Women’s Checklist for Change
By Charles Lemos on June 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM in Barack Obama, Bush/Cheney, DNC, Democratic National Convention, Economy, Energy Policy Act of 2005, Hillary Clinton, Keith Olbermann, Media Bias, Misogyny, Obamedia, Sexism, Women, Women and Children, Women's Suffrage
Via Clinton Democrats, today’s action item of the day:
Today Senator Barbara Mikulski joined Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) to announce their “Checklist for Change,” a list of ten issues Congress can immediately address to improve the lives of the American people. They include: providing equal pay for equal work, keeping jobs in America, making health care affordable, taking care of our military families and veterans, restoring America’s credibility in the world, protecting our environment, making America energy independent, preparing for future disasters, enforcing fiscal accountability and protecting the family checkbook. This is a blatant pander – a “checklist” of hot button items to women.
Call me cynical, but this sudden urge to “do something” about issues most important to women strikes me as “just words.”
Please contact these leaders and tell them if they really care about the concerns of women they should stand up and endorse Hillary Clinton. If they care about equal rights and equal treatment that they should stand up against sexism in the Democratic party.
If they care about women’s rights they should investigate the treatment of Hillary Clinton by the media. If they care about reforming healthcare, they should help Hillary Clinton get into the White House. If they care about keeping jobs in America, they should not be endorsing the guy that once again has flip-flopped on NAFTA.Specifically ask Senator McCaskill “Why, after accepting approximately $500,000 from Emily’s List did you feel no obligation to back the more qualified female candidate for President?”
Sen. Klobuchar accepted roughly $300,000 from Emily’s List. Why didn’t she endorse Hillary?
Sen. Boxer was mum during this whole primary season. Why the sudden concern about women’s issues now? Senator Boxer launched an investigation into the horrific treatment of the Dixie Chicks after one of them publicly criticized Bush. Where is that outrage about the treatment Hillary has received? Where is the investigation?
Senator Claire MCCASKILL Contact Senator McCaskill
Senator Debbie STABENOW Contact Senator Stebenow
Senator Barbara BOXER Contact Senator Boxer
Senator Amy KLOBUCHAR Contact Senator Knobuchar
And remind them that it is hypocritical to support Barack Obama as an advocate for energy independence when he voted for the Bush-Cheney Energy Policy that was nothing more than than a giveway of taxpayer money to oil and energy companies. Remind them that Barack Obama has received more contributions from energy companies that all other candidates combined.
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From my blog, By The Fault.
Pandering with a capitol P
Let me get this straight, Charles, you think that
(a) supporting Hillary Clinton (I guess because she is a woman?) is more important for women generally
than
(b) “equal pay for equal work, keeping jobs in America, making health care affordable, taking care of our military families and veterans…”
Sounds like (b) would have a much greater immediate benefit for women generally.
I think that failing to support ANY of these issues which were part of Sen Clintons platform and instead endorsing “hopey changey no specific plans for anything with no experience” after you took hundreds of thousands of dollars from a group dedicated to electing women, which WE donated to for that purpose, and then after pushing the woman out, using the womans issues to try and get HER VOTERS is a frakkin insult and kick in the teeth
and I made sure they all know that..
frakkers
While I fully support your use of BSG-speak, that doesn’t actually answer the question.
I understand your issue w/ Emily’s List not supporting Hillary and instead endorsing Obama. Thats fine.
But the point of the article is to essentially say that it would be better to have supported Hillary than to propose a litany of things to make the lives of women better.
Both candidates, HRC and BO would support the items on that list.
Those women are BO supporters and now expect him to support their issues, which he will.
I can’t see how that proposal can coherently be spun as some negative for BO.
Those women are BO supporters and now expect him to support their issues, which he will.
Can you guarantee that? No, I didn’t think so.
Lucinda, I can’t guarantee anything. However, is Obama much more likely to support those issues than McCain. Yes. No question.
Frak, who cares? These women did not support the woman who has championed these issues all of her professional life. These women never put this package up and would not now except that Obama is in deep frak with women voters. All of these women were silent on the sexism and misogyny. They deserve to hear from their constituents on this.
This is a true pander and an insult.
Boxer stated she would support the candidate who won her state – but, she said and did nothing when Clinton won.
Emily’s List did support Clinton – and was very vocal on the sexist and misogynistic practices of the MSM. I believe that they were bullied into coming out in an email for Obama by these same women.
William:
Hillary was supporting those issues while Obama was busy brushing his shoulder and flipping her off. His “present” votes in the Illinois Senate on “womens’ issues”, his entire campaign, the non-intervention policy that he and his organization practiced/promoted to the misogynist treatment of Hillary by his supporters and the press, and the hiring of Patty Solis-Doyle, says a whole lot about where Obama stands on the issues that he is now being asked to champion.
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Watch this youtube from June 2006. It’s Hillary talking about Checklist for Change! (courtesy of masslib of Alegre’s Corner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6ZK58ogMPM
What a jewel that was cast aside…
That’s Hillary from 2006! Well, we can wait another two years for Senator Barbara Mikulski and Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and the rest of them to work with Hillary to forward the agendas she fought so hard for. It seems the younger male, who has spent his whole first year in the Senate running for President and has authored legislation naming a post office after a dancer and sending tax money to the Congo, is going to go to bat for these important issues. The DNC is working to remove HRC from the first ballot at the convention, because all these women who appeared on NBC this morning decided Obama was better suited to the Presidency than Hillary Clinton.
That’s why Obama voted present five times on abortion issues when he was a state legislator.
He is all about words, remember?? no substance. We women know better, we deal with it every day!
Where’s the Credability?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsOnmKK5j6Y
When Hussein moves his lips, he’s lying!
1. Emily’s List supported Hillary until she announced her suspension.
2. These women senators are bringing up issues that HIllary supported and championed. They should have been more forceful earlier on in the race in their support. Women like McCaskill, who doesn’t hold a candle to Hillary, are the worst of the lot. Short in accomplishments, long on stridency, I bet she will not win re-election in Missouri (I lived in St Louis for 10 years). Remember her denigrating remarks about Bill Clinton and her daughter? She bet the wrong horse and she will pay for it.
3. Obama will say anyting and do anything to get elected. No better than a used car salesman except he is a dirty politician from Chicago. He has lied and flipflopped on just about everything. My opinion of him gets worse by the day, if that is at all possible.
Nobama
Go PUMA
Go Hillary
I read today that McCaskill accepted half a million dollars from Emily’s List. Is that correct? If so, it is an outrage. Taking money donated by women to help women, then supporting Obama.
yes.
what I think this is about is
trying to spray perfume on a heaping pile of sh&*!
McCaskill was helped to her election by DFA. She was a progressive, yet the entire time the rampant misogyny flowed out of the MSM, not a peep out of this obamazoid
too little, too late. Sorry that Boxer would even associate her name with these scumbags
supporting Hillary Clinton (I guess because she is a woman?) SEXIST COMMENT. FOAD. The Huff Po is that way. ————–>
First of all, that is a public service announcement that Susan pulled off my blog. I post “action items of the day” from various members of the Just Say No Deal coalition.
Next, it is not an either or proposition. Clinton Democrats is not asking you to not support the Women’s Checklist for Change but rather to point out some of the hypocrisy in that video to the aforementioned Senators. And I added the bit about Senator Boxer, who is a personal friend, and her claims that Obama will lead us to energy independence when he voted for the Bush Cheney Policy. She is well aware of my thoughts on the subject. One reason that I have worked with Senator Boxer and Cantwell is because we agree on the urgent need to develop a sound energy policy. Will I stop working with them? Of course not. But I will also point hypocrisy when they are spouting off meaningless talking points that have little basis in reality.
Mr. Lemos, did you know that Hillary Clinton campaigned for Barbara Boxer? Yes, back when she was First Lady. I believe she also campaigned for Patty Murray and many other women (and men).
Why did Barbara Boxer sit silent during the primary, and not support Hillary. OUTRAGEOUS!
Claire McCaskill took $500,000 from Emily’s List, and never felt one whiff of obligation to help another woman running for office. Her daughter suggested she back Obama, so she did. So much for HER judgement.
Sen. Klobuchar accepted roughly $300,000 from Emily’s List. Why didn’t she endorse Hillary?
Today, on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Joe asked Boxer, McCaskill & Stabanow if they thought Hillary had been treated differently (as in gender bias/misogyny/sexism), and they ALL sidestepped the issue. My God! And now they want us to just fall in line?
When even the women “don’t get it,” there’s not much hope out here.
WOMEN, UNITE TO MAKE A POINT: V O T E Mc C A I N !!!
William,
There is no immediate benefit here. It will take years to get these laws written presented debated and maybe passed, then vetoed and then resubmitted.
What these senators are doing is beneath contempt.
Trying to tell women they will work for them with their ten points, when they can’t deliver in the short term on any of them.
These senators will make noises about doing this and then quietly shelve their plans when our attention is diverted by the media as it focuses on other things, like the election.
If you saw his website your Brain would Really hurt. Full of spin and old lies, flagrant and known, but that doesn’t stop him. Then there’s the new Global Pitch – actually says you don’t have to be an American to have a vote in this election – and found elsewhere they are actually seeking out translators to hire. Finally, and worst, there is KIDS FOR OBAMA all marketing really pretty and only open to children UNDER 12. Pitch is to have an PARTY and obama camp will provide all the obama logo gear, etc. Intro SAYS this (no joke):
Studies have proven children can influence the votes of their parents and older siblings!
So, save your head and don’t go there. Anything of real interest is constantly being scrubbed anyway.
These ladies drank the kool-aid LONG ago guys. This isn’t anything new.
I agree 110% Cindie. Everytime I saw McCaskill on TV she was always praising Obama and asking for Hillary to drop out and make way for the king. If they wanted all this change for women why didn’t they stand behind the woman that could have given it to them. That would be the day I would let my daughter tell me which way to vote. She is an empty head and I hope she pays for it in the next election.
Harp — sure suddenly they noticed that their actions in stopping this nomination and inserting this fraud might have upset millions of women. Well they told the base that we are no longer needed — so screw them. The Democratic Party talks the talk but what they did to Hillary and to the millions of us who support her was to show us that they are a bunch of frauds–just like their nominee. First they beat up on us and now they want us back — sounds like an abusive husband.
Obama isn’t going to get anywhere by sending his bug eyed bitch wife out there to soften us up — nor will the heretofore silent Democratic Women Senators. How stupid they think we all are.
em link for Debbie Stabenow is http://stabenow.senate.gov/email.cfm
sent one to each of those delusional whores. this really makes me ANGRY.
this is the ultimate fyou to Hillary supporters.
Please call them misguided or whatever but not w-.
Thanks,
Charles
Men are whores, too. It’s an equal opportunity job. (Just kidding.)
Actually, Hope you are quite accurate. Prostitution is an equal pay proposition for those, male and female, who perform the services.
this makes ALL women look bad. I take it VERY personally. we are supposed to be the morally stronger sex.
they are making us look stupid & weak, just the way Obamba likes us. this kind of pandering & manipulation is exactly what we are fighting.
it is especially racist too, considering that these are all white women. you men don’t understand how we loath this.
Couldn’t even stomach watching that video through. I am certainly writing to them.
Got a better name for them – STEPFORD SENATORS!
Debbie Stabenow is a lovely woman supportive of legislation to help children. I don’t think she is political in the sense McCaskill or the others are.
Absolutely.
Nothing but cheap, meaningless pandering.
****CAN WE HAVE A POST DEDICATED TO THE COMMENT LEFT BY A HATEFUL OBAMA SUPPORTER, in which it threatened personal damage to a person’s character?***
WE NEED TO EXPOSE THIS, float it to the top, and hold the obamination team accountable!!!
It was sent to Dean by me, to Obama by others.
I pointed out that this is the result of Obama’s communication strategy to “combat rumors.”
I presume Dean will be horrified.
Don`t count on it I’m afraid.
Heck, he (Dean) might’ve written it.
Ann,
I missed it, I am assuming there was a post even more ugly than the average Obama groupie comment. When was it written?
It’s gone Hope. It was stalking, pure and simple.
Names, addresses, and threats to the rest of us.
*blech*
Does this mean will will need to go to a re-education camp if Obama is elected POTUS?
The alarm bells are ringing… you can not question the one. I even view the “stop the smears” campaign as a pre-censorship move.
where is it, I read it is here and want to copy it and send it to my SDs so they can see the HOPE and CHANGE they helped make possible?
i am riled and ret to go!!!
Can someone point out where this is?
I’ve gotten hate mail and even a I need to be crucified email. It’s nothing new. It shows who they really are. They are thugs out to silence critics.
Charles
Voting for McCain over the Democrat is an angry vote. It goes against Hillary’s wishes. And you’re deluding yourselves if you think McCain is a moderate who cares about your issues. He won’t end the War, he’ll do nothing on healthcare, tax cuts for the rich etc. If Barack is President, he can have Hillary write his health care bill. She would be forever famous and have her name on the first national health care bill ever passed. And I think she wants that. She’s not going to run again. Even Taylor Marsh nows supports Barack.
F*ck you.
votign for obama goes against my principles!
Race baiting as an election tool?
F*ck obama.
“south carolina”
“MLK & LBJ”
“Fairy tale”
“unfortunate”
“leaked racial memos”
Copy and paste somewhere else, fool.
Check out my copy and paste below. McCain really is bad for women, bad for kids, bad for men, bad for America, whether or not you are stuck in the “anger” stage of grieving. My favorite candidate almost never wins the nomination, but I’m not so dumb as to then go support the way worse Repug.
Voting for nobama with his pack of lies and his terrorist ties is not going to be good for anyone either.
Terrorist ties? You buy this nonsense? Obama and Ayers (the ex-Weatherman guy) were board members of the same anti-poverty group. Ayers is a professor in Chicago. This is a “terrorist tie”? Or did you have in mind the time Obama sucked bin Laden off in a limo, video of which Larry will shortly be posting, honest?
Anti-poverty group? They took kickbacks from shady developers recommended by the Rose Davis law firm. Ayers and Dohrn threw a dinner party for Rashid Khalidi where Obama helped them raise $70,000 for the PLO. Ayers wouldn’t have his respectable teaching job if his father was not a Northwestern University trustee and head of Commonwealth Electric, making him a wealthy and influential man. He obtained an attorney who could get terrorist Bill Ayers off due to a bungling of federal wire-tapping and warrants. Ayers said on September 11, 2001 in a NY Times interview he wished he’d bombed more buildings.
