The Question Remains How?
By Charles Lemos on June 14, 2008 at 10:35 AM in Barack Obama, Code Pink, Cult, Cult-Aide, Lobbyists, Messiah, Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers
All fine and good to have noble aspirations but have Obama’s supporters looked at his lack of accomplishments? There is no there. Have you thought about the how? Change is hard work. It is not a series of platitudes. As Joel Stein of the Los Angeles Times noted, “we know that we are being fooled, but we kind of like it.” Funny stuff. Your enjoyment of deception risks my world.
When I see a video like this that touts a messianic “We Are The Ones” message, I worry because I yet to see a messiah deliver. To me, I see a cult of wanna-be day dream believers, not tempered by the reality of the world as it exists.
If only you ever visited the trenches, you would see that it takes hard work and experience, a knowledge of policy alternatives, a dedication to see a project through its completion through pratfalls and disappointments. You are asking to me to take a chance a something “new and different”. Frankly, I have seen this all before.
Politics has real life consequences and for Obama supporters to project the change they want to see on a man who has yet to deliver an ounce of change is frankly delusional. Have you asked yourselves why radicals like Jodie Evans and William Ayers find cause to hope in Obama? How does that vision of America square with yours? Are they compatible? Like you, they see what they want to see in Obama. So do Rashid Khalid and Congressman Robert Wexler. One of them is bound to be disappointed because their agendas are radically different. Again, that’s cult-like behaivour to see only your projections, an innocence that tomorrow belongs to you when the reality might be far different than your starry eyed empty glazes of adoration. The question they should be asking is how is he going to do this? And what point do his flaws become self-evident?
Obama has been very coy in trying to be all things to all people and in the first video, people hold noble visions without ever thinking that Obama has not exactly been an agent of change. His record is sparse but there are some indications. Please tell me how voting for the Bush-Cheney Energy Policy is something “new and different.” Please tell me how telling the voting public that he doesn’t accept contributions from Washington lobbyist and then takes contributions from others in the same firms who either are not registered lobbyists or work in a state capital is “new and different.” And then there are questions of judgment galore. The Reverend Wright is not off the table. But you insist on seeing what you want to see. We see a different Obama.
Setting realistic expectations is the first responsibility of responsible leadership. And when one witnesses before one’s very eyes an usurpation of power in an unyielding quest for more and more control, I worry. Now he wants to nominated by acclamation. What is he an Emperor? Is this a Greek tragedy or a Roman farce? I have seen this all before. History is littered with Obama. Authoritarianism has many faces and even well-meaning autocrats trample their opposition. I don’t do benevolent dictators. That’s not the American way. Sorry I must JUST SAY NO DEAL.
There are more of us than you think. And while you wax poetic notions, we will be exposing Obama for who he really is, a danger and a fraud.
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When did this become a John McCain blog? Get it through your thick skulls, Hillary lost. She endorsed Obama. She said that the goal of the party is to DEFEAT John McCain. For a site that claims to be blasting the cult of personality, your devotion to Hillary is the very definition of cult of personality. She lost. Nothing is going to change that result. She lost. She lost. She lost. She lost. Deal with it.
This blog is for anyone who does not believe in Nobama Nation Idgit! You are a disconnect like your name says.
NOBAMA
When did this become a John McCain blog?
No Hillary can still be the nominee once the
Brzezinski/Trilateralist/Ford Foundation people power coup, the Obama chant is revealed for the cess pool of criminality and racism that it is.
Funny but I don’t see a John McCain Diary, do you?
It hasn’t been, moron. That post said nothing about McCain. It just talked about how wrong Obama is for the nation. That doesn’t mean everyone here will vote for McCain. But it does mean that most non-troll visitors will NOT be voting for Barry come November. Some will vote for Mac, some will support and campaign for Mac, some will vote Green, and some will stay home. But, together, we can all make your boy lose, and that is all that matters.
It’s not, but if you need to believe your lil trolls works, you should.
And make decisions accordingly, you are BRILLIANT.
(Mommar of Iran, here, I may be changing names throughout the day, it’s an artistic urge, sorry)
WHEN HILLARY HAD THE NOMINATION STOLEN FROM HERE… STUPID PERSON
Loud and clear enough for you stupid person.
Hillary does not own me or my vote…..
When will Obama flip off John McCain? Hillary was the leader I chose! Now Iam a stanch John McCain supporter!
My wish list 1)new supreme court, force out liberals!
2)new speaker of the house “too much to the far left, ego centric”
Well said Charles.
I would describe ” Off the table Pelosi” as just one more meatball.
When the lines of political expediency and constitutional obligations are intentionally blurred, then no one will or can be held accountable. That is not “the democracy I knew”.
For some reason my sane half reads the commentary on MSM blogs and Obama supporters would make a salifist* jealous. No longer, if you support Obama, are we as individual citizens required, in fact obligated to inform our selves as to the facts and merits of a candidate’s qualifications for POTUS. Anti-intellectual minimalism is front and center in this “selection” cycle. All the short circuiting methods by Obama will NOT get him elected. It will expose him for what he is. An immoral human being that has never trusted himself to be honest long enough to realize he will never find redemtion in the misery he creates.
*(salifist” or “salafist” is a term used by radical Islamists. to denote a person who believes in the fundamental beliefs of Mohammad)
This is a blog for independent thinkers. That excludes the obama followers.
EXCUSE ME? Hillary hasn’t lost anything. No nominee has been chosen. No nominee will be chosen until August. No nominee will be chosen in August UNTIL THE DELEGATES CAST THEIR VOTES. Are you really this stupid?
Of course you are. You support Obamarhoid…who isn’t the nominee until the Delegates say he is in August at the convention. DEAL WITH IT.
Hillary LOST. The delegates are not going to install Hillary as the nominee in August. It’s not going to happend. Hillary endorsed Obama, for crying out loud.
Hillary “suspended” her campaign and can still be the nominee should Obamarhoid’s campaign implode before August….for crying out loud. Anything can happen between now and August. 2 months is a LONG time in politics. Things can and do happen.
She hasn’t released her delegates, get with th program. Politics is not for beginners, you or Barky.
it’s a long long road to the convention for Obama
and many SDs are quite unhappy about the assets of the DNC being handed to Obama and dirty chicago politics on a platter
It’s really only been a week since that revelation.. let’s see what it looks like in 3 mores as the reality that the democratic party in its corruption has turned themselves into the OBAMA PARTY.
I think a lot of “real” democrats are going to have real problems stomaching that
do you think that if you keep saying hillary lost enough times, it will somehow make all of us vote for Uhhbama?
this is the result of the primary your candidate ran in his quest to win/steal the nomination.
you have what you thought you wanted but the way you got here ensures he will lose in November. you need to get used to that.
And that’s the cold hard truth. The Obamabots didn’t give a shit what Obama or they did to cause this, so now they can learn RESPONSIBILITY.
I think Obama lovers need to deal with the reality that he’s going to lose a large share of Hillary supporters. I’m guessing 30%.
You deal with that. You need to get busy and make sure you get those college kids out to vote. They have a way of forgetting to do so.
Even then, you’re going to end up right back where you started from in terms of party size. So he needs to win those swing states the hard way.
Oh wow……look, he’s tanking still in FL, MI, NC, Nevada. He’s tied in NM, barely ahead in CO.
Not to worry. He looks solid in NY still.
If the prospect of losing 30% of the cultist religion that is Hill supporters is what soothes you and helps you sleep at night then good for you. We all know you all await August for the resurrection from the dead of your candidate, because after all she is a miracle worker. In Hill we trust, In the name of the mother, daughter and Holy Hill!!! How many of you will be at the tomb of resurrection in Denver with your Hill cross’s, on your knees praying for your redeemer to save you from the evil one.
Geez what a bunch Jonesian Mutants you are. But hey Hill bless you.
LOL…I think what worries me is that someone who visits this board regularly is going to get so ginned up that they’ll do something stupid and violent. And when the FBI investigates said person after their violent act, they’ll discover their love of NoQuarter. Nah, maybe Jim Jones isn’t the right analogy. There’s something rather Timothy McVeigh/Turner Diaries about all of this. Larry Johnson should be ashamed of himself.
Says the moron whose messiah campaign is the one tossing death threats at people.
Riiiight. Obama’s campaign is making death threats.
I don’t suppose you can, you know, back that up with anything…
Yup, there was a diary a couple of days ago. But you wouldn’t read it anyhow.
Oh, I did. What I saw was ignorance, blaming Obama for anything that someone claims to be doing in his name.
And yet every time someone throws a racist slur at him, you guys are all over making excuses for it – “Oh, that’s just an ‘obamabot’ causing trouble”. If you’re going to blame him for his supporters, make damn sure you blame Hillary for hers.
They’ve already been posted.
Google is your best friend, really.
No wonder people so much contempt for you, you’re a MORON.
Just so you know? Insults are a waste of your time. They only weaken you.
Grow up.
We don’t have to do that — the Obama camp and the MSM have already blamed Hillary for every comment that was ever uttered by anyone anywhere that was not deliriously, rapturously favorable to The Precious One.
And if no one during a particular news cycle said anything unfavorable to him that they could blame Hillary for, they just twisted someone’s words and created something to report.
Are you really an Obama troll or a McCain troll making sure we don’t forget what a sexist ass Obama is? If the latter, you’re preaching to the choir, but good job. I look forward to witnessing that tremendously humiliating and embarrassing ass-kicking McCain is going to hand Obama this fall. There is no one who deserves it more than Barrack Obama.
Right, it’s different when you do it. But not anyone else, oh, no. You’re not responsible, right? Only others are.
It doesn’t matter what you think of Obama any more, since you’re so far gone that you’ll actually say that only HE has to account for every one of his supporters.
Why should he not be held to the same standard he and the MSM applied to Hillary? Just because he’s unqualified and unelectable, he shouldn’t be completely off the hook on everything.
You’ve answered your own question: you refuse to hold Hillary to the standards you try to impose on him, so why the ever-loving hell should he feel obligated to you?
Steve Corbett, an unwavering Clinton supporter who broadcasts at WILK radio in PA, received a death threat, routed through the Obama campaign website.
You dared call bullshit on me?
http://wizbangblue.com/2008/02/23/obama-supporters-issue-death-threats-against-critic.php
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/black_hillary_supporters_may_b.html
http://wilknetwork.com/-We-Will-Kill-You-/2365403
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_death_threats/2008/04/15/88034.html
And YES, a campaign DOES include supporters. These are the types of supporters who’re out there stacking the caucuses, robocalling/pushpolling, pressuring and DOING things for the campaign, so yes, it’s the Obama campaign.
