I Imagine That Denver Delegates Will See This RNC Ad
By SusanUnPC on July 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM in Barack Obama, Electability, Flag officers, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Hillary Clinton, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Joseph Wilson, NATO, National Defense, National Security, Qualifications
This is the latest ad from the RNC. Unfortunately, it effectively encapsulates Obama’s flip-flops on Iraq as well as visibly displaying his hesitancy and uncertainty when confronted with the hard questions:
There is a reason that 30+ flag officers endorsed Hillary Clinton. See:
- “More Flag Officers Endorse …“
- “Gen. Shelton Endorses, Obama Thinks Rumsfeld OK“ (This includes the statement of Gen. Antonio Taguba who endorsed Hillary because of her strong stand against the use of torture. Gen. Taguba was assigned to investigate Abu Ghraib and had his career “shunted” by DefSec Donald Rumsfeld as a result.)
There still is time to nominate Hillary Clinton who has the experience and track record on the hard issues to match John McCain.
I have no doubt that, if it’s useful, the RNC will also make an ad about that one speech that Obama made in 2002, and the true story behind that ad:
See also, the true story about that 2002 Iraq speech, so little noted that it wasn’t videotaped or even covered in Chicago media, forcing the Obama campaign to “recreate” the speech, as reported by NPR: “The Staged Iraq War Speech & More “Creative” Embellishments.”
This means, of course, that we have to take creative marketing guru David Axelrod’s word for it that he really spoke those words in 2002. By the way, after that unreported speech — unremarkable because he uttered those words safely ensconced in a very liberal neighborhood of Chicago — Obama never lifted a finger or spoke out again on Iraq. That is, until it became politically useful for him to make a major production out of that single unreported, unrecorded speech.
Sadly, his followers haven’t reviewed the true history of that one speech, haven’t questioned the authenticity of its reproduction in a recording studio, and haven’t factored in that Obama didn’t make any further effort to aid the anti-Iraq-war movement, even when he joined the U.S. Senate — where his voting record is identical to Hillary Clinton’s, except that he voted FOR the ill-suited Gen. George Casey, while Hillary Clinton did not. … Joseph Wilson’s writings about his memories of those opposed to the Iraq War and Obama’s notable absence from any participation in lobbying against the war before and since joining the U.S. Senate [are a must-read].
We are certain that the Denver delegates, entrusted with a very serious task of nominating a qualified presidential candidate, will review writings such as these:
Former ambassador Joseph Wilson noted in an op-ed for the Philadelphia Inquirer, “Obama’s Illusions on Foreign Policy“:
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[Obama's] entire foreign-policy claim that he would be a better president than Hillary Clinton rests on the slender reed that he possesses intuitively superior judgment, which would have led him to vote against the Authorization for the Use of Force in Iraq had he been in the U.S. Senate in October 2002.
What would Obama have done differently in the first gulf war from what he claims he would have done in 2002 had he been in the Senate at that time? In 1990, Saddam was deemed a threat by the first Bush administration. Senior administration officials threatened military action while working toward a diplomatic solution. Congress was ultimately faced with a vote to support the president’s approach. Some Democrats, including then-Sen. Al Gore, voted with the administration, while a majority voted against.
Obama claims that an antiwar speech he made while running for state Senate in the most liberal district in Illinois is proof of his superior intuitive judgment. But if Obama had been in Washington at that time, participating in the national debate, he would have come face to face with Secretary of State Colin Powell, the same Colin Powell who, as Gen. Powell, was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the first Bush administration, the one Obama wishes to emulate.
Powell would have told him, as he told the other senators he briefed at that time, including Sen. Clinton, that the president wanted to use the Authorization for the Use of Military Force resolution not to go to war but, rather, as leverage to go to the United Nations to secure intrusive inspections. George W. Bush repeated this claim publicly.
Would Obama’s intuitive judgment have led him to defy Powell while still remaining faithful to his fantasy of the “wisdom” of the Bush 41 foreign policy? Perhaps Obama would have urged a summit with Saddam Hussein, with no preconditions, as he has since proposed as a means to “transcend” traditional foreign-policy methods with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran. Secretary of State Jim Baker did meet with Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz before the launch of Desert Storm, but this meeting was for the express purpose of conveying to the Iraqis the military consequences of not departing from Kuwait before the Jan. 15, 1991, deadline. There was never any question of demeaning the presidency by an unconditional summit for the simple reason that presidents don’t haggle. That’s why presidents have secretaries of state.
In fact, Obama’s understanding of foreign policy is extraordinarily limited. He has had one job in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee: chairman of the Europe and NATO subcommittee. He has not held a single policy hearing in that capacity because, as he said in a debate, he has been too busy running for president. He has not even taken a fact-finding trip or provided any other oversight.
As to Obama’s self-promoted “judgment,” which judgment would that be? Would it be to follow the path of Bush 41: tough diplomacy backed by the threat of military action, as in the first gulf war? Would it be to ignore the rationale put forward by Colin Powell in the debate on the second gulf war? Would it be to vote exactly the same way Sen. Clinton did on war-related issues since he became a U.S. senator, which he has? Or is it simply to criticize from the sidelines with the benefit of never having had to face tough decisions with real consequences?
The next president will be presented with two difficult wars, U.S. moral authority at low ebb, and unprecedented complexity of our relations with the rest of the world. Obama has no record whatsoever, only his utter absence from his committee responsibility. His claim to be the one true heir to George H.W. Bush is a misguided illusion and no substitute for offering more about what foreign policies he would actually follow.
Read all eight of Joseph Wilson’s writings posted here at No Quarter with his express permission. Those writings include:
- “Legitimate questions of judgment, experience”
- “The Obama Campaign: Consent of, or Contempt for, the People”
- “Smears and Tears: How Obama’s National Security Week Turned Into the Mendacity of Hype”
- “Obama’s Shallow Credentials on National Security Are Dangerous for the Country“
At the immediate moment, our chief concern is ensuring that we Democrats nominate a candidate who the American people will find experienced and knowledgeable about foreign policy.
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Will Obama SWEAR to NOT pardon Tony Rezko?
and swear not to”commute” Tony, Nobama’s Moneyman, Rezko…
It can really concentrate your mind and serve as a supreme motivator. If you don’t get elected president then you don’t get to call off the attack dogs. . .on yourself.
Think of the stakes he’s playing at. If he doesn’t get elected president, he could end up going to jail. Maybe even if he does get elected–although less likely…
Think harder Homer.
ah ha hah ahhah
obama is such as idiot…
ah ah ahahh ah
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
That made him look like a retard. Whats up with the DNC. They must want to loose or something.
Darryl,
The word is not “loose.”
The conservative fringe was always good at checking spelling and grammar too. LOL They also couldn’t run a country.
Wild Child, you rock my world.
They don’t mind offending people with words like “retard” either ….
I recall this came up a few times. “Retard” is offensive to some people. Please use fk-tron, twat, wanker, douche, idiot, poop alien, dumbass, or anything else that comes to mind.
Oh man…guilty as charged. Haha.
You know, I think “your” right!
Yes it is Uhhbamas morals and understanding of the nation that is loose, the DNC wants to lose
thanks for the lesson believe
now go find some fairy dust and think good thoughts….
Believe: any particular reason you feel compelled to correct someon’s posting?
They thought at least he would be their cash cow in their messiah… but now the milk seems to be running dry. too bad. That’s why they are trying something “unconventional” by doing a show at Investco field for $5 a pop. Sad really, democracy does have a price for these clowns.
Rick James says, “The milk’s gone bad. I wish I had two more arms, so I could give these titties four thumbs down.”
roflmao GREAT ad, but too bad they didn’t add this at the end, it would have been perfect.
“Obama “REFINES” his position on the Iraq War.
Thursday, carving out a nuanced military policy after saying earlier in the day that he might “refine” his Iraq approach.
“I have always said that I will listen to commanders on the ground. I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability” Obama told reporters.”
Oh and I love the sigh at the end, like “omg, this is too much stress.” Give me a break, this man is way out of his league.
Considering that Obama is known for being a spell binding speaker, the ones that look like idiots are the RNC.
hmmm so the black arts are involved? I won’t argue with that.
Make that “spell binding” teleprompter reader. Get him off prompter and it’s “uuuuuuuuu…….ummmmmmmm….uhhhhhhhhh…….ummmmmmmmm…..”
Ah ha ha ha
that’s funny.
Chickenshit bambi a spellbinding speaker.
heh heh heh. I know I shouldn’t laugh.
That purple koolaid is toxic.
Brain damage isn’t funny, poor bambibots.
What are you smoking?
that’s a twist. Obama looks like an idiot and you blame the republicans? lol! how long do you think that tactic is going to last?
you are a fool for even supporting this guy. he is a clown, an imposter, can’t speak without his teleprompter.
ha ha. the shine is wearing off the pig. can’t put lipstick on him, either.
Deval Patrick of Massachusetts had a reputation of being an inspiring speaker…look what happened with him. He hasn’t done squat.
Words don’t matter unless you have something to show for it. Obama has NOTHING in his record showing he serves the people. In fact, he shows just the opposite. Look at his ties with Rezko. He didn’t care about the district he represented. He cared about advancing his political career.
I realize Obama supporters hate being wrong, but you’ll learn to leave with it.
BO’s sigh and little laugh in the end is like dubya’s condescending snicker. Dubya and BO, tweedly dee and tweedly dumb.
He didn’t look so “spell-binding” there. Reminds me of Harry Potter. If you’re a wizard, why do you wear glasses?
Spell-binding. I would think if his followers realize that he’s casting a spell they would want to get away. But look at Jim Jones he was a spell-binding speaker too.
Enjoy the kool-aid.
he truly is a fucking idiot.
Denver Delegates will be hearing inspired words from Barack that your children will be memorizing and reciting in class along with the Gettysburg Address. What have you anti-Obama supporters got?
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You’ll have a better shot finding a job at Burger King and moving out of your mom’s basement before that happens.
I’m surprised the DailyKooks types are petitioning to chisel Obama’s face on Mt. Rushmore.
Why do NQ folks always make things up?
I agree. Move out of mom’s basement? Ha Ha Ha Ha who are you trying to kid?
The problem with your posts is they sound so cult-like. Scientology to be specific.
Why is it that you refuse to discuss any substantive issues or answer any questions on specific policies of your beloved Obama? Instead, you jump on to the next new thread and make multiple posts about what a great speaker he is. Look up William Jennings Bryan as to how far a glib tongue can get one.
