Obama’s Nomination Feels Like O.J. Just Got Off
By Sugar on June 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM in Current Affairs
Only this time, I’m not happy. Yes, I was one of those idiots who nearly danced in the streets, missing one of my classes during my sophomore year of college to watch the O.J. Simpson trial verdict.
I was one of those who was happy he got off because, "We [meaning Blacks] never get off! Let him get off!" It was only many years later that I grew mature enough [I was 18 or 19 years old during that time...] to realize that we were all wrong to celebrate that verdict because as sure as God made Moses, "The Juice" was guilty as hell.
A woman and her companion were killed viciously at the hands of a madman and we all celebrated–in a show of Black unity. But, look at what that got us. O.J. didn’t give a shit about us. We were rallying around that block head, shouting "If it don’t fit, you must acquit" and all of that other jazz, but we were being foolish and pigheaded. Johnnie Cochran was doing his job as a defense attorney….
Same as O.J., Barack Obama doesn’t give a shit about Black America. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care all that much about any of America in fact.
He wants power. He used those folks in Chicago to get power there and same as I told you months ago that he would toss them aside when he was done–he has. Now, he will attempt to woo the American electorate as a whole, but his negatives will beat him to the finish line.
The DNC had no business shoving him down the throats of this party with as many negatives as he has. The greatest saving grace that this country has is that John McCain is the Republican nominee and not somebody like Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. If, when the final vote is cast at the Convention in August, Obama is the official nominee, I will once again hang my head in shame of this party and just like O.J., Obama will be getting away with a crime. He is guilty of misleading his supporters into believing he is something he is not and just like with O.J., we will all be forced to admit that soon enough.
He had no business declaring himself the nominee last night when he had not won enough pledged delegates to truly win the nomination and certainly not when Hillary has the lead in the popular vote. This should have been taken to the Convention to be decided. Obama has so many negatives attached to his swizzlestick of a body, the Republican Attack Machine (R.A.M.) won’t even have to expend too much energy to make him look bad.
What say you Hillfans!? My emotions are all over the place. One minute, I feel like "take it to the convention!!" The next minute I feel like Dan suggested in the comments and I figure Hillary should just tell Obama to go fuck himself and let him beg for her supporter’s votes over the next few months, sit back and watch him get his ass kicked in November and then she can make another run for it in 2012. Then, the final minute of it all, I feel like if I were her, I would again tell Obama to go fuck himself where joining forces full time is concerned, feign support for him and do a smidgen of campaigning on his behalf and start thinking about running for the position of Governor of New York and give presidential politics my ass to kiss. Who knows what Hillary will ultimately decide, but I can tell you what Sugar already knows. I won’t vote for Obama as president for anything in this world. He could have Al Gore as his running mate and nothing doing for me. It’s my vote and I get to use it however in the hell I please and I can promise anyone who cares to inquire, it won’t be for Barack Hussein Obama. –SUGAR
on sale for only $16.95.
also comes with a special spatula.)
(List Price: $27.95 - Your Price: $15.47)
“The story of poker is that of risk-loving America ... a crazy ride in unparalleled detail, driven by wit, wisdom, true love, and sizzling style. As analyst, historian, devotee, and no mean player, James McManus is poker’s most eloquent advocate.”
By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
What a sad and angry man, you really are pathetic.
Not only are these people writing this garbage not black, they have become less able to hide among angry democrats because there aren’t very many left.
Now that Hillary and the majority of her backers are firmly supporting Obama, the operation Chaos holdovers are sticking out like a sore thumb.
coming to this site and costing larry money by refreshing the page about 50 times before I leave makes watching the public, humiliating meltdown of larry the liar all the more savory.
The anonymous army of truth tellers have beaten you again larry.
HAHAHA
Oh she’s an AA all right, you moron. You ought to hear her stories of what some of you assholes did to her for having a Hillary bumper sticker on her car, you frigging Marxist lunatics. One more reason we will NEVER vote for your Plastic Marxist Jesus: He is just like you.
Sugar — I hear you and I feel just what you’re feeling. Obama and his wife have made whitey comments but there is a video out there in which he’s making fun of black people too. On the one hand we have John McCain who has done everything right — he went to war because his country called him — he was tortured for 5 years–he spent 26 years in the Senate and he is bringing that life experience to the Senate. As his opponent we have an opportunist who will do anything or say anything to win. He has no experience and he has never accomplished anything in his life. We just have to hope the people see things the way you and I do — and vote for the real man.
“but there is a video out there in which he’s making fun of black people too.”
Please elaborate. Is this true?
As an Obama-hating AA I’d like more info on this.
Yeah…..
I’m an AA and I wanna see!
Pleeeeeeeese???
I tend to believe Sugar. At blackagendareport.com, which is an independent black news site, African Americans are divided about Barack Obama. There is an intelligent, civil blogger conversation going on regarding the various articles.
Well, well, well isn’t this a turn up for the books.
Black people admitting they’re wrong for race baiting OJ to get him off a murder wrap, and race baiting a dimwit into POTUS.
If I remember correctly, OJ was accepted into America’s heart and homes, hell, we even let him marry a White Women! (snark), and what do we get? Him brutally killing her like some pathetic “Yago”, and the Black community threatening riots if he were to get convicted.
Gee where have we seen that before
Well Sugar I’m glad you’ve grown up finally.
Shame it’s too late AGAIN!
SUGAR IS 100% CORRECT.
It is a horrible feeling.
I cannot stand to see him on TV, and
instantly switch channels.
Chicabo hoods have taken over the party.
You could tell something was wrong the way
our blogs all turned hate mongering.
Listen President Obama Bullshit Artist, how the hell do you know who Sugar is in the first place. Here you are posing with this ridiculous name as President Obama. The only thing you are president of is your prick.
It’s a pretty small constituency to be president of.
There are very many of us left, punk and we are never going to vote for hussein. You will get a rude awakening in November.
Now that Hillary and the majority of her backers
Financial backers, you mean - and they’re doing it not only because Hillary asked them to, but because of this fact: despite having ten times as many donors , he only managed to raise about 60% more money, showing that compared to hers, his donors aren’t exactly dedicated.
are firmly supporting Obama
But the majority of her rank-and-file voters are not.
(And by the way, Operation Chaos is a Rush Limbaugh thing; neither Hillary nor her supporters have anything to do with it. Way to toe the Obamabot line by repeating the phony meme about her being a secret Republican, though.)
“The majority of her backers firmly support him?” What planet do you live on?
majority of hillary supporters backing obama?
where??
beware of paid bloggers!!!!
What empirical data do you and the AP have for your assuming that Hillary voters are going to Bambi. This one is going to work for Bob Barr. That way I am working against McCain without having to support a punk like Bambi
Hey Sad Ass, Sugar is an AA woman.
SAD…. you name says it all …you are the one who is sad.
Sugar is angry…perhaps and with good reason! I am too!
And I agree with Sugar 150%!!!!
I will NOT cast a vote for Obama…..even if HILLARY is on the ticket!
I don’t want her on the ticket… I don’t want her campaigning for him either.
Speaker of the House…..or….. Governor of New York….then President in 2012.
Wow, comparing OJ and Obama. I wonder how low you will sink in your hatred. Why not perform a symbolic lynching of Obama ? or why not burn a big cross on his lawn ?
Hey, they are both Con Artists.
SO?
You remarks are very childish. You probably check under your bed every night for the bogeyman.
Amen!!
It’s becoming increasingly clear that a lot of you are just racist.
No my dear. Something tells me that you are being bamboozled.
Oh, and telling people that if they don’t vote for your candidate you must be racist will not win many general elections.
I’m talking about the people who write racist comments, not Hillary supporters in general.
Stick your race card. If I can’t have any respect from you, you can’t get any from me. I owe you about 50 sicko comments just for all the times one of you called me a c*nt. So shove it.
“…people who write racist comments.”
You mean, like Wright, Pfleger, and Farrakhan, Walter?
It is increasingly clear that many of the Obamanates are preoccupied with racism the way the fundies are with lust. Compensation. Displacement. Projection. or whatever such things are called these days.
Motes and beams; gnats and camels
It is quite sad to listen to Hillary Clinton supporters. Clinton had a good campaign, she got the votes, put in the work, and gain a lot of support. No doubt about it. However, she is not innocent by no shape or form; she is not a victim here. She is just the loser. She lost. You guys sit here and whine, bitch and moan when you don’t win. It’s like looking at a bunch of 5 year olds crying because someone got a bigger piece of pie. Fact is the DNC did what they were pressured to do by Clinton supporters. Mich. and Florida primaries were flawed. Question is why wasn’t Mich. and Flor. a problem before Super Tuesday? B/c Hillary believed she was going to win and she sadly didn’t. Finally if you all were serious democrats, then you would rally behind the DNC and its candidate. Your choice, Hillary Clinton, is a true democrat and in the end her loyalty is with the DNC, where is yours?
“she is not a victim here. She is just the loser. She lost. You guys sit here and whine, bitch and moan when you don’t win.”
Yeah - just like you online Obama scumbags did back in January when Hillary beat him in New Hampshire.
“I’ll NEVER vote for that damn Clinton!”
“I’ll vote for McCain if that b—- gets the nomination!”
“I’m sick of the Bush/Clinton dynasty!!”
“Billary needs to step down so Captain Obama can save America!!!”
Go kick rocks, drink some more of that tainted Kool-aid and watch Obama’s crushing loss in November. And leave the grown folks alone.
“go kick rocks…”
Lmao!!! You just proved my point of acting like a 5 year old. I find it interesting you went to the ‘kool-aid’. Anyways, you know what I got my champagne chilling when OBAMA takes the nomination.
Yep.
And be ready to cry in a beer on November 5.
Have fun!
She who laughs last, laughs best.
Oh - and in case you didn’t get the memo:
MANY of Hillary’s supporters have already left and/or will leave the Democratic party. The DNC cheated, lied and stole for Obama. And now they have him. But they don’t have US anymore.
Party loyalty is DEAD.
well, if that is the case, and if (and this is a huge if) when McCain wins and goes against everything Hillary, Obama, and the DNC wanted don’t cry a river because you voted for McCain.
Spare me.
We’ve survived eight years of that inexperienced Bush clown. We’re NOT about to suffer through another four years of that inexperienced Obama clown.
At least John McCain is an experienced, moderate Republican. Plus there will be a Democratic Congress in place for balance.
I have a question, what is it about Obama that you don’t like as a Clinton supporter? The agendas of Clinton and Obama are quite similar, there is like a paper thin difference. I am just wondering why there is a bandwagon movement of Clinton supporters to the Republican side. Would you have voted for Obama if the whole Michigan and Florida ordeal hadn’t occur?
The bully thuggery of many in Obama’s campaign is just like Bush’s loyalty young idiotic republicans bullies and christian coalition nuts. Exactly the same.
Obama is responsible for his ‘people’s actions. Obama is a shady character who steals not only ‘words’ but votes too.
The Left extreme is just as dangerous as the right extreme and the villifying of Hillary is proof. And there are so many other facts that have proven to me that Obama is not qualified for president.
TL22 there are major differences between Bambi and Hillary. Hillary is for real Universal health care Bambi is for the insurance companies status quo (high premiums and excluding people with preexisting conditions). Hillary will defend Social Security and Medicare. Bambi uses Republican talking points when he addresses these issues in addition to using Republican talking points when he speaks about labor and Unions.
Country first, party second. Political parties have no Constitutional standing; so as far as the parties go, you might as well be loyal to your local country club.
And you shouldn’t be so smug about your candidate “winning” by taking votes from Senator Clinton and other candidates. It’s about honest elections and counting all the votes of We the People and not repeating the mistakes of the 2000 election that gave us Bush.
Unfortunately, large segments of both the Republican and Democratic parties seem to feel they don’t have to put country before party. Which is why we’ll take the lesser of two evils and vote for the guy the Republican party rejected in favor of George W. Bush. And that’s enough appeal considering that both Obama and Bush got their “nomination” by the same devious methods.
I agree country does come first and party second. That is the very reason I feel Obama is the best candidate, not because he is black or he can inspire a nation. I believe that he has the ideals that I have and that he will fight for the views that I take to heart. Now you may call me foolish, that he is lying and etc., but I can only go by what I think is best. Just as you will do. If you feel that McCain is more qualified and will carry out your views and the agenda Clinton you supported, then more power to you– vote for McCain.
About the whole stealing votes, I wish the DNC wouldn’t have done anything so both would be at level ground. In the end Michigan and Florida were flawed and the DNC tried to look towards the future by trying to appease Michigan and Florida.
