He who sleeps with dogs….
By PaganPower on June 28, 2008 at 9:00 PM in Barack Obama, Cult-Aide, Ed Rendell, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, JustSayNoDeal.Com, PUMA
I used to like Ed Rendell. He seemed like the straight up kind of guy that you could count on to tell it like it is. But no more. Seems Eddie boy has been sippin on the Cult-Aide. And now he wants all of us PUMAs to recognize the error of our ways and join him and the HOUNDs in defeating John McCain.
He starts with a ridiculous premise. And it goes downhill from there.
But here, have a look.
We believe Sen. Clinton supporters should vote for Sen. Obama because, as Hillary herself said so forcefully and poignantly in her great speech a few Saturdays ago, the best way to achieve the changes she has fought so hard to bring to America, and on which she based her campaign, is to support Sen. Obama, whose policies are almost identical to hers.
Well Ed, if that were true then none of us would have supported Hillary to begin with. I mean come on, does it even make sense to say that the best way to achieve the changes Hillary championed is to vote for someone that didn’t champion those issues? Does it even enter that apparently tiny little mind of yours to consider that we supported and still support Hillary BECAUSE Obama does not champion the issues we feel so strongly about?
And like all politicians or supporters that want to over exaggerate their importance Rendell makes the statement we hear from so many quarters.
No one worked harder than I did for Hillary and I believe no one could admire her and what she represents more that I do.
What gets me is that no one ever calls people like Rendell on their arrogant egos. After all, not everyone can work harder or admire her more. So somebody has to be lying. I think I will group Eddie in that liars group.
And in a coup de grâce Rendell makes PUMAs out to be the enemies of freedom. As if we would be the ones responsible for placing an inexperienced, unqualified candidate in the White House. Don’t you get it Eddie? The reason we are united against Obama is because we don’t want to place an inexperienced, unqualified candidate in the most powerful position on earth. That’s your guy Eddie.
So don’t try to unload that cart of donkeyshit on us.
Of course a little revisionist history is required for the partakers of Cult-Aide. This next line just leaves me in uncontrolled hysterics.
Close your eyes and think about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton standing together united at a ceremony for the bill signing of legislation that guarantees every American affordable, effective healthcare.
Earth to Eddie boy Rendell: During the campaign that you supposedly worked harder for Hillary than anyone else do you happen to recall that she stated over and over that Obama did NOT support Universal Health care? Are we now suddenly to believe that he supports it? Where is the briefing paper on that one?
Lets see… he doesn’t support the 4th Amendment, has issues with the 1st Amendment and is confused by the 2nd Amendment. But you want us to believe that he has finally come around to supporting Universal Health care? How about a few sources of substantiating fact?
And just to demonstrate to us that Hound isn’t our enemy he states something completely ridiculous.
One last point – HOUND is not anti-PUMA. We agree with many of your grievances. For example, we, too, believe that the Democratic Party’s nominating process is unfair and undemocratic.
Uh… excuse me. You want us to believe that Obama believes the nominating process is unfair and undemocratic? ROFLMAO. You got to be kidding. Right? I mean your position is absurd. But that is what drinking the Cult-Aide does to someone. They are able at a moment’s notice to say the most ridiculous things with a straight face. And they expect the rest of us to believe it.
And finally Rendell reaches out to PUMAs. But in doing so he decides to belittle us in the process. A skill learned from Obama no doubt.
So, we are asking all PUMA members to curb your disappointment, mute your anger and frustration and join HOUND to help change America. While the PUMA may be more swift and athletic, the HOUND is smarter and more perceptive.
Well, screw that. A PUMA can kill a dog any day of the week. So word to the wise Eddie. Be on the look out for a cat you can’t control. A cat lurking in your backyard. And soon to be knocking on your front door.
Just Say No Deal!
PUMA
I just signed my dog up.
My dogs are honorary PUMAs. I refuse to let them associate with Obamabots.
Obama is doing nothing but pander to the right.
He attacked the Supreme Court’s anti death penalty, and he is catering to gun owners.
McCain will probably accomplish more good than Senator “Present.”
http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.com
I took my hound..a real life HOUND…to Unity and he was less than impressed, shall we say, with the busloads of Obamasses.
