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Paula Abeles on Neil Cavuto Today

Paula Abeles described to Neil Cavuto, on his Wednesday show, the kind of threatening treatment she has received from Obama supporters. Thank god that law enforcement is now very involved in tracking down these perpetrators – and it’s quite easy given the trail they’ve left behind. (They think they’re clever, but we have our means of discovering exactly who they are. They don’t know that some of us are longtime ‘net users who know how to find those who abuse their privileges on the Internet.) Unlike them, we won’t out them on the Internet, but we are providing all information, with full details, to law enforcement. MOST SHOCKING is how little the Obama campaign takes action to handle these thugs themselves. That speaks volumes about the campaign’s tactics. It says even more that Obama attracts such vile people:

Great, great job, Paula!

Thanks to V for posting Paula’s video at the No Quarter channel at YouTube.

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Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 00:25:57

She sounded very informed and determined. Good job Paula.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:26:34

I especially appreciated her determination. She beamed at the conclusion, and I can only imagine McCain has reassured these women and made them feel good about going across the aisle. I like how Cavuto constantly puts these women for McCain on the defensive. Always the same talking points, too. “She ripped John McCain to shreds throughout the primary much more than she did Obama.” No kidding! But national security is the best reason to vote against Obama. In the end, that’s what he is running on. “Restoring our credibility in the world.” By hanging out with terrorists and going back and forth on positions? You can imagine how this could cause problems in our diplomatic relationships, as well. I was just reliving Madeleine Albright as the Sec. of State and the Middle East and Rwanda… please God, don’t let this guy get elected. Look at the scum he attracts. Calling women and threatening the lives of her and her children. Stay tough, Paula! Great job.

Comment by standard | 2008-06-20 05:45:46

The threats are no surprise to Clinton supporters
who are blog savvy.

Watching our democratic blogs being bought out by
Obama and transformed into Nazi style Hate machines
was chilling.

Comment by Bigtime | 2008-06-20 06:19:43

Amen!!!!
Shocking, vile, repulsive and disheartening are some words I have also used to describe the transformation from “media watchdog/new media” to hate sites.

Another Democrat for McCain !!!!!!

Comment by Nicole | 2008-06-20 08:20:49

Hey, everyone, check out this youtube video of an Obama supporter–via BytheFault–who’s beginning to the light.

http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:05:48

That was a great video. I give it 5 stars and 92 thumbs up! :P Btw, if the ratings on Youtube were not being fudged, that is even scarier.

Comment by coathangrrr | 2008-06-20 09:24:28

Yeah! Let’s support a woman who’s a blatant racist.

Here come the denials, I’m sure.

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-06-20 10:22:15

I won’t bother clicking on any link posted by anyone who’s such a scumbag they have the username “coathangrrr,” but since you said it was a woman who’s a blatant racist, I presume it’s a picture of Michelle Obama.

 

Comment by grtphoto | 2008-06-20 11:57:15

i am so sick of the trite racist slur, so to play your game, all of us “racists” are only half racist, since o is half caucasian half afican…

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 15:02:30

coat — there are millions of us Hillary supporters going over to McCain and its not because we’re racists — its because we love this country and we want to keep it a Democracy.

 

Comment by KidnPlay | 2008-06-20 17:04:11

coathangrr

That’s not a very nice thing to say about Michelle Obama.

Ok, you convinced me. Michelle is a racist.

 
 
 

Comment by jacquerie | 2008-06-20 11:04:16

Video link posted by Nicole absolutely brought tears to my eyes. A soft-spoken idealistic twenty something guy explores and explains his increasing disenchantment with obama - even though he previously contributed to his campaign.

MUST SEE VIDEO:
http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/

A portion of this young voter’s comments:
“Some evidence you tube videos are being manipulated by the obama campaign… I think my voting for him is less and less likely… tone of comment threads (show) cynicism, misinformation, even paranoia..”

Savvy young man recommends a book, “The Great Derangement”. I’m ordering it today. Says it’s about the far left and far right. I, too , have thought much of this obama action is feeding on a cumulative reaction in attempt to balance far right damage associated with Bush. Problem is extremism isn’t the answer when seeking new balance. It’s only a swinging pendulum, ala Edgar Allen Poe- it carries a VERY sharp blade.

In perspective, as much as I see the damage instigated by political manipulation of the far right, It looks rather evident the far left has potential to more than multiply the extent of destruction - to our country and the world - were bozo to win this campaign.

 
 
 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 15:00:42

hope floats — the fact that Cavuto has these women on and shows how articulate they are gives us some insight into how fractured the Obama Campaign is. Kudos to Cavuto. Keep up the good work.

 
 

Comment by Texas Voter | 2008-06-20 07:07:26

Paula Abeles was great this morning on “Fox and Friends”. I registered with “Clintons4McCain” and “Just Say No Deal” 3 days after Senator Clinton suspended her campaign. There are alot more of us out here than the Polls indicate. I am proud to support Senator Clinton and now Senator McCain. Thank you, Texas Voter

 

Comment by dms | 2008-06-20 08:41:38

Interesting that Neil interviews a Clinton supporter almost every day now. I think he is asking fair and balanced questions and the people are responding pretty well. He’s even surprised by their answers. I can’t believe I am saying good things about the FOX network. Am I losing it.

Comment by Susaninbosque | 2008-06-20 10:59:36

I think you are not losing it at all. We are all just coming to realization of what has happened in this country to the Democratic Party that we believed existed. I truly believed in the Dem Party for the last 40 years - really believed but facts are clearly facts.

I have to support Fox News for being actually “fair and balanced.”

I have to abandon the DNC for its treachery.

I do whatever I can to keep Obama from getting close to the WH.

And I have to continue to send 3 emails a day to Hillary at her web site about staying away from Obama until there is reason to believe that it no longer matters and she has made choices that I can’t support.

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 15:06:29

susan — if you are losing it then I am too — Fox has been doing the only balanced news coverage out there. God Bless Them.

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 16:10:45

dms–all these Clinton supporters are well dressed and well spoken. God bless them all. I know I put in hundreds of hours — phone banking and setting up house parties for Senator Clinton. I attended every event and I was never so proud to support a candidate in my life. What I did not expect was a coordinated effort by the media and the DNC to destroy her candidacy. As a third generation Democrat whose parents grew up during the Depression — they taught me that the Democratic Party was the people’s party and how sad it was to find out that the party of the people no longer wanted people like me. So the DNC shafted Hillary and told its base to stay home–now they don’t know why we won’t stand with them while they go over a cliff for Barack Obama.

 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 14:57:54

harp — Paula was very articulate and she says everything that so many of us are feeling right now. Obama calls for Unity and his henchmen make 40-50 threatening calls to this lovely woman. I am a member of the Harriet Christian Democrats and will comfortably vote for McCain. Its not a matter of the issues — its about principles. McCain has them — Obama doesn’t.

 
 

Comment by Lil' Mike | 2008-06-20 00:27:19

The Obama campaign and Bush are carbon copies. A leader with a messianic complex poses as above the fray meanwhile his thugs work to batter anyone who dissents from the official line.

 

Comment by Lyn | 2008-06-20 00:27:55

Susan, have you gotten any emails from me today? I’m having trouble emailing you

 

Comment by NoToDisenfranchisement | 2008-06-20 00:30:56

fantastic, Paula. She stayed focus. And always had a good answer to anything Cavuto would throw at her.

I wish many of the representatives, especially those who are african american, who supported Clinton would talk about the death-threats from Obama supporters. I also hope the physical intimidation of Clinton supporters by Obama people also comes out. And I hope the internet thuggishness, including revealing identities, that the Obama supporters cause are also unearthed.

This is a persistent pattern of thuggishness by Obama supporters is one major reason I will not vote for him.

Comment by C.S. | 2008-06-20 08:45:40

No question that this is intimidation or that we’ve crossed another threshold. Terrorists threaten families. In a Democracy members of a political faction do not threaten harm to the families of those who disagree with them. It is frightening that one man’s faithful would do so before he even has the official stamp of the Democratic party.

Over 8 years we have watched Bush’s power, and by extension the power of his faithful, grow exponentially. Imagine what could happen if the autocratic power of the Bush presidency passed to Obama when Obama can’t control his followers or he doesn’t care enough to stop them. Either way, it makes him a poor leader and We the People at risk of “absolute power corrupting absolutely”.

And we all know where unchecked petty power leads; history is replete with examples. I believe Obama mentioned one of them in a antidote about an uncle.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 08:48:13

Well, they did to Ambassador Wilson’s family and Democrats were outraged, no? But doing that for oblowme? Apparently, when we (well, as a new unaffiliated, I guess I am not in the “we” any more) do it, its all for hopey changey, okey dokey?

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 16:14:49

beebop — the other day Obama said he doesn’t need voters he needs checks. That statement alone should have created a media firestorm.

 
 

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-06-20 10:38:44

I have thought Bush to be really overreaching with some of the Executive Orders he has signed giving himself the right to declare himself supreme ruler of this country, but Obama is much more likely to act on such an Order. If he is ever able to be elected or steal the election in the GE as he did the nomination, it would not surprise me to see him then start some Chavez-like machinations to become dictator for life.

 
 
 

Comment by OBAMATROLLSAREIDIOTS | 2008-06-20 00:31:15

Obama trolls are thugs. Now they are calling and threatening people at their homes. What is going to happen when he loses in November?

The scab is being pulled off of the “constant sore” (oh, yeah, that was what he called Israel) of the Obama campaign.

JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY

NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 02:03:33

The Super delegates and DNC have always been scared about what would happen in Denver if they didn’t back Obama
In fact that is why they gave it to Obama despite being clearly the weaker candidate.
Threats of riots.
This is called thug politics.Intimidation like during Hitlers Germany.

What the SD & DNC have not thought about is what happens if He loses in November.
More Riots!!!

Comment by standard | 2008-06-20 06:12:37

I don’t think there will be riots if he loses the GE, but
they will say that it’s because America is racist.
Not because DNC appointed a weak, inexperienced
guy who ran the most destructive campaign in my
lifetime.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:19:49

There will be a need to put the blame somewhere. Heaven knows that they won’t come to grips with the fact that they selected the least likely person to win. If they put Nunn or Edwards on the ticket in the VP role, what are they in fact saying? Politics of the past — more white men — if you ask me.

 

Comment by Florence | 2008-06-20 07:25:30

I agree. What a destructive campaign. Poor Paulie. Getting all those threats.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:15:26

The Democratic primaries this year, once it was just Hillary and Obama in the race, were like an episode of Jackass with guest stars Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Donna Brazille. “This is the NAFTA trick. We’re gonna wait outside in the Wal-Mart parking lot and ambush Hillary when she comes out of the store. We have a tazer, some tube socks with bars of soap in them, a bucket of cold water and a roll of duct tape. Awesome! Here she comes.”

 

Comment by realist | 2008-06-21 16:50:05

I thought the cry of “racism” to silence critics of black spokeman was sounding hollow thirty years ago, and it remains the last refuge of scoundrels. So bring it on, Obamadummies.

 
 

Comment by Betty | 2008-06-20 07:41:16

I don’t think the DNC was scared of riots in Denver, I think they allowed the threat for what ever reasons, to encourage bullying? They are betraying the city of Denver just as they betrayed Hillary and us.

Same as the DNC never stepped in to stop the vicious attacks on Hillary, they never stepped in to announce that the Colorado police and National Guard will use “any means necessary” to defend Denver, its residents, visitors and infrastructure, up to and including deadly force.

A strong statement like that would have given those little R68 wet-dreamers a taste of the crap cannon with out even leaving their Ma’s house.

Lets all announce we are going to go to Denver to demand a roll call vote which includes all candidates and if we don’t get it we are going to riot. Then wait and see how long it takes Howard Dean to get his — on TV and tell us all how our behavior won’t be tolerated. Maybe even remind us we are all American citizens.

Comment by fran | 2008-06-20 07:48:19

Good point Betty. I thought the same thing when Donna B & Co. was talking about “blood in the streets in Denver.” How incredibly irresponsible and unprofessional. She did not follow that fear card with a statement of condemnation, she just put the threat out there. As a DNC member, she could have strongly rejected that thinking and behavior and instead, she advertised for them.