You assholes are SO classy for threatening a respected black figure, a reporter who was REPORTING what Obama said (G-d forbid the world knows what kind of asshole Obama is), a radio host and Hillary supporters.
Kindly fuck off and die in 3D now.
No, the supporters are NOT part of the campaign. See, that was the bullshit I’m calling you on now.
Or does Hillary’s campaign encompass the racist assholes throwing slurs at Obama and his family? If you think you’re correct, then you’d better own the racism and threats directed at Obama.
(Here’s where it suddenly becomes ‘different’, right?)
To address your last point, why don’t you go fornicate with a meat grinder?
Ah, your feeling it huh?
How the hell are you going to function in a first world society, with third world talent?
poor things…
Yep, it’s “different”, right?
Own your own shame. Tend the beam in your own eye.
Again, why should Obama not be held to the same standard he applied to Hillary? Everytime anyone anywhere said something even remotely derogatory (although usually true) about him, the whiny little crybaby held Hillary personally responsible. What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the unelectable, unqualified little gander.
Oooh, the ad-hominem attacks there *really* make your arguments convincing.
Yes, they do. Really.
When you hold anyone else responsible like you’re trying to do to Obama, we can talk.
oh no not the good old fall back race card again.
OH MY GOD WHAT SHALL WE DO!!!
WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS TROT OUT THE RACE CARD!!!
I haven’t accused any one of you of being racist.
But if you’re going to make one candidate responsible for all his supporters you’re going to do that for all of them.
Exactly. So why is Obama once again trying to weasel out and not have the same standards apply to him? It’s really quite unattractive of him to continue whining about Hillary after the point he says he has won. Is he that insecure?
Depends. Why are you demanding he take responsibility for all his ’supporters’ but not demanding that of anybody else?
Depends? You are all ready for the Obama “CRAP CANNON”?
I demand the truth. BO is incapable of speaking this and will loose because of it.
My My. You are such a “low spark”.
No, no. If you supported the truth you’d be speaking it occasionally.
BO is immoral.
That is a true statement.
‘Immoral’ is an opinion.
IMO, your immorality far surpasses.
It’s got more to back it up than does Obama’s claim he’ll protect a woman’s right to choose.
Instead of coming on here making baseless accusations, don’t you really think you should be out there registering people to vote. Are you running short of dimwits who are stupid enough to think Obama should be President?
Better get moving, Acadian/Disconnect/McBush. I know you’re just one little troll (with multiple user names), but there’s really not much time left before that horrendous and terribly embarrassing and humiliating ass-kicking McCain is going to give Obama this fall. You’re wasting time on here; we’re not susceptible to Obamaborg propaganda.
“Baseless accusations.” Heh.
All this crap about Obama and death threats, and I’M being baseless. You’re spouting your ignorance about sockpuppets, and I’M being baseless.
Riiiight. We could make a little bet, but you’d never honour it anyway.
Too bad, lil toon, you look silly.
Oh, reality is such a problem for you, and this is the point where your lil troll program goes SPLAT!
Not that you’d admit it, perhaps when Obama takes office, you can bomb another innocent third world country.
He intends to DECORATE!
Heh.
I would never bet with an Obamabutt, because I figure your word is worth just as much as that of your Messiah. Did he keep his word to the Maytag workers, or did he sell out to the plant’s owners? Did the keep his word about the legislation to regulate Exelon, or did he sell out to Exelon? Did he protect a women’s right to choose or did he vote “present.”
Is he going to use public financing for his campaign in the GE, or did he lie about that too?
How many new voters have you registered? To meet that goal of twenty-nine million gazillion, which is what is needed to get that tremendously embarrassing and humiliating ass-kicking McCain is going to give him down to a merely soul-sucking and life-destroying defeat, you need to get to work.
Wow. Just wow. You guys and girls are so blinkered, so single-minded to the exclusion of reason, that there’s just no reaching you.
Knock yourselves out, make some more accusations and then run from them. Google may be my friend, but he’s no friend of yours.
Don’t worry. After this fall, when Obama receives that totally humiliating ass-kicking, the Precious one will still be there for you. Look how loyal he’s always been to the people who helped him — Alice Palmer, for example, oh, bad example. Jeremiah Wright, oh, also bad. Wait, I’m thinking. Surely he’s been loyal to someone. His grandmother? No. Well, maybe you can use your special friend Google and find somebody. Or else join all the others under the bus. Bon voyage, and avoid those wheels.
Thanks for underscoring my point. Really, I couldn’t make you look more partisan and blind than you do.
Hi, hypocrite.
how about Wilder, Jackson Jr promising riots and blood in the streets? who is writing blogs about property damage being acceptable. Wasnt that Nicky G, Uhhbamas appointee to Treasury in Chicago?
who is recreate68? who has the advisers and 20 + year associates that blew up bombs in the pentagon and nypd hq and used stolen credit card info to rob and KILL people? yeah your candidate
stop making threats and judgements about everybody else
but dont even try to appear serious about calling our canidate, or our group of supporters upstarts with a bad temper, not when YOUR CANDIDATE and HIS SUPPORTERS are the ones who THREATENED the lives of Tavis Smiley and his family, shot at HRC NC offices with air rifles, damaged peoples cars, shouted obscenities at HRC duporters o the streets, posted HRC bloggers their personal information, called employers of HRC supporter trying to get the fired, John Lewis arm practically broken to make him switch and CBC members supporting HRC threatened harrassed booed, and finally to wrap up your happy celebration, Hillary acknowledging the del lead ONLY b/c YOUR CANDIDATE THREATENED to run people against her supporters in NY and she has loyalty and honor-Your candidates ENTIRE CAMPAIGN was run on threatening, intimidation and thuggery in caucuses and their are websites dedicated to the collection of evidence of thee incidents,
so get real, you are half way there, right? so be happy, go sing Bobby McFarrin songs together :0)
LOL!!
go to your Uhhbama blog and revel in the glory of being presumptive nominee, I dont know why so many of you seem so unhappy and obsessed frankly, with what we HRC supporters choose to do now if you think we are so unimportant in your grand plan..
we will manage to get by without you, really, you said you would be fine without us, so go be fine and happy, wish you well.
there is a man named John McCain who has asked us to help him and many of us are happy to do so..
I have to go so I cant listen to your witty reply, sorry, I am getting my questions ready for our teleconference with Senator McCain this afternoon! We are going to go help him campaign in the mountain states to make sure you lose in November :0)
How odd you should say that since it was on Obama’s blog where his juvenile scum fans were posting violence and death towards Hillary and NOBODY from the Obama camp did ANYTHING to stop it.
Obama only scrubs the controversial on his website WHEN the other blogs report it.
Clearly they have NO principles only the fear of being exposed.
Where was Acadian when Hillary and Bill Clinton were being threatened? Why isn’t Acadian posting on pro-Obama blogs telling them to stop being partisan and blind.
Unify or else, eh Sweetie?
I certainly believe that the election is over for Hillary. At this point, I support the grass-roots groups because I want the issues clear and on the table and not swept away. Pelosi isn’t the only person who can get a message out. So can we.
And WHEN you lose in November, I want you all to remember exactly why. You blew it with huge groups within the party. You insulted working class people up the yin-yang. You insulted the majority of women voters in the party. You shoved Latinos aside in caucuses and treated them badly in states that we need to win.
YOUR Obama tactics is why you’re going to lose.
Hillary is out of the game for this time. She wouldn’t want to win based on some horrible situation that damages the party or the country.
She’s convinced that he’s unelectable. She made her case. The innner circle wanted her out. They won.
But we all watched closely, and we now don’t even respect the Democratic Party in general, nevermind the presumptive nominee.
You blew it.
Agreed, but these Obamaturds are too obtuse to understand facts. I suspect most of them at some point will realize their mistake and wonder to themselves wtf were they thinking. That’s exactly the problem: they don’t think…they allow themselves to act on emotion without any rationalizing or historic perspective.
Exactly. To be honest I don’t see how Hillary can get back to being the nomination (particularly because if she does, Obama supporters will then cry foul because they already think Obama HAS been nominated *rolls eyes*).
But to be honest, this whole race has been a shambles. There are so many little twists and turns, bad decisions, mud-slinging, back-stabbing and major influence from the media. It’s just a mess. And I blame the DNC for it all. The only problem is, they will never admit they did anything wrong.
I wouldn’t blame Hillary if she told the DNC ‘bye bye’ forever. She’s infinitely better than them.
I DO hope Bill and Hillary have “other plans” than to campaign for Obama in the fall. After he and Clyburn implied they were racists, I really think the Clintons should JUST SAY NO.
Let Obama win on his own. Clyburn and Jackson and Brazille and Conyers can campaign for him.
I agree, too,but I truly think the fix is in for Obama, and really, his people are just as horrific as McCain’s’, so no real loss, here, at all.
She doesn’t have to win for him to lose. And. All it takes is for the impact to be as few as 5,000 votes in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Florida, Michigan. How likely do you think it is that he’s going to come CLOSE in those states? Wake up and smell the starbucks, boyz. He’s goin’ down.
Wow…good point. It can be lost by a smidge.
Same result
And people don’t even have to vote McCain to make sure he loses, beebop.
Just stay home, or leave the top of the ticket blank.
Lotta “Appalachians” have had enough of being called bitter, clingy, ingnorant hillbillies.
He may have lost 3 crucial states just by that gaffe alone. (MO, PA, OH)
The ones willing to drink the Jonesian Cult Aid are kneeling before the Obamessiah. We aren’t praying for any resurrection, we are fighting to expose the fraud you call a candidate.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Oh, yes. Those ever-dedicated, gullible college kids.
“…young people do not understand the ideals of citizenship, they are disengaged from the political process, they lack the knowledge necessary for effective self-government, and their appreciation and support of American democracy is limited.”
From “The Dumbest Generation,” by Mark Bauerlein.
The oft-repeated assertion that Obama has succeeded in bringing these kids into the political process is a complete fiction. They, in fact, have no understanding of or use for “the process,” or our system of government. That’s why they love Mr. Cool. Haven’t you heard? He is going to CHANGE everything!
He won’t. Because he can’t. Our system works deliberatively by design. The Founding Fathers were wary of “change”–that’s why they set up three branches of government, and believed so strongly in the wisdom of checks and balances.
Barry’s meteoric rise in politics is frightening. Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, et al. tried to protect us from the likes of Barack Obama. Unfortunately, they were counting on an informed electorate.
