A final rant from an eternal Clinton supporter
By PaganPower on June 13, 2008 at 1:40 AM in Barack Obama, DNC, GLBT, Hillary Clinton, Latinos, White Working Class
I received this in the comments section at my blog and thought it deserved to be a diary unto itself. The author’s name is Regencyg.
I am sure you will agree that this is an excellent observation. Pagan
I like to think that I have led my life with distinction. I was raised by a single mother with little help. We were even on public assistance for a time. I have excelled in school since the very first day and now stand to graduate an esteemed high school with the rank of Salutatorian. I have friends of every race, every religion—and lack thereof, every political ideology, and sexual orientation. Even for love of a few stale jokes, you couldn’t truly believe that I hated someone because they were different from me. I wouldn’t and I can’t. Before this Democratic Primary, I’d never had the honor and the pleasure of being called a racist, a crybaby, or anyone’s psycho ex-girlfriend a la Glenn Close out of “Fatal Attraction.” It’s been a season of firsts.
I turned 18 in November. My first thought? Oh God, I have to vote.I hadn’t listened to the pundits, I didn’t even know who was running. Some Hispanic guy, some black guy, and the former First Lady of the United States; oh, and some other white guys. The only one I recognized was Edwards and my heart did an awful large thump for what could’ve been in 2004. (I hadn’t forgiven John Kerry for conceding Ohio, I still haven’t and he’s invoked my ire ever since.) Yet, it wasn’t John Edwards and his invincible haircut that caught my attention; it was the woman I had never noticed and the history I’d never cared about.
For the first time ever, I noticed Hillary Rodham Clinton outside of Bill Clinton’s shadow. I noticed a woman who dared to stand side-by-side on a stage with a large group of men and consider them her equal. I saw a woman who had a mind like a mantrap, who could recall facts like the kids I know can Google. I saw her make fools out of her competitors when they just didn’t know answers that came naturally to her. I was more than impressed.
Then, the season truly began and I saw Hillary Clinton lose Iowa. Then, I saw her win New Hampshire. Then I saw her lose some and win some on Super Tuesday. Best of all I got to watch somebody play the race card and somebody else be framed for doing it. Reminds me of a shirt a lot my friends have. There’s a cute white bunny on it and beneath the bunny it reads: “I did it, but I’m blaming you.”
Yep, that sounds about right. Do you know why Hillary Rodham Clinton won New Hampshire? According to one “political analyst,” or those who get paid to regurgitate what the Washington Post says verbatim, it was the Bradley effect. The Bradley effect takes place when polled likely voters claim they will vote for a minority candidate but fail to do as much when they are in the voting booth. The insinuation: closeted racism. That was just the first indication that this primary wasn’t going to be fair, but it was far from the last.
South Carolina came and the biggest double-edged sword to be forged came out full force and he went by the name of William Jefferson Clinton. He was a gift on the stump. He was all charm and down home sweetness, but he was a wonk and there was no denying that East Coast education. He was an asset to Hillary Clinton that could not be denied. So he had to be neutralized—and best believe that he was.
By February 15th, Bill Clinton barely dared to stick his head in view of a camera lest he be misquoted and vilified for the nineteenth time. Suddenly, the “first black president,” as coined by Toni Morrison, was the first KKKlan President. He and his wife, both with a lifetime of civil rights advocacy and battles behind them were outcasts in a community that once revered them. For what reason? What could he and his wife possibly gain by espousing racism after all this time?
Not.
A.
Thing.
What had made Hillary Clinton so formidable was the sheer size of her coalition. She had African-Americans, one of the most dependable voting blocks in the Democratic Party, she had working Americans who remembered what life under a Clinton was like. She had her determination and she was in it to win it. Nobody else was of any real consequence. That is, until the first-term Senator from Illinois stood up to bat.
…And the pieces came tumbling down.
He showed up. He spoke out loud. The masses—though not the majority—fell to their knees in awe. I didn’t. I was neither impressed nor fooled. The media was. The party leaders loved what he brought to the game. He had style, had new voters, he had money. Oh, they had tingles up and down their legs. This was February, around the time that I realized that the fix was in. Naively, I still hoped that things could change. I think that even Hillary did.
A string of bare defeats and incredible victories later, here we are. It’s June 8th, the day after Hillary Rodham Clinton has suspended her campaign for the presidency in order to endorse Barack Obama. I and many thousands—perhaps millions—of others are left without a leader. It isn’t as easy as saying “let Democrats be Democrats” and vote Democrat. What we’ve seen these last two months was far from Democratic. I’ve seen so many minority cards played that I can’t stand the card game anymore.
I’ve seen a distinguished Senator and beloved First Lady verbally molested in a fashion I would never allow if I were a producer on network or cable television. I’ve seen death threats leveled against her. I’ve seen more than a single man or woman say that all it would take was a good “doing over” for Hillary to see the light, whatever that proverbial light was. I’ve seen men laugh at her laugh. I’ve seen the nutcracker and boys who call themselves men talking about the way they gird their loins when she comes anywhere near them. I’ve seen those same boys where the masks of saints when she deigns to entertain their company only to sneer at her back on exit.
I’ve seen a party that has claimed as its mantle the interests of the people turn their noses up at their expressed desires in direct violation of their very own written rules. They’ve said, “We must respect the rules.” Why thank you, Alice Germond. Sadly, those rules state that they also should’ve respected the voters. (Rule 13 A of the Democratic Party Rules & Bylaws, entitled Fair Reflection of Presidential Preference, if any can be bothered recall.) But those weren’t the rules they were interested in and so weren’t the rules they followed. Democracy didn’t die the day we allowed the best President we would’ve ever known to leave history with no impression; it died the day that 30 people decided that their desires were more pressing than the expressed wishes of 600,000 people in Michigan and 1.7 million in Florida.
