A Response to Salon’s Story on PUMA: The Most Important Reason Clinton Voters Will Not Support Senator Obama
By Ani on June 23, 2008 at 1:40 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Axelrod, FISA, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, Iraq, Israel, MoveOn.org, NAFTA, Qualifications, Race Card, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Women and Children
Salon magazine published an article today: “Will Clinton supporters vote for Obama?,” by Rebecca Traister. The story’s subtitle: “The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.”
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Here is the main thing your article fails to take into account, and the main thing every single media outlet in this country likewise ignores: The number one reason we will not support Senator Obama for President is that he is not qualified for the job.
Surprised? Let’s examine this more closely.
This man has missed over 40% of his votes in the Senate. If one examines the votes he has missed, they actually are politically risky and require moral courage. So far, he has exhibited little.
He voted “present” 130 times in the Illinois State Legislature and voted “wrong” six times, i.e., he said “oops, I accidentally pressed the wrong button” — so either he is incapable of multitasking, or he is dishonest, just making choices for political expediency.
Aah. Thou hast hit it. What are the clues to his actions as nothing more than political expedience and opportunism:
A man who sits in a divisive and racist church for 20 years and lies about his knowledge of the contents of these sermons, then throws the church under the bus when it becomes politically critical for him to do so.
A man who is closely associated with the likes of the convicted criminal Tony Rezko, buys a house with his help, receives $250K in campaign contributions and allows Rezko’s slum holes to flourish in his State Senate district while likewise claiming ignorance — yet lies before the American people and says he barely knows the man and only did five hours of work for him years ago.
I will not even delve into his long working relationship with the man from the Weather Underground, ex-terrorist Bill Ayers, which he has likewise downplayed and/or denied.
This is a man with a questionable record on women’s rights, voting ‘present’ numerous times, who has also said “many pro-choice Democrats don’t understand that abortion is a wrenching moral issue.” Really? How insulting.
This is a Democrat who campaigns in South Carolina with Donnie McClurkin, an “ex-gay” man “reformed through prayer.” I wonder to whom Senator Obama was pandering in that state?
This is a man who runs slightly to the left of Hillary Clinton only to flip flop on every position he originally took including: public financing, FISA, his positions of Iraq withdrawal, the Iran threat, Israel, NAFTA and more.
Senator Obama is a man who insults the Bill Clinton presidency, a time of peace and prosperity, while extolling virtues of the disastrous Reaganomics. He calls himself a Democrat?
Most devastating, Senator Obama is a man who, together with his campaign manager and surrogates advantage themselves at every opportunity by playing the race card unjustly.
Senator Obama is the product of splendid marketing. Nothing more. Even MoveOn.Org, naively endorsing him without vetting his true positions, is starting to turn on him — realizing that, they too, have served their purpose and are now going to be thrown under the bus as he must move to the center to shore up his flagging presidential bid, as his initial “American Idol” appeal is now waning.
So, please, do all of us ‘bitter’ voters a favor and stop mischaracterizing our motives. Some of us actually have principles and put our country before our party. We care deeply about America and about our fellow citizens of every background. We would like a person of solid character with a consistent record and sensible, coherent policies to lead our nation. Someone with a 35 year history of working for the rights of children, women, veterans’ benefits, first responders, health care and education. Someone who will take a tough stand on the issues and have the courage of his or her convictions.
For your information, I have just described Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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See my previous story here, “An Open Letter to Vice President Gore.”
But this is the one that just jumps out at you. Obama (voting “present”) did not vote yes or no on a bill that would allow certain victims of sexual crimes to petition judges to seal court records relating to their cases. Obama cast the lone present vote in a 58-to-0 vote. Obama’s campaign said he believed that the bill violated the First Amendment. The bill passed 112-0-0 in the House and 58-0-1 in the Senate. He was the ONLY vote not in support of sex crime victims! There is just no excuse or rationale for that. Is he the ONLY person in the entire legislature to see that the First Amendment violates the right to privacy of the victim? And which part of the Amendment is violated? Religion? Speech? Assembly? Press? Petition? When I stumbled upon this in the Trib article, I just stopped. It is so important to victims of sexual crimes – be they men or women – that nothing you say or do after that point of departure is meaningful. It is a callous lack of regard for the human and humane rights of someone once victimized. And there is no way to explain “present.” None.
I’d like to see someone with the guts to ask specifically about this particular “present” vote (in detail) during a debate and ask Obama to explain his rationale.
This emply suit has absolutely NO business being a candidate for president!
You summed up my thoughts precisely with this….
“The number one reason we will not support Senator Obama for President is that he is not qualified for the job.”
Thank you.
Hmmmmm…..That was my # 1 reason until I realized Obama is a FASCIST…..He is corrupt. GOOD ARTICLE.
**** OBAMA IS UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ****
Beautifully written piece.
Yes, he is not qualified, but the fact that he doesn’t realize his inadequacy for the position is what is really frightening. It’s #43 all over again.
Let’s send suggestions to McCain’s camp about what to ask Obama.
I despise Barackula, just loathe him and what his supporters I know are starting to understand about me is that I won’t come around. Ever. See for me, it was never that I was so much pro Hillary, although I did like her and am a huge supporter now, having watched her power and strength for months. No see, the problem with me is that I’m not exactly pro Hillary. For me it’s always been that I am Anti Obama. You can’t chnage that either. no VP pick or Roe v. Wade scare or issues can undo the fact that the guy gives me the creeps and I see him as a blatantly narcissistic, arrogant, lying, con man! He can’t change that no matter what. I am 100% pure Anti Obama. I will not ever knowingly elect a fraud as POTUS. Never. Let me repeat just to be clear, never!
probably just mis-pressed one of those pesky darn ol’ button thingys again.
Hey, how about a YouTube video about some of Obama’s more blatant “present” votes and his “oops, I pressed the wrong button” votes? Flineo — this is a suggestion for you!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/20/america/20obama.php?page=2
Used to read the International Herald Tribune when I lived in London … why are the best journalists not in America?
It proves that Obama is only interested in political expedience. he takes both sides of every issue so he can tell the voters on both sides that he is on their side.
There is a post today at Riverdaughter responding to the Salon article as well, and the emphasis in that post regards the fundamental issue of Obama’s illegitimacy as the nominee due to a manipulated primary process.
For me, his inexperience was the initial reason I was not drawn to him. That has became more apparent as a liability during the debates and the primary season. He does not understand diplomacy–even within his own party–or know how to manage conflict. Then, I started to notice the overbearing arrogance in many different instances. Oh: and don’t forget the weak character, race-baiting, sexist contempt, and continuous lying.
These all add to the conviction that he is unsuitable for the presidency, but like the Riverdaughter post, for me the most basic issue is the unethical and manipulative behavior of the Obama Campaign and the DNC. The disenfranchisement of 2 states (until it was politically convenient to include their delegates in an fraudulent manner), and the RBC’s lack of integry and principle is non-negotiable. They ignored the will of the people, violated their own Party Charter, and decided to carry him across the finish line, selecting the nominee for us. For that reason alone, I will never vote for him and endorse the party’s abuse of power.
This defies understanding.
And if he believes so much in Freedom of Speech, why has he hired his Internet gang to shut us up???
The Obama Rules
1. If his mouth moves, he’s lying.
2. If he writes anything, he’s plagiarizing.
3. If he’s against something, he’s really for it but only as
far as it will help him.
4. If he’s for something, see above and invert.
5. If you disagree with him, you are a racist.
Feel free to add on. There have to be sub-groups of all of these.
The Jelloman (AKA: BOBO the magnificent)rules
1. If his mouth moves, he’s lying.
2. If he writes anything, he’s plagiarizing.
3. If he’s against something, he’s really for it but only as
far as it will help him.
4. If he’s for something, see above and invert.
5. If you disagree with him, you are a racist.
6: BOBO will never say to the camera what he can get his campaign to say to thousands of reporters behind the scenes.
7.If he calls you “sweetie”, he means, stay out of my way and behave, if you want me to call on you.
oooooh! to quote Merv Griffin
I like that one a lot!
Well if Tim Russert had done his job (you know the one that everyone said he was passionate about) I think he would have brought up some of this important information.
Hmmmmmmmmm! Why didn’t he?
cause he worked for GE, immelt , also, sam nunn-board member there board member of Chevron, Iran, Iraq Venezuela oil hmmmm
GE does business with Iran..
uhm hmmmm
Hi Beebop, I have a friend who is challenging me when I say that Obama has no record of supporting women’s rights. She refers me to the Naral website. Do you have a link to the information you are giving above?
I’d also appreciate from anybody other links that give any info on Obama’s actual voting record on reproductive. sex-crime victims or women’s rights.
The link is there from the International Herald Tribune. Your friend needs to do some research! Hope doesn’t make it so!
The Independents website lists voting records for all politicians. Go there. It is great!
When the NARAL PAC endorsed Obama over Hillary Clinton they had a massive revolt of their members and because of it they have lost tens of thousands of members and donations. It’s Hillary who’s good on women’s rights repro or otherwise.
Over on John McCain’s website a few weeks ago, he had a little quiz about the differences between his and Obama’s voting records. One of the questions was, “Who was the only senator to vote against the ban on human cloning?” The answer was Senator Obama, and Obama was quoted as saying, “I pushed the wrong button.”
I sure don’t want that man anywhere near any buttons that might launch a nuclear attack. Do you?
Probably, Obama wants to clone himself. He didn’t press the wrong button. He wants the Obamas from Brazil. ( had to change the title of that movie, to prevent be accused of being a racist, not that that would stop his followers. Hell, to them the word fairytale is racist. Personally, I think he was offended by the word “Fairy”, since he’s is still in the closet.)
LOL….Perhaps he already has and the Obama Clones just cannot get
their actions and facts straight…..Hmmm let’s see…..
Obama clone # 1 – great teleprompting skills. Lousy at improvisation.
Obama clone # 2 – may be prone to joy riding in Limo’s.
Obama clone # 3 – Enhanced jive dancin skills but poor bowler.
Obama clone # 4 – Enjoys waffles but poor ability to control pouting.
How many clones could there be……chuckle…..curiouser and curiouser….
How many clones? As many as it takss…and in his case it takes a village.
that’s hella funny.
beebop-
I dont think he can cast a positive vote when it comes to womens rights, which most sexual crimes are commited by men against women, that would go against his true beliefs. That of saria law. Racist, Marxist, antisemitic, dishonest and the list goes on and on. Same reason he can’t put his hand on his heart while pledging allegance to our flag or why he can’t wear the lapel.This is what I have come to believe. He will throw each and every supporter of his under the bus. He just needs to be through with them. Why we can see his true colors and so many others can’t. Already so many with voters remorse. I can’t believe it has gone this far. Brazile, Oprah, Pelosi and the like should read what you have posted hear. How could they be so naive? GOD BLESS AMERICA….
The author writes a piece about how Obama makes politically expedient decisions when voting, and you back it up with an example of when he was the only one to not vote in favor of a bill.
Wouldn’t the politically expedient thing have been to vote along with everyone else? Seems he is wrong for going with the crowd and wrong for going against it.
Of course there is a way to explain it, for instance his floor statement at the time. He was actually a sponsor of the Senate Bill but when the language was changed he felt it violated the First Amendment and he explained why.
The “present” vote really was an accepted tactical measure in the Illinois senate although Obama did a crummy job explaining that. Usually it was done in a larger group but Obama was the sole several times and either solo or in a group of 6 or less voting present 36 times. There is almost always a floor statement on the record and when he was the lone present vote it was almost always constitutional.
Look whenever there was a claim made for or against one of our candidates I researched it. The Present votes sound bad but they are not, it didn’t mean undecided, Several papers have researched the votes and there was just one they felt might be him being unwilling to take a side for political reasons, just before he rab against Rush for US Rep. (Not this vote) One of the articles I remember was in the NY Times and it was called “It’s Not Just ‘Ayes’ and ‘Nays’”
When Obama doesn’t even know how many states are in the United States, what type of allegiance does he have with this country?
amen!!!
don’t forget for one minute that this isn’t a fight either… we must fight for the country’s sake against Obama and his band of crooks…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Obama is a liar. Obama and a pliant Democratic congress would be the death of this country.
Does anyone remember what happened when the Republicans controlled both the legislature and the executive?
I believed Clinton could stand up to the Dem congress, but I know Obama will not. He has no principles, he changes as the political wind blows.
I want divided government. By all estimations the Dems will increase their numbers in congress. I will vote for McCain in order to have checks and balances. Let the two party’s fight it out, and come up with compromises. I do not want to see what the Dem congress will rubber stamp for Obama.
Divided Government ‘08′!!!
On the chance that Obama is elected, for the first time in my life I’m voting republican. And not just for the presidential slot, but all the way down ticket. On the chance that Obama is elected, I want as many republicans down ticket as we can get.
