Race-baiting, Iraq and a Link to Troubled Blagojevich
By LisaB on June 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Democratic Party, Democrats, Foreign Policy, Hillary Clinton, Iraq, John McCain
1) Paul Krugman, in Monday’s NYT, opines that the Bush tax cuts are a “poison pill” that any subsequent administration will have to overcome. While Krugman sees John McCain as continuing to support bad policy, he also chides Barack Obama for not being more forthcoming about how his tax plan would affect the budget.
Seems like the give aways of the last few years are about to bite our collective tushies.
2) The race-baiting of Obama supporters continues. Because a particular McCain organizer trying to work with Hillary supporters is also involved in protesting Sally Hemmings’ descendants being recognized as Thomas Jefferson’s descendants, those Hillary supporters she is talking with must be
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RACISTS!
This [people supposedly talking with the McCain organizer], of course, is the faction of Clinton supporters — people who don’t like black people — where McCain has a very good shot at picking up new voters. The people who backed Clinton on feminist grounds or because they thought she had the savvy to deliver big time progressive legislation probably won’t be following in Abeles’ footsteps.
So, Hillary supporters, make sure to VET anyone trying to talk with you about your potential vote. Talking with the wrong person might get you labeled a racist. . .
3) Looks like Obama is getting ready to use his passport. He announced today that he would visit Iraq and Afghanistan before the election. During a phone conversation with Iraqi foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, Obama assured the foreign minister the US would have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq should he become the president. Obama also said he would support the withdrawal of troops, with most being gone by 16 months.
Also covered in more detail here, Obama finished the conversation by saying he looked forward to a face to face meeting in Baghdad. Mr Zebari may have been more impressed by McCain, however, who spoke face to face with the foreign minister on Sunday.
4) A small thing, but potentially very interesting is a throw-away line from Rahm Emanuel in a piece by Nico Pitney at the HuffyPot, (google it – I don’t link to them). Emanuel is discussing how he had a terrible time waiting to see which friend (Hillary or Obama) would win the nomination.
On the other hand, Barack and Michelle are friends, he says. “I’ve known him a long time. We used to sit around helping our governor get elected, help those strategy meetings, stuff like that.”
Another blogger noted this statement in particular and said Emanuel thus linked Obama directly to embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
* I don’t recall ever hearing about this, but the Republicans now have an avenue to directly connect presidential candidate Barack Obama to our embattled, investigated, unpopular and all but humiliated Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
Congresscritter Rahm Emanuel says Obama helped get Blagojevich elected…
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I’m assuming that since Emanuel said “elected,” he meant 2002, before it was widely known that Blagojevich had some seriously shady pals. Even so, Obama can now be tied to the Blagojevich shipwreck. Not good.
Rezkowatch picked up on this as well and added a couple of tidbits:
2. RW pointed out in the March 30, 2008, post DOJ Exhibit: Rezko’s Dirty Money—which discussed Prosecution exhibit: FBI analysis of Rezko fundraising for Blagojevich 2001-2004—that many of the same contributors who gave so generously to Blagojevich’s campaign via Tony Rezko also contributed to Obama’s political campaign coffers.
3. Evelyn Pringle pointed out in her series of articles that when a board deal went down in Illinois, and pay-to-play money exchanged hands, Blagojevich got his cut, and Obama got his.
This could be interesting. I haven’t seen anything tying Obama to Blagojevich either. Let’s see if this gets picked up anywhere.
5) In a rather petty but expected dig, Obama mentioned Google three times in a speech today. According to Ben Smith at Politico, this is code for “I know how to use a computer.” Probably Obama was oh-so-subtly trying to remind listeners that McCain, said “. . . it’s a Google” when responding to a question about locating information.
That Obama, he’s such a with it guy, up on all the tech lingo. I’ll be he’s been friended by everybody. BTW, any bets on how long it will be before we’re subjected to Obama podcasts??????
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ObamBi’s Cousin from Kenya is in the U.S.
RAILA ODINDA
WHY isn’t the MSM reporting on this?
How does that work? Musicians and artists are denied entry and a mass murderer is let in?
Because, if you deny him entry…YOU’RE A RACIST!!!
Lots of stories exist about Odinga, PM of Kenya.
He’s got a half brother studying in China!
That Barack Senior was a busy guy…..
OT a tad, but research just showed the following:
Aside from all the crap about Obama being born in Kenya or the USA, based on the date of birth being a friday and registration a monday, another question arises:
Obama’s parents were married and lived in Maui, Obama’s grandparents lived in Honolulu, different islands. Women prefer to have a birth with their regular doctors, which Obama’s mothers was obviously in Maui. So why the Honolulu birth on Obama’s fake certificate unless:
Since it was summer, Obama’s father could have been in Kenya with his other wife at the time of Obama’s birth and his mother was with her parents for support?