Until the very last primary I prayed that someone in the party would see sense. I even prayed they’d defend my candidate against the harsh, uneven criticism leveled against her by the media and her opponents. The problem wasn’t that she couldn’t defend herself; the problem was that she had to defend both herself and her opponent with her hands tied behind her back. Any historical fact—from the most trivial and benign to those even minutely inflammatory—became a gaffe and sandstorm. The news cycle for her was lost time and again to media-made monsoons of Tuzla (never-ending, I recall), to LBJ & JFK (true, however, it was), to RFK and his assassination on the 6th of June. She couldn’t win the day for losing because if it was folly, it made her a fool and if it was true, it was anyone and everyone’s dog whistle.
Her opponent didn’t and hasn’t faced that. I imagine he won’t. Now that the media has picked him—and the party leaders have gone along with it—they’re gonna have to save him from himself. By not vetting him or questioning his many “misspeaks” or gaffes, they’ve left the country to choose between the lesser of who-cares and why-should-I. They’re gonna have to cover their bottom lines.
They had a brilliant mind and an iron will. They turned her away.
They had an unbeatable candidate and a popular, voter-driven mandate. They said, “No, thanks.”
They had the White House in November, like they promised. They decided they wanted the hot, red car instead, with the dollar signs on the hood, something they can drive home and show their kids.
They wanted to be rich and cool. They didn’t need those poor working-class people to cramp their style. They didn’t want those Latinos, or Asians, or LGBT people, or the disabled, or the elderly, or the Jewish, or the Catholic people reminding them of how things used to be. They didn’t want to be reminded of those horrid “old politics.” You know, the kind espoused by the foolhardy Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the lackluster Harry Truman, by that truly despicable John F. Kennedy, and even further still by that disgustingly traitorous American Lyndon B. Johnson who fought for the Civil Rights Acts, bent arms and bent ears to bring it to life. He lost the South forever for the Democrats but brought morality back to the American consciousness, that loathsome toad. And how ever will we forget Robert F. Kennedy, who lived and died on his ideals, the ideals embraced by a generation and that saw their completion decades after his own senseless end. Damn those old politics, nothing good ever came of them. Guess it’s time to try something new.
Hope and change. Those very words have lit the torches and the candles of a dozen movements that have carried this country forward to where it is and I imagine that those words will carry many others in the future. Nevertheless, what no ones wishes to address or be caught addressing is the fact that “just words” will never change the world. If there is no mind to a movement, it becomes chaos or worse. What we have now is a war of “just words” that without distinction will be interpreted in any way our opponents see fit. What we have now is an opponent that is not impressed with just words that are pretty, and words that are light. We have an opponent who laughs at our sonnets and our metaphors, whose spirit does not lift with a good hymn, and a chant makes him punchy. We have an adversary who is all about “straight-talk.”
Hope and change will not deter him. Hope never put a dollar into an empty bank account. Change is the thing a struggling mother is looking for when the food stamps don’t cover Pampers and milk. Hope is what that same mother has when she can’t get out of bed, but she can’t miss work today—she just can’t! Change is what happens when she has to take her kids and sneak away from her apartment in the middle of the night because the change she used to buy the Pampers isn’t there to pay the rent.
Everyday Americans will just have to keep holding on for another term more. Democrats aren’t gonna save them like they promised. How do I know? I know because the “Democrat” they picked has exactly one hope in the hell of being elected. I’ve met the Republicans, most of America has—John Kerry has certainly met them. Thanks to them and their fair friends, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Senator Kerry hasn’t seen the inside of the White House save for on the Christmas tour, and he won’t ever again. That’s a common sentiment among Democrats—and no doubt will become familiar to the party’s “nominee.”
To quote the eminent Maxine Waters of California, “We don’t need hope, what we need is help.” Sadly, neither Representative Waters nor the rest of her Super Delegate compatriots are in any position to give us that help. They have done the politically expedient thing, they have spoken aloud and made themselves heard; they have covered their backs—and left us in the rain.
By 2012, most of them will still have their homes, unlike more than a million working-class Americans thanks to the foreclosure crisis.
Expect gas prices to get so expensive that working isn’t worth the cost anymore. Between gas, taxes, utilities, and—I don’t know—being alive, there’s just no sense in it. A living wage isn’t one if you can’t live on it, and everyday Americans can’t keep living like this.
Doctor? You don’t need no stinking doctor. You won’t have anything to live on during retirement anyway, so I wouldn’t plan to live that long. Haven’t you heard? Universal Healthcare Coverage is for other countries. Dying unnecessarily is an honor and a privilege in the United States. Get used to it.
As for global warming, I suggest you buy, in bulk, shorts and flip-flops. Don’t expect Al Gore to stick his neck out for you now. God knows there isn’t a Democrat left who will.
But what can I say? It’s evidently a great year to be a “Democratic” Party Leader. It’s just a really, really awful year to be a run-of-the-mill Democrat.
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Well said, but there’s still FIVE more months to the GE and every day there’s more questions.
Yes, what will be revealed within the coming months and weeks? Remember, the words “revealed,” and “suspend.” Stay tuned folks………God Bless our great country, and God Bless Hillary Clinton and her family.
Whatever happened to the preposition “from”?
You read this entire article and that’s all you could comment on? So much for substance.
McCAIN TO MEET WITH CLINTON SUPPORTERS ON SATURDAY — LAUNCHES NEW OUTREACH PROGRAM TO WOMEN
June 12, 2008
Per the campaign: “On Tuesday, Carly Fiorina hosted the first meeting of our Women for McCain task force — which includes Meg Whitman and other top business and community leaders — to start laying out a comprehensive strategy to reach out to women voters. Today, Carly will be in Ohio to meet with a group of Clinton supporters who have an organization called Women for Fair Politics to talk about her support for John McCain. They invited her to post a Web video explaining why she’s supporting McCain on their website. On Saturday, John McCain and Carly will meet with Clinton supporters by hosting a virtual town hall meeting webcast with them.”
