By Larry Johnson
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Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm with expertise combating terrorism and investigating money laundering. Mr. Johnson works with US military commands in scripting terrorism exercises, briefs on terrorist trends, and conducts undercover investigations on counterfeiting, smuggling and money laundering.
Mr. Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism, is a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis and risk management.
Mr. Johnson has analyzed terrorist incidents for a variety of media including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, National Public Radio, ABC's Nightline, NBC's Today Show, the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, and the BBC. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management Magazine, the New York Times, and The Los Angeles Times. He has lectured on terrorism and aviation security around the world, including the Center for Research and Strategic Studies at the Ecole Polytechnique in Paris, France. He represented the U.S. Government at the July 1996 OSCE Terrorism Conference in Vienna, Austria.
From 1989 until October 1993, Larry Johnson served as a Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents throughout the world and he helped organize and direct the US Government’s debriefing of US citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Mr. Johnson also participated in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103. Under Mr. Johnson’s leadership the U.S. airlines and pilots agreed to match the US Government’s two million-dollar reward.
From 1985 through September 1989 Mr. Johnson worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. During his distinguished career, he received training in paramilitary operations, worked in the Directorate of Operations, served in the CIA’s Operation’s Center, and established himself as a prolific analyst in the Directorate of Intelligence. In his final year with the CIA he received two Exceptional Performance Awards.
Mr. Johnson is a member of the American Society for Industrial Security. He taught at The American University’s School of International Service (1979-1983) while working on a Ph.D. in political science. He has a M.S. degree in Community Development from the University of Missouri (1978), where he also received his B.S. degree in Sociology, graduating Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa in 1976.See Authors Posts (923) on June 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM in Current Affairs
I must admit I initially thought this was a farfetched question. But there is a significant body of evidence, some circumstantial, that suggests the answer may be “no.” An internet friend (Katherine) has pursued this relentlessly. She sent me the following:
According to the state laws in Hawaii that were in effect at the time of Obama’s birth, a child must be born to “TWO” U.S. Citizen parents (this law was in effect from “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986,“ which means it applies to Barack’s birth.
But only Barack’s mom was a U.S. Citizen. Papa Obama was a citizen of Kenya. Well, the Hawaiian law stiplulates that:
…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least FIVE of which had to be after the age of 16.”
It appears that Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means she was shy of the 21 years of age required by the law. In other words, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At what point was Barack Obama Jr., son of Barack Obama Sr., recognized by the U.S. Government as an American citizen? When he moved to Indonesia with his mother and step-father in the mid-1960s I am assuming he had a U.S. passport.
There is a law suit in the works. Of that you can be sure. As was noted in an early post today on No Quarter, Barack’s stubbornness on the birth certificate issue is keeping the matter alive. Not a good idea going into the General Election.
I am not a Constitutional scholar (nor is Barack for that matter). The relevant clause of the Constitution stipulates that:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Now, I had always assumed that a naturalized citizen (like Arnold) could not be President. but the clause, “or a citizen of the United States,” seems to open the door for people who become citizens. Any lawyers out there?
Here is an excellent site for US Citizenship Law.
http://www.aca.ch/hisuscit.htm
How can you follow a guy who still gets his hair cut with a bowl? LJ looks like Moe. And he is a stooge!
Realchicken(shit), that illogical utterance is called an argumentum ad hominem. Don’t get us started now. Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and the rest of you members of the Wright/Pfleger/Farrakhan Cult do not meet any standard of style or pulchritude.
B.O.W.L.* Big Time in November (2008)
HRC - 45th POTUS (2012)
*Barack Obama Will Lose
Quick note to Larry Johnson, upon listening to the Rush Limbaugh show today.
(I thought you would get a laugh out of this)
Rush in trying to defend himself in response to the FighttheSmears blog……regarding the possibility of a Michelle Obama tape said the following…
1) Larry Johnson is a left-wing liberal democrat
2) Larry Johnson is a left-wing democrat party hack
3) Larry Johnson saw the Michelle Obama tape himself.
skin head!!!
Now that Obama is preseident.