And, in 2008, there’s the rub. God save us from Obama’s herd-mentality college crowd. Clearly they’ve failed to progress beyond the infantile love of shiny objects.
This is something I’ve tried to point out to Obama supporters for so long! Obviously there will be some of his supporters who actually do believe in him as a politician, but I firmly believe that the majority of people support him because he’s “cool”.
Obama isn’t a politician anymore (actually, was he ever?)… he’s a celebrity. I’m sure Oprah helped, but remember, celebrities are cool!
BTW, before anyone tries to slam me for patronising young people… I’m 22 myself. While I do indulge in a lot of ‘cool’ things, politics & the running of a country is something way too important to be turned into a popularity contest.
Excellent diary!!
At first I thought Che’s pic in Obama’s Texas headquarters was the only case.
But here’s an AP photo of an Ohio judge with pics of Che and Obama in his office.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-06-10-ohio-lethal-injection_N.htm
Che-Che-Che-Change we can believe in?? LOL
Castro must be smiling – Republicans too.
Idiots, with NO CLUE what Obama, or Che stand for…
The best government is our own democracy, it needs to cleaned, though.
Che was a kook, Obama is a kook, the neocons are kooks, a house of loons, top to bottom.
Obama stole the election, that isn’t democracy, Obama has never WON an election.
I’m sure he will be a wonderful President, and the people supporting him, even better, as they feel the American voter is no longer relevant, their judgement superior.
Yeah, it shows in the trolls, fucking brilliant, fucking brillinat.
“What does this mean?”
“Nothing toots, nothing, it’s over your head…’
LOLOLOL
They are beyond reason, they are so fucked up.
Come November Obama is going LOSE! LOSE! LOSE!
Start getting used to it.
He’ll never see the White House but hey thanks to his Chicago past he might get to spend some time in the Big House
Straight Talk is a welcome departure from messianic screeds, from the newest Chicago mega church (the Obama DNC)!
All Aboard!
http://tinyurl.com/5ye7oy
Bonnie Prince Barry was selected not elected.
YEP. He won by the superdelegates.
Remember when the Obamanauts said something like that would be unfair?
They quickly forgot about that, didn’t they? LOL!
Dear moron,
It is not about Hillary. We DO NOT WANT OBAMA! And unlike the lemming-like behavior of Obamabots, we do not follow Hillary without our own independent thought and analysis. Obama is unqualified, hypocritical, deceptive, unqualified, exhibits terrible judgement and lack of character, unqualified, arrogant, and oh yea…unqualified. I know it’s hard to grasp, but foreign and economic policy knowledge and experience are actually important to some of us. Your single-celled devotion to a simplistic marketing package is pathetic. That’s what you all missed: you thought if you just eliminated Hillary, we’d all board the love train–it’s not going to happen.
Why don’t you use your energy trying to convert those “racist and dumb folks” you all ridiculed in key states like Ohio, PA, and West Virginia. Good luck with that.
You mean, that’s why Obama is already winning polls in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and is within two points in Virginia and North Carolina? But go on, keep this nonsense up, if you think this childish footstomping is ultimately going to reflect well on Hillary, guess again.
What polls…and the 527s haven’t even started up yet. Think Rev. Wright ‘Goddamned America’/Pfleger/Michelle(yikes)’for the first time I’m proud of my country’ on an endless loop playing in Middle America, in the south, on the west coast…no we’re just a sliver (albeit the one that will tip the scales) of the problems that Barky has. It’s all about perception. And the republicans know how to frame things in 30 second sound bites. There is no way any Red Blooded American liberal or conservative can watch that and want to vote for barky. There’s a saying in politics. People are more likely to vote against something than vote for something.
Just ignore the obamasnots, if you ignore them they will just go away.
They are trying to distract us from our mission, do not engage them, they are nothing.
Misinformation. Check RCP today. Losing in PA. Losing in NC. Losing in NV. Losing in MI. Losing in FL.
Tied in NM. He’s ahead in MA and NY.
You mean, why would believe information that can be fixed, and not by barry’s boys, this time?
You are without a clue, two can play, you know, you moron.
go look at Dukakis and Kerry polls for a good laugh and insight into the meaning and value of polls at this time…
LOL!!!!
and as for your other assertion, come on!! you will blame Hillary for anything, just like the race card, the ‘blame Hillary’ card was played so many times in the primary it is no longer effective on us..
same for Roe v Wade..
and the funniest thing IMHO is that, we have had to hold our noses for so many years with the LOZER elitist nominees like Dukakis and Kerry that millions of us wont have any trouble holding their nose to vote for a man with an ‘R’ next to his name in November!!
even better, millions of us respect Sen McCain so we wont have to old our nose at all..
LOL!!!
gonna get starbucks and bagels now, it is noon out here and brunch time
catch ya lata Hillfans and Rainmakers for McCain!!
BOOYAH!!!
OMG
Disconnect thinks Obama will win North Carolina and Virginia.
Good GAWD, we have stupid trolls.
Detox, detox, detox! Your bogus candidate of change won a pyrrhic victory having resorted to the worst kind of political thuggery outside Chicago. Ha ha. Start looking for a shrink; you’re in for a major, extended depressive episode.
B.O.W.L. Big Time in November 2008
HRC – 45th POTUS (2012)
right on!!!
BOOYAH!!!
Hillary or McCain 08
Hillary 2012
Go away, punk.
No one cares what your whiney ass thinks. You want to praise your Empty Suit, there are plenty of places you can do that.
If you can’t follow along as to the purpose of this place, it’s not for us to “edumacate” you.
Go back to school, study history. Pay close attention to the rise of fascism, and how willing and naive young tools such as yourself were duped with silly phrases and feelings of “belonging” to support a fucked-up cause with a flawed leader.
Hillary lost. Hillary endorsed Obama. Those facts aren’t going to be changing anytime soon.
And Obama isn’t going to be President anytime soon. Or anytime in the distant future. Or anytime at all. He’s going to receive such a horrendous, tremendously embarrassing and humiliating ass-kicking from McCain this fall, that even Michelle won’t have anything to do with him. He’ll probably end up a political consultant on Fox News, paired with Mike Huckabee.
What is that new pentagon weapon, it sprays shit everywhere, on crowds, to be used in Colorado, or Montana, or something?
Would that be comparable to a troll “googlebomb,” but rather a centcomm shitbomb, sprayed by a pretentious wannabe who HAS NO UNDERSTANDING of how his “shitbomb” (eh, #2?)is used against him?
Shitbomb, it’s the new googlebomb.
Or it always was, just misnamed…
well going with that for a moment how does that affect how we vote in November or hat we choose to discuss on this board??
you cant handle the answer is that it? an endorsement doesnt mean our votes go with it if the person isnt qualified etc ad nauseum we have argued these points for months..
all the “push out” of Hilary has accomplished, that instead of waiting for August, it has freed our wallets and energy to work for McCain, speaking for a few million of us only, LOL!!
we have seen for months how this was a selection not an election, many of us arent hurt anymore many arent just to be labeled pixxed “per say” (disillusioned, disappointed, disenchanted, disgusted still ,yes probably so)but many of us accept this is a dirty backroom deal that was planned for years and we will do what we have to now with the options we have, for our families and our country and ourselves and that is, for many of us, voting for McCain, that is the simple truth for many of us
perhaps “You cant handle the truth!” ?
ahh love that movie
gotta run fer real!
Disconnect, please recite for us, any and all positions of your Messiah.
Convince me he has an original thought or position. Please? With Rezko on top? I promise I will listen.
Good Lord, Disconnect.
You’re STILL babbling about Hillary.
She’s GONE. Obama is on his own, to win or lose, on his own merit.
STOP babbling about Hillary.
If Hillary is out, then those of us who think that Obama is not qualified to be president will have to vote for McCain.
Do you understand that? This blog post isn’t about either McCain or Hillary. It’s about Obama.
In November
when
Ali Hussein Obaba
I mean
Barack Jesus Santos Domina Maria Christos Hallelujiah Baptismo Noseeum NoHearum Nospeakum veni vedi pay for play vinci Obama
loses,
please be sure
to tell yourself
that
he Lost
he Lost
he Lost
repeatedly as you take that overdose of Koolaid and join the rest of the Jamestown Democrats who are commiting political suicide by supporting your hopium and changeujuana messiah.
The day when Obama disappears back into the gutters of dirty chi-town politics can’t come too soon.
Hopefully he takes Donkey Brazilla and Screamin Dean the Disenfranchisement Machine with him.
ROFLOL!!
I think that should read “Jonestown Democrats” if you’re invoking the Guyana tragedy. (If there’s a prominent Obama supporter with the last name of “James” that’s been behind all the shenanigans, I guess I haven’t heard of him/her.)
I was referring to James Clyburn and his I am undeclared but i like to use the race card against Bill CLinton every chance i get as i promote Bacrack Oblowme message.
I shouldn’t have buried that pun into the Jonestown reference since the jonestown reference would have been more clear.
You are right.
“This is not the James Clyburn I knew,” said Obama, as the race-baiting resulted in a landslide loss.
Personally, I will never look at Clyburn the same way again.
Shame, shame, shame, Clyburn.
She didn’t lose — the nomination was stolen. Whether Obama can hold on to it remains to be seen. But we are dealing with it, just not like you Obamabutts want us to.
McCain ‘08. Hillary ‘12. Obama never.
Bug off.
IGNORE THE OBAMASNOTS, DO NOT RESPOND TO THEIR COMMENTS. THEY ARE TRYING TO DISRUPT AND DISTRACT.
About the ad, is anyone keeping a list of the celebrities on it so we can be sure not to buy their records or see their movies, etc?
The new Obama mantra: “You’re either with us or you’re against us.”
Hmm. Where have we heard that language before?
“The new Obama mantra: “You’re either with us or you’re a racist.””
fixed for you.
Excuse me, Jeremiah.
The new word for “racist” is Appalachian.
The MCCain video didn’t bother me but the Obama video PISED ME OFF! Why did Charles Lemos feel the need to give us an Obama video….this is an antiObama site! We don’t come here to see videos on Obama.
It is called a foil. You set out an example of what the other side is pushing and then you attack their argument. Without showing what Obama’s supporters are doing, how can you disapprove it?
There was also nothing about McCain in the post. The last video is from Just Say No Deal, an umbrella group of disaffected Democrats.
So what you’re saying, is: resistance if futile…?
White America Heres A Wake Up Call For You Time To Stand UP
Please View This Video And Pass It Along
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA
Word.
Oh shit.. out come the white sheets, swastikas, and skin heads. A call to arms for all good thinking white people. Let the real nature of NQ come to the fore, David Duke rides again. Let’s stir it up and get it going… WORD!!