Source: http://www.politico.com/playbook/
That’s cool. He needs to address his position on women’s reproductive rights to solidify this bloc.
If he does that?
They’ll flock.
I know it`s politics, but at least he is showing some concern for the “common sense” people.
I think he knows the fence he straddles.
He is taking a risk with us.
The ultimate rant of a Clinton will be this President Obama first day in office
The ultimate rant of a Clinton’s supporter will be this: President Obama first day in office
As Obambi keeps flopping along while getting weaker by the day (a process that started in early March) the question will come up as we approach the convention: Is this really the guy we want for the general election? Is he going to drag down the Democratic Party in the fall elections and threaten potential democratic gains in the House and Senate? And finally (gasp!) do we turn to Hillary? It’ll be fun watching the media handle it.
It’s been observed that the idiots who vote for Obama do NOT vote down ticket.
It has also been observed that the idiots who vote for Obama aren’t democrats anyway.
Whatever — as far as I’m concerned the Democratic party is dead.
Now we learned that snObama has taken over the democrat party and is moving it to dirty rotten political machine — Chicago.
It has been made clear by snObama and the Obamabots who invade blogs that white women are not needed nor wanted in the Obamacrat party.
FINE — I’ll take my vote and vote for McCain.
Hillary Clinton should leave the Obamacrat party — she and her husband have been thrown OUT of the party.
Everybody knows that sites like these will keep the fire going until election day. But in reality a large part of democrats that voted for Hillary are just looking for an excuse not to support BHO and sites like this give them plenty of reasons. So please keep up the good work.
I don’t need an excuse. He’ll never get my vote, but it’s not about him. I don’t hate him.
I am a disaffected Democrat.
THAT’S why he won’t get my vote.
Please…the only people supporting Obama are the ones who HAVEN’T looked into him.
That is the reason the DNC doesn’t want old party people…..because they read!
They know what happened to their party.
Some of us have been on political debate boards for years with Dems and Reps debating actual topics and scandals. Dissecting the parts, to understand and hopefully learn more about each new topic. The free exchange of opposing ideas isn’t foreign to us.
Neither is the political landscape.
However, this whole notion that you have to dig for dirt on Obama is ridiculous. Most of the important information that gave me pause about Obama, was in the Chicago area newspapers and the NYT.
It is sad that people try and claim this website is falsely smearing him. It is simply utilizing the information in those mainstream newspapers and dissecting it further.
To be threatened, by such a tame thing that has been going on for a lot of years with Dem and Reps, concerning the Clinton vs Bush years. Reflects poorly on Obama.
‘Look over there’ only works for so long….and only on a certain segment of the population.
It doesn’t work on people who have been on political debate boards for over a decade.
Curiosity doesn’t equate to racism no matter how many of you make the charge. Due diligence is my civic duty and that isn’t racist either.
Each time I see such an accusation, it only reveals the ignorance of the people making it.
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To the original poster….excellent post.
I’m glad they put it up again.
That is by far the most eloquently written history of this election cycle that I have read. Each super delegate should have a copy in their hands as they look around at what they and the DNC have wrought.
Regencyg is accurate in her thinking that the fix was in a long time ago for Obama. The democratic base is being disregarded, and you have to wonder what is really going on.
The money thing is where this all gets mirky. Who are the people supporting Obama financially. How is it that he is still reportedly sitting on 40 million. This “minor” fact has the DNC on its knees. Somewhere, someone knows what is happening behind the scenes. My hunch is it isn’t a pretty picture.
This video is on the Hillary Clinton Forum….I WAS STUNNED….You need to get this out there because I DON’T THINK PEOPLE WILL BE TOO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is gay and run through the mall in a diaper and then gets hit by bus. The professor that made it works for Obama campaign and was his professor at college!!! USAPROUD
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=16494
Look. You can blame everyone else you want, but the facts are that Hillary herself screwed up. And her screw up has to leave you asking the question, “What kind of a manager is she?”
She let her campaign run into a ditch because she was unwilling to make the hard decisions that were dividing her campaign until it was too late. She lost (as has now been documented in articles in Newsweek, NYTimes, Wall Street Journal) because she had so much dissension and lack of teamwork on her staff.
She lost because her strategy was flawed. She didn’t even consider the importance of the causcuses until too late. She lost because she thought she could sew up the nomination before many states even had the chance to vote. How is that for Democracy!!!
She lost because she was so confident she would win by Super Tuesday, that she didn’t even have a plan for after that.
She lost because everytime a wound would open up on BO, she would say something stupid (like Bosnia).
She lost because with all this talk and nonsense about experience, she, for the single most important vote and decision she has ever had to make, voted to support the war in Iraq…and then refused to admit it was a mistake.
And the most discouraging thing for me, a Democrat…she lost because the only reason (IMO) she voted for the Iraq war was because she was running for president and had to prove she could be tough enough. Let me repeat that: she supported an unjust war that has killed thousands of Americans, and who knows how many Iraqis BECAUSE SHE HAD TO SHOW HOW TOUGH SHE WAS. What a horrible, immoral reason to vote for anything. IMO, this fact alone disqualifed her for the presidency.
She lost, well, because of her own actions and overconfidence.
I won’t argue about how the candidates ran their campaigns they all made mistakes.
But SHE won all the debates everytime she spoke. Nobama has no agenda except ‘”what Hillary said”..
The truth of the matter Hillary Is what this country needs now. Not a man like Obama who no one can figure out what he really stands for, and too many unknowns. And the unknowns lead many to question him. If the man has nothing to hide let HIM address it. BULLIES and THUGS are insecure, have something to hide and no they can only win if they get rid of the competitition any way possible. REMEMBER the BUSH campaign?? That was mild compared to what the Obamabots are doing.
What part of the negative abusive assaultive and lots of possible illegal game-play of your NOBAMA candidate that we question, don’t like or want do you not understand??
