Let’s Help Barack Fight the “Smears”
By Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on June 12, 2008 at 8:27 AM in Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan, Michelle Obama, Nation of Islam, Rashid Khalidi, Weather Underground, William Ayers
This is precious. Barack is in a snit over so-called smears. (Deb, thanks for the tip.) Karen Tumulty writes in Time Magazine:
According to campaign officials, what finally launched Obama into a full rumor counteroffensive was a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson. Quoting “someone in touch with a senior Republican,” Johnson claimed that there was a video of Michelle Obama “blasting ‘whitey’ during a rant at Jeremiah Wright’s church.” (Later versions of the rumor had Michelle’s “rant” happening at a Rainbow/push Coalition conference.) No such videotape has surfaced.
Now, are you ready for the shocker? Look at the next paragraph of Karen’s piece:
When the Obama campaign got wind of the rumor in April, Michelle’s close friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett asked Michelle if there could be anything to it; the candidate’s wife dismissed it out of hand.
I did not hear about the tape until MAY. REPEAT. I DID NOT HEAR ABOUT THE TAPE UNTIL MAY. Yet, the Obama campaign knew about the tape in April. Got it? And I am the one responsible for the so called rumor?
Au contraire. What is really fascinating is that the Obama campaign continues to issue a non-denial denial. They are fighting so-called smears, but not challenging the very facts that underlie the charges.
There is a recording of Michelle Obama using a racial slur about white people. I have not seen the tape but I am certain that the people who have told my sources they have seen such a tape are telling the truth. What is really interesting is that the Obama folks knew about this long before I did.
And you know what else? One of my sources told me last week that the Obama camp knew about the tape. So the Obamas have confirmed what one of my sources about the existence of the tape has told me.
I am happy to take credit for being the one who has put the Obama campaign on edge. But it looks like they themselves knew there was a problem.
Obama = Hitler
Axelrod = Goebbels
Not sure if you are a regular poster, but if so you don’t help the case against Obama by comparing Obama to someone who tried to exterminate an entire ethnic group. There is no need to resort to absurdity when there is already much to work with.
Not that I agree with Bella’s sentiment, but given Obama’s friends, such as Farrakhan, and Odinga, I’m not too sure she misses the mark.
Yep, Farrakhan “Hitler was a great man.”
Birds of a feather!
Did he really say that???
We should find a link and keep reminding these cultists of that fact. I know MOST good Democrats do NOT like anti-semitic hate talk any more than they like racist talk.
Although it seems Democrats promote and prefer slandering women.
Keith O being the worst on msnbc and Cafferty his equal on cnn
fox is pretty much run by women lately so there’s not too much of it over there
I like Megan and the rest of the other women over there. They are NOT the bimbos that the LEFT had brainwashed me into believing.
NO MORE BRAINWASHING
He did, he also said Judaism is a gutter religion.
You can Google it, I can’t ever get links to go thru on here for some reason.
Bella; put them in quotes and they won’t get trapped.
I don’t think the republicans will have trouble finding a link and reminding the electorate of BO’s past pals and mentors.
Both are media whores!
To be in full context, what Farrakhan said was: “In the realm of evil and wickedness Adolph Hitler was a great man”
From Final Call:
To all my best research, there is no record of Farrakhan calling Judaism a “gutter religion”. I know that a local radio host has put $10,000 on the table for anyone who can find evidence Farrakhan ever this.
To me that doesn’t discount Farrakhan’s comments as anything less than anti-semetic, but I’m a stickler for footnotes and actualities.
And I’m patient for a tape to come out. It has more power hidden than revealed, especially if it actually exists. Let people fester and stew on their myths until you show them the evidence. It would hurt all the more.
If I’ve learned anything about politics this last year, its all about timing.
Many years ago, I watched a speech on television by Farrakhan, and I heard him say that Judaism is a gutter religion. He was saying that in the context of criticizing the Jews for not having a tradition of forgiveness.
Not to mention Axelrod’s campaign to harass into silence any opposition to Obama. (See this article today from http://liberalrapture.com/ entitled Obamapods Hate The First Amendment.)
Get your facts straight people
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
Oh PULEAZE.
And Odinga is an ethnic cleanser, a mass murderer.
I am disgusted, Obama sends friendly advisers, to help.
Oh bugger off you troll. Your candidate does what he wants and the parent is merely expressing something that’s painfully obvious to anyone with a brain and the conceited idea it can be used for thinking.
Comparing Obama to Hitler is perfectly appropriate as Obama is a demagogue and despot.
Comparing Herr Axelrod to Josef Göbbels is perfectly appropriate as Axelrod is the incarnation of Göbbels in the television and Internet age. In fact I am sure Josef Göbbels would smile in admiration of the satanic work of Herr David Axelrod.
Myself I don’t like comparing Axelrod to Göbbels too much. Personally I find him more like Saruman or something equally evil. But that’s only different strokes for different folks.
Next time around we’ll find something to compare you O-teens to. Bye.
Uhmmm - anyone read Mein Kampf or Obama’s books? I think the comparison may well fit - both extreme racialists and same campaign/overthrow style of bully and submission. Hitler blames the Jews, Obama’s book and beliefs of Black Liberation Theology blames all white people (and Nation of Islam also blames the Jews). Man - haven’t these people ever heard of self-responsibility?
Obama could cure cancer & you’d see evil in it.
If he cured it, he flip-flop the next day and create a strain that was immune to the cure.
I’ve built an anti-”fight the smears” site and I’d appreciate suggestions for additions.
http://www.fightbarack.com
thanks!
Eva Braun wannabe
You Obamabots are dumber than a sack of hammers, that I know for sure, lol. Ok, so you want to use the anti-smear Obamabots website to try and counter truths, fine by me. I will also use YOUR OWN WEBSITE to counter your BS, all the while using your mail servers, lol. Thank your leader for me will ya, lol.
Ok, here is the step by step procedure to use the Obamabot website to send out free emails to counter their BS, lol.
Step 1
Go to : http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/notape
Step 2
Where it asks for your email, put in ANY email you wish, maybe even something like ” Obama@liar.com “, be creative, lol.
Step 3
Where it asks for your name , put in ANY name you wish, maybe even something like ” Michelle Obama”, lol.
Step 4
Where you see the BS message, highlight and DELETE the message and insert your own message, perhaps even a link back to here, lol.
Step 5
Where is says TO, well just fill in up to 10 email addresses where you want the email to go to, perhaps even send it back to the Obamabot’s, lol.
There ya go, an easy way to use the Obamabots own STUPID website to counter their BS, oh so much fun, lol.
You seriously need to grow up.
Yeah I did that. That was really cool. Thanks!
Your methods are really making this country safer and more reasonable. I’ll bet you match this approach to screaming a point of view with free gun ownership.
Thank you for bringing that to light again.
What is it with the American public and the press that they look the other way? It is very clear that Obama has or still has questionable, hateful friends. I say “birds of a feather flock together.”
Is the press run by Muslim terrorist organizations who are determined to crown this guy as Prince of America? Does anybody pay attention to what is going on? The press is the danger here. They feed the masses all kind of BS and the masses eat it up. We have got to do something guys.
Is the press run by Muslim terrorist organizations who are determined to crown this guy as Prince of America?
No. Of course not. The media are run by powerful corporate interests who would prefer anybody to a Hillary and the more they think about it would actually love a demagogue in a cheap suit like Obama. Then they could really bamboozle people!
It’s called fascism, folks. And it’s finally inevitably come to roost in the United States.
There were people opposed to Hitler who didn’t end up in the concentration camps but history teaches us they had a really tough time convincing the morons Hitler was a danger.
Back in 1935 people were excited and positive about Hitler the way the goons are excited about Barry today. Back in 1935 those who opposed Hitler were not only abused, harassed, murdered - they were considered to be WRONG.
Then time went on, the thinkers were proven right, perhaps a hundred million people were killed or wounded, an entire continent was laid to waste - and gee whiz said the morons to themselves. I guess we were wrong after all. Aw shucks! But it admittedly was a close call! Hey - who could have possibly known?
So you keep it up, you weeny wusses. You keep it up. But people will survive the holocaust you create and this time they will point the finger. This time you shall take the blame.
THIS SITE IS TO FIGHT SMEAR’S, THE OBAMA’S SHOULD STOP TRYING TO SMEAR OTHERS.
DEMOCRAT BOB BECKEL ON FOX NEWS
GOT THIS STORY GOING ABOUT MICHELLE…
NOT LIMBAUGH
Never too early to start the baseless fearmongering huh??? Sorry Charlie (aka Bella), won’t work this time around…the Country’s been there, done that, seen that playbook…its OLD!!!!!!GET A NEW ONE. TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY (STUPID), THE UNJUST WAR, HEALTHCARE, RECORD HIGH GAS PRICES.. HOW ‘BOUT SOME REAL ISSUES….
Who do you think you’re fooling?
It’s one thing to launch another Goebbels like PR drive, another to ignore it’s being countered, or used against YOU.
Get it?
WOW… you guys are the worst kind of sleaze. I truly believe that the world would be a much better place with scum like you.
And Larry go crawl under the rock you came from
Wow, cool!
You really are a thinker, I stand in amazement, and awe.
Shithead.
Only if you join him, bitch.
OMG…where did you learn to write? Troll maggot…make like a caca and flush yourself down the toilet.
Wow, is this the line they tell you to use over at Debunking central–CLEVER
I am interpreting your remarks as a comparison of the Nazi Propaganda Machine and the Obama Propaganda Machine. And I think you have made a valid point. However, the Nazis are remembered more for mass murder than for the sophistication of their propaganda and the comparison you’ve made sounds absurd because most of us think of 6 million murdered Jews and millions of others murdered as well. So, I get it, but I think it’s over the top to bring up Hitler and Goebbels. That said, witness this mornings’s editorials in the Palm Beach Post … first is an editorial on “why” it was a good thing Obama got rid of Johnson. Under that is an editorial on why the media did not cause Hillary to lose. Outrageous propaganda in a mainstream newspaper. And ironic that this paper, which is so pro-Obama even their letters to the editor are selected for their “endorsements” of the candidate — this paper still feels it needs to attack Clinton, even after she’s left the race, in an editorial! It’s as if they’re admitting that Obama cannot win unless energy is focused on hating Clinton. Of course, opposite these editorials is yet another generous helping of Maureen Dowd, talking about Bill and Hillary’s “enemies list,” which to minds with memories of the 70s (the Hillary vote so coveted by Obama), puts the Clintons in league with Nixon. So, Bella, on second thought, I think Goebbels would be so proud of the Obama media consortium. And Hitler would have no complaints, except that Obama doesn’t have blue eyes, blond hair and whiter than white skin. Well, it’s not a perfect world is it, Adolf? Still Herr Hitler, your legacy is intact — hate has definitely been the ultimate weapon of the Obama campaign. And their blitzkrieg goes on…!
This namecalling was really helpful. Thanks so much.
Take a good look at Axelrod. He is the one God made to look like Hitler, right down to the moustache and hairline. Obama however is the screamer and angry hater who is the inspirer of Hitlerian racism. Axelrod may be Hitler’s face but Obama is his voice.
As for Obama, what does God have to say about him?
Hussein - “house in” emergency: foreclosure crisis
Sub-loan crisis = sub-due emergency = submit emergency (Arabic translation for the word “submission”, subduing is “islam”)
The “can” man from “Kansas” is the “ken” man (Hebrew translation for the word “submission, subduing” = Arabic word “islam”)
The Hussein crisis, like many others, is a sign from God, not about the war in Iraq, but about O-bomb-A.
They are both cartoons.
I dont give them a second thought, except here, and then only because it would be irresponsible not to, if only for the people of this country, those who care about their future, but don’t blog, for whatever reason.
They are NOT intelligent men, they have delusions of intelligence.
I waiting for GOP use of the tape
Keep up the censorship, fools!
Barack has a new website to combat Rethuglican sites like this. It is:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
GAME OVER!
Now, erase this post like you did all the others!
Sweet…
Justice
Censorship, don’t you mean Obamatwat sabatoge of sites speaking against the anointed communist one?
Sounds like a hitler youth speaking out again….lol
Just ice Obama style, believe my lies, because I am the one, the one we’ve been waiting for…..opps pressed the pause button by Obamistake again…lol
He’s talking about yesterday’s crash. Aren’t these Obamabots suppose to be the ones savvy about technology?
Gee, even I can tell when it’s a server crash versus when I’ve been blocked.
He must be a refugee from HuffPo with that insane moderation policy over there.
He won’t combat rumours with talent like you, he needs smart people.
Apparently, he has yet to hire one.
It isn’t simply a matter of counter aggression, that would be Cheney in Iraq, or Israel in Palestine.
How’d that work out?
Not too well.
And they still can’t figure out WHY it didn’t work.
Obama is dispatching his zombies to shout down anyone who speaks the truth about him and you think LARRY is guilty of censorship?
Well, I hope he sends smart zombies, an army of cows is still an army of cows.
The Plastic Jesus has a website….
Now I’m Scared!
NOT!
Hey Justice,
I don’t see anything at that website where Obama or his wife Michelle give a 100% denial on public record, lol.
