Gore: Naive and Irrelevant. At Best!
By PaganPower on June 19, 2008 at 5:00 AM in Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, Michigan, Popular Vote, Supreme Court
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read the words. There it was for me to take in slowly. I almost choked and hurled on the spot. But there it was in black and white. Those words that would force me to change my entire belief structure.
One of my heroes died Monday. It was sad to watch. Because it was a public slaying. Even worse it was a planned suicide.
I can barely force myself to repeat the words. But here they are. And please don’t blame me if you suffer the same adverse reactions as I did. Warning: This is painful to read.
Gore Endorses Obama as a Solver of Problems
Mr. Gore and Mr. Obama strode onto the stage arm in arm to thundering applause from a crowd of nearly 20,000 people at a downtown arena. As Mr. Gore ticked through a long list of challenges facing the nation, he hailed Mr. Obama as “clearly the candidate best able to solve these problems and bring change to America.”
And yes, the emphasis is mine.
How could Gore or anyone in their right mind say this? Just what actual accomplishments does Obama have that make him this mythic shining solver of problems? Can anyone offer me even one example where Obama solved a problem? I mean besides the thug crap that got him elected in the first place. And hoodwinking. And bamboozling. I mean seriously… go ahead and enlighten me. Please.
And if this wasn’t bad enough, Gore opened his mouth and said the most ironic thing.
“Take it from me, elections matter. If you think the next appointments to the Supreme Court are important, you know that elections matter.”
No one in the press even caught this. Yes Al, elections matter. We remember Florida in 2000. That is why we cannot imagine you supporting a candidate that not only lost Florida, he lost it cheating. And when people tried to have a re-vote, it was the candidate you are endorsing that stood in the way.
Then you have the nerve to go to Michigan of all places and endorse him.
Yes Al, elections matter. That is why it discredits what credibility you carry when you support a candidate that thought so little of the voters of Michigan that he took his name off the ballot. Then he stood in the way when many people tried to include him on the ballot anyway get a re-vote there. You support a candidate that received illegitimate delegates that he didn’t earn in Michigan.
Not exactly a problem solver there Al. Except maybe a solver of his own problems. Does the name Alice Palmer mean anything to you?
And this Supreme Court nonsense. When are you people going to stop playing all these lying games about the Supreme Court? As a former President of the Senate you of all people should know that it is the Senate that determines who sits on the Supreme Court. I mean, I can understand how Obama might not know this since he has been MIA when it comes to Senate responsibilities for nearly a year and a half now. Didn’t even have time to chair a single meeting for the only committee he has any leadership responsibilities on.
Not exactly a problem solver Al! What are you thinking?
If this wasn’t ironic enough we have the words that Obama used to introduce Gore. Hold onto something sturdy because chances are you are about to fall flat on the floor. And it won’t be from laughing hysterically.
Obama stoked lasting Democratic anger over the 2000 outcome when he recognized Gore as “the winner of the popular vote for president.”
“You remember that,” Obama said as the crowd of 20,000 erupted in raucous applause.
Are you all ok? Or should I call a medic? I know that I had more than a few problems after I read this. I’m still not quite right. But you have to hand it to Obama. He certainly has the audacity. In spades.
Am I the only one that can’t imagine him introducing Hillary at a campaign event with the words:
“She won the popular vote for the Democratic nomination! You remember that?“
Did the irony just dribble onto my chin? Do I need to wipe?
And just in case you were of the mistaken notion that there is “party unity” among Obama supporters, the way Michigan Governor Granholm was booed for even mentioning Hillary’s name should disabuse you of that notion immediately. And completely.
These are the followers of the so-called problem solver you are supporting Al. Call me dense but he isn’t solving any of MY problems.
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GORE/LIEBERMAN/2000
The BBC delicious entry seems to confirm my previous selection of “best of Sinclair”
“Obama not pathetic, insists wife:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/obama-not-pathetic-insists-wife/
I still like Al, but was relieved when he didn’t run this year.
Since he put on weight, it seems like there has been a mental slowdown. I keep wondering about physical disorder. I don’t think he would have held up in the rigor of the debates.
The endorsement is one thing but why did it take so long. What was promised to this guy to endorse someone like BOBO in the first place. Don’t they know that being associated with this guy will bring a lots of people down.
BTW, does anybody know where I can find out how much money the BOBO camp has on hand.
Seems to be a pretty big secret since April. Huh. Imagine that. He made all that stink about Clinton not releasing her tax returns, and he’s given us sooooo much information. No Fundraising figures for over a month, no Birth Certificate, no Illinois State Senate records, no Passport, no cell phone number to dispute Larry Sinclair. Imagine that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/us/politics/19campaign.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1213869732-cie7h56JKV4AIc3lCedBsw
He’s back to his old trick of cutting off press access.