Auntie,
Their relationship goes way beyond that. Are you at all offended that Obama lied about that , too?
Damn Aunty you are one STPUID OBAMABOT! Do you NOT know who Bill Ayers is? If not…SHUT THE FU** UP TROLL!
Awwww, sweetie…..take the psychobabble someplace else.
We’re no longer grieving.
We just know what we know, and we know Obama is wrong for the country, tan or not.
It’s just not going to be his year.
Success comes in cans, failure in can’ts.
I just wrote a rebuttal that is better than your copy job, Auntie Tame.
McCain has described himself as personally pro-choice, Obama has described himself as personally pro-life.
Who’s more likely to sell women out? Obama
All Africans are pro-life.
Obamatons are willfully ignorant and naive.
If you think this guy’s pro-choice you are beyond hope.
Yeah, how naive, just to go by their actual, verifiable records, as opposed to just making shit up.
You do know that McCain is soft on domestic terrorism? That in 1993 he voted against a law to “to prohibit bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics, and shootings and threats of violence against doctors and nurses who perform abortions”?
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/john-mccains-do.html
And yet, his state keeps electing him to the U.S. Senate. Someone must not think that he’s bad for America.
Your post just sounds like ageist hate speech to me. No hope and change there.
Yes, you are dumber. You are supporting GW Bush II only he has a D behind his name.
I’m going to vote for the candidate who voted AGAINST Dick Cheney’s Energy Bill, which gave away millions to the oil companies in subsidies and tax cuts.
I’ll let YOU figure out which candidate that was, Auntie Meme.
“Voting for McCain over the Democrat is an angry vote”
ANNNND, no sh*t, sherlock…what clued you in?
Voting for nobama goes against MY wishes. I am no one’s slave (at least yet!) and am not beholden to anything or anyone politically. I have made up my own mind on this…
Barak Hussein Obama is a danger to American democracy and I will do everything that is legal and lawful and within my power to stop him from becoming President of this country…and that includes my decision to NEVER vote for him…every.
There is simply NOTHING you can do to change my mind. It’s way to late for that. And I daresay that a good sized chunk of those 18 million people who voted for HIllary feel EXACTLY the same way.
So take your toys and go home obamabots…I’m not playing.
McCain over Obama is a rational vote. McCain is experience and trustworthy. Obama is inexperienced and erratic. One day he supports something, the
next he doesn’t. (For today, see “public financing.”)
I have deep respect for Hillary Clinton but she doesn’t control my vote. She and John McCain have worked well together in the past, and likely will in the future. Both Clinton and McCain understand the value of bipartisanship for the greater good.
Obama couldn’t be bothered to show up (busy golfing!) when she suspended (not ended) her campaign and said nice things about him. He has shown no interest in working with anyone other than his supporters. (One could say he has shown no interest in working, period.)
Count me as another Hillary or McCain 2008 voter
Ditto for me. The flip-flopping is because he was completely disingenuous in the primary.
Now, he has to adjust…..racing to the center.
But what happens when he needs to adjust again?
I want someone who has a mature political nature, is seasoned, knows how to handle the ups and downs of public opinion, and puts the country first, not his own new political skin.
Even Bush…..the evil Bush……has been advising Hillary, Obama, McCain about the situation in Iraq and elsewhere. Why? Because he knows he has an obligation to do so.
I knew part of the build-up was in anticipation of losing the White House. That way, the Democrat (who is looking more unlikely) can withdraw troops without really withdrawing troops.
I figured that one out, and I’m a dummie when it comes to military stuff.
Now, McCain can please the public by doing just the same.
And he will……he’s no dummie.
We like McCainicare better than Obama’s health plan which will create a bureaucratic nightmare, line the pockets of his Insurance and Pharmaceutical friends and actually prevent true UHC from being implemented for nearly a decade.
We trust McCain to responsibly end the war and safely bring our troops home more than Obama who apparently has no idea how our military works, is misinformed on foreign policy and who’s positions are shifting daily.
We trust McCain’s open-minded economic proposals more than Obama’s latest backflip on NAFTA and his advisers who are all Chicago School neoconservatives like Jason Furman and Austin Goolsbee.
McCain has called for lifting the 27-year moratorium on domestic drilling and has a stronger energy and environmental record than Obama. Obama voted YES for the 2005 Energy Bill written by Dick Cheney and many energy lobbyists like Exelon. This gave $27 billion to oil companies while Americans are paying $4 a gal for gas. Obama opposed the gas tax holiday while he voted for it two years ago in the state legislature.
Obama claims to support women’s rights, but he fixed an election with Democratic party bosses like he did in Chicago when he forced a popular incumbent and woman off the ballot to run uncontested. He has more present votes than any other member of the body politic, and five of those present votes were about abortion. He voted in favor of early release from prison for sex offenders, and he was the LONE vote.
McCain supports strict constructionist SCOTUS justices which does not necessarily mean RvW would be threatened. It will take two appointments over the next four years to overturn the original ruling. If Bush couldn’t do it in 2004, McCain is even less likely to.
Women should vote against sexism and in favor of social, economic and political equality of the sexes. Anyone with a corporate background will see through the Democratic party promoting a younger, less qualified male over a woman who could do the job better. Use your angry vote to make your voice heard and Vote John McCain.
Whoever wrote that did a really good job.
But I thought you only get McCain points if you post on pro-Obama blogs.
I wrote it myself, thank you.
No, you get them for posting on all of the political blogs. We might get points, but at least we don’t get paid (or should I say bribed).
You sure you didn’t cut and paste this from NRO, Floatster? Sounds like GOP talking points straight down the line.
They are GOP talking points. That is why I will be voting Republican this year. They have a superior platform now that Clinton is off the ticket.
I total agree and so do a lot of other people..on to Nov.
Hope Floats,
Reading your post above gives me hope. I am glad to see people are really looking and finding out the facts and making there own decisions. That is what America is all about, the freedom to do so. It is a wonderful post, Thank you.
Since the only Mandates Obama wants in his ununiversal healthcare is children, WHO exactly is going to pay for the many of childrens insurance, specially in 1 parent families? I hope they have better luck with that then thye do getting alot of dead bead dads/Moms to pay for child support. Are they going to do DNA testing on kids to see who is their father to make sure the right person has to pay?
i have worked for private health insurers for 20 years, and I say with no hesitation that Uhhabamas half axxed half mandate will INCREASE PREMIUMS, the insurance companies will have us right where they want us
we will be FORCED to pay for the kids but only the kids
the kids by and large (God Bless) dont have chronic illness, so it costs the insurers little to nothing to cover them after age 2 and immunizations, (since states mandate immunizations be covered they cant save money there), but OLDER people cost them big bucks,
SO, Uhhbama has made a deal (with Boren) no doubt to get kids mandated so we HAVE To pay WHATEVER RATES they charge,
they will lift them sky high…but no preex help for the rest of us and no lower premiums since we arent in a risk pool.
its worse than doing nothing IMHO
I support McCain’s 5k tax credit for ins over Uhhbamas half axxed expensive mandate that will cost us MORE…..
AND McCain will lift the state barriers so that we can buy health insurance over state lines which will FORCE insurers to be competitive with each other on rates, that WILL reduce premiums
this is my NUMBER ONE ISSUE and after careful analysis I choose McCain plan over Uhhbama plan any day and twice on Sunday (the day uhbama sat and listened to hate pour from the pulpit in Trinity for 20 years)…
LMAO
get a grip Uhhbama fan
we are NOT pulling that lever ever for Uhhbama
nope
not gonna happen
we are taking our issues to McCain and giving him our money, our votes, our feet on the street, our hands to dial and send out mailers, our voices which Uhhbama stomped out and drowned out with OBOTS to call for McCain
all that energy is going to the “old man”, the one we respect and trust, yep
and to unseating the frakkers who betrayed us by going Uhhbama too
LMAO !!!
I am still snickering, He must be new to the job:)
Too funny.
Another Democrat for McCain!!!
Put it back in your pants, fool. No one wants to watch.
I will not aid any party that strikes against its own..especially for someone as incompetent as that racist fraud
hillary or then mccain…
if you are so certain of that fraud’s chances.. WHY ARE YOU HERE???
even one of my relatives, who voted for that racist fraud, does not trust him anymore… and is looking at mccain..
your entitled to your opinion, but it is just that. You can spare me your attitude. you think the vote is about anger? Think again.
My vote for McCain is principled, not angry. I feel safer with McCain. Unlike Obama, McCain loves his country more than he loves himself. He understands government and hard work. He is a war hero who will stand up for his record (unlike Kerry). I know where McCain is coming from, so he is predictable in terms of how we will need to exercise control over him with a democratic congress.
But you’re not interested in this, you are just a “drive by troll”. Obama will never have my vote or money, and the DNC has been taken over by this scoundrel, the Manchurian candidate–but for whom?
There are a long list of possibilities here.
This is the funniest post ever !!!!
I spit my drink out and coughed and laughed. I am still laughing and crying. We all need a laugh once in awhile and I would like to thank you for that one.
Another Democrat for McCain !!
daniel — It is my vote and I will not give it to a fraud like Obama. McCain has been around long enough for me to know what he will and won’t do. Obama will say anything and do anything to win — and then shaft us all. I don’t care if Taylor Marsh or Hillary tells me to vote for Obama. NO WAY
I rather to vote angrily, than not voting at all.
A vote for McCain is the same as two votes against Obama. My goal to see Obama defeated. And therefore I must maximize my vote. Hillary…or McCain. It is simple. I like McCain better than “Precious Little”. So I have no choice but to vote for McCain.
you worthless piece of crap self hating white boy-man.
you bring your diarreaha here every day.
HUSSEIN0 is wasting his campaign money on you.
whatever you get paid for sucking him off is more than you’re worth.
Daniel, you Obama troll, you’re not fooling anybody.
I’ve read your posts elsewhere, endlessly. Why don’t you go get a life?
Shut down your computer and go out and do something positive for somebody. You’re never going to get anywhere hanging around pro-Hillary sites trying to make points.
GO POUND SAND!
And you’re deluding yourselves if you think McCain is a moderate who cares about your issues. He won’t end the War, he’ll do nothing on healthcare, tax cuts for the rich etc.
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So, now, Daniel is a mind reader. He just KNOWS that McCain could care less about our issues. He just KNOWS McCain won’t end the war (he has two sons in the Military/one in Iraq – so why should he worry about ending the war, huh???) He just KNOWS that McCain will do nothing about healthcare or tax cuts for the rich. BUT, Daniel DOES KNOW that Obama WILL do everything he has promised to do! It’s amazing how he knows that!!!
I think Daniel doesn’t like rich or fairly well-to-do people and wants to tax them to death; I don’t think Daniel believes in capitalism, but believes in socialism or Marxism – I think Daniel believes in redistribution of wealth; methinks Daniel would love for the government to give him and his like-minded citizens who support Obama ‘freebies’ at the expense of middle-class/wealthy tax payers. It’s all about class warfare, isn’t it Daniel?
Shut your scripted, bought-and-paid-for a– up.
“Voting for McCain over the Democrat is an angry vote.”
Then call me angry as HELL – because I’m sure as hell NOT voting for Barack Obama in November.
NO, the vote for McCain is not an angry vote. It is a sensible one. It is far better to have a man who has experience than a man who has none … Obama.
The war will not end for years. McCain is correct, because he is looking at the whole situation from logistics and experience and a real sympathy for the soldiers in Iraq. McCain knows that after we leave Iraq, we will have to go to Afghanistan. He also knows that we will have leave in a responsible fashion.
Plans for Universal Healthcare have been submitted in one form or another and been voted down by both sides of the aisle. We have managed to get Medicare and Medicaid, but nothing more because it doesn’t sit well with the AMA, pharmaceutical companies and insurance barons.
You’re being silly to even suggest that Obama would ask Hillary to write the health plan. He has his own less fair and more punative one.
Call me cynical but these female legislators are Democrats first, women second. They have willingly subjugated the needs of the sisterhood for the wants of their political party. And Claire McCaskill – she will never support HRC even if she won the most number of delegates. She’s one jealous __ (rhymes with “hitch”).
B.O.W.L. Big Time in November (2008)
Barack Obama Will Lose
Do you think it benefits “the needs of the sisterhood” to call another woman “one jealous __ (rhymes with “hitch”).”
You just scored a 10 out of 10 on the hypocrisy meter, congratulations, you win a prize!
Explain to me again how they’re proposal hurts women?
First, because they’re lies: it’s not like we haven’t been promised all these things before. They’ve been promising them all my life and have yet to put out. DNC showed its true colors in 2004 when they took the ERA out of the platform.
Second, because electing someone who doesn’t think you have a right to vote is plain suicidal for all your other rights too.
Duh.
you idiot. you don’t even qualify to comment here because you are male. you will never understand.
Thanks, thats very helpful. So how is it that Charles is qualified to write a post about it?
And drkate, thats actually rather sexist of you to attempt to exclude me from commenting on an issue simply based on my gender.
He didn’t attempt to exclude you. He was questioning your qualifications. Please, ramble on to your hearts content.
Radical feminists like Ti Grace Atkinson would say YES. Denounce the traitors and point out unhelpful attitudes. Many of these politicians actually denied sexism played a part in the attacks against Hillary.
Wanna know what I think of Michelle Obama who said, “If she can’t keep her own house in order, she’s not fit to run the White House”? BITCH.
No, I wouldn’t call McCaskill a bitch. Bitches get things done and little ole Claire just doesn’t make the grade.
Now, I would call her one jealous a**hole, who has one of the brownest noses around.
if they had gotten fired up and ready to go as they are now BEFORE the Lily Ledbetter Equal Pay Act vote maybe I would give a damn…nary a word form them and NOW weeks later they`are all up in arms for womens issues?
get real
we arent stupid
stop trotting out your “women” to try to win us over
millions of us are women and millions of us arent..we dont think with our frakkin uterus nitwits!!!!!!!
Thank you.
These idiot Obamabots want to act as though woman traitors don’t exist. And like Hillary supporters aren’t on to these phony female Obamabots in Congress.
GTFOH!!
We can say it without hypocracy, because we are women. We know what women are capable of and what their motives for doing things are, far better than you ever will.
BECAUSE IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. IT’S JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS AND NO SUBSTANCE.
