Barack Obama: A Bold-Faced Liar?
By SusanUnPC on June 23, 2008 at 12:20 PM in Austan Goolsbee, Barack Obama, David Axelrod, Iraq, Joseph Wilson, NAFTA, Qualifications
See also, the true story about that 2002 Iraq speech, so little noted that it wasn’t videotaped or even covered in Chicago media, forcing the Obama campaign to “recreate” the speech, as reported by NPR: “The Staged Iraq War Speech & More “Creative” Embellishments.”
This means, of course, that we have to take creative marketing guru David Axelrod’s word for it that he really spoke those words in 2002. By the way, after that unreported speech — unremarkable because he uttered those words safely ensconced in a very liberal neighborhood of Chicago — Obama never lifted a finger or spoke out again on Iraq. That is, until it became politically useful for him to make a major production out of that single unreported, unrecorded speech.
Sadly, his followers haven’t reviewed the true history of that one speech, haven’t questioned the authenticity of its reproduction in a recording studio, and haven’t factored in that Obama didn’t make any further effort to aid the anti-Iraq-war movement, even when he joined the U.S. Senate — where his voting record is identical to Hillary Clinton’s, except that he voted FOR the ill-suited Gen. George Casey, while Hillary Clinton did not. BELOW — and it’s a must-read — I have quoted Joseph Wilson’s writings about his memories of those opposed to the Iraq War and Obama’s notable absence from any participation in lobbying against the war before and since joining the U.S. Senate.
View more of TravisTCleveland’s videos. Like this one:
Now, the must-read section from Joseph Wilson’s op-ed, republished here at No Quarter:
A number of us, like then Illinois state senator Obama, opposed the second Gulf War. My own opposition from the beginning has been well documented. I fought the fight in the arena itself, Washington DC, against a ruthless administration and its supporters while the senator’s opposition came from a far distance and carried no risk, given that he represented in Springfield, Illinois the district encompassing the University of Chicago. As an obscure but safe provincial political figure, he never was granted access to the distorted intelligence that was used to drive the Congress and the media. When I looked to the left or to the right for support, I never saw the state senator. In fact, I never heard of Barack Obama until he announced his intention to run for the Senate in the 2006 election.
After he came to Washington, Obama’s views were thoroughly conventional and even timid. In 2004, he said about the 2002 congressional Authorization for the Use of Military Force: “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know.” On Iraq-related votes in the Senate, Obama’s record identically matches Senator Clinton’s–with the exception that Senator Clinton voted against the confirmation of General George Casey as Army chief of staff. Obama’s vote was typically passive.
In the run up to the war and thereafter, I was in frequent discussions with senior Democrats in Washington, including Senator Clinton, and I was keenly aware of her demand for the full exercise of international diplomacy and allowing the weapons inspectors to complete their mission. Many of the most prominent early opponents of the war, including former General Wes Clark and former ambassador to the United National Richard Holbrooke support Senator Clinton for President, as do I. We do so because we know that she has the experience and the judgment that comes from having been in the arena for her entire adult life–and from close personal participation with her in the conduct of U.S. foreign policy. And we have trust in her to end the war in Iraq in the most responsible way, consistent with our national security interests. …
Read all of Ambassador Wilson’s “The Real Hillary I Know — and the Unreal Obama.”
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Thanks Susan. Another informative article. The more I learn about the ‘inexperience of Obama’ the more I miss Hillary, knowing how right she was for America at this point in time.
From the NRO today:
Barack Obama released his first general election ad on Friday, which seems aimed above all to answer some early concerns about his biography and experience. It’s a well made ad, but it also offers an example of the kind of brazen padding of the resume that Obama will inevitably need to engage in, and which will carry serious risks for him.
About 46 seconds into the ad, we are told that Obama “passed laws” that “extended healthcare for wounded troops who’d been neglected,” and in the usual manner of these political commercials we are given a little citation at the bottom. The citation reads “Public Law 110-181 1/28/08”. That law is the only federal legislation cited in the ad — the other two items mentioned were from the Illinois legislature and referred to other issues raised in the ad.
Public Law 110-181 was the 2008 defense authorization bill. It passed the Senate by 91 to 3 in January, with six Senators not voting. Among those six absentees was Barack Obama. So he cites a bill he didn’t even vote for. Did he contribute to it in some way that might be reasonably referred to as extending healthcare for wounded troops who’d been neglected? It certainly doesn’t seem that way, as even Obama supporters at the Daily Kos discovered when they tried to answer some of the bloggers who pointed to Obama’s citation of the bill. They found that Obama had tried to insert an amendment that had to do with screenings for service members returning from deployments, and one that would ease the discharge of service members found to have personality disorders, but neither amendment passed. Another part of the bill, calling for inspector general reports about hospital facilities, had come from a different bill Obama had sponsored.
Even under the most generous reading imaginable could any of that count as passing legislation that extended health care for wounded troops? The Chicago Tribune noted the problem on its blog last week but defended Obama by pointing out that John McCain didn’t vote for the bill either. That would be an interesting piece of information if John McCain had cited this bill as among his chief legislative accomplishments.
The Obama team’s desire to pad the resume is understandable — it’s awfully slim after all. But this kind of dishonesty will catch up with them…or at least it should.
Spike Lee now predicts “Chocolate City” under Obama presidency.
http://www.obama-wire.com/
Spike Lee makes me sick. He’s unabashedly racist. What if ANY white person ever said, “We need a WHITE CITY?” There would be riots in the streets, but it’s just fine for Lee, Wright, Farrakhan and their ilk to spew their racist shit without being called on it?
