Whither the Teachers’ Unions? The Obama/Ayers Link
By Steve Diamond on July 5, 2008 at 6:45 PM in Annenberg Chicago Challenge, Barbara Jordan, Bill Ayers, Chicago politics, Education, Education Debt, Unions, Weather Underground, William Ayers
All of a sudden, the American Federation of Teachers seems to have decided it is in their best interest to rise to the defense of Obama and his education advisor Linda Darling-Hammond. In particular, they do not want anyone looking too closely at the long-standing relationship between Bill Ayers and their preferred presidential candidate, Senator Obama.
Well, not really all of a sudden, it’s just a few days after the AFL-CIO decided to throw in the towel and endorse Obama over Clinton now that Clinton has put her campaign on ice. And just a few days before Obama is scheduled to appear before the national conventions of both of the major teachers’ unions. The AFT has recommended its convention meeting next week in Chicago endorse Obama, as has the National Education Association, before which Obama speaks tomorrow, July 5.
When I pointed out at the Edwize Blog sponsored by the United Federation of Teachers, the big New York division of the AFL-CIO affiliated AFT, that Darling-Hammond backs the same key policy proposal (repayment of centuries of “education debt” to people of color) as Bill Ayers, long-time education advocate and co-worker of Obama, and that Ayers and Obama are far from being “casual acquaintances” as Leo Casey of the AFT had contended, Casey replied with the following false claims on the Democratic Left Yahoo group:
1) that I had painted an “unrecognizable caricature” of Darling-Hammond;
2) that I had contended that the $110 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge that Ayers and Obama ran together for five years was a “political front” for Ayers and his politics;
3) that Obama had only a “quite superficial grasp of what [was] going on” at the Annenberg Challenge the board of which he chaired and was not “involve[d] in the nitty-gritty” of the five year long project and that he was only “lending..his name and his ability to make a couple of telephone calls to get things done.”
4) that I contended there was “some sort of sinister hidden connection between Obama and Ayers”
None of this is true and Casey provides no documentation at all for any of his specious contentions. I wrote the following reply to both Democratic Left and Edwize, but so far neither site has “approved” my posts (pretty remarkable for Democratic Left, a site that considers itself an opponent of authoritarianism in modern political life) so I am putting up a copy here:
Well, at least Leo now seems to be admitting that Ayers and Obama were more than “casual acquaintances” as he asserted on Democratic Left and on Edwize.
So now on to the second line of defense.
Frankly, I am not sure what that is because I only assert two things: Obama and Ayers have a longstanding political relationship – which is clear from the public record; and two, Ayers and Darling-Hammond are now advocating a race-based solution to education – the repayment of centuries of “education debt” to people of color or, in other words, reparations. Nothing you have said contradicts this.
I did not paint a portrait of Darling-Hammond or caricature her as you have speciously asserted. I only stated the facts as supported by her public record. She and I have exchanged emails on this issue and this is reported on my blog. She herself has never suggested that I have made any factually incorrect statements about her.
I never suggested the Annenberg Challenge which Obama and Ayers ran together, though not alone, was a political front as you, again without substantiation, contend I did. In fact, Ayers was quite open about his political goals and those goals run right through the lengthy grant proposal, the annual reports of the organization and its board minutes, which I have reviewed (though some board minutes were not provided me).
Some in Chicago shared those goals. Some understood the background of his views and others did not. I view the local schools councils as an attempt to create a new center of power that was aimed at the power of the teachers’ union. They were set up in the wake of an unpopular teachers strike in 1987. Obama and Ayers were active in the lobbying effort for that “radical” reform, as Ayers called it in his proposal to the Annenberg Foundation.
I do not consider such local councils a democratic step forward for school progress, but rather as a potential base of power for those with a different kind of agenda, based on racial politics and “social justice” teaching. A genuine democratic alternative would be built, as Dorothy Shipps has written, in district wide assemblies elected by the public that are transparent and accountable.
I have not imputed any particular agenda to Ayers, Obama or Darling-Hammond, other than to note that Ayers and Darling-Hammond support repayment of the education debt as a top priority. Obama has not stated what his views are on this very clearly though he indicated sympathy for the idea while campaigning in South Carolina.
Given the long and close ties between Ayers and Obama and the professional ties among education debt repayment advocates Ayers, Darling-Hammond and Ladson-Billings, it is reasonable to ask if this kind of race-based approach to educational problems is going to be part of the Obama presidency.
Obama was not as you contend an elected official when he first worked on school reform with Ayers in the late 80s, nor was he even yet a candidate when he became Chairman of the board of the Annenberg Challenge in 1995. He was a relative unknown and quite a junior person at that point, just two years out of law school when Ayers submitted the grant proposal, with only a voter registration drive to his credit since leaving Harvard.
Thus, I think it is a fair question to ask why Obama would have been chosen to head up such a prestigious effort as the $110 million Annenberg Challenge. I think Ayers backed him because he knew he could rely on Obama to support Ayers’ agenda of propping up the troubling and troubled local schools councils.
And, in fact, the record of the Challenge – its annual reports, mid term reports and board minutes – indicate that that is precisely what happened. Even when concerns were raised by a business sector representative on the board that the councils represented a potential “political threat” to school principals (and unions??) Obama backed Ayers in pushing money into the school council election process.
Finally, when you suggest that Obama played no significant role in directing the Challenge, are you suggesting that as chairman of the board of a major non profit corporation in the state of Illinois, that Obama had a hands-off attitude? That he was NOT aware that the Challenge was signing off on, for example, a $175,000 grant to Ayers buddy Mike Klonsky, as they did in 1995 for the Small Schools Workshop Klonsky was recruited to head up by Ayers? That suggests to me a problem of fiduciary duty. Quite unlikely for a Harvard Law School graduate – and frankly, more worrying for me about Obama if true.
No, I think Obama knew exactly what he was doing when he voted as a board member to approve the disbursement of millions of dollars in order to intervene in the Chicago school wars. And so did Ayers. They were using each other for advancement of their careers and their shared political perspective on education policy.
The Challenge ended in 2001. It is certainly reasonable for voters to ask seven years later for Obama to explain the relationship and Ayers’ influence on his approach to education policy.
While no one could, or should, impute to Obama any support for the terroristic activity of Ayers, Dohrn and others, there is an important connection between Ayers’ politics then and his approach to education policy today: Ayers and the Weather Underground promoted a politics built around the absurd idea of “white supremacy,” which Ayers calls even today the “monster in the room” at the heart of American life.
This was linked to another idea that was widely held among the maoist elements that took hold in the early 70s in the US: that American workers and their unions were part of a giant labor aristocracy that exploited workers of the south, the so-called Third World. Inside the US, the Weather Underground argued that global form of “unequal exchange” was reproduced in the relationship between white and black workers.
Thus, when an idea like repayment of centuries of accumulated “education debt” is proposed as the top priority of the next federal government as it has been by Darling-Hammond, Ladson-Billings and Bill Ayers, all of whom have links to Obama it is reasonable to ask what Obama’s view are on such a critical issue. The presumptive nominee has yet to explain how it is that his education advisor can promote such an idea and yet he remains silent on it.
