Unity Without Impunity
By PaganPower on July 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM in Barack Obama, Edolphus Towns, Gregory Meeks, Hillary Clinton, Jesse Jackson Jr., John Lewis, Racial self-hatred
Despite all the talk of unity things aren’t all that unified across the country. A new phenomenon is occurring. Politicians that backed Hillary Clinton are now facing challenges by those who want to punish the people that supported her. Even John Lewis who changed his endorsement to Obama under duress is not immune.
A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton
In Georgia, Representative John Lewis, a prominent civil rights leader, is facing primary challenges from two black candidates who have been critical of him for backing Mrs. Clinton for months before shifting to Mr. Obama. To underscore the point, one of the challengers set up his headquarters in the same building that served as Mr. Obama’s office for the primary.
So when Jesse Jackson Jr. threatened to find someone to run against him if he didn’t endorse Obama what he really meant was that he was going to find someone to run against him because he took too long to endorse Obama. Typical thuggish behavior. These folks are into command and control. Big time.
Another New Yorker, Representative Gregory W. Meeks of Queens, faces a primary opponent who has sought to make an issue of Mr. Meeks’s support of the Clinton campaign in a district, New York’s 6th, where Mr. Obama drew nearly 56 percent of the vote.
The man seeking Mr. Meeks’s seat is Ruben Wills, 36, a former chief of staff for State Senator Shirley L. Huntley and an organizer for Mr. Obama in southeast Queens. “I was on board with Obama from Day 1,” Mr. Wills said. “Meeks had to be dragged across the line.”
Some take their thuggery to new heights. Or perhaps lows would be a more correct description. And they are concentrating that hate on one particular Congressman, Edolphus Towns of Brooklyn. They claim that black people supported Hillary because they were ashamed of being black.
To her, the reason black leaders like Mr. Towns stuck with Mrs. Clinton was obvious. “Racial self-hatred,” said Ms. Queen, who is black. “It was as if they were saying: ‘We people of color are not ready yet. We’re not ready to be in the White House.’ Self-hatred does that to you.”
For his part, Towns made his decision to support Hillary based upon normal rational thinking and a little something called loyalty. A moral quality that these Obama thugs care nothing about. They would have to have morals to appreciate it.
“I serve in the Congressional Black Caucus, and he is a member,” he said. “But Hillary Clinton represents New York State, and I’ve worked together with her on many projects.”
So where will this lead? I cannot begin to guess. Because every single day something new surfaces about these thugs and their Chicago style of politics. But one thing is for certain. They will find more creative ways to intimidate people that do not share their views. Because that is just the way they roll.
All I can say is we must stick together and demand what is right. We want a qualified President Elected not Selected!
http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com
This is why the PUMAS stand to Just Say No Deal to Ohblahma is so important. We must not condone the thuggish practices of the Obama campaign. If we vote for him in NOvember, it will be giving a green light to this UNdemocratic behavior.
Oh right - Hillary and Bill would not have done the same, why do you think they wanted to take it to the convention? A young Democrat having their future discussed with the former President?
bottom up versus top down.
why do you even have to ask?
I see a difference between an election challenge and a threat.
I am sorry but frankly folks who couldnt stand by the right choice or didnt have the courage of their convictions after years of brutality like Lewis went through, to allow people to call him Uncle Tom, and ot go on tv to the CBC stopping it dead in it stracks in the beginning, helped let this get to this point. They had to KNOW this was coming, Uhhbama ran a thug campaign, many of his supporters are in large part thugs, see the Troll boyz here, and obviously cannot be trusted to keep their word on anything..
If you would sell your political soul to keep your seat, they know you are for sale and caved under pressure, they only want their bought and paid for people in those seats
the purges have begun
they should flip back to the REAL THING BABY
CLINTON CLASSIC, Hillary…..
This is why we must prevent Obama from being elected. There is a take over going on.
Two at a Time: Saving the Dems and GOP with One Vote
These Obamabots challenging former Hillary supporters are nuts - and racists.
But Obama has made it all about race - so it’s not surprising AAs would focus on race - not the issues.
I suspect much of the race-baiting and ridiculous accusations of racism against the Clintons on Obama blogs were perpetuated by AAs and Trinity members.
I’m not voting for a race-baiter or an Empty Suit!
NObama!
“Clinton Classic”
hehe I remember that!
yea baby!
just say NO to Barry NEW COKE!
And we all know what happened to new Coke!..under the bus of the Cocacola Bottling Company!