“Explain to me again how they’re proposal hurts women?”
Because it’s a PROPOSAL – nothing more!
Just empty, lying words coming from Obama supporters and elected Obama Democrats who are just now realizing that they’re neck-deep in s— and are about to go under.
DORA — It all depends on whose Ox is being gored. They now see that perhaps millions of women are serious in their assertions that they will not vote for Obama — therefore, they shmooze women. The party said the base is not wanted — so they should leave us alone. But I guess our votes are wanted cause they can’t win without us.
NBC is such a joke. Todays news: Menopausal cheerleaders for the sexist presumptive Democratic nominee now promise this time they really mean it when they say they care about women (voters.) There will be a Koolaid reception and Q and A session after the jump.
Who’s sexist again?
“…I’ve got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
Haven’t you ever heard of the Pill?
That was quote by Obama
apparently Uhhbama hasnt :0)
he must’ve missed the morning after pill memo also
it was Hillary who got that jackaxx out of the FDA to make that available and those LOZERS at Naral kissed Uhhbama who would be king’s ring instead
they all make me ill
PS Is Clare demonstrating the amount of honesty in her bones with that little fingers, one inch, or whatever she is doing- gesture on the freezeframe there??
and of course she went on MisogynyNBC to talk about womens issues
BWAAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!
sexism –noun
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person’s sex, as in restricted job opportunities; esp., such discrimination directed against women.
When the men who dominate the Democratic party came out and repeatedly demanded Hillary Clinton was to “sit down and shut up” these women remained silent.
When the media savaged Hillary Clinton and made rude misogynist remarks, where were these women?
When the Clintons were accused of racism, some of these women politicians even had something to say on the matter. Did they comment on sexism?
A resounding NO all the way around, and then they come forward, trading on their gender to earn them ill-deserved credibility on what is just shameless pandering to disenfranchised women voters. They’re exploiting women – which makes them cheerleaders for sexism. They’re all old enough to know better.
Beautifully said Hope! These women speak out on women’s issues now? Pandering is bad enough, but pandering after the fact is downright dumb. But then they always think voters are too dumb to see through their b.s.
“A resounding NO all the way around, and then they come forward, trading on their gender to earn them ill-deserved credibility on what is just shameless pandering to disenfranchised women voters. They’re exploiting women – which makes them cheerleaders for sexism. They’re all old enough to know better.”
Yep. Those female Obama senators are nothing but gender pimps – trying to sucker millions of women Hillary supporters into voting for that sexist scumbag in November.
hope — menapausal cheerleaders — love it.
Some reality-based stuff about how bad McCain’s policies are for women — according to Republican women — via Kos:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/19/8656/85385/721/538283
(or click my handle for link – having trouble making it clickable here)
Doesn’t matter…McCain isn’t obama…that’s the point.
NOBAMA!
That’s right. Slogans trump reasoning! WHYASKWHY??
You mean like this:
“I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community.”
Oh, was there reasoning in your post? Let’s pick it apart…
Jillian Manus-Salzman has an opinion. That’s all it is whether she is Republican or Buddhist.
Susan Eisenhower endorsed Obama. Another opinion.
Harriet Stinson… wait for it… has an opinion.
Women’s issues are personal and highly subjective. That’s why we call your New Democratic Party the Lemmingcrats. Because you would jump off a cliff, if you were told to.
And aside from that,
IF YOUR CANDIDATE WILL WILLINGLY INJECT RACE, and DIVIDE THE PARTY/COUNTRY BY RACE,
what makes you think he gives a crap about women?!?!?
STupid.
The premise of your question is a complete myth. Obama hasn’t divided the country by race, despite some crazy shit his pastor said. There’s no evidence in the reality-based world that most people see Obama as a divisive, race-card playing guy.
You lie, or you’re stupid.
1)Media reported Bill Clinton’s comment “fairy tale” and applied to barakula’s campaign, when he was referring to barakula’s stance on the war.
That was picked up BY OBAMA and when Obama was questioned on it, he called it “unfortunate” and it was included as a “racially divisive comment” on Obama’s “leaked memo.”
RACE RACE RACE RACE, you f*cking idiot.
2)LBJ and MLK…historians and any thinking person would agree that MLK could be as perfect as pie, but to get changes standardized and implemented it must be signed into law by the President…
it was included on Obama’s “leaked memo of racially sensitive comments”
RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE
3)The press picked up Bill Clinton’s remark which was a HISTORICAL QUESTION POSED TO HIM in an INTERVIEW…that compared Jesse Jackson and SC to Obama in SC…
Once again, Obama called it “unfortunate” intimating RACIAL INTENT, even though:
“If Obama didn’t want to be compared to Jesse Jackson, maybe he shouldn’t have put R&B in his SC advertisements, shouldn’t have sent black-only emissaries to the Black SC community, and should have put Wright, who was doing the rounds, on pause. The message in South Carolina put out by Obama’s campaign, whether the media wanted to ignore it or not, was “Vote for me I am Black.” To then come back and smash Bill Clinton for mentioning Jesse Jackson, that’s audacity; Axelrod made this clear through his surrogates, while he had Obama say that what the Clintons said was “unfortunate.”
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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html
New York State Senator Bill Perkins used quite explicit racial stereotyping in a speech aimed at discouraging his constituents from voting for Clinton by saying, Harlem “is not Bill Clinton’s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation.”
GO F*CK YOUR RACEBAITING APOLOGIST SELF
“Hardworking American… white Americans”
guess that rules out Hillary too? Or maybe only Hillary has gaffes, and gets tarred unfairly with dumb things her supporters say, and mountains made form molehills.
Yeah, anger is better. Vote anger in ‘08!
Yeah, just sit back and listen to our leaders words of widom:
“I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though.”
Nice out of context quote. You know hes essentially talking about how stupid he was as a teenager?
Wrong…. That was out of his own book… God you people are tiresome.
I know its out of his book. I said he was talking about himself as a teenager, I didn’t realize I needed to say:
“You know IN THAT PART OF HIS BOOK he’s essentially talking about how stupid he was as a teenager?”
One of those “this was my perspective on the world at the time” things I look back on and realize now as a grown up was a stupid attitude.
You make it sound like he said it yesterday.
Yes but his Cocaine use is an issue, even if he regrets it. Cocaine can cause “irreversible brain damage” leading to a person having difficulties remembering “remembering people, places and things”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_3503000/3503931.stm
This may well explain his father’s “flag-draped coffin,” his uncle in Auschwitz, 57 states, Sioux City South Dakota, etc.
LOL – ulahane, that has to be the dumbest post yet in this thread.
What’s Hillary’s excuse for her screwups, then? Massive PCP use?
I’m sure they appreciated the pat on the back, instead of being called working class rubes or bitter hicks, they were identified as Americans who live in rural areas, work straight out of high school or join the military, and are very freaked out by and offended by Obama. And they have every right to. He started this campaign over a year ago knowing many Americans would have a hard time accepting him, and yet he has packaged himself as an enigma or a blank slate upon which everyone can project their hopes and dreams. That strategy backfired when Americans heard Obama’s children were baptised by a man who said the AIDS virus was invented by white devils to carry out genocide against blacks.
Thank you.
Obama has made his own bed, and now he must lie in it.
It won’t just be women who run from him in November.
It’ll be men, too.
I have family in Missouri. They and many friends are DETERMINED to see that Claire McCaskill is not re-elected.
Choices have consequences, eh?
She was quoting a report from the Associated Press. So, now it is racist to quote from the Media?
Barack Obama deliberately race baited to get AAs from backing Clinton and to consolidate his “libral” white guilt vote. It is despicable that Obama used this against a fellow Democrat and particularly, against the Clintons, who have worked all of their adult lives on Civil Rights.
That is exactly when I decided I would never vote for Obama. Now, because of the RBC theft, I am voting and working for McCain and working against any Democrat that supported Obama.
Do you mean the reality based world of Obamabots, Auntie?
LOL*…….that’s why you need to go back to HuffPo.
Nobody here is that stupid. We know exactly when and how he played the race card, irresponsibly dividing people and risking long-term deleterious effects on the nation to win the election.
That is not a man who loves America.
We can’t possibly vote for Obama. He showed no tears after Katrina.
LOL
LOL. I love that one. If Jesse Jackson said it, it has to be true!
well I hope they get a LOT of sudden Dems in GOP clothing, cause we have LOT of Dems going Indy and GOP and some like me staying Dem and voting GOP so they can see me in the POLLS as a Dem who wouldnt tow the party line
yep
CONSERVATIVE APPOINTEES OF SCOTUS FIRST DECIDED ROE V WADE
YEP YEP YEP
don’t forget there is a democratic congress that if it does its work will override McCain on these issues. After all, these democratic women said they cared about women’s issues, huh?
No this is obambi’s line. get his surrogates out there to, uh, talk about women’s issues, uh, so he doesn’t have to…i mean, uh, so it shows he is on womens’ side and “understands”.
scripted down to the last line and the predictable obamabot responses to lecture women on being women. yawn.
The democratic congress does not do it’s job now, maybe they should look for new occupations.
Obama does not care about womens’ rights. Obama only cares about himself.
BTW, did anyone catch the overused excuse- this is not consistent with Obama’s message of Hope and Change and Unity- being used again to explain why Muslim men were asked to sit behind Obamabi for a photo op, but the women in their head scarves were not allowed.
Points to two things,
Along with Obama’s brother, the average Muslim in America must not have gotten the ‘I have never been a Muslim’ memo from Obama.
And, he shows the same direspect for women as do many Arabic nations…. unless you consider slapping your wife’s a*s in front of America respectful.
Thanks for cutting and pasting from The Orange Sewer. They made it clear that Clinton supporters were not welcome there months ago, but their hateful regulars have decided it is time to poach on other sites when it turns out Obama is about to have his arrogant ass handed to him in the general election.
Kos is hardly the Gospel when it comes to politics. Quote a source that isn’t biased, please.
Kos was quoting the SF Chronicle, which was quoting female Republican leaders:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/18/MNS211BBRL.DTL
Now I guess you’ll argue that they’re biased too, because they don’t hate on Hillary enough to support someone like McCain who is utterly opposed to all she stands for.
Republican leaders don’t hate Hillary?
Good grief. You must live in a cave.
Whoops, meant to say “love”. (Brain damage from all the blow I did while GWB was blowing me in a limo. Larry will have the video by next Monday at 9 AM.)
Anyway, show your devotion for Hillary by voting for all she’s ever stood against. Makes sense, right?
Don’t remind us about San Francisco’s conservative bias! (sarcasm.)
Auntie–if Obama wasn’t in big trouble you would not feel it necessary to come here and feed us propaganda.
No, I’m just amusing myself by injecting a note of reality (i.e., how some prominent female GOP leaders are saying McCain is awful), and watching you freak out with spin and denial. You’ll have lots of hardcore Bush supporters joining you in that act. Have a ball.
Not really.
I , for one, am a lifelong loyal Democrat.
I am going to vote for the candidate who did NOT vote for the Dick Cheney Energy Bill giving huge subsidies and tax cuts to the big oil companies.
You know, the candidate who couldn’t be bought by special interests in return for campaign contributions.
Quite rational, quite factual. Calm, even-keeled, unemotional.
Can you name which candidate that is?
So that’s your only issue, Mary? That vote? How about torture, domestic spying, energy, education, and the environment? McCain rocks your world on those?
We’re still waiting for the reality. Still waiting. Nope, no reality from Obama supporters. You can go now.
oh yes Daily Orange Satan is our go to source for the truth of ANYTHING this primary
I love how so called true blue Dems are following recent GP converts and calling lifelong Dems traitors
I think the GOP is going to see a new vitality to its party, a brand new segment of voters and their contributions in its coffers and lots of support up and down the ticket…yep!!!
BOOYAH!!!
I am related to Adlai Stevenson, former governor of Illinois, a presidential candidate, and Ambassador to the UN. I have been a Democrat for decades. I have also followed politics avidly since I was 10 years old, when Adlai ran in 1952 for President against Susan’s grandfather.
I cannot vote for Obama and will be changing my political affiliation for the year 2008, to make sure that we get someone who has experience, McCain.
Did you see Michel Obama, post anger manegment, on the
View yesterday? Whoever is treating her is doing a great job.
I wonder what kind of drugs they gave her as part of her “makeover”…
the Stepford Wives redux.
Prozac
cofer — she still would frighten Jack the Ripper.
Apparently she now wants to be more like Laura Bush.
I found that quite amusing!
Clare McCaskill won’t do it. She’s more worried about what her kids will think.
Gee, I don’t feel soothed. LOL* (Imagine that!)
It’s a smart move, however, to arrange this trio.
For me? They are begging the point every single time they equate the supposed racism Barack endured with the smearing of Hillary.
Right then, I tune out.
They still aren’t listening.
People are listening, but they’re only going to meet you halfway when you’re so far out on a limb with anger and denial. Calm down a little and you’ll start to feel a little more soothed, and like the vast majority of Dems your vote will be based on reason and not spite.
I don’t care about meeting you halfway. The assumptions Dean and now this trio are taking are nothing more than PR smoke being blow up the butts of voters.
They are still ignoring the obvious. Everyone in the country knows that she was smeared from Day 1 and it never let up.
To even suggest that he received the same type of treatment is an absolute insult to the intelligence of every American who watched this unfold.
And, therefore, the Democrats are the ones going on TV insulting us now, even now.
Get it?
Either admit it. Admit that you stood by and let it happen?
Admit it on HuffPo. Admit it in the so-called progessive wings. Admit it within the Democratic leadership.
Or just take your PR BS elsewhere.
It’s not flying.
Right — Hillary was slimed, Kerry was slimed, Gore was slimed, but they all ran SPECTACULAR campaigns with no mistakes at all.
By comparison, Obama was never slimed; ask Sean Hannity.
Double-standards abound…
Bite it……..not even remotely close to comparable.
So Hillary didn’t make any mistakes — she was just robbed by the media and the inadequate black guy? Seems like most people in her campaign disagree (hating on Mark Penn, etc.).
Half of the Dem party aren’t morons. We happened to have two very strong, history-making candidates. One was going to lose, and if Obama had lost, there would have been the same type of bitching from some of his supporters.
bite it again, troll.
Hillary, of course, made mistakes.
But that’s not the topic.
Hillary’s mistakes kind of are on topic… if you believe that those mistakes (which included not staking out the “change” message before Obama did) maybe had anything to do with her losing.
