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Obama, support him? Is that the question of the day?

Want my answer…………NO WAY IN HELL! Want the job done right VOTE HILLARY!

Hillary or McCain 08

Okay so,

I was an Obama supporter, but I have been visiting this site for a couple of days now and I think I am coming around. There are a few things that have helped me see the light.

1)The existence of the damning tape. It is so obvious that this is real and not some kind of “sore loser” smear campaign. The fact that nobody has actually seen the tape just adds to its magic and mysticism.

2) I have also been persuaded by all of the happy positive Hillary supporters I have met on these comment forums. You seem like a very positive bunch of folk who would rather tout the great qualities of Hillary (my new candidate) then spend all day making up terrible mean spirited things to say about that other guy (I won’t even say his name because he is so evil).

3)I am into the whole whining and crying over my losses scene. I think people who say “man Up” or “grow a set of balls” are mysogynists. I believe I have every right to weep and throw a tantrum and I even bet Hillary is behaving the same way right now. I think my new friends on this board do a great job at showing that you don’t have to be tough or logical to win a campaign. We will take this thing to the heart of America and then to the whitehouse based solely on emotion. Then who will have the last laugh Mr. Obama/Jerk?

4)I really like that guy in the upper right hand corner’s haircut. Whenever I visit this page I think “where would you get a haircut like that?”

5)Most of all though the think that has brought me to my senses is this awesome video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefSpWGD19k

You know it is the “Hillary 4 You and Me” one. Man that ROX MY SOX! I ripped that thing to my ipod. I really believe it shows the true nature of Hillary supporters (of which I now consider myself). Anyone who says this video is Gay is definitely a homophobe or a racist or both and has probably never even been in a Gay club EVAH!

So come on new friends! Lets take the whitehouse back for anti-abortion-war mongering-private healthcare lobbyist supporting republicans.

And just to show you I am serious I came up with a clever name for Obama: Ostinka!

Ostinka is a big jerk!

Clinton/Mccain 08

I am a proud member of the PUMA Party. I do not know if I can ever go so far as to vote for a Republican but I do know that I cannot and will not vote for Obama. The Democratic Party I supported for over 40 years is no more. Perhaps it never was.

If you believe that Obama and the DNC as well as the Democratic Party Leadership with the overwhelming dishonesty of the media has gamed this primary from start to finish and then vote for Obama you are in effect saying that you will reward bad behavior.

Even the good Obama supporters, and I assume there must be a few here and there although I haven’t met any, should be appalled at what happened to MI and FL and most especially at the stealing of 4 Clinton delegates and giving them to Obama.

After all the talk of the “rulz” the Demcratic RBC “fulz” broke the rules right there on national teevee in front of God and everybody.(Of course your pinheaded media pundits are too stupid or too currupt or both to point that out to the public they are supporsed to inform.)

God help Democracy because the Democratic Party and the media sure as hell won’t.

The official name is People United Means Action.

Join PUMA. Keep fighting.

“A Party Held HOSTAGE: Michele Obama Wasn’t Alone in Her Hostility at the Rainbow/PUSH Conference in 2004–Protests Against Jesse Jackson, Threats Against Democrats/Kerry By Ministers in an Eerie Preview of the Rev. Wright Episode”

http://tinyurl.com/4jealx

PLEASE READ this whole piece!
We are in big trouble…find out why this Obama enabling is all about APPEASEMENT by the Democratic Party.

What I have found out is really disturbing!

Have women been thrown over out of a move to appease blacks? And these blacks aren’t even real Democrats??

I’m with you guys. Count me in.

I am mystified at the arrogance of the ObamBam crowd!

Do they really believe that those of us that are angered at the way we have been Ridiculed, Taunted, Bullied, Spit on, Shit on, Harrassed, Ignored, Dismissed and Tossed aside by not only The DNC but by those Infantile Trolls that serve the Cult of Obama, will all come together and make nice?

The arrogance of this is stunning! The wounds are deep! The scars will never heal with some. The damage is done!

I had hoped that there was some way that “something” would derail this so-called movement. I had hoped that the party would come to their senses. I was wrong.
I know that some “TROLLS” will say I am bitter. No I am beyond bitter. I am angry!
I am angry that I have to step aside so that the powers that be can attempt to wipe away whatever guilt they have and RAM this Idiot down our Throats!
I am angry that I have to hear his code words about, “This Being Our Time”. I was not borne yesterday. I know what he means when he says that. This is affirmative action run amoke!
Call me racist all you want. I know what I am and a racist i am not. A realist I am. I fear we will “ALL” regret this day.
Obama and his crowd have set out to use his race from the very begining and now we are seeing the fruits of his labour. Either you vote for him or you are tarred with the label of being a bigot!

If his crowd believes we will all come together this November, they are fatally mistaken.

You are the spoiled child who, when told they have to share their toy, decides to break it instead.

You are the person who sees being seen as ‘right’ as more important than being right.

You are the person who revels in doing damage, since you yourself are damaged.

Trapped in an echo chamber of your own making.

No longer will I support the Democratic Party! I will join each and every group to defeat Obama. The arrogance of Oblahblah and the DNC sickens me. Fall in line and support him?
No way, I’m stuck in line buying Arugula! And only have time to cast my vote Against this fraud.

Hillary/McCain

I have really had it with the Obamabots. I turn on Air America this morning (because there isn’t much else in terms of talk radio here) and the show’s host and callers are lecturing “these women” who voted for Hillary about how a.) if you don’t vote for Obama, you’ll lose your reproductive rights and b.) if McCain wins, your children will be drafted into war. I am sick of the threats and blackmail, and the fact that the threats are directed solely at “women” — as if only women or a certain subset of women are the only people who could conceivably feel this way — only makes it that much more disgusting. Plus, I think they are starting to believe in their own creation: this cartoon image of McCain that is increasingly distant from how most people see him.

I’d be more inclined to write-in or vote third party on principle, but if the purpose is to teach these wayward “progressives” a lesson and make sure Obama loses, and prevent such an inexperienced and unqualified candidate out of the White House, then voting for McCain would be the most direct way. I’m still not sure, but I’m leaning heavily in that direction. McCain would be smart to tack to the center and promise to tackle climate change, have a smart energy policy and appoint neutral O’Connor-like justices.

You would actually vote for John McCain??? You people have gone completely over the edge. Sit back. Take a few deep breaths. And keep in mind that a lot of Republicans—for wildly divergent reasons—don’t even want McCain in the White House. Unbelievable. You think Hillary wants McCain in the White House? Think, people. Think back to before you decided Obama was the biggest threat to . . . whatever. Think about the two parties’ platforms, views, ideals. McCain is the default candidate from a weak and crazy field of Republicans. You can’t possibly be serious.

I will never vote for Obama. NEVER.
I want Hillary to fight all the way to the Denver.
All the talking heads, who force fed us Obama until we puked, now want unity. Forget it. Hillary has been trashed and bashed by media, newspapers,etc. I’m sick of them all. Unless Hillary gets the nomination i’m voting for McCain and I hope the hell he beats Obama.

Oh, sooo clever! Whew, I mean, at first I was like, “whoa! a Hillary supporter,” but then I was all like, “hahaha, this guy’s PRETENDING to be a Hillary supporter and saying absurd things to minimize and deflect from the fact that Obama can’t unite the party!” He fooled me!

Wow man, I’ve NEVER seen that before! You’re super dee duper clever and original! Must have graduated from when of them fancy I-V league schools!

Here we go….Trolls gone wild again.

I realize ALL politicians have flaws. I realize that ALL politicians will do and say anything to get elected. I support my candidate with both eyes open.
What “WE” are angry about, isnt the fact that he won…th efix was in after Iowa, what sticks in the craw of most of us is the fact that there was no “VETTING” of your “Savior”. Do the Math. After the shit about Rev. Wright, Rezco, Pfleger, he only won 2 out of the last 7 Primarys. He had to be helped across the finish line by so called “Super Delegates”!
He would “NEVER” have made it past Iowa had the media done it’s job! Now I know you will say, “Hillary has Baggage”! Sure she did, but he baggage IS known! You still don’t know all there is to know about Barky! Shit, you can’t even give me a single thing he has done since coming to the Senate that is of worth! He sure didnt do a damn thing here in Illinois!
So please…take your snarky ass, infantile remarks to a place where someone gives a damn….We sure as hell don’t! No one here has drank the Kool-Aid and we sure as hell KNOW who Barack Obama is!
Good luck In Novemeber…you sure as shit will need it. It’s a general election not a primary!