Here’s a youtube video of Bill Cosby promoting the NEW Coke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfhFBTL-Xsw
John Lewis? John Lewis??? If this is Obama’s idea of support for a civil right’s leader, count me out. Civil rights my ass. These people are scary. It appears they want a party full of elected officials that are only loyal to Obama. We lived through that with Bush. I don’t care which party does things like this. This is JUST WRONG.
Its based on the age old principals of a Hitler State. You are either with us or we destroy you.
Where is Jesse Jackson Sr. in all of this? Does he support the actions of his son and others like him who seem not to care about the sacrifices people like John Lewis made on their behalf? It seems like they aren’t even bothering to run on serious issues; their only issue is that they supported Obama and the incumbents didn’t “hop to” quick enough.
Animal Farm. Isn’t it time for the purges?
poor Greg Meeks
he was a GREAT supporter and he IS a great congressman to that district
Hill stepped down after RANGEL promised her their seats would be safe, now they go after them anyway??
come on Hill
come on CBC members STOP THE INSANITY!!!
Since when do you eat your own your own young Democrats?
this is change that turns your stomach
That’s what makes me sick. These congressmen have worked their heads off for their constituents, and the thanks they get is a knife in the back from Obamabots drunk with power. If the people in these districts aren’t careful, they will wind up with representatives who don’t give a flying fig about them. I almost want to say it will serve them right, but unfortunately, there are a lot of innocent people who could be the real losers in this mess.
ginaswo,
You hit a bullseye! What brought about this horrific nightmare of a primary was the willingness of so many to sell their souls in order to keep their seat! They sold out democracy.
Now, it’s up to the PUMA coalition to fight to take it back.
I spent time last night writing a letter to the editors of small local newspapers. I want to encourage other people to do this. We have to reach people who are not online or do not realize that TV news is propaganda. I included 10 points about the negatives of Obama and am suggesting in my letter that people visit “No Quarter” and Just Say No deal” online. I know that a few of my neighbors are vets and when I stopped over to chat with them about “McCain as traitor” they became outraged.
So these Congressmen chose to back the candidate who would bring real hope and healing for the black community and are now getting punished for it. That is so retarded on so many levels, especially since Clinton didn’t even get the nomination.
Fuck you Jesse Jackson Jr.
I have no pity for people like Lewis and all those black leaders that left Hillary in the cold when Obama came on the scene, so what ever befalls them now the bought it hook, line and sinker.
Apparently when Obama says jump, you’re only supposed to say, “How high?”
You mean “How low”
HA! That’s right, they’re all doing the OBAMA LIMBO…how low can you go..how low can you go?
John Lewis gets thrown under the bus.
Yeah, I think he’s under my right foot. When you stop sobbing, could you try to move a little to the left, John? Welcome to Obama’s underbelly.
The unconditional support of Obama by so many black people is ultimately self-destructive. After Obama loses, non-blacks are going to remember how so many black folks voted along color lines. And the white folks who are now fueling this divisiveness will have conveniently forgotten their part in this mess.
Black Groupthink = Stuck on Stupid
http://make-it-plain.blogspot.com/
“Racial self-hatred,” said Ms. Queen, who is black. “It was as if they were saying: ‘We people of color are not ready yet. We’re not ready to be in the White House.’ Self-hatred does that to you.”
Since any thinking person can see that this particular candidate is NOT ready to be President, what the bejeezus is this racist wanker talking about?
so, let me get this straight:
primary challenges to someone that didn’t support your candidate = THUGGISH attempt to punish voters
throwing election to a right-wing republican because your candidate didn’t win and screwing over the whole country = OKAY!!!
two wrongs don’t equal a right. From your own argument you imply that both are equally bad, therefore this is a hypocritical statement.
No douche, Obama is a dirtbag, we cannot allow another coke addict back into the White House. Sorry. If my son and husband are held to one standard to serve their country, than Obama must also meet those same standards. Read his book. He’s a dirtbag.
Dear StrawberrybitesBarky,
Because douches can be useful, it is not fair to associate them with steveeboy. ; )
Yours,
(procrustean) Steven
McCain is a moderate Republican, an honorable man, has served his country, loves his country, and isn’t surrounded by anti-American racist, sexist, violent thugs. So yeah, he is, in fact, an awesome alternative to your fascist candidate Barack Hussein Obama. Obama is a danger to America, McCain is a leader. Anyone but Obama! Hillary or McCain ‘08!
Why do you support Obama, Steve?
It’s the DNC that screwed over this country Steveeboy.
