Hillary Supporters Meet with John McCain
By NoBO on June 18, 2008 at 5:10 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Chicago, Current Affairs, DNC, Delegates, Democratic National Convention, Dems4McCain, Disenfranchisement, Fox News, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Keith Olbermann, Michigan, Misogyny, Obamedia, Qualifications, Republicans, Sexism
Something extremely unusual happened on Saturday afternoon, Flag Day, June 14. A group of about 75 Democrats, ardent Hillary Clinton supporters, met with Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president. Was this some sort of fringe group? Not at all. Just a small cross section of the Democratic party–black, white, Hispanic, Asian, male, female, straight, gay, Liberal to Centrist. So why were we visiting the Arlington, Virginia, campaign headquarters of Senator McCain?
Why We Were There
During a primary season that lasted six months, nearly 18 million voters chose Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to be the presidential nominee for the Democratic Party. That was more votes than for any primary candidate in American history, and 300,000 votes more than the presumptive nominee received. During the last four months of the campaign, the punditry and the commentariat relentlessly urged Hillary to quit, despite the fact that she was so close in the popular vote and the delegate count.
Never before has any candidate been so incessantly hounded by members of the political commentariat. Not even candidates who were several hundred delegates behind like Ted Kennedy in 1980 who took his fight all the way to the convention. How come no one tried to hound him out of the campaign? The most common answers are sexism, DNC bias, and hatred of the Clintons.
Sexism
The appalling incidents of misogyny and sexism against Hillary exhibited by many members of the broadcast and print media, both male and female, were legion during this campaign. There were daily sexist jokes against Hillary during the monologues of both Jay Leno, the worst perpetrator, and David Letterman. The worst broadcast network was NBC and the worst cable network was MSNBC, with CNN a close second.
The sexism was used as a weapon by stations owned by NBC which include MSNBC, CNBC and several local stations. General Electric owns NBC so the question is, where did the order for the bias originate, GE or NBC news? Who’s the bad guy in this, the head of NBC News or the CEO of GE? My vote for worst person in the world goes to Keith Olbermann. This article in The New Yorker sheds some light on him: ONE ANGRY MAN.
Most commendable throughout the campaign was Fox News Channel, a station that actually lived up to its slogan, “Fair and Balanced.” A special shout out goes to CBS’ Katie Couric who made a point during her Evening News broadcast of noting the immense level of sexism used against Hillary throughout the campaign. Brava!
Millions of women are outraged at all the sexism and misogyny and take it personally as an attack on them, not just Hillary. They weren’t just attacking a female candidate, they were attacking all women. They were attacking the progress an entire generation of women thought they had made, as my wife put it.
DNC Bias and Hatred of the Clintons
As if the sexism wasn’t bad enough, Hillary was also placed at a disadvantage by her own party throughout the campaign, starting last year. A proposal was passed that went beyond the DNC rules and stripped MI and FL of all delegates for violation of the timing rule. Since those states heavily favored Hillary, she was immediately placed at a disadvantage. It didn’t matter that three other states also violated the timing rule.
A meeting of the Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) at the end of May resulted in the seating of all the delegates from those states at the convention, but with half votes, similar to the original DNC sanction for a timing violation. The half vote provision should not have affected superdelegates, but the RBC had no interest in abiding by its own rules.
What really angered Hillary supporters was the arbitrary way in which 59 uncommitted Michigan delegates were assigned to Obama while four earned, pledged delegates were taken away from Sen. Clinton, and given to Obama. That was an outrageous violation of the DNC charter, a blatant disregard of fair reflection, the basic tenet of the party.
That was the last straw for many of Hillary’s supporters, who immediately left the party as a result. Numerous new Web sites and blogs sprang up. To get an idea, see Just Say No Deal.
As for hatred of the Clintons, that’ll have to be another article for another day. Whatever the reasons, there was nothing to warrant the treatment Hillary received during this campaign. Also, nothing warranted the savagely brutal treatment that Hillary’s supporters received at the hands of Obama supporters, both online and in the field.
Bloggers and diarists supporting Hillary were called all sorts of names and dangerous attempts were made to uncover identities. Campaign workers in the field were subjected to name calling, harassment, and sexist remarks by SEIU members in Pennsylvania. Never before had Democrats been subjected to such treatment by fellow Democrats.
As Lou Dobbs often says, what in the world is going on here?
What’s going on is a blatant attempt to seize control of the Democratic party on behalf of the so-called Liberal Elite. They’re the far left of the party that despises the Clintons for their centrist views, despite the fact that Bill Clinton was the most successful Democratic president in 40 years. No other Democrat won as many electoral votes in those four decades and he was the only two-term Democratic president. Democrats lost 7 out of 10 presidential contests in the last 40 years.
Now, the far left is attempting to seize control of the party, taking over and remaking the party in Obama’s image, in a ruthless attempt to oust the Clinton faction. They’re even going so far as to move the DNC to Chicago and force party members to work for the Obama campaign. Should they be successful, there will no longer be a Democratic Party, just the Obama Party. And the co-mingling of DNC and Obama staffs–and possibly funds–will undermine election law limits.
Senator Clinton suspended her campaign for the nomination on Saturday, June 7. She said she endorses Sen. Barack Obama and that we, her supporters, should support him. Sorry, Hillary, as much as we love you, many of us cannot do that.
We have come to know Sen. Obama far too well to be able to support him in any way. Some of us have already changed our party affiliation, some to Independent while others have switched to the Republican Party. Many of us have joined the PUMA movement which originally stood for Party Unity My Ass.
We’ve had it with the far left, the Liberal elitists, with Obama and his mean, vicious, thuggish supporters.
We all continue to support Hillary and still want her to win the nomination, hoping against hope that something will happen to change the minds of wayward delegates who have gone astray from our Liberal ideals. We’re hoping they will come to learn the true nature of Sen. Obama so that they will shy away from him the way we have. We don’t trust him and can never vote for him. We think Sen. Obama represents a threat to this country, that he’s far worse than president Bush.
So, while Sen. Obama is planning to build a new basketball court in the White House, some of us are exploring our options. Many of us are considering voting for Senator John McCain.
Meeting With Senator John McCain
A bunch of us attended a special virtual and real town hall meeting for Hillary supporters on Saturday, June 14. It was part of his “Citizens for McCain” grassroots effort. We thought the Senator would be elsewhere and that it was to be a conference call event. We didn’t learn until the night before that Sen. McCain would actually be there. It was held in the McCain for President headquarters in Crystal City, in Arlington, Virginia. RNC Victory Chair Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett Packard, accompanied the Senator.