Rev. Wright rides again. You racist.
Me?? I’m the racist?? lol lol lol lol. You really have to suspend your disbelief you come to Hill world. OK I want to be accepted here in Hill world too. Here goes:
Hill can still win the nomination
O is sexist
Michelle O is nasty women – the tape the tape
O cheated with a gay (the inference here being it’s ok to cheat but not with a gay!!! gasp!! Because we all know that Bill C is the master of the other woman but all is forgiven there, even OUR Messiah Hill herself forgave him.)
O Can’t win in November
Our votes will bring him down
Phew…. am I missing any???
Love me, accept me… lol lol lol
Racist.
Racist and a race-baiter of the worst kind.
Thanks McBush! When I don’t see the Race Card at least once an hour, I begin to worry about you guys.
Did you watch this video? This Black Preacher is “Dead on Balls Accurate”.
This message is the same one Bill Cosby has been preaching for years, but most blacks ignore.
You’ll never hear Obambi give this sermon about the races. But this is the one more qualified to be elevated to Lincoln and MLK status.
I didn’t bring it up, your buddy strawberry nutcake did!! lol lol
I’m an AA ardent Hillary supporter who will be voting for McCain.
Sorry, Manning is a nutjob. He’s just a flip side of Wright.
And both are part of the Pandora’s Box that this biracial candidate has unleashed on American Society as the result of Obama’s unashamed and unapologetic race-baiting. All done in the name of getting him elected.
Obama is a gutless biracial coward. He has exploited the tragic history of African Americans to which he has no genealogical connection to. The only African Americans he is related to by blood are the little girls he sired.
No true African American would have spawned this kind of racial ugliness and hostility. And look around him, at his inner circle and the people who are doing his bidding, they are practically all white. A great deal of the race-baiting has been done by white Obama supporters.
Blacks have been duped by their desperation and by the many fawning whites that sent them the message that this man of color has a real shot at becoming POTUS. And AAs are simply going for the prize. Most have not apprised themselves of what Obama stands for politically. They only see a man of color. There is so much misinformation about Obama in the AA community it’s insane.
I watched this video and what I don’t understand is why any white person would need to have a black person give them permission not to have ‘white guilt.’ Especially with regard to Obama who is half-white. You all need to CALL HIM ON HIS WHITE HALF.
This is an election. He is a candidate. This is a democracy, the primary feature of which is choice. You have the right to support the candidate of your choice. And you have more than enough solid and good reasons why that candidate is NOT BARACK OBAMA.
Why do you thnk I’m not voting for him?
Hie’s inexperienced. Unqualified. He doesn’t have a command of the issues. HE’S A PROVEN LIAR. He won’t respond to legitimate inquiries. He’s secretive. He race-baits through his supporters and then pretends not to to. He’s a SEXIST PIG! He is connected to all sorts of unsavory types. He claimed to be the candidate of superior judgement, yet everyday his judgement has been called into question.
AND HE’S NOT FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE!
I might as well vote for McCain because I know in 2012, I’ll get it.
My point is there are enough good reasons NOT to vote for Obama without elevating Manning to celebrity status. He’s a whacko. And worse, he has no ideology. He’s just another clergy whore who wants attention.
Stop giving it to him!
You’re AA and not voting for O?? So what!! You act like that gives you some sort of validity or moral position to be just as racist as many (not all) of your NQ buddies. Your ignorance shows. O’s not black enough for you and too black for your buddies. You see his white mother, your counterparts see his African daddy. For shame.
WWHd (What woul Hill do). Say 10 Hail Hillary’s all will be forgiven.
Racist!!!!
Why?? How so?? Strawberry… the epitome of the intricate deep thinking that goes on at NQ. Chuckle.
You hate black people, racist.
LOOOOVE all people. Hate deliberately STUPID people. AKA NQ supporters.
Nice shot on the Catholics too McBush. They hate Barky too. And there are only 75,000,000 of them. Thanks!
Upp I know you’re sharper than that. I’m insulting all of you NQ supporters that have given up your traditional gods, and religion in favor of your new religion THE CHURCH OF HILLARY and the LATTER DAY IDIOTS (i suppose I’m insulting Mormons now… not!) May the Hillary be you.. your reply… And also with you. lol lol
No. Mc. MY Church is the CHURCH OF DEFEAT BARACK OBAMA and his radical friends and supporters.
LOL how did you get out of the COH and LDI (Church of Hill and Latter Day Idiots) lol. But I think the one your in now is same as the above just a different denomination. lol lol Hill be with you.
Damn…..This “McBush” IS an idiot. Ignore his obama-sucking ass…..
You’re full of bullshit. You’ve been responded to repeated by those of us obviously who aren’t on some kind of Hillary or Die tract.
You’ve not once responded to the content.
You’re an Obamabot.
(How am I doing, Uppity?)
*honing my skills here as discernment*
That’s the problem…. I DON’T believe you. And for future reference so you don’t have to repeat yourself: I’m for OBAMA, I’m an OBAMABOT, an OBAMATRON, I drink the kool-aid, etc. etc. etc. And as far as responding to content, NOT TRUE, when there is content (rare indeed). The only things you all are good at is throwing stones… the tape the tape, gay guy gay guy, sexist, rapist, murderer…CONTENT ha what a joke.
I MOSTLY agree with you, but take issue with
And look around him, at his inner circle and the people who are doing his bidding, they are practically all white. A great deal of the race-baiting has been done by white Obama supporters.
The biggest race-baiters have been Jesse Jackson Jr. and Donna Brazile. JJJr. is the co-chair of his national campaign and the same douchebag who whined about Clinton’s tears/”Why didn’t she cry for Katrina victims?” (and I THINK he might’ve been the one to bring up the O.J. reference, too…I don’t remember now, but JJJr. IS the one who tried to strongarmed/guilt-trip the Congressional Black Caucus into voting with their race). Donna Brazile is the one who vilified Bill/forwarded the “omg, he’s racist!” b.s from the fairytale comment, I believe.
I didn’t forget about Jackson Jr. and Brazile. But what about Koz, Huffington, and all the trolls that show up around the Internet and make comments? How about the way the pollsters ask questions about race and then the networks feed it to the public?
Let’s not put all the race-baiting in the laps of Jackson Jr. and Brazile. Obama has had a lot of help from his white supporters. There’s one on this board right now. (Whom I intend to ignore, btw.)
And this is why I say you all need to call him on it! His mother was white, after all. He was raised by his white grandparents. One of you need to ask him : “What’s all this black ideololgy bullshit coming from a man whose mother was white and was raised in a privileged lifestyle far away from the scourge of black urban America?”
All I’m saying is don’t forget about Obama’s white half and the white supporters who are exploitng racism and white guilt in order to get your vote.
Ignore me if you want Mimi, but it’s your conscience talking to you. You would like to BELIEVE I’m white, but you know better, and really doesn’t matter. And btw you won’t get ANY cosigners in your attempt to defend Donna b. (whom I love and NQ hates vociferously) and JJ. You just don’t get it. There is a distince undertone of black resentment on this board. One poster with the name “No Negro For President”. Uppity Woman once referred to AA’s as ingrates for not supporting Hill. RedDragon inferring that the Congressional Black Caucus is an example of reverse discrimination, based solely on the name Congressional Black Caucus. These are your Cohorts???? Your on an island baby girl and I feel for you.
Mimi……it’s disgusting. My heart goes out to AA posters like yourself.
It must worry you endlessly that this will make a difference in relationship.
I personally think it might on the short-term, but not on the long-term.
I think race relations have surpassed this election by miles.
We’re just not there anymore. That was MY parent’s generation. Nevermind my son’s generation’s attitude.
I think it’ll be connected to the personality.
He stirred up the AA base far more than he’s even stirred up white backlash.
He’s responsible.
That Annin, is true in general. However Bill and Hill made sure to stir up the white backlash. No doubt we’ve come a long way, but it doesn’t take much to backslide, as evidenced at this site.
JH: good point.
Yeah Sugar told me he’s a whackjob too.
Gotta love that man!
I have this video on my blog, this man is scary, he has other motives why he wants to be the POTUS and we must never allow that to happen, Hillary supporters need not to be tricked into voting for him under the guise of ‘lets attack the media together’, Obama is at fault for bringing everything that he did not approve of the Clintons to the medias attention. He caused her to fail and he cares nothing about her women, just wants them for their votes.
He “caused her to fail”? You mean by daring to run against her? Hillary isn’t an emperor. She failed to win the pledged delegates (even BEFORE the MI/FL deal). She came close to winning, but she didn’t. Is the fact that last Saturday she endorsed Obama something that you all are just willfully ignoring? You all remind me of the Scots who used to insist that Bonnie Prince Charlie was going to return from exile to save them from the English. Devotion to a candidate is nice, but you guys have gone beyond devoted and are now into batshit crazy, and frankly you seem to be lacking sense and perspective. The US isn’t required to have a President Clinton. She had her chance, and she came up short. That’s reality. Try to deal with reality once in a while.
We’re not required to have an inexperience Obama president either obamabot. Deal with that!
So, when Obama becomes President, I take it that you’ll be taking up arms against the government? Maybe form a militia? Plot your assassination? The Democrats are going to rout the Republicans this fall because the Republicans have no accomplishments to tout and no ideas to run on.
Think again. BO WILL NOT WIN AGAINST McCAIN. What planet do you live on? The GOP is foaming at the mouth to run against Obamarhoid. They have all their Racist Rev. Wright ads, William Ayers ads, Michelle “I hate America” ads, Rezko ads, Auchi ads just ready and waiting. The also have the Michelle “whitey” tape and cannot wait tp run THAT in October. Obamarhoid doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning against the GOP slime machine.
Hell, look at what they did to MAX CLELAND! The man left his limbs in Vietnam and they destroyed him in his reelection campaign, for crying out loud. How about War hero John Kerry (puke)? He was such an easy mark for the Swiftboaters.
Obamarhoid will be lucky to win Illinois (should he be allowed to steal the nomination) in November. The GOP THRIVES on dirty campaigns. They eat this shit for breakfast. Obamarhoid will be a shadow of himself by the time they finish with him and his not-so-charming-wife, Michelle.