Also, I don’t even see the so called “smear” about Larry Sinclair and Obama doing cocaine and having homosexual sex, even though Larry Sinclair will be at the National Press Club next Wed. June 18 2008 at 3PM
to tell the world about it. I dare you to put that smear up, you won’t, you are too scared, lol.
Here ya go loser, right on the main page:
http://npc.press.org/
Larry Sinclair on Obama
Time: 3:00 PM
Event Type: News Conference
Sponsored by: Veritas Federal Media
Event Location: Lisagor Room
Details: Larry reveals the truth about Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.
Contact:Montgomery Sibley
866-855-4708
mbsibley@earthlink.net
Obama Camp Scared:”Internet War Room” Starts Internet Smear.
So, when threatened, he knee jerks, and over reacts?
Hmmmm those dont seem like good qualities in a CIC do they?
LOL!!
LOL…and the Dems/Reid just insulted McCain’s temperament.
At least he gets riled over real topics and not free speech on the net.
http://www.co.pueblo.co.us/cgi-bin/webpurbroker.wsc/mostoff.html?name=135062
What BO (and god, doesn’t he smell?) has is a huge dark HATE BLANKET that he is laying over the former Democratic party smothering everything that is good, noble and human. Everyone else is running for the exits.
The imagery in this comment is illuminating.
I saw a blanket over a pile of shit.
We would get better “illumination” without the blanket dude….remember when we had free speech, ahh those were the days
now Obots follow us to our virtual homes and one by one coopt our blogs and harass us, and these are our “fellow Dems” gee and I thought only the GOP suppressed dissent, once again the Dems under Uhhbama co-opt GOP tactics to destroy the things our party stood for….
Exactly, “co-opt our blogs and harass us.” There are people saying things on this blog that I know they wouldn’t say. They’re being impersonated just to paint them and this site as ignorant racists.
This is truly hilarious reading. Obamabots? Hitler? Someone says “and these are your fellow dems?” You’re my fellow dems? You people keep this up and come November you can just salute your new Republican President. Won’t that make Senator Clinton and the rest of the democrats proud?
If anyone seems to be following blindly it is the Clinton supporters and their Obama bashing on blogs everywhere is eerily similiar to the garbage you’re spouting here but you don’t hijack blogs with nasty comments right? You don’t believe wholeheartedly in your candidate (who by the way is now a fellow Obamabot, she’s been cleverly assimulated!) that you feel the need to defend her when you feel as though she’s been slandered. No, you wouldn’t do THAT! The evil media is so gender biased. I’m sure 6 months ago when they were touting Senator Clinton (notice the respect I’m granting her despite her many proven lies?) as the Democratic candidate they MUST have assumed she was in drag…
I do my research and I know the candidate I’m backing is the right person for the job. I’m not being told who to vote for or what to believe, I’ve seen for myself the lies that have been shot down time and time again. Nothing that’s been thrown at him has stuck, just a lot of IF it exists, IF it’s true, IF, IF, IF…(funny comment about not having video way back in 2004 btw, but I can find a rare song from 1987 on Youtube…)
Seriously and you’re calling us bots? Do you people read the stuff you write?
No doubt you’ll all jump all over this like a pack of hyenas but I won’t be back. I have 200 more blogs to hijack before bedtime. PFFT! All I can say is if President McCain still has us in Iraq in 2006, and our vets who come home have nothing to come back to, don’t come crying to us.
2009…would have caught it if not for the typing delay in posting.
NOW I have to go hijack 200 more blogs.
Oh, now these are some great facts that will make any intelligent person immediately vote against Obama.
Yes, let’s talk about the important issues of a candidates body oder.
Great discourse…
You of course, unable to address the larger points.
Again.
Because you can’t.
hello kettle, this is the pot. You’re black.
you racist!!!!
gasp!!!!
typical. That’s not a racist remark.
Typical. You can’t understand a joke.
Hey- Michelle brought up him being “stinky and snorey” - hence my screen name…
Does BO have sleep apnea? (snoring)
Uh, who is trying censoring whom? Go home Troll…go troll elsewhere.
yessssss!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDc-1zfffMw&feature=related
It’s like having a conversation with the bamsterbites, isn’t it?
BAM! OOOF! BONG! POW!
Game over indeed in a few months when your candidate and his minions (and that includes you) will realize what this means: B.O.W.L. Big Time in November!* The only question now is by how many? Will it be like Carter vs. Reagan in ‘80 (a possibility)? Or Mondale vs. Reagan in ‘84? (very likely)? Or Kerry vs. Bush in ‘04 (and this is the best case scenario already for Team Obama). No matter who they select as his running mate, the people will not be bamboozled. Kerry’s Swiftboating is nothing compared to what the bogus candidate of change will receive - and this time around, he deserves every damn hit! Hell hath no fury…and we’re just starting! Tadah!
*Barack Obama Will Lose Big Time in November!
You wish - you spiteful scrote.
That webpage is great — let me rate it for you:
Graphics and Style: 10
Content and Truth: 0
There you go!
Thanks, I was looking for some evidence one way or the other (whether the stories about Obama were true). You’ve completely convinced me that they are with those great facts you’ve pointed out.
Deutschland Deutschland über alles!
Jawohl!
I think you should change your sentence “There is a recording of Michelle Obama using a racial slur about white people.”
As you haven’t seen the tape yourself, you can’t be 100% certain that it exists. You should use a line like “I strongly believe that such a tape exists.”
They should release the tape now that would be so funny after Obama has up this site, I could just see all the uh uhmm ah that he will be saying to combat this one.
Ein reich, ein volk undt ein fuhrer!
you cite one of Hitler’s proclamation:
ein Reich - one empire
ein Volk - one people
ein Führer - one leader
it’s the same with all fascist regimes, left or right. Those who don’t follow will be persecuted and distroyed.
Let’s take a look at a few early warning signs of fascism:
- fraudulent elections (DNC)
- rampant cronyism ad corruption (Rezko, Ayers etc)
- disdain for the intellectual and the arts
- labor power suppressed (bluecollarworkers?)
- controlled mass media (or being their “pet”?)
- rampant sexism (or misogyny)
- disdain for human rights (bullying at caucuses,
racism)
Doesn’t look pretty now, does it?
I do know that it’s from crazy old uncle adolph.
Thanks for the update
I never doubted you knew whom you quoted, but your spelling was a little off, so I allowed myself to translate. Anyway, not everybody might be as informed as you are, especially since those oposing Obama are supposed to be intellectually less gifted.(!!!) Didn’t mean to offend you though, sorry.
comment further down:
Fascism is a one party system of government in which the individual is subordinated to the state and control is maintained….
You mean like what the DNC did to the nomination process-facism with abig dose of Mcarthyism–asking us to swear loyalty to the party and THEIR candidate
is he another crazy Uncle??????
what is with the uncles????
You know, every politician today would fit in that using your twisted logic.
Maybe we should just give up on the political system then…
Just gotta love the stupid GOPers who say a fascist can have views on the left of the political spectrum. Just totally denying the definition of fascism. If you’re going to slur someone on the internets, at least look the word up first.
Ain’t “party unity” grand?
Excellent list.
Here’s one for detecting cult leaders:
1. Demands total obedience to the cult leader
2. Persecutes and tries to silence any critic of the cult leader
3. Asks for followers’ money, even when the cult leader has enough
4. Separates people from their family or friends or alliances by attacking anyone of them who criticizes the cult leader
5. Creates a new cult made up of recycled symbols
6. Steals the words and ideas from real messengers of God and other people and recycles and pretend they are the cult leader’s
7. Promises change and always delivers it - for the worst for the followers who get to experience, always, a financial loss of all their assets, while the cult leader becomes rich for mouthing simple slogans
8. Separates followers from non-followers by using paranoia and hate of those who don’t agree with the cult leader
9. Demands his followers “change their beliefs” - or as Obama recycles that as “change we can believe in”
wow, thanks for the great post.
I really a good thing Hillary didn’t win the primary and McCain won’t win the general. We don’t need a cult leader as president.
Wow, I wasn’t going to vote for Obama, but your “I know you are but what am I response” convinced me. LOL.
Comparing Obama to Hilter is an isult to the people who actually lived under his oppresive regime and had their families murdered en masse by his henchmen.
You people never cease to amaze me with your disgusting disrepect for history. And facts. And logic. And general common sense.
We are hearing that Obama refuses to release his birth certificate. What is he hiding? His birthplace? His supposed status as a natural born citizen of the United States? When American citizens apply for a job, we often have to produce our birth certificate, SS, or 2 forms of I.D. This man wants to rule us as President. People, rise up and DEMAND this man release this crucial information!
Obama wasn’t born. He was made.
God bless you….
Angry? Pretty silly too.
I read somewhere where his mom gave birth to him when she was 16 and whisked him back to the U.S.
Either he was born in Africa to a teenage girl, and/or his real name is Barry Soretos (sp) and he changed it.
This Obama is ridiculous. The whole frigging thing.
Religious status maybe father muslim mother atheist!
BINGO!
Please stop trolling. You’re O/T and we’re tired of being bomabarded with this.
most likely his parents were not married.
He was born in a stable in Bethlehem. Didn’t you know???
It really doesn’t surprise me that Hillary/McCain supporters really believe that noone has confirmed that Obama is a natural born citizen of the USA. The desperation and hate that comes from either your candidate loosing in the primary or realizing that McCain will loose the general is overwhelming.
“Hillary lost in the primary so I’m going to vote for McCain = I believe in the right of a woman to choose but I’m such a sore looser that I’m going to vote for someone who will appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will overturn Roe Vs Wade”. - Brilliant!
You need some new talking points. Yawn. Time to check in with Barry’s people and get your Kool-Aid topped off.
Now that’s irony. responding to my post with the tired “you need new talking points” and the Kool-Aid remark. Very original yourself.
How about this. Instead of posting insults, how about some facts backing up statments. that would better suit the discussion, don’t you think?
Here’s an insult for you–you’re a sanctimonious twit.
You throw out the old “pot calling the kettle black” cliche, and then have the nerve to call ME unoriginal? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black…
The Roe argument is SO yesterday. It didn’t have any traction when you ‘bots were instructed to start using it after the DNC selected Barry, and it still doesn’t. You DO need a new argument. Problem is, you don’t have one.
BTW, “lose,” not “loose.” And “internets?” Who are you, George W. Bush? Where do you get off talking down to me?
Shouldn’t you be out looking for a summer job? Or will you be selling your video games to pay for next year’s tuition?
assumptions, assumptions…
Yes, the “internets” misspelling is a jab at GW, not you.
It’s sad you think the Roe “argument” is not relevant. I happen to know many, many women who think it is.
Speaking of talking points:
-not all people who dislike Hillary are teenagers, get a clue. Here’s a huge surprise for you, I’m 36. I don’t need a summer job as I have a full time job.
-isn’t the line regarding the summer job and video games a little tired and cliche? You didn’t even say one thing regaring political arguments and you have the impudence to say I need a new one.
This is the problem with people like you; blindly supporting a candidate without knowing why, or at least without the ability to debate said candidate. All you do is put down other candidates.
Just throw out your lame insults and assumptions. Way to improve/add to the discourse. But what else should I expect from a Hillary/McCain supporter.
wtf, doesn’t your brilliant self know the difference between “lose” and “loose”? Please get dictionary.
Also, a McCain vote is a protest vote against the fascistic excesses of the DNC and your savior candidate.
wtf, doesn’t your brilliant self know the difference between “lose” and “loose”? Please get a dictionary.
Also, a McCain vote is a protest vote against the fascistic excesses of the DNC and your savior candidate.
This is an article that is most informative. One of Obama’s colleagues.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66397 Really an amazing read.
I went to the link you provided, carolyn, and read the article. Very interesting, thanks.
wtf: the supreme court already has enough judges who can overturn Roe v. Wade if they wish. So far, nothing happening. Please stop threatening women voters with a DNC talking point that is used by the DNC like a leash around our necks. We are a free gender and can make our own choices.
Smart…
Then go ahead and vote for a guy who will put even more of those justices on the bench. We won’t be a free gender much longer with that train of thought.
Oh, and it wasn’t a threat, just pointing out something you may not want to think about or are uncapable of thinking about.
Typical, anything said against McCain or Hillary is a threat, not information…
perhaps it reflects that he adopted the name Hussein and that would blow his whole, they are calling me hussein to smear me, line…..
Axelrasputin probably had the name changed before the run…..
JustSayNoDeal.com
PUMAPAC.ORG
Fuck Barack Obama.
Humm, very (in)articulate..God bless you, Barak Obama and the good old USA!
ebonyscrews,
I’m with you! And so I will say it again:
JustSayNoDeal.com
PUMAPAC.ORG
Fuck Barack Obama.
BOOYAH !!!!!!!!
PUMA BABY!!!!!
Just a wild guess on my part, but you’re not only going to end up being credited with this but also responsible for the internet response troll army brigade. *haha
It’s too funny. You’d think the campaign would be a little bit smarter than to even talk about “Whiteygate,” let alone tip the reporter off about any damning details.
Oh, they aren’t stupid. They know it’s coming. This is to prepare the troops time.
You are right! This is a rallying cry!