She hasn’t lost, and he hasn’t won officially. Did you see Bear Stearns execs in handcuffs today. Hope and Change.
Uh, right… she hasn’t lost.
That’s why you guys are all worked up over her…. not losing?
Reality is so pesky.
I would have been ashamed to support the “Change” candidate.
No, she made no mistake. Which is why she won the popular vote.
Except she really didn’t, unless you classify it in a very limited way.
No mistakes? Really? At all.
Had she simply admitted her vote for the Iraq war was a mistake, she would have won.
Her inability to admit mistakes is one of the negatives people have with her.
Look , William. Hillary is OLD news.
The choices now are Obama or McCain.
And you can’t win in November based on hating Hillary.
So get over it. Move on.
Yes, Hillary made a HUGE mistake. She didn’t court and beg the CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE to help her get elected.
CHICAGO owns Obama.
“One was going to lose, and if Obama had lost, there would have been the same type of bitching from some of his supporters.”
If the same outright and blatant stealing of the nomination had happened to Obama instead of Hillary on May 31st, the repurcussions from you Obamabots would have been FAR worse.
The Obamabots have already proven that you have virtually NO dignity, NO conscience, NO class and NO tact – even though Obama’s been handed the nomination on a silver platter!
See, if Obama and his minions hadn’t lied, cheated and stole for the nomination, there wouldn’t have been the coming huge backlash against him. Most Hillary supporters would have been deeply hurt had Obama won fair and square, but we would have healed and moved on.
Now – after learning about Obama’s true lousy and sexist character, his glaring lack of experience, his rotten connections and his horrible voting record in the Senate – most Hillary supporters are FAR more than justifiably angry. In fact, I am frankly impressed by our incredible restraint in light of all that has happened (and is happening) to Hillary and to us.
Those bastards won’t be able to shut down our voices and votes in November.
He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
annincalif — exactly — I resent The Democratic Party trashing Hillary Clinton and the 18 Million women who supported her by stopping the nomination process. Funny now that they have what they want — they realize they’re on a loser. They have no shame.
Oh, they think they can use the media again.
The problem is that they have hardened a good solid 30-40% against them. And we are the worker bees of the party, too. We’re the ones who show up and help candidates who aren’t sexy. We work the polls. We vote in the years when they’re lucky to get 25% turn-out.
They traded us for ……urban youth. LOL*
Let me tell you. I actually live in an urban area.
Those new Dems aren’t going to work for down-ticket Dems. They aren’t the “new” breed.
They haven’t been fired up on politics.
They voted for the tan guy. That’s it.
And, meanwhile……he shooed away 4 out of 10 registered Dems.
I can’t wait to watch him figure his way out of this mess.
Facebook isn’t going to cut it.
And neither will his money.
Let me remind the idiots……he outspent her 4 to 1 in PA and lost.
Hillary DID figure out how to beat him.
And so will everyone else.
Agree, Ann.
Hardened, permanently, 25-30% of the previous Democratic Party.
Those voters are already gone. All that’s left is to decide NOT to vote at all, or vote McCain.
And all these fake McCaskill videos…..especially on MSNBC, where the very worst of the Hillary hatred was provided…..only makes it worse.
What these 3 women risk, by appearing on MSNBC, is their OWN re-elections.
25-30% of 18 million voters is a LOT of losses. Enough to lose in November.
McCaskill’s waaaaay too late.
listen “sweetie” there you go, “calm down”
get a grip on yourself
it is with utter cold cool calm calculation that I pull the lever for McCain, give him money and help ruin the campaigns to oust the SDs who supported Uhhbama prior to June 4th
and with a big giant smile too!!!
gina — its a comfortable feeling after all these elections where I bought every loser the Democrats put in front of me. Pandering will not work this time–
Eat me. I’ll meet you halfway when H#ll freezes over and S@tan wears iceskates.
There’s that battered wife psychology again. “Calm down, and I won’t have to beat you, honey.” Are you that same guy who was on here about a month ago preaching that same stuff? Yeah, I thought the writing was familiar.
My vote is based on reasonable and justified anger. Where do you get off telling people to do anything or directing their feelings or promoting one choice over another as being based on “reason?” No one here or anywhere has seen ONE reason to vote for Obama, but Hope. That was Bill Clinton in 1992, and we know it’s just talk now.
Let’s hear from the only Democrat to win an election in 40 years. He was called a racist for questioning Obama’s war opposition. “Fairy tale” I could see as offensive to the LGBT community, but blacks?!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJRkw03woqc
hope – Obama played the race card against the two finest people who did more for AA’s then Obama could or would ever dream of doing. I will never forgive Obama for this. Especially when Bill and Hillary gave Obama start up money when he wanted to run for the Senate.
Now Obama is angry because people think he’s too black. Too late BO you marginalized yourself so don’t look for Hillary voters to help you out.
Right on, Hope & S. Hall…
Did you guys know that Hillary went out & campaigned for BO to help him get elected to the Senate? Yep. And in gratitude, the jerk runs over & tells her he’s going to oppose her for a run for the 2008 Pres. election– the minute he gets to the Senate!
What a snake! I wouldn’t trust him no how!
Vote John McCain (or anyone else but Obama)
Is this the same Obama who ignored phone calls and letters from his poor black constituents who had no heat in a Chicago winter?
Her vote for the Iraq war was not a mistake, since not everyone who voted for the initial legislation supported Bush attacking Iraq before UN inspectors withdrew. Remember? Bush lied. The only Republican in the Senate who opposed the war, Chuck Hagel, was a co-author of the bill. Bush went against what was put forward – there had to be a reason to go to war with Iraq. I’ll say it again. Bush lied. Why should Hillary apologize for President Bush? You people are insane. Obama’s opposition to the war was Monday morning quarterbacking. He made all kinds of butt- kissing statements and flip flopped all over the place since then.
The vote was NEVER for preemptive stikes and war. THE VOTE WAS FOR RE-ENTERING and searching for weapons of mass destrucion. It’s on You Tube.
She states clearly this is not a ticket to go to war.
Why everyone keeps saying H voted for the war is beyond me. It’s all documented that she sternly told Bush no war, just a weapons search.
See the You Tube of Hillary saying it to Bush.
Yes, I watched Michelle and she did say PATHETIC not empathetic…check it out on YOU TUBE…Michelle says Obama was pathetic when she first met him!!!
The crap about Repubs being bad for women is just a pile of it…NARAL endorsed Obama over Hillary….the man does not even have female reproductive organs…
Abortion will always be legal, even Americans that don’t like it, are willing to make them available to “someone else”(like their daughter when she turns up pregnant @ 16).
WHOA!!! Obama cares about women…he must need our vote after all.
ford — I have never seen Republicans attack Condi Rice the way Democrats have attacked Hillary Clinton. To me the party who I believed stood for Women’s Rights, Seniors, Workers, Gays and Hispanics just paid lip service to all these groups–it was all pandering. Once they saw the registration go up with younger voters, black voters and the creative class–they told us we could stay home because they could win without us. I guess they spoke too soon.
I’d hate to tell you how many people in the Government of both parties dislike Rice.
One more thing, Condi wasn’t running for President.
Condi, like Margaret Thatcher and countless other well-known female world leaders, has never run for elected office. It makes me grind my teeth when people hold them up as “real” women who got where they are without men. Each Indhira Gandhi, Segolene Royal and Golda Meir has their own unique story for how they got where they are. Margaret Thatcher was admitted to her party by a quota. Running for office is a tough and dirty political rite of passage for most women.
Yeah well I have news for everyone. He is still pathetic and according to his wife he stinks so bad he has to have his own room and he is lazy.
You know who wears the pants in obammy family. MO.
She treats him like he’s a little boy so he mimics that and treats others like they are little kids.
maybe she thinks that appeals to WOMEN, saying he was pathetic and she changed him???? I dont get it?
Gawd grow up MEchelle!!
I married the man I fell in love with not a man I wanted to change into someone else, thus we are still married :0)
Awesome post about obama supporter hypocrites, such as dkos..
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/the-obama-method-or-how-to-win-an-election-by-not-being-on-the-ballot/
HYPOCRITE LYING SACKS OF SH*T
This is an excellent post, complete with the necessary information to to take action against another example of sexism and hypocrisy within the Democratic Party leadership.
It’s time they answer for their actions and are held accountable for belittling the American public by insulting our collective intelligence.
And Daniel,
There is nothing you can say that will ever change the minds of those who have researched your candidate. There is no excuse or justification for the manner in which has and does conduct himself. He attracts the most vile and venemous of friends, clergymen, business associates,political allies , mentors, advisors and followers.
Birds of a feather…includes you.
Hey all,
I need information about the Iowa Caucuses, stories about Obama, and bussing, etc. are needed. Please send any info possible.
Thnx
hi!!!!
there are caucus shenanigan websites I believe
anyone have them handy???
I wish I’d filed it away. I have seen them here. Be diligent.
Just say NO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz8AuAAyRY8
This is a continuation of the big FU from Bambie to Hill that started with the hiring of Hill’s ex-staffer , Patti, for a non picked VP.
It is so sad to see her fellow women senators run to help. It makes me ill to see them sell her out like this. One thinks there is nothing the Dems can do to further debase themselves, then they prove you wrong.
They had a special kool-aid party just for the women senators.
I’d like to point out that the Latino congresspeople did NOT drink the kool-aid with Obama.
They boycotted his meeting yesterday.
I’m going to back those guys and gals. They are more representative of me, a white woman, than the white woman congresspeople are.
My Spanish stops at Como esta usted.
But by golly, I think I can learn!
(I’ll do better than Kennedy did, for sure!)
llilytoo — I guess the Women Senators have to do this because if Obama loses big — what about the down ticket Democrats? However, where were these women when Hillary needed them? When women were being trashed by Obama — they said nothing. Now the reality of the situation is setting in. Their pathetic pandering makes me even more angry.
Maybe Senator Boxer was as disgusted by Hillary’s campaign as everyone else.
I think it was her daughter having been divorced from Hillarys brother in law or some such thing and her total lack of concern for her duties to the people hmmnnn
You are a sick puppy. Nov 4th. is payback.
I do like your handle. LOL*
Heads off a lot of innane posts!
You have some nerve groveling for our votes then. If Hillary was too “disgusting” for you in the primaries, her supporters are likewise off limits. Bye bye.
The Florida survey also found that McCain currently leads Obama in the state by a 47% to 39% margin
Obama winning FL that was a JOKE
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_presidential_election
Quinnepiac was not one of the pollsters even ranked in the survey of pollsters and accuracy during the primaries. There were 25 listed. They weren’t on the list.
I knew when I saw FL that something was way off.
Rasmussen is not up there with the most accurate, either, but it’s “middling.”
Fred — Obama will not win Michigan, Ohio or Pa. either. McGovern, Obama’s new best friend was blown out in a landslide and he only won Mass. Obama is losing Mass. too. We need a viable third party–after this election the Democratic Party will just be a joke on the Tonight Show.
McGovern won District of Columbia and MASS.
I suspect obammy will ask Hill to be VP next thurs because his campaign is in the tank and once again needs Hill.
Dollars to doughnuts Massachusetts goes red this year. They already have Deval Patrick, another of Adolph Axelfraud’s Frankenstein creations, and they aren’t happy with him.
and speaking of MASS :0)
everyone please send BIG ED O REILLY some LOVE!!
Lets send Kerry back to windsurfing full time!!
BOOYAH!!!
http://edoreilly.com/where-we-stand
Lou — sorry I forgot DC — I hope BO doesn’t ask Hillary to be his running mate because I cannot vote for a ticket with him at the top.
“The crap about Repubs being bad for women is just a pile of it…”
anyone writing this is out of their fucking mind.
it is the gop platform to overturn roe v wade.
it is the gop platform to promote “abstinence only education” and they are against BIRTH CONTROL
it is the GOP platform to oppose gay and lesbian rights
it was the right-wing GOP that torpedoed the ERA.
it is the GOP that wants MORE WARS–mccain sings “bomb iran”
NARAL endorsed obama because they knew he could/would win and they wanted to help the best chance to derail the GOP.
and, it is absolutely hilarious that kooks that tried to claim the use of the word “periodically” and “Clinton” in the same sentence is evidence of blatant misogyny are now throwing around terms like “Menopausal cheerleaders” as a way to denigrate to views of a respected group of senators that happen to be women.
again, I suspect that half of you dead enders are really GOP operatives sent by Karl and his pals. No real democrat could continually exhibit such stupidity and foolishness and no real feminist would be ready to attack the most senior women in the senate just because their candidate happened to lose the primary.
Furthermore, no real feminist would be caught dead claiming that the GOP was “not bad for women”
–and even REPUBLICAN WOMEN are coming out against McCain!
Again, I urge those of you that are not GOP operatives to come to your senses and get a grip on yourselves.
Going through life so deluded and so ignorant won’t be very pleasant
roflmao …..that’s it, really warm up to the fact based reality group with nonsense and name calling with no foundation. Woooo, my pants are on fire.
Good, level-headed and reasoned rebuttal there.
Don’t you have a cult meeting to go to?
ROFLMAO!!!!
I love this thread today. The O-bots are new or extra stupid and the replies to the stupid is quick, short, to the point and so, so clever and funny.
Another Democrat for McCain!!!
I know. Putting down the trolls is what I do for recreation. I get a kick out of it.
roflmao. you saying that is really a joke!
BWWAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!
nice try BeelzeBot!!
Highly sensible stuff, Steve. From what I’ve seen over the last few days, the regulars here are so self-parodic and self-refuting that it’s probably better just to let them rant. McCain, good for women! Water, good for fire! Gravity, good for flying! Wheee!
so why don’t you leave? Does it make you feel good to make fun of people, to judge them? Does it make you feel above everyone? What, you didn’t get enough support on dailyobama?
go take your meds and try a new meme, like working for your candidate.
you must be worried, eh? why are you here? Why do you care? Afraid HRC will be nominated from the floor the more everyone finds out about obambi?
Obama,good for nothing..Wheee
Score! Good one. LOL!
Auntie Meme good for well thought out posts! Auntie Meme good for reasoned arguments! Auntie Meme good for soaring rhetoric that makes people think! Arrghhh!!!
I no longer apologize for Dean’s scream! I am so glad he didn’t make it as the nominee – he sure has shown his true colors and they are brown and black shirts.
