Puma08’s Will Bower on Fox & Friends
By SusanUnPC on June 27, 2008 at 1:30 AM in Barack Obama, DNC, Democratic National Convention
Will Bower of Puma08 and JustSayNoDeal.com coalitions appeared on Thursday morning’s Fox & Friends — but got short-changed by CNN later in the day:
Will also appeared on today’s CNN Situation Room — but he got, to say the least, “screwed” by the predominantly Obama-biased CNN team:
LARRY SABATO, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: The reality hasn’t quite caught up to the image that’s going to be projected. The reality is that a lot of Clinton supporters are still unhappy. Their feelings are raw after a very tough campaign.
SNOW: Clinton supporter Will Bower rejecting the unity bandwagon.
WILL BOWER, JUST SAY NO DEAL: A lot of us still want to see Hillary Clinton as the nominee and we’re working hard to make that happen. It’s still possible.
That was IT for Will on The Situation Room.
Uh, CNN, if you’re going to have a guest make an EFFORT to be on your show, give them time to say more than two short sentences, rather than fill up the air time with the predictable pundits.
This is one of the reasons I no longer watch CNN: The coverage is lopsided and guests do not get a chance to speak.
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He should have asked them where Obama’s real birth certificate them.
That would have been great.
I expect that a whole lot of Americans want to know where Obama’s real birth certificate is.
The fact the BC on the Obama website is phony has reached beyond the internet blogs and is now on the drive home radio News.
I’ve made a special effort NOT to tell my husband about Obama’s fake birth certificate — and dear husband comes home and says — have you heard??? about Obama’s fake birth certificate?? My husband does not get his news from the Internet — but rather from the radio on his drive to and from work. I expect that Obama’s fake birth certificate may have been discussed at work — lots of techs and IT people in the Northwest.
So yes — WHERE IS BOBO’S real birth certificate. We are waiting!!
Which station does he listen to?
I’m not sure I understand why the birth cert is such a big deal. He was born to a citizen of Kenya, and a citizen of the USA. That gives him dual citizenship.
I’d find it far more interesting to know if he has a Kenyan passport. Many dual citizens have a passport from each of their countries of origin.
Is a dual-citizen eligible to run for President? Even if he relinquished his Kenyan citizenship at some point in his life, are there rules for eligibility that address this?
Dual citizens are not eligible.
Fox is the only news channel I watch. Never CNN or MSNBC.
It started when Hillary was still competing for the nomination. They were the only network who gave her decent coverage. The others were hateful to her and her supporters.
Who would have thought? Fair and Balanced indeed! And I used to read Al Franken books! What a sorry year for the Dems.
I’m an independent now and glad I have distanced myself from the dem elites that have embraced Chicago style hoodlum politics.
I’m for change! Throw the bums out who pushed Obama on us!
Wow, me too.
I am not leaving the party until after the election. In the meantime, I send all the crap they send me, begging for money, through the shredder.
To hell with them. To hell with Howard Dean, to hell with the thuggery.
I am not feeling it at all.
If they mail you a prepaid envelope for a donation, stuff it full of monopoly money. Make them use their resources
I wrote a check and then cut it in half, and sent the right half in their postage paid envelope. Half a vote gets half a check, right?
There were other suggestions here: http://www.theotherdemocrats.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=122&view=findpost&p=480
There are lots of ways to use Barky’s (and the DNC’s) self-addressed, postage-paid envelopes. Add your ideas to our list above.
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
Much more fun is to send back a donation of $0 with a little added statement as to why. Then write McCain ‘08 and PUMA and justsaynodeal on the return envelope. On the Obama for President ones I get, I send it back with $0 and a note and on the envelope I cross out Obama and write bad. So it says Barack Obama, bad for America, as it goes through the mail! I also usually write loser next to his name, but I might start writing liar instead. It’s free fun because it is their postage paid envelope, too! Hahahaha.
I think I may start slipping in some phoney money, like monopoly money and say, here’s some phoney money to go along with this phoney candidate. And then of course I’ll add Go McCain, PUMA and justsaynodeal!
Those are such great ideas. They gave me ideas of my own, only I eventually got stumped because I couldn’t figure out how to fit a turd in an envelope.
The thing that bugs me, and this jumped out at me during the interview, is Obama is “likable enough.” He has been in the Senate one year. Why not wait? Why then run such a scorched earth campaign? Why not let the voters make up their own minds? There are so many things that bother me about the primaries.
Me to…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReaNbXkygn8
Very Nice video !!
Will gave a good answer to why we would support McCain - we have NO IDEA what positions Obama holds, because they *change* constantly.
Good job Will.