Good dog.
I worte this to Harriet Christian. It’s a quote by the Buddha.
Just because a dog is a good barker doesn’t make him a good dog. Just because a man is a good talker doesn’t make him a good man.
BUDDHA
Brilliant, Uppity! My two dog friends are now proud members too!
H is the new W
just say NO to BHO
Good one Uppity
Great one PaganPower
Looks like Ed stepped in some sh*t with this one. He did say he drank the Koolaid… nuff said.
I just sent this to “The New PA Democratic Party”
I just read Rendell’s hilarious call to join HOUNDS. Does he honestly think that millions of voters are not serious about voting for John McCain over Obama? Do you think that life long Democrats have changed their party affiliation on a whim? Do you think any of the reasons why we support Hillary for president is found in Obama? We are not voting for the “lesser of two evils”. We are voting for the person that we feel is more qualified to be president. That his platform and agenda may not mirror ours is second to his character and proven record of experience. I would not have supported Bush if he were a Democrat and i will not support Obama just because he is a Democrat. I guess it is because we are just swift and athletic rather than smart and perceptive like you guys that make you think that we are complete idiots! you have insulted your base yet again. And leave Hillary out of this. We are masters of our own free will and our own vote. WE OWN OUR VOTE — not you, not the DNC -or what is left of it-and certainly not Obama.
Now I only hope I figure out how to get this posted
Good letter. This is really a pretty clear political situation for the Dems. They had all the information they needed to make a wise choice. Experience mattered in every single primary, and those votes went to Hillary.
The DNC thugs are putting forth an unprepared candidate, and they really can’t whine that we all noticed he is sorely lacking in experience, his judgment is highly questionable given what we learned, and he simply isn’t prepared to be president.
Their choice. They backed the wrong candidate.
I know, my english is not very good and I am not our most brilliant blogger. Nevertheless I posted this on HOUND in reply to Gov. Rendell and Sen. Casey’s statement:
“Dear Mr. Rendell and Casey,
I find it hopelessly foolis for you to state that Senator McCain is the lesser qualified candidate for the presidency - in the light of the long list of vitally important issues that B.H. Obama has abandoned with blinding speed, in the name of political expediency. Just to mention a few: Iraq, FISA, gun control, public financing of presidential election, death penalty… The list goes on.
Do you seriously accept us to believe that Obama represents anything democratic?
With Obama in the White House (God help us all!), we would witness a third term of G.W. Bush. Maybe worse. Obama is less qualified, less experienced than G.W. Bush. I personally have serious doubts of his patriotism. He doesn’t stand for any principle other than winning the presidency. He abandoned almost every important position since the beginning of the race. He will have to learn ‘on the job’, but he knows less today than G.W. Bush when he first started.
It is my patriotic duty to vote for a candidate that has a chance to navigate the US foreign politics, the economy to less troubeled waters. That candidate should have been Hillary Clinton. Now only one left: Senator J.S McCain.
I have voted for democrats in the last 16 years (except for Arnold Schwarzenegger). I felt that the Democratic Party represents the values that I hold dear.
To vote for a candidate that received his nomination by rigged process, who doesn’t represent anybody’s values is out of the question for ever. NEVER OBAMA!
This is a historic time. The Democratic Party has abandoned it’s core values to cater to a candidate that should be rolled in tar and feathers and driven out of the village.
I will vote again for democrats when the Party stands for democracy again.
We meet again at the voting booths in November.”
How much did they promise you, ED? I think this whole parade of supporters of bo is nothing but usin michells graceful quote “gimme some”.
Interesting it seems all the dogs are coming out in support of Obama. The strange think is a couple of weeks ago the Obama camp did not seem to care about the Hillary folks, now they finally figured out they can’t win without them. They are finally waking up
apparently Rendell is a dumbass too.
Rendell’s speech was written by Lewis Carroll, it appears.
wodiej — We must remember that there are a lot of Democrats who don’t join in this Unity thing but are doing this to keep the peace. Don’t you trust Hillary anymore? However, the Democrats seem to be going off a cliff for Obama. The die is cast and the most ridiculous jobs seem to be given to those who supported Hillary most strongly. I am glad I have left that lunatic party and I look forward to the Democrats tossing out the likes of Dean and Pelosi and just being the lovable losers they always were.