The very fact that the most vile elements of the Republican party “don’t want” John McCain is precisely why I’m OK with him.

Obama is to the Democrats what Huckabee is to the Republicans.

WORK for your f*cking vote. The days of supporting any *sshat with a (d) next to their name is OVER.

Deal with it now, or be shocked in November and threatening to move to Canada to get away from all the “idiot racist Americans.”

Bravo!!!

This is affirmative action run amoke!
Call me racist all you want. I know what I am and a racist i am not.

Are you even listening to yourself? As if there’s some large policy machine recruiting from the underserved for presidential candidates? Please explain—because I don’t get it—your reasons for being so anti Obama.

I’ll wait.

Yeah, for real ya know? I mean, if they were so confident that Obama would win they wouldn’t be here, right?

If they were so confident Obama could “unite the party, the nation, the world, and FINALLY, THE UNIVERSE” then they’d be doing whatever it is Obama’s coalition does all day.

The sounds of War grow near!

“In peace there’s nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility;
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood.”

William Shakespeare, “King Henry V”, Act 3 scene 1

End the Obamanation!

LOL, you all crack me up!

Are you all really democrats? Do you know what a Mcain presidency would mean for women’s rights, union rights and the rights of teachers to teach? Do you know what it’ll mean for minority rights? Do you know what it’ll mean for our prestige around the world?

And most important of all, do you know what it means for healthcare?

Yes, we had a bitter primary season, but do not forget why you are a democrat and not a republican. Hilary Clinton is a great woman and I am proud that is a leader in my party. Vote for Obama, if not, enable Mcain and be happy that you’ll get more the last right years.

Peace.

I LIVE in His SENATE DISTRICT FOOL! I KNOW what he has nad hasnt done. I didnt come to this yesterday! I AM a Democratic Committee Man here in ILLINOIS! I have been to dinners with this man. I have asked him for help in my district. I got SHIT!
I have been watching him since 1999, I have seen the devastation in the GHETTO he represents! Where was he when they needed him with RENT reform? where was he when those elderly folks died from Cold and from the HEAT? where was he when his wife’s hospital OVERCHARGED the poor? You tell me! where the FUCK was he? He claims to have done all this good…..I don’t know anyone in Chicago besides his Bundlers that say this shit! He has done FUCK for us here!
Don’t lecture me on Obama! I had to BEG that assholes office to look into helping his “PEOPLE” and he did SHIT!

I received an email from the Clinton campaign this morning about supporting Obama. I immediately unsubscribed. If she gives him her mailing list, I don’t want to start getting emails from his crowd.
The President of BET Entertainment was on Fox this morning talking about how the Congressional Black Caucus is trying to talk Obama into making Hillary his VP, because Obama needs her votes to win. Really? During the campaign La Brazile told us that they could win without our votes. Maybe a bit of reality juice got mixed in with the KoolAid last night.
My sister called and told me that if Hillary becomes his VP, she’ll lose every bit of respect that she had for Clinton. I agree and I daresay that the rest of Clinton’s supporters who don’t suffer from battered wife syndrome will, too.

I’ll just wait for the DVD, thanks. Morons.

Just as soon as Hillary concedes, I’m signing up as a volunteer for McCain’s campaign. Hate is not hope, Hillary or McCain 2008.

In His speech Obama claimed he would lower the sea’s and heal the earth.

Yo bro…you been holding out on us? You got some “powers”.

I guess the Southside of Chicago is some kind of utopia by now.

okie dokie!

Arugula:
A yellowish-flowered Mediterranean herb of the mustard family; which has flavoured leaves, often eaten in salads.

Funny it’s rather bitter tasting. But if you don’t cling to your bible or guns you’ll never be able to appreciate the bitter mustard flavor!

Hillary/McCain

RFLMAO!

“If McCain wins, you’ll be drafted into war…”

This isn’t going to win me any friends among so-called “progressives,” here or elsewhere, but let me tell you something. There should be a draft in this country. We should call it “national service.” The problem for “progressives” AND “conservatives” in my view is that they are ready with a shout out of “support for the troops,” when it’s politically expedient; but they don’t know a damn thing about the “troops.” I do. I grew up in a military family, served in the military, and am the spouse of military, who also comes from a military family. We have served in every war since the Civil War in my family. We have lost the comprehension in this country of what it means to serve in war; and that is what makes it so easy to send our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, siblings and relatives to war. When everyone is forced to serve–there will be FAR less military adventurism in this country.

Oh, yes. It is a thing devoutly to be wished–a DRAFT. So, please continue to use that argument about John McCain. I will vote for him in a heartbeat if he institutes a draft.

I know that even the most mediocre among us fancy themselves satirists from time to time. But you should definitely not quit your day job.

Sorry Uppity for the outburst. I am so so tired of these people telling me that Obama is great! i am so tired of the Lemmings coming here with their bullpoop and disrupting our conversations. They have no clue as to who this man is and is not.
They threaten us with McCain and the end of the world if we don;t fall in line. They threaten women with the abortion issue to try to get them to “switch”. This is the Unity that was promised? I want no part of it.
We don’t go to there cave and bother them. we don’t follow and ridicule them. little wonder why we are angry. ” YES WE CAN”!, yes we can destroy the Dem party should have been their mantra!
Again… I am sorry for the lingo Larry and Susan….I am just fed up with this “Unity” schtick of theirs.

As one old Marine once said “They have us surrounded, they can’t escape now”. WE GOT EM–VOTE McCAIN!

A very interesting read.

From Hillary: On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party’s nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

I hope those on this site who really are democrats will join Hillary in supporting the Democratic nominee for President.

I already gave my first donation to McCain today. The majority of Hillary’s campaign staff and volunteers here in Texas are going for McCain. These are LONG time party activists, who have run elections and worked their asses off for years. They are PISSED that the DNC would even consider this fraud and sham as POTUS.

Time to revolt. It will be resounding, trust me.

Can you hear us now, Dr. Dean? You will.

Yes it is Pagan.

“Do you know what a Mcain presidency would mean for women’s rights”

What a joke you just said right there. Obama, the DNC, and his supporters have already set women back 30 years thanks to their treatment of Hillary.

As a woman, the WORST thing to me has already happened, that is, the best female candidate for president who would have won has been shafted by an arrogant, corrupt bastard.

And then to be lectured by the likes of you.

I don’t think McCain is a bad Republican. He actually has Global Warming as an issue on his own website. I’ll be OK with a Republican who wants to help the environment, even if he’s just moderate about it. The environment is much more important to me than your vague threats over “minority rights” and other stuff that presidents don’t really have anything to do with.

I listened to his speech the other day and it seems to me as if he was holding out an olive branch to those 18 million voters. It would be interesting to see how many will go over to his side. I still havn’t decided myself but like he, I too am a Military Man and I believe he has the best interest of the country at heart. What I find curious is how Kerry will try to spin out of the fact that he asked McCain to be his VP, now that he is so Pro OBlama.

I can’t vote for Obama because of:

1. His dishonesty

2. His arrogance

3. His inexperience

4. His mysogyny

5. His inability to distinguish himself in any way in 25 years except by having friends like Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, Wright, etc.

6. His wife

7. The way the media shoved this man down my throat to get the nomination

8. His use of the race card

9. His verbal abuse of Bill Clinton

10.I don’t think I could listen to him talk for the next four years–ahh ahh ahh umm umm umm

Hey moron, I lived in AZ for over 7 years and one thing McCain did do was champion Hispanic rights in that State. He has quite a bit of empathy for immigrants in his State. Which is why he will definately get the Hispanic vote. So your crap about minority right is just that, crap. Do some reasearch.