In many of our view it is MORE like BUSH, NOT CHANGE and full of INEXPERIENCE and TOO FAR LEFT.
The media never did follow up on stories showing how Obama basically “cut and pasted” his policies from Hillary Clinton and some from Edwards while adding a few million dollars here and there to make it look like he was doing more. I read articles in newspapers about it but not once did I see a network news organization do a story on it. People will look back on this election and books will be written about how the signs were there that Obama was a phony and couldn’t do anything without his “David Axelrod prepared talking points” on his teleprompter.
Oh fuck you —
You asshole Obamabots keep trying to rewrite history.
snObama pulled out the racist card and he has been acting like a REPUBLICAN in his treatment of the Clintons.
BESIDES — Hillary Clinton WON!
She has the popular vote and EACH of her delegates represent MORE votes then the dumb ass snObama.
Obama ran a dirty campaign — and even though he outspent Clinton she beat him in the major must win states.
Your guy is a crook who belongs in Jail with Rezko.
Your guy is an INADEQUATE BLACK MAN — who has gotten this far on affirmative action — not on his skill or knowledge. Obama is a lazy ass, dumb idiot.
Your guy is the most sexist jackass EVER to run for President.
So don’t try giving us your fucking revisionist history — you low life son of a bastard.
Brad,
Your arguments aren’t necessarily wrong, but they are tired. I’ve heard this routine from so many rank and file Obamicons, mostly professional white men in their late 20s to mid-40s.
So what if Obama ran a more deft campaign and that Clinton made some crucial tactical errors? A good candidate doesn’t make a good president. If you need an example of that, look no further than that terrific campaigner, George W. Bush, in both 2000 and 2004. Maybe when Obama is president, you, Brad, can sit down and have a beer with him. Won’t that be terrific?
You know, sad but true, here in Texas we had to live with the same old uninterrupted assembly line to the Death Chamber because our Governor, Ann Richards, had to prove she was tough, too. She just couldn’t make the hard decision because it was right that Bill Clinton couldn’t do because it was right when he let Ricky Ray Rector die in the death chamber while he (Bill) ran for Governor for the second, and this time successful, time. Governor Richards did it to retain her “political viability”, both for a second term and for her own future, but it didn’t work for her because the stupid Texas voters wanted a “real man” like Bush. But it worked for Bill. Everybody could see that he was Tough on Crime, not like before, and he wanted to be The President.
Ricky Ray Rector was the guy who bad been so badly beaten and brain-damaged in prison that he saved his slice of pie from his last meal for “after the execution”.
God, I hate political expediency.
Wrong! Hillary hasn’t yet “lost”. The Democratic Party is the real loser here by forcing Obama down everybody’s throats! Did Kerry lose because he voted for the war? No – he lost because the Republicans did to him what they have already started doing to Obama. Had it not been planned by the party leaders back in 2004 for Obama to get the nomination, Hillary Clinton would have had the nomination wrapped up fairly and squarely by Super Tuesday and the Dems would have the White House back in November! That crap about her voting for the war is just that – CRAP! Get the heck over it – it’s not like hers was the vote that sealed the deal – ask Kerry and Edwards! This article is brilliant and should be sent out to the superdelegates. Very well written!
It’s in the axion (new version):
Trust the angel you know.
Don’t trust the devil you don’t know.
This is basically my story about this election. From starting out with Edwards because I didn’t know how intelligent Hillary Clinton was to being so mad during the South Carolina contest because of the way the Obama campaign and people like Donna Brazile and Jim Clyburn used “race” as a weapon to gain the support of the black community that the Clinton’s had before then. There is a special place in hell for Brazile and Clyburn. These two posed as “uncommitted” super delegates so that when they bashed the Clinton’s it look like it was coming from an unbiased source. If the story about Bill Clinton having an enemies list is true, I hope those two are at the very top right in front of Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and MSNBC.
When will someone reveal who told the AP that Clinton was quitting, the morning of the South Dakota Primary?
The AP rush to scoop the MSM was predictable, and thus somebody’s plan.
It is a micro-cosium of the entire crooked campaign.
A great commentary on the Democratic Party and this travesty of a campaign.
I can’t support a party whose highly acclaimed and much touted mantle of “count every vote” is a fraud.
I can’t support a party that uses a rigged state delegate system that makes one vote count more than another, depending on which congressional district the vote is cast.
I can’t support a party that condones a caucus which restricts the vote over a primary which encourages the vote and a party that condones caucus votes that are the result of bullying, intimidation, and criminal voting obstruction and interference.
I can’t support a party with a system of “super” delegate votes that can overturn the will of the people.
I can’t support a party whose candidate is SELECTED over the will of the people.
I can’t support the Democratic Party.
“That’s cool. He needs to address his position on women’s reproductive rights to solidify this bloc.
If he does that?
They’ll flock.”
Really?
so you think women in the democratic party–and women in general– will “flock” to a person that is anti-abortion, doesn’t support contraception being paid for by health plans, AND wants to spend more money on “abstinence only education”!!!!
What planet are you on?
Those are exactly the positions that will turn women OFF to McSame!
Hillary blew it in the campaign with her sense of entitlement and inevitability, she blew it by being unable to manage her money or her management team.
That campaign was full of leaks, backstabbing, and open warfare as the various players tried to settle old scores from their white house days.
–which is another reason it may not be such a good idea to recycle administrations like Bush I and II and Clinton I (but not gonna have a II).
Lying about Bosnia and “sniper fire” certainly didn’t help.
AS any veteran will tell you, lying about being in combat or under fire is just about the worst offense you can commit–seconded only by pretending to be a navy seal, green beret, ranger, or some other elite forces person.
She LIED repeatedly about that, and Bill Clinton LIED repeatedly about other issues –like saying he was against the war from “day one.”
They should have wiped the floor with Obama, but they didn’t.
