What or Who is Obama’s Base?
By LisaB on July 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs
I think the potential “new” Democratic base is becoming clear at last. Or at least the base for the GE. Whether Obama would run from this base like he has from the one he used to win the Democratic nomination (presumptive), remains to be seen. But let’s look at what we got, shall we?
1) A fascinating piece by David Brooks at the NYT includes information about some of Obama’s heaviest donors, not by individual, but by class and work sector. He sees some interesting trends.
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Brooks discusses the breakdown of Obama’s supporters, contrasting that with the campaign’s constant assertions of the “low donation supporter” as if they are merely processing $5, $10 and $25 checks from the “little guys.” Based on information at opensecrets.org, Brooks finds the following:
As in other recent campaigns, lawyers account for the biggest chunk of Democratic donations. They have donated about $18 million to Obama, compared with about $5 million to John McCain, according to data released on June 2 and available at OpenSecrets.org.
People who work at securities and investment companies have given Obama about $8 million, compared with $4.5 for McCain. People who work in communications and electronics have given Obama about $10 million, compared with $2 million for McCain. Professors and other people who work in education have given Obama roughly $7 million, compared with $700,000 for McCain.
Real estate professionals have given Obama $5 million, compared with $4 million for McCain. Medical professionals have given Obama $7 million, compared with $3 million for McCain. Commercial bankers have given Obama $1.6 million, compared with $1.2 million for McCain. Hedge fund and private equity managers have given Obama about $1.6 million, compared with $850,000 for McCain.
When you break it out by individual companies, you find that employees of Goldman Sachs gave more to Obama than workers of any other employer. The Goldman Sachs geniuses are followed by employees of the University of California, UBS, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, National Amusements, Lehman Brothers, Harvard and Google. At many of these workplaces, Obama has a three- or four-to-one fund-raising advantage over McCain.
Brooks notes that all the heavy donors are all highly educated. It is also apparent that these donors are “information economy” professionals for the most part. Brooks ends with this:
If the Democrats are elected, this highly educated class will have much more say over policy than during the campaign. Undecided voters sway campaigns, but in government, elites generally run things. Once the Republicans are vanquished, I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for that capital gains tax hike or serious measures to expand unionization.
Interesting. Remember when George Bush told a bunch of millionaires that they were HIS BASE? Well, perhaps change some of the industries, from coal and oil to information management and finance and you’ve got the same thing. Also note what these sectors don’t typically represent: blue collar workers, low income workers and/or manufacturing industries like the auto industry.
2) The Independent has an interesting, and more objective piece about Obama than you’ll find at most MSM sites. Dominic Lawson writes about Obama’s many flips between the “good” Obama and the evil twin Baricky. It’s definitely worth a read.
Lawson starts out with a passage from The Audacity of Hope:
“I find comfort in the fact that the longer I’m in politics the less nourishing popularity becomes, that a striving for rank and fame seems to betray a poverty of ambition, and that I am answerable mainly to the steady gaze of my own conscience.”
Thus spake Barack Obama. These words appear at the conclusion of the chapter entitled “Politics” in Obama’s 2006 book The Audacity of Hope. They also sum up much of what we now know about Obama: a man of stunning articulacy, but also stunning self-regard.
Lawson goes on to detail the many position switches Obama has managed in the brief time since the primary season more or less ended.
Those who actually supported Obama during this [primary] process now divide neatly, if unevenly, into two groups. The first, smaller, group is full of buyer’s remorse. The blogosphere is hissing like a catherine wheel with their anger with Obama, obviously, but above all with themselves. The second, much bigger group, continues to buy Obama’s story. They argue that everything and anything is justified if it helps to get a Democrat back in the White House; some of them add that “of course” Obama doesn’t believe any of the things he is now saying to woo the “redneck states” and that once in the White House he will revert to his “true beliefs”.
To this group we must address a simple question. How do you know what Obama really believes in, other than his own destiny – and, of course, his conscience?
An excellent question. And I don’t think anyone has a clue. But here’s the thing.
*While claiming to raise most of his funds from “small donors,” Obama has actually raised most of his money from wealthy donors of the “information age” elites. Just whose interests will he look after here?
*He has ruthlessly switched positions on many hot-button items of importance to traditional Democrats who got him to where he is now (see NAFTA, FISA, public campaign financing, and others). Just which direction on any of these will he ultimately go?
* Then he drops the f-bomb on his supposed base: the proposal to keep the faith-based policy of GWB. Is this a ruse? Will he do this or is it just a way of getting evangelicals to vote for him?
* Obama has discarded many friends of long standing, some who probably helped him on his way up. Is Obama the kind of man who easily drops long-term relationships or is it the new friends who won’t last in his organization?
So, three questions:
1. WHO is Obama?
2. WHO is his real BASE?
and, perhaps most importantly,
3. HOW will we be able to tell?
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There never was any question as to who his base was - yet the illiterate who are the Obamazombies are the ones who defend him to the hilt.
What I don’t understand is WHY these low-level, ‘average’ Democrats who are supposedly always questioning everything, have never questioned Obama?
Again, it reminds me of the Bushbots. Scary, really.
Answer: clever marketing.
“What I don’t understand is WHY these low-level, ‘average’ Democrats who are supposedly always questioning everything, have never questioned Obama?”
They don’t want to be called racists, and that is part of the reason why BaJoke was picked by the George Soroses of the world: You can always play the race card while concomitantly feeling good while playing what Thomas Sowell calls “mascot politics” by running on the ‘first AA president’ theme.
Excellent work by you on this piece, LisaB. This saves many of us from having to read more of Brooks’ drivel. Wow, David Brooks will look at some incredibly basic statistics and try to divine for us all some larger meaning. Who knew, Bobo?
And the “first woman candidate” was not mascot politics? Is there no pride that the party to have a choice of either historic choice was the Democrat Party? Who are the Repugs running? Another old white guy.
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WOW! Not only are you bots racists and sexists, you are ageists.
Another old white guy
OMG you are sooo right! Let’s run a middle aged black male. All we need is HOPE and Affirmative Action.
I’d like a party that ran the most qualified people for the ticket. If they turn out to be female or black or Asian or Latino or old or handicapped - then that would be fine for us all to congratulate ourselves on not letting those differences stop us from electing the best. It just seems like the cart has been put before the horse: Let’s elect an AA because he’s AA. Fine with me if you can show he’s the most qualified, but otherwise it’s affirmative action at its worst. . Hillary was qualified. She happened to be female. I would never have gone along with electing her just because she’s female.
And there you have it. Hillary ran on her many qualifications. Obama ran on Hope and Change.
One was proud of her historic run. Another has constantly warned “they will try to paint me as a scary black man.” Only one of these ran on a true message of Hope, and I’ll give you a clue. Her husband was the Original Man From Hope. I’m very inspired by her bid for the presidency.
Claiming that someone who was top of the law class at Harvard is an affirmative action candidate is so beyond stupid, it is laughable. Go on say what you really mean - there are enough on here who would love to don a white sheet for the night.
Tell that crap to the poor Black people who went without heat in the housing units in Obama’s district, while his rich sponsors who were in charge of turning ON that heat ran off with all the federal funds.
It appears that Obama is the racist.
Mary — 700 died of that Chicago heat and nothing was done to help get them out of their houses. Most of them were old, poor, infirmed and frightened of their neighborhood. Obama in charge.
True, it wasn’t only the cold. The heat killed many, many people. People who had no fans or a/c and were so surround by crime they were afraid to open their windows. Bo’s crimanal buddies have a lot to answer for.
egad, my typing is getting worse.
The 1995 heat wave took place two years before Obama was a state senator. Thank goodness you weren’t in charge
Despicable. Just downright evil. There’s a special place on Hell for Obama and his cronies.
If you believe he was top of his class. If he was, he wouldn’t fail so miserably without a teleprompter. I still remember the hilarious ABC debate. It’s like the DNC elected a baby.
jr — the reason Obama fails so miserably without his teleprompter is because he’s afraid to say where he really stands. He knows that would finish him.
He graduated with a “D”..I was reading up on it in January..
Where the hell did you get that one UK? In what alternative kool-aid drinking universe was Obama at the top of his class at Harvard Law? HA! Talk to the people who were there! He never published. He never clerked for a judge. He has refused to release his grades and we all know the selection process for editor of the law review was not based on grades the year he was “selected”.
I keep seeing a pattern here. Nobama keeps getting “selected” for president on qualities other than merit. No wonder he keeps inflating his biography.
In fact, people had trouble figuring out why he get on the Law Review since the editor usually comes from the top 2% of students.
He was never editor. he was an itnern at best.
Top of the class??? White sheets??? You’ve got quite an imagination there.
Why is it that BO’s supporters can never support him? All they can do is call people who don’t support him racist and attack the other candidate.
The ‘new’ politics bares a striking similarity to the old ones.
What is laughable is that someone is running with 2 years of experience in the Senate. Don’t know where you work, but would you expect to be qualified to run your company after working there for two years? And Obama somehow has such an ego that he thinks he’s qualified to run the entire country after two years? Obama may be qualified one day WHEN HE HAS EXPERIENCE. Right now, no way.
He was top of his law class at Harvard?
Does Harvard have a pattern of turning out incoherent “lawyers” or something?
What does UK stand for again? United (for)Kool-aid?
We’re just assuming this person is in the uk. It might stand for uncle knucklehead or something.
You found out his grades? Wonderful! He hasn’t been so forthcoming about most things. How about Columbia and Occidental, as you are such an excellent sleuth?
How do you know he was at the top of his class in Harvard. Show me the grades!
Better do some research and quit spouting Obama myths. He wasn’t at the top of his class; he was the first affirmative action editor (not selected on merit) of the HLR, and he never wrote a single article for the review. After Obama’s lackluster performance, they changed the rules at HLR, adding the requirement that editors actually write articles!
Graduating MCL from Harvard qualifies him for the Senate not the White House. Obama continues flunking on the actual test for experience. He gives the wrong answers on UHC, Iraq, Iran, etc. He is not ready to be President.
yawn. you know nothing, limey.
The first “woman” viable candidate was the most honest, highly qualified, sincere, trustworthy, and tough, Hillary would have been one of the greats and history would have told the story. Her lifes work proves it.
Hillary IS the best one still
i agree 100% with you
And a bona fide valedictorian—I think that stood then and stands now for “top of the class”.
