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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/the-youth-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-402644</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...about the 'shot J and SC'...

Congratulations on graduating college and the fact you can think for yourself, two major accomplishments.

The media spends so much time devaluing young people and their opinions, except when they are targetted for fads and their money.  

With this interesting political season, I have enjoyed reading their opinions about real topics.

Look forward to seeing you on the boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;about the &#8217;shot J and SC&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Congratulations on graduating college and the fact you can think for yourself, two major accomplishments.</p>
<p>The media spends so much time devaluing young people and their opinions, except when they are targetted for fads and their money.  </p>
<p>With this interesting political season, I have enjoyed reading their opinions about real topics.</p>
<p>Look forward to seeing you on the boards.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/the-youth-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-402623</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....

That is so sad to leave these kids unsupported and frankly vunerable to both predators and the weather when they are helping to elect him.

A lot of people ignore the dangers of the northwest weather patterns, even in the summertime.  WA had a freak blizzard this month.  
So, it makes you wonder if these kids were also left unsupported in the areas with these tornados and floods?   

Anyway, it was very nice of you to give him a meal to stick to his ribs. 

~~~

To UniversityofIowaJR,

Thanks for the post on the youth vote.  It is nice to know that there are people such as yourself watching this thing unfold.  

I can understand supporting Obama if he was the man he claims to be, but it is sad that he is exploiting all the hopes for geniune change.  

While his record proves he is too spineless to vote or simply status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.</p>
<p>That is so sad to leave these kids unsupported and frankly vunerable to both predators and the weather when they are helping to elect him.</p>
<p>A lot of people ignore the dangers of the northwest weather patterns, even in the summertime.  WA had a freak blizzard this month.<br />
So, it makes you wonder if these kids were also left unsupported in the areas with these tornados and floods?   </p>
<p>Anyway, it was very nice of you to give him a meal to stick to his ribs. </p>
<p>~~~</p>
<p>To UniversityofIowaJR,</p>
<p>Thanks for the post on the youth vote.  It is nice to know that there are people such as yourself watching this thing unfold.  </p>
<p>I can understand supporting Obama if he was the man he claims to be, but it is sad that he is exploiting all the hopes for geniune change.  </p>
<p>While his record proves he is too spineless to vote or simply status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intercourse, PA would be appropriate, seeing as how one candidate did get majorly fucked.

Personally, I'd like to see Obama in Truth Or Consequences, NM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intercourse, PA would be appropriate, seeing as how one candidate did get majorly fucked.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to see Obama in Truth Or Consequences, NM.</p>
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		<title>By: stodghie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/the-youth-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-401688</link>
		<dc:creator>stodghie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup and those rights they take for granted are slipping away while they party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup and those rights they take for granted are slipping away while they party.</p>
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		<title>By: stodghie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/the-youth-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-401684</link>
		<dc:creator>stodghie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sad but true. there is no news. msbama? no! abc?, fox, no. so where? search the internet? many are too lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sad but true. there is no news. msbama? no! abc?, fox, no. so where? search the internet? many are too lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: stodghie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodghie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the young have some thinkers like the author of this diary. his like will be the leaders down the road while these obamabots will continue as followers. make no mistake they will follow their parents into the repub party down the road. blood is thicker than the temporary obama mania. oh, they may that is right may vote for him this one time, but the fools we have for leaders won't keep them just as they can no longer count on the democratic base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the young have some thinkers like the author of this diary. his like will be the leaders down the road while these obamabots will continue as followers. make no mistake they will follow their parents into the repub party down the road. blood is thicker than the temporary obama mania. oh, they may that is right may vote for him this one time, but the fools we have for leaders won&#8217;t keep them just as they can no longer count on the democratic base.</p>