I am voting for the person I trust and respect adn whom has experi3ence, what part of this dont you understand?? it has the added bonus of ensuring the DEMS dont ever try to steal a nomination again as a big p;us.
this is nothing like promising to not run compeition for a seat if Hill suspends and they back Uhbama and then turning around and running against them anyway
it PROVES OBAMA DOES NOT HONOR HIS WORD AND NEITHER DOES RANGEL IF HE DOESNT PUT A STOP TO THIS
CALL CHARLIE RANGEL
TELL HIM TO STOP THE CHALLENGES TO LEWIS AND MEEKS, THEY HAVE GONE BACK ON THEIR WORD
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We will unify or else!
Floggings will continue until morale improves!
We have unified, Uppity.
WE’RE PUMAS!
It’s the same everywhere, federal, state, local. I have been saying this for months. Superdelegates who are elected officials were threatened with the thought of a well-financed primary opponent at their re-elections. It’s how these people Roll, please believe me.
Here in Massachusetts some are supporting John Kerry’s opponent, Ed O’Reilly. He’s on the ballot! We’re having fun with this! Bye bye Kerry, bye bye.
Y’all should run the challenger on a platform of CHANGE.
DOWN with the ESTABLISHMENT that that old bird Kerry represents.
He’s the first one I thought of when I heard the music on the PUMA ad.
HA! Kerry should go first. He’s compromised himself into a pretzel and should fade away quietly. Or continue being made to look a fool.
AARP WIND SURFERS UNITE!
(chuckle)
bumbledorf
Yes and before you OBOTS wig out, KERRY said universal healthcare is a nonstarter in the Senate, kerry has to go…..
http://www.edoreilly.com
Yes, intimidation seems to be how Barky’s camp gets things done. I haven’t heard anything from that dear old crank Rev Wright lately–do you suppose they finally got him to shut his trap?
Pagan, thanks for bringing this stuff out. God, I hope McCain wins in a landslide.
I don’t know any other explanation for what has went on.
BO and his thugs are redefining the word scum. Yuck.
Thanks pagan.
“Hillary also put her life on the line, in the south, in the sixties, to register blacks and hispanics to vote.”
really????
where is the proof of this?
Cannot find it in any of her official bios–which all mention she was a REPUBLICAN until she got to Wellesley in later 60s.
I wonder if this claim is as bogus as her claims to have been under sniper fire in bosnia????
The only mention of voter registration that I can find on the internets is her work for McGovern in 1972–and registering voters to support the candidate whose campaign you are working on isn’t the same as working in 60s to register blacks in the south.
I note also that she grew up a republican in CHICAGO, which–as all you dead enders know, is really a cesspool of corruption and a totalitarian horror show not unlike the late USSR.
Sorry your research skills are so bad.
And by the way, what has your candidate ever done, um, for anybody, um, uh, except himself?
How can this Steveeboy obamabot who claims to have read all of Hillarys bios still support his no nothing do nothing Obamafraud after reading, supposedly all of the things Hillary has done throughout her lifetime.
Because he is lying. Its called a “call to authority”….If someone opens an argument with “i have read all this stuff” Or, I am the leading authority on, you can bet they are about to feed you a bunch of crap. Its kinda like the holiday inn express comercials. How do you know all this stuff? “Because I stayed at a holiday inn express.”
Instead of saying he read Hillary’s bio, he should have pointed out specific information in that bio and contrasted it with Obamas and THEN gave a good conclusion based on that information. Instead he chose to be fallicous and call his authority just because he says so.
Why do you support Obama, Steve?
In Texas. It was all over the news before the Texas primary about the time she spent down there registering voters. You should easily be able to do a Google search and… Oh, wait… Google Hillary or McCain and all you get on Google are posts about Obama.
Maybe use another search engine.
gawd you obots are maroons, sigh, try the Ken Starr records ..
This is yet another race card being played. I don’t know why they have to be so indirect with it. They should come out and say, “The brother that represents the black district supported the white cracker, lets vote that traitor out.” That is basically the message that they are using.
WOOOHOOOOOO Obama’s campaign is sliding downhill faster than a 4 year-old on a water slide…….wheeeeeee that’s a quote from Juan Williams last night. Go PUMA, GO hcsfjm, GO JOHN McCAIn, kick Obama’s butt!