Under Hawaiian and US regulations to protect Hawaiian native rights, claims and heritage measures in place at time of Obama’s birth in 1961, a new borns race is stated and determined solely by the attending parents race at the time of birth, if Obama Sr was not present, then the childs race was determined solely by the mothers race.
Therefore on Obama’s original birth certificate it could be that his race was designated as white.
This being the case, anyone talking about Obama cannot be called a racist unless it is attacking a white man as defined by his designation at the time of his birth.
they were not legally married. his father already had a wife and children. duh!
I’ve never gotten an answer on that question.
Did I miss it?
I don’t think that affects Obama’s citizenship. Birth is birth. Don’t need a marriage certificate.
But it is curious that we might could call him a bastard and be politically correct.
Good catch. I’m betting this is correct.
Well… they could attack him as being “not white enough.”
so people here are mad at bloggers like Yglesias for calling you racist… and you’re mad at the rbc for only instating half the penalized delegates.. and you’
re mad at SDs for not picking your candidate.
but how in the world is any of that Obama’s fault?
and what’s with the gleeful opposition research stuff? Ooooh, maybe this’ll make Obama look dirty!
As if YOU BLOGGERS could succeed where Hillary Clinton couldn’t! She couldn’t convince a majority of Americans that he’s this chicago thug or muslim or radical or whatever it is today- you think YOU can?
thanks for your screen name, saves me the time of reading your posts…
Ahhh…I wondered where the race card was hiding and here it is, right under the joker.
What a great screen name!
Although, I dunno, “Fart in a Whirlwind,” might be apropos.
While we ponder this, why don’t you get out your Anime comics and your, “Special Sock,” turn off the lights and enjoy in the soft warm HUMMMMM that is YOU-ness!
Yup, not only yes we can, but YES WE WILL. Hillary’s tongue was tied by baby boy’s whining that she was a bad dem if she questioned him. OURS ARE NOT.
Some fun stuff I copied from other sites to share with you guys!!
this is too funny to pass:
The R-C probably has a sign for them: “Two Dipshits! NO Waiting!!!”
Speaking of class warfare, I think I will pull out my old Dils records…
LOL
Re: point 5 – I think one of America’s most-ignored priorities is increasing emphasis on STEM (sci/tech/engineering/math) education and jobs in the coming decades to counteract outsourcing.
I expected John McCain to have the advantage on this one, but seriously – he admits to not knowing how to use a computer? How can you expect me to believe he can develop a reasonable technology policy?
Computer boys can’t analyze for shit, not for SHIT, are not original.
Or smart.
Get it?
The larger issue is the ability to analyze information, which is what you’re really asking.
Reality means this is not an issue for McCain if he still understands the information. Accessing it, well, anyone can do it.
Look at our lil trolls…
Computer boys lost Iraq, for all the google in the world, and C++ knowledge, you have to look at the larger trends, here, tech has been stagnant, isn’t where it’s at, really, tech is a tool, in no way indicative of intellect, or capability. My keyboard has a MIDI function for writing music, I still have to supply the originality, I still see the need for originality, even though my Yamaha will write, and play, a song for me, with a one note input. Computer boys don’t know why this is inferior to Ives, say.
Computers are no different from a telephone, in the long run, sorry, woe to the individual who thinks a virus is the single answer to control.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Larry is better, that’s why a lot of us are here, he nails it, gets it, polls an afterthought, due to his inherient intellect, he can think.
But I understand the concern about jobs…
Makes sense. They strike me the same as engineers did in my youth.
*yawn*
I knew I should like those boys due to their potential, but I just could hardly stay awake during a date.
No, some are brilliant, but not this group, this is the group that thinks they are elite, for their highly limited ability to speak in rudimentary simple numbers, as opposed to understanding the implications of those numbers.
It’s like memorizing the numbers 1-5, and declaring yourself a genius, thinking that because as a resident of Springfield IL who has visited only Chicago, you have seen the universe, you’re sophisticated, well traveled, and elite.
Not true, at all.
And what YOU see in Chicago, and what I see in Chicago are two vastly different things, it depends on the viewer.
You’re right. At least I was impressed.
This group does fail to impress me on all levels.
So BO is a zero looking for the “one” ?
No Bo is the 1 who will get 0 electoral votes in November
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Most improve with age.
this is funny…
found some right wing site’s mockery is quite amusing… No wonder dems keep on losing, many of our candidates have no humor whatsoever… More fun to share with all of you on Coward Dean’s blunder…
LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPHElA7oo
Why would the Chinese want to help them? Most Chinese people love the Clintons. Bush was the one who sour the relationship.
“Obama also said he would support the withdrawal of troops, with most being gone by 16 months.”
