Bill Ayers would be so proud
By PaganPower on June 30, 2008 at 5:30 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Code Pink, Cults, Democratic Party, John McCain, Politico
The so far left that they forgot what is right wing of the Democratic party has taken a new tact. They have decided that they don’t really have a problem with swiftboating after all. Just as long as the shoe is on the other foot. And Republicans are the ones wearing it. Starting this week they are coming out in droves to paint John McCain, a decorated war hero, as a traitor and a war criminal. And gosh wouldn’t you know it, some people even posted their drivel on Barack Obama’s website.
Here’s a screenshot of one of my favorites. Change you can believe in type stuff if you ask me. Strictly new politics. No doubt about it.
And just in case you couldn’t quite make out the poster here is an enlarged view for your viewing pleasure.
You gotta figure that Obama friend and confident Bill Ayers is having wet dreams over all of this. It’s everything he has “hoped” for since he quit bombing government buildings. He is probably pulling out new American flags to stomp on as you read this.
But placing this crap on Obama’s website was just a start. A trial run you might say. The way out there and completely inappropriately titled blog Americablog took deception to a whole new level.
Some on left target McCain’s war record
“A lot of people don’t know… that McCain made a propaganda video for the enemy while he was in captivity,” wrote Americablog’s John Aravosis. “Putting that bit of disloyalty aside, what exactly is McCain’s military experience that prepares him for being commander in chief?”
“Getting shot down, tortured, and then doing propaganda for the enemy is not command experience,” Aravosis wrote in the blog post, entitled “Honestly, besides being tortured, what did McCain do to excel in the military?”
I seriously wonder if Mr. Aravosis has ever been tortured. And I wonder if he knows the limits as to what a person will put up with until they crack. He apparently lives in some fantasy world where he believes that people like Jack Bauer actually exist. Maybe Superman is real in Mr. Avarosis’s distorted world but for the rest of us that live in a little place called reality we know with certainty that people have limits despite what the movies tell us.
John McCain’s campaign was understandably shaken by what was said about him. After all, he came to John Kerry’s defense when people from his own party attacked his patriotism.
“The American people know that John McCain’s record of service and sacrifice is not a matter of debate. He has written about and discussed his service as a POW extensively—often in excruciating and painful detail,” said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers. “The American people will judge harshly anyone who demeans or attacks that service.”
In fact McCain has never claimed that he did not crack under torture. He admitted it freely.
“I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine,” he later wrote.
But he later defied his captors by refusing to meet with anti-war delegations from abroad, he wrote, and also refused the most valuable special treatment he was offered: Early release.
“I did not want to go out of order,” he later wrote. He was finally released on March 14, 1973.
But far be it from the fringe left to admit that they are wrong about anything. Their solution to mistakes is to compound them. And what better place to demonstrate how far out they really are but the Huff and Puff Huffington Post.
In a Huffington Post blog, a former editor of Mother Jones magazine, Jeffrey Klein, called—in tones reminiscent of right-wing attacks on Kerry in 2004—on McCain to release elements of his Navy record that the candidate has not made available to the public or the press.
“Some of the unreleased pages in McCain’s Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency,” he wrote. As to why, Klein speculated that “From day one in the Navy, McCain screwed-up again and again, only to be forgiven because his father and grandfather were four-star admirals.”
Not to be outdone Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin chimed in too. Unsatisfied just protesting the current war in Iraq, Benjamin wants to refight a war that has been over for 3 decades.
“I wouldn’t characterize anybody who fought in Vietnam as a war hero,” said Medea Benjamin, a co-founder of the theatrical anti-war group Code Pink. “In 23 bombing sorties, there must have been civilians that were killed and there’s no heroism to that.”
“Anyone who can’t look back and admit how wrong it was to be in Vietnam and be killing civilians deserves to be challenged,” she said, though she stressed that her group is more focused on McCain’s present support for the war in Iraq than on his past.
At least some on the left have a little sense left. Even after all that bad acid. Tom Hayden is one such lone dissenter.
“I know and like McCain,” Tom Hayden, a former California State Senator and prominent anti-war activist, told Politico in an email. “From my own perspective and that of many anti-war activists of that era, the fact that he bombed North Vietnam some 25 times, probably killing civilians, gets blurred with the facts that he suffered through that long prison ordeal, then also went on to promote diplomatic relations between the two countries.”
“It’s like asking a guy that served his jail term here—you’d say he’s done his time so that’s behind him,” Hayden said.
But another supporter of Barack Obama isn’t quite so forgiving. No, you might say she goes a little overboard. But lots of Cultists do that. Please notice the date on her blog. This has been up for nearly a month now. All the while Obama is calling McCain “a genuine American hero” and claiming that he is running a clean campaign. And she uses the same type of line that Jay Rockefeller used toward John McCain. Disgusting words that he had to retract immediately.
“What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground?” he asked. “He doesn’t know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues.”
So this is what we have to look forward to coming from the leftist radicals that support Barack Obama. Barky can claim all the new politics nonsense he wants. And he can pretend like he is running a clean campaign. But where is his leadership when his supporters have clearly crossed over a line that we all decided back in 2004 needed to be drawn? What’s that Barky? Perhaps I need a hearing aid.
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
The Obama-supporting blogs have been swift-boating McCain for some time now. He is far from perfect. But when the Obama supporters make up lies about McCain, it says more about Obama than it does about McCain.
HE IS A PI HE HAS PIG FRIENDS HE HAS A SLUM DISTRICT HE IS ABOVE NOTHING IN HIS DESIRE FOR POWER. THE GIG IS UP. PUMATIZE HIM!
They can’t afford to have the focus on Obama because people might wake up to the fact that there is nothing there but an empty suit.
When will these Obamabots think of the children! Won’t somebody please think of the children!
This will backfire
Heart breaking. Totally heartbreaking to bring up that famous picture of Viet Nam. Obama will stop at nothing. The people of viet nam were saved until America bailed out and left. Anyone who served in Viet Nam was a hero regardless.
Obama disgusts me.
Many helicopters were shot down. War is a fact of life. Shame on you Barack Obama. Using a picture that is nearly 40 years old is unacceptable..Shame on you.
Yes, moreover Phan Thị Kim Phúc publicly forgave Rev. Plummer, a US serviceman who after seeing the photograph, believed that he had helped coordinate the raid with the South Vietnamese air force.
Phúc was used for propaganda by the Vietnamese govt after the war but was allowed to study in Cuba. Instead she defected to Canada and is now a Canadian citizen, with a perfect score on her citizenship test.
She is also a UNESCO goodwill ambassador. She has given a speech at the Vietnamese Memorial on Veteran’s Day. She has received the Order of Ontario for her work to aid child war victims.
In sum: she is far more a patriot than those misappropriating her image.
My most beloved Uncle was drafted into that war. It scarred him for life. He was haunted and changed after he served.
To call this man (who was a gentleman before and after the war),and any who served our country at that time, a criminal because they served our country is the last ans final insult I will take from these idiots.
jeebus, “Vietnam Memorial”
My dad served in the war…he still has stories to tell. Obama supporters know nothing about the reality of war or the Vietnam war itself. Shame on them.
I’m sickened and outraged that they are using the image of this little girl. How cynical and evil these people are. We shouldn’t have been in VN, but to use this child’s suffering in this wasy is beyond the pale.
I certainly hope it does. It was despicable when it was done to Kerry, and it is no less so when done to McCain.
Has Kerry said anything about this?
He’s probably still crying to Teresa about having to face O’Reilly.
She dropped “Kerry” and just goes by “Heinz” now.
For real?
Ha ha ha.
Nice one!
I agree this is going to backfire big time. The way our soldiers were treated in a war they never asked to be in. The killing fields…
and turning on the news every evening to see if your brothers draft number is up on the screen or cousin or neighbor. Leave this war alone.
:-0
Aravosis & KOS = scum suckering PROPaGANISTS and hatemongers!
their MOTHERS should be ashamed to call them Son
I would
You can bet your a** it will. They have opened the door so Republicans can walk through with impunity. How completely stupid they are. Obama isn’t the nominee of the Democratic Party until the vote at the convention, but his supporters have shown over and over again an arrogance and willingness to wallow in the mud. If he isn’t aware of this, his campaign would be doing him a great favor by informing him. If he doesn’t put a stop to this, it will guarantee Republicans will have a reason to be angry enough to go to the polls in November. This is a pattern of his. Let your supporters make the attack, make a tepid apology and the game goes on.
I agree that it will backfire. The McCain camp seems to realize this and are beginning to use it against BO (I call him “Stinky”) because they feel that they are stepping over the line and making themselves look real bad. Wonder if John Kerry will defend John McCain? Don’t hold your breath!
Interestingly, Michelle and his girls call him “Stinky” too.