He just wanted to get that “plot his assassination” quote in, it’s obviously one of the talking points the Obamessiah gives his trolls. Sorry to tell you douchebag, Larry forwards any direct threats of such violence to the secret service like a true American. Unlike the Obama campaign website that allows such threats against Hillary to stand until an outside website points them out.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Slime machine? As a democrat, I hope they put out nothing but truthful ads regarding Obama – which is radically (pun intended) different than the fantasy persona, created by BO and his handlers. Only brainwashed believers who refuse to look at the facts will be fooled by this plastic messiah. From Savage Politics:
“Another supposed smear that he is now “fighting” against, is the one that deals with the “rumor” that his books somehow contain ‘racially incendiary remarks’. He claims, on his anti-smear site, that his words are “truncated and taken out of context”. Again, in this example, Obama does not present any counter evidence for this “truth” and only provides unsubstantiated misdirection, clearly assuming that the reader should basically believe that others are lying about these issues “because Obama said so”. It is almost as if the Obama campaign knows that most of his site’s visitors have never (and will never) grab one of his own books to find out the truth for themselves.”
I would love — just once — to see an Obama poser tell us one thing that is so sterling about hopey changey okey dokey’s RECORD that would show us any reason to entrust our vote to him. In his own neighborhoods, he allowed his constituents to go without heat and took money from a slum lord to buy his home. Hope you can believe in? Not my kind of hope.
Trolls are like deaf people who go on answering questions that no one has asked them.
RIGHT! PEOPLE DO NOT RESPOND TO THE OBAMASNOT TROLLS’ COMMENTS, THEY WILL GO AWAY IF WE DON’T RESPOND, WE MUST KEEP ON MESSAGE!
And Obama has accomplishments to tout?
Your premise is unacceptable.
Please provide this panel your evidence for making this presumption.
I think the moonie-head meant
new President of Kenya!
Bush had no accomplishments either. They got him elected. Mccain is a moderate with a history of bucking his own party. He appeals to people across the political spectrum. Barky…too far left for the average American.
And what happened to his promise to turn those southern states blue? Wow……McCain is tied with him in Missouri. Look, not a single win in the South going to Obama. Guess he fibbed a bit, eh?
Look at that. He’s even behind in N.Carolina.
Imagine that. Not enough lattes there?
What happened to redrawing the map? *hooting*
Listen A, if you call the ambition to turn some southern states blue a fib then Hill would be buried in lies WAAAAY to many to list here. More importantly, It’s still early, and O is more competitive in some southern states than any other Dem in the past 20 or so years. Wait until after the convention and let’s see where we stand with the polls. By all accounts (even your new buddies at FOX) right now O is in control of this election.
Um, McObama, you might want to remember which Democratic candidate PROMISED to bring in Republicans and Independents to win. Of course, I’m sure the DNC (or, as it should now be known, the ONC–the Obama National Committee) expected he meant the general election in November, and not just the primaries and caucuses.
Hillary never made any promises of WINNING any red states, but she did tell people (and many of the polls have shown it) that she would be much more likely to win major swing states in November but she NEVER promised to bring in Republicans or Independents as some overall nebulous “hope and change” policy. And you might want to look at the last few electoral maps made during May and compare how Hillary did compared to Obama in head-to-head match-ups against McCain. The last Obama vs McCain map I saw showed neither one winning (although Obama led but he was still nearly a dozen electoral votes away from winning outright, and McCain wasn’t far behind).
It’s not Hill’s promises of winning states that I was referring to. Look we can analyze this many ways. Let’s wait until after the convention. Annin takes joy at the latest polls of the day that favors her candidate when we are really just starting. Let’s see where we are in late August, then pound our chest. Right now everything just rings a little hollow.
JozeFal,
Please don’t confuse Obamabots with facts. He’ll need another kool-aid IV drip ASAP!
Michelle made sure they were available at that Chicago Hospital where she received that handsome salary and where they inflate and cheat low income blacks and latinos.
He is a Kool-aid drip.
LOL I admit it, I loooove it. Taste sweet to me.
McBush Yea, go tell Mudcat what you said…anytime.
???? Who is Mudcat?? I don’t get it. Say what you mean. Stop pussyfooting. lol
The reality is Obama is not acceptable. Deal with that. It has nothing to do with Hillary but everything to do with Obama himself.
Hey everyone, new Barky nickname: Bonnie Prince Barry. Selected not elected.
ehemmm…clever…I prefer Barry Queen of Snots…chuckle…suppose eithe will do asthey both refer to the pretender….Good Post and I enjoyed the videos. One thing about FASCISM is it tends to make for strong reactionary art.
I will never vote for OBAMA OR THE FASCISTS WHO SUPPORT HIM.
Disconnect,
Y0u need to let your Hillary hate go. Just let it go.
She’s out. She’s old news. GONE.
Now….I have other choices: Obama or McCain. Those are MY choices, to be made in private. And none of your business.
But it has nothing to do with Hillary anymore. So you’ll need to let that go.
Some Democrats may vote for McCain. Some may stay home. Some may vote, but leave the top of the ticket blank.
THEIR choice. NOT yours.
But you might just as well accept that the Obama campaign and his supporters have deeply offended half of the Democratic Party.
And insulting them even more, as you’re doing here, won’t help bring them back to Obama.
Americans who don’t vote for Obama because they think he’s unqualified don’t owe you an explanation, dear.
Blaming Hillary for that is useless, darlin.
Obama is now on his own.
Well said! Obamaturds need to understand that just because they chose to follow blindly without asking questions does’nt mean the rest of us have to follow them in their lunacy!
I don’t hate Hillary. She had a poorly run campaign that made repeated tactical errors and ended up $30 million dollars in debt. She lost the nomination by failing to win the majority of the pledged delegates per the rules of the DNC which she agreed to abide to. Nothing has been “stolen” from her. She clearly has passionate supporters, but at the end of the day she came up a little short. Considering that her platform proposals really aren’t that substantially different than Obama’s, if you felt that she had the best best ideas for turning the US around, then try to look past your own bile and realize that the Democrats are poised to take this country in the right direction. Oh, by the way, did I mention that seven days ago Hillary endorsed Obama on National television?
You really do love Hillary, don’t you? You seem obsessed.
It is Obama vs McCain now. Pretty scary, huh?
Better get out new talking points.
And btw, Roe v Wade won’t work, might as well bypass that one.
Most Americans do not play follow the leader, unlike obomabots, And Obama’s issues?? They were Hillary’s first. Without Hillary having been in the race all Obama had was Hope and Change. We ask you Hope to change what??? That is the question. Everything out of Obama’s mouth he’s flipped flopped, umumumum and can barely think on his feet.
He’s an unknown and we still don’t know who the heck he is.
A pluralty of pledged delegates is required not a majority of pledged delegates. How many times do we have to teach these fools. Neither Obama nor Clinton received a plurality of pledged delegates. You know for being called the “higher education” demographic, I have to wonder.
Did Hillary make mistakes..Sure did. However, Hillary managed to compensate for her mistake and was still winning even when the media and her peers were telling her to get out. She was outspent 3 to 1 and still managed to win.
So who actually made the mistake in the end. Obama couldn’t close the deal. Obama royally ticked of the core democrat voters that actually give money to the DNC and vote consistently democratic. Obama did more than just disenfranchise those Reagan Democrats. He disenfranchised the literal bread and butter of the party. He does not have enough time and doesn’t seemed to be inclined to come back and get us either.
This election is going to come down to a vote against McCain or a vote against Obama. No one is actually voting “for” anyone. Sad really. However, understand McCain took the nomination from nowhere without big money or a large machine. He went to the people and talked to them. Obama won’t do that. When McCain gets thrown from the proverbial horse, he gets back on. Hillary Clinton does the same thing. Obama runs away and blames others. As the general election heats up, Obama is going to make more mistakes and so will McCain. McCain will get up and keep going. Obama will run away unless something changes about Obama’s character.
So I don’t know who is going to win this election and I am not going to predict. However, given the character of each of these men. It isn’t a slam dunk for Obama. From McCain’s point of view after spending 5 years in a POW camp, this is child’s play
Linda, I have to correct you on something (at least, if I’ve read your comment correctly, you made a mistake in terminology).
You posted “A pluralty of pledged delegates is required not a majority of pledged delegates. How many times do we have to teach these fools. Neither Obama nor Clinton received a plurality of pledged delegates.”
A “majority” means winning 50% or, in some instances, 50% + 1. In the House, with its 435 members, 50% would be 217.5–since all members have a full vote, it rounds up to 218. In the Senate, with its 100 members, 50% would just be 50, which means there would likely be 50 on the opposite side; 50% + 1 would mean 51, making for an outright majority. (The “50% + 1″ tends to be more pronounced when the vote count in the 1000s or 1000000s.) But with the Electoral College and its 538 Electoral votes, a 50% win would be 269 BUT that would only be enough to win in the case of a “faithless” elector OR there was a third-party candidate who won just a single electoral vote. With 270 Electoral votes, you have the “50% + 1″.
A “plurality”, on the other hand, is when one candidate wins based on having more votes than another candidate but has not achieved the 50% mark. Clinton, for instance, won both of his terms with only a plurality of the popular vote (meaning he failed to win 50% of the popular vote); George W Bush and Al Gore, in the 2000 race, BOTH failed to reach the 50% mark in the national popular vote (as was noted in 2004, Dubya was the first person to win an outright majority of the popular vote since 1988).
From the outset, it was the Obama camp’s rallying cry that whoever won the nomination had to do so with a clear majority of the PLEDGED delegates and that the superdelegates’ votes should not (and would not) be necessary; as the contest drew tighter they started hedging their bets and said the superdelegates should vote “the will of the people” and NOT the candidate they thought best for the party’s chances (of course, when Hillary started winning more of the later primaries and it was clear that no one was going to win a clear majority of the PLEDGED delegates, the whole “supers voting the will of the people” meme was pushed by the wayside and the Obama camp began pushing the Hillary camp’s initial “supers should vote their conscience”).
The SDs should vote their concience, and I believe a large number did that.
Some people aren’t very evolved, obviously, on the conscience level. Those are the ones who took orders from Pelosi that only delegate count mattered or, as Clyburn promised, “blood would run in the street.”
Fear. Intimidation.
It worked.
And there is the CRUX in the fault of your paranoia. How can a junior Senator and his political supporters intimidate his way to a primary win against a more senior senator, an ex-Prez and a signicant amount of party insiders on her side. Let’s not forget when we started this process Hill had 200+ more superdelegates, and somehow she lost the superdelegate lead through intimidation???? Paranoia (or just plain ignorance) at it’s most evident.
Easily…….”The blood will run in the streets.”
That was the key statement in the entire election.
Clyburn. That’s how.
He put the fear of Riots and Bloodshed into the race.
Shame on him. Shame. Shame. Shame.
but, he was probably right.