Another day — same jerk obamabutt trying to explain away his messiah’s arrogance and stupidity.
That’s kind of amusing coming from a country that still worships decaying Monarchs.
Yea, Hillary is a “Mascot.” I guessed you missed the 35+ years of documented and accomplished public service. And the astonishing breadth and depth of knowledge and intelligence. She’s just a “token.” If that were true, where are all the other strong, brilliant, experienced, and compassionate women candidates? Hillary is exceptional, not a “mascot.”
And p.s. being “different” whether it’s a woman or a minority is not a qualification to be president. That’s the problem here. Since when did knowledge and experience become secondary criteria? Oh yea, with Reagan and then Bush. Now we have Obambi.
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Anyone able to validate the following?
1. 1854: Pro-life Americans establish the first major anti-slavery party. The Republican Party is born.
2. 1862: Pro-life politicians are the first to abolish slavery in Washington, D.C. They are Republicans.
3. 1863: Pro-life politicians issue the Emancipation Proclamation, in order to set all slaves free. They are Republicans.
4. 1865: Attorney John Rock (a registered doctor), becomes the first black member of the Supreme Court bar. He is a Republican.
5. 1870: Pastor Rhodes Revels becomes America’s first black Senator. He is a Republican.
6. 1872: Louisiana gives America her first nonwhite Governor. He is a Republican.
7. 1872: By now, the first seven African-Americans are in the U.S. Congress. They are all Republicans.
8. 1884: John Lynch, a Congressman, becomes the first black to preside over a national convention. He is a Republican.
9-11. The 1890s: During his stint as New York City Police Commissioner, Teddy Roosevelt is the first leader to open doors to women – and the first to welcome Jews in the department. But there’s more. Teddy becomes the first to introduce standardized pistols to the force, in order to protect innocents. He is a Republican.
12. 1901: Teddy Roosevelt, a balanced conservationist, becomes – according to Time 2006 – the first President “to make environmentalism an issue.” He is a Republican.
13. 1901: President Roosevelt upsets Democrats when he invites the first African-American to dine in the White House. He is a Republican.
14. 1906: President Roosevelt becomes the first American to win the Nobel Peace Prize. He is a Republican.
15. 1916: Jeanette Rankin becomes America’s first congresswoman. She is a Republican.
16. 1916: Also – according to Gov. Thomas Judge — Rankin becomes the first “woman in the world to be elected to a parliamentary body.” She
is a Republican.
17. 1921: Pro-life politicians are the first to establish and back the controversial Dyer Anti-Lynching Laws. They are Republicans.
18. 1925: Florence Khan becomes the first Jewess to serve in Congress. She is a Republican.
19. 1938. Former President Herbert Hoover becomes the first statesmen to rebuke Adolph Hitler in person. He is a Republican.
20. 1943. Hoover is the first major statesmen to back the controversial Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People of Europe, which finally convinces President Roosevelt, the Democrat, to create a War Refugee Board, in order to rescue Jews. He is a Republican.
21. 1950: Joseph Mc Carthy, a great patriot, delivers his famous Wheeling speech and is the first Senator to publicly blow the whistle
on the largest nest of Red Fascists in the State Department. History will vindicate the Senator. He is a Republican.
22. 1953: Former Catholic Congresswoman Clare Luce Booth becomes the first female ambassador to a major world power. She is a Republican.
23-5. 1954: On his 30th anniversary, as FBI Director, the liberal Associated Press, Washington, acknowledges that J. Edgar Hoover is
responsible for three firsts. Before his time there was no “fingerprint file [1], no crime detection laboratory [2], no training program [3], and no prestige.” He is a Republican.
26: 1955: President Eisenhower becomes the first President to appoint an African-American (E. Frederic Morrow) to an executive position on
the White House staff. He is a Republican.
27. 1957: Eisenhower becomes the first President to order troops to protect black students at Central High, Arkansas. He is a Republican.
28. 1957: Eisenhower’s Civil Rights Bill makes him the first President to strongly back black voting rights and protections in the post-war
period. He is a Republican.
29. 1959: Hiram L. Fong becomes the first Asian-American Senator. He is a Republican.
30-1. 1964: Margaret Chase Smith (not Hillary Clinton) is the first woman to run as a U.S. Presidential candidate for a major party. She
is a Republican. (Note: Smith is also the first female to be elected in the U.S. House and Senate too.)
32. 1964: Hiram L. Fong becomes the first Asian presidential candidate. He is a Republican.
33. 1964: Barry Goldwater is the first person of Jewish ancestry to run as a U.S. presidential candidate for a major party. He is a Republican.
34. 1964: The Grand Old Party is the first (and only) party to strongly back the Civil Rights Act (83%). Thank God for the Republicans.
35. 1971: Herbert Choy becomes the first Asian-American to serve on the federal bench. He is a Republican.
36. 1971: Romana Acosta Banuelos becomes the first Hispanic-American Treasurer of the U.S. She is a Republican.
37. 1971: Senator Strom Thurmond, a former member of the racist Democratic Party, renounces his past, and becomes the first southern Senator to hire an African-American, in a senatorial office. He is a Republican.
38. 1973: Henry Kissinger becomes the first Jewish U.S. Secretary of State. He is a Republican.
39. 1985: Significantly, Reagan becomes the first world leader to describe five dictatorships (Cuba, Iran, Libya, Nicaragua, and North Korea), as “outlaw states run by the strangest collection of misfits, loony-tunes and squalid criminals since the end of the Third Reich.” (Loud cheers and laughs.) He is a Republican.
40. 1988: Reagan becomes the first President to sign legislation which acknowledges that – under FDR, the Democrat – Japanese internment camps were based upon “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership.” He also offers a formal apology and compensation to survivors. He is a Republican.
41. 1988: Lauro F. Cavazos, the former Secretary of Education, becomes the first Hispanic-American to serve as a U.S. Cabinet Member. He is a Republican.
42. 1989: Julia Chang Bloch becomes the first Asian U.S. ambassador. She is a Republican.
43-4. 1990: Antonia Coello Novello becomes the first woman and the first Hispanic-American to become a Surgeon General of the U.S. She is a Republican.
45. 2001: Elaine Chao becomes the first Asian-American Cabinet Minister. She is a Republican.
46. 2001: Colin Powell becomes the first African-American Secretary of State. He is a Republican.
47. 2001: The late Lieutenant Colonel Roosevelt becomes the first and only President to receive the Medal of Honor, America’s highest military award. He was a Republican.
48. 2005: Alberto Gonzales becomes the first Hispanic American Attorney General of the U.S. He is a Republican.
49. 2005: Condoleezza Rice becomes the first African-American female Secretary of State. She is a Republican.
50. 2008: John McCain looks like he will become the first President born outside of the continental United States, in the Panama Canal
Zone. He is a Republican.
Many of the most progressive Supreme Court decisions protecting individual liberties were all written by Republicans justices appointed by Republican presidents. Here’s a sample.
Boumediene v. Bush granting habeas corpus rights to non-uniformed enemy combatants captured on the field of battle was written for the majority by a Republican, Anthony Kennedy, appointed by Ronald Reagan.
Romer v. Evans, invalidating laws denying gays the right to bring local discrimination claims is another Kennedy decision.
Lawrence v. Texas, invalidating criminal prohibitions against private sexual acts between consenting gay adults is yet another Kennedy decision.
Planned Parenthood v. Casey re-affirming the Roe v. Wade decision recognizing the right to abortion was written by Sandra Day O’Connor, the first woman on the SUpreme Court and another appointee of Ronald Reagan. Kennedy joined O’Connor d in the majority opinion.
Roe v. Wade itself was authored for the majority by another Republican, Harry Blackmun, who was appointed to the Supreme Court by Richard Nixon.
Brown v. Board of Education, which struck down laws allowing racial segregation, was written by another Republican, Earl Warren, an Eisenhower appointee.
Gideon v. Wainwright, granting indigent non-capital criminal defendants the right to publicly-funded counsel was a Warren decision.
Miranda v. Arizona requiring that certain rights of a person being interrogated while in police custody be clearly explained, including the right to an attorney is also a Warren decision.
The Anonymous Liberal
Thursday, November 16, 2006
“But I think Deval Patrick’s success hints at an even more interesting dynamic that will arise if Obama’s should manage to secure the Democratic nomination. If that should happen, it will be THE story. And not just here in the U.S., but around the world. Obama would be the first African-American to win a major party’s presidential nomination. He’d be just one momentous day away from becoming the leader of the free world. No matter what else happens in the campaign, no matter who his opponent is, that single story line will dwarf all others. Throughout the campaign, media coverage will be dominated by discussion of the historical significance of the election. Newspaper and magazine headlines will scream “Is America on the Verge of Making History?” Throughout the country, there will be a pervasive sense that we are on the cusp of a dramatic and important historical event, that we’re about to take a bold new step forward as a nation. And believe me, people will get caught up in it. It will be a potent political phenomenon. Obama’s opponent, whether it be McCain or Romney or whoever, will have to try very hard to counter the sense that he is standing athwart history yelling “stop.””
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2006/11/successful-test-run-of-obamas.html
Well, certain people had no fucking problem with cheating the first woman president out of making history, so why should WE give a fuck about the first black president?
This article was written in ‘06.
That’s why I posted it.
As a resident of Massachusetts- I am laughing my sorry ass off at ” Deval Patrick’s success”. Success? he is useless.
He can’t get anything of substance thru
the statehouse. He keeps trying to balance the budget and pay for programs with “funny money”. Revenue from casinos not even built and voted down!
Why did Massachusetts- a state made for Obama to win with Kennedy and Kerry backing- come out SO BIG for Clinton? Because we told David Evilrod- “Been there, Done that, No thank you”
Fool me once- shame on you
Fool me twice- shame on me.
I really think Deval Patrick was Axelrod’s test run , his beta version.
If Deval Patrick is such a success, why did Hillary win MASS by 17 points? Obama had Patrick, Kennedy and Kerry on his side. Could it be they were bamboozled by Patrick, so they could see through Obama? The idea that we are suppose to vote for someone just because they are black, is insane.
Mass is one of the only states where there was no cheating in the primary race. I checked every state. Mass cast nearly 1 million votes and counted all of them!
Obama is by definition an ARAB AMERICAN..Check it out on in the inernet..He ia 50% White, 43.25%ARAB AMERICAN, and 6.75% African American…I have read by minority definition to be considered in that minority you must be 8% of that blood line.
