Speaking with Dragons
By CRAIG DELLA PENNA on June 7, 2008 at 6:05 AM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton
When speaking with dragons, it is wise to know the names of things. True names have great power and if you know the dragon’s name…
I’ve been sitting back, these last few days, watching the dust settle and seeing all the old song and dance routines, the familiar pressures brought to bear in the name of party ‘unity’ for the Democrats. The slow, grinding, patronizing “there, there, now, now” susurrus meant to lull all the plebes back to sleep.
You shouldn’t have woken us up…
“There, there,” they say, “this will all be over soon, like a bad dream and you can go back to your little lives, we’ll take care of everything.” And they are, the maneuvering to neutralize Hillary’s supporters goes on. Maybe they’ll have to give her the VP slot just to shut her up, I’m sure they’ll avoid that if they possibly can – after all, then they’d have to hire a food taster for Obama, wouldn’t they?
…because we’re not going away now…
The point of all the posturing and faux unity nonsense is not to provide a place for the actual winner of the primaries, no, it’s to provide a plausible pretext for saying – to all the ‘bitter’ people: “See? It’s all better now, come home and we’ll talk about it; there, there, now, now.” smooth as butter, “Just walk with us for a little while – until November – and then you can rest.” the sound of unruffled feathers fills the room …
…we have looked behind the curtain…
They’ll play on all the buttons: the “Party Unity” button – “Come on now, Hils, you’ve been a good little Democrat for goin’ on, what now? Forty years? Done what you’re told, toed the line – except for these last few months – but what the heck: forgive and forget, right? Just reel in your white racists, er , uh, disaffected Democrats for us and we’ll give you a big present, mebbe pay off your campaign debts – oh, don’t you worry about that legal stuff, Obama’ll fix that as soon as he takes over. Mebbe, we’ll even make you the VP, eh? How’d you like that? You could snooze all day over at the Naval Observatory, cut ribbons at mini-malls, go to parties, hold a bake sale – anything you want!”
…we have seen through your mask, we know your true name now…
The “Little Lady” button: “Aw, don’t be like that, Hils. You know we didn’t really mean it when we said you an’ Chelsea were whores – that’s just politics, you know nobody means anything they say out there, it’s just BS to rile up the voters so they’ll do what they’re told… well, sure, maybe you meant it but… Sweetie, why don’t you just simmer down and let the menfolk handle things, hmmm? Don’t you worry your pretty little head about it anymore, all right?”
…and you have had so many names through the ages, haven’t you?…
The “Patriotism” button: “You have to swallow your pride now, Hillary, it’s for the good of the country. After all, we let you go on and on through the whole, entire, useless primary season, didn’t we? Even though you knew you we were never going to give it you, right? So now it’s time to step back in line and be a good little soldier for Obama. After all you wouldn’t want that other guy to win, right? So just get your stupid supporters to shut up and do what they’re told and everything will be all right.”
…some names come from the old days: Alcibiades, Dionysius of Syracuse, Caligula, Attila…
After the ’sweeting’ ploys are done, the bouquets scattered on the ground, the courtship over, we’ll begin to see the plan unfold. The disingenuous attacks on patriotism, the false claims of moral superiority, the demonization of the ‘other’. All the classic ploys that each side will now use, identical tactics and strangely similar messages – because there is now no difference between them. The Republican fanatics we have all reviled in past contests for their lies, smears and blatant racism – will now be matched filth for filth by home-grown Democratic thugs.
…some have more recent provenance: Lenin, Beria and Stalin from Russia, Mao from China, Hitler and Goebbels from Germany, Pol Pot from Cambodia, Tojo from Japan…
The grandiose proclamations, like the one today: “no lobbyist money allowed” while the lobbyists’ lawyers sit on all the advisory boards and the money flows, unimpeded. Obama will, no doubt, be ’shocked, shocked’ to discover that “K Street” money has somehow appeared in his coffers.
…oh, and there are others, so many, many others…
The blatant racism that pervades the Obama organization has been subject to a peculiar wrinkle in the fabric of space/time: everyone (the Obamabots, the political world and the media) has agreed to ignore it, rationalize it, invert it – to the point that, if it is ever even mentioned, the transgressor is immediately accused of racism themselves. It will be interesting to see how that strategy works when Michelle’s words with Mrs. Farrakhan are ‘leaked’. They may not remember, but we will.
…they come in all shapes and sizes and colors, they come as ministers or as wise men with words as seductive as a summer dusk; they come as firebrands, burning with passion, keepers of a secret flame; they come as bearers of glad tidings, eager to spread the good, good news…
The themes of the potent demagogue, riding high on the surge of his own rhetoric are legion in our culture. Hubris is the word the Greeks invented to describe the fault: overweening pride and arrogance, sufficient to make the gods take notice and intervene. Calling yourself ‘transformative’ might qualify, comparing yourself to Kennedy, to Lincoln, to… well, who’s next? That might qualify as well.
…so many shifting shapes, so many thin disguises, a veil for every taste, a coin for every sleight of hand…
The dance goes on and on, the steps are set, lines learned, lights on… let the beguiling begin.
…but we know you now, whatever your disguise, despite your soporific words – the sound of silk on silk – the warmth of a mother’s kiss…
Like all the empty men before you, you seek to fill the void inside with the empathy and energy of your acolytes, that is why there is no surcease, no surfeit; there are never enough new followers to fill your need and there never will be. They hear in you the echo of their thoughts because you have no center, all is reflection and refraction, their hopes and dreams meet your event horizon and fall past remembrance into your dark center from which nothing escapes.
…we know what you want, the only thing you want – our grasp released, our embers banked, our brow lowered, eyes unfocused, hands folded – our acquiescence…
The unending cycle now repeats, in a slow chaconne: step – don’t worry, I’ll take care of you, step – give me your allegiance, step – don’t bother with the details, step – I’ll do the thinking for you, step – sign here and then forget, step – now you can sleep again.
…you will not wrest it from us this time, you will have to tread the great wheel again, to another time, another imagining, finding other victims in other dreams of power…
Some, of course, will not collaborate, for any price. The proud who require honor and respect, the stubborn who demand to know the details, the critical thinkers who want positions defined and defended, the questioners who want their questions answered. We who are not satiated with soaring rhetoric (we can do that, too, we’re not impressed) . We who want to know the ‘what’ of what is it you’re planning, the ‘how’ of how you plan to do it, the ‘why’ of why it is you think we should. We have hinted and implied, we have asked and requested, required and demanded and your response has been…silence, eloquent in its quiet thunder… so be it. Now we will answer you.
…for now we know your name, we have no need to speak it, you are already robbed of your power over us. The time has come for you to hear our name – so you will know we mark you, we who will never give in, never forget, never forgive.
Our name is: Nemesis.
What a lovely and brilliant piece of writing. Thank you.
Susan I sent “my rant” to your email!
wow. great piece. And yeah, we are here. Razzle dazzle doesn’t cut it anymore. This is the information age.
All the REAL Hillary supporters on here (the half dozen or so) will heed her words and get behind the next president of the United States- Barack Obama.
All the phony Hillary supporters on here (the clowns from Free Republic, Little Green Goofballs, etc) will ignore what Hillary says and keep pushing the lies and smears about President Obama.
What is it with the obsession to label people?
It’s really a defect of thinking, btw. Nobody can define another person. Work on defining yourself.
Real Democrats, Real Hillary fans, Real this or that.
It’s just too stupid. I wish you trolls would go back to your blogs. I feel like I’m talking with teenagers.
AnninCa: You probably are talking with teenagers, at least as far as their psychological development is concerned.
We ARE real Hillary supporters and WILL NOT get behind Obama. Whatever she says today, it is just because she has been forced to do so by the party. She is a team player and loyal to the party even though it has betrayed her and 18 million voters.
Yeah, but why is she being a team player instead of the next president? Not to belabor the point, but she rates higher among American voters right now than either of the other candidates, yet she’s the one capitulating and putting her Good Housekeeping stamp of approval on a stolen election. The media knows the public wants her, that’s why they’ve carried out such concerted campaign against her. And half of the Obama trolls posting comments on all these websites are either paid operatives of Karl Rove or conservatives volunteering to help get Clinton off the November ballot. (Click on my screen name for more on this.)
There’s something wrong with this picture. Sen. Clinton should be announcing her run as an Independent today, since she IS the only Democrat who can win in November. Obama will be lucky if he carries Illinois. If she meant what she said all this time, it makes no sense to throw behind Obama. Is someone drugging her food?
Hillary is not a stupid woman. You can’t run a 3rd party run overnight.
That’s not realistic. Moreover, why should any of us back down and let them steal the party?
She lost health care, too, once. Now, the world knows her plan is the best. You lose. You get up and fight again another day.
Ditto for me.
My candidate lost. I am not at all discouraged. Just get out there and vote them out.
One by one. Every stinking insider who pulled this con job off.
Vote them out.
The sad true is they are not lies. Obama is the one that lies!!!!
where’s the tape — I am a real Hillary supporter and I will not get behind Obama. I will get behind John McCain, the war hero and statesman — You know the guy with experience. Don’t you dare tell me I am not a real Hillary supporter. I love her and will support her always but if she is out of the race I am going to think for myself and support McCain. So are millions of others — if you checked lately Obama is sinking like a rock in the polls. Go tell Obama that just hiring trolls from Palestine is not going to do this for him.
Fuck off and go elsewhere, Obamatard.
BRILLIANT!
And every word true.
What a sick and delusional piece of crap.
What a great description of BO.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Craig Della Penna will one day be a speech writer for none other than Hillary Clinton!!! Together, historic! Compared to you, Craig, Obama sounds like Elmer Fudd!
Great post! Before the RBC meeting on May 31, I always believed that only Republicans practiced dirty, back room politics. After the vote on the Michigan delegates, I realized (painfully) that dirty politics crosses party lines. So this year I’m forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. I’m living by the old saying, “Better the devil you know” and choosing McCain.
Venal little people in the RBC.
To “usedmeat”
Yes, all you obama robots are venal little people. So go paise your new God.
Heads up usedmeat, the new tactic is decribing Hillary supporters as “Obama Robots? ?
What an odd approach.
Memo to the Oborg:
If you thought Hillary was a bitch, wait ’til you meet Lady Nemesis!
How about the republican oppo research team?
I am just praying all the people who said they will not vote for Obama will stick to their guns. A real message needs to be sent to the Democratic Party that we will no longer take their left wing candidates. I have been a Democratic my whole life, but why should I support a party when I am told that I am not needed.
Don’t worry about it. The swiftboating hasn’t even started. They are waiting until after August and then WHAMO … it will certainly be historica all right. Totally wiping out the McGovern stink.
Not only will it be historical, it’ll be hysterical.
http://meetbarackobama.com/
Already started.
The wont have to swiftboat Obama. The swiftboat ad’s were lies. With Obama all they have to do is expose the truth. I can just hear all of these little Obamatons crying already…why didn’t you tell us he was a thief and racist. They will be crying in their dorm rooms all day hiding from everyone who was smart enough to read Obama’s history. Then sneak out after it gets dark to scrub off the Obama 08 bumper stickers in shame. Maybe some good can come from it though. Maybe we can start a used Obama Tshirt drive after he loses all 50 states, and give them to the homeless. We’d have to ship them to overseas homeless of course, no one in this country will want to wear one. And maybe we could get one or two with enough courage to admit being hoodwinked and Bamboozled (as Obama would say) and have them do PSA’s on the importance of actually learning about your candidate rather than voting in complete ignorance. Then for an ironic ending, we can take the wood from all the Obama 08 sign, recycle it and have it used for Kool Aid packaging!
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
WOW! I can’t believe a website like this exists!! It sounds exactly like the mass hysteria and hatred that built up around Bill Clinton before and after his presidency. Don’t you people remember all the scandals in the Clinton days?? All the stuff that followed them from Little Rock?? How could you engage in the same witch hunt the republicans did back then??? Obama is no more radical or corrupt than the Clintons were accused of being back then!! Hillary has been so gracious and has decided to throw her support behind Obama. Why can’t you?? It strikes me as very hypocritical considering that most of you probably supported Bill, and it also strikes me as proof that “Operation Chaos” is working! Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, both of whom have built carreers on criticizing and demonizing Hillary, must both be so happy to see you all have fallen for their antics! That explains why creepy John McCain has been brazenly courting bitter Hillary supporters. John McCain!!??? Are you serious??? You’d vote for him over Barack Obama??? Please, someone enlighten me!!
Sorry I don’t vote for Marxists who plan to subjugate entire voting blocks.
I also don’t intend to have my capital gains– from my own investments which I paid for with money I earned by WORKING–raised to 25% so that he can give my earnings to a lazy bastard who spends all his time posting on a board insulting me.
You are out of your mind if you believe that he is no more corrupt. He is a passive agressive jerk and he is way more corrupt than the Clintons were NEVER proved to be. We as taxpayers spent 70 million dollars to find NOTHING on the Clintons. Give it a rest, you have your candidate he was delcared to be by so called pundits and party elders. He will never be legitimate in my eyes. All he is, is a far left empty suit and I think we have already been down that road but are being forced to go down it again. You will be dissapointed believe me.
20 Year of anti-American hate filled white hatred in the Black Liberation Marxist Theology Church.
If Obama/Marxist is such a leader why didn’t he try to change his church? Because he believed what it was preaching.
It goes beyond Rev. Wright. Read some books by Cone, et al. We are told Obama/Marxist is so smart so articulate so educated – so you want me to believe he did not agree with the rantings in that church.
No, sir, you need to enlighten me because I think for that one fact alone that he sat in the pews of that church for 20 years listening and absorbing that crap is enough in itself to disqualify him for the job of prez.
People just want to say oh, but what about Hagee. John McCain did not sit in Hagee’s church for 20 years. I wish people would actually read books on the Black Liberation Marxist Theology instead of trying to defend something they know nothing about.