Gotta say I agree. McCain is not my “protest” vote. I truly believe he is the better candidate when against Obama. My protest votes will be the down ticket dems — namely any dem that openly supported Obama during the primary.
Neither of mine are protest votes, but are more towards trying to keep the checks and balances in order as much as possible.
also agree
same here. Check & balance.
I do NOT TRUST Obama. He is a disrespectful,egoistic PHONY!
Not fitted to be the POTUS of my great country.
America needs a break from another incompetent,deceitful,dishonest leader, whose,”opps, I press the wrong button,” is so SCARY!
An 8th grader is smarter than Obama: 57 states!
Spoken like a true democrat.
Mawn, What a great idea! Oh, wait…what you suggest is simply the reinstatement of our checks and balances as our forefathers intended. Well, you’re still brilliant–it’s a concept long forgotten by too many!
P.S. LOVED the Constitution they wrote, didn’t you? I highly recommend it to all Americans as a great and informative read. Heck, I even recommend it to politicians!
)
Obama is a Political Coward! Always was and always will be! Those of us here in Illinois that have PAID attention to this man know this all too well!
He votes when it is politically convenient for him to do so and he does not when it suits his needs! he is nothing more than a Political Slug! PERIOD!
Yup, I totally agree with the quoted reasons!
NOBAMA EVER!
Amen from me!
This was the most condenscending article I have read in quite awhile.
yes the Salon piece is right up there with NBC jackaxx Capus saying women will come back to MSNBC b/c they have nowhere else to go..
heard of Fox Capus? moron..
Walter Shapiro’s companion article about how we will all come home because we have nowhere to go was even more infuriating. At least Rebecca Traister offered some of the reasons that we are , lets say , UPSET!
Both writers came to the same “nowhere to go” conclusion however. This just tells you that if we don’t vote for McCain, the Dems will never get it and we’ll be outside the loop forevermore.
OH! I just had to remark and break from reading to comment after seeing this ““Will Clinton supporters vote for Obama?,” by Rebecca Traister. The story’s subtitle: “The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.””
Are the only ones in the B O Camp delusional? We ARE home. They’ve taken over the Club House to make their own rules, drink and deny reality. We choose not be be a member of their Club, that’s all. After all, someone is going to have to get back to real responsibility when they’re done playing house.
OK, now back to read the rest.
When Salon publishes this stuff, it’s all the more reason to create an even more powerful backlash against Obama. Talk to your friends and neighbors and warn them about Barackuda.
Government should go back to its strictly constitutional functions. To put it bluntly, quit taxing one man at gunpoint to put a check in the hands of another man.
Hi Ron Paul – what are you doing here?
Let me put it this way, with apologies for tweaking a little saying of the late RFK.
I look at liars already in public office, and ask why.
Others look at liars not yet elected, believe them and ask: why not?
John, wouldn’t you enjoy watching Barky and Howard take that writer’s bullshit advice, just so you could watch them bleed?
Uppity:
I sent you an e-mail. Don’t know if you got it but any help you can toss my way, I would be forever in your debt.
Me too!
“When Salon publishes this stuff, it’s all the more reason to create an even more powerful backlash against Obama.”
Exactly.
These Obamabots in the media still haven’t learned to keep their ignorant, arrogant big mouths shut.
Please remember Hillary will now have to say “nice nice” to EMPTYSUIT. That’s the way it works.
Don’t forget in November all the lies.
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.
The media, the DNC and the Obamabots are still in denial. I thought they had moved on to anger, but they have regressed back to denial. None of them want to admit the truth. I think accepting the truth would shatter their world view that they’ve created for themselves.
They won’t be in anger until they lose in Nov. Then watch the finger pointing as they tear themselves apart.
There was an intersting take at Real Clear Politics that they always blame the messenger. Looks like this time there will be plenty of messengers to take a hit.
“The media, the DNC and the Obamabots are still in denial. I thought they had moved on to anger, but they have regressed back to denial. None of them want to admit the truth. I think accepting the truth would shatter their world view that they’ve created for themselves.”
Definitely.
They’re deep in denial. I think that they will progress quickly to anger and bargaining in late August if/when the Supers officially hand Mr. Flim-Flam the nomination and more Hillary supporters throw their support behind McCain during the Republican convention about a week after the Democratic convention.
Five months will not be enough for Obama and his sleazy minions everywhere to erase the memories of their scummy behavior and the blatant hijacking & theft of the Democratic nomination. Many are still in deep anger about Bush and thieving Republicans stealing the Presidency – and that was EIGHT YEARS ago. So kool-aid drinkers thinking that all will be forgotten in November is simply ridiculous.
OH YEAH! Well said Ani and thrilled to put my name on this post in agreement!
so what’s wrong with vindictive?
bitter is a tad passive. it must be wishful thinking on their part.
They just HOPEY we won’t vote against him … the polls will show them that we not changey our thinking with regard to the Big Stinky!
they confuse bitter angry with committed and determined
The BOBOweenies seem to see all things opposing their dear beloved jelloman, BOBO the magnificent as bitter, hateful, or racist.. LOL even the traffic lights.
I will not support Obama or vote for him!It’s a sad day when we have a great democrat as Hillay R Clinton and in which she has won the big states and bell weather states and more and now they want to use senator Hillary R.Clinton to help Obama win the states that Obama did not.
We all saw and heard all the treatment and the planned election from Donna Brazile-Howard Dean said.
I would think they wanted a democratic to win.Hillary was that person but with the bashing-msnbc and more Hilalry stil won hands down.It’s really not that they want a democart-It’s which one the democratic candidate they want to win.but that one was
And she won the popular vote.
A man and a woman are living in the same house. The man lies to a woman and dispects her in every way possible. The woman has had enough. She finally leaves the house.
And she doesn’t come back.
She’s still too angry to go back home. But she’ll eventually get over it and come back to daddy.
PUMA
Barack Obama is the kind of guy who thinks he can break her jaw and then come home later with flowers.
Uppity-
I believe that is his mentality. That is why he is married to the kind of woman as mo. She has that entitlement mentality which fits right into his type. She is always the victim. Pittiful isn’t it?
Ghetto Presidential Seals, Chocolate Cities, All Whites Off The US Dollars. 40 oz bottles on the White House Lawn, People we got to stop this Obama madness. Rappers are already talking about Freak Neek up in the White House. Obama wants a Ghetto World…Jay Z singing Got 99 problems but a bitch aint 1. DJ Quick spinning the joint Bitch Better Have My Money and Farrakhan and Wright leading the White House Prayers On How To Beat Whitey Azz Today.
Go away Fred. Your comments are not part of a civilized discussion.
Although Fred’s comment is out of line, it does raise an important point. I’m tired of Dean’s DNC and the BO campaign viewing everything through racist glasses. Us criticizing him has nothing to do with the fact that he’s Mulatto. He’s incompetent; period.
But you know, I’m a typical white person, right?
The Obama campaign keeps instigating the RACE CARD, and then blames the opposition.
Obama, “and did I mention that he’s black”.
Obama and Axelcrap have a strategy to get the Black Vote pumped up for a high turnout, and get the White Guilt Sympathy vote. It worked in the primary, but will likely backfire in the General.
Why? No one wants to be called a racist from someone standing on a racist pulpit.
Most whites are going to tell Spike Lee to cram his Chocolate City up his Chocolate Ass.
Spike Lee and the Hip Hop Gansta Culture is a loser for Obama.
But that is what the O’boy campaign will get for fanning the flame of the RACE CARD.
BTW – A high black turnout at best could win Obama the popular vote concentrated in the large cities. But he will lose the votes in the key swing states, and lose in the Electoral College.
Fred is just giving us the scenario created by Obama & his supporters, who is using the race card since day one. To the surprise of sane voters, it worked!
I am so burnt-out hearing the Obamas, DNC, Chicago dirty political machine using the race card. Obama is getting once again the free pass from the media.
Never do they talk sense about issues. Flip-flop, YES!
Is this what Obama means when he says “Change”?
Pathetic! Michelle is right.
The pissed off electorate is a lot more silent than you are big guy. They will give you your message on November 4.
So many real life people seem to offer anecdotes about disenchanted Dems that they know, more often than not, longtime ones. It is hard to know exactly how many of us are out there, but the subject just doesn’t seem to go away, so I doubt that its a phantom issue.
I guess we will only know for sure on Nov. 4 how much staying power it has. My guess is that based on how the Dems are telling us to get over it and Obama doesn’t really want to waste any of his precious time assuaging Hillary supporters, it will not go away in time for the election. Heck, many of us are still smarting about the obvious chicanery of the 2000 debacle — what’s a few months?
Now that’s funny.
Agreed. Barak is a fraud to his supporters but we see him very clearly. It has been very educational though. I though that Black Liberation Theology had disappeared along with the Black Panthers and that people decided to put civil rights into action. Good to know that Farrakhan and his ilk are still screaming about white devils. He sets civil rights back 100 years.
And sets back women’s issues in the workplace about 50 years.
Obama can’t campaign with that JayZ song anymore. It turns out Michelle is a problem.
lol
Don’t forget them baggy ass pants with their underwear showing.
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Oh yeah. We’ve seen so much of the “white” side of Barack Obama. Hmmmmmmm. Ninety Nine Problems and the Bitch Ain’t One!
Only one problem and it’s that bastard.
LITTERALLY!
Just as I predicted last week. Next flip will be now he’s more white than black. Whether it comes out of his pandering lips or not, the inference is right there in front of you. It’s made to appeal to liberal white guilt and those who can pat themselves on the back for being racially inclusive. In the meantime, he kisses up to BLT and Farrakhan. He’s disgusting.
Yeah, down is up, wrong is right, backward is forward, white is black and black is white. It’s almost Roveian.
Oh, oh! Wasn’t it said that if he were a white man he’d have never gotten this far? I agree with Ferraro BTW. Anyway, he might want to stay black. If he’s white, he just looks inexperienced compared to McCain. Not to mention Black is the only thing he really had going for him.
White Obama, black Obama, split personality? Yes.
The Dem elites were thinking that they were brilliant strategist to anoint a candidate that had no prior political record that could burden the candidate to an unpopular single issue or be used by the opponent to attack the candidate, thus the specter of another Kerry-like flip-flopper would be mitigated. Ah , well, the best laid plans and all that, the razor thin resume just opened a Pandora’s box of other problems.
When there is no record to run on, the candidate can be whatever he wants to be and by defining the candidacy only in the negative (as being only against that what currently is) the voters will project the their own beliefs and positions into those of the candidate, even though the candidate may have an unstated position in opposition.
The Obama candidacy reminds my of an old joke. An accountant, a mathematician and a lawyer were interviewing for the same job. The recruiter asked each of them privately the same question, how much is 2+2?
The accountant responded, in my profession numbers are absolute, so an absolute 2 plus an absolute 2 is absolutely 4.
The mathematician responded, in my profession numbers express a range of probabilities, so a probable 2 plus a probable 2 is probably between 3 and 5.
The lawyer upon being asked, jumped from his chair, drew the blinds and curtains shut on all the windows, cracked open the door and peeked outside then bolted it shut. He then walked over to the front of the recruiter’s desk, his hands grasped to the front edge of the desk, leaned forward and with a steely eyed gaze into on the eyes of the recruiter in a low voice asks “how much do you want it to be?”
Actually that joke is about “how to select an accountant”.
Three accountants are asked how much two plus two is. The punch line is from the third accountant – “How much do you need it to be?”
Nice adaptation though.
This one suits the lawyer we despise, Obama.
However, replace the cautious, sneaky one to Obama’s “in your face, I do not care attitude” and America gets a very dangerous leader.
Hillary or McCain ‘08 !
GREAT POST! Thank you. We should all (with your permission) cut and paste this at HuffyPot (where they discuss this article) and Salon.
Maybe – just maybe – if they see it 1,000,000 times, they’re stop and listen.
But notice I said “maybe”.
I am not that audacious to hope!
If you are still here and want to repost — help yourself — please credit ‘Ani’. The more people that see the facts, the better.
It already is on Salon by the way, but take to HuffPo if you like.
Many thanks.
LDW Please excuse me I thought because I was a black man I was entitled to say anything I chose. You know “Its A Black Thing”
you know if fred was not exaggerating his last comment, then maybe it was something that we should have seen and put up for discussion
Own your candidate Fred. No more diversions. No more blaming somebody else. No more changing the subject. No more Race Card. Own your candidate.
The Duplicitous Panderer is giving a speech today on Women’s Issues. As if a pig like him cares.
Pander someplace else, Barky. We know what you are. You gave yourself away long ago.
Did he get permission from Michelle to go?