Oh puhlease. Some baseless rumor is repeated by someone else and suddenly it counts as corroboration. I am so pleased our courts rely on more substantive evidence.
DO they? Can you say Florida?
they are brainwashing you now so that when the tape comes out-you will already be in full denial-like the rev. wright tape
Well it’s good to know that he is employed yet more people to patrol the internet. I know I’ll sleep better at night now because Barak says it’s a lie. We all know that everything he says is the truth and he never spins anything..
Wright
Pfleger
Ayers
Johnson
The list just keeps piling up.
Has anyone seen the despicable comments Gen. Wesley Clark has made about McCain and his military service? I guess he is interviewing for the VP job. I bet Hillary is real proud of her former supporter. Another turncoat!
Petraeus has allowed McCain to use his picture, on an ad, though he claimed no knowledge.
The head of centcomm allowing himself to be so closely associated with a Presidential candidate?
WTF is wrong with you peapod, remember, the army is supposed to stay apolitical?
hey claribel borden…yeah and there is supposed to be separation of Church and state..so your point is what ?? when Barry is holding faith based meetings?????????? And hsi minsters do the humpty hump in church about the last democratic president and his wife ..the only democratic president to hold two terms in 37 years…
get the F outta here…i think we have evoled into what we hated..thanks to Obamabots!
now go away!
fly
did you see the little blurb on the bottom of McCain’s site, not sure if it was added later, it says use of images of DOD CENTCOMM not an endorsement yada yada yada
I guess Uhhbama didnt think to put one up
Use of BlackPanther, Wright, Pflegler, Ayers endorsements not an endorsement of Black Liberation Theology yada yada yada
Larry
If you are the only one responsible, then what was Hannity, Rush, Beckel, et. al. talking about?
Take the Credit! It’s a badge of honor!
Isn’t it interesting that on the site they say that “no such tape exists” instead of denying that she actually said Whitey? Uh oh!
And how do they claim she said “why-did-he”, if she never made such remarks???
puleeeaze!
And we all believe Obamistake don’t we, just like he never heard Wright say anything ill willed, oh yes he did, oh no he didn’t, oh damn where is the yellow button?
MAYBE IT’S A DVD!!
BWAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I read that the O website is encouraging people visiting the site to “give the campaign their e-mail addresses to “spread the “truth” Yeah, right. Oh how creeeeepy.
It would be interesting to know who owns the TV station that employed the moderators to the “rant” event and why the video can’t be ontained from them. Anyone know? Larry?
Channel-7, The Chicago ABC affiliate, employed the Journalists who acted as Moderators at Jesse Jackson’s PUSH-Rainbow Power 25th Anniversary event in 2004.
Channel 7 has footage of the event with Michelle spoke.
Channnel 7 is refusing to release this footage, unless they are subpeoned to do so!
If this is not a Journalistic derelection of duty, What is?
There are probably dozens of tapes with Obamarosa ranting and raving about “Whitey”. I imagine she does little else in private.
Gosh, Oh gosh. The Obama camp got wind of the rumor in APRIL and Larry did not hear about it till MAY. I know……..Obama is psychic, after all, he is the blessed one, is he not?
BTW is there room under the Obama clown bus for Gadhafi? Gadhaif just realized he does not really know Obama and is disappointed in him.
I had to actually laugh at a story I read on the Foxnews.com website today. Apparently Gadhafi is disappointed with Obama and learning that none of us know the real Obama! Gadhafi said,” We expected his change to mean that he will stand beside the Palestinian people, the besieged and the victims of injustice,” Gadhafi said, referring to Obama as “our brother, the Kenyan with American nationality.” MAYBE GADHAFI SHOULD RESERVE HIS SEAT UNDER THE BUS.
You forget, Obamistake see dead people, so logically then he must be able to see into the future and it looks grim, no new free housing for Obamistake and family!
They knew about the tape, because I believe it’s going to be shown in the new anti-Obama documentary coming out this fall.
David Bossie, a huge Clinton hater who also did a doc on her, Hillary - The Movie, said he would vote for Hillary over Obama HANDS DOWN any day of the week.
Not even the brown shirts can stop this video from coming out!
yup, he was on fox last night. it just might be that the tape is coming out in that movie. that should get it quite a bit of exposure. pay for view?
Obama is psychic
Ms. Cleo is a campaign spiritual advisor, don’t cha know!
For sure!
We certainly don’t have to rely on the whitey tape being released to be concerned about Obama as a Presidential nominee:
1. many flip-flops (too numerous to mention)
2. lack of judgement
3. long-term and intimate associations with radicals and criminals
4. lack of experience in legislature
5. divisiveness
6. promotion of thug-like tactics
7. promotion of Clinton smears (MLK, RFK remarks)
8. ignorance in domestic, foreign and economic policies
In sum, lack of core values and qualifications we need in a President of the US.
Agree completely.
Although I believe Larry that the tape exists and that what I’ve seen of Michelle makes her comments on that tape QUITE possible….
I don’t need the tape to know I can’t vote for Obama.
The man is a product of the Chicago political machine, with little true experience and loads of unsavory associations to claw his way to the top.
The Michelle tape is just icing on the cake.
Surprisingly has anyone noticed there is no word on the birth certificate smear on his site. Like they forgot to give us the truth on the birth paper deal, all he had to do was put a copy of it on there under the heading truth, show us and stop all the chatter.
Maybe someone needs to write Obama and let him know that another smear is the birth certificate then he will publish it for us to debunk what is being said, while he is at it there are other missing links he needs to fill out also, seem like his new site is a bit incomplete.
the Time article does address this - they say he will be posting a pdf of his BC. I think too little, too late. Why should we believe anything at this point? A PDF!
A PDF????? Oh boy! A Mail Order Birth Certificate!
Well, then nothing will convince you. What do you expect? Him to send his actual BC to you?
Come on….that’s silly talk.
LOL, of course I don’t expect him to send it to me. i just think it is very convenient to produce digital proof of documentation. This issue has been circulating for a while now (a few months at least) and I wonder with everything else that is being questioned why he didn’t address it immediately. i mean come on, his school records were eaten by BUGS! it’s all very stinky.
If he’s linking it to his site, that’s pretty good. I see the point about digital, but gosh, aren’t we getting a bit demanding? He had to produce his BC for a passport.
There’s yet another issue about a Kenyan bc that states he’s Muslim. Frankly, I find stuff like this a bit off-putting.
I’m just moderate, I guess. I’m not into sweating the small stuff.
I think the issue perhaps is he CO-OPTS Secty of States to do his dirty work for him in counting votes, dead votes, like Katherine Harris in 2000 for Dubyah, so why not for vital records purposes?
come on why wouldnt he have shut this down long ago..
I think his birth name isnt barack hussein, I think he changed to that lata to put off the Muslim “smears” by claiming it for himself, I think it would embarrass him to be known as Barry Harold Obama…
or perhaps this is the straw man argument to knock down and use as an example of “smears” like the NATIONAL GUARD dan rather story…..
Do you suppose that is what the republicans were looking for when they peeked into his passport record?????? Can you think of a better way to humiliate the democratic party than to have a presidential nominee who is an illegal???
wouldn’t he have to have it for a number of things like passports, mortgages, insurance? it isn’t that hard here. question though just where was he born? sure i think his american mother is his mother, but i get the feeling there is more there there.
This is why I think we should request a copy of the 1961 official form used by the state of Hawaii. That will tell us what he’s trying to whitewash.
Obama and his campaign know what we want: to see his original birth certificate document.
Not a digital 21st century clone.
Texas Darlin had a list of missing documents we’d like to see, including:
So if Obama staff is scouring this site, please, we’d like to see some of this stuff.
By the way, these Hitler references (probably planted by pro-Obama people) have no place in civilized discourse. That is not what this site is about. It is about fair debate about both candidates’ inadequacies, as Larry said yesterday.
You are an idiot if you think I’m an Obamabot.
I have to agree with Bella on this, I think there is cause for concern.
Listen to Farrakhan, look at whom Obama associates himself with, it’s brutal, and it’s not just some kooky Middle Eastern and African guys, spewing.
Auchi, and Wright, Hamas, anyone?
Odinga has shown he is capable of genocide, too, Obama, and Morris, seem to feel this is no problem.
Which doesn’t mean he is actively advocating the murder of Jews, but he doesn’t seem appalled, either, doesn’t seem to understand what he’s seeing, and the level of batshit crazy he is dealing with.
how many Americans took a HS Grad trip to Pock-e-stahn
raise your virtual hands now everyone…
hmmnnn nary a one of us
okay then just wondering….
It was his college graduation and that was about the same time as Al Queida started their training camps in pakistan
There’s an interesting article (blog) about BHO, which points out the similaritites between Hitler and Obama.
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/obama-supporters-guide/
Have you seen McCain’s birth certificate?
The state department has all this records (Remember the leak in April). It is a CONSTITUTIONAL matter, no one will be allowed to contest for the presidency (or even Senate) without being cleared of this.
You really are all sick. Why not stick to the issues. Nothing wrong in disagreement based on issues. Its really not about the candidate. Maybe personal counseling will resolve some issues.
You were shamed that a tape doesnt exist (he called the bluff) and you shameless move on to the birth certificate.
Analysis is your friend, take a course in literature, say, from a top flight humanities teacher, and learn to understand what you read.
Ancient propaganda technique is not your friend.
They simply DO NOT have the intellectual capacity to understand what they see, understand the implications of what they see.
And those are the idiots who start wars in the middle east — “what could happen, we have the guns!!!”
lol.
J. Richter, Larry has not been shamed by “a tape doesnt [sic] exist.” Until it is either shown or fails to appear by election day, the tape is unproven. Remember, Obama initially “called the bluff” on Goolsbee’s Canadian meeting and was caught lying.
What about the tape of McCain using the word “gooks”? I’m inclined to treat that in the same way as the “Whitey” tape - doesn’t exist until someone proves otherwise. Frankly, in the age of YouTube, if something nasty’s out there it will be on YouTube immediately. And, given all the exposure this tape has had, someone who was there would have tried to seek a few $ for the inside scoop. Maybe they did and they produced evidence like: “a friend of a friend was there. Wow did Michelle rant”.
“Its really not about the candidate.”
Who are you trying to kid, it’s all about the candidate, lol.
“You were shamed that a tape doesnt exist (he called the bluff) and you shameless move on to the birth certificate.”
I don’t see or feel any “shame” on this blog, you are trying to project your own thought, very badly I must say, lol. I have yet to see Michelle and/or Obama 100% deny on public record the existence of said “whitey tape”. All I see is some non-denial and a BS website that purports to squash a “rumor” without Michelle and/or Obama denying 100% on public record. As for the birth certificate, well that’s just another in a long list of things Obama wants to keep under wraps, lol. So stop crying me a river, instead tell your leader Obama to get his head out of his azz and start producing what the PUBLIC is asking for, unless he has something to hide of course, lol.
Right On!!!
there are some early warning signs of fascism, though.
I disagree respectfully. I see signs of control. That’s different.
He blocked the press a lot during the primary. They practically had to demand he answer questions about Rezko. He never talked with his travelling press corps and was described repeatedly as “aloof.”
What that DID tell me is that he is a bullshitter. Transparency in government?
Baloney. He’ll block whenever possible.
Hillary, by contrast, allowed the press to participate on strategy calls even.
She was the one who truly was open. It cost her some bad publicity. But it gained our trust in the end.
But then, *sigh*, she was the real deal. He’s just another phony politician, except he happens to be tan.
Add Baptismal Certificate to that list.
If Barky is a Christian, he should be able to produce a Baptismal Certificate.
Particullarly, since he would have had to have been baptised as an adult, as his athestic, Communist, sexually promiscuious teen mother, obviously, never stepped into a church.
But the Bastard has never claimed that Rev. Wright baptised him, only his daughters. So, if Rev. Goddamn America didn’t baptise him, who did?
When the questions arise about Pink-o’s religion, I’ve wondered why does he produce his baptismal certificate.
Barack Obama is a Fraud
I just read a comment above that has me scratching my noggin..
Some TOOL with the tag Justice just asked “US” to drop the censorship! WTF!
Funny, their insults aren’t working so now we are being accused of “Censorship”. I do believe he meant to post that over at those “OTHER” blogs. Censorship is the last thing we do here!
Yeah and wahwahwah the big meanies are comparing our messiah to Hitler. Yet, they go around comparing Bush to Hitler?
Too funny.
Do as I say, not as I do. - Bot
Read a few of your posts Bella. You’re quite unwell aren’t you.
Exactly,this blog is one of a few on the internet that DOES NOT CENSOR posts, unlike so many others that will censor ANYTHING that is not favorable to Obama. The Obamabots can’t in good conscience make such a claim about censorship here , after all we do see their posts, so whom is kidding whom, lol.
As for posts that use very vile, vulgar or physically threatening words/expressions, be that from pro or con , I can understand those types to be deleted, that’s just common sense.
Personally myself I enjoy seeing the Obamabots flock here, it gives the rest of us a chance to make reasoned counter posts that leaves the Obamabots running for the hills in shame, lol.
Just out of curiosity what do you have against Obama?
He has big ears!
Clearly unelectable.