Watch out, Michelle Obama/Marxist is coming for a piece of your pie.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
REST IN PEACE “THE OLD DEMOCRATIC PARTY”
Obama is no more radical or corrupt than the Clintons were accused of being back then!!
Accusations in politics are just that.
The glaring difference is accusations are NOT required with the grand wizard of NOI, Barak hussie Obama.
His political whoring is painfully obvious and is FACTUAL.
You just explained why we would support him. One of many reasons, but you and your ilke called us bitter, (as you just did again) don’t forget, uneducated, stupid, racists. Old menopausal bitter women that are delusional in our candidate etc. Yeah, have another drink of Kool-Aide and try again. You need a better rap, if you think you can fool us with that P.U. crap. Brazile and obama and his o-nuts said they didn’t need us and he could get Hillary’s voters but she couldn’t get his. Well I guess 18 million voters weren’t his, and 17 million weren’t Hillary’s!
P.U.M.A. MY KOOL-AIDE DRINKING FRIEND!
Hopefully the republicans do it sooner than that, Hillary will try her best to look defeated today and play along. If the republicans believe her they will start attacking… If they know she is holding her delegates for a reason they will play nicer until a bombshell is dropped after August.
Not just Obama but the traitorous rats who tried shoving him down our throats. Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Brazile need to be punished as well.
funny how CNN the love fest Bambi news outlet’s poll shows a tie between a real American McCain and Communist Bambi, what happened to all the love CNN….lmao
I recognize Nancy Pelosi from Corporate America. The Nancies attempt to kick the ladder out from under them in an attempt to keep other women from competing. Women slightly below the Nancies watch The Nancies carefully for the moment at which they stand too close to a Corporate hole. Then they gleefully help to kick the Nancies into the hole and add some dirt. Nancy Pelosi has that look and that tone. She doesn’t want her position as the most powerful woman in America threatened. Don’t stand too close to that Political hole, Nancy, ya’hear?
i voted against pelosi on tuesday. no effect here in san francisco.
but there is round 2 in november with cindy sheenan. maybe people will wake up till then
Thank you for voting against her.
There’s two idiots in my state that I will certainly be voting against this November.
It is’nt just Obama. The message has to be VERY loud and clear so that the DNC understands that misogyny, race-baiting and rigged elections WILL NOT go unpunished.
There ARE consequences.
Catherine–I’m lucky this year. Here in the Arkanshire, both my district Congressman and my Senator who is running for re-election, both Dems, have no GOP opponents, but they do have Green opponents, so I don’t need to vote Dem this year.
david corse — I know I will stick to my guns. The media is going to push this even harder so I will not watch any of the news stations. I will get my information from the internet. I will not allow the media–the Democratic Party or these trolls to manipulate me. Today they forced this great lady to give in to a prop the media wants to foist on us. I will not allow Hillary (whom I respect) to sell Obama to me either. The media is trying to promote Hillary supporters as pathetic–uneducated–lonely. I am none of those. But I do love my country and I know McCain loves it too. So that is enough for me.
Can we sic the Eumenides on him as well?
I am sticking . . I am a registered Independent and have been for years and will NEVER vote for obama; stay strong!
I’m a dem now turned republican and yesterday sent money to John McCain. I’m definitely voting McCain.
Excellent!
I will sit this election out. Going to Obama makes the mysogyny, racism, sexism and bad politics okay. None of that behaviour is okay. Going to McCain validates Bushco. No can do.
doing nothing is not a valid or constructive option. one of these two, if hillary is out, will win. which one do you want more?
That is your opinion. Should I ME choose to vote, my decision, your decision should be respected,so should mine, it will go to Nader. Right now the Dems and Repugs are acting the same. I cannot support that.
You don’t have to agree with that and I don’t have to agree with you. Leave it there.
Just so long as you do NOT stay home! Numbers are important. K?
I hear ya.
But what’s dawned on me is how similar this mess is to trying to deal with alcoholics, in this case drunk w/power people, the only solution is really the same. You can’t fix it or make it better, there is no reasoning, if one stays they become an enabler or co-dependent and the only proven solution is for the alcoholic to quit or the partner to walk away.
Better to get even than to get mad. Depending on the polls here in PA it will be a write in for Hilary or a vote for McCain.
in many states, a write in for hillary can be a vote for obama. they r at this moment from the same party.
people should check the rules of the states. many voters DO NOT HAVE the correct info.
please stop spreading the WRITE IN info. it can be damaging and backfire
We are very aware of that.Thank you.
but many other r not. a good post should be written about it with references from all the states and spread all over the country in time so many people will understand exactly what is at stake.
write in UNCOMMITTED …. that will show DNC what they created
I think many of Clinton’s supporters are currently in the middle stages of the Kübler-Ross model of grief, namely, Anger (Obama/Pelosi/Dean stole this form Hillary! I’m voting for McCain), Bargaining (Obama must choose Hillary as VP!), and Depression (The party has left me behind! I’m not even going to vote at all). I believe we saw the last of Denial with her speech on Tuesday. Hopefully within the next week or so, they’ll finally arrive at Acceptance.
What utter psychobabble. Hillary’s speech was absolutely appropriate. She just won South Dakota. Mr. Sensitive, of course, made sure he timed his self-nomination to take the wind out of her sails. Didn’t work well, did it?
Took the wind out of HIS sails. Smart boy, you got there.
She spoke to HER supporters.
The demand that she concede immediately was foolish, simply reinforces everything we’ve been saying about the double standard, and gave hatefilled people an opportunity to write one last ridiculous critique of her every move.
Reasonable people just don’t think that way. She spoke to us, to her people. She was not in denial.
That’s psychobabble trash talk.
You know KR has a point. I did go through the 5 stages of grief:
Denial: The Dem Party couldn’t be this stupid.
Anger: Damn! How could they be this stupid?
Bargaining: Dear Lord, I will give up swearing if Hillary wins.
Depression: The party has left me.
Acceptance: Yes, I can vote for McCain.
There are 2 kinds of acceptance. One is accepting that Hillary is not the candidate – I am there, but things could change by August (not holding breath). the second kind is supporting Obama. I would have supported a different candidate, such as edwards, but not Obama. It is not because of his running against and beating Hillary, it is because of his experiences, and lack of experiences.
Granted, things could change by August, but I think you recognize how unlikely this is. The Intrade prediction market puts Clinton’s odds at worse than 20-to-1. Personally, I think the real odds are an order of magnitude worse. The question is how much you are willing to risk for your expected payoff. Are you willing to risk Roe v. Wade? Staying in Iraq? A new war with Iran? Education funding? Affordable health care? More state-sanctioned executions? A continuation of our failed drug policies?
Don’t be deceived into thinking a vote for Obama is just a vote for Obama (likewise with Clinton and McCain.) A President does not work alone. He or she brings along a whole host of advisors and underlings, and they will be immensely influential in the executive decision-making process. Obama’s team has demonstrated an ability to use the rules and intricacies of the system to their advantage by being pragmatic, realistic, and non-ideological.
LOL. Another Obama talking points parrot. Obama can’t be trusted. He has NEVER followed through on his campaign promises.
I can’t vote for that man. Listen to his flip-flopping on Israel just this week alone.
He’s so inexperienced that it hurts to even think about him being in charge of anything!
Good grief, this isn’t about “grief.” This is about sheer survival!
He is not remotely ready to be president.
McCain? I know what he’s about already.
Obama? He’s still trying to define himself.
fuck you, we’ve seen the sort of people obama brings in, his so-called teams: thugs, thieves, bullies and fascists. don’t be so patronizing and you can stop with the lies. you vote for obama, and don’t tell us how to vote.
the re-education spin begins……heh heh
but let me say to to the faux kubler-ross shill: if you are at all familiar with how the theory works, the stages do not necessarily come in order. myself, i’m into acceptance first(the ordaining of a vastly underexperienced heterosexual male over an incredibly experiences women who actually beat the guy by almost a million votes if we count fla and mich as they were voted by the people)….then, yada yada yada….the last stage for me will be anger.
what a surprise.
also, for the record…..the grief process says nothing about one forgetting that which is grieved. yet,one learns to eventually go forward. which in this particular case, as you can see, many of us are moving forward,(ie;away from the un-democratic party)….onto a .different party, different candidate, etc….
a good thing to keep in mind…..one cannot resurrect the dead.
the Democratic party died and buried itself this election cycle. the last piece of dirt shovelled on happened last wkend with the travesty of a complete perversion of justice by the dnc rules committeee,
the republican arm of the democratic party are going to have a very big wake up call in nov.
DNC, may it R.I.P.
may it rest in peace. amen.
It is precisely because i am trying to pre-empt a grief reaction that I will be voting to sink Obama. He will never be POTUS. Hillary will sooner or later. Deal with it.
you are delusional..my vote was stolen..get that…stolen to make this guy go ahead in the delegate count..i will never ever support anyone who benefits the theft of my vote..do you understand that..can you possibly understand having your vote stolen????????
i didn’t think so..and now to break the rules again thw DNC to benefit Obama gave back 1/2 of my vote..fuck them..they will never steal my vote and get my support of that..ever..it would be un- American for me to do so.
I will vote for the opposing party ..of the thiefs who stole my vote.
and Fuck anyone who tells me anything ..I am an American first…people sacrificed and died for my vote to be counted.
And it was Obama and the Obama surrogates in the DNC who stole my vote..end of story there sparky…the DNC and Obama will pay the consequences for stealing my vote..every action has a reaction and there are consequences for those actions.
End of story.
You can not steal my vote and get away with it..won’t happen.
It is a very simple concept…
and counting it now?? now???????? when it won’t count ..no…won’t work sparky!!
that will only solidify my anger at having my vote stolen..
maybe you are young and stupid..i am not.
the DNC Obama surrogates all ready told me..they don’t need me..and they didn’t count my vote..so fuckem!
Hell could freeze over..Obama will never ever ever get my vote..and the $50,000. bucks i gave the DNC in 2004..will go to candidates that will run against the fuckers who stole my vote this time!
and i mean business!
oh and McCain will get some too!
fly
Some how I feel that those who choose to stay home instead of voting (either way) are saying that it makes no difference to them
about where their country is heading.
Those who choose to vote for someone with no experience, with no policies and no faith in
themselves, are saying they have no faith in their ability to think and solve problems.
Who is covering Hillary’s speech?
Hillary/McCain 08
I think Hillary should run with Nader as vice pres.
I pass.
or less
Thank you for a rare note of sanity. Previous few people on this site seem to have any idea what a vote for McCain really means. It’s beyond infuriating.
Oh good, I hope you’re infuriated. You could be over at your own cesspool blogs celebrating, but you choose to spread your anger still.
Why not just go drink the kool-aid and be assured that you’re going to sweep the GE.
That’s the latest meme there.
I know what voting for McCain DOESN’T mean. It doesn’t mean that the same horse’s asses and marxists who tried to take over Democracy a number of other times won’t be succeeding this time either. These radicals gave us Nixon twice. And George Bush The FIrst. The fact of the matter is, these two jerks were preferable to being a subjugated block of Americans. That is a grave problem with these people and you should be concerned just like the rest of us. If you aren’t then you don’t understand the radical fringe in the Democratic party who couldn’t make it in their own parties. Fortunately you don’t need to understand this, because the majority of this party is moderate. This is nothing but I re-run.
McCain will appoint hardcore conservatives as the next two Supreme Court justices. Combined with Alito and Roberts, that is damage to the U.S. that will not be undone for two generations, if ever. That many Supremes will be able to change voting laws enough to make it impossible for minorities or women or progressives of any kind to have any realistic chance of winning national elections. Ever again. American democracy is hanging in the balance here.
Uppity, I have to say, you seem to have a bit more IQ going for you than most of the people on this board. How can you not see the truth of what I’m saying? Do any of you understand that the *real* assault on voting rights in America is not the idiotic DNC sideshow, but the recent Supreme Court ruling on voter ID rules? Do you any of you understand this at all? Please, someone address a real issue here!
Pelosi will protect us!!! lol snark
I’ve only got multiple advanced degrees in Biology and Physics so I am kind of simple. As a result I can’t possibly figure out why someone should not have to prove their identity when every person in America already has a SS card, a driver’s license or a state issued ID card, plus many have passports or military ID cards. Not wanting people to prove who they say they are reeks of condoning corruption and rigged elections. The goal should be getting every single person eligible to vote to do so. Free of chaos, chicanery, dirty tricks, and all the other permutations. One person, one vote.
If McCain appoints “conservative” Pelicans so be it. If the alternative is BO facistic Marxism then I will glad for it. Please don’t bring up Roe… it is gone. Look at South Dakota lately?
A few points SFHillary, from someone who has less IQ going for me than Uppity,(nothing more incredible than a woman with more IQ
)
1) The voting rights you speak of are gone. Thanks to the DNC’s actions by changing the diaper on the RNC’s love child. If you need confirmation of this, look at how many votes in any US election are counted.
2)Senator McCain is well aware of the dangers in the world and will not seek to patonize thoose who murdered Americans as BO will.
3) We will be at war with Iran if BO is elected. The negotiating BO is capable of is to sell us out for personal gain and the Mullahs look at BO as a quizzling and they are correct in this. Since the 1970’s it has been a proxy war with Iran. It won’t be with a BO administration
4) How can anyone vote for an individual that is immoral? Can you? I can’t.
Do a write In. Put Donald Duck in there if you want to. But don’t stay home! Donna Brazile says she wants you to stay home. It is important that you register your objection via your right to vote. Numbers are very important. Please think about this, ok?
how about writing in “UNCOMMITTED”. let’s see if the gov. gives obama the votes
*chuckle*….Thanks, I needed that one!
I can see it now. Uncommitted to the Dems!