The women with McCain’s team were very impressive and extremely nice. They understood we were lifelong liberal Democrats who were considering voting for a Republican for the very first time. I tried to explain that it wasn’t out of anger or disappointment but out of fear for our country.
It was a very good meeting, full of Hillary’s supporters, many of them from NYC, in full Hillary regalia. John McCain made a short statement about his policies and positions, followed by lots of Q&As from attendees in Arlington, and conference call participants, mostly women from Ohio and Pennsylvania. Sen. McCain was very complimentary of Hillary, making a special point of complimenting her on her campaign.
Everyone was very pleased to be there, and Sen. McCain was in good spirits. The questions were all very good, and McCain’s answers were clear, concise, and direct. There were also some good laughs during the Q&A. One of the callers was a fire chief from a town in Ohio. McCain said he’d like to come visit and be shown around town. The caller happily agreed.
After the Q&A, McCain mingled with the crowd, signed autographs, and spent quite a bit of time chatting with individuals, including Harriet Christian, whom you may have seen being ejected from the May 31 RBC meeting. John McCain knew who Harriet was and was very happy to see her and she him.
Here she is on Fox discussing her meeting with John McCain, for whom she will vote despite his position on abortion. McCain’s position is irrelevant because he said he wouldn’t have a litmus or ideological test for judges. They just have to be qualified. He voted for Breyer and Ginsberg, for example. He held Roberts up as an example of the type of judge he would nominate.
He was very personable and easy to talk with. He reminds me a bit of Harry Truman. My father once walked along with him on one of his regular walks around the White House block. That was back when you could have that kind of access to your president.
The Senator even posed for some group photos, and I managed to snap a few with my iPhone.
Click here to view the Web gallery. (Note the display options at the bottom and the download button above the photos on the left.)
As you can see, the Hillary supporters were very upbeat. I didn’t take detailed notes of the meeting because it was being videotaped and I thought the video would be available on McCain’s Web site at some point.
Hillary supporters there were appalled at what our party has been doing lately and one of the staffers also expressed horror at the DNC’s move to Chicago. What might Obama do to this country with a compliant Congress? We’re looking to McCain as a last resort but we also want to see Hillary reenter the fight. I overheard some Hillary women talking about how much they wish they could still have a woman in the White House.
I know it’s pure fantasy but I’d like to see Hillary protest what’s happening with the DNC and how Obama’s taking it over, remaking it in his own image. I’d like for her not to support Obama at all and start railing against him and the party. Yes, just a fantasy because it looks like Hillary and Barack will be getting together onstage June 26 for a fundraising event.
What impressed me about Sen. John McCain was how forthright he was, how decisive and direct in his answers. No hemming or hawing, no ums or uhs, just simple, direct answers without equivocation. In other words, he sure didn’t come across as someone trying to sell you something, or someone who tailors what he says to who’s listening. Carly Fiorina talked with us after the event, after McCain left, and told us that what we had seen was the real John McCain. I’d have to agree.
I would have absolutely no reservations about voting for him if his opponent is Obama. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to do everything I can to promote Hillary and to defeat Obama, the illegitimate one.
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And all of you will know that, because of your passion and hard work, you helped pave the way for that day. So I want to say to my supporters: When you hear people saying or think to yourself, “If only, or, “What if,” I say, please, don’t go there. Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.
(APPLAUSE)
Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been. We have to work together for what still can be. And that is why I will work my heart out to make sure that Senator Obama is our next president.
(APPLAUSE)
And I hope and pray that all of you will join me in that effort.
- Hillary Clinton, June 7, 2008.
Hillary is not a Goddess (even though she would make a good one). Our country comes first. We must save it from the spineless incompetenet one (i.e., Obama).
The media would tear into her like a pack of animals
if she said anything critical of little OBambi.
She has worked herself to nervous exhaustion and put
up with almost a year of pummeling.
I would ask anyone to go through the hell they would
put her through.
It’s up to us to continue rallying for her, and to
expose Barakula.
Hillary has no choice but to work for Barry. She’s hoping we, her supporters, can read between the lines and hold firm. NoBama Ever!
Exactly, Hillary has to do what she has to do to get her Party back on track. We have to do what we have to do to keep the Country safe from the inexperienced one. They are complementary efforts in the end.
But she didn’t release her delegates and actions speak louder than words.
Let’s show our support by doing the opposite of what she says. Then she’ll know how loyal we are.
We are not blind loyalist like the bots. We haven’t had our brain removed.
LOL You forget she also said she and McCain bring a lifetime of commitment and service but Obama brings a speech. Also, replay her “endorsement” speech. I found it very intersting when she ended with the trademark McCain phrase, “My friends…”
You see Danny, it’s hard for you to comprehend, but we THINK FOR OURSELVES. We do not mindlessly follow an mythical leader, a false messiah. We actually read history, and social policy. We actually research policies and analyze our options. I know it is much easier to go to a big (bussed in) rally and chant someone’s name, but we actually find that shallow and empty.
Like a suit.
Do you always let Barack Obama do your thinking for you?
No, I like to mix it up– in this instance I was quoting Hillary Clinton.
They don’t know how to read between the lines, either.
NOBODY tells me who to vote for. NOBODY.
Here’s another quote for you.
“I’m sick and tired of everyone blaming everything on George Bush. If the news media and the liberals in congress hadn’t bashed him at every turn, he would’ve been able to do all kinds of good those country.” — My husband yesterday
Now, I have loved and been faithful to my husband for 12 years, but he has never been able to influence my vote, which has mostly gone to Democrats. Why in the world would I let some kind of blind loyalty to politician or a political party influence my vote? As someone else has already said, I’m an independent thinker. It’s one of the privileges of living in America.
Lordy, my fingers got away from me. I meant to say “all kinds of good for this country.”
We knew what you meant, Lucinda. You made a good point.
I’m going to support No Deal by buying some of their junk.
Have you seen the T-Shirts?
I LOVE the variety a lot! It’s an array of attitudes, from your true McCain fans to 2nd amendment folks, to sort of hip ones…
My fave: Vote Democrat It beats thinking.
yes, my friends, hrc does know how loyal we are AND that we are independent thinkers who still have free will. danny…you can take your boring posts elsewhere. you are wasting your precious little mental power which you’ll obviously need to pay homage to your lying corrupt false messiah.
Explain to me, Danny, how coming here and harassing us is going to make us want to vote for Obama?
Hey Chavez-
First, if any of my posts were harrassing, I apologize.
As to whether my posts will convince anyone to vote for Obama: there’s a good chance they won’t. But a guy can dream, right? Mostly, I just wanted to find out first hand why so many Clinton supporters are now backing McCain– a candidate who disagrees with her on almost every major issue.
