Screw You Roger Simon!
By PaganPower on June 5, 2008 at 3:43 AM in ABC News, Barack Obama, DNC, Hillary Clinton, Obamedia, Politico, Republicans
Last night’s Politico article by Roger Simon is particularly offensive. He not only offends Hillary but does his best to minimize the importance of the nearly 18 million people that voted for her. And as one of those record breaking millions I am mad as hell. I am sure you know the rest.
Obama’s first test: Handling Hillary
Barack Obama would like to remind you of something: He won and she didn’t. It’s about him now and not her. He has made history, and she is history.
~snip~
For someone giving indications she would like to be Obama’s running mate, Clinton was surprisingly ungracious. In fact, if you had just awakened from a (blissful) 17-month sleep, you would have thought she had won.
Earth to Roger Simon: SHE DID WIN!
According to ABC News, Hillary easily beat Obama with the Popular Vote.
Clinton 1916 17,802,300
Obama 2154 17,501,751
Get that Roger in the tank for Obama from the start Simon? Over 300,000 more Americans supported Hillary than that Cult leader Obama. That means SHE won. In fact, if the DNC had not stolen delegates from Hillary and arbitrarily awarded imaginary delegates to Obama he wouldn’t have been able to claim anything last night. But the fix was in a long time ago Simon. You knew that all along.
Didn’t you? Because gasbags like you were part of the fix.
Damned Obamedia fix enabler.
So Simon thinks that because Hillary spoke the truth last night and honored her supporters, Obama should punish her. In other words, according to Simon, it is time for Obama to assume the role of the alpha male. Just what we have all been waiting for. Get em Barky!
Ruff! Ruff!
How about I pull my pants down and you can howl at the moon?
Or kiss my ass?
But her fighting words only increased the need for Obama to show that he can be strong, tough and in charge. Clinton’s unwillingness to recognize Obama as the victor only increased the need for Obama to act like a president and not like a doormat. And denying her a vice presidential slot may be a way of doing that.
And according to Simon, Obama is not going to be wasting his time trying to bring Hillary supporters into the fold.
It has been a hard-fought and sometimes bitter campaign, but Obama is not, one of his senior advisers assured me Tuesday night, going to spend a lot of time in the next few months wooing Clinton supporters whose feelings may be hurting.
“I think there are always immediate feelings of disappointment and anger,” Anita Dunn said. “But in the months ahead, he must appeal not just to the constituency groups who favored her in the primaries, but those he wants in the general election, and that includes independents and Republicans.”
Another Obama adviser, who asked not to be identified, said that he was not worried that Clinton supporters would stay angry.
Obama seems to have adopted the Alfred E. Newman “What, Me Worry?” campaign slogan. He does look a little like ole Alfred. In fact he looks a lot like him if you think about it. Especially those ears. And a MAD candidacy is all too evident.
Then the scary stuff begins.
“At the end of the day,” he went on, “Hillary supporters will look at John McCain and decide they are not going to vote for a man who will put judges on the Supreme Court who would overturn Roe v. Wade.”
I know it may come as a shock to Obama supporters but the President does not put justices on the Supreme Court. That is done by the US Senate. The same Senate now controlled by the Democrats that gave us the likes of Chief Justice John Roberts. So enough with these false boogeyman stories. They are all lies. But then again lies have been the core theme of the Obama Cult and their DNC and MSM enablers.
It is stories like these that we will all see in the coming weeks. Because the MSM (Obamedia), the DNC and the Obama Cult are going to do everything they can to minimize our importance. To them, nearly 18 million Americans that supported Hillary are inconsequential. As Hillary said of Bush, the same applies to Obama. And his political team made it very apparent last night.
To Obama we are The Invisible. He doesn’t care about us. He isn’t going to spend his time wooing us. He would rather try to make up the difference with Republicans. Now thats a Democratic party to be really proud of. Something I am sure Howard and Donna fully approve of.
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According to the DNC’s own RULES, a candidate must have 2018 in PLEDGED delegates to be the nominee. Sorry, Obama, you don’t have the numbers! You are NOT the nominee!
Oops… meant 2118
Plus the Texas caucus us still in dispute. They know Obama volunteers committed election fraud there. 200 cases, 2000 complainants! Michigan decision violated numerous DNC rules. The RBC did not have the choice of giving those Michigan delegates to Obama.
Yeah, you Hillary deadenders better fall in line.
Or else I will give you one of my disapproving Barky scowls!
And if that doesn’t work, you’ll have to deal with Michelle!
Hillary’s insurgents, that’s what we are – and proud of it.
Democracy is worth fighting for. People who voted for the Criminal in Chief pre-Rev Wright have buyers remorse. After the press flagranty pretends that Rezko doesn’t count, the people will be fully awake, connect the dots, the the full on revolution will commence.
Its essentially over for BO.
That very well might work. Her scowl makes me run for cover. She has what we used to call The Hairy Eyeball. And I want to be nowhere near that.
Hillary needs to stay in it and take it to the Convention!
“He would rather try to make up the difference with Republicans.”
Sound political strategy. Marxist Republicans are a huge demographic in this country.
lol!
so saddened
Glad to see you left that fucked up thread. I e-mailed LJ and told him what happened so we should be ok now. Anyway i`m REALLY off to bed now so Don`t believe anymore from me now until at least noon.
thanks harp!!!!!!!!!
