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Obama’s HOME LOAN Update and Taxes, Teamsters, and “Courage”

1) The former Rezkowatch, now renamed The Real Barack Obama, has some additional information on the Obama home loan story. Citing an article at American Thinker by a pseudonymos former state employee, due to the trust arrangement on the property, it is not clear at all who paid the property taxes on the Obama house.

In addition, American Thinker had this to say about those reported taxes:

The Obama’s declared mortgage interest deductions on their tax returns of $32,418 for 2005, $60,449 for 2006, and $57,838 for 2007. But their Northern Trust loan at the terms stated would have generated interest payments of about $30,871 for 2005, $73,395 for 2006 and $72,368 for 2007. For 2005, there would have been additional interest payments for their Hyde Park Condo which they sold on April 29, 2005 so even the 2005 deducted amount is low. They have apparently not been able to deduct the excess.

It is of course possible that the Obamas were able to pay down their mortgage loan. His books were selling and Michelle had nearly tripled her income from the University of Chicago Hospital when her husband was elected a United States Senator. So the Obamas may have chosen to apply some of the windfall toward paying down the mortgage. It would have required about $240,000 in paydown for the reported mortgage interest to equal 5.625%.on the reduced principle.

Beyond the question of the mortgage payments, odd coincidences and connections surround the house purchase, beyond questions already raised by the handling of the mansion’s side yard, which was legally divided by the previous owner into a separate lot, and sold to Tony Rezko’s wife Rita Rezko at the same time the Obamas purchased the house adjoining the yard.

Stay tuned. This story will probably unwind further.

2) Today at realclearpolitics.com Kathleen Parker has an article titled “Courage Under Fire.” She briefly discusses the recent flap over comments about McCain’s POW status and his suitability to be a “war-time” president. Parker goes on to say:

McCain isn’t a hero because he was tortured. He’s a hero because he declined an offer by his captors to be released, refusing to leave his fellow Americans behind.

It may not take much effort to get shot down, but it must take a considerable act of will to consign oneself to more deprivation and torture. It must take a level of courage unknown to most to place concern for others above one’s own interest.
Surely self-sacrifice, courage and loyalty figure somewhere in the calculus for selecting a president.

Then Parker briefly describes Obama’s courage when faced with some uncomfortable circumstances:

A few months ago, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright first came to national attention, Obama was nearly demure when he said: “I can no more disown (Wright) than I can disown my white grandmother.”

He may not have disowned his white grandmother, but Obama didn’t exactly paint a sympathetic — or loving — portrait of her either. He essentially threw her under the bus, saying that she had made racist remarks while he was growing up, a statement that served only to highlight Obama’s own remarkable transcendence.
After several weeks of balancing his professed love for Wright with the controversial statements of his chosen father figure and spiritual mentor, Obama eventually left his church of 20 years. But why then, after all those years, did Obama finally find the door?

What changed was the degree of his self-interest. As long as Wright was helping Obama burnish his bona fides within the African-American community, it didn’t matter that the minister’s rhetorical flights of fancy bordered on paranoid, racist delusion. Only when Wright became a potential obstacle to Obama’s ambition — by saying that Obama was simply behaving as a politician — did Obama show Wright the underside of that very busy bus.

3) And in case you didn’t know how very out of whack people’s expectations of this election are, Bloomberg.com has an article articulating the idea that even a failed Obama administration would be viewed around the world as better than a successful McCain administration. Apparently it’s all about symbolism. The argument, which you will NO DOUBT SEE AGAIN during Obama’s coming 7-country “world tour” is that by electing him, American will regain its moral reputation.

4) Powerline has an interesting post about Obama and the teamsters.

Wall Street Journal reporters Brody Mullins and Kris Maher reported in early May how Barack Obama won the Teamsters’ endorsement for president. In a meeting earlier this year, he privately “told the union that he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption[.]” Obama holds himself out as a new kind of politician who refuses to play the old games. The story should have blown Obama’s pretense up several times over, but it has generated next to no coverage.

The Teamsters, the union of song, legend and Jimmy Hoffa(s) I and II, have been under an injunction since 1989 to root out corruption and mafia ties to the union. As recently as 2002, the IRB had to permanently bar two of Hoffa’s buddies from the union for trying to strong-arm a Nevada local into hiring a mob-related labor broker who would then bring in non-union low-wage workers, thus damaging the local.

Powerline draws also from a New Republic piece back in May.