Campaigns for President are supposed to serve this purpose, and when the pressure was on HRC proved unable to complete the task.
If she couldn’t manage a competent campaign, how on earth could she manage the White House?
It’s a test, and she failed.
steveeBOY…
this woman vet WILL vote for McCain. get over it. my vagina does not lead me. my brain does. Roe v Wade is the least of our worries.
go blow obama
Go back to Obamaland!
ANOTHER OBAMA-LINKED RACIST PASTOR
under fire for racist talk . Minister called U.S. mayors ’slave masters,’ blacks who protect white men ‘HOUSE N-GGERS’ exclaimed James Meeks, an Illinois state senator and pastor of one of the largest churches in the state, endorses Obama. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59735
ANOTHER OBAMA-LINKED NUTTY PROFESSOR
Obama adviser, Stanford University law professor, Larry Lessig denies he had blasphemous intent by including in his lectures a video of a GAY JESUS CHRIST SASHAYING NEARLY NAKED down a city street to the tune of Gloria Gaynor’s “I Will Survive,” http://www.spike.com/video/jesus-christ-musical/2685131
Lessig has worked actively on behalf of Obama to explain calls for the appointment of a technology czar to serve in the White House under the title of chief technology officer. Obama’s campaign website currently proclaims Lessig as one of the industry experts supporting his technology plan to create a chief technology officer.Lessig, on his website, endorses Obama, describing the candidate as a friend and former colleague.
SOCIALIST SOROS’ front group MoveOn PAC stated:” Now it’s our Party: we bought it, we own it, and we’re going to take it back.”(Dec.2004) Having already “bought” the party, Soros now has his puppet Obama, as selected by the DNC, who will allow him to act as its absentee owner. “I want my ideas to be heard”,he wants to place the party formally under the control of the Shadow Party…..It’s a slippery slope from socialism to communism.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE…
AND
SOON THIS WILL ALL END……….
You Hillary diehards draw your conclusions from emotion than from reason. You complain that the superdelegates chose Obama. But Obama won more elected delegates, so he would have won, and Hillary lost, even if the superdelegates didn’t exist. You complain that Hillary won the popular vote [a debatable claim], but at the outset of the primaries, the candidates sought to win delegates, not popular votes. Why would we reward with the nomination, a candidate who sought one goal, failed, but accidentally achieved [again, debatable] a milestone she did not set out to achieve? Don’t get me wrong, I think Hillary is great, and I would gladly vote for her over McCain. She just didn’t win the nomination. Obama did. And because Obama’s positions represent the ideals of Democrats, I will vote for him.
BUT, Obama did NOT win ENOUGH pledged delegates to win the nomination outright.
You Obamabots were screaming from the beginning that the superdelegates didn’t dare go against the “will of the people” but that was when Hillary was leading in the announced superdelegate count (with hundreds of still undecided supers left to play while the regular pledged delegates were starting to dwindle as the primaries were coming to a close).
Unless something has dramatically changed in the past week, Obama’s “win” has only come as a result of including “soft” delegates (aka, “superdelegates”) in the delegate count.
I’d further point out that, until the first round of voting at the convention (when the superdelegates will have to actually cast their votes with more than just their mouths), Barack Obama is NOT “the” nominee–he is merely the PRESUMED nominee (or, in a more fitting way, nominee presumptive). It’s worth noting that Prince Charles is NOT the “heir” to the British throne, he’s merely the “heir apparent” (only when the Queen dies, will he be the heir–and that’s presuming that she doesn’t pull some surprise like naming William as her heir).
And, I would like to remind you that the majority of Barry’s win came from states which have almost never voted for a Democrat in the general election. His wins in the South, for instance, were mostly in states which have gone to the Democrats only three times since 1964. While his wins in states west of the Mississippi came in states which have also largely failed to support a Democrat more than a few times (other than Hawai’i and Minnesota, there’s been very little consistency for a Democrat winning the state in the General Election since 1964–California, while it’s been Democratic since 1992, was solidly Republican in the 1968-1988 elections).
When is Donna Brazille going to quit? She said she would if superdelegates decided the race! She needs to keep her word and get the heck out! I do believe steveeboy might be catching the train back to Obamaland – why don’t you get on there with him?
Many things have bothered me for the past few months, but what I have found out recently is quite disturbing. I suppose that Dean’s involvement in all of this is one issue. Sure, getting young people involved in politics is good, but it is as if those young people are being used.
I remember when I was in college and went to the voting booth. I really knew nothing about the issues or the character of the person that I was voting for. I just voted democrat and based my vote almost entirely on name recognition. Even many adults do the same thing. While not all young voters do this, they are in the majority.
Politics is a dirty game, but I always believed that the Democratic party was different in a way. They are really showing their difference now. You can see it in the blogs, you can see it on tv and it speaks volumes in the actions of the DNC.
Oh your absolutly right, the saint Bill and his wife never said or did anything bad or wrong to Obama. Whatever. I watched this whole primary as well. Take the glasses off girl, there fogging up.
To say that Bill and Hillary are above dirty politics would be wholly inaccurate, obviously. But to say the Obama is above getting in the mud with the best of them is inaccurate too. Obama has used lobbyists, he has used attack ads. I don’t know how you can have such a high-and-mighty attitude.
Noone ever said Hillary Clinton was a saint nor did she ever make that claim. However, Obama did. He is running on a platform of CHANGE from oldstyle down and dirty politics. His campaign began with the dirty politics and Clinton came right back at him. I certainly do not fault her on that.
Obama is a lying hypocrit. And I am certain that the MSM fawing over him, and their subsequent media bias, was the tipping factor on Super Tuesday. She WOULD have mopped the floor with him and the rest of the rest would have been downhill. However, her campaign was taken by surprise by the low down politics Obama and his minions were capable of playing as well as the mainstream media’s overt bias. The media does have the power to create and perpetuate propoganda and influence people’s choices. Mayber her biggest mistake was not sucking up to them like Obama did.