Is he? Now that’s funny!
he is on a 3 day Wooing Working Women Tour
talking about Title IX on his site suddenly I hear
guess they read REV AMYs post here, we know they read it
Ani must better (and more accurate) post then the Salon mag article.
Many thanks to all of you who are keeping this movement going strong!! Your leadership is amazing!
NOBAMA 2008
And here’s what Bill said (or rather didn’t)
But her husband has not publicly endorsed the presumptive Democratic nominee to succeed President George W. Bush. Asked by journalists when he might do so, Clinton smiled and shook hands with spectators without acknowledging he heard the question.
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bing, bang, boom
Did he really? I love Big Dog!!!! I hope he shuns them totally. HRC I forgive….anything.
right on
WE LOVE YOU HILLARY
WE LOVE YOU BIG DAWG
BOOYAH!!
HILLYEAH!!!
Go Big Bill! Stiff the creeps. They turned on you like week old milk. Screw them.
He also commented that although he preferred Obama’s environmental program, that McCain was doing a lot more on the issue than Republicans have done in the past.
Is he just being honest and/or sending us a subtle messasge here?
God Bless the Clinton family for facing with dignity, the humiliations and sufferings they received in their desire to serve the country.My family & I feel the pain, President Bill Clinton,First Lady & Senator Hillary & Chelsea. We love & miss you !
Come home????!!! All along I never realized I WASN’T home at all. I have NEVER had my rights trampled up in the way Barack Obama and his surrogates have tried to do. I watched Howard Dean and Barack Obama not only DO nothing, but participate. No, I don’t have to “come home”. The Democratic party was never my home. They just used me by flaunting issues like Roe v Wade in my face, when in fact they are not even issues at all. No, the Democratic party was never Home. It was just a place where they used women to do their dirty work and bring in their votes. I just never realized it till now.
…. run the polling places, make the calls … yeah, pretty sad treatment in return.
The Obama Girl will make his calls for a price.
Okay … this is the THIRD TIME I have tried to post this … guess the blog doesn’t like NYTimes link?
She DIDN’T VOTE! Hahahahahahahaha ….
Exactly what will happen in November when you rely on kids!
So, did the “Obama Girl” actually vote for Barack Obama on Tuesday?
Actually, no.
Last summer, the music video “I Got a Crush on Obama” was a Web hit, splashing a seductive performance by a 26-year-old model named Amber Lee Ettinger across millions of screens and prompting deep thoughts about candidates and sex appeal, the YouTube generation of voters, viral marketing and so forth.
On Tuesday night, City Room ran into Ms. Ettinger at an election-watching party in Greenwich Village and asked how things went at the polls.
“I didn’t get a chance to vote today because I’m not registered to vote in New York,” she said.
So where is Obama Girl registered to vote?
“New Jersey.”
Um, but didn’t New Jersey also hold a primary?
True. The problem, she explained, was that she was sick in New York City and was unable to get back across the Hudson River to the polls in Jersey City.
“I was in Arizona for the Super Bowl — every time I get in the airplane I get sick,” said Ms. Ettinger, who did manage to make it to the Svedka Fembot election returns party at Chinatown Brasserie. (The Fembot campaign for the White House, the Svedka marketing manager assured us, is not a commentary in any way on Hillary Rodham Clinton, who defeated Mr. Obama in both New York and New Jersey.)
Ms. Ettinger said she had dragged herself out Tuesday night under duress only because she was scheduled to perform at the Bowery Poetry Club. The previous day she had hit the streets of New York to interview voters, where a Daily News photographer snapped her picture on Park Avenue.
And how did she feel about missing the opportunity to cast her ballot for her one and only? “I’m a little upset but I really couldn’t help it today,” she said mournfully.
Well, she might get another chance in November. Or not.
beebop; put your link in quotes if that occurs.
Got it!
“http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/obama-girl-didnt-vote/”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxbbhRl40Tc
Here’s a better one it’s her interview. See what she says starting at 1:30. She said I’m actually voting in PA and the primary didn’t happen in PA.
This girl is confused just like her idol. Too many coke, maybe.Come November, she’ll not know whether she is in the 50th state or 57th.”Where did I register last summer?”
We did not leave the Party, the Party left us.
Obama splains it all to the wimmins:
I had a mother. I have a grandmother.
Wimmins (as they golf clap) “Well that settles it. He has my vote.”
PUMA
“I’m married to a woman.”
golf clap
“And I created two little girls from the seed of my loins.”
golf clap
LOL! Arabella. And I hardly leave any marks on her and the kids.
Michelle likes it when he lays into her fat rump.
I refuse to so much as glance at the transcript. Please tell me he didn’t say that.
Arabella, you are hillaryous!
PUMA, strong yet graceful in repose!
LMAO!!!!
Ani,
Great read, I appreciate your ability to bring out so much of what many of us having been seeing for a very long time. The media in all forms has become an addict-like persona, looking for the next fix, of attention, as they have become part of the story, instead of either investigating or reporting. I truly believe, good old-fashioned boycotts, can work. We all know money talks; and while expressing our views helps us keep our sanity, a great amount of slander and harrassment has been allowed for way too long regarding the campaigns. I recall in February of this year writing a letter to complain of a violent rape suggesting remark I had read regarding Senator Clinton. I never heard a whisper.
When I say boycott, it is about the news channels and the internet sites, but it is also about looking at companies that support these candidates that are at the lowest level of any form of morality. It’s about voting for your country, not a party. Finally, I will mention my role in being against the war, a few years ago, I expressed my upset, and I can count on one hand during that time, how many people were supportive. I had to remain quiet or I was considered unpatriotic. It wasn’t about not supporting our troops, it was about not supporting the act of war. Much like what we hear now it’s not about not supporting a candidate because of race, but rather because of lack of experience.
The very least of my expectations of a candidate for President, is someone who knows where the buttons are, can understand what they are labeled, before pushing any of them…….Remember the first person we actually saw cruelly swiftboated was Senator McCain, endlessly in the 1999/2000 primaries. It made my stomach turn then. These older hands will not vote for anyone near the name of Obama, it has never been in my nature to favor disrespect, lying or cheating. Great site, and a safe site for those of us who will not go back “home”. The DNC took a big poop in it and it has been condemned as far as I am concerned.
Is this the person who will be in charge of pushing that nuclear button, and then says: ooops, mistake???!!!
Sorry, pushed the wrong button!
Wait, Obama never says sorry.
It would be someone else’s fault. Maybe Michelle’s.
Katmoon,
Thank you for your reply.
I am glad to see so many out here in the blogosphere are not taken in. I hope they will all feel free to continue to express those feelings on other less friendly sites and to the news media as well.
He has limited experience. He has demostrated poor judgement and he is a “typical politican” who has tried to market himself as a cut above the rest. BTW I really, really don’t like his Camp Obama seal. It gives me the creeps!
He’s also a liar. He can’t even keep his own lies straight.
He doesn’t need to. His followers don’t care that he lies. So he probably doesn’t try to keep them straight.
All I can say is that Bob Barr must be an Obama Supporter. And if you look hard enough you may find that he gets his campaign support from Obama and Moveon.
Anyone voting for Barr is voting for Obama.
Yeah and the Green party is McCain’s friend too.
You are not going to see Repubs vote for Barr they way Dems voted for Nader. They will not vote for a sure loser.
They know Barr has no shot and their revulsion for Obambi will overwhelm any misgivings about McCain.
I think by the time November comes rolling around that the Republicans (new and old) will understand how important every single vote is. Barr won’t go far.
I sure hope you’re right. I don’t like the idea of Bob Barr syphoning ANY votes from McCain. If we can’t have Hillary, McCain MUST beat Obama.
I hope I’m right too. But think about it. Barr would pull far right conservatives away from voting for McCain. Are far right conservatives in such disdain of this country that they would chance Obama as president?
and Barr IIRC, just an aside, knocked a female off the libertarian ballot by running as Lib, she a LONG TIME Lib and very popular, she would have won and been running..
Iant stand Barr due to the Impeachment BS
anotehr frakin around and throwing stones, Ixt
Mccain or Hillary for me
but hope we can get mccain to drop that guy on his security team that Larry was talking abo
This is the same thing my husband said to me last night. He’s a diehard Republican so we don’t have a whole lot of political discussions. Unless it’s me telling him what I think he should think.
Anyway he said that he respects McCain, but he thinks McCain is a little too liberal..(Ok, I know you secretly supported Rudy Giuliani. He really did.) I said well you can vote for Barr. He said and throw away my vote so Obama gets elected? I don’t think so.
I agree totally with the response to Salon. But, I don’t think they’ll get it. They don’t want to. I got a new email from Hillary, so I’m going to donate. I hope she gets enough to retire he debt. I’m so sick of seeing Obama’s supporting in threads saying she needs him.
Dang! I’m sorry that’s her and supporters. Can you edit your posts here? I’m really sorry should have been paying attention.
Very good post. Very informative.
I just read that Salon article and that writer is so full of shit I am now twice as angry.
Obviously, this is an Obama supporter with her head up her ass, which is so common among the “reporters” who want to see what they feel like seeing instead of what’s there. I could dispute each and every one of her points, but what’s the point. You sit on a bag of shit and all you do is spread out the shit.
Its “reporters” such as this that make it worse for Barack Obama. So be it. I don’t give a rat’s ass what any of these bullshit “analysts” pull out of their asses. I don’t want to be “heard”. I want Barack Obama to go away on November 5. None of this other fake horseshit matters. I know what he is. End of story.
I’m done with angry. I’m into action today.
Feels sort of good.
going to a McCain HQ opening Friday, will wear my Hillary shirt and dems for mccain bumper sticker on it somehow!!!
I want to make sure they have foot troops on the ground September thru November in mnountian states, I will volunteer for NM since its close, goota make sure the mountain strategy falls flat….
Maybe you should wash your own mouth out with soap.
Your tirades don’t help the cause.
Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States of America if judged by the resumes/credentials of those who have held that office in the last 100 plus years.
The link below provides background on all of the Presidents. If you compare Obama’s resume with any of the past 100 years Presidents he comes up unqualified by any reasonable measure.
whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/chronological.html
The Presidency of the United States of America should not be an Affirmative Action or internship position.
I am not opposed to the idea of the Office of the President being held by a non 100% white male or a female of any ethnicity.
Colin Powell, before he let himself become a tool of Bush/Cheney, coulda, shoulda, woulda been a real nonpartisan, post-racial, transformative Presidential candidate.
There have been plenty of white males who have been less than stellar Presidents. The first female or non white male will make it easier or more difficult for those who follow. I fear that indications are that BO will make it more difficult.
If Obama couldn’t get Rev. Wright or TUCC to quit clinging to the bitterness of Black Liberation Theology in 20 years of association, what chance is there that he can “change” the USA in four years.
Now that the primary is over, this election is not about Hillary or the Democratic Party anymore. It is only about Barack Obama and how comfortable do you feel about his capability to be President of the United State of America.
I disagree.
The number one reason: he was selected not elected. This trumps all other reasons.
Stealing elections, not something I get over with. Just ask W.
“The number one reason: he was selected not elected.”
Yes – I agree.
I agree with you.
I think it is the combination of the select and the Dem Party CRAP CANNON that shot him out. (No, I haven’t forgotten the Republicans)
Money is the controlling interest that drives the process. By any standard of this metric, BO is not the best “money could buy”. Even at 4 to 1 expenditures he could not close the deal. The stake holders that own the pork pipe connected to BO’s ass are looking to the margins for insurance. Not a good sign, considering the .5 trillion dollars that will be expended on this race.
Organic talent and experience are eclipsed by overt indifference and greed. Democratic Socialism masquerading as a form “elite” wealth distribution will not sustain it self with any degree of consistency, forcing all the public interest projects, of national value, to languish amongst the 18 million pieces of hanging chad.
President Clinton speaking last night to the nation’s mayors had some major points to highlight. Addressing the connections of all the moving parts that have to be addressed to achieve any measure boiled it down to saying you can legislate all you want but it won’t matter if people at the state and local level don’t execute…”the doers and problem solvers”.
At this point in time, what I ‘ave to look forward to are three known events that may effect the outcome. Senator Clinton being nominated in Denver, watching BO self-destruct for want of speaking truth to power, and McCain becoming president.
Lord knows, I would have voted for George Carlin before I would vote for BO.
In his honor and with your forgiveness…
Just words?
I will miss his words.
Unity, NH
http://tinyurl.com/3nox2o
Here are my top 10 reasons why I’m not voting for Barrack Obama:
1. His has specious pastors and associates (Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Farakhan, Michelle Obama …).
2. When he’s off the teleprompter and in a debate, he shows no understanding of policy–especially foreign policy and diplomacy.
3. Whenever there is a vote on something difficult, he doesn’t vote or he votes present so he says things but does nothing.