As an aside, for a bunch of people who claim to be independent thinkers, and who call Obama supporters drones, you’re not very welcoming of someone posting opinions that differ from yours.
f u
Danny, just one answer. TRUST!!!. You don’t have to agree on every single issue to select a Candidate of your second choice.
And…your point?
Consider yourself a lot luckier than we were. We got banned from places you hail from. That’s why we came here. So you will excuse us if we aren’t impressed.
You can dream yes. Dreamers adore Barack Obama, don’t they? But the truth is, we don’t trust him with our country. We don’t trust him with our lives. And we don’t trust him with our rights as women. It doesn’t get anymore hopeless than that, which is kind of odd for a guy who pimps the Hopey Changey plan a lot.
Comment by Danny | 2008-06-18 17:31:55
Let’s show our support by doing the opposite of what she says. Then she’ll know how loyal we are.
EFF U
In the name of Porky Pig, Ya-ba-deeb-a-deeb-a-deeb-a-dee, piss off, Obama.
NomNomNom,
Well spoken.
Well-written Piece, NoBo!
It should be linked from every worthy blog on the web.
Funny that we still get e-mails from her campaign managers stating that she is still in it to win it.
I am so sick of ignorant people like you. What a leech you are. Typical paid sleazy Oblahma supporter. I am disgusted with your ilk. This is not a effing popularity contest you moron. I support experience over sleazy Chicago politics. Obama has no experience and a disgusting history. This no longer is an issue of D -v- R, it has to do with running the country you @ss. If you are stupid enough to vote for some slime from Chicago, you are screwing the rest of us. So PISS OFF you freak.
Country before party. Clinton or McCain ‘08
Roe v. Wade gets thrown in my face all the time by Obamabots. Yes, Obama supports abortion, it’s true. He also supports partial birth abortion. Early abortion is one thing, while killing a fully developed fetus during delivery is another.
She did really well didn’t she? Considering they bullied and threatened the shit out of her.
Hillary also said in March 2008, that like her Senator McCain would bring a lifetime of experience to the Whitehouse and Senator Obama……has a speech he gave in 2002.
If you look at Senator Clintons “suspension” speech she is not telling her supporters to vote for Obama….she told us “18 million of you from all walks of life - women and men, young and old, Latino and Asian, African-American and Caucasian, rich, poor and middle class, gay and straight - you have stood strong with me. And I will continue to stand strong with you, every time, every place, and every way that I can. The dreams we share are worth fighting for.”
Read between the lines…..Hillary is telling us not to give up the fight. “You” appear to be giving up…..”we” are not.
Could you increase the font size, please.
thank you for this post. I was on the conference call and I too came away very happy with my decision to vote for Senator McCain.
I taped the call and have played it for several friends and family members who have gone to join the McCain website and they too have decided to vote for McCain in November!!
Excellent news! We need to spread the word far and wide (it will be easy recruiting, especially when the alternative is a spineless incomepent - - - Obama).
Can you post it somewhere so we can listen to it? I’d like to hear what McCain has to say myself. If he comes off angry and cranky or whatever.
Why? You’re the one who said he got as far in the Navy as he did by affirmative action.
Yeah look at that five year POW promotion he got!
What do you care? You’re another drone who wants to play the Oblahma ‘proveitproveit’ game. I would say do your own research but you are going to attempt to screw the rest of us by voting for the corrupt Obama so who cares what you want. Piss off. Anyone is an improvement of Obama.
John McCain needs to take someone with broad appeal as his running mate. Sarah Palin or Charlie Crist are two strong contenders.
I will support the country first over any party!
Vote McCain in 08′!
I agree that Sarah and Charlie should be on McCain’s short-list.
Save America from Obama . . .vote McCain!
Sarah Palin is a first term Governor of Alaska who weakens McCain’s environmental positions, will come across as a trophy veep to pander to Hillary voters, and she is pregnant with her fifth child (one has Downes.’) McCain needs to win conservatives, and they especially won’t like that last part. Before she was Governor, Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasalia. Are you impressed? No one is. She has a future, but not now. Let her be Governor for a while and raise her babies.
I like Palin on the surface. You guys should do blogs on the options for a Repub VP. I could do more research on my own, but I find the information here pretty good.
Charlie Crist is great and a popular Governor, but McCain doesn’t need too much help with Florida. I’m thinking Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota will be his veep. THey’re good friends, he has blue collar roots and Conservative creds, and he would help secure the battleground Great Lakes states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota. He and McCain are good friends, and he’s reputedly a policy wonk who would enjoy the Vice Presidency.
I like Pawlenty, too.
I will say what I admire most about Palin is her strict adherence to ethics.
Although, you’re right, Hope Floats. I think she may be viewed as the token female for Hillary voters
Hi Hope,
I think Palin’s 5th child is born and it is the one with Down. I’m not sure because I’ve only been paying attention to Republicans since April of this year.
For those who are interested in disability issues, Christ is very good on Autism issues. There has been a whispering campaign that he is gay…of course since I was a democrat for 30 years until last week, if he were gay, I’d like him more.
I saw Pawlenty on Fox (the only station I watch now) and he seemed articulate and looked good in a mid western kind of way - but I know nothing about him.
Politicians are used to dealing with dishonest and self serving people, most of them fall into that category. Clinton must support Obama-it’s called political expediency, something Obama does very well. As a voter I don’t need to engage in it. So if Clinton tows the line with the DNC, I’ll understand but I won’t and I’m sure millions out there are like me in that regard.
I found the Larry Sinclair transcript…
http://reflections-in-tyme.blogspot.com/
Was he arrested today on his outstanding fraud warrant?
Apparently. Political arrest? LOL*
His statement is very straightforward, but I haven’t seen anything on the follow-up questions.
We’ve seen it. Ad nauseum.
SEE THIS:
http://www.obama-wire.com/
If you vote McRecession in November have four more years of failed Bush economics, from a Candidate who was happy to admit he knew nothing of Economics and have on your conscience every family that loses their home as a result of Rethug incompetence.
McCain is our only option (obama is a spineless unqualified incompetent).
Cynthia McKinney is also an option. And unlike McCain, her policies are not polar opposites of Hillary’s.
In your dreams, dumbsh^t. I’m voting the guy who’ll kick your guy’s a$$. Dems aren’t my party any more, I’m now registered Independent. You don’t have a clue what my views are.
I’m not giving up my right to vote, thx. And I’m making sure the guy who thinks I don’t have a right to vote for my own candidate and have it count for my candidate goes down.