LOL Audacity. Maybe they can give him some of McCain’s Electoral college numbers too. Ooops wait! Howard and Donna aren’t in charge of that!
maybe he can borrow a few EC votes for a few years with a high interest rate. so he can return them double in 2012
roseeriter — Hey troll we spell behavior not behaviour–its a dead giveaway. You should know better.
Great reading first thing on a Sat morning. New here but love this place .It has helped me through this nightmare I still cant believe they were able to steal the votes.Changed my registration am now an Independent will not vote for Obama.
This is a beautiful well written article that anyone who hates Obama should be proud of.
the funny thing is when you were talking about being lulled to sleep it was totally like my dream that I have been having every night for the past few weeks.
The crazy thing is, the dream doesn’t happen when I am actually asleep it happens right before I fall asleep.
I am convinced that other people are having the same dream in kind of a “psychic connection” that we share through our hatred and loathing. Unfortunately I am having trouble getting anyone to confirm this suspicion.
Please if there is anyone out there who has had this exact dream or a similar dream write back and let me know. Our time has come to take back the whitehouse.
We will ride in on our bellowing herd of Pumas and no one, not John Dean, not Jimmy Carter, and certainly not JImmy Dean will ever stop us. Here is how it goes:
I have a dream every night before I go to bed, I am kind of half awake. It is about Hillary and she is an eagle but her upper torso is a woman kind of like a harpy.
And she has boobs but it is not terribly erotic because she is kind of a geezer, but she is still beautiful and majestic.
Anyway in this dream I am always dressed in bearskin, but I ma riding on a polar bear and I have huge muscles. And I am crying and Hillary swoops down and wipes a tear from my eye with her wing.
And although I am awake I am not touching myself or anything.
But I think this is Hillary’s way of telling me that she hates all of the Obamabots as much as we do.
Does this osund familiar to anyone but me??!! Come on peeps? Someone else has had this dream???
I have to repond to myself here because I didn’t want anyone to think I was scamming or trolling.
I use two well actually a few different screen names, but I am not trying to conceal my identitiy.
I Evolved from Gamzualtov (which is Russian for “United in hatred and self pity”
To gamzulagriffin Which I chose because I wanted to symbolize the combination of the eagle and the puma together
And then I actually wrote as pumaeagleforclinton because my other name was not working. So it really is me gamzulagriffin.
BTW I have a great idea for a hate themedpolice action show that believe it or not, I really think Hillary might be able to star in.
I know it sounds crazy but hear me out before you pass judgement.
I will post about it later.
PS Thank you to the moderator for adding “a little something to my messages” I think I know where you are coming from and your “secret” is safe with me.
My, my we are so full of ourself this morning, aren’t we?
“Putaeagle” is the worse kind of troll; a cesspool of boredom. I do think that, like an infant, he finds his own drool amusing.
No real people have said they hate bo. All the ones who have are trolls trying to start trouble. I don’t hate him. I don’t trust him. He’s a liar, a crook and a racist who loathes himself so much it leaks out in his dealings with the world at large. The nose thing he does makes me thing the cocaine is not in the past, but very much present.
Larry, Susan, this is the third name this pervert has used to post this same thing. IP Cleanup! Aisle 6!
Uppity I am sorry if you don’t agree with my feelings. I know how you and your DNC cohorts like to steamroll everyone else.
I already apologized for using different names and explained how they evolved and I reposted this story because it is important to me.
But nooo only stories that are important to you should get published right? (sarcasm)
You are the meanest person on this board and you constantly hurt my feelings. What did I ever do to you?
Could we make up?
Ever?
Ever?
Soon, perv. Soon.
I am truly glad Obama has you. I wouldn’t want my child in the same room with you alone.
I know I definitely wouldn’t want to be in a room alone with your kid.
What the hell would we do. I am a grown man who is interested in politics, racism, and hatred.
What the heck would we talk about? Hannah Montanah!
No way!
This election too important for me to waste time with your kid.
Not that I don’t think we could be friends, because I do. I just don’t like hanging out with kids.
Your chronogical age isn’t matching up too well with your mental age, given you obsession with posting gay remarks and talking about Hillary’s boobs in your wet dreams, which you probably have a lot of due to lack of companionship. You are also a perfect example of why Barack Obama must never be president so that we might protect the innocent and uneducated from arrogant smug assholes who would prey on them with bad satire.
One person shares his dreams another person tries to shut him down and squelch his sppech.
You tell me who is smug.
You are the one who is bringing up s*x (excuse the french) I specifically said there was nothing erotic about it.
And why are you so anti gay? I amtotally totally straight but I am not a homophobe.
I love that Hilary 4 u and me video, and I was the first person to jump out and defend Larry Suan against attacks on this website.
You know who is homophobic OBAMABOTS! LIke You. Go back to Russia. I tried to reach out but I think you are just mean.
And I hope I didn’t say anything that offended anyone but I am tired of getting picked on so there!
Uppity clean up on aisle 6 — brilliant lolol
this is true. same post. different names.
Excellent writing.
Does anyone know what the heck is going on with the UN investigation of race relations in the US? How and why this was started? The timing is not arbitrary nor is the agenda innocent, any insight would be helpful.
http://www.thesop.org/index.php?article=11243
Thanks Fred C. Dobbs…
for the link…
Historical perspective:
Dukakis Lead Widens, According to New Poll
Published: July 26, 1988
LEAD: In the aftermath of the Democratic National Convention, the party’s nominee, Michael S. Dukakis, has expanded his lead among registered voters over Vice President Bush, the probable Republican nominee, according to a Gallup Poll.
In the aftermath of the Democratic National Convention, the party’s nominee, Michael S. Dukakis, has expanded his lead among registered voters over Vice President Bush, the probable Republican nominee, according to a Gallup Poll.
This was among the findings of a national public opinion poll of 948 registered voters conducted late last week for Newsweek magazine by the Gallup Organization. The telephone interviews took place on July 21, which was the last night of the convention, and on the night after that.
Fifty-five percent of the 948 registered voters interviewed in the poll said they preferred to see Mr. Dukakis win the 1988 Presidential election, while 38 percent said they preferred to see Mr. Bush win. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.
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June 12, 2004
2000 Adjustment: Bush -1.9%
EV’s: Bush 222, Kerry 316
Pct: Bush 46.5%, Kerry 51.6%
That is funny!
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
- John McCain
If you think voting for McCain is a vote against Hillary hatred, there’s the pin to burst your bubble. He’s a misogynist of the fine old boy style. He also called his wife a “cunt” at a public event. He’ll also stack the supreme court with pro-life conservative.
Hate women? Vote McCain!
We expect misogynistic slipups from Republicans. It is harder to tolerate in Democrats, who are supposed to know better. The Democratic Party must be taught that it will pay a price for anointing a sneeringly misogynistic lightweight with a resume the size of a postage stamp. [h/t Uppity]
Page 32/Paragraph 3/The Book of Trolls
When there’s nothing left to argue, bring up John McCain supposedly calling his wife a c**t and the pro-life argument.
Repeating it over and over again won’t make the argument any more persuasive. We’ve had 5 Republican presidents since Roe vs. Wade, and it hasn’t been overturned yet. Besides, most states have their own laws now regarding reproductive rights.
Well, the case that you have to vote McCain doesn’t seem like a practical way to advance women in politics either in the short term or the long term. It really is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I’m having a hard time seeing how Obama is a misogynist anyway.
It really is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
No. The Democratic leadership has done that by promoting Obama in order to oust the Clintons from the party.
Look — the DNC rigged the primaries. You are not going to see many Democrats with integrity rushing to the polls in November, especially if they, like myself, considered HRC to be the only candidate capable of dealing with the big multi-faceted mess the USA is in now (dealing with it in an honorable fashion, and one that does not rob the citizenry).
LOL this section of the thread is priceless. The guy is on the record making the most ugly possible remarks about Chelsea Clinton and his own wife (his second wife, that is; he ditched his first wife after she stood by him for 20 years of his captivity and rehab and married another blonde 20 years younger and way richer), and he’ll definitely put the swing vote on Roe v. Wade onto the Supreme Court, whereas Obama would definitely nominate a liberal Justice who’d protect Roe and endless other issues that HRC progressives are supposed to care about, but — hey, no problem! We hate Obama and we’re voting for McCain! Because we’re feminists!
If a ten year old joke, which McCain apologized for ten years ago, and the Clintons accepted ten years ago, is an issue for you then you really need therapy.
However, when is Obama going to apologize for twenty years of support, including financial, to a church that promotes hatred of White America? When is Obama going to apologize for promoting a rapper , Jay-Z, who seems unable to write lyrics that don’t talk about “b*ithches” and “hos?”
If I thought you were worth the trouble I would post all the sexist shit Obama has said, and add on the crap you savages have posted. I collect them. Next to Barack Obama, McCain is a feminist. Do you have any idea how many times you jerks have posted this comparatively pissant thing?
Can you supply a date? We don’t need to do historical references for 99 problems and the bitch ain’t one. Seems like only February 2, 2008 … post another really BAD debate outing …
I notice you have no problem typing that work, pig
As a matter of fact, we have seen this post dozens of times and the fact is, there is absolutely NO proof that it was ever said. And you know what? Even if it was, we owe you and Barky a couple of thousand slams for the number of times YOU used the the word. That we know for SURE.
Next to Obama, McCain is a feminist.
Well, all right. McCain is innocent until proven guilty. It’s just too bad you don’t extend the same courtesy to the Obamas.
same courtesy to the Obamas. ??? WTF??
That is delusional…
They reap what they sow… Did BO extend courtesy to the folks, not responding to their concrns in his 313 when they froze or died from heat waves?
The only thing I will extend for BO is my middle finger as I vote for McCain…and I learned to THAT from the NOI grand wizard himself.
Poor john mcCain was just trying to fit in with all the other republicans… Obama tried to fit in to that too… He told Democrats that the Clintons were shit… no no, I can not believe how fast the dems and young cult members drank up these Republican lies… Obama and McCain both republicans, Obama is the wolf in sheeps clothing.
Obama is a Republican? I thought he was too liberal? I thought he was a Communist?
You lunatics can’t even keep your ideology straight. You are a hate site? You hate Obama. You have nothing else rational to say. Period.
My favorite thing I’ve read here are the comments that you don’t care if a McCain appointee is the swing vote on Roe v. Wade — as will almost surely be the case if McCain is elected — because your younger sisters should have known better than to abandon HRC in the primary, so tough on them.
I’ve read that a number of times already on NQ, and it made me realize everything I need to know about you people and your hideous little “movement.” That you delude yourself into thinking you’re doing this on behalf of HRC, a great woman, great feminist, great Democrat and great American, is beyond sad — it is tragic in an epic sort of sense.
Oh good, does this mean you’re going away?
Go back to your “love” sites. LOL*
HuffPo is soooooooooo nice. They even publish death threats there.
What was it called? Oh yes…..she got national attention as a “cesspool.”
Where’s the tape? I want to see the tape of McCain saying this. I have seen plenty of Obama gestures and sneers on tape. Show the McCain tape or knock it off.
There is no tape of that remarks — just three other reporters on the record as having heard him say it.
There is tape, of course, of McCain laughing at a man who asked him at a campaign event last year “how are we going to beat the bitch?” McCain laughed and said “That’s a good question.”
So sure, vote for that asshole in loyalty to HRC. Whatever. Reason has nothing to do with this group — just hatred.
No one here hates Obama. If that is what you read then take it up with person in the mirror.
Each of us have our line in the sand that Obama crossed. To vote for him would be to toss honor, integrity, and most importantly our country aside.
Once again, the fact you don’t understand that, only reflects poorly on you.
It doesn’t matter how many insults, pleas, R v W, or SCOTUS, arguments Obama supporters bring to the table, the answers will be the same.
I will not toss my honor or country out simply to make nice. That isn’t what honor or integrity is about. That is also something that Obama knows NOTHING about.
He doesn’t care about the people Hillary or McCain does. The only people Obama cares about is the rich. The rest is just campaign lies.
Obama’s house is perfect example of how he’ll run the country. Enriching himself and his money men at the expense of the people he claims to help.
No thanks….you can take the grifters.
I demand more from the people I vote for.
Did you speak up for Hillary when HuffPo published non-stop rumor pieces that had no basis in fact?
In fact, Have you protested the Vanity Fair hit piece on Bill yet? He’s smeared for having been at a wedding with a woman in the room.
If not, take your hypocritcal BS back the KOS.
You guys have no a shred of fairness. You’re a joke to demand any now from anyone anywhere.
You gave up that right when you participated in that crap all year long.
It is a vote AGAINST THE DNC.
walter — I guess giving Hillary the finger shows Obama’s class.
I guess the report is being prepared as we write.
Will they add insult to injury or will they go away quietly now that Obama has been anointed by the elites?
Oh good! I Hope it’s publicized so all the supressed people RUN to the polls. America does not like to be threatened.
Question is…what do you think the Obama camp would do if the UN finds that TUCC and BLT has been one of the most virulent forces behind racial hate in America in recent years.
Good Morning Scumbag Losers! How are you today?
Hillary Clinton, having more class in her pinky than Flowbee has in his whole body is endorsing Obama today.
Will your heads explode? And if so, could you post a video of it on youtube?
Even the Libertarians are mocking you now! Be proud!
Don’t you ever refer to Larry as Flowbee you rat bastard. He has done more for this country than yu ever will.
Would you call Pete Rose Flowbee? I don’t think so! He’s voting for Hillary but he’s betting on OBAMA
You are an Obamatron (a term which I coined that other people started using btw)
So go back and drink your kool aid (a term i admittedly don’t understand)
Oops that may have been premature.
Were you referring to Larry?
He/she was referring to his/her sex partner.
You are totally right.