Too bad for Lee that he’s going to have to cancel that hotel reservation because Obamarrhoid isn’t going to be the President.
Spike Lee is a total loudmouth idiot, trying to gain lost fame on the coattails of Obama. He’s become a cartoon from one of his films.
Sorry Spike, Ray Nagin already proclaimed New Orleans Chocolate City in 2006.
He later honored women in welcoming the Vagina Monologues this way:
“How am I gonna stand up and say, ‘I’m a vagina-friendly Mayor’ to these cameras after ‘Chocolate City’ and some of the other stuff that I’ve done, but you know what? I’m in…. So, I stand before you, a vagina-friendly Mayor. I am in.” Mayor Ray Nagin, March 7, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/6dz53v
Tell me again who and which race is playing the RACE CARD in this election?
Just Say NOBAMA and
Just Say No to Spike Lee’s Chocolate Town
GIVE Obama a break! Of course he lied….but you must understand that EMPTYSUIT needed some down time with his lovers….he can’t remember everything. You are all so unfair!
Past the blow…
heh heh. pass the pipe. (I don’t think it’s in Obama’s nature to share, though). I think that’s why his associates know to bring their own.
Hey, hey, Sinclair, no..man… go slower.
Obama and Gaddafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2737QUBxFY
As we can clearly hear above, Muammar al-Gaddafi discusses the ‘importance’ of a Barack Hussein Obama Presidency to the Islamic ‘Ummah’, in contrast to what he terms “the Dictatorship and Imperialism of the United States”.
As we have already discussed on this BlogZine (read “The Little Left Book“), the ‘New Left’ ideology, which seems to be motivating, financing and energizing the Obama campaign, is a white washed brand of Maoist socialism, and ironically enough, it is very similar to the concept of “change” and “hope” which cemented Gaddafi’s rise to fame. The question then arises; is Gaddafi speaking about Obama on a random whim, or does he have a concrete connection to Barack Obama?
By the time Wright and Farrakhan visited, Libyan oil imports had been banned, and America was trying to topple what it called a “rogue regime.” In the several years after that, Farrakhan was pro-active for Qadhfi, even as Libya was internationally isolated for suspected involvement in numerous terror plots, including the explosion of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.
Farrakhan’s and Wright’s 1984 visit and subsequent support was done precisely to openly ally themselves with a declared enemy of the United States. Why? Because these two American men of the clergy — Farrakhan and Wright — are avowed enemies of the United States.
Of course, Black Liberation Theology and it’s connection to Maoism/Leninism/Marxism is a well established fact.
Should the fact that Gaddafi knowledge of Obama’s religious and ethnic background seems a bit more advanced than most Americans really surprise us? Are we to assume that Rev. Wright and Gaddafi have not discussed the candidacy of Barack Hussein Obama throughout this process? Has Louis Farrakhan never discussed the immense possibilities that an Obama Presidency could bring for their respective ideologies? Or is Gaddafi simply responding to those “evil internet rumors” to which Obama makes reference on a daily basis?
The New York Times reported August 27, 1996 (h/t GS), that Farrakhan had applied to the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control for “permission” to accept a $1 billion “donation” pledged by Qaddafi during Farrakhan’s January 1996 trip to Libya, which had been under U.S. sanctions for years due to its “links to terrorism” that “bar most business transactions between the two countries and limit travel.”
To some people, all of these unwholesome links among Obama’s many strange friends may somehow seem ‘irrelevant’ or ‘inconsequential’, but to those of us who actually THINK, the dots are already connected, and what they outline is not a pretty picture.
©2008 J. Cifre, J.D., of SAVAGEPOLITICS.com. All Rights Reserved.
1996: the year Obama joined the Illinois State Senate (with some help from his radical left friends). He had two Farrakhan NOI aides on his staff. His State Senate records are missing - this guy’s a State Senator and he wants us to believe he kept NO records?? To me, this is just like the birth certificate, medical records, school records, etc. - he’s hiding his records because he has something to hide. Period.
Well he voted present 130 times if that helps. But he did co-sponsor a Bill he must have thought to be of importance because he voted yes for it. But hey, He co-sponsored it. It is the “Halal Food Act” which provides for the inspection that will ensure that all food labeled “Halal” is prepared according to Islamic Law. That is to say that all animals killed and slaughtered for food will be prayed over and prepared by a Muslim.
http://tinyurl.com/preview.php?num=6r5ney
As a what if, and only as a joke, wouldn’t it be funny is Obama really did turn out to be Marxist/Soviet related, after all those stupid, Russian- paranoid, republicans did to manipulate the democratic primary?
Not bright…
Would be even funnier if Obama were a general in the US army…
Oh, like “No Way Out” with Kevin Costner, but done by Mel Brooks, and John Cleese, this time, a real soviet Manchurian American general takes over the whole republican right wing US military, those most irrationally paranoid, and pandemonium, and fun, result…
Gonna write that screenplay, might be fun to explore…
“And they call me “mr crow…”
Well, he might not have any records simply because he has never done a fucking thing in his life. He is probably the worst legislator of all time. All hat and no cattle so to speak.
Kim Jong Il endoresed oblowme today. Michelle Malkin is having a FABULOUS time with this news!
Yep. It’s gonna suck when he’s President. He’s nearly as compromised and devious as Hillary and McCain, and does not represent a genuine alternative to either. I voted for Nixon because I knew he was a capable, experienced crook — unlike his opponents — and I’m almost hoping Hillary can resurrect her campaign, for the same reason. I prefer in-your-face evil with a pedigree and a history of effective gutter politics.