For you to parallel Obama and Bush is a cheap and unsupported claim. Bush went into the white house with the intention of going to war in order to retaliate against the man who tried to kill his father. Obama is here as a candidate to bring the ideals and agenda of the American people to the forefront. He is worried about the domestic issues and bringing the troops home.
If you felt I was smug I was wrong, I don’t believe acting in such a way but I find it disheartening and it angers me to see such things said like the article above and comments on this page.
And to the comment of why i am on this blog, I’m interested in what everyone has to say. It is a free country you are free to write what you want, so am I.
TL22,
I like your post about bitching and moaning. I implore you not to crawl back under your rock. We need you to remind us day after day why it is so important to stand steadfast for Hillary. If we give up our watch, you and your ilk will have jet another victory over democracy, moral standing and courage.
In the mean while you can read the rules of the Democratic Party and there you may discover that
1.The punishment of halving the votes of the Michigan and Florida delegates was against their own rules after both states showed good faith efforts to remedy the rule-braking by offering re-vote. It was your idol who prevented that, thus effectively ending any punishment.
2.The RBC had no authority to re-allocate the Michigan delegates. Hillary won 73 delegates, the rest was ‘uncommitted’. ‘Uncommitted’ is recognized by the Democratic Party just like if it was a real person. It should have been left as such. There were a few delegates won by other candidates. How did those end up in BO’s pocket?
3.BO took off his name from the ballot by his own political decision. It was a mistake that can not be fixed now.
4.If the delegates would have been allowed as they should, Hillary Clinton would have had the lead in pledged delegates.
5.Hillary won the popular vote. If I remember correctly, GW Bush lost the popular vote against Al Gore. If you were out of your diapers in 2000, you can remember the Democrat’s outrage over that.
6.Against the rules of the Democratic Party, votes were cast in secret, after lunch and the proceedings were according to the results of those votes. There are references made to those votes. Donna Brazile said that “we had the votes”…. The rules don’t allow secret voting. It has to be public. This makes the RBC decision invalid. Just like it never happened.
Hillary may be forced to support BO in the general election campaign. This is the ultimate humiliation of Hillary Clinton and her supporters as well.
The BO administration would be built on dead bodies (metaphorically speaking). GW Bush and Karl Rove has committed much fewer rapes on our democracy. They fixed only Florida.
Obama is a very dangerous man.
Our country, our democracy need our fighting spirit.
Why are you here and obsessed with Hillary? If your guy won you should be off enjoying it, raising money for him and doing other things. Why this fascination with Hillary supporters? It’s bizarre that there are Obama trolls here, especially now after the DNC has declared it is over.
You are a fine example of a low-information prospective voter. Your “information” comes straight out of the mouths of the “expert” talking heads on cable “news”.
My question is, why are all of the pundits still talking about Sen. Clinton? Furthermore, why are BO devotees still talking about her? You will get no satisfaction here. You can’t win us over through intimidation.
BO got what he wanted, you got what you wanted. Now get up off your bum and do something to help your chosen one get elected.
BTW-She wouldn’t ask for, nor take, the VP spot, so don’t worry your little heads off.
I’m having a hard time understanding why BO supporters are still here and spewing hate. Hillary’s voters are the most important people in politics right now. McCain wants us. Obama wants us. We will decide this election so we have power. Where is your power? What can you do to change the outcome?
In November you will see a revolt that will turn the Democratic Party on it’s head. Harriett Christian, Geraldine Ferraro and several million other women will make our voices heard. We are leaving the Party by the hundreds and taking our financial support with us. A report from Denver; The Convention Committee has raised only half of the forty million needed.
Obama wants Hillary’s financial supporters too. Months and months of accusing Hillary of taking money from special interest groups and now he wants their help. The media and the DNC want Hillary to go away, but she has close to 2,000 delegates. They can’t force her to release them and even if she does, they cannot force them to vote for Obama.
Their worst nightmare. The rules call for a first vote without superdelegates and he will not have the required number. No one can stop that. They will call for a vote by aclimation and they will not get that either because Hillary and her supporters have been called names and disrespcted. This isn’t just about Hillary. It is about Geraldine Ferarro and every woman who is sick to death of Obama, the DNC and their supporters.
It is so clear some who are full of venom and arrogance know nothing about the real process. Why do you think they keep talking about party unity and Obama is saying nice things about Hillary and Bill Clinton? Makes me want to vomit.
elise
As bad as you think it is, I think it’s worse. Here’s my take on your comments:
BO supporters are still here for two reasons. First, they need to slow their opponents down. The more time spent in answering their “comments” the less time available to work towards thwarting their success.
Second, in answering their comments they keep the communication on their terms. The responses are to their statements and questions. This provides two-fold success:
… a) The responder is “stuck” trying to figure out why they don’t understand logic, and simultaneously diverts needed brain power from developing ways to truly defeat them. In the worst case scenario, such as the 24/7 news propaganda the recipient of the information begins to think it’s true.
… b) They get information they need. As we all know, information is power. Without knowing what is planned they are blind when planning to prevent it from public acceptance. They need an army of people reporting back what’s being said in the blogosphere and elsewhere so they can have spin prepared in advance to stop the masses from knowing what’s really happening.
Third, they will continue to attack Hillary. It’s not just that they want her fundraisers. They need her negatives maintained in the public arena. If Hillary were viewed in a positive light, it’s easier to expose Obama and have the public accept her as the nominee. He must be the sympathetic character, he must be the “anointed one.”
Fourth, if I am right about all of the above they will prevent the first vote without Super Delegates from happening if they have to. They will wave their RBC wand as they did a week ago to accomplish this. Already yesterday Cafferty was ballistic that Clinton wasn’t turning over all her delegates to Obama. Perhaps they’ll find they can spin that effectively enough to have the public demand she do it. That’s a tough one, but who knows?
Finally, while I agree with you that we have the voting power, I won’t provide “them” with my thoughts on what obstacles and challenges we face in wielding it effectively from now through November. Nor am I willing to say what might work best against them. If this post has meaning to any who oppose Obama’s quest for the Presidency I hope there’s enough food for thought here for everyone to come up with their own ideas. And if they’re good ones, I certainly would use a telephone and face-to-face meetings, not the internet, when developing a course for their implementation.
Sugar is a black blogger, dumb kool aid drinking fuck. Is that all you cult followers have when someone don’t like your false idol they’re racist?
Thank you!
I am an African American who will NOT vote for Obama in November either.
Am I racist too, hun??
So many racists here, I can’t believe it! /snark
BTW glad to be here and meet all of you. For months I’ve been at TalkLeft and TaylorMarsh. But since they’re now going to be “party loyalists”, they’re going to follow Obama (after MONTHS of bashing him…non sequitur, if I ever saw one). I have also been reading around on the internet and frequently stop by BlackAgendaReport.com. I have to admit that I’m a fresh little Hispanic boy, so I’ve got to ask…are there any other “black” sites that “dare” to criticize Obama/hold him to real scrutiny other than BAR? I would like to read more (and more…). I find this whole election season fascinating, in terms of race and gender and politics in general. Thanks! — John
Walter — go away ok?
walter go stick youer head in the sand pleeese
No, we are not racists. By the way, as far as I know, Obama is an Arab-American not an African-American.
I don’t think this is too important, he might want to belong somewhere and this is his choice. I can respect that.
Nonetheless I have this terrible nagging feeling that he became black to further his political ambitons, and not because he feels so very black.
I feel sorry for you guys who are so awestruck by him. The let down will be a heart braking experience for you.
The Luo aren’t Arab.
Walter put your glasses on and visualize people who march to the beat of a different candidate!
That’s right play the racist card again. Play victim again. Attack in a passive aggressive manner. That is the hallmark of an Obama campaign. That B.S helped propel Obama towards the Democratic nomination, especially with far-left liberals besotted with white guilt. That will not play as well in the fall campaign. And it will further drive a wedge between women and Obama. Nice move, sweetie.
Umm Sugar is an AA, is it possible to be racist against your own race? I don’t think so.
Those of us with a history here on NQ know each other, it’s always amusing to see the ‘generic american guy named obama supporters’ who come here and accuse us of being racist without having a clue what race we are.
To call people racist based upon the fact that they don’t vote for your candidate is a stupid tactic. But then Obamabots are not known for their intellect.
To cry bloody murder because your candidate lost is a better tactic?
And a person can be racist against their own race, if you look at the history of blacks in the south you would know about the brown paper bag test, sororities, fraternities, and social balls. I didn’t want to talk about race but I couldn’t let that stupid comment go by.
i can’t believe you guys…
a man that wants to be president of the united states of america is stealing votes…
and has a mindblowing history of working with the sleaziest political machine this country has ever seen…
and this is the stuff you guys want to talk about???
sweet baby jesus…
lol*….I’m guessing you’re Republican, eh? Looking forward to our “ilk” in your party?
We’ll be the ones toting all the liberal baggage. *haha
Gerard,
Your right! And what makes this situation worse is the fact that those we put in office our supposed “employees” who are paid with our tax dollars sitting on their fat asses and and allowing this asshol* to break the laws, to cheat lie and spout his racism.
What we should be doing is hitting the streets, and demand as our right to be heard. For this will take more then a vote in Nov.
Sugar, bless you darlin! You got me, there is no way I can feel the pain you have gone through or feel. And that is my loss, and many others who have never walked your path.
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH
it was dumb to dance in the streets for oj and this stance is much, much dumber.
From Talkleft.com
“Are you feeling the Unity yet? Here’s my suggestion - consider which of the remaining candidates best represents your views. Don’t let the vitriol and hatred from the supporters or the blogs decide who YOU want to vote for. To me, if you are a Democrat, believe in ending the war in Iraq, in providing fairness to our tax system, in improving our health care system, in providing a fairer society, then the choice is clear - Barack Obama is clearly superior to John McCain.”
And with all due respect, Mr. Larry Johnson, I hope you give it a long thought.
We have seen no evidence that Obama will do any of that. His record speaks for him and it isn’t good.
Why do they think adults need to be told how to decide whom to vote for? LOL*
That’s a goofy post from Talk Left. Who wrote that one?
I’m amazed at the attitude of some liberals. They treat people like children.
I am not speaking on behalf of Mr. Johnson, but speaking for myself -
“With all due respect?”
When was any respect shown to Hillary supporters especially women supporters. I guess bros before hos is respectful.
On so many levels Obama/Marxist if not qualified to be president. I am tired of having to qualify every statement about him by saying firs “I swear my decision to not vote for him is not based on his race.” He is not qualifed to be anywhere near the White House.
What about Ed Schultz he gets on tv and really sweetens his talk about Hillary and her supporters and then when he gets on Air America he is the biggest most vile person - Air America what will happen to them after the election. They were barely hanging on before and when Obama/Marxist loses I hope it is the end of that lame lineup. Randi Rhodes? So what is the talk about unity crap there has been no unity for a long time.
To the Obama/Marxist here go away. We don’t post on pro-Obama/Marxist sites so why are you here?
If you have it so sewed up and can win without us go on vacation til November. What? You can’t that’s right because you will never win without 18 million of Hillary supporters. Even if you got half it would still not be enough.
Go away and support “HIS” party. Instead of giving money to the DNC I will send all donations to any and every website that is actively involved in keeping the Marxist out of the White House.
There are many voting age members of my family in many states who will all vote McCain and we are only one family. There are so many more.
We are now angry farmers who are very proud of our small town. Donna Brazile go to hell. You may be able to get a job in the kitchen since you always talking about your cooking. Cook this bitch - VOTE MCCAIN 2008.
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008
A guy starts off talking about feminism, aanad then uses the phrase “cook this, bitch.” Sounds not unlike the e-mail Larry sent to the editor of a significant libertarian magazine, “fuck off.”
Larry could redeem himself by naming his sources and then exposing them as having used him to spread a bullshit rumour.
And “whitey” is not racist, Obama is not Marxist (I wish he was, but he’s middle of the road)..And you people need to move on, as it were.
Whitey is just as racist as blackey which any self respecting AA would punch you in the mouth for.
In 96 Obama campaigned for and received the backing of the “New Party” a Marxist political coalition.
If you don’t understand the difference between the two, then you’re beyond hope. To put it in more reasonable terms, Black folks (my wife’s family is Black and think the term “AA” is nonsense) continue to live in a largely white supremacist society. To deny this after Katrina, etc. is bullshit. So the use of the phrase “whitey” is completely understandable as a signifier for the society that let Katrina take place.
I’m Black and I don’t use the word “whitey” and it’s never understandable to use it.
So you think you live in a non-racist society? My point is tangential because the video does not exist, but it is contextualizable fact, like it or not, that minorities talk about White/Straight/Male/Goyishe, etc. society, in perjorative terms. I don’t think its intelligent, but I certainly don’t think its racist, and it says a lot that some bitter white people, suddenly aware that they are the minority, globally, find it offensive.