Comment by sowsear | 2008-06-20 10:07:34

Well, if your leader says, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun” what do you think is going to happen?

 
 

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-06-20 10:53:41

I don’t think the DNC was scared of riots in Denver, I think they allowed the threat for what ever reasons, to encourage bullying?

I think you’re right. A few months ago, when I still thought the DNC might listen to reason and allow the more qualified candidate to have a fair chance at the nomination, I thought Dean, Brazile, Kerry, Kennedy, et al., were just being their usual cowardly selves and caving in to these threats. Now that we have found out the timeline for the leases entered into in preparation for moving the DNC to Chicago and the little farce of scheduling the nominee’s speech on the MLK speech anniversary date, I realize we have just all been hookwinked and bamboozled. This entire nomination process has been a sham, and the threats were designed to try to scare us into submission. Too bad for Obama that all they did was drive us out of the party and, my family at least, into the McCain camp.

 
 

Comment by C.S. | 2008-06-20 09:37:14

We Americans have never backed away from a fight because of fear. One of our greatest and longest serving presidents put it sussicently, “The only thing to fear is fear itself.” This nation has been running on FEAR for 8 years now and we don’t need 4 more.

In 240+ years we have stood up to the “the Empire the sun never sets on”, routed the French from Washington D. C. after they set fire to our capitol, beat both the Japanese and Nazi Germany, took down McCarthyism, confronted nuclear war and won, staked our claim to the moon and survived terrorists attacks on our financial industry and capitol - why are we afraid of what Obama and his followers might do if he doesn’t get his way?

These women thwarting Obama are the daughters and granddaughters of those women who built the war machine that beat the Japanese and Nazis. Does Mr. and Mrs. Obama believe that they can come from nowhere and intimidate these women whose mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers are living proof of their determination and will? Do his followers believe they won’t fight back? Don’t they realize that Senator Clinton and her supporters are made of sterner stuff? Not only will they fight back but they will WIN.

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 16:21:11

cs — your comment brought tears to my eyes. My parents were part of that greatest generation. No matter what life dealt them — they kept on going. As a boomer I never admit defeat either. God bless you. In the words of Winston Churchill — this is not the end — it is not even the beginning of the end — but it is the end of the beginning. (1942)

 
 
 
 

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 00:33:46

Susan, I saw yesterday they were threatening you. We’re you able to do anything about it?

 

Comment by okie/paul | 2008-06-20 00:36:35

These thugs are being incouraged by obama by comments like they bring knives we will bring guns. and obama is not a liberal he is socialist/marxist.

Comment by The Real Hope | 2008-06-20 01:10:06

He’s a turnip with a thin skin.

 

Comment by Kevin | 2008-06-20 06:14:02

And he got that from the Untouchables

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 06:36:03

Does the man have any original thoughts? That line was spoken by Sean Connery. I knew that I recognized it.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 08:38:04

Obama thinks he will be the new Elliot Mess (typo intentional), but he’s really just another Chicago Al Capone.

 
 
 
 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 00:38:17

Thank you!

Man, I wish I could call her and say, “Thank You!”

She spoke for me. 100%.

A BINGO interview.

Also, I’m very glad to hear that Obama got our messages from today’s hideous stalking post.

This issue needs to be addressed and addressed directly.

We heard the same from AA Hillary supporters. Now it’s us who are being threatened.

This is not acceptable.

Hacking sites is not acceptable.

This should be addressed legally. Stopped.

And prosecuted.

Comment by wry | 2008-06-20 00:53:44

she did do a good job didn’t she? Isn’t she the face of us Hillary Clinton supporters? A typical white woman.
WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR BARKY.

Comment by Bigtime | 2008-06-20 06:29:26

It is not only women that support Hillary and will not vote for B. Hussein Obama. What are we men, chopped liver? :)

Another Democrat for McCain !!!!!!

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 08:49:25

I think there are almost as many men but the media likes people to think it is ANGRY women not voting for precious.

Comment by dee4hill | 2008-06-20 11:19:17

I saw a poll just the other day, Yahoo News, that said white males are tipping towards McCain… which I knew they would if it came down between Obamesiah and a true, American hero. No contest whatsoever.

Hillary or McCain ‘08!

 
 
 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:02:45

Great job Paula! You are very impressive. Thank You.I was threatened back in early February with phone tapped and Computer Hijacked… It was unnerving. I was one of the first to unleash all the dirt about Obama. I don’t believe they will let up.
The Obamas like to portray a public face but their fascist beliefs are held in secret. Clearly, America doesn’t need Barky to make policies.
Remember how nervous we all were after 9/11. Well that’s how we would be if he ever stole the whitehouse. If you think we have enemies now, we would be more despised by the world if Barky got behind the wheel. Quite frankly, Barky started something that he has no idea what he’s doing.
His side-kick arrogant dean is not helping out much either. He is putting some bad ideas in Barky’s head.
Now the latest story is that Clyburn has used government funds for his families personal use and gain. They are all crooks who selected a crooked nominee in order to continue with their dishonesty and crookedness and use of taxpayer money for their own personal gain. It’s Greed that motivates the whole bunch of them and not the need to “make policy” like they portray.

It’s high time we all come together and fight the threats received from Barky and his supporters.

And hijacking a website is to me like breaking and entering someones home. A website is personal property and just because a person can break into it doesn’t make it right. There is a line that has been crossed over and over and Barky knows it. He is the one who lectures about that line that can be crossed.
We will not forget!

March across USA in protest of Barky.
Details are out there so ask. It won’t be posted by me.
P.U.M.A

Comment by jmk | 2008-06-20 12:24:09

Glad to hear LOU above come out with his story I’ve been investigated a CORE aspect of the underlying dangers of the obama story. Not yet published. But discovered my computer is somehow hacked, Vital emails don’t get through. Replies get “Server Rejected”. My phone has been tapped and I have received, also, intimidating phone calls - ONLY AFTER I’ve been surfing this particular research and/or corresponding on this ONE topic via email.

Became obvious I was watched and targeting - and that they want me to know it. Tried spyware stuff but was told by a hacker what’s happened here has something done differently - not covered by that.

Suspect it relates to my SINGLE provider of high speed internet, cable and phone - ALL. KNOW for sure this has been happening but didn’t want to mention it - until Lou above was candid enough to share his experience.

Tried to trace the # calling me and found out it is an FLA business listed 800 line. Also found out in online groups that other people have gotten these same strange calls - as far back as last October, from this # but never before that. Am currently researching the business who holds that # to see what turns up.

Lastly, I know there are some state laws re internet harrassment, etc. but don’t know if there are any Federal laws yet on this. Does anyone else know? If there are we should certainly FILE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT - wouldn’t that be some nice press for barry and camp!

 
 
 

Comment by Colin | 2008-06-20 00:38:31

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfeSNNRYIfM

Comment by Joe | 2008-06-20 01:06:06

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:08:07

Colin comments here regularly.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 05:56:42

Who/what is Colin? Didn’t heshe get the memo that Gore backs Obama?

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-06-20 11:10:23

He’s pointing out what a hypocrite Gore is. And his user name links to a Joe Lieberman Democrats for John McCain page. And the youtube video he linked to is one from the Michigan Republican Party that had some more stupid, condescending remarks from Obama that every voter should hear and think about. From all of that, I would guess he’s either a Democrat for McCain or a Republican for McCain, or perhaps like me an Independent for McCain.

You should watch the video. It gets a little snarky about old geography-major Obama’s inability to know where he is at any given moment. I’m not sure if the “we’re the one with the thumb” comment was a snide reference to his giving Hillary the finger or not, but I’m going to think of it in that way.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:06:43

His carbon footprint is bigger than Godzilla’s. Gore is bigger than Godzilla now that I think of it.

GOREZILLA

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:15:34

Gore is like Obama. It’s OK how much energy they use it’s us little people that need to conserve.

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:17:27

I don’t throw Gore away just because he endorsed Obama.

He’s obviously a Dem. He did the minimal to me.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:30:34

Kind of a sell-out that he didn’t support the Dem who won the popular vote or stand up for FL.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:34:49

Agreed Hope no offense Ann but I’m throwing everyone away that supports Obama even if I have to vote a straight Republican ticket.

Comment by Bigtime | 2008-06-20 06:42:29

Al disappointed me, I just knew He would say something about disenfranchising voters and reallocation of votes cast in a fully legal and sanctioned election. Not a peep, elected Democrats are spineless and maybe not following ethical or moral principles that I thought the democratic Party was founded upon.

Another Democrat for McCain !!!!!!

Comment by fran | 2008-06-20 07:55:02

That’s the point Paula was making that Cavuto can’t grasp. It is not just about the policies, stupid! McCain seems to have a core, some integrity. I am not saying he is faultless, but he has had the courage to buck the trends and take a lot of heat for it. That is what leadership requires. Name one instance in which Obama took an unpopular but principled stand. And PLEASE do not say his “speech against the war,” because that, too, was pandering in a liberal Chicago suburb. He didn’t protest or actively work against the invasion AT ALL, and voted straight party line in the Senate. Name one.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 08:46:19

Well, he supported the unpopular Bush/Chaney Energy Bill, and that did appear to reflect his true principles, but I sure as hell would not want that on my resume.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 06:46:44

If Gore had supported Hillary early in the primary season, he might have been able to help her, but he sat on the sidelines and did nothing. IMHO, he should’ve stayed on the sidelines. He said in an interview with 60 Minutes that he didn’t want to get involved in politics this year, so that leads me to believe that he probably supported Obama all along.

Comment by dee4hill | 2008-06-20 11:26:22

Exactly. There were alot of cowards in the Senate that waited till the DNC “selected” Obambi… mine for one, Mary Landrieu in La. Then she jumped onboard, too. I knew she wouldn’t stand up for anyone until the last minute. These people roll with the flow to keep their asses covered. Unbeknownst to them though, all it does is speak volumes about their character - or lack thereof.

Gore is in the same category to me. Cowardly hypocrite.

Hillary or McCain ‘08!

Comment by Mary | 2008-06-20 12:27:40

I would have liked to have seen Tipper Gore or Elizabeth Edwards stand AGAINST the sexism and blatant hatred.

Neither one of them did.

Neither did Nancy Pelosi, who just gave the Bush administration telecom immunity.

What a total MESS the Democratic Party is this year.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 01:34:57

There are two types of Obama supporters.
The ones that supported him before Hillary suspended her campaign and thus displayed limited judgment and were in on the fix.
The rest including Hillary who are supporting (rather lackluster)for the good of the party.

All those that were in on the fix need to be defeated!
I can forgive the rest.

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:40:31

Ditto here. I had dinner with my Hillary supporter who really can’t vote for McCain due to abortion. It’s a point of pride.

I just enjoyed her company and didn’t even try to argue. I think her heart is in the right place. I think it’s tacky to try to shame someone out of their convictions unless I sense the person is just plain disrespectful and contentious.

Comment by Tattie | 2008-06-20 07:13:23

TELL YOUR FREIND THAT SHE HAS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AS FAR AS ROE V WADE. BUSH HAD COMPLELE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT IN HIS 1ST TERM EVEN THE SUPREME COURT AND ROE V WADE STAYED IN TACT. THIS ISSUE IS A CASH COW FOR BOTH PARTIES AND THAT IS TO KEEP WOMEN IN LINE AND KEEP GETTING THEIR DONATIONS.

Comment by DAB | 2008-06-20 09:04:29

I agree. They have used it as a Sword of Damocles for a long time now. With a likely strong Dem Congress, I don’t see anything to worry about here. Besides McCain gives lip service to an Anti-Roe stance but has never lifted a finger to defeat it and is in no way a crusader to overturn it.

 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 15:10:20

annin — Roe v Wade isn’t going anywhere. Its too good of an issue for the parties to fight about.

 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:11:00

go to democrat.com for a list of who was in on the fix prior to June 4.

 
 

Comment by Linda K | 2008-06-20 02:22:52

Al Gore is still upset with the Clintons, but he has been a good public servant and there’s no point in trashing him. He, like Bill and Hillary, have made huge contributions to society. As for his energy use, he has modernized his house and his energy bill has gone down. Not as much as even he would like, but down a great deal.