Really? Please provide a link to prove that McCain is hiding any of his records. We saw all of his medical records, but the 46-year-old Obama will not share his medical records, school records, State Senate records, or original birth certificate with the public. Unbelievable.
Righty. We got 5 paragraphs stating that hopey changey was okie dokie …. I want the entire record. All of the stuff. Have they paid their real estate taxes yet? Can’t manage the White House if you can’t run You Own House, right Michelle?
I really want those medical records… I really want them bad.
What idiot said to Obama, “Uh, okay.. this all you got? Just this letter from your doctor?
Uh okay. Hey Roy, Obama is excused from PE today, he’s got a note from his doctor.”
STDs ?
Lungs clogged with tar and nicotine?
Drug habit? multiple HIV tests?
hermaphrodite? BB balls?
HIPAA won’t allow ANYONE access to his medical records without his permission. Well, maybe the Federal Government could get them, but not just some Tom, Dick or Harry off the street. Maybe some very talented hacker could get them. If the DC elites know things that would cause him to lose the election, they sure as hell won’t release it. Maybe the GOP can get copies. They seem to have ways to get any info they need or want. I suspect time will tell…after August we will know all we need to know.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_hopper_video.htm
Here’s something to chew on.
Ooooh…big bad EVIL Hillary. She’s sooo scaaarey!!
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-loses-his-teflon-sheen/
This article voices my dissatisfaction with Senator Obama lately. The recent flurry of reversals made me wonder if I actually knew who he is.
But I guess my question for folks here is that: Is the media really in the tank for Obama? I have always thought the media would do its best to be fair. And if they were going to be biased, it’d be in favor of corporate interests. I guess some times it takes a different set of eyes to see clearly.
Freedom: we have been yelling about this for months. The media refused to vet Obama, and he skated by. Now that he has to make take concrete positions, you are going to see what we have been saying all along. He made himself as ambivalent as possible so people could project their own fantsies on to him. Now that he has to define himself more, because he HAS to actually make decisions, someone is going to be disappointed, because he can no longer be all things to all people. Guess what? He is not God. He is a self-serving politician with a very shady background, little record of conviction regarding his lofty stated principles, and a weak character. It’s only beginning. That’s what Hillary meant when she kept insisting that he was not vetted or tested.
IMO, the MSM is just waiting until Obamarrhoid is nominated and then they’ll start their take down. The MSM loves “The Maverick” McCain. Obamarrhoid is just being played with right now.
The MSM IS Corporate owned. They do NOT want a Democrat in office.
However, since the DNC and the DC elites have shown themselves to be corrupt and just as capable as republicans of stealing elections, they may have made a deal with the Corporations….you pat my back, we’ll pat yours with some fantastic legislation that favors Corporations. FISA? That could just be the beginning of what’s to come. Who knows what deals have been made?
Our Government is nothing but a dog and pony show. WE THE PEOPLE have no idea what they are doing behind the scenes. All we’re good for is MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
So the media is against Obama then?
No. Obama is against anything Obama was previously quoted to be “for.” That is enough.
WILL BE AGAINST HIM AFTER THE CONVENTION SHOULD HE BE ALLOWED TO STEAL THE NOMINATION! Unless the DNC, DC elites and the CORPORATE OWNED MSM have struck a deal (which is VERY possible). Did you read my post? It’s just MY theory/opinion anyway.
This is the way the media bias works, at least in terms of when something involves Republicans..
The one who damages or weakens Republicans is the one who is favored.
That is the reason why McCain has been such a favorite of the national media.
You’ll note that once the Republican primary was settled, that the NYT started up its attack on him.. and the attacks have been very mediocre and desperate.
As far as the media picking Obama instead of Clinton , I attribute that to the idealistic Leftists who make up the reporters , producers, editors etc. You know , all those 60’s types who wanted to “make a difference” with their job.
I can’t think of any other profession that exhibits such lemming-like groupthink as the media biz.
So when Obama comes around and sounds like “I want to buy the world a Coke” commercial, folks Chris Matthews are ejaculating in their pants.
So they all flock to him. Now you guys are experiencing what Republicans go through all the time. A hostile press that doesn’t and won’t look at things objectively.
When the Clinton’s first appeared on the national stage, many people had questions about their character. But once the news media decided that Clinton was going to get the nomination, the media fell in line.
I bring that up so you can appreciate the way Republicans have felt when they see the media ignore concerns that people have because the media has a stake in the elections.
lol*……..you’re a decent Republican, Vince. “I want to buy the world a coke” is very apropos.
Yes, I definitely see it more than I did in my youth. But then I was fighting to make a difference in my job.
Oh lordy, I must have given my CEO a headache or two.
OK, but how do you explain away 2 terms of GW Bush? The MSM was in the tank for him…..”who would YOU rather have a beer with?” “Mr. Heartland America.” “He’s a good old boy from Texas. People just love him. He’s them.”
The MSM LOVED GW Bush. He’s a Republican…last time I checked.
Beg your pardon, but I disagree with this post.
The “MSM” doesn’t CARE who is in power…as long as the person acting as the figurehead, is sympathetic and/or puppeted by the monied interests behind the MSM. You know, like GE and NBC?
obama is being protected by the MSM…there is not going to be any turn about by the MSM after barackula is nominated.
People said the same thing would happen once hillary dropped out.
obama is a marionnette for elite hidden figures, and corrupt political daddies.
jus like bush.
FF:
You are talking to the wrong people here. He received more flattering news coverage of any candidate EVER … There are so many theories. Some say its the HUGE MEDIA buys. Some say its because the real “powers” in this country want McCain and BO is the far easier candidate for him to best. We all have theories. I believe that while GWB and Unca Dick were crafting their story for war, the Dems had their own little thievery going on. The money in the freezer was a warning. You impeach and we will investigate corruption. From that point on, they had to find a candidate who would “go along.” And they now have him.