Obama has stirred up race problems. It’s dicey.
I pray Hillary steps away and stays stepped away.
She is not, as accused, willing to do anything to win.
Obama clear is, however.
I think we ALL saw Clyburn’s tactics. It won’t be forgotten in November.
Yes, shame shame shame.
So now James Clyburn is the most powerful Democrat in the country???? Your arguments are so superficial, baseless, and again based all on paranoia. “We was robbed”. Just doesn’t fly.
Yep I stand corrected. I had it backwards. Obama had the plurality..a majority is required. Neither had the majority of pledged delegates thus there is no nominee.
Whay part of let it go do you not get? It’s all about McCain vs Barky now as Mary so eloquently put it. And since I don’t see any McCain diaires here, you need to go fight the internet war over there. We’re a lost cause. We’ll never vote for Obama.
And yet, here you are, Disconnect…..the only thing you can talk about IS Hillary.
I’ll make my choice in November based on Obama and my own personal evaluation of whether he’s qualified.
You may as well just STOP TALKING ABOUT HILLARY.
It’s all about Obambi now.
Thank you Mary.
Your level head is greatly appreciated.
This is beyond Hillary.
They should have thought it through before the broke the whole Party.
I agreed with everything you said!
And, boy did you say it well!
Thanks, Mimi.
They broke it. They own it.
It’s not Hillary’s job to get voters for Obama.
That’s OBAMA’s job.
And if he’s not up to doing it, he LOSES.
Reality bites.
We are dealing with reality. The reality is we don’t support Barack Obama. Now you deal with that reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UViRBx7MQvg
Hillary may have lost the nomination. But her voters are still out here and we can be the difference between victory and defeat in November.
Talk to us. Hillary did. Give us some firm policy positions. Hillary did. Show some knowledge of various problems in different states. Hillary did.
Show that your candidate knows where the Great Lakes are. Or that the main language in Brazil is Portuguese. Something I already knew and I’m not running for President.
To say she cares nothing for women is amazing. Hillary set up an office in the WH specifically for women veterans. I’m speaking from personal experience.
So is this the new Obama talking point that Hillary is just using women? Try again.
If Obama thinks he can get our votes by trashing Hillary he’s destined to lose.
We will remember in November.
candymarl,
Are you saying that he didn’t know Protuguese was the official language of Brazil?
If that’s true, that’s the final nail for me!
And people want to trust this man with more complex foreign policy?
Dear God he’s a nightmare!
Damn Barack Obama more from Pastor Manning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YzW7_c6XvU
No one is jumping on this guy’s bandwagon. I watched him and having grown up in the church it seems that some posters are trying to get Hillary supporters to support an extreme mirror version of Wright.
Let’s say you pull it off. He wasn’t Hillary’s pastor for 20 years and has no association with her campaign.
He seems to have come out of nowhere and no one, including the black community, knows who he really is.
Interesting.
He appears to have a mental illness to me. I feel bad for him when I see it. Then again, he at least is having some attention with this.
Could we cool the manning stuff? There are some very mixed feelings about that man’s full six pack.
Upp the voice of reason?? I tip my hat.
Yes I reason well.
When you want to you certainly do. That’s why there’s hope for you.
Uppity!
“there’s hope for you.”
Come on, people. Can’t you see what’s happening here? First you dismantle a major political party, set yourself and your henchmen up as Emperor and the Imperial Guard, keep your followers in an extended trance, woo the press and large sections of public opinion, and then crush all opposition and dissent.
This isn’t Orwellian-like. This is Orwell in your face. It’s neither new nor original. Charles is right–if you’ve read your history, you’ll recognize the sleazy patterns.
I hate to sound like an alarmist, but I have an awful feeling of something wicked this way comes. Right now? We’re sitting on the cusp.
Keep pushing, keep posting, keep asking the uncomfortable questions [and there's plenty of questions out there] And no, questions are not off the table or simply “old style, divisive politics.” Obama needs to be drilled on details, details, details.
I’m not suprised BO turned McCain down on the Town Hall appearances. He’d have to think and talk on his feet without the teleprompter. Too dangerous. Too revealing. It might put a hiccup in the groupie love fest.
Wake up America!
PUMApac.org
The Democratic party has now become the party of Obama with his installation of cronies and toadies throughout the DNC and moving it to Chicago.
And woe to any Democrat politico who doesn’t get with the program.
The only place you find parties like this is in Zimbabwe or Venezuela.
Even if Obama is defeated he’ll still control the Democratic party and have millions of mindless followers at his disposal to keep party discipline.
Obama ain’t going nowhere.
Who cares, really? This has happened before. The party gets marginalized until a sensible moderate rescues it and gets rid of the radical whack jobs. It’s history repeated.
In the meantime, I always still get to vote.
if he’s defeated in a mcgovern-like landslide, i think his presumptuous “ownership” of the party will disappear as fast as his loyalty to all his under-the-bus dwellers.
that’s why i’ll vote mccain, even though i’m in a solid red state and could easily just write in hillary or vote nader or whatever without changing the outcome.
not only does obambi need to lose the electoral vote big time, but also the popular vote big time. that way, his followers’ claims of racism or whatever will fall on deaf ears and even our tone-deaf party “leaders” will get the message (as they’re being replaced by real leaders).
Obama will win and America will end. The attempt to control what we see and think is just getting started. The new Presidential powers that bush enacted will be strengthened and enforced by Obama to his theological ends. Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the only candidate that even mentioned turning from those presidential controls. She has been for all Americans. Obama has not. She has the record of fighting for Americans. John McCain has a record fighting for all Americans. Obama has a record fighting for? Obama wins America ends. Bush set it up Barack Hussein Obama will finish it.
I’ve pretty much decided I don’t want the Democratic Party’s change platform. I no longer trust them. Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, et al, abused their position power. OK. They got their coup.
However, now I don’t believe much that comes out of their mouths about any policies.
Take the Veterans Bill. I automatically started reading up on the reasons why the Republicans defeated that bill. I never would have done that in the past, but the mistrust I have for the Democrats is sky-high.
I think they presented a very traditional tax and spend Democratic bill that harks back to the 60’s.
Bill Clinton did a fabulous job of showing the country that Democrats can be fiscally responsible and not all about social welfare programs that keep people poor and on the government dole. (btw….I’m not suggesting the Vet bill is that.) The Republicans spent us into a humongous deficit.
We were set to go with establishing ourselves as the true fiscally responsible party.
That bill had no brakes on it whatsoever. It was a mock bill, guaranteed to lose and be used as a publicity stunt.
I don’t respect that tactic by the Democrats, but I saw what they are really like in the inner circle.
Therefore, I will not be publicly supporting the Democrats.
In my own state, I’m fortunate. Diane Feinstein and even Barbara Boxer are pretty OK senators. Barbara at least kept neutral until it was over, as promised.
But the Rep side led by Pelosi? I’m not sure I’ll even vote for that gang.
What goes around, comes around. Same as last time.
Hey Obama fans please give a list of what he has done
You can not list he gave a speech in 2002.
And you can list Community Organizer since the guy involved in most of it is going to jail.
GO!
Clock’s ticking,.. how many months have gone by with no real plans by Obama that he didn’t take from anybody else.
The only thing I see that Obama’s done is throw everyone off the bus who looked cross-eyed at him, or question him or ’smear’ him. He’s sure not the change I’m looking for nor the change this country needs.
Bushco bullied us to death and Obamabots do the same thing..yeah that’s progress…real change..ayup
NOBAMA!
NOBAMA NEVER! GET IT!
First 2008 Presidential Town Hall Meeting
Last Thursday night, John McCain held the first of what he hoped would be ten joint town hall appearances with Barack Obama. Unfortunately, Senator Obama chose not to attend. The town hall meeting, at Federal Hall in New York City, was broadcast live on The Fox News Channel. This historic location is where President George Washington first took the oath of office. At the event, John McCain answered questions about important issues facing voters this year, including the economy, energy prices and the war.
Last week, John McCain invited Senator Obama to participate in this event, hoping to start what would be a series of ten town hall meetings where both candidates would travel the country to answer questions from real voters. Senator Obama has yet to agree to meet us in these town halls, which would revolutionize our political process and start a real change in the tone of politics. John McCain believes in this effort and is putting it into action. There will be another town hall meeting next Thursday, so be sure to check JohnMcCain.com soon for more information.
I’d like to see those. Any utubes available? I hear John is best in that setting. Relaxed.
Obama is a chicken-shit.
No kidding, they’re going to call Mccain old and senile and then not debate him. Yeah, that’s going to play well in the Heartland. Obama afraid to take on a 70 year old man. That limpwristed, liberal, wimpy label will never wash off.
No kidding, they’re going to call Mccain old and senile and then not debate him. Yeah, that’s going to play well in the Heartland. Obama afraid to take on a 70 year old man. That limpwristed, liberal, wimpy label will never wash off.
Will you all stop calling Obama a liberal. I am a liberal and Obama ain’t one.
Obama is an ineffectual
Annin, nice 2 yeard old deduction. Fraidy cat, fraidy cat. Hey, it’s all about winning the election. Why would he play to MAC’s strong suit. I know you’re smarter than that. There will be debates, just not one a week. Any and everyone knows why MACS people proposed it and it has more to do with MACS shortcomings more than anything else. lol
Everyone knows that the Marxist Obama wants. He wants to socialize and destroy our healthcare system under the guise of so-called “universal healthcare”. He wants to cut and run from Iraq and cower down to Iran. John McCain is a true war hero who is NOT afraid to use force against Iran. John McCain will also prevent the appointment of radical left-wing activist judges to the supreme court. The only problem I have with McCain is his belief in the hoax that is man-made global warming… but i believe that will change once he is elected. Together we can can make sure McCain is elected president in 2008!
Joe conservative
Look up the economic advisers of Barry. Partially privatizing social security doesn’t sound very socialistic to me. He has no plan for universal health care. Just making it “available|” for everyone “who wants” it. McCain wants to make health care “more affordable” so “more people can have coverage”.
Foreign policy? Brzenski and company. Arming religious fanatics to fight the Russians who ultimately fly plans into US buildings. Maximizing divisiveness and using groups as pawns for another cold war. Providing arms to Pol Pot wannabes as long as it stops Russia influence…hell with the death of innocents while proclaiming “human rights” the whole time.
Sounds like the same old thing and more acceptable to republicans than democrats
Obama’s had well over a year to show whether he has any substance. Instead, he’s stayed with the phantoms named Hope, Change and Unity, along with uttering the occasional “me too” to Hillary’s positions I’ve tired of looking for the substance any more. I’m simply ignoring him, as well as skipping over posts from his childish trolls who frequent No Quarter and similar places.