I realize there is racism, but to me hate is hate no matter which direction it is flowing. I don’t care about the color of someones skin. As far as I’m concerned they need to change the definition of the word nigger.(I do not mean to offend anyone with that nasty word) They need to change it to mean ANY person who’s actions prove them to be detestable to any civilized human being. IE:To me George W. Bush is one I would say that word fits! I do not support AA’s who want to tame the word into a cultural thing acceptable in their own community. The word spews a negative context, so I think it should be a non-racial negative. Thats just my opinion though and I will not use the word in the way it is currently understood.
The fact that people think like the above poster shows how much work America needs to do. Get some treatment, pal..
So in your world, people who don’t care about skin color, but care about a persons character and deeds, they need to get treatment? You make me doubly glad I do NOT live in your Obamanation.
Isn’t it funny how they always end up claiming a black relative? Is that the same as “some of my best friends are”?
Exactly. It’s compensation projection. It’s very much like the Fundie gay basher who likes to visit bath houses on vacation.
Oh.. I see, “society” and the “white supremists” were to blame for Katrina? Hmmm.. I’m part of that society you and your wife’s family blames for Katrina, and yet.. there I sat, thousands of miles away from it, with tears and outrage at how everyone in New Orleans was treated by the Bush Administration.
If you can get that chip off your shoulder, like the one Michelle Obama has, you’d actually look at the majority of donations, volunteers, and angels of mercy, that helped as best they could in the Katrina crisis. It was that damn “society” that you have deemed “white supremists.”
Some people are too far left for their own good… they try to out liberal each other for some sort of prize of feeling superior. You’re like a liberal supremist actually.
I’m no liberal. I’m a socialist. Its no accident that the UN is investigating rn America right now. The intentionally ignorant reaction - and the lack of right-of-return for New Orleanians gentrified out of their city by the white-friendly “renewal” is objectively white supremacist. No intelligent person denies that. America, built on slavery and genocide, is still a racist society. This is not even trivial.
They have to take that position catriley. If they look to the truth, they are forced to admit that while their Obamessiah made over $1.5 million in 2005, he could not bother to donate 1 dime to Katrina relief, but did find thousands of dollars for his racist church.
Don’t tell me where to move, including “on” toosky. Who gives a shit what you think? As a matter of fact, we are moving on. We just aren’t moving in Barky’s direction. And you know what? That’s just none of your goddamn business.
I couldn’t give a shit, as long as you’re happy. You seem very unhappy.
Only when I am with you and yours.
And “whitey” is not racist, Obama is not Marxist (I wish he was, but he’s middle of the road)..And you people need to move on, as it were.
————————
Um, I don’t know what planet you live on.
But here on Earth in America, “whitey” is DEFINITELY a racist term. Just like the other racist terms that truly anger me as a Black person.
Bingo. There is no due respect and I have none.
noobama/marxist — I totally agree. They come in here and insult us in order to get us to change our minds. Go away fools–you love Obama you can keep him.
harp — Obama would be the superior candidate if he wasn’t such a liar. Why do you trolls come in here — We are not going to change our minds. This is like giving OJ a pass. It sucks big time. Obama is a fraud and why the Democrats want to go over a cliff for him is their problem — but its Obama’s problem if the rest of us won’t follow.
The author of your quote has supported Barak Obama from the very beginning. And the only reason he did was because he called Obama a “media darling.”
Larry Johnson isn’t as foolish as BTD.
Obama is clearly superior to John McCain.
Only when it comes the amount Bull Shit BO peddles.
Won’t work. Sorry.
Man, you people are really desperate.
Obama will almost certainly become POTUS. So what? The world won’t end. I know, he’s black. Can’t do anything about that. But, you’ll get over it. And, I know he’s liberal. But, you’ll get over that, too. Bush gave us two inconclusive wars, a wrecked economy, and a frontal attack on civil liberties we fought the Revolution for — not to mention the most corrupt administration in American history. Don’t worry, it won’t be worse. We lived through a generation of venal, incompetent Republicans. You can survive the Democrats. You’ll be back in power soon enough. Get a grip.
If we are so desperate, then why are you over here trying to convince us to vote Obama? I think you know without us, he is in trouble.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
The states Obama “won” in the primary will go to McCain in the fall, the Republicans got what they want a Democrat heavy on speech light on the record and his core group of supporters are black people who make up only 13% of the population and the Latino vote wipe out any advantage there because McCain would only need between 7 to 8 percent to vote for him and those southern states that do have a high black population he’s still losing there when it’s a general election match up vs McCain, The douche bag vote which are feature these two groups the liberal elite and college kids vote if they actually vote. The map doesn’t look good for him to count on states like Virginia and Colorado to counter the potential lost in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana is a risk granted Virginia has elected Democratic governors and Jim Webb here’s where the problem lies Jim Webb barley beat George Allen even with all his problems so the Obama folks shouldn’t feel super confident and those govs have that type of appeal that people in that state like and thanks to Obama’s comments and knowing how right wing radio works those good folks are going to hear those comments about 9 million times from now to election night eve.
The alienation/ burning bridge factor Obamabots have pretty much ensure that if Clinton supporters do jump aboard on the good ship Obama will be either low in numbers or you’re going to get those luke warm Clinton supporter who didn’t really care so you won’t see that much of expansion in support for Senator Obama. And the rate of progressive anti Obama blogs have grown you Obama followers will be fighting a battle on two fronts the right wing ones going for his throat and the progressive ones going for his knees. Another factor the media the only casts of characters that been discuss by the media are Obama pastors, the only time you heard about Arkers(sp) and Rezko were in the debates where their names were only mention… I wonder how middle America would react if the guy they might vote for was employee of domestic terrorist and known flag stomper and I wonder how black America would react knowing Obama was getting funded by a guy that gave black people real crappy housing to live. Even the most dense black Obama follower can’t defend that even the defense of well he didn’t now what Rezko was doing is pretty lame.
And as for the tape I for one believes there is a tape due to recent events of members of team Obama saying stupid things while the cameras on rolling so this wouldn’t be any different. And as for the zombies roaming around screaming where’s the tape, where the tape? The GOP has it and knowing how they work they’re waiting for the right time to rip out the hearts of team Obama… Some say they’re going to do it in August but if I was on that team I want until October 31 to drop that racist rant ad on every prime time show from O’Reilly to even Countdown with Knee pad… I mean Keith Olbermann and the network channels.
And as Paul Krugman wrote few months ago it was a warning to the Obama cult whatever treatment Hillary Clinton received during the primary your guy is going to get it twice as worst… So anytime you cheer someone “taking” it to Clinton, that person will be taking it to Obama.
Face Obama nation the corporate media and the GOP have played you, you gave them what they wanted someone that they can beat. Before you go well prove it, remember the so called progressive media talking point of Rush getting his listeners to vote for Hillary in Ohio and Texas? Other then exit polls of showing Republicans switching to vote for Hillary there is no other proof to back up that claim and since they’re using that as proof then they shouldn’t brag about the Republican vote that Obama attracts. Anyway here’s my proof and it’s first hand no I heard it from this person and that person heard it from the other person. In Mississippi the Republicans invited Obama and not only they set up his speaking engagement there but the Republicans help turned out the black vote for Obama. This doesn’t sound like the same party in the past two presidential elections tried to reduce the black vote.
So with that said I’ll see you Obama supporters in 2012 when we actually try to get a Democrat elected.
They didn’t mind letting the Republicans help Obama beat Clinton. So it’s very hypocritical for them to cry about Republicans now.
Larry Johnson should start a pool of when the corporate media will turn on Obama. I pick June 20th that’s gives them enough time when the news of Clinton dropping out becomes old. And going back to a point I made on “Softball” with Tweety they show an electoral map John McCain is already at 220 and Obama is hoovering around 188 or 199. And the fact Obama needs a huge black voter turn out in southern states to even give him a short begs the question instead of having an person you already know it could attract vote in states you need why then roll the dice with a guy who might win IF high turn out in two groups of people not all blacks vote Democratic and not all blacks support Obama and the youth vote could backfire. And New Jersey is a toss up with Obama on the top of the ticket because jews in the northern part of the state are not feeling him.
Michigan could be at risk because John Kerry only beat Bush by a few points and if Clinton supporters around these parts are piss they might vote McCain or stay home.
Mr X. When we want any shit from you, we will squeeze your head. Mkay?
ROFL!
There are more trolls on here than real people.
boring.
Obama will almost certainly become POTUS. So what? The world won’t end.
BO will not be POTUS for the very reason Sugar states with such clarity.
National security fear is greater than “white” guilt. It is way more the tongue of the lizard brain.
That said, bigotry is to be condemned WHERE ever it thrives. It does not matter if it is at St. Sabina Trinity or any other form. BO intentionally creating a wedge out of it speaks to what he is.
If the glove (shoe) fits wear it. There will be no aquittal here.
BO slapped his wife’s butt on National TV when he got on stage the night of the South Dakota primary…go figure.
And finally I want to give Sugar props for her guts and the strength of her convictions. BO has left a wake of “racial crap” that other members of the community find disgusting and will be required to clean up after. It will take decades.
.
BO is not going to do this and as his own wife said is not good picking up after himself.It is about human beings BO does not know this. He let them freeze and according to RedDragon let ‘em cook in the heat waves in Chicago with out lifting a finger to assist any of them…
I am not voting for anyone like that…I would vote for a wookie before that.
It’s so surreal that people keep coming onto these sites and telling us that we have a problem with Obama because he’s black. Can you see through your monitor? Do you know what color we are? Why would the black commenters here have an issue with Obama because he’s black?
You have no other defense of the guy than to label those to oppose him as racists.
Word: I don’t like Obama because he hangs out with sleazeballs, he has been involved in far too many questionable deals, and seems to have no idea who he really is. He rehashes a middle-aged white guys ideas and slogans and speeches and talks vaguities about the issues, when he’s not busy stealing other people’s ideas.
I didn’t want Obama as the nominee because the GOP will wipe the floor with him handily, based upon those sleazeball friends of his… Yes, it IS guilt by association. We ARE judged by the company we keep. Get over it.
This election should have been a cakewalk, the Democrats should have easily cruised to victory, instead we got bamboozled by Mr. I Wrote A Book, I’m a Rock Star, into a nominee that cannot past muster in a general election.
I don’t care for celebrity worship.. and I don’t give a fuck if a candidate has a ringtone, or daps his wife’s fist on stage.
Actually, YOU’RE desperate.
Because instead of being somewhere else with the rest of the Obama spawn celebrating, you’re here - posting for dear life. Trying to use Bush scare tactics/bullying on brand-new McCain Democrats.
It’s telling.
Truth is, you and the rest of the rest of the Obama clowns are terrified deep down inside. And you should be. Because John McCain just got the Presidency handed to him in a beautiful box with a bow. A gift from the DNC and Obama supporters.
The GOP will go after Obama full-force now. And all of the “hope & change” pretty words & money in the world won’t save him.
Now the fun *really* begins…..
The DNC and superdelegates don’t care any more about Obama than we do. For them, it is simple, cynical math when their only real concern– down ballot races– are considered. Millions of Hillary supporters may vote for McCain over Obama but, the thinking goes, it is unlikely they will vote straight ticket Republican and so the down ballot Democrats will pick up the Hillary votes regardless. Then, Obama is expected to bring a lot of new voters to the polls, either AAs who would not normally vote or young people who are in their Rock Star years. These people also can be expected to vote down ballot for Democrats as well. So, for anyone who cares only about being elected or getting elected as a Democrat, Obama was the pre-ordained choice. Personally, I will be very selective about all of the down ballot candidates. If they were in the tank for Obama early on, they will not get my vote. It’s not much, but if enough people feel the same way, it may make a difference.
I agree with you and will take out any Obama supporters down ticket as well as vote for McCain if he is the Dem nominee.
This logic by the DNC is flawed and has been proven so by the research done on the ballots in the Texas Democratic primary. People who voted for Bambi were much less likely to vote down ticket. Many Babmi voters only voted for Pres.
I agree with you and will take out any Obama supporters down ticket as well as vote for McCain if Obambi is the Dem nominee.
This logic by the DNC is flawed and has been proven so by the research done on the ballots in the Texas Democratic primary. People who voted for Obambi were much less likely to vote down ticket. Many BO voters only voted for Pres and left the rest blank.
Sorry for the double post.
Agreed.
The problem is, the miscalculation that the DNC has made, is that the Obama supporters have been shown to be ignoring the down ticket completely when voting for him. The emphasis on those first time voters who were “inspired” by Obama to vote… we’re only inspired to vote for HIM. They will not vote down ticket, many will not vote in November because they will be bored. They turned this into a beat-down of Hillary in order to get OBama nominated. They will NOT have the same fire and motivation against McCain, because he’s a dude.