Won’t show up to town halls. Won’t talk to the press openly.
Nothing new!
The photo op president.
He’s making sure he keeps them OUT of meetings.
This is further scariness…. WHY does this man need to HIDE. He is a F’in WHIMP. He thinks oh! I’ll just deny all these “rumors” and of course that means they aren’t true! He thinks he can pick and choose who and how he is interviewed??!! WAKE UP FOLKS!!! WHAT a F*****KIN ASS!!! Are Americans this GULLIBLE??!! Apparently so! The NYT article never challenged him or his methods! This must be the new world order of obama hope and change… Well barky… if you have nothing to hide them let us in!
I did not find Gore’s endorsement surprising. He waited until the end then supported the winner. I am sure he wants the Democrats to win back the presidency and would have backed Hillary in the same way.
If he had come out for Obama earlier, then I would have been angry with him, but by waiting he stayed neutral and let the voters decide.
My goodness…….
R.I.P Al, guess I never knew you!
Those statements about popular vote and even the solis-doyle issue is Obama’s way of giving Hillary and her supporters the finger.
Shame on Al Gore though for endorsing him.
Al, lost in 2000 then he back Kerry in 2004. I guess he is backing an other looser this time around. Al should stick to global warming and stay out of politics. He never was very good at it.
Actually, Gore endorsed Dean in Dec 2003, CNN Link here: http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/elec04.prez.gore.dean/
He’s a Democrat, he endorsed the nominee in 2004, Kerry. He’s endorsing the nominee in 2008. Seems pretty logical, what would you have him do? Endorse somebody who has dropped out of the election?
Gore is an asshole — and a sexist pig.
Is Gore really this stupid that he doesn’t get it — he doesn’t comprehend that CLINTON won the popular vote Clinton won the must win states needed to win the General Election. Clinton won WEST VIRGINIA — a state that has voted for the winner since 1916!
This proves that the Democrat Party is DEAD — gone. And it proves that Al Gore is one of the stupidest jerks alive.
He of all people is playing that FU***** scare card — the big bad Supreme court is going to get you suckers — so vote for who ever the hell the DNC has chosen — even if the guy is a sexist pig and could care less about women’s human rights.
Al Gore — Go to Hell along with Edwards and all the other stupid idiots.
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I no longer believe anything these jerks say. They’re all a bunch of liars.
Still peddling that line that the states Clinton won Obama can’t — after all the polls show Obama with leads in Ohio and PA?
And don’t use that double standard of using polls from two months ago to claim that Obama can’t win the states while ignoring current polls showing he most certainly can.
Bush’s job approval is 22-25% in those states. And Bush is a ball and chain around McCain, a candidate on the wrong side of nearly every policy issue people care about.
LOL. Today’s Rasmussen poll of Ohio show’s McCain with an edge. Polls have been rather unreliable this year.
Yes Shrub’s approval rating is very low in those states, but congress is even lower. Pelosi is “a ball and chain” for Obama.
roflmao!
still pushing that line that obambi can win the states he dissed?
get a clue: all signals point toward obambi being GWB, only black. Cuts off press access; disses people he disagrees with; agressive hostile supporters; sexist asshole.
you must be worried to keep posting on this site.
you are irrelevant, you know, but its oh so fun to see your idiocy.
Bush is not running and McCain and bush do NOT go side by side… So find some other scapegaot and excuse… What ever makies you feel better idiot!
Some people will devour any piece of crap piled in front of them. Fortunately, I’m not one of those people.
Interesting how Little Lord Obama can’t “bump” his national lead, yet the states he needs SUDDENLY swing in his favor.
Sure. Whatever.
Stupid? Or just corrupt? How can a man who won the popular vote himself come out against the woman who won the popular vote? I hope these people have plans of a dictatorship because they are never going to win any election now.
Al Gore is just proving once again that politicians have no integrity. Supporting the party is more important to Al Gore than supporting the candidate that most supports the environmental issues which he supposedly is most concerned.
Once Al Gore was against nuclear energy and now he supports that candidate that thinks nuclear energy is fine and dandy. Once great swathes of the left were against nuclear energy and now support the candidate that thinks nuclear energy is fine and dandy.
Hypocrites come in all sizes and shapes. Politicians who care more about party than the environment are all happily riding on the obama band wagon. Al Gore is just the latest.
What, you expected something different? Politicians are always politicians first and human beings second. With a few exceptions to this as every other rule.
