Obama’s Flawed Race Strategy: Why the Black Vote Won’t Be Enough
By iam0nly1 on July 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM in Current Affairs
Senator Obama plans to win the general election based on African American turn out. It is no secret. The Time’s Jay Newton-Small reports that he’s been vocal about it since August 2007:
“I’m probably the only candidate who, having won the nomination, can actually redraw the political map,” Obama replied to a question about his strategy from a Concord, N.H., woman at a house party last August. Pacing around the old Victorian home, the wooden floor creaking, Obama went on: “I’ll give you one specific example: Mississippi is 40% African American, but it votes 25% African American. If we just got the African Americans in Mississippi to vote their percentage, Mississippi is suddenly a Democratic state. And Georgia may be a Democratic state. Even South Carolina starts being in play. And I guarantee you African-American turnout, if I’m the nominee, goes up 30% around the country, minimum.”
Obama’s entire claim to redrawing the political map is based on his perceived ability to win in Southern states precisely because of African American voters. After all, this is why Hillary’s claim that she alone was capable of winning large swing states that Democrats must win, such as Ohio and Pennsylvania, went unnoticed and unheeded by Dean, Pelosi and others. However, this is a severe and dangerous gamble.
As we pointed out a few weeks back, the Obama campaign seems to know that Ohio and Florida are going to be a stretch, so they are looking for alternate paths to 270, which means they are relying heavily on the Southern states, especially Virginia and Georgia. They also discuss the Rocky Mountain states of Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado, but frankly, even if he wins those three, and Michigan, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire (all three of which will be highly competitive), if he loses Ohio and Florida, he will lose the election 267-271 (this count includes all the states Kerry won). In short, if Obama loses Ohio and Florida, the three Rocky Mountain states and Georgia and Virginia become must win states.
As Senator Obama will still lose the general election with the three Rocky Mountain states if he fails to swing Georgia and Virginia, these two states are of particular interest.
The Obama campaign pulled no punches in revealing their tactic to win to the AP back in June: race.
Obama’s campaign has spent heavily on time and money in Virginia, where a Democratic presidential candidate hasn’t won since 1964. In recent elections, however, high-profile Republicans have lost there. And in a sign of how serious Obama is taking the state, Plouffe dispatched to Virginia many aides who helped Obama stage his upset win in the Iowa caucuses Jan. 3.
The key, Plouffe told supporters, will be to register new black voters and new young voters in Virginia.
Likewise, Georgia has many unregistered black voters who could turn out in record numbers to support the first major-party nominee who is black, he argued. Plouffe said the campaign also will keep an eye on Mississippi and Louisiana as the race moves into the fall to see if new black voters could put them within reach.
First and foremost, as an African American voter, I feel used and offended by this purely racial strategy. As I have stated before, Senator Obama has done nothing for the African American community and has avoided and ignored our communities during his presidential campaign, but believes in racial polarization and indeed, prejudice within the black community, so much so that he is willing to hang his presidential hopes on it. Second, the Obama campaign needs to do a bit more research before they spend anymore money in Virginia, Georgia, or any other Southern state for that matter.
First, Thomas Schaller of the New York Times reveals the myths upon which Obama has built his dreams:
The first myth is that African-American turnout in the South is low. Black voters are actually well represented in the Southern electorate: In the 11 states of the former Confederacy, African-Americans were 17.9 percent of the age-eligible population and 17.9 percent of actual voters in 2004, analysis of Census Bureau data shows.
And when socioeconomic status is held constant, black voters go to the polls at higher rates than white voters in the South. In other words, a 40-year-old African-American plumber making $60,000 a year is, on average, more likely to vote than a white man of similar background.
So African American voters already vote in numbers congruent to their percentage of the population. Thus, increasing the turnout “30% around the country, minimum” is not just arrogant, but largely improbable.
The second myth is that Democratic presidential candidates fare better in Southern states that have large numbers of African-Americans. In fact, the reverse is true, because the more blacks there are in a Southern state, the more likely the white voters are to vote Republican.
Mississippi, the state with the nation’s highest percentage of African-Americans in its population, illustrates how difficult Mr. Obama’s task will be in the South. Four years ago, President Bush beat John Kerry there by 20 points. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that Mr. Obama could increase black turnout in Mississippi to 39 percent of the statewide electorate, up from 34 percent in 2004, according to exit polls. And let’s assume that Mr. Obama will win 95 percent of those voters, up from the 90 percent who voted for Mr. Kerry four years ago.
If that happened, the black vote would yield Mr. Obama 37 percent of Mississippi’s statewide votes. To get the last 13 percent he needs for a majority, Mr. Obama would need to persuade a mere 21 percent of white voters in Mississippi to support him. Sounds easy, right?
But only 14 percent of white voters in the state supported Mr. Kerry. Mr. Obama would need to increase that number by 7 percentage points — a 50 percent increase. Mr. Obama struggled to attract white Democrats in states like Ohio and South Dakota. It strains credulity to believe that he will attract three white voters in Mississippi for every two that Mr. Kerry did.
Keep in mind that this analysis (and the speculation that Mr. Obama will generate unprecedented black turnout in the South) does not consider the possibility that white voter turnout will rise, too. Passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act led to an upsurge in black voting in the South, but it also caused many white Southerners to register and vote as well — for the Republicans.
If you live by the racial sword, you will die by it as well. While it is unlikely that Senator Obama would garner more of the white vote than Kerry did (which he needs to in order to win the state), if white turnout also increased, he would still probably lose the state.
But let’s look even closer at the specific states. Schaller’s take on Georgia is not particularly optimistic:
What about Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia, the three states that are routinely cited as new possibilities for the Democratic column this fall?
Mr. Obama can write off Georgia and North Carolina for the same reasons that Mississippi is beyond his reach — although the math in those two states is slightly less daunting.
Newton-Small is a little more optimistic about Georgia:
Though he may have a legitimate shot in Georgia, he currently trails McCain by a margin of 12.3 percentage points, according to an average of Georgia polls by the non-partisan website RealClearPolitics.com.
~snip~
There is no question that Obama can turn out Southern blacks: African-American voter participation in the 2008 Georgia primary, which Obama won by 36 percentage points over Clinton, increased 85% over the 2004 primary, for example. And there’s lots of room to grow from the last general election; in 2004 just 54.3% of the 1,090,000 registered blacks in Georgia voted.
But black votes alone cannot win him Southern swing states like Georgia, according to David Bositis, senior political analyst at the non-partisan Joint Center, which tracks black voter trends. “In states that could potentially flip it isn’t just about increasing black turnout. They have to be states where Obama can win a fairly significant portion of whites,” Bositis said. In the Georgia primary Obama edged out Clinton among young white voters, but lost white voters over the age of 45 by more than 20 percentage points, according to CNN exit polls.
As for Schaller, he believes Virginia is his best hope:
Virginia, however, is the one Southern state that Mr. Obama has a reasonable chance of winning. And it’s precisely because the home of Robert E. Lee, as NBC News’s political director, Chuck Todd, has suggested, is seceding from the Confederacy.
The demographic makeup of the electorate in Virginia is unlike that of any other state in the South. The black population in Virginia is, as a percentage, among the lowest in the region. And during the last two decades, the state has also experienced a huge influx of upscale non-Southerners, who have taken over the Washington suburbs of northern Virginia. (Florida is a perennial target for similar reasons. With a relatively small black population, a big Hispanic voting bloc and a large contingent of relocated retirees from the North, it is the least Southern of the Southern states.)
While these states are slim possibilities, it’s important to note that to turn them blue, Obama will have to churn out the green (perhaps this is the reason he chose to forego public financing?). But while Obama is throwing millions of dollars at states that have not gone to Democrats since 1964 (Virginia), and 1992 (Georgia and Bill), he’ll be opening the door even wider for Republicans in actual swing states.