Comment by Bob Hayles | 2008-06-20 06:39:09

Yes he “modernized his house”, but no…his energy use didn’t go down…it increased by ten percent.

He’s hipocritical POS.

Bob

 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 05:57:58

He lost me when he didn’t speak up for voters. Where was the outrage? Or is that reserved for the Republicans ….

Comment by fran | 2008-06-20 08:00:56

Exactly. And then the RBC fiasco. Half the party should have coalesced to march to Denver with Hillary after that blatant violation of the Dem Party Charter. They just mangled fair reflection, on national TV no less, and after Ickes’ righteous responses, absolutely NOTHING was done or said. That was the final straw for me. The Party stands for nothing after that. They are behaving exactly like the Republicans in the name of “unity” and “what’s best for the country.” What’s best for the country is fighting for the principles upon which it was founded = Equal Representation.

 
 

Comment by Bella | 2008-06-20 06:50:12

Considering he said he was staying out of politics and not getting involved in this election…I’d say he didn’t have to do or say anything. He’s a sellout. Funny coming from the guy that won the popular vote and was shafted in Florida, non?

Comment by dee4hill | 2008-06-20 11:34:43

Gore is the ultimate sell out. He should have, out of common decency, kept his nose out of this one. I mean, what does that say… you’re VP endorses the other guy? These people are scum.

Also funny for a guy that was MADE by the Clintons. Who knew him? Bill Clinton can be credited for almost all of Al Gore’s success. Gore couldn’t even carry his own home state and probably wouldn’t have been re-elected since Tennessee is red.

I don’t know about you all, but in the South, loyalty says alot about character. Gore and Richardson can eat sh** and die as far as I’m concerned.

Hillary or McCain ‘08

 
 

Comment by alexei | 2008-06-20 09:27:28

I sure do. Because he threw the Environment out too. Obama voted for the Cheney energy bill, Obama backs nuclear power (if you look at the life cycle - it is not carbon neutral and uranium mining is an environmental disaster, let alone the waste disposal nightmare), he lied about passing that nuclear radiation leaks bill (after he allowed it to be watered down to a volunteer compliance), and he has done nothing but use words on other issues.

Gore should have backed the strongest candidate on the environment and global warming, Hillary Clinton. If he really cared about the issue and not his legacy (actually even if he cared about his legacy), he would have backed her from the beginning and gotten over any personal issues that he has with the Clintons. With his endorsement, the Clintons would be in his political debt. Obama doesn’t care and believes he doesn’t need anyone. Big political mistake for Gore.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by NoToDisenfranchisement | 2008-06-20 00:40:14

you know, I will give Fox credit - they are the only ones allowing us a platform to speak about the threats, intimidation that Obama supporters are using against us and have been throughout the primary.

CNN and the other liberal networks, fearful of casting any shadow on their Precious, don’t give us any opportunity to talk about these things. They just want to cover it up.

It’s stuff like this that makes me think a Republican administration might be fairer to us than the McCarthyism the Obama supporters will continue to wreak on anyone who disagrees with them.

Comment by JB | 2008-06-20 01:42:02

This is an excellent insight. Obama’s an authoritarian control freak. Dissent is a “distraction” and will not be permitted in Obamanation.

Those who are considering voting for this maniac solely on the basis of RvW or some such other emotional trigger are sadly missing the big picture.

He will silence the opposition — he does not appreciate disagreement. His Jonestown devotees will do the job, of course, but it will get done. He does not have a democratic bone in his body.

Without free speech, nothing else matters.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 02:43:03

Good comment, and I totally agree.

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-06-20 05:12:23

Look what happens to this website when the trolls invade — they are trying to take it over like they have done with so many others.

After watching the Obamabutts attack Susan whenever she wrote a positive diary about Hillary Clinton — not much that these creeps do is surprising.

Those of us who went to caucuses were “treated” to the Obama-thugs. Their behavior is what one expects from cult members — and that’s what they are — cult members.

Win or lose — the Obamabutts are going to be a problem and some will be dangerous. These people have a mean streak — and Obama has given them “permission” to act on their aggression. Generally in a civilized culture there is something called “self censorship” — where thugs may think about violence and blame everyone for their own failures — but generally these people don’t act on their aggressive impulses. However, Obama has opened Pandora’s box — and he’s encouraged the thugs by his own words and deeds. (Which the Obamabutts try to deny happened — even when we have the video proof and still photos of the passive aggressive behavior of Obama.)

The people voting for Obama because they believe that’s what it takes to head off violence are delusional. NOTHING is going to please the Obamabutts — not even full submission to their messiah will please them.

I will always remember the Obamabutt thugs in the caucus — shaking with rage during their hate speech about Hillary Clinton. She’s a tool of the Corporations — said one kid (maybe he was 16) — as he shook with rage and then he proceeded with his anti Clinton rant. NOT once did he tell us anything about Obama’s agenda or plans — he never gave us a concrete reason to vote for Obama.

It is this rage — that Obama is using. It could be that he believes the more people feel threatened will translate into votes for him??

Mrs Obama is correct– Mr. Obama is pathetic!

McCain (or Clinton) 08

Clinton 2012

Comment by fran | 2008-06-20 08:11:28

However, Obama has opened Pandora’s box — and he’s encouraged the thugs by his own words and deeds. (Which the Obamabutts try to deny happened — even when we have the video proof and still photos of the passive aggressive behavior of Obama.)

And then he comes forward, after the damage is done, and makes some lame public comment about “not supporting this kind of behavior.” That way, all his supporters can say, “See! He doesn’t have anything to do with it.” They did this over and over again. This week, an intelligent, liberal friend of mine who really liked Hillary, was contorting herself into the most ridiculous positions to defend and rationalize the many examples I gave of Obama’s weak and dishonest character. “But, but, but he wasn’t even IN the church that day!”

I just looked at her. How can any intelligent person possibly, with reason, believe these excuses? But they do. After 8 years of Bush, people are desperate for “hope” and “change.” I certainly understand that–we all are. But to willfully suspend all reason is pathological and dangerous (see GWB). That has been Axelrod’s plan all along, as Shelby Steele talks about. Obama remains an empty suit/blank slate so people can project whatever they want on to him. He’s JFK! RFK! MLK! It is frightening to witness, and makes it easier to understand the emergence of totalitarian regimes.

 

Comment by sowsear | 2008-06-20 10:14:02

She and her daughters also said he smells.
That’s why I calls’um BO.

 
 
 

Comment by Linda K | 2008-06-20 02:26:02

I don’t buy it. I’m voting for McCain unless Hillary is our nominee, but 7 1/2 years of Republican authoritarianism has put our country in jeopardy. I’m voting Democrat down ticket and hope that keeps McCain in check. He’s a decent man and I don’t have any problem supporting him, unless Hillary gets the nomination (I’m still hoping for a miracle) but I’m not going to buy into voting straight Republican. I man, who’s been in charge these last years when our economy’s tanked and taken our nation to war?

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 03:19:19

Your right Linda but sometime I just get mad and want to kick them all to the curb. I love Senator Bill Nelson, he really defended our right to have our votes count here in Florida and was a big Hillary supporter. My only problem is he doesn’t want to drill off shore and I can’t understand why when China is starting to drill for Cuba. I think drilling is going to be a big issue and if the Dems don’t do something about it the Repubs will run away with the spoon.

Comment by rjj | 2008-06-20 04:18:49

A senator from anywhere who was FOR drilling in the front yard would not be senator long.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 06:02:04

Take a look at the polling on that. It is a total 180. People have made all of the sacrifices they are willing to make and still their gas is at $4/gallon. I think that you will find that the great majority feel that if, say, Texans have no issue with drilling in their coastal areas for oil, then why not? The tide has turned. Trust me. oblowme will change his opinion in ten minutes when he gets a hold of the polls.

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:30:08

Exactly. And Mexico wants to start drilling, too. Given the lax environmental policies of those two countries and their proximity to the Florida coast it is better to beat them to the punch and use the newest technology for extraction that would harm the environment far less if at all. I would think the equipment has improved since the moratorium was instated.

 

Comment by alexei | 2008-06-20 09:41:24

Drilling is not the answer. It is Hillary’s short, mid and long term energy plans. There is peak oil, which we have passed. We need to put the effort similar to the Apollo project to develop alternative energy and infrastructure. This will also bring high paying jobs to every part of the country. It also will bring energy independence and stop the need to go “protect” the Mid East for oil. With decentralized energy, it will also lessen targets for terrorists. Hillary’s comprehensive energy plan is the reason I first came on board. This is a holistic, innovative and integrative solution for many of our country’s problems. Drilling is a short sighted environmental disaster that will do little or nothing to help bring costs down for consumers, create jobs or bring about energy intependence. Instead, it will also create more terrorist targets and in many cases, be in harm’s way of hurricanes (such as those in the Gulf of Mexico).

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:01:00

It would take at least five years to even implement that strategy. It is a step in the right direction and a smart initiative, but it isn’t a short term solution to a problem that demands immediate action. As for the target for terrorism, we already have dozens to choose from. There are our major ports, namely DC and New York, office buildings, landmarks in DC like the White House, the Capitol and the Pentagon, then nuclear reactors or Hoover Dam. I don’t know how much damage hurricanes would inflict on the machinery. But this issue is for Florida to decide.

 
 

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-06-20 09:58:16

The Democratic Party hopes to pick up a large number of seats this fall. It won’t hurt to vote out some of them so they can learn their lessons.
Both Democrats and Republicans abuse their power in Congress. Our only protection is to vote for the challengers time to time.
It doesn’t seem to help a lot, but maybe a little.
I have my list of Florida Democrats that have to go, no matter what.

Comment by Mary | 2008-06-20 12:32:16

I suggest you find out which of your representatives voted FOR giving the Bush administration and the telecoms immunity today, and vote AGAINST them.

 
 
 

Comment by sowsear | 2008-06-20 10:18:12

If you vote Dem downticket and somehow BO wins by hook or by crook , then he gets to rule the country like Bush/Cheney 1st term or worse.

 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:13:23

Fox’s ratings have shot up tremendously too by reporting fairer news.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 06:56:07

And MSNBC’s have tanked. I can’t remember who it was, but one comedian said that the infomercial for the Steam Mop had more viewers than MSNBC. LOL!

 
 

Comment by dee4hill | 2008-06-20 11:47:04

Not only CNN and MSNBC - when I open Yahoo every morning, I think, “What will the Obama headline be for today?” Very little in print media about McCain.. they’re too busy gushing over The Radical One.

Where is our free press? Bought by the Soros bunch. I only watch Fox now, and use to be, I wouldn’t even click the channel past them. They were fair to Hillary and now Cavuto is doing his part to maintain balanced reporting. I can’t believe I’m saying all this, but it’s the truth.

And Fox News will be the one to break the Michelle tape too. God, I can’t wait.

Hillary or McCain ‘08!

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 00:47:39

From Taylor Marsh:

June 18, 2008
In Michigan, Obama Meets Privately with Yet Another Hezbollah Agent; But Publicly Excludes Muslims @ Rally

While the Obama campaign is allegedly publicly staying away from Muslims and reportedly barring them from pics at an Obama event (though Detroit Newsistan and Reuters photos show otherwise), privately he’s hanging with them.

Yesterday, Barack Hussein Obama wrapped up his trip to Michigan by meeting with a group of “community leaders.”

But one of those so-called leaders has been identified as an agent of Hezbollah–Osama Siblani, publisher of the Arab American News. Siblani,, an open supporter of the terrorist group, was handpicked for the invite by the Obama campaign and spoke one-to-one with Siblani.
barackobamasmaller2.jpghezbollah4smaller.jpgosamasiblani2.jpg
Hezbollah Agent Osama Siblani Hangs with Obama

Continue at http://tinyurl.com/56eare

Hank Roth
Also see TheCrypt - http://pnews.org/crypt/

Comment by Lyn | 2008-06-20 01:14:22

Did you see the article about Gaddafi saying Obama is Muslim? Here is one of his quotes.

“We are still hoping that this black man will take pride in his African and Islamic identity, and in his faith, and that [he will know] that he has rights in America, and that he will change America from evil to good, and that America will establish relations that will serve it well with other peoples, especially the Arabs.”
PUMA
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP196008

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 01:40:29

I wonder what Osama thinks about Obama. Maybe we’re in even bigger danger because Osama views all Muslims living in the West as Infidels.
Even worse if you are born a Muslim and then convert to Christianity then the punishment in Sharia law is death.