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		<title>By: glennmcgahhee</title>
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		<dc:creator>glennmcgahhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the Boston Globe's long expose (Boston.com) of what occurred in Chicago during Obama's tenure as a local organizer, then legislator. When Hillary called out Obama and his slumlord connections during a debate, she got booed. Only now is media beginning to look into her charges and boy, do they ring true. The poor people in Obama's district were left with nothing from all his "organizing".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the Boston Globe&#8217;s long expose (Boston.com) of what occurred in Chicago during Obama&#8217;s tenure as a local organizer, then legislator. When Hillary called out Obama and his slumlord connections during a debate, she got booed. Only now is media beginning to look into her charges and boy, do they ring true. The poor people in Obama&#8217;s district were left with nothing from all his &#8220;organizing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an article a while back that outlined how on-campus Hillary supporters were mercilously ridiculed and pretty much had to go underground in their support, so it is widespread.

I posted this in a previous comment section, but feel it is also very germane to this discussion.  So in case you missed it:

From a psychological assessment of Hitler’s power methods entitled, “Hitler As His Associates Know Him”

He is “…able to muster and organize his people into an efficient smooth-running unit…everybody has a single thought in mind. To do what the Fuehrer wishes.”

He recognizes “the inestimable value of winning the support of youth; realization of the immense momentum given a social movement by the wild fervor and enthusiasm of young people as well as the importance of early training and indoctrination.”

He strives to “appeal to the most primitive, as well as the most ideal inclinations in man, to arouse the basest instincts and yet cloak them with nobility, justifying all actions as means to the attainment of an ideal goal”

He understands that the “masses are as hungry for a sustaining ideology in political action as they are for daily bread. Any movement which does not satisfy this spiritual hunger in the masses will not mobilize their whole-hearted support…”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article a while back that outlined how on-campus Hillary supporters were mercilously ridiculed and pretty much had to go underground in their support, so it is widespread.</p>
<p>I posted this in a previous comment section, but feel it is also very germane to this discussion.  So in case you missed it:</p>
<p>From a psychological assessment of Hitler’s power methods entitled, “Hitler As His Associates Know Him”</p>
<p>He is “…able to muster and organize his people into an efficient smooth-running unit…everybody has a single thought in mind. To do what the Fuehrer wishes.”</p>
<p>He recognizes “the inestimable value of winning the support of youth; realization of the immense momentum given a social movement by the wild fervor and enthusiasm of young people as well as the importance of early training and indoctrination.”</p>
<p>He strives to “appeal to the most primitive, as well as the most ideal inclinations in man, to arouse the basest instincts and yet cloak them with nobility, justifying all actions as means to the attainment of an ideal goal”</p>
<p>He understands that the “masses are as hungry for a sustaining ideology in political action as they are for daily bread. Any movement which does not satisfy this spiritual hunger in the masses will not mobilize their whole-hearted support…”</p>
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		<title>By: MaryPat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryPat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you be referring to that idiot Claire McCaskill?  Or Casey in PA?  It's bad enough that these public officials, who are presumably elected to serve their constituents' interests, would endorse a candidate based on their children's importuning--but what's really mindboggling is that they would choose to publicly reveal their motivations.  Aren't they embarrassed?  If they think doing their children's bidding makes them look like strong and intelligent leaders, they are very sadly mistaken.  They look like idiots.

I recommend a book called "The Dumbest Generation," by Mark Bauerlein.  He demonstrates--quite alarmingly--how a generation blessed with technological advantages that should have made them incredibly smart and engaged in world events have instead used that technology to obsess about themselves and their friendships.  They spend inordinate amounts of time text messaging, sending each other pictures and music, and talking about their lives, especially on social networking sites.  Is it any wonder that when a fad comes along--and that's what Obama is--they all go into herd mentality?  Everyone has to think alike in order to "belong" and take part in the fun.