Samantha Power has already told the world that this “plan” is a lie. Obama is a lying snake and I wouldn’t vote for him if I had been poisoned and somebody was standing next to me with an only for Obama supporters antidote!
Just saw Obama on a commercial for Army Wives television series(Lifetime). Does he try to take credit for everything? Ughhh.
yes he is the messiah the chosen one, and the prophesy. and he knows kung fu too… he is frickin no neo… and not as cute as neo either
I have a little challenge for our Obamaton posters.
There’s a big difference of philosophy in this campaign. I’m running against a man of Washington, by Washington and for Washington. Ours is a campaign that stands squarely on the side of the people and the families and the workers of America.
It’s time for new leadership to bring Republicans and Democrats together, to be able to say to our seniors “a promise made will be a promise kept,” to reject the old-style politics that tries to frighten seniors into the voting booth, to reject all that old business of trying to tear somebody down while the issues still remains.
I’m sure you can recognize the hopey changey feeling in those quotes, so tell me what speech they are from. And I’ll give you 1 tiny hint. The candidate raised more money for his campaign than any previous candidate in history.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Bragging about how much money one raises in politics is like bragging that your daughter can turn tricks faster than your mother.
Mel…
slow down
take a few deep breaths.
you’re saying that racism is impossible against Barack because his birth certificate claims him as Caucasian?
wow.
this is why “trolls and obamabots” come here.
we’re hooked on seeing what you’ll say next! amazing.
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
baracknophobia, that is not a birth certificate, it is a computer generated piece of paper anyone cam make.
You saying because it comes from Obama that it is the truth? Ok, so Obama said he was a product of Selma, true or not?
Why don’t you have your boss Axelrod produce a real birth certificate and debunk things, after all Obama promises transparency does he not, why does he not practice what he preaches?
Thios the change and new politics you are waiting for in Washington?
PodVet I’m gonna guess Ronald Regan. Second guess is Bill Clinton… and I garuntee if its NOT Bill Clinton I can find you a speech where he does say exactly that. But I really don’t know and I’m not too concerned. Obama obviously didn’t invent hope and bipartisanship, no one claims he did. I would have liked to see Hillary sound those themes more often.
Nope, Reagan and Clinton didn’t run on platforms of NOT being Washington insiders. And I don’t believe either ever raised more than any candidate in history.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
I’m going to guess Carter??
George W. Bush, right?
We have a winner!
From his Nov 3,2000 speech in Grand Rapids Michigan.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
I love the sum-up style of your article. Thanks. Particular kudos to you for not linking HuffPo. I won’t click on any TM article now, because she often links to that cesspool.
More fun stuff on that ABC News poll:
Run, “Shaka Zulu!” the four nights before the election. All the male African Americans over 12 will be transfixed by those nubile, brown Transvall Tata’s and oversleep.
Same ABC poll shows Obama running 20 points behind in white married suburban women.
And that 25-30% of Clinton voters still say they won’t vote for Obama.
25% of 18 million is a LOT of lost votes.
Well, that crowd of punks JEERING Granholm wasn’t helpful. Barack had to get up and “scold” them.
Fuck that shit–by his supporters we shall know him, and what we know about them is that they are idiotic, rude, overbearing jerks. He can kiss my PUMA!!
Yeah,, and while he was bragging what a great American Hillary is, he then TOTALLY MISQUOTED HER as saying:
“She said in her speech that her campaign broke the glass ceiling into 18 million pieces”
Actually, what Hillary said was:
“While we did NOT shatter the glass ceiling, it now has 18 million cracks through which more light is streaming through”.
THIS IDIOT DOES THIS ALL THE TIME – he twists words, others and his own, into totally different, or – as above – opposite meanings, with nary a care. He is SO IRRESPONSIBLE he makes GW look like a model of conscience. Just when we thought we’d hit the bottom of the barrel, along came bozo, showing us what SLIME remains to be cleared from our planet.
Any who haven’t gotten to it yet, come to send your timely note of personal THANKS to Hillary and link into the new ACTION central:
http://unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com
Has anyone seen what kind of loan Obama got on his house? Did he get a sweetheart loan?
Probably…..haven’t seen it.
His loan is in a trust formed by a company connected to Rezko and Auchi.
Really….wild.
His loan is in a trust formed by a company connected to Rezko and Auchi.
I read it was a numbered trust. Northern…
What info are you refering to here? Love to know. Thanks
Go to REZKOWATCH
It has compiled the Obama-Rezko corruption data down to a Tee.
In fact if anyone here hasn’t read Rezkowatch, please take the time to read it. You will learn more about that worthless bastard Obama than you’ll ever want to know.
Zeke I have spent a “much” time there”…
and you are corrert, there are years worth of reading.
The house was put in a numbered trust, but valsthewoman implied something I had not heard of so I was curious to what she referred to.