A BETTER NAME FOR THE HOUNDS IS ”
DonkeyShitHeads” THEY JUST DON’T GET IT
WHY is Rendell doing this?
What prompted him to be “pro-active” here?
Any ideas?
Obama threatened Rendell before the primary. Obama called him and said: I hope you don’t do anything here –meaning helping HRC– that would make it harder for me to win PA in November”.
Rendell himself reported this and was pretty ticketed about it.
So where is Rendell coming from with this idiotic Hound thing?
I am trying to understand what does Rendell think is doing here? and Why “he” ?
Could it be he’ll be VP ?
Anyone?
on cable yesterday he claimed that anyone who knew him knows that he has to be #1 ~ so, no, he doesn’t want to be #2 . . . VP.
. . . ‘cordin’ ta him.
Looks to me like an Obamatron play sheet. I don’t think Ed Rendell would have come up with this on his own dime. Has to be an Obama push. Make it look like it was Rendell’s idea but it is actually the Obama campaign strategy. I can see him towing the party line but not actually forming a counter-group called HOUND lol. Woof!
PUMA
Nodeal
I think you are right; this Hound thing sounds so pubescent and silly that must have come from
the Obamatron.
It is so NOT Rendell…
What a bunch of morons….
Andy — Your right — its so not Ed Rendell. I think these are torture assignments to make those who supported Hillary look like assholes.
to be honest i think this hound bull is about as dumb an idea as i have herd in awhile. talk about bombing!
off with the hound. under the bus with you along with the possum seal.
They should start a band… Barky and the Hounds.
Great post Pagan.
I think I’m smelling a bit of blackmail mixed in with the kool-aid. That has to be the only explaination, that makes sense, as to why these seemingly sensible people like Gov. Rendell are acting like complete cult followers. Anyone, with a lick of commonsense, knows that everyone has skeletons in their closet. So, either they jump on the Obama bus or bye bye career.
JUST SAY NO DEAL
PUMA
NOOBAMA
Could be VP, but more likely the Comrade told him if he didn’t shape up, there would be a well-funded primary awaiting him during his re-election bid. But if he’s a good boy, there will be many contributors for his re-election and the Comrade will give him much publicity.
Or maybe the bribe was just right.
Or maybe some opposition research revealed something he would rather not see go public.
They have a number of ways of helping people to See The Light.
True very true.
With the various strong arm tactics we’ve heard about the delegates. Who knows which one finally got him?
And Ed did come out yesterday with a comment that he had drank the kool-aid.
Maybe that was his subtle way of saying it.
I just want to know if the obligatory insult all these unity pleas seem to have, is the proof needed that they indeed swallowed?
Good question? Why are the Dems doing any of the stuff they’re doing this time? It makes no sense to me.
Makes no sense to me either….
Uppity above says maybe there is some dirt on Rendell: but with all the dirt that there is about Obama is hard to imagine this as leverage. Money is probably closer. BHO plays hard ball dirty politics and has a big (automatic) machine gun at his disposal: Daley and the Chicago Boys.
andy — Ed Rendell is a multi millionaire. I don’t think its money–my guess is that they would run someone against him in his next primary. This is what I heard was done to Hillary.
Don’t you know for rich people, there is never enough money. more, more, more.
Bad press is good press. Ed Rendell is drawing attention to PUMA. No article can be writtem about HOUND without PUMA, so…
If it backfires, like he knows it will…
Good point yesterday. Some PUMA press at his expense.
I thought about that, too. It should be fun to watch this.
Hound? I’m still cracking up. He has a sense of humor, for sure.
Hound — if you don’t vote for Obama we bite your ass.
that’s a good one, s. hall
I heard him say on fox yesterday that he drank the kool-aid I thought it was funny, I posted it here yesterday. I also heard on one of the news programs that he was offered a job by BOBO, something like head of dept of transportation or something like that and Ed was very interested in it.