I would think the members of America’s teachers’ unions would like to know the answers to such questions as well before they decide how to approach the upcoming elections.
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First comment!! Go PUMA!!!!
OK, if you ignore the past of Ayers (and Democrats are supposed to believe in rehabilitation (hence why the Clintons gave the Weathermen a Presidential pardon), they have succeeded in the most succesful turn around of Chicago schools ever. So if you are a true Democrat, appreciate the chances a decent education gives you WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM?
Link please to all the bull you just spread.
speaking of spread, it’s been awhile since someone spread my beef curtains, if ya catch my drift. speaking of drift, that cheezy smell drifting through the room is my yeast encrusted puss. clean it for momma, pleeease, baby?
No, way I’ve got the same problem! I once killed a guy by stuffing his nose in my runny cooch. he died of shock, the doctor said. by the way, you should get that dog. let me tell you, you won’t need a husband anymore, or any guy. once you get hooked on pooch in the cooch, you’ll never go back, trust me ;D
I take it you are from the United Kingdom UKforDems?
I am from the UK..If you don’t mind me saying..mind your language (f-word). We are guests on this American website. And I for one appreciate reading this website.
Really? Do you live in Chicago? You really do not know what the FUCK you are talking about when it comes to the schools here in chicago!
I just love it when some Liberal from God knows where, says shit like this. You have been reading too many of Obama’s press clippings.
Did you know we have one of the highest drop out rates here in Chicago? Did you know we have some of the WORST Gang Infested schools in the country?
Some of the highest teen pregnancy rates,,,not THE highest…but high just the same.
And let us not forget ther POVERTY rate and lack of HOMES for these students!
DONT tell me squat about the miraculous state these schools are in…YOU DONT LIVE HERE!
US schools, like US healthcare are in an awful state. It does not take an American to know that. However what have the Dems done in Chicago? They have pulled many – indeed not all – schools up allowing children to obtain opportunities never thought possible before; including President.
Put down the bong. You have no clue what you are talking about. I’m in Chicago too, like the other poster above. If I had children, I wouldn’t dare send them to Chicago public schools. I have two friends that quit Chi p/s because they couldn’t stand the way the students would even treat the teachers. The stress they say was unbelievable.
Obama doesn’t care, he sends his kids to private schools. What a hypocrite.
glad to know I am not the only one troubled by Obama sending his kids to private schools.
spare me!
Holy Cow you are delusional, you should change your name to UK on crack!!!!
Tampa,
YUKforDems has displayed only one trait with consistency… he is wrong. always.
two traits Zeke, he is always wrong and always an asshole
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha UKIe has a unique perspective on America from his seat in ireland… through bottom of his whiskey glass.
UK for Dems -
Read up on Chicago politics.
It’s the cesspool of America and Obama comes right out of there.
Lying cheating vote stealing thugs, and he’s proud of it. Thinks it’s cool.
How do you like the campaign shirts on campuses during the primaries “Bros B4 Hoes?”
What about voter intimidation in the caucuses and on campuses, does that suit your European taste buds?
And don’t tell us about our schools. We have to send our children to them.
OBAMATRONIC IS THE NEW ADJECTIVE FOR THIS!
Parents raise children not schools.
Parents nurture children not schools.
Unless the parents become responsible nothing will change.
Throwing money after this problem is not a solution.
If you cannot provide for a child and his issues DO NOT HAVE ONE
The culture must change first .
Yes, ditto Sawbuck.
The reforms pushed by Ayers and Obama at Annenberg were a failure as documented thoroughly by the Annenberg Challenge’s own research Arm, the Chicago School Research Consortium. They concluded that there was “no” positive effect from the $110 million spent by Ayers and Obama over six years.
The schools management was re-centralized in the hands of the mayor in the mid 90s and that is the source of any changes that you speak of.
Thank you Steve for your time and effort to inform us.
Yo Steve,
Didn’t they succeed at granting funds for Hamas in Palestine?
No, not the Annenberg Challenge. The Woods Fund apparently made grants to groups interested in the mideast but I do not know much about that.
You are the problem, so dry up and blow away.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm
Some of the other pardons look somewhat scary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy
More details – look at how he let his half brother off, who ten went and broke the law.
Off Topic:
Just went over to Huff Puff, article by Lynn Sweet. Here is a small part of what she mentions:
Obama mulling major speech in front of Berlin’s Brandenburg gate; to evoke, Reagan, Kennedy. “Ich bin ein Obama”
WASHINGTON–A German friend passed along the news Saturday that local sources in Berlin are confirming that the Obama campaign was in contact with city authorities to discuss the possibility of presumptive Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) delivering an outdoor address in front of the Brandenburg gate. The thinking is Obama would follow in the footsteps of two very famous Cold War-era speeches of U.S. presidents speaking in Germany: JFK “Ich bin ein Berliner” and Reagan “tear down this wall.” It would probably be Obama’s only public speech during upcoming visits to Germany, France and England on a swing to include stops in Israel and Jordan. There is still no date for the trip. German news sources are reporting the Obama team is working on a visit during the “second half of this month”.
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Spiegel Online International reports that an Obama visit to Berlin his month “looks likely” with Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
I am unable to give you the link, because I don’t know how too.
My reaction was “What???”
Huff Puff = Huffington Post
Good, the Germans will get it. They love speeches.
especially the ones that end with Heute Deutschland Morgen die ganze Welt
And he will get a huge, cheering crowd. Obama is much admired in Europe, just as Bush is deeply disliked.
That’s because they don’t know him over there yet.
Yes we do and we knew Mrs Bush Lite as well.
No you don’t, we don’t even know him . Geez you lie just like Obama!!!
Why is it you stick your UK nose into our politics when you really don’t seem to know how our political system works? At least my relatives in The Netherlands have a clue about this jackass and pass on kool-aid. As for the remark about “today Germany, tomorrow the world” we really have to make sure he doesn’t make it into the White House this fall, or better yet that he doesn’t get the nomination in Denver.
Nobama- large crowds- European landmarks.
Eeeccck. Sure Barky, excellent idea to counter the notion you are a Manchurian Canidate, the anti-christ, or the reincarnation of Chairman Mao.
Someone pass me the tinfoil, I need to fashion myself a hat.
He’s not running for President of Europe. He first has to get the votes of the American people. He straddles the fence on all foreign relation issues.
The Europeans have actual journalists and multiple news sources.
I’ve lived in Germany. Even the young folk there are not easily fooled. The older folk will not go for any Nuremberg type rallies.
By the way, if he was so concerned about Europe, why couldn’t he hold hearings of his committee?
He’s only now interested in European affairs because he thinks it will get him elected.
Now which candidate will do “whatever it takes” to get elected? Looks like that prize goes to Obama.
You stupid redneck that comment above all else shows why Hillary lost and why McWar will lose as well. The US is currently uabout as popular as the plague. The fact that America looks as though it will break with the past is why Obama is popular in Europe. I do not even need to describe how contemptable the PUMA mob looks.