I agree!!
We can get a list in circulation of all of the Superdelegates in elected offices throughout the country who have endorsed Obama. Put them on notice before the convention in August. Let them know that they can be fired too. After all, we DO hire them at election time & our tax dollars pay their salaries.
Your article grabbed me with its honesty. Thanks so much.
One thing that has bothered me was wondering if the AA community would have their hearts broken by this pretender. He has talent. He has charisma. And he has lied repeatedly.
I know for me, the woman running had to be really solid as gold. I’m so glad Hillary is Hillary. Even losing, I’m very, very proud of having backed her. She is worthy.
Obama may, indeed, turn out to embarass a lot of people.
What gets me is Obama will not hesitate to let the blame fly when he loses in November that it’s because American is STILL a racist country. You think we wouldn’t vote for Colin Powell?
I wouldn’t vote for Collin Powell! It has nothing to do with his skin color, but he IS a Bushite. I would have definitely voted for Barbara Jordan had she had a chance to run for President. She was all the things Barack PRETENDS to be. And one hell of a fighter!
Ya know, Powell USED to be a Democrat, back about the middle 60’s. Just goes to show that the “Roadmaster Effect” applies to nearly all, irrespective of gender, national origin or melanin level.
I would’ve voted fro Colin Powell pre-2003.
anninCa — The Republicans have a video of Obama laughing at AA voters. When that comes out it will be an eyeopener. The parties should vet the candidates. The Democratic Party will be split this year because of Obama.
I posted to you upthread. I’m really curious about this. Is it true???
Me too, S hall. I would not dought it but just saying it …
INPUT!
I’m sorry, he has as much charisma as an empty bread wrapper.
Hillary supporters heres the New McCain Hillary Supporters Welcome In http://citizens.johnmccain.com/
Good. I bet Obama’s paid bloggers will be working over time to fold us in their faux unity embrace now.
Thanks for this website, Fred!
I have at least 10 friends/relatives, all Democrats, who want to vote McCain in the fall.
They don’t want anything to do with Tootsie and her socialist friends.
I notice there are a lot of out of touch Caucasian Obama voters in this thread. Accusing an African-American woman named Sugar of racism, they fail to understand that they and their candidate are hijacking her experience. Perhaps they should view Spike Lee’s film entitled Bamboozled.
SUGAR
She was a racist when she celebrated that a black brother, a double murderer who killed two whiteys, got off. There was no moral or legal justification to celebrate that.
Now, she is merely amoral and stupid. And yes, I realize she is black, or pretends to be, but blacks can be amoral and stupid too. Surprised?
prodem — you are shameful. You don’t belong on a site with normal people. Sugar I admire your honesty–don’t pay attention to that fool.
Obama + Nomination = OBAMINATION
Heh. Good wordplay, at least.
whoa…
i can’t believe this…
i’m sure there are Obamabots that are going to go around and post crazy shit to make it look like anyone against obama is racist…
and i am sure there are a handful of upset folks out there that probably are racist…
but i want to make it clear that the color of Obama’s skin has nothing to do with why we are all here…
It is Obama’s vote stealing and sabotaging of the democratic process…
We are here today because Obama decide to steal votes last saturday…
A lot of the comments i am starting to see on this website are blantant inflamitory statements designed to get a rise out of each other…
this is not a game…
this is not a schoolyard…
you are being manipulated by Obama if you keep at this and you will lose all credibility entertaining these types of discusions and Obama will win.
please go here:
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-race-may-be-over-but-race-is-just.html
and think about how serious this shit really is…
straiten up or i’m out of here…
What makes you think Sugar is a man?Did anyone get the hint that Sugar is black? How is Sugar a racist?Because Sugar won’t vote for Obama? Same run around Obamatrons. You guys are really messed up. Check your logic and go bother some other blog.God help any of us who feels they need to vote McCain,but at least we know where he stands on real issues-not some BS fluff.
ANYONE BUT OBAMA ‘08
Only a racist black would celebrate that OJ got off after killing two people…two whiteys, too
That’s really interesting, prodem, because the greater perscentage of the black community celebrated OJ’s ‘Not Guilty’ verdict.
I should know, I was among the minority who knew he was guilty. It was practise for me and that’s how I was able to be a Hilllary supporter with no problem.
Want odds on how many of those same people who celebrated OJ’s verdict voted for Obama?
Since the percentages are 90% of the black community voted for a Obama, by your definition they are racists since they also celebrated the OJ verdict.
See it gets complicated when you peel away the layers. Like all cults, you all will be at each other’s throats before it’s all said and done.
“Politics makes strange bedfellows.” And Obama’s has bedbugs.
“Like all cults, you all will be at each other’s throats before it’s all said and done.”
You got that right, Mimi.
What really makes me mad is that all these white Obama supporters playing this race baiting game give no thought to the damage they are doing to black people. It’s black people who will suffer, it’s black people who will pay the price for all this crap. I’m already hearing about it, white people are starting to look at black people differantly. They’re getting resentful, they’re getting angry.
Please everybody, if you find yourself getting resentful about being constantly accused of racism, go kick a white Obama supporter, LOL. This crap isn’t coming from the black community.
I agree, this crap is not coming from the black community. Mostly white American Idol idiots who feel they are entitled to get their way no matter what, even if it means kicking their parents under the bus with the rest of us.
And Sugar, thank you for this diary. It is one of the most honest diaries that I have read on the blogosphere this primary season. YOU give me hope that integrity and honesty still account for something in this crazy world.
There’s no question that it’s coming from whites who could care less about the ultimate results this will have on the AA community. And that includes Obama and Michelle.
Sadly, there are also quite a few race baiting blacks, too. I would say they are in the minority, but they are still quite a few. However, the majority of blacks are simply starry-eyed and desperate, putting all of their hopes and dreams in this creep.
Mimi–
Love your “bedbugs” comment.
BTW, I have a friend who lived in Brentwood at the time, and thinks OJ’s son may have done it, and OJ covered for him.
I remember too, watching the coverage after the verdict was announced, and CNN showed the clientele of an AA beauty salon in NYC. Those women were not celebrating. They knew it wasn’t so much a black/white thing as a man/woman thing, and that once again the message was clear: if a man kills “his” woman more often than not the world figures the bitch had it coming.
LandOLincoln,
Interesting, because I always thought that the son was there and that poor Ron Goldman innocently stumbled on the murder in progress. This perhaps is where he may have played a role. But OJ killed Nicole.
The OJ verdict breaks down this way in the AA community”
1. Those who believe he is innocent.
2. Those who don’t care but believe the verdict evened the score in terms of the injustice against blacks in the crimnal justice system.
3. And those like me who know he’s guilty.
We are in the minority.
So you can imagine how much I’m loving the scenario when the ‘typical’ white Obama supporter and an AA Obama supporter ever have the OJ conversation. Boy I’d love to be there for that conversation.
Anyone who claims Hillary supporters will back Obama must be certifiable. The exit polls have shown that over 30% of Hillary supporters would not support Obama. That equals about 5,2000,000 voters. Even 10% equals 1.800,000. These are not imaginary numbers. Many Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama because of his race-bating, his sexism, his arrogance, his rudeness, his questionable associations (terrorists, indicted criminals, PLO members, Marxists, Black Liberation Theologists), his lack of experience, and his questionable ethics and lack of character. This is a no-brainer for any patriotic Americans.
Er, come on, I think Hillary should be the nominee, but equating this with double murder? A bit much?
Sugar is saying that AA’s were bamboozled by a Charismatic sports figure and wanted him to get off. She understands that getting bamboozled is wrong. Where are the latte liberals and why aren’t they equally honest?
You seem to be a person that misses the point a lot.
comment is was for ignatious
Why not use an OJ comparison? Team Obama did. Obama’s national campaign chair, Jesse Jackson Jr., said on the night Obama won Iowa: “The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”
While the traffic here at No Quarter is fantastic, I have to wonder why so many Obama supporters come here to attack those who don’t support him. They must not be confident in their candidate. If they were, they would not be here. It’s very sad that they cannot enjoy their presumptive candidate’s victory claim.
They live to hate.
Come on guys! Sugar proved she’s AA by telling us she celebrated the O.J. verdict. We all know only AA celebrated that verdict! Case closed!
Well, I am not a man. I am a woman. Oh, and isn’t “Bitch” just one of those words that its okay to say now kinda like “ho”. I am just giving back what we have been given.
So whether you are a man or woman:
Get this Bitch - why you wasting your time here? Are we getting to you so bad you have to come into our backyard. Go back to dailyidiots.
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008
I AM AN AMERICAN FIRST
This ties into Jesse Jackson, Jr’s. quote in the Washington Post article (The Conventional Wisdom Defied) last January after the Iowa win.
Jackson is quoted as saying, “The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”
Jackson is Obama’s National Campaign co-chair.
Obama never said a thing publicly to discourage this type of sexist and racist hate talk, although he condemned others for inappropriate statements.
The Democratic Party has become the party of racism and sexism, with Obama’s leadership. Just read his supporter’s statements.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010400117.html
The Only Way McCain Win if he runs against Obama, If McCain ran unopposed he would lose.
I’m so sick of these obnoxious trolls. Uppity, I wish you’d post something like the piece you did a couple of weeks ago where you told these people to f**k off. And I wish Larry could start blocking the worst ones. They really messed up one of the threads yesterday.
And I thought you and Uppity were republican trolls, acting as agent provocateurs, to deliver all the disenfranchised on this blog to McCain…
i’m glad noquarter’s around. after bo clinched the nomination a lot of people have been leaving taylor marsh.
Go to Sugar’s blog she is AA. I will do what Al Gore said in 2000.Country first,party second.
Not Hillary
McCain 08
Go to Sugar’s blog she is AA. I will do what Al Gore said in 2000. Country first,party second.
Hillary 08 if not then McCain
Thank you very much, Sugar, for your honesty and courage! I am a Hillfan and feel the same way about Obama misrepresenting himself to the country as a qualified candidate. His shortcomings will be spotlighted by the GOP and he won’t be elected. It’s too bad the DNC had to prefer him to Hillary who can withstand any scrutiny and I feel betrayed for by my party for that real stupid decision. It’s a real heads up about the Democratic party because it no longer stands for integrety–I’m from florida and Obama & Co. decided my vote/voice didn’t have to be counted! Where do we go from here? Where does Hillary go from here? I think she should be cool and not rush onto the Obama bandwagon, no matter what they offer her. He will self-destruct this fall: his racist and corrupt Chicago background will bring him down, and hopefully the democratic leadership will go down with him. What kind of phoenix will rise from these ashes?
Thanks for sharing this, Sugar. Someone said Hillary should take some time off, visit a spa, and let the Obama nastiness implode in the vacuum. What will cable teevee do without a Clinton to bash? Maybe we should all take some time off.
I agree completely with what you said about him using people.
Sugar –
First I applaud you for being yourself,holding your own POV, rather than be bullied into supporting a candidate you don’t want.
It’s harder for AA Hillary Suporters than the rest of us. You have been put through an extra dose of hell.
But you are among the 10% of AA Dems who stayed loyal to Hillary to the last day. That’s bravery. That’s testicular fortitude.
My advice: Patience.
The Clintons are politically savvy. The signs that Hillary will only do the minimum required by the party are clear.
1. She decided to announce her “support” of Obama and suspension of her campaign on SATURDAY to deny the Cable Talking heads their Friday night ratings. And she has specifically refused to officially concede. This is a calculated move.
2. Her slow withdrawal has kept the news stories around her - “What does Hillary want? What do her supporters want?” This works to her advantage. This means that she’s still running against Obama symbolically.
3. Bill Clinton has not publically responded to Obama’s statement: “I need Bill Clinton’s advice and guidance to win the general election.” Bill has remained behind closed doors of his Harlem office. This is a big message.
4. Our job is to be vocal online, in emails, on the phone, make our voices heard. Hillary does not have to threaten “On To Denver” but she has already laid the groundwork to do just that when the opportunity arises.
Although the press and Obama camp will have you beleive the entire DNC is pro-Obama, don’t believe it. Behind those closed doors, the DNC is split.
Nothing is official until the convention.
Thank you, Susan, I needed to hear that! I was thinking the same thing earlier today. Senator Clinton was very careful in her wording, “suspending” and “supporting,” which I thought was very savvy. She’s still in it, believe you me, and that’s why the Obamazoids are going nuts. And her giving out the information in bits and pieces is driving the press INSANE, which has been keeping her on the front page and O off.
