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	<title>Comments on: Update on Barack&#8217;s Birth Question</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-695523</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dufus, That is a phony certificate for a number of reasons. Do some research.</description>
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		<title>By: vonay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-391529</link>
		<dc:creator>vonay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama dad&#039;s WAS muslim..his mother was the athiest.</description>
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		<title>By: hillarylover</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-367311</link>
		<dc:creator>hillarylover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be just like the OMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be just like the OMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: hillarylover</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-367299</link>
		<dc:creator>hillarylover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow someone with a brain!Of course your not a hillary supporter.</description>
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		<title>By: hillarylover</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-367263</link>
		<dc:creator>hillarylover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a new copy of my birth certificate because my old one was torn it doesnt say copy on it maybe Im not a citizen?You also have to prove your a U.S. citizen to run for most public offices especially the senate.He doesnt have to prove something any half witt could figure out was a rouse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new copy of my birth certificate because my old one was torn it doesnt say copy on it maybe Im not a citizen?You also have to prove your a U.S. citizen to run for most public offices especially the senate.He doesnt have to prove something any half witt could figure out was a rouse!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-367204</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought his dad was a Muslim, and his mother was an atheist.  I don&#039;t know though, but I&#039;m not making an issue out of that.  
I never liked the parents who wouldn&#039;t give their kids medical help because it was &quot;against their religion&quot;.  The kid didn&#039;t choose that religion, you can&#039;t force religion on anyone...and that&#039;s forcing it.  So it doesn&#039;t bother me what his parents believed.  

What does bother me is that he speaks about deadbeat dads on fathers day (a day to celebrate dads...he should have given that speech on mother&#039;s day), yet he writes books praising how great his father was.  ???

Another thing that bothers me is that it doesn&#039;t matter to me what his parents feel about religion.  It matter what &lt;strong&gt;HE&lt;/strong&gt; thinks.  I found out how he thinks from Rev Wright and Rev Pfleger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought his dad was a Muslim, and his mother was an atheist.  I don&#8217;t know though, but I&#8217;m not making an issue out of that.<br />
I never liked the parents who wouldn&#8217;t give their kids medical help because it was &#8220;against their religion&#8221;.  The kid didn&#8217;t choose that religion, you can&#8217;t force religion on anyone&#8230;and that&#8217;s forcing it.  So it doesn&#8217;t bother me what his parents believed.  </p>
<p>What does bother me is that he speaks about deadbeat dads on fathers day (a day to celebrate dads&#8230;he should have given that speech on mother&#8217;s day), yet he writes books praising how great his father was.  ???</p>
<p>Another thing that bothers me is that it doesn&#8217;t matter to me what his parents feel about religion.  It matter what <strong>HE</strong> thinks.  I found out how he thinks from Rev Wright and Rev Pfleger.</p>
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		<title>By: reffie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-366995</link>
		<dc:creator>reffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s birth certificate wouldn&#039;t have &quot;Muslim&quot; listed as his religion because neither of his parents were Muslim. His father was an avowed atheist. Think up another smear kiddies, this one doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s birth certificate wouldn&#8217;t have &#8220;Muslim&#8221; listed as his religion because neither of his parents were Muslim. His father was an avowed atheist. Think up another smear kiddies, this one doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-366029</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loyal Hillary (and entire Clinton family) supporter.  I cannot stand O&#039;Bummer!!!

Only one parent needs to be a US citizen, and you can be born abroad, so that is really a non-issue with me.

Something just isn&#039;t right though.  The copy of the birth certificate looks fake, like many have said: no hospital name...did the mother not take her husband&#039;s name or were they even married? Maybe they couldn&#039;t get married in the US since the father was married to other women in Kenya, and it wouldn&#039;t be legal here?  That doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s not a US citizen (I would LOVE that though &amp; he&#039;d have to leave the race)...  