UKforDems, You’re just as arrogant as Obama, Do you think for one minute we care what you think?
By the way your momma called she wants you to come home and change your pissy sheets, ya twit!
My head is not too clear today. I am ashamed to have used bad words. Obama really stinks.
Wahahahahahhah My father used to say sometime you have to fight fire with fire….hahahaha
I’m glad you and billions of others have an interest in US politics. It’s healthy, seeing as the decisions of this nation have more of an impact than those of any other single nation. Don’t let these people get to you, those of us in the US who are able to think beyond our own petty day to day lives know the world is looking for respect from the US, not more arrogance and bullying, such as is displayed here.
Ignore this guy! He is an idiot.
Who gives a shite what you think of this country. You are a POS and so is your Queenie who rides around in her Land Rover in her crown while people like you are on the dole with your teeth rotting out. DIAF.
The Russians say that a fish rots from the head. I disagree, as it is clear from viewing post like yours that a fish rots from the heart, then the head.
hey..uk nutcase…
to quote you……”I do not even need to describe how contemptable the PUMA mob looks.”
You mean as Contemptable as the protests you all do in London that i have seen for years and years while visiting your homeland????????..or how about all those protestors in France???? You mean that contemptable?????
Please mind your own fucking business..we don’t get into your protests..so stay the fuck out of ours!
You will not vote for our president ..we will..and you will have no effect on how i vote ..in fact you and all the other meddlers only solidify my resolve…
Now go pick up your obama paycheck..and stfu about our politics..we have enough fake Americans doing that now..Like Arianna..and Kos…and Soros…we don’t give a fuck what you say..understand that?????????
Oh and in case you don’t know the History..we had a revolution to get rid of people like you from our national politics..and our constitution says..”we the people”..that means all who are working with and for Puma..and that includes me…AND THAT INCLUDES THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS THAT VOTED IN THE PRIMARIES FOR HILLARY ONLY TO SEE OURSELVES ROBBED ONCE AGAIN BY CROOKS!
Now stfu!
fly
Hahahaha! That was really some knee slapping fun, watching you dig your bitter fringe protest ever further into global isolation. I like how we’ve gone from Hillary’s “Global Neighborhood” to referring to other nations who have an interest in US politics as “meddlers”. That attitude, which is shared with your peers, should win Hillary allot of friends.
UK, I don’t know why we bother even answering you, but stop calling those us who actually have a vote over here names. You are showing how appallingly ignorant you are to support this candidate. Haven’t you read any of the articles and the posts which explain why we don’t want him? Remember “taxation without represenation” and the Revolutionary War? You are a blithering idiot and a nasty piece of work!
Don’t even try to squeeze a drop of rational and open minded contemplation from this mob. These are the bitterest of the bitter, the real dead-enders. You’d have better luck squeezing blood from a stone. They’d rather see the world destroyed by McCrazy in a fiery WWIII apocalypse than vote for the candidate who’s policies are virtually identical to the primary candidate who lost (and even further to the left on foreign policy). They are hollow shells of people, burned away from the inside out by mindless rage, and that is why they will remain isolated and bitter, unable to expand beyond squalid hate forums such as this, into the general population. You’ve seen first hand that this is not exactly a welcoming place. Do you think they are preaching to anyone but their own self pitying choir? No, don’t worry, they are just the latest angry white separatist movement to marginalize itself to the political fringe.
candymarl the vineger and chips igit says your a redneck. Thats funny.
I agree with your points. I swear I thought I saw BO in a window in Amsterdam recently…
Lemme guess.
You took a poll of all two of your Euro friends, and they said they liked him.
LMFAO
Let me guess which candidate can fill stadiums and which candidate gets a total of TWENTY protesters in favour?
New CNN poll out yesterday.
Not even HALF of Hillary voters will vote for Obama in November.
Bwahahahahahaha!!!
Poor Poor UK leming.
He fills the stadiums with a bunch of punk ass kids looking for a rock concert….Pleeease
Sorry I didn’t mean to say that. Why am I here?
What does filling stadiums have to do with the price of eggs in China?
This is the 40th anniversary of the Night of the Living Dead, the zombies have woke up and we need to destroy them before they destroy us.
actually obama isn’t much admired anywhere and that includes the majority of americans. go check the latest cnn polls. he is losing his dang party, dude. they’ll be cheering only in joy that he isn’t running for anything there.
Actually, he’s just losing bitter dead-enders who are on the die-off end of the demographic spectrum, and who are being replaced by new younger voters, as evidenced by the rampant hostility toward anyone under 40, on here. In fact, he’s winning all traditionally democratic demographics, including women, except for, surprise surprise, white people over 65. He’s not losing the democratic party, he’s just changing the dynamic from older to younger.
Europe does not even know who the hell Obama is. We are just finding out about this lunatic here and everything about Obama is negative.
Comment by Obama is a bum | 2008-07-05 21:30:32
Europe does not even know who the hell Obama is. We are just finding out about this lunatic here and everything about Obama is negative
The Obama Enigma is a puzzle..and that is why I am here to find out more about Obama. Just to let you know I am not impressed. Hillary Clinton impressed me. Personally, I thought Hillary Clinton would make an excellent President. I am hoping still there is a window of opportunity for this to happen.
Great website by the way!!
The opportunity for Hillary exists if Obama would fall way behind in the polls vs. McCain causing the Democrats to feel Obama is too flawed to nominate. That has not happened.
This seems to be due to a huge cult base that developed and these people will follow Obama regardless of his shady past, what he does, or what he says. They are willing to fill stadiums like zombies and applaud anything Obama does including blowing his nose into a microphone for them to hear.
Obama’s following reminds me of the Jim Jones cult where people were willing to follow that nut to Guyana, live in a socialist society created by Jones called “Jonestown”, and ultimately kill themselves on Jones’ command.
Maybe he does belong in Germany. They should recognize this stuff by now.
Ahh..i was in Paris last month and he was not wanted there..in fact everywhere i went people kept telling me..get Hillary in..do not go Obama..and i heard that everywhere..even cab drivers..so i do not know where you are getting the bullshit Obama is liked in Europe..more propaganda i guess,…oh and as a Flight crew of a msjor airline for 33 yrs..i flew Paris exclusively for about 26 of those years..i have many friends all over Paris..no one wanted to see us stuck with Obama..not do the French want to be stuck with Obama as our pres..everywhere i went the French i know kept saying..we beg you for Hillary..
So please “believe” poster for Obama.. do not make general statements like quote ” And he will get a huge, cheering crowd. Obama is much admired in Europe”
…when is the last time you were in Europe to take a poll????????
fly
So, there’s this amazing thing on the internets called google, and it actually lets you do things like find real polls, so that the rest of us don’t have to depend on anti-Obama fanatics and their “friends in Paris”, to inform us of foreign public opinion. So I tried it out, and I found this precious nugget:
“In France, historically the European country with the strongest anti-American sentiment, 65 per cent would back Mr Obama.”