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-06-20 09:39:23

Pampers hasn’t converted to Christianity yet so he’s safe from Sharia Law.

Where’s Pamper’s baptismal certificate? When was the last time Pampers took Communion?

Can one be a “Christian” at Trinity with participating in the fundamental tenets of Christianity?

Comment by sowsear | 2008-06-20 10:21:37

He is a Muslim in absentia.

Comment by Mary | 2008-06-20 12:34:22

I don’t think he’s a Muslim.

I DO think he’s a corporate sellout trying to package himself as something “new,” which he’s not.

And THAT is the reason I’ll never vote for him.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:18:51

She’s all over the place. I guess her “turn-on-a-dime” strategy isn’t exactly working out?

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:15:15

Condi had to go to Isreal and meet with the leaders to calm them down. Barky got America in trouble and Condi had to go patch things up. He isn’t even the nominee yet and he is getting USA in trouble.

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-06-20 09:43:02

Poor ‘Sleeza!!!
She’s earning her Ferragamos!
Having to babysit and clean-up after TWO petulent, spoiled Man-Child’s (Sic)!
I almost feel for Condi!

 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-06-20 05:16:13

Is there some reason why we should believe ANYTHING at all from that website? It has been turned over to the Obamabutts and TM seems to be drinking the Obama koolaid.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 06:04:10

I don’t go there. She has made herself a pariah. She sold out her readers and the Butts don’t need her. Perfect storm. End of story.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:00:16

What goes around comes around…and bites you in the butt.
Marsh has been around long enough to have known that, so she only has herself to blame.

 

Comment by fran | 2008-06-20 08:18:29

I bailed the day after South Dakota, when she praised BO for deigning to say something complimentary about Hillary. After months of detailing his lies and hypocrisy, TM wrote: “That was very very important to me.” I knew she was gone. Once a liar, always a liar. How pathetic that he had suddenly become “sincere.” Just like MO and the others who are making such an effort to “bring all the little ladies along” by saying nice things about Hillary now. Way too little too late folks. I am not a fool.

 
 

Comment by Bella | 2008-06-20 07:00:32

ITA

Traitor Marsh is a complete JOKE.

Comment by DAB | 2008-06-20 09:13:21

She complained vociferously about all of the nasty tricks that Obama followers were playing on her. I know that she said that she would support him if he won but she was downright insulting to those who did not do the same. Her turnabout was startling primarily in the harshness of her tone and dismissiveness of those who did not immediately follow her lead.

Comment by K. Wynne | 2008-06-20 10:58:18

Well, Soros is buying off everyone else, why not Marsh?

When someone suddenly sells out their convictions, you can bet money was involved.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 00:49:33

What Puma and No Deal need to do now is have a Man such as myself talk to Neil about these same issues with the same passion and conviction that the women have shown.
That would blow the myth that it’s just women that are upset about this fixed election and the sexism which pushed Hillary out.

Comment by wry | 2008-06-20 00:54:54

Good idea, Seattle.

 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 00:58:41

Great idea. I hate to be so direct, but are you a bit more “guy” than the previous male spokespersons?

LOL*

I know…….impolitic of me to point this out.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 01:02:23

Yes Ann…I look and talk like Ed Rendell

I’m a public speaker and leader in sales in my industry

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 01:03:51

Actually my wife says that I look and act more like Hannity.
Of course that would be a moderate Hannity!

Comment by sowsear | 2008-06-20 10:26:23

Why don’t you contact Cavuto and tell him there are men who also want to speak out on these issues. And then you volunteer!

 
 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:21:30

Oh, thank you for not blasting me for my obvious gender-biased comment. LOL* I very much want to say that I liked the guy who spoke. Real guy. No problem.

But this has got to get beyond “mad women.”

How can we get you out there?

Comment by K. Wynne | 2008-06-20 11:04:33

AnninCa,

While I do agree that men should also be speaking out as well in order to get “beyond mad women”, as you so aptly put it.

However, we also don’t want the press turning this into men having to take care of the “victimized” women who are mad because their candidate lost!

The reason women aren’t taken seriously is because we give in too quickly and let men take over and do our talking for us.

While I welcome and am glad that men want to participate in this ongoing debate, I also want to make the point that women should not be pushed out of the arena in the process.

 
 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 01:16:47

Seattle Moss is a bigger than life, power packed 6″4″ package of incredible political knowledge, drive and energy.
I call him ‘Senator’–this is the presence that he presents to the world.
His loving wife,
Seattle Rose

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:24:08

Quite a ringing endorsement there big guy. lol. Good luck if you make it on TV. Let us know when.

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 01:57:55

Thank you HARP.

These are dire times. As a student of History I see parallels to our situation in the past youth movements of Germany,China and Russia.
I consider all of us patriots who see plainly the threat we are facing.
This is no less than a slow motion hostile takeover of our great country by the internationalists who have backed Obama with machinations of Chicago thug politics with the complicity of the DNC.
It needs to be defeated!
This is our turn in History to defend and speak out against this tyranny.

Comment by DAB | 2008-06-20 09:19:00

Seattle - I’m all fer ya! My husband is also of that ilk and he thought Hillary was awesome.
Hope that you make it all the way to MSNBC.

 

Comment by C.S. | 2008-06-20 12:42:20

Also a student of history and I agree but it isn’t “politically correct” to compare the similarities taking place in our country right now with those first steps on the path toward total government control.

There are many autobiographies and memoirs describing the slow insidious process but the 1993 movie “Swing Kids” set in the early 1930s depicts how a group (14 to 18) of upper class jazz loving kids known as swingjugend became the target of government suppression and ended up in work camps or forced into the military for rebelling against becoming Nazi jugend.

My 15 year old niece didn’t see the relevance of studying ancient (by her standards) history of WWII. Today’s kids connect through the visual medium so I asked her to watch this move. She later admitted that she had expected it to be boring but the reality of these young kids being put in work camps because of the music they listed to hit home. She also told me that she had finally confronted one of her classmates who was spreading his views that the holocaust had never happened.

Sorry for the long post but I feel it is important to confront bigotry, sexism - and yes racism, head on by giving no quarter to those who practice it. Especially those running for a high political office who condone it by their silence. Fear and apathy are our greatest enemies in the battle to keep our Democratic government.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-06-20 01:09:02

Contact the PUMA people, Seattle.

Comment by Lyn | 2008-06-20 01:16:44

I agree, offer to be a spokesman. I think they (MSM)are trying to pretend it is just typicla bitter old white women who haven’t seen the light that is Obama

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-06-20 10:11:25

I agree. Very good idea.

 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:18:13

Let’s get a well rounded mix of people appearing on the show.

 
 

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:17:38

I think you would do a good job Seattle, I know you do a good job answering the trolls that come here.

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 01:24:25

Thank you Tampa!
I will contact PUMA

If there is one thing I hate more than anything is women being bullied by emasculated sexist wimps.

Comment by maniaco | 2008-06-20 02:30:53

“…emasculated male wimp[s].”

Hey, that’s no way to talk about Our Fearless Leader! LOL

Seriously, Seattle Folks, I hope the big 6′4″ guy gets his chance to speak out for all us menfolk on TV. Like he sez, it’s not just the women who are frosted.

Go for it bro!!!

PUMA

Comment by dpvegas | 2008-06-20 05:44:58

“…it’s not just the women who are frosted.”

So true. In our house, my husband can barely even talk about this. And I’ll let you in on a secret–HE’S the one who first supported Hillary. I wanted to check all the candidates out, but didn’t trust Bambi, so he was never anyone I would’ve supported (ironically, thanks to the Nation, since I’d read quite a few articles that didn’t paint him in glowing terms). My husband volunteered for her campaign, worked at our caucus, and even voted as a delegate in our county election.

Anyhoo, we’re both mad. So, it’s not just a bitter, old woman thing, it’s also a bitter, old man thing, too!

And for all these nimrods claiming it’s sour grapes, and lecturing us like some kind of little children, this isn’t my first year voting. I’ve supported more than one losing candidate in primaries (sometimes I’ve felt like a jinx), and gone on to support the Democratic candidate who won the nomination. Then again, I didn’t have any reason in those elections to question the nominee of whatever year (I’ve been eligible to vote since 1974). So, this isn’t about “my candidate lost.”

And stop insulting me. From the persuasion classes I took, that’s not considered a good technique.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:34:01

Will Bower did pretty well. Paula Abeles was my fave, of course after Harriet Christian.

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:22:14

We need some Pennsylvania truck drivers to appear. I got wind of some of them angrily sobbing and screaming after they heard Hillary was forced to suspend. They were beside themselves like most of us.

 

Comment by Kathleen | 2008-06-20 07:03:02

Hope,

I have found that the women who have been featured in the meda as Hillary supporters against obama and in support of McCain are the most passionate in expressing their outrage against the “scortched earth” tactics of the obama thugs in expressing their disdain at dissent of any kind against the ONE.

I believe this passion stems from women who are in senior positions in the office, as a rule, are expected to train the new guy in the office and then watch him be promoted over them.

The fact that these pundits don’t get it that, among many other things, the most obvious fact is that obama is simply not qualified to be president. This inability to acknowledge that fact by the pundits clearly shows the impact of the male entitlement gene. I have no doubt were obama a black woman with the exact same credentials, charisma, etc. as obama the man, they would have laughed at HER for even thinking she could ever be president.

I find this to be a defining moment in our country’s history for women (and men who care about fairness and equality) as to their role in society AND for the future of our country and whether the American people are willing to fight to preserve our democracy.

I pray with every fiber of my being that there will be a million strong in Denver protesting the DNC coup and this totally unqualified candidate!

As Hillary so often said during the campaign, “it’s time for us to take back our country!”

 
 

Comment by John Smart | 2008-06-20 02:25:44

Here! Here!

 

Comment by Vince P | 2008-06-20 06:08:31

Seattle: Yes. you hit on what I was finding frustrating about how Neal is interviewing these folks.

He keeps coming at it from a “sore loser” POV.

It needs to be forcefully articulated that Obama’s deceptivess, inexperience ,etc. that is the motivator. (if indeed those are the reasons. I dont mean to presume)

 

Comment by Piper | 2008-06-20 08:09:59

Seattle Moss–

Contact Diane Mantouvalous of Just Say No Deal at editor@hireheels.com. I think she’s arranging a lot of the interviews(and doing a few herself). She may be interested in what you have to say. I too get frustrated with the ’sore loser’ angle and would like to pivot from that.

 
 

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 00:49:37

I only watch fox now, I know they’ve been more fair than the other channels. Although, sometimes I think OReilly is to easy on Obama because he wants him to come on his show.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 01:00:13

I hope you have been noticing on Fox how they have really brought in the women commentators. This is especially true with O’Reilly.
This is part of the great change in American politics. The Republican party will actively seek out women and will champion equality and be a force against sexism.There will still be the moralist’s on the right but they will increasingly be marginalized like they have been this election.
I’m enjoying what I’m seeing!!

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:10:40

Yeah, my sister and I laugh and tease one another about turning into Republicans. I always thought of them as mean people but now they seem kinder and gentler than my own party. Shame isn’t it.

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:26:29

Tampagurl. There is a protest Barky march in Miami this weekend. I hope you and your sister can go.
I can’t post the details here so ask around.

 
 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:11:12

I agree. I’m not exactly feeling empowered.

But I’m a lot less bitter. :)

The Democrats are infuriating me.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:18:58

This is why I became an Independent several years ago. I’ve always been a moderate, and I lean more to the conservative on certain issues. When the far left wing Dems starting taking over after Gore’s loss, I felt like the gun toting, religious, working class was being pushed out of the party even before Obama came out and said it.
As they are right now, I don’t think that either party has cornered the market on what’s best for America or is really in touch with how the average American feels. They don’t need to just come out and shake our hands on the campaign trail, they need to spend a few weeks or more living the way we do. Let Obama and McCain find out what it’s like to live on $500 a week. I don’t think that either one of these men ever had to worry about where their next meal would come from, and I think it would be an eye-opener for them.

