Is Democracy “Free For All”? (Video)

I am trying to think of something smart to say…….I’ll have to come back

How did it go from Rove in 2000

To pimply faced college kids in 2008

Thats unbelievable is it not Duck?

They have too much time on their hands HOPING Mama wont throw them out so that they could CHANGE their lives.

Does Obama pay you guys in that Hopie Dopie you’re smoking or does he actually pay you money also?

Has anyone heard this new radio ad air yet?

Obama - Sinclair Radio Ad #0127

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fdA0DNr7aBs

Barry hasn’t unsmeared this one yet??
Why not Barry?.. you did so good with the whole birth certificate thing…

Obama Lies Again, Maybe We Should Believe Larry Sinclair

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY

Digg this to bring awareness to millions of Hillary Supporters. Nobama.

Please be Advised: Obamabot Territory
http://digg.com/politics/PUMA_s_Declaration_of_Objections

So does this mean BO will steal the 2008 election with his ACORN tactics?

Lady Boomer:

Thanks for posting this video! We’d better get our shit together now. We don’t want to have McCain steal the election from HILLARY! Those chickens are getting closer to their home every day.
Ba-waaaaaaack!

New information on the birth certificate:

http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/05/obama-birth-certificate-total-forgery-fake-fraud-kos-kaught-in-krime/#more-27434

I watched part of the film, but it stopped when the lady running against Blackwell said…”did such a good job”

This was very interesting, wish I could have seen all of it.

This is a good quote by Will Bower:
“From the instant that he felt that the Democratic nomination was in his hands, Obama has moved relentlessly to the right in a breathtaking, stunning exhibition of cynicism, duplicity, and fraudulent campaigning. Everything he stood for has been thrown overboard, and Obama has broken his verbal contract with his own core voters and donors.”

The Orange Monster hosts another forger:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/4/161948/5353/488/546668

Mr. O says Bush has not committed an impeachable offense:

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

“I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president’s authority,” he said.

“I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction,” he added. “We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

Instead, Mr. O thinks Bush and his cohorts had “really dumb policies”:

The question was inspired by a recent report by ABC News, confirmed by the Associated Press, that high-level officials including Vice President Dick Cheney and former Cabinet secretaries Colin Powell, John Ashcroft and Donald Rumsfeld, among others, met in the White House and discussed the use of waterboarding and other torture techniques on terrorism suspects.

I mentioned the report in my question, and said “I know you’ve talked about reconciliation and moving on, but there’s also the issue of justice, and a lot of people — certainly around the world and certainly within this country — feel that crimes were possibly committed” regarding torture, rendition, and illegal wiretapping. I wanted to know how whether his Justice Department “would aggressively go after and investigate whether crimes have been committed.”

Here’s his answer, in its entirety:

What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that’s already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can’t prejudge that because we don’t have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You’re also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we’ve got too many problems we’ve got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment — I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General — having pursued, having looked at what’s out there right now — are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it’s important– one of the things we’ve got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I’ve said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law — and I think that’s roughly how I would look at it.

The bottom line is that: Obama sent a clear signal that — unlike impeachment, which he’s ruled out and which now seems a practical impossibility — he is at the least open to the possibility of investigating potential high crimes in the Bush White House.

So, Mr. O doesn’t think Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft committed “grave and intentional breaches of the president’s authority,” but instead they implemented “really dumb policies.”

See, to Obama, warrantless wiretapping is a “really dumb policy.”

And, once you accept Mr. O’s position that Bush’s crimes were actually “really dumb policies,” then it tells you where Mr. O is going on the author’s claim of “potential high crimes in the Bush White House.” Nowhere.

Most people were offended when Bush mixed religion and politics. Obama is now taking that “really dumb policy” to a further extreme.

What part of these clues about Obama is it that people don’t understand?

At the risk of presenting readers with download overload, I would like to most highly recommend another video, newly put up at larouchepac.com, “1932.”

Those who hate FDR and what he stood for will hate this video. Among many other valuable ideas, it also contains oodles of rare historical political cartoons and movie footage.

