier, he did not win the popular vote, he has no experience has so ever, he associate with bunch of Chicago thugs, he can not read unless there is is teleprompter, he is extremley sexist and arrogant, has no idea how the working people live. By the way he has problem with women voters, spanics, “whitii” blue color workers,etc. it hese enough reason why I won’t vote for him???
He is not qualified, he is a lier, he did not win the popular vote, he has no experience has so ever, he associate with bunch of Chicago thugs, he can not read unless there is a teleprompter, he is extremley sexist and arrogant, has no idea how the working people live. By the way he has problem with women voters, spanics, “whitii” blue color workers,etc. Is these enough reason why I won’t vote for him???
If I voted strictly on policy, you’d be right. He should get my vote.
McCain does NOT represent me in the least. I DO think his campaign rhetoric won’t be reflected in his actual decisions. He’s honestly very moderate and works well with Democrats. However, you are correct. His health care plan sucks.
Here’s my own thinking. Obama will never get healthcare through. He’s stupid about it. It won’t fly. So why worry.
Obama isn’t going to get much done at all, in fact. He’ll travel around the world giving dignitaries a chance to take a photo with him. That’s about it.
So if Hillary isn’t the candidate, we’re looking at stalemate in terms of real change, anyway. Her tenacity is exactly why Washington is scared of her. When she says, “Change.” She means it. They know it. And she gets the will of people behind her idea. He just has created a fan club. That’s superficial, really.
The reason I’d vote for McCain is because the process of this year has revealed a very ugly underside to my party. It’s unfair. I’m a Democrat precisely because I’ve seen the value of even-handed treatment for all of us. I do NOT see the value of political trickery. This year, they have shown their colors, and it’s all about the tricks.
They really do think we’re stupid.
I’ve watched these emerging Hillary supporters, fascinated by just how NOT stupid they are. A bit emotional at times, yes. But they are the type to read the dang rules before commenting. They do their footwork. They aren’t shooting from the hip.
So the Party leaders underestimates them.
We know why we’re turning down the DNC nominee. And we’re right on this one.
I said from Day 1, the AA community should be smart here and vet this guy. You only get one first kiss.
They didn’t do it. Too bad. Obama is going to be a bad story for them for a long time.
because McCain has enough respect for all americans to not steal votes…
A CNN investigative report on Obama’s first campaign:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
Obama has years of practice stealing votes, sabotaging democracy…
Watch this video and see how Obama kicked a well respected civil rights leader off the ballot to make sure he was the only candidate in his first run for office…
Yes, we need change! We need politics as usual vote stealers out of the white house…
we need change!
Every vote is going to count this time!
Try and stop us Obama!
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Try and stop us Obama!
Because you would rather…
Keep the tax cuts for the rich;
Keep the illegal war going in Iraq;
Neglect the true bad guys in Afhanistan and Pakistan.
For this, you would vote for a Republican?
I’m dumbfounded at your hate.
Not popping the champagne with your buds on the pro-Marxist blogs? Or too young to drink? Scamper off! There’s a good lad.
You’re dumbfounded, that’s for sure.
Hate, well that’s just more Obamatroll name calling. Typical.
You guys have no idea how you are coming off, do you?
Shouldn’t you be at a Kool Aid party somewhere?
Yet you are here being a pest, which screams volumes about you. And how you feel about your poor choice.
I’m voting for McCain because he’s qualified to be president, and Obama isn’t. Pretty simple. Read it slowly a few times, maybe then it will sink in.
How Mc Cain can bring change to America?
No, to the world?
Americans are the leader, so, in my opinion they “must” deliver a message, a road for the future.
How Mr Mc cain that everybody know that he is pro-war, pro-weapons, conservative, want to outpass the ONU decision, make the US “win”, lead the jude-christian nations… can lead peacefully the world by bringing new ideas?
Pretty different from Hilary’s ideas.
Way to different from the world idea’s.
And, in regards of the political views, dangerous in too many ways!
So, how people who support the great people-oriented ideas of Hilary Clinton, can support Mr Mc Cain?
Support McCain?
No.
Vote for him as the lesser of two evils?
That’s possible.
I am not voting for McCain I am voting against Obama.
lossy:
It’s simple really. Obama is a criminal. He helped rig boards in Illinois that decided where grants would go for his friends Antoin Rezko, the Corrupt Gov Blagojevich, and America’s most corrupt Mayor Daley. Do a simple search on Operation Board Games, and read and you will quickly realize there is more evidence on this guy than they had on Al Capone! For someone with a Harvard education, Obama sure must be a dumb ass to do that real estate deal with Rezko AFTER Rezko was indicted! Od’s are Mr Obama will be in court on his way to jail before the GE. How’s that for guaranteeing the Republicans a win?