Let’s skip to the chase
sorry the functions are not working for me on the comment box – and when I attemtped my own html it didn’t take it at all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezr3dW4J5s&feature=related
the glazy eyed zealots in that Obama video give me the creeps. This is the strangest election I have ever witnessed.
The scariest part is so many people in this country believe in his bullshit.
please,
dis-connect
WHY ARE THE MISOGYNIST INFIRM OBAMYOPICS SPITTING THEIR STUPIDITIES HERE? GO WATCH MSNBC/CNN and pray to The Icon of Emptiness @ Church of Rezko–Obimbo will pay your ticket to Chicago, boys!
Didn’t Obama mail his faithful any KoolAid or their Political Disability vouchers and pop yet? Gee, he could ask Rezko for some dough…Auchi can buy a new house next to DNC headquarters…no problem
Come November, their Obamyopia will be cured permanently….bitter medicine will be delivered to the Messiah’s door in Chicago and his mentor?benefactor ALICE PALMER whom he screwed back in ‘96 and the rest of us will get the last laugh!
Hey Mimi.. here’s another expample of what I was telling you about earlier. BABYMAMA2?? Add that to NO NEGRO FOR PRESIDENT. See, even FOX had better taste than to let something like this linger. Not your NQ buddies. Lingering resentment I tell you.
Maybe Larry could do a story on this and what is Obama`s stand regarding the superhighway ?
When completed, the highway will run from Mexico City to Toronto, slicing through the heartland like a dagger sunk into a heifer at the loins and pulled clean to the throat. It will be four football fields wide, an expansive gully of concrete, noise and exhaust, swelled with cars, trucks, trains and pipelines carrying water, wires and God knows what else. Through towns large and small it will run, plowing under family farms, subdevelopments, acres of wilderness. Equipped with high-tech electronic customs monitors, freight from China, offloaded into nonunionized Mexican ports, will travel north, crossing the border with nary a speed bump, bound for Kansas City, where the cheap goods manufactured in booming Far East factories will embark on the final leg of their journey into the nation’s Wal-Marts.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070827/hayes
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/aug06/06-08-23.html
Bush wants this highway to be built by foriegn contracters and as a toll Rd to be operated by foriegn contractors. FACT!
Freaky stuff HARP. Hillary was the only one to take questions on this.
Check it out:
The Real Clear Politics average of polls shows BO has dropped to a 3.8 point lead over McCain.
Three days ago he had a 6 point lead that all were applauding as his huge “bump.”
Now, he’s lost 2.2 points in less that 3 days.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
Even McGovern and Dukakis had double digit leads the week they were declared.
Rasmussen is showing Obama with a measly 6 point lead. Gallup shows Obama has fallen to a 3 point lead. And the current aol straw poll shows McCain beating Obama. 59%McCain and 41%Obama with the entire country RED!
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
I saw that, Susan. Rasmussen still has up by 6 points.
But he’s tanking again.
The talking heads are saying the polls are too far out. I’m sure they are right.
But trying to defeat McCain through nothing more than arguments in the press isn’t going to fly.
This was probably one of the best posts I have seen on NoQuarter because it attacks the central issue with Obama and with American politics. Everyday I am amazed at how many people are willing to make a man with practically no experience…a man who has never managed a serious budget…a man who was having personal financial issues before his books hit the presisdent of the most powerful country on the planet.
I just don’t get it. People talk about “change” as if you wake up and it happens.
This is a fabulous post. Notice the heavy flak? Covering it with crap because they can’t address the issues he raises.
Wakey wakey folks
Obama is taking over the DNP war room for elections for all Democrats across the country. Anyone figure out why?
Senate alone 17 seats up for grabs, 15 GOP seats. Obama controls these he almost has a 2/3 majority in the Senate.
Congress has almost as many up for achieving a 2/3 majority.
What is possible with a 2/3 majority in the US Congress?
Constitutional Amendments.
Basically impossible this go around to achieve, but not after 2010. Obama controlling in chicago the Democratic war room over elected officials, it is achieveable then.
Look at the big picture, want to learn more, read up and learn the operations of Frank Marshall Davis, Obama’s mentor since the age of 10.
There is so much so wrong with Obama, it is scary and beyond that, with his present known associates, you think a staged terrorist act is not possible?
If Obama is POTUS he has the right to suspend the Constitution. Don’t think it only happens in places like Pakistan, a year ago who would have ever thought caucuses would turn out to be open revolts and controlled riots?
Today looking inside the normality of US politics is gone, now you have to look outside at tactical over throws in other countries to learn. This is not as someone said an experience, it is a reality practiced in many other countries, now being practiced in America.
Do not be shocked by it, it is your country, do somethign about it. You think for a milli-second Obama will tell you what his objectives are, you are crazy, so follow what you have seen occur in this election and see it practiced to different degrees in other countries and you will see one thing, the exact same similarities!
Mel, the BIG picture is lost on BO supporters. Thanks for saying what I have been studying and observing for the last 15 years.
Obama spent $100,000 donating it to his SHARIA LAW marxist-islamist cousin Odinga in Kenya whose thugs raped thousands and burned hudnreds of churches and left country in ruin last December! Yup, Barack wants some change for Women: Sharia Law and burquas!!
Anyone has seen ANY VIDEOS OF OBAMA CAMPAIGNING FOR COUSIN ODINGA IN KENYA LAST YEAR…wonderful promo for his Campaign to help women in America.
Now that Hillary was pushed off the stage, nothing willl stop the still sane Americans from STOPPING OBAMA from BRINGING SHARIA LAW here….
The man’s a sexist – why donate $100,000 and go to that (formerly) Democratic country to support a man who wants to enact SHARIA LAW and ‘chastity provisions’ for all girls? Did anybody question his Judgment, Character and Misogyny? He’s a joke that’s playing out till November.
Vote McCain or Cynthia McKinney–the AA Green Party leader! Better than staying home or voting for the Sharia Law Candidate!!!
Obama spent $100,000 donating it to his SHARIA LAW marxist-islamist cousin Odinga in Kenya whose thugs raped thousands and burned hudnreds of churches and left country in ruin last December! Yup, Barack wants some change for Women: Sharia Law and burquas!!
Anyone has seen ANY VIDEOS OF OBAMA CAMPAIGNING FOR COUSIN ODINGA IN KENYA LAST YEAR…wonderful promo for his Campaign to help women in America.
Now that Hillary was pushed off the stage, nothing willl stop the still sane Americans from STOPPING OBAMA from BRINGING SHARIA LAW here….
The man’s a sexist – why donate $100,000 and go to that (formerly) Democratic country to support a man who wants to enact SHARIA LAW and ‘chastity provisions’ for all girls? Did anybody question his Judgment, Character and Misogyny? He’s a joke that’s playing out till November.
Vote McCain or Cynthia McKinney–the AA Green Party leader! Better than staying home or voting for the Sharia Law Candidate!!!
With a donation you can get the GLOBAL POVERTY ACT, which guarantees Kenya will get OUR taxpayer dollars forever.
I guess he meant hope and change for Africa.
New McCain ad, Honors Hillary’s 3 A.M. reminder to America!
http://tinyurl.com/5jtjgs
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Here, Here! Up with free speech, including mine. Now, I do wish THEY would shut up.
This is one of the most chilling ads I’ve seen and that includes a child plucking daisy petals with the explosion of an atomic bomb in the background. Cultish, messianic chanting by celebrities that reminds me of 1930s news reels.
The psychologist that put this together used an old trick with the hypnotic chanting of “O-Ba-Ma” by a group of well known faces. Unfortunately, that’s all it is; smoke and mirrors for the masses to keep them content long enough for substance not to matter.
But it won’t fed the masses and when the masses aren’t fed they usually begin chanting slogans of their own.
No joke, I watched this video before bed when it first came out a couple months ago. It freaked me out. That night, I had dreams about nuclear holocaust. Very ominous, lol.
Ditto – it is the scariest thing I’ve seen in a long time in terms of cult-like mass political movements in the U.S. — and using trusted and admired faces adds to its effect among young and naive kids.
Well, I always thought we should select Joel Osteen, he gives better inspirational speeches than Obama. Maybe Obama should consider him as VP! They could trade speeches with each other and just be interchangeable! LOL
Oh, and if you are going to separate the Obmaites that are harassing people from the Obama campaign, just remember, you have to make the same allowance for John McCain when the Swiftboating of Obmam starts.
Watch the video and draw your own conclusions, or just have a good laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqLvzFv5Q14
WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?
Really Mr. Obama, Really?
http://tinyurl.com/5wfmwa
Senator Obam is an empty suit and Senator Durbin is Daily Kos/Moveon.Org Purse Puppy – Illinois is screwed,blued and tatooed:
http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/06/dr-steve-sauerberg-happy-flag-day.html
Those are not pro Obama videos.
Thoese videos were created a a safer method for Bulimics to puke.
It is safer than sticking objects down their throat. Kind of like handing out condoms, and clean needles for IV drug users.
It’s typical of the left wing feel gooders. They want to help, but in the end they are just enablers and part of the problem, not the solution.
Hey, did any of you guys hear this? The McCain campaign has solicited the help of Carly Fiorina. She was the CEO of Hewlitt Packard, and she is one sharp cookie. She’s about 53 years old, google her, whoa, that would be one cool move for McCain to choose her as his VP running mate. I, personally, like her. What do you guys think?
I would prefer Sarah Palin of Alaska.
It would put some energy into McCain’s campaign. I’ve always liked Fiorina, but she doesn’t have political experience. As an advisor or fundraiser, though, I can see her working well.
Is she any worse than the guy from Countrywide that Barky fired?
He’s panicked and loading up with so many centrist Dems and insiders it looks like a convention for “I ran and lost before, but Obama will renew my political career!” convention. *haha
Did you guys hear the news?
Senator Chris Dodd and Rep. Kent Conrad got “special” low-interest million dollar loans from the CEO of Countrywide, too. Just like Obama’s Jim Johnson did.
DODD. A former presidential candidate.
I really like Fiorina. I caught her campaign outreach ad on another site. Unlike Obama, McCain has demonstrated very good judgement having someone like Carly Fiorina as a friend and spokesperson. She’s tough, smart and real. I think she’ll appeal to a lot of undecided Dem voters, women in particular.
She’s an Ace up John McCain’s sleeve. And I’ve wondered if she’s on the VP short list.