It’s just like Dubya’s peeps. The Obamabots are a bunch of young kids who don’t know diddly squat about politics. I was amused to hear my aesthetician, a recent immigrant from Britain, telling me how Hillary Clinton and John McCain are scary–she’s afraid of them–but she trusts Obama. She’s about 21 and probably has nine months job training–no higher education. I have four degrees related to politics, am a native born American, followed politics for 40 years, but this person looks at me and sees a 60 yr old and immediately assumes she needs to explain politics to me. Same with my stylist–also about 29. Both young white women who adore Obama and trust him because he’s a man who lectures and scolds people in an authoritarian manner.
Dubya’s crowd were Bible thumpers were had only recently paid attention to politics and got easily propagandized by Faux News.
So sad that Americans really have become so uninformed and ill-educated that we can’t get a viable presidential candidate.
Don’t talk that way about their hero
McGovern DukakisObama.Now you understand why Democrats have only elected 2 presidents in 40 years.
uppity — exactly — Bill Clinton a two term successful president was savaged by the Obama campaign with nary a word of support from the DNC. The Democratic Party deserves loser.
Exactly s. hall. Thanks for saying this. Bill Clinton savaged by the Obama campaign and the AA community on whose behalf he and his wife the should-be and would-be greatest president HRC, also savaged by false charges of racism while Nobama and the DNC and Pelosi, Dean, Brazile stood by and did absolutely nothing. Sickening. I checked out of the Democratic party Sunday morning after the Democratic Party Rules Committee stole the votes of Florida and Michigan voters and handed them to BO, their selected candidate. This is Bush and 2000 all over again. Another arrogant leader focused on himself.
You left off ron paul.
he’s worse odds than the casino.
if u put money on him, u are almost certain to be disappointed.
depends on the spread
If Obama gets elected we’ll all be bent over and spread.
It still depends on the spread. I’m told mayo works
jim — right Obama is angry at all of us because he had a ditzy mom and and some absentee dads. The Misery of Barack Obama.
This history of the Democratic party is literally riddled with “Sure Thing” candidates who lost.
Uppity — The Republican Party knows how to win — just hope they want to win this year.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain… or the industries behind the curtain. The Bilderbergers know best! Go ahead, google it… bilderberg sebelius obama nothing to see here people move along…
Karma Chameleon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeTpbV9nt0&feature=related
Desert loving in your eyes all the way
If I listen to your lies would you say
Im a man without conviction
Im a man who doesnt know
How to sell a contradiction
You come and go
You come and go
Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
You come and go
You come and go
Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dream
Red, gold and green
Red, gold and green
Didnt hear your wicked words every day
And you used to be so sweet I heard you say
That my love was an addiction
When we cling our love is strong
When you go youre gone forever
You string along
You string along
Every day is like a survival
Youre my lover not my rival
Every day is like a survival
Youre my lover not my rival
Im a man without conviction
Im a man who doesnt know
How to sell a contradication
You come and go
You come and go
Obama was invited to a Bilderberg meeting, Hillary and Bush are members. As above google is your friend.
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So was your prime minister.
Like the Republicans, New Labour does not have long left in power.
So you support the Conservatives?
ukforDems — what does gobsmacked mean?
John edwards is a memeber too. check out You tube and see the members of bilderberger.
Joseph Nye has openly endorsed Obama praising him as the new face of “soft power.”
Dude, are you friggin’ quoting Culture Club? Just…ewwww.
Well, that certainly explains the issue of the disappearing anti-Obama blogs from Google.
The Obama base is the neo-liberal corporatist base. The see themselves as a permanent class of ruling elites of institutionalized government. They believe that big bureaucracy, like the UN, is much better able to manage our affairs, there is no trust in the voter. this is the movement very prevalent in the EU today, that of ceding individual state sovereignty to the unelected elites of Brussels.
Well don’t just hit it on the head or anything…
Guess that explains the stories that Obama is wildly popular in Europe.
Bill Clinton for King of America!!!!
Or, Hil, either one.
A joint monarchy, like William and Mary. Yah, that’s the ticket!
The government does impose term limits here.
I knew all along that he did not have all of that flush of millions of dollars from a bunch of video game players and college kids.
Anything by the elites to keep another Clinton out of the White House, who was and is for the middle class. Do we need another depression, and the global threat of communism to get someone in the White House who cares about the common middle class person?
The Bushes hated FDR and thought he was a traitor to his class. Now we have Jay Rockefeller and Kennedy and Kerry protecting their own.
We get this fraud of a democratic candidate, who is only made valid by his skin color and the excitement he engenders in the black community.
I keep seeing Kerry on TV from when I used to watch it saying “Ted and I know what’s best for the prty.”
Kerry does not care for the country! He knows Barack Obama is NOT qualified to be the POTUS, but just like the others, they ignore the middle class and lower.It’s the MIGHTY DOLLAR that rules!
SHALL WE LET DOWN AMERICA?
Hillary or McCain ‘08
Oh that reminds me, anyone seen the MSM headline that the Republicans have learned that DICK GEPHARDT–another failed prez candidate–is to be named Obie’s VP? Bwhaaaahaaaa!
Imagine the fun you could have with:
Barry/Dick 08
Just ask Larry
Geez, nobody wanted Gephart the first time around.
Or — he’s the only one who would accept??
Oh my — now that’s a winning team — NOT!
terri — that is about as exciting as watching paint dry. I knew Obama wouldn’t pick Hillary because she would upstage him. Gephardt is so white and boring he disappears in the atmosphere.
Hillary said not thanks..
no thanks…she listens..she heard us..
little money flows to big bundlers … no need to explain “who” the little donors are
Really, must we keep up this anti-Obama charade? When will we cease? There is a new lilt in the step of Americans and I for one am not going to do anything to stop it.
“Really, must we keep up this anti-Obama charade? When will we cease? There is a new lilt in the step of Americans and I for one am not going to do anything to stop it”
Really, must we keep up this anti-Bush charade? There is a uniter in office, and I for one am not going to criticize him one bit. (see dixie chicks)
f*ck obama.
That “lilt in the step of Americans” you see is actually a limp in the step of Americans hit hard by this new depression (stock market the worst since 1930) but you Obama supporters seemed to have miraculously escaped; could it be because you’re one of the elite groups contributing to his coffers?
I’ve never heard walking after being kicked in the crotch a ‘lilt’ before. Limp was good, stagger, shuffle is in there if you add in a constant moan…but ‘lilt’…
nope
There’s a new hole in America’s pocket, there’s a new for-sale sign on her house, a new car parked she can’t afford to move, a new tax bill with no new salary to pay for it, a whole new mama mia at the grocery check out, but a new lilt? Not so much.
Does this include all the unemployed college kids who live home sucking down heir parents’ retirement funds so that they might appear “Upscale”? The same unemployed people who miracululously donated $2300 that was slipped to them by Obama backers?
You’re joking - Obama is the worst thing to hit America. We are against Obama precisely because he is a charade.
I will not be part of a failed experiment, perpetuated by the MSM and the likes of Obama and supporters like you who clearly haven’t been thinking rationally. Or perhaps you think that you will reap bucket loads of extra special treatment from our affirmative action candidate.
Affirmative Action? Surely that applies to McWar who was the lowest performing in his class. Good how Daddies money helped.
The World does not need another educated by the will of daddy president.
Hey Everybody, look who’s on shift down a Troll Central!
The Brit Twit…
The ObamaLimey…
Britain’s answer to the Universal Sphincter Muscle…
YUKforDems!
Remember the insults we all threw at you yesterday?
I didn’t think so…
No, it applies only to Obama who received TWICE the number of delegates in every AA district during the Dem primary–compliments of Donna Brazile and Howard Dean. Also got 4 of Hillary’s ELECTED DELEGATES. Never got the popular vote or got enough elected delegates to clinch the nomination, had to be propped up by SDs.
John McCain is the only LEGITIMATE candidate in the race. At least he was elected by Republicans against the will of the RNC elite.
As Hillary pointed out it was a delegate race not a popular vote race.
Popular Vote Total
However the popular vote results
Obama 17,535,458 48.1%
Clinton 17,493,836 48.0%
Don’t know where you’re getting your (lying) numbers from, but Obama did not win the popular vote.
In addition, Obama got delegates he wasn’t entitled to because he didn’t win them (MI)- which favored Hillary.
So stop trying to rewrite history.
Oh, and just for your information since you obviously don’t read much, the new double delegates for AAs rule created by Donna Brazile is actually named the AFFIRMATIVE ACTION RULE by the DNC. Look it up for yourself.
That will so not end well. Who needs the fear of a civil war when there’s a potential race war looming over us this year.
So if we want to live in peace, we must submit to blackmail and vote Obama. Who needs fear mongering when we’ve got blackmail and threats of violence!
The world doesn’t pick America’s president. We don’t pick your prime minister. Don’t be trying to pick our president.
Of course who is US President has international interest. Your last choice sent 4000 of your soldiers, 1000 uk soldiers out to die - for what? How many Iraqis are dead for a war that has only benefited Texas oil barons - (of which the current President is one).
Your last choice of President has led the World to the brink of a great depression that will hit the World.
Your last choice of President has set the environmental agenda back 8 years.
I am not telling you how to vote - I am asking you to think do we really need 4 more years of those same policies?
By the way I am not some anti war liberal, I supported the war in Afghanistan - a war that we are now losing because we lost focus as a result of lies told by both Bush and Blair.
Watch who you’re accusing of voting for Bush. The same people who gave American and the world Bush, are now giving us Obama.
Because you may be blind, I will repeat that. The same people who gave American and the world Bush, are now giving us Obama.
So maybe you should step back and stop being such a racist. Just because Obama’s is around half black and is running as a Democrat, doesn’t mean he isn’t actually a Republican who registered as a “Democratic Candidate for an Election” in order to beat the Clintons and have a chance at winning the election in a year where anything running as Republican is at a huge disadvantage.
A Republican running as a Democrat is so very Rove. In fact, I have reason to believe Dean, Brazile, Reid and Pelosi are actually Republicans. They act like Republicans, cheat like Republicans, and steal like Republicans.
And funniest part about your worship of Obama, is the fact that your country printed that ” how can 53 million people that dumb?” when Bush won in 2004. Looks like the stupid is on the other foot today! You voted for Blair, too. What irony.