I think what is surprising many people is the level of corruptness we are seeing in certain people.
There are no real leaders…only followers. No one is standing up for true principles. It’s all go along to get along, at the expense of the American people. It’s “too hard, too complicated, too messy.” They disgust me–the whole lot of them.
And “solver of problems?” That is hilarious. The guy who hasn’t had a single Senate subcommittee hearing.
And do you notice the echo?
“Solutions for America?” Who did really well in the primaries with the “problem-solving” theme? Oh yea, the one who ACTUALLY solves them…Hillary.
Following Hillary’s lead, again.
Poor Algore …..he never really got over 2000.
He is a very angry man still !!
Algore anger + Obama anger + Michelle anger = LOSERS !!
My gal HRC !!
Voting McCain in 2008 !!
don’t forget that back in 2004, Kerry was not the first candidate Al endorsed. Intact it was none other than Howard Dean.
So he has only backed loosers up to this point.
Despite his many gifts, this just proves how much of a tin ear Gore has when it comes to politics. I was originally hoping that he would run but now I see that it would have been a disaster. Because of his previous poor choices of candidate, he waited until he thought the coast was clear and everything was pretty much settled — but then the Solis-Doyle thingy broke on that day. Also the Clinton boos must have been uncomfortable for him too. He really should just stick to his specialty and stay the heck out of politics from now on.
well…Gore didn’t come out for Hillary when it would have counted and mattered. why are we surprised he’s endorsing oblahblah. there must be an offer on the table for him in the oblah’s admin. one for edwards too.
little do they realise that the promises are empty….McCain is the next POTUS.
the dem party is mortally wounded by the hand of the DNC, rules committee, new authoritarian left, obama bots,sexism, bigotry and accusations of racism against white people, hate spewing obama mentor pastors, and an unending stream of lies, machinations, hoodwinkings,…you name it.
what the hell is really going on here?
Have you seen the latest Fed Ex commercial? It features a businessman holding up a lemming and trying to dissuade his employees from blindly following the crowd. He of course explains that the company has switched to Fed Ex, then the lemming escapes and all his employees drop on all fours and scamper out of the room after it. Reminds me of something…
To wrap things up, the Fed Ex guy reassuringly tells him “it takes time” (or similar words). Problem is, I don’t know if we have that much time left.
I don’t think we should be too hard on Gore. I think the same thing happened to him that did Hillary.
Right after Obama “proclaimed” himself the nominee, Gore only congratulated him but did not endorse. Many people took notice. My guess is the powers that be (cough:: Dean) told him to get his ass out there and endorse the guy. Why such an endorsement comes now, I have no idea. If he’s the nominee, then he doesn’t need any more friggin endorsements.
However, if Obama even thinks about forming his lips again to utter the phrase “popular vote” I’ll stroke out. My mouth fell open.
I used to think that way too a few days ago, but am beginning to change my mind. This is a time when politicians need to band together and stand up to Dean and company.
“Can anyone offer me even one example where Obama solved a problem?”
No. Obama does not solve problems, he creates problems.
Right now, Obama IS the problem …
Perhaps a distinction without a difference, but you asked. He said, “candidate best able” which is now between Obama and McCain. He did not say “best candidate,” as in “clearly the best candidate for solving the difficult problems,” bla bla bla, which would be Hillary Clinton.
They are all playing the game the way it is played. Support Obama. Perhaps after he is nominated the scandals will break in the MSM and not only will he be ripped to shreds, Democrats will be seen as fools for nominating him in a year that was supposed to be a gimme. We won’t know what hit us.
On the other hand, yes we will.
What an utter loser Gore truly is. At least he helped me clean off my bookcase. I donated his books to the trash where they belong.
[...] the only thing one could logically expect after Obama uttered these words in reference to Al Gore during the Michigan rally (yep, the one where they threw Muslims under the bus) on Monday: Obama [...]
Gore screwed up royally in his quest for the WH when he dissed his former boss. He could have won in a walk had he used the Big Dog to campaign for him, but pride and that “change” concept were too strong for him to abandon. I’m sure he looked on with horror when 1) Hillary won the NY Senate seat and 2) she launched into a successful presidential campaign this year.
Al Jr. is one of those privileged tots who think that public office is a a right, not something to seek and battle for.
He probably never felt comfortable with the rabble rouser from Arkansas, someone that, for all I know, he considered white trash.
No, Gore didn’t die for me Monday. Frankly, after he bent over in 2000 in Tallahasee and let the Repthugs have their way with him, he was all but dead in my eyes.