Kinda sinks your whole cock charade about exclusive knowledge of what Europe really wants, ey?
read on:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2049446/Barack-Obama-beats-John-McCain-in-European-vote-US-election-2008.html
The Goose-stepping troll is back. Hello, brownshirt.
Obama has taken the ideas he has from every leader he can find..he is a FRAUD…I hope people soon figure this out…maybe we should help them.PUMA ROAR
Reminds me of the title of a great movie called, “The Mouse That Roared”.
USSR, Good they can have BO”Plenty. PUMA
It is a sham of an election; lets just hope they can’t program the voting machines. This guy is not for me.
With Obama people, rigging this election is a real possibility. Look at the people Obama admires, including Ayers who is featured here. Obama would like to take a page out of Zimbabwe and pull what Mugagbe did.
Yeah, because he’s black, and, and, that guy, Mooga-booga is black, so he must be an election stealerer too! Can’t trust a nigger!
Because he is black you are voting for him, dumbass.
Because she is a white woman, you are voting for her, angel buns.
Funny how only Obamabots use the N-word. Moron.
Funny how hardly anyone here has the intelligence to respond to a comment that has more than two sentences, honey shorts. Guess bitterness rots the brain.
Thanks for the article Steve, All I can say is I hope the Republicans are busy investigating the hell out of Obama. If he wins we are all in trouble.
Speech should be entitled, “Ich bin ein ODummy.”
Bush and Barry Hussein Jr. = No Child Left Behind.
Birds of the same feather: OBAMA AND
Ayers
Dorn
Wright
Fleeger
Daley
Pritzker
Rezko
Axelrod
Dean
Pelosi
ODinga
“Present”……..
Feel free to add on.
NO DEAL! PUMA! HILLARY OR MCCAIN!
BABYMAMA–MICHELLE OBAMA“the angriest woam in america“
Actually, a lot of folks here are really quite angry. Earlier today I mentioned that McCain changed his mind a lot and someone said they wanted to “punch” me in my “c**t.”
Absolutely appalling, wouldn’t you say?
believe, stay within your guidelines.
thats b/c we have a official website for MCCAIN BASHING which used to work on HILLARY BASHING ,
IT IS
DAILYKOS=DAILYHATE
Also ,this website was always pro-dems but as media ,mydd,kos,became pro-obama …we here became pro-hillary ,got a problem –f off??
Now you are nothing but pro KKK. Makes me laugh that good old Larry is now as likely to be consulted on security issues in the future as a result of his new found factionalism as Sadam — and he is no more.
Stop with your muddled rambling.
Do you posses anything more than a 2nd grade education?
You are not talking like anyone but BO.
UKIE is a drunken irishman…living in Ireland. Yesturday on 4 JUL: our independence day , UKIE didn’t know that in our revolution we stood up an army and fought and whooped the British in open combat.
you folks take your 3rd rate history education and apply it to 4rth rate insults of people from cultures you pretend to understand, and who more than likely just tilt their head in wonderment that you think they actually give a shit. Really classy stuff.
Believe you twist the truth!!! There was more to it and you know it. You said something previously that really upset that person. And now you make the remark that a lot of us are angry, you generalize. We don’t like Obama! If you think that is angry…Well so be it.
Yes because I’m sure your tender sensibilities are offended. If you don’t like why are you here? There are many other websites to visit. You’re not changing minds. You’re once again dealing in who said what to whom.
I notice you don’t mention Obama’s recent flip-flops on FISA, Campaign Finance, the death penalty and gun control.
But I’m not surprised.
Easy to defend for THE WINNING Democrat nominee. Let Hillary explain it to you.
UKforDems , you’re so childish
I’m in Michigan, idiot. You know, the “new” Florida. Where democracy died a second death in 2008.
Ya, I’m angry. Rightfully so.
Now go bother someone else. The adults are trying to get their Democracy back.
wailing over the “death of democracy”. This democracy has been dying for the last 160 years, thanks to legalized corporate and banking bribery. What was Hillary going to do about that? Jack shit, that’s what. And suckers like you believed all that BS she faked about “fighting special interests”, while all the while taking their money, hand over fist. That’s as blindly naive as believing a police chief who says he will crack down on the mob, while he gets paid off by the mob.
Further more, an election is a method of choosing a candidate that the voters want, and if it does not result in choosing who the voters want, it loses all of that sacred power you folks get so worked up about. Well, seeing as Obama was consistently ahead of Hillary in all of the polls from about a week after the first super Tuesday till the very end, guess what? The winner was the candidate that most voters wanted. The only reason Hillary was even close was because of her name recognition early in the race. She got the, “duuuuh, I’ll vote for the familiar face”, vote. Once Obama got the same news coverage, she lost that name recognition edge, and never recovered.
Not only that, but Obama would be ahead by millions of votes if the caucus states were popular vote states. Winning 5% or 10% of 10 million nets you a hell of allot more than winning 20% of 100 thousand.
Sorry, I know this isn’t the home of rational thought.
Wrongo. That poster replied after you said it was no big deal that Obama mixed up the concentration camps because Jews died everywhere. Then again, you are nagging boring lying bot, so what’s new.
Obama – The dimestore Hitler. I bet his pig ass wife would love to round up the why’d he.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXirZLHyFCM
It’s like seeing monkeys masterbate at the zoo. Don’t let it get to you, they don’t know any better.
al-sharpton
donna brazile
clyburn
randi rhodes
markos
kietho olberman
chris mathews
dick morris
great additions {{sonia}}
hi dawn
how u been ?
J. Rockefeller
J. Webb
T. Kaine
B. Sanders
L. Farrakahn
M. Pfleger
we should put all of these names on our hit-list! Don’t worry, just sniping a few would bring the others in line ;^)
Our school system here is in SHAMBLES. They have abused Affirmative Action, dumbed down our students, have no accountability for them to succeed therefore they graduate wo knowing basic math and reading skills. The schools also misuse tax dollars. They system is funded by property taxes. Last year they tried to get a $1 billion dollar school renovation project passed. Homeowners soundly defeated it in a petition. The schools spent money on an in ground pool at one school and a baseball stadium at another just a few years ago. If the schools are in such bad shape physically, why were they wasting money on things like that?? The schools are just as crooked as all of the other things that are financed by taxes. Their credibility and endorsement doesn’t mean shit to me.
one word solution…. vouchers
It’s not the schools that are a problem, it’s the parents of the students. I don’t know anything about raising children but in my day they used violence to get you to conform, it seemed to work pretty well. Now the children tell the parents and the teachers to go screw themselves and the kids tell the parents what to do, what a pity.
I completely agree with you. I have raised six kids and I am sorry but in my house I am the boss. You go to school and you be on time everyday. You will watch your mouth with the teachers because if your in trouble in school your in trouble at home. That is how I raised them. If I can live in the Ghetto and raise good kids what’s up with parents in Middle class or Upper class neighborhood. I say Obama needs to send his kids to Chigico Public schools if they are so great.
“I don’t know anything about raising children but…”
but, nuff said.
“in my day they used violence to get you to conform, it seemed to work pretty well.”