Go fuck yourself in the ass…really really hard, den suck ur own fucking dick, get AIDS and go slowly die somewhere in a corner.!
pleas excuse my language but you evidently know how to upset an individual! So unless you’re ignorant don’t post anymore comments like these.
Obama Supporter…You show your IQ by your lack of Vocab. Profanity shows lack of character and creativity.
I don’t know how you can be sworn into office with something like that over your head. He needs to give out the whole document and background info otherwise this will be a big problem for lots of people. Including myself. What is there to hide? Why did his Kenyan grandma say she was there in Kenya where he was born? It raises too many questions. I’m not a fan of either candidate and wasn’t going to be dancing in the street either way. It’s a simple thing really to produce the doctumentation if you have it. I’m just stating facts. I’d say the same thing if John McCain was in question.
I am so glad that someone is not on this parade of Obama like the rest of the ignorant americans are. I do not condemn you for voting for Obama, but i will acknowledge your ability to stand up for facts. I agree with your argument about providing an actual (original) birth certificate. The rest of us americans have to provide this certificate in order to attend school and grasp jobs, however Obama does not have to provide one to run our country? He is causing too much attention to himself and it is ridiculous. From my understanding is, he tried to forge one once before and apparently he got caught. i don’t know the whole story on that, but i would like to know more. As for the conspiracy of Obama being born in Kenya, I would like to know more on that as well. Unfortunately, she passed away, however we still have to mother and father to fall back on.
We all should pray because a BOLD FACE LYING MUSLIM is going to the White House.
We may never recover from this.
isnt that the truth prayer is about the only thing we have to protect us.
Its funny how this country was founded by honest God fearing people and has always been based around christianity, now we are going to have a president that will take all of that away. Everyone sais this is a historical election and there right this day marks a turning point but unfortunately its for the worse. I will continue to support my country but I WILL NOT SUPPORT OBABMA. I will stick to my christian beliefs and pray for my country to realize obama is not a true american.
this country was not based on CHristianity. In fact, church (ALL religion) and state (Government) are supposed to be decidedly separate. You need to read some more history, and turn off the a.m. radio whack-jobs misinforming you.
Ahem the constitution actually states that government cannot make any law regarding an “establishment” of religion. In the vernacular of the day, this simply means that US Gov cannot tell a church how to practice faith, and that government cannot establish its own favorite church. It unfortunately does not state in any way that religious principles and doctrine cannot participate in methodologies of governance. Most of the founders were in fact men of faith who came here to rid themselves of the financial tyranny that Church of England, Vatican, and central banking had created.. If you can find a single line written by one of the founders that states that religious principles should have nothing whatever to do with governance, please post it.
You are a lair. This Country was founded on the one true Christian God. We had prayer in all and every court room before court. Before and after the election of a President we had prayer. The bible was the main curriculum in every school, and All of the first every colleges were started to study Gods word in the for of the Bible, not the Koran our any other book.
As for the term separation of church and state, it is a big lie to just like your uneducated mouth. The phrase “Separation of Church and State” is not even in any of our governments document, but only in a privet letter to a citizen. People like you are the reason this country has fallen from greatness. Anyone who vote’s for someone who goes against GOD’S laws (the ones this country is founded on) brings judgment on this country. As I am sure that is what you and people like Barracka Hussein Obama really want. I am sure you will get the judgment you seek, even after you stop looking for it.
Part of being a christian is not judging someone you do not know .Just remeber when you point your finger at someone it always points back to you .Everyone has ther opinion but let GOD do the judging remeber what it says on everything around us says IN GOD WE TRUST . God will pull every one who believes in him through .,
he’s a half-black, half-white Christian you moron. people talk about the republican party as being the “Christian” party just because they vote against abortion and gay legislation. how about keeping down the poor? how about lying and deceit? i disagree with obama on abortion, but obama will be a more Christian President than the evil Bush/Cheney.. easy to see.
Steve,
Actually, Obama isn’t half-black. He is:
50% White
44% African-ASIAN
6% African-BLACK
Be sure to get your facts straight before ranting. And by the way, attacking someone for there views isn’t being a responsible US Citizen. Disagreement and debate to find common ground are what makes this country great.
