Comments on: Slim Pickins: Meanderings of a Progressive Independent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:58:25 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: PAN230 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-432454 PAN230 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:39:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-432454 Perhaps you should clarify who you think the Democratic Party sold out to? - The truth is that Bill Clinton was elected by the people and he actually attempted to be their servant in areas of traditional Democratic Party values. He brought the party back towards a more pragmatic center, which permitted him to actually pass a decent welfare reform bill, a decent tax package that actually REDUCED the Federal Deficit, and made an honest attempt to attack the moneyed interests of our healthcare system. If this is selling out, I'll take it over Obama's shenanigans any day. Go find some history books to read. Perhaps you should clarify who you think the Democratic Party sold out to? – The truth is that Bill Clinton was elected by the people and he actually attempted to be their servant in areas of traditional Democratic Party values. He brought the party back towards a more pragmatic center, which permitted him to actually pass a decent welfare reform bill, a decent tax package that actually REDUCED the Federal Deficit, and made an honest attempt to attack the moneyed interests of our healthcare system. If this is selling out, I’ll take it over Obama’s shenanigans any day. Go find some history books to read.

]]> By: Tuppence 411 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431672 Tuppence 411 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:46:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431672 Joze- In my humble opinion, you are extolling the virtues of the "ACLU" of yesteryear, days gone by. Like so many of our esteemed institutions, the ACLU has adopted a specific political/ social agenda. All one has to do is look at the cases they take and their big donors. Left behind are the many other worthy civil liberty causes, left behind because won't promote the agenda, move it forward. Joze- In my humble opinion, you are extolling the virtues of the “ACLU” of yesteryear, days gone by. Like so many of our esteemed institutions, the ACLU has adopted a specific political/ social agenda. All one has to do is look at the cases they take and their big donors. Left behind are the many other worthy civil liberty causes, left behind because won’t promote the agenda, move it forward.

]]> By: Bigtime http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431563 Bigtime Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:12:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431563 Breath dude, air deprivation will cause senselessness. Obama is just dishonest, to the point of being rightwing republican like. Bill and Hillary have helped rebuild the party and country. Big difference. Breath dude, air deprivation will cause senselessness. Obama is just dishonest, to the point of being rightwing republican like. Bill and Hillary have helped rebuild the party and country. Big difference.

]]> By: JozefAL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431471 JozefAL Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:54:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-431471 Pagan, I feel I need to point out that the ACLU does NOT take a proactive role in ANYTHING. They ONLY respond when someone ELSE comes to THEM. Name me a SINGLE court case where the ACLU went to court as the aggrieved party (that is, the one which felt his/her civil rights had been attacked). The ACLU has stood firmly on the side of EVERYONE'S civil rights. It's so fucking easy to attack them but the fact is that standing up FOR everyone's civil rights frequently involves standing behind someone, or some group, who's not universally popular, even if that person or group despises the ACLU or what it stands for (the Nazis in Skokie, Rush Limbaugh). Quite simply, when you choose to attack the ACLU, you're doing nothing but rehashing right-wing propaganda points, points which have no validity in the first place. Read up on the actual cases the ACLU has participated in and the side which the ACLU has taken, and see how their stance enhances, even strengthens, everyone's basic civil rights and civil liberties before making such asinine comments. (Until MoveOn.org became such a shill, and apologist, for Obama, the group was actually very much in the forefront of promoting and protecting civil rights. That mission, as I noted, has changed since the February endorsement by the "members".) As to these "Nanny Staters", wouldn't a large number of them actually be more conservative, than progressive? The conservatives are the ones now wanting "big brother" to "protect" them from all the bad guys, whether real or imagined. They're the ones that scream "think of the children" when it comes to almost everything. Nudes in the museum? "Think of the children". Same-sex couples holding hands or kissing? "Think of the children". Exposed female nipple or male butt on network TV? "Think of the children". Bono says "fuckin' great" at the Grammys? "Think of the children". Usually, you offer some wonderfully insightful comments, but this time, I feel you've gone off the mark. Pagan, I feel I need to point out that the ACLU does NOT take a proactive role in ANYTHING. They ONLY respond when someone ELSE comes to THEM.
Name me a SINGLE court case where the ACLU went to court as the aggrieved party (that is, the one which felt his/her civil rights had been attacked).
The ACLU has stood firmly on the side of EVERYONE’S civil rights. It’s so fucking easy to attack them but the fact is that standing up FOR everyone’s civil rights frequently involves standing behind someone, or some group, who’s not universally popular, even if that person or group despises the ACLU or what it stands for (the Nazis in Skokie, Rush Limbaugh).
Quite simply, when you choose to attack the ACLU, you’re doing nothing but rehashing right-wing propaganda points, points which have no validity in the first place. Read up on the actual cases the ACLU has participated in and the side which the ACLU has taken, and see how their stance enhances, even strengthens, everyone’s basic civil rights and civil liberties before making such asinine comments. (Until MoveOn.org became such a shill, and apologist, for Obama, the group was actually very much in the forefront of promoting and protecting civil rights. That mission, as I noted, has changed since the February endorsement by the “members”.)
As to these “Nanny Staters”, wouldn’t a large number of them actually be more conservative, than progressive? The conservatives are the ones now wanting “big brother” to “protect” them from all the bad guys, whether real or imagined. They’re the ones that scream “think of the children” when it comes to almost everything. Nudes in the museum? “Think of the children”. Same-sex couples holding hands or kissing? “Think of the children”. Exposed female nipple or male butt on network TV? “Think of the children”. Bono says “fuckin’ great” at the Grammys? “Think of the children”.
Usually, you offer some wonderfully insightful comments, but this time, I feel you’ve gone off the mark.