I dont like when people masquerade as Democrats and take the nomination thru the use of GOP tactics but that is just me…
issues baby
honor and issues all the way
PUMA
And the irony of ironies is that the GOP although they didnt want McCain let the VOTERS DECIDE and he is their nominee
not so much for the DNC huh?
SELECTED NOT ELECTED
PUMA
Today in the Chicago SunTimes……
Rezko to judge: ‘I did nothing wrong with Obama’
June 12, 2008 Recommend
BY NATASHA KORECKI Staff Reporter
In a letter to U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve just made public, Tony Rezko pleas to be let out of prison during his trial so he can see his family. He also discusses his case, saying he was pressured to give up the goods on Gov. Blagojevich and Sen. Barack Obama, but that he had nothing bad to say about them.
“I have never been party to any wrongdoing that involved the governor or the senator. I will never fabricate lies about anyone else for selfish purposes. I will take what comes my way but I will not hurt innocent people. I am not Levine, Loren, Mahru or Winter. I am simply an honest, humble immigrant who believes in the American dream,” Rezko wrote as he was kept in solitary confinement in a downtown lockup earlier this year. He was speaking of numerous people who testified at his trial or talked to prosecutors.
Tony Rezko arrives at the Dirksen Federal Building for the reading of the verdict in his corruption trial.
(Tom Cruze/Sun-Times)
RELATED PDF
Tony Rezko’s letter to judge
Sources say that the feds have not approached Obama to question him regarding Rezko. Rezko was a longtime Obama supporter in Obama’s early, formative years as a politician. In Rezko’s criminal case, money from a kickback scheme ended up in Obama’s campaign fund, though there was never an allegation Obama knew about it. Obama later gave that money to charity.
The letter was a plea to St. Eve to allow him to see his family again as his trial continued. Rezko said he was stripped from his home unfairly Jan. 28 — when he was arrested on a bond violation.
“I did not die but in some ways I feel like I died without having a chance to say goodbye.”
Read more from our Eye on Rezko blog
I remember reading his financial deposition to the judge, where he stated “I am an American citizen, I never did anything wrong, I cannot believe I am on trial for being a good citizen.”
Funniest thing I have ever read.
More a message to Obama, and his twin brother, Blago?
Rezko is simply a walking piece of cat feces.
Gave up the goods on the governor and senator (hmm)…honest and humble immigrant - YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!
Lets see what Rezko has to say when it sinks in that he may not ever see the light of day, except when they remove him from prison in a wooden box.
BTW, does the “american dream” include a multi-conviction for “doing nothing wrong”, lol.
He’s positioning himself for a presidential pardon.
Good luck with that Tony!
Maybe Rezko believes if he doesn’t do a plea bargain now, he will get a much better deal after November if BO wins. Republican Patrick Fitzgerald will be removed as prosecutor and replaced by a friendly Democrat. Rezko will get a slap on the wrist and the whole investigation will just go away. In my humble opinion, I think this is part of the reason so many people are so determined to force BO on us.
Maybe he is trying to get the word out he wont sing to save his axx…..
think I saw that on an episode of Crime Story…
Dennis Farina was great in that wasnt he
sigh and now we have it going national the Chicago Combine
WTH is the party thinking???
I am of the wait and see crowd, but the April reference is very interesting!!! I also agree that Larry should never say outright that something like this exists but should indicate that he believes it might exist, etc..
I think McCain is going to win even without it! Obama got a bump from being presumptive nom, but maybe not enough to last until Nov — I think this is his highest rating and McCains lowest. I dont really want either one of them — just Hillary — or even I would be happy with someone else better than those two if not Hillary!
So let’s see that tape! No Spin Required - Just hard facts!
I won’t bother going to O’s propaganda site (I see that as they seek to dispel rumors about BO, they lie about what Larry actually said on this site about the Michelle tape; has there ever been a more complete and coordinated campaign to hoodwink the American people?), but if anyone bothers going there, I wonder how they will dispel the FACT, not rumor, that Obama won’t release his birth certificate, academic and medical records, or any records that other candidates for POTUS routinely provide. What is he hiding? How can we elect a POTUS when we know nothing about his past, except what he tells us in his memoirs? Could it be that the missing papers provide information that is at odds with his selective, romanticized, perhaps even partially fictionalized retelling of his past?
Have you seen McCain’s birth certificate?
The state department has all this records (Remember the leak in April). It is a CONSTITUTIONAL matter, no one will be allowed to contest for the presidency (or even Senate) without being cleared of this. If you dont trust the state department, justice department, and law enforcement, electoral commission to ensure a candidate is legitimate the problem is worse than O.
You really are all sick. Why not stick to the issues. Nothing wrong in disagreement based on issues. Its really not about the candidate. Maybe personal counseling will resolve some issues.
You were shamed that a tape doesnt exist (he called the bluff) and you shameless move on to the birth certificate.
Funny how they pin it all on Larry.
A tactical mistake, I think.
I do agree with you on that story. It’s been making me nuts to see people flip over the idea that he’s not American. LOL*
Stuff and nonsense..and we’ve been trolled BADLY on it.
However, there are some good questions regarding his documents.
State senate records……never produced. Come on. He demanded Hillary’s dayplanner while saying he must have tossed all his papers? Unfair. Dirty tricks. Bad karma coming his way.
Ditto for his taxes. Did he ever spit the last one out?
AnninCA,
I’d agree with you except, Obama has no one but himself to blame on this. If he had simply produced it, there’d be no buzz on it. But all of this refusing and trying to control plus all of the these bizarre coincidences are among the reasons I can’t vote for him.
When are he and the Democratic Party going to accept this and quit sidestepping these questions?
They want Party Unity, then answer some freaking questions and stop the bullshit!
Otherwise go to hell and
WIN WITHOUT ME!
gawd! a self righteous troll! save me! under the buss troll!
J. Richter, So you’ve learned to copy and paste in your Microsoft Word class? Have you gotten to the concept of GIGO, garbage in garbage out? Please try to attend your English class more regularly.
And how about this…Also in the Chicago SunTimes
Not all Democrats falling for Obama
June 12, 2008 Recommend
BY ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON—- Nothing personal, Sen. Obama, but our re-election comes first.
Barack Obama, for all his attention and primary successes, does not go over so well in a fair number of Democratic lawmakers’ home districts. So it seems there is little chance that some will endorse him for president.
Some are counting on Republican votes in their re-election bids. Some are newly minted and in rematches with 2006 opponents. Some may be wary of how their constituents will react to a black presidential candidate. Some, too, have made it a practice of distancing themselves from the national party, fearing the inevitable campaign ad that has their face morphing into Howard Dean, the party chairman, and Obama.
Rep. Dan Boren, the only congressional Democrat in Oklahoma, calls Obama ”the most liberal senator” in Congress and says he has no plans to make a public endorsement.
”We’re much more conservative” in eastern Oklahoma, Boren said. ”I’ve got to reflect my district.”
Georgia Rep. Jim Marshall, a Democrat and Vietnam veteran who won his last election by about 1,800 votes, said he admires both Obama and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., but feels no obligation to state a preference.
”If it turns out one of them is an ax murderer or something like that I’ll make a choice,” he joked. Otherwise, ”I don’t think I need to get involved.”
For most of these fence-sitters — at least 14 as of Wednesday — it boils down to political necessity: They are vulnerable Democrats in conservative-leaning districts who take pains to avoid aligning closely with the national party.
McCain has his own issues in his party. Many conservatives opposed the four-term senator, who has worked with Democrats and strayed from GOP orthodoxy on some issues, before he sealed the GOP nomination in February. Many still express reservations about him as the party leader.
Because McCain secured the party nomination much earlier in the campaign season, Republicans have not been pressed about their endorsements like Democrats have. But only a handful have publicly withheld their support for him. That includes Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, who long has bucked the party hierarchy, and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who is running his own presidential campaign.
On the Democratic side, Boren said he, like most of the undecideds, will go along with nominating Obama at the Democratic convention in Denver in August.
Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki challenged Boren over his assessment of Obama and said the candidate had worked with Republicans in the Illinois Legislature and in Senate.
Obama, seeking to become the first black president, is hardly the first Democratic candidate to face such resistance. Over the years, moderates and conservatives have avoided associating with nominees going back to George McGovern in 1972 and including John Kerry in 2004. Public endorsements were not an issue in 2004 since Kerry had wrapped up the nomination early.
”They are all scared to death about getting beat by a Republican,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., one of Obama’s most prominent supporters. ”I don’t think that if the good Lord himself had been nominated as a Democrat that some of those folks would have endorsed him. They are afraid of looking too much like a Democrat because of the kind of districts they’re from.”
As in the past, many uncommitted Democrats are from the South, which has favored Republicans in recent elections.
Although Obama swept the region in the Democratic primaries with near-universal support from black voters, he often fared poorly among working-class whites. As a result, he is seen as an asset in some districts but a question mark at best in others.
Rep. John Barrow, for example, represents a coastal Georgia district where blacks make up more than 40 percent of registered voters, mainly in urban areas around Savannah and Augusta. Not surprisingly, Barrow — who won his last election by fewer than 900 votes — endorsed Obama in February.
But Marshall, the Democratic incumbent in a neighboring district in rural central Georgia, has stayed quiet.
Marshall’s district is less than one-third black, and he needs the support of white Republicans to win, including votes from the military community around Robins Air Force Base. He faces a fresh challenge this year from a retired Air Force general.
Republican campaign strategists already have shown they want to link Democratic candidates with Obama and other national figures, such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor.
In special elections last month in Mississippi and Louisiana, Democratic candidates Travis Childers and Don Cazayoux faced television ads attempting to make those connections.
But Childers and Cazayoux won surprise victories, raising questions about the strategy’s effectiveness.
Still, Childers is staying out of the presidential race, as is his fellow Mississippi Democrat Gene Taylor. Cazayoux recently announced he is backing Obama.
Obama’s campaign has made some progress in converting the holdouts. Freshman Rep. Nancy Boyda of Kansas, who had insisted she would not budge from the undecided column, budged on Wednesday and endorsed Obama.
Boyda ”has been impressed with Senator Obama’s campaign because they’re willing to take their discussion to all 50 states, rather than just the swing states,” spokeswoman Liz Montano said.
Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, a Democratic House leader who helped orchestrate the party’s strategy for winning control of Congress in 2006, argues against reading too much into the holdouts. He said most of them always stay out of national politics and that the party is generally unified around Obama.
”They’re just going to stick to their knitting,” he said. ”It’s not that they’re anti-Obama.”
I read this one, too. That’s what my point was yesterday. Forget worrying about mad women. A percentage of us will cool off and vote for him. He’s lost another solid percentage no matter what he tries to do by past actions with the DNC and MI. You can’t steal 4 delegates and expect us to vote for you. He took the risk. He pays the price.
BUT who he has bigger trouble with are moderate-to-conservative Dems, regardless of gender, attitude toward the primary, even race.
He’s racing to the center as fast as possible to win over those voters, but at least as far as I can see, that’s not a workable strategy. He has an established record now via the primaries as a complete and utter elitist.
These voters are commonsense people, and they don’t buy into political rhetoric. They are polite. But they look at record. They have his number.
He’s just another Democratic candidate who has no real sense of their states or respect for that matter. It won’t do them any good to vote for him.
They’ll, as in the past, vote Republican.
We had a shot. Hillary was the shot at that bloc.
The Dem Leaders blew it. He can waste a lot of money trying to woo them, but it’s going to be money down the rat hole.
Moderate-to-Conservative Democrats do not vote for people who choose Wright, the hater, as his “spiritual mentor.” That just ain’t gonna fly.
Yes, and he barely won Missouri—about 10,000 votes in inner cities.
I think McCaskill will realize that her OWN state is much more moderate/conservative than she admits.
She’ll be surprised the next time she runs for re-election.
I have family in Missouri. It’s not a latte-liberal California, by any means.
McCain will carry Missouri in November, and McCaskill will suffer for it.
Mary: You are absolutely right about Missouri. I live in St. Louis County and BO was trailing HRC until the City of St. Louis votes came in. There is a very heavy black population and the BO campaign made sure that those people got to the polls.
As for Claire McCasill, what makes me angry is that when she rant for Senator (and governor when she split the Democratic Party and allowed Matt Blunt to win), is that she appealed to women voters to vote for her BECAUSE she was a woman. Suddenly that all goes out the window because her kids thought BO was cool and encouraged her to come out for him which she did around the time of the Nevada Primary.
I hope she goes down in flames when she is up for re-election. As you may know her margin of victory over Jim Talent was very slim. BO will take St. Louis City and County, K.C. and possibly the university centers but he will not win Mo. I plan on helping John McCain. In fact I’ve almost decided to vote a straight republican ticket (never voted republican in my 40 years)
McCaskill committed political suicide with her over-the-top endorsement and cozy relationship with Obama.
She’s going to pay for what is obviously Hillary-hatred and gushing feline adoration of Obama.
She’s going to learn the lesson all Heathers and Mean Girls learn:
“Real life sucks losers dry. If you want to fuck with the eagles, you better learn to fly.” (from the film Heathers)
If women want to soar and fly, they better learn to stick to gether.