What is interesting is that disclosure of principles of the trust are not required by Illinois law to be public. So at the time the Obama’s might not have been the only principles of the trust. Rezko did this with Jamil JR and is being sued over it. Everything Rezko touched was either trust or layered LLC.
(This was mention in relation to a recent story on Dennis Hastert’s use of a land trust and 350 mil in pork for a major road to built near said property….)
BO’s house was put in a trust on the advice of Rezko. Rezko funded it, did the walk thru, and became a flight risk because of it.
Ask Rezko. The trust was the entity “getting the loan”.
I love the Blagojevich connection. Now this is getting juicy.
Agreed, Blago just a buffoon, and a creep, the twins, they are, Obama, and Blago…
LOL
Uhhh… “connection”? He helped his party’s candidate for governor get elected?
I weep for the time and energy lost by the hate-filled hators.
I felt the same way about the Hillary haters, undercover.
But he can’t win in November because of Hillary hate.
He’ll have to win on his own merits this time.
Comment by Barak Osama | 2008-06-17 11:14:44
The obamatrons know, that NoQuarter is where people can hear the unfiltered truth about Obama
yup, I come here for such truths as “Obama hides his birth certificate”
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
or the “Michelle said Whitey” chestnut…
actually I come here because to witness unprecedented cognitive gymnastics that you guys come up with. The creativity is astounding!
“Therefore on Obama’s original birth certificate it could be that his race was designated as white.
This being the case, anyone talking about Obama cannot be called a racist unless it is attacking a white man as defined by his designation at the time of his birth.”
WOW! I love this stuff. Keep it coming guys.
Thats not his birth certificate, and no matter how many times Obamatons try to lie and say it is, it wont magically become a legal document. Without a registrars seal and signature it is as legal as a 3 1/2 dollar bill.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Why haven’t we seen Hillary’s birth certificate?
Answer: Because her citizenship, like Obama’s, was not an issue, anymore than the flatearth society’s claims are.
Than hand it over you hypocrite, you demanded Hillary’s tax return, and Mccain’s Medical report. Well, we demand Barky’s REAL birth certificate.
AND his medical records!
And his state senate records.
Bu-bu-but sleepy, Hillary Clinton is a human being which comes with a birth certificate while the other in question is simply worm castings running for prez. Worm castings never recieve birth cerificates.
yeah i doubt he could even vote with that so called birth certificate… or even get a library card for that matter…
Don’t worry we will. And Obama will have to spend even more money on his bullshit “fight the truth..er…smear” website. He’s already in the hole. We’ll bleed him dry.
Sounds good to me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPHElA7oo
Actually, you bring up an interesting topic that has yet to be explored in a rant.
That’s what gyrations the Obamabots had to go through during the primary season.
I bet a lot feel like they have a hangover and blame Hillary.
It’s really due to the NAFTA-GATE, BITTER-GATE, RACE SPEECH….OH WAIT, WE WERE JUST KIDDING-GATE, WAR-SPEECH-GATE, ELECTION-RIGGING-GATE….
It’s exhausting to even think what it must have been like for you supporters to go along to get along with so many flagrant abuses of political power.
Once again, I’m reminded, tis’ better to have lost and stayed true to principles than have to sleep at night justifying lies and subtrefuge.
Put a plop-plop-fizz-fizz into your Kool-aid.
Take a break.
You’ll feel better eventually.
Question baracknophobia, did you fail school and this the only job you could find?
If so, will respect obama at least for hiring drop outs, send him our regards on that count, ok?
FYI again, that is not a birth certificate, but you already know it is just a computer generated piece of Obumapaper don’t you?
Hey, say Hi to Bill Ayers also when you see him in Obama’s HQ again, and find out if he is going to bomb anything after Obama gets wiped out in Nov, if he is the DNP nominee after the convention ok?
Aw, we love you obamabots too, Stupid is as stupid does and life is grand behind cult rose colored spectacles and Obama and his thugs are spectacles of the nth degree. You kids and black voters are being duped and used just like the center part of the Democratic party only you all are too ga-ga to see it yet. Obama is just like Bush; only a left nut instead of a right nut.
Nobama.
We even do ad hominem, like, Fuck YOU, you supercilious little oral copulator!
Go screw yourself, pencil dick.
Naaaah. You don’t come here for that.
You come here because you’re AFRAID.
You’ve got that finger in the air, testing the wind.
And the wind is blowing.
It’s a hurricane brewing.
But then, when you see how Team Obama treats Granholm, you fucking well should be afraid.
We don’t take kindly to that sort of thing. Never have. Yet, still, you clowns keep it up.
And then, cluelessly, you wonder at our annoyance.
“Father” Pfleger to address his suspension during his sermon this Sunday. That should be a goodie.
http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/1008912,CST-NWS-sabina17.article
I’ll bet a wheel barrow full of cash, he says something else stupid.