Maybe he or she doesn’t even have a sex partner right?
That is awesome!
Used meat you rx my sox!
I mean that in a totally straight and cool way.
Dude you are the funniest person on this site.
wow, now the trolls are posting to each other.
mahaska; left hand right foot?
Good Morning Scumbag Losers! How are you today?
Good morning to you, too. I’m fine, and I’m glad to see that your excellent etiquette and good manners are still intact.
I would so love to crush that guy in my Eagle’s beak!!!
Am I supporting you? Do you work?
I know you so totally don’t work Uppity woman and I are tired of supporting you!
You guys are even worse than the McGovern people. You will be rewarded. How’s recreate68 coming along? I think it’s a great idea. It will be on TV and…um…stimulate more people to vote. Just like 68. You know about 68 don’t you? Nixon. and 72 was even nastier. Nixon again.
Ew, democrats had to be REALLY put off to vote for Nixon twice!
I know totally!
You have been reported. In all three of your names. You IP address deserves to go south. And you need to get a job!
Why are you persecuting me. You don’t want the truth to be told. But Iam beginning to think you are the real troll on this board.
I have said nothing but hateful hateful things about OBAMA and you are constantly trying to get me banned.
If you love him so much, why don’t you marry him. Because he would probably like to marry someone like you if you are hot because he is such a scumbag.
You have hurt my feelings repeatedly. I just don’t understand how someone who claims to hate obama as much as me could act like this.
Please can’t we be friends???
Save your hatred for OBAMA not me>
Good morning, smug arrogant fool. You do not know your history and you are helping to repeat it. And I am glad you are helping.
Back at you mongrel! Try not to bark at anyone whose bite is worse than yours today … of course, since you never leave your little compound, the odds of that are limited. Do you ever actually have a face to face discussion regarding politics with people? How hard do they laugh in your face?
Hillary has to do what she said she would do, we don’t have to follow her. Unlike Obama supporters, we think for ourselves. No one told us to support Hillary, we chose. We will choose between Obama and McCain. The DNC and MsNBC think that people are herds of sheep that will follow their leader. Not us. All of those people went from Michael Moore to Obama… Selling my stupid Michael Moore book on ebay for 1 cent… all you obamanuts come bid!
How old are you?
“The Republican fanatics we have all reviled in past contests for their lies, smears and blatant racism – will now be matched filth for filth by home-grown Democratic thugs.”
A lot of these “home-grown Democratic thugs” got their start as Republicans and Independents and have now decided to settle here for a while. When Obama loses these rough beasts will slouch back to their birthing grounds.
it’s a lose-lose situation. Sen Obama or a Republican. :- {
Correct. So you can either vote for the man whose policy positions are essentially identical to HRC’s, or the man whose policy positions are diametrically opposed to hers.
Hmmmmm…
I’m voting AGAINST the DNC. HMMMMMMMM:)
SFHillary–we don’t know what Obama’s policies are–because he’s a liar. We do know that he hangs with people who hate our country and its people and thats why I will never vote for him. Now I know your troll work involves saying that Obama and Clinton’s policies are the same — Therefore, we should vote for him. YOU SAID IT. Now get on to something else. Its not selling here.
How ironic. Bambi has turned us into a second world country before he’s even elected. That bodes not well…
Craig – Thanks for a beautifully written piece. I couldn’t agree more.
Pumaeagle – Stop trying to convince us that we can’t let the SCOTUS overturn Roe v. Wade. Even if they do, it’s too late to stop your mother (if she hasn’t already killed herself out of guilt).
I know right? I hate that whole scotus thing scotus that.
I am sooo glad you are into jokes about suicide tooo.
I think some people are way tooo sensitive these days that’s why I like this board.
Do you know RedDragon he likes making fun of mentally ill. (not my cup of tea) but it is the kind of freedom that we are fighting for.
We don’t need the DNC telling us what to do. The hell with them!
I hate OBAMA and all of the OBAMAJERKHEADS so much tooo!
I think we could become “fast friends”
Just one more hint as to why you will work to let everyone you know see what is on the net. Right?
Great writing, Great Post, thanks. You summed it up well. We have found our voice, and we will not allow anyone to take our voice away again. Anyone!
EVER!!!!!!!!
Stay Classy NY still loves Hillary.
Fortunately, Hillary isn’t judged by the scum that supports her.
I really really want to respond to this but I don’t understand what it means.
But hey I guess I responded anyway!
I really really want to respond to this but I don’t understand what it means.
They don’t understand it either. They’re typing it from a troll manual.
I know I could just see it “Trolls For Dummies”
Right??
Dummies for trolls
But Obama is still judged by the scum that supports him as he actually enjoys the company of thugs.
New York Here. Asshole.
davebo–you are talking about 18 Million Americans, whom you consider scum. You jackass–grow a brain.
Craig Della Penna write an amazing, wonderful post and all most of you can do is trade insults with Obamatrolls? Ignore them. They infest every site with their drivel and feed off your responses. Ignore the trolls is hard to do and I don’t always manage. In fact I fall into the trap of trading insults with them far too often.
But this piece, in it’s beauty, clarity and truth is so much more than the momentary satisfaction of swatting an Obamainsect. Treasure these words. They are important and heartfelt. And treasure the person who has the talent to write them.
I treasure the person who has the heartfelt talent to write this piece about trolls.
KENOSHA you are a tribute to everything we believe in. I will personally stand guard right here below your post and if any trolls try to “dis” you.
I will tkae them on with all of the venom of a animal that is half PUMA and Half Eagle.
Did you read my dream about Hilalry being an eagle?
Weird stuff, but true.
You’re not very good at this scam here, I think you should know. Your posts aren’t convincing. They aren’t ironic. They aren’t even amusing. I’d give you a C- at best in an English class.
BTW, the only thing more boring than another person’s dreams is discussing your medical illnesses in detail.
I know nobody cares about your damn dreams!
Go back to Obama land!
We all hate you so much and everything about you and your OBAMABOTS!
anninca — Democrats have a hard time winning even when their base is intact. Now that they have thrown away Seniors, White Workers, Hispanics and Women. This is going to be a tough sell.
I totally agree, kenoshamarge.
Do not feed the trolls.
Hey are you a troll? because I am sworn to protect this post.
I will kick your trolly A*S back to Russia.
I beg your pardon. Did you not post this earlier?
kenoshaMarge said: Maybe it’s supposed to be John Duh? Because only an idiot would bother to comment and insult just to be “amused”. Adults have better things to do.
Either someone is using your name, or you need to practice what you preach.
You know what? I have to agree with you about Craig’s post; I think the sentiment behind it is crazy and dangerous, but speaking as a professional writer, I have to tip my cap to him — this is a really lovely essay, the best thing I’ve ever read on NQ.
besides your professional comments?
No. His post was more gracefully written and evocative than anything I’ve posted here.
We are awake now, fully awake and will NEVER go back to sleep.
And trust me, we will come out in force in November…
to take back control over what was stolen from us…our votes and our voices. We WILL be heard. John McCain will become the next president of the United States of America.
A huge percentage of those 18 million voters will never forget what you did to us.
I can never get back to sleep after my dream about Hilary being an eagle.
That thing keeps me up all night. Although admittedly after OBAMA stole the election I did cry myself to sleep a couple of times.
But I am soooo better now.
we will never sleep!!!! Never!!!! Never!!!!
Perhaps Daveb(l)o will lend you his Flowbee so you can relax yourself.
You are a different kind of Alinsky operative.
Pretend to be on the side of the enemy, then disrupt and dialogue.
We, the righteous, will use wethe ultimate weapon. We will aim it at you and your comrads.
READY, AIM, V-O-T-E!
The battle is joined.
Time Magazine has at least two pieces of obamapropaganda in this issue.
One is “guilty as hell and free as a bird” Ayers is not such a bad guy afterall according to Kinsley.
UTTER BS – and I’ve felt that way for decades.
The people he injured and the families of the people he killed do not agree with this statement.
The obama apologists are saying his “rivals” are wrong to make an issue. HA!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810338,00.html
The other article is some dimwit saying WOMEN didn’t vote for Hillary in large numbers. But she fails to take all the Black women for obama into her numbers.
Duh, 90 percent of black women for obama would change the over-all WOMEN vote just a tad.
Hillary still ROCKED the WOMENS vote – despite nearly every single Black woman voting against her.
Screw TIME they are the ones who published that lovely picture of Hillary bound on the railroad tracks with the hideous look on her face. They embody every sexist idiotic push point of this entire year and I wouldn’t line my bird cage with their POS magazine.
They also did a praise piece on McCain. That is where their loyalty will be for the rest of the season. They just wanted to kill off Hillary and demean her so their real candidate would face ob.
Get ready obamabots – assume the position.
I’m afraid you are right about the ongoing attack on Hillary. Of course, I guess it’s to be expected. Everyone knows the better candidate lost. That’s a terrible way to start his GE race.
But they really cannot do more than was attempted during the primary. Hit pieces won’t work. Neither will hit pieces on Bill Clinton.
Nothing, frankly, will work. There is no way to take back actions. The appalling attempts to get her to quit. The silence when Obama was trashing her character. The whining when she said anything remotely critical (and very true) about him. You’re hurting the party!
Did they not realize that all of us were sitting here thinking, “What the fuck? He’s running ads that she’s untrustworty. How is that not hurting the party if she wins?”
That’s why we all not this was rigged. It was OK for him to do it because they weren’t about to let her win.
The Democrats made a huge mistake with this plan. They have now mobilized a huge portion of their own party against them. And after the behavior this year of the progressives on their blogs, there will be no reason to even be remotely polite about how we go about this.
All of these jokers need to have to spend a shitload of money to regain their seats. We need to seed candidates against them. We need to remain active on the down-ticket and make SURE they know what payback really is about.
A lot of them haven’t even had to really campaign in years. It’s time they did something for that fat job they have where they think they can pull these tricks while sounding morally superior.
Never again is right.
What do you expect from a Chicago politician?
My silly thought for today is Would if they held an election and nobody showed up? The voting machines, the money machines already choose for us …
should read What if…
sorry this whole primary mess has burnt some of my brain cells..
I know or all of the babes should just show up topless to make a statement about OSTinka’s(that’s what I call him sometimes) Mysogyny.
I am soo into that. We could carpool to show that we are united!
Man I hate OBAMA
Vote McCain!
It’s what pathetic losers do!
Again, Hillary is a class act. Larry and the person who posts here under 5 or 6 different monikers? Not so much.
And those that fall for it? Even less.
The blogosphere is ablaze with mockery of this pathetic site so I think I’ll go back to ignoring you guys (probably 6 or so posing under different monikers like SusanunPC.
They’re laughing at the evil orange site too.
Yes, Hillary IS a class act…and the DNC, the media and obamabots like you stomped all over her for months and months and months, so your boy could get into the White House.
We won’t shut up, we won’t be placated, we won’t be quiet.
John McCain will be president of the United States of America.
oh, and don’t call me a racist for using the term “boy”…people call Hillary thier “girl” all the time.
Promise?
Is Larry lying about his job at the CIA too?
But clearly not as much as in Obama’s finger
Ben Daydot:
At 0900 tommorow Larry will provide DEFINITIVE PROOF that he was a flunkie at Langly. Five different people I’ve spoken with who spoke to other people assure me of this!
give it up Ben…we’re not impressed.
I just hope that all who say they won’t vote Obama will stick to it. I know I will. but some people can be easily pursuaded. Nothing could ever bring me back, even if McCain does or says something stupid. Then I will vote for Nader.
I think that a sizable enough chunk of those 18 million folks who voted for Hillary will NEVER vote for nobama…we’ve been hurt too badly. And without us, he can’t will. McCain will be going to the White House.
maggie — you will be wasting your vote if you go for Nader. We need to make a statement to the Democratic Party — by voting for someone who can win. I have never voted Republican in my life but this forced UNITY to a racist is more than I can bear.
That’s the underlying unpleasantness about Obama. He found his calling through following self-indulgent demagogues and self-proclaimed revolutionaries. They raised him up in their image. As to how harmful he would be I cannot predict. The one problem I already detected is that he seems as lazy as Bush, delegating the crucial tasks to syncophants. And we all witnessed how that can be as destructive as having a evil tyrant in the seat of power.
Craig Della Penna most eloquently and righteously hammers home the TRUTH.
the Dragon has indeed been wakened all over this land. there will never be enough opiate of obama to drug us into torpor.
personally, speaking just for me, i know way too much to put the head back into the sand… to drink the reprogramming of the masses DNC kool-aid…to be swayed in any way even if Sen Clinton is at VP. i will not be used and abused by a group of folks who have just blatantly trampled Democracy. not to even go into the litany of wrongs against Sen Clinton.
it’s about way more than that now. and i think we are all pretty clear about that.
thanks again Larry for all the good work you do.
When you mention “The Dragon” I always think of this guy who posts as red dragon. Him and I are becoming BFF that’s best friends forever not boyfriends forever!
Because I am so totally straight, but anyway. He had this terrible experience with Obama at a dinner party and it illustrates to me why we half to continue the hatred on this website. This is one of the last bastions of hatred on the whole Internet. If we don’t stand up for Larry Susan now. This site won’t be here tomorrow.
Truly the dragon has awakened I just wish I could think of a mythological creature that was half dragon half eagle and half puma.
Too bad I can’t
Damn, PUMAEAGLE you are so full of shit. What kind of uppers are you on?
You represent a different kind of Obama-Alinsky operative. Pretend to be on the enemies side, then disrupt, distract over and over again.
You are ANNOYING. I feel like firing off on you and your comrads with the ultimate weapon.
READY, AIM, V-O-T-E!
Craig de la Penna – you’re a class act! that is a beautiful piece. Many thanks. It’ll be saved to my Favourites File to lift my spirits on dark days.