4. His list of achievements can be summed up in one bullet point: getting into office, jobs, and schools on something less than merit and hard work.
5. His demeanor reminds me of Dubya. He is smug, arrogant and when questioned comes off as some one whose entitled to NOT be questioned on anything.
6. He got his house and side yard in a sweet heart deal with his friend Rezko, the felon.
7. He got his two terms in the Il. state legislature by getting his opponents thrown out on technicalities and got the U.S. senate position when his Republican opponent quit when his supposedly sealed divorce records got opened mysteriously.
8. Michigan primary (sic): If he can get pledged delegates by not being on the ballot, then I want some Michigan pledged delegates too. Basically I hate injustice and every thing the RBC and the DNC did to rig the nomination for him falls into that heading.
9. He says he will negotiate with leaders of rogue nations which is just one of the reasons he’s been endorsed by the likes of Kim Jong Il, Khadafi, Hamas, Fidel Castro …
and the number 10 reason I’m not voting for Obama:
HE LIES!!!!
(go ani, go!!!)
You’re so much kinder than I feel. I am not voting for him because he is a sexist, misogynistic, duplicitous, cheating, lying, thuggish pandering sack of shit who never achieved a single thing in his life but to take credit for other people’s work.
I’m with you UW. 100% (though I could add some adjectives….!)
Wow, just wow. I’ve said it before here and I’ll say it again . . . I am a moderate Republican, and I cannot get past what has happened to Senator Clinton. Although I have never agreed with her ideology, I have always respected her. That respect grew during the primary race. My heart aches for her and all of you, her loyal supporters, who were thrown under the bus for a slick talking snake oil salesman. I feel so strongly about this that I joined the PUMA Facebook group. Right now what Senator Clinton is experiencing is what has been happening to my party for quite some time. The media, choosing a side and not allowing for a proper dissection of an issue and/or a candidate. Sadly, the schtick that Saturday Night Live does regarding how easy the media has been on BO is painfully accurate.
Essentially we (Republicans and Democrats) want the same thing for our country, we just believe in different paths to reach that point. Senator Clinton has the ability to work on a bipartisan level, as does Senator McCain. We need more politicians like those two.
Keep fighting your good fight. We cannot allow the media to step upon our right to choose a candidate.
Stacy,
You know the irony of all this is that because of obama, moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats will come together and unite and work together for our common cause to defeat him in November.
I guess you could say that obama was a uniter in that regard!
LOL. That’s pretty funny.
I had those same thoughts. I used to say uniter???? Of who??? But now I realize he has united all PUMAs!
Who would have predicted that anyone could create a coalition that includes moderate and liberal Democrats, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter?
Who would have thought that moderate Democrats, and even many liberals would find themselves agreeing with Sean, Ann, and even … cringe …. O’Reilly?
Obama has done it!
Turns out that Obama really is a uniter. He has united half the Democratic Party against himself and the left wing elite of the Democratic Party.
Correct!
P.U.M.A. ready to ROAR!!!
Please tell me and the other PUMAs, do we need to ask permission from the Republicans if we want to attend Senator John McCain’s local event?
Of course, I will wear my Hillary t-shirt.
thank you. I am wondering if this has been going on for a while and I am only now seeing it? the party has just failed us on SO many levels, CORE VALUES, the charter violated for Gawds sake
McCain is plenty moderate for me, and I trust him and respect him and I believe he loves America, three things Uhhbama cannot lay claim to..
and you go, Dakinikat!
He does have experience tho – experience at being a constant candidate. Hmm..that’d make a great movie,huh? The Constant Candidate.
And, I want some Michigan pledged delegates too! I didn’t register to be on the ballot either!
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
I’m not coming home! Ever, and it’s because of Obama, and the DNC.
I’ve made a choice. Period.
I won’t be hoodwinked, bamboozled, nor fall in line for a loser without experience to be POTUS.
I will remember in November.
NoBama, No Dem Party, not this time.
I guess you HD and the rest must “get over It”.
Hillary/McCain ‘08
not some hopie dope.
They burned down the house and wonder why we’re not coming home?
Nobama, no way
Brillliant, Ani. I stopped reading Salon years ago and am not surprised that they miss the point by miles. They are truly CLUELESS. Thank you for describing the difference between the Anointed One and Hillary so well! PUMA POWER!
Here’s another reason. Barack has essentially reversed himself on almost everything he has postured on during this campaign. Instead of bringing change to politics, he reverts to everything he has learned in Chicago politics. The main argument being made in that article and other places around the Obama blogs is that there is little difference in policy between Hillary and Obama. But I believe that once he sets out to reverse himself on policy, one item after another, then he has wiped out the policy argument and now it is just basically a character issue; of which he has none.
Fred, the same thing happens to me all the time. I have to temper my comments at non-black sites, so I started my own blog where I can say whatever I want.
Sonya, I have seen comments that are way more “out of line” than Freds…
Is the Internet to become segregated? Geez
I have to temper my comments, out of fear I’ll make more typo’s than I normally do, but race should have squat to do with it.
I don’t understand really, are we not human beings first?
Ani,
You have an uncanny ability to articulate exactly what this no-obama movement is all about. Your writing is impeccable.
Let’s hope salon reads your open letter to vp gore as well.
PUMA
Smart abused people don’t go back for more!
No Obama Ever
PUMA
Just Say No Deal
In the words of our last unqualified president:
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
I wonder what George Carlin would think. Too late, sorry.
Wow! I just now read that piece of tripe at Salon.
“They are mad at Bill Clinton. Obviously”
Who writes those scripts?
I mean I know of the Clinton derangement syndrome – but this is the most twisted applications yet.
So, I don’t vote for your election stealing Messiah because…I am angry at Bill Clinton?
I give up.
I know B0b0ts can’t be reasoned with – but this is proof we are not even in the same galaxy.
BTW, I only picked the most absurd part of that drivel of the article – the rest was so offensive, I can’t even go there again.
But her husband has not publicly endorsed the presumptive Democratic nominee to succeed President George W. Bush. Asked by journalists when he might do so, Clinton smiled and shook hands with spectators without acknowledging he heard the question.
I love Big Dawg, millions of us do..
one excuse after another of why we wont buy what they are selling
maybe it helps them sleep at night
of course I dont know how they can live with themselves after the sold us on Iraq, now we are seeing it again but they cant understand why we wont bite this time..
I saw a new bumper sticker today…all it said was “I miss Bill.” Waaaaaaaaaaah! SO DO I!
Smart people don’t ever go back to someone who has abused them…ever.
And one more question: why is Larry Sinclair still in jail…what are the charges?
Thank you for stating it. I am not voting for this goofball because he is a liar, backstabber, fraud, hologram, and a result of clever marketing by Axelrod and his crew. Our nation is currently “in waiting” to be rid of a guy in the executive office with similar characteristics and probably a crew who is just as good as marketing as Axelrod. Why would we vote in another GWB TWIN?
McCain is not much better, but at least we know where he stands. I know how much he dislikes my family (gay), where he is going with the war, global warming, courts, etc. I would rather have my enemy right in front of me than have him behind me, as in Obama.
The ONLY message they will understand is a sound thrashing on Nov 4.
I’ve have been pointing out Obama’s lack of courage for months. He may be slick and clever, but he sure as hell isn’t courageous.
Several weeks ago I said, “Obama’s record of real accomplishment is slim indeed. His voting record is a travesty of incompetence and neglect. How can anyone forgive his 100 plus “present” votes? He didn’t have the courage to vote either “yes” or “no” over 100 times!”
I issued a challenge to an Obama supporter recently . . . find another politician with a “voting” record as pathetic as Obama’s. No one has taken be up on the challenge because I find it hard to believe there is one.
http://www.obama-wire.com
“The great irony is that he is much more white than black, beyond skin color.”
I said this from the very beginning and the response was ’sound-bite’ tactics:
“What’s the matter? Obama’s not black enough?”
We live in a world where any kind of deep discussion has become virtually impossible.
The fact that Obama is more white than black is not my opinion. It is the fact of his upbringing.
I had no part in the circumstances of his birth and subsequent upbringing. I merely analyzed the truth.
Obama was raised by white people. The only AAs he is related to are the little girls he sired.
This does not make him a pariah.
But it does call into question the irresponsible way his campaign played the race card and is still playing it. He has exploited the very tortured past of black American history from slavery to the present day. He has not personally experienced any of this. He was raised on an island paradise where native Hawaiian culture dominated. Physically, he fit right in as a child. I don’t care what he says. There’s no way when he played on the beach as a child that people stopped and pointed: “What’s this n!gger doing in Hawaii?” I’d put money on the fact that this never happened. Certainly not on the island of Hawaii with Obama looking the way he did as a child.
His first brush with racism probably didn’t happen until he went to Occidental College. Yes, California Police are notorious for racial profiling. It was as an adult, that he really understood the full extent of how his skin color played a role in the society. Hence, the comment about not wanting to “ingratiate” himself with white people by revealing his mother was white.
But whatever happened as an adult, does not change that he was raised within the culture of a white family. But it’s clear that he’s always been resentful of this fact. For that, he should blame his African father for abandoning him. After all, he could have sent for him every summer to spend time with him in Kenya and expose Obama to his family heritage and Kenyan culture.
In the meantime, yet again, we, the American citizen, must watch another saga of an American President with a father complex play out.
Haven’t we suffered enough of this shit?
Playing this up to AA voters would be a great way to turn them off Barky. If they were racist, you know.
I was wondering about that myself. His constituents have been kids and AA’s …. if they stay home November 4th without BoBo making inroads with any of the traditional Dems, he is — in a word — FRACKED!
His first brush with racism probably didn’t happen until he went to Occidental College
I would suggest that it occurred while he was in Jakarta. Little tag along Barry was getting called all sorts of fine words and shown it as well… And Barry was obviously different than those around him.
He spent time with “Franky” who had him primed. He talked about racial issues in Hawaii.
Obama is such a lying F*@K.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2YxNTk0NzBiNjgzZmY0MjEwYzg5ODViMjMxN2JlY2Y=
I haven’t seen the ad, but maybe Senator Obama isn’t taking credit of the bill, but is merely saying he supports the passing of the bill?
Nope. You need to see the ad.
Has anyone looked at the polls on real clear.
It looks like Obama is pulling ahead; he gained 3% in the last week.
You know what I getting upset about—Hillary.
Why is Hillary not just telling the Dems to shove it as far as helping out Obama.
No matter what the Democratic party has against or on Hillary why is she letting and helping this guy with his non-experience and history.
Srry but I have a feeling that Hillary knows even more than we do about Obama.
Every week some new junk is uncovered about this guy, yet he just lies and skirts his way around it.
I guess I am doing the opposite of the Hillary die hearts are doing.
You see today I just got an email to help her to delete her debt, while we are to stay with her and support Obama…..
SORRY Hillary NO MORE…
If you are going to support someone who is a lying racist, sexist, Anti-American, and the list goes on—You have finally lost my support..
McCain ‘08
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/specialthankyou/?sc=1905&utm_source=1905&utm_medium=e
I think thats incredibly unfair, JMHO
the rest of us will help Hillary retire her debt..
She is a hero to me and always will be..
BOOYAH Hillary!!!
She is keeping her face and name in the game,
for in October Obama falls with shame.
Actually I got the same e-mail and it was weird. As a big fan of Orwell, I just got this feeling of double speak from her. She said she wanted to retire her debt so she could ensure a democrat would take over the White House. It was really an odd video. Watch it tell me what your gut tells you.
I agree that we must do everything we can to keep BO from ever becoming president.
As far as Hillary supporting BO, I got an email from her today and I was afraid to look at it … Did not want to more endorsement of him.
But this is what it said:
Didn’t go to the video message. Maybe that is the one referred to by “k in the northwest.
No BO ever!
I was slumming over at TalkLeft this morning when (I came across That article. It really irritated my scales!
First things first:
I was amazed at how the writers at TalkLeft had jumped off the dep end lately in their defense of Obambi! When I read the text, and I quote:
.As someone whose vote and support for Barack Obama for President in this election is unshakeable (I know what John McCain is and I want no part of a John McCain Presidency), I am decidedly NOT a fan of the PUMA movement. Indeed, I oppose it. But I was outraged by the behavior of the Media and the blogs towards Hillary Clinton and I will not soon forget what they did. John Cole, whose tin ear on the issues of sexism and misogyny is pretty well established, thinks that the PUMAs will not like this Rebecca Traister article. Since I am not a PUMA, I can not say for sure, but I know I liked these parts of the article:
End quote
Now how much do you think they sold their souls for over at the once great TalkLeft? I was really offended by that article.
check Marsh maybe she can tell us the selling price..
they are so quick to pooh pooh our FREEDOM OF SPEECH for party unity
what utter BS and hypocrisy
TM the name dropper. She is so full of herself it’s a wonder she lets anyone post about anything other than herself.