Mike DuHaime, political director of the Republican National Committee, doesn’t argue with Obama’s fund-raising advantage. But he disputes the notion that Obama can afford to keep throwing money at long shots once the campaign really heats up in the fall, and he contends that Obama’s defense of vulnerable states like New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ohio will be much more expensive. “It would take a major swing to swing these [Southern] states,” says DuHaime. “I don’t fault them for trying to expand the map, but we have better opportunities in other states that are just as big, if not bigger — Pennsylvania, Ohio, for example.”
Obama thinks he can win simply by essence of being black. Not only is this insulting, prejudicial, and frankly predictable at this point, but it’s flawed, and will fortunately cost him the election.
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so it all comes down to Obama stealing votes again to win the election?
oh dear…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Think harder Gerard.
bill will get his money back hes good at betraying us to fill his pockets…
No it all comes down to PUMA being ignored and exposed as the front everyone thought it was. Darragh Murphy who gave $500 to McWar in 2000 and is now working for McWar to win in 2008.
oh yeah, isn’t Obama’s campaign everything that MLK was fighting against?
does anyone else feel this way?
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Think even harder Gerard.
Have you visited the site “Black Agenda?” They are really good and irritated …. and Bob Herbert looked none too pleased this morning in the NYTimes … he may not even be able to count on the African American vote. They see they have been used. Where are those June fund raising numbers? It’s July 9th for goodness sake …. has he hit.one.out.of.the.park? Or are they going to be inundating us for money …. yet again? hahahahhahahahahahha
Bob Herbert? He’s no representative of the black community.
Bob Herbert, one of the very worse calling the Clintons racist and anyone smart enough not to vote for Obama as racist.I hope he realizes he is partly to blame for this mess
The name is “blackagendareport.com”, and is updated every Wednesday.
McCain 2008
NOBAMA
Who the hell made you Thought Monitor. Wrong site. Hop over to Kos or Huffpo.
Yes I think he is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrgOjIDK4Y4
I agree..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrgOjIDK4Y4
yes, I feel this way.
rory is a kitten pretending to be a puma.
You reference one quote, and then, because that is the only quote you reference, you describe it as “his entire claim”. Sweet. I guess you missed the “50 state strategy” discussions. Nice informed piece though.
and? a quote is proof of what the moron says. what more do you want?
oh yeah, just because the moron flip flops and contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth doesn’t mean that we can’t draw the line and hold him to what he does say…
good grief….
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
A 50 States Strategy discussion? What is Obama to do about the other seven?
LOL
btw - Obama is on teevee in GOP North FL 24/7.
and what happened to that 50-state strategy? Oh yeah, it got whittled down to 48 and Democrat’s turned into Republican lemmings crying: “But, the rules, the rules” We don’t need to count every vote.
Michigan and Florida broke the rules (but the Archbishop of Canterbury Donna Brazile issued special dispensations to Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina) for breaking the same “rules”.
That dog ain’t gonna hunt!
His claim to changing the electoral map rests on his ability to garner the AA vote. It was blatant and obvious throughout the entire primary. His, “I can win Southern States” was basically, “I can get black people polls.” If you didn’t see that you weren’t paying attention.
Ted, sweetie? Why is Obama acting like a Republican? Why does he think this is going to make Democrats want to enthusiastically support him? Maybe you can tell us, since you’re so informed.
For all you people saying about Obama that the emperor has no clothes, he has clothes, but it’s just an empty suit.
I mean, FISA, Faith-based funding, abortion, gun control, death penalty, McClurkin, Meeks, Iraq….right on down the line. Barry the Republican. Not so sweet.
Name the person who said these quotes, (A) George W. Bush, (B) Hillary Clinton, or (C) Stephen Colbert. (Answers below)
1. “Every nation has to either be with us, or against us.”
2. “Rich people, God bless us. We deserve all the opportunities to make sure our country and our blessings continue to the next generation.”
3. “You are either with America in our time of need or you are not.”
4. “[Saddam Hussein] has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members.”
5. “Elite opinion is always on the side of doing things that really disadvantages the vast majority of Americans.”
6. “I’m not going to put in my lot with economists.”
7. “We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West.”
8. “That’s a vote I’m going to try to get, because I want to know where they stand and I want them to tell us–are they with us or against us?”
9. “American values are not just about America, but they speak to the human dignity, the God-given spark that resides in each and every person across the world…”
10. “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president, we will attack Iran… [if Iran attacks Israel] we would be able to totally obliterate them.”
Answers: (1B, 2B, 3B, 4B, 5B, 6B, 7B, 8B, 9B, 10B)
obama has moved to the right and left his left promises under the bus..so now hes a republican…lol..and he secretly wishes he was McCain, obama says he is the underdog! lol he is a dog alright! we all know that
what are you so scared of?
Too bad Jimmy Carter didn’t have the BALLS to bomb Iran in 1979, we wouldn’t have that problem today. Obama doesn’t have the TESTICLES to be the DECIDER.
How is any of this helping MEchelle’s children.
Won’t somebody please think of Michelle’s children!
What is your point?
Obliteration of Iran in the event the attack Israel is the current policy. She wud have been attacked for not knowing that if she had given a different response. So, take your smoke and blow it up your own ass.
Obliteration of Iran in the event they attack Israel is the current policy. She wud have been attacked for not knowing that if she had given a different response. So, take your smoke and blow it up your own ass.
So, the question is - did Obama know this? Prob not. And, why did the media continue to give him a free pass with his answer?
He seemed to not know much during the debates - he had to copy from the smart chick.
Tomorrow could mark the beginning of official condoning of warrantless surveillance of law-abiding citizens in the U.S., not to mention foreign nationals. Much of this information has been covered by Glenn Greenwald in the past week.
In the video below, I talk about what every American needs to know — and do in the next 24 hours — about the new FISA (Federal Information and Surveillance Act) amendments. The interview, and below partial transcription, answers questions like…
http://www.alternet.org/rights/90792/?ses=ece9956535bc9221bbf90308754253de
What Every American Needs to Know (and Do) About FISA Before Tuesday, July 8th VIDEO
http://www.vimeo.com/1295224?pg=embed&sec=1295224
Okay, who said, “Can’t I just eat my waffle?”
1) Hillary Clinton
2) Barry O’ Bama
3) gerard nedich
4) Joshua Micah Marshall
5) Martin Luther King
Who said, “Does anybody have Larry Sinclair’s number?”
I really want Obama but I will settle for Larry.
BOBO…LOL I win
Larry Sinclair’s number? Ask Obama. It should be on his cell phone…that is if he hasn’t thrown it in a dumpster.
I spit my drink on that one . :)~~ Too funny.
Give the guy a break, he’s been traveling back and forth in 57 states, or was that 58…he just wanted his waffles.
IT was 57 states……BO got the 57 states of Islam mixed up with the US states.
Who said regarding William Ayers of the Weather Underground, “He’s just a guy in my neighborhood.”
1. Ozzie Nelson
2. Barry O’Bama
3. Mr. Rogers
4. fred
5. gerard nedich
No mentions here of Bill Clinton pardoning members of the Weather Underground?
None? No?
Did that event even happen in your history books No? Beuller? Kinda nullifies your Ayers-hatin’, doesn’t it?
Pardoning is mere paper work. BOBO and Ayers hung out.
Excellent argument. No wait, it’s a horrible argument.
Of course it is. It kills your whole lame assed attack if Bill only filled out paperwork yet BOBO and Ayers hung out. Hmmmmm I wonder if BOBO and Ayers were drinking buddies?
Gee. Is Bill on the ballot this year? I might have to vote for the Democrats since with Bill there will be a Democrat ON the ballot!
They didn’t hang out Ayers hired barky to head up the Chicago Annenberg Challenge where together they blew 50 to 100 million dollars on educational programs in Chicago that didn’t help at all for 8 years.
Michelle and Dorn hung out. They have been friends since their time in NY in the late 80’s.
Bill Clinton pardoned members of the Weather Underground after they had served several years in prison. He never hung out with them, had campaign events at their homes, or worked with them. William Ayres never served time in prison because of his father’s political connections.
You can’t reason with obamabushbots.
That’s why they’re obamabushbots.
I will NEVER vote for this race-baiting, hypocritical emptysuit.
Suck it obamabushbots!!!!
