Comments on: Obama and the Parables of Pooh http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:01:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Indumpepe http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-1263424 Indumpepe Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:56:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-1263424 <a href="http://www.dealzer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dealzer.com/catalog/Hydroponics.png</a> Hii I promised to leave feedback on the super deluxe <b><a href="http://dealzer.com" rel="nofollow">hydroponics</a></b> system I bought from Dealzer.com. Well, here it is. I bought the hydroponic system on September 1st. By the time it arrived, I had all my plans ready as far as the plants I have here to grow with. To unpack it (it came fully assembled) and plug it in - its fully automated - and to set my initial plants up, it took me about 30 minutes. I bought this with a Co2 system as well. Incredibly this box is not only growing my plants at a rate of 1 inch per day, but by the time my first harvest came in, the younger plants were tall enough to move to the flowering chamber. This is pretty good and my first experience with a proper hydroponics system. Well, lets see.... I can't really find a single problem with this box, except maybe that it takes 2 people to move it around the apartment. But other than that, I haven't seen a grow box looking this good before. I have made a few myself and bought from local dealers, but this is the best of the best. Everything from the clone chamber to the size is very well done. The customer service is very easy to deal with and very friendly. The system also comes with lock and key for security and came fully concealed. Well, if you wanted a review, you got one. I give this company a 9.5 out of 10 rating. I can't say their perfect, but who is? All and all it was a great deal. Here their phone number if you need it. <b>888-HYDRO-81</b> and their website name is <b>Dealzer.com</b> <a href="http://www.Dealzer.com" rel="nofollow"><b>grow box</b></a>. http://www.dealzer.com/catalog/Hydroponics.png
Hii I promised to leave feedback on the super deluxe hydroponics system I bought from Dealzer.com. Well, here it is. I bought the hydroponic system on September 1st. By the time it arrived, I had all my plans ready as far as the plants I have here to grow with. To unpack it (it came fully assembled) and plug it in – its fully automated – and to set my initial plants up, it took me about 30 minutes. I bought this with a Co2 system as well. Incredibly this box is not only growing my plants at a rate of 1 inch per day, but by the time my first harvest came in, the younger plants were tall enough to move to the flowering chamber. This is pretty good and my first experience with a proper hydroponics system.

Well, lets see…. I can’t really find a single problem with this box, except maybe that it takes 2 people to move it around the apartment. But other than that, I haven’t seen a grow box looking this good before. I have made a few myself and bought from local dealers, but this is the best of the best. Everything from the clone chamber to the size is very well done. The customer service is very easy to deal with and very friendly. The system also comes with lock and key for security and came fully concealed.

Well, if you wanted a review, you got one. I give this company a 9.5 out of 10 rating.

I can’t say their perfect, but who is? All and all it was a great deal. Here their phone number if you need it. 888-HYDRO-81 and their website name is Dealzer.com grow box.