Comment by Krys | 2008-06-22 22:24:38

Better yet, Why don’t they live on what I live on each month. That is $571 and no foodstamps since I make too much money.

 
 
 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-06-20 08:46:38

I was out of work on Wed and watching Fox. I couldn’t watch MO on The View, but wanted to catch highlights of her co-hosting.

Fox had on some PR expert who praised MO’s performance– gave it an “A+”, said she “pitched a shutout”. He had very high praise.

In processing it, I thought, oh-oh, they are backing off MO. They want her PR campaign to cool, so when they unload on her, it will have greater impact. (I’m not saying she wasn’t good on the The View, but Fox’s praise bordered on overkill.)

As I’m sure you know, watch Fox with a wary eye, because they do get their message out there. I watch Fox, too - it’s easier to filter out the bs, than it is on other cable news channels.

 
 

Comment by mahaska | 2008-06-20 01:48:42

I must be tired. I read that as come out on his show.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 02:03:40

It took me a minute to get what you meant LOL. That would be hysterical.

 
 
 

Comment by BJinChicago | 2008-06-20 00:50:06

All of you are of course right. I think people have to experience the threats,the foul language, the intimidation, and the gang/ thug mentality first-hand before they believe it.

 

Comment by Greco | 2008-06-20 00:53:24

Paula was fantastic. I hope everyone will not forget to contribute to help Hillary retire her campaign debt.

 

Comment by Lil' Mike | 2008-06-20 00:53:35

Colin, really, you know how much electricity Al Gore used? Says who? Oh, and what was the source of that electricity? Oh, and doesn’t he also run a worldwide business out of that “home”? Oh, and who defined what an “average American household” was for the purpose of your Gore hit job. Oh, and neat trick, you talk about Gore’s house for a year and then you compare that to your “average American household” for a month. By the way, how’s the view up Sean Hannity’s ass? Hey, leave your right wing talking point horseshit on some other blog.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:00:29

Lil’ Mike, a hard-on doesn’t count as personal growth.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:11:45

LMAO. I hate lame statistics, but I don’t like hypocrite Al Gore much better.

 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:34:06

Lil’ Mike, Sorry, I think I may have taken your comment ..out of context, as they say these days. My apologies.

Comment by OBAMATROLLSAREIDIOTS | 2008-06-20 08:47:46

No, those statistics are correct about Gore’s house. I live in Tennessee and they did a report on his usuage just the other day.

JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOOGY

NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:39:31

No, but the yearly figure v. the monthly figure was a bit of a contortion.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by iam0nly1 | 2008-06-20 00:56:33

I cannot believe these people are calling this woman’s home and threatening her life and the life of her children! This is supposed to be America!

The more I find out about Obama and his thugs, the more I am inclined to believe that Senator Obama and his campaign may have had something to do with the death of those three TUCC members.

This is disgusting and it’s been happening the ENTIRE TIME!!! Caucuses, threatening posts, harassing blogs, “outing” people on the web. These are the same kinds of tactics used against Valerie Plame by the Bush Administration.

This is sick and wrong.

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:03:40

I can. There was a direct threat on this blog today alone.

Tonight I received a call from 1-000-0000.

First for me!

I have not doubt that anyone can figure out who I am and stalk me.

The problem with this strategy is that I’m pretty much who I say I am.

I’m gratefully way too boring to mess with. *haha

And I have NO political power, really. I have nothing invested. Nothing to lose. Nothing of value.

So the threats on-line?

*shrug*

 

Comment by ptl | 2008-06-20 01:11:32

Let’s turn it around! People getting threats should record these thugs, get their phone numbers somehow, find out who they are. Let’s them get a taste of their medicine. Let’s fight back! There is no way their going to bully us to get our vote!

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 01:36:30

It’s very difficult. I can tell you from personal experience - my sister got in a lot of trouble in high school.

 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss' Wife | 2008-06-20 02:24:14

What can we expect from a culture that glorifies Gangsta rap and nominates it’s candidates based on American Idol.

I heard today that 25% of people have not read a book over the past year.

40% of Americans can’t find Mexico on a map.

Our educational system sucks!!

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:26:26

Amen to that! How can we expect people to behave civilly when it comes to politics if they can’t behave civilly anywhere else?

 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:29:28

Senator Obama and his campaign may have had something to do with the death of those three TUCC members.

count on it. He is still being investigated.

 
 

Comment by Obama is a bum | 2008-06-20 00:56:53

Obama thugs are in no short supply. I have been wise to them for a long time. I saw how they invaded and strong armed the Texas caucuses.

Obama’s entire compaign is already old and inane. It consists of 3 basic steps.

1. Change (What the hell does that mean?)
2. Bush III (The man is not running - hasn’t Obama figured out there is a two term limit or is he still trying to deduce the number of states in the US?)
3. Anyone who doesn’t vote for Obama is racist (It seems like everyone who IS voting for Obama is racist - either having the Wright syndrome or the Pfleger syndrome)

 

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:01:11

Who the hell are you Lil’Dick I mean Mike!!! we have free speach here so you can check your attitude at the door.

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:31:32

Lil Mike is a cruel troll who has foaming mouth disease.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:01:45

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:03:39

cool, thanks HARP

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:14:06

Notice the ID theft under crimes?

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:23:11

No…What’s that mean HARP?

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:27:11

Every time the number changes, someone has had their identity stolen. Scary stuff.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:41:54

Holy crap…that is scary. That’s something else our government needs to do something about if they could quit fighting long enough. For crying out loud they are like little children.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:49:14

Yeah. Maybe those id thefts are being stolen by the Obama campaign for votes in Nov. lol

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-06-20 01:56:05

Wouldn’t surprise me I know they were doing something in Lake County IN. 1 O’clock in the morning before they turned in their piddly votes.

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:33:53

 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 02:27:47

I’m just hoping that Obamatrons don’t hack into web sites and steal our e-mail addresses

Susan..
Is there security to prevent this from happening

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by ptl | 2008-06-20 01:03:55

I think anyone threathened by bho supporters should fight back by tracking their phone id, finding out who they are, and exposing them - lets turn the scare tactic around.

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:07:48

Not me……I don’t play those games.

I trust the site owners to turn the people in. If there’s future prosecution, great.

But I’m sure as heck not poking THAT snake.

These people are sick, mentally.

I respect that.

Really.

This is the behavior of the mentally ill, and they should be treated gently.

I have no great heart here. But I do respect compassion and respect.

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:44:48

I DON’T DOUBT THAT many people who blog already are being tracked by net systems companies.

 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-06-20 06:04:39

Do what I do. When people threaten me, I hunt them down and kill them.

http://perrylogan.org/images/LarrySinclair1.jpg

 
 
 

Comment by Sam | 2008-06-20 01:07:15

 

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-06-20 01:12:30

Cavuto is great - you can tell he’s skeptical about the PUMA folks - he’s inclined to believe them, but he wants to make sure they’re not Repubs in disguise.

When Paula said she’d received 40 to 50 calls since Monday Cavuto’s body language responded, he was surprised.

Paula hit all the bases - how she’s been threatened, acknowledgement McCain is different on the issues, and why she doesn’t want Hillary as veep.

Excellent excellent excellent.

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 02:12:27

Yes, I agree totally.

He did shift.

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-06-20 02:30:35

That’s just broadcasting for you. They put the person on the defensive to bring out the maximum response.
That’s why he always brings up the sour grapes.

 
 

Comment by belltoll | 2008-06-20 01:13:10

Great job Paula. Hang in there!

Are there any laywers here tonight? I have a question.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 10:39:52

belltoll:

You may need to be more specific in your inquiry in these days of specialization and micro-focused practices.

 
 

Comment by LauraInCali | 2008-06-20 01:27:53

Geez AnninCa, I can’t believe they would bother you.
I have nothing to hide either. But, if someone called and threatened me I would not hesitate reporting it to the authorities and have them prosecuted. I think there are a few obsessed Obama Nazi’s out there with nothing better to do. Why does Obama attract those kind of people?

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 01:47:21

I’m sure that call wasn’t an Obama supporter. It crossed my mind briefly. LOL*

I’m truly so innocuous they could hack my computer and I honestly wouldn’t care.

Except for my paypal account.

(I’ve even figured out how to keep that threat to a minimum).

Anyway, yeah……I have to admit.

I’m so dull.

I did go to the beach today in CA and watched the surfers. Great waves.

And on the way back to the car, one of them was entirely friendly. My thought? Slap! Get those cougar thoughts outta your head, kid.

LOL*

Oh gosh…….life is too upside down for me.

I’m just way too old-fashioned for real life, I think.

Comment by LauraInCali | 2008-06-20 01:58:45

We seem to lead similar lifestyles. My life is pretty dull. Anyway, cougar thoughts are natural. We ain’t dead yet! I wish I was at the beach today 103+ here. Hate the heat sooo much.

 
 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 02:14:29

I recieved a call from 1-800-000-0000.

Firt time. I do not consider it a threat.

Just wierd.

Comment by LauraInCali | 2008-06-20 02:31:51

Sorry, I misunderstood. Better weird than threatening.

 
 

Comment by Lou | 2008-06-20 03:47:48

Have you ever thought it is his campaign doing this? Just sayin’

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 01:44:14

Anyone know if this site is part of Huffpo. If so she should be condemned for participating in this crap.Michelle is not on my Christmas list but this just is not right.

http://www.236.com/news/2008/06/18/meet_michelle_obama_my_black_f_1_7205.php

Comment by LauraInCali | 2008-06-20 02:05:30

I can’t answer your question but, I agree with you, about the sexism. I don’t care for her personally but, it seems like the same kind of crap they pulled on Hillary.

 

Comment by AnninCa | 2008-06-20 02:22:42

I don’t click any link to HufPo.

Cesspool. I posted there and argued only because I thought Hillay’s postion should be reprensated.

But the site is pro-Obama. It is clearly that PR goal.

Today, I’m so averse that I won’t click on Taylor Marsh links. They are too oftet to that cesspool.

I refuse to go to that site.

I do admit I’m sorry I ever did.
That was hopeless, wrong, and terribly naive,

 

Comment by Danny | 2008-06-20 03:35:13

Not connected. 236 is a satire site like the Onion. They’re not too hot on McCain.

 
 

Comment by Ai1een | 2008-06-20 02:39:20

Great job Paula! So proud of how you did in this interview.

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-06-20 03:30:14

“Abusive relationship”. On the button!

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright | 2008-06-20 03:36:51

Great interview Paula. Keep up the good fight there are many many many people with you.

Spot on.

To the inevitable trolls that show up…chew the Baracks off our big fat logs.

 

Comment by Joe Smith | 2008-06-20 04:29:28

Paula thank you expressing our point so eloquently. This has been the best to the point interview I have seen.

 

Comment by jim meeker | 2008-06-20 04:42:12

DEAR FUCKING NUTJOBS, IT’S OVER. SHILLERY LOST. GET THE FUCK OVER IT. THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY FIGHT AT THE CONVENTION. GET SOME MEDICAL HELP FOLKS.

AND WHERE’S THAT MICHELLE OBAMA VIDEO, BTW?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by NITEOWL | 2008-06-20 05:13:15

Another Obama supporter with more hate than hope

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 06:13:38

someone must have wandered into the batchitcrazy cave and nudged him so he had to scream out … they add nothing.

 
 

Comment by Bella | 2008-06-20 07:04:26

Turn off the caps, sweetie. Your tiny weewee is showing.

 

Comment by TerryDo | 2008-06-20 07:25:12

Losers like you Jim Meeker, who do not know how to debate intellectually, try to intimidate people with foul language.

But we have come to expect nothing more from Obama supporters who are Kool Aid drinkers and desperados…

N.B. Obama did not win the nomination, it was given to him by the DNC, the RBC and the money man G.S. and the media. So as far as America is concerned he is an illegitimate Democratic presumptive nominee.

Comment by Disconnect | 2008-06-20 07:30:41

Obama won the majority of pledged delegates. Even with FL and MI, he won the majority of pledged delegates. He won twice the states as his opponent. I don’t know why this is so hard for you people to grasp.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:44:31

Tell us how many traditionally vote RED and how many vote BLUE. Tell us how many Electoral College votes are represented by the states won. Tell us how many were caucus versus voting primaries. You can’t because you have talking points and not a brain in your head. Shoo. You’re a “disconnect” alright …. from reality.