Sorry about your scales…. Must be hell at the “scale salon”
What I get from your quote is an individual who has really gotten into a mind jam.
” I am for A never B and “feel” sorry for C, but D who wants C and never B, will vote for A. (not all)
Who thinks like this?
Rebecca Traister article is PUMA baiting. More BO astroturfing. The eq of papering ‘them’ to irrelevancy. Typical, but the hits will keep on coming. BO is stupid enough to fight a two front war, good luck with that.
I agree, they are not going to understand the movement until Obama is defeated in November. This article was so clueless it was offensive. I’m not voting for Obama because he is a liar, a fraud, a racist, incapable of governing the largest economy in the world, and frankly kind of a jerk.. I could go on and on and on, the woman that wrote this article must be a joke. If she wanted to understand the PUMA movement, why didn’t she ask the PUMAS.
And somehow people always leave out the Clinton took a higher percentage of males than Obama in many of the demographics.
The media is not going to do it’s job, we must take our work to the streets.
Yeah, she’s another one that really disappointed me! I actually thought she had morals. Silly dragon
Is BO sorta like SPOT? He was left under the staircase to long?
FYI – This story (http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2YxNTk0NzBiNjgzZmY0MjEwYzg5ODViMjMxN2JlY2Y=)was just posted on the National Review Online (yeah – I know – a GOP blog), but still – darn funny:
Key passage below:
So his first GE ad is based on a bald-faced lie? Will the MSM ever call this guy out on his constant inability to TELL THE TRUTH! This is change for the worse. There’s a great article over at SavagePolitics discussing Castro’s brilliant and blatant lies and propaganda directed at the people to gain their support for his revolution.
Oh my friggin God! He didn’t even vote on the bloody thing? He makes me want to bash my head into stationary objects and he hasn’t even nailed down the nominaion yet. Christ, at this rate if he does become the prez, I’ll be spending his first term semi conscious.
Qualifications for the presidency:
–US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
Them’s the qualifications. If they’re met, the American people decide who deserves the job. Your insistence that Barack’s not qualified makes you an anti-American jerk.
I’m not a jerk
just an asshole
want to clear that up
m-k?
Your insistance that we can’t comment that O’boy is not qualified is censorship, and makes you the Poster Boy of UnAmerican Jerks!
The point, JAW, is that there are specific, finite qualifications. After that, the voters decide based on myriad considerations about what they want in a leader. If you idiots were interested in real debate beyond the mutual-masturbatory-Obama-hatred-fetish that is this website, you’d be capable of acknowledging the different priorities of different voters, and try to sway them with the logic of your priorities. Proclaiming ad nauseum that Barack’s not qualified is not only patently false, it’s unconstructive and cowardly. If you weren’t such a chickenshit you wouldn’t be afraid of arguing actual differences without all the smears and lies.
Right On:
Wrong again. Obama is monumentally unqualified. He is nothing more than a manipulator, albeit a good one. Platitudes do not constitute policy and getting elected to the Senate does not constitute qualification for the office of President.
We’ve heard O’boy speak, looked at his wafer thin resume, watched him flip flop more than the pancakes at a church fund raiser… and… the determination is…… he his hightly unqualified…..
Sorry but you be WRONG ON O’boy.
Those qualifications are de minimis, Goob. I believe we need a great deal more than just another empty suit. Oblowme is to the Democrats what George Bush is to the Repugs–a party crippler. I’ll take McCain anyday over a lightweight gasbag like Obambi.
Uh . . . si.
Yeah but BO won’t confirm that he IS a “natural born citizen”…incase you missed it.
Where is BC? Helloooo… Ricola Dude where are your “stinky” papers?
You just keep those dreams of coming video tapes and falsified papers close to your pillow, Teakwood. Then you’ll sleep tight with a hate-filled little smile on your cherubic little face.
Hmmmmmmm……Spoken like a proper little FASCIST, WRIGHT ON !
It feels like every time “The Obama” makes a mistake the media (not journalist) swing in and smack him on the hand a few times and say no, no and then tell us that it’s ok he just made a little boo, boo nothing to worry about. Obama may not keep his word, he will tell a lot of lies, he doesn’t have any experience, integrity, honesty, or sincerety but it’s ok to vote for him because he’s a Democrat.
Oh and did I forget to tell you that he thinks he’s black!
I just read only some of that Salon article.
That fool really thinks it’s only women who won’t vote for Obama.
That FOOL still ended the article saying that we WILL vote for Obama?????
What an IDIOT.
I will NOT vote for Obama and this is NOT just kicking and screaming for the HELL OF IT.
As presumptuous as Obama. These dummies don’t get it!!!
No way I could ever vote for Obama or anyone associated with Obama. Anyone who would work to help Obama in the general election is no better than that thug. Country before party is the only way to go, whatever is in the best interest of America. If Hillary Clinton condones what Obama stands for, (and she must, she endorses him and will campaign for him), I could not with a clear conscience vote for her again either. I am 100% through with the so called democratic party. I hope to hell Bill Clinton NEVER endorses that thuggy bastard from Chicago.
I think she’s just being a good Democrat and supporting her party. But why Senator, why? They turned their back on you.
I wish she’d just run as an Independent. This is strangely similar with what happened with Joe Lieberman.
I really need to change my screen name to “Stacy The Republican”. I really enjoy hanging out here with you all. A group that thinks for themselves.
Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-06-23 15:01:25
I think thats incredibly unfair, JMHO
the rest of us will help Hillary retire her debt..
She is a hero to me and always will be..
BOOYAH Hillary!!!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Retiring her debt is one thing. That I would joyfully help with.
Retiring Hillary’s debt so she cam help in Obama’s Camapaign is another. “By helping us pay off our campaign debt, you’re not just helping Hillary elect a Democratic president and grow our majority in Congress. ”
I have a feeling the Democratic president she is talking about is Obama….
I will NEVER take a chance of even one penny of my money going to help Obama or ther Current DNC.
Since Hillary herself said in the video and at the side that it to enable her to campaign for a Democratic President its —–
So Sorry Hillary NO GO!!!—
I kind of have to agree with you there. No way I want any of the money I donate to her to end up in the DNC’s coffers …..
Caos for emphasis we discuss this all the time
FEC LAW STATES S DONATED FOR PRIMARIES/GE FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE WITHOUT THE PTERMISSION OF THE DONOR
people dont want to
Hilalry cant use the money for anytyhing else
I think she needs money to pay off her vendors (she already stated she does NOT want donations to repay her personal debt to the campaign of funds of 14 million, just to pay the vendors off)some power left, if HE pays her debt she will lose everything and be anotehr casualty never availabole to run again
JMO
She never said let’s elect Barack Obama, she asked us to help her.
Don’t you think that every dollar you donate to help her retire her debt is a dollar Obama doesn’t get?
I think she’s being incredibly clever, claiming that donating to her helps BO.
While you at it Please DO NOT DONATE TO the Dem house and senate campaign committes. Shut ‘em all of it down. To bad Rohm and “two buck Chuck”. You don get a nickel either from me. Suck it up and WIN WITHOUT ME.
I’m so angry at all these jerks force feeding us Obama and speaking for ME–saying that I’ll come around and everything I’m saying now is just talk…??
Like I’m a liar???
I’m so angry at these bogus claims of party unity!! Hillary may campaign for Obama but that won’t change who Obama is!!!
I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER vote for Obama.
GOT IT!!??
GOOD!
I just read the Salon/Traister article. As expected the most vulgar, vile posters came out from under their rocks. There’s another one today from Shapiro…same topic. Only difference is that, so far, the posters responding are pissed off women.
On a positive note, McCain came out with an inspiring idea for re-introducing electric cars…saying that we are the nation of Edison, Ford, and that we are the most innovative in thw world. He said if Brazil can turn their energy dependence around in 3 years, we can too. He would reward inventors for building a better battery for the electric car and he’d give a 5k credit for every hybrid/electric purchase. That alone would cut emissions 30% right away. Go Grampa!!
$300 MILLION PRIZE for a better car battery
go gramps indeed
and senator obama…
(crickets)
AND I like that he is doing this the way they did LONGITUDE excellent book, prize for working device not just a grant to research…
Annie Camel,
Sheeesh!, for one horrible moment I thought you wre saying ‘an inspiring idea for re-introducing electric *chairs*’
Sorry, I misspelt your name.
I have been looking at Solar power for the house. I wish I could swing it. It is a 7 year ROI,…too long.
If could afford to knock down the bill to tier 1 and 2…that would be 400$ savings month. Still, I would do it if the credits were better. They are going down every year.
Imagine if every roof (where it makes sense) of every home in america had solar! As President Clinton said last night speaking to the Mayors meeting, we need to invest in Transmission infastructure before any of it can happen.
I hope some of you saw his speech. It was worth the watch.
Teak, go rent the DVD, “Who Killed the Electric Car?” We already have the technology for car batteries and really cool solar panels. WARNING, this video will piss you the fuck off!
Obama does not want to rock the boat.
He is a weakling. He only wants the power of the Presidency and nothing to help the common people.
McCain 08!
I love and respect Senator Hillary Clinton but she does not own my vote.
I have seen enough of what nobama is made of and it scares me out of my wits. He will NEVER get my vote…and I’ll make sure that EVERYONE” in my circle of influence knows what I know about him as well.
Just say NOBAMA…
And, did he mention that he’s Black? Of course he did. O’boy loves that RACE CARD.
Just Say No to Spike Lee’s Chocolate Cities. Tell Spikey Boy to Cram it up his Chocolate Ass.
Or will sic Clint Eastwood on him.
Yes, the Chocolate Ciites remark will go over real well here in the Deep South…NOT!
Happened to see Joy Behar on Larry King Live this weekend, flicking through channels. Stopped for a moment to hear their blathering. King asked some inane question about wooing the Clinton voters. She said Obama doesn’t have to worry about that. He doesn’t need to. “I know women will vote for Obama. He has to work on the white man vote,” she said emphatically.
I turned the channel real fast, yelling Shut the Fuck Up, of course. But then I wondered, does she want Obama to lose? How on earth does she get through life being so dumb? And who the fuck gave her a platform to speak for all women? Unnerving. I’ve been saying since February to anyone who would listen that Democratic women are NOT coming back to the fold this fall. Forget it.
Oh gawd, thank you for bashing Behar. I can’t stomach The View. Not because I usually disagree with their ideology, it’s the blabbering blathering.
Hear that, guys? It’s time for your whiteness to show.
Will I get in trouble for being white?
Only if you kiss Obama’s black ass.
. Seems as if everyone who has done that has wound up under his bus. I think he shopping around for an 18 wheeler now.
Whew. Fortunately I have so desire to be near his backside.
I hopey can changey the cost of Diesel for his CRAP CANNON mobile.
“and pathetic”…
mind you it is not easy to blow Whoopi away but the look on her face was priceless. Oh NOOOO they screamed!
Whoopi is a goddess.
ROFLOL
It’s too bad her answer couldn’t be something like (only if this were true): “Senator Obama is refining and firming up his positions. He’s running on principals and issues, not gaining the vote of any certain demographic. The issues are what’s important and it’s the issues that will sway voters of any demographic.”
So sad.
Joy tok Randi Rhodes spot briefly loving all things Uhhbama on Air America, I cant stand her such maroons on this shxt really
how self loathing can you be
we have ovaries we are enlightened so we must vote Uhhbama
frak that
Lie. She never said that. Maybe you should invest in Tivo so you can watch it several times and then you can “quote” someone.
Does barry still have Larry Sinclair in jail?
What up with that?
Larry’s a wanted fugitive, that’s what’s up.
.
Are there any PUMA people thinking about reaching out to the disenfranchised Obama supporters? Now that Obama is throwing his previously stated positions under the bus (FISA, NAFTA, campaign finance, etc.) there might be an opportunity here with supporters who previously believed him. Maybe now the Obama supporters are beginning to see what we’ve been warning them about.
I agree, we have already seen a few, so please, be nice and supportive. Besides, we are the reasonable ones. The true liberals who believe in compassion, logic, and foregiveness. Hmmmm. Did I spell that right? Poo. Nothing looks right today…
I have attempted to, if I see a toe hold. Got three of ‘em so far.
Good point.
They are definitely welcomed.
Many of us can relate to the pain of supporting and believing in someone – only to discover later on that they’re nothing that they pretended to be.
Roar, PUMA, ROAR!!!
I’m sorry, I can’t type that without giggling.
sounds like the behavior of an insane person–giggling uncontrollably. Obama is just beginning to throw you fools under the bus, along with the rest of the country.
I love the smell of nervous obots in the afternoon.
the smell of nervous obots.