At the very start of the Democratic campaigning, a friend who supported Obama sent me a mean Bill Clinton e-mail, which I answered immediately with a clip of Maya Angelou endorsing Hillary and a plea: I told her that if O is the nominee, we’re going to need Bill in the General Election against the Republicans (of course, this was before all the sh*t hit the fan with O’s behavior, the MSM’s behavior, the DNC’s behavior and all the skeletons plopping out of O’s closet). She stopped sending me e-mails, but I’m sure the heckling and abuse continued. And now O wants Bill’s support. Bill’s too much of a gentleman politician to say it, so I will, “Kiss my ass, Obama, you ain’t gettin’ sh*t out of me. I risked another heart attack for the best candidate we had and you and your DNC cronies crapped all over her. You want my support? I got your support right HERE, m*therf*cker.”
Yes, Hillary wants us to be vocal, she was our voice and now we have to be HERS!
Absolutely the DNC is split, we saw a mini-version of it on the R&B committee. If the remaining delegates were so gung-ho about O, why didn’t they come out when the Messiah claimed victory? I say, let the Republicans do our work for us…slam O with some REAL vetting between now and August. I just hope Chicago DA Fitzgerald isn’t on the take himself and that he really does go after the politicians involved in the Rezko conviction. I read a comment on another pro-Hillary blog from one Super delegate who said, “We’re just waiting for a big bomb or skeleton to fall out of O’s closet so we can come out for Hillary.”
I’m still here. And I’m not voting for Obama. So Hillary better be our nominee.
Oh and p.s. Thank you Sugar, for your honesty, courage and bravery. It’s women like you that make me proud to be a Hillary Warrior!
HEre’s another thought:
By suspending and not conceding (same thing Edwards did at first), she is NOT available to campaign for Obama.
And you can bet your sweet you-know-what that Bill Clinton won’t campaign for him , either.
Obama and his supporters called them both RACISTS, and falsely.
The Clintons owe them NOTHING.
I would love to believe that the DNC is split…. I can only intuit a very tiny little twitter of a protest from any corner except the most pro-Hillary folks like Harold and Tina. Please tell me otherwise and I do believe she is heading for the convention because they will need her to save them from doom by Aug - mygod - that’s three months for him to say whatever he wants unimpeded. That’s long enough for O to do himself in with no help at all from anyone else with the use of his confused mouth.
Did you see the reaction to her speech Tuesday night? It looked like time for a stroke when she didn’t concede. You could see she and her family were totally enjoying themselves. Not only is she an amazingly strong women, she is smart enough to take it to them. It must have been real hard for Mr. Obama and his wife to go out on stage and smile and say nice things about the Clintons. I’m sure his whole campaign was mad as hell. Hillary will RISE like the phoenix.
From day 1 Sugar has shown that she has the same kind of courage and clarity of purpose, to endure
the petty slights from very close, long held relationships, just as Hillary did.
Courage is indeed increasingly, a rare virtue.
Learning from the misjudgements of youth and
choosing to think critically, rather
than take the path of least resistance,
is a sign of maturity and taking
responsibility for creating a better world.
We can only applaud that.
I have always admired her honesty and
authenticity, despite the serious risks
and discomfort to herself, and have felt
her pain throughout.
For she has shown real leadership!!
Keep the faith Sugar!
You are not alone!
At least you can LOL at the
thought that YOU are racist!!
How ironical!!!
So much work yet to be done!
Obama people are racist because they can’t judge a man pass the skin color.
They saw his skin pigment and voted for him because its darker than everyone else. That’s the change they voted for.
They could judge Obama beyond his skin. They couldn’t analyze his past behavior, his ideology, his action.
Obama people are racist.
Yes , Joey.
Martin Luther King told us “not by the color of their skin , but by the content of their character.”
That means, you CAN judge Obama negatively by the content of his character.
And there’s plenty of evidence that his character is lacking.
Obama will love in November.
Everybody who is getting annoyed with his payed blog posting trolls, just take a deep breath and in November rataliate at the polling stations.
And on November 4 when obama has to give his concession speach at around 11 pm after losing in a landslide, just open your windows, crank up the volume on your tv, crack open a beer and enjoy the buttered popcorn and pretzels.
Don’t argue with them now.
Many of us who were very vocal earlier have stopped posting simply because we are seething but have accepted the inevitable at this point unless something drastic happens to force the crooks in the Media and the DNC to blow the lid off him early.
As far as me and many of my friends are concerned, we dont care to obsess over MSM Propoganda anymore.
We did our homework, found out the details and decided Hillary or McCain, no other option.
We are americans before we are democrats and we will not under any circumstances hand this country over willingly to the biggest fraud in US political history.
Just remember your conviction, and when you are in that booth in november…
Flip the lever against racist scare mongering
Flip the Lever against race baiting
Flip the Lever against Mysogonists
Flip the lever against Backroom deals and paid for endorsements
Flip the lever against sweetheart deals and 300K below market mansions
Flip the Lever against dirty pay for play politics
Flip the lever against anti-americanism
Flip the lever against anti-isreali sentiment
Flip the lever againts incompetant baffons like Donna Brazile
Flip the Lever against race baitors like James and Donna undeclared
Flip the Lever against Screamin Dean the disenfranchizing machine
Flip the Lever against 1 man 1/2 vote
Flip the lever against arab money determining who your president will be
Flip the lever against people who think america is a mean country
Flip the lever agsint elitism
Flip the lever against god damning ameriKKKa
Flip the lever against not ever being proud of your country
Flip the lever against uh, uh ,uh and not the man i knew
Flip the lever against denying guilt by 20 year associations
Flip the lever against paid bloggers and public opinion puppets who tried to tell the public what to think
Flip the lever against leg tingling and verbal diariah-oberman
Flip the lever against coaching and sending obamabots to chelsea’s events to ask her what she thinks of where her dad’s dick was
Flip the lever against dead people who keep voting for hope and change
Flip the lever against Hopey changey busses that rolled into caucusses with out of state screamers and intimidation tactics
Flip the lever against disproportionate representation where rigged caucuses count more than primaries
Flip the lever against the selling of a candidate and the buying of a presidency
Flip the lever for McCain
Send the Obullshit back from whence it came.
Obama will lose in November.
Everybody who is getting annoyed with his payed blog posting trolls, just take a deep breath and in November rataliate at the polling stations.
And on November 4 when obama has to give his concession speach at around 11 pm after losing in a landslide, just open your windows, crank up the volume on your tv, crack open a beer and enjoy the buttered popcorn and pretzels.
Don’t argue with them now.
Many of us who were very vocal earlier have stopped posting simply because we are seething but have accepted the inevitable at this point unless something drastic happens to force the crooks in the Media and the DNC to blow the lid off him early.
As far as me and many of my friends are concerned, we dont care to obsess over MSM Propoganda anymore.
We did our homework, found out the details and decided Hillary or McCain, no other option.
We are americans before we are democrats and we will not under any circumstances hand this country over willingly to the biggest fraud in US political history.
Just remember your conviction, and when you are in that booth in november…
Flip the lever against racist scare mongering
Flip the Lever against race baiting
Flip the Lever against Mysogonists
Flip the lever against Backroom deals and paid for endorsements
Flip the lever against sweetheart deals and 300K below market mansions
Flip the Lever against dirty pay for play politics
Flip the lever against anti-americanism
Flip the lever against anti-isreali sentiment
Flip the lever againts incompetant baffons like Donna Brazile
Flip the Lever against race baitors like James and Donna undeclared
Flip the Lever against Screamin Dean the disenfranchizing machine
Flip the Lever against 1 man 1/2 vote
Flip the lever against arab money determining who your president will be
Flip the lever against people who think america is a mean country
Flip the lever agsint elitism
Flip the lever against god damning ameriKKKa
Flip the lever against not ever being proud of your country
Flip the lever against uh, uh ,uh and not the man i knew
Flip the lever against denying guilt by 20 year associations
Flip the lever against paid bloggers and public opinion puppets who tried to tell the public what to think
Flip the lever against leg tingling and verbal diariah-oberman
Flip the lever against coaching and sending obamabots to chelsea’s events to ask her what she thinks of where her dad’s dick was
Flip the lever against dead people who keep voting for hope and change
Flip the lever against Hopey changey busses that rolled into caucusses with out of state screamers and intimidation tactics
Flip the lever against disproportionate representation where rigged caucuses count more than primaries
Flip the lever against the selling of a candidate and the buying of a presidency
Flip the lever for McCain
Send the Obullshit back from whence it came.
Love this post!
Fabulous post! Thanks!
Neat post, Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright.
And when you leave the booth; flip them…
Sugar, I feel your pain. I just sent my “unsubscribe” to the DNC email list. When they asked why I said since votes didn’t matter to them they certainly didn’t need mine. On the news I’m seeing real fear in the faces of moderate dems about how deep the anger goes and how many of us are feeling betrayed.
Be careful what you wish for is all I have to say. If this were just about Hillary I might feel differently. This is about the constitution and the values of the party. To sit there and say rules are rules, while setting unconstitutional precedent automatically means a loss of my vote.
So here’s my decision. Hillary will do what she feels is the right course for her. If the delegates don’t swing her way by the end of August, I will work my butt off to ensure Obama gets disgraced in the general - leaving the door open for Hillary in 2012 - or at the very least - letting the Democratic Party know there are limits. I’m thinking McCain’s might not even try for a second term at 79 years old.
That’s where I’m at….but I don’t think we need to make up our minds fast.
Long time until August.
Long time till August, yes, BUT I want to send the clearest message to the delegates. Today Rendell (Gov PA) said Hillary got 55% of the vote since Mar 1, and was the best candidate to beat McCain but the “delegates chose Obama” He said he didn’t know why, but even you and I know why.
I think Obama will fall prior to the convention, however, whether he does or not I’m still going to let the party know we are not sheep under their control. They must earn our respect and our votes.
There is no nominee until the end of August.
LOL! These Obamabots are real fools.
There are so many more Republicans than Democrats and there are so many more red states than blue states. Obama won’t take Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania and on and on. There are 11 Mega States and no one that has lost between 5 and 6 of those states has ever gone on into the Presidency. In fact, ALL the nominees who have lost more than 5-6 of those key swing states (Mega States) have lost by a landslide, ala McGovern, Kerry, Carter. OBAMA HAS LOST EIGHT MEGA STATES OUT OF ELEVEN. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU. LANDSLIDE LOSS IN NOVEMBER!!!
If you would like the link that the article entitled the Electoral Richter Scale I would be happy to provide it for these stupid, moronic Obamabots. They have a right to be extremely worried. Why do you think they are here?
If not Hillary, McCain ‘08
We are Clear Obama bots you don’t need our votes and we are not voting for him….See we are really all in agreement
You can pick up your sheet at the door along with the shrill one’s.
Bacrock Obullshit ‘08 - Bumper Stickers coming soon
LOL! Okay, I want one.
How about Oblah blah 2008?
Obama (formerly Barry Soetoro) is a malleable politician willing as he has shown, to do/say anything to promote himself….he has proven this his entire career.
However it is the elitist of the democratic party who pushed his candidacy forward.
Ex-Senator Tom Daschle was one of the first. Daschle a wimpy give in to the other side Senate Minority & Majority Leader, longtime encumbant from South Dakota, who after he lost his reelection bid became a chief lobbyist at a Washington Lobbying Firm that also employs the pillar of political decency and respect for the American public Bob Dole.
Daschle’s wife was a lobbylist WHILE THE SENATOR SERVED IN THE SENATE.
Daschle raised the million bucks Obama needed to begin his campaign.
Oh sure, Daschle raised only funds from ordinary Americans smitten by Obama and not from his lobbyist friends!!!!
Thats a start, how about some others give us a bio on other champions of “honest lobby free politicians” behind Barry Soetoro Obama?
Whether or not we intend to vote for McCain in Nov. we can join the McCain democratic movements, put Democrat for McCain bumper stickers on our vehicles and praise McCain on blogs.
Why, because a massive switch of us voters to McCain is the ONLY way to gain the attention of those who have perpetuated the “undemocratic” democratic primary election system so THEY rather than you and me can choose who our nominee will be.
They threw us under the bus, let’s get back in the driver’s seat.
It is like that scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark”
When Indie was crawling around under the bus…
LOL. Good points you make.
HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS GO THIRD PARTY
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977360849
This evening, New American Independent Party founder and National Chairman Michael
Thompson said, “We welcome Hillary Clinton supporters with open arms. Hillary Clinton supporters have embraced our common sense platform and pragmatic approach to problem solving. They have found that they have much more in common with the New American Independent Party than they do with Barack Obama. The American people want real solutions, not false hope. This is an exciting time for us. Our newly increased membership will allow us to better build and grow the New American Independent Party, recruit citizen candidates and register new voters. We welcome our new members to actively seek leadership roles within our party and help us field citizen candidates to challenge not only Obama, but also elected Obama super delegates. We encourage their draft campaign.”