I am still awaiting your answer form previous threads on these particular issues:
How will Obama’s healthcare plan benefit sole proprietors, small family business and especially thinly funded start-up companies (which are the traditional engines of economic growth and new jobs) that do not have access to traditional employer based health care plans that Obama is focusing his energies on?
What well established Supreme Court precedents have been overturned by the Roberts court?
How will defunding NASA for five years, as Obama proposes, not have an impact on leading edge research or jeopardize global leadership in scientific exploration and discoveries? As most new jobs are created from new industries, do you believe that defunding NASA will not have a negative effect on new job growth, especially high paying jobs in the technology sectors?
Health Care Question:
Employers will be required to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of the national plan. Small employers that meet certain revenue thresholds will be exempt. Those employees are then eligible for the National Health Insurance Exchange that says that insurers would have to issue every applicant a policy, and charge fair and stable premiums that will not depend upon health status.
Supreme Court Question:
Partial Birth Abortion Ban, Bong Hits for Jesus and the Seattle and Kentucky school integration cases all reversed previous court precedent. And this has been in a short time and shows a hint of what a long term conservative majority could do in the next 20 years.
NASA Question:
Obama has said he would scrap Bush’s moon-to-Mars project, otherwise known as the Constellation program. At an estimated cost of around $100 billion (laughably low in my opinon) to send manned space flights to the Moon and Mar. Obama, however, does support NASA’s development of the Ares 1 and Orion, completion of the ISS, robotic space exploration, and climate change research.
In other words, Obama’s health care plan creates a burden on employers to fund health care cost for non-employees by funding a national health care plan. That is classic income distribution and will add yet even furhter to the built in cost of goods and services sold by those employers, erode their competitiveness in international markets leading yet to further off shoring of jobs and increased unemployment at home.
Obama’s plan creates yet another entitlement in the federal budget. Current entitlements are 65% of the budget and quickly rowing. The government needs to issue debt held by foreign governments to fund entitlements.
$100 billion as an investment in science and cutting edge research and development that has a long term payoff in new industries and high paying jobs is a drop in the bucket, less than 1%, of a $13 trillion economy, especially in view of the competition in this area arising from China and Europe.
Of course, with any move to universal health care there are going to be entitlements. How else will you get to it? Locking poor people in prison?
Of course, tax credits and and an incentivized private insurance market with increased competition to drive down policy rates will give more people even better care as plans start to compete against each other to provide more features without bloating the federal budget with even more entitlements.
So those that cannot afford private insurance - even after tax credits?
Ever heard of Medicaid?
intelligence, integrity, honesty, common sense, experience. Will that take precedence over so called eloquence?
You mean plagiarism?
Just words…..
LOL!
A good strong grip on reality. Unlike you, apparently sweetie.
brains would be my guess
The junior senator from Kenya for President.
You folks really are a bunch of Republicans, spinning and oversimplifying. You can always clip a line here or there out of a longer paragraph to make thing look different they are.
And what’s the complaint, anyway. Do you want consistency in the face of changing circumstances, someone who will never reconsider how to achieve a goal? That’s President Bush’s approach.
In any case, Obama has been consistent. Try to follow this, because it’s not oh-so-simple.
He will withdraw troops but he will look at the circumstances on the ground. And he’s said this for months on end.
It’s a consistent message about how to proceed.
And that’s not complicated unless your goal is to not understand and to interpret everything in as negative a way as you can.
Interesting argument you made there to justify BOBO’s Flim Flammery. (Paraphrazing) it’s Ok for BOBO to Flim Flam because Flim Flamming is what the ever changing world demands. LOL you should make that into a commercial.
Over-simplifying again. Or perhaps you really do prefer a president like Bush who can’t change with changing circumstances and who makes promises that include no discussion of the need for adjustments based on REALITY.
Maybe that makes you feel safe, the idea that someone can make a promise that doesn’t talk about needing to make adjustments when needed. Obama promised to consider actual conditions.
Occam’s razor –
This is often paraphrased as “All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.” In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities. It is in this sense that Occam’s razor is usually understood.
Yeah, I know what Occam’s razor is. And in this case the simple explanation is that proof is provided by the fact that Obama’s said the same thing at least back to September 2007, nine months.
IF I wanted I president like Bush I’d be supporting BOBO. Bush went back on the promises he made to his cult like following too.
hey simpleton: simple is as simple does.
obama is simply not acceptable. he is a simple man with a big fucking ego. watch out, he will swallow you up, just like all the unthinking obamabutts.
Vote stinky for president! Wow, what a guy. a stinky man with a silver tongue.
that silver tongue will not ever beat the man with the Silver Stars.
No — I want a president who has principles that are non-negotiable — Obama doesn’t have them, as he has shown again and again (FISA, public funding, gun control) that he has none.
Yeah, consistantly changing.
It’s almost 10am on the west coast, what’s Obama’s position on Iraq and the 2nd ammendment? It seems to shift every few hours, depending on who Hussein Obama is talking to.
He’s always said the 2nd amendment is an individual right. It’s in his second book and that’s what he taught at University of Chicago Law.
Too bad there’s shit loads of video of Hussein Obama going on and on about how consitutional the DC gun ban was, lol. Nice try to reinvent history though.
It’s what I do.
Well, thank you for finally admitting it.
Obama also said he a few days before the Heller decision came down that he supported the very DC gun ban that the Heller decision declared unconstitutional. Is he fully supportive of the Heller decision upholding individual rights and still believes absolute bans are constitutional?
Still has to prove US citizenship.
Where is proof of McCain citizenry? Why have issues about Obama and not McCain?
He also does not have to prove anything to you lot. You have already said you will not vote for him.
You are an ass. Are you saying every child born on every military base throughout the world is not a citizen? And yes, if there is even a possibility that barky is not a citizen and he’s running for POTUS than he must prove it. You wanted Hillary’s taxes and got them, you wanted Mccain’s medical records and got them so suck me sideways and pony up the BC you hypocritical hag.
Actually, there was much debate on whether or not McCain was eligible for office. It turns out he is, but the issue was given serious consideration.
First off Bush is not the issue hear. As your supporters have said many time, “anyone is better than Bush.” To try to compare yourself to bush and act like you are better, is like comparing yourself to a dog–its a given, not proof you can do the job. Even if you were the same as bush, it wouldn’t make a difference.
Second, Obama has NOT been consistent. There is ample proof that he has “changed his mind” on a number of stances. This is not negative, you are just unable to face reality.
Obama isn’t going to give you the inspiration to get a job or improve your life. That is up to you. To hold your dreams and hopes in the hands of one mortal man is at best subordinate. You are allowing yourself to be fooled. You won’t see it untill it is too late. Grow up and stop living your life on someone elses shoulders.
And no one ever said he would. Straw man argument!
Then exactly what is all that spell binding good for then?
So your saying that his “hope and change” platform is a staw man argument. Thanks! At least you got that much correct. And that was the point of the arguement, glad you got that.
What a simplistic point of view you have. But it’s good to know that you just, you know, misunderstood Obama’s views. Although, frankly, it’s hard for me to believe that you really thought that’s what he meant.
LOL I never thought BOBO meant Hope and Change when he said it
How can you “think through” what a person meant. They say exactly what they mean. What he said is what he said. You can’t rethink for a person. Give me a break! LMAO.
Didn’t you know, Darryl that ESP is a byproduct of drinking the Cult-Aid? Obama supporters become mind readers, so they know what people “meant to say”.
Bush’s guys spent a lot of time telling us what he meant to say too.
Apparently, people in Michigan voted for Obama telepathically.
Yep, elect Obama — the guy who isn’t going to improve your life. Because that isn’t the President’s job, right? To improve this country and the lives of its citizens?
so then what has changed in Iraq this past week that caused Obama to change his mind of the past 6 years? please it is so obvious you are the intelligent democrat, do tell us.
***crickets***
He hasn’t changed his mind. He has always said that he would take account of conditions on the ground and make tactical decisions accordingly.
See this, as it has the transcript a 9/26/07 debate where Obama said the same thing as he said Friday.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/03/1182955.aspx
Exactly, so did Bush. BOBO isn’t getting us out of Iraq.
My butt hurts.
get off of it more
Nope. That’s not what Bush said.
“Any further drawdown will be based on conditions on the ground and the recommendations of our commanders and they must not jeopardize the hard-fought gains our troops and civilians have made over the past year,” Mr. Bush said.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2008/03/iraq-080319-voa02.htm
It seems to me that we are the one providing the evidence while Believe gives more rhetoric. Absolutely amazing.
All I can think of is that he is one of his supporters that 1. Never paid attention to politics before Obama. 2. Is young and doesn’t “remember” the past because he wasn’t again “paying attention”. 3. Is just a complete and utter failure in the long term memory department.
Her name is believe. Faith doesn’t require evidense. It only requires a god to worship. LOL BOBO is the one.
Drawdown not removal
Semantics.
At least this was Bush’s position since 2003. Hussein Obama hasn’t kept any position since 2003.
good try - go back a little further when Obama said he would start “removing troops on day one” when he had no concerns for anything but his words and winning the election. It was Hillary and McCain who said it needed to be done “responsibly”. But of course they were the bad guys.
From the transcript.
“I would immediately begin that process. We would get combat troops out of Iraq. The only troops that would remain would be those that have to protect U.S. bases and U.S. civilians, as well as to engage in counterterrorism activities in Iraq.”
There is no I would reassess the situation, or I might change my mind. He says he would IMMEDIATELY begin the process, but do it in a carefull manner.
that is not the same thing as
what he is saying now. He is now saying that he will listen to his generals and keep his options open.
Keep WORMing away, but Obama said 100s of times that all troops would be out of Iraq in 16 months after he took office. I heard it with my own lying ears. That isn’t at all what you (and he) are saying now.
Believe…
I liked you much better when you were just a dumb ass. Go back to the white sheet comments from yesterday please….
We like our trolls to be oh-so-simple.
White sheets? What are you talking about? You must be thinking of faux believe.
believe is lying. believe is knowingly lying, but refuses to acknowledge the truth.
Obama only added the escape clause in his November 2007 speech. Before that he clearly says that the war is unwinnable and that he will remove the troops in 16 months, except for a residual force. Originally, he asked Bush to start the removal immediately, at 1 to 2 brigades per month, which would have had them home for March 31, 2008.
If you continue to lie, believe, your valid information will appear to be untrue as well.