Preach!!
Obama is just another Bush. Just a Democrat Bush.
UKforDems = FastForward
who cares what this jackaRse sezz or thinks!
Dear god, you actually make me feel a little sad to be a country-man of yours.
Okay, can we have a history lesson. There once was a candidate called Bambi, he came to a disillusioned leftist party full of vim and vigour. The left saw him as a Messiah, a new politician, hope, things can only get better… yay!
It didnt matter that this man seemed to change his tune according to what was vogue at that moment, because we had to get rid of those nasty right wingers.
So many on the left stated time and time again, that Bambi was merely playing the middle-class, and when he got to power, as he surely would, he would be the leftist wonderful prime minister they so craved. Things indeed can only get better.
Question: How’d that turn out? How’s civil liberties in this country now? How’s tax? Who took us to war in Iraq? What happened to people like Kelly, thrown to the wolves by Cambell et at? Please tell me things really got better, please tell me the third way was a success?
Fast forward a few years, and Bambi Mk 2.
Are you so desperate to believe?
Do you actually believe for one moment Obama will pull America out of Iraq? My arse! Yes, I’m sure he will get into power and leave the multi-billion dollar bases empty, I’m sure he’ll turn round and leave pipe-lines and oil companies unsecured, I’m sure he’ll let the Kurdish people get slaughtered in a crush between Turks, Shia and Sunni. I’m sure he’ll click his heels three times and get everyone out… or perhaps, as Power indicated, he’ll suddenly find that things on the ground means we have to stay the course. Hasnt he already started saying how wonderful Petraeus is? Does Petraeus want out?
Obama bring with him cynicism and apathy, just like Blair did. He says what he says to get power, he believes in nothing, and will turn 180 at a moments notice. I’m pissed as its already started to happen, much to my chagrin my wife supported and voted for him in the primaries, now, after a week of pandering to the right she’s begun to realise… he’s no new politician, just the old type with a good PR company.
Here endeth the rant!
you pick your prime minister, we’ll pick the POTUS. I wont vote for obama. only losers who seek to follow an empty preist do.
Actually that is entirely untrue. Many of our allies refused to participate in the Iraq war. The fact that our president is the equivalent of a drunk driver doesn’t dismiss the Brits decision to get in the car with him. Why don’t you take a poll to see how many people on here voted for Bush? Has it EVER occured to you, that the people on this site are trying to avoid electing another “mistake”. How will you feel if you manage to sway a few voters and Obama turns out to be worse than Bush? What if the world begins to believe that the strongest nation in the world is soft on terrorism? What if one of these ME countries decides to lob a few weapons in your direction? They can reach you easier than us by the way. When you call on the US for help Obama says” I’ll have a talk with them”. How will you feel then? The question I need to ask you is: Why is someone who is without a vote, trying to sway voters? You are obsolved of the responsibilty of our vote. Why not just sit back and read and learn. To me you are an arm chair quarterback. Ever notice that the people who don’t play know what’s best?
Count this as one person who voted against Bush, Twice.
Make that absolved not obsolved.
No, but according to GW we DO pick their intelligence info over ours.
I wonder ….
News flash! NDB sitting on the presidents desk stating Iran…Hezzbollah….
BO….on the phone; Hey Dick not to upset the energy “industry”, but I was about to use my “actionable intelligence weapon” and didn’t want to upset our deal. What do you suggest?
Dick; errr..means you have to go hunting with Scalia and my friend who I shot.
BO Why?
Dick; You have to ask?
Dick; Look Obama I hate to break it to you but we had everything wired and if you can read directions and those executive orders, I can’t help you. Crap, now I got to call my buddies in Iran…and tell them the wedding’s off.
BO What wedding?
Dick; You have to ask?
BO But I have my actionable intelligence weapon!
Dick; You can’t use that at a wedding!!! The American people might find out.
BO; Find out what? The co-ordinates?
Dick; You half to ask?
No the FISA rule!
BO; What’s that?
Dick; Good god! You have to ask?
BO; Well Dick I am good and I am askin…
Dick; That’s funny, Auchi said that you were an idiot, ’cause you niether any action OR intelligence. Ah well…you had to ask.
click
Dick?
Well, McCain could have walked out of a Vietnam prison because he was the son of an Admiral. He didn’t. Instead he was there 5-1/2 years. Would you be able to do the same? I VERY MUCH DOUBT IT.
The problem is that the only reason he was flying was because of Daddy and the reason he got shot down was because he disobeyed orders to abort the mission.
Kerry was swift boated despite actually saving lives - McCain gets a clear path for his history.
And the only reason you’re spreading that SMEAR is because you are a racist and ageist. So that makes you a racist, ageist sexist pig.
Kerry is also a Skull&Bones freak like Bush, which is why Kerry threw the election in 2004. Feel free to support more stupidity and failure.
disobeyed orders to abort the mission
Sure…you know all about that do ya?
Well Bush’s Daddy kept him safely out of harm’s way in Texas. So you’re telling me that he was flying the most dangerous missions because of his Daddy? Interesting.
But you didn’t answer my question, did you? Well of course NO one can answer that question until they are living it, can they?
I’ve got to say attacking McCain on his military record HAS TO BE THE DUMBEST MOVE anyone could make….so continue on, please.
“I’ve got to say attacking McCain on his military record HAS TO BE THE DUMBEST MOVE anyone could make…”
Ain’t it the truth? Of ALL of the things Obama’s silly supporters in the Democratic party could possibly choose to insult McCain on, the stupidest was to insult his service in the military!!!
Especially with Obama currently representing a political party that has a LONG standing history of being known as bleeding-heart, weakling, limp-wristed, unpatriotic and cowardly liberals!
And THOSE are the people who insulted John McCain’s military record????
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
I seem to recall a pretty good precedent for attacking someones military record from the last presidential election. Besides that, how many planes did he crash before he got shot down? The maverick shouldn’t have been there anyway.
Yes, and John McCain defended Kerry. DEFENDED him. Keep attacking McCain’s military record though..you lose votes for BO every time you do it.
Street-Parade McCain stubbornly refused to to accept special treatment or curry favor to be released early, even when gravely ill. Mr. McCain knew the Vietnamese wanted the propaganda victory of the son and grandson of Navy admirals accepting special treatment. He refused to be corrupted.
There is a new lilt in the step of Americans and I for one am not going to do anything to stop it.
Who has a lilt in their step? Everyone I know is depressed over the price of gas, groceries and their high electric bills this month.
Oh, I know, it’s the rich information technologists who have a lilt in their step.
I think that is called goosestepping.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
I was gonna say it wasn’t a lilt, they’re just staggering drunk on Kool-Aid; but your goosestepping answer is way more accurate.
Bobo, in reply to ur question, “When will we cease?” When Barack Obama cease FOOLING US, THE VOTERS!When Obama stops his charade !When the cyber patriots win the war against DECEPTIONS OF OBAMA & HIS DIRTY, CORRUPT POLITICIANS !
When the REAL Obama is exposed and defeated.
When America gets the BEST QUALIFIED Presidential candidate, fair and square.
Then we cease, Bobo.
For the country,Bobo, vote Hillary or McCain ‘08!
More like a “goose-step”
Cabaret anyone? “Tomorrow belongs to me” song by the Hilter youth in the beer garden? No thanks!
correction sung not song
With all due respect to Mel Brooks:
The bots are buttoning up their brown shirts and pulling up their jackboots. :p
LOL!!!
I really like the movie “Cabaret” - it’s been a while since I’ve seen it. I definitely remember “Tomorrow Belongs To Me.” VERY eerie.
New lilt?
I hate to break it to you, but you’re delusional.
bobo — Charade about being anti-Obama? Are you kidding? We don’t want Obama to be President what part of that don’t you get?
Whoever Obama’s backers are, they have an infinite capacity for self-delusion, thinking they were going to get by with such a godawful candidate.
Goodbye rights, goodbye national anthem. He has his priorities and its clear country will come last.
Another attack not grounded in fact. Who really thinks that Obama will eliminate the national anthem? Only the small percent of Americans who do not exhibit an ounce of intellect, I would imagine.
So, you think he’ll keep the national anthem and do away with the Bill of Rights, eh? How does he stand on the Pledge? The flag pin he’s taken to wearing lately? Separation of Church and State?
We People of low intellect would like to know how a man with such wisdom regarding that little first amendment phrase plans to get around the Constitution on that issue? Or do we just dismiss that “faith based” promise as another of Bush’s precedent setting decisions to assist Obama in replacing our Constitution with his own political ideology without that pesky business of ratification.
$7/hr
LMAO!
Who would support a man that would turn his back on the family that raised him. and turn to his deadbeat father culture only. He will not be the first black president he will be the first half black president (there is nothing wrong with that, but for gods or (Obama’s) sakes what about his moms culture is that so disturbing to him he has to go to that racist church. He should go to a KKK rally and even everything out. he still has some identity problems.
SEC — in Obama’s own words — he would like to see less elections because they confuse people.
Only if people will let him destroy our FREEDOM for happiness, prosperity and PEACE!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL !
Hillary or McCain’08
Anthem to be replaced by a Coca Cola ad.
LOLOL!!!
Revised and updated July 2, 2008
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Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it’s curious that many within both the Democratic and Republican parties have ignored the actual elephant in the room this year. That would be Karl Rove, the G.O.P.’s longtime political strategist. Accused of rigging the two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe he’s gone off to write op-eds and give lectures on college campuses.
Not so. According to an article in Time magazine last November, Republicans were organized in several states to throw their weight behind frontrunner Senator Hillary Clinton’s principle rival for the Democratic nomination, Senator Barack Obama. While Rove’s name isn’t mentioned in the story, several former fundraisers and strategists for President Bush are identified. With the help of Wall Street investment firms, these gentlemen helped flush Obama’s coffers with cash early on in the race, something the conservative deep pockets had not done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the freshman senator achieved a remarkable feat, given he only first appeared on the national scene in 2004. In fact, the vast majority of Americans did not even hear of him until 2006.