Maybe you are more informed now. Or maybe common sense prevails. Or maybe you are tired of being bamboozeled. Or maybe you are trying to hoodwink a few folks here at NQ.
Is the media really in the tank for Obama?
Yes.
Democrats vote with their heart. Everytime they run a “poor Obama” piece, they are pulling that string.
Yesterday there was an interesting editorial in the NY TIMES regarding sexism and their coverage of Hillary. They blasted Dowd to the point she’s defending herself publicly.
However, the NY TIMES did a very prosaic, stilted analysis on their own coverage. They googled how often they used the word “cackled,” for example.
What stuff and nonsense, which is why the media is lousy at policing itself.
That is so not relevant. I couldn’t care less if the press poked fun at her laugh. That’s not what we’ve been talking about.
So I say, “You’re still not listening!”
I think there’s a lot of phoniness going on here. I cannot believe that in this day and age that men in positions of power and influence don’t know precisely what we are talking about and have no need for a 70’s revival of what sexism is and how it works.
Of course they know. And they know damn well how it was used in the primary to defeat her.
The hidden conversation here between women and men in the Democratic party is simple:
“We used it because it works and we didn’t want Hillary.”
replied by:
“You cannot use sexism to defeat someone and expect anyone to respect you.”
Very simple.
Freedom, I’m so happy that you’re taking a closer look. That’s all I’m asking from any Obama supporter. I asked the same thing of Bushbots years ago. As far as Hillary goes, I watched her get hammered by the GOP for years, and if they could have had anything stick to her they would have, that’s how I know she’s one tough politician, but a fairly honest one. She has to be . As a woman, she has to keep her nose EXTRA clean, just like any woman in a man’s world. The powers that be will take any excuse to can a powerful woman’s ass.
I read today Obama’s economic advisors have said they may lower coporate taxes a little.
Specifically, State Senator Obama maintains that an October 2002 anti-war speech was removed from his campaign web site because “the speech was dated once the formal phase of the war was over, and my staff’s desire to continually provide fresh news clips.” The speech was returned to the site following Associate Editor Bruce A. Dixon’s June 5 commentary, “In Search of the Real Barack Obama: Can a Black Senate candidate resist the DLC?” in which Mr. Dixon remarked, “Somebody else’s brand of politics appears to have intruded on Obama’s campaign.”
Apparently, Barry put “the speech” up on his website and then took some heat for it so took it down. When The Black Commentator accused him of selling out, the above captured excuse was what he delivered up.
Illinois State Senator Barack Obama rejects any “suggestion” that “inclusion of my name” on a Democratic Leadership Council/New Democrats membership list amounts to “an endorsement on my part of the DLC platform.”
In a June 13 letter to The Black Commentator, the Black candidate for U.S. Senate defended his civil liberties, anti-war, and social welfare legislative record, and requested “that folks take the time to find out what my views are before they start questioning my passion for justice or the integrity of my campaign effort.”
http://www.blackcommentator.com/47/47_cover.html
So the bottomline is he gave a speech he wasn’t even PROUD ENOUGH OF TO DEFEND! How the hell is he gonna defend this nation?
Why is there a “?” in the title of this post? Obama lies more than bush … and that takes some doing.
Will Smith On Obama: ‘First Time’ in 10 Years it’s Good to Be An American
On to promote his new movie “Hancock,” Will Smith was pushed by “Today” co-host Matt Lauer to express his support for Barack Obama and the actor/rapper, channeled his inner Michelle Obama, as he declared it’s the “first time” in five to 10 years it’s been good to be an American overseas:
WILL SMITH: You know I just, I just came back from Moscow, Berlin, London and Paris and it’s the first, I’ve been there quite a few times in the past five to 10 years. And it just hasn’t been a good thing to be American. And this is the first time, since Barack has gotten the nomination, that it, it was a good thing
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2008/06/23/will-smith-obama-first-time-10-years-it-s-good-be-american
YOU DECIDE –RACIST OR PLAIN STUPID !!!!!!!!!
Will Smith is a moron. Always has been, always will be. FYI, his comment, is stupid and racist.
Survey says: Less than 2% of voters let celebrity endorsements effect the way they vote. Yawn.
I see that Walter Shapiro over at Salon Magazine thinks that all Hillary supporters will be voting for Obama even if they don’t realize it now.
Any comments on his wishful thinking?
I am going to make a new bumper sticker and recommend it to Larry’s new advertiser:
My Standard Poodle is Smarter than Walter Shapiro … she’s probably more observant than he is too!
Insulting article and so deep into bad analytical thinking that he hasn’t a clue…..
It made me want to contribute to McCain.
Shapiro takes stupidity and wishful thinking to the level of being art forms.
St. Barack Was a Mirage
The senator is losing what made him seem special and inspiring.
Politics is a funny and challenging profession; often one can’t tell that one is approaching a tipping point until it has been reached.
I wonder if Barack Obama is approaching his.
Obama announced on Thursday that he will opt out of public financing for his presidential run. Offering a breathtakingly jaded and calculating explanation (the Republicans made him do it), Obama betrayed what we were told was the closest thing the candidate had to a high and inviolate principle: political and campaign finance reform. When that principle collided with his political self-interest, Obama invoked the same method that he used, for instance, with Jeremiah “I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother” Wright: He disposed of that which is not politically expedient.
http://www.article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWNmYzdjZDI3YTYxMTJmNDQ5ZTc0MTI0NDg4ZWExYmI=
Just heard on an am talk station the Kenyans are saying The US will have a Loa (?) president before they do.