EWW.
as the Obots implode… that gasoline smell… it smells like…. like victory!
ahhh see there is your misogyny again
you think it is funny that people are empowering themselves but you get a hard on for YES WE CAN huh Tommy boy?
Thanks Ani, great post. I was just over at the BBC News looking at Justin Webb’s column. You wouldn’t believe it but they are all for Obama as is most of the rest of the world. They see it as America is coming of age and electing a black man. Idiots. My vote won’t be for the black man not because of his skin color but because of who he is and what he isn’t and of course all of associations. It was disgusting to me to read the comments and what they say about the Clintons and why we are electing Obama and how we will fall in line. Screw them. Stupid British. Their country is going Muslim. Sorry Brits but no thanks, not here, not ever. We are America. Muslims can have their countries and we’ll have ours. Obama can kiss my ass. Despicable person he is along with his supporters. Vote McCain because he is an American, he is patriotic and he is a moderate. We can only hope that Hillary somehow gets the nomination in August but if not go republican all the way. I am still reeling at how many comments against the Clintons I read. They don’t even understand anything about Obama except that he’s black. Of course no thanks to our news media no ever truly reporting just idolizing.
“Thanks Ani, great post. I was just over at the BBC News looking at Justin Webb’s column. You wouldn’t believe it but they are all for Obama as is most of the rest of the world.”
Actually it’s the MEDIA throughout the world that are supporting Mr. Flim-Flam. Obama’s big business friendly, so it’s no shock that these media dummies are kissing his ass.
Thank you, Ani. That was really well done.
Like many PUMAs I don’t feel homeless. I feel liberated. The sleazy DNC will be waiting for a very long time. Maybe if I splained it to them like this: I go to a restaurant and get a bad meal. Maybe I go back a second time. But if I go back and get food poisoning, nothing is going to bring me back. Same deal. Not going back until it’s under new management.
Note to Traister:
We PUMA’s are home. It’s the Bambians and the coupists who took the party to corrupt Chicago.
The party left us.
Get it straight, you mono-salonic morons. What a joke. Whoever pays these people is a fool.
We did not leave the Party, The Party left us.
Yep packed up and left on the Obus. Straight to the Hotel Happy where the men in white suits feed them Happy Poo 24/7.
It’s about the principles and what is good for our family and country.
How many times do we have to say, Obarky is NOT qualified, PLUS he has terrible baggage.
WE need a great President, 2 wars a housing crisis and a recession. How dare babies and elitists tell the middle class here is an unqualified do nothing with terrorist ties to be Leader of the Free World.
No amount of insults from brats will get me to vote against my family, the majority of Americans, and the world.
We need qualified leadership– Obama please take yourself out of the running UNLESS you dislike this country as much as your wife and 20 year minister.
ANI– you tell ‘em!! Great job.
Listen to this by Tex Ritter……It might be over 20 years old but it says a whole lot on what is happening today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkP8qB6Xd_0
Hannity was just saying Bambs said that America is no longer a Christian nation in recent remarks.
Ruh Roh, Scooby. Mr. “Crack ruined my brain” is at it again, and he’s going to get taken to the woodshed another time.
Foot in mouth disease is no problem for Obama. Dr. MSM and the braindead electorate who believe him have a cure for that.
I have been wondering how much longer it would take for Obama &Co to try and sell that to Americans. Whether America is a christian nation or not is NOT for that Radical Muslim bastard to decide.
Paul this is the “Multi-cultural” puss oozing from his eyes…
I guess he can win without them?
I still can’t believe he didn’t vote 40% of time in Senate and voted “present” 130 times in Illinois.
This is a really great rebuttal to all who don’t understand just HOW unqualified he is.
Man has zero national accomplishments.
The 40% figure is from the 110th Congress. During the 109th, he cast 634 votes, and missed a mere 11 votes.
And while we’re on the subject, do you know what percent of votes John McCain missed during the 110th Congress? 61%. More than any other Senator.
That’s not a good statistic for you to site there little Danny boy. Guess who was number 3 and missed nearly 43 per cent? I have a hint for you. He’s a Freshman Senator. And. He’s from ILLINOIS! Barack H. Obama. Wonder where those other FRESHMAN senators came out don’t you? You know, the ones without excuses, who haven’t written novels? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA He deserves the LOSERS who support him!
We’re on our own, cousin,
All alone, cousin.
Let’s think of a game to play
Now the grown-ups have all gone away.
You won’t be much fun
Being blind, deaf and dumb.
But I’ve no-one to play with today.
Do you know how to play hide-and-seek?
To find me it would take you a week,
But tied to that chair
You won’t go anywhere
There’s a lot I can do with a freak.
How would you feel if I
Turned on the bath,
Ducked your head under
And started to laugh?
What would you do if I shut you outside,
To stand in the rain
And catch cold so you died?
I’m the school bully!
The classroom cheat.
The nastiesy playfriend
You ever could meet.
I’ll stick pins in your fingers
And tread on your feet…
Maybe a cigarette burn on your arm
Would change your expression
To one of alarm.
I’ll drag you round by a lock of your hair
Or give you a push
At the top of the stairs…
I’m the school bully!
The classroom cheat.
The nastiesy playfriend
You ever could meet.
I’ll put glass in your dinner
And spikes in your seat…
just seemed apropo
Not if you can’t spell it — get a dictionary!
Uhhbama thinks he is the pinball wizard
That was a really lame article on Salon.com. The author apparently can’t count, so she has no idea that Clinton actually got the most votes and won the most states. And that the DNC totally trampled the US Constitution that guarantees the right to vote and have it count as the ballot was cast. They ‘interpreted’ the votes of FL and MI as they desired. To hell with counting the ballots as they were cast. The author probably isn’t aware that Obama supporters manipulated caucuses. The primary was a disgrace to freedom and democracy. She probably isn’t aware that Obama is linked to crime like crazy. That he doesn’t have much legislative experience. She probably doesn’t realize that Obama has consistently supported big business at the expense of the people and the environment. She doesn’t realize that he has shown incredibly poor judgement in not supporting legislation to protect children from guns and pornography at schools and women who are the victim of rape. I hope she realizes that the kool-aide is poison.
First: There is no HOME for us to which we will go HOME! PERIOD! Some of us have taken this to heart and intend to keep our integrity intact despite the Democratic Party’s delusional belief that millions of us are going to make dutiful, spiritual pilgrimages back to Party headquarters.
The idea that the DP believes we will throw away all self-esteem by insisting that we will “go home” in the end, testifies to the fact of just how maniacal and egotistical they really are. They believe they know us better than we know ourselves. If that isn’t audacious then I have no idea what truly defines audacity.
The more they continue this delusional insistence, the more alienated we will become. They need to admit that they bet far too early on the wrong horse before investigating pedigree.
An article about why some Hillary voters are rejecting Obama, and not a single one of these voters was interviewed.
I guess this is what passes for journalism these days.
blueasthesky:
This democrat of 32 years wouldn’t vote for Oblowme if he ran against another Bush. Obamabots want us to trade in an ignorant twit with another ignorant twit. No thanks.
You have to wonder about those Obamabots. They want Oblowme to be elected and desire the votes of Hillary supporters to make that happen, but still insist on belittling her (and them) at every opportunity. I don’t think I’ve ever come across a more obtuse group of dingalings.
Obama will join the elite group of rejects such as Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, and John Kerry.
Listen for the pitched whining come November.
No one is belittling Hillary supporters. There are, however, some out there who engage in belittling the paranoid, irrational, conspiracy-minded, hate-filled, lying, hypocritical, undemocratic, un-Democratic, delusional, closed-minded, cowardly, hubris-filled, assholes who inhabit this pathetic website. (Not that I’d ever engage in such belittling…)
yeah, you shoulda heard when BOBO was pushing the story that Hillary wanted him murdered.. LOL if that don’t beat all.
Ah damn, missed it. I’m sure you’ll be happy to post a link to a reputable source.
Of course you missed it. You were too busy masterbateing on your change we can belive in lawn sign.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24857362/
JOAN WALSH, EDITOR IN CHIEF, SALON.COM: You know, Chris, she chose her words poorly. I wish she had referred to Bobby Kennedy still campaigning in June, because that was her point.
I mean, even you, leading into this segment, have suggested that she‘s keeping her campaign alive because Bobby—Bobby Kennedy, you know, was assassinated in June. She did not say that, Chris. She was making the point that campaigns have run into June before.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
WALSH: It was an unfortunate choice of words. But she is being bloodied for this. And I have no doubt that it came originally, somewhat, from the Obama campaign.
I got the e-mail on Friday from Bill Burton, making sure that thousands of reporters saw the remarks and that they construed it in the way he wanted them to.
So, WildChild, what’s your guess? What percentage of the readers here at No Quarter do you think will approve of your smear as fair, accurate, smart, and worthy of honest debate? Judging from what I’ve seen, I’d guess about 99.7% here would give you a big fat “kudos” for painting a comment by someone not affiliated with the Obama campaign — a comment that only pointed generally to an admittedly poor choice of words on Hillary’s part — as Obama “pushing the story that Hillary wanted him murdered.” Absolutely pathetic and hilarious. And par for the course around here at No Quarter.
my guess is that 99.9% of the readers here at NQ would approve of characterizations of “this link to a reputable source” as “fair, accurate, smart, and worthy of honest debate.” I would get the high percentage becuase i would show them this huffy thread…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/23/clinton-kennedy-assassina_n_103319.html
…that has the posts of over 19000 enraged BOBOweenies which demonstrate the success of BOBO pushing the story that Hillary wanting him murdered as somewhere around half of the enraged BOBOweenie posters are commenting on some variation of Hillary is staying in the race because shes expects BOBO to be killed all the way up to Hillary wanted BOBO murdered. Yes sir re BOBO, 99.9 % of us would say BOBO got his message across on that one.
I feel for you. You’re obviously so emotionally invested in this fight that you’ve lost the ability for logical thinking and rational discourse.
First of all, if Hillary was in some way considering the possibility that Barack might be assassinated, that doesn’t mean she wanted it to happen. Still, she can legitimately be criticized both for injecting assassination so directly into the public sphere, and, more importantly, for basing her political calculations on such possibilities.
Most relevant to you, WildChild, is the fact that a bunch of comments on a blog don’t constitute Barack “pushing the story that Hillary wanted him murdered.” Your attempt to bolster your charges by providing circumstantial evidence that some supporters believe this to be true is, I suppose, a valiant hail mary attempt, but it in no way shows that Barack was pushing the idea that — as you said — Hillary wanted him murdered.
But I suppose expecting No Quarter hate-mongers to choose their words carefully is naive on my part.
No doubt. It has been a hypothesis of mine that the average BOBOweenie (as you help to illustrate) is more about the feeling then the thinking in this campaign. For example your pondering over whether Hillary was considering that BOBO might be assassinated, LOL just after I was saying that BOBO was pushing the idea that Hillry wanted him murdered. Yes sir ree BOBO that little BOBO lie sure worked.
Now as far as you dening that BOBO was pushing the idea that Hillary wanting him murdered (mere seconds after you pondered out loud that Hillary might want him murdered) My posts are evidense that BOBO had a hand in pushing the story. The reaction from the BOBOweenies was almost immediate and intense, bordering on if not crossing into frothing up into a tizzy. But the truly despicable nature of what BOBO and you BOBoweenies did lies in the complete hypocrisy of damning Hillary for bringing up the word assassination when you BOBOweenies went on and on for the next 4 to five days and repeated the word assassination at least another hundred thousand times across the blogs and the media and in the process negated the very foundation of your faux outrage.
LMAO that you BOBOweenies live in denial is something we expect from the fringe. That you might be swept into power is enough to make any sane person vote for John McCain
Lots of words here Wildchild. Lots of lies. Right here for all to see, if they care to read what’s in front of them.
For all you lurkers who wonder if these Larry-heads are authentic, you can start by analyzing the words of one WildChild, who had the chutzpah to say I “pondered out loud that Hillary might want [Obama] murdered.”
Not hard to check. Just read up-thread.
yes, the BOBOweenie who demands evidense responds when it is presented by saying Lots of words here Wildchild. Lots of lies. LMAO It’s OK, we don’t expect little BOBOweeenies to be able to support any of the things they say with proof. But we do expect them when they are backed into a corner to start screaming Liar. You have fallen on the sword gallantly today for your Beloved BOBO young BOBOweenie. You may now have a cookie
You just made my point, bot.
And, I forgot to add, “arrogant.” Hate to burst your bubble, Fert, but you don’t represent even a tiny fraction of Hillary supporters.
I’d say Ferd represents the tiniest fraction of Hillary supporters…. one of them.
Don’t talk that way about DKos and Huffpo ya’ hear?