Thank you. I used to cringe when I heard people call Al Gore the leader of the Democratic Party after 2000. Some leader; he bends over and takes one from the Gipper, and leaves the country twisting in the wind. Next came Howard Dean, the King of quitters (he caved after 3 contests, so why should we be surprised he wants Hillary to hang it up?) one of which was the highly dubious Iowa Caucus, where he allowed the MSM to declare him “over”. Then they literally name him their leader. Next up – John Kerry. I had to hold my nose to vote for him; his only accomplishment by the end of the campaign in my eyes was that he wasn’t George W. Bush.
I’ll tell you what, folks: If I could force myself to pull the lever for Kerry in order to vote against Bush, I can force myself to vote for John McCain.
Seem to have lost part of this post.
Part of my point was, it’s the Democratic Party that’s pushing the losers. Now it’s time to declare them the losers. We need a viable national third party in this country, and we need it now. What say we start sending e-mails to Big Dawg begging him to secede from the dis-union. Let’s face it – he’s the only thing holding HRC back at this point (his legacy, like he’s going to even have one after Obama & Co. are done with him). If he leads they way, all bets are off! What do you think?
What has Gore EVeR done really in politics. ? Not much.
Wanna feel better? Just think: Al Gore doesn’t have enough sense not to fall for this guy, BUT I DO!!
The list of political losers is racking up…
A loser, endorses another loser, who hired another LOSER1 A HAT TRICK!
Gore should stick to the environment. His pathetic campaign with his SUPREMELY stupid move of distancing himself from Clinton and EIGHT YEARS of unprecidented prosperity along with chosing Alfred E Neuma..OOPS Lieberman as a VP tell you everything you need to know about Al’s political senses. Nice guy, strong environmentalist, political moron.
Look at the bright side, Pagan. At least you won’t have to defend him for living in that ridiculously energy-inefficient mansion anymore. Let the Republicans tear him to shreds again (or is it still). See if I care (not).
Although I know he is very intelligent and well intentioned, he’s also stiff, he’s boring, and he’s greedy, and worst of all he’s been disloyal to the people that literally dragged him out of obscurity. Face it, if it wasn’t for the Clintons, no one outside of TN would have ever even have heard of this guy.
Obama must be desparate for votes in MI. Those poeple must be pissed about being disenfranchised. So they trapes Gore out to cover for him. They used Gore because of 2000. I wonder if they will try to force Hillary to stump for Obama in Florida!!!! How pathetic!!
What difference does it really make if Gore endorses Obama or not. It was a stupid move for Gore. Hence he just lost a bunch of support. Maybe millions of people. But for Obama to go to him and ask for his support that is the real story. Why is the Obama campaign so worried? Oh maybe because he can’t get the Hillary supporters to back him. Which could end up 6 to 8 million people.
I sent Gore an angry email on the day of his endorsement. But now after a few days, I could care less. Just one more dem trying to prop up Obama and save the party, even though they know he’s an empty suit. They broke it they bought it. Frankly, the whole situation is pathetic.
You can’t be serious. Al Gore won a Nobel Peace Prize and is largely responsible for the growing awareness of climate change. He’s working his butt off on climate change, trying to plan ahead for it, and he’s more relevant than any other politician I can think of! Is your criteria for “relevant” just that someone doesn’t endorse Obama? How ridiculous!
This blog is irrelevant. Hillary lost and you just can’t deal with it.
There is no Global Warming. It is a fraud. The whole entire thing from CO2 heating the earth, to the arctic losing Ice.
It’s all a lie.
And Gore is profiting nicely with his Carbon trading company.
More evidence that this site is a place for redstaters….
Yes, and we secretly have sock puppets that do our bidding. You aren’t exactly what I would call very intelligent.
“Democrat”:
And you base that sweeping generalization on what… one idiotic comment ?
How about basing it on the fact that most people here plan to vote for the Republican in the most important election in a generation? Sorry, but this is a Republican site, period.
So you call someone who has always voted Democratic and plans to vote for more Democratic than Republican this year to be a Republican? Strange definition.
We are way beyond Hillary now. You are the one who can’t deal with the fact this blog exists. We all have a right to our own opinions. I think maybe you should lurk where you feel more comfortable. Unless you can contribute in a less condescending way.
Actually, Obama lost. He chose to take his name off the MI ballot and was rewarded for it. I am sure it has something to do with Donna Brazile who called herself an undeclared super when we all know who she is for. Furthermore, she has been scheming and plotting this whole thing (Obama-mania)since Kerry’s loss in 2004.