Obamabots are scumbag leaches who sponge off others then complain about the free service.
damn straight
Every time I think they can’t get any lower with their lies and destructive antics, they manage to do it.
It’s really sad to me that the best Obamabots can do now is try to destroy McCain when discussing this election. They can’t come up with anything good to say about Obama so now they are after McCain. So much for being above “politics as usual.”
I guess a smear is OK as long as it’s against a Republican? What hypocrisy.
What really gets me is that they think this is actually going to help Obama who was last seen scurrying for cover from the controversy.
Obama’s surrogates are free to make any association they like as long as it cannot be directly linked to Obama. That way Obama can pretend to take the high road.
How many times is this guy going to get away with this? Surely, there is at least one honest journalist left in this country who will out Obama for what he is–a wannabe emperor definitely with no clothes.
He may be an emperor with no clothes, but he does have “clean hands.” Send out the surrogates to do their worst, then step up to disavow their remarks and look like Mr. Above-It-All. Slick. Machiavelli could learn a thing or two from this operator.
For someone who claims to have turned the page on the “old politics,” he sure does play the game like an expert. Of course, he did study Corrupt Politics 101 with the very best–or would that be worst?–in Chicago.
When, when, WHEN is the MSM going to wake up?
His surrogates are his henchmen…
And McCain defended Kerry against the Swiftboat ads. Kerry spent about 4 months is the service and called himself a war hero. He also published a photo of those with whom he served saying they all supported his presidential aspirations which was a complete untruth and he was forced to withdraw that picture as only one of those men supported him. John Kerry never released his war records, either.
Yeah.
Not only that, but while they’re screaming about not “trashing” Michelle Obama, they’re busy trashing Cindy McCain.
It’s really despicable.
OB just came out and “reprimanded” Wesley Clark for making some of these talking points. (MSM is reporting) Seems the MSM needs to look at his website as well. McCain camp needs to have MSM checkout his website — major inconsistency on OB part.
The good cop bad cop routine was planned. Have Clark go out into the gutter, then have Obama come out as Mr. Clean. He is anything but. I have lost respect for Clark now! Gross.
Either way. It could backfire as someone said above. Just show OB’s comments against the website ad. This is the backfire. Everything, every bit of it is documented.
I’m with you. You’d think as many times as Obama has used this routine somebody would catch on. And I too used to respect Clark; I really thought he was a man of honor. I guess Clark’s political ambitions trump common decency. Shame on him.
Used to like Wesley Clark too — but no longer. Strange how so many people I once respected have exposed themselves as total asses. I guess BO has that effect on others — makes everyone connected to him stink!
I was just thinking the same thing.
It was just Clark reaching his Level of Imcompetence.
The only thing wrong with what Clark said is that his criticism remarks about McCain could also be said about Obama. Clark praised McCains service and said he had been a hero to him and many others. The Republicans would be smarter to go after this stuff on Obama’s website.
I cannot imagine just how nasty this campaign will be. Obviously the Obama people are willing to be just as nasty and unfair as the Republicans always are so we are now at their level. How’s that for progress?
There has been no greater endorsement for McCain than that which has come from his former jailor at the Hanoi Hilton.
could you bring me up to speed on that please?
‘Hanoi Hilton’ jailer says he’d vote for McCain
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_re_as/vietnam_mccain_s_jailer_8
these obama people are true thugs who hate our country. they are extremely out of touch, and they are very reckless.
I am horrified but not at all surprised by this crap. That’s the way these dirtbags work - take something totally ridiculous, something no one with a brain would believe like say, I don’t know maybe that Bill Clinton is a racist, and you repeat it over and over and over again. Eventually some moron goes for it, like it’s fact. That’s why I really don’t care if that Larry Sinclair story has any truth to it - what’s good for the goose…what an ass.
These are sick people. John is a great American.
Amen.
Disgusting! I still believe McCain is a patriotic man who doesn’t need to give a speech on his Naval history or his patriotism.
People who’ve never feared for their lives castigate John McCain and rejoice that BO is “anti-war.” We know BO is an empty suit, he’s anti-experience, anti-thinking, anti-integrity.
I wonder how anti-war people would be if someone threatened their lives, the lives of their children, or for BO’s lot, even their Ipods…
BO is attempting to seduce conservatives with his new defense of McCain. He’s moving to the center because his handlers are measuring the demographics.
Victor Hanson is a conservative writer for the conservative NRO. NONETHELESS, he nails it. As Tomasky brags, Obama will say anything to get elected.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjBhOTJlZDBkMjlhOTQ3MjU3NTJiOTg4NTY2NjFjMmM
Spot on article, a “must read”. Thanks.
Equal Pay For Women: Barack Obama Says One Thing and Does Another….Again
The average pay for the 33 men on Obama’s staff (who earned more than $23,000, the lowest annual salary paid for non-intern employees) was $59,207. The average pay for the 31 women on Obama’s staff who earned more than $23,000 per year was $48,729.91. (The average pay for all 36 male employees on Obama’s staff was $55,962; and the average pay for all 31 female employees was $48,729. The report indicated that Obama had only one paid intern during the period, who was a male.)
McCain, an Arizona senator, employed a total of 69 people during the reporting period ending in the fall of 2007, but 23 of them were interns. Of his non-intern employees, 30 were women and 16 were men. After excluding interns, the average pay for the 30 women on McCain’s staff was $59,104.51. The 16 non-intern males in McCain’s office, by comparison, were paid an average of $56,628.83.
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/06/equal-pay-for-women-barack-obama-says.html
I have a piece on this in queue.
FYI … Hillary paid higher ….
Well she promised she would, a bit like her promise for supporting the Democrat Primary rules. She still owes many small businesses and her staffers money and most of those need it more than her - but God Bless Rich Americans.
The Clintons always pay their bills. Nice of you to imply otherwise.
Only if you pay more dues to a couple who have $107 million in the bank. Her campaign is still in $20 million of debt. Small businesses and her staffers are the ones owed the money by Clinton - unfortunately not the likes of Penn.
If PUMA was anything more than a sick RNC front her campaign debt would be finished. I guess clearing it will be up to Obama just as clearing the national debt will be up to him.
She already has the money to pay off her debt. She put away 40 million for the GE that goes to that after the convention, if she doesn’t get the nomination. People here have contributed to her debt, though.
And Penn’s debt still remains unsettled, and he says he is not worried about being repaid. And the small businesses who are waiting for their payment are no strangers to campaigns and happy for the business. And the Clintons made their combined $107 million over the past decade. It isn’t a crime, last I heard.
Wasn’t it wonderful how BO and MO stood on the backs of the poorest people in his senate district to be come “Rich Americans”…
Ain’t America f*cking great?
Think it is time move to Monatana.
With a
Pair of heavy-duty
Zircon-encrusted tweezers in my hand
Every other wrangler would say
I was mighty grand
By myself I wouldn’t
Have no boss,
But I’d be raisin’ my lonely
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Hey, thanks for reminding me to donate some money to help Hillary pay down her debt.
Yeah me too..wouldn’t want the school venues to go without. I mean all the tax dollars they get from our property taxes and they need to charge thousands for a couple hours to use their gym. Guess I’ll go donate now.
Barack clearly demonstrating his “do as I say, not as I do” approach? Shocking.
WOW — thanks for that piece of information.
Obama is a male chauvinist pig — and there are numbers to back up that statement!
Obama came out this afternoon and rejectd Wesley
Clark’s comments on Sunday. Obama now says he
believes McCain has passed the Commander in Chief test. John Marshall is questioning Obama’s decision to say this-
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/202163.php
Sometimes you really wonder what is going on in Obama’s head….don’t you - and then they said McCain
has mental problems?
ROFL. As if the guy who gets an “F” should be the judge.
This is his campaign MO. He cuts the rival in lttle pieces and when the damage is done he MAY make a comment acting like he didn’t mean to. That’s after all the damage is done..like the Hillary RFK statement etc…None of it is reality based.
Yes, and moreover there is a price to pay. Playing the sexism and racism cards no doubt helped Obama in the nomination battle, but at the cost of alienating a lot of voters he’ll need in November.
ABC reported that the campaign had “given Clark talking points, but questioning McCain’s patriotism was not among them.” If that’s BS Clark will call them on it … you can take that to the bank. However. The words came out of Clark’s mouth with no shiv that I could see.
Clark NEVER questioned McCain’s patriotism and they know it. He praised his service and said he was a hero. This is probably just their way of sounding like they had nothing to do with what he said when it backfired.
This is LOL funny!
Clark played them for the fools that they are. Go Clark!
Hillary is 44
This is obviously their strategy for any opponent: destroy the character and experience of the adversary to hide the fact that Obama has neither.
Absolutely ridiculous. Obama have more nerve than intelligence. Which isn’t saying much.