You will have to excuse me, but in the name of reality, I’m not going to accept the Obama is inevitable meme.

He has not won, and I have no intention of feeding the meme.

And secondly, to buy into that crap is to buy into a false picture, no matter WHO are you, and to make decisions on the basis, and at the level, of an A (or in Obama’s case, a D list lobbyist), as opposed to a superior thinker.

It’s crap, and no.

This is how they’re losing the wars, the economies, their businesses, and all the oil, this method of Washington corporate thinking, mediocre thinking exemplified by the wannabes, and really, well, if you buy into this, the country falls, doesn’t it?

We have a Washington FULL of Rezko’s and Obama’s, and we need to face it, and get rid of them, once and for all.

WE all agree there are problems, and rather than really look at the problems, namely Corrupt Washington forcing third rate candidates on us, we co opt an attitude of “well, McCain is the lesser evil” or “what does it matter, the whole thing keeps chugging.”

And it doesn’t.

Again, sorry to sound like a broken record, but we all see how the trolls think, and well, they’re dumb.

And dumb can’t run a war, or an economy, republican, or democratic.

Mostly, DUMB can’t sustain a superpower. Can we agree?

Time to get real.

Now, for some coffee…

I have decided to suspend my Democratic party interest. I make this announcement with a great degree of hope for the future of this nation and this party.

I woke up today not giving a rat’s a^^ about how stupid and willful it intends to be. Instead, I am baking cookies for my 3 year old niece who — at her age is entitled to be willful and immature. I am cleaning my house, donating old clothing to a battered woman shelter and a stack of the local newspapers to the dog shelter so that the dogs can pee and poop on all of the “she should drop out” editorials that the bully boys have published for the past six months. I am pulling the last few pesky weeds out of my back yard and putting in the remaining plants that I bought and will make plans to enjoy the outdoors and STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MSNBC, CNN, and NBC. ABC is on my last good nerve and I am about three minutes away from giving them the heave hoe as well. I am going to change my MySpace page and warn anyone who visits NOT TO MENTION POLITICS to me until after November, unless of course Barak Obama drops out.

NoQuarter will still be my only source of news for all things political, but I am not reading posts from anyone whose screen name I don’t recognize since I cannot be bothered reading troll nonsense and won’t risk it on posts by people I don’t know.

My stimulous check arrives today or tomorrow — I got notice from the IRS — and half is going to Hillary and the other half to John McCain to run ads against Obama.

I suggest that all of you find something positive to do. It is going to take all of our strength to keep this country from going to the special interest groups represented by the Obama bundlers. Not a good thought imho.

America 2008.

Bitter vindictive Hillary supporters for Barr 2008!

What is your problem? Really? You won, so go celebrate by playing with the new toy mommy bought you yesterday.
Oh, and BTW, in case you missed the memo, your candidate now acknowledges that he needs our votes to win. You’re not helping him.

two sugars for me please

Who is the idiot that is saying McCain isn’t good for minority rights? Have they even looked at his Az record? I lived in AZ for over 7 years and he’s been championing Hispanic rights for a while now. The Hispanic vote will be his, numbnut. Sheesh, do trolls ever do any homework at all??

WooHoo, Go McCain!!

No more Roe v Wade and 100 more years in Iraq!

Yippee!!!!!

What happened to the witty Gamzulatov.

Is this what happens when you get turned down, sweetie?

grandiosity = 1/pusillanimity

Yeah Go play with your new toy Obamajerks!

Our new toy is a roaring scratching Puma that will poke one of your eyes out and eat your arugula!

Didn’t you see what happened to red dragon? Obama shit on his dinner plate!

Is that who you want for President? Is It?

PUMA rulz
OSTINKA drulz

OT:

Clemons thinks Obama may run Sam Nunn as a member of his shadow cabinet.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/06/asking_and_tell/

Don’t ask Don’t tell is quite a path to unity.

And yet, LVII, John Kerry thought McCain would be an excellent Democratic Vice President in 2004.

How do you explain that?

Even NY Congressman Charlie Rangel was supporting a return to the draft with virtually no exemptions, as the best way to mobilize the public to get the hell out of Iraq. After the Vietnam War, the politicians maintained draft registration (in case of emergency), but ended conscription because they saw that conscription gave many folks who were not enamored of our entanglement a real stake in trying to end it. The argument was made that a professional all volunteer military would be more economical better trained, better disciplined, and more effective, and that argument has merit, but the position that a military largely made up of conscripts can provoke virulent (and highly contagious) opposition (in a society that has some safeguards for expressing political opposition)to some military adventures is also correct. Once the protesting youth got their parents on board against the Vietnam War, then the war had to end. The prospect of being sent to fight and die (against your will) in a war that you do not understand or support can be a terrific motivation tool to get the youth into the streets for protest. When its just the “volunteers” fighting and dying, its more like “fetch me another bag of Cheetos”.

Nope…Just put the Hopium in the pipe and smoke it!

Thanks for the link, Gloria. A very interesting read. IF the IRS had enforced stripping tax exempt status of Churches that preached politics from the pulpit or told congregants how to vote from the pulpit…maybe some of these radicals would have faded into the woodwork. They obviously know they can say whatever they want and not be penalized. And I do realize the Rainbow/PUSH meeting was not held in a Church.

PArty leaders are working behind the scene to keep Hillary off the ticket.

She won the MOST votes, you idiots!

Laugh today, cry tomorrow.

See you in November!!

Thanks for the link, Gloria. Interesting read.

What is your problem? Really? You won. Go play with the new toy mommy bought you.
And BTW, your candidate has now acknowledged that he’s needs out votes to win. You’re not helping him.

How right you are Rob!

I’ve said for awhile now that I was Independent rather than Democrat. I got mad back when Dean was on the circuit calling for Hillary to quit. It makes me laugh now to see that she has the popular vote win. He was so smug about the entire situation until the DNC was flooded with calls and e-mails. Then his tune changed.

The articles today are still so terribly rude in tone. I’m not convinced that Hillary even wants the VP position, but you’d think she’s demanding it from the editorials. I highly doubt that’s the case. What I do know is that the pundits continue to underestimate his electability problem. They seem to think some kind of general academic discussion of racism actually means squat. The fact that Obama has angered groups just hasn’t dawned on them yet.

Oh well….passing the popcorn to fellow Pumas.

It’s so nice to have ‘new’ people visiting this week. Larry, your site meter is really going up. Ad revenue is going to be great! Thanks, new visitors!!

If I register for this site, do I get a free pacifier and diapers?

CNN contacted Democrats Against Obama wants to know more about us who runs it ect. We are growing in HUGE numbers. Join us if you’re not voting for Obama lets us know we have there attention.

Last time I looked, hon, this was still a democracy and I can vote any damn way I want and for whom ever I think is the better candidate. And I don’t need to lectured by some snot-nosed kid who called me moron, racist, and offered to fill me with birdshot and offer me up as duck and eat me for dinner becasue I had a different opinion. Should have thought about my vote way back when sonny. I cannot in good conscience vote for inexpereince and daffy corrupt and unrepentent terrorist friends and associates. Go give your lecture to that big base of voters you all created in the primary. You lost me and the UN-Democratic Party lost me.

CNN contacted Democrats Against Obama wants to know more about us who runs it ect. We are growing in HUGE numbers. Join us if you’re not voting for Obama lets us know we have there attention.
http://democrats-against-obama.org/

In case you missed the memo this morning, Obama now acknowledges that he needs our votes to win. You’re not helping him.

Okay listen up you Russian Obamajerks!

John A (at the top of this post) has written a song. It is all about Hillary if she was an eagle and she was God flying around protecting America.

Now we have an Eagle and We have a Puma And they will kick your russian marxist butt right back to Obamaland.

You stink so go home and leave us alone with our eagle and our puma before you are very sorry.

In case you didn’t know a Puma is not just any old house cat. IT is huge and it roars and can scratch the hell out of your russian ass. So give it up because our eagle is flying high.