Why they even bothered with a primary season is beyond me. For Deaner to wait until the Sunday before the last 2 primaries to come out and speak about sexism, etc. – was such a slap in the face and way, way to late.
Obama does NOT – even after being rewarded the delegates for NOT doing the right thing and having a re-vote – he STILL does NOT have the delegates required to secure the nomination. Supers don’t count in reaching the ‘magic’ number.
I have always admired VP Gore. He is a champion for our earth. But, I cannot figure out why he would endorse a nincompoop.
When your candidate loses, you can point a finger right back at the DNC because they are the ones who rigged the entire primary season.
Hillary did not lose. Didn’t you hear Obama proclaim that the “winner of the popular vote” is the actual victor?
If we are all irrelevant, then you can leave and we won’t have to listen to your tantrums anymore. And don’t worry about that large percentage of voters that will not support him in November.
b’bye.
The only climate change is the stink & pollution coming out of the DNC and barky’s backside!
Al Gore always struck me as a wimp; he rolled over and we got Bush. Is he making a play for coming back?
Gore should go back to climate control. He’s better at that than politics.
Bonnie, J – I agree totally, Gore should go back to climate control and stay out of politics. He lost the 2000 GE because he ran an incompetent campaign (managed by Brazile no less) was boring, and lost his home state (pathetic) , all the time too arrogant to ask Bill Clinton for support. I hold him responsible for 8 years of Bush.
Yeah,…Al Gore “working his butt off”" make me laugh. Al Gore is figuring ways to sell you carbon credits, and he is not even giving you a tissue to wipe up his crap when he is done speaking.
Gore ia a political huckster, he is a sublime hypocrit who lives a very lavish lifestyle….steals other people’s mojo to win Nobel, and continues to lecture OTHER PEPOLE when he needs to reduce his own carbon foot print.
HEY AL HOW ABOUT FINALLY LEADING BY EXAMPLE????
Obama’s constituency consists of AA’s, young voters, and cool people. Gore’s endorsement did nothing for Obama.
Obama will have to rely on the music industry to get helpful endorsements. Also, sports figures and academics. I don’t know where the “cool people” are these days, but he needs cool young celebrities to endorse him too.
PUMA
Obama’s constituency consists of AA’s, young voters, and cool people.
I would change it to “people who think they are cool,” as in people who are spoiled and do not have a clue what it means to have to work hard to survive.
Obama: King of the Narcissists
The cool young celebrities all went to Canada.
The party is unifying! Great news!
After Hillary Clinton endorsed Obama, now Al Gore! The Democrats do indeed have much better policies than the Republicans.
And it’s so wonderful that the presumptive nominee is LEADING the presumptive Republican nominee in the key states and in the electoral college.
Electoral vote projections based on polls:
mydd: 355 Obama, 183 McCain
fivethirtyeight: 333 Obama, 205 McCain
I’m sure you think your helping your cult leader by commenting here, your not. You seem to be worried or you wouldn’t waste your time here. We really get under your skin don’t we. Peace brother! Let it go, be free.
The party is unifying! Great news!
LOL! Did you miss the memo about the 25% of Hillary supporters who will not vote Obama and the 18% who will just stay home?
How old are you? Were you voter aware in 2000? Do a little reading about the electoral college. And you can desperately hold onto the meager polls that come and go–the Republicans haven’t even started to deconstruct Obama yet. Dukakis was up by 17% at this time and I don’t seem to remember the President Dukakis years.
“Democrat”:
I actually agree with some of what you have said. The Democrats, even as they have been reformulated as the Obamacrats, generally (though not universally)do have better policies than the Republicans (McCain just can’t seem to stop channeling “W”), but the presumptuous nominee of the Democratic Party is the real problem because stated policies mean absolutely bupkis to this guy, as evidenced by the many comments of his advisors (to the effect of: “Don’t worry, he won’t really do that”.) Obama is a cypher, an unknown “X-Factor”, empty suit, a vessel for projection of all of the anxieties of his supporters, and an unacceptable risk, given the truely deep shit this country is in right now.
Larry,
Can you provide an analysis on the issue covered in the recent NYT article about Obama limiting access to the press even more, not permitting them in an African American church leaders conference and not giving them access to religious leaders at another meeting he attended? This means we are not hearing any other comments and promises he may be making.
This doesn’t seem right.
All I can say (over and over) is that there is something truly diabolical going on in the Democratic Party. I really don’t believe these people are any kind of democrats anymore.
The scary thing to me is that we’ve got a bunch of wannabes pushing the Clintons out so they can try to implement the Clinton platform and claim the credit. Unfortunately, they are a bunch of people who couldn’t be effective before Bill Clinton was president and are now behaving in a totally incompetent and corrupt way.