Who said they didn’t know about the people freezing there ass off in the 313 in a Chicago winter?
If you need the answer to that, good luck.
Since President Clinton didn’t pardon any members of the Weather Underground, why should we talk about something like that? He did commute the sentences of a couple of them, but that is not at all the same thing.
Read this Op-Ed from a young black girl from Detroit, it’s called “Why My First Vote Will Be For John McCain” http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080707/OPINION02/807070307
No offense to the girl but that piece is horrible. I want those 3 minutes back.
Still she is a young person who took the time to do her homework. I am proud of her for doing so.
Pay it forward if you want them back.
Again, no offense to the young girl, or to you Teak. But it looks like her homework consisted of disproven RNC talking points about healthcare and defense policy and bizarre conclusions like voting for McCain so that she can vote for Obama in 2012?
2, 2
Thank you for your well-informed post, iamonly1. It’s refreshing to see someone actually crunch these numbers and call Obama on his faulty thinking.
I have parents in the ‘deep South’ and I can tell you the Republicans in all the Southern states will turn out in DROVES in this election, as will the white Democrats. As much as we’d like to think racism is dead, it’s alive and well in some corners of these states. Obama’s counting on racism within the black community but as you said, it can certainly bite him in his ass.
Also, black voters in these states were often very heavy Clinton supporters for what? 18 years now? They will remember the steady economy of the Clinton years and I’m not sure they’d support Obama just based on his skin color.
They didn’t seem to have a heck of a lot of fondness for the Clinton years in the primaries. Will probably have even less with no Clinton on the ballot in the General.
Well, you know, the BOBOcampaign called Bill a racist. The tragedy is that AA’s believed it.
The Obama campaign never called Bill a racist. When Obama was asked about Bill’s comments he said this: “I think that, that’s his frame of reference was the Jesse Jackson races. That’s when he was active and involved and watching what was gonna take place in South Carolina. I think that a lot of South Carolinians looked at it through a different lens.”
yeah right, but the campaign was saying Bill was a racist.
@ WildChild - Possibly, but remember politics ain’t bean bag. The Clinton campaign was trying to marginalize Obama as ‘the black candidate.’ The Obama campaign did the math, (what 90% of the African American vote would do for him in the primaries) took it, and ran with it. Huge error on the Clinton campaign’s part. Totally backfired.
Bill Clinton mentions Jeese won SC. He did. But the BOBO campaign was calling Bill a racist… back in January. Sounds like a plan to me. LOL especially the slipping the list to an activist part.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html
What was it that donned Bill C the white hood and burning cross before his “inartful” statement in SC?
Oh yea, Hussein Obama’s opposition to the Iraq war was a “fairytale”.
Totally, I agree with you that it was coordinated. But what I’m saying is the Clinton campaign also had a plan and that was to marginalize Obama. (for instance Hillary on 60 Minutes, “He’s not Muslim as far as I know.”) So I agree with you that the Obama campaign flamed this in the media as part of a strategy. And it worked. But the Clinton’s also had a plan,it just that the Obama team did the math better. (90% AA support = victory) Hillary used this same strategy citing all the sexist stuff in the media etc. in an attempt to get more of the woman vote, she also fanned the working class white thing towards the end, pouncing on Obama’s ‘bitter voters’ thing. But alas, this was all too late. Like I said, politics ain’t bean bag.
Timeline, RoryBellows, timeline.
“Black people will wake up and get it.”
MSNBC, Oct. 07
Michelle Obama
I could give you more examples but your citing of the ninth or tenth reiteration of “He’s not a Muslim” as some sort of “proof” tells me it would be a waste of time.
ah, so before I presented the evidense of BOBOracism it was, “@ WildChild - Possibly, but remember politics ain’t bean bag” and now after I present evidense it’s, “Totally, I agree with you that it was coordinated.”. You’re a fraud LOL and all you have to support your lamed assed argument is that Hillary was trying to marginalize BOBO when see said, “He’s not Muslim as far as I know.”
LMAO it’s not her job to know what BOBO’s religion is.
He’s not Muslim as far as I know…
and I as far as I can tell, hanging out with Farrakn and the Nation of Islam, doesn’t make you one either.
Perception being what it is “these days”.
How can being compared to a black man marginalize a black man?
Especially if you’re counting on say, 90% of black people to vote for you on that basis?
@josgirl Marginalize meaning, dismissing his candidacy as ONLY being made up of black supporters, similar to Jesse. This was an attempt to turn his candidacy into a novelty. What the Obama campaign realized is they could use this to get that 90% AA vote, BUT at the same time retain 40-45% of the white vote. Again, the math was in his favor.
Jesse Jackson had a “Rainbow Coalition” made up of many “latte liberals” and was the first “viable black candidate for president” in ‘88, gaining about 950 delegates.
Ask Donna Brazile.
Totally, he even won Vermont. But that’s not what the electorate at large associates with his candidacy. And therefore, that was the opening Obama needed.
The Obama plan to use race-baiting against the Clintons in the primaries is clearly described in an Obama campaign memo. Again Obamabots try to rewrite history.
Rewriting what? I’m saying they did. That’s my point. They ran a better campaign on this front. The math worked. The ran with it. I thought they were crazy at first and I thought the Clinton’s were right on this one, but it turns out the Obama strategy was smart. I bet the 90% even surprised them.
“There has been a reluctance among blacks to openly criticize Senator Obama, the first black candidate with a real shot at the presidency. But behind the scenes, there is discontent among African-Americans, as well, over Mr. Obama’s move away from progressive issues, including his support of the Supreme Court’s decision affirming the constitutional right of individuals to bear arms.”
Bob Herbert
NYT
Today
Still think Obama’s strategy was “smart?”
If Herbert’s right, Obama’s toast.
Different strategy cited. His lurch to the center is to try to chip away atMcCain’s strengths. He’s banking on being able to hold onto his base while reaching for moderate voters. For now it seems to be working: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/voters_perceive_obama_moving_to_the_middle
Only time will tell if it’s a winning strategy. But like I said with the AA vote in the primary. I wouldn’t under estimate the political acumen of Obama and his team. I doubted the race card thing with Bill, and it worked brilliantly.
I wouldn’t exactly call expanding Bushes faith program give aways, supporting telecom immunity and adopting bush’s exit philosophy from Iraq as a lurch to the center. It’s more of a gathering in of the fringe.
Well, according to those #s in that poll, it’s working.
LOL You must be blogging in a strip club
A brothel actually.
Hey, BOBO pays for it too.
McCain just passed me in the hallway.
RUN Little BOBOweenie, he brought the cops
damn.
You should have done what Clinton did and actually seduce women.
I’ll quote (paraphrase) Charlie Sheen: You don’t pay women to have sex with you, you pay them to leave.
so now “race baiting” is just the math and it worked so they ran with it. LOL explain to me again how you BOBoweenies and BOBO are somehow different enough to justify dreams of change on hope, because I sure don’t see it
You’ll never hear me say those words.
I know, you’ll get the campaign to say them for you… LOL or you’ll slip the list to a loyal activist.
SO you give BO points for being Racist thugs?
Reality it maybe, but very destructive as an example of any kind of leadership.
It sounds like the only experience BO has is in manipulation and lies. Good luck. Win a battle loss the war? How is a winner?
Can you you believe these BOBoweenies? They don’t care what BOBO does to win. The hypothesis that I’ve been offering on all these threads about how all fringe is alike regardless of party name or placement on the extremes of our linear political model is finding more and more evidense here at NQ as the Progressive fringe walks the same road with BOBO that the conservative fringe did with Bush
Pleeze Wild. Let’s not pretend to be naive. This is DC baby. Besides, what we’re talking about here is child’s play compared to other stuff that goes on in elections. And like I said, the Clinton campaign didn’t go down quietly. They threw the kitchen sink but the math wasn’t in their favor.