Hey NomNom-
You’re right, I don’t know your views. I guess I assumed you were a Clinton supporter, and therefore that you agreed with Clinton on issues like health care, taxes, Iraq, and education– issues where Clinton and McCain differ starkly. Then I assumed that you’d want to support someone who agreed with the Clinton positions rather than the McCain positions. I can understand that you don’t want to vote for Obama, but I don’t see how supporting McCain will advance any of the ideals Clinton fought for. Clearly I went wrong somewhere, feel free to explain how (preferably without calling me a dumbsh^t).
We do not trust Barack Obama with our country.
We do not trust Barack Obama with our lives.
We do not trust Barack Obama with our rights as women.
We do not trust Barack Obama’s political intentions.
Hope this clears things up.
I guess I assumed oops.
Clearly I went wrong somewhere Ya think?
Cynthia McKinney? Are you serious?
She’s more along the lines of Michelle Obama than Hillary Clinton. She’s just another white hater.
Some of us actually know who Cynthia McKinney is. She is another radical leftist. She has been known to praise Hugo Chavez.
Does no one remember the stink she made about having to (let’s all gasp here) actually walk through the metal detector at the Capitol building. Oh, horror of horrors.
She had a completely different hairstyle, and she was so incensed that the guard didn’t recognize her that she punched him in the chest when he asked for her ID.
Is this the best you can lure us with? Cynthia McKinney is Obama in drag, without the pretense of social graces.
No to Obama, no to McKinney.
Yes to Hillary or McCain!
Danny, Danny, Danny,
We don’t need your suggestions. We don’t want your suggestions. Don’t you get it, we like to think for ourselves, and we’ve made up our minds. Nobama. McCain 2008 unless Hillary is our nominee
Yes, you’re right..because someone who knows “nothing” about economics, even though he’s been a Senator for over 20 years, while Barackula is in his first term of the national senate..after 10 years as a part-time state senator (yea, look that up), is worse than a guy who
USES THE WORST TABOO IN AMERICA, RACE, to divide the party and gain votes.
Yes, that just DRIPS with class, and “unity.”
“Fairy tale” racist?
“LBJ and MLK” racist?
Reagan=good?
Bill Clinton=bad?
McCAIN 08, because he’s no obama! (Hillary 2012!!!!)
Pardon me, but when did Obama use the word “racist” in his reaction to the “fairy tale” comment or the LbJ/MLK comment (which frankly was a pretty weird road for Hillary to be going down to begin with). When EXACTLY did Obama specifically USE race to “divide the country”. There is more projection here than in a movie theater.
He used his surrogates. So he didn’t get any of his own shit on him. Those days will be gone soon.
Can’t you come up with a different set of words. This stuff is beginning to sound like a broken record. At least utilize the richness of the language. Or are you not allowed to think for yourself?
If you vote for Obama in November and he is elected, expect the biggest rush out of the stock market and other investments that you have ever seen. We may be in or close to a recession now, but it’s nothing like you will see if Obama becomes our president with a democratic majority in congress.
you really should make an attempt to know what McCain is about instead of ranting about some point the dems try to tell you is fact.
i was on that tele-conference call also — all I want to say is that these Obots repeating the non-sense that BHO and the Dems put into their heads for them to recite ad nauseam that McCain is the same as Bush need to wake up and think for them selves and maybe go out and read some of the facts before regurgitating obama bullshit. if these bots had a brain they might look a little deeper and see just how much BHO is more like Bush then McCain. As a conservative democrat I have absolutely no reservations about voting for the better candidate, so my vote for McCain is not a protest vote. There are numerous other ways that I am showing my protest against the democratic party for what they have done.
Hmmmm Bush Cheney Oil tax give away Bill, compare the candidates:
McCain vote: Nay
Obama Vote: Yea
Who has failed policies and follows Bush?
Isn’t it a shame there are records to actually prove what politicians say vs what they do?
yup…..and I already know his word is worth absolutely nothing.
He doesn’t even explain his flip-flops. He just flops and then refuses to address the issue.
Flip-Flop on NAFTA is now, “Heated rhetoric of a typical campaign.”
So that means, I should pay no attention to him whatsoever now, too. It will later just be “heated rhetoric of a typical campaign.”
I’ll base my vote on the real voting record of real politicians…..no upon image or “heated rhetoric.”
If I remember correctly, it wasn’t just “heated rhetoric”. This position was written in flyers and mailers from the Obama campaign.
The Obama campaign used President Clinton’s support for NAFTA Senator Clinton. It was an attack launched heavily in the press by the Obama campaign.
If I remember correctly, it wasn’t just “heated rhetoric”. This position was written in flyers and mailers from the Obama campaign.
The Obama campaign used President Clinton’s support for NAFTA against Senator Clinton. It was an attack launched heavily in the press by the Obama campaign.
What the hell do you Obama knows? Not a thing about anything but gratuity.
If you vote Obomba in November have four more years of failed Bush economics, from a Candidate who was happy to lie that he knew everything and have on your conscience every family that loses their home and women who can look forward to more sexism as a result of Rethug and Demotraitor incompetence.
Stay out of US politics, UK. Go back there and be racist in your own hole.
Obama’s advisors are all neocons. Austin Goolsbee is straight Chicago School. He just took on Jason Furman, the biggest Wal-Mart lover ever. Hillary got heat for her board position, but she was retained for four meetings a year. She was a strong advocate for women bein promoted to managerial positions. She also learned quite a bit about macroeconics. Still, Obama called her a NAFTA-lover and job remover. Three days after she’s out, he is “a free market guy.” All about globalism. I bet that’s what he and Bloomberg met on earlier. No VP shot, but for some economic advice and future favors, they likely worked out a deal. However, Bloomberg is not an adviser. McCain at least has a good diverse team. Don Luskin, very libertarian, a bit of a gold bug, big skeptic of the Fed. Pete Peterson, Reagan boom a “mad, drunken bash” and thinks steep tax increases on income, gasoline, tobacco, and alcohol, on top of a 5 percent consumption tax, are necessary to put the government’s finances in order. Jack Kemp who is on the PPT and the guy who turned Reagan onto supply side economics. McCain’s list may very well reveal a refreshingly nonideological approach to policy making that will prove popular in our post-partisan era of change and the future. It is a very sensible yet open-minded approach that I find refreshing after McCain admitted the economy is his weakest point. He has good advisers, better than Obama’s.
It might be interesting to know that someone in the UK likes Obama, but this is an American election.
Your Prime Minister, Gordon Brown shares the political stripes of Obama. The UK is also on the brink of a recession with their own housing, banking, and energy crisis.
And their food sucks.