‘Luo’ president. And as a neighbour of Kenya’s I sincerely hope neither presidencies happen. Not being tribalistic (cannot have racism among Africans) but the Luos have caused us the biggest headache in these parts of the world.
http://www.jenningsrampage.com/2008/06/this-is-why-we-dont-mindlessly-search-and-replace.html
They have a page of obama,s website where they say ““OBAMA BIN LADEN ““in thier own words/page –
Yeah. I want these people carting around the red phone …. ::snark::
Holy crap!
Obama opposes lobbyists? That’s just … cornpone!
http://www.hotair.com/archives/2008/06/23/obama-opposes-lobbyists-thats-just-cornpone/
Clever line from other at that site:
Mr. Daschle now serves on the boards of three ethanol companies
So he’s one of the jerks who want to take food and burn it.
lol
daschle=jerk
Spike Lee on Obama: There’s “gonna be a real Chocolate City!”
http://www.michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/spike-lee-on-obama-theres-gonna-be-a-real-chocolate-city/
I NEVER realized that the speech was unrecorded. No contemporaneous newspaper accounts?
No. None. Zilch. That is how unimportant it was at the time. Nada. Zip. Big Goose Egg.
Since the speech was unrecorded, what evidence is there that it ever happened? Take his word for it? If you believe that can I interest you in a bridge?
Excellent question about whether the speech actually happened or not. Wasn’t the speech the whole basis for claiming Obama was opposed to the war???
Veepstakes: Pooh-Silky ‘08!
obama-edwards 08
http://www.michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/veepstakes-pooh-silky-08/
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pic of obama / edwards is priceless
Isn’t it Biden? Or is it Webb? Isn’t he going to piss some people off when he finally makes up his mind? Does he understand that he has all of the Edwards voters he’s likely to get?
wanna laugh —
Reverend Jeremiah Wright - Obama’s ‘God D**n America’ Pastor Editorial Cartoons
NUMBER OF CARTOONS: 85
http://www.scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/reverend-jeremiah-wright-obamas-racist-pastor-editorial-cartoons/
Rove: Obama’s the Guy at the Country Club Holding a Martini Making Snide Comments About Everyone Else
I never thought I’d agree with Karl Rove.
Obama is nothing if not full of himself arrogant.
False ego………
Please forgive the excursion into psychobabble here.
But it’s not so atypical of drug abusers.
He didn’t get into that lifestyle by accident.
There’s something missing inside.
He’s filled it with politics.
Ditto for Bill Clinton, just to be fair, although I do think Bill has outgrown it.
But it was the same deal.
Ditto for Bush. Bush is an alcoholic not in recovery.
It is our national problem. I don’t see a real willingness to admit it yet.
We aren’t Russia, in other words.
But I think every conversation I have with my normie friends revolves around their addictions.
That’s the baseline. Shopping, overeating, alcohol, men, women, sex, gambling…..you name it, it’s an issue.
We cannot produce policians out of a vacuum. They are us. We are them.
So, Obama does represent “Us” in this base sense.
*sigh*
I think the solution is to not play “gotcha” politics but, instead, focus on insisting on true integrity.
That way, Bill Clinton take his hits for lack of honesty. So does Obama.
And so do the rest of us.
Annin, if you Google Presidents and extra martial affairs, you will by shocked by how few names are NOT on the list. I looked after I heard Grover Cleveland’s mistress had a child while he was president. Warring Harding paid for a world tour for his mistress after she threatened to spill the beans.
Jack Kennedy’s serial affairs and sexual addiction were well know by the press, but they protected him.
I loved Jackie and still have the greatest admiration for her and this story doesn’t change that because I don’t think I have the right to judge her. Here is a story from her biography and appears in other books including the unauthorized biography of Frank Sinatra.
During his presidential campaign, she threatened to divorce him and when he heard, Joseph Kennedy invited her to Hyannis Port to talk. In the end, they made an agreement he would open unlimited credit for her at several exclusive dress shops in return for her corporation.
She would periodically go to these stores and make large purchases, hand them over to someone (believed to be her sister) for resale. Her motives weren’t clear. She had been raised in a household constantly short of money, but aristocratic and she had a great deal of insecurity. Or, she might have been giving the Kennedy family the finger or a combination. It is doubtful anyone believes her marriage to Onassis was anything more than convenience.
But it took Bill Clinton’s bj to get the press really stirred up with righteous indignation and the Republicans took it to the point of asking him, under oath, and the rest is history. Obama’s campaign and the press succeeded in making it an issue in Hillary’s campaign. The late Tim Russert even asked her about “Monica” in a debate for the senate in NY.
I am not attempting to justify what he did and the sex lives of politicians, including Larry Craig and so many others, do not interest me at all and I will not believe Larry Sinclair’s charge until he provides the evidence. Obama, like anyone else, is entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
I do, however, believe Obama’s campaign has encouraged the introduction of sins of the husband in this election. Just another reason to loath them.
Are you telling us that there is no evidence that Obama ever made that speech?
If so, what a lying little f*@K!
Director Spike Lee said he’s getting his tickets to Barack Obama’s inauguration, and he believes it’ll ring in a “chocolate city.”
“It’s going to be before Obama, ‘B.B.,’ and after Obama — ‘A.B.’ — and some folks need to get used to this,” Lee said Thursday. “And I’m going to be at the inauguration — getting my hotel reservation now.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/spike-lee-sees-chocolate-city-under-an-obama-administration
Chocolate City? And which race is filled with racists?