Auntie — well at least you trolls can agree with one another. Cause you ain’t getting any converts here.
The Democratic party now feels it can define women’s issues for them. They’ve put together this cute little “checklist” so you don’t feel too harassed. The Democratic party says, “Think of voting for us as having a nice chat with your school RN about your first period.” Isn’t that just precious! Women are not voting *for* McCain. They’re voting against Obama, because the Republicans have made them feel more valued and treated more equally. Blame it on poor leadership and surly attitudes from the Democrats. They have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Actually, I do not agree. Moderate judges have helped women more than even I realized before this silly season. They have a better track record of being able to step out and take a risk than some of the more liberal-minded judges have been.
But I did know…..and still know…..that activist judges were not the best move on the part of liberals. It set off a backlash that we’re still contending with today.
Ditto for Obama’s race division. We’ll be dealing with this dung, unfortunately, for years to come.
So I’m more comfortable with moderation.
But then…..I am a moderate Democrat.
yep that good ole Republican Chief Justice Warren. Sure did a lot of liberal decisions that ole Warren Court.
anninca — for most of the last 50 years the Democrats have controlled Congress and they have done nothing about healthcare. If they didn’t like Hillary’s Healthcare plan why didn’t any of them bring a healthcare bill to the floor? In 1994 Teddy said if I had known this was so important to the people he would have proposed a bill 20 years previous. Well its been another 14 years and still no bill from Teddy. Tell the people what they want to hear and then get in and do nothing. Now the Democratic Party is the party of Youth — and only Rock Stars need to apply to be Potus.
Right. If the Democratic party gave two shits about any of this, they would respect the most fundamental tenet of their party’s platform which is the right to vote and hold fair elections. Once the right to vote was negotiable, all women’s rights became negotiable.
It’s not just women. If it were strictly that, I doubt I’d have the staying power. I’ve just worked within a sexist world too long to let it ruffle me.
But it’s other groups that will be hurt.
I repeat. They will screw over Latinos.
Boxer is from CA. So is Pelosi.
The Latino Dems are rightfully aware that these women will sell them out.
The Latinos vote in CA is significant, but more important, the issues are significant.
We MUST have some reasonable dialogue on this.
McCain can handle that. He’s proven it by forging a bi-partisan bill. Yes, the conservatives shot it down. Yes, it’s still a hot button.
But we really must resolve this issue and do so fairly.
Obama isn’t capable of even discussing the issue. His health care plan, alone, will kill CA. We NEEDED true universal health care to save our state.
We really have to deal with this issue. This one can’t wait 4 years.
uhmm actually it was Queen Donna Brazille who FOUGHT the inclusion of LGBT in the Affirmative Action platform of the Democratic Party
go do some more homework troll…….
You are absolutely hilarious (and insane). The republicans are against birth control????? Where in the world do you get your information? Do you think for one moment, ANY woman (OR man) would vote for a republican if they ‘outlawed’ birth control???
Or, are you mistaking ‘abortion’ for ‘birth control’?
You are absolutely hilarious (and insane). The republicans are against birth control????? Where in the world do you get your information? Do you think for one moment, ANY woman (OR man) would vote for a republican if they ‘outlawed’ birth control???
Or, are you mistaking ‘abortion’ as ‘birth control’? Or, talking about passing out condoms to third graders?? You’re trying you dangest to try and smear (and LIE about) the repubs so your anti-America/Whites/Jews puppet wis in November!
“Menopausal cheerleaders” as a way to denigrate to views of a respected group of senators that happen to be women.
They don’t have any views. They were parrotting Clinton after they stabbed her in the back. They were trying to take Clinton’s work, her life’s work, and put it forth as the Democratic party “Checklist For Change” meaning giving Obama credit for Clinton’s work.
They came forward as politicians first who happen to be women and acted like high school cheerleaders, rah rah-ing for the halfback who gets the ball at the 99 yard line and takes credit for the touchdown. If they had any self-respect, and these are grown women who know exactly what they’re doing, they would not carry on with this farce. I will say it again, since my comment seems to have struck a nerve, they are exploiting their femininity when they have intention of carrying out women’s agendas. “Menopausal cheerleaders” was a nice way of characterizing them.
Ohio: McCain vs. Obama
Obama 43 McCain 44 McCain +1.0
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/ohio/election_2008_ohio_presidential_election
Of course they’re pandering. All of them are reaching for the latest talking point and who are up for reElection, except for the two ladies in waiting (lol) who endorsed B O, new to the Senate.
Taking the lead of say anything for re-Election. Just like Robert Wexlers new found impeachment cause, now that it has no chance. When asked why he was pushing it, “because the voters want it”. Not because it’s the right thing to do. No because laws have been broken. Not because he thinks there’s a chance this time around, just to pander to the voters because he doesn’t have anything else to offer as candy for his re election.
And, he also endorsed B O….the King Panderer who gladly wears his symbol with the insignia of the Double Pander Pin. Maybe we can get them all one. For the Ladies, it can be a Flag next to a W, for I am Patriotic and I am Woman.
Agreed. They are trying to keep their day jobs – but instead of by answering to the people (the smart choice), by answering to the party (the lazy choice). I hope they all lose their bids for re-election – the same way Mr. Misogynist will lost his bid for president.
Interesting how the polls are showing half of Americans thing Obama is not qualified to be president. Gee, who knew? The Democratic party is a ship of fools.
Wexler, the lead on count the votes in FL in 2000 but not in 2008. He needs to be voted out of office.
From Puma Pac:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/18/thanks-for-nothing-senators/
Copy and paste this link into your email and send it to the Ten Senators who now want us to hop on the Unity Pony after the Sexist Horse has left the barn. Checklist for Change? Not so much.
YOUTUBE LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM39yIKoSo4
Senator Barbara MIKULSKIhttp://mikulski.senate.gov/Contact/contact.cfm
Senator Debbie STABENOW senator@stabenow.senate.gov
Senator Blanche LINCOLNhttp://lincoln.senate.gov/webform.html
Senator Patty MURRAYhttp://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm
Senator Dianne FEINSTEINhttp://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactUs.EmailMe
Senator Barbara BOXERhttp://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.cfm
Senator Maria CANTWELLhttp://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
Senator Mary LANDRIEUhttp://landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
Senator Claire MCCASKILL http://mccaskill.senate.gov/contact/
Senator Amy KLOBUCHARhttp://klobuchar.senate.gov/emailamy.cfm?contactForm=emailamy&submit=Go
The elected Democrats are really starting to piss me off. They are the most ineffective group ever. The republican party is/was the party of corruption but they got (awful)stuff done and the Democrats could not even put the brakes on them and now the Democrats are in the majority and they still get nothing done. What is to be proud of again, I have forgotten. And should we really have to write senate and congress people every week just to stop them from doing something bad. (Roberts, Alito, Wire tapping, FISA changes, Iraq war, etc..). What good has my 100+ letters gotten, 100+ signed petitions, nothing. They do not care what we think. Pandering for votes instead of actually doing anything productive.
That’s because they are lying.
It’s hard to be credible when lying.
You know this might be the perfect time to start a new party. Not a green party but a centrist party. One that does the most good and takes into account the views of the majority of people.
Joe…..I’m so ready. But it takes a good 4 years to even think about that idea and make it workable.
But I’m so ready! I’d love to spend the next 4 years actually being proactive instead of this crap.
Let the wing-nut right and loony left have the 2 fringes and start a centrist party sounds like a good start but what we also need is a way to keep Politicians honest. The media used to preform that task but we all know how that worked out. Then “The blooger boiz will keep them straight and report the truth”, we also know how that worked out. Now what? Are Politicians and media always gonna be more corrupt than professional?
I’m in.
I agree 100%, I believe it is long past time to break the stranglehold of the 2 party system. The republican voters chose McCain, which indicates to me many of them are tired of the direction their party went in. The PUMA movement illustrates the disaffection of the many moderates in the Democratic party. I believe a “centrist party” would appeal to a majority of Americans.
The Democratic party needs a house cleaning this election and until the K Street crooks follow Tom Daschle and exit stage right. Disenchanted Democrats may have four years to form a new party, build up a smaller party, or the radical left may drop out and the grown-ups can keep working for the Democrats.
No one with the Democratic party or the country’s best interests at heart will vote Democrat this year.
hope floats — the party needs to get rid of Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy. The DNC is broke because of him. They need to vet candidates prior to forcing them down our throats and they need to get rid of this fraudulent caucus system.
And if I hear one more time from them — We could have taken up this bill but Bush would have vetoed it. Jesus wept. The party of Roosevelt has become the party of THE DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK.
LOL. They’ve had their majority, too.
joe smith — a real workers party. There are millions of us and I feel that nobody is representing us. I still feel that Bill and Hillary Clinton are the ones to start this party.
That’s because its the Keystone cops redux.
Bigtime — Pelosi is the one who really pisses me off. She was going to stop the Iraq War in 3 days and once the Dems got it they kept giving Bush more and more money and never said another word about stopping the war.
Then she wanted to stop the nomination process because it might mean that Hillary would win. She typifies hypocrisy to me. God forbid this could go to the convention to be thrashed out. Democratic Party elected officials are fuming over this.
Pelosi will say anything to win and then never do anything for anyone until the next election when she repeats the same crap all over again.
Remember, people in the congress/senate WERE just everyday, normal people like us; they are NO different – yet they get into office and all of a sudden they’re powerful. We’re talking about everyday people; just look around at the people you know or work with and think ‘maybe THEY could be the next senator/congressemen’ and some of them could be lousy, worthless, butt-kissing employees or drug addicts/drunks/womanizers, or pimps on the side – yet these people COULD be future senators/congress. That’s the way I view a lot of the senators/congress – they’re nobodies who LOVE having power over their constituents (’course the benefits ain’t bad, either); that makes them feel ’special’ or better than plain ‘ole everyday people like us. They DON’T care about us; they have their own circle now.
Bigtime: Remember, people in the congress/senate WERE just everyday, normal people like us; they are NO different – yet they get into office and all of a sudden they’re powerful. We’re talking about everyday people; just look around at the people you know or work with and think ‘maybe THEY could be the next senator/congressemen’ and some of them could be lousy, worthless, butt-kissing employees or drug addicts/drunks/womanizers, or pimps on the side – yet these people COULD be future senators/congress. That’s the way I view a lot of the senators/congress – they’re nobodies who LOVE having power over their constituents (’course the benefits ain’t bad, either); that makes them feel ’special’ or better than plain ‘ole everyday people like us. They DON’T care about us; they have their own circle now.
Bigtime: Remember, people in the congress/senate WERE just everyday, normal people like us; they are NO different – yet they get into office and all of a sudden they’re powerful. We’re talking about everyday people; just look around at the people you know or work with and think ‘maybe THEY could be the next senator/congressemen’ and some of them could be lousy, worthless, butt-kissing employees or drug addicts/drunks/womanizers, or pimps on the side – yet these people COULD be future senators/congress.
That’s the way I view a lot of the senators/congress – they’re nobodies who LOVE having power over their constituents (’course the benefits ain’t bad, either); that makes them feel ’special’ or better than plain ‘ole everyday people like us. They DON’T care about us; they have their own circle now.
I just don’t understand how anybody can say that this guy will do anything when he has no track record.
well he has a record of flipping flopping on is promises
he backed off NAFTA reform today and also said he will NOT accept public financing after promising and signing a pledge to do so
so we KNOW he lies and panders….
Exactly. We don’t know what he’s going to do. And as far as promises go, well, we all know how much a promise means from a politician. The proof if in the track record.
Everyone begins without a track record.
Obama supporters are placing their bets on the guy because they think they’ve seen an unusually bright flash of potential. Something is definitely up with Obama, to have come so far so fast in spite of things that would normally have worked against him. It’s probably that very thing that frightens some people. It’s not the possibility that “Change you can believe in” might only be an empty slogan that worries them. It’s the possibility that the guy really means it, and may actually have the potential to do it.
Change is something people like in the abstract. It’s a very different matter when we consider that our reality might actually begin to shift. Sometimes we suddenly find we’re a lot more comfortable with the known than the unknown–even when the known has become very difficult.
The thing about the republicans is that they have a track record. Continuous republican domination has been the norm in America for nearly a decade–if not in the White House, certainly in congress. Their track record extends back even farther. While they do an admirable job of blaming the woes of America on democratic philosophy, an examination of the track record reveals an entirely different story. Take that “tax and spend democrat” mantra they’re always chanting, for example. Oddly, all of the budget busting federal deficit cycles that have brought us to the brink of economic disaster coincide with republican administrations. George W. Bush is only the most recent link in a long chain of fiscally irresponsible republican presidents. His own accomplishments are noteworthy: In a mere 7 years, George W. Bush has run up more debt than all previous American presidents combined. In a mere 7 years, he’s doubled our national debt to over 9 trillion dollars. If you believe there’s no relationship between that and the fact that our economy is in a tail spin, between that and the fact that the dollar is dropping like a stone, you probably need a quick remedial course in economics.
Take the Bush tax cuts–which John McCain vows to make permanent. From 2001 to 2010, the middle 20% of American families reap an accumulated total tax savings of $5,402–about $540 per year. The wealthiest 1% save $342,427 for the same period. The poorest 20% of working families save a total of $744–or $74 per year. http://www.ctj.org/html/gwb0602.htm These tax cuts, which essentially redistribute wealth upward, were enacted during a time when the country was at war–an unnecessary war that has already cost over half a trillion dollars and over 4000 American lives, and also serves to redistribute American wealth upward, in case you hadn’t noticed. Look up the corporate profits reaped from the invasion of Iraq. Follow the political connections. It’s instructive to do so. John McCain wants to continue that.
An interesting statistic: The wealthiest 20% of American families now own over 85% of all American wealth; the bottom 40% now own 0.2% of all American wealth. The working poor are getting poorer, and the rich wealthier. Somewhere along the line that republican “trickle down” economic philosophy has been turned on its head.
That’s the long-established republican track record. Maybe some people consider that it compares unfavorably with Obama’s blank slate, considering what the man is saying about his philosophy and intentions.
Don’t listen to republican spin. Look at their record and their stated intentions. Both Clinton and Obama want to disengage from Iraq. Both Clinton and Obama plan to increase middle class tax cuts, but remove the unethical tax breaks at the upper end. And what about McCain’s scheme to give people the option of investing in individual retirement accounts in lieu of a portion of their Social Security retirement benefits? Who do you think that will actually benefit? And where have we heard that pitch before?