To expedite the Rove strategy, a website and discussion forum called Republicans for Obama formed in 2006. The executive director of New Hampshire’s Republican Party, Stephen DeMaura, later established “Stop Hillary Clinton (One Million Strong AGAINST Hillary)” on Facebook. At the same time, the Obama camp launched its own initiative targeted at Republican primary voters called “Be a Democrat For a Day”. The campaign included a video that was circulated in Florida, Nevada, Vermont and elsewhere explaining the process of switching parties for the election. In addition, many states nowadays hold open primaries, allowing citizens to vote for any candidate, regardless of their party affiliation. In Nebraska, the mayor of Omaha publicly rallied Republicans and Independents to caucus for Obama on February 9th. In Pennsylvania, Time reported on March 19th that Obama was running radio ads in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia asking Republicans to register as Democrats and then vote for him in the state’s April 22nd primary.
The tactic, called crossover voting, allowed Obama to open up an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates. Republicans for Obama was certainly not bashful in making its case in an email appeal linked to its home page before the March 4th contests. “Since Texas has an open primary,” the appeal read, “Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama… Just think, no more Clintons in the White House.” Then there was Iowa, which held the nation’s first caucus on January 3rd. Here G.O.P. winner Mike Huckabee received just half as many votes as Clinton, who finished third behind Obama and John Edwards.
Of the 17 states holding open primaries, Obama won 13 of them. And an analysis of the caucus results to date shows that a disproportionate sum of delegates has been awarded to Obama, apparently by design of the Democratic National Committee. Oddly, red states - i.e. those who normally vote Republican in the general election - have been allowed to exercise undue influence on the process, a quirk that dovetailed nicely with G.O.P. strategy to knock Clinton out of the running before November. For instance, Obama’s 13,700 vote margin in the Nebraska caucus netted him 8 pledged delegates, whereas Clinton netted only 9 delegates from her whopping 204,000 vote victory in Ohio’s primary. In Texas, which holds both a primary and caucus, Obama gained 5 more pledged delegates than Clinton, despite the fact that she won the election by a 100,000 vote margin. And although Clinton won the Nevada caucus, the Obama camp managed to finagle more pledged delegates at the state convention held after the vote.
Such discrepancies certainly bring into context what Time meant when it titled its November story “Obama’s red state appeal.” Even with the full compliment of election-scamming tools available to them - phone bank sabotage, fake polling data, swiftboating, waitlisting, electronic voting equipment, Norman Hsu, etc. - G.O.P. operatives would be hard pressed to eclipse Clinton in a general election. By the end of 2007, she held a commanding lead in public opinion polls and boasted a large campaign war chest of her own. Thus, all the vote-rigging tricks known to man wouldn’t make much difference if the contest weren’t close, and in her case, it likely wouldn’t be. Several influential Republicans admitted as much in a February 11th story for Politico. At the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, also held in February, a single banner strung over the exhibits hall seemed to encapsulate the 2008 election strategy of the Republican Party. It read “Anybody but Hillary”.
On June 4th, that sentiment became reality when Clinton acquiesced to pressure from Democratic Party leaders and announced she would both supsend her campaign and endorse Obama. Her supporters angrily denounced the strong-arm tactics, claiming the Democratic National Committee was conspiring with the Obama campaign to subvert the nominating process. The New York senator had surged towards the end of the primary season, winning six of nine states, and looked to have a real chance of victory at the party’s August gathering in Denver. By contrast, Obama’s support was teetering in the wake of revelations about his long relationship with Pastor Jeremiah Wright of Trinity Church in Chicago, as well as his connection to convicted Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko and his circle of influence peddlers.
However, the issue of electability seemed the last thing on the minds of Democratic Party leaders. Citing the need for unity, DNC Chairman Howard Dean declared Obama the official nominee on June 3rd based on the input of superdelegates, a group of nearly 800 elected leaders and party officials who normally don’t vote until the convention. (That’s why they’re called delegates.) The Obama campaign immediately assumed control over the party apparatus and treasury, and much to the chagrin of Clinton activists and donors, also began contacting her donors for contributions and other support. In short, for the first time in U.S. history a winning candidate had been forced out of the race by means other than a bullet to the head
I still cannot understand why people are so upset that Obama just was a better strategist than Senator Clinton when it came to the delegate math. Blame advisors if you’d like, but Senator Obama ran an excellent primary campaign.
You have got to be:
a) Joking (poorly)
b) The largest moron ever
c) Palestinian
d) All of the above
You truly can’t come up with a better response than that? The mere fact that Clinton held on until June was a feat that very few others would be able to pull off, given the forces against her (as cited by Caligirl). And Obama can’t run anything (including his own mouth unless he has a teleprompter). He is a puppet on a string; the only question is who is pulling them? Axelrod, Soros, Farrakhan, the Syrians, or Rove?
A moronic Palestinian stand-up comic walks into a bar…
And declares himself the Democratic Nominee??
And Pakistan sets a couple of women on fire to celebrate.
Using thugs to physically threaten and intimidate caucus attendees supporting Hillary is not being a better strategist. Neither is disenfranchising voters and stealing delegates to which you are not entitled. It’s just being a crook; and yes, he’s much better at that than Hillary is.
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hey its worth it
thats one smart thing OBAMA DID hire 400 professional bloggers…
GOOD JOB ,
He was not a better strategist, he was awarded EXTRA delegates and MI and FL were screwed over by the DNC to GIVE Obama the nomination. He never did win it by any standards.
he’s not a better stragetist. he is an ahole. so shut up
BINGO!
OK, the Rep’s, under the hypnotic control of Carl Rove, the guy everyone says is so stupid for outing Plame, masterfully pull the strings and fool the entire Democratic party except for Dean, Obama and his Marxist cronies who are IN ON IT?
Ever since George the duece got elected, the Rep’s have been reeling. They’ve been unable to even find their damned bus.
(Hint: Shorter than usual, Bright Yellow) Now they’ve somehow trumped the Borgia’s for duplicity and have usurped the Democratic party?
YUKforDems know this one:
Pull the other… its got bells
1. WHO is Obama?
He is nothing but a empty suit,sexist,racist,opportunist,liar,snob,arrogant ,elitist,phony,and same old politician
2. WHO is his real BASE?
Frauds,lawyers.lobbists,barely 18-19 yr olds kid .people with jedi effect and people who believe “obama or die“and people who vote based on color rather whats best for our country.
and, perhaps most importantly,
3. HOW will we be able to tell?
The whole world knows but most are color blinded -meaning all they see is thier color ,some are -stuck in past slavery guilty,some are too dumb to know,some actually like the idea of having a stupid as in oval office so they can push thier agenda,some are just under jedi effectand on koolaid ,and some just get tingles in thier legs and forget to report the truth .
Or maybe, just maybe, his real base consists of those who believe that a change is needed in Washington, and the old politics of Clinton and McCain just aren’t what is needed.
Or maybe it’s just easier to demonize the millions of people who voted for them because you disagree with them.
OH BOY ….new word …demonize
thx god at least u guys let go “racist “word
it was not working any more anyway
Well, you called those who support Obama “frauds,” “lawyers,” “lobbists [sic],” “barely 18-19 year-old kids,” and a bunch of other words. That fits the definition of demonize to a tee.
which one is demonize–
Did Rezko support obama?
Do most 70%of all young people support obama?
Do 92%of black people vote for OBAMA/
so –speaking the truth is demonizing ?
wow—are those new rules of obamaland?
Best explanation for Obama winning the Primaries and the election to come.
u have selective reading skills..u forgot to copy and paste –rezko fraud ,,
plus look at the picture ,meaning the point ,i was making …
I think it was that you lumped frauds, lawyers, and lobbyists. (Although there probably isn’t anything wrong with being a lawyer. Maybe.)
My guess is that lobbyists would tend to support McCain more than Obama.
There’s nothing wrong with young people voting. Indeed, one of the reasons that we are seeing a resurgance of Democratic voters and Democratic values is because of young people. The problem is when they’re painted as “barely 18-19 year old kids.” For then, there is a casting of doubt on the legitimacy of their votes, as if they were unable to think for themselves.
And Democrats usually get the lion’s share of African-American votes, so having blacks as part of his base doesn’t bother me. They were a large part of President Clinton’s base as well.
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thats one smart thing OBAMA DID hire 400 professional bloggers…
GOOD JOB ,
KEEP IT UP
SO U DID BRING ONE OF UR FRIENDS FROM DAILYHATE ,,,GOOD JOB
OBAMA,S MONEY IS WELL SPENT ==
OR MAY BE NOT
CAUSE JUST LIKE 92%BLACK PEOPLE ,OUR MINDS R MADE UP —-
BUT THX FOR VISITING US HERE ,,
NOW ITS TIME FOR THE BLOGGER CONFERENCE CALL WITH OBAMA –THEY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YAAAA–BRO
I AM SORRY ,FATHER PFLEGER
The website Open Secrets illustrates exactly who is getting the big corporate $$. (Hint, it is not McCain).
And, 18/19 yos are really good at getting caught up in emotion, and a “movement”, and not using their critical thinking skills. I don’t hold it against them, BO (and his handlers) ran great psychological operation starting in 2004. The 18 to 20-something demographic is also less likely to actually vote in November.
“Best explanation for Obama stealing the Primaries - not the election to come.”
Just correcting your statement to reflect the truth.
SEC,:”Or maybe it’s just easier to demonize the millions of people who voted for them because you disagree with them.”
“Voted for them…” THEM?? How many did you vote for in the primary? TWICE or more than twice you were paid to vote for them??? You r really a Obamanite(money talks…gimme,gimme!)
Obama ran an EXCELLENT primary, according to ur previous post.U need to do some reading. The right words: “RIGGED,DECEPTION, INTIMIDATION,CORRUPTION,CHEATING!
If you love your country, vote for Hillary or McCain ‘08
SEC if Obama wants change why is he using most
of Clintons people to help him? sounds like
the same thing to me, just a change in name only!
Republicans in southern states with open primaries use the strategy to vote for whomever they perceive as the easiest Democratic candidate to beat. My Georgia cousins report that they all lined up to vote for Obama because they know he can’t win in the GE. The black vote is not a majority in any of the southern states.
They aren’t especially fond of McCain but they detest Hillary. Frankly, I can’t figure that one. I’ve always supported Hillary beginning with the first Clinton campaign in ‘92. Can’t have a rational conversation with them about Clintons. Sad. They believe the entire south will go Republican with ease.
Same in Texas. Lotta Repubs voted FOR Obama cuz they thought he’d be easier for McCain to beat in November.
But they wouldn’t dream of voting Obama in November.
It’s McCain all the way.