Just Say NOBAMA and
Just Say No to Spike Lee’s Chocolate City
Why are you guys so hard on Spike Lee? He is making a movie that showed how GWB allowed NO to be devastated and destroyed.
Because he’s a racist? You’re going to see a backlash because of this reverse racism. Is that unexpected?
BO, MO, WRIGHT, FARRAKHAN, LEE, PFLEGER, JESSE JACKSON JR., AL SHARPTON and their ILK have set race relations in this country BACK by DECADES.
Now there my liberal feathers bristle. Nope. This is reality.
Let’s deal with it.
That’s a bit of an underground group, of course. But look how it mobilized 12% of the population!
90% is undeniable.
I figure you and have talked with the remaining 10% personally.
I’m not one that think Obama is Hilter’s reincarnation.
I think he’s a suit.
Just the same ole ineffectual BS with a tan.
That’s why I personally am sad.
I really like our country. I think it’s worth the struggle.
I don’t like that we’re just doing the same ole crap again.
He’s just a suit. Not hitler, not Marxist, not even impressive.
He was the “no present” man who beat the “solutions” woman.
That is bad enough.
I want Donna, Dean and Pelosi to present evidence that the speech exists or I want those lying little %^()^(##@ off the freaking air and out of the congress!
There is no proof the speech exists.
Just wondering…
What happened to O’boy’s supposed 15 point lead?
Gallup has it at 2 points and Rassmussen at 6. A Statistical tie.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
Flip Flops anyone?
Do you notice fewer trolls today? hmmmmmmmm
I am noticing less and less trolls everywhere. I am noticing a lot of O’boys supporters having second thoughts, especially regarding the public funding flip flop, and the Presidential Seal Steal.
For another, this site scares the Obots. It gives them nightmares.
Actually, I’ve noticed moderation. LOL* I’ve retorted to trolls, only to find my reply gone as well as the troll.
Larry and Susan haved cracked down.
this primary was a race for delegates. Hillary lost fair and square. Don’t believe me? Ask Wolfson and MCauliffe.
January 9, 2008:
WOLFSON: I guess one other thing I’d add is that, as you know, this is a race for delegates. And we currently enjoy a lead in delegates, thanks to the great — some of the great super delegates that we have on this call and around the country.
MCAULIFFE: [...] I’ve said from day one, and this is the point I tried to make yesterday on television when everybody was asking me questions about after Iowa and New Hampshire what happens, I’ve always viewed it sort of as a 27-state contest.
But, listen, I always said we’re going to win some, we’re going to lose some. And at the end of the day it’s getting a basket of delegates.
January 25, 2008:
WOLFSON: Well, you know, as you know, all of the polls have Senator Obama ahead. I think he has run a strong campaign in South Carolina. He began there ahead; he remains ahead.
And we have said since Iowa that this is a race for delegates. It’s a race that we are ahead in. We have more delegates than Senator Obama.
February 6, 2008:
CECIL: Well, our goal at the end of last night was to be ahead in super delegates and overall delegates. And, in fact, this morning, Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.
…[WOLFSON] We think that we are in the poll position because we have a lead, overall, in delegates. We think it is going to be very difficult for Senator Obama to make up that lead because of the way in which the party allocates its delegates proportionately.
So we feel very good about that. But this is going to be a neck-and-neck contest for the foreseeable future.
Senator Obama does enjoy some advantages in the contests in the rest of February, but not in a way that should permit him to overcome our lead in delegates.
WOLFSON: And overall, we have a significant lead among delegates, overall, which, obviously, at the end of the day is what is going to positively determine which Democrat is our party’s nominee.
Yes, and the pledged and super delegates can change and vote for hillary at the Dem Convention.
Don’t believe me? Read it here in the Convention Rules.
You know, the rules that Donkey Brazier and her poor Mum love so much.
Pray that the Repubs don’t mortally wound your Boy before the Convention.
“Unpledged delegates are able to cast their vote for any presidential candidate at the Convention.”
“Pledged delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the Convention.”
http://www.demconvention.com/delegate-voting
Maybe we should remind her/him that the first vote at the Conention is a PRIVATE/SECRET vote too. Delegates could turn the convention on its head and vote for Hillary.
correction: Conention = convention
Yes indeed! It was a race for 2025 PLEDGED Delegates and after MI and FL were seated by half and 4 delegates stolen from Hillary and given to Obamarrhoid, the count went up to 2118.
I love how the MSM and talking heads and the DC elites and the DNC have changed the narrative of this race. When this primary began, all we heard was each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee…each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee….each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee…
Then FL and MI were seated (by half and 4 delegates stolen from Hillary and given to BO) and the number went up to 2118 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee and NOW, those numbers/RULES are IGNORED they are using the SUPER DELEGATES to get to that number (2118) WHICH IS BOGUS.
NEITHER candidate has the required PLEDGED DELEGATES to win the nomination. Everyone in the media knows this. Everyone in the media is LYING about this “process.”
Hillary has 1923 TOTAL Delegates (Pledged and Supers)
1637 = PLEDGED DELEGATES
286 = SUPER DELEGATES
BO has 2156 TOTAL DELEGATES
1762 = PLEDGED DELEGATES
394 = SUPER DELEGATES.
As you can see, which is clear to anyone with a brain, NEITHER CANDIDATE HAS THE REQUIRED 2118 PLEDGED DELEGATES. BO IS NOT THE NOMINEE.
They’re trying to pull the wool over your eyes again. Now that every state and territory has voted, NEITHER CANDIDATE CAN WIN ENOUGH PLEDGED DELEGATES TO BE THE NOMINEE AND THAT IS WHY THEY CHANGED THE 2118 PLEDGED DELEGATES TO include Super Delegates in the TOTAL COUNT.