I can’t watch that guy. He’s just too bizarre.
But then, I don’t like a lot of comediennes either for the same reason.
I’m a Jon Stewart type of gal. Understatement is more appealling to me.
Jon Stewart would think that you’re a nutcase.
Uh, Jon Stewart is not stupid, and he is of Jewish background. I can’t help but feel he’s a little unsure of Barky as well. Has Barky ever appeared on Jon Stewart, live? I know he did a taped interview. And Jon has been an outspoken critc of the underhanded way politics is being run. IE Obama ansd Bush
shouldn’t feed the trolls
Thank you, sweetie.
Is that what he told you when you were giving him a Rusty Trombone last night?
He should get assigned to a middle-class predominantly white church where he can learn tolerance and practice the words his church is suppose to teach.
I DO hope Pfleger doesn’t say anything that might jeopardize all the millions of dollars Barak Obama gave him in earmarks.
Podvet:
Nope, Reagan and Clinton didn’t run on platforms of NOT being Washington insiders.
sure they did.
Well I just checked a dozen of Bill Clinton’s speeches from his announcement through his Presidential acceptance speech, and I don’t see where he said it once. So if you can provide me with a link??? Though I doubt it, since that is clearly not what his campaign was about.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
George W. Bush was the HOPEY CHANGEY candidate of 2000. Why are these trolls so blind? If you take a look at Bush’s campaign, a sad lot will look familiar.
BTW, Bush also had some background issues that he didn’t want the public to know. So you know what he said? “Why can’t we stick to the issues…”
Sound familiar, trolls?
I couldn’t agree more, even the descriptions of the campaigns are similar. In 2000 this is how GW’s campaign was described:”The money he has raised along with the support he has received, while articulating no real message for America’s future is amazing. His popularity is a classic example of the bandwagon.”
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Because in 2000 they were upstairs in their parent’s house, locked in their rooms, doing that which causeth said condition. Sith then it’s become a lifestyle choice.
LOL!
Link, please?
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0011/03/se.04.html
George W. Bush at a rally in Michigan just before the 2000 elections…
“It’s (the country) ready for bipartisan leadership.
It is ready for a leader who will bring this great country together. No, that’s what this country wants. They want a leader who understands how to lead, how to bring folks together to achieve the people’s business. As you’re out campaigning for us, make sure you talk about the issues, because people when they hear it are going to find out, we stand squarely with the people.
There’s a big difference of philosophy in this campaign. I’m running against a man of Washington, by Washington and for Washington. Ours is a campaign that stands squarely on the side of the people and the families and the workers of America.”
Now, Bush’s ideas were definitely conservative, but his message was that he was a different kind of candidate.
Bush was running on his TX experience where he was able to achieve a measure of bipartisan (so I hear.. I’m from Chicago)
The Democrats in Washington had no intention on working with him
It’s not his fault.
Bush is a very moderate conservative.. that the Dems were able to make him out to be Pat Buchanon is just a demostration of how effectively they demonized him.
Uh-huh. So does anyone think Obama will have a better chance getting the republicans to work together than Bush did with the democrats?
I don’t think so.
He had a Republican majority.
And now we have a democratic congress that has the lowest approval rating IN HISTORY!!!
Sadly, even lower than Bush’s.
We’re in trouble, folks.
I don’t know about you, but I like Canada more and more all the time. Even in those sucky winters, you can run down to Havana for cheap, smoke good cigars, fress with foxy senoritas, mambo ’til the Band and your housekeeper, bartender and doctor all grab a truck inner tube and Raft Away to Key West!
So MANY Cubans want so MUCH to see Hemingway’s house, drink at Sloppy Joe’s and ride the Conch Train!
I think most Obama supporters feel great
Nah*….my son is an Obama supporter but not the stupid type.
He’s worried.
The polls aren’t good.
He got no expected bump.
I think it’s the same as in the primaries. What you see now?
That’s his max.
No enough. He can’t close the deal.
yes in the end she even won a state by 10 points that she was supposed to lose handily. she was the one making inroads while he was losing his luster… also she wasn’t originally supposed to win indiana either… gosh i miss hillary. she is the one who inspired the politics buzz because with her fight she kept it in the spotlight.
I look at the rate of Obama trolls posting and the level of hostility in their posts to measure how well Obama’s campaign is doing. It is not doing well.
>>> No enough. He can’t close the deal.
No Shit, Dick Tracy!
Anninca
I didn’t like Obama’s “bitter” comments one bit, but taken as a whole, I like him as a candidate. It took no mental gyrations to do so. To be honest Hillary lost my vote in October 2002. Figure it out.