She’s sure talking sweet now, isn’t she? LOL* I note the polls showing McCain slightly ahead. And that is after Obama’s big bump?
Whoa*….he’s in trouble there. And, therefore, so is she.
Well, she may pick up the AA voter bloc there. Did she before? I don’t really know.
I just heard her “womanly advice” to not ruffle our feathers more by suggesting we’re not really upset.
Oh…..so she CAN be sensible, eh?
I’d say I would like to see her delisted from Emily’s List, but it seems we’ve all delisted Emily’s List, so it doesn’t much matter.
MO is the purplest of states; remember when it went for Bush by only one percent last time. As Kansas City grows MO may start voting Democratic from the increased urban vote, but barely. There’s definitely not enough of a margin yet for McCaskill to be politically safe in her endorsement of Obama in a state where the rural regions are quite conservative.
I do think that when the female governors who had specifically run as part of an effort to get more women into governorships as a springboard to the Presidency endorsed Obama, they should have at least acknowleged to their female base that their endorsement was a departure from their stated commitment.
For this reason I will not give Gregoire any money. She’s pandering to what she perceives to be her base, but she’s lost moderate female votes, and I bet she’ll lose in November.
exactly, the joshua movement and that pathetic religeous spectacle they have planned for the convention leaves me saying “how stupid can you be”. they so want to be the new republicans. and they honestly think the former dem base will vote for them? yeah, right, the dnc can’t even pay for the convention.
Censorship is the last thing we do here!
Im not sure about that- I was posting on here and got into a polite disagreement with a poster because I was saying some of the criticisms of Obama were over-the-top. He called me a troll and all my posts were instantly deleted and I couldnt post again. It’s a pity because I really wanted to get a debate going and considering the abusive language I was reading elsewhere on the site, I was suprised I could be blocked for what appeared solely to be disagreeing with someone else. It was odd.
Must have been something worse. I wish we’d get rid of all the Obama supporters who talk so ugly here, calling us racists, etc.
It’s offensive stuff.
Are you certain that you were being blocked? I’m as anti-Obama as anyone and I’ve had difficulty posting at times. Many completely harmless posts have failed to appear.
Sometimes comments get caught in the spam filter. Lately, though, with all the server changing and glitches, a lot more posts are disappearing, or never go through.
We here have been under attack for a long time not only by hackers to the site, but by trolls in many guises. We are a favorite hit spot for the hoards of Obama babies. Differing opinions are welcome, but not abusive language… it gets our panties in a knot. True trolls cannot stay civil for long. If your discussion got heated, you could very well have been flagged as a troll. Apparently, now your posts are going through, and you’re still posting so what exactly is the problem?
Some of your team mates thought that it might be fun to hack the website so don’t come and complain here … our sympathy has been rather tapped out. Personally? My hip boots have long since spilled over the top with BO stinky cut and pasted uh uh uh talking points. Save it for someone who gives a good damn, ‘mkay? Isn’t it enough that I’ve left the Democratic party to the Great Pretender and am an “unaffiliated?” Go tackle McCain. I’m sure you’d be better served else where. Or maybe not. You’re not very effective here. Just sayin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXnUEW_OXw
” He called me a troll and all my posts were instantly deleted and I couldnt post again.”
So when I see your post NOW it must be a mirage right, lol. You are not really posting here, I’m just seeing things, get real, lol.
probably a new name! watch the posts, they’ll probably start off oh so polite and then the real colors will show. never fails!
So? Didn’t you get the message?
Guess not. So you come back and passive-aggressively whine about it.
Not good at taking hints are we now…
Sorry- forgot to add this happened yesterday.
Oh….lol*….the server crashed yesterday and all posts were lost. None of us could get in.
(See, it’s not all about you! LOL)
Rarely do I NOT have trouble posting here!
If you’ve spent 10 or more years on the net you are quite used to usually having trouble.
Only lately has the net improved to a point where you can sit on a wire for more than 10 minutes w/out a disconnect, etc.
All Hail Cable! lol
Man, all the crap they were pumping out about Hillary.
Race baiting and garbage galore.
What a wonderful place for intelligent discourse you have here Larry. You should be proud.
Seriously, you folks need to take a deep breath and realize that you are spinning conspiracy theories that are so completely ridiculous that I question your intelligence and motivation.
I don’t like some of the conspiracy theory stuff, either.
But you know what? I can skip over those conversations.
There’s so much going on on this site, that there’s no reason to get sucked into anything you don’t wish to entertain. Some people are BIG on conspiracy stuff. Lordy, when Hillary was running, you could count on HuffPo running some idiotic piece daily implying that Bill and Hillary were up to some nefarious scheme. Never panned out with any facts, mind you. But it kept the Obamabots entertained.
How do you think crazy world leaders think, remember the meeting Dick Cheney was having when he shot Harry?
They were discussing taking over the middle east.
It’s not conspiracy, it’s kook.
You want sane, vote should have voted for Clinton.
Too late!
Did you read the excerpt from McCain’s speech Larry posted yesterday?
He was essentially saying the US had the right to unilaterally invade any country it saw as a threat.
What do you think it means, it’s just rhetoric?
And Obama doesn’t take bribes, “he didnt mean it, they ALL take bribes, we can count on Obama to create sane policy.”
Right.
What you see is what you get.
“you should have voted for Clinton.”
I don’t know. I’ll have to read it for myself. One thing I’ve learned is to go to the actual source and read for myself or hear it for myself.
People are so reactive today.
Y waste your time then? Move on Lemming.
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well, I hope the servers are up to par…
Larry thank you again for this site!!!
As frequent posters here know, I have a real problem with Trinity Church for their embrace of Black Liberation Marxist Theology. I cannot support someone who embraces a theology based on marxism. The Catholic church has fought this liberation theology for over 40 years which started in south america. When will he address the “father” of Black Liberation Marxist Theology - Cone?
When you sit in the pews (or sleep as he say) of a church that spews hatred for whites and has as the basis of its theology marxist values, I am sorry you must have embraced it yourself. Take away all the craziness of Rev. Wright and get to the basics of the theology and Obama/Marxist is a marxist.
CNN has now for me (although they have tried to appear as they are not) gone completely in the tank for Obama/Marxist. Yesterday, they showed a clip of McCain during an interview talking about staying in Iraq and after he said something about staying they cut off the clip - not show the rest of the remark. They made it appear as tho he said something he did not. And 15 minutes later Obama/Marxist gets on television distorting McCains statement.
I will never stop showing this person for the fraud he is and his Alinsky organizing tactics that was used to “thug” his way into the caucuses.
In the beginning I was only sad because I would be voting republican for the first time but now I feel we must fight to save America from this Marxist fool.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
Well, I listened to Jodie’s comments (Obama’s bundler who supposedly said that we deserved to be bombed…) and it was the same foolish smear tactic. I listened to her full statements.
Her words were twisted by the conservative radio host. Then someone picked up on HIS interpretation and printed it. Then ….. and so it goes.
She actually was quite cogent.
actually she is a freaking nutcase. so cut the bullsxxx!
Ask Bill Maher about this kind of thing.
He lost his Network program for this kind of nuanced articulation.
We are a polarized country.
The media in their heavy-handed manipulation over the years has created this polarization.
Average middle-of-the-road Americans don’t want to hear such talk. They are plain-talking folks.
And the media is going to hype McCain’s bellicose rhetoric as well as manipulate it.
Anybody with common sense knows that our economy is going to dictate a lot of our miliatry decisions from here on. You can’t keep a war going indefinitely on credit. And Obama’s already backpeddaled on his war stance.
All the Iraq War did was distort the Primary Campaign and keep us from having a real dialogue on the issues. And the media played a huge role in this.
So maybe most of us are none too pleased with conspiracy issues dominating the discourse. But how do explain some of this outlandish stuff with Obama?
There is no such thing as straight talk anymore, from anyone.
So conspiracy theory discussions have fertile ground on which to operate.
but did someone falsely make it look like she flew to Iraq and gave wads of cash to insurgents who bought weapons to use against our troops. NO she did that….
and it wasnt photoshop that put her arm in arm with Chavez….
she flew to Iraq and gave wads of cash to insurgents who bought weapons to use against our troops
Is that not an act of sedition?
Yesterday Larry’s site was down due to server problems…many of our “Comments” were lost. If you come here regularly then you have witnessed the abusive nature of some Trolls when we are discussing a perticular topic. Now to be fair, not everyone that Supports Oblama is a Troll, just misguided.
But if you have spent ANY time here you know why many of us are testy!
Yesterday Larry’s site was down due to server problems…many of our “Comments” were lost. If you come here regularly then you have witnessed the abusive nature of some Trolls when we are discussing a particular topic. Now to be fair, not everyone that Supports Oblama is a Troll, just misguided.
But if you have spent ANY time here you know why many of us are testy!
sorry for the double post. havn’t had my coffee yet..lol
Oh….lol*….the server crashed yesterday and all posts were lost. None of us could get in.
(See, it’s not all about you! LOL)
Apologies- my bad. This didnt cross my mind at all. I just assumed some grumpy moderator had taken a dislike to me and blocked me!
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
Im finding this line of argument increasingly more amusing. Ealier on it was just black liberation theology now its black liberation MARXIST theology. In a few hours it will be something like ‘black islamic fundamentalist racist drug-influenced mafia-inspired liberation theology.’ I await further developments eagerly.
You may be thinking about some other person because as long as I have posted here it has always been the same - the truth. I suggest you do some research into liberation theology which is where the theology of Trinity church comes from and what Obama/Marxist embraces.
JUST SAY NOT TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
Not me. I’m not into the marxist criticism stuff.
I have plenty of reasons to dislike Obama without extrapolating to the nth degree.
go do your homework. you claim not to be biased blah, blah, going to the “real source”. then go read up on it. not just one article but really get into it. read a book by cone like i did. DO YOUR RESEARCH. and then come back on here.
You will not look at one of the prime tenants of what BO “heard” but did not see, for twenty years?
That is not “extrapolating to the nth degree.”, that is NOT looking at the facts.
No mental rendition is required.
M, your lack of knowledge is showing. Black Liberation
theology is based on Liberation Theology, which is soundly based in Marxism. Just google black liberation theology. Apparently you just assume that everycomment that you don’t agree with is is bullshit. This one isn’t. It’s the Marxism that the Catholic Church finds so insidious. That’s one reason why so many of us find it impossible to trust Obama.
” In a few hours it will be something like ‘black islamic fundamentalist racist drug-influenced mafia-inspired liberation theology.’ I await further developments eagerly.”
That sounds about right to me, lol.
islamic fundamentalist - (Hamas) check
racist - (Michelle, Wright, Trinity)check
drug-influenced - (Cocaine) check
mafia-inspired - (Chicago)check
liberation theology -(most liberal senator)check
Welcome to the club, you didn’t even have to wait a few hours,lol.
no these concepts cross over quite often in its use in the world, see Mussolini for fascist capitalism, public pays losses, private corps take profits (hey sounds like the NYFed and Bear Sterns No?!), El Salvador, the nuns who were killed there, the Catholic Church has been fighting this for over 40 years now, it is heresy
I dont know why Cardinal George is not doing anything about Pflegler but I am starting to really wonder how dirty things are in Chicago it seems to be everywhere there…..so if religion was the opiate of the masses, sound familiar, then the Trinity Sabina has it down pat dont they
Alinsky meets Lenin?
Marx?
I mean why would that seem odd to you? Political themes adapt evolve, co-opt, radicalize, moderate, flow and flux..
its not new its merging…….
Poor, poor ‘Bot! Questions our Intellect because we refuse to bend to the will of Obama and his ‘Bots! sorry. I wear my tin helmet. your thought waves cannot penetrate…cannot penetrate…cannot penetrate..tape will self destruct in 5 seconds.4.3.2
(snicker) Dragon burp?
Twilight Zone or Outer Limits?
Its hard to keep track of potential smears - otherwise known as the truth in our lexicon.
I prefer the Zone
I’ve long since gone past my LIMIT!!
hehe!
I’m walking the KT boundary barefoot
(it’s chalky don’t cha know?)
starting to feel like Tales from the Darkside also..
creeeeepy
Sources say that the feds have not approached Obama to question him regarding Rezko. Rezko was a longtime Obama supporter in Obama’s early, formative years as a politician. In Rezko’s criminal case, money from a kickback scheme ended up in Obama’s campaign fund, though there was never an allegation Obama knew about it. Obama later gave that money to charity.
The letter was a plea to St. Eve to allow him to see his family again as his trial continued. Rezko said he was stripped from his home unfairly Jan. 28 — when he was arrested on a bond violation.
“I did not die but in some ways I feel like I died without having a chance to say goodbye.”
ROTFLMAO.
Nice.
“He said through tightly clenched anal muscles.”
Well, you are speaking out your ass, right?
oh poor baby!! he feels lost and alone!
embexxling money laundering crook!!
do the time!
roflmao. Yep, that’s what happens when you LIE! The guilty screw up their tales when they are putting too many false claims out there.
And after he answers these few, if he really decides to start ANSWERING, instead of spinning, while he YELLS as he does. I can’t even stand to hear him, because in his mission to not SAY ANYTHING, HE YELLS TO SOUND AUTHORITARIAN, AND AVOID MORE QUESTIONS. Just like most bullies do when they have no answers to give. But maybe he should try to state, with certainty, if he feels this is just a lie, he should specifically state that and put this “smear” to rest.