]]> By: DeadEnder1 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430995 DeadEnder1 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:58:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430995 A little O/T, but what the hell. Virginians have always been about opposition to tyranny. Our state flag is here: http://www.50states.com/flag/vaflag.htm I'm a 36 year democrat, and am amused at snot-nosed brat-punks throwing 'racist' all around, intimidating people everywhere. Obama, Mayors Daly,pere and fils, and Gov. Blago appear to me to be the political mirror images of Al Capone and Sam Giancanno. And Patrick Fitzgerald is still working on the Monopoly game in Chicago. Since Obama has race-baited all the way through, and set back race relations in this country at least 30 years, in the process, I'll post this little marching song for all us southern Appalachian, gun-loving, Neanderthal, white, bitter trailer trash, Pumas. Southrons, hear your country call you, Up, lest worse than death befall you! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Lo! all the beacon-fires are lighted,-- Let all hearts be now united! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Advance the flag of Puma! Hurrah! Hurrah! In Pumaland we take our stand, and live or die for Puma! To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Puma! To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Puma! Hear the Obama nutters mutter! Obamanation flags in South winds flutter! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Chorus Strong as lions, swift as eagles, Back to their kennels hunt these beagles! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Cut the unequal bonds asunder! Let them hence each other plunder! To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma! Apology to General Albert Pike, CSA, for my modifications of his version of Dixie. A little O/T, but what the hell.

Virginians have always been about opposition to tyranny.

Our state flag is here:

http://www.50states.com/flag/vaflag.htm

I’m a 36 year democrat, and am amused at snot-nosed brat-punks throwing ‘racist’ all around, intimidating people everywhere.

Obama, Mayors Daly,pere and fils, and Gov. Blago
appear to me to be the political mirror images of Al Capone and Sam Giancanno. And Patrick Fitzgerald is still working on the Monopoly game in Chicago.

Since Obama has race-baited all the way through, and set back race relations in this country at least 30 years, in the process, I’ll post this little marching song for all us southern Appalachian, gun-loving, Neanderthal, white, bitter trailer trash, Pumas.

Southrons, hear your country call you,
Up, lest worse than death befall you!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!
Lo! all the beacon-fires are lighted,–
Let all hearts be now united!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!

Advance the flag of Puma! Hurrah! Hurrah!
In Pumaland we take our stand, and live or die for Puma!
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Puma!
To arms! To arms! And conquer peace for Puma!

Hear the Obama nutters mutter!
Obamanation flags in South winds flutter!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!
Send them back your fierce defiance!
Stamp upon the cursed alliance!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!

Chorus

Strong as lions, swift as eagles,
Back to their kennels hunt these beagles!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!
Cut the unequal bonds asunder!
Let them hence each other plunder!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Puma!

Apology to General Albert Pike, CSA, for my modifications of his version of Dixie.

]]> By: rwc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430891 rwc Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:30:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430891 FISA and the PATRIOT Act are both tools to extend Federal authority and don't do anything to protect us against potential Muslism terrorism here at home. Hell even after 7 years Bush and Congress still refuse to secure our ports and borders which make the PATRIOT Act and FISA a bad joke. Especially when you have people who can come and go as they please by simply walking across our unsecured borders. Alternatives to FISA and the PATRIOT Act would be to secure our borders and ports, restrict immigration from countries that support and harbor Islamic terrorists for starters. That means no more Saudis, Pakistanis, Iranians, Somalis and Yemenis. Expel those who are in the U.S. under various visas or overstayed and have been found to support Jihad and the imposition of the Shariah and or who support Hamas, Hezbollah or the Muslim Brotherhood. The first ones to be rounded up ought to be those Salafists who make their women wear a burkha. These guys are natural terrorist sympathizers because of the toxic ideology they hold. Shut down Mosques and madrassas here in the U.S. that are funded by the Saudis and use Saudi trained Imans. Where ever you look in the world where Saudis provide Imans, madrassa teachers and teaching material, Islam becomes radicalized and violent. Of course this would upset the Saudis who own large controlling interests in both parties especially the Republicans and would never be done. FISA and the PATRIOT Act are both tools to extend Federal authority and don’t do anything to protect us against potential Muslism terrorism here at home.