November? The link I provide is to a statement in September, which last I looked, is two months before November.
But now your claim is that Obama didn’t say something new on Friday. In fact, your claim is that he’s been saying the same thing for SEVEN MONTHS.
That’s the thing taking all side on a issue. YOU can defend BOBO no matter what his position is today.
I can’t help it. My pre-programmed bot screen gave me the wrong answer to post.
believe,
This one’s for you!
AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.
MR: So tell me, what has Senator Obama ever accomplished that qualifies him to be President of the United States?
OS: There you go again playing the old politics of the past.
MR: So accomplishment is the old politics of the past?
OS: Yes.
MR: So the new politics, the one Senator Obama and you support and represent is that you don’t have to actually have done anything to be President.
OS: Senator Obama represents hope.
MR: Hope for what?
OS: Hope.
MR: Hope for hope?
OS: Yes.
MR: I see.
OS: And Senator Obama represents change.
MR: What kind of change? from what to what?
OS: Just change.
MR: But it has to be change from something to something. That’s what change is.
OS: Senator Obama stands for a new change in Washington and a new change in politics, ejecting the old politics of the past.
MR: The old politics where you had to actually accomplish something
OS: Yes. And hope and change.
MR: But you cant say what kind of hope and change
OS: Not yet.
MR: Why not?
OS: He hasn’t told us yet.
MR: Do you expect him to?
OS: I don’t know.
MR: What kind of change are we talking about?
OS: A new beginning.
MR: Wouldn’t anyone represent a new beginning after 8 years of Bush?
OS: Not this kind of beginning.
MR: And what kind of beginning is that?
OS: A beginning of hope and change.
MR: If Senator Obama represents change from the old politics why did he use an old Washington insider to vet his vice presidential candidates and then have to dump him because he was involved in shady loans deals?
OS: You’re using that as a distraction.
MR: What’s it distracting from?
OS: Senator Obama’s message.
MR: And what message is that?
OS: Hope and change.
MR: Senator Obama broke his pledge to finance his campaign with public money, something he promised during the primary. He went back on his word.
OS: Sometimes you have to.
MR:.Why?
OS: To fight against the old politics of the past so he can do what the country needs.
MR: And what’s that?
OS: Bring hope and change.
MR: Hope and change for what?
OS: For what matters.
MR: What matters?
OS: Hope and change
.
MR: Okay, so what would be the single biggest change Senator Obama would accomplish if he were elected?
OS: He’s African American.
MR: That’s not an accomplishment that’s genetics.
OS: You’re being divisive. That would be a big change.
MR: But when the country elects the first black President
shouldn’t it be because he or she is the best candidate
and the fact that they are black be totally besides the
point?
OS: No. It’s about hope and change.
MR: Is it hope for change or hope and change
OS: Either one. It’s up to you. It’s all good.
MR: So it doesn’t matter.
OS: No. And he can unify people and bring them together. Help us over come the divisions that divide us.
MR: Then why is the Democratic Party the most divided in its history with almost half the party against him and
most refusing to vote for him?
OS: Uneducated racist Clinton voters.
MR: What flavor Kool-Aid is that?
OS: Cherry
Ha ha ha!!! You illustrate the depth of an obamabot very nicely.
nice work!
PUMA
nice work!
Course that AMWAY a@@ h***’s money had nothing to do with it “He will withdraw troops but he will look at the circumstances on the ground.
Got to keep the mercenaries happy, they’re not set up to scam off the faith based initiatives yet and besides Wright and Phlem got dibs.
Tell me again — What’s McCain’s position on paying “mercenaries” and keeping troops in Iraq?
Clear and consistent, that’s what his position is!
Taken from McCain’s website:
B: What I want is a candidate that is not borderline IQ, isn’t a fabricated empty suit, thinks before opening mouth, doesn’t flip like a fish out of water, is transparent, doesn’t hide his personal information from scrutiny, and puts the United States of America first rather than his ego. What I don’t want is a president with Marxist/Lenist core beliefs, the DNC insiders’ handpicked illegitimate, annointed Democratic Party version of GW Bush, which is what B.O. is. A deprogrammer might be helpful for you.
Unfortunatley Howie Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Donkey Brazier, Kerry & Kennedy don’t agree with you
Obama is a lying antidemocratic thief.
I don’t trust him.
You folks really are a bunch of Republicans, spinning and oversimplifying.
That’s why Republicans win elections…
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
When you keep going back and forth, holding two press conferences in a day to say what you mean about WAR, you sound like a lying, pandering idiot who cannot be trusted to keep his word.
That means you, Obama.
Is that why Republican’s win elections? You mean it is not because of who the democratic party selects for it’s nominees? Thank you so much for telling us the problem with the democratic party. OK everyone time to smarten up now, get in line, get over it, Obama is the Messiah
Plastic Jeezus is going down in flames.
Calling us Republicans, is that supposed to hurt our feelings? Is that the new talking point now? Where is that whitey tape and now you’re all Republicans in disguise? Did you get that talking point from Donna Brazilla?
Yeah, I’d much rather be called a Republican now than be called a Democrat, now that there is no more democracy in the Obama Party. If bots want to insult us, they’d best call us Obama supporters! Can’t think of a worse insult than that.
We don’t have to ‘interpret’ anything. Your boy spins like a top and he is digging his own trench. The Repubs will be the ones taking advantage of Obama’s inexperience and lies.
I really get a kick out of how ‘you people’ choose to brand anyone who disagrees with you and your adored and worshiped messiah ‘Republican’.
Our complaint is that after bashing HRC and after his people calling her every name in the book for her stance on Iraq, it now appears that Barky is starting to STEAL Hillary’s stand on many things. He’ll do anything to get elected. (Now, where have I heard that before? )
However, the damage is done and no one here will be supporting Barky in the General. Let’s see him get elected without half of the Dem party.
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
But when it came to tough decisions and true judgment, McCain proved himself while Obama lined up with Bush.
On Iraq.
On energy.
On faith-based initiatives.
On Afghanistan and Pakistan.
On FISA.
Don’t forget the Bush-Cheney Energy bill — McCain voted against it (unlike the rest of the GOP), so did Hillary. Obama voted for it.
Funny, I don’t support Obama because based on his position, I believe he is the one running for the 3rd Bush term. But if you want to call me a “Republican” then sobeit.
Why is everyone arguing with believe..a 13 year old on break from school who’s brain is not fully developed and who switched allegiance from Brittany Spears to BrackObama?
Q: What do Obama and Osama have in common?
A: They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
Q: How do you lose to someone as unelectable as Kerry?
A: “YEEEEEEEAAAAARRRRGH!!!!!!!!!”
I swear he must be channeling Steven Q Erkel.
I fulled expect him to say “Did I do that”.
they should have added the bit were the moron says “the commander in chief sets the mission and the generals follow” or something like that…
that was hillarious…
and then the next day he says well, i’ll have to listen to what the generals say and then follow their advice…
what a complete moron…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I said this yesterday in another thread. The Republicans don’t need any outside sources or groups for Obama. He’s done all the work for them, all they have to do is use his own video’s against him. The next one will be where everyone is standing and cheering for this country and he’s sitting on his hands. Followed by his out and out lie about extending health care. In Ohio and other small states where they’ve been hit hard, it will be NAFTA. Etc. He’s given them enough fuel to make 100’s of ads. The presidency is not an OJT position.
Meanwhile, McCain has given Democrats lots of pictures of him with Bush. Did you see the one in the new Obama ad? Bush kisses McCain on the head!
And of course McCain has plenty of other footage of him, showing him to be on the opposite side of most Americans on most issues.
two men in love
http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/barack_obama_jeremiah_wright.jpg
Rev wrong and Obama have been doing the dirty deed together for a looooong time.
That’s why Obama could not disown Rev. wrong until Rev wrong went to the national press conference and was talking so much Obama was afraid Rev wrong would talk about their relationship and the murder of the 3 gay men from TUCC..that’s the only time Obama disowned him. In fact, that’s the time that Obama dropped everything and paid Rev wrong a visit. He told him to shut up or he’ll end up just like the murdered gay men from TUCC. We haven’t heard from Rev wrong since.
Except - “My Country Tis of Thee, Sweet Land of Liberty”
USA! USA! USA!
Believe (me)
Barry is giving all us DEMs some pretty pictures as well…
http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/85_x_11_flyer-limoblackcp.pdf
LMAO…good one Duck.
Duh! They’re in the same party. Imagine that… not flipping off members of your own party or shoving people on the Senate floor.
McCain’s own party is making him more attractive to those in the middle. It appears that in the Republican convention, there are concerns from the ultra-conservatives about McCain’s liberal slant.
I feel that at least McCain is an honest man. We know Barky is far from that.
And while I’m on the subject, an active ’straw poll’ on AOL shows McCain ahead 66% - 34%. This is a consistent number running on every weekly poll for the past month. http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/07/aol-straw-poll-july-7-14
Barky has his own other issues, in addition to his lies and games. Any Dem with a brain in his head doesn’t want to be his running mate. Webb has said no way. The only ones who’d accept the slot on the ticket would be Democrats who are at the end of the political rope in their own states with no where to go, such as Richardson.
A lot is being made of this by the media, but when November 4 comes, I doubt that Obama will get a significant number of votes from conservative Republicans. No, they’ll hold their nose and vote for McCain.
Romney will be on the ticket.
I hope we see the one where he won’t put his hand over his heart for the national anthem, but everyone else, Richardson, Clinotn, Edwards, they all do. Not Obama. He hates America! RNC, use that one!
It has got to be so much fun to be a Republican right now. The only challenge would be, which of Obama’s many dishonest, unethical actions and words to use in ads? So many lies, so little time…
You gotta imagine what it must be like for those guys in the morning. It must be like winning the lottery.
A year ago they were seeing nothing but doom. Now Barry’s efforts to destroy democracy are handing out gifts like it was Hanukkah. Each day, a new gift.
McCain using NAFTA and the economy to smear Obama? The Republicans on the economy? I doubt it. People know what losing a home means to them.
SO UKie, you never said why you had to change your name.
Right. So when they hear that the Obama family got a sweetheart deal from the Crown family and that the state money that went to Rezco to rehabilitate the south side apartment buildings went into Tony’s pockets and then to BoBo, they will have a REAL picture of what a sweatheart Barry is, won’t they dollface?
I also said the Republicans would be fools to use the economy as an issue given how badly they score there. People know who cost them their job, which lost them their home.