Everything “new” isn’t good.
And everything “old” isn’t bad.
Wise people know and understand this. And foolish, stupid people don’t.
Obama lies in his ad:
The ad begins with the announcer telling us that Obama “worked his way through college and Harvard Law.” Actually, Obama took out loans to get himself through college, as we heard in a 60-second ad his campaign began running last month. We don’t know how much assistance his family provided.
But “worked his way” through college and law school? The only back-up the campaign provided for this claim was a quote from Obama’s book “Dreams from My Father” having to do with a construction job he had one summer while he was in college, and an article mentioning his job as a summer associate one year at a big Chicago law firm. We asked campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor if Obama held jobs during the school year, or other summer jobs, but he said only, “He had the two jobs I told you about.” Unless Obama had a good bit more employment than his spokesman was able to describe for us, it’s a real stretch to claim he “worked his way” through school.
If he, indeed, worked to pay off his loans, then his comment is factually correct.
If you’d like to argue against Obama, wouldn’t it be better to use substance instead of things such as this? You’ll have much more of an impact in getting others to vote for someone than Obama. Most people that I know of would see a complaint such as that, roll their eyes, and go on with their life, their opinions unchanged.
SHOULD WE BE ON TROLL ALERT?IS THERE MORE WHERE U CAME FROM ?U KNOW -DAILYHATE SITE.
Probably not. I’ve been coming to this site for a long time. I find it refreshing to get opinions from a variety of websites, from the far left to the far right to many in between. Just thought I’d speak up today, is all.
and u make sure,u answer every comment on this site except the ones which r in favor of UR WAFFLES !!!
WOW —-
There are some objections to Obama that are worth mentioning and worth exploring. Then, there are others that are no more than right-wing conspiracy theories. Those that deserve exploring get my attention. Those that do not deserve exploring show nothing but the sour grapes of those who do not have anything else productive to say.
Once you pods bcome totally upset with Obama throwing you under the bus,you can join us, or if your vote is to protest you treatment then simply pull the lever for Nader.
It would honestly take a lot more than what I’ve seen so far to vote for Senator McCain. His presidency - that would be frightening.
Still leaves a progressive like Nader an option.
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thats one smart thing OBAMA DID hire 400 professional bloggers…
GOOD JOB ,
NO GO TO FOX NEWS –SHH SHHH SHH SSHUU
And I’m not one.
Just a regular guy. Here’s what I wrote a few months ago on my blog:
http://www.xanga.com/ScottEmerson/640760514/item.html
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BUT THX FOR VISITING US HERE ,,
NOW ITS TIME FOR THE BLOGGER CONFERENCE CALL WITH OBAMA –THEY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YAAAA–BRO
SEC = FastForward [yawn]
who cares what latest jackass SEC thinks, says or does!
wow–worth ur exploring ..
what u think –u r –BILL GATES..
OH NO –OBAMABOT–$7/HR
well ,i tell ,u r the best,professional,disciplined bot ever on this site .
keep it coming bro—
Nah, just a minister from Florida who believes that dialogue is a good thing. Competing view points are a good thing. We live in a pluralistic society, and thus, we can agree to disagree.
I actually think that there are several types of arguments that can be made against Obama that would inspire more people to join your cause. Many of the ones that have been found on this site are not those types of arguments.
Thanks for the compliment though (I think it was a compliment.) If anything, I’m fine keeping others on their toes.
you MINISTER
SLOW DAY –FATHER ……
GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY…….
UPPS I MEAN “GOD DAMN AMERICA“WINK–WINK–
U NOT FRIENDS WITH MR WRIGHT ….u know who i am talking about ,right ,i am talking about obama,s father figure,uncle,mentor and his co-humper…..
I’ve actually studied black liberation theology, so I didn’t have as much of a problem with several of the things that Wright spoke about. I may disagree with it, but Wright was being faithful to a theological system that he believes in. I also took time to look at the comments in context, and I know that the Bible does make statements that the inhabitants of the country can make good choices and be blessed by God and they can make bad choices and be cursed.
I disagreed with what he did at the Press Club, though. He’d probably be somebody that I could have coffee with, but I don’t think I’d go to his church.
u stdied black —–
okay
then i just wasted my f**king 30 min on u for nothing
b/c once u done that —-ur mind is only stuck on “OBAMA OR DIE“`
MY BAD …MY APOLOGIES ..I WON,T SAY ANYTHING TO U ANYMORE—-
BUT STILL —GOD HELP US EVEN MORE NOW–
One can study something without espousing it. My guess is that it actually helps us with what we really do believe. Again, we live in a pluralistic society, for better or for worse. That means that people can have their own opinions and don’t have to agree with one point of view.
I know people who have studied black liberation theology who would not vote for Obama because of their feelings of that theology. I do know that from what I’ve studied, Obama is not a Marxist. One can have doubts about his Christianity (or his types of Christianity), but one cannot concurrently be a Marxist and a follower of Christ, even just a professed one. It’s philosophically impossible.
$7/hr
NOW ITS TIME FOR THE BLOGGER CONFERENCE CALL WITH OBAMA –THEY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YAAAA–BRO
SEC, your are not nope - sorry- no. Clearly, you do not have a PhD in the subject. I know this is the Internet and we can all exaggerate, but c’mon!! Honestly unless you got your ordination on-line, you are not the graduate of any accrediated divinity school.
Oh Yeah, here we go. The point where they tell us their imaginary qualifications. Oh, I am a Minister, oh I studied liberation theory, oh, my reletive is black. They are bloviating again.
Isn’t this the Daily Hate site? This site has spewed nothing but vile bigotry for months. During the Primaries - not how to help Hillary to win, but how the evil Obama was winning. Now it is how the evil Obama is the “affirmative action” candidate. Well your bigotry did not work during the Primaries and it will not work now. Oh and look who will get the credit for paying off the Clinton debt - given Obama has offered to help.
wellllll
ummm uhh umm i was saying ummm uhhh uhh uhh
in obamaland —anybody whoever speaks against obamais umm uhh racist –ya know bro–unnn umm uhh
r we spewing hate—
umm uhh yeah may be 1% comapre to 99%of dailyhate –
so by all means –dailyhate is the winner ,,
u happy now …
go read ur books ,,now
UKforDEMS
“Well your bigotry did not work during the Primaries and it will not work now.”
Senator Obama’s campaign race-baits. As one of his Squeeleresque, thoughtpolice lackeys, you do the same. The only difference between you and the BNP is who you would choose to put in the ovens.
Bigot, one who is obstinately and zealously attached to an opinion that you do not entertain.
Look troll, now that you have Londistan. why don’t you have a Asian for your Prime Minister. Work on that instead of worrying about our election.
Are you trying to weaken the US
UKforDems - I do quite resent your calling me and many of Hillary’s supporters racist. I’m a person of color, I know many other communities - Indian, Asian, Black, Hispanic, Native and gay - who have experienced racial discrimination and intolerance all their lives.
Are you an expert in racism simply because you support Obama? For those of us who live our lives being victims of institutionalized racism, I believe we know racism when we see it - true or false. We’re not the racists. Obama and his supporters are liars.
If you could just wrap your mind around the idea that our vehement dissatisfaction with Obama has nothing to do with race, I would imagine your head would explode.
Why does Obama support the death penalty? If there is any place in American society where racism is still hugely apparent it is in the sentences given to convicted black men, up to an including the ultimate sentence of death. Yet Obama supports it. Why?
Isn’t working/interning in a law firm a requirement to gradute?
My step-mother had to.
So, that leaves one summer of working in the construction field….to work his way through law school? LOL
That is stretching factual correct to the limit!
oops…graduate
Oh brother, can you just picture bo with a hammer? No
Well, if that “lilt in the footstep of Americans” is the lockstep I perceive it to be then the war against this candidate is imperative and has only just begun.
There are a few of us in the hinterlands who have not been sipping the Kool-aide. And we will do everything we can to stop the slide into Obamaland.
PUMApac.org
The lockstep you speak of shares the same name as Maverick’s navigator in Top Gun.
I said months ago that all of these people who are supporting Obama, particularly the lower income blacks, are going to have a rude awakening if he’s elected. Those rich people haven’t given him all of that money for nothing. He’s going to be in their pockets just as much, if not more, than George W. Bush is in the oil industry’s pocket.
So, I am curious then SEC, what exactly (specifically) appeals to you about Sen. Obama’s platform and positions?
One of the things that first attracted me to Obama’s campaign was the idea that change can be more effective coming from the ground up. There’s nothing wrong with inspiring people to believe in a future that is greater than the present and encouraging people to get involved.
I was struck during the primary campaign at how many times other candidates used terms such as “I” and “me,” while Obama used terms such as “we” and “us.” I do not agree with many of Obama’s issues. He’s more conservative than me on gun control, by a long shot. He’s more liberal than me on abortion rights. I agree with his stances on civil rights, on the need to get out of Iraq, and I like what he has to say on energy and the economy, especially compared to McCain. I may be one of the few people who appreciate what he’s trying to do in utilizing faith-based community organizations to help others. I’m a minister, so that shouldn’t be too much of a surprise.
I just cannot fathom another four years of failed Republican policies. Even if Obama turns out to be a mediocre president, that would still be preferable than a tragic presidency.
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OBAMA,S MONEY IS WELL SPENT ==
OR MAY BE NOT
CAUSE JUST LIKE 92%BLACK PEOPLE ,OUR MINDS R MADE UP —-
BUT THX FOR VISITING US HERE ,,
NOW ITS TIME FOR THE BLOGGER CONFERENCE CALL WITH OBAMA –THEY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YAAAA–BRO
I AM SORRY ,FATHER PFLEGER
look you are a troll. you think that by trying flowery words and telling lies that you can cover your craven purpose. underneath all tha jovial bull is a wild eyed obamabot. confront and watch.
A minister? No wonder you’re fine with him being a liar. Anyone can say “we” and “us”. If it’s that easy to get your support, then you shouldn’t be allowed to vote based on reckless stupidity. You can also admit that you fell for Bush’s “uniter” rhetoric, and voted for him. Anyone who refuses to learn from their mistakes in voting should have their vote suspended until they learn to stop being so purposely stupid and willing to punish everyone else because you get a “feeling” or decide something so trivial as using the word “we” is somehow the answer to the country’s problems.