DO NOT BE HOODWINKED AND BAMBOOZLED.
I am asking and I ask YOU, too to ask to have a meeting with Hillary attended by her loyal supporters WITHOUT THE MEDIA!!!! Since Hillary has a huge campaign debt, this meeting would also be part fundraiser to help out with this debt. It also would be a way to weed out the Obamabots who would try to gain entry to find out what was being said.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK HILLARY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER: 703-469-2008. IF YOU FEEL THAT HILLARY WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY BY THE DNC AND THE MEDIA AS WELL AS THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN, PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER: 703-469-2008. IF YOU FEEL IN YOUR HEART THAT THERE IS STILL A CHANCE TO TURN THIS TRAVESTY AROUND, PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER: 703-469-2008.
http://www.alwaysforhillary.blogspot.com/
I don’t think Hillary is interested in turning this “traversty” around- like she said, life is too short and the stakes are too high.
Where did Hillary say “life is too short and the stakes are too high”? Can you provide a source? Or are you talking out of your posssumus.
Also, what exactly is a “traversty”?
“Unpledged delegates are able to cast their vote for any presidential candidate at the Convention.”
“Pledged delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the Convention.”
http://www.demconvention.com/delegate-voting
That phony Presidential Seal is as close your Boy will ever get to the White House.
I do believe she said something like that in her speech when she suspended her campaign, but that doesn’t mean her supporters have to follow suit. I think she now knows we won’t.
She has to play nice. The thugs in the Senate will make her life a living hell if she doesn’t. Those are the same THUGS who forced her to suspend her campaign. ASSHOLES.
You are right. It was in her speech when she suspended.
One Democratic Nominee
One Republican Nominee
One Whitey Tape
PRICELESS!
I know. I can’t wait, can you? Extra butter on your popcorn?
I want some chocolate — yep chocolate while I watch the performances! It will be quite a show.
That would be the chocolate snack — as in eating snacks while watching the fools parade.
Ghetto Presidential Seals, Chocolate Cities, All Whites Off The US Dollars. 40 oz bottles on the White House Lawn, People we got to stop this Obama madness. Rappers are already talking about Freak Neek up in the White House. Obama wants a Ghetto World…Jay Z singing Got 99 problems but a bitch aint 1. DJ Quick spinning the joint Bitch Better Have My Money and Farrakhan and Wright leading the White House Prayers On How To Beat Whitey Azz Today.
I was since the media is doing anything and congress and the White House isn’t doing anything. Is it possible that we could all sign a petition to file a citizens arrest against Obama for knowingly using this seal?
http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+462+0++%28%29%20%20AND%20%28%2818%29%20ADJ%20USC%29%3ACITE%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%28713%29%29%3ACITE%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20
Here is the key part of the Code as it applies to the Obama Seal:
“any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof”
In otherwords, the seal does not need to be an exact copy to be in violation of this law.
While there are no provisions for “citizens arrest” in Federal code, we should demand prosecution.
If the Presidential Seal were a copywrighted corporate logo, Obama would be facing a multitude of copyright infringement lawsuits.
This is OUR Corporate Logo of OUR united States, and we need to protect it from any usurper.
The minute the US has a “corporate” logo, we’re dead meet.
Our government is NOT a corporation, THAT type of sick think got us into this mess, in the first place.
Ah.
or meat, too…
Off to make Brazilian cheese now…
You’re too cute.
I like meet better.
All I can say is O’boy opened the door with his “and did I mention he’s Black comment”.
I used to like Spike Lee, and I like his work, but that get used to “Chocolate City” comment says it all about most of the Blacks in this country.
So much for O’boy being President of the UNITED STATES…. He wants to be President of CHOCOLATE CITY…
My mom use to yell at me for playing Black Sabbath…
Loudest Band I ever heard. Nassau Coliseum , Black Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult and J Giels Band.
BO’s stated position in one segment of the video is the daren close to McCain’s.
I can see why MO says he is pathetic. Can’t wait till that one gets 527′ed.
This is not my beautiful wife, this not my house…how did i get here?
I am not ready to make nice…
Papa was a rollin stone…
Got all them?
Now play all three in your head at once.
Don’t let go of this one, Susan. This is perhaps the central tenet of Obama adulation: He was against the war, which is proof of his superior judgment.
Oh yes, it came at high personal risk. I think I saw him ahead of Keyes 75% to 25%, but it was risky for him to make this principled stand. If he “was one of the most vocal opponents of the war,” then surely we don’t have to rely on this one speech. It would be part of his platform and in multiple speeches he made in that race.
That is devastating in itself. The further effect is that Mr. Obama would have to convince Americans still reeling from 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq, that now is the time for America’s first Arab-American president.
We all know what chance that has of succeeding.
Of course, that would only happen if Mr. Obama told the truth about his racial composition. To tell the truth means Mr. Obama will have to admit that which he has never been forced to admit before, even in the face of the massive lies of his autobiography: Mr. Obama’s entire projection of who he is, and what he is, is a lie.
http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10607
More than likely all of us heard Barky lie and misconstrue and mislead people saying McCain will keep our troops in Iraq 100 years…Truth is,McCain said we could be in Iraq 100 yrs..Noting, we have troops all over the world including S. korea,Germany and other prts of the world.
Obama has mislead America saying crapabout McCain he himself agress with…Here is Barky’s proposal….Same as McCain…
Also Barky voted to fund the War…Isn’t funding the war equal to agreeing to be there?