Little things that add up.  Like him saying in Selma that his parents got together because of the march on the bridge...which happened AFTER he was born.  Then when he said that JFK was responsible for his dad coming to study in the US, which was incorrect.  One thing may not seem so unusal, but it does when you add them all up.  And nothing adds up about his father.  I mean I heard him say something once about his brothers.  I&#039;m like &quot;What?  he has brothers???&quot;...

If he wants to help the world and bring about change...why not make a bigger deal about your African family?  Why not be proud?  Why not give them money?  Bill Clinton is doing more for Africa that Obama ever will in his entire lifetime.  I wish people would have noticed that.

One thing has been bothering me.  Maybe someone can help.  Back in 1961, different words were used, that are today now offensive, so I hope I don&#039;t offend.  I&#039;m trying to be historically correct, not offensive: but would a birth certificate (even if it is a copy, it is invalid if anything was changed)...anyway, would a birth certificate back from 1961 say the father&#039;s race was AFRICAN AMERICAN or Negro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loyal Hillary (and entire Clinton family) supporter.  I cannot stand O&#8217;Bummer!!!</p>
<p>Only one parent needs to be a US citizen, and you can be born abroad, so that is really a non-issue with me.</p>
<p>Something just isn&#8217;t right though.  The copy of the birth certificate looks fake, like many have said: no hospital name&#8230;did the mother not take her husband&#8217;s name or were they even married? Maybe they couldn&#8217;t get married in the US since the father was married to other women in Kenya, and it wouldn&#8217;t be legal here?  That doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s not a US citizen (I would LOVE that though &amp; he&#8217;d have to leave the race)&#8230;  </p>
<p>Little things that add up.  Like him saying in Selma that his parents got together because of the march on the bridge&#8230;which happened AFTER he was born.  Then when he said that JFK was responsible for his dad coming to study in the US, which was incorrect.  One thing may not seem so unusal, but it does when you add them all up.  And nothing adds up about his father.  I mean I heard him say something once about his brothers.  I&#8217;m like &#8220;What?  he has brothers???&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>If he wants to help the world and bring about change&#8230;why not make a bigger deal about your African family?  Why not be proud?  Why not give them money?  Bill Clinton is doing more for Africa that Obama ever will in his entire lifetime.  I wish people would have noticed that.</p>
<p>One thing has been bothering me.  Maybe someone can help.  Back in 1961, different words were used, that are today now offensive, so I hope I don&#8217;t offend.  I&#8217;m trying to be historically correct, not offensive: but would a birth certificate (even if it is a copy, it is invalid if anything was changed)&#8230;anyway, would a birth certificate back from 1961 say the father&#8217;s race was AFRICAN AMERICAN or Negro?</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-364510</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is still a debate because there is still questions in the mind of people with internet access regarding his eligibility. 

Internet access opens up a lot of information to people that no other medium does.

Just like any form of query or quest for information be it for scientific discovery, investigating a crime or research for your college thesis, when you find a piece of information and it raises more questions that you asked, you have keep going. You don&#039;t abandone your research because your effort has thrown up more questions and the task got harder? You follow your leads, each one to it&#039;s logical conclusion. Access to information facilitates this.

No information = no debate. Little information = little debate. Outside the internet, the msm has abrogated their duty to inform the public. Their silence on many important issues are deafening, to the detriment of democracy.   

Thank God for the internet, the bane of dictators and tyrants.

Bloggers who are asking these questions are the freedom fighters for democracy, for freedom of speech of the 21st century.