Don’t be a hater!
I won’t call you a lier. You are just ignorant to the truth.
WOW !! When did you do DNA test on Obama to find that out ? Tell me his father was a Black Kenyan (just like 99% of hs fellow countrymen) or an Black-Asian. BTW where the hell did Obama get asian blood ?? From living in Indonesia ?? Just for the record I voted McCain/Palin but I´m sick of the smears.
Obama is only 1/8 black. Look up his heritage. Our country was founded on Christianity. It’s really sad that it is losing that. We Christians need to start standing up for what’s right and stop taking crap from everybody! We don’t deserve it!
The birth certificate shown doesn’t have the doctor’s name or the father’s signature. That thing is nowhere NEAR real! Obama is a liar and does not deserve to be president of our country! He needs to just go away and let McCain take over instead! McCain may be a lot older, but he knows a whole heck of a lot more, and is DEFINITELY more patriotic than Obama! That picture going around on the internet that people are arguing about…well, if everybody else is saluting the flag, why the heck can’t he? I guess he’s too frickin’ lazy, huh? Is that his reasoning? He’s going to get us all screwed into the ground, if not killed. As somebody did say above, all we can do now is pray, which I will be doing A LOT of! I do not support his beliefs or supposed morals, but I will pray for him to be wise in making decisions for our country. Maybe he will wise up before February. We’ll just have to wait and see.
My mom probably said it best when she said that this is probably a wake-up call to Christians because as a whole we have been lazy and have not been standing up for what’s right (generally speaking, of course). God is wanting us to stand up for Him and His word. We all need to wake up and pray that everything turns out okay in these next four years.
I will say that one of the sad things is that if an African American tries to run again, they will all be compared to Obama, which will really suck. I do think it’s a huge milestone that we have another race besides white going into office, but I just don’t believe it should be him. Sadly, I have to go along with it, though. The only thing we can do is impeach him, but that’s pretty hard, though. Plus, Biden is no better, and then if we impeach him, the Secretary of State is like communist, and I don’t know who the heck goes after her, so yeah…pretty well not good. Just keep praying, no matter how much you disagree with his politics. He may change. God can work miracles. I’ve seen them. Let’s just hope He does one over on this country!
God bless you guys! Have a great Thanksgiving!
Wow. It’s sad to think that there is still racism in this country and bigotry. I was born in Puerto Rico but raised in New York. I consider myself to be an American just like everyone else who was born in this country or a US territory. I grew up learning the same thing everyone else did with the exception of hate and racism and bigotry. Sure, I learned about it, but did I want to go out and call someone a n***** or a wet**** because of where they came from? Hell no. I respect everyone equally no matter how stupid you or your views may seem. It’s high time we get someone in office that will get this country back to where it needs to be. In my own personal opinion I believe that the ones badmouthing Obama are the ones who are jealous because he is MORE American than they are.
Amen Sister. YOu’re right! Americca has a rude awakening. How many immoral associations does it take for the american people to see that this man may have some major and unfavorably issues. The massive amounts of money raised for his campaign in the middle of a economic diaster raises some flags.Whats this thing about the DEM.campaign insisting that the average American isn’t concerned with the “character” of any man running for the US, rather, what we want is more of is “Change” a word, that was the slogan. How dare you! Obama acted like he had a copyright on that word. “Change” Right ! What change?,None, He appointees the old Clinton cabinet. I guess people are clapping and screaming how brilliant that he is not going to keep his promises. He’s already made excuses. it was all a bluff.