Right!
yo, where the white women at? i hear the video is coming out today? true?
peace out, bitches.
Another excellent example of an Obama supporter. I’m sure that he’s so proud to have you speaking for him.
According to Wolf Blizter yesterday the behavior of Obama supporters was superior and Hlllary supporters should be ashamed.
I’m never going back to CNN!
I tried to cut them half a break, but Blitzer’s remark was the last straw. He needs to come here and read the Obama trolls posts.
Well, come Nov. 4, the white women will be at the polls, voting for McCain–and Plastic Jesus will learn just how big a problem “bitches” can be.
Thanks for the well written article. So true! I laughed when I heard that Dean is FINALLY saying that the media was sexist. Well, gee, thanks for noticing now, Dean. It helps so much.
Wow! That is stunningly beautiful! I loved it, was rivetted while reading it. Exquisite writing!
Like an Artist!
Larry, It isn’t about winning or losing, it is about restoring this country. If you can’t get past this and recognize the Democrats had two very qualified candidates and your choice did not win, then restoring this country is lost.
As a person who built his career on analyzing situations, I would think you would have the insight to realize this. I must say I am disappointed.
All I can say is thank God a majority of Democrats don’t think as you do, both Obama and Hillary will take this country in the direction it needs to go to restore it as the functioning super power we have been and with respect.
But this continual attack on Obama is to the point of extreme and when that happens, credibility in your words are lost. Failing to recognize that both these candidates have the good of the nation at hand is only extremism.
You’re right Melissa. It’s not about winning or losing. Larry understands that. As do 99% of the regulars in here. As do almost none of the Obamatrons.
What we disagree about is your Kool-Aid induced belief Barry is good for anyone. That’s where we strongly disagree. All of us against the one of you (and whoever else has been sent out by Saruman Axelrod today).
(BTW that’s a good touch he’s using now – females or at least female names. I’m surprised he didn’t think of it before.)
But there are reasons for this diversity of opinion. Most of us here grew out of Kool-Aid about the time we learned to think critically and do our own research. ‘Research’ is defined by dictionary.com as:
diligent and systematic inquiry or investigation into a subject
Such as Barry Hussein Obama.
You might try it sometime.
Second look at this Melissa troll: it should be obvious Axelrod’s people – or a really dumb dupe for him – is behind this. Migod the language is so blatantly transparent.
That’s always been a major failing of the Obamatrons: they can’t understand hardly anyone is as dense and dumb as they are.
Contradicting to the propaganda, the reality is DEM doesn’t have 2 very qualified candidate.
DEM has 1 qualified candidate, and 1 inexperienced, no tracked record, never stand up for any principle, have no clue how to handle the war, don’t have any policy of his own just copy & paste from everyone else.
The most fatal weakness is he has 20 years connection with radical people who hate America and white people. If he doesn’t share their value, why he spent so much time with them.
DEM doesn’t have 2 very qualified candidate. And it chose to SELECT the weak candidate over a sure winner. And it has to deal with the consequence in November.
Do your research “Melissa”…we cannot be so easily duped. All you have to do is look at videos of nobama’s “spiritual advisors” ranting from the pulpit to see extremism in action. And that’s only one example.
We cannot be bought or placated. It’s too late.
John McCain will be the next president of the United Sates of America.
Failing to recognize that both these candidates have the good of the nation at hand is only extremism.
So that’s a threat in other words. Migod Axelrod is good. You don’t like Barry and you’re branded a ‘bad thing’. Axelrod is brilliant. He’s the Son of Satan but he’s brilliant.
Did you actually say that barfy is well-qualified?
I nearly spit out my coffee.
Thanks for the laugh
We haven’t really even discussed Obama in this thread. We’re talking about the Democratic Party antics.
Now, pretty soon there will be plenty of threads on Obama. His latest ridiculous performance on Israel is just a taste of what an incompetent candidate does to himself when he talks. He says one thing. Backpeddels.
That’s because he doesn’t really know what the hell he’s talking about in foreign policy.
That is what you are supporting: Someone who is incompetent.
incompetent, foolish, racist, dirty AND who has no judgement…just take a look at who he’s been hanging out with for the last 20 years.
When has this right wing media ever support a Democrat–when the Democrat isn’t a Democrat. No candidate has ever raised 250 Million now who paid that kind of money to Obama and what do they want in return?
they’d have to hire a food taster for Obama
That’s a job that would be almost impossible to fill. How do you catalogue 18 million applicants? Think of the paperwork. Where will you actually archive all the applications? The vacant lot Tony Rezko owns next to Barry’s house in Kenwood? The White House lawn? A football stadium? Area 51? And who’s going to read through them all? And how do you call 18 million people to an HR interview? Are you going to send terrestrial mail to them all? How much is the postage and handling for that? Or by electronic mail – 18 million messages? Who the F’s going to send them out? And if you do contact them all and they’re all decided to come – which they of course will: where are they going to stand in line? On the streets of DC? And how long will they have to wait on an average? How many years will this selection process take? Can they finish before Barry’s impeached or otherwise removed from office? You’d need a logistics expert just to organise the danged thing. And there could be a lot more than 18 million applying. Anywhere up to 250 million is a reasonable estimate – as long as you lock the borders and don’t allow foreign nationals or aliens from other solar systems.
This could be an almost impossible task so it’s best we get working on it right away!
Craig, do you write professionally?
Yes Craig I would also like to know.
I’ve worked as a technical writer but that’s all.
What to Do?
Video Instructions from the Joint Chief’s?
You can decide:
http://tinyurl.com/5lg8c6
No Unity pony Howie, and please remove
that pile of fertilizer from my yard!
Same w/ my family. My Mom who originally didn’t like Hillary won’t even vote in the GE now. I know quite a few people that originally didn’t like her, now admire her for standing up to the crock being shoved down our throats. Many people at work told me they are staying home. It’s a pretty pathetic scene. My heart broke last Monday when I went & changed to Independent. I felt like 28 yrs of my life was a waste as far as my politics. I think of the time & money that I wasted except the Clintons
Hey Axelrod! You gots a PROBLEM! LMAO
Gazmulatov is actually on target today.
Genuinely funny.
Probably isn’t the real Gaz.
I know right?
The real one is Such a jerk. Wait until you hear my idea about a cop show based on the life of HIlary.
It will rock your socks!
Larry get this pumaeagle misogynist SICKO out of here!!
Now stop right there!
I have been called many things by many people but I am not a mysogynist. Maybe you are but I am not.
That is one of the reasons I came to this site because I think OBAMA is sucha mygonyst racist.
So how do you think it feels to be called that?
Maybe you should think before you hurt people’s feelings.
Did you ever think of that and BTW I am the guy who invented the term Obamabots without me there wouldn’t even be that term. So maybe you should so some repect and quit being so hurtful.
You really hurt my feelings.
Aw gawd we’re so sorry, you troll! LMAO
OK give credit where credit is due. pumaeagle may not be a misogynist after all. At least if he is he’s certainly more. Despite the impressive adolescent moniker he’s also a pussy.
David this post makes sooo totally much sense.
I think you and I could really be friends.
I love your writing style it reminds me a lot of Larry Susan’s.
Have you ever had a dream similar to the one I wrote about at the top of the page?
It was so weird…
BTW I am the guy who invented the term Obamabots
LMAO Stand in line behind the inventor of the Internet! ROTFL
You really hurt my feelings.
Sorry no time for feelings…quit using them and start using your brain.
Feelings are not useful when working with facts.
Speaking of Cop shows,
1. has Mongol been released yet?
2. is it possible to find 1612 here.
3. or anything with Amadu Mamadakov ?
pumaeagle’s inflatable exploded and he’s pissed. His mother won’t let him use her credit card anymore.
My inflatable what?
You are so funny David! I think we have very sililar senses of humor. I love reading your posts!
BFF PUMAEAGLE!
Obama couldn’t restore an antique hardwood floor, let alone a country. The only thing he’s qualified to be is a carnival barker — that baritone is beautiful.
that baritone is beautiful
LOL Speak for yourself, JB! (I know you’re joking but it needs to be pointed out at least 18 million voters have never been impressed by his two bit rhetoric.)
Oh – Obama’s got charisma – that’s why the DNC & Judge Judy support him (plus to get back at the Clintons). This Democrat though could see early on that Obama was not qualified for POTUS and HRC was.
Great article!
You know I realize what Hillary is doing she feels she “must” do for the good of the Democratic party. However “I” and allot of others do not feel the same way. I’m so sick of the race card. (sure some really won’t ever vote for a black/mixed man) For me…it’s all about this..”who is the next POTUS that “we the people” select get us out of the mess we are in now” You don’t have to do all the ‘look inside yourself’ bit because it’s right in your face. ANYONE but Obama. Anyone!
This is one ‘fired up’ Democratic for McCain!
You know I realize what Hillary is doing she feels she “must” do for the good of the Democratic party.
We don’t know what she’s going to do yet. Never count a Clinton out and it’s three months to Denver and several more to the GE.
PS. Starting now Axelrod has a new nickname.
Melissa.
Melissa, you are right, it’s not about winning or losing. It’s about truth. Obama has nothing in his history but corruption, racism and radical ties. We’ve had a thief and liar in the White House for the last 7 years. And now you want us to put another one in? NO THANKS! That no class liar couldn’t even tell the truth about whether he still smoked or not. How the hell can you believe him when he says he didn’t know Rev Wright was a hate filled anti-American racist. He literally pushed through the legislation in Illinois that made Rezko’s pay to play kickback schemes possible. And all those who funneled kickbacks to Blag’s campaign also funneled kickbacks to Obama’s campaigns. Obama does not belong in the White House, he belongs in prison plain and simple. And I would not be surprised at all if come October the RNC unveils the biggest October surprise of all time and indicts Senator Obama on multiple charges of corruption with enough proof “leaked” to show he is undeniably guilty.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Obama does not belong in the White House, he belongs in prison plain and simple.
He’s lucky he’s not there now. 3 of the last 7 Illinois governors are in the stir and Blag is headed there too. Looks like the FBI just missed Barry this time. But they’ll get him next time.
Just imagine if he did make it to 1600. Whoa. And then the FBI bust the White House? Oh cool. Sounds like the plot of a gangsta novel.
What crimes do you think Obama has committed? I’m genuinely curious.
And, a follow-up question: if you know enough to have an educated belief that Obama has committed crimes, then surely HRC’s team must know? If so, then why didn’t they get the information out in time to defeat him in the primary?
He has a long-term relationship with Rezko and most of his bundled money are connected. Rezko didn’t just raise money. They were so tight it went into buying property together.
Now, we know he voted for a horrible energy bill due to his lobbyist connections. Nothing illegal about that. Unethical, yes.
We don’t know exactly what Rezko got from the relationship yet. Jobs for his buddies on the hospitals? That’s documented. A blind eye to his slumlord illegal practices? That’s documented.
More shall be revealed, no doubt.
See Bill Moyers conversation with Kathleen Hall Jamison from the Annenberg School and Ronald Walker, a former Jesse Jackson operative turned scholar.
Pay particular attention to their comments about the impact of involvement of youth in FDR’s and Kennedy/McCarthy/McGovern and Reagan campaigns. Too bad they want to just skip over Clinton’s generation –
This choice to “move on” (pun!) is what is going to sink the Democrats for another generation…. unless we can keep Nemesis strong. Great diary – well written
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06062008/profile2.html
The Obama bullies are sheep herders and won’t be happy until they get all the strays. These obamabots or republicans , they both look the same to me now, are disgusting.
We are much too numerous to be classified as “strays”…we’re a whole herd!
A herd of ferociuos venemous PUMAS who will bite your butt!
Exactly!! You’d think these obama idiots would relish the kill they’ve already gotten and get a life and leave Independent THINKERS alone.
The thinkers must be disrupted and destroyed.
“Never mind – there’s a good film playing tonight/Where they hang everybody who can read & write.”
You can’t hed PUMAs.
Pumas don’t need to be heded because they are independent thinkers. Right everyone?
Holy shit. This piece is going to make the rounds. Holy fucking shit. This was literate. OMG. I see what Uppity means.
That’s true, you can’t herd PUMAS…well, maybe we’re a pack then.
This is a great article, thank you! Lovely writing. Speaking with dragons, indeed.
Excellent post.
Hillary found her voice, and in doing so helped us, women and men, the everyday people, find ours.
Your MSM beard
are no longer feared
In fact, that talking albatross
will contribute to your loss
You, and they no longer hold sway
when we – the people – finally have our say
What a brilliant essay… loved the juxtapostitioning!
A great way to start my morning… thanks!
Absolutely beautiful writing. I agree with everything you wrote. True, there is no longer a difference between Republican tricksters and Democratic tricksters. From now, until the end of time, it has to be about honor…not Party.
The parties are exactly alike. Tweedle Dee and Dumb
Except for, ya know, on
The war
Abortion
Taxes
Health Care
education
Domestic spying
Stem cell research
Environmental policy
Free trade policy
and so on.
Except for all this trivial stuff, you’re right: the parties are exactly alike!
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Any guesses as to who said this?
Hope
Change
Yes we can
These assholes think they can put a gun to Clinton’s head, force her to be enthusiastic and support Obama, and we’ll “go along.” NO. It’s not JUST ABOUT CLINTON.
That is an element, but it’s not the whole story.
The misogyny will NOT be forgotten. The behavior of the DNC in perpetuating it, encouraging it, fostering it, will NOT be forgotten.
The Vote Stealing will NOT be forgotten, either. You don’t arbitrarily declare that certain states are only half people, and you don’t “invent” votes for people who took their own fucking name OFF the ballot. Unless you’re a fucking CHEATER, that is.
Bad behavior will have consequences. The consequences to the DNC will be a loss of millions in donations, membership….and President McCain. Those assholes had best wrap their peabrains around that very real idea. We’re not moving on, and we aren’t getting over it. FUCK THEM.