The Obama plan allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain as basic force protection, to engage in counter-terrorism, and to continue the training of Iraqi security forces. If the Iraqis are successful in meeting the 13 benchmarks for progress laid out by the Bush Administration, this plan also allows for the temporary suspension of the redeployment, provided Congress agrees that the benchmarks have been met and that the suspension is in the national security interest of the United States.
http://www.votesmart.org/speech_detail.php?sc_id=349241&keyword=&phrase=&contain
Barky,acused McCain of old age,well truth is Barky has a integrity issue he can’t seem to overcome….
so, Obama is saying the troops stay until the benchmarks are met? Benchmarks put in place by the Bush admin - which would mean the Bush admin never had the intention of staying for years in Iraq and had benchmarks that would need to be met before the troops could be withdrawn without causing complete havoc.
Barack Obama released his first general election ad on Friday, which seems aimed above all to answer some early concerns about his biography and experience. It’s a well made ad, but it also offers an example of the kind of brazen padding of the resume that Obama will inevitably need to engage in, and which will carry serious risks for him.
About 46 seconds into the ad, we are told that Obama “passed laws” that “extended healthcare for wounded troops who’d been neglected,” and in the usual manner of these political commercials we are given a little citation at the bottom. The citation reads “Public Law 110-181 1/28/08”. That law is the only federal legislation cited in the ad — the other two items mentioned were from the Illinois legislature and referred to other issues raised in the ad.
Public Law 110-181 was the 2008 defense authorization bill. It passed the Senate by 91 to 3 in January, with six Senators not voting. Among those six absentees was Barack Obama. So he cites a bill he didn’t even vote for. Did he contribute to it in some way that might be reasonably referred to as extending healthcare for wounded troops who’d been neglected? It certainly doesn’t seem that way, as even Obama supporters at the Daily Kos discovered when they tried to answer some of the bloggers who pointed to Obama’s citation of the bill. They found that Obama had tried to insert an amendment that had to do with screenings for service members returning from deployments, and one that would ease the discharge of service members found to have personality disorders, but neither amendment passed. Another part of the bill, calling for inspector general reports about hospital facilities, had come from a different bill Obama had sponsored.
Even under the most generous reading imaginable could any of that count as passing legislation that extended health care for wounded troops? The Chicago Tribune noted the problem on its blog last week but defended Obama by pointing out that John McCain didn’t vote for the bill either. That would be an interesting piece of information if John McCain had cited this bill as among his chief legislative accomplishments.
The Obama team’s desire to pad the resume is understandable — it’s awfully slim after all. But this kind of dishonesty will catch up with them…or at least it should
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2YxNTk0NzBiNjgzZmY0MjEwYzg5ODViMjMxN2JlY2Y=
Well even if McCain didn’t vote for it, it still doesn’t make it right for Obama to claim that he had done something when he didn’t do it. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I never accepted that excuse from my kids so why should I accept it from someone who wants to be president?
So when was the speech recreated? Was it recreated for the purpose of the presidential race? If so this looks like an opportunistic move to milk as much out of something that he didn’t care that much about. After all, if peace was so important to Obama, why did he not take more action? Why did he say in 2004 that he’d have done the same thing as Bush?
Looks like the “educated” elites are duped again…But they’re too stupid to stop trying to get on the bus.
Anna Ana Mus: Facts have the Clinton administrastion connecting Unsama Bin Laden to Iraq and Saddam Hussein..Clintion administration first knew Iraq had WMDs….I’m not sure why the Facts are not being accepted but Sudan offered Unsama Bin Laden to the Clinton administration…An indictment remains in force for Unsama Bin Laden…Obama is way out of touch….http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
Bill Clinton was never “offered” bin Laden by Sudan or any other country. He did issue an indictment and placed bin Laden at the top of the Most Wanted.
You must be looking at the Republican Propaganda bok of “their facts as they want them to be”.
This is an article that all should read imo. I have wondered about this since Obama was declared the supposed winner. Sorry I couldn’t copy the live url. Maybe someone else could.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-is-fox-news-protecting-obama/
If posted before I didn’t catch it so I apologize for repeating it.
Bill Clinton was our greatest president. If he hadn’t constantly been sidetracked by republicans trying to tear him and Hillary apart who would have accomplished much much more. Bill Clinton will always be a great politician and speaker. I don’t bother listening to the hype from the news idiots. They need to exit their jobs and let real news people take over. The corporate giants who own our media need to be taken apart. Spike Lee is an idiot as well as Will Smith. A person’s skin color has nothing to do with ascertaining that person’s ability to be a good politician or president. The first thing is character and Obama has none. If the African Americans cannot see that then are as stupid as Obama.
anyone else notice that now they are spelling Bin Laden’s first name as “Usama” rather than “Osama” which has been the norm for years, lol.
Obama Polishes His Resume
http://blog.pumapac.org/wp-content/uploads/blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/obamaflipflopperfinal.jpg
Obama the flip-flopper
Thanks Typical Irishman
Governor Ryan Signs “Halal Food Act” - prepared according to Islamic law.
SPRINGFIELD — Governor Ryan today signed Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
Senate Bill 750 was sponsored in by
Senators Barack Obama, D-Chicago,
Christine Radogno, R-La Grange, Laurence Walsh, D-Elwood, Louis Viverito, D-Burbank, and Ira Silverstein, D-Chicago and Representatives Tom Dart, D-Chicago, Eileen Lyons, R-Western Springs, Gwenn Klinger, R-Springfield, and Anne Zickus, R-Palos Hills.
http://www.illinois.gov/pressreleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=1517
WHY IS OBAMA ASHAMED OF HIS MUSLIM HERITAGE?
Obama, “I am for it while I am against it.”
The audacity of audacity!