OBAMA Stinks

Just try to absorb her own words:

This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

Pagen,
I LOVE the momentum and excitement of the new and improved anti-Obama, anti-DNC movement.
This must be what good old Sam Adams and friends felt like right before the Tea Party. It’s exhilerating!
Thank you, and all of the Faithful!!

Funny.
I see that the mentally ill have escaped from the little yellow school bus!
No originality, only grade school taunts. These are the ones “WE” have been waiting for?
God help us all!
“YES WE CAN”! LOL

just signed up on mccain’s website…

his website is soo much better than hillary’s… seriously, so many more features and stuff to explore etc etc…

really well thought out…

McCain is gonna rawk!

i’ve actually always respected mccain even though i’ve been a democrat all my life…

Gee, all that grey matter for this shit. Concrete facts and advice. Obama will lose anyway you slice it. At the convention, GE, or indictment. Put that in your Kool-Aid!

4.) Remember that there is a better alternative. Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate for the party and the nation. She has a lot of support out there. The nation will rally around her if we let them know we are not giving in. We must not let her concede one inch. Stand firm. Send her your good thoughts. Send her money. Do not give up.

With you there! No need to give up!

Hillary WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!

OT troll food:

Obamatons: Hillary is still very much in the race! We have until August 25 to actually select a nominee. We are now in the second half of the campaign. In case you did not notice on Saturday Hillary will only be suspending her campaign. By doing this she keeps her delegates and can still seek the nomination and we will help her get the nomination.

Now that your pals in the MSM have anointed Obama the nominee you won’t have them bashing Hillary any longer. And already the MSM is turning on Obama as we warned you. You won’t be able to bash Hillary as she supports Obama for party unity. Hillary will support party unity because she will have to fix this disaster you and Obama have created. Sorry Obamatons you will have to fight your battle on three fronts:

1. Keeping your supporters from jumping ship.

3. Fighting us Hillary supporters without bashing Hillary since she supports Obama (for now) for party unity. We still see Hillary taking the nomination no matter how hard you click your ruby slippers that we just go away.

Sorry but we won’t be going anywhere. Obama limped over the voting portion of the finish line. Hillary charged over by winning the popular vote. There is no nominee until August 25.

In the end the DNC will be begging the Clinton’s to save the party and Hillary will be our next president. I hope the Clinton’s take a long vacation sipping pina coladas on the beach while they laugh there asses off while Obama and your trolls spin your wheels for the next 2 months.

Hillary ‘08 + ‘12!

Did you forget to take your medication this morning?

FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN…I beleieve honesty is the best policy folks so here goes. I voted for Bush, I still like him, and I was going to vote for McCain until I say what was happening. While watching the Democratic primary I have to tell you that I gained enormous respect for Hillary. I has always thought she was to hard, but during the campaign I saw someone who truly loves this country & wants to help the American people. I could not believe how she was shafted. From the start the media was on Obama’s side. It makes me sick to see how she was treated. The DNC and the media made it impossible for her to get a fair shot. Bill Clinton was right, I have never seen a candidate treated the way that Hillary has been treated. The names she and her supporters have been called and are still being called is disgusting. After all that is known and still remains unknown about Obama the nomination is being handed to him on a silver platter. What really scares me is that after all the radical stuff that has come out about him and his wife I am dumfounded that anyone still supports him. What is going on in America. Have you watched the YOUTUBE video..OBAMA TO DISARM THE MILITARY…this man is not fit to be commander in chief of our military. I don’t care if McCain or Hillary get prez, but Obama CANNOT. It isn’t a matter of what party we as Americans belong to anymore, we have to do what is best for this country. I heard on Fox this morning that Robert Knovak was told by a top Democrat that he would sleep better if McCain is elected…my question is than what the hell are all these DNC leaders doing by voting for Obama and forcing Hillary to support him. I know from reading other blogs that we all want the same things and feel the same way…our GUTT tells us something is not right about Obama. I am working as hard as I can to get people to get Hillary or McCain elected. I hope all of you will also. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

one really big difference between clinton and obama is that obama steals votes and has been stealing votes and sabotaging the democratic process for his own personal gain his whole political life…

no american can support Obama’s shameful vote stealing…

green, black, orange, white, democrat, republican, independent – we are all united behind the principles of democracy

adios Obama

Dream on Sleepy. I am sure you believe that. The problem with your argument is that as an Edwards supporter, I find it hard to believe you have ever supported “HILLARY”. You may have supported her “HUSBAND”, but i find it hard to believe you ever supported her. I may be wrong. If I am, I’m sorry. but I have spoked to many Hillary supporters, maybe not as many as I would like to swing the election, but enough in my district to defeat any candidate that supports Obama! If that is what we have to do than so be it!

“Democrats for McCain”? There is no such thing as a Democrat who supports McCain. If you vote for McCain, you’re voting for George Bush’s war in Iraq. You’re voting for George Bush’s tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy. You’re voting for anti-choice, anti-gay rights Supreme Court justices. You’re voting for privatized Social Security. You’re voting for legalized torture, against habeas corpus and against the rule of law. You’re voting against equal respect and dignity under the law for gays and lesbians. You’re voting against the interests of organized labor. And you’re voting against 95% of what Hillary Clinton stood for during her campaign.

Call yourselves whatever you want, but if you think McCain would be a better president than Barack Obama, you’re a liar if you call yourself a Democrat. Real Democrats support candidates who uphold the values of the Democratic Party. They don’t vote for Republicans because their tender feelings got hurt.

P.S. You didn’t get robbed of a damn thing. Barack Obama is the choice of a majority of Democratic voters, and Hillary didn’t win the popular vote – not unless you include Michigan’s non-sanctioned, all-white exhibition vote.

Now a republican, lets take back our government from George Soros…….

gamzulatov do you really think anyone is trying to convince you? Do you really believe any one here but a few other obamabites really give a damn about you? LOL that just shows you how arrogant and your messiah really are.

When they say “McCain is bad on minority rights”, what they mean is “He treats all minorities with respect, and the same, and does not kowtow and genuflect enough to the AA powerbrokers.” Rev Wrights of the world

Their definition of “bad on minority rights” has nothing to do with McCain’s actual record. It has to do with his refusal to join the white guilt genuflecting to AA leaders bandwagon that keeps the Rev. Wrights of the world in their 10 million dollar homes.

playing the race card, sexism, manipulation, bitter, typical white, allowing Hillary bashing, feeding the Obama media negativity, insulting her supporters, His supporters “they don’t need us”. He didn’t help himself. We are not voting for Obama because hes not qualified and he used the race card to win, divided this great country even further. They lowered the bar to 2118, then they stole her votes and the voters of Michigan votes to give him the 2118. As American How Do You Allowed This? Stand On Principles, or forever be a puppet.

DJ, this is how I feel also. Precedence is being set. Very Dangerous.

I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values. The main thing is to start looking at this as political and stop taking it all so personally. You feel kicked in the gutter and ignored and neglected and abused, but as the weeks pass you’ll see all that happened is a lot of people got excited about a different candidate, and one who is not the monster your resentment has led you to construct out of vapors and rumors. Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

I know, I know. Obamamot! Hater! Troll! That’s what you say today. I think the lot of you need to take a deep breath, walk away from this little hate-o-sphere and Larry’s psyops, do things that make you happy, and let the hate subside. Then come back with a newfound sense of purpose that’s based on your political values, not on hate and resentment.

I’m out. Best wishes to all of you.

- Walter

And her words meant what to you 48 hours ago?

Go to hell and take the rest of the trolls with you. We don’t need the lunatic fringe telling us anything about votes.

Wow! the DNC has just swiftboated my former party’s own best candidate.

Sad.

And who will be blamed when nobama loses in the fall?

…you guessed it…Hillary Clinton!

God save us.

I see that besides being mentally challenged, some Trolls can’t read either!
Oh I see………I’ve acknowledged the child and gave him a sense of worth so I am his Buddy today! Hmmm…Do you think if I ignore this poor sick soul he will go away? Doubt it.