[...] Under the Bus 19 06 2008 The blog-which-shall-not-be-named throws Gore under the bus. Again. [...]
Gore is part of the problem. Donna had his tacit approval in her manipulation of the primaries. It was always meant to be a showdown between the real world solution vs. leftist ideology.
Obama’s bringing up the popular vote thing, to thunderous applause, was just giving Hillary the finger one more time. And also to Al Gore, because Barry was reminding everybody that he won the nomination the same way the G.W.Bush won the presidency.
By bringing up these facts, Barry is laugnhing ni Gore’s face, saying, “Bush and I are winners, and Hillary and Al are losers! And we have Al Gore, by jumping on the Barky bandwagon, endorsing the same process that kept him out of the White House. And the crowds are implicitly cheering that same system, a system that rewards the popular vote loser.
I kind of lost my respect for Gore when he stuck his tail between his legs and wouldn’t run again in 2004. There were a lot of people who were ready to support him, and I still think he could’ve won. Instead, we got Kerry and lost again.
Gore ain’t got it where it counts in politics. Even his current glory is gained in part because of Bush’s abyssmal failure.
I suspect that unlike those of us who are reading this blog, the majority of prospective voters rely on the endorsements of well known political figures like Vice President Gore to steer their own support, presuming these ‘insiders’ have access to information about the candidates which is unavailable to the general public, making that endorsement more well-informed than the ‘whim’ of the average citizen. Tragically, the presumption that these public endorsements are more ’spot on’ than individual preferences misses a critical fact: picking the best candidate is not a question of information but of interest.
Endorsing the Worst Candidate Ever™ is hardly a feather in Al’s cap.
Out of lurker mode to comment:
I felt the same way as this blog author. One of my heroes died.
But it was actually a slow death. He started dying when he sat by and said nothing against the misogyny, misrepresentation, open media villification, the stealing of votes for someone not on the ballot and the disenfranchisement of voters. Most of these are issues he should have stood up against. His death was like a cancer, but their was no relief at the end – weird…perhaps I was “hoping” – didn’t even know I had it in me.
I have absolutely no respect left for Al Gore. I don’t give a shit what causes he is working on. His credibility and judgement aren’t worth squat.
http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
Can you see the change? Not from our perspective. You can’t get away with preaching change and then play the same old political game. If you didnt know already Obama just backed out of public financing (another flip flop).
“In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”
http://www.obama-wire.com
I wasn’t offended by Gore. He gave his usual unrousing speech. *haha He’s not going to campaign for Obama. The MI kick-off was it. He did not endorse in the primaries as promised.
And he really couldn’t care less about politics at this point. He’s been telling everyone that, but people just refuse to believe it.
What are all of you so excited about. Endorsements are meaningless. Of course Gore is going to support the presumptive nominee so what. And he is going to say nice things. What I disagree with is his going to Michigan to do it. Michigan was robbed by Bambi and his thugs Dean and Peolsi.
I just got back from the Apple. I heard the “whitey tape.” I don’t know if it was audio or video. I heard it on the phone. I called up an old friend and suddenly I started hearing this. “What is that?”. I ask. “That’s the whitey tape,” he tells me.
I couldn’t understand each and every word because it was played back over the phone. But it was a bit of a shocker, that’s for sure. I didn’t know what to say so I didn’t say anything. Actually I was somewhat afraid to ask questions about it.
I was asked informally to keep all details confidential and I will. But I have heard it. Honest. On a scale of 1 to 10 I give the “tape” a 9. I would guesstimate that on a bad day it would hurt Obama’s ratings by about 20%. If they wait until late October to release it then I think it could swing the election for the Republicans. But in this case timing would be everything.
There is a link to it on the AOL front page in small letters. I couldn;t open cause of my browser problems… That was this morning!
Dear PaganPower, Thanks for your kind invitation to people with opposing ideas to enlighten you. You’ve shown here at NQ such a consistent openminded, fair, reasonable sensibility that I have no doubt you’d be receptive to everyone’s points of view. No, you may not wind up agreeing, but that’s okay, you’d say, “that’s how democracy works.” Despite your differences you’d surely recognize others have different perspectives and you’d respect their competing logics as good-faithed. You’d even be open to the possibility that competing logics might possibly be right. You’d see all the Al Gores of the world who support Barrack, and you’d say to yourself, “Maybe I’m missing something here…. Maybe I should mix in a healthy dose of skepticism about my own biases with my skepticism about Barack.”