Stop using FACTS against the PUMAs!!!!
The PUMAS MUST vote for McCain because they cannot [think clearly] vote for the guy who beat the woman who was [entitled] to be President.
Their feelings have been hurt, nothing else matters.
Try again, William. I’m not a PUMA. I’m an Independent voter who supported Hillary and McCain was always my second choice.
Oversensitivity (a bit glib here) doesn’t negate Obama being an empty suit.
You don’t get it, do you?
Clinton had the nomination process stolen from her.
You do not take 54 delegates from “uncommitted” and award them to someone who’s name wasn’t even on the ballot.
you do not hold a closed door meeting/vote, when your charter specifically says it’s against the rules.
You do not selectively punish 2 states, and ignore 3 others…
You do not exact a much harsher punishment, when the original one on the books is not that harsh (all, versus half).
You do not stand by and watch the only successful dem president in 40 years, and his wife get beaten up.
Spare me this bullshit man, obama is shit, and there’s no comparison to HIllary.
I won’t argue the point that Clinton would have been a better option than Obama, because I’d also have prefered Clinton to Obama. But I won’t let my anger over that blind me to what we’d be getting with John McCain.
It worries me that so many seem to be thinking of the possible election of John McCain as a sort of surrogate victory of Hillary over her democratic primary opponent. With all respect, I see that as an emotion-driven position rather than a logic-driven position. If I can’t have Hillary, I’ll opt for the person whose political philosophy is most like her own–not the guy who embraces the very philosophy that she opposes. She’s actually told us she believes we should do that, and I believe she says what she means.
Nor do I write off the likelihood that I’ll get my chance to cast a presidential vote for Hillary Clinton in the future. Good Lord, she’s only 60 years old, and female. McCain is running as a 72 year-old-male and no one seems too worried about his age.
Right. But you’re oblivious to the fact that this election was more fixed than the 1915 World Series.
Our economy’s in a tailspin for a few reasons:
1 – Obama’s Wall St. hedge fund manager friends and Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson who pushed the subprime mortgage crisis. Democrats like Chris Dodd who chairs the Senate Banking Committee and who made money a little money off Countrywide.
2 – The credit market crisis. Obama voted against a 2005 measure that would have limited credit card interest rates to 30 percent. His defense was it never went through the Senate Banking Committee. Well, Now we know why! How do you think Obama rose so quickly through the political ranks? Selling out. Mayor Daley and Tony Rezko and Emil Jones and Rev Wright and Bill Ayers. He kissed the right asses and never thought twice about screwing over the little people. That’s why they worry about “elitists.” The American people want someone in touch with their worries and who they can respect.
3 – The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have crippled our economy. Obama says he wants a quick troop withdrawal, but he knows nothing about how the US military works. He has voted to continue the war. He has never held a meeting with our NATO allies on his Senate Foreign Affairs European Subcommittee about the war in Afghanistan. He has threatened to invade Pakistan. And in the end, he hasn’t been willing to make the tough calls, to challenge his party, to risk criticism from his supporters, to bring real change to Washington.
McCain is running as a 72 year-old-male and no one seems too worried about his age.
I’m not at all worried about his age. I know quite a few people who are past 72 and still working. Heck, the way Social Security is falling apart, a lot of people might still be working when they’re 82.
I think the age of the President is the least of our worries.
Everyone begins without a track record.
But not everyone runs for President of the United States without a track record. Let Obama serve another term in the senate, so that we can see exactly where he stands and what he accomplishes.
It’s like Night of the Living Dead. They just lumber through the comment threads, “CHAAAANGE. CHAAAANGE.”
When they go on about endless war and the tax cuts and coat hanger abortions, I just think of David Lynch’s ‘Wild At Heart.’
Lula: One of these days the sun’s gonna come up and burn a hole clean through the planet like a giant electrical x-ray.
Sailor: I wouldn’t worry about that, Peanut. By then people’ll prob’ly be drivin Buicks to the moon.
The war does seem pointless and endless. The tax cuts are legalized robbery. (Many just haven’t noticed yet because the they’ve been funded by running up the national debt and by allowing inflation to creep upward.) I actually remember the days when frightened young women died of botched illegal abortions.
I agree there’s been an epidemic of political zombification that’s swept across America. There are just some differing views about who the zombies actually are.
My suspicion has long been that they’re mostly on the political right. Unquestioning support of Bush’s war and a belief that the Bush tax cuts somehow made the middle class richer might be litmus tests.
Oh. For fuck’s sake. I’m 30. A girl in my high school starved herself so her family wouldn’t find out she was pregnant. She gave birth to a stillborn infant, and it was found under in a suitcase and wrapped in trash bags under her bed. These cases don’t go away, because of Roe v Wade. Abortion will still be legal in most states, in the event it’s overturned. Went into that debate ad nauseum upthread. I’ve read up on every policy you could possibly bring up, and you really aren’t bringing much when you go on about the Bush tax cuts. Obama’s lifting payroll tax caps and doubling the capital gains tax is equally destructive. Like most of his policies, it underestimates human behavior. The wealthy will simply move their assets around and report less money to the government. In an economic recession, it could be catastrophic. Obama has neocons advising his economic policy. We already know we can’t trust him, but there is a lot of money betting the American people will hire another dumb President. Then, the fox is in the hen house, as they say.
Respectfully, the Roe vs. Wade discision has set the law since before you were born. Things were once very different.
Were I a young adult woman, I would be extremely resentful about other people presuming to take control of my reproductive decisions. Telling me, essentially, that I was a captive their moral precepts and of my gender. That was once the norm–and it wasn’t so long ago.
Time was when birth control was illegal, let alone abortion. It might seem hard to believe that we could ever go back to those days, but growing numbers of doctors and pharmacists across the country are refusing to prescribe or dispense birth control pills. Someday we may look back on the freedom of choice provided by Roe vs. Wade as a temporary state of affairs.
Don’t forget that a resurgance of that sort of thinking was central to the rise of the religious right.
Respectfully, I am of the generation that survived RvW. My mother left in tears after watching some version of The Silent Scream, which back in the day in some states was required before you had an abortion. It was part of their mandatory counseling. Now it is a new generation of bald-pated men “holding my gender captive of their moral precepts.” I have never felt that I was a captive of my gender, as you implied. I am on the cusp of the Juno Generation. It is more important to me that communities are able to address the issue of abortion as they see fit. You brought up 2004 when pro- life activists attempted to make BC inaccessible for women in 12 states. They were emboldened by Bush’s Dred Scott promises, and they never came to pass. That’s why we haven’t heard anything of it since. And RvW has nothing to do with BC or education. Those issues are determined by downticket Dems. Likewise, Congress must do its job approving SCOTUS appointments. I personally would not miss RvW were it gone tomorrow. Most pro-life are women, actually. I am pro-choice, but I refuse to allow that to dictate my vote.
Uhhbama will raise SS payroll taxes 30% for those
making b/w 72-98k, this is a regressive tax…
Uhhbama said today he was merely fired up with rhetoric when he talked about changing NAFTA…
Uhhbama told CNBC’s John Harwood he would hold off on any tax increases when he takes office if the economy isnt doing well…
Uhhbama recently said he wont withdraw the troops right away…
Uhhbama is a flip floppin Freidmanite lovin panderin empty suit..
NO UHHBAMA
Well now, where did you come up with that?
Presently we pay a flat-rate FICA tax of 6.2% on earnings up to $102,000 per year. Income above that is not subject to Social Security tax.
Obama has proposed a possible policy change that would leave Social Security taxes as they are on incomes up to $102,000. There would be no Social Security taxes on earnings exceeding the present $102,000 limit, until you reached annual earnings above $250,000. Earnings that exceed $250,000 in any year would again be subject to Social Security taxes at the current rate, with no top ceiling.
97% of all American workers would be completely unaffected by the change. Those with income exceeding $250,000 per year would find themselves paying FICA taxes at the same annual percentage rate as the average American worker. And the looming Social Security crisis would be permanently averted.
What’s wrong with this plan? Simple: The rich would be paying more taxes.
Considering the appalling distribution of American wealth–where the top 5% own 60% of everything–I do not find this proposal unjust. Particularly considering that the top 5% owe their good fortune to the productive efforts of all of those below them. The top 5% don’t exactly put out 60% of the nation’s creativity and labor, you know.
Maybe they should just look at their new taxes as a fair requirement that they take proper care of their serfs.
I think the name is spelled “Obama”, btw.
And btw…
The group of Americans who are most dependent upon Social Security to keep them out of poverty in old age are women.
Another important group are children, who were dependent upon deceased or disabled workers.
The surviving widows and children of the wealthiest 5% among us seldom have such worries.
Obama wants to let the temporary Bush tax cuts expire for those making over $200K or $250K, and he wants to eliminate the AMT tax on the middle class. Obama also wants to give those making
under $75K an additional tax to offset the regressive payroll tax. And he wants to eliminate the income tax for anyone making less than $50K. If you click on the link for the Kaus article, you will find attached a PDF that point by point breaks down McCain and Obama tax plans. As for Obama’s Donut plan…
Mickey Kaus for Slate outlines this very well:
Obama fuzzes up the “contribution” part of the tax. By starting up the payroll tax again above $250,000 in income, he risks undermining support for the system (even though he’d keep other regressive “contribution” aspects in place, including a) taxing low-income workers from their first dollar** and b) taxing only earned income and not investment income.) The new Obama system wouldn’t be welfare, but in order to make that point defenders would have to rely more heavily on the “work test.”
SNIP
By asking the affluent to pay what by historical standards is a big extra chunk of their income–at least 6.2% at the margin, maybe double that if you assume workers wind up paying for their employer’s additional 6.2% share, definitely double that for the self-employed–Obama risks provoking the bailout reaction. That’s one reason he creates his “doughnut hole” of no payroll tax between $102,000 and $250,000–there are lots of voters in that range he doesn’t want to chase away.
High-marginal rates in themselves are not a good thing–they encourage tax evasion, for starters, as well as elaborate legal schemes that funnel money not into the most productive uses, but into tax shelters that avoid the high marginal rates (by, say, reclassifying it as capital gains). Lots of laywers and bankers take their cut in these wasteful shelter shenanigans. If Obama really will hike the top rate into the 60% pre-Reagan range, as Krugman and the Tax Policy Center suggest, that’s a big deal. And if 6-12 points of that 60% will come from Obama’s Social Security hike, we’d better make sure we’re getting something pretty important in exchange.
Eliminating the payroll-tax cap puts enough IOUs into Social Security’s “trust fund” to make it solvent for more than 75 years. But the federal government needs to have enough cash to make good on those IOUs, and eliminating the cap gets you, as I said, only about one quarter of the way there. And Obama’s plan falls short even of this goal.
http://www.slate.com/id/2193674/
Social Security is structured so that the more you pay in, the more you get back. That’s what supposedly makes it a compact among the generations and not a welfare program. Actually, what it does is make it an inefficient, disguised welfare program. If Obama would give high-earners more Social Security benefits in return for making them pay more, then of course his plan would fall even shorter. It would also be a little strange: Why take money away from these folks to give some of it back to them? If he does not give them more benefits, he will be changing the Social Security program in a fairly big way. [Ramesh Ponnuru] Obama’s Social Security Plan: Obama wants to apply payroll taxes on wages above $250,000, not just wages under $102,000.
Nobody wants to talk about Larry Sinclair. Taking the high road. Can you imagine if someone came forward and said they had sex with Bill Clinton , it would be on every channel and on the front page of every blog and newspaper. I believe Larry Sinclair now. I am also showing it to everyone at work and putting up Google suggestions (Ayers, Obama, flag)(Obama, Sinclair, drugs)(Obama, Rezko, board games)(Obama, Rezko, House)(Obama, Young, Trinity, Sinclair)(many,many more too) on the bulletin boards near punch clocks and the break areas, big, big hits with most people at work.
Heck, he’s at a wedding and they suggest he’s had sex with some starlette! LOL*
amen……but I appreciated that Larry allowed us to discuss it.
I pretty much am done until the limo driver is found and interviewed, anyway.
It’s still a case of He said/She said.
That’s why this BS by the women frosts me. Obama gets a free pass on this. Hillary is hounded from Iowa on to quit. And they dare to call the treatment equal?
Thank goodness, I’m going to the beach today and with a normie friend who will not be interested in this topic in the least.
Bigtime — its possible that the man who could be president had sex in the back of a limo while taking drugs and nobody wants to touch it–AMAZING. With Clinton we even had to know how his penis was shaped and that it turned to the left. I pray the media starts doing its job by fall because these two arrogant amateurs could finish off this great nation.
ayers said in an interview PUBLISHED on 9/11– but completed earlier– that he “wished he’d done more” to stop the Vietnam War and the slaughter of millions of people in that war.
nice attempt to deploy the sean hannity talking points though.
Ayers complete comments from the article used by hannity and his clones includes the following explanation from ayers:
”I don’t think you can understand a single thing we did without understanding the violence of the Vietnam War,” he said, and the fact that ”the enduring scar of racism was fully in flower.” Mr. Ayers pointed to Bob Kerrey, former Democratic Senator from Nebraska, who has admitted leading a raid in 1969 in which Vietnamese women and children were killed. ”He committed an act of terrorism,” Mr. Ayers said. ”I didn’t kill innocent people.”
On his blog, ayers notes the following about hannity and his ilk:
1. Regrets. I’m often quoted saying that I have “no regrets.” This is not true. For anyone paying attention—and I try to stay wide-awake to the world around me all/ways—life brings misgivings, doubts, uncertainty, loss, regret. I’m sometimes asked if I regret anything I did to oppose the war in Viet Nam, and I say “no, I don’t regret anything I did to try to stop the slaughter of millions of human beings by my own government.” Sometimes I add, “I don’t think I did enough.” This is then elided: he has no regrets for setting bombs and thinks there should be more bombings.
The illegal, murderous, imperial war against Viet Nam was a catastrophe for the Vietnamese, a disaster for Americans, and a world tragedy. Many of us understood this, and many tried to stop the war. Those of us who tried recognize that our efforts were inadequate: the war dragged on for a decade, thousands were slaughtered every week, and we couldn’t stop it. In the end the U.S. military was defeated and the war ended, but we surely didn’t do enough.