There are two reasons to be concerned about Obama’s actions here. The first is procedural. Obama’s promise to close down the IRB suggests a Bush-like contempt for the customary relationship between government and the judicial process. The president himself can’t shut down the IRB. He can only recommend to his attorney general that he recommend to the U.S. Attorney in New York that it be shut down. But in these kind of touchy matters, presidents usually defer to the judgment of their attorney generals. By coming close to promising a shutdown, Obama was putting politics above judicial procedure–which is just the kind of “Washington” behavior that he likes to criticize his opponents for doing.

The second reason for concern is more substantive. Labor leaders have made plausible arguments for shutting down the IRB, but a Chicago politician should be extremely wary of acceding to them. If there is continuing mob influence in the Teamsters, it is probably centered in the Chicago area. And in the last decade, the Teamsters in Chicago have shown little enthusiasm for rooting out corruption in their ranks. As a veteran Chicago politician surrounded by a veteran Chicago campaign staff, Obama had to have known this–and that makes his warm words to the Teamsters all the more disturbing.

TNR goes on to say:

All of this may be new information for people who don’t live in Chicago, but it can’t have been unknown to Obama and the Chicagoans who run his campaign. Stier’s resignation and the IRB investigation, and the charges of corruption and organized crime have been covered over the years by Chicago Tribune reporter Stephen Franklin and other local journalists. Yet the taint of corruption and of ties to organized crime seemed not to ruffle Obama and his campaign. According to the Journal report, the Obama campaign brokered the candidate’s promise to end the IRB with John Coli, the Chicago-area chairman of Joint Council 25, whom Stier identified in his report as one of the people responsible for shutting down his investigation. (Obama’s Federal Election Commission records also show a hefty contribution to his senatorial and presidential races from the same Richard Simon who hatched the Vegas scheme to undercut local union workers and who, according to Stier, has mob ties.)

Chicago politics. I wonder if there are any ties between this bunch and Tony Rezko? I wonder if there’s any thought that Fitzgerald (investigating Rezko, et al) could be gotten rid of in the same way the Teamsters tried to get rid of all their investigations?

5) And from the “now you know” file. The AP reports that more Americans would rather barbecue with Obama than with McCain. News you can use. I wonder if he knows the difference between tomato-based, mustard-based and vinegar-based barbecues?

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Comment by Bill Dupray | 2008-07-02 15:06:54

Obama received $71,000 in campaign cash in 2004 from the lender in Illinois, who then in February 2005 gave him a below-market mortgage rate personally saving him $4,000.00 per year.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=493

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-07-02 15:14:41

Courage? I don’t believe Obama understands that word.

And a side note — the Obama phone bank is calling — I got a call this morning — and I used the fewest words possible to convey the message that I was not going to give Obama one penny!

My guess is that he isn’t using volunteers for his money raising — these are PROFESSIONAL harassers.

 

Comment by Billy Beane | 2008-07-02 15:17:33

Yes, it is all about voting for the American Idol president as covered by the reporters at Entertainment Weekly. Issues, who cares, but this is our big chance to make history no matter how catastrophic that history will turn out to be.

Comment by Billy Beane | 2008-07-02 15:23:43

As an aside, I do give the big BO credit for being a uniter. I never thought I would see the liberal media using the conservative media to corroborate its stories about Obama.

Comment by rorybellows | 2008-07-02 15:38:46

Exactly Billy, I’ve given up on the liberal media. I now get all my news from trusted sources like WorldNet Daily, NewsBusters and Larry Sinclair.

 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 16:18:20

Cornwallis had the band play,
If ponies rode men and grass ate the cows
Just What Tune was in the Air when
The World Turned Upside Down?

 
 
 

Comment by FloridaDem | 2008-07-02 15:19:59

On the mortgage issue, that information should be easy to look up in public records? I mean, if new documents were issued when they paid down the loan, it should show up, right?

Here in FL, all public records are online – mortgages, loan documents, UCC filings.

But Illinois, with it’s Chicago thug politics, has probably made it very difficult to look at Obama’s mortgage info.

Question: Does he have to file a detailed personal financial statement? That should show balances, etc.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-07-02 15:23:05

Since the “Trust” is the entity that holds the property , I am not sure how that works…

Comment by rorybellows | 2008-07-02 15:36:01

The entire premise of this post doesn’t make sense. He deducted less than what he could have. So either he paid down the mortgage or he lost money to the government in not taking the deductions he was owed. What’s the news here again?