Bush put the handcuffs on us. Barack Hussein Obama will through the keys away. That much power to quick to someone so untried. That much power in the hands of a rookie? Nice message of change his ultimate lie. Sounds like Hitler to me.
Obama’s record does not show enough experience, desire or commitment. With no clue how to undo the trespass of Bush.
Obama will be the Anti Christ if not by purpose then he will be by accident.
Sugar, THANK YOU for this powerful post and the analogy is scary but true.
This is why I won’t be a complacent yellow dog Democrat any more. PUMA POWER!
Wonderful article Sugar!
Just a quick point about the glove… As anyone who has worn expensive leather gloves can tell you, they have a flaw. If you get them wet, they shrink! They will become wrinkled around the palms and the backs of the hands. Having seen the wrinkled glove on tv numerous times, I feel fairly confident in saying they had gotten wet and shrunk.
As far as celebrating when OJ got off, I can actually understand that to a point. Especially for residents of major cities. It is no secret that police departments in large cities were well known for acts of brutality against AA’s.
As for Hillary, I believe she needs to campaign for Obama, and show an honest if reserved effort. She is keeping her options open, so it is up to us her supporters to find out the truth. She can’t deliver the knock out blow, it would damage the causes she believes in as she would be damned as a racist and poor loser. The Republicans have been smirking for months knowing they have the goods on Obama, and we have been trying to warn the Obamatons for MONTHS that they are saving it for an October surprise. They refuse to listen, to even spend the smallest amount of time researching their candidate. So it is up to us true Democrats to dig hard, dig deep and bring truth to the Democratic party. Thankfully we have excellent people Like Larry and Evelyn Pringle who have been striving with herculean effort to bring our party back to it’s senses.
Sugar, that was an amazing post. You sure nailed it.
I’ve had OJ on my mind, too. That is exactly how I feel today, like I did during the OJ thing. People were celebrating as if the little guy had finally won, as if injustice had finally been overcome. But in reality what people were cheering on was the fact that another wealthy, powerful man had bought his way thru the justice system and avoided accountability. That’s exactly what people have been protesting all these years, the inequality of the justice system. Except this time instead of protesting against it, they were actually celebrating it.
Sexism once again took a back seat, didn’t it? The body of yet another battered and murdered domestic violence victim lay there for all to see while people danced in the streets because her murderer had been aquitted.
Mccinn is planning to CONTINUE Bush’s economic policies, stay in Iraq, and oveturn Roe V Wade. geez, even Hillary disagrees with you guys. if you don’t vote for Obama just because you’re butthurt over the primaries, then you have no right to complain about the state of this country. pure and simple.
Don’t try to scare people smarter than you. We all know that President McCain will not be able to overturn Roe v. Wade with a Democratic majority in the Senate. We also know that Obamafool will not pull the troops out of Iraq, no matter what he says. Haven’t you been paying attention to what his “advisors” have been telling the BBC? We also know that President McCain will not be a 3rd Bush term. Hell, the right doesn’t like him because he is a moderate.
If you want to scare people into voting for your god, Obamaidiot, go somewhere where the people are even more stupid than you. I bet you can find thousands of them at barackobama.com.
You do realize that Senator Clinton’s only White House experience has been as First Lady…and she failed at that (Lewinsky, anyone?), right?
All you people’s ‘experience’ arguments are idiotic.
She has far more time in the Senate. Obama was in the Senate less that two years before he got bored and started his presidential campaign. Hillary completed a full term before running.
Oh em gee, I didn’t realize that White House experience was a prerequisite to holding the presidency!
But if so, then she has more experience than your Bacockn’bull story.
Ha Ha … Another Fool Trying To Act Black … Why ?? Scared of your own Skin Now ??
WTF?
The absolute ignorance of some people just takes my breath away.
Dems for McCain 08
To Prodem:
You are a new troll. How do I know that? Because if you had been here very long you would know that I do make sense. I have posted many times about how I equate Obama/Marxist Black Liberation Theology Saul Alinsky Axelrod and the whole Chicago connection to his current campaign.
So, to answer your question about do I get sexual satisfaction from saying Obama/Marxist, No.
Would I get satisfaction seeing Obama/Marxist crying like a little Marxist baby in November or before if he is finally found out - yes.
You need to get better at trolling or leave because you, boy/man/girl are pathetic.
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008
AMERICAN FIRST
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Written by somebody who has lost all of their logical thinking skills. To equate Obama to a murderer is the worst the possible slander. I am under no allusions that Obama is not a saint nor does he claim to be but he is different. Newsflash neither is Clinton –no politician is a saint. They don’t get very far by being nice. Clinton like Obama has her scandals and some that she would unfairly inherit from her husband. We forget that one of her main fund raisers for this primary is sitting in jail.
Obama played by the rules in Florida and Michigan. In fairness nobody should have got any delegates- Hillary or Obama. Whether we agree or not this is how the DNC works. The constitution does not provide for political parties therefore they can govern themselves in any way they wish. The “disenfranchisement” was set before the contest began and we must get over it. Even Clinton agreed to it. To now say they should count is to even ignore the original will of your own candidate. The Clinton’s back then were very powerful in the party and could have tried to stop this but they agreed to it. We cannot discern the intent of the people of Florida or Michigan based on a primaries that will not count. How many people did not show up just because they though their vote would not count? This is not the general election people but a primary. In regards to your comments about Obama caring about black people- he is going to have weigh everybody’s interest not just black interest. The days that a politician can run on black interest are numbered. The growth of the Hispanic population is going to minimalize black influence. Blacks must move into the body politic. An Obama presidency whether or not he champions black issues does change perceptions about what blacks can achieve and where our loyalties are. I honestly think that some whites think that we want to punish them for slavery. An apology would be nice but it I know its not going to happen. We are not looking for reparations, or to punish whites for 200 years of oppression we just like to be treated with respect and to be considered equal.
What you fail to realize is Clinton has written an historic campaign. The nomination was hers to lose with more money, name recognition, and what was though to be a better organization before the primaries began. She lost. She might have won big states and she is right she has the working class white vote but she didn’t win the most delegates and her claim on the popular vote is questionable since her total don’t include caucus states. The best she can argue is she tied the popular vote. We need to accept this and move on.
Jimmy ask yourself this if you believe your Obamessiah is incapable of having someone knocked off…Why did Antoin Rezko ASK to go to jail IMMEDIATELY after being found guilty when he is not due to be sentenced until September?
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Written by somebody who has lost all of their logical thinking skills. To equate Obama to a murderer is the worst the possible slander. I am under no allusions that Obama is not a saint nor does he claim to be but he is different. Newsflash neither is Clinton –no politician is a saint. They don’t get very far by being nice. Clinton like Obama has her scandals and some that she would unfairly inherit from her husband. We forget that one of her main fund raisers for this primary is sitting in jail.
Obama played by the rules in Florida and Michigan. In fairness nobody should have got any delegates- Hillary or Obama. Whether we agree or not this is how the DNC works. The constitution does not provide for political parties therefore they can govern themselves in any way they wish. The “disenfranchisement” was set before the contest began and we must get over it. Even Clinton agreed to it. To now say they should count is to even ignore the original will of your own candidate. The Clinton’s back then were very powerful in the party and could have tried to stop this but they agreed to it. We cannot discern the intent of the people of Florida or Michigan based on a primaries that will not count. How many people did not show up just because they though their vote would not count? This is not the general election people but a primary. In regards to your comments about Obama caring about black people- he is going to have weigh everybody’s interest not just black interest. The days that a politician can run on black interest are numbered. The growth of the Hispanic population is going to minimalize black influence. Blacks must move into the body politic. An Obama presidency whether or not he champions black issues does change perceptions about what blacks can achieve and where our loyalties are. I honestly think that some whites think that we want to punish them for slavery. An apology would be nice but it I know its not going to happen. We are not looking for reparations, or to punish whites for 200 years of oppression we just like to be treated with respect and to be considered equal.
What you fail to realize is Clinton has run an historic campaign. The nomination was hers to lose with more money, name recognition, and what was though to be a better organization before the primaries began. She lost. She might have won big states and she is right she has the working class white vote but she didn’t win the most delegates and her claim on the popular vote is questionable since her total don’t include caucus states. The best she can argue is she tied the popular vote. We need to accept this and move on.
Can’t see what you see.
1, Many in office are questing whether RBC had constitutional authority to do what they did. Personally I think it should be settled in court - even if after the election.
2. Clinton took 55% of the vote since Mar. 1. No matter how you slice it, that is NOT a loss. To keep saying so doesn’t make it so.
3. Obama is not the nominee. Again, just saying so - even if Hillary says so - doesn’t make it so. Rules ARE rules, and the rules say their has to be the requisite number of pledged delegates before the convention or the nominee is designated at the convention. The only way Obama can be the legal nominee now is if Hillary gives him her delegates.
4. The Chicago Police Department is looking into a possible connection between Obama and the murder of Donald Young, former Choir Master of United Trinity Church. If you haven’t heard about it yet, it’s because it’s part of an ongoing investigation. It may turn out Obama had nothing to do with that, but we don’t know it yet, so start holding your breath.
5. Obama and Clinton are meeting tonight. Why do you think that is? All day on the news they’ve been talking about the amount of democrats who are saying they won’t vote for Obama. This is a problem, a real problem for the party, and people such as yourself who insult rather than try to unite are a big part of its cause.
Obama played by the rules in Michigan and Florida? Surely, you jest.
The rules were “No campaigning”, and yet Obama ran cable TV ads in Florida (a regional buy that could have excluded Florida, but didn’t), and he and Edwards (through the Axelrod connection) both organized phone banks in Michigan to encourage their voters to vote for “uncommitted”.
To follow “The Rules”, Obama should have gotten no delegates from Florida and Michigan (for breaking the rules), and no popular votes from Michigan (for removing his name without being asked to).
That’s how history will record this sorry primary season.
Thank you Sugar!
Hillary/McCain
Sugar,
When I read this post on your site yesterday, it pulled me out of the funk I was in after the dirty Chicago rats-ass politician, Barack Obama, stole the nomination by paying off the DNC with his dirty money backers.
Your comparison between Obama and O.J. is breathtakingly apt. Many people, not only AA, really wanted O.J. to be telling the truth. He was a sports hero, married to a white woman, raising biracial children.
Just as now with Obama, clueless guilt-ridden liberals saw O.J. as their imaginary hip black friend. And to convict him was seen as an act of racism.
The truth hurts. O.J. murdered his wife and her friend in cold blood. Obama is a crooked, lying Chicago politician.
The truth will prevail. I’m certain.
Excellent essay, Sugar.
You’ve summed it up perfectly for me. Even the OJ business brought back memories. When OJ was first accused of the crime, I simply did not believe it. I mean we all knew OJ [or at least we thought we did]. But slowly and surely as that evidence–the past physical abuse, the blood evidence, the tons of forensics [even with the lab problems] mounted up, I realized: Oh my God. He actually slaughtered both those people.
Made me a little ill.
The original assumptions were all made on “the image” of the man we thought we knew, the public image, the one that had been marketed by his agents and handlers and all the rest that are involved in selling a celebrity personality.
I have this awful feeling that you’re right on the money about Barack Obama. We’re looking at an image, listening to the soaring rhetoric but have no idea what’s behind that image or what the vague, hopey-dopey words really mean. Because of my doubts, because of Obama’s questionable relationships in Chicago, his flip-flopping around on issues, and the fact that he has no record to speak of, I cannot and will not vote for him. Not for the POTUS. And the primary itself left an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.
But your essay was an excellent and honest analysis of the difficult choices ahead.
okay, deep breath everyone.
i am a clinton supporter.
i will vote DEMOCRAT. clintons are democrats. how could you switch parties and still be a clinton supporter?
john mccain is WRONG for this country. wrong wrong WRONG.
comparing this to OJ is just ridiculous.
we’re all a little emotional right now. but christ, this is uncalled for.
i mean. OJ killed two people.
no comparison. this is only making you and other clinton supporters look bad.
Ok, I’ve just exhaled. Here’s the flaw I see in what you’re saying: you’re not helping Clinton. That’s right! We give Clinton power when we withhold our vote from the party. Now is the time to send the message that the wishes of 18 million voters cannot be ignored. The dems doing interviews today all showed how worried they are that we’ll make good on our word - leave and not come back. Obama and Clinton are meeting tonight because of the need for speed to unite the party. She’s got the power. She has nothing to lose - he needs us. To go willingly like sheep is not in her best interests because if we stand strong she will fight for us and what we want in our government.