2. Terror. Terrorism—according to both official U.S. policy and the U.N.—is the use or threat of random violence to intimidate, frighten, or coerce a population toward some political end. This means, of course, that terrorism is not the exclusive province of a cult, a religious sect, or a group of fanatics. It can be any of these, but it can also be—and often is—executed by governments and states. A bombing in a café in Israel is terrorism, and an Israeli assault on a neighborhood in Gaza is terrorism; the September 11 attacks were acts of terrorism, and the U.S. bombings in Viet Nam for a decade were acts of terrorism. Terrorism is never justifiable, even in a just cause—the Union fight in the 1860’s was just, for example, but Shernan’s March to the Sea was indefensible terror. I’ve never advocated terrorism, never participated in it, never defended it. The U.S. government, by contrast, does it routinely and defends the use of it in its own cause consistently.
3. Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good—must win.
What the Hell is wrong with you? You are defending a man who no better than Osama Bin Laden. He claims not to have killed innocent people, because he reserves the right to judge who is “innocent.”
Your holding up a murderer to convince people to vote for BHO?
Nice!
Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
Sir Winston Churchill, Hansard, 1947
Let me get this straight. You think violence and terror are good ways to oppose war?
You’re DEFENDIHNG the Terrorist!
Unbelievable. You must undoubtedly be college educated.
Only those in or done with college can have such warped views.
FIRE IN THE NIGHT The Weathermen tried to kill my family. by John M. Murtagh 30 April 2008
In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. (Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.
I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside. The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS.
For the next 18 months, I went to school in an unmarked police car. My mother, a schoolteacher, had plainclothes detectives waiting in the faculty lounge all day. My brother saved a few bucks because he didn’t have to rent a limo for the senior prom: the NYPD did the driving. We all made the best of the odd new life that had been thrust upon us, but for years, the sound of a fire truck’s siren made my stomach knot and my heart race. In many ways, the enormity of the attempt to kill my entire family didn’t fully hit me until years later, when, a father myself, I was tucking my own nine-year-old John Murtagh into bed.
The Obamacrat women are a lot like the frenchmen who sold out to the Nazis in WW2. They’re quislings and shouldn’t be forgiven.
And remember who the architects of the South Dakota abortion ban endorsed.. they endorsed Obama. But the South Dakota Democratic Party has enough real Democrats to stop those anti-woman sexists.
Really…..interesting tidbit! I didn’t know that.
I’m not surprised. He’s made enough morality statements surrounding the abortion issue, along with his voting record which is actually dismal, albeit approved by NARAL and PP in some respects, that I’d go for Obama if I were anti-abortion, too.
Hillary was unequivocal about the issue.
Obama? He’s flip-flopping as usual.
So this is what happened to the three witches from Macbeth! They all became senators and knifed Hillary Clinton in the back. Shakespeare would ‘ave been proud.
Never a dime out of me for any one of them.
I was reading about Tammany Hall politics and on wikipedia saw this published way back when.
It shows women( signifying liberty and democracy) being devoured by a beast while the elites sit in the stands enjoying the spectacle.
It is interesting how things come around in full circle. All the cartoon needs is the words DNC and nobama stamped in appropriate places.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nast-Tammany.jpg
I thought of it immediately when I realized a putsch was underway. It is the old Tammany Hall, but this time it’s in Chicago. Hillary is a modern day Eleanor Roosevelt.
Exactly.
Vichy Women.
Female Impersonators.
WINOs (Women In Name Only).
And remember, Obama was all for John Roberts until an aide told him it wouldn’t be politically expedient. Obama is so out of his league, I bet he could not even accurately state what Roe v. Wade stipulates.
Boxer, McCaskill, and the other cowardly career politician Obama Girls who put party (and their ride on the congressional gravy train) before women are nothing to me.
Vichy Women had their heads shaved after France was liberated….Hmmmm
Contacting and writing letters won’t do. We will have to defeat these people when they come up next — start with that McCaskill woman. No money for Emily’s list. How nice it would have been for those women to have recognized the historic nature and significance of Clinton’s run and voice protest at what happened. They don’t deserve our special recognition and treatment.
thank you NO QUARTER for bringing this to to the
attention of those who may not have seen the charade….I HAVE WKD FOR THE PTY AND ESPRCALLY FOR OMN FOR THE PAST 20 YS…AND ALWAYS WITH PRIDE…the recent behavior of the dem. womn in congress has made me cringe…and the final insult to our intlligence is the COMMITTEE OF 10….They want us to listen to thrm NOW! WHERE WERE THEIR VOICES WHEN THEY WEE VILLIFING HILLARY. THEY
INCLUDING PELOSI SOLD THEIR SOULS….THEY WANTED WOMNS HLP AND MONEY WHEN THEY WERE RNNING BUT ONCE ELECTD THEY JOINED THE OLD BOYS
CLUB..WHATS THE FEMALE DERIVATION OF JUDAS…..
I’m guessing that in your work for the party, you weren’t asked to RITE LETRS.
I’m guessing that this person will vote against the Democrats but voted for them before. Enjoy all those affluent, educated votes. Sadly, that is about 20% of the population. The working class whites, Latinos and Hispanics, Asians, the LGBT community, Jews, the elderly… all thrown under the bus. But I hear this fall, bitter is in.
I didn’t have to write… my staff did it for me also I NEVER LEARNED TO TYPE…BUT ..I DID LEARN LATIN AND SHAKESPEARE.AND MY FAVORITE EXPRESSION WAS ILLIGITIMAE NON CARBORUNDM!!!
I ALSO STAYED AT A HOLIDAY INN ONCE IF THATS IMPORTANT….STAY TUNED!
Women’s Checklist?
Sorry…I could care less. I refuse to vote for someone that says he will be transparent, but has yet to indicate it. I refuse to vote for someone who has such close associations that blame whites and talk trash, are anti-Semitic, anti-American, known terrorists and are just plain shady characters.
I refuse to vote for someone that cannot even push the right button when he votes!
Just say Nobama
If McCaskill is part of it it is bogus.
Panderers all.
I just love this site, thank you for bringing the truth out that the mainstream media fails to do.. I hope people wake up before November and realize we cannot afford to have Obama as a president, not now. I am in support of Hillary Clinton and I am not angry she lost, she didn’t lose, the country lost and besides it’s a long time until November
calling hillary a monster==SEXISM
calling female senators witches, traitors, vichy collaborators ==OKAY!!!
I appreciate the consistency and logical arguments made on this blog, really, I am totally convinced of your righteousness now.
telling hillary ==when she is feeling low -she attacks =====sexism
telling her ==her claws come out ====sexism
just adding to ur list
LOL*……we aren’t interested in playing your double standards game.
We are like war-hardened posters here. We’ve been banned, kicked off, called racist, called every name in the book, seen posts about OUR hero that would curdle anyone’s blood….
This has become a place where we don’t have to pretend that was remotely OK with us.
It never was.
That’s why the backlash is so strong.
It was never acceptable.
And we no longer even care about going along to get along or what you think or what you call us.
YOU lost all credibility. You’re just a bunch of punk trash-talking kids who pretended to be liberal. Meanwhile, every other post is ageist, sexist, or worse.
We could not care less what you think.
I liken it that wonderful scene where Kathy Bates plows her car into the snotty teenager’s car and reminds them, “Sweeties, you have youth. I have insurance.”
LOL*
Yes, Fried Green Tomatoes!
annin — forgot that scene from Fried Green Tomatoes. Perfect. I think the pandering bothers me more than the put downs. The Democrats thought they could win without us and now they see they can’t — too bad so sad. The party miscalculated. They should leave us alone.
It isn’t just women they put down when they said they were going after the youth vote. There are 76 million boomers out there who are reliable voters — who is going to take their places if they go? Then there are the 30% of voters who are Hispanic–the Dems have coveted this group for a long time. Howard Dean couldn’t successfully launch a piss up in a brewery.
That is right. After when all the endorsements and feel good events are over we will see this evolve into to a bare knuckle fight. The BOBO campaign won’t know what hit them. They will just see his numbers collapse along with the money he is getting.
new post up this morning at PDOP: “Obama’s New Campaign Strategy: Control The Media and Manipulate Public Perception”
http://www.politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-new-campaign-strategy-control.html
http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_on_el_pr/obama_national_security
It isn’t like we haven’t been trying to catch this guy (Laden) for years. I guess *61 thinks he can simply mesmerize Laden with his rhetoric and Laden will be so dumb that he’ll just turn himself in because *61 asked him to.
ME WAFFLES —-BAMABI—-LALALAND —-57 STATES —-UH UM UH UMMMMMMMMM
These women are a bitter disappointment – their words too little, too late.
The Obama they so cheerfully, quickly and righteously endorsed, has hijacked the Democratic Party, apparently in collusion with the DNC. And Anglachele is correct: moving the DNC to Chicago cannot be done overnight.
I can’t figure out anymore whether these women are complicit or just fools.
In any event, a bitter disappointment.
Nobama. Not now. Not ever.
You know what this is? Hillary Clinton’s platform! The Democrats are really trying to bring in women by pushing Hillary’s ideas.
It would be brilliant if these people were not pushing “unity” now it just seems like pandering. Gross.
And can you believe the gall of them saying, “She’s shown women in the next generation how to run?”
Omigod!
Her fucking words are being swiped as we speak.
But …..girl, it’s just not your time yet.
Amazing stuff. Just amazing stuff.
feminist — the word UNITY loses something when the DNC has done its best to divide the party.
NOT ONE OF these women called out the media for the sexism!
Here is a video Link. http://www.video.aol.com/video-detail/womens-checklist-for-change/1547201665
1. Senator Klobuchar
1200 Washington Avenue South, Suite 250
Minneapolis, MN 55415
Main Line: 612-727-5220
2. Senator McCaskill,St. Louis
5850 A Delmar Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63112
Phone:314-367-1364
3. Senator Debbie Stabenow
221 W. Lake Lansing Road, Suite 100
East Lansing, MI 48823
Phone: (517) 203-1760
4. Senator Mikulski
503 Hart Office Building, Washington D.C., 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4654
5. Senator Mary Landrieu
Washington, DC
Voice: (202)224-5824
6. Senator Boxer
Washington, D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553
Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
7. Senator Stabenow
2988 Jackson Federal Building
915 2nd Avenue
Seattle, Washington 98174
Phone: (206) 553-5545
Keep Fighting!
I think it is important and much needed for women to help each other. ( There is a special place in hell for women who don’t” )
Mikulsi is a good supporter – she did voice dissent. I don’t remember the article (it was in the NYT) she made some less than discrete pithy remarks in defense of Hillary.
McCaskill is the worse of the lot – short on accomplishments, long on stridency. Made nasty remarks about Bill Clinton even though Hillary campaigned for her and helped her get into the Senate.
Boxer should have said something. Silence is not golden.
i did not know that but i believe you are right .
The link to the video with Harriet Christian is posted at Democratic Wings:
http://www.democraticwings.com/democraticwings/archives/womens_right
This gang will screw over Latinos, too. Mark my words.
I am throwing my hat in with the remaining minority groups.
NO SELL-OUTS!
Daily Kos posted a copy of Obama’s “Birth Certificate.” A blogger with experience in graphics and printing shows that the document was clearly produced using a graphics program. Why doesn’t Obama tell Hawaii to give one directly to Fox News and put this issue to bed?
http://patriotroom.com/?p=439
…waving to Bill.
“You’re just a bunch of punk trash-talking kids who pretended to be liberal.”
right, right, nice response!
you go girl!
strike a blow for all women and vote for the GOP!
when all those women are sticking coat hangers into their cervices, that’ll show ‘em!
no more mercy fucks for you steveeeeeeeee, sweetieeeee.
“Cervices???”
Are you speaking English, little one?
Do you really know about Margaret Sanger, Florence Rose, Dr. Edmond Bliss Foote, Blanche Ames Ames, Dorothy Hamilton Brush, Dr. Adaline Pendleton Satterwaite and many, many more women and men involved in the movement?
Do you know that there was no government interference with doctors performing abortions until the mid 19th century when the government (men) got involved and ended up passing the Comstock Law, which Margaret Sanger was jailed for trying to overturn?
If we go back to coat hangers, it won’t be women’s fault because they refused to vote for Obama it will, once more, be the fault of government who decided they know what’s best for second class female citizens. The real difference is that this time women in government can vote to stop it.
What kind of a nitwit would stick a coat hanger into her cervix? Do we need a Supreme Court ruling to keep women from shooting themselves in the forehead with a nail gun, too? That’s the dumbest reason to vote Dem I’ve heard yet.
The coathanger charge is bogus.
If Roe v Wade is overturned, the decision returns to the states, and there are many states that will uphold the right to same based on state law.
Obama recruits poorly informed trolls and gives them key words to post.
They never really UNDERSTAND what it is they’re posting about.
Simple, Steeveeee. I trust the Republicans more than I trust Barack Obama and you. That kind of gives you an idea of just how odious he and you really are.
Thanks so much for posting this. I sent an e-mail messages to all of them, and expressed my views about how cynical and hypocrat they are. Now that they need our votes, they are talking about women’s rights. How about Hillary’s right? that was violated barbaricly by these Dems and media?
They have no shame, to me they are political whores.
Obama says no to special interests? ha! Check this from his Illinois days:
http://www.query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_rcvd/C00381442/
Now that lobbying is so tightly regulated, there are reams of records online for the searching! It’s fun to play connect the dots with Obama’s finances….
http://www.michellemalkin.com/2008/06/19/the-obamapooh-photoshop-collection/
FUNNY –funny pics of obama as pooh bear -
Thank you Sonya for this information! I am so glad to see someone is ready for action instead of just talk. We women really know what is going on, right? We’ve heard all the promises and scare tactics before, Roe v. Wade, ERA, more opportunities, etc. etc. But in reality, even since 2006, none of any of these Democrat men or women have really done much to benefit our issues significantly. It is ONLY AROUND ELECTION TIME when Roe v. Wade and/or women’s issues are even mentioned. So, I am voicing my opposition in their coup by not voting Dem this year. Not because I’m bitter, but because I’m better! I’d rather vote for more money in my pocket to do what I want. Instead of higher taxes bankrolling the obots socialist agenda. Let’s keep pressuring and calling out these faux followers, in Congress or otherwise, and then celebrate in November! Cheers!
This panel would have had more credibility if it has included Stephanie Tubbs-Jones or Sheila Jackson Lee. The antebellum flirting going on totally negated the words of the giggling girls.