I know what goes on in elections and race baiting is something I’ve opposed since the eighties when the republican’s started doing it on a regular basis. It doesn’t suddenly become right when we do it and the fact that you are so willing to embrace it is telling me that both you and the candidate you support are frauds and that we are right to shift our allegiance to John McCain. McCain is a republican and a traditional conservative, but he doesn’t follow the Low road of the fringe that had control of his party since Reagan. You and BOBO on the other hand do. LOL and thanks for making that clear to all of us. You’ve been a big help.
Hillary’s team did plenty of race baiting, (see Somali Muslim garb pic, see ‘hard working Americans, white Americans’ see ‘hispanics don’t vote for black candidates) she also did sex baiting (too much to count). So McCain hasn’t started the race baiting yet but the RNC sure has. And just wait til this fall Also, watch McCain’s new ad from today, (he’s started dirty hippie baiting lol.)
LOL the somoli pic was getting passed around by the republicans back during the year of faux primary. As to the rest, don;t let your race baiting mind tar Hillary. Most of BOBO’s support was White. Anything she said about that can’t be termed race baiting. And it’s a bit laughable to say that Hillary was sex baiting. You seem to be a man who is in desperate need of wiggling out of a conversation exposing you and your race baiting candidate for what you are: fringe
So smart that Bill Clinton won’t be helping him much. The party is split. He’s 2 points ahead according to Gallup today in a year that Mickey Mouse could be a Republican.
Short-term smart and long-term dumb.
Hey RoryBellows - What’s so frikkin”smart” or “cool” about using the smeared RACE-BAITING CARD to win at the Primaries? To plan this in a THUGGISH DIRTY SEWER CHICAGO POLITICO manner like he knocked off the ballot in ‘96 his mentor, SEN. ALICE PALMER. By you dumbObama tactics, this is SMART, EH, big guy? Well, we got news for you Obamatic 20-something neandertahals:
PUMAS will be Roarin’ in November.
and you better get out of their way. Lots of LGs, good hardworking guys of all colors, and women with self-esteem to spare will be taking up the REBELLION! so, get out the way and go solicitor stupid “smarts” some blind alley in Chicago where that’s real ‘cool’, man!
Rory Bellows,
You are treating spin as fact. As you earlier alluded, Jesse informed Barack that Bill was merely stating his frame of reference. Ickes was Jesse’s campaign manager for 1984 and 1988 and he likely mentioned this to Bill in their post-primary analysis. Further, Bill won SC in 1992, no primary in 1996, Gore won in 2000, and the only other relevant primary Bill could have noted because it made the case was Edwards won in 2008.
To claim Bill’s reference was a “black candidate” reference a person must suspend rational probability and common decency.
I’m not saying Bill’s comment in SC were what they were blown into, and I would add the ‘fairy tale’ thing was even more innocent. I don’t hate Bill, I voted for him twice and I know he’s not racist. My point is the Obama camp ran with it, and it was brilliant strategy. As far as better examples of the opposite strategy from the Clinton camp, I would cite the ‘latinos won’t vote for a black candidate’ which somehow became ‘truth’ in the media despite all evidence to the contrary historically. Also the ‘Somali Garb’ photo thing, and like I said before Hillary’s ‘He’s not a Muslim as far as I know’ thing. I don’t hold a grudge against the Clintons for doing this, like I said, politics ain’t bean bag. My point is the Obama camp had the math on their side. On a side note, I think if Hillary had found her ‘I’m the representative of the working class’ thing earlier, the primary might have had a different result. She found that narrative too late. The people around her that went with the ‘inevitable’ and ‘ready on day one’ thing early should never work in DC again. It was horrible tactics in a ‘change’ year. I also think the Iraq vote thing probably trumped all of this, btw.
Hey everybody, the progressive fringe has now adopted race baiting as a “Brilliant” campaign strategy. The good news is all your revulsion expressed toward the conservative fringe for doing the same each election won’t have to subside with the sinking of the conservative sun. There’s a new progressive dawn for it to flourish under.
Pleeze again Wild. Aren’t we on a site that constantly runs ’stories’ about fake whitey tapes, supposedly fake birth certificates, supposed gay sex tapes (and possibly murder!), etc. etc.
LOL BOBO said the tape really said Why’d he. A bit damning if the tape isn’t real.
BOBO had a COLB on his smear web site that he pulled when it was exposed as a possible fraud. A bit damning if the COLB was real
We have a guy on record saying BOBO paid him for the man sex. LMAO just plain old damning.
Now you’re just acting crazy.
LOL that’s not even close to a convincing rebuttal.
IF Larry made up the whitey tape Why did Obama’s camp, Michelles good friend Valerie ask Michelle about the tape weeeks before Larry’s article?
Ok, how’s this.
WTF are you talking about? BO never said anything about Why’d he, that was a blogger on making fun of this nonsense that was based on a pulp novel: http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mzc3ZWNhNThmM2JhMzliZDUxMWNmMmU5M2ZiNmM1YTY=
WTF are you talking about, his birth certificate is still on the site: http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
WTF are you talking about, Larry Sinclair, How bout if I go on record saying I had man sex with you father? I may even be able to pass the lie detector test that Sinclair couldn’t.
Ahh, the tape doesn’t exist because it’s part of a pulp fiction novel. LOL and you called me crazy.
The birth certificate was off BOBO’s web site a few days ago. It’s good to see they put it back up. They probably had to coordinate with the new improved more detailed COLB KOS substituted on it’s site.
LOL and you can’t have man sex with my father you little perve… he’s dead.
You never asked me what kind of brothel. It’s totally perverted in here.
Ok.
Trust me I know politics ain’t beanbag.
Bill called Barky’s Iraq “stance” a “Fairy Tale”. Lo and behold, unbeknownst to Obama…cough…cough..his surrogates turned that into racism. Back then we would have wondered how they could do that, but after all these months, a fart is racist around here.
Then, Hillary made the mistake of explaining the truth: That it took a good president to help pass civil rights law. This WAS aftar all a Presidential Primary was it now? Well…..Lo and behold, unknown to Obama again….cough cough…the truth was also racist.
THEN Bill lost it in South Carolina.
So let’s get the history straight if you are going to crap all over this board like some kind of smart ass, mmmmmkay?
I haven’t disagreed with anything you just said, in fact I commented above on the Fairy Tale thing being a huge stretch. And I applaud you for saying Bill lost it. Like I said, I like the guy and it was tough to see how off the rails he was at times during this campaign. However, I’m not ‘crapping’ on this board. I’m just discussing politics.
The Obamabots don’t really have a mature ability to see that the campaign is speaking for Obama.
I couldn’t believe it when Obama tried to dish off his own campaign’s remarks in the last debate. George busted him on it big-time.
These idiots, though, believe every bit of crap he feeds them.
Say what? She won the popular vote, kiddo.
That’s fondness.
Hey RORY BELLOWS:
GO GET YOUR OBAMATHUGS AND MOVE ON TO ANOTHER POST!
YOU’RE BORING US TO DEATH, RORY BELLOWS OBAMATHUG!
GET LOST, YOU IGNOMINOUSLY IMBECILIC OBAMABOT!
GO SELL OBAMA-CRAZIES SOMEWHERE ELSE.
PUMAS DON’T BUY CRAP FROM YOU GUYS!
STEALING PRIMARIES USING A PHONY RACE-BAIT CARD IS “BRILLIANT STRATEGY” to OBAMATHUGS!!!!yup, and your dad was in the KKK goin part time for Social Justice credits at Trinity Church, eh bozo?
Obama does not even qualify to be legally recognized as an African American. The legal requirement to be recognized as African American under statute and regulations promulgated in accordance with the 14th amendment is 12.5%. Obama’s genealogy is only 8% black. The remaining is 50% white and 42% arab-semitic.
I’m pretty sure Kenya is in Africa.
And you would be correct young grasshopper.
Coming from Kenya does not automatically make one African-American. That would be like saying an Afrikaaner emigrant in the US is also African-American. African-American is implied to be Negroid as opposed to other races. Kenya has a substantial Arab population and his father was primarily Arab. Racially, Arabs are Semitic and not Negroid.
Rory so are you saying someone who’s father is white from Kenya, with all white ancestors, and Mother was a white American, would be considerred African American? Really?