Today, I received a letter from Hillary about Saturday’s event in D.C., when she will rally her supporters to lend a hand to Barack Obama’s candidacy. As much as I love Hillary, I’m afraid that my love and affection are non-transferable. A long time ago, Senator Obama, his wife and his supporters made it very clear that they don’t want me and the likes of me. Well, I’ve got news for the Obama campaign team and the rest of the Democratic Party leadership: We don’t want you either. This also goes for the most vile, vicious and ungracious Obamabots out there: START LOOKING FOR A GOOD SHRINK ‘CAUSE YOU GUYS WILL GET WHACKED IN NOVEMBER! Talk is cheap because hell hath no fury… And we will give you a taste of it!
You expressed my opinion of the abuser Obama very nicely!!
snObama is a very sick individual. He is the ENEMY.
He stands for nothing that I can recognize as American values.
I’m no longer a democrat — so whatever the idiots who are now in control do — I really could care less. Everything is now THEIR problem — and their responsibility. I’m an Independent and probably will never call myself a democrat again.
There is no way that I would EVER vote for snObama. As I see it — the democratic political machine figured out how to loot money (taxpayer’s money) faster and better than the Republicans. The people who are bankrolling Obama EXPECT a return on their investment — they expect to be part of the looting of the US treasury. They’ve seen the massive theft by the Cheney – bush gang — and they feel they can become richer.
There will be NO Universal Health care — just more looting of the middle class. The new religion will be “Free Market”.
Yes. And it’s not only Obama. It’s Moo-Elite-Sauce who is despicable, Ariana Humpington, and all the rest. These people are laughably subhuman.
That’s why I will never click on her site not even to follow a link. Ditto Matt Drudge!
oh my god…
Obama made history by stealing votes for the presidential primary…
Stealing votes doesn’t look very presidential…
not in Zimbabwe… not in the United States…
Americans will fight Obama every step of the way…
Nobody is going to sabotage, destroy or taint our democratic process…
We are united under the true democratic principles of the great country…
Change is coming, this time our votes are going to count!
Thye’re also going to try to steal the GE. That’s why Brazile’s “Message to base: Stay home” is so key. They already know McCain is despised among his own crowd. The Conservatives may just sit this one out to reign supreme in 2012. If Obama can suppress the bitter, feminist, senior, latino vote, they can keep the vote close enough to steal it Chicago style. Look for the hackers to play a key roll where Diebold machines are. And let’s not forget the dead people.
And Obama’s supporters have already declared war on latinos. They have no intention of wooing these people. What they will do on Election Day is confuse bilingual voters where they can, even intimidate.
I’m calling it “turn about fair play.” The Democrats and the Party leaders are in on it will pay the Repubs back for 2000 and there’s nothing the Repubs can say about it.
My thanks to Senator Obama for making his black half the face for this. He is a race-baiting disgrace. I’ve lived side-by-side with latinos all my life. I look for relations to get very strained. And in some areas of the country, it’s already at openly hostile levels even violent where gang warfare is in play. Thank God I’m bilingual.
I can’t believe how ugly the US has become.
I am really very tired of our elections being rigged and stolen…I wouldn’t blame Florida if the Democrats never got another single vote from that State. I heard months ago that some international group (or perhaps the UN?) had been asked to monitor our elections in November. Can you believe it has come to that in our country? I never even considered the reason behind DB’s recommendation for the Base to stay home on election day. I’m certain you are right, Mimi, about the reason! I think DB will realize she was wrong to say that…Republicans will be loyal to McCain. They won’t give away the top prize.
Besides being idiots, you people can’t count. Go reread the column from ABC news. She only won the popular vote if you count votes that by Hillary’s own admission, don’t count for anything. Idiots.
More name calling, just what I would expect from Obamabots who do not have the wisdom to discuss this on a mature level. Go back to kindergarten and learn “all you need to know” about life.
If anyone is an idiot here it is you. How dare you make the claim that the free exercise of the voices/votes of any citizens of the United Sates are illegitimate in any fashion. Take your fascism and go elsewhere. The states of Michigan and Florida recognized and ratified the results of the elections. Unless you intend to start another civil war I suggest you STFU. Wanker!
Watcha worried about, Ralphie? Nothing tangible we can see. It must be your own fear that you’re as psychologically screwed up as you yourself are beginning to suspect. Good luck loser – because with Barry’s effete health care programme you won’t get a sou.
Ralphie, why are you so bitter man?
Ralphie, Ralphie….you have a serious problem with truth Ralphie:
HRC won the popular vote and BO is an illegitimate. Obama is candidate who is comlicit to the vote stealing in MI. Tell me how do you justify
Obama getting and accepting 4 delegates representing people who went to the voting ooth and VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON?
Obama LOST the popular vote.
Ralphie, please don’t be such a sore loser.
Let me ask this again:
Since HRC agreed to the vote compromise in Michigan and Florida, and Obama could have had half the delegates but chose not to take that many, how did he ’steal’ anything? (Fourth time, no answers yet)
And why the obsession with the popular vote? It was never in play, and If you count EVERYTHING it’s not even assured that Clinton won it.
Ralphie, why are you so bitter man?