Others come here to stiffle that or distract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is still a debate because there is still questions in the mind of people with internet access regarding his eligibility. </p>
<p>Internet access opens up a lot of information to people that no other medium does.</p>
<p>Just like any form of query or quest for information be it for scientific discovery, investigating a crime or research for your college thesis, when you find a piece of information and it raises more questions that you asked, you have keep going. You don&#8217;t abandone your research because your effort has thrown up more questions and the task got harder? You follow your leads, each one to it&#8217;s logical conclusion. Access to information facilitates this.</p>
<p>No information = no debate. Little information = little debate. Outside the internet, the msm has abrogated their duty to inform the public. Their silence on many important issues are deafening, to the detriment of democracy.   </p>
<p>Thank God for the internet, the bane of dictators and tyrants.</p>
<p>Bloggers who are asking these questions are the freedom fighters for democracy, for freedom of speech of the 21st century.</p>
<p>Others come here to stiffle that or distract.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-364147</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of bloggers on the net right now who are demanding that Barack Obama pony up with his &quot;real&quot; birth certificate. In fact, there is a Federal suit demanding it to assess his eligibility to be POTUSA. He has a computer generated birth certificate on his site, but not one that is signed and sealed. Now, today another fellow blogger, Charles Bowley, from Massachusetts reported that &lt;em&gt;the RNC has already sent their operatives to
Mosamba, Kenya and have procured the birth certificate of Barack.&lt;/em&gt; What is really alarming is that the RNC has evidence to show that an &lt;em&gt;Arab, light skinned Kenyan woman, not Stanley Anne Durham, is the actual mother.&lt;/em&gt;
http://charliverse1.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-plan-for-...
So, just for discussion, I wanted to examine these two charts, assuming that the birth time is 7:24 PM, but obviously in distinctly different time zones. Because Hawaii is 8 time zones west of Kenya, the Moon obviously moved about 7 degrees. So let&#039;s look at the &quot;padas&quot; and the native&#039;s characteristics. At 3 degrees Taurus(Vedic) (Kenya chart) the person would be characterized as &quot;having a dislike for spiritual men (his pastors under the bus), doing actions which displease many people (there&#039;s a lot of angry Hillary supporters) and which go against scripture (apostate?),instigating others to action&quot;. Definitely. In the other chart (Honolulu) the Moon is at 10 degrees 2 minutes: the native is &quot;a passionate, (no I don&#039;t think so), greedy person (no, just questionable shady friends?) with impolite speech (definitely not Barack) and good looks (maybe on the planet Mars.)&quot; Obviously we&#039;re dealing with &quot;dirty data&quot;,but just for discussion sake, I seem to believe the Kenya chart.
here&#039;s the reading http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr1GhSvuGcs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of bloggers on the net right now who are demanding that Barack Obama pony up with his &#8220;real&#8221; birth certificate. In fact, there is a Federal suit demanding it to assess his eligibility to be POTUSA. He has a computer generated birth certificate on his site, but not one that is signed and sealed. Now, today another fellow blogger, Charles Bowley, from Massachusetts reported that <em>the RNC has already sent their operatives to<br />
Mosamba, Kenya and have procured the birth certificate of Barack.</em> What is really alarming is that the RNC has evidence to show that an <em>Arab, light skinned Kenyan woman, not Stanley Anne Durham, is the actual mother.</em><br />
<a href="http://charliverse1.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-plan-for-.." rel="nofollow">http://charliverse1.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-plan-for-..</a>.<br />
So, just for discussion, I wanted to examine these two charts, assuming that the birth time is 7:24 PM, but obviously in distinctly different time zones. Because Hawaii is 8 time zones west of Kenya, the Moon obviously moved about 7 degrees. So let&#8217;s look at the &#8220;padas&#8221; and the native&#8217;s characteristics. At 3 degrees Taurus(Vedic) (Kenya chart) the person would be characterized as &#8220;having a dislike for spiritual men (his pastors under the bus), doing actions which displease many people (there&#8217;s a lot of angry Hillary supporters) and which go against scripture (apostate?),instigating others to action&#8221;. Definitely. In the other chart (Honolulu) the Moon is at 10 degrees 2 minutes: the native is &#8220;a passionate, (no I don&#8217;t think so), greedy person (no, just questionable shady friends?) with impolite speech (definitely not Barack) and good looks (maybe on the planet Mars.)&#8221; Obviously we&#8217;re dealing with &#8220;dirty data&#8221;,but just for discussion sake, I seem to believe the Kenya chart.<br />
here&#8217;s the reading <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr1GhSvuGcs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr1GhSvuGcs</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-363977</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What unforgivable secret...you would have to ask him.