According to Larry Sinclair Obama is not all black.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, LOL is so on the down low
Thanks for you compliment and comment.
I too am originally from a Southern state, and left due to the blatant racism. The racial polarization is extreme in the South and white Republicans will be out in full force, and it’s not just racism. Kerry only got 14% of the white vote in Mississippi. It’s also the elitism and the view that these candidates don’t represent or understand them because they are Northern, Ivy League babies.
He will lose these Southern states.
So, f I understand this correctly, BHO is saying that he will win because he is a black man and will attract essentially all the black voters solely on the basis of his being black. Isn’t that the classic definition of racism?
Obama is a racist. Racism in America is alive and well, it is thriving in its new home, the black community.
It’s funny that when you use my screen name (above)and say something crazy, no one from the site responds cuz it’s just another crazy statement from a delusional No Quarter commenter.
And yes I just owned you.
I would hope you own yourself. Call us crazy, but talking to yourself is one thing. When you answer yourself, it’s time to seek help.
Yes Obama and Michelle are the biggest racists of all.
Just curious..
If Obama can attend a church that preaches Black separation theology and relies on 99% of the black vote to get elected does that mean that I can now without guilt join a white separatist organization and vote for candidates that are white.
No, If you did that you would be called a racist
Seattle Moss, I think that is called Affirmitive Action in Chicago.
BLACK FOLK WILL WAKE UP AND GET IT.
Love,
MEchelle
LOL.
When she said that I was so offended.
Obama is part of that “generation” that has racial sentiments. He said so himself in a speech, but no one was really listening to WHAT he said.
Yup. Obama is saying blacks don’t really come out and vote for whites, but they will be energized and leave their homes on Nov. 4 this year. Because of his Hope.
Obama is such a pandering fool. What a joke.
Now, what needs to happen is that McCain needs to come out and say that he believes like Obama does. That he has a serious chance of winning because all the black people will vote for Obama. No one ever calls him on this crap. If i were running, I would put out the following Memo.
Dear obama,
Since you have said that the Election is pretty much yours for the taking because I will not get any substantial black voters, could you please tell me which states you plan to racially profile, so I can make sure not to spend the resources in them.
Thanks,
John Mcain for President.
Good one Darryl
Nice!
This kind of tactic is ridiculous. You didn’t see Hillary running around saying she’s going to win because women make up 52% of the population, and over 60% of the Democratic party.
If women would have voted for Hillary in the numbers blacks voted for Obama, it would have been a blow out.
We need another feminist awakening, and I think this election season and the blatant misogyny and sexism is the catalyst.
Of course we do.
Obama being judged by the content of his character rather than the color of his skin is exactly the OPPOSITE of what his campaign is all about.
They (the Obama campaign) have made every effort to avoid having this man’s character looked at much less scrutinized. Any self respecting person of color should be insulted by his assault on their intelligence and his projected prejudice on their judgment. To vote for him because you think he’s African American in spite of his many contradictions of character sets racial progress back decades.
Who said: “Now, I don’t think mental distress qualifies as a reason.”
1) Sigmund Freud
2) Carry Nation
3) Teh Marquis de Sade
4) Barry O’Bama
5) Pat Robertson
ROFLMAO… Teh Marquis! (Just kidding.)
And that’s the other flaw. Obama is assuming, without any doubt, that almost all African Americans will vote for him in the GE. That is not only racist, it is insulting to African Americans.
Its actually true, most all of them will. Don’t fool yourself into thinking they won’t. You have to move beyond it and find a strategy to win without the black vote.
But it doesn’t matter in the least because every election has been that way. The only difference is that the DNC is hopping that enough people go vote for obama because his IS black that have never voted before.
The point of the article states it nicely, because if that sentiment holds true for that racial segement, it holds for the opposite. Just as many people will go out to vote against him because he is black.
This is one of the laws of relativity: For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
That was one of Newton’s laws, relativity would have to wait until much later.
Well done.
How many years of American History have American of African decent been held as assumtion?
Now a candidate who has done nothing to speak of for the AA community in this country or his own state take them for granted. I would find that very insulting, not as a racial thing but as a human being.
It’s very insulting.
Black vote + white guilt = Obama wins
Well, thanks to Barky and his minions I’ve managed to overcome my lifetime affliction of White Guilt.
Thank you for the post. I don’t understand the logic here. Bill Clinton was successful in turning some of these states into blue. Hillary would have been too and with Obama as VP, we would not have seen the current divide — though I have my reservations on Obama for any office right now — but assuming he had played his cards right, this would have been a historic opportunity for all.
The real reason you won’t vote for Obama is that you are all RACISTS.
LMAO. I swear I can’t stop laughing.
I didn’t write that. It was the faux believe who wants to undermine when I actually come and write.
It’s a very childish tactic.
“It was the faux believe.”
yup
ok guys and ladies, close it down. buhleeve has figured it out. break out your rebel flags and pointy hats.
You’re late to work again.
do you have to work at being ignorant and stupid or is your ’special talent’?
jus wonderin’
Is that really what you ‘believe’? How do you feel about his radical associations, poor judgment, lack of command for facts about his own policies, disregard for those he seeks to serve, his constant reversal and his an his surrogates always needing to clarify what he really meant, his unpatriotic wife, his money laundering, stacking boards, his voting present on difficult issues?
Tell us, believe, you have no lack of time nor words, tell us how you reconcile your support for a candidate devoid of character and morals.
Don’t argue with him on the racist point EVER with any Obama supporter. Laugh at them for they are truely rediculous to bring it up. Anyone with any common since knows, anyone who calls you a racist for not voting for Obama if you actually NEVER said, “I’m not voting for Obama because he is black,” is in fact voting for obama because he is Black.
Think about it, the one thing you can always count on with an Obama supporter is to bring up the race issue. They will always reflect back on you. Its a front because they are actually reflecting their own racial sentiment on you.
Just laugh it off. If you engage with them on it, your indignation is their victory. They revel in the fact that you are insulted.
Good point Darryl.
What about the opposition’s position on women’s rights. And I’m not just talking about abortion. How about equal pay for equal work. What about Sen McCain’s calling his wife a Cunt and laughing at the use of Bitch in describing Hillary Clinton. What about the level of experience of McCain that led to the Keating 5 or his support of off shore drilling now that it’s popular. Why is the McCain camp quiet about Iraq’s demand for our removal of troops with a timetable. (That Barrack Obama has held as a platform for months) What about Hillary Clinton vitriolic campaign so useful to the Republicans that they play her video against Obama. Let’s look at the fact that while she was fostering racism ( “hard working white americans”) Obama didn’t stoop to her level. Yea he had some fun Annie Oakley, J-Z brush off the shoulder. But he never brought up Clinton’s impeachment, Whitewater or the myriad of trash he could have. Yep he constantly pointed out her support of the war, but, she did support it and that’s the difference between the two. You PUMA’s are just bitter that your chance to have a woman in the Whitehouse fell through. You others just can’t stand the idea of a Black man being the Democratic nominee.
I’ve been hearing that the Dems would pass equal pay laws since I was 20.
LOL*….it ain’t happening.
I’ve been reading your posts for awhile trying to determine what you really “believe”. You are very clever, but usually incorrect in your comments. It is obvious you like to bait other bloggers by luring them to answer inane questions and respond to general remarks.
But you’ve finally blown your cover with this last remark.
You are a racist. I know is is another bait but your protest is too strong.
cleetus, jasper!
that’s it, we’ve been figgered out
no more hidin’
gonna go tend the still
Hee Haw is on get me a bud I’ll be back in a bit.
“White Power”.
Clayton Bigsby
pmlmao
clarification - my remark was a response to “believe”.
I was wondering when this classic retort would show up.
However, I’m confused as to whether it’s sarcasm from the original Believe or if it’s heartfelt by the fake Believe - or do I have it backwards?
i don’t know who to believe
the both of them had a good argument going the other day
LMAO, Keven that is so true
its like that classic star trek episode
(GEEK ALERT!!)
two kirks each screaming “shoot him, he’s the imposter”
I think believe is more “Sybil”-like.