@Sadenned
This assumption is false. Mrs Bardot was not condamned at all. She was not condamned at all in fact ^^.
Furthermore, we NEVER condamn people for words, but only for IDEA’s.
Those who are being said only to fill the society with false ussumption. distilling hate between people…
By the way, i totally agreed with your opinion in one way. France under Mr Sarkozy is losing what made it the “Nation of human rights”. That’s a shame!
you say you don’t condemn people for words, but only for ideas. condemning people for ideas is just as repressive. bardot was convicted. for words. for ideas. repression of dissenting views is not what we stand for here. it is, however, consistent with obama’s beliefs. which is why we will never support him.
Even though i know you will probably never change your point of view, i still try to understand! ^^
Mr Mc Cain as a vision of the world where the US decision is more important than any others. There is no discussion. There are only those who agreed with his ideas.
If it was good idea’s, well, why not, unfortunately he believe in war, weapons, whiwh only lead to death for innocent people but the real culprit…
Further more, it will only give a reason for extremist to be against the “occidental sinners”.
And i must insist, Mrs Brigitte Bardot was not condamned for her words.
Insult people because they don’t share your point of view must not be allowed.
When Mrs Bardot insult all the muslims, the extremist branch take her words and try to pull the good muslims to a bad way. Then they do the same as us, which lead us to do the same as them which lead to war which lead to? … death!
Nothing more, nothing less.
you say that bardot was not condemned for her words, then you say that insulting people because they don’t share your point of view must not be allowed. i am too tired at this late hour to explain this any further, but - despite your denials - you repeatedly say, in different words, that her expression of her views was the problem and that expression of “insults” isn’t allowed.
we call that freedom of expression. freedom of expression includes the freedom to insult others, not just the freedom to say things they enjoy hearing. freedom of expression is incorporated in the first amendment to our constitution and is arguably the most sacrosanct of the principles of democracy.
Europe is under attack by political Islam. Islam has played the victim card quite expertly, waging political jihad. With immigration and high birth rates, along with dhimmis in government and media, Europe is well on its way to submitting to Islam. Let us know how that whole inclusive, politically correct thing works out for France and Europe… when your great grandchildren are prostrating themselves toward Mecca for evening prayer.
Obama is sympathetic to political Islam, like his cousin Odinga in Kenya. Of course, this is only one of many reasons why Hussein is not fit to be President of the U.S. and Commander in Chief.
I must try to make myself more clear.
You can have ideas, even bad ideas.
But trying to bring hate over a community by making false statement is not bringing new ideas.
It’s only bring HATE over PEOPLE with false statement. That is condamnable.
She told about an entire community without restrictions, not thinking about those who were friendly to moderate, and furthermore make a well propaganda weapon for those who as the same ideas as her but are in the opposite side.
i realize there is a language barrier, but this post is not sufficiently clear for me to respond. i believe you are saying that bardot inappropriately characterized an entire group, when only some in that group should have been characterized in that way, and thereby fostered an environment that could be used negatively. again, absent some sort of libel, which you have not adequately described, one is free in this country to criticize others. for example, the obama supporters call hillary’s supporters all sorts of vile names. they are free to do so, despite the lack of basic manners and decency revealed in many of their slurs. permitting free expression even to those who foul the air is simply part of the price of freedom.
the hour is late, so i bid you good night.
In our time and ages, we must keep in view that the muslim has not yet made change to their religion in order to let it evolve with the world as it is today.
Christian and jude as done this change with blood.
Regarding this experience, should we let the old religion make is way with blood like us, or should we just send them a real message of “hope”: “We do not share your point of view in many way, we don’t really know how you work, and, it seems that it is the same for you. In fact, since in all society there intelligent people, we believe that they can make a difference. So let them exchange ideas with ours and try to make a better world where we can try to live together with respect”.
It’s a far too long subject to discuss it in a blog commentary, and it’s almost lunchtime here ^^.
Have a good night too.
@Podvet
That don’t explain how can people who support Hilary Clinton, can vote for Mr Mc Cain.
That’s really the only big fact that i really can’t undestand at all!