However, you do know smear does not mean the story isn’t true, it just means it is the action used to “stain or sully” . Kind of like the “Macaca” smear. It didn’t meant it wasn’t real or happened, but it did take out George Allen from his Senate seat and bring to a hault HIS ambititions to be Prez.
Obama, if this is true and it comes out when you are the official nominee, your name will be mud through all your big donors for wasting their money……and the Democrats for losing what should have been the Democrats year to win the White House.
Has anyone here seen McCain’s birth certificate?
The state department has all this records (Remember the leak in April). It is a CONSTITUTIONAL matter, no one will be allowed to contest for the presidency (or even Senate) without being cleared of this.
Some here are really sick. Why not stick to the issues? Nothing wrong in disagreement based on issues. For this group, its really not about the candidate is it? Maybe personal counseling will resolve some issues.
You were shamed that a tape doesnt exist (he called the bluff) and Larry LIED that it did when he never saw it and you shameless move on to the birth certificate.
You need to come up with better shit than that.
I would never be voting McCain is the democratic nominee was not Obama/Marxist. But, don’t you think the department of defense has McCain’s birth certificate.
I guess you Obama/Marxist idiots got your talking points for the day. We have heard them all.
You will not steal the party without a fight.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
So let me get this straight:
Children born to parents who are serving in the military abroad should automatically be penalized for not having been born in the US while one or two parents were serving their country
Get real!!!
Obama’s parents were not in the military. His father was a foreigner here on a student visa.
These are legitimate questions for some people and Obama is making it worse by not simply producing his birth certificate.
I will never support a candidate who is touchy about EVERYTHING!
He needs to keep secrets: then stay a private citizen!!!
Works for me!
More copy and paste. You’ve posted this crap twice before already. Don’t you have ONE original thought of your own? Or would original thinking disqualify you from membership in the Obamazoid club?
didnt Uhhbama and Clare pass legislation supposedly to help McCain a canal baby run, even though he was already legal to run??
maybe this was preemptive strike to allow Barry to run, eh?
LOL!!!
I have another question for Barry.
4. Why did you decide not to join the military?
I would think considering how military service runs in your family — your father’s flag draped coffin and your grandfather helping the Soviet Red Army liberate Auschwitz — you would have been eager to carry on the family tradition.
I am glad we cam amuse you. that’s how it starts. If you did any real analysis of Black Liberation theology, IT IS founded on Marxist teachings! That was one of the basic principals of the Black Panthers. Marxism!
Now I know that was a long time ago, but in Chicago, it still lives. There is a thriving socialist community in BuckTown and alot of the “Older” preachers in the Black areas of Chicago, cut their teeth on this stuff..Wright being one of the. Not all subscribe to it, but at Trinity it is alive and kicking!
plus many of the african leaders and revolutionaries have a background in communist training. mubage in ziambabwe comes to mind. plus obama’s “cousin” in kenya. and how can we forget the marxist poet in hawaii who was one of obama’s mentors.
Let’s just all admit it - LARRY LIED. There is no tape. There was one fo his pastor and its out (2 minutes out of 196000 minutes of total preaching available on tape). Now let’s look for some other really legitimate reason to be against this guy. He might not be the best candidates but we will establish this fairly and based on truths.
Didn’t read the article, did you skippy? Her friends thought it was true. And we should disbelieve people who KNOW her and LIKE her?
Larry hasn’t lied about anything. He never said he had the tape. he said he has talked to people who know other people who have seen the tape. He said he was told the GOP has the tape and they are saving it for their October surprise to bury THE LIAR. he said he was trying to get his hands on it, but has been unable to.
How did Larry lie?
No, actually, this Time story only confirms that what Larry actually said, as opposed to what you are claiming he said, is true.
In fact, all Larry said was that he heard a story from two independent people that there was a tape of Michelle ranting about “whitey”. He went further to say that while those two people hadn’t seen the tape, they had spoken to people who had.
Now the details here of what Larry claimed — that there were two independent people, that they claimed that they knew people who had seen the tape — certainly aren’t, per se, confirmed. But the overall claim that there are people asserting that the tape exists most certainly IS confirmed in the Time story. Larry is NOT making that up — the Obama camp clearly knew about the rumor before Larry even brought up the subject. This strongly suggests that when Larry reports that people have told him about the rumor, that he is speaking truthfully. He most certainly is not the real origin of the rumor, and is at most simply passing it along.
Now I have zero idea how reliable Larry’s sources might be. How could I? I have even less of an idea of how reliable their supposed sources — who claim that they have seen the tape — might be. It seems perfectly plausible to me — indeed rather probable — that they might be simply making this up to spread a rumor, as political operatives have done in the past. So overall, I put the likelihood that the tape exists as being still quite low.
But so far as Larry’s own account of this goes, I see only confirmation that he’s reporting with some accuracy on the existence of a rumor he heard.
Let me think…The objectionable statements from Reverend Wright were quite a bit longer than two minutes. The “God Damn America” sermon, the “Ridin’ Dirty” sermon, the very recent rant at the National Press Club…
I think the National Press Club is where Wright put forth his views on educating black children in a different way from white children since black children think on a different side of the brain. If a white scientist came up with a such a blatantly racist theory he/she would be laughed out of the scientific community. Definitely way more than two minutes.
Oh why can’t they the Musical notes alone and stick with “other notes”?
Here’s a great post from Hillbuzz - very heartfelt.
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/there-is-little-bit-of-hillary-clinton.html.
Cross post it elsewhere.
Your link says it doesn’t exist.
You all are missing the MAJOR point here, even if there is no tape!
From the article:
When the Obama campaign got wind of the rumor in April, Michelle’s close friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett asked Michelle if there could be anything to it; the candidate’s wife dismissed it out of hand. But by mid-May, it was picking up steam on the Internet, and Michelle’s advisers decided it was time to have a serious talk with her about it. On a campaign swing through Oregon, Michelle’s chief of staff Melissa Winter grilled her on the particulars of the various versions. Had she ever spoken at Trinity Church? Could she ever recall having uttering that racial epithet? No, no, Michelle answered again and again. Additionally, she said, “whitey” is simply not a word that African Americans of her generation tend to use — or that she herself would ever say. Michelle was shocked and frustrated when her aides approached her the second time about the alleged incident.
EVEN MICHELLE’S FREIND AND ADVISORS THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME TRUTH TO THE STORY! They think she is capable of going on a racist tirade! They don’t even have that much faith in here since they asked about it!
You raise an interesting point.
It’s certainly not a good sign about the campaign’s trust in Michelle that the felt the need to grill her even after she had denied it once.
But I am more struck by how Obama himself handled the rumor after he was explicitly asked about it by a reporter. If you look carefully at his response, he never explicitly called the rumor a lie. It was sufficiently obvious that he had not done so that the reporter asked him again to be more explicit in his answer — which Obama refused to do, saying that he had said what he was going to say.
Now at first I had thought that his oddly inexplicit response could be explained because he was mostly speaking off the cuff, and his remarks were just not as precise as they could be.
But now I don’t see how that could be, given the obvious attention his campaign had paid to that particular rumor. I don’t see how his response is anything other than being very deliberate, and carefully parsed. And the nature of the response really does suggest that Obama did not want to be on record explicitly calling the rumor a lie — which would only add to the damage that the tape might itself engender.
So what does one conclude from this? Not at all that the tape exists, but rather that, despite Michelle’s explicit denials to the campaign, and, presumably, her husband, the campaign does not fully trust those denials. I don’t know how else to make sense of Obama’s peculiar, guarded response.
All of which would suggest that Michelle does not seem to impress Obama’s campaign as a very reliable person.
The interesting issue is whether Obama himself trusts her denials, given that he went along with the carefully parsed response.
Oh, and I don’t care if they denied the tape. It could still turn up. Bill Clinton told everyone he never had sex with Monica and lied under oath about it. And Nixon said, I am not a crook! I wonder if Obama and Michelle will have their moment.
Actually he didn’t have intercourse, which was the judge’s definition of sex.
If he committed prejury he would have been found guilty, he wasn’t.
Oh, the man who was Woodward’s main source on Nixon bugged Obama’s friends in the Weather Underground including his day one supporter Mr.Ayers, the American bomber.
Spectacular rebuttal Larry! Somehow I don’t think we will be receiving any response anytime soon.
How do you figure Larry lied? He NEVER claimed to have seen or heard the Tape himself. He never claimed to produce the tape. He never said he had the tape. Only that some of his sources had either heard it or know of someone who did,
I find it curious that during the course of the day, we get a group that wanders in here and asks about the tape. never wanting to engage in civil conversation, just a hit and run Troll drive by.
If this tape does not exist, why the talking points on what “MICHELLE” meant to say…you know. she meant to say…Why’d he not whitey! I have heard this from a ton of ‘Bots! If it is not an issue why come here and continue to make it one?
Me..I don’t know if it exist or not. I personally have never seen nor heard it. But, I do trust in Larry Johnson! He has not been wrong in the past and I suspect he is-right on this also. The bomb will be dropped, that much I am sure of! If you have followed this primary as closely as many of us have, I do believe that Hillary knew it existed also. Who knows what she meant by an October surprise. DO YOU KNOW IF IT EXIST OR NOT? Do you know for a fact it NEVER existed? If not, calling someone you don’t know a liar is pretty lame wouldn’t you agree?
what is a whitey?
if you don’t know now, then you are too freaking dumb to have it explained, troll.
TeakWoodKite Says:
RedDragon62…come in, over?
I see ya and raise what you said…
When Mr. Johnson first “reported” this, it was already known to BO and MO and Axelrod. When the remarks from Quizling Wright came out, Hillary already new about the tape.
Look at video of the first time she commented on Wrights remarks…”If that was my church, I would have walked out…”
The Rev’s remarks where not the only thing she was talking about…she did not want this issue raised for the simple reason, she understood the false attribution that would be made.
The test run of this by BO’s camp was BO’s garb in Kenya. (”Hey Dick here…Drudge can you run something for me?” “Sure Dick on the QT?” “You bet”)
Clinton was well aware of what the odds were. The Dean dems knew this was available at least a year ago. Anybody with a memory who was present at the event, (and there more than three of them in the room), knows what was said. Clinton has contacts in Chicago as well.
At the time of 2004 it may not have been well known. The rush to get BO the Nomination is a calculation that events will overtake something said by a spouse of the nominee..”years ago”…
I would as part of my wager include the notion that “the past is prolouge.”
On his Fight the Smear website which is getting some good play at CNN he is basically saying no tape exists so he is in fact confronting the rumor head on.
-TT
DVD????
1. No tape of her at pulpit in trinity saying it
or
2. no she never said it anywhere anytime anyplace
I await number 2, until then it is a non denial denial
I am glad we cam amuse you. that’s how it starts. If you did any real analysis of Black Liberation theology, IT IS founded on Marxist teachings! That was one of the basic principals of the Black Panthers. Marxism!
Actually I am aware that the Black panthers were inspired by marxism and did tend to be marxist, but it would be nice to have solid evidence to convince us that Obama is a black panther in disguise. Do you really think if he came into office he’d try and implement marxist policies? or maybe call for blacks to seize the state or opress whites? what exactly is he going to do with this theology you claim he has?
Differing opinions are welcome, but not abusive language…
Ive only been on this site for about a week so maybe this is a new development, but ive noticed that the vast majority of abusive language comes from the anti-Obama crowd. Also witness the incredibly vitriolic and occasionally homophobic comments we saw on the article that was attacking Andrew Sullivan. Why didnt the site moderate that language if it feels very strongly about civil discourse?
M –
I don’t think he is a Black Panther in disguse. He doesn’t need to be a Black Panther to embrace the Black Liberation Marxist Theology. You really need to do some research on the theology of Trinity Church and Cone.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
no the really HILARIOUS thing about you is that you ASSUME we are here to entertain you!!!
pfft! Arrogant much? Pitiful really.
I guess you don’t really read much or follow links or do research, you just arrogantly blow your mouth off. Obama has quite a few ties to NOI, including members of NOI who are on Obama’s Senate staff, and his election staff. He had the blessing of Farrakhan for every election he’s been in. Farrakhan is a heavyweight in Obama’s Chicago. Cripes, do you read at all?
What makes you think that a Democratic Congress which has shown itself to be powerless against Bush, will protect you from a Democratic president who espouses Marxism? Bill Ayers’ education policies are unapologetically left wing and marxist, and he very well could end up in a high position in an Obama Whitehouse. And so it would begin.
Look, you’re welcome to discuss with us. But please knock off the arm-chair critic stuff about our site.
Do you have any clue as to how marginalized we were during the primary? How many of us were not even allowed to defend our candidate on sites like Huffpo? How many of us were kicked out of other Democratic sites that went so Obama that no pro-Hillary voice was allowed?
Have you any idea how many of Obama bloggers spent their entire day going to pro-Hillary sites to leave nothing but insulting, demeaning, snarky messages?