But then again, you are a “minister”, so as long as he promises to fight abortion and continue Bush’s faith-based pandering, you’re sold.
All of this is, of course, assuming you are NOT a paid troll.
Have fun making more stupid decisions for the entire country…AGAIN! lol
SEC,
I believe that you are sincere in your reasons for being here and your reasons for supporting Obama. I live in the Chicagoland area. I have heard all of this before from Obama. When he says “us” and “we”, you are the farthest thing from his mind. “Us” and “we” are his Chicago buddies, not the citizens of Chicago (Or the US). Have you ever done any research on Obama and Chicago politics? Illinois is the most politically corrupt state in the country. Do a quick search on “Board Games”, “Pay to Play”, and “Hired Truck Scandal”, there are many others but this should keep you busy for awhile. The one question I have for any Obama supporter is this: How did Obama reach the top of the biggest pigstye in American government without getting anything on him? How did he win his senate seat in a heavily Farakhan influenced district without Farakhan’s help? He didn’t. How did he manage to go from part-time and ineffective State Senator to Us Seanator without the help of the Chicago Machine? He didn’t. You know that he was losing in his senate race until his opponents divorce proceedings went public right? How did that happen? Obama is up to his eyeballs in the Chicago Machine. The one thing I can tell you without a moments hesitation is: They do not care about you. I personally agree that a lot of the things said about Obama are a bit “over the top”, however knowing what I know, by living where I live, My motto is “Whatever it takes”. I don’t care how this mistake is avoided, just that IT IS avoided. If it’s a bogus birth certificate or a “whitey tape”. That’s cool with me.
That’s a lot of assumptions there. How do you know Obama will be merely mediocre? How do you know he won’t be spectacularly bad? Based on what kind of records are you making this claim? Because I’m not the only one who is puzzled by what Obama stands for and who has no clue what he has done. We know he is inexperienced. We know he has flip-flopped too many times. We know he has pandered his lips off. We also know he did nothing while his constituents froze to death in the slums that his political contributors built. That’s what we know.
Think about it. You’re assuming that just because Obama is a “Democrat” his presidency won’t be tragically bad. It has no logical basis.
Well, he used to believe in gun control (as an IL state senator), until he didn’t (as a Presidential candidate).
He made one speech against the war (as an IL state senator) and was never heard from again, until he started running in the primaries where he was against it (even though he had voted to fund it) and now that the general has begun he’s moving away from his anti-war position (or at least he led Iraq’s Prime Minister to believe so).
McCain’s energy policy is much more thought out and comprehensive than Obama’s. I’m against handing out tax dollars to churches (it’s nothing by pork barrel politics) so we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
I don’t think either one of them has a clue what to do about the economy, but the situation is so bleak NOBODY does…so I won’t ding either one of them on that.
All the rest of the stuff you mention is just a lot of hopey / changey new-age junk, so it means nothing to me. If it works for you, okay.
take a breather — its hard to keep bypassing your posts but I will try.
Funny enough, his base is asking the same thing.
campaign finance
FISA
church/state
And, of course, the biggie, Not a Politician.
My question is this: when will it be enough for the Superdelegates to grow spines? They can still vote for Hillary in Denver …
Who is Obama?
He is a typical ambitious politician who achieves power through pay-to-play.
Who is is real base?
Obama said the first person he consulted about running for president was James Crown. General Dynamics is the base that gets him elected. He has a significant base from Chicago as well. People who will profit from a different set of polices than the citizenry in housing, healthcare, banking and energy.
How will we be able to tell?
The size and scope of the creation of the myth of Obama tells you that the answer to number 2 is correct.
I forgot to add to question #1 that Obama is the biggest distraction in history. Hard to recall that before this circus began we were concerned with how the nation had been taken to war, the independence of the Justice Department, the honesty of defense contracting, the fairness of our elections, the freeness of our press, the integrity of our financial system, etc. Now we are only concerned with whether we demonstrate a sufficient loyalty to The One. It’s brilliant.
Isn’t it too sad that instead of our being able to spend our time talking about Hillary, we have to expend so much energy on this miserable narcissist? He’s such a simpleton really and has no depth whatsoever. I doubt he knows who he is really other than translucent caricature dwelling in his own deluded imaginary landscape.
“Not a Thru Street” comes to mind.
Democrats, it’s not too late to change your mind.
Maybe because he is the presumptive Presidential Candidate and she is back to being the Junior Senator from New York.
She may be back in the Senate now, but if this drip-drip-drip erosion of everything Obama stands for continues, she just may pull this off.
Go HILLARY!
Go Hillary!
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OBAMA,S MONEY IS WELL SPENT ==
OR MAY BE NOT
CAUSE JUST LIKE 92%BLACK PEOPLE ,OUR MINDS R MADE UP —-
NOW ITS TIME FOR THE BLOGGER CONFERENCE CALL WITH OBAMA –THEY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR YAAAA–BRO
I AM SORRY ,FATHER PFLEGER
Just curious, are you retarded?
You say that like it’s an insult.
Them’s fightin’ words from an admittedly foreign troll.
Piss off and go back to your plans to try to blow up another subway, scumbag. You have been posting here for quite a while and have yet to add to the conversation, so buh bye!
Hillary will continue working hard for you and for all of us! She has proven that for many decades, as a high school campaign volunteer, as a college activist,as the First Lady of Arkansas, as First Lady of the USA and as US Senator.She is an outstanding role model.
She has shown dignity and grace during this primary season, which was under the control of the media and corrupt opponent & politicians.
SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON IS THE MOST QUALIFIED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE !
Hillary of McCain ‘08
Obama is just symbolism over substance. When he goes
to Europe just be one of the idiots in the crowd that faints after you touch his robe. Just make sure your on pavement.
“Maybe because he is the presumptive Presidential Candidate and she is back to being the Junior Senator from New York.”
Don’t worry - Obama will be “back to being the Junior Senator” from Illinois in January 2009. We’ll see to that in November.
That is - until the good citizens of Illinois fire Obama in November 2010.
Yep. I keep saying: if Obama wins the White House by running as a Republican, I’m not sure what the Democrats gain.
Worse, I have no idea anymore what core principles the Democratic party stands for.
He’s been backed by so many Republicans, it is astounding how utterly stupid certain people are about him. This is WHY Obama supporters are accused of being a cult. Only cultists excuse that kind of treachery as long as they can see him on TV for at least four years smiling and looking fug…ahem, handsome.
Barack Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics.
What we gain are two low class people occupying the White House and a world full of hate.
Most of us with any sense knew college students were not his main source of funds. The question here is, why in the world would you want a President who will waffle so easily for a vote or dollar? Where is the guy’s backbone? I mean, extending the “faith base initiatives”? Come on! It is still stunning to me that the Democratic Party is going to nominate this goofball over Senator Clinton. And, just for the record: I may be in a minority here, but I have never thought Obama articulate. Stuttering, shrugging, changing the subject, dodging questions, brushing off his shoulders or people is not my idea of being articulate. He cannot speak without index cards, notes or tele prompter.
You forgot boring!
I read that Obama worked for 20 years to pay off his loans. The payoff for student loans are only extended for 10 years, maximum.
That fact alone causes doubt to the truth of his story. Since the Obamas records are sealed until after the election (WTF - we need to know who we’re voting for BEFORE the election) we may never know.
Did anyone read the recent coverage on AOL of Obama’s sister’s campaining on his behalf to the Asian community? She was describing her big brother, among other things, as not getting “the best grades” in school.
How did he get into Harvard?
His father went to Harvard. He is a legacy…just like Bush and probably filled an affirmative action slot to boot. He is not real bright. not stupid, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I heard he was never offered a clerkship or a position at a big law firm because he was not the brilliant law student he purports to be. Even though he pretends to have turned this stuff down to return to Chicago to work in the community. He actually had no choice but to go back and get involved in the pay to play schemes of Chicago politics that Rezko and also Michelle were involved with.
hell he never wrote for the spot on got in law school that was supposed to be so prestigeous. he never really practiced law. i haven’t seen one person come forward from his days as a so called organizer in chicago. he never did anything in the ill legislature. he put his name on others’ work. he never did anything in congress. he was given a plum committee assignment and never held a meeting. so tell me, why in the hell would anyone vote for this fool.
Silly me, I thought he took a fellowship from the University of Chicago because they were trying to recruit him to their law school faculty - you might have heard of the result: Dreams of My Father. And do you honestly believe the first African American president of the law review couldn’t write his own ticket you are delusional. He chose a different path and give you are griping about him he’s done very well.
murray — we should call him Obamalies — because every word out of his mouth is a lie.
You do realize that everyone who has had student loans for over 10 years know that you are sadly mistaken.
http://www.salliemae.com/after_graduation/manage_your_loans/repaying-student-loans/starting_repayment/extended_repayment.htm
Extended repayment
Make monthly payments that are as low as interest-only for the first few years or monthly payments of principal and interest. With extended repayment, you may have up to 25 years to repay your federal student loans.
Besides that, he didn’t even say it took over 10 years to pay off - he said nearly a decade.
During a speech in Iowa, during the primary, Michelle said they relied on her mother, who had a railroad pension, for financial help. I guess some buy into this “average Joe” spill! Yeah, right, his donors were slipping twentys into the coffers! Let’s not forget the pro-players and entertainment gang!
Michelle’s father worked at the James W Jardine Water Purification Plant, Chicago, Illinois. Nobody works at that plant without clout. The fact that Michelle grew up poor and underprivledged is laughable at best. Many, many, many, people would love to work at that plant.
Maybe you can get John McCain a job there.
Sounds disgruntled.
Um, you misunderstood. She said she relied on her mother for help with her daughters. Nice, a feminist lying about motherhood and childcare. No wonder your candidate lost - wait, she didn’t lose. She’ll be entering the election in December.
=Obama is now ego centered instead of solution driven. He is all talk and lacks a real game plan. You will hear this in his upcoming interviews.
Is this Michelle? Are you still clinging to your prediction that Hillary will win?
Hillary will not concede and drop out. Hillary is reserving her right keep her delegates so she can reverse her suspension and take her bid for Presidency all the way to the Democratic National Convention in Denver August 25-28.
That is our only hope. Otherwise we’re stuck with McCain for 4 years.
NOBAMA, NOHOW, NOTIME, NOWAY!
How’s that workin’ for ya?
She already did - it has been in the news you know. Did you miss it?