Whew! Need to take another breath now
Barry requested Republicans to be “Democrats for a Day”. We’re going to take his advice and be “Republicans for a Day” on November 4th.
A party that steals and switches votes is not the Democratic Party. A vote for Obama is a vote for vote theft.
mjc, the unity pony isn’t selling and noone believes you’re a clinton supporter.
and some of us would appreciate if you would 1) not use the Lord’s name in vain; and 2) at the very least, capitalize Christ.
this is ridiculous, im not about unity and i still think clinton is the strongest candidate, but i could never vote republican. one big reason, i disagree with everything they stand for and as a gay person it is totally voting against my community.
how dare you say i am not a clinton supporter when i have throughout this entire thing had to defend her against republicans and other democrats ive argued with, spent my time and given money to her candidacy, have posters that i’ll keep forever to remember her historic candidacy.
i didnt ever say the word UNITY and i think its crap and i am sad and angry about this but if she doesn’t want to continue then i respect her decision. ultimatly for me it is not about WHO but what and i will NEVER vote for a anti-choise, anti gay pro war republican. NEVER. republicans have it on their adgenda to see people like me denied rights. i will never ever vote republican and i think the idea to switch from clinton to mccain is ludicris because their stances on the issues are so far apart.
not to mention the next president will appoint supreme court judges. mccain will do nothing to restore balance to the supreme court.
i am dissapointed and angry that sen. clinton will not be the nominee but i’ll be damned if i’d ever support a republican.
and yes i do feel like this was a raw deal and all of that anger you all feel but its nothing compared to what i will feel if i have to see what a republican controlled white house will do to further destroy this country and halt ALL chances of progress (can you say veto happy??), for me and the people i love.
sorry. i can not get on board with this way of thinking that voting for mccain is justified.
i don’t believe in anything the GOP stands for and if i were to vote another party than democrat it would be a third party but i do not like bobb barr that notorious homophobe.
mjc, you Obamazoid you! Scram! I didn’t say that Obama killed anybody. Pull your head out of your ass! Did you even read the whole post. I’m talking about my experience as a Black woman. I’m not sure if you are Black, but you can’t tell me what I know about this. I know what I heard and what I saw. I won’t put all of our dirty laundry out there, but if you do an archive search of video, it probably won’t be hard to find! Black America was happy that O.J. got away with it thinking we were showing ourselves unified and now that I’m 31 and not 18 or 19 years old, I know better. It was wrong and it was disgusting.
well i appologize for jumping to conclusions, i’m all hopped up on cold medicine this week.
but please do not call me an obamazoid, i never ever was and i am not and i never will be. i have donated money and effort in sen. clintons behalf and i am not happy with the results but if she is deciding to end it i respect her decision. i have gotten in arguments with obama people and stood up for her until they would finally just shutup. i spent a lot of mental energy spreading information people to get them to support her.
as i said above in my reply to someone else, i could never vote for a republican for so many reasons, i don’t like obama, i didn’t like kerry, but at this point i have to break it down to issues and who blatantly wants to discriminate against me and my family and loved ones, and the one who has a public stance that is on my side - and that is any democrat so i’ll vote for any democrat.
i wont stop being dissapointed any time soon but if hillary isn’t going to continue i still could never vote republican. i don’t believe in them and i disagree with them on basically everything. its platform not personalities, at this point.
A reasonable position, but do you really trust Obama to carry out that platform? When has he ever made an effort to carry out campaign promises?
i don’t know that i trust him to, but i don’t think he will do a total 180 and be against everything the democratic platform is about.
but i do KNOW and TRUST that john mccain and the gop will do what they do to uphold their platform, one i disagree with wholeheartedly.
thats one of the things that turned me off to obama, what has he done? what do we know about his ability to deliver? we don’t. and i don’t like that at all. i wanted hillary to be our nominee. but i turn to the bigger picture: what i don’t like even more is what we DO know about the republicans and john mccain.
thats enough for me at this point.
Diogenes2008,
Your are mistaken the superdelegates were created to break a tie like this one or a party fiasco by nominating the wrong candidate. Which nominating Obama may be in your view wrong but not theirs. If a nominee did not have the required pledge delegates the super delegates can put them over the top. Again, this is not a constitutional issue. Washington despised them and called the devisive. It is NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.
Listen we need to be careful about these rumors about murder. If there is one thing the MSM likes is a good story if there is any truth in it they will pick it up. People like to spread rumors like the one about Hillary Clinton and VInce Foster. The Obama sould no preference in running the Revered Wright story. Everything you hear bad about Obama or Clinton is true.
Catriley,
I did not mean to imply that you had problem with a black candidate. I was just responding to Sugar’s criticism about he doesn’t care about black interest.
I am black and I don’t think any president can focus on black interest. Just like a woman president can just focus on woman’s issues.
Yes, the Super Delegates can come to a different decision from the voters. Agreed. However, in this case that’s not what occurred. They actually created a new device to allocate pledged delegates. I’m not an attorney, and the political office I’ve held was not of a high level, but those who have more expertise than I have assured me this is constitutional territory.
What you’re referring to as rumor, is not. The MSM is aware of the story and has not reported. As I said, this is an ongoing investigation by the Chicago Police Department,not a tabloid newspaper. The issue of Obama’s involvement has been raised by the murdered man’s family and an additional number of people who were acquainted with the deceased.
I know you think I’m unreasonable in my refusal to vote for Obama under any circumstances, but I’ve done over 1,000 hours of research on the man and I get the feeling you really don’t know a lot about his actions and history yet. If you are willing, as information comes out - which started today on CNN of all places - I’d love to hear your reactions.
Ok, I will wait and see about this story but I don’t think it is going anywhere
I did some checking the only thing I can find about this story is from Larry Sinclair. This man is a joke. You are going to have show me something concrete and not from him. Didn’t he fail a lie detector test. To me this equal to the Clinton body count rumor. Everything bad you hear is not true about the Clintons or Obama.
Jimmy
Let’s say you wanted to play a joke on some influential politician too. Why don’t you have a sworn affidavit submitted to a major urban city police department, where that politician lives and wields his greatest power.
Then have your attorney arrange to sit down with those in the police department who are investigating the murder. How likely do you think it is they’d spend 10 seconds to even set up a meeting with you?
But I digress. Now they take your sworn information and continue on their investigation. They assure your attorney you are not a target of the investigation, and state they will check the info provided.
Now let’s also say some time passes and you and your attorney are not told the case is closed and your information had no value. You are not threatened with prosecution for making a false, sworn affidavit to the authorities.
How much of a joke are you now?
As to the others who have spoken with the CPD, you’re correct. They haven’t gone along with the joke and been willing to subject themselves to further stress by going public. Shame on them, right?
Have you seen the sworn affidavit submitted to the CPD? It’s been posted.
Personally I think the politician should be grateful that everybody agrees there should be no publicity until the facts are fully documented.
Diogenes2008
I don’t think this guy is credible
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11164.html
Jimmy, I’ve never said nor implied that I solely want him or any other candidate for that matter, to focus on African-American issues, but dammit, if John McCain who knew he wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting anywhere near a majority of the AA vote, could take time out of his busy schedule to go to Memphis for the MLK commemoration ceremonies–along with HILLARY, then Obama should have had his ass there too. How many more excuses will be made for this guy?! He wanted the AA votes, but when it’s time to be seen in public with them, nothing doing unless it’s at some church trying to gobble up some support there. Screw Obama.
What mjc said.
Great post Sugar! I too will never ever vote Obama- he is a crook, plain and simple. I have resigned myself to being called a racist by the ignorant Obama supporters. I call myself a patriot. For me it is America first. I do not want to live in a marxist society and Obama and the calls for “unity” and “for the good of the party” just sound too much like the USSR to me.
Thanks for standing up for the truth!
My vote off-party will be a small act of dissent and defiance, one voice. I detest what the Rules Committee did last Saturday. I do not think Obama is anywhere close to being qualified or experienced enough to take the helm of the world’s superpower. And I deeply resent how the DNC has pushed Obama’s candidacy down our throats.
I’ve been a lifelong Dem. I have never voted for a Republican in my life. But I will do just that if left no choice in November. I will not get in line. I will not be a good girl. And I will be told how to vote.
Over and out!
Peggy Sue, you have said it best- “I will not be a good girl.” I too will add “I will not be a good Democrat and walk lock step over the cliff for an unqualified candidate.”
Bush and Obama are both dividers of the nth degree.
But I will probably vote for Nader. Votes are earned, should be respected and any one who uses bully tactics to beat me into submission will pay dearly!
What about women’s rights?
What about Supreme Court Nominee’s?
What about or sons and daughers in Iraq?
What about health care?
What about energy policy?
Can we really afford another Republican. I know that you are angry but by voting McCain is cutting of your nose to spite your face.
After calling leaders of the Democratic Party, emailing hundreds of super delegates I said to all - you cannot expect me to think the party will uphold any interests other than their own if you will not respect the voters and the constitution. I received one - just one - response, which said “What’s the matter with you?” Tell me the difference between that and the Republicans of the last 7 years.
Women’s rights won’t change. As a women watching the party and the press deal with Hillary I know that will not change. We will still be second class citizens. Roe v. Wade is secure.
Supreme Court? If the party doesn’t care about 18 million of their own voters, who are they going to put on the Court? Extreme left is just as dangerous to me as extreme right.
Iraq - don’t even get me started. I’m truly an expert and it’s probably the thing about Obama I object to the most.
Healthcare? Don’t see how we won’t have a democratic Congress
Energy policy? Neither party did what they were supposed to do in the last 50 years and no one squawked until recently. What you sow, so shall you reap.
You haven’t gotten it yet. I’m not leaving the Democratic Party. It left me. And if I’m correct - as many as 5 million will not vote for Obama, or as little as just under 2 million. Either way, it should cost Obama the election. I do have a voice - it’s at the polls - and I will use it
Interesting that Sugar’s prediction is coming true already. Obama and Hillary had both confirmed that they would speak before the National Conference of Black Mayors down here in New Orleans.
Suddenly Obama needs to spend time with his family:
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/obama_not_addressing_black_may.html
Interesting that he had refused to speak before the National State of the Black Union in New Orleans a few months ago while Hillary did. Tavis Smiley caught hell from many blacks for complaining that Baby Jesus was ignoring them. But Hilary is the racist.
I suppose now that he’s got the nomination, BO doesn’t want to be too closely identified with the darkies. From now on, he’s not half black; he’s half white.
Actually, to be technically correct he’s not half black, he’s half Arab. And before everyone jumps all over me with new racist accusations, my husband was born in Iraq.
Goodness gracious peace!!! I was at a conference all day or I would have been in here throwing elbows with the rubes with the ignorant comments pound for pound, round for round! Listen, I think I saw it in one of the other posts, a very profound statement that went something like this: “Telling the truth about Obama is not racist” or something like that. Obama is a fluke. He is using any and every body he gets next to. PLUS, he’s being used too! This is one of the biggest political con games we’ve all seen in a long time and you all had better wrap your minds around that.
I have had that sense that Obama’s is being used also. He was selected not elected. I very much see the Dems have decided they needed to get the black vote back and because of the fact that Corporate America thinks they own all of us, both parties have become more similar than not. They mostly want to control us not work for any of us.
That’s why I will vote third party. I’d love Hillary to start a third party.
Black, white, yellow or brown, there’s one born every minute and you’re him. Your theories are garbage and your writing turgid.
In future if you want to jerk off go to the toilet and keep it to yourself. Clown
Diogenes2008
I don’t know how you the Arab argument. His father was a Kenyan. They may have a muslim faith but he is not Arab no more than Ahmadinejad. But I digress. There really aren’t that many substantial differences between Obama and Hillary. I can’t address your views on the war since I don’t know them. However, I must reiterate that this is not a constitutional issue with the DNC. You have no constitutional protection for a primary vote. You can look this up in any history vote. While it would be nice if the DNC had not done this it is legal. The people in Florida and Michigan aggreed to move their primary in violation of DNC rules (see link)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/1/153956/6000/791/488388
What is an acceptable compromise for you let the vote stand without any punishment? The DNC had to do something to maintain order. You still not addressed why Clinton initially supported this only to changer her mind when she was losing. I agree their was sexism in the campaign but she benefited from being a woman just as their was racism and Obama benefited from being black. You can use your vote anyway that you wish. I am just trying to understand the logic behind your anger. Women still have a long way to go to get full equality of wages and earn respect in traditional male fields I agree. Hillary losing and trying to forcing her to win is not going to help. I WILL STATE AGAIN THE DNC SHOULD NOT HAVE COUNTED FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN AT ALL. We do not the real outcome of those races if all the candidates had been on the ticket and could campaign fully.