With McCain, we know we’re going to probably get ‘Bush Lite’ or maybe even better. He has always been on the left-side of the Republican party. With Obama, we have no clue. With Bush, we knew who his puppetmasters were. With Obama, we have no clue who they are (since he clearly has no work history, no work ethic, no real experience in doing a damn thing except running for office). Under McCain, the country couldn’t be any worse off than now. With Obama, it’s entirely possible because again, we have no clue what he stands for, who his handlers are, or truly, even if he was ELIGIBLE for the office of POTUS.
What we do know is that he gave $44,000+/- to a racist church last year alone. We do know that he has racist contacts, that his mother was a real ‘revolutionary’, that his wife is a racist, that he is an elitist snob, and that he does not speak well ‘off the cuff’ and doesn’t THINK well ‘on the fly’.
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
I would not be surprised that Bower will end up as “Worst Person” for speaking out. I’m sure Obermann and Matthews will be marginalizing or down playing him over at MSDNC.
who the f**k cares what those bastards think —
just f**k them –lol
Sometimes I wonder if having Will and the others who are now guests on these media entertainment programs is the media’s way of spreading the word, trashing Obama, and directing the vote toward McCain.
This is a perfect way for them to say, “we’re obligated to give the news”, but WE didn’t say it.
This is the reason why Lanny Davis isn’t appearing on CNN anymore. Total hacks and biased for BaJoke.
Has anybody seen the front page of the Huffington report? They really need Hillary and are so trying to convince everybody they have her.
I saw it. Disgusting. After tearing her to pieces all year. Fluffpo, msnbc & cnn are all such flaming hypocrites. They have really underestimated us. Go Pumas!
Great article about Just Say No Deal and PUMA in the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162.html?hpid=features1&hpv=national
Yes, I caught this earlier. It is a good article.
We must begin a movement to impeach Pelosi and criminal investigations to those who stole the election.
Impeach Pelosi……Impeach Pelosi
This must be done NOW
You don’t need to impeach her. She is up for re-election all you need to do is support her oponents.
Thank you for the link to the transcript. I can’t believe those emails Blitzer got. Only one supporter of Hillary for the convention. They should be ushers? Pay off their own debt? Don’t remind everyone she has 18 million voters, it’s Obama’s time.
And then there is another winner in that transcript
Quote~JAMES FAGAN(D), MASSACHUSETTS STATE HOUSE: I’m going to rip them apart. I’m going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined. That when they’re 8 years old, they throw up. When they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep. When they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.
How could anyone talk like that about a child that has been raped? This is what he’ll do to them, an 8 year old child?…what is going on with Democrats? This is the change we’re going to get? The whole transcript is unbelievable. I wish Will would have asked about his birth certificate. He didn’t get a chance to make a point on anything.
Will is a good spokesman for PUMA, unfortunately FOX appears to be the only station that will allow PUMA and JustSayNoDeal to say anything. The MSM is in the tank for Obama and treat him with kid gloves. I agree that the Obama is tripping all over himself and is difficult to understand what this guy is about or if he even has a clue. The media does not seem to want to hold Obama accountable.
I’m voting for McCain. Writing Hillary in or voting 3rd party only benefits Obama. McCain is in trouble in the Republican party since they view him as a liberal. McCain will need all of the help he can get in order to prevent Obama from winning.
CNN and MessNBC are still trying to pretend that PUMA & JustSayNoDeal are just a few fringies. And they get some clueless dimwit that knows nothing about PUMA and JustSayNoDeal to talk about it and assure everyone that we’ll all come home to the party once we “heal”.
What drivel and so expected. Too bad the world’s only Super Power doesn’t have a credible media. Talking heads, Infotainment and a largely uninformed electorate. Ever wonder how long a Super Power can remain a super power given those facts?
For me, CNN and MSNBC don’t exist.
I gave up MSNBC when Keith came on board. There is enough just in the news to get my fill of vile. Switched to CNN. I guess now I’ll move on over to FOX to get my news from. I usually just read their articles on the net. Comment.
I still have a problem going over to Fox. I think they’re ‘playing’ this whole thing just for ratings. I can’t go to MSNBC any longer. It’s depressing.
The only news I get now is online through blogs and message boards, such as the one I belong to (link behind my name)
The Fox motive does not matter.
They are making a change for the better.
I honestly believe that they are happy to expand their base beyond the loony fringe.
Even if they start with iimpure motive, they must be pleased with the results, and want to keep us as viewers, and strive toward fair and balanced.
I am convinced personalities like Bill O’Reilly welcome a wide audience.
Yes, CNN and MSNBC are dead to me. For months now.
It’s nice to see Will on TV. Pumas of Just Say No Deal get a lot of media coverage which is great.