The Dems are for corporate welfare i.e. the sub prime mortgage crisis and the credit market crash. If McCain comes up with a solid economic plan and attacks Obama on his tax plan, that will go a long way toward a GOP victory.
I understand the Republicans want to make sure Obama is the nominee but that still doesn’t explain why the RNC has been holding back with the usual attack ads. In a normal election they would be all over the place. It is not like them. Are they in on the fix too? Strange.
Oh, yes, the fix is in all over the place. :}
Gosh, Believe, don’t you long for the days over on Kos when there was one brave Hillary supporter and you and 20 of your BFs could bludgen him/her to silence?
I know the MO of this type for sure. Classic thug behavior.
One does wonder if the fix is in. I think it is, myself. the powers that be have actually already won. McCain or Nobama…same difference. Although I will vote for McCain, just to get rid of the Nobama element in the Democratic Party. When Nobama loses, Hillary will go to the head of the class and the party. Nobama can go back to Chicago. His shinning star will have burned out. And electing McCain will put an end to Nobama, and to this neo-democratic (faux Democrat) party. just like Bush has trashed the neo con brand and those that pushed that crap, Nobama will have sullied the people who pushed Nobama down our throats. Bye Bye Howard and Donna and Nancy and Kerry, and Ted K and Oprah.
Oprah has been drinking herself to death over this. That’s why she gained back all the weight she lost.
Ha ha, Oprah. There’s no chardonnay in hell. Weep for your soul, you lush.
One word: Hillary–still a threat.
How knowledgeable and confident did Hillary sound in that ad? Nice little hat tip from the RNC, thank you.
I think the same thing, but they are smarter then that and usually winners at playing this game. For one, they want Obama to come out of the convention as the nominee and we don’t - so why waste their money now. I even notice McCain’s website has less attack articles on Obama’s issues then last month. I also suspect the Republicans know America has short attention spans. Look what happened with the Rev Wright issue, it came to the surface before PA, did it’s damage and now most people do not even talk about it any more. Reverend Wright, Ayers, Michelle’s Proud & Ignorant comments, the Flag pin, talking with rogue leaders will be all over the TV ads within one - two weeks of the election in November. Why spend money all summer when all you need is a week or two of easy attack ads. I think we can agree, middle conservative America is not sitting here concerned about this issue at this point; the Republicans will be targeting them later on in the season. And let’s not forget that “Whitey” tape, if that does exist - that will be shown within days of the election.
The person who has the whitey tape will show it just before the election for maximum impact and so Obama won’t be able to explain it away. If Hill gets the nod, then they save themselves from having to show the tape and being threatened.
The Repugs have fundraising problems, the Conservative base does not support McBush and even Republicans have a hard time reconciling themselves to the last 8 years. The are a lot more upset evangelical God Botherers than there KKK Dems.
And as soon as the 527s come out starring Rev. Wright, all those evangelicals will be chucking cash at McCain.
Hahahaha I’m so glad they put in the head scratching and the “uh ah uh uh” at the end. Obama is Bush III! A complete idiot!
His poll numbers are rising.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/voters_perceive_obama_moving_to_the_middle
His campaign is brilliant, as always.
Read it and weep, you idiot Republicans. McCain has no chance.
Kerry was ahead of Bush even on election day in the polls.
Stick your poll up your ass. In November the voters will be heard. Say hello to President McCain. Cindy will make a fine first lady compared to Obama’s swine.
No he wasn’t.
You are making stuff up again!! That’s the NQ way.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/1970/
http://www.letxa.com/ohio2004.php
Man, instead of automatically discounting an argument, do some research. Kerry was ahead on election day.
that her answer to everything Just because believe is too lazy to do any research on her chosen One, she thinks everyone else is too lazy too. Or she just lies, like she does about the Obama house link
believe is only 13..what do you expect?
goo goo ga ga for Obama the latest teen fad.
Bo isn’t really ahead in the polls. They are artifically inflated, and the trolls are here because of it. If they actually believed he could win on his flimsy record and empty words, they wouldn’t feel a need to hang out here.
This is a statement that lacks logic because it assumes that the only reason to hang out here is to change minds and that anyone rational thinks folks here have open minds that are moved by evidence and logic.
Since neither condition is true, the statement is invalid.
You should reread the entire sentence. B gave as a reason for BOBOweenie attendance here at NQ…
They are “monitoring” NQ so they can report back to the captain and get a pat on the head.
“Swine,” nice! You PUMAs sure won’t countenance sexism, will you?
I’m sure that Cindy McCain would make a fine first lady, if it came to that — as long as they can keep her away from the Vicodin and oxycontin. LOL.
And yes, deny the polls all you want. And enjoy the ride this summer; you’ll doubtless have plenty of negative Obama advertising to keep you happy as you keep company with the lowest of Republican scum. But you are wrong — McCain is going to lose. Badly.
sfhillary,
Your words mean little because you said you would not return until November 5th and here you are.
I know. You’re right. My personal word must be considered dubious now. However, my analysis of the state of American politics has nothing to do with the question of whether I personally can be trusted.
How’s that you can be trusted on object regarding politics when you are a proven liar? What’s stopping you from lying about that as well? You still haven’t told us what your IQ is after calling Mccain low IQ.
Anyone can copy from other source. Just as you and Obama are so good at. Never anything original from your own thinking.
Word taken from others speech, policy of him stealing from others without any detail because he did not come up with it. Whenever people ask for detail, the anwser came from talking piont on Obama site.
If you know what your talking about, then tell us what he will do that will help average American in the next 2 years to save their home, job, family. The tax cut is full of it, since people who lost their job will not get a penny. People who had a mortgage problem won’t get anything because they need enough income to keep their home.
High energy cost will damp spending, cost job and financial hardship. A talk of people need to drive hybird and alt feul is BS when you can even put food on the table or keep your home. A plan for the next 30 years is just as much BS since you can’t hold him responsible after he leave office. Everything he propose can only work in a robust economy, which is not even close at this piont. Raising debt and devauled dolllar can only push up interest and have less influence on country that hold our debt, how’s that good foreign policy? How’s that good for economy? Give us a detail plan that will work might help your piont which I am sure that you can’t supply.
What’s your Obama’s plan? I am waiting.
Cheap shot for someone who poses as an intellectual. If that’s the best you can do, you can take it somewhere else.
I like how sfhillary chalks Obama’s lies and flips up to “advertising.” Like he’s not really lying, it is just a commercial. We’ll return to your regularly scheduled programming after this message from our sponsors.
The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.
doubtless? what’s that mean? Is that an Obama word? No doubt!
I thought the wives are off limits - or is that a one sided arguement as well. Who is to say that Barry has kicked his coke habit? Isn’t that the real issue.
Did you see the piece that GMA did on Cindy this morning? She’s an amazing woman and would make a great representative First Lady for America.
She has the heart of an FDR Dem..goooo Cindy.
I read an article on Cindy McCain, and I thought she came across as strong but accessible, a rare combination in politics and both qualities that would be an asset as a First Lady. She heads several charities which is very similar work.
It is a brilliant campaign. I love how they announced the big speech at the convention on the same day McCain went to CO. That drowned out all the local coverage McCain would have gotten. They are consistently on-game with the local media.
McCain did get local coverage, and spoke to a standing-room only crowd. Because the convention is being hosted here, there is alot of coverage of Obama, and the preparations, etc.
What wasn’t present yesterday was any substantial protest of McCain. The only thing the press seemed to pay attention to was the giant pea pod man.
There was plenty of press, including foreign press (I was interviewed by CNN Spain). The campaign staff was professional and welcoming (my daughter was wearing her Hillary T-shirt). Questions were not screened-no set up of only adoring fans at Camp McCain.
No one needs to lie about Obama, his own words and actions provide plenty of fodder for those who choose not to gulp the koolaid. That is the reality, though I realize obobots can’t see it through their hope-colored glasses.
Fraudbama is a follower.
He cannot stand on his own merit, as he has none.
He is a prop, a fabrication, a facade.
He will disappoint you if you truly believe in
him.
Absolutely. Every move he makes is one step ahead and it shows up in aggregate polling over and over. And what’s better, he is also well into the building and implementation of the most potent GOTV operation in the history of U.S. politics.
None of that means anything to the PUMA hatefest, though. These people here are just so clueless about actual real-world politics, it’s almost charming.
Indeed - on both the GOTV and NQ - and, as we know, turnout is key.
So lets all jump on the Bandwagon WEEEEEEEEE! Its fun isn’t it!
were going to need an ark to save us from the flood of tears if BOBO loses.
do you ever post at Blue’s place? There are a few good pictures of Barky’s Arky
And you don’t find that unfair and immoral?
Americans deserve a better shake than being upstaged by a kook such as Obama.
sfhillary’s positions are as stable and trustworthy as Obama’s.
Two days ago sfhillary said,
“Go have fun, spend the rest of the summer and fall spinning your insane conspiracy theories about evil Obama, then cast your ridiculous votes for the Republican. I’m through preaching to the silent readers here who are still persuadable. I’ll be back on November 5th to laugh in your faces and gleefully read your pathetic wailing about how the world has come to an end.”
Hmm. By my calendar, it is not Novermber 5th. sfhillary’s word is as reliable as Barack Obama’s word.
Be good to your word, sfhillary. If you leave until November 5th, then you can come back and gloat and have your honor restored. At least, you can have your honor restored.
You’re right. I said I was gone and I lied. I’m back. Oh well. Sorry. By this site’s general usage profile (a subject I know a fair amount about), I’d guess that for every committed PUMA who posts here frequently and will never change his or her planned McCain vote, there are a hundred or so lurkers who read but don’t post and whose votes are probably still up for grabs. I think it’s important that they read some rational discourse about this election and the issues at stake in choosing between Obama and McCain. So I’ll stay.
I have no fear of rational discourse. I accept that people can change their minds.
If you do not insult those who post here, I will keep to the issues with you. I am only rude to those who are rude. If you are rude to anyone other than someone who is rude to you, then you are defeating your purpose and you should leave until November 5th, like you earlier claimed you would do.
So goes the flip flop.
“I’m taking my ball and going home. You guys are mean.”
“Never mind. I don’t have any friends.”
If you were really interested in any possibility of people changing their minds, the last thing you would do is immitate Obama and flip flop on your words, just words. It is one hell of a reminder that promises mean nothing. Not to you and certainly not to him. And in your case you’re too freaking stupid to even change your screen name …. now that’s just pathetic!