Yes, childhood violence turned out such well adjusted young lads as Hitler and Ted Bundy. Sheesh, will you throwbacks to the middle ages just die, already? The rest of us are looking forward to something you’ve forgotten, called “progress”.
By the way, I don’t know who all endorsed King George but look at how he turned out. One of the worst, if not THE WORST President we’ve ever had. Reagan is right up there with him-AWFUL. So endorsements might sway some people but not me.
just watched ELDER show on FOX …
HE IS GOOD ,HE JUST SAID ““IF OBAMA HAD MADE THESE FLIP-FLOPS BEFORE PRIMARY ENDED ,HE WOULD NOT BE THE NOMINEE-THAT HE ACTED TOTALLY LEFTY COMPARED TO BEING A MODERATE LIKE CLINTON ,NOW HE IS CHANGING HIS POSITIONS““`
And what makes you think that this speaker knows what he’s talking about? Has he been correct before? Did he predict how the nomination battle would work out before it got started in January?
I don,t know if he is correct but –let me remind u what obama said “`republicans have good ideas “`all while he was labeling clintons for race and trshing thier yrs in white house ,,,
so considering obama,s comments,i assume ,rep do have good ideas,so we be voting for MCCAIN PER OBAMA,S WISHES ,,
I apologize for my early comments. I am starting to get the point of view on this site. How could I have been so wrong?
CAUSE–U R ONLY 18 WITH NO MIND OF OWN AND ON JEDI EFFECT ,WITH HIGH ON KOOLAID —
BTW–HOW IS $7/HR WORKING OUT FOR YA?
I volunteer. Only because I can’t get dates.
Figures
oh poor puppy
$7/hr
Sweetie, before attempting to get off Welfare, may I suggest voting for a Democrat so that you can at least be afforded the opportunity of a decent education.
don,t need to brag here —but just for info ….
me and hubby make so much together —to be able to 400 paid bloggers like u everyday —
now go and see if u can afford a gucci/prada/lv bag for the sorry ass of our ..
able to have 400 shitts like u =
speaking only for me, you can have an education and still be a damn fool. you certainly are proof of that.
but Stodghie, we don’t know he actually had an education. He sounds like an idiot to me.
You are talking about Obama supporter there. They are the one need welfare. MOst poeple here rather work hard instead of applied for welfare. They don’t feel the need to put themself to that level.
I don’t have a college degree personally, but my wife have a Master. She don’t seem to have a problem with my intel. That also didn’t stop me from able to retire if I want any time since my 33rd birthday. That coming from an immigrant, vet and Hardly speaking english just 20 years ago. And I have critical thinking skill and don’t hate women. What did your education did for you? I can see that you can think without a script as well as seeing the world from your tiny window.
I mean you can’t think withou a script.
A “decent education” is what you make of it.
As proof of the this, all one needs to do is look at BO’s ignorance on a whole slew subjects. ESPECIALLY the U.S. Constitution.
I think the thing with poeple now days, is the fact that they don’t use common sense. I look at education as programing that goes into a computer when it was first bought. You need a lot of upgrade along the way for everyday use. The typical Obama supporter don’t gether as much information as they could, and sticking to the initial input from none other than Obama Capm. Real world experience count and porper use of their reasoning skill is the most important, and they fail to use it. Just as this so call UK person who refuse to even try to understand other people’s reason, and quick to judge people explains it.
I seem a lot of those O supporters calling people stupid, low IQ, low inform, racist just because people don’t agree with them. What they don’t understand is that some of us have most higher IQ that average, succed in life and are just more free thinking than they are. I am sure that when they grow up, they may become more wise. But that may be to much to hope for.
Obama is just a fraud to me. Nothing more.
AndySF, if you do live in S.F. and in Pelosi’s district, I hope you don’t vote for her. It would be nice to get her out of office.
I would never vote for her ever agian. I would take back my previous vote if I could.
DUMB AND UGLY ….BELIEVE???????
I bet you like your coffee like you like your heart. BLACK.
I LOVE the sense of humor people have on here, don’t you? Yes, after dealing with self absorbed, contemptuous, caustically negative jerks all day, I like to come here to connect with the light hearted and fun loving Hillary supporters. Such a caring crew, full of youthful vitality and a love of life, and always ready to share a laugh.
Your name says it all. You believe in Obama. Do you believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy also? We wouldn’t want to break your bubble.
Says the dead-ender praying for lightning to smite his foe so his candidate can win the nomination, and then the presidency, with millions of dollars in debt and no campaign.
ELDER”S SHOW WAS GREAT
pls post this link everywhere,we should make it a hit .
These people don’t get it do they? If you do not agree to support Obama, then you are a Racist! What the F*** has happened to our country where these nasty charges get flung around with no regard to the truth?
Is this the “CHANGE” we were promised by that street corner hustler? Oh I suppose I am a racist for saying that. Street Corner Hustler! In my neck of the woods we call them PIMPS!
Well, today Obama told the teachers union that he supports merit pay and was booed. This is an example of Obama’s willingness to say things in front of crowds that the group won’t support.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/mostly-cheers-b.html?csp=34
So he is boo…Is that suppose to mean he doesn’t flip flop? Believe if you want to stay stupid it is fine by us, just don’t come here spreading your stupidity!!
Rather than call names, perhaps you could discuss why you think Obama would make a speech to a group that includes a position they disagree with?
I mean, is it at all possible for people to discuss anything at this site? The main response seems to be angry name-calling.
Who knows why Obama says what he does.I’m sure we’ll find out later that some larger group is for merit pay. At any rate give him a week and he’ll change his position. One minute he’s for NAFTA and the next against it. I imagine he does it for political reasons even though he was suppose to be the candidate of change. But you see “Believe” he is just like every other politician, we are just calling him out on it.
Oh and stop trying to act like you don’t instigate shit here.
Obama came to Detroit more than a year ago to give a speech at the Detroit Economic Club. In his speech he dissed Detroit for building cars nobody wanted and burned too much gas. So what kind of car did Obama own and drive when he showed up in Detroit for his speech? Obama gots him a Chrysler 300 HEMI, I guess somebody liked a big gas burner, Obama.
Of course, conservation only applies to us little people.
Speaking of stoooopid, I’ve yet to see you say anything other than hurling insults which range from petty to childish.
all it means is obama is stupid and really doesn’t give good speeches without a telepromter.
Well, today Obama told the teachers union that he supports merit pay and was booed.
There goes another 2 million votes. Believe; you have no idea what you are talking about. Merit pay in it’s present form is union busting. Having installed tecnology system that evaluate k12 student progress, I can tell you not one teacher I have met in the entire county thinks merit pay is anything but nonsense and look at these eval systems and Merit pay as a distraction.
Do we have good and bad teachers? Sure. Merit pay is a DSA meme. Good luck with it.