Comment by grob | 2008-07-02 15:56:56

I agree. There is an income limit phase out to mortgage and other itemized deductions. Why people don’t realize that is beyond me.

 
 
 

Comment by grob | 2008-07-02 16:00:41

You only get new documents when you get a new mortgage. I mean, you pay down your mortgage every month with your mortgage payment.

 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 16:44:54

Been chasin’ that cow for over three months.
Understand a little extra something here. This is Chicago.
A city run by a machine essentially plugged into the financial hepa-filter for EVERY business transaction between the city, county and its subcontractors. These same guys, Rezko, the Guv and Barry are all in this together. (tip of iceberg: see Rezkowatch for all of it and plug your nose)
So, when Mssrs. Obama and Rezko tell someone they’d like to buy their house… for this much… maybe tomorrow a little less… how long do you say no?
This is Chicago we’re talking about. O’Bannion, Capone, Daley, Blagojevich, DaleyII and the Annotated One.
How could it not stink?
Additionally, take a look at the timing of the transactions regarding the re-platting and re-assigning of parcel numbers, then the sale of said new properties. Gotta have a parcel number so you can sell it,tax it, identify its perimeter, calculated its new square footage and see if it meets zoning regulations. If it doesn’t , oops! You’d need a variance wouldn’t you?
How long do you figure in a city the size of Chicago might a little thing like that take the average, union dues paying hog butcher to get done? Six months? Nine? Never inside ninety days… Hell, permits will take more than ninety days!

Obama and Rezko got ‘er done in five days. Start to finish… that’s a wrap! Five Effing days.

 

Comment by noproblama | 2008-07-02 18:02:57

FD, usually yes. I just posted downstairs how it would be very easy to simply check against the rate sheet for that day.

However that link to patriot room in the first comment says the pricing was “internal”, which means the lender probably kept the loan on their own books instead of selling it on the secondary market.

Yeah, that’s a special deal.

 
 

Comment by anonymous | 2008-07-02 15:34:44

No surprise here since one of the radio commercials is about Larry Sinclair.

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Prepare for a major troll invasion if the MSM is forced to cover this.

Comment by rorybellows | 2008-07-02 15:36:45

Clinton/Sinclair 08!

Comment by anonymous | 2008-07-02 15:41:14

LMAO and did you see the video where the person who made it claims they find Sinclair more credible than Obama? ;)

Obama Lies Again, Maybe We Should Believe Larry Sinclair

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-07-02 15:44:28

Barky will be making a “speech” soon… That’s not the Larry Sinclair that blew me

Comment by anonymous | 2008-07-02 15:46:08

Yes we are way overdue for a historic speech!

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-07-02 15:59:48

Yeah. The topic is..when he blew me I saw stars and stripes. Sub title=I’m patriotic.

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-07-02 16:02:15

 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 17:04:49

Perhaps the stars and stripes came when his head flew back and hit the doorpost?
I had a friend once tell me his girl asked if he’d like her to hum the national anthem as an added bonus. He said, “no, but how are you with ‘Flight of the Bumblebee…”

 
 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 16:51:01

this blow by blow between Barry and Larry really sucks…

Comment by sic721 | 2008-07-02 18:17:48

Barry the Athlete

I watched him bounce a basketball,
I watched him try to bowl,
I know he’s not a NASCAR driver,
But he’s been on the pole!!

Heh heh

 
 
 
 

Comment by dpax | 2008-07-02 15:48:14

Obama/Sinclair 69!

 
 

Comment by Elizabeth | 2008-07-02 16:45:15

Who is this group????

Is it a new group or what?

 
 

Comment by bart | 2008-07-02 15:36:28

The Teamsters story reminds me of the Maytag story. Obama has a history of “taking it to” the blue collar worker.

Comment by bart | 2008-07-02 15:38:42

Actually, maybe that history explains why he didn’t really even try to connect to blue-collar workers but just dismissed them. Either he knows they’ll find out about his past double-dealing and figures they won’t support him or he wrote off this group in favor of “information age” workers some time ago.

 

Comment by Billy Beane | 2008-07-02 16:12:31

The big BO is also in favor of the misnamed Freedom of Employment Act which will take away the right to a private ballot by workers on a vote whether or not to unionize. In place of the private vote will be a public “card check” in which each worker expresses his union or non-union preference. Union organizers will be able to pressure and exert undue influence over those workers who reject the unionization by this public vote.