The hi-res (MP4) version is just over 700Mb, but well worth the effort even if you have to take a long time to download it. I play this MP4 (and about every other vid format) using the excellent and free MPUI, This MP4 is also compatible with Quicktime / iTunes and VLC. A link to VLC is available at the site, right next to the video link.

The film is history — Kerry was a damn jerk and always will be.

But what we are dealing with in the Dem Primary season are the UNDEMOCRATIC caucus — and team Obama gamed the caucus system.

Team Obama used the caucuses and the Red states — and the oh so gullible AA voters who were voting for the skin color and NOT the Character of the candidate.

So what in 2006 the DNC got their majority — and hot damn — the DNC is just a corrupt and dirty as the Republicans.

Impeachment is off the table — the US is still in Iraq — Soldiers (and sailors) are still dying. The corruption is still going on.

The problem is probably not — Republicans BAD — Democrats — GOOD.

Dean and Brazile the DNC rules — are dirty — why the hell have the states invest in a primary when the vote is meaningless — because the DNC has already chosen their guy.

The game rules have changed — and the voters are still the loser.

In Washington State we were screwed by the Democratic Party who threw out our vote for a primary — the WA state Dem leadership DECIDED to ignore the primary vote — and hold a caucus. Therefore it is the Democratic Party leadership that is corrupt.

Interesting history lesson — but now the game has changed. Votes do NOT count — the decision is being made by in back rooms — and voters are NOT invited.

OK — that’s my review of the film.

Same thing happened to me on an electronic voting machine. But there was no vote rigging. None at all.

Very good film but it stopped three times and I had to fast forward to where it stopped. Probably site overwhelmed but worth the trouble to watch.

Kinda scary and since Obama is trying to be Rove this election I would not be surprised if Axelrod and the Gang are planning something like this …. seems like the George Bush 3 is looking more like Obama than McCain.

He may win but not with the 23 voting democrats of my family in Tennessee, Ohio, Nevada and Louisiana.

JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY

NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES

After all of the whining, bitching and moaning the Dems did in 2000 - to then do it to their own constituency - absolutely beyond absurd. I do not see the logic in screwing over 18 million voters.

Northwest rain — I’m sorry about your WA State. The film, however, is not history. General election fraud is one more thing on top of all the Dem caucus fraud. Why so cavalier? For whatever candidates are in the running, all the problems we had back then, which are still not solved, will come into play. My bet is still on Hillary, as Obama is self-destructing by the minute. Or what if the choice is Obama vs. a McCain protest vote? Our votes aren’t secure, the entire system is a mess and needs an overhaul. Either way, voters lose. My review of your review.

I am terrified that the 2008 fix is already in, and been in for a while. The establishment has made it very clear from all sides that Obama is the next president. Those who sit at the top of the ruling-class food chain have already for any number of reasons chosen Obama and this election process is completely staged in order to keep Americans believing that they have a choice in government.

Many are wondering why the GOP hasn’t already torn Obama apart and are speculating they are waiting till after the DNC convention. I’m afraid this is not so. I’m afraid they have long planned to sit this one out.

So, whatever you do — do not use electronic voting. Try to persuade anyone you know from using it. Find out what other methods are available in your area. Organize locally to get as many as possible to some other form of accountable non-electronic voting.

This was on the front page of MarketWatch on July 4th:

Obama a shoo-in, forecasting models say

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/obama-shoo-forecasting-models-say/story.aspx?guid={1662DD33-EA15-4228-A2B5-222A7A95E1B9}

They conveniently leave out the power of media corporations in shaping elections, and of course the writer is working for one.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-bawls-too-much-wrong-right-now

the guy doesn’t state any specific preference. how do you know he doesn’t support Obama?

This is a great video!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FvuMDmqwwbI&feature=rec-fresh

You know, I truly believe these two Trolls are here just to get us off topic. Seems as though as long as we keep giving these two Automatons attention, we neglect to make our points on the given subject. Pretty effective if you ask me.

Make yourself a nusiance so as to disrupt the thread. Tell you what.
Why don’t we NEGLECT them and maybe these two shit for brains will go away. They are like two starved puppies. give them attention and you will never get rid of them. Only difference between them and the puppies….Puppies are cute…Sheep are not!