I DEMAND TIME ON THE DNC FLOOR!
by Lance Bryce, Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 07:12:52 PM EST
I DEMAND TIME ON THE DNC CONVENTION FLOOR TO SCREAM ABOUT INADAQUATE BLACK MALES AND SEXIST DONNA BRAZILLE WHO STOLE THE NOMINATION BECAUSE SHE HATES FEMALES. I REPRESENT A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HATE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE SO IT IS NATURAL THAT YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO SPEAK AT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/7/5/191253/9092
READ THIS, Written by DONNA BRAZILE, NOV. 5, 2004, a couple days after BUSH was Re-Elected. It’s called “WHY AMERICANS HATE DEMOCRATS” How To Tap Into The Obama Factor. http://www.slate.com/id/2109328
Seeing through eyes of hate positioned Brazille to become BOBO’s emissary to the fringe left of the democratic party.
“It is not our abilities that show who we truly are … it is our choices.”
I have been off my medication for quite some time. I need help.
U NEED KOOL-AID —-THEY HAVE IT ON DAILYKOS=DAILYHATE SITE ..ENJOY
How do I make a request to delete all my posts on this site?
ummmm
unnnnn
uhhhhh
i don,t ummmmmmmmm know ,i am obama ,ummmmmm uhhhhhhh let me ask hillary about it uhhhhhhhhhh
Someone posted this with my name – not me.
So funny to use someone else’s name to request that their e-mail be deleted. Very mature.
You must think it’s oh-so-funny to write that in my screen name.
I have 10 year olds who are more mature than that.
My god are you a snore.
That piticular behavior is indicative of BO supporters; go ask the 400 Club about it.
Good to see people here are above that sort of thing.
What a horrible site. I stumbled into this because I am still waiting to see the “evidence” that Michelle Obama made the whitey speech at Trinity Church or better yet an apology from the insane Larry Johnson. You people are going to follow him off a cliff. APOLOGIZE OR SHUT UP
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ha ha ha ha
hey go wipe off ur ass
stop stinking this site —-
btw –there is more like where u came from -dailykos.
Once again you’re implying that someone stinks. Is this a big thing for you, the idea that someone smells and this is something that might humiliate them?
You must know that it in no way makes your ideas more persuasive. Name-calling has the obverse effect.
oh poor puppy ,
no dates
jedi effect
low on kool aid
$7/hr
What are you doing here on a Saturday night? I’m back from a bbq and getting ready for fun with my honey.
U R READY FOR FUN
I GOT SOME BRAIN ,SO I AM WORRIED FOR MY BUSSINESS,KIDS,AND SAFETY OF MY KIDS UNDER MR WAFFLES .
Well, the phrase “I GOT SOME BRAIN” always implies high levels of intelligence.
Off to good times!
$7/HR FOR YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Considering you never get your ass off that pleather computer chair of yours, I would wager to guess that yes, you do ideed smell.
Who?
I don’t know what pleather is, but I’m sitting on my beautiful deck right now. What a lovely night it is and my honey and I are going up for good times in just a few. He’s opening the wine now.
And what are you doing tonight?
Stop hitting on me. I’m not interested in your cottage cheese sticking to your pleather computer chair. Go empty your poop bucket, YOU STINK!
Ohhhh Believe your starting to believe your own shit aren’t you?
And a Minister do that?
ewww
The level of intellect in here is really just towering. It reminds me of when Martin Luther King rallied the nation with a rousing call to, “Wipe the stinky hind farts of the Mr poopy pantses”. You are truly an inspiration to the world. How can I resist voting for Hillary any further.
John Martin
As fast as you came in – please leave. So now you know, yes, we truly are an anti-Obama site. We will never vote for him. The majority of people here have been democrats their entire lives and are totally disgusted with the party.
Just leave and go back and tell them all the awful truth – WE WILL NOT GET OVER IT.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
Yes, and the south shall rise again. *yaaawn*
I’ll reply and I won’t apologize. Iave you seen the actual video of what Reverend Wright said? I have and I was appalled. You’ll not get an apology here. This is still America and we have a right to our opinions. But what Reverend Wright and others have said is not just a matter of opinion. It’s on video.
That’s “Have you seen”.
I will apologize when Obama does!
And pray tell….what do we need to apologize for? because your feelings were hurt? because we don’t like Kool-Aid? Because we are not sheep?
Tell you what. I will VOTE for Obama if you can give me ONE thing he has accomplished in the STATE Senate or in Congress!
Just one.
I’ll Wait.
One.
Okay….I’ll make it easier..
One position he has not flip flopped on
Just one.
I’m still waiting.
Please.
anything will do
nothing come to mind?
Not One huh?
Just as I thought. Another Automatron slinging his drive-by Obama love for all of us to see.
Go away. can’t you see you are dealing with angry, bitter, old, irrelevant,useless, Racist MoFo’s here. LMAO!
apologize for what? RedDragon; BO can “eat my shorts”. I have nothing to apoligize for and I think you don’t either.
OK, I’ll give you just ONE thing Obama has accomplished… and maybe a some more. *snicker*
S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
So, you’re going to vote for Obama now, right?
During the same exact session of Congress- Hillary Clinton 180 acts and resolutions! So tell me “Up your doseage”, whose the work horse? Hillary is the workhorse! Nobama is nothing but a show horse. Who reached acrossed the aisle more to garner bi-partisian support to end the dead-lock? Hillary! Whose own party members have criticized Nobama for tagging his name on legislation, doing no work, put showing up for the press conferences? Nobama the empty suit!
180? Are you smoking crack? Either you pulled that number from your ass, or you severely spinning some numbers. I’ll make it simple for you.
Drafted and passed by Hillary:
S.694 : A bill to direct the Secretary of Transportation to issue regulations to reduce the incidence of child injury and death occurring inside or outside of light motor vehicles, and for other purposes. (This is currently in conference committee to reconcile difference with the House bill)
Passed in the Senate:
S.CON.RES.27 : A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of “National Purple Heart Recognition Day”.
S.RES.21 : A resolution recognizing the uncommon valor of Wesley Autrey of New York, New York
S.RES.92 : A resolution calling for the immediate and unconditional release of soldiers of Israel held captive by Hamas and Hezbollah.
S.RES.141 : A resolution urging all member countries of the International Commission of the International Tracing Service who have yet to ratify the May 2006 amendments to the 1955 Bonn Accords to expedite the ratification process to allow for open access to the Holocaust archives located at Bad Arolsen, Germany.
S.RES.222 : A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month.
S.AMDT.666 to H.R.1591 To link award fees under Department of Homeland Security contracts to successful acquisition outcomes under such contracts.
S.AMDT.2047 to H.R.1585 To specify additional individuals eligible to transportation for survivors of deceased members of the Armed Forces to attend their burial ceremonies.
S.AMDT.2108 to H.R.1585 To require a report on the planning and implementation of the policy of the United States toward Darfur.
S.AMDT.2390 to H.R.2638 To require that all contracts of the Department of Homeland Security that provide award fees link such fees to successful acquisition outcomes.
S.AMDT.2474 to H.R.2638 To ensure that the Federal Protective Service has adequate personnel.
S.AMDT.2823 to H.R.3074 To require a report on plans to alleviate congestion and flight delays in the New York/New Jersey/Philadelphia Airspace.