The other so called “gates” never bothered me. I think you need to WANT to see scandles there to actually think they constitute serious scandles. No mental gyrations required. The Clintons have also had clouds of suspicion over them in a number of “gate” type situations… and they came out stronger.
I come here because I perceive very creative and leaps of logic here that entertain me- I’m quite morbidly fascinated in your movement.
“Morbidly facinated”… that’s me too! This place is a bizarre petri dish of contemporary American political culture.
Plus I have to keep coming back to see when Larry will apologize for the “whitey tape” lie.
Are you still here?
BO spore troll? What will AXE think of next to load the BO “CRAP CANNON” with?
baracknophobia To be honest Hillary lost my vote in October 2002. Figure it out.
Let’s see, figure it out, as Obama says ummm err ahh, ok got it!
2002 is when you swore forsakened all happiness, found a false lord in Rev Wright and was baptized into Trinity UCC. Gee that really wan’t hard to figure out at all!
Say Hi to Rev Wright on Sunday for everyone will you, and warn him that at his age, the gyrating thing looks foolish and isn’t good for old brittle bones, thanks!
That’s OK. You’re a “war voter.” I’ve never been a single-issue voter, but there were a lot of you this year.
And good for you for being curious enough to actually want to see how we’re thinking.
Hopefully, you can cut the wheat from the chaff. If not, that’s OK, too.
There are some very serious and real issues we’re bringing to the table.
We may lose. But we’re not going to stop making it an issue.
You lost the war vote, with the public.
Democrats I’d admired for years lost their seats due to voting against Bush.
That was a “war-time mentality” nationalistic period.
I understand that you dug in your heels.
Even me, who says, “Wait….let’s see if we can emerge here without another Viet Nam defeat,” knows that this was not a justifiable war.
It may well kill the US, too, due to the cost.
I’ve always thought we’ll be defeated just how we defeated Russia. They’ll bankrupt us. LOL*
(I laugh, because I’ll be dead.)
But I do get your perspective. And I always respect someone who truly wishes to hear out the other side.
I posted for months at HuffPo for the same reason. I was always respectful that I was the minority voice.
Still…..I got booted. But that’s HuffPo.
This site isn’t into that kind of manipulation.
You’ll be fine as long as you stay away from calling everyone here racist or worse.
They visit and post because that is the job they got assigned over at the Obama clear the smear cyber war room.
Given the facts as presented, I would have been very upset if Senator Clinton had not given authorization. The facts are not much different then as they are now with Iran, and Obama has said military options are on the table with Iran. Either Obama is a hypocrite, a liar, or just clueless.
Trolls are boring, they only make good vehicles to get people to vote for McCain.
Yeah, if they had high speed instead of dial-up, they’d actually be irritating.
They neglect to mention that many of Obama’s supporters voted FOR in 2002, also.
INCLUDING Edwards, Kerry, and Daschle.
Bit inconsistent.
Yeah,and you voted for Nader in 2004, right? Because of October 2002? You better have, because if you voted for Kerry, then you can stick your War Vote shit right back up your behind where it came from.
“Leaps of logic.” Say what?
It only takes a few Google searches to find out what a fraud Obama is. NO leaps of logic required.
http://perrylogan.org/images/SameLame.jpg
Then you understand — as a single issue voter — why I am not voting for him:
Every single time I turn around, he is contradicting himself ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PJzMHObabo
Look, Mack is a loon.
NO ONE cares that he graduated from the Belly Button School.
Repukes who call themselves Conservatives will tolerate him, so long as he says something like, “No New Taxes,” and lets them make other people’s sex lives their business.
He’s a self-aggrandizing, one-beat-off-the-song yo-yo who’s never had a Private Sector job, never met a payroll, never had to put the house up to keep a company afloat. In fact, no one with his last name in his bloodline has, apparently weaned themselves off that big, fat, DoD titty.
We KNOW he’s crooked, when he thinks he can get away with it. See, “Keating Five.”
He’s just so damned dumb that he thinks Cock Robin is a felony. (Although he’s a Metric Shitload smarter than the Addled Puppet Reagan).
The difference between him and Hope-a-Dope is:
He’s My Guy!!!!!!!!
I will vote for Johnny because it’s a good test of the “Democratic Legislative Majority.”
They’ll have to WORK to get legislation passed. De Facto President Harry Reid and De Facto VP Nancy Pelosi will have their work cut out for them, crafting INTELLIGENT law and whipping the shit out of a recalcitrant group of slackers to ensure that legislation is put forward in an expiditious fashion, and anything vetoed by Johnny gets Ye Olde Override in short order.
Johnny will have to deal with those two, and they’ll throw him a bone every so often so he can create an untrue impression that he’s a Party Line Crosser Who Gets Things Done–that way, he’ll be less inclined to use the Bully Pulpit to get everyone’s balls all discombobulated and have a big fat pie fight going on constantly….if McCain can make his tenure look like Ike’s, he’ll be a HERO. If the leadership in Congress can get our agenda through the pipeline without angst, THEY’LL be heroes, too. Everyone wins.