Pride Goeth Before the Fall
BOOYAH PUMAS
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle. The dr struke up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to obama and his bid for the presidency. The old rancer said, well ya know obama is a post turtle. not being familiar with the term the doctor asked, what is a “post turtle” the old rancher said, when youre driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, thats a post turtle. The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctors face, so he continued to explain. you know he didnt get up there by himself, he sure as heck doent belong up there, he dosent know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of idiot put him up there in the first place.
whats this about bill clinton getting $$$ from a mears? something in dick morris book about it,, could it be that obama has something on bill? thats why bill is going along with obama? sounds fishy
He’s got nothing on Bill. Bill isn’t kissing Obama’s ass, by the way. He said through a spokesperson he’d support him, but thank God, hasn’t lifted a finger to actually help. And he has said privately that Obama can “kiss my ass”. Go Bill!
The “kiss my ass” comment is a lie. See Media Matters.org
And, I guess owning 8 homes isn’t enough. You gotta pay the taxes too.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/
as I responded to “closed minded obamabot” in the last thread when he cited this same link…
Cindy helped her elderly aunt by putting her up in a condo. The taxes were paid through a trust and postage was returned - NOT delivered.
Cindy is gaining my respect daily. I watched a video of her with landmine victims. Touching.
I agree with you Karen. The more I read about her, the more I like her.
Dare we think she may bring some class to the White House and not want to be like Jackie O and start renovating it to her liking.
Can you imagine? Who has time for landmine victims, I want new curtains - you can call the same interior decorator that the Gov. of Mass. used when he spent tons of money on renovations.
MEchelle was on the View while CIndy was in Vietnam and the media said nary a word about where Cindy was, it was all MEchelles new look
sickening
Has anyone thought of how this represents a larger pattern of what we can expect from the democrats now. It seems that in every race, especially in large african american communities, the race card is being used. How is a white democrat supposed to win now, if every time they or their supporters try to run for office, they are implied racists? How long do you think it will take before almost all white people abandon the democratic party?
Not long. Some, like me, are already independents. Some may have already joined the GOP.
How long do you think it will take before almost all white people abandon the democratic party?
First this kind of thing needs to get reported by the MSM…when the public learns the truth I don’t think it will just be white people leaving the dem party…
I support obama because he is the nominee of the democratic party and i am a democrat, and because the country cannot afford another 4 years of the GOP in the White House.
I was a richardson man until he dropped out.
faced with a choice of clinton or obama I went with obama because he wasn’t part of a familial dynasty, he hasn’t already spent 8 years in the white house, and–most important–HE DIDN’T VOTE TO INVADE AND OCCUPY IRAQ.
We already had bush-clinton-bush.
we don’t need bush-clinton-bush-clinton.
On almost everything else they were identical in terms of policy.
However, had HRC somehow pulled off the victory, I would have been voting for her no problem–just as after my 2004 preferred candidate (Dean) lost I voted for Kerry WITHOUT demanding that people kiss my ass, apologize to me for the real (and imagined) shabby treatment of my preferred candidate at the hands of opponents or the press, and beg for my vote.
The reaction of the sore loser crowd, the GOP ratfuckers, and the pseudo dems has certainly vindicated my decision.
at this point many of the hrc dead enders are indistinguishable from the freeper nutjobs.
If you cover up the uRL you cannot tell which side of the nut job spectrum the conspiracy theories about muslim background, fake documents, or imagined terrorist alliances are coming from.
I will admit I liked Dean, voted for Edwards in the primary…didn’t like Kerry but voted for him…the days of falling in line for the party are over…Obama is a freshman senator with no experience…I DO NOT TRUST HIM to run this country…can’t you understand what it takes to run this country….do you really think a freshman senator can do that?….really?…Bush had more experience in government than Obama…look what we got…
He is not the nominee. There is no nominee until the convention.
Obama admitted, had he been in the senate chamber at the time, that he too might have voted for the war. Please stop pointing to a non-issue; rather, look to what he has done - nothing. Oh, there might have been one bill with regard to the Congo and I think he named a post office after himself, but other than that, the man voted ‘present.’
That familial thing - how in the world can you put that into play. Clinton left office with a balanced budget, a surplus and a 76% approval rating. I’ll take that family any day.
Great! So go vote for Obama and leave us alone!
I support obama because he is the nominee of the democratic party and i am a democrat, and because the country cannot afford another 4 years of the GOP in the White House.
Then, IF the situation were reversed and Hillary Clinton WAS the nominee, you would support her as fiercely as you’re supporting Obama?
This is a question I’m very curious about, because I have a hard time believing that all of the Obama supporters would be able to “get over it” and “fall in line” the way they’re asking Hillary supporters to do. My feeling is that you’d be forming a PUMA party of your own.
Don’t forget when Michelle was asked that question she said, “I’d have to think about it.” Are you saying Michelle isn’t a REAL democrat?