If you don’t, take a look for yourself. Most of the bloggers resorted to posting a section where they dumped all the incredibly sexist and insulting posts left for all to see.
So if you object to the one dang site on the internet that has let US speak and finally unclog….then go away.
You’re being treated more kindly than any pro-Obama blogger should even expect.
Truly.
Look, you’re welcome to discuss with us. But please knock off the arm-chair critic stuff about our site.
Do you have any clue as to how marginalized we were during the primary? How many of us were not even allowed to defend our candidate on sites like Huffpo? How many of us were kicked out of other Democratic sites that went so Obama that no pro-Hillary voice was allowed?
Have you any idea how many of Obama bloggers spent their entire day going to pro-Hillary sites to leave nothing but insulting, demeaning, snarky messages?
If you don’t, take a look for yourself. Most of the bloggers resorted to posting a section where they dumped all the incredibly sexist and insulting posts left for all to see.
So if you object to the one dang site on the internet that has let US speak and finally unclog….then go away.
You’re being treated more kindly than any pro-Obama blogger should even expect.
Truly.
lookie what we have! a troll trying to play nice. confront the troll and continue to do so. true colors will show very soon.
and what we notice from the obama crowd is meaness, lies, and will do anything to anyone to win.
so pack it in m. i’ve got your number. go do your own homework. these carefully worded oh so nice questions are just a front for a troll sent with a more carefully honed con than the outright get in your face trolls.
Do you really think if he came into office he’d try and implement marxist policies?
He already listed many of these policies at his site - including forms of redistribution of wealth, raising capital gains taxes very high, raising taxes on all Americans in the form of payroll Social Security taxes, etc
-If doubt - listen to his wife and her calling for a redistribution of the “pie”
-Wright/Pfleger’s belief that white people have to give up their 401K’s and trust funds even if they’ve never owned slaves or harmed anyone, let alone Blacks.
- and Obama has never stated his stance on Slave Reparations - and even tries hard to avoid Black leaders meetings, ex. New Orleans
- This is clearly what many of his supporters believe, at best, you can only hope that he only pays it lip-service and doesn’t believe it neither (just political expediency) as he hasn’t done anything for Blacks, even those in his district other than give them Rezko-type housing. He didn’t even donate a cent to Katrina and only 1% of his income to Trinity Church.
or maybe call for blacks to seize the state or opress whites?
Have you not heard the threats of Recreate68? Or the bullying and viciousness at the caucuses or anywhere where anyone has a Hillary sign up? Or threatening of mass riots in the streets if Obama doesn’t win? Obama himself propagates this with his staff threatening to summon a 100,000 army of Obamabots with one click of the mouse in any city. Never heard of Chicago thugs/mafia? Nation of Islam? Wright’s church calling Blacks to not kill each other, as that is the “wrong enemy” and implying that whites were the enemy that… I can’t even finish that line - the hatred and stupidity is overwhelming. And numerous other examples that I just don’t want to go into…(I didn’t even need to mention Obama’s support for his machete-genocide wheeling Odinga Kenyan tribe member).
what exactly is he going to do with this theology you claim he has?
See the above that are all doctrines from his church, his 20-year friendships/alliances/business partners. And read his racialist book that eerily resembles Mein Kampf. Oh - did I mention the Church also harbors anti-Jewish sentiments. Too eerily similar - just different times but same tactics, strategies, and beliefs.
Try this. It’s the second article, just scroll down:
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/
“There is a little bit of Hillary Clinton in all of us now”.
That is the best article I’ve read since she announced her concession.
Thank you so much, and he is SOOOOOOOOOO right.
I wish we could get that posted here. It might really start us focusing on the real issues instead of crap like birth certificates.
He is so right, too. I said essentially the same thing. I’ve never really had a hero, either.
She has inspired me.
Very powerful and heartfelt writing to be sure!!
A great article which really puts feelings into words about our courageous Hillary Clinton. Thank you Sebastian wherever you are.
thank you so much for that link
wonderful writing
heartfelt and much agreed with!!
that is fantastic. I sent it to friends and family.
Where’s the tape?
How can you be so sure that it exists if you have not seen it yourself?
If such a thing existed, surely it would be all over the Internet by now.
Please use your brain.
Thank you.
If there is no tape all Obama had to do was to state “there is no tape” instead of his denial non-denial.
“Where’s the tape?”
Michelle is probably hiding it in the same “lockbox” she keeps Obambi’s balls in.
This was posted on dailyidiots:
that’s why we have to go after Larry Johnson he loves peddling this crap. A week ago, his website was hacked into. Permanently shutting that down would be great.
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So, I guess they will be coming here trying to shut the site down. Usual Alinsky tactics. Shut anyone up who says anything they dont want to hear.
Change you can believe in? Only if you don’t believe in free speech.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
Permanently shutting down the site?
Is that true?
No, it’s Eminem on a delusional bender, isn’t it?
you should provide the link to that
being one that had her NAME stolen and phony words put in my mouth and then placed on that horrid little troll Andrew’s website as a lie should NOT happen to anyone else.
Provide links so we can NOT be challenged. Even if it comes from the orange satan place
a suggestion my friend
I understand how upsetting this can be, but it’s also kind of funny, isn’t it?
Especially when the would be hacker is a fucking moron, removed from reality.
There are lawyers out there who will sue, and it’s a nasty business, having a lawsuit hanging over your head, the stress and the pressure.
They forget there are real consequence to their virtual actions, they simply cannot SEE.
I look upon it as a honey pot, they see something they want to attack, with NO ability to understand the greater implications, never asking themselves if they’re being set up.
Ever.
And this, from Ivy educated people, amazing, isn’t it?
An easy solution to not having your online name stolen is to use a name the Obamabots would not want to steal, such as mine, lol. I dare them to steal it, he he.
Oh now, I get it. *duh*
Mine was stolen and someone suggested this to me, but I didn’t get it.
I’ve had posts from both Huffpo and Talk Left show up on other sites embedded in articles.
The fact is that on the net, there is not much permission requesting. They can’t contact me, since I don’t choose to share my e-mail publicly.
So we have to live with the downside.
No they will steal that too I got my screen name stolen and so I changed it to Obama/Marxist and they stole that too.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
McCain 2008 or until Hillary rises
Good lord…..they obviously listen to us, then. Where did they get the idea it was hacked? From us. LOL*
I actually am trying to assume that it’s just the high traffic.
We have to stop responding to every troll.
It might feel good to post an insult, but they are derailing threads and discussions. I think I’ll take my own advice here and limit myself to 10 troll replies per day. *haha
Ann, you’re right. I always do it, too. I forget that the information is out there, for anyone with a computer with an internet connection has access to. They have already chosen to ignore the facts and buy into the marketing of Obama. They think that the lipstick on that pig is just the right color.
i don’t put any stock in the Larry Sinclair angle.
but, Obama has refused to be interviewed by the
LGBT press. and that’s not the right thing to do.
what’s up with that?
In 2005 the General Synod of the UCC concluded that gay marriage was okay. By the time the 2007 General Synod came around they said it wasn’t. This was a big issue for the UCC and the LGBT community. People thought it would be addressed at the 2007. OB and other speakers did not address the controversy. Many feel that they and he wimped out.
I have read that Obama refused to have his picture taken with San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsome. Does anyone know for sure this is true?
I read Willie Brown and Newsome say it is true
I have a lot of questions myself. I encourage all to post their questions of Barack Obama on the gop website area called “Can We Ask?”
http://www.meetbarackobama.com/
Not a bad idea there at all! If his trolls were smart, they’d take our issues back and do that themselves.
Alas, I think they are too deep in the tank to dare asking questions.
newsbusters.org
anti liberal news site
its worth your time
Possible birth record explanation Obama’s parents religion affirmation (father states muslim mother states atheist. This is my assumption.
Another explanation that looks at ELIGIBILITY:
http://word.truthintheword.org/archives/1430
I NEVER Claimed Obama was a Black Panther! judas priest! lol…. What i said was that many of the Older Preachers, having come to God, were at one time or another affiliated with them here in Chi-town! Not Only them, we have an Alderman and I believe he was a State senateor by the Name of Bobby Rush! Do you know who he is? AN EX-PANTHER!
The argument I was making was that in the neighborhood surrounding Trinity and north of there in Bucj Town, there are still Remnants of the socialist movement. And There is a Marxist enclave here. Rev. Wright has been known to associate with them. And, Black Liberation Theology is closely aligned with Marxist. The doctrines are very close!
April? Shut up!! lol We all should have known by the incessant way they keep coming around here harrassing and rabble rousing that the cotdamn tape exists. Man, this guy is a political natural disaster. Hurrinado Obambi
They’re groupies, really, they’ve been “profiled.”
Dawnelle? Dragon burp?
I was jokin around
You were repeating yourself (for a reason) I just played along and considered it may have been a burp
lol - today I am being humored by the Obamabots more than usual
As for Larry Sinclair.
I really don’t know what to make of this man’s accusations. Either he is looking for some of the Globe Money or he really has a story to tell. Me I can not attach myself to anything he has to say unless he has solid proof to back up his claims. Many a person has been taken down with false claims of sex and the like.
Until he can PROVE he has had a relationship with Obama, I will not give this story any credit. I can say this though….He is a persistent MoFo isnt he?
I’m open to his accusations, again, there seem to be a lot of people who consider Obama bisexual.
It’s an issue because of Obama’s greater psychological instability.
I think it’s the drug admission and his body type…sort of willowy. People are funny about stereotyping that way. But then the real stuff comes out, and those stereotypes don’t really hold up.
I agree that it’s more a matter of mental stability, although Bill Clinton certainly had his own set of sexual issues, obviously. He did fine.
I must be in the minority on this one, but I am so sick of America’s preoccupation with the sex lives of others!
We are a nation of busybodies. LOL*
Sorry, but unlike most puritanical Americans, the gay sex is not what bothers or interests me.
It’s that he could have SMOKED CRACK as recently as 1999.
If you listen to the Larry Sinclair interview, he goes to great lengths to underscore that his motivation for coming forth with this was to expose that Obama had lied about his drug use happening only when he was a teen and that it was long over.
But true to American prudish form, everyone is focusing on the alleged gay sex act.
That’s just nuts to me. It’s about the drugs.
Personally, I don’t believe Sinclair. But oddly enough he doesn’t seem like a nut in the usual sense. But if he can’t prove this story, then he has to be dismissed as a nutcase.
Personally, I don’t care if Obama is in the closet (and my personal gaydar registers a reading), that’s between him and Michelle.
His homophobia, however, is a problem.
I personally think it’s true. I wish there was some proof, but I have a good feeling he is telling the God’s honest truth. I don’t even think Obama and Michelle look all that genuine when they are together. It looks forced to me and I could be way off the mark, but something doesn’t add…
Right now it sounds like a money scam to me.
I don’t proclaim to know the truth about Larry Sinclair either but I do know I will be watching his press conference with interest, if the Obamabots thugs don’t stop him in some way physically first. All I can say is that I hope he has 24/7 security, because if there is any shred of credibility to his claims then I have real concerns about his safety.
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Event Name:Larry Sinclair on Obama
Event Date:June 18, 2008
Event Type:News Conference
Time:3:00 PM
Sponsored by:Veritas Federal Media
Event Location:Lisagor Room
Details:Larry reveals the truth about Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.
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i don’t know about sinclair either but if i were him, i’d have a dang good security system. the rate of survival seems to be less than average considering the death of the trinity member who professed to be gay.
What is this story about?
I have seen the National Enquirer headlines claiming Obama is homosexual, but I just assumed there was nothing much to it. Not that it really matters - unless it’s just one more thing hidden in his closet.
I do find it odd that he only had children after he discovered he wanted to be president and had won his senate seat. I often wonder if those children were used as bait to get what he wants, and whose idea it was to have them. I really don’t believe it was his, or his wife’s, but some schmuck like Rezko’s or Ayers’ or Wright’s idea. Just a hunch. Neither of his parents cared about him, and history proves that attitudes like that are usually passed on too.
While I believe there is a tape of MO ranting about whitey, I want to restate that for millions of us, if the tape were to never appear, we would still refuse to vote for BO.
BO is inexperience, unqualified, dishonest, and a danger to our national security.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Maybe BO will give a speech on Internet Rumors. It could become one of the most important speeches since Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
If you are judging a man exclusively by the kind of preacher he keeps close to him, you might want to check with your man Mccain. Heard of Hagee? How about his U-turn on the ‘agents of intolerance’?
no the really HILARIOUS thing about you is that you ASSUME we are here to entertain you!!!
pfft! Arrogant much? Pitiful really.
Im assuming that was directed at me? I said his comments amused me. What I DID NOT say was that you are here to entertain me. Let me break it down for you:
What I said: ‘Im finding this line of argument increasingly amusing’
What I did not say: ‘YOu people are here exclusively to entertain
me’
Perhaps the distinction was lost to you in your rush to attack me, but dont try and put words in my mouth.
Hagee doesn’t tell Mccain what to do.
Hagee, AFAIK, doesn’t deal directly with Qaddafi, who blew up an airplane full of civilians.
That’s for starters, there is a difference.
BTW, I consider both candidates highly unsuitable, McCain will swing the military toward the neocon agenda, Obama toward Africa, and the Middle East “anti-jewish” crews.