People ARE tired of DRAMA. And Obama-Drama is particularly tiresome.
Though my choice remains HRC, I can deal with four years of Johnny. He doesn’t scare me a bit. Harry and Nance will just have to pinch his cheek and “deal” with him every so often. But politics IS the art of compromise.
They keep rerunning the hooting/booing/derision of Governor Granholm in heavy rotation. All that shit does is make party loyalists, who have been with the party for decades, have less angst about raising that middle finger and telling Howard and his posse to go fuck themselves.
The trolls do like us proles because we inappropriately exercise our free will. Their leader wants them to purge the internet of our manifest thoughtcrimes.
“I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.” – Voltaire
How are things going in the Hillbot bunker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Ky1_pyn6Q
‘Danger Signs’ as Clinton Supporters Resist Obama
“Danger signs for Obama” are signs of safety for the real core democrats.
Hear, hear.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, lookit the little Obaby CRY in his fucking diapers!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Sorry, Mommy Clinton ain’t gonna help your stinking sexist ass, asshole.
Actually, his 6 point lead is down to a 2 point lead now. He’s trending DOWNWARD.
With the margin of error, that’s a dead heat.
that was a great article. basically he does not have the support he promised the dnc he would get. what a great uniter he turned out to be… go away bo please… go back to kenya and enjoy your dual citizenship as a kenyan for the next 8 years while hillary is president…
BO could not close a deal on a used car if he was giving it away.
He couldn’t Close the Deal with an adult Oakland hooker…probably thinks she’s trying to sell him HerbaLife.
The totalitarians in training are adopting their standard tactic of flooding the website as a means of preventing citizens who do not share their perspective from having a place to congregate peacefully. They HOPE to CHANGE this site by drowning out our voices with their cacophony. Their actions are evidence that they lack the notion and spirit of equality, fraternity, and liberty that, as an ideal, founded the modern Western democracies and republics. Not only are they evidence of Milgram’s conclusion that Americans are just as likely to submit to authoritarianism as Germans, they are also proof that Americans can joyfully yoke themselves to authoritarian practises.
Disregard them , they are afterall just worm castings
obama to staff upon hearing that crazy ole Father Pfleger is back and will address his congregation at St. Sabina’s this Sunday
“I HOPE you don’t mind, but I have to go CHANGE my underwear.”
okie dokie
(chuckle) u 2! LOL
A ludicrous assertion. A truer assertion would be we don’t like Barack Obama. And we don’t like his supporters either.
And so, I would say in return:
This [people who are criticizing the people who are exercising THEIR RIGHTS UNDER DEMOCRACY by talking with the McCain organizer], of course, is the faction of Obama supporters — people who don’t like Women.
Well, rev Wright half way hates Obama because supposedly Obama is half white. I don’t know what Michelle thinks of him . Suppose I will have to wait for Larry’s Tape to find out.
Besides interfereing with conversation, uppity, do you think they are trying to incite a racist comment in order to justify themselves?
just curious
I would be SO glad to accommodate them…
Has there ever been such division in the Democratic party? Has there ever been a movement — tee shirts, websites, etc. — opposing your own party’s presumptuous selection? Shouldn’t this just scare the crap out of them? The really horrendous stuff has been totally off the radar … the Republicans have held it and will hold it. August is going to make the days in December look long light.
Obama letting McCain lead the way. Issues a statement after McCain has already been there. The main reason both are going there, to raise funds for their campaigns.
The US economy is contracting at an alarming rate already and many donors are maxed at this time, thus he tries to take on new bundlers, like Code Pink.
Obama is trying to ring up Clinton donors through Doyle(that’s a reach) and McCain has to go overseas to fund raise now. There’s no ‘there’ for Barack when he thinks ‘there’ is Clinton money for him, the way he campaigned and had his people villify Clinton voters, so he best copy John McCain and go overseas to get some new money.
He’s a step behind McCain in directing diplomatic visits. For someone who supposedly has diplomacy in mind to replace war, he’s lacking critically in those departments, minus a visit to his terrorist relative in Kenya, who has come here to visit now?
Guess who’s coming to dinner. Butchered women and children on the menu? Odingapalooza will continue its terror tour. The money is coming to Barack after all, it’s blood money. Wonder if Odinga is connecting the Ayers umbrella of NGO?
Obama also cares about Afghanistan enough to not hold European Affairs subcommittee meetings. Et tu, NATO?
I think he’s going to flee the country.
Will they let him back in?
Do ya think ne needs a little Travellin’ Money?
Will he stay away longer if we give him MORE?
Most important:
IS he taking South Side Chicago’s Answer to Jackie O with him?