A man with no experience, a Community organizer” in Chicago, that results in the worst voting corruption cases in the history of US . “ACORN” that had to embarrass him . associated with 11-16 states of proven fraudlent voting harassament practices. He was bought and paid for by corrupted people just a few mentioned that are in jail now or should be in jail: like real estate fraud , campaign organizer and extortionist Tony Resko, and terriost Ayers who should be, just to name a few. Or, wake up he gets paid off to turn his head about what was happening with economy and mortgages. as 2nd largest kickbacks from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,than any other Senator in history. He wasnt even in the senate for a 1-1/2yrs. Rev Wright, well he’s unbelievable. Scarr-y-y , talk about racist, He preaches his hate for whites and the American dream. What about Larry Sinclair in a news conference fearing for his life talking about how he was introduced to Obama admitting having gay relationship in great detail back in the 90’s while Obama indulged in crack cocaine. Obamas comments , on all of the above something to the sort he had no idea of these people beliefs and what they stood for, by golly. I was not aware of any immoral practices that these people demonstrated. So what I knew them for over 20 years. Wake Up, he may not even be an American Citizen, it has been noted and is still being challenged in court that the birth certificate may have been falsified and born in Kenya. Even his Grandmother alledegly admits this. To bad she is not around,to clarify this allegation unfortunatley she passed away a few days before he won the election.
Why didn’t Obama hand over his college records? What was the big deal? I hope and pray it all pans out for the best for the AMerican People ? I hope all allegations are false. This is more BS on one man than I ever have heard and still got elected. Please God I hope its all wrong.
I agree. You’re retarded. I agree with the fact that Obama shouldn’t be president. I also agree that with your language you have made your argument moot and are an embarassment to anyone who voted for him.
Typical of Left wing liberal hatered. Just can never be happy, unless degrading another human being. Just remember, this too will pass.
you lose.
And you are Curly, so what?
Hey! I resemble that remark. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
RealChicken…Why do you have to make PERSONAL insults..if you have something to add to the conversation that makes sense or has facts..fine..but talking about LJ looks is immature and makes you look like a little kid being hyper from drinking all that extra sweet kool-aid!..LOL! Put your picture up and let us see you..oh..you can’t cause your REAL CHICKEN!!!
Here’s the modus operandi–if you don’t have anything of substance to say, resort to personal insults.
And Barry’s kids seldom have anything of substance to say. Much like their Fearless Leader.
It’s because most of them have the mentality and maturity of a 12-year-old.
Unfortunately for Obama, his army of 12-year-olds can’t pay his DNC bills.
rite on! the b.s. the libs give out is eaten up by the looney voters as the gospel. that has been going on since fdr.the proof in the pudding will be if the impersonater running for the office is elected, and all who voted for him will be to blame the first time one of those arabs straps on some whatever and walks into a building loaded with people some where in the states and sests if off. then let those voters look into a mirror and say that the impersonator didn’t say that would happen. smokey
Obama certainly can run for president. His mother is an American. He was born on US soil…this makes him an American. I’m shocked at the outlandish remarks from the right. But I guess you have to pull at something. Your candidate just chose the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history. I join Joel Goldstein (scholar of vice presidency) and presidential historian Matthew Dallek as we shake ourr heads at the calamity of the McCain Palin ticket. I still can’t get over the choice.
Well, interesting comment with one major flaw. We do not know if Barack Obama was born on U.S. soil since he is afraid to provide his birth certificate. therefore we do not know if he is qualified to run for president. I had to provide my birth certificate when I got my passport. Shouldn’t Barry do the same for running for the highest office in the land. Makes everyone wonder what he is hiding??
i am 57 years old and seen enough. in 63 kennedy was killed and the last of the centrist demmocrats died with him. check the history of the congress starting in 65. you will find the enactment of vast federal expeditures that had enslaved “progressives” to the state. Welfare is available now to every “able bodied american” Ask not what your country can do for you”… john never envisioned the nanny state we now shamlessly embrace. We are going to see double digit inflation very soon. Plant a big garden and get a big gun to gaurd it.
Please people, people, people, JUST DO your homework on the left wing lying,hiding,decieving, liberals (OBAMA/BIDEN) and then click right (Right) wing religious MCcain/Palin 2009, for PRESIDENT. (nobamaEVER)
wow your a hipacrit you talk about liberals being disceptive and untrustworthy but your just as bad as what you say about someone or something you really dont understand all your trying to do by saying that is brainwash people into thinking the way you do! eat it bitch
obama is not an American where is his birth certificate and why is he scared to reveal it, he is a liar, if u vote for this chump we’ll see some changes alright but for the worse how can anyone support this P.O.S.
yeah, the last 8 years have been great for our country. what a terrible time for change.