Ralphie, Ralphie….you have a serious problem with truth Ralphie:
HRC won the popular vote and BO is an illegitimate nominee…Nothing will change that; it is a historical fact already.
Obama was complicit to the vote stealing in MI.
Tell me how do you justify
Obama getting and accepting 4 delegates representing people who went to the voting ooth and VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON?
Obama LOST the popular vote.
Ralphie, please don’t be such a sore loser.
Thuggery, bullying, lying, cheating, stealing..where have we heard this all before???
Bush divided the good from the bad,
Rove divided the morons from the dumbed down people,
and the DNC and Obama will show us how it all works together now.
Obama’s camp has zero integrity. ZERO.
Thuggery, bullying, lying, cheating, stealing..where have we heard this all before???
Uh – trick question right?
Otherwise I’d say ‘GERMANY 1932‘.
Do I win a prize?
Ralphie, there’s sense in trying to talk them off the ledge. They should put an end to their misery and just jump already!
Well, Ralphie & Parallel Universe, in a few months, you guys will jump – but not for joy, unless you also fancy having Cindy McCain as the next First Lady (& she will be!).
Ummm, I bet you thought Obama couldn’t beat Hillary, either, right? She was a MUCH harder candidate to beat than McCain ever could be. I can’t speak for Ralphie, but I LOVE Obama’s chances in November. See you at his Inauguration (or Denver… if you dare)!
Remember who controls the elections? Dream on. The real fix is already in the works. You fell for an illusion, But Bush holds all the cards.
Well, the Chimperor and Darth Cheney do act like Marxist dictators at times…
Clinton’s unwillingness to recognize Obama as the victor only increased the need for Obama to act like a president
But he’s not, and hopefully won’t, be a president yet.
There’s nothing anyone can say that would make me vote for Obama on any ticket. Not now, not in November, NEVER.
I think we need to take to the streets this time around, and I mean NOW. Not in August, NOW. Strike while the iron is hot. Democracy is at stake here, and if we are quiet about it, we risk losing it all. Mind you, I’m not just talking about losing an election here….I mean democracy! He hasn’t gotten the necessary pledged delegates, and here we go again, being told to shut up and concede for the good of the party. Donna Brazile said way back that it was all worked out. She meant “rigged.” This is fraud. Are we going to stand for this? I want Howard Dean’s head on a platter, and I want to kick all the bums out of the DNC…Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Carter, Daeschle, et al! Bring your signs, your marching shoes and play the Beatles’ REVOLUTION really loud! I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take it anymore!
I’m with you!
Hillary needs to hold her army together. We need to merge with Republicans if necessary.
COUNTRY FIRST, PARTY THIRD
And the Revolution should be led by Geraldine Ferraro! She knows what’s gone down here. So do the Clintons. I cannot believe people are just going to sit back and let the DNC get away with stealing votes from Hillary to give to Obama WHOSE NAME WASN’T EVEN ON THE MICHIGAN BALLOT!!!! Those votes were CERTIFIED. Are Michiganders just going to sit back and take that shit?
As long as they are allowed to get away with stealing this election, they will continue to do this crap. The people really have lost control of THEIR Government! It isn’t ours anymore. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely and we have just witnessed it.
I want a NEW party! THE PEOPLE’S DEMOCRATIC PARTY!
Howard Dean is no longer in charge. As of today Obama’s guy is taking over.
Barack Obama will reach out to the leader of Iran, no conditions; Hillary supporters — eh, not so much.
But what is REALLY happening???
I am so confused and worried. One report says “concede” another says suspend, yet another says” endorse.” What is happening???
It seems as is she is really being pushed completely out. Can they do that?? Why are they doing that?? They’ve never done it before.
What is going on?
I admit, I am just a lurker here, but I come here to feel better, and today I can not find anywhere to feel better.
Supposedly -
She is suspending and endorsing Obama.
But – “Clinton is also exploring options to retain her delegates and promote her issues, including a signature call for universal health care.”
Clinton’s not stupid – she must know about the “whitey” tape, the Rezko verdict and Obama’s role in it, as well as numerous other things. The Odinga story hasn’t even really broke yet.
Politics can change very quickly – and one never knows what may happen. Then again – the Democratic Party has been prone to political suicide often for the past 40 years. Oh well, 2012 then.
The DC elites want her to concede because they know that if the shit hits the fan on BO, SHE can step in and be the nominee. THEY don’t want that. They want her OUT..period. They probably have someone else THEY want to step in and be the nominee….another DC elitist.
She will NEVER concede. She has too many delegates and a lot of control and will retain that power. She knows about BO’s past relationships. She knows about the Michelle whitey video. She knows that if that he goes down, she will be the nominee.
They can push her out of this contest, but they cannot force her to relinquish her delegates and concede. They’re hers and she’s keeping them.
If core Democrats won’t support him because of his record, associations, and questionable patriotism – does he REALLY believe Republicans and Independents will?
Wow – he’s really starting to believe the crap he talks about being “the one” and the messiah. Self-delusion, anyone?
excellent point. is he truly so deluded by his own hype that he thinks repubs and indies will go for him after the truth about him starts to come out?
admittedly, the truth will only trickle out, given the msm’s probably criminal complicity, but even a trickle should be enough to sink this phony, unqualified, racist, sexist, crooked campaign. or have we entered a parallel universe where none of that matters?