It’s true that many (or all) people on this site can get overly emotional when talking about the 2008 election. But I would argue that this is an emotional topic and deserves an emotional response. For my part I do feel that Hillary has been treated unfairly, especially on the issue of the popular vote. Obama’s main point when he was ahead in the popular vote but behind in delegates is that the people’s say matters and not elected officials. That changed when he won the delegate count but lost the popular vote (if you believe that Michigan and Florida’s votes should count, which is kind of obvious anyway if you believe in democracy). I voted in Michigan for Hillary and I’m very disappointed that my democratic right is not seen as equally valuable as someone’s from another state, but the fact is that I voted for Hillary, not Obama. If I wanted to vote for Obama I would have voted for ‘Undecided’, because he obviously didn’t think I mattered either.
I’ll vote for McCain in November. But not in a purely emotional response as a rejected voter. I’ll vote for him because a McCain Presidency and a Democratic Senate and House is the best choice for America. Obama has some good ideas and some that are aweful. McCain has some good ideas and some that aren’t. But at least for McCain I can say that the good outweigh’s the bad.
Tom, did you say that with Gore?
Did Bush get delegates from Gore based on exit polls, surveys and disqualified write in ballots?
BTW, no rule or bylaws re: taking name off ballot, that’s voluntary. Uncommitted also is a status (think as strong as another candidate, you don’t mess with)
Tom, tell us how Obama lies and shuns the press for the nerve of asking questions… how many answer versions he gives when he does answer, if your mom would ever let you hang with comparable friends and say nothing or not demand an answer.
You think Bush lied, obfuscates, deflects… wait till your guy gets in. You haven’t seen a thing.
I suggest you hit the Chicago press and talk show archives… where his money comes from… who has been at and left his campaign. Tell me how he chose donations over two Iraq deals (yes, that war he’s against), with guys walking around in the US wanted by interpol for Oil for Food and scamming the Iraq Electricity heads out of gazillions. Oh that plant deal. Wake up.
Look at Chicago and the whole state now… what has he done, what is he doing? Go see how many throats he cut of fellow dems to get where he is. Lastly, if not even Daley or Ryan aspired to president, and they are the machine… how does a young socialist get sent, how much is behind him, who is behind him?
To Regencyg:
Everything you said is true, but the fact that it was said so eloquently by YOU, the youth, the future of this nation, gives me such hope, something that has been severely lacking these last months. I can only wish for you that you, too, will feel hope. You ARE the hope and change that this country needs, and you can and will make it happen, if you continue to state your views as you have here. Thank you for making my day!
You know I was wondering the other day after reading up on Rezko. Obama always expounds how he made the right vote about the war. Maybe it wasn’t because he didn’t believe in the war but because of his ties to the middle east? I know that may sound a bit extreme but it made me think.
Regencyg,
Not many things these days give me hope. If commentary like this can come out of an 18 year old, then you have just made a difference.
Good luck and keep writing and fighting.
The reason Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him.
They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger as his compass in life
They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.
They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
They don’t’ want a candidate that didn’t stand up for the voters of Michigan and Florida.
They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
They don’t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and that preaches hatred and racial views that are cruel and nasty.
They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced.
They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
They don’t want a candidate that has a Muslim father.
They don’t’ want a candidate that can’t win a debate
They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”
They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting
They don’t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.
They don’t’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
He scares them to death.
He is embarrassing.
He is unelectable.
If I may add two more. They don’t want a candidate that:
1) Raves about his opposition to the Iraq war but then misses an important and relevant vote like the Kyle-Lieberman bill. Because he was too busy campaigning….
2) Jockeys for a prestigious appointment as Chair of the Senate Subcommittee on European Afairs yet calls not one meeting. Not one. A critically important committee with influence over issues like Nato in Afghanistan and Iraq and European foreign policy..I guess he was too busy campaigning.
You tube video of Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader supporting Obama in Chicago with 20,000 members.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7QUftErt_M
I am writing on behalf of my community to inform you of how angry we are about the primary process this year. As a woman, a Democrat and a firm supporter of Democracy, this has been the worst media coverage of a primary election ever.
Also, I am totally embarrassed of Senator Obama for his morals, his associates and his views of the United States.
I have never seen such poor and biased reporting by media in my entire life.. 20 million Clinton supporters have had it with the media and injustice of this whole primary nominating system. This was not reporting, it was “Clinton” bashing. I felt like I was hearing headlines from he “Enquirer”newspaper.
Abuse towards Senator Clinton was daily and all day long. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Cafferty Files, CNN and slews of others networks followed each other down a lane of inaccurate reporting and vicious attacks against the entire Clinton family. The coverage swayed the public and government superdelegates into their sleazy “Obama Mania” corner.
For the first in my life, I am completely embarrassed of our country’s reporting tactics and the unfair judgment of the Democratic party. The pundits were cruel towards our First Lady and the entire world watched.
I also cannot understand how Obama could not be embarrassed of himself. How dare he ask the American people to stand with him and defend his ugly beliefs from his church (Trinity United Church of Christ), his radical and anti Semitic friends and his far left views of life.
How dare Senator Obama not apologize to Senator Clinton for the cruel remarks screamed in pews about whites, Senator Clinton and President Clinton. Instead of apologizing Obama had regrets about having to distance himself from his church and his low life buddies and mentors, Reverend Wright and Father Pflaeger.
Obama has deceived the American people and has used crooked tactics since the beginning of the primary season. He kept his father’s Muslim heritage, Reverend Wright, William Ayers, Tony Rezko and Trinity United Church of Christ under lock and key.
The audacity of Senator Obama to avoid conversations since the first primary about these associates is to say the least disturbing.
Obama kept Michigan and Florida delegates in his pocket the whole time to sway voters and superdelgates, to give himself bragging rights. “I have the most delegates. I am the winner! We have to follow the rules. Florida and Michigan will vote for me.”