CNN threw Hillary under the bus when Obama unloaded millions in advertising to CNN. I used to watch and read their website/blogs. It was always filled with Obama advertising, even on their front page. It was pretty sick. I’ve never seen a major news channel have campaign advertisements on their home page.
CNN was 50/50 until Obama used CNN to run those national ads to hit Florida even tho it was against the rules.
Obama = GW Bush for shizzle. He is a typical shady politician.
Will is really the good rep for JSND. He said everything right, got the most important point across. And he clearly explained the purpose of our coalition: NObama.
Will, you did a great job, as usual, thanks! And thanks for being sure to correct their misassumptions
GO PUMA!
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The networks keep saying that guilt by association doesn’t mean anything. That’s crazy! Wright, Pfleger, etc- these are BO’s friends and advisers. BO is a liar who feels exactly as his friends do. His wife seals the deal. COME ON!!!
This denial of BO’s racism is just bizarre. He HATES White people!
Did you see this ridiculous quote by James Roosevelt, head of the RBC in the WAPO article? (Re: “cheating”):
This kind of talk drives James Roosevelt crazy. As co-chairman of the DNC’s rules and bylaws committee, he presided over the meeting that decided the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegations. He calls the notion that Obama got preordained, preferential treatment “just ridiculous.” While he understands the disappointment of Clinton supporters — his daughter and wife backed the New York senator — he says the party’s rules were “followed and interpreted fairly.”
Either he is a completely dense or a liar. I sat there and watched that entire RBC debacle. They followed the party rules? They violated fundamental DNC principles: allocating “uncommitted delegates” (ALL of them) to a candidate instead of those delegates going to the convention uncommitted; then GAVE him four of Hillary’s based on EXIT polls, absentee ballots and phantom voters who might have gone to the polls?! They never mentioned that he campaigned in Florida with ads, which should have stripped him of ALL his delegates there; and lied about him blocking revotes in MI & FL. And that’s all I can think of this a.m. before coffee. THAT is why the PUMA movement has formed with commitment and passion. They manipulate and then lie to our faces, as if we cannot see what is going on.
For me, the fundamental issue is the undemocratic process of the primaries and the deliberate manipulation to select an inadequate and deceitful nominee. I will never endorse fraud.
AOL has an ADMITTEDLY UNSCIENTIFIC straw poll, and it shows Mc Cain beating Obama in every state, even in Illinois. The entire map is red. The percentage overall is 69 % for Mc Cain and 39% for Obama.
I was watching the Will Bower’s video on uTube and halfway through it crashed. Will Bowers was great, but the link went dead just when he was getting the reasons PUMAs won’t vote for Obama. I can’t access it now. Obamatrons hacking uTube now?
Update: You can access the other PUMA tapes offered by uTube at the uTube site, but the video of Will Bowers appearance on Fox this morning is not working. At the uTube site, it indicates that there were 539 views of the tape so far this morning. Doesn’t seem like enough hits to cause it to crash. Larry, can you check into this? Would uTube remove a video at the request of the Obama campaign? We have censorship in the MSM, and I’m aware that the Obama campaign has been attacking and shutting down anti-Obama bloggers, but this is ridiculous! Will they stop at nothing to win?
Mine is still shut down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReaNbXkygn8
We Puma’s are not handling the questions on McCain and issues well IMO, we may disagree on some key party manufactured wedgies that have been historically used by Party’s to divide our power as groups within the electrote, but on many more issues if you drop the Party manufactured wedgies we do agree or, this PUMA does, for example I want a freeze of Congressional Discretionary spending now, Pelosi has just changed who receives the FREEBIE from my sweat, I want an empowered People not a People dependent nation enabled by ethical regulation, On Iraq same as the speaker I don’t believe Obama for a second cmapaing rhetoric Powers said as much in her UK interview I also never believed the Iraq spin for the invasion, never not a day, but we haven’t heard the acknowledgement from Obama or Dem’s about Iraq’s real issue as an alternative from the Saudi’s Oil reserves that were shuting down after 911 or the Dems Congress failed failed attempts since 2006 to bring our troops home, so I don’t believe their supposed out tomorrow bunk and believe McCain is acknowledging the obvious, unfortunate as that is.
And what I am positive of, is I as a Puma strongly disagree with Obama’s on and his supporters on many issues his bigotry towards women, non people of color and I reject his philosophy of “We the People” as victims of government forces, of corporations, of republicans who need him so he can rescue us and make us feel hopeful, when what we really require is hard work and solutions, strong leadership taking on Congress, tackling the hard issue and not enabling the People’s addiction of dependency high tax revenues and grievance that divides us vs. the empowered proud capable strong Peoples we must be.
President Fell Good as Party enabler is just more of the same sick cheerleader Bush governance we reject that would be the third Bush term would it not..