Hell even after 7 years Bush and Congress still refuse to secure our ports and borders which make the PATRIOT Act and FISA a bad joke. Especially when you have people who can come and go as they please by simply walking across our unsecured borders.

Alternatives to FISA and the PATRIOT Act would be to secure our borders and ports, restrict immigration from countries that support and harbor Islamic terrorists for starters.

That means no more Saudis, Pakistanis, Iranians, Somalis and Yemenis.

Expel those who are in the U.S. under various visas or overstayed and have been found to support Jihad and the imposition of the Shariah and or who support Hamas, Hezbollah or the Muslim Brotherhood.

The first ones to be rounded up ought to be those Salafists who make their women wear a burkha. These guys are natural terrorist sympathizers because of the toxic ideology they hold.

Shut down Mosques and madrassas here in the U.S. that are funded by the Saudis and use Saudi trained Imans. Where ever you look in the world where Saudis provide Imans, madrassa teachers and teaching material, Islam becomes radicalized and violent.

Of course this would upset the Saudis who own large controlling interests in both parties especially the Republicans and would never be done.

]]> By: juandos http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430711 juandos Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:23:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430711 My question is for all those who think the US government is being excessively intrusive (<em>and as yet to be proven</em>) is what do they have as an alternative for those who would use our Constitutional rights to facilitate their killing of us? My question is for all those who think the US government is being excessively intrusive (and as yet to be proven) is what do they have as an alternative for those who would use our Constitutional rights to facilitate their killing of us?

]]> By: roseeriter http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430671 roseeriter Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:02:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430671 Kerry still suffers from sour grapes. This election between McCain and Obama's supporters is a fight about EGOS only. NOBAMA! Kerry still suffers from sour grapes. This election between McCain and Obama’s supporters is a fight about EGOS only.

NOBAMA!

]]> By: gotalife http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430661 gotalife Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:57:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430661 MSNBC is reporting Obama is losing his base. Keep up the good work. MSNBC is reporting Obama is losing his base.

Keep up the good work.

]]> By: john http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430652 john Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:49:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430652 The No Obama/PUMA JustSayNoDeal.com Phenomenon http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=859qeM53M93X6k41HNBV The No Obama/PUMA JustSayNoDeal.com Phenomenon
http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=859qeM53M93X6k41HNBV

]]> By: Calypso http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430644 Calypso Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:43:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430644 From the Associated Press.... "John Kerry says Republican John McCain doesn’t have the judgment to be president. If that’s the case, then it’s probably a good thing McCain rejected overtures from Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, to form a bipartisan ticket and run with Kerry as his candidate for vice president. For the record, Kerry is not among those being mentioned as possible running mates for McCain." Wouldn't you think Senator Kerry would have the good sense to keep his mouth shut on the issue of McCain's suitability as president? But then "good sense" seems to be missing in Obama and the democratic power brokers who back him. From the Associated Press….

“John Kerry says Republican John McCain doesn’t have the judgment to be president.

If that’s the case, then it’s probably a good thing McCain rejected overtures from Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, to form a bipartisan ticket and run with Kerry as his candidate for vice president.

For the record, Kerry is not among those being mentioned as possible running mates for McCain.”

Wouldn’t you think Senator Kerry would have the good sense to keep his mouth shut on the issue of McCain’s suitability as president? But then “good sense” seems to be missing in Obama and the democratic power brokers who back him.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430639 anonymous Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:37:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430639 Go PUMA! <blockquote><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121539354782631403.html" rel="nofollow">Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton</a> Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.</blockquote> Go PUMA!

Obama Faces Resistance From Top Supporters of Clinton

Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, faces dissent from dozens of top fund-raisers and other supporters of former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who are angry over how she was treated during their bruising primary battle and are hesitating to back Sen. Obama.

]]> By: roseeriter http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430637 roseeriter Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430637 Typical of wingers-spreading bullshit from both ends. NOBAMA! No McCain! Typical of wingers-spreading bullshit from both ends.

NOBAMA!
No McCain!

]]> By: Perry Logan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430636 Perry Logan Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430636 Show me someone who hates the Clintons and I'll show you a degenerate. Show me someone who hates the Clintons and I’ll show you a degenerate.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430634 anonymous Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:34:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/07/slim-pickins-meanderings-of-a-progressive-independent/#comment-430634 More trouble for Waffles. <blockquote>Barack Obama has run an admirable campaign based on HOPE and CHANGE. A campaign that promises the American people a new level of transparency. So why won't he show the public his birth certificate? <a href="http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/" rel="nofollow">Barack Obama birth certificate Now petition</a> </blockquote> More trouble for Waffles.

Barack Obama has run an admirable campaign based on HOPE and CHANGE. A campaign that promises the American people a new level of transparency.

So why won’t he show the public his birth certificate?

Barack Obama birth certificate Now petition

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