 
 
 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:33:55

What were we saying a while ago about how bad our educational system is in America? I think we have a prime example here.

 

Comment by Tattie | 2008-06-20 08:40:24

WHY STAY ON THIS SITE IF IT FILLS YOU WITH RAGE. IT ONLY MAKES YOU SOUND MENTAL. JUST TAKE YOUR MEDS AND GO AWAY

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 08:45:06

Sweetie? Flashing back to a bad trip?

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:49:47

Why didn’t he scream his name, too? That was the first thing I noticed. He walks in the room, and he “meekly” introduces himself. “Hi, my name is Jim.” Then it’s cap lock and load. I’M OUT OF MY FUCKING MIND AND IT’S 4:42 AM, AND I’VE BEEN UP ALL NIGHT DOING METH. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. “Thanks. My name is Jim Meeker, and I am a meth head for Barack Obama.”

 

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 10:52:19

One index finger stuck on the “Caps Lock” key, and the other stuck up his hoohoo.

 
 

Comment by Gloria | 2008-06-20 05:12:33

I’m so glad the law is going after this bunch of thugs…but I wish they could trace it to the top…

Here’s something that also should be looked into:

“From: UnheardAmericanVoices–Negative Messages Intentionally Placed in Clinton TV Ads?? Who Inside Her Campaign Sabotaged Her? A Disturbing MUST READ/SEE”

http://tinyurl.com/3sqqm3

This is REALLY scary when you think about it…check it out if you haven’t seen it already…

 

Comment by Where IS THE TAPE | 2008-06-20 05:13:07

This blog became popular because of 1 reason. The “Michelle Obama Whitey tape”.

Now after weeks, it seems as though if there is no tape.

Larry is not posting any new updates about it, no revelations, no nothing..

See a trend here? This is because Obama has won the nomination and there is no tape to scare delegates into voting for Hillary.

I am sure as November rolls around, “the tape” talk will amp up again to try to scare folks about Obama.

Beat Obama on the issues and not on the sleaze.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-06-20 06:08:25

Timing, my friend. It would be daft to release the tape until the Democrats are all the way into the trap.

Not that they’ll need the tape. Obama loses ten thousand votes every time he opens his piehole.

Comment by Disconnect | 2008-06-20 07:31:37

I guess that’s why he’s leading in all the polls.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:36:48

Only leading in certain polls but not in all polls.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:37:17

Check again …. down in Ohio and Florida … but he already conceded those.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 09:59:32

Kerry and Gore and the other Dem losers were up in the polls, too.

 
 
 

Comment by Linda C. | 2008-06-20 08:25:38

It would be great to debate the issues, but he changes his mind from week to week.
We have back peddling on his pledge on campaign finance reform, NAFTA, and Iraq. By the time Nov. comes around, he will look and sound like John McCain

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:04:18

I would imagine if the tape were to come out, it would be in October. At least until after August unfortunately.

 
 

Comment by Vince P | 2008-06-20 05:14:44

I’m glad that Neal is giving publicity to this.. however, I can’t stand the way he does his interviews.

 

Comment by Cath | 2008-06-20 05:36:17

For what it’s worth, Paula Abeles has also done at least one strange thing in her political past (links below). However, the threats and intimidation she describes should be taken very seriously and, if true, exemplify the genuine nastiness of some of Obama’s supporters.

Realizing that one of these sites is totally all-Obama-all-the-time, here are the sources of information about Abeles’ past behavior, which is strange at the least.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/highlevel_mccain_volunteer_wor.php

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/From_Jeffersons_vs_Hemingses_to_McCain_vs_Obama.html

Comment by Disconnect | 2008-06-20 07:33:15

Oh, yeah, what a credible person to hitch your hopes on, NoQuarter. It’s pathetic that you people actually are aligning yourself with Fox News.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:34:52

Why has oblowme changed his position AGAIN on NAFTA? Why is he the first presidential candidate since WATERGATE not to take public financing? Come on Disconnected, explain. We’d love to hear your “thinking” ….

 

Comment by DoroB | 2008-06-20 07:45:42

Oh yeah, I’d like some explanation about NAFTA too. Disconnected, be a good Obot and explain.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:48:17

I think he just wanted to leave some obamarat droppings and go. The meme for the day is “Bill did it too.” FYI … what they don’t GET is that Bill took public funding like every other candidate since NIXON. And Bill got elected. Twice. Something that is laughable in the same sentence with oblowme.

 
 

Comment by Bonita | 2008-06-20 08:27:54

And what does it say about you that you are here trying to dialog with us?

Don’t have many friends do ya? It’s okay! We are accepting of all kind of losers.

 
 
 

Comment by Pragmatist | 2008-06-20 05:47:05

My bet is that these threats came from Larry’s 5 friends who know somebody who saw the “Whitey” tape.
Larry is going to reveal thjose 5 names any day now because he is tired of having his credibility laughed at.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-06-20 05:56:37

Patience, my friend. They have to wait till the Democrats have walked all the way into the trap.

 

Comment by Disconnect | 2008-06-20 07:34:30

The tape doesn’t exist. Larry never considered that Reason magazine was actually going to look into his allegations.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:36:12

New position on NAFTA?
No public financing? Even the NY Times editorial is criticizing oblowme ….

Numbers DOWN in Ohio and Florida …. hmmmmmmm

 
 
 

Comment by Bella | 2008-06-20 06:06:30

That was awesome!

I heart Paula!

 

Comment by DJ | 2008-06-20 06:19:56

I came upon this video last night, and if you ever need a preview of the EVIL to come if Obama is elected, this is it. This lady in this video is Jewish but she could be any of our nationalities. She is speaking for all of us, and we must get others to hear her. It scares me to death what will happen if Obama gets into office. Now that he isn’t going to following the same financing rules, he will have tons of money, BUT WE HAVE TO STOP HIM. It made me SICK watching this, and to be honest afraid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYf_xSrRSPE

 

Comment by Kevin | 2008-06-20 06:33:46

on average, how many user names does an average troll use? just curious
different names
saying the same thing

If you want proof the thuggery begins on the top take a look at this
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/obama-confronts.html

 

Comment by standard | 2008-06-20 06:38:07

Good to see Obama’s Thug campaign style fiinally
come to light.
Thank you, Neil Cavuto.

I will watch you.

 

Comment by Amy Mullen | 2008-06-20 06:39:26

I just saw Paula on Fox and Friends. She should be furious about the treatment she has received from Obama supporters. Wake up, Democrats, the party has “left” you, with “left” being the operative word. McCain is your guy this year!

Go Paula……keep up the fight. This is still America.

 

Comment by Joe Smith | 2008-06-20 06:39:52

The MSM has not stopped their glowing reviews about BOBO. I am not sure if the media is out of touch with the electorate or if they are just giving people what they want to hear.

I saw the add with the small kid and the 100 year in Iraq. These people are real fools if they think that anybody will be able to just pull the troops out of Iraq over night.

The Polls are starting to come around. FL,OH is back in McCain column.

McCain better start going on the offensive in one way or an other. I am not sure what he is waiting for.

 

Comment by Judi Erwin | 2008-06-20 06:43:50

I think Paula is a smart and very brave woman! Really the only thing that you have to remember or think about is all of the news peoples remarks. When they talked about Hilary losing the statements were “Her supporters will either stay home or vote for MaCain” When they discussed Obama losing the comments were, “There will be riots and BLOOD IN THE STREETS”. I think this sums up the type of “THUGS” he associates with and the views he holds deep inside.
Judi Erwin

 

Comment by June Porto | 2008-06-20 06:46:41

It is inspiring to see someone like Paula Abeles stand up to the powers that be dispite the threats she and her family received. What courage!!!! If only people in Germany did that in the last century, maybe Hitler would not have come to power. She will be in our family prayers Thank you Neil Cavuto for bringing to light what we can’t get in other media.

 

Comment by olivia1998 | 2008-06-20 06:56:44

Paula Abeles was on Fox and Friends this morning and she was was great. She made several important points. The big one for me was “in free country you have to fear speaking out against this Obama thug” What is up with that?????

 

Comment by alee21 | 2008-06-20 07:01:11

I am glad that FOX is having Clinton supporters to present their views.

I think that having male Clinton supporters on would also help the cause.

What I am afraid of is that it is a novelty and that it will wear off. How are we to keep the interest and passion alive until August, until November? I think Obama is banking on this.

Has anything figured out how to contact PUMA? The only way I see is to blog. I wanted to contribute by purchasing their T-shirts and mugs but it seems like I have go through the purchasing twice.

 

Comment by R Thatcher | 2008-06-20 07:05:04

Speaking of candidates who attract vile people … this is one of the nastiest, sleaziest political sites I’ve ever encountered. All you people seem to do is traffic in sleazy rumors, innuendo and outright falsehoods.

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:30:05

Buh-bye Becky … take a hike. And don’t let the door slam too loud on the way out or you wake up the other trolls. Thanks for shopping here at No Quater.

 

Comment by typical irishman | 2008-06-20 07:36:18

more troll worm crap

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:41:22

Funny. I read this blog every day, and the only thing vile and sleazy I find are the the comments from trolls.

 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 07:44:54

You!…Off my planet!

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:10:46

This coming from a Bush voter and / or an Obama supporter. Meaning you have or are currently supporting a candidate who traffics in rumor, innuendo and outright lies. Bush lied about the Iraq war. Obama is already off to a good start. Obama lied about NAFTA. He called the Clintons racist. One of his staff was caught meeting with Hamas. He BBQ’s with an unrepentant terrorist Ayers. Sunday morning, he dozes off in the pews while his pastor screams about the white devil giving AIDS to black babies and America deserving 911. You call all of this “sleaze”?

 

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 11:30:11

R Thatcher:

Who died and made you the ultimate oracle and arbiter of truth or falsehoods ?

 
 

Comment by alee21 | 2008-06-20 07:09:02

Somone over at PUMA linked to this video. Worth watching. It’s from a young man, just the kind that had flocked to Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LtKDwVo-o&eurl=http://www.bythefault.com/

Comment by ame | 2008-06-20 07:49:50

I watched the video. This guy is sensible. The video should be featured here. I feel the same way this guy does; initially, I supported Obama but my support waned over time. Now I would never support Obama.

 

Comment by Coster | 2008-06-20 07:59:14

Good video. Trolls constantly game the system, but if such tactics are to be part of someone’s presidential campaign, someone should shine the light on it. As most of us on the net know, the 14 year old girl with $50 of baby-sitting money is really some guy working on the Obama campaign. Orwellian indeed.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-20 07:59:37

When the bottom comes out, lots of room for fallout. IMHO

 
 

Comment by lute | 2008-06-20 07:27:05

I think that this video is the most powerful case
against making Barack Obama the democratic
Presidential Nominee.

 

Comment by Madam DeFarge | 2008-06-20 07:31:13

Everybody needs to see this video.
I hope that Larry will keep it at the top all day.

 

Comment by ame | 2008-06-20 07:35:31

Paula is absolutely right. Many Obama supporters have a “scorched earth’ attitude toward Clinton supporters. You see this attitude come through in political blogs. They are NOT helping their cause. Obama and company has not addressed this issue; he should.

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-20 07:44:26

They’ve played one too many computer games. Their whole outlook on life has been shaped by violent imagery.

 
 

Comment by WestPalm4Hillary | 2008-06-20 07:39:16

I’m a regular poster on Facebook. Unfortunately, on Facebook, you use your real name. Hillary Clinton has a page there, with a discussion board with hundreds of thousands of posts that often operated like a chat room.

Many of us Clinton supporters had our names and images “cloned” by Obama supporters, who would then take our names and images and move over to the “Obama” page and say the most vile, racist, disgusting things in our image. One woman had her CHILD threatened, and another man had his son threatened sexually by Obama supporters.