Theories? Theories? No theories Obot. Facts just facts.
Sigh, yup, we all may be weeping.
Look, we are not being nasty just for the laughs. Everyone here is frightened of the downside to Obama. Maybe we are wrong but we are here to discuss real issues, not because we don’t have anything else to do, but because we are all, like it or not, in this fucking thing together and another disastrous four years will not do anyone any good–
What downside are you frightened of? Please be specific. I’ve never gotten an answer to that question. What exactly do you think he is going to do that’s so bad?
This is a very reasonable post which I feel the need to acknowledge as such. I spend so much time here (and yes, I angrily swore yesterday never to return, but I just couldn’t help myself, sorry for going back on my word so pathetically) because I too care so deeply about America, and it’s just so blazingly obvious to me that the Republicans MUST BE OUSTED FROM POWER. But I read this site pretty exhaustively and I simply don’t see practically any discussion of “real issues” — I see endless obsession over tiny scandals, character issues, rumor-mongering, guilt by assocation — all the nasty Atwater/Rove Republican crap that has been used over and over in recent decades. And when I bring up where Obama actually stands on all the issues, all I hear in response is that he cannot be trusted. As though John McCain’s flip-flopping on one major issue after another isn’t the most blatant we’ve seen in many political seasons.
Besides the complete lack of interest in actually discussing policy (instead of oversimplifying postions and using them as weapons), folks at this site are virtually the ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT McCAIN WINNING. T
he right blogophere isn’t optimistic, nor are the Republican pundits like Kristol and Buchanan.
And the raw optimism shown here, by itself, is very telling.
See what BOBO has done.
Stop talking to yourself.
Of course, it’s completely delusional. McCain could certainly win, but the odds aren’t very good at all. The war isn’t going to help him, the economy is almost certainly going to hurt him badly, his party hurts him badly, he’s a much weaker campaigner than Obama, the demographics are much worse for Republicans than they were in ‘04, his campaign infrastructure is much weaker…
If there are horrible scandals waiting to emerge about Obama (and I don’t mean NQ horrible, I mean real world horrible) and he becomes perceived by the general electorate as unacceptable, then McCain has a chance to win by default. And I suppose a major new terrorist attack could freak the country out enough to change the calculus considerabl. But those crazy events are pretty much his only hope.
It’s not AUGUST YET KIDDIES!!!
There is still HILLARY!!
get over your hatred of her! She’s the BEST WE’VE GOT AVAILABLE
and I happen to love her having watched her throughout! She did find her voice. I saw it happen. WE WILL NOT ABANDON HER! NOT YET! NOT FOR 2 WEAKER CANDIDATES!
Hillary 08
I don’t hate Hillary. I like her a lot. In fact, I voted for her in the California primary. And I think Bill Clinton was a very good president and that she would be a good president as well.
However, I do genuinely, deeply hate the current Republican Party, and think that it is absolutely imperative that they be ousted from power immediately. Thus, my passion for electing Barack Obama, whom I do not think is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I do think is smart, capable, a clearly good manager (based on his remarkably successful campaign to date), and the single most skilled politician I’ve seen since Bill Clinton emerged in 1991.
Then why even vote then, if you are unwilling to stand up for what you believe in. For me its a matter of principle.
We shouldn’t HAVE to vote for whom a party picks for us. I think all three of them should be running for president. ALL THREE OF THEM. you heard me. But it is people like you who enable the party’s to get away with it.
how
deep
does
the
rabbit hole go?
Curiouser and curiouser, isn’t it?
sfhillary, I’m sorry you don’t think the people Barry surrounds himself with reflect his judgment. To me these relationships are very telling. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Barry is already corrupt given with whom he interacts and his misogynist behavior also tells a story. The silent majority will select the hero come fall, unless Hillary gets the nomination. Personally I think it’s the end of the Democratic Party as we know it. Howie and company have destroyed it and we need to get it back and clean it up again. The really sad thing for me about all this: I’m not voting for the congressional democrat this election cycle - only the state legislators. I’ve never been this disgusted with the DNC.
Which war isn’t going to help McCain? We’re in two, and neither advantage Obama.
There’s Iraq. Obama’s judgment on that has been abysmal unless you count his speech that no one even reported on and maybe 1000 people saw, the one organized by William Ayers.
Then Obama missed three meetings of his own Senate Foreign Affairs Committee on Afghanistan, a country he’s never visited. As Joe Wilson pointed out, Obama never held a policy meeting on his own European Affairs and NATO Subcommittee. But now Obama says US troops should be immediately pulled out of Iraq and sent to Afghanistan and Pakistan to fight the War On Terror. They’re not coming home, in other words.
You have ducked and refused to answer any policy question I have asked you, and that is in response to another post of yours saying issues are not being discussed. So where are your answers? I have seen nothing out of you that remotely comes close to discussing an issue, just feel good platitudes that any candidate expresses…I’m for jobs…I’m for education…
Exactly. This comes first or we perish. We have plenty to do but hey. Priorities are to defeat this turdO.
Ummm, have you even read that piece. It’s about how ‘liberal’ the sample population polled felt Obama is. This was all before he started flip-flopping about like a dying, stinking fish on a dock.
What the heck are you talking about?
“During the Primary campaign season, Obama was viewed as politically liberal by an ever-increasing number of voters that grew to 67% by early June. However, since clinching the nomination, he has reversed that trend and is now seen as liberal by only 56%.”
What you call “flip-flopping,” actual political pros call “moving to the center,” and he is doing it with his usual consummate political skill, which is now being reflected in the polls.
So which position should we believe in. He is middle or left? At this point I have no frame of reference. I certainly can’t trust what he says.
So he’s either lying to the left or lying to the center or lying to the right. Which one is the real Barack Obama?
So McCain moving to the right of Bush to secure his base is not an issue?
McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade
I thought you asked about barky?
To put it bluntly
OBAMA IS A WAFFLER!
WAFFLES
WAFFLES
WAFFLES
EVERY MINUTE OF EVERYDAY HE WAFFLES.
Gallup has them within just 2 points. Obama 46%/McCain 44%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108700/Gallup-Daily-Obama-46-McCain-44.aspx
roflmao. Obambi is within the MARGIN OF ERROR for these polls. That’s hardly a commanding lead, in fact it is no lead when he should be ahead.
and there will disfunction at the convention. there will not be unity around your idiot.
so read your polls and continue to believe your’re rigth. IN the meantime, go back to the organge satan where everyone will praise you for nothing.
idiotic fascist little troll.
brilliant ? no, more like bullshit. he is tanking and buying his polling ….grow up.
I am so sick of you folks. I have tried so hard to educate you.
you weren’t accredited.
WildChild - Are you the faux believe? You seem to show up every time faux believe does?
Your next step is to post something really nasty. I know you want to do it!
I’ve only ever been me. LOL much unlike your messiah jelloman: BOBO the magnificent.
You have been OUTED as a liar, believe. Educate yourself. Do us all a favor.
Be. Leave.
If you ever made a salient point, that would have gone a long way toward education. You’re as dumb as any of Obama’s teenage supporters… “McBush” and “Republican is bad.” That’s not how presidential elections work.
Chanting the mantra that was taught in ObamaCamp Indoctrination is not educating.
Love that whole ‘education’ thing. Such a martyr, using Obama’s own campaign sign as a moniker, and trying to educate us, the poor pathetic people who are actually seeing through your candidate’s thin, faltering veneer of lies.
At least we are looking at facts and not living in a fairyland of promises and euphoria. I’d suggest you put down the bong before you try to continue to ‘educate’.
LOL. Don’t leave me, Believe! There are a lot of silent readers here who need to hear our voices.
fallacy of popularity. If you have good points, alone or in a group, they will stand by themselves.
If “believe” is your best ally, you’re in trouble.
YES please stay, your arguments will make it clear to even more people to vote for Mccain
roflmao. now trying to justify your existence? idiot. people are reading this blog not for your comments, but for the rest of us who know what is going on. you can’t even come up with anything substantive.
all hat and no cattle, just like your village idiot obambi. Or maybe it’s all prick and no substance.
This is actually laughable. You need to ask yourself: why are the lurkers here? Could it be that they are starting to catch on that something is just not Wright about Obama? I am sure however that you and your cohorts, believe, UK for Dems, Dose, and the rest, constantly calling people racists and Republicans is surely convincing them that it’s all cool with Obama. If anything they see the constant name calling and are even more turned off. So carry on.
so the user names like noobamaislamists, posts suggesting killing Obama and continually questioning how American Obama is are not racist?
Link to just one threat against Barky, just one. Larry forwards death threats onto the proper authorities. Most of them are flaming cowpies hurled by Obamabots designed to make No Quarter look bad. But most luckers who spend anytime here can spot a mole when they see one.
I have already reported death threats to the appropriate sources and will not link to them. (Why boost traffic to them) I will however point out examples of racism.
Reality check Mummy!!
McCain wins with this simple phrase..
Country before Party/Country before Self
Obama wished defeat in Iraq and refused to stand when the President told the nation about the success of the surge.
Shame on you!!
If Obama was a patriot of the United States he would of got up and clapped our troops and America’s victory.
Now Obama wants go to Iraq..
We have won the war! Where have you been Obama?
Sitting on your hands wishing for defeat and retreat.
You’ve posted this same thing before. The two posters that you quote are not regulars here. They’re trolls.
If they wanted to hear falcetto, they could go to myspace and listen to Frankie Valley.
WE ARE ALREADY EDUCATED NOW IF YOU ARE SO SICK OF US THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE? Buh Bye
I hope Joe Wilson will play in an important position in the near future.
…I was actually hoping we could get him to run as Governor, but I doubt he wants to clean up after Richardson.
Um-Uh-Uh-Obama 08!!
2004 election day polls
Obama is going to give you the inspiration to get a job or improve your life.
this is the funnies comment yet today. your hopium addiction is out of control
Faux believe, what’s the weather like by you?
Grow up honey. I’m the real deal.
Hubby just opened a 40 ouncer. We are sitting on the deck ready to go up for some good times.
Lmao. I love when believe goes “up on the deck for good times… back in a minute.”
You smoking weed for your glaucoma?
I knew it! I’d posted the ‘put down the bong’ comment before I read this far down. You can spot the Obamastoners a mile away. You smell them before you see them.