]]> By: sfhillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-368239 sfhillary Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:03:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-368239 Well, at least one person on this thread actually chose to respond to me. You are basing your position that Obama is not mainstream for the most part on trivia. The church is a church; his reasons for staying there no doubt were complex and personal, and the fact that his pastor said some ridiculous things hardly speaks to Obama's likelihood of governing in any specific way as President. The fact that a chosen few "associates" of all the thousands of people that all politicians like him know happen to be former radicals or current sleazebags is completely irrelevant; if anyone here gave a shit, the list of radicals, sleazebags, indicted crooks, international influence peddlars, Washington lobbyists and so on who are friends and business associates of Bill and Hillary Clinton would stretch for page after page after page. It is laughable to even think that HRC loyalists are making that case about Obama based on his personal associates, given the Clintons' record (and believe me, I am the ultimate fan of the Clintons; I am quite certain that Hillary would have made a great president, just as her husband was). And the fact that he (admittedly this is true) has flip-flopped on several issues in the course of this campaign is also endemic to politicians and not particularly relevant to how the man would actually govern (except to say that one fears his pragmatism might lead him to compromise on important legislation). There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- in Obama's political life that gives any indication that he desires to be anything other than a mainstream centrist Democrat. If anything, it is a legitimate criticism to say that he has shied away from moments where he'd be asked to take a tough stand. Obviously he has done this with his political future in mind, but just as obviously he has passed up every possible chance to be anything other than mainstream. And, as always, the best indicator of what a candidate believes is what he or she says, and writes, and publishes. And the day you can find anything that Obama has actually said in public or published as a policy position on his website, will be the day I begin to take even remotely seriously the notion that he is some kind of radical leftist of any stripe, let alone a secret Marxist. Nonetheless, I thank for actually addressing one of my comments about policy, which NQers almost invariably ignore. So thank you for that. Well, at least one person on this thread actually chose to respond to me. You are basing your position that Obama is not mainstream for the most part on trivia. The church is a church; his reasons for staying there no doubt were complex and personal, and the fact that his pastor said some ridiculous things hardly speaks to Obama’s likelihood of governing in any specific way as President. The fact that a chosen few “associates” of all the thousands of people that all politicians like him know happen to be former radicals or current sleazebags is completely irrelevant; if anyone here gave a shit, the list of radicals, sleazebags, indicted crooks, international influence peddlars, Washington lobbyists and so on who are friends and business associates of Bill and Hillary Clinton would stretch for page after page after page. It is laughable to even think that HRC loyalists are making that case about Obama based on his personal associates, given the Clintons’ record (and believe me, I am the ultimate fan of the Clintons; I am quite certain that Hillary would have made a great president, just as her husband was). And the fact that he (admittedly this is true) has flip-flopped on several issues in the course of this campaign is also endemic to politicians and not particularly relevant to how the man would actually govern (except to say that one fears his pragmatism might lead him to compromise on important legislation). There is nothing — absolutely nothing — in Obama’s political life that gives any indication that he desires to be anything other than a mainstream centrist Democrat. If anything, it is a legitimate criticism to say that he has shied away from moments where he’d be asked to take a tough stand. Obviously he has done this with his political future in mind, but just as obviously he has passed up every possible chance to be anything other than mainstream. And, as always, the best indicator of what a candidate believes is what he or she says, and writes, and publishes. And the day you can find anything that Obama has actually said in public or published as a policy position on his website, will be the day I begin to take even remotely seriously the notion that he is some kind of radical leftist of any stripe, let alone a secret Marxist.

Nonetheless, I thank for actually addressing one of my comments about policy, which NQers almost invariably ignore. So thank you for that.

]]> By: HellHathNoFury http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367656 HellHathNoFury Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:38:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367656 Hmmmm. I can see all of the obamabots now glowing with the feel-good dreaminess of it all. Winnie the Pooh as foreign policy advisor. I'm trying to recall if there was anything in Winnie's forest quite so daunting as the threat of nuclear terrorist strikes. I was more of a fan of Dr. Suess myself, but I wouldn't hand over the reigns of power to Cindy Loo Who, or Thing 1 & 2. Come to think of it, my favorite book as a child was The Emperor's New Clothes. Now that book does seem oddly appropriate to "King Obama" - who is all hype and rumor in a popularity contest, but even a child can see he "has no clothes on". Hmmmm. I can see all of the obamabots now glowing with the feel-good dreaminess of it all. Winnie the Pooh as foreign policy advisor. I’m trying to recall if there was anything in Winnie’s forest quite so daunting as the threat of nuclear terrorist strikes. I was more of a fan of Dr. Suess myself, but I wouldn’t hand over the reigns of power to Cindy Loo Who, or Thing 1 & 2.

Come to think of it, my favorite book as a child was The Emperor’s New Clothes. Now that book does seem oddly appropriate to “King Obama” – who is all hype and rumor in a popularity contest, but even a child can see he “has no clothes on”.

]]> By: Johnny at Work http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367572 Johnny at Work Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:07:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367572 You must be from another planet if you think Obama is "Mainstream". His church of 20 years is not mainstream His closest advisers are Marxists His closest pals are convicted political fixers and serial bombers His pastor is God only knows what, but certainly not mainstream. And, he has flip flopped on every campaign position you can't possibly know which position he is really behind. We know for sure he's a Marxist, just ask his advisor Zbig. You know, Zbig, the guy who thinks the US constitution and our way of life has run its course and should make way for the intellectually superior Marxist doctrine. That's no earthquake; Roosevelt, Truman Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan are rolling in their graves. Mainstream my ass. You must be from another planet if you think Obama is “Mainstream”.

His church of 20 years is not mainstream

His closest advisers are Marxists

His closest pals are convicted political fixers and serial bombers

His pastor is God only knows what, but certainly not mainstream.

And, he has flip flopped on every campaign position you can’t possibly know which position he is really behind.

We know for sure he’s a Marxist, just ask his advisor Zbig. You know, Zbig, the guy who thinks the US constitution and our way of life has run its course and should make way for the intellectually superior Marxist doctrine.

That’s no earthquake; Roosevelt, Truman Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan are rolling in their graves.

Mainstream my ass.