Sometimes it was more benign but equally disturbing, such as Obamatrolls “data mining” you on Google, etc., and then exposing your personal info against you. Other times, Obama supporters would make fake profiles and post racist rants so that it looked like Hillary supporters were saying such things. Now that Hillary is out of the picture, these same people have moved on to the John McCain board to do the same thing there. I actually feel sorry for the McCain people, because they don’t know what hatred will be unleashed by the “New Politics of Hope and Change” (c) (TM) (R) 2007 - 2008

They’re sick people. Nothing is sacred or out of bounds for them. Ultimately, I blame Bush and the Republicans, because they brought it to this level. The sort of festering hatred that has bubbled and trickled down to the youth.

Comment by DoroB | 2008-06-20 07:47:54

How nasty. Have you considered using a fake name on there?

 

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-06-20 12:15:22

The Facebook cloning issue would make a good story for Wired News.

Comment by R Thatcher | 2008-06-20 12:51:26

If it were true. Sounds like BS to me.

 
 
 

Comment by Denise | 2008-06-20 07:39:34

IMO the only candidate who has initiated smear campaigns would be Obama. I did a google on Paula this morning and I could not believe the number of finds that are dated June 2008.

Some one needs to check on each and every donation that Obama says he receive and verify that those people actually donated the money. You know just to make sure that registered voters name and address aren’t being used to post donations that they didn’t give.

Comment by ulahane | 2008-06-20 07:48:03

They definitely aren’t all legitimate donations.

“AMERICAN Presidential hopeful Barack Obama has had an unlikely campaign contribution – from thieves who fleeced the bank account of a British couple.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1192926.ece

 
 

Comment by typical irishman | 2008-06-20 07:41:56

Obama and his entire crowd are gutter punks.

 

Comment by Andrea | 2008-06-20 07:55:26

Great job Paula! Thank you!
Also, thank you for bringing up the issue of the threats by BO supporters. This issue should be pressed more by PUMA and justsaynodeal.com. I believe we need to force Obama to come out with a very strong statement against this type of behavior. Just saying they don’t condone it isn’t enough.
Thanks again - you were smart, quick with answers and heartfelt. I hope they put you on Fox and other news outlets some more.

 

Comment by AR(NC) | 2008-06-20 07:56:25

I really enjoyed reading this site. I was trying to find out why, someone would be treated to such gestapo tactics as Paula Abeles. I thought this was a free country and we were allowed to vote for whom we want….and just because you try to get out the truth about a candidates lack of experience and UN- American vitriol, is no reason to harass her (them) or her (their) family. Well, there have been times when I had to swallow my pride and vote for someone I didn’t particularly want. It’s the same on republican side. All of us didn’t get the person we had hoped for. We need to fix the system…. To many behind the scene money men making decisions for all of us, Democrat or Republican. They think were sheep and don’t know any better, but I wonder what has to happen to change this madness!!! I truly believed Hillery had won the popular vote, and would be the Dem. nominee. Then wow, a behind closed door deal. We are on the verge, all Americans, of losing every freedom and every dream, we as Americans have held dear for our whole life. You Democrats on this site, are great. I read honest debate without vicious anger…Maybe this is the beginning, to bring us all together!!! to find an answer.

Comment by Vince P | 2008-06-20 08:13:15

AR(NC): This is about the only Democrat/Left-leaning blog that I seen that ISN’T consumed by mindless raving hateful lunatics.

 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 08:21:26

Paula was on Fox and Friends this morning…She was good, they didn’t give her much time and I don’t find a video of it yet.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 07:58:17

Please read this article. You will find it very informative.

Someone, I do not know who, campaigned against Hillary Clinton from the inside and used all of America to do it. The worst part is that it seems to have worked. I doubt this is the only example that is out there but it is a starkly glaring example.

http://blog.unheardamericanvoices.com/2008/06/17/who-put-this-huge-knife-in-hillary-clintons-back–by-karen-hill.aspx

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 08:18:21

Ok….but who would be stopping the video’s at 6-9-15 sec. to see this….I watch a video I don’t keep stopping it…

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 08:23:17

According to the story, the brain catches it, even if we don`t seem to notice.

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 09:12:51

OK… I didn’t watch them I just read it…I think that someone was helping Obama but if I say who I think it was…people will disagree and we are already being accused of being Obama trolls on this blog by Hillary the President.

 
 
 

Comment by ame | 2008-06-20 08:24:18

There may have been someone who doesn’t like Clinton that worked on the campaign, but I don’t believe this commercial had any impact on the race. It’s too difficult to see the captions.

 
 

Comment by Zimeeisme | 2008-06-20 08:43:48

 

Comment by Hillary the President | 2008-06-20 08:55:32

It’s interesting to read the comments from HARP,30rydem, and ame. I’ve always thought there have been anti- Hillary people working within her campaign, especially, those who were checking our comments.

I don’t know if you’d experienced whether your posts were not going through, but my posts rarely got posted. So, I finally sent my comment saying that I believe some people who were checking our posts could be moles from OB camp.

After that post, any of my comments were posted.

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 09:06:36

Why would you think I am against Hillary? I have worked and helped campaigns over the years here in my state but never gave money…when Hillary ran I gave as much as I could. Even sent her money after she got out. I just know when it is over and time to move on…do you want Obama in the White House? I am not going to sit around and whine and complain about Hillary not getting the nomination..What the party did was wrong…Did you ever go to TM blog? I am the person who spent hours on end doing fund raisers there..The biggest night we had was the night the numbers came in for PA… $14,305.74… Again why do you think I am against Hillary?

 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-06-20 09:27:50

What no answer…come on tell me why…I never worked on her campaign….chicken…I think you are a troll and that is why your comments won’t post…you are the one working against Hillary and now trying to stop us from helping McCain.

 
 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-06-20 09:00:59

Great job, Paula! Hang in there!

 

Comment by Karen | 2008-06-20 09:01:46

House is beginning debate on telecom immunity bill,
please call your Congressperson and ask then to vote no……….only one hour of debate before vote.
Hoyer bill gives immunity not only to telecoms, but
to Bush officials…….CALL….

Comment by jack, too | 2008-06-20 09:42:43

I applaud the sentiment, Karen, but these are done deals, no matter what, it’s between the businesses, and the crooked, weak minded politicians who take their money, fuck everything else.

Fortunately, though, all the laws they enact can be used against them, they aren’t untouchable, contrary to their delusions. It took less than three weeks for Enron to fall, no one anywhere is invulnerable.

They dont even know what they’re doing anymore, unable to face, or counter any real opposition, they’re going through the motions, at this point, they repeat the same tactics so often…

 
 

Comment by the sane people | 2008-06-20 09:07:49

You poor, deluded mental liliputians must be loving the the trend lines coming that keep coming out from various polls, no?

Obama within 1(!) point in GA.

Obama now WINNING OH, WINNING MO — and even pulling within the MOE in FL.

WINNING NC.

WINNING VA.

Good stuff, eh?

Is you gonna crwy when mean, bad, icky Obama wins 400 EVs?

Comment by lunatic | 2008-06-20 09:11:36

unfortunately for you, deluded mental liliputians can and DO vote.

Comment by the sane people | 2008-06-20 09:17:22

We’ve decided we won’t contest the morally bankrupt and mentally defective vote.

Vote McCain.

Stay home.

Vote Nader.

Write in Hillary.

Do whatever you want.

It isn’t going to matter. America’s finished catering to the whack jobs at both ends of the spectrum.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 09:42:09

And which dwarf are you?

Comment by the sane people | 2008-06-20 09:51:15

Whichever one it is that doesn’t rest his hopes on phantom videos I heard about from someone who heard about it from someone else who says it’s DEVASTATING…

Whichever one it is that doesn’t run into the arms Neil Cavuto, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the cacophony brigade when reality takes a dump on a me.

Whichever one it is that doesn’t think one should “hear out” a convicted forger, con artist, and liar when he makes outrageous claims — hey, I slept with Hillary last year — should we “hear me out”, or do I need to post a YouTube video and find a disbarred kilt-wearing lawyer to represent me first?

Whichever one it is that recognizes that “Liliputians” are a reference to Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels…. not some Disney pap.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 09:56:36

OK…Dopey votes.. present!!

 
 
 

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 12:10:02

You support that crooked fraud and come here to call us delusional? Michelle was right, her husband (and his supporters) are pathetic.

 
 
 

Comment by jack, too | 2008-06-20 09:43:30

Cow goes Moo!

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:17:13

Winning VA? He barely cracked a point. His campaign is trying to round up every black, student and ex-con they can find to push his numbers. But 67% of the people who voted for him in the primaries were Republicans. He lost the SW of the state, only carrying 9% of the vote. There is a huge military presence in VA. Short of it: dream on.

 
 

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Comment by RJ | 2008-06-20 09:12:48

WTG Paula!!!!

WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER

McCain ‘08 (no matter who the dem VP is)

Comment by rjj | 2008-06-20 09:56:50

Not quite –

Obama’s opponent in the general election, Republican Sen. John McCain, can at least say that Kjellander and Cellini were supporters of Mitt Romney. While campaigning in Illinois, Romney made it clear that he’d get rid of U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald, who authorized the prosecution of Rezko.

RNC might make support contingent on Romney as VP.

Comment by rjj | 2008-06-20 09:59:27

if RJ is going to post a lot I will change my name to r.j-j. if my profanity is not sufficient to distinguish us.

 

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 13:00:05

Obama, McCain, and Hillary were all asked by one of the Chicago papers (Tribune or Sun Times) where they would replace U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. They each said that they would keep him on, McCain even commenting that Patrick Fitzgerald was doing a great job, and was being un-political and fair. I figured that Obama was just yanking my chain and one of his first official acts as pResident would be to fire the current U.S. attorney (the next being a commutation or pardon for Rezko). If McCain said this in Chicago, I’m very disappointed. A strong and independent U.S. Attorney in Chicago is required to drain the swamp. However, if McCain actually intends to remove Patrick Fitzgerald in order to nominate him as Attorney General, that would be sweet!

 
 

Comment by Jefferson | 2008-06-20 10:17:09

Was that “WTG” for keeping the darkies away from the Jefferson reunion?

She did do a good job there… made sure to keep those folks out of a respectable white institution.

WTG Paula!

 
 

Comment by zerostress | 2008-06-20 09:32:38

Not the Paula Abeles who is a white descendant of Thomas Jefferson, caught impersonating a black woman on the Internet trying to discourage the black descendants of Thomas Jefferson from attending the family reunion.

Comment by therestofus | 2008-06-20 09:39:03

What do you expect from this place?

This the place that takes umbrage when someone questions the credibility and veracity of the head fatass screeching about some video he knows someone who knows someone who said someone else saw a video where Michelle Obama said… something.

This is the place where a convicted - and still facing charges - liar, con artist, forger and all-around dishonest criminal makes outlandish claims, but gosh… we should still hear him out because, you know, he never said he wasn’t a liar, con artist, forger, and all-around dishonest criminal.

It’s Lord of the Flies for nutjobs…

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 09:51:41

That`s not a nice thing to say about Obama.

Comment by therestofus | 2008-06-20 09:54:53

ummmm…. piggy?

I didn’t give you the conch yet.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 10:18:53

Grumpy is here now

Comment by therestofus | 2008-06-20 10:35:56

tsk, tsk, piggy…

Please wait until you have the conch before speaking.

Comment by HARP | 2008-06-20 10:59:29

You are having delusions of adequacy.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:33:06

It’s Lord of the Flies for nutjobs…

We’re always happy to have a POS on the island. My God, but you stink!

 
 
 

Comment by jack, too | 2008-06-20 09:36:59

Like Bush, exactly like Bush, Obama’s campaign is truly that inept. While they encourage the violence, tacitly, they also don’t understand it, and they are very very lazy the internal dynamic highly chaotic, and unsophisticated, their own worst enemy.

Don’t doubt for a second these people are stupid, lazy and incompetent, most cheaters are.

Look at DK…

They are the type that need to be protected from themselves. As long as they have a parent type (sane democrats and republicans) to provide some structure, defining them by opposition, (as a parent would), they can exist.

The minute that stricture is removed, they start to fall, those types can’t care for themselves, they implode. It may take awhile, but they will fall.

Think of the USSR.

A group of infantile narcisstis got together and called it neocon republican, and democrat.

Who will nurture the group? They hate anything nurturing.

 

Comment by NEWS | 2008-06-20 09:41:25

HA!