McCain will be able to sleep tonight now that he knows he has Obama’s seal of approval. I’ve met some arrogant people in my time, but I have to admit Obama tops the list by miles. God help us if Barack Obama gets control of our military!
The military will bump him off.
and then say ooops, I didn’t mean it.
That’s what crack does to you….just talk to any crackhead..they sound just like Obama. Say one thing one day, complete opposite the next. That’s why he needs a telepromter, so someone else can tell him something logical to say. Too bad, he has more than one and they aren’t all on the same page.
Sometimes they even change position in the middle of a conversation.
Oh Good! They will manage to piss off the rest of the “bitter hicks”. Nice job, morons! Keep up the good work!
And of course, now they door is open for the swiftboaters go get REALLY down and dirty. I look forward to it.
The Audacity of Arrogance. Those whom the gods would destroy must first be made drunk with power. And Barack Obama is VERY drunk right now.
Do you get the feeling they’re trying to lose?
ABC showed an ad this evening. It had the head guy right out there in front. He’s not hiding his ugly mug this time out. I still find them all horrible human beings. I don’t care who they are pointing their poisonous lies at. But in this case, Obama is asking for a slap upside that arrogant tater of his and he — as they say in Texas — is fixin’ to get it, I reckon.
Uppity
GF you finally said something about BHO that is truly SCARY!!! (for me)
“Drunk with power” is so REAL and BHO has it. THAT is scary indeed. And so are his minions btw, remember, much like how W and his inner cabal was in the beginning.
nope they gotta GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Someone should remind Obama of the Shelley poem, “Ozymandias”.
Off topic:
Just got an email about OB and Clinton discussing her being on the first ballot at convention. That added this fact:
“Historically, what has happened at the Democratic Conventions is: In the last 10 Democratic Conventions (1968-2004) one was uncontested (Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-nomination). Of the remaining nine - even though the ultimate nominee in every case had a clear majority of delegates well before the Convention - in SEVEN of the nine, the names of the other contenders were placed in nomination and voted on at the Convention. The only times this didn’t happen were in 2000 and 2004 (although in 2004 Rep. Kucinich still received some votes on the roll call).”
Talk it up!
I’m at the point now where I believe they will get their way, because they CAN. Laws, rules, precedent, fairness, whatever, do not matter to these power hungry radicals. In November they will meet their Karma.
The email was actually implying that the OB camp would piss many (18 million) off by trying to get her off the first ballot. They are in a pickle. Might have to let her have her historic “rightful” spot or they will loose votes. Good news for us!
He already pissed off 18 million people and more. Don’t forget the ones who’s votes were thrown in the trash.
They probably had a rules burning ceremony when they decided Obama was their Chosen One.
A link to the source of the information would be quite helpful.
I traveled for Hillary and still get a few emails from staff and other volunteers. This one was a staff.
Oops. Ditto what campingoutindenver wrote.
And the division helped them lose - which is what you want to happen. So what lessons need to be learnt? Do not give the divisive bigots a chance to tear down the party.
Where you been? I want the DNC asshats to LOOSE and loose BIG.
And screw you for suggesting if someone disagrees with BO and the DNC they are “divisive bigots”. You are the problem.
He must be the designated troll for this article.
Just another clown who doesn’t have a vote telling people how to cast theirs. Kind of like Obamas supposed anti-war speech.
Friends don’t let friends troll alone. Wait. What friends?
I guess UK for dems is better than the usual Obama troll. Gaza for Dems.
Which ” divisive bigots ” are you referring to? The bigots who have supported, funded and voted for Democratic candidates since the Civil Rights vote in 1964?
Definition of Cult:
fad: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; “he always follows the latest fads”; “it was all the rage that season”
Definition of Movement:
A more or less organized effort by many people to achieve some goal, especially a social or artistic goal; as, the women’s liberation movement.
We are a movement, you are a cult. We will bring real change to the Democratic Party. You bring nothing by chaos.
Divisive bigots??
Let me tell you something limey, if the first woman to EVER run a serious campaign for the Presidency of the US is NOT given a roll-call vote, I for one will gladly see the party that denies her and MILLIONS of women that historic moment go down in flames.
Shouldn’t you be more concerned with Brown and Cameron?
This is another thing you can chalk up to MSM.
In 1980 and every other Pres. election year previously, both Dem. & Rep. National Conferences were pretty much covered gavel to gavel.
As Americans dumbed down, viewership dropped off. The MSM in their quest for great ratings to sell millions of dollars in commercials cut down coverage (kind of like the Olympics aren’t covered 24/7 any longer either).
Seems like the DNC took advantage of the non-coverage. What Americans don’t see, they don’t know, and they don’t discuss.
So the DNC was able to set a new precedent in 2000 and 2004 for not including all names on the first ballot — something that would not have been sanctioned by voters prior to that.
Now they don’t have to put Hillary on the roll call and they have perfect historical justification for that decision.
The MSM should be required to cover these conventions from gavel to gavel, no matter how boring some parts are. I mean, who would have wanted to miss John Chancellor being carried off the convention floor?
Wake up America — you can only make a difference if you know what is going on. Fight back for your right to be informed without prejudicial opinion!
This is the most outrageous piece of hateful propaganda against Senator McCain that makes Obama and his cronies borderline criminal. It makes me want to vote for McCain because he has to endure such remarks from people who have not set one foot in combat. Obama is and most of his associates are slime- plain and simple. Chicago mob style politics is nothing to be proud of. “Yes we Can” alright. We can be evil, biased, racist, sexist, slanderous, corrupt, criminal- whatever it takes to win. Americans hopefully will wake up by November.
PS I hope this whole matter of the birth certificate gets contested in court. This is an issues which should be able to be settled once and for all.
McCain is a hero - Obama is less than pond scum!!!!!!!!!!
On a previous thread someone said hero versus zero … I still think that sums these two up very well.
Beebop,
Yesterday you told me that you couldn’t be as forgiving to those who now have turned and support Obama.
Today I can tell you that I’m not supportive either.
After what Clark said about McCain.
Clark is now a big fat Zero to me.
All who are switching in light of the evidence against Obama are dead to me.
Thanks for calling me out on that!
This has been a hell of a year for Democrats, hasn’t it? We have found new voices like Mayor Nutter and lost old voices like Clark. The give and take are good … sad, but good.
I agree. No human being deserves to be tortured. He made mistakes. He never claimed to be a hero or super human. By this measure every GI in Iraq deserves torture. I had two nephews over there. They both came home safe. I would like to ask these people if they think they should have been tortured.
I remember McCain standing up for John Kerry, his fellow vet, even when it wasn’t popular or his party’s position.
These people, and I use the word lightly, make me sick.
You know, I saw his biography on “Headliners and Legends” right after Hillary’s. Hillary’s made me love her even more but McCain’s wasn’t as attractive. He was portrayed as a party boy that unlike Bush, and given his heritage, was expected to show up for duty. He was shot down on a mission and served his time as a POW. He left his wife soon after returning.
He’s not a superman, he may not have been crazy brave, he definitely has his faults, but he has served this country his entire adult life. If you sully his name, I think you sully this country.
McCain was doing his job.
NON military people do not understand this — and perhaps never will.
Hillary Clinton understands the military culture.
The Obama people who are doing this are just trash — and Obama is such a control freak that he has to be involved.
We military brats were drafted into the military at birth — we grew up in the military culture. My father retired from the Navy when I was in college.
McCain is also a military brat — something that we have in common.
Evidently the Ayers branch of the democrat party believes that to be in the military and to do your job means that you are a war criminal???
This crap coming from the Obama gang is proof that Obama is UNFIT to be Commander in Chief of the US military.
When you are born into the military culture — it is always part of who you are. Disrespect for McCain’s service to this country is unforgivable.
Of course the military is not perfect — that is besides the point — the military also play politics. The point is that individuals who do their jobs and follow orders of superior officers are following a long tradition.
I also have respect for the Vietnam Vets who worked to end the war because they knew that this was a war that the US could never win, and should never have been involved in.
My father did his job, went on an air craft carrier off of Vietnam — and returned to the States and retired. He said no son of his should fight the war of lying officers and politicians. My dad was a hard core Republican.
Vietnam was a politician’s war — including the military politicians like Gen. Westmoreland.
McCain was a grunt in the Vietnam war — he followed orders — in the military tradition. He was following the orders of the CIVILIAN Politicians.
I hope that the Obamabot creeps pay a high price for their attempted swiftboating of McCain. You Obamabots are nothing but garbage — trash.
Obama is a loser — and hopefully will join Rezko — who will Obama roll over on in order to get a lighter sentence?
PUMA
>>> McCain was doing his job. NON military people do not understand this — and perhaps never will.