You really do care about imitating me - how sweet! Do you keep a sheet with the names of those you want to pretend to be, with some notes about them? Or is it only me?
hey stinky. get drunk and pass out. keep smoking the hopium, its got to be much better than weed.
don’t come back idiot. you are a disgrace to all women.
News flash… the vast majority here got a job and moved out of mama’s basement many years ago. We support ourselves and have real concerns about our future and the future of our country.
Believe, if you are not inspired enough to get a job and improve your life, don’t count on bo to do it for you.
The faux believe said that. I have a great job and a lovely house. And of course Obama never said he was going to inspire people to get jobs. That’s very silly.
Scratch that, I am not so sure of what I’ve just said.
There were fake UKforDems comments as well so you are not alone. You can smell the bitter rage from the fake posts.
You can smell fear in your posts. Mu ha ha ha ha ha. I love the smell of troll sweat… it smells like victory.
God provides my inspiration. Not interested in getting any kool-aid from the Devil.
I hopey he can find himself a job after he loses. And Michelle? Are they going to want her back? How many times did it take her to pass her bar exam? Or, did she pass it at all?
If you must know she graduated with a sociology degree in 1985, attended Harvard Law School and was immediately hired as a corporate attorney at Sidley & Austin. The law firm, now Sidley, Austin, Brown & Wood, is one of the biggest in the States. Certainly not someone to underestimate.
Do the Denver delegates care for anything besides not being called racists?
obama sucks. believe it.
I believe it!
AMEN BROTHER!
It doesn’t make any difference what the republicans throw at Obama, Nancy will stand by her man.
November will be a slo-mo train wreck and there is nothing we can do.
Someone should investigate exactly where Obama was when yhe said he gave that speech.
When even a lying dictator is saying your a liar who is selling change but really offering nothing but flip flops, we know you are bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSemkPChvHo
He even says Obama is a Muslim. Says that he is lying repeatedly to get elected.
oh nice, well if we can find this stuff out you know darn well the Republicans know it.
October is going to be fun.
Good smores!
Someone had on their website(one of the other PUMA sites) this video is a hoax. This video is not a hoax.
The site that published that is a non-profit 501(c)(3) group that does nothing but translates these video’s and posts them. She was basing it on the fact his mole was gone, but I believe several years ago he had it removed because it was pre-cancerous. I went and checked the last time he addressed the United Nations and it is gone.
http://www.memritv.org/
I have said this many times but after viewing the video it applies more so today. Barack Obama’s foreign policy is somewhere between Rodney King’s ” can’t we all just get along”, and Alfred E. Neuman”s (Mad Magazine) “What, me worry?”
Many bots are not going to defect against their leader because they are too arrogant to admit they are wrong. For people who claim to be so against the war and that is why they idolize someone who has no experience or qualifications, it’s quite hypocritical when a General endorsed Obama that thought Donald Rumsfield was ok!
Blathering idiots…that is all they are. They remind me of groupies like the ones from the Beatles era, fainting at concerts and Elvis concerts throwing their underwear on the stage. Yep, the world has always been full of stupid and illogical people.
And you didn’t like those young whippersnappers at Beatles and Elvis concerts then and you sure don’t now!
Thanks for sharing. And I promise I won’t faint at a rock concert (I’m 50, with a lovely home, a great marriage, etc.) and I won’t play ball on your yard anytime soon.
I can’t help but always talk about my home, work and marriage. It shows my insecurities. I hate that hubby is always out fucking hookers. I live in a dump and can barely scrape together two foodstamps.
I don’t know who you are but you’re hilarious-ROTFLMAO!!
If believe threw her underwear on stage at Obama, Secret Service would think paratroopers were storming the convention.
LOL!!
LOL
choke choke LOL hahahaha
LOL that’s an easy promise to make. How about something a little more challenging now that you’re fifty. Promise us not to faint when you stand up.
I work out five times a week and run 5K and 10K races. You really don’t need to let the body decay when you get older, you know.
Sounds great. LOL but that wasn’t a promise not to faint when you stand up.
Rock concert? Is that what you call rap now? LOL! More like crap concert. But what the hell can anyone expect from people who enjoy their blood pudding along with the rest of their damned soul food. Bunch of F-n vampires
glad to see there are still some people who show what this site really is.
There goes that pesky Joe Wilson again!
Writing yet another sensible op-ed piece.
Stop the insanity Joe! They can’t take it!
Your penchant for making sense has become down right embarrassing to the Democratic Party.
Oh, I forgot…they like embarassing flip-flops.
Silly me.
This isn’t a new op-ed. It’s three months old.
Obama is way older than three months. Lets throw him out too, mmmmkay!.
As for cedibility Obama is like listening to OJ Simpson.
Whoo hoo! I thought jokers were wild in this game. Easy on the OJ talk. You’ll whip the trolls into a tizzy.
LMAO - I’d not thought about it that way, but y’know, now that you mention it, he does remind me of OJ. Nothing sounds real. Nothing sounds truthful.
from Buchanan
Don’t Misunderestimate Obama
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Tuesday, July 08, 2008
With 68 percent of Americans believing George Bush has done a poor
job, and 82 percent saying the country is on the wrong track, the
election of 2008 will turn on one issue: Barack Obama.
If Sen. Obama can convince the people he is “one of us,” and not
some snooty radical liberal from Chicago’s Hyde Park, who looks
down upon white America as a fever swamp of racism and reaction, a
la the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the senator will be the next president.
The election of 2008 thus mirrors the election of 1980.
Then, the country wanted Jimmy Carter gone. Americans had had
enough of 21 percent interest rates, 13 percent inflation and 7
percent unemployment. They wanted the Iranian hostage crisis ended,
violently if necessary. After the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan,
America wanted a leader who would not kiss Leonid Brezhnev on the
cheek but reassert American power.
The issue then was Ronald Reagan. Portrayed as some Al Capp cartoon
of a crazed right-winger and B-Grade Hollywood actor given to
spouting Reader’s Digest bromides, Reagan was regarded as
ridiculous by much of the media and too big a risk by much of the
nation.
In one debate with Carter, Reagan erased the misperceptions and
turned a close race into a cakewalk. That is Barack’s opportunity.
A savvy politician, he has measured correctly the hurdle he must
surmount and is moving expeditiously to alter an image of him
forged by his own past associations and policy positions. In three
weeks, he has jettisoned his new politics in a stunning display of
raw pragmatism.
A prime minister must be “a good butcher,” H.H. Asquith told
Winston Churchill on naming him First Lord of the Admiralty, “and
there are several who need to be pole-axed now.” Four years later,
Asquith would pole-axe Churchill over the Dardanelles disaster.
Obama is not lacking in this capacity that Richard Nixon, too, felt
was an indispensable attribute of a statesman.
Samantha Power was tossed off Barack’s sledge after calling Hillary
a “monster” and suggesting Barack’s Iraq timetable was not set in
concrete. Robert Malley was canned for having talked to Hamas,
though that was his portfolio at a think tank for conflict
resolution.
Barack pole-axed pastor Wright and, though he said he could no more
repudiate his church than his family, shortly after the second time
Wright went off, Barack severed all ties to Trinity United.
Barack has spoken of how he cringed at the racist reaction of his
white grandmother after she was accosted by a black man on a bus.
Grandma has now been rehabilitated in a new ad as the loving woman
who inculcated good old Kansas values into little Barack.
When his own surrogate, Gen. Wesley Clark, suggested John McCain’s
war service did not automatically qualify him as presidential
timber, a storm erupted. Barack proceeded to cut the general’s legs
off.
His had been one of a few Senate voices to speak of Palestinian
suffering. But Barack’s address to the Israeli lobby read like it
was plagiarized from the collected works of Ze’ev Jabotinsky.
When the Supreme Court declared every citizen has a Second
Amendment right to a handgun, Barack stood with Justice Scalia.
When Scalia said the court ought not to have taken away Louisiana’s
right to execute child rapists, Barack was with him again.
When Congress voted the telecoms immunity from prosecution for
colluding with the Bush administration in wiretapping citizens,
Barack stood with Bush and the telecoms. Fearing it might cost him
his huge money-raising advantage over McCain, Barack tossed
campaign finance reform over the side.
In Ohio, Barack was a populist opponent of NAFTA. He is now a
free-trader. Yet when economic adviser Austan Goolsbee told the
Canadians pretty much the same thing, Barack disinherited him.
As July 4 approached, Barack gratuitously dissed his friends at
MoveOn.org for their “General Betray Us” ad mocking Gen. David
Petraeus. And that flag pin Barack got rid of after 9-11, calling
it a “substitute … for real patriotism”? It’s back on the lapel.
Last week, Barack said that, after he meets with Petraeus and his
field commanders in Iraq, he might “refine” his commitment to
withdraw all U.S. combat brigades within 16 months.
And finally, Obama has co-opted President Bush’s faith-based
initiative and claimed it as his own.
What is Obama up to? Having secured the nomination, he is moving to
convince the nation he is neither a black militant nor a radical,
but a man of the center who will even listen to the right.
Though infuriating to readers of The Huffington Post, this may save
Barack. For in Middle America folks worry less about politicians
adjusting positions than about True Believers willing to go over
the cliff with flags flying — and taking us with them.
Reagan was no Barry Goldwater. He knew when to “hold ‘em,” and he
knew when to “fold ‘em.” Yet, America still knew who Reagan was.
We may be misunderestimating Barack. But the question of 2008
remains: When all is said and done, who is this guy?
SOURCE:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=MVDA3&m=1adJHdf2R1xN9f&b=F36llykHNIcXHcojC1AELg
The real Gina would get the subtext of that article. Pat Buchanan is saying Obama might be despicable and Nixonian on many levels, but he is an anti-Israel pro-Arab Jew hater like many of his Chicago associates. Obama is not one of “us”, but neither is Pat Buchanan.
Now this site is getting stupid
Would the real “Hope Floats” say that?
You do know that Joe Wilson piece was published THREE MONTHS AGO, don’t you? It’s not his current thinking. He’s endorsed Obama since then.
Three months is too long of a time to hold on to an opinion.
He wrote it as a Clinton supporter. He now supports Obama because he knows the damage McCain would do.
John might cut back bushes Faith program give aways. Then who would you worship?
show me a link where Joe supports Obama
ha ha ha ha haha ha hahahahah hah ha ha
no he hasn’t, liar. hey , keep your promise and go out on your deck with hubby and start drinking. we have more important things to do here than listening to your crap lies and smelling your dirty underwear.