S.AMDT.2917 to H.R.1585 To extend and enhance the authority for temporary lodging expenses for members of the Armed Forces in areas subject to a major disaster declaration or for installations experiencing a sudden increase in personnel levels.
That’s it. Equal to, even arguably less substantial than, Obama’s accomplishments. Another Hillary myth bites the dust in the face of knowledge. Don’t worry, just drink some more Clinton Cult Family Kool-Aid.
You didn’t stumble into this site jerk, you apologize for being an asshole!!!
said the asshole.
ON JULY 3RD (saw this on tm)
Hundreds of Central New Yorkers flocked to Hanover Square this morning to hear Sen. Hillary Clinton talk about renewable energy and show their support for Clinton in her first visit to Upstate New York since she withdrew from the presidential race. … .. “We will have a new president in January and one I am very confident will have the vision to bring our country together,” Clinton said during her speech.
The crowd of several hundred responded to Clinton like she was a rock star, using cell phones to snap pictures, hugging her, and asking for her autograph on any scrap of paper they could find.
but she didn’t say who that new president will be or from which party….
I noticed that she didn’t say who or which party because she knows we are going to put McCain in office. She knows she wants her friend John in the White House if she doesn’t rise. Unless of course Obama implodes which is possible.
Why do you have the same e-mail as other posters?
Because I am everywhere.
Impersonator!
Well, as they say, imitation is the highest form of flattery.
I am terribly flattered — until you say nasty things with my screen name. But, I’ll understand. You’re very, very angry. And I know, you are not going to get over it.
Well good now that you know it we won’t have to keep explaining it to you all the time.
have you read this about obama’s campaign?
what are your thoughts about it?
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/06/access-to-oba-1.html
I think that Obama is worse than Bush could even try to be. He is making so many flip-flops, he is afraid of any real news stories. He is a truly empty suit. He is just a marketing promotion. I hope he is like the pet rock, a passing short term phase.
I wish people would wake up especially the SD’s and do they job they were given with integrity.
We do not know what we are getting with Obama.
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia at the age of twelve. I forgot why I am here.
So you have multiple personality disorder and want to be me?
I believe so.
Believe…Stop talking to yourself!!!
He can’t. Bush took then all over the ragged edge. BOBO tied the strings to their wrists and ankles.
Obama supporters have been blogging to themselves since the primaries began. They also have multiple personalities..like the ‘faces of Eve’
You are a zombie.
wow thanks, sonia
There is a great post “PUMA CALL TO DNC DELEGATES” at Clinton Democrats:
http://www.clintondems.com/2008/07/must-read-and-pass-along-to-all-you-know/
someone wrote this on other blog —
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“Obama: Sounding Like Thomas and Scalia?”
http://www.blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html
Thanks for this article shedding more light – and details- on the Foundation where bozo worked for ayres – also for the Teachers Union leader’s support of reparation.
As you say, more teachers should and will find out about this.
Fleshing out bozo’s true biographical background is like re-entering a nightmare over and over. The more we fill in the empty suit the more ominous the contents become.
This article should be forwarded to the teacher UNION websites! ASAP
elizinsandi | 2008-07-05 20:04:23
wow thanks, sonia
FOR???
sonia, for the NY story on Sen. Clinton Thursday, July 3
OH OKAY –U R WELCOME ..
There is a video of Sen. Clinton on July 3rd here.
/www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/hundreds_flock_to_see_clinton.html
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/hundreds_flock_to_see_clinton.html
The realization almost always prompts a double take, a moment of inspection, maybe even a debate: Is baby-faced Barack Obama, the symbol of a younger political generation, actually aging in front of us?
By his own admission this week, “the gray is coming quick,” so that it now dusts his head like snowflakes. The laugh lines cut a little deeper, and the crow’s-feet around his eyes appear slightly more pronounced.
The presidency ages presidents, but so, it seems, has the longest campaign in modern history aged a candidate.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11520.html
funny we were speculating last night:
1) is he dying his hair gray to look more mature (ridiculous & pathetic)…
or
2) is he refraining from dying it black to appear more mature (formerly vain & now ridiculous)…
is either scenario “presidential”?
LOL I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.
His campaign now is to look and act more like McCain and to STEAL MCCAINS POLICIES like he stole Hillary’s.
What is worng with this man? He is mentally ill!
The country is sinking in quicksand with many problems and he adopts his opponets policy and stance to blurred the lines of distinction..I hate him.
He stand for nothing and is a big fat nothing except a preverted crook and thug.
Sonia, I was going to write something yesterday about seeing gray in Obama’s hair. But here’s the thing, I didn’t see it in his hair last week. I thought they were trying to make him appear more mature.
It is supposed to make him more competitive with big mac. Since big mac is wise, BO doesn’t want to appear too young all of a sudden..someone PLEASE..I beg you..stop BO!
o.k. now I am getting officially creeped out…he’s like some alien lifeform, adopting the ways of its victims…
kanda laaak Hillary’s southun draaawl, down thar’n'the ol’ confederacy. Gooosh, was that sickening to see the po white folks faaall foar.
exactly! his hair WAS NOT gray last week. let the mind-games continue.
we are all just being played for such fools.
our only hope is that just as his “new centrist” positions freak out his lefty base, his “new mature” look will freak out the youngsters!
He has ADDED gray. He might as well wear a wig.
http://www.hellnobama.com/
Re: Barack at Risk (Hayden is a Supporter of BO)
By Tom Hayden, 7-5-08
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080721/hayden
“Call him slippery or nuanced, Barack Obama’s core position on Iraq has always been more ambiguous than audacious. Now it is catching up with him, as his latest remarks are questioned by the Republicans, the mainstream media and the antiwar movement. He could put his candidacy at risk if his audacity continues to shrivel….”
Huffington,
Kos,
NY Times, & now even
The Nation!
wow — the progressive media are awakening to find their faux lefty king is evaporating…
poof!
Awesome. This quote is going up at my blog right now.
SHRIVEL? He He He. Snicker…
May 28, 2008
(Note: the following is the text of a letter sent by Hillary Clinton yesterday to all Democratic super delegates.)
Dear ___________,
The stakes in this election are so high: with two wars abroad, our economy in crisis here at home, and so many families struggling across America, the need for new leadership has never been greater.
At this point, we do not yet have a nominee – and when the last votes are cast on June 3, neither Senator Obama nor I will have secured the nomination. It will be up to automatic delegates like you to help choose our party’s nominee, and I would like to tell you why I believe I am the stronger candidate against Senator McCain and would be the best President and Commander in Chief.
Voters in every state have made it clear that they want to be heard and counted as part of this historic race. And as we reach the end of the primary season, more than 17 million people have supported me in my effort to become the Democratic nominee – more people than have ever voted for a potential nominee in the history of our party. In the past two weeks alone, record numbers of voters participated in the West Virginia and Kentucky primaries. And with 40 and 35 point margins of victory, it is clear that even when voters are repeatedly told this race is over, they’re not giving up on me – and I am not giving up on them either.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/clinton_letter_to_superdelegat.html
LARRY FOUND THIS
READ IT
MAY BE POST IT HERE
Excellent link. thanks for posting.