Obama’s campaign diplomacy is sure as hell lacking. Maybe “diplomacy” is not recognized by the black liberation society.
“Gemmie Some” is diplomacy?
when your once GREAT Nation is having to resort to OUTSOURCING it’s fund raising campaigns you KNOW you are gonna have to PAY THE PIPER in ways you never imagined.
Condi “flippen” Rice sat right there and proclaimed “we never imagined terrorists would use planes as missiles”
Americans need to WAKE UP and start imagining again!!! Critical thinking has been on holiday!
Tom clancy used it in a book written in the 1990s
>>> Tom clancy…
Another asshole who has heard damned few shots fired in JOY and NONE Fired In Anger who wants to tell little gnurds with little peckers how the REAL men do it!
Go back to peddling insurance, Clancy.
I Fart in your General Direction!
She lied…there were a lot of govt reports that had imagined planes as missles.
There are still a lot of great people in govt who tried to offer their best advice to the Bush Admin.
Which makes opposing Obama so important.
It is WHO is listening to those great people that makes the difference.
you all did hear that saint barack did confuse the titles of iraqs leaders?
You think BO will hit Auchi’s new Bank in Kenya? I think BO needs some “micro” loans…
Dear Uppity,
Your response might be too cogent for the observation-neutral theorists who are trying this location for their kool-aid stand. Shouldn’t their polling tell them that our demographic likes real juice?
Yours,
Steven
(snarky chuckle)
BITCHIN’!
I gotta paste that into the middle of a Mondo-Snooz-o bid document, back under the LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Blagojevich&search=tag
Does Obama have two birth certificates
Are There Two Obama Birth Certificates?
HillBuzz weighs in on the Obama birth certificate controversy–the candidate’s refusal to release a copy to clear up doubts about his place of birth:
In Kenya, where Obama’s father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenya’s government. This is a custom in Kenya, when a baby is born to a Kenyan citizen overseas: that birth is recorded in Kenya in addition to the United States, or wherever. The blogs have been buzzing with the fact that GOP operatives have been to Kenya researching Obama’s past, and Obama’s father and other family in Kenya, and it appears they have obtained a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
The reason this is interesting is something no one has caught yet.
In some foreign countries, a baby’s religion is written on the birth certificate, particularly in countries with multiple religions. If Kenya is a country that requires this note on a birth certificate, and if Obama’s father had “Muslim” written on his birth certificate, then Obama has a lot of explaining to do.
The existence of a Kenyan birth certificate could account for this headline in USAfrficaOnline: http://www.usafricaonline.com/news.html
Is Obama’s new strategy to copy what McCain says and does? He’s going abroad? Me too.
Why not? He spent the whole primary copying Hillary’s policies.
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>>> There is one over there now where the ‘bots are trashing Lieberman.
I’ll be dipped in shit and rolled in breadcrumbs.
I KNEW there was some redeeming social value to those skanky little piles of weasel poop!
GO, ‘bots, GO!!!!
I personally think Obama’s failure to placate his base……is a huge indicator that he lacks real judgment.
He insulted his mentor.
That’s that.
Boy, I bet the Dem’s are happy they picked Obama! Since his debacle of not vetting the vetter VP committee..now comes word there are 6 Democrats that also got sweet deals from Countrywide. One being Sen. Dodd of CT who is on the list for VP. They must be so proud!
Dodd and Conrad, the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, denied they had sought out or received any special deals.
“I was never told I was given preferential treatment. I didn’t ask for it, didn’t seek it, and as far as I know, I didn’t get it,” Conrad was quoted as saying by the Post.
Dodd, who has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick, said: “As a United States senator, I would never ask or expect to be treated differently than anyone else refinancing their home.”
The reports come shortly after former Fannie Mae chief executive Jim Johnson was forced to resign as an adviser to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama following a report in the Wall Street Journal alleging he received favorable treatment on loans from Countrywide.
Should be easy to verify. Countrywide was a publicly-traded company at the time and I DO believe that the records are Public.
If not, certainly subject to a Congressional subpoena.
Countrywide has been slimy for years.
They tried to steal my friend’s house which they bought with a VA loan.
They had made payment arrangements and rather than honor those, Countrywide made an immediate demand to the VA to pay off the loan.
I informed her, now that they falsely demanded the full amount in a letter, she could sue them and have them pay the entire loan.
She had been trying to get them to honor the payment arrangement and they basically told her, oh well. Until she came back with the collection law info about demanding the full amount.
Then they were all nice and accommodating about the arrangement and withdrew the demand from the VA.
Hillary must have a smile on her face, sitting back and watching all this unfold.
I really hope she has something up her sleeve and will somehow run in the fall so we can have a respectable Democrat to vote for.
The McCain/Clinton ticket would be a sure winner!
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