Got that one right. For many of us, it was The Draft or Prison. Given the alternative, I chose to suspend my belief system and exchange energies and small cylinders of non-ferrous metal with other men of my age but a different race.
In restrospect, I would much rather have emigrated to Canada.
Still, being lectured about Vietnam by Hope-a-Dope worshippers whose mothers were still playing with dolls while Mac was in the Hilton (and a few other places) and many fo the rest of us were notching calendars revolts me.
May they have the character-building experience of hearing small arms rounds passing close aboard…
Pissants.
IT MAKES ME SICK HOW THEY HAVE A LITTLE NAKED GIRL IN THAT AD. THEY ARE USING LITTLE GIRLS NOW. YOU WOULD THINK THAT OBAMA WOULD OBJECT TO THAT AD SINCE HE HAS LITTLE GIRLS HIMSELF, BUT I GUESS ANYTHING GOES
Yet another parallel with the Bushies: NONE of them–W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and most of the neo-cons–every served in combat. Obama is becoming more and more like W every day.
What about the dual citizenship? Can he throw Kenya under the bus?
It makes me wonder if this is an attempt to deflect attention from Obama’s “document” problem. If it is, it is pretty damn weak.
This kind of ad will also get the conservative base out for McCain. McCain should send Obama a gift.
A fruit basket would be appropriate.
An ad with a bow around it would be nice. Show OB’s public comments about “reprimanding” Clark for making these talking points with a split page of website ad.
You seem to know your way around this site. Any chance you can post a link to these blogs so we can go directly there and see them? I can’t find the way to the “community blogs” on Obama’s site. Thanks.
Figure it out Ted.
OK, never mind. I found it. Much to my surprise, neither of the blogs exist.
Tip to all: when someone provides a screenshot to web content instead of a link, wonder why that might be.
That’s why they take screenshots. When something controversial comes up on Obama’s site, it quickly disappears.
Hope - I think Ted knows that. Surely, he’s not implying that someone who opposes Obama would make up these visuals. If he is, that’s interesting given the Obama birth certificate that Kos conveniently came up with.
Hope Floats; the best recent example was the article of Steve Diamonds on education, posted at NQ.
Ted; you need to be concerned if you hear the sound of BO’s Internet Langoliers.
Two points. One, the article fails to mentino they have been removed - it gives the impression they are still up and Obama tacitlly supports them. The fact that screen shots were supplied in lieu of links tells us the author knew they were gone. Even though he wrote this above “Please notice the date on her blog. This has been up for nearly a month now.” That sure seems to imply it is still up. At least I read it tat way…
Two. The fact that they were quickly removed says what about the Obama campaign? They saw them, did not approve of them, and removed them. Seems like a reasonable approach to me.
figure it out Ted.
A not-so-public man: the private character of John McCain
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1214492529435&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
When I was on AD there were two academy types–the ring knockers (they had to be sure you knew they graduated from a military academy) and those who just did their jobs without fanfare. It’s obvious that McCain fits in the second category.
I just happen to read this today.
The City Journal
Obamas Boy of Summer
A whos who of 1968 radicals supports the candidate
In 1968, the Left served as unwitting allies of Republicans, costing the Democrats the White House by rioting at their convention and withholding votes from Hubert Humphrey. In 2008, it is their vocal support that may cost Barack Obama the presidency.
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0629df.html
MissE I believe the reference to the boys of summer is probably a reference to I See The Boys Of Summer by Dylan Thomas. There is a verse so appropriate to he DNC and Obama:
We are the dark deniers, let us summon
Death from a summer woman.
A muscling life from lovers in their cramp
From the fair dead who flush the sea
The bright eyed worm of Davy’s lamp,
And from the planted womb, a man of straw.
It’s a strange poem like many of his and you can read what you want into it, but man of straw is definitely Obama.
I really think Team Obama and their supporters have lost their minds if they think attacking McCain like this is going to work. Who are these people and what happened to our Democratic Party.
Funny thing is, I remember the exact same attacks against McCain back in 2000. But they were started by Rove. Hmmmmm. Part of the whisper campaign. Now Obamabits using the same talking points. Interesting.
David Rove…Karl Axelrod…
So true.
That’s how Shithead Hussein lucked out this year. He has no original thoughts, but previous shitheads have blazed a trail for him. Wait for Obama to start a rumor about McCain’s black baby. He already took the low road against the Clintons.
Wasn’t it McCain who brought up that OB hasn’t been to Iraq in years, and now OB is going. And Hillary that said she would denounce Wright way back in Feb, the 3 months later OB did it. Jesum he needs a freakin babysitter, not POTUS.
I shudder at the thought of who would babysit him if he were somehow elected POTUS.
Nancy would.
Well fine then. This gives McCain and every 527 out there permission to let it rip on Obambi. What goes around comes around hypocrite. Get ready for the onslaught–I hope they hold NOTHING back!
Me, too!
It completely predictable that they would do this based on how they attacked Hillary.
The MO is always the same.
A group of people say something outrageous and nagative about an Obama opponent that shocks people and makes them wonder if it could be true.
Then the media reports on it.
Then Obama comes out and mildly denounces it and claims that he had nothing to do with the accusations and in fact the same charges were unfairly leveled at him by his opponent in the past.
I dont think it really has worked at all-Obama is where he is because he gamed the caucus states. All the rest is just the meaningless rantings of a very inadequate man.
It’s exactly how they called Bill Clinton a racist.
It’s exactly how they implied Hillary Clinton was hoping Obama would be assassinated like JFK.
It’s their MO.
But they’ve gone too far this time. Americans will be disgusted by this attack on McCain.
Good point. Where did you see that? It’s called “Tithing”. (That would be the argument anyway.)
Except that “tithing” implies 10% of income, and the Obamas were more usually giving 1-3% to charity, according to the tax returns seen so far, which means that he isn’t really giving that much to a church which some find offensive. Now there’s a spin.
So how does a person cast a vote in November to make absolutely sure that Barack Obama does not become POTUS?
Not voting for him is a start. Having millions join you is the next step. And then pray.
If the dems don’t wise up and nominate Hillary at the convention, the best way to make sure BO is not elected POTUS is to vote for John McCain. If anyone stays home, votes 3rd party or writes in a name, it’s the same as voting for BO.
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER
McCain ‘08 (no matter who the dem VP is)
I agree!
I can’t believe I am saying this..but The democratic party makes me sick!
Obama will never win in November…think about it….
They need to change the name: The Un-Democratic Party.
but this is bizarro backwards barry world!!!
Where up is down and good is bad and bitter is sweet! Right? Wright?
My sister calls it the Party Formerly Known as Democratic.
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I saw that and alerted PUMA Pac, but they are not the owners. I wonder if Will Bower is the owner of that content. How do we save it from deletion?
I am the one who edited it to try to save it from deletion. All you have to do is get enough sources to back up each claim. I tried to make the language more neutral. They are really picky at Wikipedia. MoveOn has a giant page though. Name change also my move. More appropriate.
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I swear to god, Obama is a republican plant.
I swear to GOD it has crossed MY MIND!
I’ve been saying that Rove has two candidates he can use for GOP purposes. All BO does is flip-flop his way to the right and maybe then the GOP doesn’t need McCain. They were lukewarm on him anyway. They just need to hold BO together a while longer (and shake Hillary’s grasp off of the nominating process).
crossed my mind too.
Wait to the American People see Obama without his hand on his heart on a 527 Ad
That will do it for alot people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o
This is so disgusting. How long…how many years did it take for Vietnam veterans to receive the respect they deserved? Too long. Do the ignorant people who created this ad even realize that they’re not just hurting John McCain? They’re hurting a whole generation of men, who fought in Vietnam. The majority of them drafted into that conflict, I might add.
Exactly. How many more groups is he going to insult?
It will backfire. The majority of people in this country are patriotic middle Americans–not these disassociated radical leftists. It’s a good thing–it will cost him the election.
This definitely won’t play well in the South.
I live near a naval air station. There are many retired military here. I don’t think they will take kindly to McCain being trashed.
A moment of truth: I protested the Vietnam War. And I had friends that served. I was brought up in the culture that put flowers in the barrels of rifles. And I am to this day anti-war in general. But I recognize the sacrifice made by John McCain and many others just like him. He did what he was asked to do by his country and he paid a horrible price. I won’t sit by and let people defame him. Hate the war, not the warrior.
You aren’t that old..how could you have protested the viet nam war P? You weren’t even born yet. Just sayin’
I was there and I remember. I was eighteen and living in Boulder going to school when the Kent State Massacre occurred. There was an unplanned, spontaneous demonstration the following day in an area called “The Hill”. So many people were arrested there was no room left in the jail and we were herded into the football field. I’m sorry now for the way soldiers were treated when they returned. There was a draft then and it was either serve or go to Canada. There were draft card burning demonstrations, but McCain came from a military background and it would have dishonored him. Beside his time served in the Hanoi Hilton and the evidence of broken bones and teeth, there is the evidence of his record in the Senate where he sponsored, wrote or cosponsored more legislation, working across the isle as they say, than Obama will ever own. They got away with their smears against Hillary because the DNC and media helped, but God help them now.