Haven’t you heard? George W. Obama doesn’t know anything about economics either. His economic advisors have been semi-retired for the last 15-20 years and G.w.O. is credited with having 50 year old economic ideas.
I wonder if the Obamaniacs will boo Hillary when she appears with Obama!
probably…..that’s OK. She was shunned badly when she showed up to AA events. The Obama campaign made sure of that.
Events HE didn’t show up to.
Hell, I don’t need any convincing. I would vote for any Senators with more than 1 term on their belt over BO. Nuff said.
143 days of “experience” in the Senate with zero accomplishments.
Yes Obama did, he passed a Bill to recognize the Demcray of the Congo and a Bill renaming a Post Office, two vital pieces of legislation needed to make America strong and and and…..
Shit Kool Aide wear off meltdown…..lol
Obama himself has said that he lacks experience
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU
That was probably “heated rhetoric” too.
I would even vote for a cockroach first.
I will continue to support blogs like yours and PUMA and justsaynodeal because NO ONE SHOULD EQUAL 1/2 a vote in 2008!
WV
Then register Independent and make the DEMS & REPS a 1/3 of a vote.
Country first, party second. Democratic if I can, Republican if I must. If Obama is the Dem cadidate, then regretfully I must vote for McCain. McCain may know little about Economics, but Obama knows nothing about anything other that plagarism and race-baiting.
Stop pandering to the Two Party System: Register & Vote Independent:
“Ralph Nader on Barack Obama: ‘It is Quite Clear He is a Corporate Candidate from A to Z’”
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/18/ralph_nader_on_barack_obama_it
Spoiler: the sequel.
probably funded by Obama’ backers this time - going along with the model they are not the same folks.
Because you didn’t work hard enough for Gore it is now all of our problem. Because you didn’t get your head out of your donkey or elephant and go and register IND then, it is now all of our problem.
Gore was a wuss. That’s why he lost, and that’s why he’s supporting Obama. See a shrink. No one wants to vote for whatever loser you’re selling.
Well good, at least you agree that Nader was not the spoiler. My shrink told me not to vote for McCain or Obama.
Hope Floats, you have a major floater up your ass.
Really camper, we get it. You don’t have to keep posting it.
Paramjit Singh Multani
The supposed limo driver to Larry and Barack.
Find that man, and see what he has to say.
I would have thought that Larry would know where he was. This “expose” isn’t any more exposed than last week, really, other than I finally got to read the detailed account.
I read the transcript. Wish we could have seen it here but C-Span did not carry it. Thanks “timepassages” for posting the link for the Sinclair transcript.
This is only my opinion, but I think we should drop this subject. No matter how I feel about Obama, he has children, and this accusation of an affair, whatever that person’s gender, without proof, is wrong. There are enough reasons to not support Obama, this is only a distraction. Only my opinion.
UKFORTHEDEMS IS A TROLL!!!!
Great article. Just one comment:
The idea that Obama and his marauders are “far left” seems popular, but he seems to be kissing up to all sorts, and shape-shifting for each group. Even with his extremist (not left extremist, just nutty extremist) Chicago pals, he strikes me as to the right - sometime the far right - of the Clintons. He was, for example, of the Chicago school where they await Friedman’s resurrection.
I don’t buy him as a liberal. Too many of his tactics are recycled Republican tactics. The Clinton hate, race-baiting, sexism, homophobia and the now brewing McCain Ageist propaganda. Thanks to the media, the mainstream was fooled.
Liberal? He’s a marxist in waiting.
Friedman was very left, though. That’s why the neocons or compassionate conservatives loved him. You can look at Bush and those crooks; they’re not godly men. They are cannibals who infiltrated the Republican party. If you look at the ideology, they just brainwashed people to a cause. They were leftists posing as conservatives.
Kind of like our loud radical whackjob wing. The kind who bring us the McGoverns, the Dukakasis and the Obamas.
Hey guess what those three have in common?
Their rude, unruly, arrogant ‘followers’ pissed off the electorate.
Foe the sake of America don’t vote for an unstable person…This is a bill Obama introduced ,and was pasased,but he failed to live up to his own bill…
“EVERY VOTE SHOULD BE COUNTED OBAMA TELLS US”.
.Florida and Michigan ,never forget how you have been treated by Obama and his playmates..
If the Bill was passed ,it’s LAW! NO RULE CAN SUPERSEED THE LAW,not even HOWARD DEAN and HIS playmates… BUT IT WAS, SO REMEMBER THIS!
.http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
Election reform is #1 priority to prevent disenfranchisement.
Obama adopted the CBC principles:
Election Reform is the CBC’s Number One Legislative Priority. What happened in Election 2000 is no way to elect the President – the most powerful position in the world. For the sake of our democracy, it is imperative that Election Reform be the top priority of every Member of Congress, and every American. As the world’s oldest and leading democracy, the outcome of our elections should never be in doubt. We must ensure that every vote cast is counted and that everyone who is eligible to vote is allowed to vote. Election reform is not a black issue or white issue, it is a red, white & blue issue. Voting is the most fundamental right guaranteed under the Constitution and must be protected.
Voter Education and Participation. African-Americans turned out to vote in Election 2000 in record numbers, many for the first time. This accomplishment, however, was undercut by allegations of voter intimidation, inaccurate voter registration lists, flawed ballot designs, and antiquated voting machinery. All of these problems led to confusion before, during and after the election. The CBC will partner with state & local governments, civic & religious organizations and higher education institutions to prevent voter intimidation, as well as to enhance and improve voter registration, education and participation.
Congress Must Act. Congress has the power, authority and absolute obligation to assure that the apparent disenfranchisement does not ever happen again. The CBC is committed to passing a strong and effective election reform package. Legislation should address ballot design, modern voting machines, an accurate vote-counting mechanism that allows for recounts, the restoration of voting rights for ex-offenders, assistance for bilingual and disabled persons who vote, and ensure the most accurate voter registration rolls on election day so that every one who is eligible to vote can vote, and have that vote counted.
Source: Congressional Black Caucus press release 01-CBC7 on Jan 6, 2001
Sponsored bill criminalizing deceptive info about elections.
Obama sponsored criminalizing false or deceptive info about elections
OFFICIAL CONGRESSIONAL SUMMARY: Amends federal criminal law to prohibit any person from knowingly deceiving any other person regarding:
the time, place, or manner of conducting any federal election; or
the qualifications for or restrictions on voter eligibility for any such election.
Creates a private right of action for any person aggrieved by a violation of such prohibition. Prescribes a criminal penalty for such deceptive acts.
SPONSOR’S INTRODUCTORY REMARKS: Sen. OBAMA: Voter participation is fundamental to our democracy, and we must do all we can to encourage those who can to vote. I also hope voters go to the polls with accurate information about what is on the ballot, where they are supposed to vote, and what our Nation’s voting laws are.