Inexperienced????? I guess a community organizer is more experienced than an executive!?!?
Well she still has more experience than Obama and she is a US citizen. Do we know that Obama was born on US soil? NO there is too much evidence saying he was not. Why wont he produce his original birth certificate? That is what you need to ask. And in Sarah’s defense, I would be scared to say anything that is scrutized and wrong no matter what. Even Katie kept saying what do you read - yah and then they would have knocked her for anything she read.
I agree with Butch. If it is that simple and Obama doesn’t have anything to hide, just produce the birth certificate and prove your eligibility. As for his being “tested” if he wins, I will just be one angry citizen if the US looks more foolish after the election while we are proving that we just electred someone who wasn’t even eligible to run.
well I am glad Obama won, but I find the birth cerificate unusual as well.. the ariel font was not available in 1961, I believe that only the old fashioned typewriters were used, but sometimes I think we need to look at the bigger picture.. some constitutuial ammendments need to be revised, to keep up with the changing world… as not to outcast anyone that may be qualified for different Government Office, but, that is just my opinion.
We still can’t get over the choice of Obama!!! for President…so back to you!
We can now call it the “Black House” instead of the White House. You should read the Washington Times editorial on Sunday 11-2-08 on page B1 and find out what kind of America we will have after Obama. This is the America that my grandchildren will be living in. You don’t have a clue as to what is going on in this United States and evidently you only care about his color, or his looks. Read some our Obama’s liberal newspapers and you might find a little truth in them to learn something. Obama wants change…..that’s all you will have left in your pocket when he’s finished. Besides making this country a socialist country bepending on the government for everything. Don’t you have any backbone at all…Government should take care of our country and keep it safe, states should take care of the state, and the PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE THEMSELVES. Try getting a job and feeling good about it, paying your own bills and not asking mom or dad or government to pay them. The government tries to supply all the toilet paper now, pretty soon they will be wiping your butt for you … that’s what Obama wants. Grow up.
have you been asleep for the last 8 years? the “conservative” busy/cheney administration has made the government larger and more powerful than ever before. that’s the opposite of people taking care of themselves. you’ll see how much better things are in 4 years.. but i’m sure you’ll deny it anyway.
Give me the proof he was born in America. Barry fights and blocks every attempt to prove it, he just can’t exert the painful effort it would take to present a real unaltered one. It wouldn’t take more than 10 minutes. He spends all his money and time in lawyereze calling people not in “right standing.” Check the forensic scientists’ reports.
When did this get so ugly. I am sorry, but as a former Hillary supporter I am saddened by recent posts by you and others like you. We are Americans, people are watching. Don’t you want to reclaim the respect and adoration that others held for us again. I want to be respected around the world, not plotted against. Senator Obama is the right choice for right now. Instead of making mean comments, go educate yourselves.
You are such an idiot. Respected around the world u say….HA. What a stupid position considering that many of our so called friends are nothing but friends. France?? Think again. France has nothing but stolen from billions of dollars from the U.S. channeling billions of dollars via the U.N. to their own country.
As a widely traveled individual and associated with U.S. govt. missions,,,you are very ignorant of what the real international facts. Let me guess,,you get your news from CNN, MSNBC, ABC….
Go watch Fox News. Oh and by the way
Fox-a symbol of cunning and trickery. They dont even try to deny the fact that they are propaganda in their own broadcasting name lawl. gg. Ron Paul 08
AMEN
let me guess.. you get your news from fox news.
Are you nuts!!!
I must dissagree, the only reason some might think that Obama is “The right choice for right now” is because he is of African decent, not because he was qualified for the job. Also, why hasn’t he produce his “Original Birth Certificate”? I would like to add, I Hate the term “African-American” America should come first. I wonder how other americans of “color” like Jamacans, Dominican Rep., Hatians, etc… feel to be automaticaly grouped in and referred to as African-Americans. Since my parents are decendants of Italy and Germany, I would like to be referred to as German-Italian-American.
obama’s “army” of new voters are far more in touch with today’s society than you, or your old, rich croneys who’ve run the show for far too long.
-26 year old white conservative independent
and I, as white woman, dont like those PERSONAL attacks!!!