I’ve got breaking news - David Duke says Obama would be bad for America…

Gonna front page that, too?

Noes, Noes, noes, noes… we’s not racist around here - we just happen to make a practice of citing racists to make our points, right SusanunHU/Hinged?

Comment by jack, too | 2008-06-20 09:45:49

No, David Duke is a kook, just like your crew.

You’re nuts, absolutely out of touch with reality, and embarrassingly amateur, for what you’ve chosen to take on.

For real.

Comment by NEWS | 2008-06-20 09:53:20

Heh.

Well, I wasn’t convinced… but then you tossed in ‘For Real’, so now I’m not so sure.

I’m thinking about coming around to your side of the asylum.

For real.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-06-20 11:29:04

I don’t see any difference between the Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Louis Farrakhan or David Duke.

For real.

But you win the lightning round on logic with your lolspeak. Noes, noes, noes, noes… count them - four times. I doff my cap to you, sirrah.

 
 
 
 

Comment by DancingOpossum | 2008-06-20 09:43:04

He’s obviously a Dem. He did the minimal to me.

As Mark Rubin pointed out, the thing to keep in mind is that Hillary suspended her campaign two weeks before Gore endorsed. Meaning the primary was over and he had to think for two weeks about who he’d endorse. I have to agree with that interpretation, LOL.

I still love Al and think he was only doing his duty as a loyal Dem. I’m also happy to NOT be seeing Bill and Hillary out stumping for BO.

Comment by jack, too | 2008-06-20 09:47:10

NO, it’s like co opting the Nazis, isn’t it?

It’s not OK to propagate corruption for the sake of your career, it has to be fought.

Too bad.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 13:10:05

Al Gore should have followed his instincts and stayed the hell out of the fight. If being a “loyal Democrat” meant issuing an endorsement for Obama, he should have waited until after he was nominated formally in Denver. And in any endorsement, it should have been abundantly clear that Al Gore was speaking his own mind and his own words, but the statement he gave was so obviously written or structured by the Obama campaign; using all the right buzzwords and meant to be as hurtful as possible to Hillary. The least he could have done was to pull an old prisoner of war tactic and blink out (in morse code) his true message that he was being coerced.

 
 
 

Comment by Carol | 2008-06-20 09:46:03

Hi Paula, saw you on fox today.

I too feel as strong as you do about Mr. BO. I am not afraid to voice my opinion and voice my disgust at the DNC, the Media, the “Panel of Experts” on cable tv and the Obama camp. I am appalled how the Democrats have treated the Clinton’s through this primary. If this much meanness and scathing remarks were directed to Bush, we might have impeached him by now, there would be no war, and the economy would be strong. How dare the Democrats treat one of the Best democratic presidents in history this way and with such disregard. And, to treat Hillary in the same way is so despicable. The DNC and all the experts seem to think that the women will “come around” ……..are they out of their minds. We women, for centuries and since the beginning of time……..have come around. We have had to “pick up the pieces” for the men in our lives, make things work for them, so that they can get all the glory. No, it is over for me, I am changing parties, I am voting for McCain.

The Dems would rather offend the women of this nation rather than the blacks……….are they scared of a riot? I think Nancy Pelosi wants to be the only one called Madame. Hillary is, by far, the most capable, competent and perfect person for the Presidency. How dare they promote this man with no experience at all. It is horrifying.

She is not only a women, but, the best there is.

Keep up the good fight. I am with you!

 

Comment by NJPUMA | 2008-06-20 10:50:28

It’s appalling to sit here and watch this video of this noble woman defending her decision against a gang of hired thugs. I just got my copy of US magazine featuring the Obamas on the cover as if they were some Hollywood icons, with the article fiercely painting them as average Americans. It’s very easy to see how the public buys into this cleverly portrayed perception. This, however, does not give them the right to break the law to get the vote. They’re a bunch of hypocrites, not effective leaders.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZydhWoEHCdM

 

Comment by R. Vaughan | 2008-06-20 11:18:37

I just wanted to post some information with respect to cyberstalking: this is from the site:
The National Center for Victims of Crime:

http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32458

“Recent federal law has addressed cyberstalking as well. The Violence Against Women Act, passed in 2000, made cyberstalking a part of the federal interstate stalking statute. Other federal legislation that addresses cyberstalking has been introduced recently, but no such measures have yet been enacted. Consequently, there remains a lack of legislation at the federal level to specifically address cyberstalking, leaving the majority of legislative prohibitions against cyberstalking at the state level (Wiredpatrol.org).

If you are a Victim:

Victims who are under the age of 18 should tell their parents or another adult they trust about any harassments and/or threats.
Experts suggest that in cases where the offender is known, victims should send the stalker a clear written warning. Specifically, victims should communicate that the contact is unwanted, and ask the perpetrator to cease sending communications of any kind. Victims should do this only once. Then, no matter the response, victims should under no circumstances ever communicate with the stalker again. Victims should save copies of this communication in both electronic and hard copy form.
If the harassment continues, the victim may wish to file a complaint with the stalker’s Internet service provider, as well as with their own service provider. Many Internet service providers offer tools that filter or block communications from specific individuals.
As soon as individuals suspect they are victims of online harassment or cyberstalking, they should start collecting all evidence and document all contact made by the stalker. Save all e-mail, postings, or other communications in both electronic and hard-copy form. If possible, save all of the header information from e-mails and newsgroup postings. Record the dates and times of any contact with the stalker.
Victims may also want to start a log of each communication explaining the situation in more detail. Victims may want to document how the harassment is affecting their lives and what steps they have taken to stop the harassment.

I think it is difficult but not impossible to stop people from doing this; this particular site is full of help and information. The other offense is “Cyber Bullying”, however current law only covers this for minors. It is a sad state when we cannot have the freedom to express our choices, without fear of attack regardless of the venue. I for one will not bow to this indtimidation. I was a democrat, I am no longer, and no amount of name calling or threats will change the way I will vote in November. I will be voting for Senator McCain. Fear is a useless tactic when you understand that is where the attacker is operating from, such fear of their own, there no longer is any self control. They don’t get my pity, nor understanding, clearly they are cowards. Most importantly they don’t can’t have my day, and will never have my vote. McCain, my choice, my vote, my freedom to choose.

 

Comment by R. Vaughan | 2008-06-20 11:30:05

More on Cyberstalking; this is a sample of California current code. Hope it helps.

California
Cal. Civil Code § 1708.7

SECTION 1. It is the intent of this act to clarify that electronic communications are included in the actions that can constitute the crimes of harassment and stalking. It is not the intent of the Legislature, by adoption of this act, to restrict in any way the types of conduct or actions that can constitute harassment or stalking.

SEC. 2. Section 1708.7 of the Civil Code is amended to read:
1708.7.

SEC. 3. Section 422 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
422. Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family’s safety, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

From the site:

http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/california.shtml

 

Comment by sandy | 2008-06-20 11:52:48

Can anybody here name one major accomplishment of hillary before questioning obama on the same???

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-06-20 13:17:49

I “cribbed” this from my archives:
http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/220892

*MCM–Mainstream Corporate Media (now augmented by Big Leftish Bloggerz!)
But the simple fact of the matter is this guys – Hillary IS ready to take that call, any time – anywhere. She’s been there when the call came in. She’s been to over 80 nations and met with heads of state and she’s played significant roles in the Irish Peace Process, opening the boarders of Kosovo to get refuges out, standing up to China during that UN Women’s Conference, and working tirelessly on behalf of women and children in the developing world.
Now I’ve written quite a bit about Hillary’s qualifications and readiness to take over once Junior’s reign of indifference and greed comes to an end next January. And people who know her better than I have posted articles on their own experiences with her over the years when it comes to these important issues. Take a look – there’s some relevant stuff here…
Hillary’s Huge Support Among The Top Brass - Hillary’s supporters testify as to her readiness to lead on day one in a conference call with supporters.
Sometimes It’s Not About You Barack - Hillary’s new ad.
Why Hillary’s Experience as First Lady Matters
Hillary and; Benazir Bhutto
Hillary’s Standing O At the UN
Hillary’s Irish Legacy - From the Irish Echo (Feb. 27 to Mar 4 Issue)
Hillary’s Unprecedented Experience on the World Stage - Melanne Verveer and Lissa Muscatine.
Why Hillary Clinton Will Restore America’s Standing in the World - Lissa Muscatine and Melanne Verveer.
There’s no doubt about it - this lady knows her stuff when it comes to foreign policy and our national security concerns. Check out her recent speech at Georgetown University, where she talks with confidence and knowledge of each and every detail on any related matter imaginable when it comes to these important matters.
Then there’s an article she wrote recently - Security and Opportunity for the Twenty-first Century - Foreign Affairs (Nov. - Dec. 27th)
Hillary’s got the backing of 30 generals and admirals – two of whom have sons currently serving in combat positions in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
In 2004 Hillary was asked by the Department of Defense to serve as the only Senate member of the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. The military wanted her on that committee - she was the only Senator invited to serve on this committee tasked with reforming the Pentagon.
Hillary’s said that when it comes to the general election, she and McCain will bring their many years of experience to the fight, and Obama will bring a speech. She didn’t say that to be mean to him, or with the intent of crippling our nominee (she still intends to be our nominee by the way), she just stated a fact.
And if anyone thinks McCain won’t be making that same argument about his own experience as compared to Obama’s when it comes to foreign policy and national security, they’re dreaming.

 
 

Comment by VictorLaszlo | 2008-06-20 14:00:52

Dancing like a monkey for Roger Ailes.

Yeah, that’s something to be proud of.

 

Comment by Lorie | 2008-06-20 14:13:24

Please help me get this out, post it everywhere. We cannot let this peice of crap in our White house. Maybe this will help people see the light.
Can this be so??? Remembering helps!
A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history.
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by– you guessed it– Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people…
Absolutely No Profiling!

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President’s security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,

but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

According to The Book of Revelations:

The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.

And Now:
For the award winning
Act of Stupidity
Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet —
The Presidency of the United states of America

A Muslim
Male
Extremist
Between
the ages
of 17 and 40.

Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???

I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the ‘unknown’ candidate Obama…
Let’s send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves — if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story ‘Forrest Gump’ so aptly put it,
‘Stupid
Is
As
Stupid Does.’

Comment by secularhumanizinevoluter | 2008-06-20 14:53:45

JEEBUS CRISPIES you’re just as bugfuck lonneytunes as ANY of the other side!

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 16:30:17

And Now:
For the award winning
Act of Stupidity
Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet —
The Presidency of the United States

Thank you Lorie — Powerfully written chronology- Interesting that we won’t allow an 80 year old American grandmother on a plane without a strip search however, we have no problem electing a muslim president–during a time of war against muslim extremists.

 

Comment by halodayz | 2008-09-02 01:03:17

dude, you are so full of shit, i think you should have lived during the 18th century. you would have felt safer knowing blacks were slaves.

and obama is NOT muslim, he went to a school in indonesia as a young child and he has been photographed wearing traditional clothing while on FOREIGN RELATIONS visits during his time on the FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE!

 
 

Comment by secularhumanizinevoluter | 2008-06-20 14:55:20

Aaaaah, how would you discribe Timothy McVieh?

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 15:18:20

I think there is some buyer’s remorse going on with Democrats now that we have watched them change from a party who counted the votes to one who decides whose votes a going to count. DNC you selected your candidate and now you have to deal with the chasm within the party.

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-06-20 16:23:15

Larry and Susan — Thank you for this blog. It means so much to us. You guys are the best.

 

Comment by Lady | 2008-06-21 01:04:34

Thank you, Paula, for standing up.

 

Comment by ChumpedDemocrat | 2008-06-22 14:38:55

Thank you, Paula, for telling your story — our story — on main stream news. Thanks to Fox News and Cavuto, although some of the questioning was a bit strange. Thanks to Larry and Susan. Hillary might be the eventual choice of the Convention after all when BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, THE FIRST UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE OF A NATIONAL PARTY, disintegrates from grandiosity and pathological lying.

 

Comment by Ray | 2008-09-22 21:40:43

Keep Racism alive! Let the rich get richer! Vote McCain! FOX News rules! Global warming is a lie! Destroy the planet! The Rapture is coming! What are you people, frickin Aliens?

 

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