It might surprise some of you to know, but even in this awesome age of technological advancement and easy access to information, there are folks who will stop at nothing to try to deceive people and keep them away from the polls. These deceptive practices all too often target and exploit vulnerable populations, like minorities, the disabled, or the poor.
Deceptive practices often rely on a few tried and true tricks. Voters are often warned that an unpaid parking ticket will lead to their arrest or that folks with family members who have been convicted of a crime are ineligible to vote. Of course, these warnings have no basis in fact, and they are made with one goal and one goal only: to keep Americans away from the polls.
The bill I am introducing today provides the clear statutory language and authority needed to get allegations of deceptive practices investigated. It establishes harsh penalties for those found to have perpetrated them. Deceptive practices and voter intimidation are real problems and demand real solutions like those offered in my bill.
LEGISLATIVE OUTCOME:Referred to Senate Committee on Rules and Administration; never came to a vote.
I would rather vote for McCain than for the man who chants unity all the while allowing his henchmen do the dirty work. Yes we can? Uh, no.
McCain ‘08!
PUMA!
Oh my God watching Situation Room CNN atm waiting for Ed http://www.hcsfjm.com interview. Actually I’m in pain, didn’t watch that propaObamba channel for some time and can’t agree with this opinion “MSNBC, with CNN a close second.” CNN Situation Room and MSNBC bot are pure shit.
Everyday I realize that I must vote for McCain. I will do whatever I can to defeat Obama, he can not be POTUS!
yeah blah, all on the same day that the world finds out that your obama is really a fag and does drugs.
Larry Sinclair was arrested today by the DC police.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/18/19173/8251
The slur against gay men used here is not appropriate.
You post this shit one more time and I am going to request your removal from this board as a spammer.
DUMB BITCH
Thats President John Sidney Mccain for you Blah3….You can trust the polls if you want…..What goes around comes around….We Are going to kick Obama and his Obamabots back to Timbuktu!!!
From March 2008
“Senator Clinton:
Just read where Senator Patrick Leahy is calling on you to drop out of the Presidential race. Believe me.
I know something about this. Here’s my advice: Don’t listen to people when they tell you not to run anymore. That’s just political bigotry.
Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice. This is America. Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run. Whenever you like. For as long as you like.
It’s up to you, Hillary. Just tell them — It’s democracy. Get used to it.
Yours truly, Ralph Nader”
Nader’s a loser! Go the fuck away, or we’ll turn on the crap cannon.
You just wish you could take a crap, so you could get that floater out of your ass.
OT, could anyone plz see if they can get on to SavagePolitics and post back here if it works? I get a message that the page isn’t found, but am not experiencing problems elsewhere.
Off-line
Thx, I guess we were hacked again!
Thank you Dumbocrats!
McCain 08
They do have a way about them — snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
A 40 year history. lol
I don’t think the Obama camp understands where the HRC supporters going for McCain are coming from or where they are headed. The arguments about how awful McCain is or is not are irrelevant. It comes down to “the new politics” that are “the old politics” played with 21st century tech toys that are just more divisive, meaner, uglier and hostile to the core of common, ordinary Americans. The divide goes far deeper than this primary, this candidate, this party and there is no bridge that reaches that far.
I sometimes describe my probable vote for McCain as “strategic.” The fact that I can’t trust Obama on policy helps push me, but then the Obama-Brazile-Dean clique says I’m not part of the “new” Democratic coalition anyway. I can’t get my party back by voting for the ones who conducted the putsch.
‘I sometimes describe my probable vote for McCain as “strategic’”
I’m starting to think of mine as “politically Darwinistic”.
Funny, mine is because I despise the lying thug and Sexist Pig barack obama.
You are a definite bitch. Go get laid already. Been ages.
Thanks you for that wonderfully incisive comment!
Soros-Obama 08, USA, Israel, Iraq & The World Under The Bus?
http://tinyurl.com/4dck6l
No smearing of Obama
LOOKS LIKE LARRY SINCLAIR WAS ARRESTED TODAY!!!
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/18/19173/8251
Can someone there confirm this?
Hope he survives jail. Obama and his handlers will shut him up permanently like they did Donald Young.
No, they won’t.
You really have to stop giving those to0ns so much power.
They’re tools.
When you piece togeather all the evidence, you would never vote for Barack Obama.
http://tinyurl.com/3frr7t
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I will not vote for Nobama. I will vote for anyone who has a real chance of preventing him from moving into the White House.
I don’t care what color he is, too liberal, not liberal, his wife is likable/not likable. Don’t care. He is simply not qualified and the fact that he is pretending to be is enough for me not to trust him EVER. It’s only about him now. It’s no longer about serving this great country. I find that insulting and he, along with the Dem. Party, are making a mockery of the primary/election process.
Just Say No Deal.
NoBo thanks for such a great article. I agree 100%.
I would like to share my story which I shared with Hillary’s campaign when I contributed.
I’m an independent, most often voting republican because of my mix of conservative and centrist views. I had not planned on voting for a Republican and I thought that I would cast my vote for Obama. Basically, I was displeased with our choices this year. Something happened during the course of this campaign–Hillary fought, she stood her ground, she made her points and she shared her vision with America. I may not have agreed with everything she proposed but Hillary won my newfound admiration for her endurance, her hard work and her presence–especially in the face of adversity. Hillary WAS Presidential and gained my trust. Meanwhile, Obama exposed himself for who he was–his associations that he denied and gradually disowned, his constant flip-flopping, his radical and unhinged supporters and finally the evidence of the Chicago machine that put him on this course while still untried and unvetted. That was not the fault of the Hillary team nor even the Republican team–that was the mistake of the DNC for putting an inadequate and inexperience candidate whose opinions were never truthfully shared.
I believe in Hillary. She routinely outperformed Obama, outlasted his energy and clearly should have been the candidate of the DNC.
Now we’re down to two (unless….)
I will gladly place my vote for McCain who has given his body and soul for this country. I don’t agree with him in every way but he is by far not George Bush. McCain is a friend of many Democrats as he also shares centrist views on one side of the aisle. He may NOT get the support of the majority in his party but he clearly has the country’s best interests at heart.
No Quarter has become a mainstay for me and I’ve enjoyed reading your opinions every day. There is a unity here, not just blindly following a party-line but a patriotic loyalty that transcends the divisions as we are all Americans.
As an American and as a woman, I am deeply offended with how Hillary has been treated at every turn. She won me over and I’m not the only conservative who feels the same. The next time she is on the ballot, she has my vote (unless Obama or Dean is on the ballot or in the cabinet!).