I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values. The main thing is to start looking at this as political and stop taking it all so personally. You feel kicked in the gutter and ignored and neglected and abused, but as the weeks pass you’ll see all that happened is a lot of people got excited about a different candidate, and one who is not the monster your resentment has led you to construct out of vapors and rumors. Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

I know, I know. Obamamot! Hater! Troll! That’s what you say today. I think the lot of you need to take a deep breath, walk away from this little hate-o-sphere and Larry’s psyops, do things that make you happy, and let the hate subside. Then come back with a newfound sense of purpose that’s based on your political values, not on hate and resentment.

I’m out. Best wishes to all of you. If anyone wants to talk about the differences between the candidates without just hurling accusations back and forth, feel free to email me.

- Walter (walter.windchill@gmail.com)

“Democrats for McCain”?

Sure is such a thing. You can thank Obama, Axelrod, the MSM, DNC, Perlosi, Dean and you trolls for manifesting this. You can blame shift all you want but it won’t change the truth.

Ye sow what ye reap. If you want to blame anyone look in a mirror.

And don’t worry, we will have a Democrat in the White House: Hillary!

August is 25 is a long way off troll.

Comment by Walter | 2008-06-05 08:51:52

I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values
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No way Walter this is move then hate, I fear for the security of my country………..

I fought for my country and I’m not taking any chances playing with this guy, whomever he is.

The only real winner is Corporate owned main stream media- They’ve shoved Obama down our throats, shoving McCain up our asses and Hillary was screwed in every way possible. The Corporations depend on their controlling the masses and man, have they done that. We have lost the freedom to vote let alone think. The Corporate Pied Piper is the only winner in this farce of political choice.

[...] Hillary supporters are defecting to John McCain is senseless and extremely disturbing to me. Yes, dissent is delicious. Absolutely. But choosing a major far-rightwing warmonger (John McCain) because you don’t [...]

Remember that the vast majority of Democrats voted for Gore, too, but enough voted for Bush to allow that election to be stolen. Much as the party hacks like to blame Nader, it was Florida DEMOCRATS that cost us a Gore presidency. Once again, team Obama thinks that I OWE the party my vote (and I’m not even a Democrat). Hubris is a dangerous thing. My vote isn’t OWED to anyone, and he would do well to remember that.

Being dismissive of entire classes of people, and saying they don’t need us to win is NOT the way to go. I’ve done my own research on Obama, and I DON’T like what I see. He has not earned my vote. Also, I agree that these young womenwho take their rights for granted might see things differently if they actually had to FIGHT for something for once in their entitled little lives.

I love this post, Pagan. I’m too disgusted to even blog right now. I’m made that Hillary had to send that email about uniting behind the Big Pretender.

I’m disgusted at the sexism and misogyny that’s been directed at Hillary and her supporters. And it hasn’t stopped and it won’t now that people are rewarding BO and his band of thugs.

I’m disconcerted that the people I used to align myself with are now alien to me.

I’m horrified that the party of the people is now an operation funded by the Chicago political machine.

I’m disillusioned by the people’s acceptance of illegal, immoral, unethical, opportunistic and greedy political maneuvering.

I’m depressed that the same virulent sexism that’s haunted my 50+ years on this earth has undermined the best candidate for president that’s come along since Bill Clinton.

And I can’t believe the racism and race baiting that’s propelled this neophyte nobody to the top of the ticket.

When I feel like this, there’s rage brewing inside me that will need an outlet. I will direct it towards exposing the crooked $$ machine behind him and doing everything possible to defeat BO in the GE.

Walter…
Some may feel this way and some not. It’s not about hate brother, more so the atmosphere. My take, no one else’s. I don’t hate the man, never did. I just don’t trust him Politically. I can not give my vote to someone I don’t trust. It could be Hillary, Obama or Edwards for that matter. this has nothing to do with hurt feelings.
but you are right Brother, There are deep wounds that need to be healed. The problem with healing those wounds is that you can’t have a civil discussion about policy with Children! all you get is taunts and smart ass remarks. just look at the thread. you will admit that won’t you?
i am willing to have an intelligent discussion with anyone, but when someone calls me out for not supporting a certain candidate….That I cannot oblige

I love this post, Pagan. I’m too disgusted to even blog right now. I’m mad that Hillary had to send that email about uniting behind the Big Pretender.

I’m disgusted at the sexism and misogyny that’s been directed at Hillary and her supporters. And it hasn’t stopped and it won’t now that people are rewarding BO and his band of thugs.

I’m disconcerted that the people I used to align myself with are now alien to me.

I’m horrified that the party of the people is now an operation funded by the Chicago political machine.

I’m disillusioned by the people’s acceptance of illegal, immoral, unethical, opportunistic and greedy political maneuvering.

I’m depressed that the same virulent sexism that’s haunted my 50+ years on this earth has undermined the best candidate for president that’s come along since Bill Clinton.

And I can’t believe the racism and race baiting that’s propelled this neophyte nobody to the top of the ticket.

When I feel like this, there’s rage brewing inside me that will need an outlet. I will direct it towards exposing the crooked $$ machine behind him and doing everything possible to defeat BO in the GE.

Medusa…..

I WILL do whatever I have to do to expose this man for who he is…I ask all of us with the means and time to do the same. enough of the Troll wrestling, time to roll up our sleeves and get to work…No Quarter has already taken the hits for speaking out, will we?

Plan A Hillary
Plan B McCain

Disqualified MOBO

ehemmm….gomccain…
SPUCATUM TAURI ! ES SCORTUM OBSENUS VILIS !….PODEX PERFECTUS ES !
now waddle back to GAZA….yawn…..

Hey, I am not afraid of the Draft or Roe V. Wade arguement. Why, cause I am one of those old bitter women. Ok, I am not that but old enough to have worked on the Dukakis campaign and never again will I get sucked in to work for somebody I think is that incompetent. Obama is more incompetent and corrupt. I was a big giver to the democrats, not anymore. Hey let these young obamabots give to all the congressional campaign committees and the DNC. Oh that’s right, they don’t have anymoney cause they are spending it all on ipods, iphones, etc. Guess the DNC won’t miss all that money from us bitter old women with disposable incomes. The Obama people and campaign are making some big mistakes by attacking Hillary and her people won’t inspire me to unify, it just makes me more pissed off. (Lest the Obamabots thinks I am a complete racist-I gave money for Senator Obama’s US Senate race and a small of money for him when he declared because I was a good democrat and supported candidates all over the country-then I found out more about him-I am not giving anymore money) So all these young people might find out what it really is like to live without privilege.

Exagerated? Bitter, clingy, gun-toting, ignorant racist white person? That’s fabricated?

No, this is about a primary gone very, very bad. Republican-style sliming against a very good, highly qualified woman from her own.

We (my husband and I), just had some doubts about him back in January, but now…oh, we can’t stand the nasty, back-biting, hysterically hypocritical coward. Not. At. All.

My political values are this…I’m an old Democrat, and the liberal elitist isn’t going to get my vote. Not now, not ever. Why would I ever want to vote against my best interests? Meaning, vote for some whiny, arrogant elitist, who’s been obvious in his disdain for my unpapered, working class white self?

‘Sides, him and ol’ Donna don’t want us, so we’ll just take our two lil’ ol’ votes elsewhere.

Yup, us hicks is Dems for McCain!

Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

Hillary supporters must ask themselves: why do Obamatrons hate you?

If your bf or husband smacks you around, what did you do to deserve it?

They’re just excited about a “different” kind of candidate.

See, they’re strung out on hopium. And you can’t be so cruel to a junkie as to hold him responsible for his actions.

I hope those on this site who really are democrats

Oh I’m really a Democrat, but thanks for asking. The problem is I am really NOT a Marxist.

Wow… Morphing from the KKK to the PPP!

All hail the Purple Pussy Party!

Pastor Manning sent this urgent message to Hillary Clinton…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuysWJDP6J4

Who are you calling a whore? Freak!

If Obama did not get the nomination the blacks would of been saying they will not vote, it sure is strange that they now feel all of us are dumb and stupid so we should just run to the polls a vote Obama because Hillary says so.

Maybe some will but not me, I am not going to let anyone use my vote to get Obama into the white house, Hillary needs to do what she feels to do for her political life, I am just a voter and not seeking office so I can do what the hell I want with my vote.