Exactly!!
There is nothing wrong with being in the military and doing as ordered — doing ones’ job. Simply BEING in the military or being a Veteran does NOT make a person a war criminal.
There is also nothing wrong or unpatriotic with being against wars of CHOICE — such as the Vietnam war (started because of a lie) and the Iraq war (started because of lies).
Lucinda, so so so very true. The Vets now have benefitted greatly from what the Nam Vets went through. The support our troups movement must include our vets from former wars, especially Nam. I recently sewed all my husbands patches on his old field jacket, and he put his very impressive ribbon rack on it, and he wore it in public this year for the first time. Some local vets questioned his ribbon rack. He pulled out his dd214 from his jacket pocket, and they shut up. For the first time in his life, someone thanked him for his service to our country. He is an independent, voted for Clinton twice. Obama needs to release his dd214 before he, or any of his surogates say a thing about John McCain. So Disgusting. The upside is that the lack of the veteran vote is likely what lost Kerry his election. Now we have them against Obama, with us. And don’t forget all the other groups that got thrown under the bus.
They love attacking McCain’s first marriage, too. Of course, a man held as a POW coming home with PTSD and finding his wife disfigured from a car accident is too human and personal to get a pass from Obama supporters on the grounds of taste and human decency. McCain and his wife split amicably and remain friends. He adopted two sons from his wife’s previous marriage. McCain has raised seven children. He has raised a Bangladeshi girl with severe health problems adopted from Mother Theresa’s orphanage. His own sons have served in the military, including in Iraq. Trying to attack McCain’s character, war record and family life are guaranteed to backfire, and especially when Obama has to win Dems with long memories.
Since Obama does not have a legitimate platform to run on, this is all they have. It shows how small-minded and mean-spirited these people are. I wish Hillary would stay as far away from them as she could get, and I definitely hope Bill ignores him.
McCain never said he should be President because he was a war hero. That is where the story falls apart for Obama. McCain never talks about his service or the service of his son in Iraq
Great article. I feel like writing a letter of apology to Senator McCain. Obama needs his ass kicked. All the crap we know about this dirtbag needs to come out. I hope the republicans bring out everything and then some. I will enjoy every second of it. It is disgusting. Obama and his supporters are the worst kind of people.
Omessiah is a savage.
You gotta be just a bit amused at these children of the 60’s (and their kids, now!) ranting about a “war criminal”…AGAIN! Does anyone remember what they were saying about NIXON back in the campaign of ‘71-’72???
I do. Same pure bile and hatred. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.
We may not see the landslide we did in 1972…but look for a HUGE backlash come November.
Obama is bought and paid for by these anti-American lunatics, both big and small, and he will go down with them to defeat…no matter how he trys and “disowns” them.
Well, someone linked the article above, but it just proves my point:
Obama’s Boys of Summer
A Who’s Who of 1968 radicals supports the candidate.
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0629df.html
you mean grandkids and great grandkids
Republican plant…
Trying to lose now..
thought provoking comments.
Thanks for the post Patsy
Comment by Hillary’s supporters…..
June 30th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Americans will be safe with trustworthy, experienced J. McCain. We must support
this honorable war hero or the terrorist lover, inexperienced Barack Hussein may
win in November. Americans can afford that, not now not ever!
http://www.blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/30/hound-help-obama-undermine-our-nations-democracy/#comment-31112
If we Hillary supporters have any selfrespect, selfpride and valued principals we must
walk away from SEXIST, corrupt, ANTIAMERICAN Democrat party that stole the People’s
choice nomine EXPERIENCED Hillary Clinton and gave it to a questionable, poor judgement,
inexperienced Barack Hussein, they SELECTED him, they made a mockery of Hillary
and her supporters too.
Now we know how Republicans are born.
These new demRats are despicable in there attacks on a true American Hero. I guess what’s lost on these leftist maggots is that if we were never in Vietnam then Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia would all today be under communist rule.
These Anti-American Marxist’s need to be brought down and fast!
Everyday more McCain!!!
I think we need to remember four years ago and who used this technique against our candidate. What disturbs me is that we are once again doing what is least like us. Abandoning the moral high ground is not what we were looking for, was it? That isn’t my idea of making history. Personally ….
And what is John Kerry going to say about this? Is he going to sit back and allow Obama supporters to demean Vietnam vets as criminals? C’mon John–where are you?
If we had a real media, they would be tracking down Kerry for an on-air comment.
He’s a HOUND. He sure looks like one. Kerry is a Rendell hound. He won’t make a peep. He let them steal the election right out from under his nose the way Hillary is.
Does anybody think that if McCain gets to be POTUS he would put Hillary in a top level post? Something tells me he would. Secretary of State maybe? I would hate to see her work in an Obama admin but think she would be a real asset to the McCain admin. He would listen to her because he respects her as she does him. Another potential reason to vote for McCain.
I don’t know about Hillary, but based on what I’ve seen in the Citizens for McCain group, I definitely believe you’ll see some Democrats in his administration. Joe Liebermann is probably a shoe-in for a spot.
Keep hoping. It won’t happen. She wouldn’t do it if the REPs offered her the nomination.
Definitely. They are very good friends, they respect each other, and he has promised to put many women in top government posts.
He wanted to but the repubs brass were screaming bloody hell.
I am so dismayed by this scum bag and his slime tactics. They have no shame. Shame on BO. Shame, shame. Sad thing, they don’t give a d***.
You’d think the morons would have learned not to try this after what happened to Steinem.
Well, here’s a site with some interesting slogans,
in case the Democratic party wishes to continue the
leftward drift…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QMhSFybfHw&feature=related
Obama in his patriotic speech claimed he is against burning the flag,but he sure as hell voted against passing a law to prevent people from burning it. Ayers standing on the Flag is probably the reason Obama voted against Flag Desecration….
Flag Desecration Constitutional Amendment…http://www.votesmart.org/speech_detail.php?sc_id=42301&keyword=&phrase=&contain=
Has Obama ever been asked what he thinks of Ayers stomping on the flag?
this will backfire because it is an attack on every Vietnam veteran in this country who was caught up in the madness and were reviled and spit upon when they came back to this country. this is the wound we have been trying to heal and now the great uniter is going to rip it open again…just like race relations. setting our country back 40 years. I am a Hillary supporter who will not ever vote for Obama and will vote for McCain if O gets the nomination. I may not agree with all he believes in, but I do respect him. How awful.
I personally agree with you but it didn’t do much for John Kerry. Was Kerry less sympathetic or are they missing the impact of someone profoundly disabled during his captivity?
Kerry was not imprisoned for 5 years, and did not refuse release before his fellow soldiers. This is about McCain’s proven strength and character. Also, his father and grandfather were Admirals. I am starting to read his biography to find out more.
Kerry was only in Nam for 4 months. He got to come home because he had 3 purple hearts, one of which was refused by his superior, but because the superior was rotated out, Kerry was able to apply for it himself. I wonder if Kerry has ever walked thru a vet hospital, to see what some have suffered for just one purple heart. That is not the real reason that many vets dislike Kerry. When he got home, and was still ‘in uniform’, he testified(I believe it was a senate committee) that Nam soldiers were rapists and baby killers. Then he went to France and met with the enemy while the war was still going on. Kerry has had his dd214 modified 3 times. Once when Carter gave amnesty. Kerry has never released this document. If he has, let me know. I know I am sounding like a one issue person, but it is shocking that most people don’t know anything about this. Why can’t the Dems vet thier own candidates? Just leave that to the republicans.
They’d be fine with me…jmac & Cindy mac
Now veterans are feeling what we women feel. An attack on one is an attack on all.
I wonder what the Vietnamese community in America has to say about this?
That Obama really attracts the freaks. The Barack Obama freak show.
the swift boating of mccain is such hypocracy when obama has come out in rejection of general clark’s comments. and the general’s comments are not even as bad as the stuff that is found on his community blogs.
he needs to clean up his community blogs. they are full of filth.
I will never believe that Obama was offended by Clark’s comments. This is how he operates; get somebody else to do the dirty work and then fake disappointment in the comments or actions. He is a fraud!
Barack Hussein Obama, come on DNC, you can’t be serious. It’s beyond absurd!
A Clown for POTUS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbL01AuYaJk
LOOKS LIKE –OBAMA,S KIDS @DAILYKOS-DAILYHATE ARE GROWING UP….WELL STARTING TO …
WTF is up with the Obama campaign?
by greenlabormike
Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:54:33 PM PDT
This isn’t meant to be a “bash Obama” post or a purity troll post or anything like that. It’s simply my look back at what has been coming out of the Obama campaign since becoming the de facto Democratic nominee on June 3rd.