Here it is in a nutshell for you lousey: Two names on a ballot … McCain, Obama (that’s in alphabetical order so you don’t misunderstand it). You get to vote for one. Voting is an expression of your preference. You prefer McCain and you vote McCain.
Does that make sense to you now?
@myiq2xu
As a matter of fact, Mc Cain is a lot more scary regarding is international policies.
Or, you don’t believe that US as a responsability on the worlds decision, but must not impose is point of view.
Bypassing international views is pretty agressive for other country.
It only lead to war. But only for the people. Leaders die later…
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
All I ask for is the truth and the details — I do not blindly follow.
Pro-Hillary site, indeed appreciated……and BO just is not qualified. Plus, dirty.
Well, somebody’s got to save this country, the media abdicated that the instant they saw his long, hard airplane.
I totally agree!
Hillary stole Obama’s thunder last night by not caving in to the pressure to concede. Did Obama really expect her to concede with all that is at stake and the fact she won the popular vote? As we know Obama is a bad judge of character by the company he keeps so it should be no surprise he misread Hillary’s amazing character!
The Obama campaign and the trolls need to wake up. The nominee is not selected until the end of August.
Make sure everyone lets Hillary know we want her to fight this all the way to Denver! We don’t want her to be the VP and we won’t vote for any Democratic ticket where Obama is on it. Hillary must be our next president!
All but the stupidest Obamites are vaguely aware by now that their candidate is a fraud. That explains their bad behavrior.
How could anyone vote for Obama with all his unanswered questions and baggage?
I say Hillary go Indy!
Hmmmm. I wonder if Hillary wrote a book about the campaign..when it could be released….
Hmmmm..now I’m also beginning to wonder about the superdelegates that the Obambi camp say committed to him…have their names been released, and did the press follow up to make sure that they did indeed commit to Obambi..or was this just a hoax (that is, the total number of delegates commited to Obambi?)
lossy I understand your questioning, and the best way I can answer you is through analogy. We are really limited to 2 candidates so if it is McCain vs Obama, we are forced to choose the lesser of 2 evils. McCain is a true American and while I differ with some of his ideas, I respect his intentions for the most part. He is not a far right maniac, more towards the middle, and while I agree he is a bit too pro “victory” right now, I think a large part of that is to appeal to his party. Obama is a straight up unacceptable with no history except criminals, racists and radicals as friends.
In comparison I’d have to use Philippe de Villiers in McCains role, some questionable past relations and ideas…
and for Obama Jacques Chirac with a history of corruption he used his presidency for immunity from it is nearly mind boggling.
We don’t want a Chirac type like Obama in the White House.
I hope that analogy was good enough as I am not an expert on French politics, but a bit of google pointed me to those 2 as the best comparisons.
First, thank you to Larry for this site and hard work, and also to those behind the scenes that work to keep this blog going.
Second, I will never vote for Obama. He is going to lose and will do so with the help of us Hillary supporters. He trashed Hillary and stole her votes, well guess what you freakin disgusting thug, I’m not your SWEETIE and you’ll never get my vote!
Larry et al… you’ll always have MY vote… love the site and all you do for us… a sincere “Thank You” ~
The media still seems to think we’re living in 1960, when they could cover up the truth about JFK’s medical history and private life.
The Obamas’ true character–whatever it is–is going to be revealed, regardless of what they think at AP and MSNBC.
Clueless wonders.
Good Morning All,
I just wanted to tell all Hillary Clinton Supporter’s to come and join us in our fight to make sure Obama is not elected in November!! The link is in the second paragraph!! Send this link to every Clinton supporter you know. Send this to every newspaper, radio station and TV station in your State “Would you please announce our web sight on your shows”??
We started this web site late Saturday night after the RBC meeting and we are trying to get it connected to the other Hillary Supporter’s web sites we have. We have over 310,888 hits and most are already there with us.
This message is for all Hillary Clinton Supporter’s, not only Democrat’s, but Independent’s and Republican’s that voted for her in the Primary’s to come and join us. If Barack Obama is and remains the Democratic nominee after the Convention in August, we will then work to make sure John McCain is the next President of the United States of America. What the DNC has done to the people of America and their voice is unforgivable and they made sure the election of a candidate of THEIR choice was chosen in a “fixed” election. We will not only vote for John McCain, we will vote a straight Republican ballot to make sure the DNC are the biggest loser’s of all time. The web site is http://www.hcsfjm.com/ . This web site has as many male members as there are women and we are all race’s and nationality’s.