I.e., “What you say is what you are.” Nice retort. But it should tell you something. Opposing parties can each believe the other is guilty of the same crimes, but at least the sites you mention generally demand some level of substantiation and rationality. Posters who rely on nothing but smears, name-calling, innuendo, and hatred get no support. Whereas here at No Quarter, such posters lead the pack. Uppity Woman = Big fish in filthy little pond.
We never tried to pass ourselves off as something different. You BOBOweenies did. Unfortunately for you, by your own admission you’re not. Which pretty much negates the whole purpose of BOBO being in the race to begin with.
So let me get this straight. You spend months trying to get traction with charges that Barack is a weenie — an ineffectual idiot, an empty suit, a dreamy believer in unity, someone who Washington DC would stomp on.
So that didn’t work. Dang.
Now you all are trying to spread the idea that he fights unfairly, that he somehow, single-handedly managed to corrupt the entire Democratic party, which is now eating out of the palm of his evil, Machiavellian hand. That he’s, indeed, the most dangerous thing for this country since Hitler defeated Roosevelt (facts are incidental around here).
Let me know when you make up your mind. Let me know when you’ve clarified the basis for your irrational, ugly hatred.
Actually if you read what I write. BOBO’s supporters are the weenies. BOBO is the jello man for the simple reason that BOBO doesn’t seem to be able to take a firm position on anything And And and if you were checking the vote tally at the end of the primary you would see that BOBO only managed to corrupt about half (yes half is not all BOBO boy) the democratic party. The rest of us (as in the other half) weren’t guzzling the BOBOaid and of course we voted for Hillary. I’m not sure why you think Hitler defeated Roosevelt other than it might be a side effect of an overdose of BOBOaid, something which might also push a man into the fringe world of seeing irrationality and hatred in anything or anyone that doesn’t see things just his way.
Okay, within this comment you present precisely one actual argument against Barack. You reject him on the basis that you don’t think he’s capable of taking firm positions. So, I ask: Do you reject John and Hillary for changing positions? And do you actually believe that they have changed positions less (or on less important issues) than Barack?
Of course you don’t believe this. But you latch onto whatever you can to justify your precious hatred.
well there’s changing positions and then there’s jelloing. John McCain changed his position on off shore drilling from the one he had when gas was about a buck fifty a gallon to the one he has now that gas is over four bucks a gallon. Then there’s BOBO and his typical jelloing. First BOBO says Iran is not a threat and then about four days later he says that Iran is a grave threat. First BOBO says he will use public financing and then a couple months later he jellos and says he wouldn’t because publc financing is broken. LOL Then BOBO jellos some more when he says what he’s doing now is the true public financing. Jelloman: BOBO the magnificent… LOL change you can believe in.
Right,
Is this your first time consulting Roget’s Thesaurus?
“They want Oblowme to be elected and desire the votes of Hillary supporters to make that happen, but still insist on belittling her”
You know the old saying “Monkey see, Monkey Do”.
Obama will join the elite group of rejects such as Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, and John Kerry.
Listen for the pitched whining come November.
Yep.
Obama will join that spineless Democratic hall of shame in November.
I will not be voting for Obama because he is not qualified. He was selected not elected. The Democratic Party has become a fascist party where everyone has to tow the party line, where noone can question the qualifications or associations of their nominee. I think that Obama would be a very dangerous president. I don’t think he has the best interest of the U.S. in mind at all. In fact, if he is elected president, it will be the beginning of the end for America. We all must do whatever we can to make sure that Obama is not elected in November! I am so disgusted with the Democratic Party, that once this election cycle is over, I will register to be an Independent. I will not vote for any democrats in November and I have been a democrat all my life but the party has changed and has abandoned all its core principles and core constituents and I don’t want to be a part of it anymore.
Hey guys what do you make of this Video Feed Back Please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCwYLTd_vE
She’s not a devoted puma. She’s gearing up to support Barack. The only thing that makes her worthy of No Quarter is her “knowing” (but baseless) insinuation that something is going to come out. “Anything can happen.” Brilliant.
so supporting BOBO requires gearing up eh.
THe BOBO gearing up ritual.
BOBO tee shirt… check.
BOBO button… check
Change we can belive in lawn sign…check.
Street cleaner full of the Kool aid to follow you around and keep you gurgling….check
You might try watching the video in question before throwing the smears. But I suppose that’s too much to ask here at No Quarter.
You were the one that said somebody was gearing up for BOBO. That’s what I responded to BOBO boy. If I left any steps out please feel free to enlighten (Bwah Ha HA) us on the missing steps.
Oh. Ha ha. That was a good laugh, WildChild. But do let me know when you’ve watched the video, and then I’m sure you’ll proceed with an even more devastating deconstruction of my use of the phrase “gearing up.”
Why do I need to watch a video to laugh at your characterization of political support for a candidate as gearing up. For most of us it was a decision. LOL no garish apparel was required.
No, you’re perfectly correct. I was wrong. Why on earth would you possibly be interested in any actual evidence, facts, or examples of what an adversary is arguing? Such petty things have no place here at No Quarter. They only get in the way of your precious irrational hatred.
Right On,
Last time I checked, we still honour the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Keeping that tradition in mind, I’d like to exercise my rights to tell you to go fuck yourself and choke on it buddy.
ah yes evidense. not that it bears repating but you seem to have missed it the first time…
You were the one that said somebody was gearing up for BOBO. That’s what I responded to BOBO boy. If I left any steps out please feel free to enlighten (Bwah Ha HA) us on the missing steps.
if you need me to I can present it again.
“We are at such a critical turning point at this time in history” Yeah, she’s right.
A major political party just hosed 18 Million Voters, and is now telling them to “take a time out” and “Get over it”.
that may work on your 5 year old lady, but you are talking to a few million adults here.
We are not voting for Obambi, because he is not qualified, he said so himself, Hillary said it, and every other Dem candidate said it.
We’re voting for McCain, and you should get over it.
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MY “HOME” IS NOW WITH THE REPUBLICANS. LET THE WORLD EXPLODE FOR I TRULY JUST DO NOT GIVE A FUCKING DAMN ANYMORE. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN LICK MY ASS UNTIL IT IS SPOTLESS. FUCK THEM! THEY GOT IN BED WITH BARKY, AND I GOT THE FUCK OUT OF TH PARTY. EAT SHIT AND DIE COME NOVEMBER YOU BASTARDS! NO HUSSEIN, VOTE McCAIN!!!!
Get off the fence, pal!
How do you really feel?
(I just could not resist)
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Not only will I never vote for Obama, but neither will anyone at my manufacturing plant nor most people at my church.
People I talk with understand that Obama represents Marxist liberation theology and there is no way that you can spend 20 years at a racist church and not have those same views.
This nomination was stolen from the most qualified individual and everything must be done to defeat the Chicago mob with the complicit and corrupt DNC.
Obama represents the worst aspects of American culture and can never be allowed to run this country.
Obama and his minions are blame America First,defeat and retreat, anti-Americans who will surrender America’s position in the world.
They will raise taxes at a time of recession and will cause an economic collapse which will further their Marxist ambitions.
And the tool Shapiro needs to understand this fact. I will work tirelessly to defeat an illegitimate candidate that was selected by a corrupt and undemocratic party.
This ex democrat will be voting Straight Republican ticket
Shame on you Demrats!!!
She didn’t actually say that something was going to “Come out”. But it did strike me as curious as to her demeanor when asked about it. What say you?
The Clintons are political pros. If they don’t “have something” I’ll be shocked and disappointed. Her allegiance to the party is disappointing. You all are at the point I was after the mid-term ‘06 elections. I felt my party didn’t do it’s job. And now when they come looking for a handout I reply that I only donate to candidates and causes I believe in.
March to the drumbeat my ass.
I am an independent, so I am not sure that I am welcome here. However, I share MANY of the same concerns about Senator Obama that you’re stating. Sadly, so many legitimate concerns expressed about this little man are now considered racist.
I just am amazed that when he won primaries it was IN SPITE of white racism and when he lost it was BECAUSE of white racism.
I am already so defeated by the simple minded railing on about whitey! They believe they can see into my heart and KNOW that I am racist because I am white.
The hypocracy is astounding. What percentage of racist is Rev. Wright? Where does the typical white person compare to him?
They let me in
This place has become one of my favorite sites.
I am already so defeated by the simple minded railing on about whitey! They believe they can see into my heart and KNOW that I am racist because I am white.
That hit me after Katrina and Kanya West’s “George Bush hates black people” thing. I know no one here is a W fan; but no other president in our history has appointed more AA than him. The statement made by West played out through the black community multiple times and I believe has now left us, I fear, worse off than before. And now BO is playing the same game. Shameful.
The response to the victims of the levy breech in New Orleans was shameful.
It is it’s own distinct shame and not related to Obama.
Bush has to own that one by himself.
I have a ton of family on the Mississippi coast; they were/are ignored.
FTR, I did not mention BO had anything to do with that. It was the idea that race had anything to do with it. There were failings on many different levels.
I am a consultant for Federal Disaster Response. I will not say the agency. I can tell you first hand that there were failures at every level of Gov’t during and following Katrina.
And that Failure started with the local agencies, city and State. No one had a clue as to what should be done, much less how to accomplish it.
The Stafford Act that regulates disaster response requires that the plans be reviewed annually by State and Fed. That review for natural disasters was not happening.
After 9/11 emergency response became geared toward terrorism, and natural disasters were an afterthought.
There is plenty of blame to go around everywhere… the locals did not have a plan, and did not know what to ask for, and assumed the Feds would just “send everything they’ve got”. It doesn’t work that way.
And from what I’ve seen, Obambi does not have the leadership needed to get the organizations united.
I’m an Independent, and they haven’t thrown me away yet. Don’t worry, this site only bans people for making racial/gender/homophobic etc. slurs or making threats against people. If you can look past the crazy trolls, you’ll enjoy it.
Welcome to No Quarter. A haven for democratic refugees, independants and bemused republicans. You know, the middle 65% of the population wondering what the hell is going on?
Every day more, they Camp Obama and its promoters are making me almost ANXIOUS to vote for McCain.
Keep it up folks, before you know you it, you’ll have succeeded in giving McCain one of the largest Grassroots efforts!
Obama camp passing out “homemade” signs to Obama supporters at rally.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30435_Video-_Obama_Campaign_Passing_Out_Fake_Homemade_Signs#rss
yes yes yes yes…………….It is not about losing it is about winning and then the smoke filled backroom deal in DC occured and the choosen one became JESUS to the dummycrat superdelegates that have no backbone, and must be filled with self and stupidity. Election my ASS more like Selection not for my ASS.
http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com
This is my favorite line from the salon article.
Any of you feel that way? If anything, I’m going to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, to vote against him and pull the lever for McCain.
It is a shame he didn’t go into dentistry.
I don’t think the small hothouses that are the internet blogs particularly predict what the voting public will do.
I suspect Obama will get the vast majority of former Hillary voters. Not because, as the article states, that Hillary supporters have nowhere else to go, but because in fact they agree with Obama on the vast majority of issues.
And because the majority of Hillary supporters won’t choose to waste their lives wallowing in irrational hatred, yearning for some fictional tape or birth certificate to come out, praying for something awful to happen to Barack, and finding community in this den of liars and smear merchants.
It appears that BOBO is happening to himself. Who’d a thunk it?
Keep thinking that. When we go into that voting booth, do you really think a white woman who has been kicked around by a racist prick of a man will vote for him when there’s a choice of another guy who showed her respect and kindness? Are you fucking for real? It’s going to be just three people in that booth, no howling Obamabots to try and strong arm her, and you really, truly believe a sane woman will vote for the abusive boyfriend rather than the grumpy but fair dad who welcomed her back with open arms? Wow, when did you stop beating the shit out of your girlfriend?
Seeing as we live in a representative democracy, you are free to vote your biases. It’s just nice to know most voters (and, yes, most Hillary supporters) are more fair-minded and rational than the hate-mongers here at No Quarter. And no, I’m not worried about your vote. If your mind functions like most posters here, your decision is just like any other mindless throw-away vote. It’s incidental.
Ha Ha Ha Ha but for the decade we’d think you a republican.
than the hate-mongers here at No Quarter.
Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. You really shouldn’t refer to yourself in such terms.
Seeing as we live in a representative democracy, you are free to vote your biases.
Thank you, Taylor, but I didn’t need your permission. I’m an Independent, and I usually vote a mixed party ticket.
It’s not jut my vote, it’s all the woman I talk to in my line of work. Hundreds of women. Everyday. They all don’t trust Barky. I’m doing my best to inform them, I set a goal of three undecideds a day. A personal trainer is to a woman, what a bartender is to a man. We talk the straight shit. Barky is dead in the water.
And contrary to the Hip Hop culture, the white women I have known do not enjoy being bitch slapped and called ho’s…. I am certain none of them will be giving Obambi a nod of approval anytime soon.