Obama now claims the national anthem is too threatening and he wants to change it. He thinks foreigners are put off by the bombs. GO AWAY NOBAMA!! WE HATE YOU!!
Pure bullshit.
BTW, that ad isn’t airing anywhere. It’s an internet ad. No one pays to air ads that amateurish.
You mean like ALL the ads NOblahma ran that didn’t get people to vote for him because they were amateurish?? Money well spent eh?? LOL!
Oh my…what “silly politics” make you do!
PUMA!
I’m starting to “BELIEVE” it’s not an Obamabot/phile/tron at all but in fact a Republican Troll keeping the flames fanned over here so we stay just angry enough to keep the fight alive until Nov.
None of the Obama voters I knew (from the dnc open thread or in person which are few admittedly) would spend their time on an obvious pro Hillary borderline Repugnant Blog as they would never change minds and MOST real democrats are passive or bordering that way.
Ok it’s my theory. Rove are you having fun at the HILLARY voters expense? fk off will ya and quit trying to brainwash these naive pacifist leaf eaters!!! They aren’t well formed yet. You will turn them cynical way too early!!! Shame on you.
I am speechless.
Comment by believe | 2008-07-08 12:29:26
I am speechless.
(and I have a lovely home… with a deck !!! )
And I never lived in my parents’ basement!
It’s reaaly a lovely home….
(and nice people in white jackets.)
Just ask BO, I’m sure he has speech somewhere for you.
Your statement is a performative contradiction. If you were speechless, there would be no text.
Thank you for providing this educational opportunity.
Please follow your own advice and go educate yourself. Be. Leave.
Thank God for small blessings.
This isn’t a pro-Hillary site at all. In fact, the things said here policy-wise are usually opposite of what Clinton thinks, particularly all those references to socialized medicine. And yesterday some folks called Jesse Helms a hero. Those aren’t Clinton Democrats blogging. They’re Republicans.
Divided government works. We saw what happened when we had a republican president and a republican rubber stamp masquerading as a congress. The last thing this country needs is the world according to BOBO and the BOBOweeinies.
But you would have been ok with a Democratic president Clinton, right? So it seems that your support for divided government is rather conditional.
In the absence of a liberal on the ticket it’s the only defense a liberal has. Bill Clinton is a liberal as is Hillary. You BOBOweenies consider them racists and neo-cons. We need divided government to protect us from you.
Clinton would have made her fellow democrats work, and walk their talk. but dean and pelosi, reid, kerry, kennedy, and all those losers actually don’t want to work.
for once the dems would have a backbone.
they don’t want that. they want the bobo blank slate white guilt appeasing idiot with money and youngsters fawning over him. they want the uncritical supporters who can’t think for themselves.
“Socialized medicine” is a Republican criticism of UHC that Obama used in the Democratic primaries. Hillary supported single payer healthcare. Obama wants mandates for children and an expansion of Medicaid.
Watch SICKO. If you can get a President who supports getting Medicaid to at least Canadian standards we are getting somewhere.
so do they dub in an Irish accent when you rent that in Ireland?
“Dawnelle”, take a chill pill.
If Obama hadn’t given the Dems something to be angry with, this would have been an easy election. I think Karl Rove is a brilliant strategist, but he couldn’t have made the DNC do anything it didn’t want.
We know Republicans are assholes. This year they’re our assholes. It’s our homage to “Be a Democrat For a Day.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself, HopeFloats. But alas, I’m no longer a Dem. I left the party after being a Dem for all of my voting life (36 years). I’m now an independent looking for a party that is actually honest and actually cares about it’s members.
I take enough pills for my disability thank you!
Rove is an EVIL man. FK brilliant! Intellect means little when you use it for bad purposes.
Obama bamboozled a LOT of the Deaniacs and Kerry worshippers. My cousin used the same damn word to describe OBAMA! He said Barack was Brilliant!!
I’m LMAO about BOTH references! SO what!! And they are MEN and they are over 40. And they’re wealthy. STILL doesn’t make them worthy.
I’m still not at the point where I will adopt a pet Repug for a day! Not yet. Well, maybe if it’s Chuck.
hubba hubba!
It’s rather insulting to millions of people to suggest that because they disagree with you, they aren’t thinking. Maybe they just think different things. Have you considered that?
you BOBOweenies think Bill and Hillary are racists and Neo-cons. You aren’t thinking.
poor believe,
The video that will sink Obama is at the state of the union address when Bush proclaimed the surge a success.
Hillary like the true patriot got up and clapped while Obama just sat on his hands like the appeaser and defeatist he is.
What is clear is that Obama wished defeat in Iraq so that he could be president
Then, the reverse is also true, so I’ll make a deal with you. You think the way you want to think, and I’ll think the way I want to think and we’ll leave each other alone.
Well, it’s rather insulting that you feel you have to EDUCATE us. Y’know, you should go back to hubby and have your fun and leave the serious stuff to those of us who ARE educated and ARE questioning everything we read and see. You won’t find Obamasheeple here who just go ga-ga at a glimpse of your messiah.
Be. Leave. Yah, I like that one, SM.
The preachy, condescending believe must be here at all times to persuade the “lurkers.” Obama does not brook dissent. All will fall in line and accept the superiority of He-Who-Shall-Remain-Unnamed-But-Is-Not-a-Muslim.
hey racist troll! hope you enjoy your last posting privileges.
I’m also very good at ignoring narcissistic trolls
Awww, Dawnelle! Aren’t you envious about the deck, the doobie, the yard, the relationship, the jogging?
Y’know, I think most all of us here are successful 50-somethings and 60-somethings, who are ashamed of our own party. We’ve done the work and laid the groundwork and feel we should be winning this election. However, we won’t because of a greedy group of worms who have decided to steal the party and make it their own. This group of worms has attracted like characters - marginal members of society, slackers, stoners, habitual losers - who feel that Obama is the ‘blank slate’ that they can believe in.
It’s pretty sickening, isn’t it Dawnelle?
I think I’m not going to waste anymore energy on trolls either. It’s rather clear that they are just mean spirited thugs who now have no real place to belong. They are bored now that the Clinton supporters have deserted the trolls’ message boards and blogs after the continued bashing by Obama zealots. They’re like roaming gangs, looking for someone to beat up.
Sad. Pathetic.
No one stole anything. Obama won two-thirds of the contests. Clinton won one-third. Obama’s winning margins were larger than Clinton’s, on average. So he got more pledged delegates.
I know you’re disappointed that the supers didn’t overturn the pledged delegates but that was never going to happen. The whole thing was done after Wisconsin but Clinton refused to admit it and she told her supporters otherwise. What a shame that she couldn’t do what other losing candidates who are out of money do — be honest with herself and her supporters.
BOBO surely stole four of Hilary MI delegates and was prepared to take more.
And Barky also supported the DNC in giving Florida only half of our votes. Barky is a true patriot? NOT. He’s as bad as Bush - maybe worse ’cause he turned on his own party.
A crook is a crook is a crook. A thief is a thief is a thief. And Barky is all of the above.
Obama did not steal them. He was given them. The Hillary campaign had a MAJORITY on the RBC. They set the rules her campaign broke.
If Penn had not been so rubbish she would have clearly won. She started massively ahead, had almost all the super delegates. He should refund the Hillary campaign.
receiving stolen merchandise is considered stealing in the US.
Ask the Weather Underground people who served jail time for driving cars full of explosives while Ayers and Dohrn robbed banks, shot cops and set off bombs. It must have smarted just a little that those two went “free as a bird and guilty as sin.”
oh and BOBO pushed for stealing those delegates. BOBO wasn’t some innocent waif that stumbled on a bag of delegates while skipping down the road.
You can believe what you wish to believe. You will not change anyone’s views. We know how Obama did it, even if you don’t or refuse to believe it. He certainly has you fooled.
Clinton is true to her supporters. Her supporters WANTed her to continue to run by donating to her campaign. Nobody strong-armed us.
One thing Obama is good at is sweet talking people into emptying their pockets for him - or maybe that isn’t true either because he surely has the backing of big money. He spent an obscene amount of money on TV ads - literally bought himself the nomination. No wonder TV stations loved Obama (maybe money changed hands under the table there too). Even if 10% of that money had gone into improving the housing conditions of those slumlord-run apartment blocks in his district, it would have made a difference.
Winning is everything to Obama - he just likes the sound of being called President, even if he knows, in his heart of hearts, he has no qualifications and will fail miserably. What a jerk.
So using the internet to outraise your opponent is a bad thing? The donation link was not even prominent on the Hillary site until much later in the campaign. The biggest campaign money prominence being given to the Elton John “one night for hillary” raiser, and her hillraisers.
Using the internet to take money from foreigners is illegal. Maureen Dowd must be doing penance for her hatefulness by having to report on Obama’s latest fundraising scandal.
There you go again. When you find everyone disagrees with your view of the world, then they’re all Republicans. That’s the fav tactic of the Obamabots on the orange boards. “If you don’t see things my way, then you’re a REPUBLICAN. Quick! Mods! Ban him!”
Yup. Some ‘liberals’.
Well, Democrats don’t say Jesse Helms a hero or refer to government involvement in the health care system as socialized medicine, certainly not any who supported Clinton for president.
Got any examples of that from this thread? Or are we taking this on faith?
Who said that? I don’t remember anyone on here even mentioning Jesse Helms’ passing.
Link? I’d like to see a link where that happened here.
We really don’t like it when people talk out their asses here.
The following is supplied by Marc Rubin and it would be interesting if this ad were made and in relations to the ad leading off this section.
OPEN ON BLACK AND WHITE STILL OF McCAIN LYING PRONE IN A NORTH VIETNAMESE PRISON CAMP.
VO: For 4 years John McCain stood up for America as a POW in a North Vietnamese prison camp refusing under torture to make anti- American statements to be used as propaganda, never knowing when any given day might be his last.
INTERCUT VARIOUS SHOTS OF OBAMA AND JEREMIAH WRIGHT EMBRACING AND SMILING, THEN WRIGHT ON HIS PULPIT RAILING WITH ONE OF HIS SERMONS.
V.O: For 17 years Barack Obama wouldn’t stand up for America against the anti-American statements made by his own pastor in his church on the south side of Chicago until his political ambitions made it neccessary.
TWO STILLS SIDE BY SIDE - A B&W STILL OF McCAIN AS POW - OBAMA AND WRIGHT SMILING FOR THE CAMERA.