And look who the DNC will blame for nobama’s loss in the end…
Hillary.
We will never give and and we will never forget.
John McCain WILL be the next president of the United States of America.
I agree with every word you said except the naughty words.
Great article Craig!
By the way, I suspect John Duh is one of those hired from another country to do blogging for Obama. John, how is the weather in China? India?
Feel the same way, Clinton fan.
http://clintondems.com/no-vote-petition/
Excellent post!
And bots- you are really jsut wasting your time here- we know your master and we are not voting for him. Plain and simple. (Or should that be typical?)
This article is wonderful writing. I am going to bookmark this and pass it around.
I too am going to bookmark it and print it on colored paper!
Totally agree with ClintonFan, except the F*%$# part.
More power to this site.
EXCELLENT! Craig you are the best. I never thought I’d read something like this again. Perfect statement on the application of the 5th branch of philosophy: politics. (The five branches of philosophy of course are: metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics, and aesthetics.)
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
“What luck for the rulers that men do not think”
GE Nuclear Reactors = NO Containment!
Keith Olbermann: “GE is a good boss.”
MSNBC’s entertainment today consisted of an “analysis” of Clinton’s campaign mistakes.
However, the Punditry forgot to mention her most important mistakes:
1. She neglected to Vote YES on the Cheney Energy Bill (like Obama & McCain).
2. On the campaign trail she said: “nuclear can be considered in the future, if, they can make it cheaper and find a way to safely dispose of the nuclear waste”.
3. She got “news” coverage of her campaign cut to next to nothing when she said: I will close the loopholes in the Enron Bill that allow such manipulation of oil & gasoline prices, and, I will close the loopholes in the Cheney Energy Bill.
Thereby making Keith’s boss GE not in favor of Clinton for President.
NEXT, you might want to look on a map & see if YOU live near one of GE’s OLD nuclear power plants, or, near one of the 29 new nukes the Cheney Energy Bill is providing “for” “US”:
According to documents obtained by Public Citizen under the Freedom of Information Act, GE designed nuclear reactors around the world have a design flaw that make it virtually certain (90%) that in the event of a meltdown, radiation would be released directly into the environment and into surrounding communities, leaving the public without any protection.
The NRC acknowledges the reactor containment structure in GE built nuclear power plants did not work, but they licensed the reactors anyway. (Also, a dozen or more GE designed boiling water reactors in the US and abroad have evidence of cracking in the reactor core shroud — a metal cylinder surrounding the reactor’s radioactive fuel rods.)
p.s. Stay away from the Hudson River: Over 1.3 million pounds of PCB’s were dropped in the Hudson river by GE.
Good point. I still can’t believe these idiotic young “progressives” voted for the most boring and least progressive platform.
What a joke they are.
If we could discuss issues in this race, this would be one of them. Voters, which would be better; should we address global warming by empowering alternative energy or build nuclear power plants? Noooo, we can’t discuss an actual issue like that! Yes we can. Yes we can.”
Yes,
Woodlawn
East
Community
And
Neighbors.
Why debate issues when you can get people to chant recycled slogans instead?
We who are not satiated with soaring rhetoric (we can do that, too, we’re not impressed) . We who want to know the ‘what’ of what is it you’re planning, the ‘how’ of how you plan to do it, the ‘why’ of why it is you think we should. We have hinted and implied, we have asked and requested, required and demanded and your response has been…silence, eloquent in its quiet thunder… so be it. Now we will answer you.
…for now we know your name, we have no need to speak it, you are already robbed of your power over us. The time has come for you to hear our name – so you will know we mark you, we who will never give in, never forget, never forgive.
Our name is: Nemesis.
THANKS LARRY –
WONDERFUL WRITING
The trolls worst nightmare has happened since a huge chunk of Hillary supporters will remain faithful to her until the convention since today Hillary will only be suspending her candidacy and will retain all of her delegates. We will continue to research the anointed one and worst case scenario we will help to elect McCain to prevent the Obama freak show from taking over our government.
The trolls will quote Hillary’s speech today in parts accurately where it suits them and spin her words when accurate quotes do not suit them. Just more of the same bullshit we are accustom to.
I hope the trolls have plenty of cheetos on hand because we will be keeping them very busy! There is no nominee until the end of August and lots can happen between now and then.
I think the full gravity of what they tried to pull off and failed to do so has not yet sunk in.
One thing I’ve become convinced about is that the insiders read the pundits. The Dowds and other hateful writers never changed their tune. What the insiders missed was that she solidified her identity with voters and resonated on a core level. She passed the threshhold in people who insist on actions not words. She commanded respect and earned it from us.
So they misstepped when they cheated in the rules committee. They misstepped badly.
It will sink in slowly just how bad.
AMEN!
Has anyone considered that the DNC is asking women to become enablers by supporting Obama. After all of the sexist remarks and race baiting that we have seen used by Obama and his surrogates, backing him would be nothing less.
Let’s review the pattern of abuse:
1. They abuse you
2 They apologize
3 You are expected to forgive and forget.
4 Things are OK for a short while
5 Then they start all over then tell you that you must like it because you let them get away with it before.
STOP IT NOW !
Yes, PITA we are tired of centuries of being “enablers”…
we will NOT forget…they may have a gun to Hillary head to make her comply and we will not blame the victim…but we do not have to condone their actions by rolling over.
It’s too late. The DNC is a disaster zone.
John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America.
If you ever took the time to actually read about John McCain’s history of mistreating women, you would be beyond appalled. Go find out about what he did to his first wife after she stood by his side and raised his children for 20 years while he was a POW and during his rehab. Then read about his record of verbally abusing his rich new trophy that he dumped the mother of his children for. Then go find his “joke” about Chelsea Clinton’s appearance, told in public when she was just a child. Then go find the YouTube clip of him laughing at the questioner who wanted to know how he was going to “beat the bitch” (that’s HRC) in the general election. Then think about the balance of power on the Supreme Court, the two Justices who are over 80 years old, and McCain’s promise to appoint “strict constructionist” judges who will dominate American jurisprudence for the next two generations.
Then go vote for that blatantly woman-hating Republican scumbag, in the name of feminism and respect for women. And pat yourself on the back.
Don’t worry…Pelosi will protect you!
I agree. However, they don’t seem to be able to get past the abuse part.
We’ve already played abused spouse for the last 8 years.
“I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few”
Yes, PITA we are tired of centuries of being “enablers”…
we will NOT forget…they may have a gun to Hillary’s head to make her comply and we will not blame the victim…but we do not have to condone their actions by rolling over.
It’s too late. The DNC is a disaster zone.
John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America.
Howie you should have listened.
The evidence was everywhere.
http://tinyurl.com/3kx2ml
Now you get PUMA’s.
Good luck with that!
Where ever you are at 12 Noon today…stand up. Stand up for Hillary in a show of solidarity…we have not forgotten.
If you click on Craig’s name at the top of the post, you will find his website. What an excellent writer! I’m so glad that there are these websites that keep the information flowing and keep our hopes alive! Boycott NBC/MSNBC, CNN, etc. Let their ratings fall for what they have done to a talented, courageous, brilliant woman!
I haven’t put on my tv in a week.
wonderful post Craig thank you (esp for McCaffrey fans such as myself)…
I ordered my McCain lawn sign to go next to my Hillary lawn sign..
I also ordered some more things from Hillary’s Store to help with any debt. I am waiting to hear if she needs more donations this morning, i am happy to help her pay off her debt, she is an amazing candidate and I hope we run in 2012.
Obama fundraisers called me the other day and I told the guy for 20 mins why I cannot possibly support him, the guy agreed Big Dawg is not racist, that Hillary is great, I went on to explain that the 4 MI dels ‘reallocated’ ie STOLEN from Hillary were unacceptable, that the convention is too late to ‘fix’ this issue as it is counter to everything I thought the party stood for, he said all the things they should have said for the last year, too little too late, he thanked me for my perspective, I was nice it is his job and he was polite too.
I have returned the emails from Emilys List, the DCCC DSCC DNC (they keep putting me back on their email after I unsubscribe, it really is like the Hotel California, I check out but they wont let me leave) Wes Clark, all of them and told them sorry but I wont give a dime to anyone anymore but directly to the candidates who supported Hillary and her detailed plans to help our area, the SDs who went against what was good for their constituents in my area without reason, except the ‘donations’ they got from Obama, well I will campaign my axx off to make sure they get the boot in November, I am sending money to Ed O’Reilly? to help get Kerry out of there too, I see he used Obama style tactics to get his GOP competition knocked off the ballot, yeah thats change we want spread around Washington, how to lawyer your way to power, Chicago style, no thanks..
McCain I see is being attacked on TM board for torture votes, torture votes, this after he went to the floor numerous times fighting this and finally had to give in to pressure but made sure there were limits and then went on Hannity and argued with him saying he will not condone it period. No mention of Obama flipflopping at new speed, breaking records on Jerusalem and Iran, what is that thing the POTUS does again that requires the world leaders to trust the foreign policy stances they take???? Oh yeah COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!!!!!
How sad, how pathetic to try to use torture against a man who was tortured for 5 frakkin years for our country, this to promote a candidate who truly is the epitome of the sense of entitlement that seems to come out of Trinity and MEchelle reflects this to a T also. “can we get something over here?” “we just paid off our student loans” she whines, uhm no MEchelle, America already gave you a sterling education that enabled you to get a 300k a yr job denying medical care to the indigent and minorites who arent covered by taxpayer Congressional plan like Barack, Rezko gave you your million dollar house, WTF more do you want MEchelle, when is it enough?
I have a news flash for you, you will never be loved like Hillary and Big Dawg not by the PEOPLE. Some may be bedazzled by the marketing but they also loved New Kids on the Block and whoever was on the cover of Tiger Beat once too.
The love we have for Hillary and Big Dawg and Chelsea is enduring and built on mutual respect, trust and gratitude, something you will never understand.
We the PEOPLE know a con when we see one, and the party is running the LONG CON here. We arent interested in what they are selling, and if the cabal led by Pelosi and Reid thought they would get a larger majority to counter a McCain POTUS which I think is the ultimate plan, they are wrong. I will do whatever I can to make sure the party is not rewarded for this travesty of a nomination process.
MESSAGE TO CABAL: The BASE is NOT staying home and you are NOT increasing your majority without Hillary on the top of the ticket come November, that is the CHANGE you really CAN believe in.
ordered my McCain lawn sign to go next to my Hillary lawn sign..
i am gonna order 10 and give it to people that i know ,
they sell it on mccain website or not??
yes!! 20.00 on McCain website :0)
Good post. The real challenge is to get Kerry out of the Senate, the use of the sec state to fail Jim Ogonowski’s petitions must be something learned from his new buddy, barry.
IN LAST 5 DAYS – I HAVE CONVINCED 5 PEOPLE TO VOTE –JOHN MCCAIN —By talking about what OBAMAS did to HILLARY.
I meantioned racism,sexism,hate from his camp,trashing the clintons , were they mad??
SO WE HAVE TO START TALKING TO PEOPLE THET WE KNOW ABOUT IT ,
I am starting to say “hi“`hello“to my kids,s school teachers and my neighbors ,so i can start talking to them in 2 weeks or so about it
MY goal -at least 500 people myself and convince at least 50 to pass the word on about obama
Now that will be a movement if all of us did in our towns,,
All I say, Sonia, is that I’ll probably vote my pocketbook. The look of relief on people’s faces, who supposedly fall into the Obama category, is palpable. It’s like someone gave them permission to not vote for him. LOL*
Poketbook issues work. He’s going to raise taxes. Unless you really, really think he’s great stuff, why the hell vote for someone who is incompetent and then have to pay for it?
One simple true test of Obama the real test when Rezko was found guilty:
Whom did Obama feel sorrow for?
A-Rezko’s family?
B-The people of Illinois Rezko Ripped off?
C-All of the above?
If you picked “A” you won! Incredible how the so called candidate for the people gave a rats ass about the millions scammed off by his bagman and showed any concern about the people he claims to be the messiah over! Nope, Bambitwat feels sorrow for Rezko’s family!
So much for the people, well guess plenty of practice considering Obama was happy letting people freeze while taking Rezko money, ah but Obama gives a good speech! Yeah that deserves him to be POTUS!
Oxford Dictionary has replaced the word STUPID with OBAMABOT as irrational illogical and inability to think person or persons!
Personally, I think everyone is on the wrong track about Rezko, Ayers, Wright, and the good priest.
The question is: How do you NOT notice these obvious things about long-term friends?
A follow-up question would be: Do you think you might have a judgment problem, then, since you don’t see what others see and know?
my fave recent comment from Obama is on the night of his big $23000? a plate fundraiser in NYC when asked by a reporter, so how does it feel to be the presumptive nominee for POTUS?
does he say, what a blessing, NO
does he say an honor and a privilege NO
does he say he hopes to live up to the awesome responsibility? NO
NO he says and Im not shxttin you here:
I dont know I havent really thought about it I have to go home and speak to Michelle about it
Listen if you dont KNOW how it FEELS to be the presumptive nominee of the party for POTUS …well I think we have serious trouble here beyond what we expected, he must not know what the right feeling is to have, which would to me indicate a frakkin problem Houston…
Maybe that’s it. What I spotted from the beginning. He has a strange affect. I don’t think he feels anything. He is a blank.
Hard to ignore isn’t it?
here’s some words of support from patti smith, people have the power!
http://tinyurl.com/6elzva
we shall see what we shall see in November.
Is that Patti Smith the Obamabot?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=alQ13YkZj2OY&refer=muse
Hey DNC
How are you gonna reach the wroking class?
This TV ad starts Monday in a major S.E. market.
http://tinyurl.com/6h43ga
McCain Beats 0buma in the swing States of Florida, Ohio and PA.