Over 300 delegate and over 2 million people. He only won this primary because the fourth largest state has never been heard properly. The popular vote was ignored and the delegates were never added in full. The media displayed inaccurate maps with incorrect numbers to give Obama a free push.
For Senator Obama to accept this decision about not seating Florida and Michigan is especially troubling. How can a leader whose message is one of “unity” agree to support a decision that strips Senator Clinton of delegates and Florida voters of their voices?
I wonder whether the price the Democratic party will pay in the general election was worth Obama’s very poor decision to ignore Michigan and Florida voters. Millions don’t think so.
There are also blocs of voters that Democrats need to win that Senator Obama is having a major problem with:
White Male Voters
White Women Voters
Catholic
Rust Belt Voters
Women Voters
Latino Voters
Cuban Voters
Swing State Voters
Jewish Voters
Big states
Lunch Bucket Voters
Older voters
Catholic Voters
Ohio, Michigan, Florida, California, NY, NJ, Pennsylvania, Indian, West Virginia, Texas and Kentucky are out of his reach
Michigan and Florida will never forget his decision not to fight for them
Barak Hussein Obama has African Americans and elitist in his pocket. Doesn’t sound like a winning ticket to me.
This is the first time in my life, along with my entire community, that I will be voting for a Republican or as an Independent.
Senator Clinton does not need Obama. Obama needs Clinton. I pray that she will not accept a VP role if he offered the position. Obama is a complete embarrassment to this country as a potential candidate for the President of the United States.
I am not trying to smear Senator Obama. As a Democrat, we should have won this election. Because we are supporting the weakest of candidates, I doubt very much this will happen.
I would hope that the DNC would wake up to the abuse that Senator Clinton endured from the media. This has been an unfair primary and Clinton supporters and most of Americans are well aware of all of it.
Where was the DNC?
Exactly NJ very valid points. Not sure what DNC is thinking. They think they get it but they don’t. My entire family that lives in Ohio and many other states will not vote for Obama/Marxist.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA/MARXIST
MCCAIN 2008 or until Hillary rises
CHECK THIS OUT!!! Is all over net & even in UK. Louisiana state officials investigating voter registation fraud by group..VIP,,hired by Dems. Read up on the Voice Is Power group…they are a 2 million+ Muslim group and one site said radical. This is the DNC & Obama people!
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pol/717667114.html
Help unseat Howard Dean now!
Thank you for such an beautiful, well written article. It is exactly how I feel. We have to vote straight republican this year except for those democrats who stood behind Hillary Clinton. We have to rid our party of the corruption that has taken over. We will pay dearly if we leave them in power. I don’t fear republicans as much as I fear the democratic party right now. Obama and Dean are moving the DNC to Chicago. My God, Obama is now calling the shots? I have been a life long democrat but I believe the democratic party is dead for now. There might be hope if the superdelegates come out of their stupor and vote Hillary in as our nominee but if not, vote straight republican with the exception of those supers who stayed true to Hillary. Don’t bother quoting anything from television news broadcasts, Time Magazine, Newsweek Magazine or any newspapers. Murdoch, Mellenscaife and Soros have been dictating through all the news outlets who our nominee would be all along. Many people were just too lazy to find the answers on their own by their own instinct to investigate a candidate or too blind to see through it.
The news media is doing what Stalin did, brainwashing the people. Repeat it often enough and deny often enough and people will finally start to question their own legitimate thoughts. Did you know that the Bin Laden Family owns a large stake in CNN?
One last comment. Has anyone ever heard of a candidate running for the POTUS using phone banks from another country before? Hamas in Gaza has been manning phone banks for Obama for some time now. This is truly a bad omen. Do not elect this fraud.
This is a very well written article that echoes my sentiments exactly. I will admit that Hillary could have run a better campaign. She did make some mistakes, but I also think she was absolutely brilliant at times. She really did get knocked around by the press. What about, was it Keith Olbermann, the journalist who said he wanted to take Hillary into a room and be the only one who comes out? Why didn’t anybody really comment on that? The images that that comment evoked were truly terrifying. Was this guy talking about raping Hillary, hurting her, killing her, what?? As far as I’m concerned, he should have been brought up on charges for threatening assault. But nothing happened to him. You Obama supporters can’t sit there and tell me what that journalist said was justified. If you do, then you condone violence.
Yes, Bill Clinton stuck his foot in his mouth several times, but he was completely villified by the press. That fairy tale comment he made had absolutely no racist undertones whatsoever. But the press had to completely blow it out of proportion and turn Bill into a monster. I’ll say it again, Obama supporters, when Bill Clinton was in office, the ecomony was thriving. We could all afford to go on vacation. Our 401 K’s were actually making money. So he had an affair and lied on the stand. But when Bill lied, nobody died. Read the bumper stickers! I would think people would scramble to elect Hillary so we could get back to that wonderful, thriving economy we had under Bill. But no, all the poeple voting for Obama are too young to remember that. They were children then. All they can see is that 2 Clintons would equal dynasty. So what if it is a dynasty, if we can get back that same progress we had under Bill? And what about the fact that if Hillary ever got into a bind, she can turn to Bill, who’s been there and done that? What if Obama gets into a bind? Who’s he going to call? Bill Ayers, Rezko, Jeremiah Wright? And get into a bind he will! What’s going to happen when he comes into contact with Osama Bin Laden? Logic tells us that we’re much safer all around with Hillary. I can’t believe the way Obama has brainwashed people. It’s very reminiscent of Hitler and Nazi Germany. Look at his pictures you see all over the place. They make him positively angelic with light shining all around him. That’s all for control and manipulation, too. They’re trying t0 manipulate people into voting for him by evoking angelic, messianistic images. His entire campaign, and the thought of his presidency really scare me. He’s going to lead us into the next great depression with his complete and utte lack of understanding of econonic policy. I mean, look at his plans. They don’t make any sense. He’ll get us blown right off the map by the terrorists because he has absolutely no understanding of foreign policy.