V.O.: Years before asking anyone for a single vote each made a choice. On November 4th it will be time to make yours.
FREEZE FRAME: McCAIN IN HIS DRESS WHITE NAVY UNIFORM ON CRUTCHES GETTING A MEDAL.
SUPER: John McCain For President.
SFX: Wright(V.O):”On September 11th the chickens came home to roost..”
See you in Denver.
thanks, it’s coming. We just all need to be patient. If the bots thought their precious was so infalliable they wouldn’t be on here blathering.
Wow!!! That would be one terrific ad!
How about a photo of Rev Wright protecting Lyndon Johnson or serving in the Marines? His history is hardly anti-American?
In 1961 Wright left college and joined the United States Marine Corps and became part of the 2nd Marine Division attaining the rank of private first class. In 1963, after two years of service, Wright joined the United States Navy and entered the Corpsman School at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center.
Wright was then trained as a cardiopulmonary technician at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. Wright was assigned as part of the medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson. Before leaving the position in 1967, the White House Physician, Vice Admiral Burkley, personally wrote Wright a letter of thanks on behalf of the United States President
The Dems have known who Rev. Wright was for a long time. They’ve also known about his over-caffeinated sermons GODDAMN AMERICA KKK and “Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger!” It kind of hovers in the air when you’re in the voting booth.
Over 4,000 dead (Thanks, Hillary! Good work, John!) and the worst thing Obama can be criticized for is abandoning the stupid sixteen month timetable? Good luck with that.
We could criticize him for nearly setting off an international incident by unilaterally declaring to the American-Israeli PAC one day that as President he would change the foreign policy of the U.S. and her allies by guaranteeing a united Jerusalem, which promise incited protest by Palestinian groups in the Middle East. We could further criticize him for undermining the legitimacy of anything he says when it comes to diplomacy, when he instituted a ‘take-back’ the next day, clarifying the incendiary remarks he had made just the day before.
Yeah and Condi Rice had to drop everything and pay a visit to Isreal to calm their fears due to what Obama said.
Nice huh?
We’ll never know exactly how many lives have been saved in the long run by taking Saddam out, but I can guarantee you that the number of innocent people who will not now have to die in the prisons or rape rooms of Saddam and his sons over the next several decades is MUCH higher than 4,000. And that doesn’t even begin to consider how many lives won’t now be lost in a future WMD attack facilitated by Saddam somewhere in the world. As the 500 metric tons of yellowcake uranium that were removed from Iraq last week clearly shows, Saddam had every intention on re-starting his WMD programs as soon as the world’s attention had wandered elsewhere. Anyone who seriously believes otherwise is a fool.
The day that bastard swung from the end of a rope was a damn GOOD day! He should have been taken out in 1991. The world is much, much better off without him running the show in Iraq.
But while we’re on the subject, why don’t you go look up the total number of US military fatalities during the first four years of Bill Clinton’s presidency? You might be surprised at just how many there were.
That is 4000 US deaths. How many UK deaths? How many Iraqi deaths?
Bush lost America its place in the world. Legalising torture. I am sure Iraqis feel much happier being tortured and humiliated by Americans in Abu Gharib than by Sadam. He should be impeached.
I’m not trying to be insensitive here, or negate those 4,000 deaths, but as wars usually go, that’s a pretty low casualty rate. There were approx. 300,000 U.S. soldiers killed in World War II (approx. 600,000 wounded). In Vietnam, we had 47,378 U.S. soldiers killed.
Viet nam was 56-57 thousand..
Your candidate has a weak grasp of foreign policy, if you believe Hillary voted to go to war, and Obama somehow gave you that impression. The resolution “supported” and “encouraged” diplomatic efforts by President Bush to “strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq” and “obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.”
The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States “as he determines to be necessary and appropriate” in order to “defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.”
“believe” is the only voice of reason on this site.
I think you me re-Son, the Second Coming of the Messiah!
Now that was a really brave video I just saw. Get the man on camera, ask him a question, and then cut him off before he can answer. The fact that he hesistated a little before answering doesn’t mean he did’nt give a full and effective answer. You right wingers are too desperate to realize that your every attempt to unfairly christicize this man keeps blowing right back into your own faces.
James…
Let me answer you on this…
Uuuhm..uuuhm….uuuuuhm..
You are virtually the only people in the world who thinks Obama is a poor speaker!
BOBO’s great with a script. He’s stuttering John without one.
Not really. You must not watch his town meetings and press conferences.
I watched him in the debates.
The question is WHO are you watching? errrr ummm errrre ahhhhh ummmmm errrrrrrr ummmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
he works well with a pumped up crowd and a practiced speech. But he speaks as poorly ‘ off the cuff’ as Dubya does. Well he might use big words if he can ever quit saying ‘uhh uhhh’.
His whole ‘image’ is so seriously controlled by his puppet masters that they rarely have him doing anything live. Few if any live talk shows without a script and without editorial rights. He’s a bumbling, arrogant ass.
Guess Michelle’s always done his one-on-one talking for him in the past.
OMG true DUCK!
And being an X Dem. I can attest to YEARS OF GREAT JOY mocking the dumb ass remarks of one GW BUSH!
Obama is BUSH on STEROIDS!!!
That’s what is truly frightening!
He just totally screwed up PHONING IT IN in Charlotte!
He’s such a dipshit he can’t keep people’s names straight!!! Important people (to their state) Luckily Riverdaughter caught this!
And don’t forget ‘Sunshine, FL’. Even stoner musicians know it’s good for applause to mention the town they’re performing in. Clearly Obama can’t even do that right.
James, you moron. Check your facts.
I don’t use words like “moron.” Faux believe, why must you?
Aw, look! It’s Greggie and Dougie and the other Hitler youth, arriving to do a tap dance on our faces.
They’re going to bully us into voting for their messiah.
You have an odd idea of what it means to bully. Evidently in your case it’s posting things on a web site. Is that so scary, really?
Flooding boards is a means of preventing freedom of association. It is intended to prevent people of like mind from talking to each other. It is a form of internet brownshirt activity.
believe. Please go away and read 1984. Be. Leave.
I have been a Republican for most of my adult life. I switched parties because of Obama.
Ans she has a lovely home… with a deck and everything !!
Hey, faux -Believe, is that true?
In my case, I’ve been a Democrat my whole life and have worked on campaigns since 1972.
Then you should be comfortable with losing.
All that means is that you’re a guillable idiot. Obama is nothing but 180 lbs. of walking snake oil.
So you were a republican till now.
That really shows your poor judgment believe
You voted for an empty suit in 2000/4
And now your going to vote for another.
You sure seem to enjoy that inexperience in a president.
I thought so. Only Republicans chattel drop (which like name dropping but about the stuff they own).
In general …
People who believe/know they are fortunate try to avoid envy. Envy is always a consolation prize. Avarice is agape gone off.
WHat a good campaign add…..and true.
Where was your judgment Obama?
It’s not an ad that anyone has paid to run - because it’s so amateurish. This is an internet ad. The only people who will see it are those who go to the RNC site.
Now you are an expert on advertising. Please go away and read Packard’s The Hidden Persuaders.
Be. Leave.
He stayed at a holday inn express last night with larry sinclair.
Off topic, but a bit of funny trivia:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i23gT19o6C2I8dWDUfq6V5lES61QD91PPIR03
Dog owners prefer McCain over Obama.
McCain has dogs, cats, turtles, fish, birds and ferrets.
He also has black relatives that why the republicans picked him. He was the only one that the race card wouldn’t work on.
Faux faux faux
Quit hitting yourself in the face. That what my mamma used to tell me.
believe, stay strong.
I disagree. Bathing is hygienic.
As a pet owner myself, Alee, I find it very telling when a family does not have a pet. A house without a pet is cold. Oh wait! Obama is cold! There ya have it!
I have decided that I was wrong about Obama. Unable to deny it any longer with insults and fallicous calls to authority, bandwagon, and popularity, I must conceed, that obama is a walking Fallacy.
close…
He is a walking Phallus
LOL
all dick and no viagra.
Hello everyone, I am finally at peace and my mind is completely made up. I will never vote for Obama.
I do believe, that believe believes that believes head is about to explode.
There were 8 comments by believe in the recent comment section on the right.
Fight the good fight believe, even though you’re wrong.
How many Obamites does it take to make a head explode?
ROFLOL
We are supposed to believe that he never heard the preachings of Wright. Guess again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs
Pay close attention to what Obama says beginning at 5:35 and race baiting.
Oh my God, I just saw prince Harry on TMZ
OMG, I secretly want his body too! Let us join hands in harmony with all Obamites world wide and celebrate Hope and change. Maybe the poles with shift and flush away all negativity.
Ooooohhhhmmmmmm oooohhhhhmmmmm.
Believe is very close to snapping today:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ckyGJr5DiJY
Can we all just push a little harder ??
LOL we’re ALL gonna line up like in the Airplane movie - all waiting for OUR chance to “push” or “slap” them back to reality! hahahaha! LONG line!
And then one day SNAP. Your a monster LOL I love it…from the diva herself.
“Your a monster…”
“You are…”
“BUT I’M NOT A MONSTER…”
“I’M NOT !! “
who’s that? Oprah? lol
Dawnelle, we’re all on the same page with 70’s movies. That’s where my ‘dougie and greggie and hitler youth’ came from - Animal House.
you know the FOG some of them seem to be under is sticking to them like a lighthouse
They will never see how MUCH they resemble their “enemy” (I hate using that word as we’re ALL Americans, far as I can tell)
it’s all so “IN YOUR FACE” WRONG! I’m surprised it’s still standing in the face of the weight of the TRUTH!
Imitating your “enemy” to regain their position when their position was gained by nefarious means is NOT MAKING ANYTHING BETTER!
It’s only perpetuating a LIE upon those of us who VOTE! (or won’t or will switch because of it)
I don’t give a chit whose DECK you sit at…….. 2 wrongs NEVER make a right!
rant over
I’m ready for some good times.
She addmits she’s working for Obama
Ooops. I leave now.
You are faux Obama.
Yes, indeed, I have volunteered for Obama, as I have for every Democratic presidential candidate and other Dems as well. But I’ve never held a paid position in a campaign. Sure would be fun though. I think one of my kids is going to do that sort of work.
Why did you stop volunteering for the democrats and go to Obama?
OMG!!! That’s a killer ad. And it’s only a sample of what the RNC is gonna be able to do with Obambi.