In a nutshell, my observations of the Obama campaing since June 3rd has been a sudden and almost complete conversion into a “traditional” Democratic campaign, a la Kerry 2004. On both substantive issues (FISA) and “process” (Clark’s comments on McCain’s foreign policy experience), it’s as if the Obama campaign advisers names changed from Axelrod and Plouffe to Shrum and Penn. Seriously.
Is the Obama Campaign’s change in strategy since June 3rd working?
Yes! The Obama campaign is kicking ass and taking names.
10% 23 votes
Yes. I don’t like it, but I think it’s the right call in order to win in November
23% 55 votes
No! It’s depressing the democratic base, and reinforcing Republican/Village narratives.
53% 126 votes
No, and thank goodness. Obama is an over-rated hack and now everyone can see it.
6% 14 votes
What change? The Obama campaign strategy hasn’t changed at all.
9% 22 votes
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/30/1759/34210/827/544295
John Aravosis and Medea Benjamin need to spend 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton and then report back. Until then, they should shut up, immediately. Same for Wes Clark, a man whom I lost a lot of respect for in the last few days.
This is the difference between protesting soldiers and protesting those who gave the orders. You don’t go after men who put their lives on the line with the “Baby Killer” crap because you weren’t there, you don’t know and most of them were doing their best to carry out orders during wars that they didn’t sign up for in the first place.
Many liberals from the 60’s regret the harassment that they dished out to returned service members from Vietnam.
And then you have people like Bill Ayers: privileged punks who could afford to spit on America, bomb government buildings and basically be an all-around spoiled sack of dung poster boy for the furthest fringe of the left who knew he would have family connections set him up down the line and rescue him like some Chappaquiddick Ted.
Most people don’t have those safety nets, and thus can’t afford to be so insanely radical as this fringe which is the BACKBONE of Obama’s Posse.
Guess what? If McCain was so privileged he should have had the option to avoid serving during the war, right? He could have avoided being shot down, nearly blown up on an aircraft carrier, spending 5 years of his life at the Hanoi Hilton and seeing the breakdown of his first marriage.
But he didn’t choose that way out, much as he didn’t accept an early release as a POW that was offered him. The man willingly chose to remain a POW when he could have done a Bill Effing Ayers/Chappaquiddick Ted move and skated on out of doing more hard time.
That, friends, is the stuff of heroes and those with resolve and guts.
That is why I will gladly vote for him if he faces BaJoke. Michelle POS Obama is whining about not making enough money and paying back loans for two Ivy League degrees when she and Bwak made $4.2 million last year.
Barack Obama, and his whole damn coterie of effete, entitlement-mentality losers, is a pampered, affirmative-action pretender. It fits that the well-heeled Pelosi, Kerry and many Kennedys back him. They are peas in a pod.
The Clintons came from humble roots, worked their way up and were never embraced by the Washington elitists. Ever. They loathed the Clintons’ lack of fealty to the fake Washington wannabe regal culture and self-congratulatory tradition.
John McCain is not a perfect man. But he gave his blood, sweat and tears for this country and left some portion of himself in Hanoi after being shot down during a mission for an aircraft carrier which was not his and which he volunteered to fly sorties for. If that doesn’t define his character and demonstrate his selflessness, I don’t know what would.
He could have come back from Hanoi broken and defeated. Instead he built himself up and is in the position he is in now. He could have given up, politically, after the dirty tricks played on him in 2000. But he didn’t. He was counted out early in this primary season but he hung tough and here he is.
John McCain has demonstrated, repeatedly, the qualities that used to make America great. Barack Obama is a symptom of why America is in free fall in its standing in the world.
Everything I need to know about these two men I already know. Each has shown his true colors on numerous occasions. There is a reason why Senator Clinon is friends with John McCain and why she does not have such a relationship with Barack Obama.
Wes Clark got his medal from falling out of a jeep. He should quit sucking up so bad for VP, if that’s what qualifies him for the job.
He has fallen down the bottomless pit that threatens to envelope any who shill for the snake that is BaJoke Ofraudma.
You claim to be a Democrat, but play the Homophobic card. Obama is “effette”.
You claim Obama is why America is going free fall in the opinions of the World? Have you given consideration to the opinions of the World about torture in Abu Gharib or Guantemolo Bay?
Those that do not have access to those safety nets tend to be the poorest from the poorest states of America. Generally Afican Americans. The hatred spewed here shows why African Americans did not trust Democrats before and if your disgraceful campaign undermines the first chance of electing an African American as President then you should hold your head in shame.
Guantemolo Bay?
Where is that?
The same landmass as one of BaJoke’s non-precondition meeting partners.
I know that GITMO or Guantanamo bay is in Cuba. I was just curious where Guantemolo bay is? I thought it was in one of the other 8 states.
You mean it’s not in one of the 57 states?
Well maybe. I have never been to those states. By the way nice job on the post below. I got ten bucks (how many pounds is that)that UK for Dems does not respond. Let’s hope that he or she is done for the day or night whatever it is there.
Thanks, Disgusted.
Like virtually all bullies, when you stand up to the Obamabots they rapidly turn tail.
All hat, no cattle.
Its in the UK.
More precisely, it’s in the UK’s ass.
Shut up, punk. This isn’t your election and you don’t know anything about this country. You and the rest of the internationalists need to respect America’s sovereignty and butt out of our election.
‘You claim to be a Democrat, but play the Homophobic card. Obama is “effette”’
Do you know what the definition of ‘effete’ is, Gov’ner?
Here it is:
‘Marked by self-indulgence, triviality, or decadence’
You don’t get any more self-indulgent than Barack Hussein Obama. When he tossed his 20-year spiritual adviser under the bus he said he did so because Wright didn’t show HIM enough concern. Not because he said hate speech against whites or dissed the victims of 9/11 just 5 days after their death, but because Wright didn’t show HIM enough respect.
Self-indulgent.
Know what decadence looks like?
A line of coke.
It is very easy for those on a pedestal to become effete — as Obama and many of his supporters are and have become — because they have the money and/or supplicants which allow them to become so. When one loses his incentive, self-indulgence often follows.
‘You claim Obama is why America is going free fall in the opinions of the World? Have you given consideration to the opinions of the World about torture in Abu Gharib or Guantemolo Bay?’
No, no, no.
You want to see the disrespect of America?
Go look at the exchange rate for the pound to the dollar.
THAT’S disrespect.
Because of our propping-up those who don’t deserve it like Obama, America is getting crushed in the global economy. As you should know being a member of the Commonwealth, when you lose your clout or supposed empire, no one takes you seriously. That’s the position the Brits are in now and with the foisting up of clowns like Obama who legacied their way into Harvard Law School, that is where America is heading as well, to the also-ran status of the UK.
‘Those that do not have access to those safety nets tend to be the poorest from the poorest states of America. Generally Afican Americans. The hatred spewed here shows why African Americans did not trust Democrats before and if your disgraceful campaign undermines the first chance of electing an African American as President then you should hold your head in shame.’
You’re a clown, a joke.
You talk like Obama does about bitter people: from an anthropologist’s perspective and not from the point of view who has lived any of what he is describing.
In fact, you sound like this clown that comes to my videos all the time and has even tried to duplicate all my video tags in the hopes of drafting off of the views they get.
Here’s the problem with many liberal ideas, and particularly those of a true bleeding liberal like Obama:
They SOUND so good but in practice they WORK really bad. It’s the exact kind of thing that Charles Gibson nailed Ofraudma on during the Philly debate. That is, do you understand what the impact of the pie in the sky economic plans you’re throwing about will be?
You have no idea what’s in the best interest of the poor in this country. It’s like me telling you how to renovate Big Ben. You don’t know Jack, and I’m not talking about your flag, either.
Sit down, close your mouth and leave the American election to the Americans, chap. It’s whiny, ignorant voices like your own that will ensure your vicarious (cuz you’re UK behind doesn’t live here) Messiah’s defeat.
The more people like yourself pop off, the easier it is for people like me.
If you want to keep helping, be my guest.
Oh, and I have never voted for one GOP candidate over all the elections I have voted in, asshat. You don’t know sh*t and you sure as hell don’t know me. Take your ’supposed Democrat’ crap and get your sorry butt back across the pond to that diminished cluster of isles you call home.
What happened to national electoral sovereignty, you know? No wonder we whipped your guys’ butts during the Revolution.
what kind of torture? AA’s don’t trust DEMS? why are they dems themselves then? Why did they vote for one?
How OLD are you? 16? Oh okay..now go get another tatoo and leave the adults alone Okay?