He is a cult leader, not a natural born leader of a country. He believes his own hype, in fact he needs it otherwise he’s lost. Look at his childhood story. Obama’s is a fractured personality. I wonder if his white educated supporters have histories of substance abuse. The mentality is cult-like, and it is a lot like AA, for example.
Thats because his Democrat for a Day shit brought quite a few Hillary hating Republicans to him in the early states like Iowa. With out them Obama would have never came close there. But they will NEVER vote for Obama in the GE. His whole campaign has been based on the hope that once he stole the nomination, all Democrats would line up behind him like sheep. The DNC Elite like Pelosi might have, but true Democrats WONT. We shall make sure Nancy Pelosi is NEVER even elected dog catcher after this!
Right after indies and reps, Obama is going after the typical white person demo, and if he has time the bitter God-and-guns crowd.
But it has to be obvious, if he has alienated so many of us, what possible reason would a republican have to vote for him?
Hell, he is losing more voters every day. What is the point of this forced mess? It destroys any possible future for him and makes the dems look really stupid.
I just am freaking out here. Nothing this year is making much sense at all.
How nice of the Obamabots to come here and try to sweet talk us into supporting The Fraudulent One. “You people are idiots?” Didn’t get the “unity” memo, Ralphie? We should “jump off the ledge?” Why, you must be living in a parallel universe where Barry can get elected without our votes. Guess what? He can’t–and he won’t.
I would expect an arrogant, egotistical, chauvinist pig like Obama to dismiss Hillary’s voters, and underestimate the depth and longevity of their anger. But it really is funny that someone like Roger Simon would be engaging in a fit of male chest-thumping. What a nerd.
For those that want to see the multiple scenarios:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/06/popular-vote-scenario-tester.html
LOVE IT!
Hillary would win hands down.
If Hillary supporters back Obama, he might squeek by. We wont! So he wouldn’t, and thats before any more skeletons fall out of his closet.
I saw yesterday, that there is a new book hitting stands by a reporter from a Chicago newspaper who takes an in depth look at Obama and the author says, will make everyone not vote for Obama.
Obamessiah is finished any way you slice it.
POdVet
The title of the book?
stay strong!
Hillary might surprise everyone… as we witnessed all week there have been numerous news stories stating she has quit…
make no mistake, we support Hillary and we respect her decision whatever it may be but we will not stand by while votes are stolen…
A. Hillary
B. McCain
The theory that Obama is a tool of the DNC bigwigs to force out Hillary is making more sense by the day.
It’s an intraparty coup. They don’t care if the coalition is destroyed, they’ve decided Hillary must go! Not for Obama’s sake, to gain control of the party and kick Hillary to the curb.
Almost like in the Soviet Union post-Stalin.
Anyone who votes Obama supports the coup. The humiliating part is she has to campaign for him. But make no mistake, she got the long knives in her.
She didn’t want to get out – but Pelosi and Reid and Dean are mighty powerful and forced all undeclared superdelegates to immediately back Obama or face heavy consequences in the party. Some tried to resist – hence Obama only got exactly what the media reported number of delegates was instead of the bus-load he was promising all week. Many didn’t want to be seen with him when the corruption and anti-American charges come out. Notice how no party big-whigs were paraded up on the stage as they usually are.
The devastating ending point came though when even some of Hillary’s most ardent supporters like Charlie Rangle told her it was over and that she MUST endorse Obama — Hillary knew nothing would change their minds if they got to these people too.
They don’t care that Obama is unelectable – in their minds, the DNC party leaders truly believe people hate Bush so much that they will line up like sheep like in 2000 and 2004. They just don’t get that we think he is too inexperienced, and has too many corrupt and terrorist close working connections, not to mention the hate whitey and America part. Do they truly think we would ever put party before country? We are always Americans first – and now, not even Democrats second.
Reagan summed it up beautifully:
I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.
At least we’ll all be here to witness the biggest loss in presidential politics since George McGovern in 1972.
Hillary 2012 or 2008 still if “whitey” tape emerges before Aug 31 (fingers crossed).
anyone who votes Obama supports stealing votes and easily the most corrupt group of thugs to ever be associated with politics in any country…
If Obama hadn’t stolen votes last saturday many Hillary supporters would have come around and supported the nominee
Stealing votes for Unity is never going to work…
the concept is something only a criminal could invent….
YOU are the idiot —
Obama is going to be in jail. He is a crook — he has been busy looting Chicago — the old Pay to Play game.
Go to hell — Obamabot TROLL. Your diaper needs changing. You stinky mofo bastard.
The media LOVES Hillary. MSNBC : Obama HQ Fox : Mccain HQ CNN : In the tank but like to pretend their not.
gee, isn’t registering dead voters an old chicago vote stealing trick?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/04/dead-voters-still-showing-up-on-election-records-puzzling-officials/
oh dear…
I saw yesterday, that there is a new book hitting stands by a reporter from a Chicago newspaper who takes an in depth look at Obama and the author says, will make everyone not vote for Obama.