How embarrassing it is here is the DNC making fuss over this great candidate Obama, wanting all of us to get on the train and celebrate the first AA to win the nomination and the next day Obama main backer get convicted on a host of charges.

Does the DNC have no shame? This is the first stain on Obama with more to come about his little “board games” and Rezko, but yet me must all follow like sheep and vote for him anyway, if Hillary wants to attach herself to that and get pulled into that shit with the entire lot of them its her chance she is taking.

If we are to take a cue from the Rezko trial as to the kind of dirty politics, with kickback, money laundering, big deals and scams as the new kind of politics that Obama is brining to the WH well I say leave the dam republicans there, I will not be part of changing one set of people to put in others that are going to bleed the treasury in wonderful deals all over again.

That is not change that is exchange we are being fooled into moving one set of players to put another group that from day one questions is being raised on what role Obama played with Rezko, I guess they also want us to believe that the republicans will sit quiet on this Rezko event and not point out scandal after scandal of what was going on with those hospital boards in Chicago.

No I will not be part of that, in time Obama’s name is going to hooked to Rezko, we don’t need a tape the Republicans have the greatest gift they could of asked for, they have Rezko and now its just to wait and see what role Obama played in the senate to get all this money passed between all of them.

choosing a major far-rightwing warmonger (John McCain)

They did not wait long to attack McCain. And I’m laughing my ass off that the trolls are whining about Democrats for McCain when it is their fault people have done this! Ye sow what ye reap.

Hey trolls there are no caucuses to screw with in the GE and its winner take all. That Western state strategy has a snowball’s chance in hell.

But you and Obama will implode before the convention and Hillary will save the party and us from you and Obama.

All the lousy arguements against voting for McCain campare on a whole as a slight hick up compared to having a communist in the White House!

Obama is a deep rooted Communist, taught by Frank Marshall Davis! Anyone who knows anything knows Obama is so deeply rooted in this, his life path proves it!

What is ironic is Blacks overwhelmingly supported Obama, and if they did even a tad bit of reading would have learned Obama’s mentor although Black, placed communism above race! Incredible how stupid people have proven themselves, Obama’s mentor was against going to war against Hitler even when the world was on board!

Ah how stupid those Obama voters are to accept the words of an unknown, but to those who do know, took the time to learn who the guy actually is, will fight for Democracy over communism all the way!

And trolls, crawl back into your Palestine bunkers and cash your Obama troll checks fast they will be worthless shortly!

I used to read this site back around 2004, thought it was a great place to see what was going on with the Plame thing, etc. Now all I see is the hate and vitriol comparable with the most right wing wacko sites’s…. you are the most hateful group I have yet to see, how many of you also hang out a LGF? Quite a few it seems. You are not anywhere near the attitude of patriots which is what we need now. You embarrass me.. and should try and see beyond your own little prideful rants. I am a Hillary supporter and really was pulling for her… I saw it as a good process for all Democrats, politics is politics. So as all of you leave the party (after a few months R->D->R?) don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!!! AMF!!!

Pastor Manning sends this urgent message to Hillary Clinton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuysWJDP6J4

Now all I see is the hate and vitriol comparable with the most right wing wacko sites’s….

New talking points?

Yawn.

Have you guys seen the latest Zerox nobama has said this past tuesday. when is this guys going to come up with his own words!!!

http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/obama-pep-rally-speech-recycles-mario-cuomo-lines-1984-video

P. Soles… I think you’re on to something here. Henceforth you shall all be known as the Pink Pussies!

Now that’s a party I can get behind.

Now, now. Calm down. Just because you speak from first hand experience what do you know?

I mean just because you live in his district and have seen what he hasn’t done for his own community, what do you know?

You’re using facts. You obviously care for the poor in your community. You fought to get them help. Ergo you are a racist.

/sarcasm off

No, dear, we are not democrats, not any longer. We are independents now, because we care about voters rights. We care about the process of democracy, and we value it more highly than the rights you speak of. I was a lifelong democrat, but until the democratic party reforms their election process, I am now an independent.
As for your list of rights that you are worried about all but one will be fine, because we will have a democratic congress. Reproductive rights? This may be something young women will have to fight for. They are choosing to vote for the most inexperienced and unvetted candidate any party has put up for nomination. The democratic party refuses to vet their candidates before swooning. This is one of the major reasons I am leaving the party. They have turned into a party of losers choosing losers.

http://blog.pumapac.org/

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-06-05 08:58:33

Hillary was screwed in every way possible.

That’s not a very nice thing to say about our first lady……fella…

Oh and just out of curiosity, what made you think anyone gave a rat’s ass about what you think?

Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and to suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while the all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and not suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while the all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

DEB…..

you don’t know Us! To call Us a racist’ or insinuate that we are hateful is pretty ignorant. You don’t know why so many of us are angry. I’m sorry the truth is painful for you to read, but to insinuate that we are racist or hateful is pretty extreme don’t you think?

Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and not suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while they all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

Justin McCain is already committed to global warming and renewable energy, he spoke about it on Tuesday night and several other times before. McCain and Hillary convinced several other members of Congress to go with them to the Antartic so they could show them the effects of Global Warming. This had always been a bi-partisan issue in fact it was Teddy Rosevelt (R) who initiated the concern for our environment, along with voting against cheney’s energy bill obama voted for it, proves he cares more than obama. He has also promised to regulate the health insurance industry, neither one of the candidates believe in UHC though McCain wants to give more of a tax credit than obama to help people buy it. I know that McCain will do what is right when he becomes President and I know that he believes in our country and will restore us on our path back to the future.

The DNC and The RBC allowed the disenfranchisement of 2.5 million people and allowed obama to squash a revote for both of them, then they decided to usurp the will of the voters for their own when they had no authority to do so (regardless if the michigan leadership proposed it)and what the democratic party did was worse than what the Supreme Court did in 2000. Since then our government with bush’s dictatorial inspirations have taken hold of this new culture and if “we the people” allow this to continue we will not beable to stop this and it will completely destroy our country, Constitution, and her meaning. I will vote for McCain to stop this and work very hard to stop the dems from continuing the killing of a great nation that has continued the quest in the realization of American Exceptualism and realizing her fullest postential.

BOTTOM LINE:

Obama is incompetent, spineless, unqualified, and immoral. Obviously not presidential material.
Hillary or McCain! Vote for a true American!

I think what it came down to was that Sen. Clinton is too tied to the party to defect. Also, retiring her debt is probably a big concern. She will suspend and hope the other shoe (of a dozen) drops soon, that would be the MO rant.

Meanwhile, I’m going to haul my formerly democratic but now apparently racist white butt to McCain. And I have advised my congresscritters that I will no longer vote for them, nor send them $. I live in MA so it is “tilting at windmills”, but I hope we can put a scare into Kerry and Frank.

Obama actually thinks that it should be up to the generals to decide about lesbians and gays in the military. Progressive, much?

I just signed up as a McCain supporter. I was going to wait until Saturday, but Gamzulatov and Walter.windchill@gmail.com have convinced me that I need to start working for him now.
Good job, guys. Your representation for Obama was about what I expected, and I wasn’t disappointed. Keep up the good work.

upset. You seem upset. In an obsessive-compulsive kind of way.

Ordered my yardsign today

I don’t mind if you vote for McCain

Thanks for your permission. In a Marxist society, it is required.

Is this really what it’s come to?

In a word, Yes.

Now I will give you my regular roe v wade “threat” answer:

If my younger sisters lose Roe Wade it will be their own fault for taking the rights they have for granted, because they didn’t fight for them. They are complacent and can take the time to swoon over a sexy empty suit who has already set gender relations back a minimum of 30 years, and we haven’t even gotten to the General Election campaign yet. Serves them right. Not my problem. I know how not to get pregnant.

It’s my job to protect the rights I fought for that matter to me. This is a misogynist’s campaign and if younger women are too busy spawning over Leland Gaunt handing out Needful Things and discussing his vibrating phone when he leans on one of them, then they will have to learn to take the consequences of their own folly along with the consolations. Maybe then they will Get It. I have already done well in my life. Complacency is their enemy, not mine. Let em eat vibrating cell phones.