That’s right believe, give it all you got now. Next time, bold and italicize the word to make sure it has maximum effect.
I didn’t write that. It was the person impersonating me.
How do we know that you’re not impersonating them?
LMAO… This is getting to be too much fun.
Believe; It wasn’t your “arguementation”? I am shocked I tell ya!
AHHHHHHH! Darryl “LMAO. I swear I can’t stop laughing.” So I had to copy and paste! Thanks.
I am a RACIST ’cause I can’t drive fifty five? OKey DOkey.
I can’t even figure out what the definition of racism is now after the ridiculous over-reactions of the primary.
Perhaps I am racist according to the new world.
What I’ve always believed and still do is that race has nothing to do with skill, talent, intelligence, or wisdom. It does have to do with power granted. White tall men get more power automatically granted than a short black woman, for example. That I know exists.
I’ve always strived to listen deeply to people who have different experiences than me. But I also don’t listen to victim talk. That’s the case whether it’s female, black, etc. I don’t find that victim speakers have much to offer in the way of elucidating their life experiences.
I have my own sad story to tell, in other words. *ha
This is the year I’ve decided it’s OK to be viewed as racist. I grew up in the South in the 1950s. I learned to respect racial differences. I was raised in a home that made a big deal out of racial tolerance. But there was a reality, too. The division was real between the races.
I lived in the age when attempts to bridge that gap were naive and silly. Then it evolved. Affirmative Action was successful. Bumpy? yes. Successful? Definitely.
Today, it’s taken for granted that race has no bearing on a person’s ability to do a job. I’m grateful personally that I got to live through and see this change.
Am I a racist? I don’t think so. But perhaps that’s for others to decide. Not me. I just know I am as passionate today as I was as a child growing up in segregation that people, the individual, should be encouraged to be their best, given opportunities, not meet closed doors, not treated disrespectfully. And I don’t care if it’s race, age, sex, sexual orientation, or whatever the difference.
I am for PEOPLE.
Nobody gets through life without some type of handicap. Let’s respect one another’s handicaps and move on.
“If you live by the racial sword, you will die by it as well.”
This is a great phrase and it’s very true. I just pray this tactic doesn’t do too much harm to individual people and to race relations within the country. If this election gets portrayed as a competetion or a power struggle between white voters and black voters, that’s a terrible strategy.
Another problem with Obama’s strategy is he assumes all black people march to the same tune. Right off the bat you got 24% Republican. Then, in spite of the media hype, you’ve got black people who don’t like Obama, both former hillary supporters and those who simply recognize a used car salesmen when they see one.
If this election gets portrayed as a competetion or a power struggle between white voters and black voters, that’s a terrible strategy.
“IF”?
He’s played the race card so many times already. Riots have been threatened and advocates of civil rights have been smeared unmercifully. Not only does he accuse others of unfounded racism,he and his wife willfully practice it. It is evidenced in their words, their writings and their worshiping and praising of the racist rantings of his spiritual mentor. All of it in broad daylight with no remorse. The ONLY possible outcome is a divided nation..for or against Obama.
When will his divisive campaign be held accountable, when there is bloodshed?
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
You are correct there won’t be. In his eyes he is justified.
Very well explained! Really took some time, effort, and intelligence to put that piece together.
It brings my hope even close to reality that BO will not win the Presidency!
Thanks so much for your compliment
I’m hoping people will come to their senses and not support this guy.
O opted out of my e-mail subscription with the DNC & told them it was because of the way they treated HRC. They didn’t deserve my $$ or my time to.
Then I registered as an Independent.
DONE WITH THE DNC
I support Obama because he’s black. Everybody here is a racist.
Troll Alert.
This the faux believe. I think that sort of statement is nonsense.
ahh, come on! It’s bad enough that we have one believe to annoy us, now two?? Come on Larry hit the delete button, believe is multiplying like a rabbit! Or else cloning…hmm..could be cloning. I’ve said before I think believe, the first believe, is a computer program, not a person. Nobody “believes” me.
Believe’s true identity revealed at last, and IT’S DOLLY THE SHEEP.
We know you do, your last comment gave you away. no need to try to explain it. And I don’t find you supporting a canidate because he is black in any way honor worthy. It is completely void of any integrety what so ever.
Obama’s are the racist! 20 years at a racist church!
It’s so racist pointing out how this country had legalized slavery and segregation and genocide against Native Americans. How dare they!
no, it’s the black liberation theology
That’s a mild way of putting what goes on at TUCC.
I personally believe that people vote their pocket books.
Oama is up against reality.
It has nothing to do with race.
It has a lot to do with elitism.
Obama isn’t thir “guy.”
I think they will stay home.
Obama is a drag.
I’m just getting plain bored with believe.
I also support Obama because he’s from Hawaii. I love Hawaii.
Well, I vote we ignore all ‘believe’s and if they want to post here and be responded to, they can each come up with a new name.
We waste a lot of time on ‘believe’ and have no clue who is who.
Board Admin, can you do something about that?
second that motion
motion carried then!
believe
and
believe
are now non-persons
later folks
Point of order Mr Chairman?
The only whitey tape will be all those anti-Obamans crying and whining at his glorious victory.
The tape will come out at same time as the real American birth certificate as well as the Kenyan birth certificate.
As a southerner, skin color means no more to me than red hair, blue eyes or any other physical attribute. When this primary started, “O” was third from the bottom…ahead of Kucinich and Gravel…with me. For one simple reason…NO EXPERIENCE! My opinion has not changed and will not change!
Interesting and informative post, iamOnly1, thanks.
Backtrack Obama is a privileged white guy with a bit more melanin than some of us. He’s using race, playing AAs, and throwing down the race card as if he grew up in Compton. If that was the case, he’d be a bit more believable.
BO has set race relations back 40 years with his divide and conquer strategy. Those chickens will come home to roost.
Thanks Medusa!
For him not to have done anything for the black community, and not even share the same ethnicity, makes it even more laughable and insulting that he thinks all AAs will march to his tune because of a coincidence of pigmentation.
Then go somewhere where your support is welcome. It’s not welcome here. If I am a racist, you are a narrow minded, intollerant pea brain pest who should go elsewhere with your small minded views. Not everyone will have your view, stupid, so hang out with those that will.
believe is voting for BO because his ears are sooooooo bigggggg…..
and did I mention he’s black?
That was the person using my screen name. I think that’s stuff and nonsense.
BOBO said you might mention that LOL
Your math is off.
If he wins these states, Obama actually WINS 271-267. And you forgot Iowa, where Obama is currently favored by nearly every predictor.
Let’s say add in Iowa and take out Nevada (which seems more likely) and Obama still wins 273-265.
The problem for McCain is that in Colorado, New Mexico and New Hampshire, there are close Senate races, two of which favor Democrats. In New Mexico, all their House seats are up for grabs as well.
Don’t expect anyone to admit their error here.
They’re still claiming Obama can’t win the Hispanic vote which he leads 2-1.
I think you are mistaken.
I just rechecked at 270towin.com, and he still loses 267-271. If he wins Iowa, yes he will win, but he has to pick up the three Rocky Mountain states as well for it to matter.
My calculation was based on the states Kerry won in ‘04 (he didn’t win Iowa). I think this is particularly generous, considering I gave him Michigan, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, which he will have to really fight for.
Please recheck your numbers.
Further, if you take out Nevada, and add in Iowa, they actually tie at 269 and no one wins
You are so right Medusa! That is one thing I will give BO all the credit for. Him & the DNC!
I’m a white former Democrat in a ‘deep south’ state who can’t wait to cast my first-ever Republican vote for John McCain for president. My husband and 5 more family members will be doing the same. His stategy isn’t working all that well now, is it?
Well, it’s not like anyone expects Obama to win deep south states. Democrats haven’t won those since they supported desegregation and folks like Jesse Helms left the Dems and became Republicans.
Actually, Bill and Carter won Georgia
But VA hasn’t gone blue since 1964.
Comment by believe | 2008-07-08 15:56:36
“The real reason you won’t vote for Obama is that you are all RACISTS.”