Any more details?
i hope this book is by John Kass – google his name…
he has written so much regarding corruption in chicago
this means obama, rezko and daley…
How about this scenario;, The MSM really wants John McCain, afterall they belong to corporate america, so they build up BO, tear down Hillary, feel sooooo good about themselves because they have salved their collective guilty conscience by hyping the historic nature of a party candidate who is african american, thereby saying that they are really progressive, then…….drum roll….Now the fun begins- They love to tear down what they have built up so they start the ‘real’ investigating and reporting- all the snarky connections, Michellegate, really no substance etc etc. They can defend themselves against charges of racism by saying that they treated him with kid gloves (which is racist in and of itself in case they didn’t realize) but now BO has to really prove himself and he is found wanting.
Sorry if this seems disjointed but I haven’t had enough coffee yet- COFFEE, NOT LATTE OR KOOL_AID
One of my very progressive friends in NY told me she voted for Obama in the primary, because she knew HRC would win. Then she wouldn’t feel guilty when she voted for McCain in the fall.
Hi Karen:
For someone who hasn’t yet had her daily dose of caffeine your analysis is remarkably insightful!
I myself am an AA, but believe this to be the case through and TRUE!
The world is upside down…I am in deep mourning, just listening to the musical channels on TV (gospel, Jazz….) but have not completely given up hope.
Stopped going to TM, just Hillaryis44, and here….I think NQ is becoming too hate-filled…the Obamazoids are drawing us out, and bringing out the worst in most folks. . I personally believe in justice and competence; I strongly advocate a major blow-back to the DNC. The only way to do so is to vote Repug all the way…as true Democrats, we cannot condone hate, misogyny, manipulations and THEFT.
I wish I could give you more JB, I noticed it in passing while surfing, but can’t remember where. I will try to find it and let you know when I do. The wallstreet journal article kinda grabbed my attention at the wrong moment
You are SOOOOO right about the no universal health care – after all, what board was Michelle on? Yep, University of Chicago Hospitals board. Obama learned well in Chicago about how to divert government funds into front programs like foundation boards, churches’ social programs, community projects — only to have it all go towards paying the ENORMOUS salaries of people sitting on those boards like Pfleger, Wright, Michelle, and Ayers and projects that somehow directly benefit their pocket books. Those poor people in Chicago, and now – all of America if he’s elected. Disgusting – thank goodness he won’t though.
There is no way in hell I would ever vote for Obama.
I think he hates America and white people.
It seems to me that the democratic leadership is deliberately throwing this election.
As others have pointed out — people are waking up and really stopping to take a look at snObama.
He has NOT won the major states (except for Illinois and that was probably with help from the dead).
The GOP will hit him with whatever it takes to eliminate him EARLY. McCain will have a cake walk to the White House.
The core democrats will NOT be voting for snObama — he’s made it clear that he does not want nor need our votes.
snObama is UNELECTABLE — he will lose. He is a big fat Zero. Plus he has a jail cell waiting for him. Rezko will probably start singing — Obama was deeply involved in the “Pay to Play” racket. He was responsible for pushing the bill through the Illinois legislature to change the laws which enabled the current corrupt system.
So it would seem that the democratic leadership is also very dirty — they’ve disregarded the will of the voters.
Clinton is being very stupid to throw her support to snObama — which is what she said she is going to do in the email I just read and deleted.
snObama is a crook — and his wife is a racist.
Back to the question — why does the democratic leadership want to throw this election?
So Hillary will concede on saturday, They still have hate for her, This morning I am very sad for AMERICA. I am a TWW who will NEVER EVER EVER vote for snobama.
I KNOW he hates America and he hates white — the middle class whites and women especially he hates middle aged white women.
Yep — I don’t vote for racists, sexist pigs.
Pampers Ovomit, enjoy this now you oversized petulant baby-man because this is going to be your only chance to savor anything remotely resembling victory. Just remember that you will always be the Barry Bonds of politics, crossing the finish line with 59 unearned delegates with the rotting carcass of the Democratic Party Unity Pony strapped to your back. The only good thing about you being the presumptive nominee is that, if your candidacy survives your Summer of Implosion, I’ll get to vote against you again. Sweet dreams sweetie!
i am just a lurker. I used to enjoy TM blogs. Now, not much and may not go there anymore. I can’t bear to read Taylor supporting Obama. I come here and Texas Darlin blog. I look forward to the posts of ex-Marshans here.
Larry, please don’t stop. I believe you that the tape is there. I have still my hopes up for Hillary, Madame President!
It is a shame that Taylor has decided to toe the party line. Especially since she knows just exactly how sexist and racist the Obama camp has been this go round. But some folks are true believers. And even though I disagree with her I respect her decision. I hate to think that I would write anything that would disparage Taylor. And I sincerely hope that I never have to.
But I guess that since she has finally been profiled in the Washington Post and hopped aboard the Hope Express she feels that she going somewhere. I really don’t know. I would say that I am saddened by her decision but since Obama has been saddened by those close to him so much, saying so sort of loses it’s sincerity.
Hello! i am just a lurker. I used to enjoy TM blogs. Now, not much and may not go there anymore. I can’t bear to read Taylor supporting Obama. I come here and Texas Darlin blog. I look forward to the posts of ex-Marshans here.
Larry, please don’t stop. I believe you that the tape is there. I have still my hopes up for Hillary, Madame President!