“The steady gaze of my own conscience”
Almost 100 years ago Dr. Alfred Adler coined the term “superiority complex” to mean anyone who exaggerates his own self worth and abilities to hide feelings of inferiority. Barack Narcissus Obama is gazing upon his own reflection and everything about him and his campaign is a lie.
Are you kidding? This complex applies to the whole PUMA movement.
I keep waiting for Obama to shoot himself in the foot with the gun he’s bringing to a knife fight in Philadelphia.
I wouldn’t be upset if he aimed higher. Except he’d probably blame Hillary.
If you’re a Philadelphian then you know to lock your doors and don’t get shot on Septa. Plenty of people getting shot in Philly these days.
Go Eagles
“Obama doesn’t believe any of the things he is now saying to woo the ‘redneck states’”…..
How can anybody who has been paying the slightest bit of attention believe him? And I must say, especially the evangelicals. They were used shamelessly by the Republicans in the last two elections. I would think they would be extremely wary of any politician who comes pandering to them. Only thing is, most of them seem to have a deep aversion to John McCain, which is probably why Obama thinks it is worth his while to court them.
All in all, I prefer the Webster Tarpley/Lyndon LaRouche theory fingering Soros as the driving force behind the Democrats’ insanity. I haven’t come across any comments anywhere giving any reasons at all why anyone should doubt his influence in this election. And if he has influence over the nomination and the election, he will certainly have influence in the aftermath.
Of course, even Soros wouldn’t have that much influence unless he were able to control the Party elders like Kerry, Kennedy, Dodd, Hart, Bradley, Carter, Brzezinski, Richardson, and various other assorted opportunists and Clinton turncoats.
Disgusting! This whole business has reached a new low.
It stinks to high heaven!!!!
100 Evangelical leaders met Tuesday in Denver and “agreed to support McCain…
http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/02/conservative-christian-leaders-agree-to-rally-around-mccain/
TIME: About 100 leaders meeting in Denver Tuesday decided throw their support behind McCain despite a long held distrust for the presumptive GOP nominee
One says: “Collectively we feel that he will support and advance those moral values that we hold much greater than Obama, who in our view will decimate moral values.”
The group included long-time Eagle Forum head Phyllis Schlafly, Charisma mag publisher Steve Strang, activist Phil Burress, among others.
Plus: David Brody reports McCain will send a taped message to the National Right to Life Convention that starts Thursday in Washington, D.C.”
I wonder if Steve Strang is related to Cameron Strang…I wrote about in this post:
Part 1: Obama’s Conservative Meeting Guests–Non-Pastors
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/part-1-obamas-conservative-meeting-guests-non-pastors/
Update on Steve Strang…he is NOT related to Cameron Strang….Steve Strange supported Huckabee and now supports McCain…
Gloria — doesn’t look like Obama is going to get the Christian Right. These people will go with someone they know rather than a new face. Obama really thought he could leave the Libs under the bus while he kissed up to the right. There are more of us under the bus then support him. Yesterday it came out that he also left the DLC under the bus too. The are a more moderate to conservative wing of the Democratic Party. Well Obama said he needed checks more than voters. In that he’s telling the truth.
Michelle simply can’t help herself, she bashes Barack again.
Guess what? That link now leads to an empty page…
the “not there” message…
Following are some interesting excerpts from an Editorial in today’s Wall Street Journal
Bush’s Third Term
Editorial
Wall Street Journal
July 2, 2008
We’re beginning to understand why Barack Obama keeps protesting so vigorously against the prospect of “George Bush’s third term.” Maybe he’s worried that someone will notice that he’s the candidate who’s running for it.
Most Presidential candidates adapt their message after they win their party nomination, but Mr. Obama isn’t merely “running to the center.” He’s fleeing from many of his primary positions so markedly and so rapidly that he’s embracing a sizable chunk of President Bush’s policy. Who would have thought that a Democrat would rehabilitate the much-maligned Bush agenda?
Take the surveillance of foreign terrorists. Last October, while running with the Democratic pack, the Illinois Senator vowed to “support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies” that assisted in such eavesdropping after 9/11. As recently as February, still running as the liberal favorite against Hillary Clinton, he was one of 29 Democrats who voted against allowing a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee reform of surveillance rules even to come to the floor.
Two weeks ago, however, the House passed a bill that is essentially the same as that Senate version, and Mr. Obama now says he supports it. Apparently legal immunity for the telcos is vital for U.S. national security, just as Mr. Bush has claimed. Apparently, too, the legislation isn’t an attempt by Dick Cheney to gut the Constitution. Perhaps it is dawning on Mr. Obama that, if he does become President, he’ll be responsible for preventing any new terrorist attack. So now he’s happy to throw the New York Times under the bus.
Mr. Obama has also made ostentatious leaps toward Mr. Bush on domestic issues. While he once bid for labor support by pledging a unilateral rewrite of Nafta, the Democrat now says he favors free trade as long as it works for “everybody.” His economic aide, Austan Goolsbee, has been liberated from the five-month purdah he endured for telling Canadians that Mr. Obama’s protectionism was merely campaign rhetoric. Now that Mr. Obama is in a general election, he can’t scare the business community too much.
This week the great Democratic hope even endorsed spending more money on faith-based charities. Apparently, this core plank of Mr. Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” is not the assault on church-state separation that the ACLU and liberals have long claimed. And yesterday, Mr. Obama’s campaign unveiled an ad asserting his support for welfare reform that “slashed the rolls by 80 percent.” Never mind that Mr. Obama has declared multiple times that he opposed the landmark 1996 welfare reform.
Most important is the matter of Mr. Obama’s political character — and how honest he is being about what he truly believes. His voting record in the Senate and in Illinois, as well as his primary positions, would make him the most liberal Presidential candidate since George McGovern in 1972. But he clearly doesn’t want voters to believe that in November. He’s still the Obama Americans don’t know.
Obama is a politically opportunist - he votes present until he knows which way the opportunity blows and then he conveniently goes in that direction.
same behavior, different times. he’s been doing the same thing since he’s been in the IL Senate.
How we are on the verge of repeating the last eight years with someone who is essentially Bush’s black brother, is so astounding. It really is epitomized with the saying “I don’t know whether to laugh or cry!”
Obama is George W. Bush with a black face. He really thinks the American people are going to vote for another Bush — one that pretends to be a Democrat. We have to tell him the Republicans have those videos and will use them 24/7 to show what a fraud he is.
The Orange stain (a.k.a. KOS) must be so proud the be supporting another George Bush!! a.k.a. Obama.
We’ve been saying this all along — Obama is GWB’s twin.
Funny how he can manage to be the “most liberal senator” and GWB’s twin at the same time. Does that mean GWB is a liberal?
We’ve heard BHO off script (and uhmmmmmmmmmm teleprompter) and he’s uhmmmmmmmmm awful.
He was for NAFTA in Ohio, but the next week in San Francisco he was against bitter trade clinging folks and still wouldn’t get his pic taken with a former gay mayor although he says (situationally) he’s really pro gay…
BHO even does impersonations of MLK and JFK depending on the audience.
His constant change is dizzying and he’s a chameleon/changeling/shapeshifter.
Like a criminal defendant constantly attempting to explain his bad behavior when BHO gets busted: “It wasn’t me, it was my aide, my Grandmother’s racist, etc.
BHO is THE ONE - THE ONE STATE WONDER AFTER THE 2008 VOTES ARE COUNTED.
Lucky for him the dead still vote early and often in Chicago.
They also know how to campaign and caucus in Chicago a skill that escaped many political candidates even though they were born in Chicago and had been through the process before.
Such great support for Obama from Wall Street means one thing to me, the privatization of social security. Anybody agree?
Yes. His major advisor on this issue is absolutely for privatization.
babs — Could be — The Dems don’t care to save it any longer.
Well that quote is either a blatant lie, or Obama’s inner eye really needs glasses…
Faith based organizations???? You are surprised???? The history, heart and soul of black politics is rooted in the black church (count the Rev.s who make up the who’s who). Many of these men and women from Black churches paid heavy dues. But faith based initiatives under GWB have been a whole new ball game. Black churches have been major winners in faith based politics. Look at TUCC. Obama will not only continue this GWB practice, look for these initiatives to expand. These are also some of the most corrupt public give-aways in the US. It will get worse. Republicans bought church support with this pork barrel and they are going to be very sorry when they have to turn it over to the Dems who will make Republican largess look like Scrooge.
I’ve got the whitey tape and I’m going to release it on July 4.
Austan Goolsbee, maybe he’s sleeping in the Canadian embassy. In any event he seems to have been replaced by Jason Furman phd, Brookings Institute director, with ties to the Clinton administration & in my opinion a more reasoned person than Goolsbee. Furman made his 1st attache appearance on Larry Kudlow’s show tonight & announced he thinks “Obama can accomplish his economic goals by only raising taxes on cap gains to 20%, uh, uh, 24%??? (inaudible)…”–a far sight better than the ole fightin’ words of 28% that many say have helped cast a dark cloud over an already troubled Wall St. & keepin’ me awake at night. Do I believe him? I’m tryin’.
Whoops, I just googled Jason Furman & POLITICO has a June 9th post that says Goolsbee is staying onboard as an unpaid advisor & to work with (for) Furman. Also of interest: Furman has worked on both Wes Clark & John Kerry’s failed presidential bids.
UKforDems = FastForward
SEC = FastForward
waste-o-time jackasses both
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Meanwhile in other (OT?) news,
isn’t the Credentials Committee meeting on Monday, July 7th?
To everyone who said Kerry lost because he was swift-boated, that is wrong. Democrats would like to believe that but it isn’t true. He lost because he talked down to us and not to us. He acted like he was better than us. I’m from Ohio, the swing state that won it for Bush.
Obama will lose this election because he keeps changing positions like the last 2 Democrats did. He becomes untrustworthy. Bill Clinton kept his positions all the way through.
He’s not a liberal. Even voting with the Democratic Party 100% of the time doesn’t make you a liberal or a progressive. (For comparison’s sake, see Kucinich, or Edwards.) Anyone who’s read his books or watched him in action can see that he supports many policies favored by the neocon wing of the Republican Party. It’s not like this is some big secret or tinfoil conspiracy; it’s all right out there in the open. Look at his economic advisors; look at his close relationships with people like Doug Kmiec; look at his contributors. He’s not “shifting” to the right, he was always there.