Comment by UKforDems | 2008-07-05 20:25:17
omment by sonia | 2008-07-05 19:46:59
thats b/c we have a official website for MCCAIN BASHING which used to work on HILLARY BASHING ,
IT IS
DAILYKOS=DAILYHATE
Also ,this website was always pro-dems but as media ,mydd,kos,became pro-obama …we here became pro-hillary ,got a problem –f off??
Now you are nothing but pro KKK. Makes me laugh that good old Larry is now as likely to be consulted on security issues in the future as a result of his new found factionalism as Sadam — and he is no more.
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That’s it . I am going back to the UK where our health plane is only second to Canada.
is this troll hour of NO Power?
I’ll come back L8tr!
Hugs to NoQuarter Patriots and PUMA Cats!
Take your health plane and fly anywhere you want just stay out of the US.
well I did not write the above post, we do not even have a UK “Health Plane” and I would not comment on the Canadian system.
We do not even have a health care “plan” in the way proposed by Hillary. We have a universal, largely free at the point of use, tax payer funded national health service. A service that has worked well for 60 years. There are no forms, no credit checks. Treatment is given according to medical need. There are no long queues for major or emergency operations. There are few queues for minor non emergency operations.
There is a flourishing Private sector market, with insurance rates that are significantly cheaper than the most basic of US Insurance packages.
UK Tax rates are broadly equivalent to yours (even though we have an awful Labour Government). We spend far less on healthcare overall than the US per person and have much better results.
Obama is ahead in all the polls. It’s over.
One more time Obama trolls:
USSR or Believe
Is Obama’s health care plan Universal?
Can you answer any questions regarding policy without cutting and pasting?
Or are you only allowed as paid bloggers to posts that you believe fall into stop the smears?
Please any Obamablogger!
No his plan is not universal as there are no mandates to force private health insurance on to the poor prior to reforming the insurance market. He will however be taking advice from the strongest proponents of universal health care – the Edwards family.
I don’t have a problem with lower-income folks not having healthcare insurance, but I DO have a problem with folks that have high incomes refusing to buy heathcare insurance. 50% of the folks earning 10 times the poverty level DO NOT BUY INSURANCE if they don’t get it from their job. These high-earners are a drain on everyone that does have insurance, they are bloodsuckers. You can read about this at (www.kff.org) The Kaiser Family Foundation, the piece is called “How Non-Group Health Coverage Varies With Income” The only way these folks will cover themselves is Gov’t mandate and I support that action.
have you seen the new online obama video?
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/another-obama-p.html
Help rid the elections of delegates and electoral college.
Honor the will of the people and count every vote. The popular vote is the winner.
http://www.marchfordemocracy.org/
Although I understand the logic behind this, getting rid of the electoral college would mean that basically 40 of the US States would never see a Presidential candidate. The campaigns would simply focus on the most populous City States.
Do all of us a favor, okay? If any of The Pretender’s trolls post here, let’s not stoop to their level if they post vulgar stuff. We’re a lot better than that.
RE: Hillary and tough schools…
Her recent speech at the graduation of the school in the Bronx…she said she had worked on opening a school as part of the creation of “smaller” schools for kids with education problems…
That sounds a lot less problematical than the Obama situation…
Remember the crowded Obama rally in Portland Oregon?
Well I’m posting the festival going on this weekend so you’ll see a picture of what it normally looks like.
People came out for the venue and not necessarily Obama.
Scroll to the bottom for the picture of this weekends venue event. It’s early morning so the crowd is not as thick yet but it holds 20 to 30 thousand people maximum. The news skewed the 75,000 for Obama rally. (this section is only a portion of the waterfront that spans for miles)
Obama supporters claim he had the biggest rally in history at the Portland waterfront so I’m posting the truth here. This crowd is every weekend in Summer.
This is a wide lens view and Obamas was a close up view.
http://www.waterfrontbluesfest.com/
Great shot! I could have sure made use of it a couple of months ago.
Steve Diamond: I know you hit a nerve and I really enjoy reading your writings.
Keep at it.
Steve Diamond:
What a great and informative post. I have long wondered about Obama’s views on reparations for slavery, as the subject does come up on other blogs on the posts of some of the more angry-sounding Obama supporters. So now this accumlated “education debt”, another sort of reparation, is another matter on which Obama needs to be clear on his position.
There are simply too many unanswered questions surrounding Obama, and that the MSM still seems not at all inclined to pursue anything beyond the superficial scares the bejesus out of me.
damn, i’ve been such a bitch since my son stopped ass fucking me. it’s hard to reach that infected rectal itch with a hand cranked ass dildo, ya know? I’m thinking about buying a big black dog that’s really well hung, what do you think?
Maybe you should start posting your thoughts somewhere else and quit smoking that crack!
Hey Hank,
Stay away form that. Man, that is some gruesome stuff. Can you imagine what that swine is doing.
Leave well enough alone. Pass over it. Watch out where you step.
Disgusting. Yechchchch.
Sickening.
Ignore it.
Obama’s a privatizer. Merit pay? That’s just privatization by another name. I can’t believe the teacher’s unions or ANY unions would support him.
They’re fools. He’s a Republican stalking horse candidate, a manchurian candidate.
unthinkable. elitist. discriminates unfairly against time servers.
I wonder if Obama thinks his net worth is a form of merit pay.
BTW how much were those avaricious ambitious Clinton’s worth after 8 years in the White House. Not much, IIRC.
pretend that was a rhetorical question.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/24/AR2007032400305_pf.html
They had legal obligations to settle, of course, but clearly they did not enrich themselves in office.
One can only admire Obama’s ability to turn public office to personal advantage.
You would think he had written Harry Potter. How many copies did those two books sell as of 2007? People don’t make pisspots of money on books unless they are mega-best sellers with movie rights. Obama’s success resembles George Dubya’s success as an entrepreneur.
Obama’s book contracts, advances, and publication history would be something to look at. What did he do, get himself an agent? Submit a draft to an editor? Has anybody done so?
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July 7th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Keyword: SNEAK
If Barack Obama is elected in 2008, expect to see a PUMA or two sneak into Congress. And expect a few Congresswomen and Senators to ally with them. Hillary herself will keep her distance.
Is this a trap? Fear? You better believe it, Buster.
~~~ sheesh, it really getting scary out there.
http://2parse.com/?p=538
Hi Patti –
I think you may have taken the phrase “sneak” in a way different than I intended it. Assuming Barack Obama is the nominee, and PUMAs continue to reject him and the Democratic Party – and assuming they do not embrace the conservative ideology – then it seems that to get elected to Congress without fully accepting the party you are running with, you would need to do a bit of sneaking.
As I think is clear from my piece – I’m not afraid of PUMAs and I think they may be a force that has some staying power. However, as much as I may admire their persistence and dedication, I think they are profoundly mistaken in their view of recent events and of the immediate course for the future.
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It sounds interesting but I am not sure that I agree with you completely….