Don’t trust the CNN blogs, they are not a reflection of the people that read their site. Throughout the primaries my pro Hillary comments were published 1% of the time. Even now, CNN only publishes my comments on McCain, none of my pro Hillary anti Obama get published. Their monitors must be Donna Brazile clones.
Unity New Hampshire
Looks like a Clinton Supporter is starting up a Democrats for Mccain Campaign in Unity. His name is Jim MCConaha,and Valery Mitchell.He was just on Fox saying he will support Mccain,and not Obama. I guess this Unity in New Hampshire, might be interesting to listen to after all.
Hmm…4 years of purgatory with McCain or 4 years of heck with Obama? I’ll take the purgatory.
McCain ‘08/Hillary ‘12
This guy Obama has a lot of tricks up his sleeve and he needs to be found out. He would be the absolute worst President ever. I know he’s behind in Tn. Tennessse will never elect him. Thats one state we won’t have to worry about. We have a lot of Military people here who hate Obama. He’s not fooling us gay people ethier. We are not falling for his false concerns about gay rights. He is tring to make JM look bad saying he is against gay marriage. In Tennessee they won’t let us get married which I could care less about. If we could marry fine but they say no. I say civil union is ok with me. I been with my partner 18 years and we are more married than most people. We have love and thats more than I can say for most people.I’m voting for John Mccain not because he will or will not let me get married. I’m voting for him to save out country from this fool Obama. My country and its safety mean alot to me. Thirty five years ago I couldn’t have written this down to be published in any public forum. 35 years ago they would have harrassed the hell out of me. I feel the LGBT has come a long way. we have much further to go but at least thanks to Bill Clinton and others we have made progress.
It seems you guys are real BADASS losers !!
In April you all said he would never be the nominee - now he is !
You all are now saying he will never Unite the Democratic Party - now he and Hillary Clinton are on the move.
You all say Hillary will not be on his ticket as VP - I say just wait and see !!
You say he will never beat McCain - I say again let´s just wait and see !!
As we Italians say “I wish you all long lives, so you can all see us triumph [Obama President]“
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I just recently heard about P.U.M.A. from a couple of very angry and bitter women who identified strongly with Hillary, and I’m sure that they had held great hope that she would win the nomination. I do agree that Hillary, like me, like all women, had to battle and overcome “isms” - such as sexism, femminism. We all saw it in how Katie Couric interviewed her on 60 Minutes, asking her about her diet instead of her policy.
However, I offer to all of you bitter and angry democrats, that Obama has had a great deal of “isms” to overcome as well. Racism, being the biggest- the elephant (pun intended) in the room. Bizarre questions of being black, too black, not black enough, muslim-lover…! Obama is a thoughtful candidate who, whether you like it or not, came out of nowhere and surprised us all with a movement and message that caught on like wildfire. And he won. Yes, it was a close race, but folks he won.
Get over it. Move on!
I just watched a video in which Will Bower was interviewed, hoping to understand just exactly it is that puma and the “just say no” folks are trying to accomplish. I was disappointed to find Bower inarticulate and seemingly guided by hate and anger. Or perhaps guided by a desire for his own “15- minutes” of fame.
I wonder what is driving this “movement.” I can understand being hurt, so hopeful, then greatly disappointed that your candidate did not win the nomination. But to cast childish threats and accusations only reflects poorly on this organization. To blindly say that that Obama is unclear on issues is a cop-out, a blind excuse, immature. PUMA’s spokesperson appears knee-jerk, naive, and self-destructive. I gently recommend that you all grow up. Lick your wounds. Move on and start THINKING about what you can actually do that would be HELPFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE to our nation, instead of throwing tantrums. You are hurting all of us.
By the way, if Hillary were “my candidate”, I would have ran enthusiastically to the polls to vote for her- anything but 4 more of the same mess and disregard for humanity and this nation. McCain? McCain? Are you folks for real????
I ask you this: 4 years from now, if your little mission works and you all go voting for McCain and he wins. Do you honestly think you’ll be as energetically smug and self-righteous as you are today? Will you be able to say to us with a happy heart and mind, “See, WE SURE SHOWED YOU, DIDN’T WE?”
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I am so happy to find this site.
I am a life long Republican, but I have always voted across lines for the Candidate and not just the party.
Today was the first time in my life that I have voted a straight Republican Ticket, and I have been so worried that the Centrist Democrats were being snowed.
I am so grateful that there are still Americans that put America before Party.
Thank you PUMA’s so much.
I was not a Hillary Supporter, but right is right, and what the Democratic Party did to her was not right.
We should have been allowed the choice of the two most experienced candidates.
McCain/Palin in Alabama