Now there is a poster child for abortion! The world would have been better off if his Daddy used a Tissue and flushed the creature down the toilet!

Thanks for this story Larry! It really needed to be shared. After the media has thrown Hillary under the bus, it’s time for McCain 2008!

Beautiful response.

good response Uppity.

The Democrats.com page has the saviour on the home page. What they forget is a sizeable amount of non-obamaites will not vote for him, will vote/work for mccain or will write in HC. But please e-mail the DNC and keep on their mailing lists so they can waste $ pursuing non dem voters and people who won’t give them $.

Oh, LOL… you Obama nuts really crack ME up. Do you know what damage to our young minds Bill Ayers could do with his school “programs” in an Obama presidency? Do you know how easily the Chicago Combine could rape the US treasury if they had one of their own in the White House? Do you even have an inkling of the havoc that could be wreaked in race relations by a bunch of Blacj Liberation Thoelogists with closwe ties to the POTUS?

Get fucking real with your tired “oh, you are not Democrats” bullshit and take a look at your flawed Marxist can What kind of Democrat are you to be for a Marxist candidate who could do as much damage if not more to our Democracy than George W Bush?

Go away. We will not change our minds. You’d better think long and hard about what you are about to do in Nov.

You’re either with us , or against us.

Sorry. I’ve heard that before.

If you’re pro-life, pro the Iraq war, anti gay marriage, and for a third term of bush’s economic policies, be sure to vote for mccain.

Maybe you can make Senator Clinton the new nader and just write her in.

If you vote for mccain you are Not a Democrat.

What is going on with the Obama fawners now is exactly what goes on with wife-beating or child-abusing spouses.
They are begging their victims to come home, please give them another chance, while at the same time blameing the victim for the situation.

They beat, punch, denigrate, torture, and try to psychologically enslave their victims. They feel all powerful until someone or something intercedes and they feel they are losing their power over said victims.

Then they grovel, cajole, and beg for another chance, while still intermittently harassing their victims if the persuasion seems not to be working.

Wise or rescued victims never return to their clutches, remove them from their lives, and avoid them like the plague.

The resolve and common goal of Clinton supporters is shelter. We do not have to deal with the psychoactive projections of the Obama minions.

We shall avoid them like the plague, while understanding their psychosis is not our problem!

Obama cannot and will not win and his abusive, insufferable supporters know it! We hold the keys!

I have to agree. I want to fight to make things better for my children. I don’t want them to have to go through the same things I did.

I’m new here, and interested in understanding where this blog is coming from. Having been a Dean supporter, and having had to help Kerry even after all the dirty tricks and unfair coverage, I think I can get some of the sentiment I’ve read above. On the other hand, there are a lot of “inside” references to things ‘we all know about’ that are confusing to me. As a worried Democrat who’s not so in love with the party and almost never got to pull the lever for a candidate I loved, I hope to learn something here about what’s standing between all of you and all of the Obama people (I was a Richardson gal, so consider myself a visitor in both camps). Understandable if you consider me a troll fishing before I pounce, but I really am here visiting to learn. Thanks to anyone who can help me see your side.

As a non-US citizen this is really interesting to watch.
All those of you who are now ‘leaving for McCain’ clearly confirms what many expressed beforehand: McCain/Hillary what’s the difference? They both would’ve been 4 more years.

So you tacked along the Clinton trail just for the laughs or what? Now that it’s over you drift back into the fold.

I believe that Obama would be far the best that could happen to USA, just think new Supreme Court judges or Iraq.

But for the rest of the world Republican rule has been a great improvement: I’m sure Putin has been watching Bush’s suicidal policies with amazement. Iran is thrilled by its new strong position after the invasion of Iraq. US is a shadow of its former self, South America is blooming in the absence of a clear us-strategy, Europe is maturing to the challenges of a world without US supremacy.

I can only speak for myself and my wife(both lifelong Dems 20+ years) McCain has our vote come November.

Hope and Change isn’t a platform.

linda — Obama isn’t into mending fences thats why he’s got trolls. Hillary or McCain — no other option.

I don’t think you know the definition of “Facism”.

Yeah Linda if you Love OBAMA so much, why don’t you marry him?

Greatest generation my foot

You people are fanatical self-defeating morons. You should have left the party with the rest of the racists back in the 60s. If you think having four more years of Bush regime policies and two to three more far right justices apointed to the Supreme Court (you must not care about women’s rights or Roe vs Wade) is better than the possibility of having a black Democratic president, then you aren’t now, and never have been, a Democrat.

Excellent post Medusa!

Now, I’m so happy you’re starting to get our message.

You got it.

We have exited the Democratic Party.

bye-bye…..

It seems like self serving hurt is more important than reality in this forum. So you engage in a self destructive rant and you just might carry it on till November while AlQaida, Putin, Ahmedinejad and all the others who have benefited from Bush are cheering on.

I, for one, still see Obama as the best choice for America while McCain is the best for the rest of the world.

So all your false democrats, Go for it, vote America down the drain, while the bad guys are laughing their asses off.

I am not a wayward progressive. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I care about the future for all children. I am 61 years old and I would never vote for a morally insane person such as John McCain. Besides, who would be running the country if he won? He was fifth from the bottom of a class of over 900 graduating cadets.Is this someone you want in charge of our lives? He also is a convenient liar. I am deeply saddened regarding the state of our country and the propaganda that abounds. cheryl

I’ve never seen so much stupid self-delusion packed into one place. Congratulations! Yes, let’s continue the Bush Cheney years because the candidate with a vagina failed to win the nomination. Capital plan.

You people are fucking morons, I would rather die in a fire than have a bunch of ignorant sots vote for republicans out of spite for a democratic candidate.

Whatever, you all are so ignorant it makes me physically ill.

Pro-Tip: The capslock doesn’t make your opinions more important.

I’m not quite that cynical. I think Hillary is experienced and knows how to walk the line on most of her statements. She’s learned from experience that you have to live by them later.

Obama? He’s a goof.

McCain? He’s known for being a renegade and will just say, “Pshhhhh.”

It’s who has the ability to connect with real people. Hillary does. But she’s also hamstringed by being the “woman.” God knows, if she ever just let it rip, the world would go mad. Even her gentle remarks get the media boys so upset. They all have mother hang-ups, obviously.

Being a mother myself, I get it. I have to be very, very careful with my adult son. I have TOO much power, even today. And he’s a grown man. When I figured that out finally, we started getting along. I like to say I sound like my grandmother these days. Nothing but positive because the slightest criticism sends him into a tizzy.

Women have too much emotional power. Not enough position power.

Hillary’s campaign showed us all the challenge. We just have to balance this better in the future for our daughters.

It’s silly stuff, really.

To all you so-called Democrats who are sore losers and probably closet racists, go vote for John McBush. You think you have it bad now, just wait. Obama has taken the high road from the beginning. He has done nothing but be respectful the entire race. Even when Billary threw party destroying trash cans at him, he remained positive and composed. We don’t need shallow people in the party anyway. Just be prepared for high gas prices, the elimination of roe vs. wade, a non ending war, no health care initiatives, a busted national budget, tons more soldiers killed, a potential war with Iran, escalated food prices and disrespect around the world. The Flip-Flop express has left the station, go jump on! And don’t complain like the idiots that now have buyers remorse over the current Dummy in the whitehouse.

To all you so-called democrats and closet racists, go vote for McBush. You think you have it bad now, just wait. Obama has taken the high road from day one. Even when your selfish candidate threw trash can at him. Get ready for the elimination of roe vs. wade, sky high gas prices, a never ending war and disrespect around the world. You don’t deserve a good president.

reddragon62 I agree with you, what I can not understand is if they don’t need us or want us, then why do they come here and try to get us to fall in line? I think they do need the votes, but would never admit to it….

RedDragon62 I agree with you, but what I can’t understand is if they do not need our vote, then why are they here trying to get us to fall in line. I think they know they need us, and they know if everyone votes McCain they will lose….

Dixie-Crats for McCain!