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/

Every week this poll shows the same results, though started over every Friday.

MSM leads you to believe its a tight race. I know this is a small percentage of America but its a good cross section.

I believe if Obama wins it will have been another fixed election. Do we really have a say or are they just letting us think we do.

A great documentary and a great service to fellow citizens…but where was John Ennis and Video the Vote during this dirty Democratic primary? He needs to investigate it…especially in the caucus states like mine. It’s the most undemocratic system ever devised, and intimidation by the Ovomit bots was rampant.

C’mon John! Investigate the primary!!

Black Box Voting did an excellent documentary called Hacking Democracy.

I just want to know why doesn’t anything ever really get done to change the corruption?

I know, Alice, but we PUMAs are now going to change all that forever. Our numbers are already enough to form a VIABLE third party, and once we really get going, millions of others will join us. The Democratic and Republican parties are on their way out. Believe it!

cheers, but some boos too, when Obama addresses teachers The crowd was mostly supportive and at times very enthusiastic today when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama addressed the National Education Association. But USA TODAY’s Greg Toppo reports that Obama also got some boos, as he did when he spoke to NEA last year, by calling again for teachers’ pay to rise if their students do well on tests or if they take on added responsibilities.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/mostly-cheers-b.html

Yes, I felt like this entire democratic primary season was fixed, which is why I always thought it was so amazing how well Hillary did–I think she was up against bigger odds than we might not even know.

You know, frankly, it would not surprise me if Obama won the general by cheating. (Doomsday talk.)

The very sad (and scary) thing is, that it is possible that American citizens may not even have power over who becomes the president…

One thing to think about would be…who buys the presidency? Basically, how much does it cost to rent the USA for 4 years?

That’s too much of a mind-f**k to even consider though.

Off topic, but has anyone heard of newly registered democrats who had trouble with their registration? My younger cousin and her friend registered to vote for the first time (separately) and they each had their registration dates filed wrong–by one year. So, they couldn’t vote in the dem primary, but they can supposedly vote in the general election.

It might just be a good idea for people to double-check their registration status. Who the hell knows.

Election fraud in the past consisted of caging lists, rigged electronic voting machines, and suppression of voter turn-out. It is ironic how Mr. John Wellington Ennis in his film “Free For All” reported on the fraud in Ohio by Mr. Kenneth Blackwell, a black man, who as a Republican, denied the access to vote to black people. Mr. Ennis even mentions Obama in his film.
Again it is ironic, in the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primaries, that it is the Obama supporters who enacted fraud, with their corrupt practices in the caucuses, to win in states where the people voted in favor of Senator Hillary Clinton. Statistically the rigged caucuses show a disparity in how one-person one-vote results differed significantly from caucus results. There was video footage on YouTube showing caucus fraud in Texas by Obama supporters, as well as over 2000 challenges of caucus results filed by Hillary supporters, that were not allowed to be heard until after the Texas state Democratic Convention.
So it looks like a good thing to expose voter fraud by the Republicans in the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections. But don’t let your guard down, a certain faction of the Democratic party is just as capable of fraud as demonstrated by the caucus vote and the hostile take over of the Democratic National Committee. And don’t forget the pay off to the media, CNN and MSNBC. Remember how the media and Obama riggers refused to call Indiana for Hillary until the wee small hours of the morning, denying her air time until a late night victory was announced. Meanwhile all you saw on CNN was how they were waiting for more votes to come in from Indiana areas bordering Chicago. I heard that Hillary advisors told her to hurry up and declare victory or the late reporting cities near Chicago would probably be altered to adjust the vote to go to Obama. Don’t let Obama and his minnions get away with it. They are no better than Karl Rove and the Republicans.

What if the vote is stolen and Obama will win….it would make sense to put McCain up against him, to further the expanding list of those whom can legally run for president….And then you have the issue with Obama’s birth certificate….could this all be a setup for the future?

Isn’t it ironic to hear Obamites saying “Get over it,” just like the Repubs did in 2004? I guess all thieves talk alike.

WHY do posters respond to the TROLLS, especially believe and UK?

I just read (skimmed) through this thread and at least 30% of the comments were from the idiots.