1. Barack’s father is officially classified as an Arab by the Kenyan Government. Records show that Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side. He is 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. Barack is an Arab American of chiefly Muslim Kenyan origins.
2. The media keeps saying there are no substantial differences between Obama and Clinton, but if you study and compare them side by side the differences become much larger. Obama speaks in terms of goals. Clinton is a policy wonk. They say they want the same things, but the way they would achieve them are polar opposites. I could do a point by point, but am hoping we can agree on the concept without having to review the details. To me this is the main difference between the two “camps.” It’s an ideological split.
3. I had originally called Senator Arlen Spector’s office because I heard he was concerned and potentially looking into the constitutional issues involved last Saturday. I’ve not heard back yet from his offices. I will ask my contacts what constitutional areas they strongly feel were violated and I will let you know the specifics.
4. The entire issue of punishment I reject completely, and is a source of true anger for me. First, the voters in MI and FL will tell you they were pawns, not decision makers. 2nd Obama and Edwards volunteers called voters in MI after their names were taken off the ballot and urged them to go out and vote “uncommitted.” 40% of MI voters did that. Obama purchased ads which were shown in the FL market - which he could have opted out of, but didn’t and then claimed he didn’t campaign there.
the big lesson Howard Dean taught me last Saturday is that what he wanted and his politics were more important than voters. If your vote doesn’t count you don’t get to have your say in the process. This may be the final position Hillary took, but I can assure you I took her final position from the start. This is not a Hillary issue. She was wrong at first, and corrected herself. She offered to pay for a re-vote and Obama said no. Politics made the final decision and the voters of MI and FL got screwed. Thats 2.3 million people representing close to 10 percent of the population who the DNC disenfranchised with their political games. Not right. Not fair. I don’t think it was legal and I blame the DNC, the Super Delegates, Hillary and Obama.
So we will obviously have to agree to disagree on this issue.
As human beings, we group and categorize things together - this is the only way we can keep the numerous information and details we are bombarded with each day together. It is how our brains work to help us recognize harm and avoid danger (ex. most people’s fears to spiders/snakes - those who did not died off early in human history when those animals proved venomous).
Take this and transfer it to how people will react when they see how Blacks have treated the Clintons - people who have worked so hard to help African-Americans. Furthermore, Obama’s supporters in their overzealousness and cult-like reactions to others - have continuously bullied and intimidated others, while offering no real discourse or debate as to why their candidate should be worshipped as the next coming. Many people will generalize (not on this website of course, but the larger public as a whole), whether it is right or wrong, and transfer these feelings onto Obama himself, and sadly, onto many Black people as a whole.
A lot has been written about how Obama is able to garner 90%+ of the Black vote, but I think the real story should have been the 10% that didn’t vote for him. If we think it’s hard being Clinton supporters, just imagine the rabid Obamabots’ reactions to these brave souls who truly took MLK’s works to heart. That one should not be judged based on their skin color - but rather on the content of their character and their actions. If only if those practicing Black Liberation Theology at Trinity could really understand those amazing words and the fact that they work all ways - with Blacks and with the reverse: Whites.
” but I think the real story should have been the 10% that didn’t vote for him.”
Of course, that’s the real story. And if we had an msm doing its job they would have followed that lead.
There are many interestng Obama stories that the msm has ignored. Here are a few:
1. Why so much mystery about his Columbia years? No attempt to interview any classmates, dates, roommates, professors about this historic candidate.
2. His time in Indoneisia as a child.
3. Where else in the world has he traveled to besides Africa, Pakistan, India, and as a Senator to Iraq and Afgahnistan?
3. Hawaiian schoolmates, neighbors, family friends.
4. Follow up to Emil Jones’ boast about how he was “going to make a Senator.” How Jones passed Bills to Obama to pad his State Senate record.
5. Why no paper trail during his time as a State Senator?
These are just off the top of my head. But so far there have been virtually no human interest stories on Obama.
Why? It’s not like the country really knows him
Jimmy, you make some very ill-informed comments. The only reason why any AA’s thought they were mistreated by Bill or Hillary is because Obama’s surrogates, the media, and Obama, lulled them into believing that they had been. Even my own mother, a Clinton supporter always, began making foolish remarks implying that they were racists. Bill Clinton had more AA’s in powerful cabinet positions than any president before him. He put words to action and proved that he had faith in AA’s being able to do a job well done. It is a travesty for any AA to claim that either he or Hillary are racist in the face of all they have attempted to do for the community. This is pure and simple group-think.
Sugar, one of my chief complaints about Obama is how he manipulated the race issue. I just don’t think anyone who truly cares would do that. It hits so deep and causes pain.
I just lost respect for him in SC when he did that. Winning and being competitive…….no problem!
But to do it by triggering pain in people?
There’s something very wrong with being willing to do that.
It’s not “clever.”
It’s devoid of good-will.
Sugar,
The Clinton’s lost the black vote period by Bill Clinton’s stupid remarks. That is why Hillary went to the State of the Black Union to mend fences.
Jimmy,
Ah, thanks for pointing me to the truth. I see what you mean. Bill Clinton’s remark caused a majority of black voters to believe Hillary had been faking it all along in her speeches and actions like:
1962: met MLK Jr. preaching a sermon in Chicago. (Jul 2007)
1965: brought black classmates to all-white church. (Jul 2007)
Supports DOMA, which Bill Clinton signed. (Jul 2007)
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go. (Jun 2007)
1995: Politely criticized China’s human rights. (Jun 2007)
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA. (Jun 2007)
Developmental thread: tragedy of race must be made right. (Jun 2007)
Pushing for privacy bill of rights. (Jun 2006)
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action. (Oct 2005)
1972: Worked with Edelman on school desegregation in South. (Nov 2003)
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now. (Oct 2000)
Crack down on sex trafficking of women and girls. (Jan 2000)
Human rights are women’s rights. (Jan 2000)
Women’s rights are human rights. (Dec 1999)
Support National Endowment for the Arts. (Feb 1997)
Affirmative living: involve entire village against racism. (Sep 1996)
Sex selection, prostitution & war rape: human rights issues. (Sep 1995)
See, if you hadn’t clarified things for me I’d be thinking the majority of black voters were thinking the way Sugar explained it.
I too can Google her civil rights record. I hate to tell you but a lot of her stuff are just speeches and points made in a debate. I admit it took guts to bring her friends to church. Depending on your view the DOMA is a slap in the face to gays and lesbians. She has never put forth a bill to formerly apologize for slavery, campaigning in Iowa she didn’t talk about the proportional high imprisonment of blacks, she voted to loosen restrictions on wiretapping, she did not to my knowledge try to stop her husband’s disastrous welfare reform. I will be fair Obama is guilty of the some of the same sins. I think it would be political suicide to address some of theses things. Hillary Clinton is a politician and acts as such. She criticizes inequality when it suits her but does little about it in the end. I don’t think she is bad just human.
I would like your opinion on these links it has no bearing on the present conversation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-q4MDQ0cDI
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/race-in-kentuck.html
By the way Digiones2008 I enjoy talking to you. We don’t agree but it is interesting.
I still think the Sinclair story is reaching. The same type of crap has been put out against Bill Clinton- the Clinton Body Count, the death of Vince Foster. In fact some of the same arguments have been made about why the cases were hushed up. I think these were lies just as I think Sinclair is untrustworthy.
I got this from a blog at riverdaughter.
Can it be true, do you think? And what does that really mean for all of us? It jut seems to click with me. It makes a very sick kind of sense for what has been going on.
I don’t know web stuff. Can’t someone look into it or whatever.
Please
Passed on to me as “inside” information. The comment that associated my email was “May not be accurate, but sounds credible.” I don’t understand the DNC’s rationale if it is worth losing the Presidency to garner new voters and now the Obama campaign realizes it needs Hillary supporters. I doubt the new voters equal those who are jumping ship.
Email text follows:
Okay, so now that Hillary has issued a statement to the press, I’ll elaborate on what I know:
Basically, on Tuesday Hillary spent the day at home calling superdelegates. In doing so, she discovered that Obama supporters, Uncommitted supers and a few of her supporters had essentially made a pact with the DNC that they would not support Hillary at the convention. She was essentially told that she needed to get out of the race asap. Someone told the press that she was going to get out last night, but Hillary didn’t want to exit the race when someone else told her to do it (the media) and instead, decided she would exit on her own time, under her conditions. I think it was her last opportunity to actually call her own shots versus having the DNC, party officials and media do it. In fact, during the meeting today, she joked that she had realized that she wanted to be a person who “talked for a living”, as you always had work and the things you said didn’t even have to be true.
Anyway, apparently, the idea that Obama isn’t going to be able to win the nomination came up while talking to the DNC/supers and the response she received was that Obama brought in a lot of new Democratic voters (and ultimately, a lot of new Democratic money) and thus, while the party might lose the election in the short term (the presidential election, that is), the long term would be good, as the party would have lots of new voters and money.
The belief was that even though Obama might not be able to win the presidency, the fact that he had “all these new voters” would help to ensure that the party won the congressional and senatorial seats in play in November. I asked if Hillary had read the comments posted by her supporters and was told that she did and that if she felt she could win the election (garner the superdelegate support at the convention), she would have stayed in the race. However , the DNC and supers made it very clear to her that they would not support her and that she needed to get out.
The airwaves today were full of Obama supporters demonizing Hillary for not dropping out of the race last night. They went on and on about how selfish she is and how “dare she strong arm for the VP position”. I was told that she has never once asked for the VP spot ,AND that she hasn’t been talking to the Obama campaign at all about what to do next. She came to her decision on her own, but did indicate that she would use some of her delegate support to get the healthcare plan on the Obama platform.
In typical Obama fashion, he allowed the media to go on and on for the last two weeks about how Hillary is staying in the race so she can be the VP. Today that rhetoric reached a ridiculous level and the hate directed at her was completely over the top. Again, no statement from Obama regarding the truth: That she had NOT asked for the VP spot. (In fact, from what I understand, Hillary has no obvious desire to be a part of the Obama campaign whatsoever.
This seems good, as right now, people love her and she can exit this looking like the queen that she is. If she goes with Obama, then the media will say that they were right all along-that Hillary stayed in this after March because she wanted the VP spot…his supporters will also go crazy with that logic, as they have no idea that she stayed in for us and because she should have been able to win had the supers and DNC not been in Obama’s pocket.)
Regardless, around 6:30, the media began reporting that Hillary would concede on Friday. Apparently, she hadn’t reported this to the media and they were again frustrated with the media’s attempt to strong arm her into conceding on Friday. Despite the fact that she was going to concede, she wanted it on her own terms. Thus, she decided to set a date to concede, but scheduled it for Saturday-one last opportunity to stick it t o the media (we love Hillary for that).
About one hour after that, Obama issued a statement admitting that Hillary did not negotiate anything before indicating she would concede. Once again, he believed it would make him look good to appear “gracious”, but clearly fails to realize that her supporters are not the idiots that he and his supporters think we are.
It seems that today, his supporters are starting to figure out that they will need her supporters to win the election (though it’s too little, too late in my opinion… and are attempting to opportunistically seize upon the moment. Take this very unifying and non-condescending article in which an Obama supporter attempts to explain why the morons, also known as Hillary’s supporters, should will vote Obama…unless they really are the uneducated, self centered idiots that he clearly thinks they are:
The last statement of the article speaks volumes:
I guess I’m (as an Obama supporter )not self centered enough to throw my daughters chance at a happy life away by throwing a vote McCain’s way. (like those selfish Hilary supporters) I (unlike Hillary’s supporters) have this petty little thing called a conscience. It forces me to make decisions while viewing the consequences to everyone (hmm….how very giving and kind of you…wish Hillary’s supporters could be a little more like that).
This primary has been bitter and divisive. Hillary supporters have been insulted and attacked for having strong beliefs and conscience. So though I have been a democrat all my life, I will vote for Mccain or abstain from voting because there is NO way I will vote for Obama. This election is over, there is no way a democrat will win the election with so much bitterness and division - and the only ones to blaim are the Obamafans with their obssessive slandering attacks against anyone who had an opinion that wasn’t theirs.
excellent comment, tina. agree completely that the election is over - even before it began. the dnc, so-called party “leaders,” and complicit media made sure of that by anointing mr unelectable.
we need to vote for mccain, though, rather than just stay home - to add 1 vote to the number obama will need to come up with and to send a loud and clear message to the party that their tactics have backfired.
Jesse Jackson compared it to OJ killing a white woman.
How terrible.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010400117.html
I really fear for my life if this Obama nutcase gets in.