You know when all us bitter clingers were having our Amerikkka Meeting last night down at IHOP, this came up as a point of discussion.
We determined by a 2/3rd majority vote (that’s how typical white people make decisions in our super secret meeting about inviting AIDS) that we might come across as racists because we don’t kneel at his majesty’s feet all day.
The Grand Dragon made a good point. He said’ “Ya know fellas, this here Obama is only half black.” Why if’n we are racists we are only half racist too”.
He said some other stuff that sounded profound but I was busy eating my waffle.
LOL
I didn’t write that. It was the faux believe.
Don’t expect believe to get off our site, he’s as smart as a bag of dirt.
Don’t you mean bag of rocks? ROFL
Lose FL and Ohio You lose The election Simple HISTORICAL Fact…..So don’t worry about Obama winning any election, FL Cubans hate the guy and OH Biiter, Racist Folks won’t vote for Him….McCain might even Win Michigan It will be lose….
And then there are those of us in FL who are fed up that our votes count for HALF and who have left the DNC and are now registered independent. We’ll never vote for the Oblahhhmas.
The Cubans won’t touch him. The old-line Cubans are Repigs anyway.
I’m from Michigan and I only know 2 people supporting Obama, they are with the TEAMSTERS and Obama said he would get the Gov’t off the back of the Gangsters and remove the Consent Decree of having Gov’t oversight to protect the workers from the Union.
close*
If I were AA, I’d be insulted by being lumped in with the youth vote! Do I have to explain why?
Yes FL Dems but as you know that wet foot dry foot policy has given the Cubans a strong voting bloc and they are the largest minority in FL especially in dade country where Obama would need to win in to have any chance at all in FL
It will never happen. He couldn’t even get close to winning in Miami Dade. We’re stuck with an awful congresswoman, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, because of that voting bloc. After the Gerrymandering where we lost a good Dem congressman, we’re stuck with this pandering bitch forever.
The wet-foot, dry-foot policy is a mess. If they’re go ing to allow Cubans to enter under that policy, then Haitians should be allowed in as well. But alas, the Cubans who are the worst racists of all, would never allow that.
With the convention looming, a lil trip down memory lane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEFsBF1X1ow
I never read believe posts
If terrorist loving Hussein Obama is the nominee:
I will not vote for Obama!
I will not stay home on election day!
I will not write in Hillary’s name!
I will not vote third party!
I will vote for McCain and make the Chicago DNC find 2 new voters to replace me and to counter my vote .!
Hillary or McCain 08!!!!!
(Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Levine, Sinclair, Dohrn, NOI, Pflegar, Farrakhan, Black Liberation Theology, Chicago pay-to-play board games, etc..)
So what happens to the electoral map if white voters answer the call to vote your race? 90% of whites vote for McCain? Woops. Did that strategy backfire or what?
“I sincerely fear Obama and what the corruption of his soul could do to this country. I am not a radical type personality, and never before voiced political thoughts to strangers, friends, or neighbors — but all of a sudden I feel as if our very way of life is threatened by this man. I don’t care if he nominates the Pope or Sister Teresa as VP — I will not vote for him. I love Hillary and think she is our only hope — but I see her in a place of reverse slavery if she’s under Obama’s thumb”
Did you take a listen to a sound bite from Gayle’s (Oprah’s friend) radio show where Oprah talks about how she wishes her grandma would have lived long enough to see “all these white folks” working for her?
Why does Oprah get $55 million to talk about poop? Why does Oprah get her own TV and radio channel to shill for Obama? OPRAH IS POSSESSED. SHE IS NOW SAYING RACIST THINGS ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE JUST LIKE HER HERO OBAMA!! OVERDOSE OF KOOLAID.
http://www.tmz.com/2006/09/25/oprah-lords-over-white-folk-talks-poop-on-xm/51
That was a quote at the top. I don’t really support Hillary but it shows the anger of some Hillary supporters toward Obama. Oprah clip indicates how Obama’s race baiting is infecting the popular culture.
He may get many AA to come out for the first but how many Dems are not voting Rep because of him he left that out
excellent blog and i enjoyed the analysis. sounds like obama sold the dim leaders and dnc a bill of goods.
Does Obama really believe that all African Americans will only vote for an African American if an elective choice is between an African American and someone else? This is openly a race strategy, yet no one seems to be discussing it. A stunningly condescending statement from the “post racial” candidate.
This article gives me a new view of Obama. Perhaps he didn’t really sit in Rev. Wright’s church all of those years slaking a thirst for a hatred of whites. Perhaps he was looking around and thinking, “Hey, I was basically raised as a liberal white guy (like Bill Ayers, etc.), and I can get these ignorant fools to vote for me because I look black!”
Perhaps Obama is really “reverse passing,” to coin a phrase. Think about it. It would explain a lot.
90% of AA vote for Democrats in presidential elections each and every year since 1964. Obama’s not going to do any worse than that.
Except black republicans say they will vote for him.
Yes, a sad commentary, isn’t it. The Democrats know that they can depend on the AA vote. That’s why the Democrats don’t have to do very much for AAs, AAs are loyal to a fault.
Republicans, on the other hand, consider the AA vote to be unobtainable to them, so they don’t offer much to AAs, either.
AAs are the losers in this tired paradigm.
I wonder what would happen if AAs truly organized and said, “We’re going to vote as a bloc for the party that does the most for us. Make your case to us and we’ll decide.”
I don’t expect it to happen in my lifetime, but it would be interesting to watch the competition.
You have just revealed why his strategy is flawed.
Dems already get 90% of the Southern Black vote. It’s Southern whites they can’t connect to. If my memory isn’t failing me, I seem to recall a candidate who had found favor with these Southern, working class whites, and was going to win AR, WV and maybe even KY…but her name seems to be escaping me right now…
Oh, yeah, HILLARY CLINTON!
Obama’s inducement to get people to donate with the possibility of winning a trip with him turns out to be illegal in Minnesota. Whoops. OBAMA doesn’t care about breaking laws though just like he doesn’t care about breaking promises. NOBAMA!!!
Maybe The Comrade will just arrange to haul away all the republicans in those states.
The truth is the only place I see race baiting is on this website. At least once a week, someone comes up with this bright idea to write an article stating that Obama is basing his candidacy on getting the “black” vote. The people on this website is the problem. Anyone with half a brain knows that Obama cannot just count on the “black” vote. Obama is smart and he is going after everyone’s vote.
Would you kindly explain to me how talking about the black voting block is racist?
Is talking about the Jewish vote antisemitic too? How about us garlic noses. We’re a voting block too.
Stick it up your ass. We are sick of your race card. Everytime something doesn’t suit the Obama campaign they trot it out. The whole country will be rolling its eyes by November so please keep it up! Especially on TV!
Yep — this is the REAL Uppity!!
The only person I keep hearing bringing up Obama is Black is Obama
When you see a troll write: “the truth is” — you KNOW that will be followed by a lie.
This is one of the tricks that Camp Obama teaches trolls and thugs — begin ANY lie with “the truth is” or “The fact is. . . .” which is always followed by a flat out lie.
The Obama thugs at the caucuses used this technique all the time.
You hope Obama is smart - so far it doesn’t seem that way. He’s too busy flip flopping trying to second guess who he can pull the wool over. He may have played the race card and gamed the caucuses to steal the nomination - those tactics will fall flat in the GE. Too late, game over.
And please don’t argue Obama is smart because he was Harvard law. I want to know what his GPA is at Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. What were his LSATs? His debate performance has been pathetic. Obama cannot think on his feet.
So, I guess you have just as much of a problem with Obama’s quote at the beginning of this article, because he very clearly and explicitly discusses the African American vote, and how he plans to change the electoral map based on the increasing the black vote “30%, minimum”, because he’s black.