I applaud the young people who have the courage to stand up to the majority, about any issue or person. A few months ago I read an article written by a male student at Georgetown who was an ardent Hillary supporter.  Needless to say, he wasn't exactly Mr. Popularity on campus.  He took a lot of abuse from his fellow students.  But I strongly suspect many of them respected him--probably more than he will ever know.

It is disheartening that so many college kids can't express an opinion without being profane, disrespectful and outright nasty.  I know from personal experience that many of these kids have been coddled by parents who were more interested in being their children's friends than exercising discipline and authority over them.  I think the reason so many young people react to Obama on an almost irrational level is that they see him as Mr. Cool Guy who they would love to have as a friend.  They aren't deep thinkers searching for a principled leader who will tell them some unpleasant truths--they're looking for the 2008 version of the guy everyone wants to have a beer with.  The very same mindset that gave us eight years of George W. Bush.

Not to get overly dramatic, but the vitriol, selfishness and juvenile behavior I have seen coming from Obama's young supporters during this campaign have caused me to worry about the future of this country.  Maybe I'd feel better if I could find evidence that they know how to cogently express a thought other than "f*ck off bitch."  On the bright side, at least they know how to spell that.

Wonderful blog, UniversityofIowaJR.  YOU give me hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you be referring to that idiot Claire McCaskill?  Or Casey in PA?  It&#8217;s bad enough that these public officials, who are presumably elected to serve their constituents&#8217; interests, would endorse a candidate based on their children&#8217;s importuning&#8211;but what&#8217;s really mindboggling is that they would choose to publicly reveal their motivations.  Aren&#8217;t they embarrassed?  If they think doing their children&#8217;s bidding makes them look like strong and intelligent leaders, they are very sadly mistaken.  They look like idiots.</p>
<p>I recommend a book called &#8220;The Dumbest Generation,&#8221; by Mark Bauerlein.  He demonstrates&#8211;quite alarmingly&#8211;how a generation blessed with technological advantages that should have made them incredibly smart and engaged in world events have instead used that technology to obsess about themselves and their friendships.  They spend inordinate amounts of time text messaging, sending each other pictures and music, and talking about their lives, especially on social networking sites.  Is it any wonder that when a fad comes along&#8211;and that&#8217;s what Obama is&#8211;they all go into herd mentality?  Everyone has to think alike in order to &#8220;belong&#8221; and take part in the fun.</p>
<p>I applaud the young people who have the courage to stand up to the majority, about any issue or person. A few months ago I read an article written by a male student at Georgetown who was an ardent Hillary supporter.  Needless to say, he wasn&#8217;t exactly Mr. Popularity on campus.  He took a lot of abuse from his fellow students.  But I strongly suspect many of them respected him&#8211;probably more than he will ever know.</p>
<p>It is disheartening that so many college kids can&#8217;t express an opinion without being profane, disrespectful and outright nasty.  I know from personal experience that many of these kids have been coddled by parents who were more interested in being their children&#8217;s friends than exercising discipline and authority over them.  I think the reason so many young people react to Obama on an almost irrational level is that they see him as Mr. Cool Guy who they would love to have as a friend.  They aren&#8217;t deep thinkers searching for a principled leader who will tell them some unpleasant truths&#8211;they&#8217;re looking for the 2008 version of the guy everyone wants to have a beer with.  The very same mindset that gave us eight years of George W. Bush.</p>
<p>Not to get overly dramatic, but the vitriol, selfishness and juvenile behavior I have seen coming from Obama&#8217;s young supporters during this campaign have caused me to worry about the future of this country.  Maybe I&#8217;d feel better if I could find evidence that they know how to cogently express a thought other than &#8220;f*ck off bitch.&#8221;  On the bright side, at least they know how to spell that.</p>
<p>Wonderful blog, UniversityofIowaJR.  YOU give me hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny at Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny at Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the O brand changes the flavor from left to center, and backflips galore on it's promise of change, the fad will die out.

O'boy is a fad, and as the real tedium of campaigning and governing begins, that fad is going to look more dull than cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the O brand changes the flavor from left to center, and backflips galore on it&#8217;s promise of change, the fad will die out.</p>
<p>O&#8217;boy is a fad, and as the real tedium of campaigning and governing begins, that fad is going to look more dull than cool.</p>
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