]]> By: Johnny at Work http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367539 Johnny at Work Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:55:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367539 Obama does a back flip on NAFTA and says it's OK now. In an interview with Fortune Magazine O'boy backed off his harshest attacks on the free trade agreement and indicated he didn't want to unilaterally reopen negotiations on NAFTA. "Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified," Although he had called NAFTA "devastating" and "a big mistake," despite nonpartisan studies concluding that the trade zone has had a mild, positive effect on the U.S. economy. "Does that mean his rhetoric was overheated and amplified? "Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don't exempt myself," he answered." http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/18/magazines/fortune/easton_obama.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008061815 Does this ass clown hold any position for more than a day? How can we trust anything he says when he admits to being a lying in his campaign rhetoric? Obama does a back flip on NAFTA and says it’s OK now.

In an interview with Fortune Magazine O’boy backed off his harshest attacks on the free trade agreement and indicated he didn’t want to unilaterally reopen negotiations on NAFTA.

“Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified,” Although he had called NAFTA “devastating” and “a big mistake,” despite nonpartisan studies concluding that the trade zone has had a mild, positive effect on the U.S. economy.

“Does that mean his rhetoric was overheated and amplified? “Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don’t exempt myself,” he answered.”

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/18/magazines/fortune/easton_obama.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008061815

Does this ass clown hold any position for more than a day?

How can we trust anything he says when he admits to being a lying in his campaign rhetoric?

]]> By: sfhillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367456 sfhillary Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:26:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367456 Yes, it's really happening, yes, we're about to elect Barack Obama, and no, we are not in trouble. He is a mainstream Democrat just like Hillary Clinton and he will govern as such. You NQers talk about his incompetence and stupidity and ignore the fact that between the two, Obama's primary campaign organization was vastly superior, much better run, much more efficient and much smarter. I'm sure you all have a reason why none of that is really so, but the facts are the facts: he won. Nothing was stolen. Hillary didn't get as many delegates. She started the primaries with a 100 delegate lead (100 or so superdelegates to Obama's zero) and finished it behind by 200. And considering that when it comes to actual voters they were virtually tied, Obama's delegate victory can almost entirely be attributed to a superior game plan which carried him through February and March with caucus victories in states that the Clinton organization utterly ignored, and many many dozens of super-delegates who became persuaded by what they saw that Obama was the candidate to carry the Democratic flag in November. Again: spare me your moaning about how the "powers that be" were in the bag for Obama. The fact is, they were in the bag for Clinton; she began the primaries with over a hundred super-delegate endorsements, Obama began it with none. Bottom line: his campaign and organization and battle plan were far superior to hers; in fact, as you will all learn on November 4th, his organization is probably the most effective this country has seen in the modern political era. He now has thousands and thousands of volunteers signing up new voters in swing states all across the country where McCain is barely getting off the ground. You are going to see a landslide, and it will all be because of Obama's superior intellect, strategy and leadership. But hey, call him incompetent and stupid and silly all you want. As long as McCain doesn't get the opportunity to pick another Supreme Court justice, it's still a free country. Yes, it’s really happening, yes, we’re about to elect Barack Obama, and no, we are not in trouble. He is a mainstream Democrat just like Hillary Clinton and he will govern as such. You NQers talk about his incompetence and stupidity and ignore the fact that between the two, Obama’s primary campaign organization was vastly superior, much better run, much more efficient and much smarter. I’m sure you all have a reason why none of that is really so, but the facts are the facts: he won. Nothing was stolen. Hillary didn’t get as many delegates. She started the primaries with a 100 delegate lead (100 or so superdelegates to Obama’s zero) and finished it behind by 200. And considering that when it comes to actual voters they were virtually tied, Obama’s delegate victory can almost entirely be attributed to a superior game plan which carried him through February and March with caucus victories in states that the Clinton organization utterly ignored, and many many dozens of super-delegates who became persuaded by what they saw that Obama was the candidate to carry the Democratic flag in November. Again: spare me your moaning about how the “powers that be” were in the bag for Obama. The fact is, they were in the bag for Clinton; she began the primaries with over a hundred super-delegate endorsements, Obama began it with none.

Bottom line: his campaign and organization and battle plan were far superior to hers; in fact, as you will all learn on November 4th, his organization is probably the most effective this country has seen in the modern political era. He now has thousands and thousands of volunteers signing up new voters in swing states all across the country where McCain is barely getting off the ground. You are going to see a landslide, and it will all be because of Obama’s superior intellect, strategy and leadership.

But hey, call him incompetent and stupid and silly all you want. As long as McCain doesn’t get the opportunity to pick another Supreme Court justice, it’s still a free country.