So I very much look forward to your displays of such openmindedness after your (no doubt) sincere invitation for respectful, adult debate. Thanks so much for being so open to persuasion!
I can’t speak more on this as I am so saddened by the “typical politician” position he took to use Obama talking points and “fall in line” with “party unity” in his continuous example of putting “party first”, beyond anything else, including his “own words” that “Global WArming doesn’t have a political party” and this is “a moral issue” and he will be “working hard to have the candidates discuss the issues to determine who is best able to address Global Warming”, showing he was able to say anything regardless of realityand contradicting his own statements.
Even though he waited til after the primary ended and we had the annointed, pushed candidate, that he “unified” for the party leaders, it still was not the choice political move and was contradictory to his own words. I hope it was worth him using his weight on this. It’s not easy for the rest of us to look at this move has just his obligation as a party leader.
And, I should add. At least I got a laugh out of this when I even received an email from my Mother saying, “I just got an email from Al Gore endorsing Obama and asking for a donation. When pigs fly!”
The irony is so overwhelming, I’m surprised it didn’t knock them right off the stage as they speak.
Well the time has come for Al Gore to end his career as a fighter against Global Warming and return his Nobel Peace Prize after endorsing the candidate who chose Exelon money over the polution legislation Obama claims to have pssed, but my oh my he never did, what another Obama lie?
So Al Gore, are you proving that you are doing the Global Warming stint just for the money, considering the candidate you endoresed is a contributor to the major dumping and pollution in the country?
So Al Gore, justify your reasoning for supporting the candidate who defies everything you claim to be for in your Global Warming campaigns, please we’d sure like to know, anytime or else you are just proving yourself a fraud in the Global Warming work, proving you are doing for the money and not the cause, right?
Karl Rove was on Fox and said Gore is unpopular in Michigan saying his policies damage the auto industry and workers.And it was a bad idea to endorse there. Al Gore is the symbol for count every vote, odd that they picked a state where the vote count didn’t make sense.
All past, present, and future politicians are corrupt –
Thank you Democratic Party for opening our eyes to this fact.
From now on and forever more – Independent who will vote for any party based on character, experience, and issues. No more straight ballot. And screw you Al Gore and your hypocrisy. It’s obvious now.
McCain 08. Hillary 2012.
Al Gore endorsement = kiss of death.
http://us.video.aol.com/player/launcher?ar=us_en_video_748×541_full&mode=1&pmmsid=2147675
This is the link to Mo Roccas ‘Whitey’ tape… I can’t get it to work in my computer… So can’t commment.
Interesting too the aol straw poll…. for what that is worth..! 56% McC and 44 for barky
This election cycle has put the dem elites in a whole new light. Too bad Al Gore’s personal issues with the Clintons has blinded him to the folly of endorsing this incompetent and shameful nominee.
What a profound disappointment. I responded to Gore’s written request for funds with a note that we can no longer support someone, or their cause, who endorses a candidate that is a racist and sexist.
Obama just opted out of the public campaign finance system, after saying he would participate. He will be the first candidate to run an entire campaign on private funds since Watergate.
Obama had made a commitment to use Public Campaign financing. On March 1, 2007, Obama’s campaign spokesperson, Bill Burton said, “If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election,” according to the Associated Press.
A coalition of campaign-finance advocacy groups have written Obama a letter earlier this year holding him to his pledge.
So much for Obama’s word. He will say and do whatever he needs to to get elected. This isn’t change.
Democrats Against Obama
http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/campaign-finance-groups-hold-obama-to.html
Obama has proven to be untrustworthy so often that it just is getting trite to point it out. I presume that his supporters are so cynical that they do not even expect politicians to do anything other than lie, lie, lie.
Too bad….that’s a deep-seated cynicism that will only reinforce to politicians that it’s OK to have pretend elections, make phony promises, and manipulate the voters.
Not me. I’m a bit of an Annie Oakley type, though. I’m more optimistic than that.
I honestly do believe we could have real change if we insisted upon it.
That will be my message and my vote this year.
We ARE the ones WE have been waiting for….people who insist on accountability, real transparency, and a true discussion of issues.
This surprises WHO? Obama has been a liar from day one. Problem is, nobody seems to give a damn.
gore is just another politican. will we ever learn. i speak for me here also. yup he did whimp out on florida. he made made decisions first with brazile, holy joe, and then how florida was handled. he should have asked for a recount of the state. he would probably have gotten it, however! i respect his stand on global warming, but here is what i think. the democrats are full of hot air and false self righteousness. they are pigs at the dinner table just like repubs. mark my words! in two years we will despise them as much as repubs. please disagree and give me a reason to be wrong. i hope you prove me wrong.