“Those that do not have access to those safety nets tend to be the poorest from the poorest states of America. Generally Afican Americans.”
Actually the poorest of the poor are generally Native Americans.
But do tell, what has Obama done for the poor? All I can remember is those people living without heat in his district while he partied it up with Rezko.
Paul V
That about says it all. All humans have their frailties. It is how we deal with these conditions we find ourselves in that make the difference.
Thanks for that.
Thanks, Teakwood.
Enough of this crap. McCain is a hero, tried and true. And Obama is friends with Bill Effing Ayers.
That’s all you need to know.
Vile. Despicable. I can barely control my temper. I sure home Sen. McCain does. The Obamabots are trying to provoke him into an election-losing outburst.
oh its spiro agnew again, have you heard from HR Haldeman?
LOOKS LIKE –OBAMA,S KIDS @DAILYKOS-DAILYHATE ARE GROWING UP….WELL STARTING TO …
Barack Obama: Moron………….
by Shade Tail
Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:58:23 PM PDT
By now, everybody on Kos has heard about this. Yesterday, Sunday June 29th, General Wesley Clark went to bat for Obama on “Face the Nation”, and the GOP and their enablers immediately went utterly insane about it. Here are some of CarpetBagger’s articles about it:
General Clark’s appearance
A little bit of McCainity
Sen. Obama’s response to all of this? Probably the worst possible response of all: He’s backing away from it.
Shade Tail’s diary :: ::
Even if Obama had snapped and suddenly engaged in mass-murder, I could not possibly be more disappointed in him than I am right now (shocked, yes; disappointed, no). I supported him throughout the primary after Senator Chris Dodd dropped out, because I liked the campaign Obama was running. He staked out his positions, stuck to his guns, and never looked down his nose at anyone or tried to pander to them. He promised change, and while I didn’t agree with all of his politics and knew full well that he isn’t as liberal as I am, he still managed to win my respect the hard way.
And then he flip-flopped on his FISA promise.
Are you disappointed in Obama right now?
You bet, he shouldn’t be wilting under the criticism about Clark.
38% 91 votes
Yeah, that FISA thing really bums me.
19% 45 votes
Yup, that “bitter and clinging to god and guns” comment was a killer.
0% 1 votes
Of course I am! Clinton should have won!
4% 9 votes
Sure I am. I’ll fill you in on why down in the comments…
2% 4 votes
Nah, I was never going to vote for that black Muslim guy anyway.
3% 7 votes
No, I like his positions on everything.
23% 55 votes
Heathen! How dare you impugn the devine Obama?!
9% 22 votes
Uh, disappointed in who, again? I’ve been living under this lovely rock for a while now…
2% 5 votes
Are you disappointed in Obama right now?
“He staked out his positions, stuck to his guns, and never looked down his nose at anyone or tried to pander to them.”
WHAT CAMPAIGN WAS HE WATCHING?!! We have actual photos of him “looking down his nose” at everyone! And he is THE quintessential Pander Bear.
Vile. Despicable. I can barely control my temper. I sure hope Sen. McCain does. The Obamabots are trying to provoke him into making an election-losing outburst.
Its spiro agnew AGAIN! Spoken to RM Nixon lately?
I have heard version’s of General Clark’s comments made by Obama supporters here. I think it is part of the Obama campaign talking point. General Clark’s remark helped draw a lot of coverage for Obama’s planned “patriotism” speech. It also made it possible for Obama to equate legitimate questions about his long-time alignment with Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger, Bill Ayers, Recko, Reverend Meeks, and other radical leftists to criticism of McCain’s military service. He is trying to make it as wrong to criticize him for his radical associations as it is to question McCain’s military service. Unfortunately for Obama, this tactic will only work with some of the MSM.
I don’t remember General Clark questioning McCain’s qualifications when McCain was supporting our troops in Kosovo.
Obama quoted Mark Twain today in his speech. Here is another Mark Twain quote
“Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn’t. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let me label you as they may“
To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor,
No doubt about it, Mimi that is what BO is. He did decide against his convictions, be it Allah or Jesus, to profit from the misery of the poor.
Did anyone else notice? The blogger on the Obama website at the top of the post? Her name is Miss Bunny “Hussein”. She’s one of the bots who changed her name in solidarity with the selected one!
Course it looks like she also changed her name in solidarity with Bugs Bunny!
Cute.
selected one!
Now I hear the choir singing Handel…
imustprotest That was “inspiring”!
Ooo… I hope they go full force with this. This will backfire bigtime! I think I’ll write and tell Obama was a great idea it is.
Shameful. Do thy seriously think their helping their candidate?
PaganPower
BO; go 20 and split left…
here it comes….down the grid.
Thump… awwww. BO dropped the ball. Again!
If Bo wishes to add to the things “we” can’t talk about it won’t be this one.
Don’t question my Patriotism BO says?
What joke! He thinks getting on a stage with McPeek and saying “cool” is patriotic?
But he lets his deranged minions fly like winged monkeys from his butt and condem Senator McCain? Mind you I am not in agreement with many of McCains views but fraggin any Vet for political reasons is FUBAR. Clark knew it when he said it but BO does not.
It is not like I wanted to vote for McCain, but I will be, given the BO’s lack of experience, judgement and credibility combined with his immoral ways.
If you want this page goggle has this as retrieved on Jun 22, 2008 23:45:56 GMT
http://tinyurl.com/4v44hw
It was scrubbed from the site. You can google it and get a link but from the link to the obama site it comes up as error message.
Fire up the Enola Gay, load the A-bomb, and head for hell. Apparantly all who write this crap have never studied history or they simply studied with the Obama’s. Given his claim that one of his great forebearers freed the concentration camp survivors from a boat in the Pacific, how can anyone be surprised at this nonsense. According to the thought processes of Jeffery Klein and Medea Benjamin, every soldier who fought in WWI and WWII should be held up as war criminals, and especially those that dropped the bombs on Germany, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And by all means, let’s hold trials in absentia for the northeners who created and wreaked hell on the south when they freed the slaves. What a travesty that was. I’m surprised Mr. Klein and Ms. Benjamin aren’t demanding reparations from the Civil War soldiers.
Obama is SICK! That’s really demented to do something like that.
Obama is mentally ill. Where are his medical records?
John McCain is a hero not because he was taken prisoner and tortured, but because he rejected early release as the son of a highly-placed officer. Barky and his minions can whine all they want and try to make McCain into a war criminal, but who isn’t going to see the hypocrisy coming from someone whose preacher and friend are people who call for the damnation of the USA and stomp on the Stars and Stripes?! If the MSM told the truth, they’d say that this guy is toast! I wonder how long it’s going to take them to acknowledge the McCain landslide if BO is the Dem nominee! And can you just hear their faux amazement and the excuses they will offer!
I’m still surprised that Clark would play the bad cop role in this continued multi-act farce. I guess Clark really wants to be VP.
Mr Aravosis has been watching a bit to much John McLain. This is John McCain and real life.
The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round …
Now that Wes Clark has been thrown under the bus (and it was obvious he was set up) how many does that make?
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
2 preachers that were Obama’s mentors for 20 years
Obama’s church
Women
Muslims
Jews
gun owners
18 million voters
etc. etc. etc.
All but about 2 million got up and continue to follow the bus, with tread marks on their backs.
The rest of us got up, brushed off the tread marks, and went in the opposite direction. We don’t need a bus because we won’t throw anyone under it.
It’s probably already been said, but Obama only throws them under the bus if he is called on it. No one has called him on the other media presenting the anti-McCain lies.
To Obama, everyone is expendable. One problem with that - at some point he will run out of people to throw under the bus.
This is disgusting. Obama and his surrogates are the worst excuses for humankind. Don’t they have any shame at all?
We should send Obama back to his father’s homeland - I hear they have plenty of war criminals there. What’s his cousin/half-brothers doing over there?
The so far left that they forgot what is right wing of the Democratic party has taken a new tact.
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The word you want is “tack”, not tact.
In the nautical context, “tack” means to adjust the sails, which results in a change of direction or a course alteration. That’s clearly what’s meant here.
Must be an Obama word police.
ps
Did I mention that people like Obama and Ayers are cowards?
Did you forget the Clinton pardons?
The two Clinton pardoned served many years of jail time. Ayers and Dohrn did not serve a single day in jail.
Do your homework before sprouting Obama disinformation.
I’m sorry. I disagree with John McCain on many issues. But McCain has not thrown his military service in the face of the American public the way John Kerry did. But if Obama’s folks do this schzoid attack [Obama who says he won't attack patriotism but then sends out his Obamatrons or lackeys to do just that] it will backfire and backfire, bigtime.
John McCain may have a lot of flaws, many policies that I don’t agree with but attacking a former POW, calling him a war criminal, calls into question every man and woman who has ever served, bled and sacrificed for this country. This is no small thing.