Man mde Messiah’s always fall to Earth!
yep Icarus fer shure!!!!
It’s going to be interesting to watch Hill’s supporters at 12 Noon today…I wouldn’t be surprised if they even let her get nobama’s name out of her mouth before they begin booing.
I’m beginning to read posts on other blogs about a huge protest march on the convention.
Yes!
Yes, Hire Heels is calling for it, I know. A Million Women in Denver.
How the DNC and Obama’s fixed the outcome for the primary:
Did anyone know about this?: “there also was a law passed in several states in the last 1 & 2 years that if you are 17 you can vote in the primary.”
Here is the post I read from camille424.wordpress.com/
“…I read he had ‘youth’ organizing for him back then in the local colleges. I believe this is why he was able to act so swiftly the Iowa caucuses and ‘organize’ in other states so quickly, He used the youth as his street ’soldiers’.
*********
Something else happened that few people realize. On top of giving more delegates in AA districts, the caucus crap, there also was a law passed in several states in the last 1 & 2 years that if you are 17 you can vote in the primary. Some states allowed the age to be just 17 while others said ok but they must be 18 before the General.
Do you realize how many people that would bring in, especially in his own state…my God!”
the best is the mayor of gary indiana using taxpayer dollars to BUS HS Senior to vote during class…
McCain and women’s issues: It’s more than just Roe…
By: Steve Benen on Saturday, June 7th, 2008 at 5:30 AM – PDT
Obviously, John McCain’s intention to move the Supreme Court even further to the right and overturn Roe is high on the list of concerns regarding women’s issues, but Scott Lemieux had a good item this week reminding us that Roe is just part of a bigger picture.
Yes, it’s true that replacing John Paul Stevens and/or Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a Republican appointee will be bad for abortion rights, although this is likely to occur by further draining content from Casey rather than overturning Roe outright.
But even when it comes to women’s rights, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The enforcement of civil rights protections for women is likely to be much less in a Republican administration, for example. The global gag order will remain firmly in place. And in general, four more years of a tax-cut-supporting, massive-defense-spending GOP president will not only make any kind of serious progressive reform (much of which disproportionately benefits women even if not specifically targeted to do so) virtually impossible for four more years but will also make it more difficult in the future. A McCain presidency would be very, very bad for women even if not a single Supreme Court vacancy opens up during his tenure.
Quite right. We’re not just talking about esoteric issues like Supreme Court cases and speculative high court retirements; this is about the kind of impact McCain policies can and would have on women’s lives every day.
As St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, an enthusiastic Clinton backer, said this week, “You don’t spend your life fighting for women’s rights and then vote for Sen. McCain.”
As it turns out, we can even go further on this point.
David Greenberg, the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood in Oregon, had an especially good item this week on the subject.
John McCain is one of only a few Senators to earn a Zero percent lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood’s Action Fund, and he only scored that high because the organization doesn’t have a lower rating…. Let’s look at his record:
He voted against requiring health care plans to cover birth control (3/22/03).
He voted against comprehensive, medically accurate sex education (7/25/06).
He voted against international family planning funding (3/14/96).
He voted against funding to prevent teen and unintended pregnancies (3/17/05).
He voted against public education for emergency contraception (3/17/05).
And he voted against restoring Medicaid funding that could be used for family planning for low-income women (3/17/05).
NPR reported (2/2/08) that, “Many Republican voters seem to believe, incorrectly, that the current Republican front-runner, Arizona Senator John McCain, supports abortion rights.”
John McCain wants us to believe that he’s a moderate who supports improving the health of women in the United States, but in fact he’s among the most extreme members of Congress who voted against common sense measures on family planning, sex education and access to basic healthcare.
In contrast, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agree on all of these issues.
It’s beyond Roe vs Wade at this point. Don’t you get it?! We have had our constitutional rights violated and the DNC is trying to install a thug as the President of the US.
Get over it…we cannot be brought back into the fold.
Obviously you don’t read past the first line “It’s more than just Roe…” or your wuldn’t write “it’s beyond Roe…”
Women’s rights didn’t mean anything to the Democratic party in this primary season. Why should I think they will continue to support me now?
The most overt and blatant sexism I’ve ever seen was thrown at Hillary everyday…and only after it was all over did the good Dr. Dean say ANYTHING about it.
Millions of us are simply LIVID.
I say again…John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America.
Yep, so you better get busy on the congressional side over there.
Because part of the plan is to derail the insiders. That may mean a lot of young congresspeople in office.
Pelosi has a challenger. I’m working to find out if the woman has anything good to offer. If so, I’m sending her money. Ditto for a lot of the Obama insiders who railroaded his nomination.
I agree. It’s sad to support someone opposed to women’s reproductive rights.
But then, the Democratic Party insider never once spoke up against what was happening to the woman candidate, so their actions this year prove that they aren’t friends of women, either.
Ferarro spoke up. But she was jeered right and left and called a racist.
Shame on the Democratic Party.
I may even support some good solid moderate Republicans in my area. I don’t want to see the Democrats that showed us their lack of integrity and principles have much power.
too bad
so sad
that’s why we have STATES RIGHTS didnt ya know??
nothing will make me vote for Uhhbama
nothing
waving at you now!!
really ‘girly’ wave with a hankie and everything
Ya’ll dont come back now, ya hear!!
I don’t for a second believe that Obama cares about women’s rights. If he did, he wouldn’t have allowed the sexism that was directed at Hillary and her supporters by his bought and paid for media and his thug brigade. He is the epitome of the “Just words” mantra; he changes his positions as often as he changes his underwear. As least, I hope he changes his underwear that often.
You can provide lists of all of McCain’s flaws, and it still will not persuade me to support the empty suit. I have a thought–instead of focusing of McCain, how about telling me all of the positive things Obama has accomplished for his country.
Agree, 100% and well said.
Let’s make sure Obami does not win. He will lead the Dem Party to defeat but, hey, mission accomplished. The AAs got what they want – a black nominee; the Dem party got what they want: retain the AAs and expand their youth base; Obami got what he wanted: a bigger mansion, more book deals, more speaking tours.
They forgot one thing: the country did not get what it wants and deserves – an accomplished, qualified, candidate with everything that it takes to be a successful President in these times of need.
obama and his goons are the ones that divided us, with lots of help, there is no way he will unite us. Never in my life would I vote for the sleaze and the sleazier that invaded the blogs the media and the democratic party.
Sorry kiddies for the good of my country this cannot stand. As a history buff, IMO, the actions throughout are similar to the rise of facism and communism. The similarities of the rise of Mussolini, Hitler, the Bolsheviks (won’t claim Stalin, he was low key in his rise to power but part of the Bolsevik revolution)all the player, attitudes, and behaviors seem to have been reincarnated.
I guess people should have paid more attention to the Hillary camps chronological map of when obama first began his plan of becoming President. Kindergarten in Indonesia where his mother moved him with his stepfather, I read an article (won’t go find it, it was a while ago)that his stepfather was kicked out of the U.S. for his communist activities and they only got more prominent while back in Indonesia and his mother had the same beliefs. With the friends, confidant’s, and associations obama has chosen to keep in his present history, I would say the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Hello again to all the friendly Free Republic/Little Green Goofballs lunatics on No Quarter who are pretending to be Hillary supporters. Any word yet on the Michelle Obama tape you corrupt, lying, dirty bastards have been pushing?
PS- If there are any REAL Hillary supporters here who have been conned by all the lies, half truths and smears you will find on this website I hope Hillary’s words were a wake up call to you folks and you get behind the next president of the United States- BARACK OBAMA! To the Free Republic assholes who have infested this website- hope you twerps enjoy having a black president. LOL!
The only lies, half-truths and smears that have been perpetuated have been by the likes of you obamabots, nobama himself, the DNC, the media and the political pundits.
Ranting (as you folks are so good at) will not help, so you may as well get your blood pressure under control.
John McCain is packing his bags for the White House.
I love Hillary with all my heart.
It’s not only the FR/LGF sockpuppets prentending to be Hillary supporters, they are also pretending to be Obamabots coming here and insulting Hillary supporters, being asshats that would really drive the wedge. Remember its there goal to split the democratic party.
Nah*……I don’t buy that. The party is split.
These are just sick souls.
some of each plus miscellany – I think..
So, I’m a corrupt, lying, dirty bastard, and you want my support. Wow, what a novel approach. Get me to despise your imbecilic little self even more than I already do and that will convince me to vote for your man Obama. I think your tactics need a little more work.
Beautiful writing, thank you. People, spread the word. Take segments of this writing and post them everywhere you can and link back to this site and this article. Use it as a battering ram. Keep pounding and pounding with it over these months. Give some time every day to keep the word out there. And let the walls come tumbling down. “Della Penna,” you live up to your name. Bravo!
Only if the Karl Rove wannabees that ran the Clinton campaign sign on with Obama. And I don’t see that happening.
Your Dear Leader’s endorsing Obama today, BTW, while you crybabies wail and stamp your little feet in rage.
What did history sound like as it passed you by?
Precious and his gang of thugs have a political gun to our Hillary’s head. We do not hold her responsible for her own kidnapping and torture.
Millions of us are deserting the party for John McCain. nobama cannot win without us. You have hurt us deeply and we will NEVER forget.
Payback, as they say…is a b***h.
When obama goes down in flames November 4, 2008 what will it sound like to you? I know I am going to be smiling and calm that justice prevailed.
I haven’t decided yet–popcorn or champagne when Obama gets his ass handed to him by Sen. McCain. Regardless, it will be a joy to watch.
Oh, and since I still have free will, I do believe I will vote for McCain. As an aside, the persons from People for the American Way and the DCCC I talked to yesterday were a bit upset I’m not ever giving them money again and that McCain gets my vote. Into everyone’s life a little rain must fall; here’s hoping for a monsoon for the DNC and Obama.
Then stand outside it while other people make history. Including Senator Clinton, who’s getting behind the nominee.
she’s only gettng behind him because she has no other choice…she has a political gun to her head.
We will not be denied.
JD Rhoades go back to evil orange with the rest of the spoiled brats. ‘Wah I want what I want when I want it….’ Well you got it so get back on your knees for the selected one.
I am giving you a one women standing ovation for this article….BRAVO
excellent, you have written so clearly what so many of us are thinking and feeling
Hillary will be wise to reject any VP offers.Her power lies in the Senate,not the VP. VP’s are no more than a puppy on a leash(errand runners).
I hate that people have allowed the “HYPE” to influence the polls. November will be less than noticed unless them that have allowed the Charisma and eloquent speeches of Obama to keep them snared.
People that follow but never hear the message will always be the bunch “HYPE” will influence.
People, think about the confused ,backtracking,no knowledge and no experience. Check his voting record and notice the many times he either did not vote by excusing himself to the tank,probably with Larry Sinclair, or,he voted, then changed his mind a few minutes later.
If America remembers what Obama claims his foreign policy experience is,y’all will know he claims visiting Palestine,and a few Mid East countries are his experience he puts in his resume.
NOTE: Hillary has to act the part of one that’s unifying the party. But,believe this: Hillary could give a DAMN less about unification. Hillary is like most Americans,she’s pissed off and can do more to control the sham scam Obama and his political “BS” if she remains in the senate.
I hope America does not fall for her shallow endorsement she is forced to make today.
I want the DNC to realize they do not run this country…”VOTE McCAIN”
Just, please do not allow “HYPE” to overshadow “FACTS.”
Here’s what I say, regardless of what Hillary says or does.
Got to hell, Obama. I spit on you. Now and forever.
Well said!
How courageous of her.
You have been.
You are correct. The insider boyz did win this round.
I suggest they have triggered a tsunami of ill-will now.
THEIR seats are going to be challenged now.
With good reason.
We do not hold the victim responsible for her own torture. This would be the equivalent of some less-than-enlightened countries in which women who are raped are then stoned to death on accusations of being unfaithful to their husbands.
You cannot use this argument against women…we have heard it all too often.
We will not be silent, we will not be compliant and we will do everything in our power to defeat nobama in November. You can take that to the bank.
BREAKING NEWS:
WE DON”T CARE!
You couldn’t find a person influential enough to sell that lying, pandering, corrupt self-proclaimed Holy One to anyone with a working brain or conscience.
Add the position Hillary is in now now to the many ways in which the DNC has manipulated and betrayed her (blatant sexism in broad daylight with NO remorse), it’s no surprise at all and again reinforces the disdain against the party, the likes of which they have never seen.
And it was only because Hillary fought to have all the people of all the 50 states and the territories to have their voices heard. obama, the dems, the media all tried to shut them up and down.
There. Fixed.
Hell no! We won’t go!
I would also like to comment regarding the post about Obama’s supposed 5 pt lead over McCain. 5pts. is that the best you could do?
5pts. given all the money he’s spent, how many millions is that BTW?
5pts after his I am the King of the Universe victory speech, gee that’s not much of a bump.
5pts with the entire media singing his praises.
Hey Obamabots, what’s wrong with this picture.
Oh and what’s the margin of error +/-4pts.
AND…the GE is not decided by national numbers,
how does Barky match up state by state…are those Red ones sparkling blue yet, LOL.
The Prince of Division has not voter groups left to insult, and by the same means, none left to “persuade”, tick tock, tick, tock.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/hillary-clinton-stay-in-the-race
Here this is for all staunch Hillary voters
Go sign the petition?
Hillary has her own movement and we will not be broken just because the DNC & Media ask us….
18 million and climbing we will forge ahead still as strong
The pundits are at it again today!
Talking about how Hillary NEEDS BHO and NEEDS the party to help her since she’s wounded so many damn blacks!!!
BSBSBSBSBSBSBSBS
the pundits did that!!!!!
she doesn’t need ANY OF THEM after all she’s done for them in the past!!