Senators; this isn’t a fan club and you weren’t elected to be groupies. Reconcile your support of Obama with his support of Rezko all those years before he became a prime time player. Explain how you could support someone with more dirty laundry than George W. Bush before he cleaned up.
Do I think you affirmative action candidates really plan to do something about equal pay, the glass ceiling or think any woman candidate has a chance in heck of getting elected president for the next 50 years? Sure, about as much chance as your getting George W. Bush impeached in 06.
You can evaluate their real interest in issues like equal pay, etc, by how much Nancy Pelosi’s Congressional majority worked to address those issues.
NOT AT ALL.
So there you have it. They’re playing like they care about those issues without having ever done anything about them.
I’m not as stupid or as gullible as they think I am.
Besides, most women aren’t even WATCHING MSNBC anymore. Stupid choice of media to make their case.
I am still a hard core hillary supporter who will vote for McCAIN , but need to chime in here on the ladies list. 1st where’s our girl nancy pelosi, chicken sh#$? on this hmm………
Now I want to defend Barbara Mikulski, she is one of the most up standing dem
senators this country has! She probably is afraid of massive backlash or has an invisible gun to her head, I know how hard she worked for Hillary. I have known her from my family, where she helped my dad with his VA benefits, she is admirable, I know her as a customer from my restaurant, who cares about people,food safety , organic farming and more, so please don’t knock her there must be more to this story, if you look at hillary’s speech video pics the day she suspended, there was Mikulski by her side! It just sucks she probably was knuckled to join. None the less, its this simple folks WE DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE LADIES, WE HAVE MINDS OF OUR OWN, BUT I WILL SAY IT MUST BE A CAMPAIGN OF DESPERATION BY THE OBAMA CAMP TO RAKE US LADIES IN. BUT AGAIN WE DON’T HAVE TO AND WE WON’T!
Mikulski didn’t get to say much, Boxer and McCaskill did most of
gigglingtalking. And I did think she looked like she felt a little out of place; like she didn’t quite belong.baltochef — Obama cannot apologize so he sends everyone out to get him elected. His wife is right — OBAMA IS PATHETIC.
I see we have the Mentally challenged wing of the Obamabots cruising our site again today. My God are these people that fucked up on the Kool-Aid or are we actually breeding this species here in America?
They don’t know who Ayers is…..They have no clue what Obama didnt do In Illinois…They cling to the Hopey Changey boat even as they are downing in Obama’s lies! Unfraken believable.
Yes lies….added to more Lies…..
FLIP FLOP!!!! Obama LIES. Yes LIES. And he is totally unashamed of doing it. He will tell you he does in so many words…..
Like in the latest Fortune Magazine article where he explains what he really thinks about NAFTA.
Totally contradicts what he told the voter’s of WI, OH, PA etc. And completely mirrors verbatim the accusations the Canadians told MSM his aides said about his remarks on NAFTA back in the spring of this year: (below described by John Nichols of The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/330911#comments)
“Obama’s interview with Fortune magazine — headlined “Obama: NAFTA Not So Bad After All” — is the best news the McCain camp has received since Mike Huckabee folded his run for the Republican nomination.
If Obama takes the economic issue that white working-class voters best understand off the table, he creates a huge opening for McCain in states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
And that is precisely what the Democrat cynically dismisses his appropriately anti-NAFTA rhetoric during the primary season as “overheated and amplified.”
In her interview with the candidate, Fortune’s Nina Easton reminded Obama that earlier this year he had called NAFTA “devastating” and “a big mistake” and suggested that he would use an opt-out clause in the trade agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico to demand changes that would be more favorable to workers and farmers in all three countries.
Obama replied that, “Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified” — which would have been enough of an indication that he was backing off the stance that contributed significantly to his success in the February 19 Wisconsin primary that proved to be a critical turning point for his campaign.
But the presumptive Democratic nominee for president dug the hole deeper.
“Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don’t exempt myself,” he continued, suggesting that those who doubted his sincerity when he denounced NAFTA in a speech to Janesville, Wisconsin, autoworkers might have been right. ”
So yes…Obama Lies….he knows what he’s saying is NOT where he stands, but he’s saying it anyway….that’s a LIE….and he is NOT ASHAMED OF DOING IT.
That IS “Audacious”!!!
WAKE UP People! How do you know what he’s telling you he’s for and going to do is IN FACT what he will be for or what he will do in office.
VOTE AT YOUR OWN RISK FOR OBAMA!
Yes. He ADMITTED that he had demagogued the issue of NAFTA just to win the primaries.
Never meant a thing he said to Ohio, Michigan, or Pensylvania.
It’s what politicians do, he says.
Rev. Wright was right about Obama.
Senator Barbara Mikulski, Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)
WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHEN A REAL WOMAN….HILLARY…IN A REAL LIVE SITUATION….
WAS GETTING F’D OVER BY THE MALE ESTABLISHMENT??????
Shove you checklist up your A$$!!
Hey Stevie boy,
Give me a break(like you stupid remarks)..Roe V Wade WAS NOT OVERTURNED DURING PERIODS OF TIME WHEN THE REPUB’s CONTROLLED EVERYTHING, they are not going to take away the right to choose…use your brain.
Women are not dumb, we are paying attention.
The R’s can say they want to discourage abortion, but there will ALWAYS be abortion on demand here in the USA..count on it.
The NARAL endorsement of Obama instead of Hillary when she was as faithful to the cause during it’s INCEPTION in the 70’s smacks of high treason, and believe me NARAL WIIL NOT GET ANY MONEY FROM ME NEXT TIME THEY CALL..and I urge other women to consider taking them out from under your christmas or Hannakkah tree this year.
It is posts by men like Steve that really let me know that Obama is a real con man. Please BO don’t do me any favors!!
FORD I always hated that statement — THE AUDACITY OF HOPE. Obama should have said I’m a liar and I hope you don’t catch me.
Now that Obama is running against McCain he thinks he needs to out Republican him. The man stands for nothing and anyone who votes for him is braindead. As far as being a Rock Star — I think Obama is homely and boring. And when did a 47 year old man become a youth?
Thank you. He seems too self-conscious to be a rock star. He’s more like a televangelist. He learned how to talk like a preacherman.
hope do you notice how the cadence of Obama’s voice changes depending on his audience? First he plays the race card and that marginalizes him. Now he complains that the media thinks he is too black.
The problem for Obama is that he doesn’t know who he is. Sounds like he doesn’t know where he was born either.
look OB founds some cheerleaders! Isn’t that nice.
LOL–
Nancy Pelosi is trying to get more power for herself…good luck with that girlfriend…were you paying attention while these other women were screwing Hillary???
SHE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO WAFFLES,S ASS
Poll finds Americans know Michelle Obama more, like her less than Cindy McCain
During the 2000 presidential campaign, NBC reporter Lisa Myers sat in the living room of the Texas governor’s mansion and asked the leading Republican candidate’s wife, “Will you be more like Hillary Clinton or like Barbara Bush?”
And Laura Bush replied, “I think I’ll be more like Laura Bush.”
Her answer was dead-on for the spouse of any presidential candidate.
http://www.latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/mccain-obama-1.html
I agree Pelosi should be on the top of this list. All good points. I will be actively fundraising and trying to unseat as many as possible. Except the honorable Barbara Mikulski:) Friends, I am also very excited about the possiblity of a GOP VP-Governor Palin.
r u a republican ?not that it,s a bad thing –afterall we are all americans with same problems and same causes .I am just asking out od curiosity and on this blog LARRY welcomes everyone not like DAILYKOS HATE SITE —
I am a puma -democrat who supports hillary and mccain .
Most here are Dems
Uh…that would be pissed off dems.
I doubt it will be Palin. She must have hired bloggers, because no Independents or republicans are that excited about her. I’ve never seen her on one of McCain’s short lists. She’s great, but this is her first term after being Mayor of Wasalia, and she’s pregnant with her fifth child. Alaska is always red. She supports drilling in ANWR and differs from McCain too much for me to ever see it being a strong working relationship. I think it will be Gov. Tim Pawlenty, and he would be perfect. Gov. Sarah Palin has a bright future, though.
Ahh, just checking in to see how that UNITY thing is going. Hmm, so the driver took a long vacation and car is still in the garage. Uh huh.
Good luck with that, Barack Hussein.
Too little, too late.
THEY are the reason, due to their unwillingess to speak up sooner, that I have left the Democratic Party FOREVER.
Talk to the hand, ladies. You too, Pelosi.
Please phone these leaders and tell them if they really care about the concerns of women they should stand up and endorse Hillary Clinton. If they care about equal rights and equal treatment that they should stand up against sexism in the Democratic party. If they care about women’s rights they should investigate the treatment of Hillary Clinton by the media. If they care about reforming healthcare, they should help Hillary Clinton get into the White House. If they care about keeping jobs in America, they should not be endorsing the guy that once again has flip-flopped on NAFTA.
Specifically ask Senator McCaskill “Why, after accepting approximately $500,000 from Emily’s List did you feel no obligation to back the more qualified female candidate for President?”
Sen. Klobuchar accepted roughly $300,000 from Emily’s List. Why didn’t she endorse Hillary?
Sen. Boxer was mum during this whole primary season. Why the sudden concern about women’s issues now? Senator Boxer launched an investigation into the horrific treatment of the Dixie Chicks after one of them publicly criticized Bush. Where is that outrage about the treatment Hillary has received? Where is the investigation?
NOT ONE OF THEM called out the media for the sexism!
Here is a video Link. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/womens-checklist-for-change/1547201665
1. Senator Klobuchar
1200 Washington Avenue South, Suite 250
Minneapolis, MN 55415
Main Line: 612-727-5220
2. Senator McCaskill,St. Louis
5850 A Delmar Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63112
Phone:314-367-1364
3. Senator Debbie Stabenow
221 W. Lake Lansing Road, Suite 100
East Lansing, MI 48823
Phone: (517) 203-1760
4. Senator Mikulski
503 Hart Office Building, Washington D.C., 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4654
5. Senator Mary Landrieu
Washington, DC
Voice: (202)224-5824
6. Senator Boxer
Washington, D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553
Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
7. Senator Stabenow
2988 Jackson Federal Building
915 2nd Avenue
Seattle, Washington 98174
Phone: (206) 553-5545
“Ex-Clinton Cabinet Officials to Advise Obama on Foreign Policy
In other campaign news, Barack Obama has announced the formation of his Senior Working Group on National Security. The group features several former cabinet officials from the Clinton administration, including former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher, former National Security Adviser Tony Lake, and Clinton’s Defense Secretary William Perry. Other members of Obama’s advisory board include two members of the 9/11 Commission: Lee Hamilton and Tim Roemer.”
I think Clinton is wielding great power to get her voice in that oval office (if he is going to steal the election anyway).
He knows she is a senate force to be reckoned with. I actually see the subject of this article in the same way. Many of these women are still Hillary supporters and will continue to support her bills.
Senator Barbara Mikulski joined Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.
I SEE YOU HAVE ALL DRANK THE KOOL-AID. YOU ARE ALL A DISGRACE TO AMERICAN WOMEN, WOMEN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
YOU ALL STOOD BY AND SAID NOTHING, I REPEAT, NOTHING WHEN THE MEDIA, PRESS, DNC AND OBAMA TREATED HILLARY WITH SUCH HUMILIATING DISGUST. THEY PORTRAYED HER HAS THE MOST VILE HUMAN BEING.
UNFORGETABLE AND UNFORGIVABLE.
NOW, I REPEAT, NOW YOU ARE COMING OUT AND STANDING UP FOR WOMEN’S RIGHT.
WHY NOW.
THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
YOU THINK THAT IF YOU COME ON THE BIASED NEWS NETWORKS, WHO HAVE TRASHED HILLARY,AND SAY A FEW WORDS TO SUPPORT WOMENS RIGHTS, THAT WE WILL GET ON THE OBAMA BUS.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET
WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE
WAKE UP AMERICA
JUST SAY NO DEAL
PUMA
NOBAMA NOW OR EVER
The DNC MUST be punished in this election, especially the leadership of Coward Dean….. As for Nancy, I can’t even say her name with throwing up….. The entire DNC leadership makes sick…..
It won’t do any good to contact McCaskill. She came out early in support of Obama.
SAVE IT …..SHE STILL COULD HAVE CONDEMMD THE VILLIFICATIN OF HILLARY…
Like I said, McCaskill came out early in support of Obama. There’s no point in contacting her.
They would have done a lot for women by offering Dick Cheney and his sock puppet Dubya some opposition on their trillion dollar clusterfuck, on energy, or …. the list goes on and on ….
A sound economy, not froth, not bubbles, is the number one women’s issue.
There is a shitstorm on the horizon, but these xxxxxs [supply misogynistic epithet of you choice] are prinking the curtains and passing it off as policy.
And they imagine that this snotty little mannikin (with the melanin that makes him NEW! DIFFERENT! EXCITING!) is some sort of solution.
What’s really worrying – I think some of them are not playing at realpolitik, some of them may actually believe.
Mes fesses!
C’mon… I’m PUMA big time! I just like action…and I am absolutely pro-womyn. So much that I am writing, calling and forwarding these party followers .. to express my disappointment in their lame ploy for unity and women schtick. But if I have to vote GOP this year, I would certainly be excited to hear more from Gov. Palin. Remember what we are here for… increasing our voices so that we can be heard. And supporting our own!
MCCASKILL: “My kids told me to do what I believed in instead of what was politically safe.”
Thanks, McCaskill. Thanks a lot. In my neighborhood Hillary was not politically safe but she’s what I believed in.
http://www.obama-wire.com
No Obammy EVER!
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Make sure you never hire people you suspect of being an Obama supporter. It will make the work place a better place. You will reduce the chances of frivolous lawsuits and increase productivity. Check their car for all those bumperstickers they like so much. The entitlement mentality is easy to identify in casual conversation.
Make sure your work place is free of anti-American, anti-business, pro Obama leftists.
Thanks and have a great day.
Crissakes, it’s not simply a pander. They lifted Hillary’s entire agenda and claimed it as their own. I wrote about it on Alegre’s corner.
I saw it. Great post.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=115883
The DNC is just giving it to women..CHICAGO STYLE….deep dish bull shit, with a side of HOT peppers.
But, they will be SO shocked when we JUST SAY NO.