Anyone who can spit or wipe their feet on the sacrifice of the US military should take a good look at themselves in the mirror. Then you’ll see what a true traitor looks like.
We may disagree with the US position on many things, but our warriors are doing what they were pledged to do–to carry out the orders of the US executive. They do this with honor. They do this with distinction, sometimes even with personal dissent. But they do what they’re called upon to do and they do it with valor.
I don’t like the Iraq War; I don’t know anyone who does. I didn’t like the Vietnam War, the war of my youth. But if citizens learned anything, a scintilla of wisdom during the 60s and 70s, it was this: you cannot blame the rank and file soldier for the war on the ground. It’s their lives on the line, their families making the sacrifice and in the worst case scenario, their friends and loved ones being buried day after day.
So, beware when you attempt to tarnish a man’s war record. And beware, ten times over when you and your Annoited One has no war record of their own. It will not stand the smell test. It will only make your candidate look as small, untested, and unprepared as he truly is.
PUMApac.org
PeggySue,
Excellent post.
John McCain may have a lot of flaws, many policies that I don’t agree with but attacking a former POW, calling him a war criminal, calls into question every man and woman who has ever served, bled and sacrificed for this country. This is no small
Yes, McCain may have alot of flaws, and as a Democrat, I don’t agree with many of his policies, but one thing no one can deny is his patriotism and service to this country. And when scumbags like the bloggers above, attempt to dredge up dirt on this honorable man’s sacrifice… well, good luck to them in November is all I can say. The voters won’t put up with this crap. Kerry was a totally different story. But McCain is a hero.
Hillary or McCain ‘08!
Peggy
You are so right!
After the remarks by Gen Clark on Sunday about John McCain, I am embarassed to have ever been a Democrat. Kool-Aid must flow like water in BO land. I hope this type attack bites BO in th ass.
Larry,
I know you are a Democrat but I appreciate your willingness to criticize people from your own party.
Larry is an independent…get a grip troll..He never was a dem..stupid troll
This really Pi..es ME OFF!!! I will give away my age, but I remember the day McCain walked down the steps of that plane when he was released. Those Dirty Bast..ds will definitely get a backlash from this. Was it not just Obama saying how bad the troops coming back from Viet Nam were treated………I HOPE OBAMA ROTS IN HELL!!!!!!!!!
That would make a great you tube. McCain exiting the plane after his return from viet nam and Obama not saluting the flag and his friends stomping on the flag..
Words saying..who do you want as your commander in chief?
Song in the background playing “and the land of the free, and the home of the brave”
Try this: Read the troll comments only under a thread and see if you can figure out what the topic of the thread is. I think you will find most of the time you will think it was “where’s the whitey video” or Larry’s hair or something totally unrelated to the thread. From the looks of the troll comments on this Ayers thread you would think the topic was anything but Ayers.
Obama comes out and tires to distance his self from the statements made by Clark pretending to be this big lover of country and men that give military service, yet he has this kind of nonsense on his web blogs.
Obama is really a hypocrite, and of course will play to the crowd to get votes, this man is really despicable.
Shorter Oborg: McCain deserved it.
I hope Hillary, Obama and McCain all do a town hall in my area. I’ll ask Hillary, Now who is more suited to be commander in chief now? Obama or McCain..
God love ya Hillary but this is ridiculous.
Go back to the Senate. Wait for the convention and pray hard.
Obama and his surrogates are the SCUM of the earth. I’m so mad right now, I can’t even speak! They are lower than a snakes belly!
One word comes to mind about the people who call McCain a War Criminal - now I never write or speak like this but here it goes - ASSHOLES!
I don’t think Obama can count on Vietnam Vets come November after this stunt.
Gee, I wonder who else he will offend.
Guess what idiots. Anyone can post crap on the Obama blogs. Has nothing to do with Obama’s positions toward McCain. You guys are pathetic.
Oh really? Then why does barackobama.com delete my posts that question or critcize Obama?
Obama’s site is a bastion for free speech only when the speech does Obama’s bidding.
If Obamas site can delete my posts, they can delete this BS too.
Obama is A #1 scum.
Obama’s site is a bastion for free speech only when the speech does Obama’s bidding.
Kinda like No Quarter in reverse.
So why do we still let you in here?
BTW Miss Bunny and friends can not deal with reality - McCain is a War Hero. NO - NO - No —– they can not deal with it. I would like to tell Miss Bunny where she should go!
McCain is a HERO.
Obama is a scumbucket COWARD.
Wesley Clark just had his Al Haig moment. When O’boy loses in Nov, they will note this moment as a big turning point in the campaign.
Please excuse the way I am going to phrase this, but this is insane!
These NO GOOD, COWARDLY Mother Fu****!
Have they EVER been in Combat? Has anyone of these armchair Comando’s ever had to fire at someone in anger? ( And I do not me through an X-Box game! )
I am no fan of John Mccain, but I LOVE my country and I absolutely Love every Man and Woman that wears that uniform!
Shame on those BASTARDS that can easily attack someone from the comfort of their homes without ever setting foot in a combat zone. May they all rot in hell!
This is disgusting beyond words. Today Obama says he will never question anyones patiotism and he has this crap on his website?
Every day that man gives me more reasons to despise him.
Now he brings out the radical fringe that condemns the warrior. WTF.
Obama has been showing us he can’t keep his word for more than a day, but today he showed us he can’t keep his soul.
President Kerry had fewer negatives against him on his worst days than Obama has on his best days. What’s that you say? Kerry lost? Oh, yeah…PUMA!
On the blogs I also see the Obama fans trying to blame the Forrestal fire on McCain. There is great video on the History channel, an errant missile strikes a plane on the deck, and the pilot jumps out of the plane and runs through the fire toward the camera - it’s John McCain! So I’m sure he started the fire, then ran to get in his plane so he could maybe be killed by an errant missile.
These Obama fanatics are evil, sorry, can’t think of another word to adequately describe them - just plain evil.
Oh, these people don’t want to go there - they absolutely don’t want to go there.
It’s one thing to raise questions about candidate’s records, their qualifications, even their spouses.
But these left-wing nut jobs don’t know how deep the water runs, when they start dissing a war hero’s service to our country. It doesn’t matter whether you’re for or against the war, this topic is touchy-touchy to most Americans.
And it is going to backfire - explode - in their faces.
Yep, just let they keep it up, which I suspect they will anyway, because they’re idiots - we will be cheering President McCain, January 09.
Hillary or MCain ‘08!!!
I agree. I think these left wing nutjobs are stepping into a hothouse that is going to explode. I was never in support of the Viet Nam War, and yet I cannot understand their stupidity in attacking John McCain’s obvious heroism. Alot of people are going to be outraged.
What’s that the prosecutor always says in movies? Your honor, the defense opened the door.
This is gonna backfire big time.
Totally disgraceful. John McCain is a hero who endured a lot for the country. And as a Democrat, I am completely against Obama’s Web site doing this.
Then again, he has also hosted anti Israeli and black separatist content.
Obama is a despicable creep. He will reap what he is sewing. Just give it a bit of ime. He’s a true fraud through and through. How can his supporters be so deluded? The evidence to support his white collar criminality is presented to us on a daily basis and somehow this turd is leading in the latest Gallup that I saw today. He is running one of those most diabolical campaigns we’ve ever seen. Funny though that he has no backbone.
Foolish, and cruel of the Obama campaign. This ad hits at the voting block who lived through the Vietnam era, not the young people who are voting now. Those who remember, are the largest block of voters.
The Obama campaign has soiled on itself, in public.
Filth.
Pagan Power - have you sent these screen shots to Lew Dobbs and Fox News? Super Delegates who are veterans, like Senator Webb and Congressman Rangle?
Would THEY allow this to remain on their web site for one minute?
Democratic Party R.I.P.
Weak sauce
Almost any “community” blog is going to have issues. That includes No Quarter. I could post a long vicious pro-Nazi screed on this site or for that matter a long vicious communist screed here. That does not make N.Q. fascist or radical leftist. Since this site has very little in the way of hall-monitoring (by design) it would take a while before the offending post got scrubbed (if it got scrubbed at all)
Unlike you all I’m not going to assume that HRC views and opinions are in any way related to some of the posters on N.Q. HRC is a decent rational human being; unfortunately some here have gone way over the deep end in their hatred of all things Obama. When HRC was a going concern I’m sure that some of the postings on her site were equally appalling. Those posts got scrubbed but as Larry will tell you it is a Sisyphean task trying to scrub all the trolls and lurkers from a blog site.
Frankly N.Q.ites are the last people to be tossing around rocks as they live in the most fragile of glass houses. That you would take offense at someone else’s blog site is laughable and hypocritical. Pot meet kettle.
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