What I understand is, If Hillary suspends her election it means she’s going to spa to recharge and still keep her delegates while Obama and McCain will beat each other. On the other hand, if she concedes thats the end of the story and basically giving up her delegates. There’s no need for her to concede because the real coronation really will happen in Denver. It’s the super delegates will decide for POTUS. This super delegates whose supporting Obama can still change their mind.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Thanks.
Actually jyotinc ANY delegate can change their mind whether they are considered committed or SD. Hopefully Hillary will just suspend and not concede. If she does that she basically releases her delegates. However, she could suspend, congradulate BO, say she believes in unity etc etc, sit back, let the ‘GE begin’ , watch as the gloves come off, see what comes out and at the convention concede. The DVD, video, whatever, will more likely not come out until after Aug. if it in fact exists. Therefore, if that is the most volitile info out there, and it doesn’t come out until after Aug, BO will be coronated. If Hillary wants to preserve any political cache and not be treated like a pariah she will be advised to play nice by the party bigwigs. Personally, I would love to see a strong 3rd party and maybe Hillary is the only one who could raise enough money to make one viable (and that is the reason a 3rd party has never really taken hold, because none can raise enough money).
The slow bleed of Obambi has to begin in earnest. 527 groups must get organized to put out some ads telling the truth obaout Obambi, so that the convention will swing Hillary’s way at the end of August in Denver. People STILL don’t know this guy, just his speeches.
Roger Simon has ISSUES!
Lots of projection going on there.
Obamatons: Hillary is still very much in the race! We have until August 25 to actually select a nominee. We are now in the second half of the campaign. In case you did not notice on Saturday Hillary will only be suspending her campaign. By doing this she keeps her delegates and can still seek the nomination and we will help her get the nomination.
Now that your pals in the MSM have anointed Obama the nominee you won’t have them bashing Hillary any longer. And already the MSM is turning on Obama as we warned you. You won’t be able to bash Hillary as she supports Obama for party unity. Hillary will support party unity because she will have to fix this disaster you and Obama have created. Sorry Obamatons you will have to fight your battle on three fronts:
1. Keeping your supporters from jumping ship.
2. Fighting the GOP.
3. Fighting us Hillary supporters without bashing Hillary since she supports Obama (for now) for party unity. We still see Hillary taking the nomination no matter how hard you click your ruby slippers that we just go away.
Sorry but we won’t be going anywhere. Obama limped over the voting portion of the finish line. Hillary charged over by winning the popular vote. There is no nominee until August 25.
In the end the DNC will be begging the Clinton’s to save the party and Hillary will be our next president. I hope the Clinton’s take a long vacation sipping pina coladas on the beach while they laugh there asses off while Obama and your trolls spin your wheels for the next 2 months.
Hillary ‘08 + ‘12!
I wonder how Obama plans on winning w/o the majority of Hillary supporters and w/o being able to cheat his way through the election…
To my mind, she doesn’t owe the DNC a damn thing since not once, not one single time did they stand up for her.
Its strategy. She has to play along and don’t forget she also has to keep the party together just enough until Obama implodes this summer before the convention. To play the game Hillary has to keep her uniform on and be on the team.
The Rezko verdict crystallizes everything. Even if the MSM only gives a glimpse of the verdict, many more people can then research it for themselves and be appalled at what’s going on. Despite NBC MSNBC diversion tactics ‘vetting Bill Clinton over his library contributors’.
Oh really, vetting you say. What a concept?
I can’t wait until the movie comes out on this. The behind the scenes of the MSM machinations should be very interesting.
You didn’t hear? Obama has his own pair of ruby slippers! And he’s clicking them madly!
I would never want to see Clinton help out Obama by being on the ticket, but I am still shocked of his lack of understanding that he can not simply carry her supporters because of Roe v. Wade! He spouts off that he is a unifier throughout this campaign and then can’t even get past his own ego to unify the party by asking HRC to be on the ticket?! Another lie perpetrated by Obama and so similar to GW – I am a uniter, not a divider. Yeah right! I can’t wait to see this a-hole go down in flames, along with Dean, Pelosi and Richardson! And I beleive it will happen before November.
Obama was selected not elected!!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66213
Comment by Colin | 2008-06-04 22:28:39
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Yes, well, appealing to the Independents worked real well for him in West Virginia, where he didn’t win ANY county in that state. Not one county bought his BS.
Can any one independant from her campain bring those delegates fraud cases to court or what ever to challenge the count. The states are involve in the primaries so it is not all the DNC, so if there are cases of fraud why can’t we involve the gov
This is what bothers me most about the comments I read from Obama supporters. Here is what I meant by cult-like behavior and other reasons I will not vote for Obama under any circumstances:
1. Totalistic ideology which I have not seen backed up by Obama’s policy or voting record.
2. An authoritarian system where a Democrat is told they will be destroyed or corrupted by negative pressures and that they can maintain their purity within the groups ranks.
3. The thought-terminating clichés, the platitudes and group speak are reminiscent of cult behavior.
4. The role of superdelegates, many of which are elected officials, who allow self-interest to sway their decision-making.
5. The thwarting of the democratic process in this election and the unjust outcome involving Michigan pledged delegates. FOR THE RECORD: Uncommitted was four different candidates and not one actual entity running for the presidency.