A few thugs exerting peer pressure can easily sway public voting. It is the reason private voting is considered sacrosanct, except to BO and union bosses.

But the average worker be damned. Unions bosses need to collect those dues to funnel to BO in return for even more political favors. Of course BO doesn’t care about the blue collar worker.

Comment by bart | 2008-07-02 16:16:39

Good point. But couldn’t a corporate boss also see that card? Wouldn’t the union and business both have to agree on the numbers voting, and, thus, the business see that card as well? Maybe workers don’t want their bosses to see how they voted.

Comment by Billy Beane | 2008-07-02 16:23:24

Nope, the company can only see the resulting tally and not participate in the direct lobbying of the vote. In other words, the union bosses can visit each worker in their home, the company rep can not. the company can only challenge the tally if it has good cause to assert coercion and fraud.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Tricia | 2008-07-02 15:40:33

Unless his mortgage was An adjustable rate the Principal and Interest is the same . Your payment will never change until the last payment is due even if you make a principal reduction. With that rate I would assume on a Jumbo loan at that time in 2005 is was a 30 year fixed rate.

 

Comment by Ugo | 2008-07-02 15:49:40

It seem to me that the majority of the Americans are not paying attention.

Wake up America!

 

Comment by Tricia | 2008-07-02 15:51:22

Are Tony Resko tax returns made available because of the trial to see if his company took the interest deduction.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 16:55:29

Tony Rezko’s taxes have so far caused seven federal accountants to imitate the AFLAC duck right after Yogi’s rant.
ARRRRGGGHHH!
Oprah’s book club has it at number four in the new fiction category.

 
 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-07-02 15:54:35

Abit OT but there is a new article on savagepolitics.com about cnn and CENSORSHIP. And yes that is exactly the oblasso campaign. DAH! You ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAINST THE GREAT obama!

Seriously… this is getting WAY WAY out of control.

 

Comment by anonymous | 2008-07-02 16:00:52

Wise move rather than waiting to possibly get censored.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008
RezkoWatch is here to stay! … But we’re moving! (Updated)

We’ve packed up our 500+ articles and 900+ comments and taken them with us. Everything that you could read and see here at RW has been relocated to our new digs. With RW’s new home comes a new name—The Real Barack Obama (RBO).

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-07-02 16:03:14

even a failed Obama administration would be viewed around the world as better than a successful McCain administration

No one is going to fall for that perception.

There are distinctions between FAILED and SUCCESSFUL.

Pick one.

 

Comment by cofer | 2008-07-02 16:03:54

 

Comment by Larse12 | 2008-07-02 16:24:41

Everybody better start believing in Larry Sinclair!!

Hillary or McCain 08
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

 

Comment by Annie Oakley | 2008-07-02 16:37:20

If they are going to try and sell us Obama based on a superficial impression the world has of him, perhaps the world would like to have a beer with him and GWB. Right after that, why not go out and elect him President of the World? They like him, they can have him.

Meanwhile, the United States needs a president. We need a really good president. As voters, we have few things we can base our vote on. We can try and assess a candidate’s character. We can judge character based on track record and alliances. Obama has an unusual number of people in his circle who have shown the absolute lowest moral character. What can you say about people who steal from teachers’s pensions and hospitals? Meanwhile, they have to stoop to insulting McCain for being a prisoner of war. But as this writer put so well, it wasn’t the getting shot down that showed character.

It may not take much effort to get shot down, but it must take a considerable act of will to consign oneself to more deprivation and torture. It must take a level of courage unknown to most to place concern for others above one’s own interest. Surely self-sacrifice, courage and loyalty figure somewhere in the calculus for selecting a president.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-02 16:58:40

So true.
Thanks, Little Sure Shot!

 
 

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-07-02 16:46:53

WAKE-UP. AMERICA, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!
How come Barack Obama is getting so many free pass for his many red flags to the nation??
For the many who continue exposing Obama’s dirty linens, I salute and consider you patriots !You are doing your best to save our beloved nation from DANGERS ahead, should Barack Obama be the selected DNC nominee.
This must be the main reason why Barack Obama relocated the Democratic Party’s political & field operations from DC to CHICAGO,the place known for its dirty politics.
FREEDOM !! FROM CORRUPTION !!
Hillary or McCain ‘08

 

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Comment by Thomas | 2008-07-03 05:43:37

Hillary in August. Nothing less.

 

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