Andy — Whatever Rendell is doing — we know he can’t stand Obama. Is Hillary suddenly an Obama fan — now that she has to travel with him? These Democrats are being forced to support Obama in every way possible. In Hillary’s case she was told if she didn’t go around with Obama that she would have a primary challenge for her Senate seat. One has to wonder why Obama is such a totalitarian. Sounds like he is afraid of the PUMA’s and has to have his Hounds to counter them on TV shows. Obama becomes more repulsive to me daily.
Perhaps poor Ed was surrounded by BO’s Black Panther Friends…out of sight of the camera lens!
I personally beleive because Rendell came across as the most ardent Politico of Hillary’s that he is getting alot of crap from BHO. Remember the threats to SD’s and down ticket people as well from BHO campaign. And as you mentioned the threatening call from BHO before the PA.Primary. BHO put Rendell on notice .
Now Ed has to crawl back into the good graces if he ever wants anything he might need for the State of PA. He is doing what he must do and somehow I’ve heard him time and time again giving his full support to Hillary .
Now he must do what he must do for his State and his own political career. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Hound came straight from the Obama campaign and he was told to do this.
elizabeth — I bet Ed Rendell gets down on his knees and prays every night that McCain wins.
I think Elizabeth, you hit the nail on the head.
Everyone is being blackmailed one way or another. I’m sure Rendell’s been threatened with both a Primary challenge and lack of funding for PA should BO get elected. And they probably sweetened the pot with a Cabinet postion offer.
But more and more I have a sense of forboding. That BO’s election is already a done deal. The machines have already been programmeed, the dead people registered, volunteers in place to stuff the ballot booxes, EVERYTHING!
Add to that all the disaffected voters on both sides Democrats and Republicans, Third Party candidates, and the blackout of real news coverage via the msm.
There’s a reason BO is pandering to the right so openly. He must KNOW he has nothing to lose.
If that is true, why are they turning over every rock. All the talk about Christian Right Wing conservatives and giving felons the vote and maybe the idea of Hillary campaigning with him will turn out not to be such a good idea. There wasn’t a lot of enthusiasm at the Unity Rally. Or was that just my imagination?
Looking for anything making sense in this election will drive you nuts. Gov. Rendell was attacked for his comment on the demographics in Pa. also. He was on some talk shows after and he looked scared to death he would be branded racist the rest of his life. At least he knows PUMA and the word is spreading all over. Everyone has fallen in line except Evan Bayh and Pres. Clinton. How are they planning to get Bill on the same stage with BO? Whatever, it hasn’t worked yet.
What a ridiculous patronizing diatribe! Who wrote this, his GRANDKID? Ed, I really really hope this is spam.
PUMA
I do not bear animosity toward Ed Rendell for this effort. He was an important and visible supporter for HRC. He made an extra difference in PA and PA was very important to the HRC cause. I do not plan to support Obama and will work actively against him but I am not going to trash other Democrats who decide to get on the unity pony. Each of us has to think this through and decide. We do not have to be ugly about it.
“Ugly”, no. We don’t need to be childish. But I’m strongly in support of voicing our discontent.
Being pressured to vote for another under-qualified is entirely unacceptable.
Ditto for me. I hated that over at Huffpo. Every single person who endorsed Hillary was trashed!
Ed is just a politician doing what they do to work on behalf of the party. I think it’s almost funny. HOUND? LOL*
Good grief, it’s a fun kind of exchange to me.
But NO DEAL!
They have not yet discussed a single issue with any credibility. The purpose is nothing more than “shut up, please.”
BTW….this is apropros here.
http://clintondems.com/HRCCongress.htm
nice idea, but in need of some editing.
e.g., Napolitano is Gov of AZ, not CA
I only checked the first few . . .
I’ll let them know. Thanks!
i have to wonder if rendell knows how this will be taken and used the term hound knowing how much fun would be made of it.
stodgie — I think he Rendell knows how dumb this is. He has quite a sense of humor and Obama has none. What is the best way of getting out of doing a stupid job –do it badly and they never ask you again.
What I’m really getting tired of is this Party before country baloney. Do these people honestly think Barack Obama should be President?
I don’t get it either. It’s obvious this guy cannot and should not be Potus.