6. McCain is the presumed nominee yet Obama is now the official nominee among his supporters. Neither party has yet held its convention where pledged and automatic delegates vote; their endorsements may change at any point until then.
7. Voters are allowed to and should be encouraged to vote their consciences. To say that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were identical in policy and in experience is laughable and insulting to both these candidates. Hillary may choose to continue with the Democratic party. Her supporters are not obligated.
8. The use of wedge issues which the Democrats have long accused the Republicans of. Let’s be real now.
9. The diluting of individuality. Not choosing the “Democratic” way will usually lead to humiliation (”you’re not a real Democrat”?), damnation or death (”congratulate yourself on having signed the death warrants of thousands of American soldiers if you vote for the Republican.”)
10. The identity politics employed throughout these primaries. The role of the media in fanning these flames. It is a real turn-off.
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. Alexis de Tocqueville
Thank you so much PaganPower for continuing to speak the truth for those of us who don’t have a platform from which to make our voices heard. The sentiments of that sexist guy at Politico is the reason Hillary had such a unfair shake. Our PATRIARCHAL country doesn’t know what to do when I strong woman comes along and doesn’t defer to a less experienced and able man. It scares the heck out of men and women alike who think that the world will spin off its axis if women and men relate to each other in any way other than what has been the norm in patriarchy. Hillary has every right to be strong and not bow to Obama. Sadly, she will concede Saturday. I will never vote for the least competent of the last two standing candidates. Even if Hillary — god forbid — should end up as the VP on the ticket. Thanks again NoQuarter for the courage and character to keep speaking to your convictions with humility and substantiated by fact. Your fan, Mom4Hillary
The latest I read was she is suspending, but keeping her delegates, and will support but not endorse.
Very important distinction.
Delegates are boning up on Rezko et al, and they should be sufficiently scared of Obama’s prospects.
I hope the Sack o’ Shite had to pay dearly for that.
Hey – how about writing in Tony Rezko for president?
the need for Obama to show that he can be strong, tough and in charge
LMAO. This the wimp who can’t debate, can’t talk one on one, gets totally out of it trying to answer tough questions on The View or for George S? The poor loser sod who can’t even finish a freaking sausage?
What did Uppity call it? Trading a George W Bush (R) for a George W Bush (D). Yeah that’s it all right.
You gotta wonder at the pathology of these people. What do they win? They’re psychologically sick. They’re going to need deprogramming. But they’ll never get it. Things will only get worse and they’ll be charging a new windmill in half a year.
It’s no wonder the world’s so screwed up with idiots like that.
the need for Obama to show that he can be strong, tough and in charge
Uh – wasn’t he supposed to do this before you spineless losers voted for him?
Our PATRIARCHAL country doesn’t know what to do when I strong woman comes along and doesn’t defer to a less experienced and able man. It scares the heck out of men and women alike who think that the world will spin off its axis if women and men relate to each other in any way other than what has been the norm in patriarchy.
Bingo. Matriarchies aren’t exactly known for dicking over people, making wars, or suffering from what George Carlin calls ‘dick fear’. But the US is more than patriarchic. It’s the most advanced form: the militaristic. Where you see an enemy around every corner, have to have the flag waving everywhere in case someone thinks you’re not ‘in line’, and schools people to be insensitive to murdering other people. All this for more gold in the coffers of those who already have more than anything.
A matriarchy would end this. Thereof the paranoia and fear. Thereof the MSM campaign. Thereof the choice of an unknown. As anything’s better than losing wealth to some matriarchy idealists who believe in fairness and justice.
You’re such a stupid git. You just don’t get it. I guess wisdom comes at the age of 20. So you obviously have a way to go.
Look and listen real hard: this isn’t the bloody Super Bowl. This is about people’s lives. If you win – and it looks ridiculous to think you can – but even if you do – what do you personally gain?
Nothing. Whilst everyone – and I mean EVERYONE – loses. Big.
Were your ancestors supporters of National Socialism too?
If I were Hillary and Bill I’d campaign ONCE for him and go on vacation. Then she can say she DID campaign for him and the assholes can’t say she didn’t. I wouldn’t do any more for that SOB than I had to….for appearance sake.
Then, behind the scenes start working on a NEW PARTY. If anyone could get a 3rd Party off the ground with REAL power, it’s Bill and Hill. I really wish she’d run as an Independent and tell the DC elites to shove it. She could take her 18 MILLION voters with her and end BO’s Presidential run. He could never win with her in as an Independent.
LO Parallel Universe: yep, there is precisely where you’ll live that in a parrallel universe; very appropriate. Hurry, the ward guard is coming to take you back to your room.
LOL Parallel Universe: yep, there is precisely where you’ll live that in a parrallel universe; very appropriate. Hurry, the ward guard is coming to take you back to your room.
She’s not conceding. She’s just suspending her campaign and retaining her delegates.
The “Waaaaah!” Primary
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The–Waaaaah—Primary-by-JC-Garrett-080603-455.html
Don’t forget Obama campaigned in Florida. The roolz say he should get no votes there.
Not that I expect any of these issues to be acted upon.
It’s not just Simon, it’s the entire media. Did anyone else hear Tweety say Hillary shouldn’t be VP because she can’t “OBEY.” He said this several times, that the VP must obey. Of course, I haven’t heard anyone saying Rendell or Romney must obey.