FK the DEMS I am SOOOOOOO done with them!! ESAD DONNA, KEITH, RACHEL I hope you love your new minority party of blind lemming worshipers!!
You all deserve each other and will be blamed for screwing up the COUNTRY for the next 8 yrs!! It will be all on your little wussie heads you pigs.
I am NEVER going to forget their treachery (I am not alone)
She really doesn’t. Her political future with the Dem Party has been sacrificed for a lie.
Whether she appears to unite the party or not, all will be her fault, and any subsequent run will likely be subjected to the same ridicule.
What else can they say? I thought of a fun piece to write this morning.
I think going back and finding the pundit predictions/assurances and then seeing what REALLY happened……*hehe
A bunch of them clearly have no business in political analysis writing. How did they get the job, anyway?
You are so right. Could not have said it better.
A very welcomed read. Extremely creative masterpiece. You say it so well. Everything.
Just a thought……Those new Obama underwear are perfect…they will remind everyone he is full of SHIT…
Or, apparently, on the proper meds.
Do not give the news media any rating, watch the speech on Hillarys website with her other supporters.
Thank GOODNESS! Yes I will do that!
I feel like a refugee in my own freaking country!!!
Not ONE gdm News Agency is legitimate any longer!
The net is all we have.
This ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit tells us it’s over. Thank you for the wonderful piece Craig. I will not go quietly into the night. The DNC cannot lie and cheat and then expect us to accept their decision no questions asked. Somebody in the thread above mentioned how well Donna Brazile botched Al Gore’s campaign and she is doing her same magic this year as well. Maybe, she is closer to Rove than we think. How else do you explain the mess we are in, with a divided Democratic Party and the annointing of a very weak candidate. This is not over until the convention in August, and that’s a long time for more dirt to come out on the favored one. How many times can this guy blow it, and still be propped up by the DNC and MSM? Let’s be honest, if it were your typical white guy, he would have been gone 6 months ago. GE and others, must have very deep pockets indeed. Stay strong everyone, we have work to do.
Craig Della Penna,
You communicate in a way in which I could only dream to compare. Your eloquence is captivating, your symbolism is thought-provoking. I do not know what your craft is, but it would not surprise me if you are an author. This post was excellent, although I have to admit that I needed to look up a couple of words for their meaning.
We constantly read about how Hillary’s supporters are a bunch of dunces who are apparently no smarter than a fifth grader. This is not to insult your average fifth grader, though, because it is evident that many adults are NOT smarter than fifth graders! Anyway, your intelligence is far superior than the best of what I have witnessed from the dark side.
Thank you for supporting Hillary. I hope that you continue to post on your blog, and on the NoQuarterusa website. I am very impressed.
PSSSTTT
Someone earlier on the board told me not to post about dreams!
Just a little heads up to posting netiquette
I believe the Republicans may have had a hand in the misinformation campaign, and I’m still willing to vote for McCain, because I think Obama is such a poor alternative. Plus, the Democratic Party is really more at fault for gaming the primary season to advantage Obama and allowing a significant and loyal portion of their base to be insulted and labeled as racists.
In spite of the possible complicity of the Republicans, I just feel Obama’s inexperience and close association with far left radicals from Chicago create too many concerns for me to overlook. In Obama’s first speech after becoming the nominee, in pandering for jewish votes his assurances regarding Israel managed to upset some of his Palestinian friends, and in response to the concerns of the Palestinians, he of course had to backtrack which only makes the whole situation worse. Where he stands seems to depend on the particular day and his audience, and although all politicians have a tendancy to do this, his flip flops are exacerbated by his inexperience.
In the face of all the threats about what a McCain presidency could bring, I always return to my concern that in his inexperience, an Obama presidency could lead to unimagined negative consequencies. As far as I’m concerned, the Democratic Party actually managed to nominate someone whose inability to speak off the cuff makes Bush look like an exceptional extemporaneous speaker, and whose depth of knowledge and understanding of important issues is questionable at best. So, I will cast my vote for McCain free from any guilt, because as far as I’m concerned, I was not provided with an acceptable alternative.
She’s doing that today.
nobama is toast in the general election…many millions of us who supported Hillary will not roll over in November and he cannot win without us.
LN….I think, personally, that South Dakota was the best indicator for what will happen in the Fall.
He has thoroughly lost the white middle class voter.
This time around, there won’t be the usual sliced up delegates. Winner take all.
He’ll not push past the needed threshhold to win. Wright killed him. It had nothing to do with Hillary. It was his own past.
She is suspending not withdrawing. Those us us who have voted before actually UNDERSTAND the process.
That’s one of the sad realities of Obamabots…you are so ignorant on soooo many levels. LOL
A lie is a lie is a lie. Obama is a liar. Just like Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq and still occupies Iraq we may now have an Occupier in the white house, based on hypocrisy, lies and voter fraud.
Anyone else recognize this scenario? Only now the Democrats using the Reppublican play book are now what they have preached against. Add that with the misogynist attitude, disrespect and bully tactics…that about sums this fiasco up.
We’ve all lost.
Rise Independents Rise!
well, yes.
But guys like McCain, and Obama destroy the people who put them there, like Cheney, and Bush, neither is smart enough to run the country.
And that’s the point, in the end.
They want to fix elections,start wars, corrupt the government?
Well, let them.
I find it so telling that Obama supporters who adopted the Cllinton Hate of the right wing, and then took it to new lows with juvinile screeds.
Now come forth and accuse Hillary supporters of acting like Republicans.
Pay back is a beotch!
I like my new John McCain yard sign, it matches the Hillary sign.
Hey 0bababuts, How’s it feel to be rearranging lawn chairs on the deck of the sinking Titantic.
Check out Gallop polls on MI and Florida McCain vs. 0bie-won’t.
The Gods Love Irony!
LARRY
LARRY
EVERY HILL SUPPORTER —HERE IS THE LINK WITH BILL CLINTON,S ACCOMPLISHEMENTS ON IT
PLS POST IT HERE AND EVERYWHERE –
DO NOT LET ANYONE SAY ONE FUCKING WORD AGAINST BILL CLINTON .www.ironmyvote.com/accomplishments-90s.htm
# longest economic expansion in American history*–a record 115 months of economic expansion
# More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years — the most ever under a single administration
# Highest home ownership in American history
# Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
# Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
# Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
# Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
# Lowest crime rate in 26 years
# Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
# Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Mr. Della Pena —
What perfect, flawless commentary. You have spoken what I feel. What many of us feel.
Alas, the plan is already set — Hillary will be blamed for Obama’s loss. You see it everywhere. You hear it everywhere. The DNC is already feeding the talking points to their cable news shills. “If he loses to McCain it’s her fault.”
- it won’t have anything to do with Obama’s connection to Rev. Wright or Father Phalager.
- it won’t have anything to do with Obama condemning people of the heartland as bitter souls biased against people of color.
- it won’t have anything to with Rezko (the man he only did a few hours work for yet somehow knew well enough to enter a joint-property purchase).
- it won’t have anything to do with the Democratic party disenfrancising the voters of Michagan and Florida (even though three other states moved up their primaries with no punishment, states Obama was predicted to win: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina).
- it won’t have anything to do with the viciousness of Obama’s online supporters who have attacked and alienated fellow Democrats with non-stop vitriol.
- and it certainly won’t have anything to do with the mathematical fact that Obama squeezed out his lead by winning the most caucus delegates possible with the fewest ballots cast.
No. It will be Hillary’s fault when Obama loses to McCain.
Because she did not step aside.
Because she dared to allow all 50 states and territories to vote.
Because she ran against Obama like a true candidate instead of voluteering to coronate him.
It will be Hillary’s fault for daring to break the most institutionalized glass ceiling: POTUS.
Obama’s campaign began this year with a win in Iowa. I will never forgive or forget the statement made by Jesse Jackson, Jr., Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair:
“The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010400117.html
Obama has race baited and used sexist terms during the campaign. Obama never objected the above hateful statement. Hillary and the DNP may call for unity but I will never get behind a racist, sexist and hateful candidate no matter how well his campaign tried to transform his image.
My country comes before any political party. And, our country does not need another racist or sexist individual sitting in the White House.
Can’t believe he dare to bring up O.J. Why are all these “reverends” that have ties to B.O. so devoid of generosity and full of hatred? If you believe O.J. did kill his ex-wife and her friend and got away with it on technicalities, the implication of that statement is less rhetorical but blatantly ominous and truly horrendous.
The elephant in the room is oil prices shooting up to record levels.
Pushback for the AIPAC conference going on this week.
And Obama threatening to tinker with social security and medicare. Obama has already begin his “change” program. Just look how he has changed the democratic party.
Mr. Murder, this is O/T, but I was surprised to hear someone on the radio this weekend who is very knowledgeable about financial stuff talk about that Hillary was actually right about their being some Enron shenanigans going on. Speculators, apparently.
That was part of the bill that Obama backed, allowing the loopholes? I think I’m right about this.
Anyway, she was jeered about that remark. I even thought it was a campaign deal.
Apparently not. That IS the deal.
It really pissed me off when Karl Rove and GW Bush treated McCain the way they did–AND I WAS A DEMOCRAT. But Rove and Bush can’t hold a candle to the way Obama treated Clinton AND the rest of the American people in general. I would not vote for Obama even if he took both Hillary and Bill Clinton into his cabinet. Hell I wouldn’t even vote for Hillary if she had won the nomination and chose Obama to run as her VP. Anything with Obama attached to it is just crap to be flushed down the commode. And Race? Forget it. McCain is a different animal than the Clintons .
He’s a maverick. It may be fun to watch this race. McCain has a reputation of not exactly being predictable.
Yeah. I suppose he will “busta move” and try his old Chicago style politics using his learned Alinski style tactics. But I have an idea that karl Rove is a bit more EXPERIENCED at dirty politics than precious is.
Read the article on MSN this morning “Clinton Bloc Becomes Prize for Nov 4.” Of course, now Dean has just seen the video compilation of broadcasters’ comments about Hillary and has belatedly recognized the cries of sexism. His comments:
“We all get over it when our candidates don’t win,” he said. “What you don’t get over is feeling like you’ve been insulted by some of the leading institutions in America and no one said anything about it.”
Now where was he when the rest of us saw this video and the abuse by MSN? He is more stupid than OB if he thinks we believe this BS. Where was he during the primaries when his comments would have possibly made a difference? We are not battered women who run back to the Democratic Party for more abuse.
Then to add insult to injury in the article there are the comments by Claire McCaskill, who I assume thinks she is some spokeswoman for women:
“I’ve tried to make sure that everyone understood that these women have a right to feel frustrated and angry,” said Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, an important ally who is one of his leading emissaries to women. “To try to make that less than real is a huge mistake.”
I hope the people of Missouri especially women will make sure that this woman loses her Senate seat when she is next on the ballot. I wish Hillary would tell her that she forfeited her right to speak for women when she endorsed OB and condoned his sexism every time she got on MSM and gushed with the other infomercial announcers.
Howard Dean, the DNC and the likes of Claire McCaskill will be sent a loud message on Nov 4: W will not vote for a corrupt party and a racist, sexist candidate who does not share our values. None of your insulting pandering will change our vote. We are women and this is not the first time we have been put down and yes we have had to learn how to fight. We are the critical bloc on Nov 4; just watch us prove it
And let us not forget Gov. Janet Napolitano.
Although Arizona voted for Sen. Clinton, hands down, Napolitano sent her super-delegate vote to Obama.
As a woman and political leader of Arizona, she went against both groups.
She is outta here!
Good…….I’m starting to get the names into my head here.
They need to be voted out. If that’s not possible, then they need to have to spend a shit-load of money defending their positions.
This is the strategy that I call, “Drain the Bank.”
Let the Obama supporters try spreading all those 25 buck contributions all around the country and see how this works out for them. LOL*
Idiots……*muttering to myself*
Excellent comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I have a feeling that the voters in Missouri will remember McCaskill’s actions when her reelection bid comes up. She barely won this time, and I’m hoping her upcoming loss will be significant.
Let us know how we can help. She needs to go. These women who did this to Hillary, in particular, need to go.
I saw it and was offended.
Hillary supporters didn’t all fall in love with her immediately. She had to earn every vote from us through her actions. We’re also not dummies. We know the difference between tossing over a candidate due to a mistake (Bosnia) and seeing a pattern of dishonesty during the campaign such as what Obama continues to exhibit.
So the pandering, “Let the women be upset,” was off-the-point.
Until they talk about what they did to her and get honest, the bunch of them can bite my ass.
Now, if we want to sit down at the unity table and put the cards out on the table. If we want to have an open discussion within the party that Obama’s trashing of the Clintons was dead-wrong and offended 1/2 the party. If we want to discuss how some of the power boyz went along with that.
Then, maybe we could put the party back together again and even be strengthened by a good old-fashioned, “Come to Jesus,” talk.
Until then? They are merely demeaning us and minimizing the real issues.
They still are not listening.
“Now, if we want to sit down at the unity table and put the cards out on the table. If we want to have an open discussion within the party that Obama’s trashing of the Clintons was dead-wrong and offended 1/2 the party. If we want to discuss how some of the power boyz went along with that.”
Too late for that discussion. Unity is impossible now. They rigged the election. Their regret now is meaningless, no?
Bravo. After reading this article I feel energized.
After reading the comments, though, I am amused.
This is going to be a fierce election season. Emotions will run high. I am just beginning to exhale after the primaries, but I know I had better get ready to hold my breath again.
It is going to be a tight race. I suggest we decide whether to support McCain or write in Sen. Clinton. No “staying on the fence” for the next few months.
I hope everyone logs into the McCain site SOON and begins contributing lots of money. Let your presence be known and give his campaign the energy it needs to match the Obama robots.
As a Hillary supporter, I have logged on and joined his team. Bought a t-shirt, which will