And you know, if we let things keep going as they are, he WILL win the election. He and his gang rigged the caucuses to get the nomination. He’ll rig the election, too. So then we’ll have 3 rigged elections in a row! First from the Republicans, and now from the party that we never thought would stoop that low and be that dishonest.
I sent an email to the DNC and told them I’m leaving the party because they betrayed me, because they treated a fine public servant who’s bled and sweated for this country like a monster, and shoved a criminal like Obama down my throat. I also emailed Hillary’s campaign and told her it’s Hillary or nothing, and to run as a third party candidate. Then I emailed John McCain’s campaign and told them to have him pick Joe Lieberman as his running mate. That will attract many democrats to vote for him, as Lieberman is still, essentially, a democrat. We’ll see if any of those emails gets read.
Wonderful article…!
We, youth for Hillary, must show Hillary also has youth, not only women and men…
Many young people are pro-Obama, we must show there also are youth who lost their minds with that man (Obama).
I and otherr youth propose to create a new group of young bloggers: Men and women for Hillary are doing a great work for Hillary but we can also help them…
For info, contact me via e-mail!
thanks! bye
I am writing on behalf of my community to inform you of how angry we are about the primary process this year. As a woman, a Democrat and a firm supporter of Democracy, this has been the worst media coverage of a primary election ever. Senator Clinton was mocked daily and the world watched.
I have never seen such poor and biased reporting by media in my entire life.. 20 million Clinton supporters have had it with the media and injustice of this whole primary nominating system. This was not reporting, it was “Clinton” bashing. I felt like I was hearing headlines from the “Enquirer” tabloid newspaper.
It was daily and all day long. ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, Cafferty Files, CNN and slews of others networks followed each other down a lane of inaccurate reporting and vicious attacks against the entire Clinton family.
Cafferty files a segment of CNN went so far as to read a belittling question about Senator Clinton and then Jack Cafferty would cherry pick his blogs with vicious answers. This was done twice daily. The questions were sarcastic, rude and nasty most all of the time. This coverage misrepresented Senator Clinton and undoubtedly swayed the public into a dislike of our former first lady. For CNN to state that they are “the best political team on television” only reinforced Mr. Cafferty’s biased views of hatred towards Senator Clinton.
For the first in my life, I am completely embarrassed of our country’s reporting tactics and the unfair judgment of the Democratic Party towards a woman, our First Lady.
I also cannot understand how Obama could not be embarrassed of himself.
How dare Senator Obama not apologize to Senator Clinton for the cruel remarks screamed in pews about whites, Senator Clinton and President Clinton. Instead of apologizing Obama had regrets about having to distance himself from his church and his low life buddies and mentors, Reverend Wright and Father Pflaeger.
This is the first time in my life, along with my entire community, that I will be voting for a Republican or as an Independent.
Senator Clinton does not need Obama. Obama needs Clinton. I pray that she will not accept a VP role if he offered the position. Obama is a complete embarrassment to this country as a potential candidate for the President of the United States.
I would hope that the DNC would wake up to the abuse that Senator Clinton endured from the media. This has been an unfair primary and Clinton supporters and most of Americans are well aware of all of it.
Northwest Rain: Your comments racist and immature comments are not worthy of your support of Hillary. Nothing else need be said to you.
Others:
1. If she cannot manage her own campaign, how will she manage the White House and her staff there? She could not control all the backstabbing that went on. I don’t suggest that managing the campaign qualifies you for President. I do believe, however, that if you can’t even manage your own campaign, you are very likely to fail in managing the presidency. She could not make the hard decisions to get her staff inline until it was too late. That speaks volumes.
2. The media spent several weeks of non-stop headline news time on Reverend Wright. HC did get some bad press, but so did Obama. It just kept going on and on and on.
3. Some of you wax eloquently about Bill Clinton’s term. Sorry, maybe I was mistaken, but I thought HC was running, not Bill? It is demeaning to her to imply you are voting for her because of Bill. She is not Bill and won’t govern like Bill.
4. Have any of you heard about Marc Rich? You should read about it because it might give you pause about the ethics of the Clintons. He was a tax evader who fled the country to Switzerland to avoid going to jail. Did you know he was pardoned by Bill right before he left office? Did you know that his then wife Denise met with Hillary weeks before the pardon? Did you know that Denise, after the pardon, donated $70,000 to Hillary’s senate campaign? Did you know that Denise also donated $450,000 to Bill Clinton’s Presidential Library? So for all you HC supporters, what do you have to say about that? And why won’t Bill Clinton release the list of donor’s to the Presidential library? Might there be other skeletons in the Clinton Presidential library closet?
5. Regarding Michigan: Sorry, but you can’t argue that the only fair way to count Michigan is based on what the voters wanted, and ignore the fact that BO was not on the ballot. He, like all the other major candidates except HC, pulled their names. It is likely that many of the uncommitted votes would have voted for him. It is also just as likely that some of the votes for HC would have gone to him. People who might prefer BO, might have opted for their second choice if he were not on the ballot.
6. You can slam BO for relying on the super delegates to push himself over the top. But please don’t be disingenous about it. The fact is that HC was assuming the same thing. She assumed she only need campaign until Super Tuesday and it would be over, with the help of the Super Delegates who would swarm to her side.
7. Lastly, no one has said a word (maybe I missed it) regarding her vote for the war. What kind of political calcuation does that show about her? I don’t think anyone can argue that she voted to support Bush TO SHOW SHE WAS tough. It was a vote made in anticipation of running for the presidency. It helped lead to the current situation with thousands of US soldiers dead, 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqis dead, and probably trillions of wasted US taxpayer dollars. How do HC supporters rationalize around that?