I think they are underestimating who is going to manipulate BHO. I think many at the DNC are deluding themselves thinking they will be able to “father” BHO at the WH. But BHO has other big fat cats behind him that are not part of the DNC nor will care much about the Congress people or the DNC platform.
Something pretty dirty is coming…
I agree. Rendell is a good guy. He stayed loyal to Hillary to the end.
The only way to elect Hillary in 2012, is to elect McCain in ‘08.
That’s exactly it - Rendell was chastising and trashing PUMAs despite what he says at the end and WE are the ones who do not deserve his treatment.
We PUMAs have a right and a duty, quite frankly, as Americans to vote for whom we choose and whom we believe is best suited and best equipped to lead this country.
The message that PUMAS send back to ED RENDELL is that there is more to politics than PARTY UNITY and that’s keeping America out of the hands of corrupt, passive aggressive narcisists whose only mission is to obtain POWER for himself. Every time in history that that type of person has stepped into a position of power it has resulted in a world-wide DISASTER for everyone.
ED RENDELL disrespected all PUMAs who actually, should be praised, for they are thinking of the greater good…the SAFETY of our nation as a whole.
I agree with this. They are career politicans. They are Democrats. They are not starting a Third Party.
What do you expect from them?
I OWN MY CHOICE!
They have the right to own theirs.
I knew from the beginning that the road I intended to travel was a solitary one.
We will probably empower more people if we make them understand this.
We are not all going to agree on EVERYTHING.
It’s better for people to stand firm in their individual commitment not to support Obama.
Ed, you can’t run with the wolves when you’re peeing like a puppy!
He’s lost it. Doesn’t make even a good dog catcher with those writing skills and I use the term loosely.
Rendell is doing what he has to do. I don’t expect anything else from any Dem in elected office. Whatever they may think privately, whatever they might do in the voting booth, in public, they are going to sing the praises of the unity train.
Let them. Whatever they tell themselves, however they spin it, the truth is that there is a hard core of Hillary supporters who recognize the danger an Obama presidency represents and who are just not going to vote for him.
My thoughts exactly.
Why does he have to? No balls? People like him need to make a stand. I’m sure if they somehow grabbed his job from him, he’d make out fine. How can he let them bully and blackmail him? Take a stand Ed!
Naughty, naughty boys and girls. More scoldings. And if we’ll only just be good and join up, everything will work out fine, especially if we let the Daddy-o’sin the DNC handle it all. I’m tone deaf to this sort of exhortation, ditto from Nancy Pelosi, ditto from those women senators, ditto from…ad nauseam. Nothing like being patronized, told how to behave, think, believe.
Wow, another male telling me not to be angry for being completely fucked over. How original!
Sorry Eddie. No Deal.
Exactly!
sorry,Randell, NOBAMA.
Ed’s just being the good soldier. I can almost bet he’s well aware that Obamalamadingdong hasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell but he’s just making sure no one can say he dogged him.
What will be telling is when the obombster comes up short here in PA. Slick Eddie is very influencial in the Keystone state, but I think even he’s convinced the state’s going red.
I personally won’t be too hard on him. He was one of Hillary’s most vocal and vociferous supporters throughout the primaries, calling it as he saw it. I would even venture a guess if Dean and the Bambino do not get Hillary off the ballot in Denver and there is a secret ballot for Superdelegates, Ed’s vote will be for the BEST and MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.
We better hope Rendell isn’t able to convince voters in PA that Obama is worthy of the presidency. I’m sorry but until McCain wins the GE I’m not going to assume that people can’t be convinced to vote for Obama.
Rendell will NEVER convince this Pa. voter. I don’t know of anyone who supports Obama. My small town is dominated by Democrats. I have not heard one person say they will vote Obama. They all say without even thinking about it, that they will vote McCain. They are to afraid of Obama. They will vote for the safe choice. And Eddie better be nice to the voters who will not support Obama, the PUMA members. I sure hope, for his sake, that he doesn’t tell us to be MUTE ever again. Because we will not forget next time he is up for re-election.