Stop this nonsense!!!
realchicken~ you could only wish to have intelligence like Larry~ who cares about the hair~ his words are golden…
also , he has run his mouth for over 18 months & still has not said a word that you can believe
Realchicken, if a haircut is what determined your intelligence and ability toward success Donald Trump would be on welfare! I think maybe your hair is too tight!
Larry, I believe that element you refer to, “or a citizen of the United States,” is further clarified by the following, “at the time of the adoption of this Constitution”.
Meaning that anyone of that era who was a citizen, a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted, but not born here, could be President. In other words they would be “grandfathered” into the eligible class.
The key is “a citizen at the time of adoption”. A very selective statement applying to all would had become citizens prior to the “natural born clause” being written, and the Constitution itself.
Would not apply once that body of citizens had died out. Would not apply to any one becoming a citizen AFTER the date of adoption.
Well, the practical purpose of that clause was to assure that there COULD be a President. You’ve got to remember that until the Constitution was officially adopted and ratified (by the necessary 9 of 13 states), there was NO United States of America. And if there were no country, there couldn’t be any citizens. (This is also the point invoked over Andrew Jackson’s being President. While most historians accept 1767 as the year of his birth, there is some doubt that he was actually born on American soil–claims range from his being born in one of the Carolinas or on the border between the two to having been born on a ship bound for the Americas to having been born in Ireland, from where both of his parents emigrated. As he was a “citizen of the United States at the time of adoption” of the Constitution–if nothing else, his service on the American side of the Revolution would have earned him that much.)
Prior to the adoption and ratification of the Constitution, there was no “United States” as we understand that notion today. There were 13 sovereign states which had formed a general alliance but maintained completely separate systems under the Articles of Confederation. The Articles did establish a “United States of America” but there’s not really any evidence that one was a CITIZEN of the “United States of America” or if one was a citizen of a particular state (such as being a Georgian, a New Yorker, a Virginian or whatever, rather than “an American”).
You are correct! Who can we give this information to?
I e-mailed Larry about this issue more than a week ago. I believe Obama is not eligible under the two parent rule of US citizenship. The INS has the best information on this issue and i don’t see how Obama is eligible.
Where is the media, the GOP, everyone on this issue? I don’t know of another President having this issue before.
Ummm. read Amendment XIV of the Constitution much? Everyone born in the US is a citizen at the time of birth, end of story.
Not exactly true.
Under the laws in effect at that time in Hawaii, where he claims to have been born, to be a citizen, a person must EITHER be born of two American parents (even if not born on American soil), OR have one American parent who lived within the United States for at least five years after their 16th birthday before the birth of the child. For him to be president, his mother had to be at least 21 when he was born. She was 18.
A state law that modifies an amendment of the Constitution? That would be what we call “unconstitutional.” Sorry, Amendment XIV prevails.
I can agree with your statement… states delegate laws that have no specific provisions in the federal gov’t… NOW… on to your candidate and his undeniable disdain for the 2nd amendment… unconstitutional…
all of this speculation would be put to rest if he would simply release his authentic bc. Doesn’t the FBI have to vet him? I mean no one is questioning that he is a citizen. But in order for him to run for POTUSA, he has to be “natural born “. There’s a new theory on the net and this has been written about by http://charliverse1.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-plan-for-fighting-gops-dirty.html
who, in turn got it from http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
In effect, the RNC has sent its operatives to Mombasa Kenya who were able to retrieve Baracks’s birth certificate there. They also had access to British intelligence information about Barack Sr. and information that an Arab Kenyan light-skinned woman is Barack’s mother, not Stanley Anne Durham. The RNC also claims to have a picture of Stanley in a bikini one month before Barry’s birthday. I have done an astrological analysis of the two charts both at 7:24 PM (one in Kenya and one in Honolulu).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr1GhSvuGcs
If the GOP has all this info and they can prove it, what do they intend to do about it ?????
Inquisitive minds would like to know.
You had me going there, right up until I read “astrological analyses”.
I did hear them discussing this on the news (PBS-”All Things Considered”) a couple days ago. Although they were not sure, it appears when he filed, he produced a US passport as proof of citizenship. IF he has a US passport, why did he need to supply a fake record of birth?