You’ll be wondering why you can’t have these “throw away votes” when he’s finishing with 7 states won on November 4th I would suspect. You and oblowme should be very careful about insulting votes that aren’t for sale.
No. Most Hillary supporters will remember how wonderful her positions were as he throws taking public finance matching funds, FISA, and NAFTA on the pier that is being burned to sacrifice to his enormous ego. But, that’s just one woman’s opinion.
Taylor Marsh is back to throwing out insults at her past bloggers. In today’s post she writes about Hillay campaigning for Obama and says, “She packs a lot of power with her supporters, especially those who haven’t been suckered by McCain propaganda, or taken over by irrational anti Obama zealotry.”
This is in addition to calling those who supported Hillary as “dead-enders”.
Too bad she can’t look in the mirror and see she is nothing more than an Obama cultist, and a opportunist…not to mention, hypocrite.
I really despise that self-important witch.
You have to give Taylor a little credit. She has been saying all along that she’s was a Hillary supporter but would support the dem nominee. Where she is wrong is in breaking her pledge not to campaign for his jelloishness. She has repeated that she wouldn’t because it was the responsibility of the BOBOcampaign to do that. Of course now in attacking all those who didn’t bow to the BOBO, she is campaigning for him as all the BOBOcampaign seems to be able to do is attack all those who stand against Jelloman, BOBO the magnificent.
The only difference between Taylor and you Larry-heads is that, ultimately, she simply could not allow herself to completely abandon rationality in favor of hate-mongering. Despite her failings she’s proven her desire to be a serious, constructive individual. You guys have only exhibited a desire to entertain each other with sick hate-filled fetishes.
Hi, Taylor. How are you this evening?
Typical. You base this charge on the same kind of paranoid, mindless speculation that you Larry-heads base all your accusations –especially your smears against Barack, his wife, and his supporters. You want it to be true, so you just decide it is. Case closed. Pathetic.
LOL!! Touched a nerve, did I?
LOL he’s been a twitter all night.
Right On is a she. I can tell by the way she writes. Women have distinctive writing voices.
Very astute, Lucinda (if that is indeed your real name).
But maybe I’m queer! You should keep digging for clues, at least when you’re not examining birth certificates and non-existent audio tapes.
Just don’t give up! Keep up this important work. Use your superior intellect in the service of this country!
Don’t worry, it’s Ok that you’re queer.
She just wants a post as press secretary. Ridiculous woman with a bad haircut.
Maybe she’s taking lessons from oblowme. Her former posters have left and the oblowmes have no use for her, so I would imagine she’s probably a little deserted over there ….
Right On- I think you are in the wrong place…I think you took a wrong turn and came to one of the blogs that actually tell the truth about Obama. You need to get back to the walking dead Obamabot blogs, like Taylor Marsh’s.
Don’t worry, I can’t stand this place. Gives me the creeps. I only tune in occasionally — as penance for my sins.
Wouldn’t you get absolution quicker by volunteering in a homeless shelter or working with abused children?
I keep active, yes. And occasionally it’s important to provide a counterbalance for lurkers here who might start to believe the hate-filled bullshit you Larry-heads peddle in this commode of a website.
Well, I think that most lurkers (like most Americans) are smart enough to decide for themselves what they want to believe. We don’t need pundits or radio personalities, who believe they’re God’s gift to humanity to tell us how to think.
Who knows. If someone doesn’t get out much, they may start to believe a nutty chorus of voices who keep yelling the sky is green. Characterize it as my thinking I’m “God’s gift to humanity” if you like. But I’m just not going to stand by and watch you hate-mongers spread your disgusting lies and smears. Not today anyway.
so why do you think you’re God’s gift to humanity? LOL in a thousand words or less please.
Well, you’ve certainly found a fitting community, WildChild — a place where you can twist your adversaries words and thoughts with full abandon! Does it give you a little thrill? Do you take viagra to go all night long here in your little orgy of hatred?
I didn’t twist anything. When people accuse me of something that I’m not I, like most normal people, simply say I’m not the thing they are accusing me of being. LOL You on the other hand when you are accused of something, you highlight the thing you are accused of in parenthesis and let it ride. I’d say that’s about as close to an admission as we’re ever going to get from a BOBOweenie.
Okay. I apologize. I guess you weren’t twisting my words at all. Guess you’re just an idiot. Not your fault. Just keep LOL-ing — that seems to make you very happy. (But if you prefer not to be characterized as either an idiot or a word-twister, I suggest you show where I said I thought I was “God’s gift to humanity.”)
See, another non denial denial. LMAO if you seriously don’t want us to take you at your word that you’re God’s gift to humanity, you should really just fess up that you’re not. Not that we are going to believe you now but hey it’s worth a shot right? LOL Then we can all get back to making fun of you for other reasons.
The only one sounding hateful is you. Keep those grade school insults coming. It let’s us all know the maturity level of the Obots.
Chuckle. All any lurker needs to do is read a single post or thread at this site to see a grotesquely high ratio of name-calling/lies/smears to rational argumentation. At least you’ve got some nerve, JAW.
Spoken like a true follower. Hey you gotta stand for something. Its o.k. even if you can’t have a mind of your own at least you stand for something. Right? Aren’t all the kool-ade drinkers adopting the kool kids name because you think its kool? Not to worry, lucky for all the lost. There is enough of us to pick up the pieces when they crumble. It will happen sooner than November. GOD BLESS AMERICA….
We all know how much Newsweek is in the tank for Obama.
They cooked the polls the other day showing Obama up 15 points when all other polls showed a tie or very close.
So what are they saying now?
Alan Ehrenhalt suggests that Obama has more experience than McCain because he was a state senator
Say What!!!
maybe NQ can post a commentary on this BS
CNN just reported that the “presidential seal” logo has been taken off of Obama’s website. Wonder what happened there.
Another shining example of Barky’s superior judgement…Bwahahahahahahaahahah!
Fox is reporting on that also http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/obama-camp-drops-familiar-presidential-seal
Legions of dead Roman warriors haunted Obambi’s nightmare last night. They demanded he quit using Latin on his new logo considering his hatred of their descendants better known as modern day Italians or garlic-stuffed noses. They also threatened him with their famous tomato-garlic armpit saluto. He took a whiff and called Axelrod this morning commanding him to scrubb the seal.
the chewing gum must have dried out and released.
I think some posters are being a bit unfair to HRC. She is a realist who can take a long term view. Let’s suppose she plays it as they want and shuns Obama. Then, when she is the nominee in 2012 the mantra of the erstwhile Obamites will be as follows:
‘She stabbed Barack in the back in’08 so we’re not voting for her. Waaaaaaaah!’.
So let me get this straight. You’re a fan of politicians who sometimes make politically expedient decisions?
You can’t call it expediency. Hillary has said all along she would support the dem nominee.
She has to say that. Meanwhile, on parallel tracks, hopefully there are some issues that will derail his campaign. So it behooves her to be dignified, and wear her DEM game face.
Well, I just composed a double-barreled response to Rebecca Traister’s piece. Unfortunately, Blogger is non-functional at the moment.
So let me get this straight. You’re a fan of politicians who sometimes make politically expedient decisions?
And this coming from an Obamite. OHMIGOD!
It’s rather remarkable isn’t it?
The funny thing is that I still get email from the Clinton campaign. It asks me to contribute to Hillary’s Presidential Campaign.
I was sent a Hillary video, and although she says she will be campaigning with Obama, she does not ask me to vote for him.
LOL….oh I can’t stop lol!! Can you imagine this fool having the audacity of making his campaign, spend money on a SEAL for him? Where is this mans’ mind?
This is craziness!! this man is an egomaniac!!Oh people, the more I hear about this man, the more I wonder, how did he get here? Whose bright idea was this to bring him to the forefront of the DP.?
Maybe someone out there can help me.
1. I wear my Hillary button on my riding vest.
2. Everytime I wear my vest I get the cold shoulder treatment from black americans.
3. Am I the racist because I choose to wear my vest and support Hillary? I know she has suspended her campaign, I won’t take it off.
4. Are the people that treat me this way racist?
Tonight we got on the bike and went to a restaurant. We have always been treated with respect there. Our waitress who was black american seemed very offended at the button. I wasn’t sure. I just wanted to say you know you don’t have to be afraid of me or think I don’t like you just because my choice may be different than yours. I didn’t. This is not the first time this has happened. I also proudly have stickers on the back of my vehicle and have received similiar responses to that.
I am getting mad as hell at the ignorance and the arrogance of people. When I woke up this morning this was still America. I think many have forgotten what that really means or they never knew to begin with. That we are free to say and think and vote anyway we so choose. God help us if this maniac gets in.
We can blog back and forth forever and I guess its good so we don’t go crawling back home as they say will happen. That will never happen as many have said we are still pissed about the Bush election’s. Once again a true display of there sexism, the majority of us being women. What about the men are they going to go crawling back as well. No I don’t think so. Thats a true display of there underestimating the secure and confident men of democratic party. Boy those dumb a–es have sure lost a whole lot……… What were they thinking?
I guess I am ranting I am just so aggravated lately. I can’t even stand to turn the news on for disgust of hearing his voice.
sign out. GOD BLESS AMERICA…………
From everything I have read, no President has had as thin a resume as Senator Obama. It still befuddles me why the party leaders chose such an unqualified candidate. Is it all about the rhetoric of hope and change, whatever that is. Is it because he is black. Even Elizabeth Edwards stated, “We can’t make John black” refering to her husband, in spite of being more experienced didn’t have a chance against a black man because it appeared people were voting for him just because he was black. How can it be that someone who has had long-term relationships with a felon, racist religious leaders and Pentagon bombers is given a pass by the main stream news media, while the person running against him is portrayed so negatively. Where can we get the true answers to these questions? Certaintly, not the main stream news media. They were cheerleaders for the war in Iraq and now they are cheerleaders for Barack Obama. Why???
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“Wouldn’t the politically expedient thing have been to vote along with everyone else?”
Wouldn’t the politically expedient thing have been to tell the Muslim family he can’t be photographed with Muslims?
Wouldn’t the politically expedient thing have been to duck the Kyl-Lieberman vote so he could play it both ways with MoveOn and AIPAC?
Wouldn’t the politically expedient thing be to take MoveOn’s money and then throw them under the bus on FISA?
derridog, NARAL also endorsed Joe Lieberman, who is disastrous on choice, over the staunchly pro-choice Ned Lamont. I remember the netroots were in an uproar over this. Nancy Keenan, the current head of NARAL, has made other wacky decisions in the past. She claims that her Catholicism doesn’t affect her views but I think it clearly does. Why she is the head of NARAL I will never know.
The decision to endorse BO this time also infuriated NARAL’s local and state chapters, who strongly disavowed the endorsement.
In short, a NARAL endorsement isn’t worth spit as a pro-choice bona fide.
There is also BO’s insulting and outrageous statement that a woman should make her decision about abortion in consultation with her “family” (blecch!) and her CLERGY!! (BIG FAT DOUBLE BLECCH!)
FWIW I automatically discount anyone who claims to be pro-choice but still wants to deliver moral lectures about abortion. F— off already. Hillary used to piss me off when she did it too, but in recent years she backed away from that, and good for her.
AND ANOTHER THING!
Mary Curtis, guest columnist in WaPo, says she’s getting “peeved” at women voters who won’t support Barack Obama. Curtis is black. She’s peeved because “feminists” who supported Clinton are now responding to Barack Obama with a deafening “silence.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/20/AR2008062002209.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Everyone’s getting a little “peeved” in this country these days, aren’t we? Now, who could have created all of this peevishness among voters?!
Yep. You got it: THE UNITY CANDIDATE. THE POST-PARTISAN CANDIDATE. THE POST-RACIAL CANDIDATE. BARACK OBAMA.
He’s divided voters, divided the Democratic Party, along religious lines, along gender lines, along racial lines–divided everyone. What a guy.
Still not voting for Obama, Mary. He’s not qualified, by either character or experience to lead this country.
It really hurts to see Sen. Clinton supporting this nominee he is so unfit to be President.
The Precious is without integrity or even the most basic of principals.
If this pandering, corrupt politician manages to “fool” the people into electing him, I truly fear that any real advances on progressive issues and reform are going to get thrown under the bus in Mr Obama’s pursuit of the next election cycle.
WHY, after example after example that this man is devoid of integrity or a backbone on any issue do people still follow him?
Hope is that Democratic leadership will wake up before the convention but it appears to be unlikely because the people connecting the very apparent dots about this candidate are not being heard on a broad scale. No instead, we have the MSM telling people WHY we are resisting and STILL telling them wrong.
It’s not about supporting Hillary anymore, it’s about opposing a man without moral fiber who presents a clear and present danger to our country.