Please evrybody send Al Gore your emails and let him know what you think. I’d like his email box to be swamped. Here’s his address:
AlGore@algore.com
and here’s a copy of an email I sent to him.
I’m one of your longtime supporters, Al. I voted for you in my state’s primary when you first ran for president back in the 80s. I supported you right from the beginning to the bitter end in the 2000 election.
I’m sorry to disappoint you now, but I think the Democratic Party has lost its moral compass this primary season. The DNC stupidly threw out millions of their own voters; in other words millions of babies out with the bathwater. I live in New Hampshire, but my mother (a lifelong Democrat) lives in Florida. She’s not half a person. To punish Dems for what the Republican legislature did is absurd. Now the DNC says they’ll seat half the Florida delegates. THE DAMAGE HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE, AND THE DNC KNOWS IT. The remedy was way too little; way too late. I’m totally disgusted with the Democratic Party. How dare they give all the Uncommitted votes in Michigan to someone who, of his own volition, took his name off the ballot. Those Uncommitted voters should be represented at the convention by Uncommitted delegates. The DNC made itself into a big Enabler for Sen. Obama. This is entitlement run amok.
One final note: the Democratic Party has taken its women voters for granted far too long. NO MORE. Iron your own shirts. Good luck in the general election.
p.s. How did Senator Obama vote on Cheney’s 2005 Energy bill?
PaganPower; Al Gore was choking on the words as he said them. So no, you were not alone in the seeing the hypocrisy.
It does not bode well for BO. Gore? He is off in his own world and not once did HE mention Senator Clinton.
His silence is telling. And so the lemmings continue to gather for annual November run off the proverbial cliff. No parachutes required or wanted.
Teak,
I admit that I felt the same way Pagan Power did on Monday. Heartbreak and betrayal doesn’t even begin to cover it. I’m composing a letter…it’s just taking me some time. I want to make certain that I have said EVERYTHING that needs to be said.
This is the Al Gore that I believed in.
“Restoring the Rule of Law”
http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096
It’s the video of the speech he gave at the DAR Constitution Hall on Jan. 16, 2006. I believed in his passion and his commitment. This speech is what has kept me going for the past several years. Every time I felt “defeated” or “emotionally spent” I would listen to it. It gave me comfort knowing that there WAS someone out there who cared about this country and might be in the position to do something about it.
Talk about AN ASSAULT ON REASON!!! Geesh…
PS- Will be seeing my Uncle in several days. I’m still anxious to hear his take on Odinga. I’ll keep in touch.
Cognitive Dissonance – When mental constructs conflict, a person will redefine or ignore one of them so as to reduce the conflict. Gore and possibly other DNC leaders are being held hostage by the African-American ‘thing’. The historical nature of Mr. Obama. The vaguely worded threats of violence against media outlets, the Denver convention, and other public interests. They really have no choice and in a case where the desire to avoid conflagration (mental construct 1) and the desire to undo white guilt (mental construct 2) come into conflict with the desire for truth and democracy (mental construct 3), the constructs with the biggest fear factor (1 and 2) win.
I believe in my own version of the “three strikes” law — three strikes and you’re forever dead to me.
Al Gore’s three strikes:
1) Shunning Bill Clinton during his 2000 run for the presidency.
2) Endorsing that idiot Howard Dean in 2004.
3) Endorsing the flawed, light-weight Barack Obama in 2008.
How could anyone trust his judgment on anything anymore?
You know when you think about it, why does the Obama camp think everyone needs to endorse him…or should I say why is Obama forcing everyone to endorse him?
NObama mentions two instances where Obama gave Hillary and her supporters “the finger”. But the Obambi did it literally the day after his pathetic loss in the Pa. Debate, he went on stage whined about “hillary throwing the kitchen sink at me last night…” and then he gave her the “flip-off”! He raised his mid-finger and the YouTube mega-hit:
‘OBAMA GIVES HILLARY THE FINGER’ was born. Obama clearly is a juvenile, disrespectful to his female felllow senator politico who has no manners and–nobody calls him on the carpet for it! He gets away with giving Hillary and her supporers and the whole country the finger (20 years) and he’s escaping scot-free!
Come november, the 18 million cracks will expolode on his smug, arrogant empty resume. And the bitter voters will make sure he goes back to Kenya to assist his Sharia-Law cousin Odinga there to treat women exactly the way Barrack likes to treat them…What a fraudster from Chicago.
And he stole the election in Chicago from Sen. alice Palmer. Sen. Palmer supported Hillary. That’s how this thug got ahead! Stealing nominations from women!
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