Go Hillary! Thank you for being all heart!
Mr. Obama,
You can’t run away from yourself.
Where ever you run, there you will be!
http://tinyurl.com/67qwhk
Silly Pooh!
I will never vote for Obama and this is the first year I have ever voted for a Republican.
The DNC party is no longer the DNC, it is the Obama party and he is calling all the shots.
I hope McCain wins by a landslide and will do everything in my power to see that happen.
You can all dream can’t you??
McBush Lanslide MYASS!!
As of today, this very moment…I truly believe in my heart despite who believes what..the Democratic Party has officially put not just the party itself, but our country, on a path, that will take years to ever come back from.
I am not one to look at things from one side, but different angles, and the picture I am getting is one that literally puts fear in my heart down to my soul on the path they have attempted to push and shove for us to take.
I never in my life, my adult life, personal or military would ever have thought the type of things I have witnessed would ever play out in such a way or be condoned. There is no way possible I can find any measure of understanding or acceptance of any of these situations I have seen but I refuse to be party to.
There is absolutely no way, no how, I can even wrap my mind around the fact that our elected officials, our government is willing to turn a blind eye to the constant and repeatitive actions that are going on daily that cross the line and border on downright criminal behavior.
I cannot rationalize or make sense of how anyone is willing to overlook hard core evidence based on wanting a candidate, any candidate so badly, they are willing to allow the level of discourse towards so many individuals, just to have Senator Obama as the Democratic nominee.
The things that have happened in the sake of wanting a certain candidate has turned horror into anguish, anguish into despair and now witnessing it all play out live and in color, is leaving limited options available unless something happens or someone realizes that we cannot continue down the path that we are on and meet with success for our country as a whole.
We are now open to assault from so many different angles, so many different scenarios why we attempt to fight a war overseas..when it now seems we are fighting one in our damn backyard.
Fraudelent primaries and caucauses. Voter fraud. Paid off superdelegates, death threats, harrassment. Newspapers, articles and biased media. People on television calling entire states racist for not voting for a candidate. Normal everyday people, friends and loved ones, co workers turning against one another based on what they read and see.
Believing that a person is racist because they said it in the news. No respect for anyone or anything. When has it ever become the norm to destroy the opposition by painting a person and there family racist to achieve a goal?
Destroying years of hard work and public service all gone by sound bytes, a few phrased quotes distorted, all media outlets saying the same thing…and everything you worked hard for, gone, destroyed in a blink of an eye. All to accomplish what you wanted or needed.
Sexist remarks to the point of degrading. Over and over againg and no one, no one saying anything. Trying to achieve a higher position, not for yourself, but for your country, not because of what we can do for you, but for what you can do for us all.
Day in, day out, week after week month after month, until the only places you can even go online to be able to remotely get your opinon and your voice heard, is down to a few. One.
Votes not counting. Delegates taken. Choices made, and millions of voices silenced. Is this the change that we have all been waiting for? Is this the world we are now to live in? Where its easier to be on the wrong team and fall in because you are scared to NOT be part of the majority?
When the media has so much control, they literally dictate what and how we recieve our information? Where they choose which sound bytes to play and what information is known? Where our government officials can turn a blind eye, the ones we elected, we chose to represent us, that can sit by and let people be harrassed day in and day out because of our choices? Because of our decisions? Just to be heard?
I have the right to choose. I have the right to make any judgement or choice I deem necessary. Its no reason for threats or negativity. I work, I do my part, I dont depend on no one but myself. I dont take handouts, I pay my taxes. I make my own way.
Therefore my judgement is my own. By allowing this tragedy of a election play out this way. They have sent the message that actions such as this are allowed and are okay. They have moved our country back to a time that many have fought and died to achieve. They do not deserve the offices and positions they hold, because they have forgotten HOW to uphold the basic foundation and fundementals of our government.
I will never fall in. I will never go with the majority. As long as the majority violates everything that I believe in. This is not just about a candidate that was not elected by the people. Its about stripping away the rights of the people. We EARNED our rights. For every hate letter I have recieved. For every death threat given, and every paid blogger that sent it. I will never fall in. I will never go with the majority. I will never stop speaking my mind. I will not stop letting my choice be known. I will not stop speaking openly or posting messages or comments because it is MY RIGHT!
I will not back down and I will always continue to support the candidate that supported me, that spoke for me, to me, and SHOWED me that I have a voice, and I am damn sure going to use it. I will continue to make utube videos, so get over it. I will continue to state I have no intentions to vote for those who ignored the voices of there constituents because they chose to count the money and not the votes. I will do it today, tomorrow, and until I board that damn C130 at the end of this year. I will campaign against every last Democratic party member up until the moment I board that damn plane.
So continue with your messages and hate filled remarks and see who wins in the end. I am one, but one of many. Because there will come a time when you will not be able to reach us by computer screen, phone or anything else. There wont be the keith olbermans and the cnn’s, and msnbc’s, nor the spotlight. And when that time comes, you will wish to god you would of listened, but you will then get the message loud and clear.
That day of reckoning will be one you remember. It might not be today. It might not be tomorrow or next week. But I promise the Democratic Party thugs will get the message loud and clear, the day after we all leave the voting booth.
It’s a flat tire, really, those people DO NOT have (that much) power.
And if you fell that way, get to work, and make it better,
Here, here, Soldier!
Where are your youtube videos?
Solider4Hillary: That was awesome. I agree 100%. Hope you come back without a scratch. God bless you.
Thank you Soldier4Hillary. Well said. Godspeed and blessings to you.
Yeah Yeah and your candidate didnt lose and hell has frozen over, waaaah waaah waaaah. You can cry all you want. Doesnt change a thing.
You can happily remove yourself from the gene pool Jan 20, 2009 when BHO is sworn in as POTUS!
LoL from dailykos
“AP REPORTS SMEARS AS TRUTH
by buckeyemike
Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 11:16:51 AM PDT
Listening to my local radio stations news, I was shocked to hear the right wing smears againist Michelle Obama have now made it into the Associated Press’s daily news feed to small radio and newspapers.
The report was that “the Obama campaign is trying to react quickly to reports againist Michelle Obama. She was quoted as saying that she had never been proud of America in her adult life.
She has been trying to improve her image with appearance today on “The View”.
“She is reported to have made remarks about WHITEY in a speech at a church in Chicago.”
I was shocked that there was no reference that this is just a claim, they reported it as if they had evidence that she truly said this in a speech, not what some right wingnuts had alledged. They say it enough times and now the AP is reporting it as TRUE.