]]> By: sfhillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367409 sfhillary Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:13:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367409 I very much doubt that you know anything whatsoever about John McCain's "policy." In virtually every respect he is hardcore conservative Republican. He wants to continue our occupation of Iraq for decades to come. He wants to maintain Bush's tax cuts for the super-wealthy forever, leading to an immense, intractable budget deficit. He is staunchly pro-life and has promised to appoint strict constructionist judges to the Supreme Court -- one more of those and we are living in a strongly right-wing country for decades to come with no legal recourse. He is against stem cell research. He is a strong supporter of Bush-era government surveilliance of private citizens in the name of the "war on terror" in direct contravention of the Constitution. Need I go on? "God bless John McCain"? What on earth are you smoking? I very much doubt that you know anything whatsoever about John McCain’s “policy.” In virtually every respect he is hardcore conservative Republican. He wants to continue our occupation of Iraq for decades to come. He wants to maintain Bush’s tax cuts for the super-wealthy forever, leading to an immense, intractable budget deficit. He is staunchly pro-life and has promised to appoint strict constructionist judges to the Supreme Court — one more of those and we are living in a strongly right-wing country for decades to come with no legal recourse. He is against stem cell research. He is a strong supporter of Bush-era government surveilliance of private citizens in the name of the “war on terror” in direct contravention of the Constitution. Need I go on? “God bless John McCain”? What on earth are you smoking?

]]> By: sfhillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367396 sfhillary Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:09:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367396 I prefer the Quinnipac poll which shows Obama ahead in OH and FL and waaaay ahead in PA. Oh, and the poll that shows him beating McCain 60/35 or so among Latinos. You're watching a blowout shaping up, folks. I prefer the Quinnipac poll which shows Obama ahead in OH and FL and waaaay ahead in PA. Oh, and the poll that shows him beating McCain 60/35 or so among Latinos. You’re watching a blowout shaping up, folks.

]]> By: Zeke http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367305 Zeke Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:41:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367305 Pleeeze stopppppp! Lunch is already on the floor. Have some mercy on my coffee!:) Pleeeze stopppppp!
Lunch is already on the floor.
Have some mercy on my coffee!:)

]]> By: alexei http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367280 alexei Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:34:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367280 Again, Obama followers like their master, are not original - they as he steals ideas and pass them off as their own. Again, Obama followers like their master, are not original – they as he steals ideas and pass them off as their own.

]]> By: stateofdisbelief http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367272 stateofdisbelief Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:32:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367272 a re-enactment of the "secret" meeting between Hillary and Barack. With "Rabbit" as Hillary and "Pooh" as Obama. --------------------- “"Pooh," said Rabbit kindly, "you haven't any brain." "I know," said Pooh humbly.” a re-enactment of the “secret” meeting between Hillary and Barack.

With “Rabbit” as Hillary and “Pooh” as Obama.

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“”Pooh,” said Rabbit kindly, “you haven’t any brain.”
“I know,” said Pooh humbly.”

]]> By: Dave http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367243 Dave Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:33 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367243 Wasn't Obama supposed to surround himself with intelligent people in order to compensate for his lack of experience? I guess it's not working for the Junior Senator. <strong>http://www.obama-wire.com/ has been reporting on this stuff for the past couple weeks; great source of news!</strong> Wasn’t Obama supposed to surround himself with intelligent people in order to compensate for his lack of experience? I guess it’s not working for the Junior Senator.

http://www.obama-wire.com/ has been reporting on this stuff for the past couple weeks; great source of news!

]]> By: stateofdisbelief http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367218 stateofdisbelief Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:21:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367218 Quote from Pooh giving a speech without a teleprompter... "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me.” Quote from Pooh giving a speech without a teleprompter…

“I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me.”

]]> By: stateofdisbelief http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367203 stateofdisbelief Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:18:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367203 And also... "People who don't Think probably don't have Brains; rather, they have grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake" -- Pooh And also…

“People who don’t Think probably don’t have Brains; rather, they have grey fluff that’s blown into their heads by mistake” — Pooh

]]> By: stateofdisbelief http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367195 stateofdisbelief Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:17:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/18/obama-and-the-parables-of-pooh/#comment-367195 The Obamobots favorite Pooh Quote: "Don't underestimate the value of Doing Nothing, of just going along, listening to all the things you can't hear, and not bothering" - Pooh The Obamobots favorite Pooh Quote:

“Don’t underestimate the value of Doing Nothing, of just going along, listening to all the things you can’t hear, and not bothering” – Pooh

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