PUMApac.org
If she is VP – McCain will definitely have my vote.
I saw her U-Tube piece. It was nice and general.
But yes, I love listening to women in business talk about issues. She’ll help him. She seemed pretty normal. Now, forgive my ignorance, but is this the HP lady who stirred up the hornet’s nest over there?
I REALLY liked that gal. LOL* Whistle-blower?
This is Joel Osteen. Pay attention to the similarities, people. You are being taken for a huge Obama ride! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4PzFikyGh0&feature=related
Joel Osteen should be paid by Obama, he has been robbed, all his words, hope, change, even that scary circle logo.
Nothing about OB is authentic, he has stolen ideas, concepts, everything from others. That’s the problem when you try to just “throw” a campaign together, he has to steal ideas from others who are successful (doesn’t mean you have to agree with their product).
That Obama, Obama, Obama chant is just as annoying as the ding, ding, ding of slot machines.
Vegas sells fantasy too.
Rock on No Quarter!
Vegas sells fantasy too
Yeah and people are chomping at the bit for that fantasy. Bad analogy… try again.
Another Obama gaffe – or is it?
According to Obama in this MSNBC (where else) interview higher gas prices are a good thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gehaf7_TBAs&eurl=http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/12/the-gaffemeister-has-another-whoopsie-admits-that-he-likes-higher-gas-prices/
I guess this answers in part how Obama will institute change.
Yes, we all know Barry doesn’t need to buy gas for his own car…he just walks or rides his bicycle.
The O-Ba-Ma chanting in the first video is simply appalling…lemmings being led all the way to the cliff…
I’ve got news for you lemmings…it’s a long, l o n g way down to the rocks below.
Oh…Bahhh….Maaa… but the sentiment from those people is more like Oh My God.
Freaking scary. It’s not only in Nazi Germany that they made people sing those patriotic songs to their leader. Stalin, Mao, Kim Il and the rest of the dictators of this world do that.
Who cares about details, the hows and the consequences. Hope, Change, and Obama will solve everything.
“Four legs good, two legs baaaaaad!”
Obama Sheeps, lol. You’re right, the 4 legged kind are smarter, they know when to run away from things that will hurt them.
O Baaaaa Ma! O Baaaaa Ma!
West Palm, I like Sarah as well. I just thought it was an interesting move from the McCain camp. I don’t know if you saw the video/potential TV ad, but it’s pretty darn good. Clearly he’s trying to win over we Hillary supporters. And I think it’s a very smart move.
Strawberry: you’re funny, I like that. NO, she’s NOT Barky’s Countrywide kinda girl!
If BO is elected, it will motivate the GOP to get voters to the polls for Senate and House seat elections.
Just like Gingrich did to Bill Clinton.
Republicans — who are clearly more politically astute than the average Obama supporter on the blogs — will do everything they can to STOP a Democratic president presiding over a Democratic majority in the house and senate.
But the average “We Are The World” starry-eyed Obama supporter on the net is completely ingnorant to the political nuances.
Obama tells you something as vague and oblique as: “this is the moment the oceans began to heal” and you swoon.
Word to the Obama camp: your mindset and your messianic worship of Obama represents a tiny percentage of the country.
You are a fringe group, sweeties! Fringe. Group.
And the proof is in the math — a virtual tie with McCain who has barely campaigned while Obama has spent enough money to support a small third world country.
Wait till the GOP hits him full force after Denver.
Don’t assume politically savvy Independents will ignore Obama’s play to move the DNC to Chicago. This will blow his credibility with Independents.
You’re naive — and your Hillary-hating ditto-heads on MSNBC have HANDED the White House to the GOP. You and your goofy Obama-pushing Dr. Dean have done this country GREAT HARM.
Hillary was our true hope.
Your Hope-a-Dope leader is all hype.
That song scared the shit out of me.
To this day I don’t think people get why it was so alarming.
Susan in your ignorance (as usual) you argue against yourself all in one post. “If Obama is elected….” “…Handed the White House to the GOP.” Which is it?? Can he get elected or is the race already decided for the GOP?? This why you have no credibility. Tighten it up, your SUPPOSED to have some kind of intellect.
From the article:
“Politics has real life consequences and for Obama supporters to project the change they want to see on a man who has yet to deliver an ounce of change is frankly delusional.”
Yes, I agree that there is a sickness. I have never seen such rabid followers. Furthermore, Obama didn’t change his Chicago district for the better, he made it worse by ignoring his slumlord buddy Rezko who let thousands of poor blacks live in squalor and without heat during one of the coldest winters on record. That is so sinister–to look the other way while people suffer just for political gain.
–Also, Obama was only a U.S. Senator for ONE YEAR before he announced his candidacy, and meanwhile, he votes 130 times present, and he claimed 6 of his actual yes or no votes as accidents since he pushed the wrong buttons. He is woefully inexperienced.
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ALSO:
ATTN!!!
Avoid responding to trolls. They like to take you off topic. You would think Obamalamadingdongs would be excited and happy for Obama but they are all still mean and angry.
Women of the blogworld, we are effecting change! McCain just cancelled a fundraiser by some good ole’ Texas boy who apparently made disparaging remarks about women and rape. (Didn’t hear what. Surely not the ole coca cola bit.)
That’s change. Women are marching into the Republican party and McCain is a smart cookie.
Good move, John. Very, very impressive.
LOL… no, you’re just getting pimped by ole John and crew. They know a mark when they see one.
If it’s not Hillary, then in my mind it will be Carly, Carly, Carly……………
Alas, I’m still an optimist, I hope my Hillary brings it home.
I am not diss’n anybody for hoping against the wind. Why else would I vote Nader? But many Obama supporters have said, “that’s not realistic.” Some dreamers. He’s fought for decades to make things better for Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and all Americans in a truly universal manner, and is the real deal. “Nobody’s going to get elected unless they play the game”, I’ve heard. So do you really want change, or to just feel good about yourself while the world suffers?
Nader cannot compete with Obama’s cold hard cash. He can offer real hope for real change, if America wants it.
Is this the same James from the other thread who called every racists and claimed No Quarter posters wanted to kill Obama?
If so, you’re completely nuts.
That first video gives me chills. It’s truly creepy.
JUST SAY NO.
My opinion for what it’s worth.
Charles Lemos: thanks for this thread. Please do more. Don’t worry about being redundant. Frequent reminders are needed.
Those celebrities are making a fool out of themselves – they need to start instituting mandatory high school education for these idiots since obviously you don’t have critical thinking ability to be an actor or singer – that’s the only way anyone can support Obama — they are devoid of logic.
Hillary endorsed Obama on national television last week. Did you people miss this? She’s not going to be the Democratic nominee in 2008. It’s over. She lost.
You’re a bit stupid. God bless you.
She’s just a poltiician who endorsed someone.
About as important now as Kennedy was to me initially.
We’re just not that impressed with endorsements from politicians.
Does that penetrate?
I doubt it.
I think you’re a bit stupid.
Obamabots are similar to people who:
Still think OJ is innocent of murder and is really looking for the real killers on public golf courses in Florida and third-rate casinos in Vegas
Believe that Michael Jackson just REALLY likes kids and his affections are nothing but an innocent crying out for his own lost youth.
All the kool-aid folks have been talking about BO being able to win the southern red states. Dudes, you all have something else in that kool-aid besides cult poison. There were only three red states this election year that were going to vote Democratic: KY, AR, WVa. And they were voting for Senator Hillary Clinton. If you think Obama can win the election, my hat’s off to you. But please look at the political landscape of post-2004 election and check out John Kerry’s electoral votes. Obama will be somewhere close to that. Thanks to the DNC and Obama, we have turned MI into a swing state…but, BO might win CO, doubt it though. You all keep hoping for those red states. I mean, isn’t that what all this is about, Change and Hope! LOL And that 50 state strategy? Where do you think BO got that idea? The Democratic Party has been usurped by Easterners and Mid-West Chicago thugs. Glad it is your Party and not mine.
They’re hoping for red states to bail them out because red states are what helped Obama in the primary. It’s OK for Obama to rally Republicans to help him, but then when Hillary supporters defect to McCain, the Obamabots cry Republican influence. Just another example of Barack being above everyone and everything else. Hypocrisy at its finest!
By the way, our household calls him “Mr. Hologram”. The dude is just EMPTY.
a quote fro man Obamatan, above: “Get it through your thick skulls, Hillary lost. She endorsed Obama. She said that the goal of the party is to DEFEAT John McCain.”
MILLIONS, yes MILLIONS of Americans were disenfranchised by Obama, the press, their own party, and Obama’s supporters.
WE. WILL. NOT. FORGET.
NOBAMA!!!!!!!
What is beginning to amuse me, in an almost perverse way, is that the cultists who have been listening to this silver-tongued phony have convinced themselves that as soon as their cult leader’s opponent _suspended_ (not ended) her campaign, that we would all come over to the fold.
THAT is going to be their first MAJOR disappointment, and I for one and elated at that. I have NEVER seen a candidate so dissed by her own party and the press as Hillary was. It was a political and press assassination, period. (including the accusations that Hillary was encouraging Obama’s end).
Also, did you see that hope piece of S**T video, with nary a Caucasion in it? Like there are no hopeless people in WV, or KY.
Seriosusly, you Obamatans are a scary lot; this is starting to look like cult worshipping.
Larry, perhaps you can set up a de-programming site for these lost souls. They’re a sad, pathetic lot.
Okay, that commercial about made me vomit and did nothing to persuade me to BUY CROCK O’SCAMA. Really, who is behind the marketing over there? “Hey, let’s get some washed up, mousey, c-list celebs to chant ‘Obama.’ That’ll reel ‘em in and be the perfect counter-offensive to the Republican attack ads that’ll be coming our way.”
Great Job! The first two videos say it all.
HERR DISCONNECT:
SOMEBODY DISCONNECT THE OBAMAPOT NAZI CALLED ‘DISCONNECT’
GO BACK TO JOIN YOUR CULT LEADER AND LEAVE US ALONE!
DISONNECT, ACHTUNG. Aufviedersehen, dumpkof
WATCH OBAMA’S MEGA HIT ON YOU TUBE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE STANDS FOR:
‘OBAMA GIVES FINGER TO HILLARY’
Now let’;s have this immature juvenile arrogant smug Chicago cultist FLIP-OFF Sen. McCain.
Obama trolls…get out of this area. Go to Chicago and commiserate with Mao Tse Dean and Herr Barack. Just get your garlic-noses outta here! Better still, go sing a Hymn of Praise for the Saint of Hope at Trinity. They need new choir master…you can help…