I have called the radio station and written to AP, but I think we need to take more action. Any ideas on what we can do to combat this???? Listening to my local radio stations news, I was shocked to hear the right wing smears againist Michelle have now made it into the Associated Press’s daily news feed to small radio and newspapers.
UPDATE: AP email address info@ap.org
* buckeyemike’s diary :: :: “
The Republicans have seen the tape; they’ve been playing it at stag parties.
Well Well. How does it feel for your chosen one’s wife to be talked about (even if she deserves it). You and the Obamas have constantly dissed the Clintons. I don’t feel one bit sorry for Michelle Obama. I hope she gets pounded. No go back to your Obama love machine. We hate him here.
The Solution — http://www.VotePact.org
By dissatisfied voters from either side of the two party divide to make a pact in pairs and both cast their ballot for Nader (or any third party candidate).
This way voters don’t affect the balance between Democratic and Republican candidates, but give 2 additional votes to the third party candidate.
We all know someone on the other side of the party divide — a relative, friend, coworker, neighbor.
Let’s talk to them about this.
Instead of beating up on each other, and canceling out each other’s votes, you can make a tag team allowing all to vote their hearts without hesitation.
Oreilly has “the Michelle factor” on Fox that includes a clip from the view.
F@ck the Corporate Media! — ok, I will watch it just one more time.
Build your own party. Quit being such a fucking mooch in election years.
And I just want to thank people like you who give Independents the opportunity to strengthen their party every election cycle. The pickins are gettin easier.
I would like to see Hillary Clinton as President, but if that can’t happen, I would support a John McCain and Hillary Clinton ticket in November.
Gary
What I wouldn’t give to see a McCain/Clinton ticket. That would really define “new politics”.
Can you imagine the uproar from both the far right and far left.
What I do know is that those two would easily sweep the votes from the middle.
OT, does anyone know who regulates the tech industry which supports Obama?
A lot of high level government stuff, research, goes on there, does financial support for his Presidential bid enable their ability to do business with China, say, unhindered, were he elected?
Wow, WHAT a mess…
Hillary Supporters, you are not alone!
Take Heart, there are 18 Million of us.
http://tinyurl.com/3ondcy
No Obama!
Well, well, well,….guess what folks..It seems Obama’s aides are now limiting access to Obama and will decided where he is to be photographed, etc in. We now are being sold a packaged product. Like a pretty wrapped present that could hide something rotten in side. Only those who see it will think, oh how nice. Not knowing there could be something deadly inside. We have to do more. Write you friends and family and give them this site and other and tell them to emailed it to others and keep it going.Also on drudge western oil compaines are now going back into Iraq..WOW!..Man dying of skin cancer, eas even in his lung, is cancer free for two years because of immune theraphy…read about it…I just tell you that because my mom died of cancer and I want to get the news out when I hear of a new treatment. Will be a huge breakthrough,
Thanks — looks promising.
Just google it folks!
“Immune therapy”
Seems that Japanese are smarter than most people here in US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpH9ALMceGs
Great post. I know this is off topic, but we need to help Hillary retire her debt. I called the campaign finance office to verify where and how we can contribute. I’ve posted a diary on MyDD (you can imagine the response over there) that has the details and some other groups that are fund raising to help retire the debt. Give what you can. I’d rather us retire her debt, than have the MSM speculate another day as to which way Hillary will have to bend over to get Obama to retire her debt.
thank you for doing this. I’ve already made several contributions just for this purpose and will make more.
Nice article!
http://www.charlottefrontandcenter.com
The irony is that Obama is not really progressive or very far left…yet the “liberal elite” and DLC members have all jumped on board. I think “Clinton hatred” has really tainted the whole bunch…
Obamas biggest electability problem can be best summed up by looking over this page http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html
the leap from Clinton to McCain is something I still can’t understand. to go from progressive thinking democratic senator Clinton to phony “maverick” right wing pandering McCain is so beyond ridiculous.
i don’t particularly like Obama, i wanted Hillary. But I didn’t particularly like Kerry, I voted for him because the Republican party is so far out of touch its laughable.
All of the agendas and ideas are WRONG for this country. McCain on his best day would be FAR WORSE than Obama on his worst day.
Your problem is, you don’t know anything about McCain or Obama. If you did, you wouldn’t say that. Obama is worse than Bush in many ways and McCain is far better than Bush or Obama in many ways. Stick around and I’m sure you’ll come to understand that. Don’t expect the MSM to be very helpful, though.
i know plenty about mccain and two issues are enough for me. lgbt rights, women’s rights, supreme court judges. not to mention republicans on the economy are just plain wrong. he skates by on energy policy but backpedals to big oil just like the rest of them, wants to make huge holes to dril and destraoy rather than focus on clean energy, wants to use nuclear when there are better options.
i know that obama is on the side of lgbt rights and abortion rights that i agree with, is more progressive with health care, energy, and is against staying in iraq.
i know mccain is willing to pander to the most hateful of right wing conservative preachers that want to see me and my friends dead. thats enough for me.
“more progressive with … energy” So I take it you’re a big fan of Cheney’s energy bill that Obama voted for and McCain against!
I have been reading all of your comments against President Obama, and I can address him as my President, because this is the inevitable. It seems to me that you are all big whiney sore loosers !!!!
Go ahead and vote for McCain, it won’t help. Obama will still win in November, and then you can all whine all over again about being on a loosing team! Good Luck !!!!
The nuts are invading again.
These idiots do NOT believe in democracy.
Look sweetie — Obama is going to jail — that is a Fact.
Obama is also going to lose in a landslide to McCain — why — because most voting Americans can NOT stand the phony two faced snObama.
Now go back to your hold in Gaza and leave the aduts to our discussion..
Oh — and have someone change your diaper — you STINK.
mccain is just as two faced and phony as obama. they’re both politicians, remember?
the difference is mccain is so far on the wrong side of basically every issue at stake. if you don’t want balance in the supreme court have fun voting for republican panderer fake “maverick” mccain.
Ah yes, the great war hero:
Just look at this murdering coward –>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hdhLG0g6A&NR=1
He should be in jail with the rest of his criminal family!
PLEASE remove this crap. Thank you.
Mahatma X.
Go to bed,take your Kool-Aid, and don’t let the “Hanoi John ” bed bug bite you.
Bribery for McCain and Feinstein
http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
Can you see the change? Not from our perspective. You can’t get away with preaching change and then play the same old political game. If you didnt know already Obama just backed out of public financing (another flip flop).
“In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”
http://www.obama-wire.com
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A CNN/Opinion Research Corp poll just released indicates that 27% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain.McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/elections/story.aspx?storyid=88188&catid=36