This message is for the DNC and especially Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi. You may have Party unity with the elected officials when the General Election voting starts on November 4th, but you will not have voter unity. Senator Obama can rest assured that the only people he will be connecting with is the same people that voted for him in the Primary’s. He will never be able to connect with us, for we know who and what he is as we have researched him very thoroughly. He should not and will not be OUR President if we can prevent it!
Thank you,
Evelyn Adams
Not until she concedes
Evelyn - I just joined HCSFJM. I’ll be proud to vote for McCain! I’d be even happier if Hillary is his VP pick, but I’m afraid that’s likely not in the cards.
HEY! I finally got on! I’m so sorry about those damn Roaches Larry! But, I suspect you knew they were going to come after you after you rattled their cage with the tape story!
You keep it up Larry. You got them all in a lather!
And….
Unlike “DAVE”, I WILL stand beside you no matter what! Keep up the pressure Brother, We can not allow OBlama to become POTUS!
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Mmm, can’t hang with this. We need a Dem-controlled Congress still, and there are some good decent ones who still deserve our support. This is the reason I won’t change my party affiliation, so I can till vote “D” downticket and in primaries. But for president, your party affiliation doesn’t matter00you can choose any candidate. I choose McCranky.
Back to the topic…..I’m personally ready to see you implement the registration process. I’ve noted that Talk Left’s policy of 10 posts for new registrants is working to knock down the troll effect.
You can’t possibly keep up with the troll factor. The rest of us can’t get on to comment often.
Hope you guys get this set up sooner than later.
Actually, I don’t think some of these bloggers are all obamabots. I believe some of them are republicans trying to instigate fights between Hillary and Obama voters. That said, I don’t give a rat’s ass. I’m not voting for Obama on any ticket. Hopefully Hillary will go on to fight at the convention. If not, then vote McCain. At least McCain loves his country and doesn’t hang out with thugs and terrorists. I hear asshole Pelosi is preparing a tart letter to Hillary to demand she end her campaign. What nerve that bitch has. When is she coming up for re-election?
Unbelievable what this arrogant man has done last night. He claimed himself the nominee in front of his “Michael Moore look=alike and mind set” supporters on national TV.
Unbelievable. His speech was about how Hillary is going to help with medical insurance, energy policy and more..unbelievably arrogant..this man does not have the support he claims. No way. He skewed perception. He played the numbers. His double voters and dead votes also helped skew his support.
He is not the nominee.
Unbelievable how he changed the rule in the middle of the game.
Even with stolen Mi and Fl delegates he can’t wrap this up..He is mentally ill.
This needs to go to the convention as it normally would if this awful man was not in the race pretending he has this wrapped up.
Hillary cleaned his clock in South Dakota.
I contributed to Hillary campaign last night again.
Contribute and make your statement.
This is not over.
We are tired but we need to press on.
The alternative is McCain and we will suffer 4 years of that. So a couple more months is no biggie.
It’s time to stop this man from his cheating.
Stop Obama.
He is not the nominee.
And the troll posers here are from around the world and not Americans. They support Obama and they skew perception too just for perverse fun. Ever wonder why they have little understanding of the laws and election process? It’s because they are Canadians and from every other country..
Do not feed the trolls.
The American youth are for Hillary. You’ll see them in her rallies.
His skewing perception is a sneak peek of what’s to come if he ever gets to be president..God Forbid.
Unbelievably arrogant is what this man is.
What part of NO doesn’t he understand? Millions of Americans are against him. Many are not bloggers and are very angry. They are from across America. They are not part of any campaign but they are pissed at this election heister. They also will vote McCain and they are not kidding. No one wants this man as president..no one agrees with his unknown policies.
He has adopted Hillary’s stump speech and policies as his own.
He deosn’t intend to do anything for America. He doesn’t know how to.
and Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have the authority to rewrite election rules of going to the convention.
She has her constiuents very mad and ready to vote her out.
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Now the french are terrorists as well? Pathetic. Still wishing I could meet people like you in real life so I could see stupid in real life. Left my contact info on another diary here. Still waiting.
Clinton initially agreed to not count votes out of Michigan and Florida and only changed her mind when she fell behind, you know.
The committees in those states broke the rules, knowing the consequences. If anyone acted to deny votes, it’s them, not the nominees.
JP…..someone is going up against her. I read a story. I have no idea if her opponent is good or not. But it’s the first time Pelosi has been really challenged.
I agree with you totally. Pelosi is a power-hungry loser, and we need to boot her out.
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