However, I suspect it reveals a lie...maybe even a couple of lies.

What relevance does that have today?  

If he can&#039;t even be honest about a birth certificate why would I trust him with my country or my rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What unforgivable secret&#8230;you would have to ask him.</p>
<p>However, I suspect it reveals a lie&#8230;maybe even a couple of lies.</p>
<p>What relevance does that have today?  </p>
<p>If he can&#8217;t even be honest about a birth certificate why would I trust him with my country or my rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy  Code Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-363247</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy  Code Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, if it &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; fake, one would think the state of Hawaii would make a stink about it; forging official state documents is generally frowned upon.

As I&#039;ve pointed out multiple times in multiple threads, I&#039;ve had to get a a certified copy of my  birth certificate, and it is not a faithful reproduction of the original hospital birth certificate.  It is an official document that states, &quot;yes, we have a record of this person&#039;s birth on file,&quot; but it does not reproduce all the information on the original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, if it <em>was</em> fake, one would think the state of Hawaii would make a stink about it; forging official state documents is generally frowned upon.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve pointed out multiple times in multiple threads, I&#8217;ve had to get a a certified copy of my  birth certificate, and it is not a faithful reproduction of the original hospital birth certificate.  It is an official document that states, &#8220;yes, we have a record of this person&#8217;s birth on file,&#8221; but it does not reproduce all the information on the original.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy  Code Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-363217</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy  Code Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where he was born is relevant to the question of eligibility; under which religion is not.  

He produced a document from the state of Hawaii that says, &quot;yes, we have this person&#039;s birth on record.&quot;   That settles the &quot;where&quot; question.  Everything else is irrelevant.  Whether his race was listed as &quot;white&quot;, whether his parents were married or not, whether they were Christian or Muslim or Wiccan or Subgenius, &lt;em&gt;none&lt;/em&gt; of that has any bearing on his eligibility to run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where he was born is relevant to the question of eligibility; under which religion is not.  </p>
<p>He produced a document from the state of Hawaii that says, &#8220;yes, we have this person&#8217;s birth on record.&#8221;   That settles the &#8220;where&#8221; question.  Everything else is irrelevant.  Whether his race was listed as &#8220;white&#8221;, whether his parents were married or not, whether they were Christian or Muslim or Wiccan or Subgenius, <em>none</em> of that has any bearing on his eligibility to run.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/16/update-on-baracks-birth-question/#comment-363121</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, because YOU say so.   

Yet another &quot;Nuff Said&quot; puffer.  

No, NOT &quot;end of story.&quot;  

The story&#039;s just beginning.  The questions, above, and below, are being asked. 

The question isn&#039;t just his CITIZENSHIP.  It&#039;s &quot;What WAS your name?  Who WAS your daddy?  Did you change any of that to something different?  If so....What&#039;s your name?  Who&#039;s your (adopted?) daddy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, because YOU say so.   </p>
<p>Yet another &#8220;Nuff Said&#8221; puffer.  </p>
<p>No, NOT &#8220;end of story.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The story&#8217;s just beginning.  The questions, above, and below, are being asked. </p>
<p>The question isn&#8217;t just his CITIZENSHIP.  It&#8217;s &#8220;What WAS your name?  Who WAS your daddy?  Did you change any of that to something different?  If so&#8230;.What&#8217;s your name?  Who&#8217;s your (adopted?) daddy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, have you turned EIGHT yet? 

That version of the certificate has only been around since 2001.

Look at the bottom left corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, have you turned EIGHT yet? </p>
<p>That version of the certificate has only been around since 2001.</p>
<p>Look at the bottom left corner.</p>
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