At one stage her candidacy looked automatic. She was the presumptive nominee. If you were a Democrat you were going to vote for her. Then came her atrocious campaign that pandered to the worst elements of the party, some found here. She lost (yes she did). So the answer is a clear yes. Few sensible people want the Republicans in.
Are you American or British?
If she was pandering to the worst elements of the party, then she must have been pandering to you, which she was not, therefore, your claim, like almost everything that comes out of your festering gob, is false.
You are a brownshirt wannabe. Why don’t you stop pretending you are progressive and embrace your BNP kissing cousins.
Except their PUMA would stand for:
Potheads United for Misogynists Assn.
yes Uhhbama is part of the DALEY MONARCHY
you know the one in Chicago where they all get indicted and jailed?
as you face the next draft you remember how you were all about CHANGE and HOPE, good luck with that and God Bless
BREAKING NEWS: The Obama bus was seen fleeing at a high rate of speed. When finally stopped by state troopers, the bus sobbed “I can’t take it any more. There’s too many people under there”.
The bus has been taken in for psychiatric evaluation.
Senator Obama did comment just before reporting time:
“That’s not the bus I knew”.
The bus is currently under sedation according to news reports. Film at Eleven.
(satire)
so now the bus has been thrown under the bus…move over…
I have found the theme song of da bus!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7kYtliQs0tc
DOUBLE DUTCH BUS
Obama has spent more time running for President than being a US Senator. I give him that. He’s good at running for office. Actually doing something when he gets there (see his Chicago district) not so much.
Why can’t people see that…why can’t they see he is just a pawn in a game of power…
I have a good question I think?
If Bill Clinton is now supporting Obama; why hasnt he said something to the press himself.
I mean I have a feeling he will probably eventually come out, but it seems strange he hasnt said any of this himself. Hey Hillary did.
Would you want to support someone who said you are a racist?
Bill Clinton has been reported to have his representatives say these things. The man is an excellent public speaker. Doesn’t need a teleprompter or anything.
Maybe he hasn’t said anything publicly because his wife was referred to as a bitch and a whore. Maybe he hasn’t said anything because his wife was accused of “pimping out his daughter”. Even if Bill didn’t defend Hillary it’s okay in my book. Hillary knows how nasty politics can be. But dissing his little girl? That’s a whole different kettle of fish.
I suspect, and I have no proof, that really upset him.
The Clintons DO NOT support Barcky - It’s all a big media show - Their heart is FAR from the Muslim!
I think you are correct. I think Hillary is doing it on purpose to shove in our faces the defeat. Everytime she gets on the podium for Obama, it reminds me of how much I don’t like him.
This is why Hillary lost votes.
He is not wanting to support him and is likely doing all he can to NOT come out, k we have discussed it before, they are part of the party
how successful has Lieberman been since he broke ranks, not very, he is a pariah and cant get some things passed, if Hillary wants to be effective for the millions of NYers who voted for her, she has 5 year to get things done for them and needs to work with the party
Big Dawg has more space and can push back but they are still leaning all over him and leaking false things to the media to try and force his hand.. they are pushing HARD on him
Bill is working for the whole planet now doing way more than Gore ever could to get REAL things done, HIV drugs, famine and poverty and homelessness addressed, billions thru the Global Initiative in his Foundation. He too doesnt want to hurt Hillarys career. it is a dance, a dance with long knives….
Don’t let the Obamabots change the subject — something they are very good at.
The article here, the subject of this thread, is the thuggish behavior of the Obama team–once again onf ull display.
What is your response to that? How do you justify this behavior? Does this sound like “a uniter, not a divider?”
Hillary is no longer your problem. You don’t have her to slime and kick around any longer. Focus on YOUR candidate.
Do you condone this thuggishness and hostility towards longtime loyal Democrats who are being targeted and bullied because they did not fallin line at the Messiah’s feet? On what basis do you condone it?
Do NOT let them get away with their anti-Hillary nonsense or their rehashing of old arguments. Make them own their candidate. You wanted him: you got him. Now try to defend him.
You mean, Don’t let the topic deviate from Obama bashing?
I don’t see much of the “thuggishness and hostility” you speak of.
Until an Obama democrat tries to say something conciliatory, or mentions party unity, or attempts to refute an unfounded assertion, or dares to make thoughtful criticism of John McCain.
Then I see plenty.
You want to cast all current Obama supporters as anti-Hillary. A lot of us are Clinton supporters, and have been for a long time. We’re just democrats first.
Just like Bill and Hillary.
Then you don’t mind me calling you a racist pig, right. Or how about a big Bitch! Good, now fall in line soldier!