Why let them dominate the conversation, the direction, the content?

STOP FEEDING THEM!

I don’t know how many of you have seen this but I’m sure some of our trolls are from here. Their use of the English language in posts seems to indicate another culture.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

IMPORTANT! Please read my UP POSTS for important caucus stealing info..Texas delegates also read up post please. Time sensitive. Thanks

I watched the film…After what the democratic party did to get Obama the nomination how can we trust them in this election…they fixed the primary…Who can we trust for the truth?….no one….it reminded of some shady things that happened in this primary and it wasn’t done by the republicans …All we can do is let the people vote and hope that the turn out is large enough that all the fixing done by the democrats and the republicans won’t matter in the end….The way I see it we will never really know who the people actually vote for in any election ever again…What Is Truth?….something both the democrats and the republicans know nothing about.

A Citizen Call for Candidates to Respect the Vote Counting Process
Premature Concessions or Claims of Victory are an Insult to Democracy
ALL BALLOTS MUST BE COUNTED BEFORE A VICTOR IS DECLARED

Candidates have no right to concede a race or claim victory if votes remain uncounted, if recounts are being called for, if allegations of election misconduct exist. Elections are not personal contests between the individual candidates. They are the only basis for legitimate transfer of power in our government, based upon the Will of the People. It is the votes that determine the winner, not the candidates. Therefore candidates have no right to short-circuit the process, but have a duty to the voters to respect it.

Shaken Confidence & Illegitimate Results
Since 2000, the American public has become painfully aware of the damaged and shaky condition of our election process. Over the past eight years, elections across the nation have produced outcomes that many Americans suspect are illegitimate. From Presidential elections to local elections, American voters have lost faith that their precious votes will be counted as cast. They question whether the election outcomes are truly reflecting the Will of the People.
History of Devastating Concessions: Will of the People Ignored
In 2000, many Americans watched in dismay as no U.S. Senator would join with the Congressional Black Caucus to challenge the electors in Florida that emerged from a chaotic and aborted election. Apparently some Senators who might have stood with them were persuaded by Senator and Presidential candidate Al Gore not to do so. In 2004, Senator and Presidential candidate John Kerry conceded the race in the deciding state of Ohio before the vote count was complete and long before recounts and challenges would be decided. His concession came despite his later statement that “There are very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials.” Despite Kerry’s available funds and lawyers, it took concerned citizens and third party candidates to mount a campaign for a recount in Ohio. More recently we had the 2006 election in California’s CD 50, where election integrity was compromised when election workers took voting machines home for “sleepovers” in the weeks before the election. This flawed election went unchallenged by the “losing” candidate and by her political party. Once again, citizen activists mounted the challenge to the election’s integrity and outcome.
Demoralizing Effect of Candidate Concessions
Concerned citizens who challenge suspect election outcomes have too often found themselves brushed aside with the statement that “The candidate already conceded. Why are you upset?” While Al Gore and John Kerry are the two most high profile candidates to break trust with the voters, candidates at all levels of government need to understand that they are expected to commit themselves to ensuring that elections reflect the Will of the People.
Take Action
Candidates must stand up to the political “schoolyard bullies” who will taunt them with cries of “Sore Loser.” They must put aside their concerns about possible future political comebacks. They must put the voters, the country, and the integrity of our elections first! As a candidate, please commit to respect the integrity of the election process and wait to claim victory or concede defeat until ALL the votes are counted.

DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT WHEN YOU VOTE IN THE GE.

Okay Okay
I admit I’ve been a creep but am apoligising to everyone here. I realize how great Hillary is and how terrible it is to have been scammed out of the election. I know Obama stole the primary but you all can get it back before August.
Hillary is GREAT!
I hope Obama loses. He is a terrible person. I’m realizing how wrong I’ve been since I have read the posts and have ahd an epiphany. Can I Join PUMA?
I know I’m not American but would like to join anyways. My MOM won’t mind.

Comment by WildChild | 2008-07-06 17:54:10

everybody knows that in Ukies case all caps represents his drunken Irish accent right?

Difficult to get drunk when you have to find the money for taxes to pay for the Republicans illegal war.

and obama keeps voting to fund it too.