Good for you!
pasmalltowngirl — Not all the McCain Democrats are coming from PUMA — today a man my husband hardly knows collared him at work and asked how he felt about Obama. My husband said — I can’t stand him and the man was so relieved. He talked about how he could not vote for Obama under any circumstances. My husband asked him if he heard of PUMA and he said no.
Millions of people all over the country are coming to the conclusion that this country is too important to be left in the hands of this amateur. Obama is in big trouble and so is the Democratic Party. Maybe the party will think twice the next time they decide to steal the nomination.
s. hall,
This is why I said upthread that this is a solitary decision and everyone has to OWN their choice.
There’s no point in ragging Rendell or any other Dem.
PS
I still would like to hear about your source with regard to a tape of Obama putting down AAs.
Why would he do such a thing? Those are the same people who called him racist. This parade of Hillary supporters going on talk shows beating a drum for Obama is almost comical. All the while saying don’t worry, Dems will come home, Obama is out there insulting us again. I truly believe the DNC knows they are in trouble, but they can’t fix the general like they did they primaris. You know what, they look like the pictures of hostages reading a prepared statements.
I still say that, if given the choice, my cat would vote libertarian. Dogs, being pack animals, would vote socialist.
I like Ed Rendell - he’s been a good governor, but I’m not feeling the Unity (TM). He and other career Democrats can endorse Obama until the pony drops dead - they have to, else their party clout is on the line. As a mere registered Democrat, I can flip off and turn down any member of the party who doesn’t live up to my standards. Obama does not live up to my standards and continues to slip lower and lower as time wears on. I wish people would quit HOUNDing me to vote for him.
LOL…I think my dogs would be the libertarians.
And strange enough….the cats would be the socialists.
They’ve been very generously sharing their food with all the abandoned sub-prime cats in the neighborhood.
They even take guard positions so these skinny cats can eat in peace…it’s a trip to watch.
Hey look at the JM news that just broke:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/28/mccains-failed-to-pay-tax_n_109785.html
off topic troll. should know better than linking to
stinky huffpo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=We8P_Ww27hY&feature=related
If you want to hear party unity my ass in a lovely British accent here is Abbi Tanton with Wolf Blitzer.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADwctW9PDHs
I’ll be damn they’re actually giving us some cRED??? SHOCKING! Wolfie!
Yeah well since FOX has picked up a lot of their viewers, they might want to reconsider.
Even Wolf wanted to hear her say it twice…lol
No! Ed Rendell is a devoted Hillary supporter. She, being under the gun, asked him to do something, and he, being devoted to her, did as he was asked.
Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, and she is the next president of the United States. Nobody votes until the end of August, and then, Hillary Clinton is the nominee and sfter that, she is the next president of the United States.
I don’t care what derision ensues: everything will be made clear and it will result in — Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, and Hillary Clinton is the next president of the United States.
So get used to it.
Please let it be so!
I hold no ill will towards Rendell. Do you guys really believe that the DNC thinks the reason we wont vote Obama IS Obama? Can’t you imagine Dean, Pelosi and Brazille saying in a huff ” Ed you and Hillary caused this mess, You damn well better get out there and fix it” ? It’s not that Obama IS UNELECTABLE it’s the fact that Hillary convinced us he is unelectable. It’s not the picture of Obama in the Muslim garb, it’s the fact that Hillary supposedly brought that out. It’s not the fact that all Obama brings to the table is his speech in whatever year it’s the fact that Hillary said it. It’s not the fact that their guy is a loser, it’s the fact that Hillary told us. So they think. They believe the messengers did the damage not Obama.
When blaming HRC no longer works the party Troika or (Junta if you want to include Brazile) will turn on one another.
It’s also the necessary first step in laying Obama’s defeat in their (Hillary,Rendell, and others)laps. No blame is complete without the see what you’ve done phase.
Dear Ed: F*ck Off!
DEAR ED,
YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE OBAMA CAMP SINCE BEFORE PUERTO RICO.
ED, SHUT THE HELL UP.
I’ll send Ed some flea spray.
I like Rendell, he’s one of my favorite pols, but Hounds sniff, eat and roll around in dogshit. Nuff said.
All these men think the little women will just forget and forgive the DNC for what they did to
Hillary and the American people?
I