[WAIT, I just remembered - I believe, besides an original of your birth certificate or ROLB, that naturalization papers are also accepted for a passport. So they can check with the passport people to find out what papers were used for Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama Soetara.]
Oops, misspelled his Indonesean last name. Sorry, it should have read, “Soetoro”
I see a copy of Obama’s birth certificate. There is no signature on the document that I can see. All one has to do is go to the Honolulu county office register of documents it would seem. I think most birth certificates require a signature of an official and sometimes the county seal.
The submitted certificate of live birth has already been checked by a forensics expert and labeled a forgery. The question is why, and what, if anything, the government will do about it.
Since it is my contention that the elections are “fixed” anyway, whether he is a citizen or not, will not really matter. Whoever they want will be elected and if that is Obama, congress will pass a law retroactively that will allow him to hold the office.
That is what it boils down to.
Larry, you are reading the sentence wrong:
it reads:
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen at the the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President.”
so unless Obama was a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution or a natural born citizen, he is not eligible….
Please re-post this blog with this updated info!!
Also, Barack went to school in Indonesia, and you can’t go to school there without being an Indonesian citizen, so he would have had to trade his citizenship.
Which you can do until you are an adult!!! As long a your custodial parent is a citizen. I lived it!!!!!
The phrase, “or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the approval of this constitution” was inserted because many who were alive at the time of the document’s passage were actually born in other countries. Once all the original “citizens” not born in the US died, the previous clause in the sentence applied.
Well..and the Answer is….
The rule of law that applies to everyone else,,,does not apply to Democrats. Soo,,if Obama was born in France,,,it would not matter. AND,,you would find it hard to be reported by the main media. You got it…the main media CNN,MSNBC, ABC included are not to be trusted. DO NOT WATCH them.
This fact has been seen over and over again for the last twenty years.
Many examples to support that the Democrats do not have our country laws apply to them.
Indeed,,today’s Democrats are full of Deceit, Nonsense and Corruption.
To your question about Arnold. No he can’t be president. I’m not a lawyer, but its the phrase after “or a citizen of the United States,” that finishes the qualification. That is, “at the time of the adoption of this Constitution”. Otherwise, George Washington and those to follow couldn’t have been president, as no one born in the U.S, would be of age 35.
Regarding the Hawaii state law, not sure how Hawaii state laws (given Hawaii became a state a 1959) could supercede federal law. I doubt they did. Anyway, his mom was a citizen which makes him a citizen. Haven’t heard anyone questioning his mom’s citizenship.
Did anyone notice the date of the paper in the bottom left corner 11/01 Laser.
So they got the year of the seal on top correct but they messed up on the bottom.
Hey anybody know when I get my “spread the wealth” check? I’m running low on OE 800 and pork rinds.
Ahh, your emperor has no clothes. “To each according to his need, from each according to his ability” Karl Marx 1875. “Spread the wealth” Barry Soetoro/Obama 2008.
To the 52% who voted for this Alinsky styled Marxist…I hope your ready for the worst four years of your life.
I believe the requirement, that Ann Dunham be 21 in order to give birth to a ‘citizen’ will hold.
Additionally, in 1961 Barack Hussein Obama would not have been considered a US Citizen at the time of his birth. Citizenship was passed down by the Father.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/HAWAII/hawaii.html
Why does this law apply?
HAWAII is not a LEGALLY recognized STATE!
Well perhaps you’d better tell that to the two senators from that state and take away their electoral votes!
Hawaii is the 50th state. Still doesn’t mean Obama is a natural born citizen . . . thank goodness the founders realized there needed to be a way to only have America loving Presidents become 1/3 of our government.
THIS LAW WIL NOT HELP US
HI was a state- but this is a federal, not a state law. The law Larry is using only applies to childrenborn outside the United States- like McCain.
See here for an explanation:
http://www.visalaw.com/05jan1/2jan105.html
However, if he were born in Kenya- then he is toast.
Seems clear to me. He was born in the US, Period.
Well isn’t that informative. But unfortu