Obama will get in over his head, and breakdown, you will have a mess, he, and his posse, have no clear cut idea how to handle any given situation. So it will fall to aides even more unqualified, and you have a double decker bus, with no driver on the top.
Neither has a clue WTF they’re doing.
“If you are judging a man exclusively by the kind of preacher he keeps close to him, you might want to check with your man Mccain. Heard of Hagee?”
Fair enough let’s compare. Obama sat in Wright’s church for twenty years. He and his wife regularly brought their chidren there. Obama claims a sermon by Wright as the inspiration for his second book.
Obama listed Wright (with Pfleger and Meeks) as one of his three spiritual mentors who help him keep his moral center. Obama gave Wright thousands of dollars, both personally in tithes and sent as donations when he was the co-chair of the Woods Foundation. Wright was an adviser in both his senate and at the beginning of his presidential campaign. And there are MANY more examples their close friendship.
McCain, in an effort to placate his party’s base, accepted Hagee’s endorsement for a few weeks. That’s it.
No even vaguely sane person can argue that these relationships are comparable.
what country are you claiming to hail from?
did or do you vote in that country?
which party do you affiliate yourself?
Where you a Bush Lover?
or were you a Kerry lover?
How old are you?
Do you have a job?
Have you ever had a bill with your name on it for more than a year?
please answer all MY questions so I can further judge you
doh
that was for the foreigner with the letter NOT O but close
McCain didn’t sit in Hagee’s church for twenty years and then claim he didn’t know Hagee had racist views. McCain never claimed Hagee as his spiritual mentor. Hagee didn’t marry McCain and Cindy, Hagee didn’t baptize McCain’s children, Hagee didn’t bless McCain’s new mansion bought with help from Tony Rezko.
Obamabots always want to change the subject when anyone criticizes their messiah.
oh that is so so pitiful
Alan Colmes says that too
LOL
Did McCain sit in Hagees church for 20 years, no
did Haggee marry mccain and cindy, no
did haggee baptize their children, no
does haggee meet with marxist leaders who hate USA, as far as I know, no
I know what you mean AnninCa, they did it to me also..yesterday after I posted a story on my blog entitled…Obama severs his johnson I was flooded with some nasty troll drool in my comment section. I saved most of them for future reference..lol
M. so far this conversation has gone pretty civil by most Obama supporter standards.
I believe we, can agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and such. I understand we have differences, but do not assume we are all McCain Supporters. Far from it. Some are some are not. Me I prefer Godzilla but he is not running so I am shit out of luck.
I do want to say this though…
I have been coming here for about a year now. I was run out of Huff-n-Puff for posting Pro Hillary comments. Not physically mind you, but I was Troll rated and my post grew more and more censored. The same happened to me at TPM, Daily Kos and MyDD. I used a different name then but run off I was just the same.
This is the ONLY place I have found, with the exception of Savage Politics that have welcomed me and made me feel welcome. This election WILL end in November. We Need to keep our powder dry for those that deserve it, not each other. I believe you, me and the rest of our family can agree to disagree without any name calling. But I can not say the same for many other ‘Bots that come here. It has been our experience that they only want a confrontation, Hijack our tags or worse…..try to shut us down!
This guy has so many shady, questionable connections he has to have a whole site devoted to tying to counter-react all these associations whom the MSM refuses to address. Sheese… Larry is right, he is gay. At minuminm a woosie.
LARRY, that tape better come out, I sure hope you are right my friend, because these liars sure are denying it big time. Kinda like that blue dress of Monica’s.
Larry SINCLAIR that is.
So………
In the words of that great American, who took a beating so I wouldn’t have to,,,
CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
cant we all just get along?
a song about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KcgXC_Lq2DA
election 08
why cant we be friends
war
I was just kiddin Dawn…..I assumed it was because of my countdown..LOL
Hey Larry!
I’ve got a question. SAVAGE POLITICS has this pretty neat gizmo called an Gravatar! you can add a picture to your post’. When we getting something like that here? It’s free ya know…hint hint…;-)
Gravatar? No please no, bandwidth issues, page loading issues etc. etc. This blog is actually amazingly fast when not over-run, I’m thinking gravatar’s may slow things down. ??
Neither has a clue WTF they’re doing
Have you considered that either of them might turn out to be a pleasant suprise as a President? Running for the Party nomination is in my opinion not the most ideal testing ground to see who would be a better president. It often shows who can run a better campaign but not necessarily who will be the better president. You are forced to pander and in trying to appeal to as many people as possible, you really cannot escape the process with any dignity. I recall Hillary Clinton saying to some voters “Some people call you swing voters- I call you Americans” and I cringed. Obama has said similar cringeworthy statements in the name of pandering. That’s what you have to sink to to get that nomination but Im not sure it will mean thats exactly how you will behave in office. Just my two cents.
And yes I am judging him by the preacher he keeps. I would be held to that same standard. So would you! You can not tell me he sat there for 20 years and did not absorb SOME of what he herd! Did you read his book? Jesus, he so much as says so in his book! I don’t have a copy in front of me, the first printing was scandalous! the second printing was scrubbed of all the rants against whitey. Why has the media ignored THAT?
you racist bigot
are you snarking or are you that ignorant?
I think at the heart of a lot of these problems from Barack Obama is that wife of his and her own greed and unwielding ambition. He seems like such a wimp to me. I think she pushes him into a lot of these situations as well. Look at the way he ducked and dodged on key votes when it was time to take a stand and show some guts when he was a state senator? Michelle wasn’t around holding that frying pan to that head. That’s why she is fair game if you ask me. Everytime she opens her scoop mouth and says something dumb, I’m going to pounce.
Hey Sugar!! GF you KNOW we think alike!!
^5
I don’t like her either, sugar. But I think he’s all about raw ambition, which is why he devised this strategy to run on no record from day 1.
I don’t doubt for a minute that he is greedy for power as well, but she seems like she would drain out of all of her blood and replace it with kerosene if it meant getting power and wealth. For all of the bashing of Hillary, she doesn’t have anything on Michelle Obama when it comes to ambition! Nothing. Her abrasiveness [Michelle of course] even to her husband’s supporters is very telling. Ambition and greed in overdrive. Hillary was never abrasive to her supporters or to Bill’s supporters when he was in the spotlight.
I’m not quite so hard. I think she’s tacky.
That’s what I would have called her in my youth. Just a bit tacky.
She’s a fish out of water.
Funny, I always here how his record is very similar to Hillary’s. So which is it, does he have no record or a record similar to Hillary?
Which is it, is he a muslim or a member of an anti-American christian church?
Which is it, is he a fascist or a leftist socialist.
I always thought the right-wing was known for a well run smear campaign. Seems this year you are getting some things mixed up. Well, I guess the uneducated people you are targeting will not realize that the smears are contradicting themselved. The GOP/Hillary campaign can always count on the uneducated.
This blog isn’t targeting any particular group. We have a wide variety of viewpoints here. Also many of us are Democrats. Or we were Democrats until our party chose to support an unqualified, inexperienced man for president instead of an experienced, well-qualified woman.
If you don’t like it here go elsewhere.
why not stay here and try to educate some people.
You just said there is a wide variety of viewpoints here but then ended by telling me if I don’t hold your viewpoint I should go elsewhere. Please do make up your mind…
well he “lifted” copied, STOLE many of Hillarys positions which is the extent to which they are similar (5 millions green jobs etc etc)
some he came up with on his own
like the 30% increase on SS payroll taxes, that is a REGRESSIVE tax one Hillary is against
and of course face time with dictators who threaten us
those are all his…
I have said from the get-go O’s better? half? is the beginning of his fall. And so to support this I made this and published it yesterday! It takes most of 2 days to make one of these-so by the time I got this one finished-I was so sick of seeing his mug I could have puked! But, it is for the only cause!
OUR Country-our-freedom-our kids and US!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI1IHprV2ak
if you can leave a comment please do! We really get hit by the Obots-and need reinforcements sometimes!
Thankyou! One of my tube friends had his site hacked and lost days of beautiful work and info!
We have to stick together!
PUMA!
Fair enough let’s compare. Obama sat in Wright’s church for twenty years. He and his wife regularly brought their chidren there. Obama claims a sermon by Wright as the inspiration for his second book.
Obama listed Wright (with Pfleger and Meeks) as one of his three spiritual mentors who help him keep his moral center. Obama gave Wright thousands of dollars, both personally in tithes and sent as donations when he was the co-chair of the Woods Foundation. Wright was an adviser in both his senate and at the beginning of his presidential campaign. And there are MANY more examples their close friendship.
McCain, in an effort to placate his party’s base, accepted Hagee’s endorsement for a few weeks. That’s it.
No even vaguely sane person can argue that these relationships are comparable
Good points but that ‘not even a vaguely sane person’ thing at the end was excessive- I do think Im at least vaguely sane!
Redragon62- Good post.
You’re right, these relationships aren’t comparable. The McCain/Hagee relationship is so much more despicable in that, according to you, it was solely a political manoeuver. Why would someone seek an endorsement from such a person. Didn’t the McCain campaign have access to the internets. Don’t they know about the Google (the Google is a search engine which keeps a database of many articles on the internets).
John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God’s behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.
Hagee says the Catholic Church is “the great whore”.
you know you are arguing with a fellow Uhhbama supporter right?
LOL
It’s spelled Obama.
And who said I’m an Obama supporter?
I’ll grant you that M.
But I did not come to this decision over night. I was and some may say still am, a democratic Committee man here in Illinois. I have had the pleasure of meeting many many politicians in my 30 years of voting. My father and his dad before him also were Chicago Precinct captains in one form or the other. I KNOW all I need to know about Obama. I KNOW what he did and DID not do for the people in his district. Many elderly folks died in those REZCO homes that were in his district. There was a mountain of complaints sent to his office and guess what> He says he can’t find those records. ALL his records from his senate days in Illinois have “DIsappeared”. Now I’m not a genius but this smells of Illinois politics! As soon as he jumped into the race….ALL of his Illinois Senate records VANISHED and he claims he knows nothing about it. What would you believe if you knew the way things work here and he goes on National TV and claims that his records vanished? You would cry…….BULLSHIT wouldn’t you?
I KNOW what he did and DID not do for the people in his district. Many elderly folks died in those REZCO homes that were in his district. There was a mountain of complaints sent to his office and guess what> He says he can’t find those records. ALL his records from his senate days in Illinois have “DIsappeared”. Now I’m not a genius but this smells of Illinois politics! As soon as he jumped into the race….ALL of his Illinois Senate records VANISHED and he claims he knows nothing about it. What would you believe if you knew the way things work here and he goes on National TV and claims that his records vanished? You would cry…….BULLSHIT wouldn’t you?
A very good point indeed! How exactly do all those records disappear, it’s ludicrous and dishonest at best. Records don’t VANISH, they are destroyed or locked up, that’s a scientific FACT, so where are the records?? I’m amazed that an investigative reporter has yet to follow the paper trail that apparently VANISHED.
How in God’s earth can anybody be elected President of the USA when a portion of their PUBLIC OFFICE records have VANISHED, makes no sense at all.
Obama and his campaign are pathetic. Who is going to an Obama site other than cult aide drinkers to find the truth about the “smears”. Obama is an asshat winer. What a punk.
These fools don’t know what battle to fight!
They have Jake Tapper at ABC making a huge issue of this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvZEZL2LmA8&e
Notice the words “baby mama” on the bottom. Racist? Apparently Jake thinks so.
Here’s his column. Did they fedex him some new flavor of Koolaide?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/fox-news-calls.html?cid=118567410#comment-118567410
I think the conservative won this round. She’s right. Michelle IS fair game provided they stick with her statements and policy remarks and don’t go for the cheap shot.
As for Tapper’s outrage? I totally missed the caption myself until he pointed it out. *haha
Just trying to keep it real My brother, ( Or sister ) can’t really tell through this monitor,
As for McCain…well I speak only for myself here….I can not vote for him, I don’t agree with his politics nor will I ever. but I do admire his service to this country. Being a Vet myself, I understand his commitment. But I cannot believe that with all HE has gone through and his love for the Military, he voted against more compensation for the veterans. he went along with his cronies in the senate!
Although I was not surprised…Thats a repugnican for you…I was disappointed.
What’s that BeeBop…can’t open the link
Go to abcnews.com and visit Tapper’s column regarding the RACISM of Fox calling MO Bo’s “baby’s mama… it’s the newest thing … on top … or it was !!!!
Obama’s birth certificate is up at the Great Orange Satan.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616
ok, clearly by law in the usa obama was born illegimate. his father was already legally married. it really shouldn’t matter but perhaps to obama it is an issue.
Obama and his campaign are pathetic. Who is going to an Obama site other than cult aide drinkers to find the truth about the “smears
Aah yes- only stupid, brainwashed people vote for the candidate you dont like. Thats a brilliant intellectual argument right there. You are probably one of those people who thought the fistbump with his wife was a terrorist gesture? Dude you are not debating. You are just saying ‘If you dont agree with me, you are an idiot’.
Reddragon- interesting post, I can see where you are coming from. Got to dash now but Id love to continue the debate tomorrow.