They keep lying and lying. Today an O campaign manager said he’s getting hundreds of calls from Hillary supporters asking to sign up for Obama. It’s probably whose livelihood has been working for Hillary and need to pay their bills now, which is understandable. He doesn’t say that. I don’t believe real Hillary voters would be switching over so easily. No one I know is.
The question is what do we do now to make them hear us?
If you haven’t already changed your party to Independent, please do it this week. Many have already done this, but we hear nothing about it. Maybe we can get the numbers somehow and write about it.
I think we need some more actions to take so they can’t completely forget us. Any ideas? Without a leader it’s very difficult. I think Hillary understands this. It might be good to call her office and ask them. I don’t think she wants to abandon us, but the media keeps bullying her to force her to do this. I can’t watch any more of this.
We need some action groups. Media reform would be a top priority. This whole campaign has been orchestrated by the media. It’s very disgusting.
The rules say HRC should get no votes in Florida either, but nobody on this site is calling for that. Why is that?
If Obama had removed his name from the ballot in Florida he would have had to resign from the race altogether. That’s the law. As for the ‘campaigning’ – ask the networks. Obama tried to remove the buy from Floriday and the networks couldn’t do it.
Next you’ll be blaming him for the heartbreak of psoriasis.
Thankfully as a latte liberal I have excellent healthcare. I also learned how to count and how silly it is to count Puerto Rico. Let’s have a primary in Kenya and count those votes too. What, do you people hate democracy?
Palestine gives free health care these days, well good for you, hows the bunker today?
how silly it is to count Puerto Rico
Not count US citizens?
What, do you people hate democracy?
Votes = democracy. SO say we all.
Aren’t pledged delegates a fixed number–3434? If so, where did Obama find 2154 pledged delegates (ABC)? Hillary had 1639 pledged delegates, leaving 1795 pledged delegates for Obama. Neither Hillary or Obama reached the needed number of 2118 pledged delegates needed to win.
Yep, but the changed the rules for Barfy like they did saturday!
Guess they wanted to satisfy a segment of the population before Barky is dragged off to jail!
Nettie,
I agree. We should have done this in 2000. That set a a very dangerous precedent back then. Obama’s already on record as saying he won’t woo Clinton’s supporters. What does everybody think that means? Oh they will tell you that they are interested in these Republicans and Independents, but that’s just a cover. They are using psychological warfare to suppress the vote so that they can keep the election close enough to steal it. Add to that all the Conservatives who may want to sit this out because they hate McCain.
The Dem leaders are in on it. I’m calling it: “Operation turn about fair play.” Look for Ohio to play a big role in the theft. (payback for 2004) BTW, Obama doesn’t care about losing Florida.
(Read my post upthread)
She will NOT be endorsing Obama: she will merely ask her supporters to support Obama (BIG DIFFERENCE). She is doing what a Dem. Party member is supposed to do (minimum). If she doesn’t do/say the minimum the MSM and Obama supporters will villify her EVEN MORE! She has class and Obama is a jackass.
I’m a Marxist Republican!
Hmmmm. How are my energy stocks doing?
Now where is that damn Wall Street Journal?!
WE MUST DEFEAT OBAMA THIS NOVEMBER!
AT ALL COSTS.
For the first time in my life, I am holding my nose and pulling for the Republcans (for President anyway)
John McCain and Cindy are fine americans. Dont agree with him on everything, but at least I TRUST him.
Obama is SCUM. His supporters are FOOLS, and the media makes me SICK.
Nuff said.
Why would Obama spend time wooing white power scum like the bloggers and fans of this site?
He shouldn’t.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Because he can’t win with out us!!
I was horribly offended by Simon’s article and posted a comment at Politico saying so. What if Sen. Clinton had rightfully been nominated and someone wrote an article with the headline “Handling Barack”? The outcry of racism would have been so bad that the writer would have had to go into hiding.
Democrats for McCain….I like it!
Burn in hell roger simon. Come November, your boy will be history, with no political future and Hillary will run again in four years, plus she is still a senator remember. HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT HISTORY. SHE IS JUST BEGINNING. They continually make the mistake of underestimating Hillary.
Get Over It … Retarded Republicans …
Hillary didn’t recognize hussein obama as the victor BECAUSE HE ISN’T. He did not win this through the will of the voters but rather is the choice of the scum in the media and DNC establishment. If there is any justice in the universe roger simon will get a fatal illness.
It is not enough that their empty vessel of a candidate was handed the nomination unearned. These media malcontents still feel the need to go after Hillary with a vengeance. Well perhaps we should look on the bright side, that is, they will only further alienate Hillary supporters which will help McCain come November.
Hillary won the popular vote if you include the votes cast in Bosnia.
What fantasy does Obama live in to think he can get Republican voters? Half of the democrats don’t approve of his associates. Everyone knows he doesn’t understand taxes. Sure the republicans are firm believers in national defense so have your buddy Ayers on the National Security Council or how about Secretary of Defense.Any regular republican is going to go for that one. Republicans may not like McCain, but they are going to like him better than Obama.
But you never know, is the general electorate willing to suspend belief again for another election? This will be the third one.