The South WILL rise again!

Be still my heart. We’ve made you ill?

That’s just too good to be true stuff.

I so thank you for sharing.

Enough of you say it, I’ll feel happy.

I love the pink panther! How great! I am so getting me one of those stickers!

I must admit I am troubled that McCain was a pilot, but bottom of his class? — not really.

Two things.

(1) Larry Johnson — grow the fuck up already you pathetic attention whore. If you really would vote against America’s best interests by helping a Republican take the White House then there’s a dam good reason why we’re all better off not having you and your piss-poor judgment in the CIA anymore.

(2) I hope you folks like having seven ultraconservative right-wing justices on the Supreme Court. Civil Liberties, eh, who needs’em. So let me get this straight, because your candidate can’t be permitted to break the rules to win, then no Democrat deserves to be in the White House? Way to cut off your nose to spite your face folks.

So ladies, purchase your burqas now while they’re cheap, because the American Taliban will be coming for you if McSame is allowed to become president and he gets his paws on the Supreme Court and the rest of the federal judiciary.

Just to make it clear I’m not a us citizen. I live in the Eurasian continent.

We have a great affection for the US over here. You have done great things for the world in the past. But the Bush adm. has so clearly shown us how dangerous it is to have only one super power with corrupt leadership.

Luckily for most of us (unfortunately not for the Iraqis) Bush has exposed how weak the US has become and how it is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Even the current crisis is mostly happening in the US while the rest of the world goes about its normal business.

In my personal opinion is that if you want US to regain its importance in the future you should accept that Obama won and go for a democratic president.

But apparently the current state of affairs is well deserved and an expression of the true nature of your nation – at least if the comments here are representative.

My first prediction is McCain wins, Halliburton will steal billions more of public $, KBR will do the same, Cheney and Co. will continue to funnel public fundings into their private projects. Tax cuts for the rich – no health care for Middle America – sub par health care for the troops. Schooling even more expensive – foreclosures at an even higher rate than what you experience today.

My second prediction is that several states will seek to loosen their ties with the union. The reasons will be
1) public health care – they will create their own solutions,
2) climate change legislation (now hindered by Bush)
3) The National Guard – states will want full control over their young volunteers – they don’t want to see them send overseas and extended indefinitely.

This is what you’ll be voting for when you vote McCain.

If the next election can be judged by the past two elections America WILL be voting for that exciting future.

So why does a foreigner care about the US election? Well I’m old enough to have felt the importance of US rebuilding Europe after WWII. So somehow I wish for Americans to be able to live prosperous and peaceful lives – I want Americans to be loved and looked upon with admiration by the rest of the world. This was mostly the case until the Republicans showed their true face with the Iraq invasion. Now that is all but gone. But not only that, your wealth and influence is melting away at an alarming speed. That’s wy it is so hard for me (and for most other non-americans) to understand why such destructive and suicidal policies can win any votes at all.

This forum, I would expect, would be against those policies but what I’m seeing is that personal sentiments takes precedent over rational thinking. You wow to support further demise of the US. As I wrote above all the bad guys are probably laughing – and trust me, if at some time it looks as if Obama is going to win they will likely voice open support for him in the hope it will destroy his chances.

like I said go just on the Flip Flop express..sore loser

I do that, too. I put on a vacant look, dab around with a dishcloth, fuss with whatever is at hand, blithering on and on at great length about nothing, smiling benignly until he caves in. It’s called The Treatment.

If I get on the “flip flop” express, then wouldn’t that make me an Obama supporter along with the last Democratic loser, John Kerry?

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You are truly a deranged and ignorant person. You rtrue colors come through with your irrational rants about him being a criminal and a delinquent. You are just making things up to justify your obviously racist feelings. While everyone who won’t vote for him isn’t a racist, with your “send him to Africa” comment you truly are. For the rest of you nutjobs, go ahead and vote for John McCain. Just don’t complain when you can’t get healthcare, pay for gas, lose a woman’s right to choose, get more Alitos on the Surpreme Court and your relatives die in Iraq ten years from now. At least you will feel better.

Except a Democratic congress will short stop him from implementing them.

Say hello to gridlock.

And Roe v. Wade will never be over turned because it would cost them GOP its evangelical base. IOW they’d have no reason to vote anymore.

I am a Hillary supporter and happen to go to McCain’s website. I watched the video McCain that he has on his website when he was a POW and how he served in Vietnam. Sacrifice he has done for the country. His son is serving in Iraq right now. When contrasted that to Obama and his accomplishments gave me a big long pause.

Even as someone who voted for democrat party line in last 3 election cycles I cannot in good faith vote for Obama over McCain.

> Then your opinion is worthless to me. Sorry

Don’t feel sorry, it’s fine with me.

Of course, my opinion doesn’t count as part of your election. But i think we all need friends.

Under the Republicans the US has been excessively good at loosing their friends. You are at the moment little by little being decoupled from the world economy and the incentive to help you out is being undermined by Bush’s inflationary policies and the war. At the same time you have lost in economical strength and in military strength. In such times you really want good friends.

That’s why it is difficult to understand that any American (except the very rich) would support such policies.

Which bad guys? There are no good guys.

You wouldn’t happen to be a member of Hamas, would you? Depending on Obama’s friendship?

I’m sure some of you will actually vote for John McCain. Okay.

But those who do that might as well admit that they’d just as well vote for George Bush. McCain’s voted the Bush position 95% of the time in 2007 and 100% of the time in 2008. He plans to *never* leave Iran and to attack Iraq.

Are you really willing to see the military, financial, environmental damage done, because the anger in you is *that* extreme? You need to step back and take a careful look at what you’re contemplating. Then, at least go take a look at Obama’s positions on his website, or some of his speeches. Whatever decision you make, you need to do it seriously and with attention to the lives you will harm, as people lose their jobs, health care, and lives as the result of a McCain presidency.

Please remember how important this decision is, and approach it with wisdom and reflection.

Thank you.

> You wouldn’t happen to be a member of Hamas, would you? Depending on Obama’s friendship?

!??

You lost me there – was that an inside joke?

> Which bad guys? There are no good guys.

Well, take a look around the world – I mean the World (that one outside the US) and see who benefited and who lost during the Republican rule.
Putin is stronger than ever
China is stronger than ever
Iran is stronger than ever
Hamas is stronger than ever (even Israel is now talking to them – they know have no choice)
Hezbollah is stronger than ever
Kazai of Afghanistan is cooperating with Taleban against the will of the US
AlQaeda is having a great time in Pakistan

Do you think all those ‘nice guys’ would want a democratic president?

But if he looks like winning they will publicly voice support for him in the hope he looses.

You can take a look around your home world as well and see who gained and who lost during those years. Halliburton, KBR excelling in raping female workers and then getting massive war contracts.

So my question still remains: Why would an ordinary American vote for such policies?

ALL THE DISGUSTING THINGS THIS MAN SEEMS TO HAVE INVOLVED

This sentence sums up your collective derangement. You are falling under a spell of god’s own party that will result in mccain being elected.

and he is on the record: as appointing judges that will overturn roe v wade and crimmilize your medical decisions. he is on the record to leave your children, spouses and parents as clay pigeons in the middle of a civil war for a hundred years. his family derives their income from marketing alcohol to your children. and if obama selects The Honorable Janet Napolitano Governor of Arizona will you also turn your back on her?

what exactly are the values this new party of yours stands for?

i live in michigan. i was robbed by gov granholm of my vote along with 1.8 MILLION democratic michigan voters beyond the paultry 600K that voted in an event that the DNC had already declared would not count. there were no deleagtes awarded out of this event. there were no delagtes to ‘take’ from hillary as she had no delegates. the fair approach would have been to split the delegates.

Wow. What petulant behavior. The Democratic Party is better off without people like you in our (ever growing) big tent. Have fun with the misogynist, racist, war mongering lunatics in the McCain camp!

Sincerely,

A real Democrat.

I cant think of any better way for you guys to show those Obamatons than to condemn America’s poor women to die in back-alley abortions. Truly a fitting and appropriate tribute to America’s first viable female candidate.