I got a call from the Obama campaign yesterday, asking for money. I said I wasn’t supporting Obama, because I thought he didn’t have enough experience for the job. She said they were hearing that a lot. Then I was asked if my opinion was racist. I came a little unstuck at that and listed a few more reasons that Obama is unacceptable to me. Obama’s campaign workers are programed to ask that question. She said that all the calls were recorded, so his campaign could anayize peoples opinions, so I know she wasn’t a loose cannon. Obama claimed to be the man to lead us all into post racism. All he seems to be doing is deepening the racial divide. I grew up in integrated schools. Our high school hero was a very talented quarterback who happened to be black and the nicest guy you could ever meet. Everyone in the school worshiped him. My church was a hell of a lot more tolerent than Trinity. Why didn’t Alma let Colin Powell run for prez. I would have voted for him in a heartbeat.
That’s horrible. You’re right. He’s dangerous on this issue. He’s creating divisivness where none exists.
And McCain, the Republican candidate, is running an ad as if it was 40 years ago. He wants you to know that he doesn’t like hippies!
Here you are.. I’ve been looking for you. Glad to see you didn’t lose your cutting and pasting skills.
Still looking for an answer to my question. Is Obama’s health care plan universal?
Obama explains why he shouldn’t be president.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obama_on_why_he_shouldnt_have.html
NOBAMA. Piece of trash!!!
Just remember to read General election Presidential voting laws if you are thinking of writing a candidate in. We all want our vote to count.
Information at
sos.ca.gov/elections/election_2008/calendar/section4.pdf
Strategy has involved G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Clinton, marketing newcomer Obama, stripping battleground delegates, threatening violence at the convention, and (if necessary) declaring martial law to prevent November’s general election. Meanwhile, revelations about the Illinois senator’s ties to Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko and two Iraqi agents are downplayed by the press. For their part, Democratic Party leaders have circumvented the official nominating process, declaring Obama the nominee by breaking their own rules and allowing superdelegates to “vote” before the convention.
Revised and updated July 6, 2008
Yep, that’s about the sum of of this sad situation.
So who is making this a black & white thing?
Doesn’t look like Hillary or McCain, but BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4295713.ece
“Now Barack Obama, the presidential candidate, wants to grandstand there too. But a simmering row between the German Government and the local Berlin authorities could rob the Democratic politician of a photogenic moment at the Brandenburg Gate and derail his flagship tour of Europe this month.”
Talk about grandstanding.
Headline at ABC:
Obama Family goes Hollywood;
Allow young daughters to participate in TV interview. Obama Girls dish about ‘08 race. the oldest says it was so cool to see her mom in People Mag, where the news is often about how much the stars clothes cost . . . (paraphrasing)
The interview is on Access Hollywood.
I really do beleive i’m going to be ill.
That some sick shit! I could see doing a tape but to have them do an interview, what would he not do to win. Oh, i know maybe he will pull his white grandmothr from under the bus.
This guy is a joke. I’ve been reading Hillary’s book and I remember the 90’s and Hillary would never have allowed the media that kind of access to Chelsea.
This is irresponsible parenting. How are these children supposed to maintain a sense of normalcy and be allowed to grow up outside of the media spotlight? It’s clear that Michelle and Barack didn’t ask Hillary and Bill’s advice about how to protect their young girls while running for president, and if they did, they didn’t heed it.
In contrast I remember reading a long time ago that Hillary Clinton did consult Jackie about how to protect your child from the media circus.
Disgusting! Didn’t someone in the media accuse Hillary and Bill of ‘pimping’ Chelsea out simply because she was out supporting her mother as a mutre young adult? But nary a word when actual children are used as a marketing tool for their parents’ greed and power quest.
July Leader Lost in 6 of Last 9 Competitive U.S. Elections
PRINCETON, NJ — In 9 of the past 15 U.S. presidential elections, the candidate who was leading in Gallup polling roughly four months before the election ultimately won the popular vote for president. However, narrowing the set of races to the nine that were competitive, the early polling proved prescient in only three of those.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108676/July-Leader-Lost-Last-Competitive-US-Elections.aspx
All the money in the world cannot win BO the South. What can he possibly say or do that would convince conservative white Southerners–most of them Repubs–that he, a black “progressive” (in his own words) should get their votes? White folk will come out of the woodwork in the South to keep him out of the White House! Count on it! There are no black Senators from the South, and nearly all–if not all-black Congressmen from there are from racially gerrymandered districts. And yet they’re going to elect a black man with BO’s baggage to the highest office in the land? I’ve read that his camp plans to work on voter eligibility for black felons and street people. Ya think maybe folks in MS and LA will just sigh and sit home when they hear that?
No doubt they will work on “voter eligibility”. They were registering/buying votes of street people like crazy in the primary… park benches listed as residences, etc. With inflation the way it is, surely the cost of those votes will go up dramatically. Hope so.
So this guy thinks that he can duplicate the Democratic primaries for the general election?
Does he not realize that no only do the Whites/Latinos/Asians will increase in the general election in these states as well?
The % depreciates even if all the blacks vote 100% for him. Unlike the democratic primaries where the % was 40-50%, he would only get 20-25% at tops in these states.
Hillary always made the point- He can’t change the map! He can’t. He can blow smoke all he wants, but in the end all he will do is run up popular vote totals. GA is not going to turn blue. Neither is MS or LA.
It strikes me as deeply sad that an African American would post this article on a website that got famous because of a fictional “whitey tape” and that regularly permits racist bottom feeders masquerading as “thoughtful progressives” to post hate speech disguised as discourse.It’s like a Jew posting a critique of U.S. policy in Isreal on http://www.TheHolocaustIsAHoax.com. Kinda undermines all credibility, duddn’t it?
THIS site became famous for speaking the truth about Joe wilson and Valerie and what Bush and Cheney were doing.
Why are you so sure there is no tape? Why did the Obama camp ask Michelle about the tape weeks before Larry wrote about it? No one ever answers that question
“Lyn” — hey guy WHERE is Obama’s birth certificate — the real birth certificate, validated with proof that any count would accept as proof??
Does Obama meet the Constitutional criteria to even be elected President?
Was Obama even born in the US? No I do know that Hawaii was a state in 1961 — but where is his valid birth certificate?
Obama’s valid birth certificate that any COURT in the country would accept as valid.
Why is it deeply saddening that I’m an African American? Are you holding me to some separate status because of my ethnicity?
Please stop your feigned indignation. The “whitey tape” is neither here nor there, and is not an issue.
I wonder if you hang around at BO sites where sexist and vile things are said about Hillary and other women, or where racist things are said and assumed about Middle Americans. I have yet to read anything racist on this site. And trust me, I know racism when I see, hear, read or experience it.
The facts speak for themselves. If you refuse to read the article or visit by blog and instead assess my “credibility” from your own stereotypes and assumptions, then it’s your problem and not mine.
The true racist measures human value by the color of one’s skin. If they are of a certain political bent, whatever race they believe to be inferior they patronize because they believe that members of that race need to be taken care of. They are shocked and “saddened” when the human objects of their racism do not politely “thank” them for their patronization by being cooperative and obedient, but instead stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. You are supposed to lie down and shut up and “behanve” because BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow’s people have taken care of you. That is why they are saddened.
IMO, Barack Hussein Obama has imposed the race card, unnecessarily, by his own volition, on himself. Not counting Geraldine Ferraro’s nothing comment, none of the democrat, or republican candidates have mentioned race. Sadly, the whole presidential black issue has been orchestrated by the Obama campaign, and the Rev. Wright!
“THIS site became famous for speaking the truth about Joe wilson”
…except for that whole pesky “Karl Rove is definitely gonna be indicted today” debacle. Remeber that? He heard it from a guy, who heard it from another guy that knew for true that Rove was going to be indicted. Sound Familiar?
Hey Larry, talk about oppo research! The Obama camp must take you as a serious threat if they are digging that far back into the archives.
Note to Obama: If you are really as unstoppable as you believe yourself to be, why not just ignore NQ? It’s already been arranged that Hillary won’t be on any ballot in Denver, so you’ve got the nomination in the bag. After Denver, short of there being a Michelle tape, all of the anti-Obama Democrat movements are just going to fold up and stay home, according to Axelrod and Dean. If you don’t need them anyway to win the general election, why waste time on their websites?
When are AA/Black voters going to realize that they are being used by a guy that sort of looks black (but could also pass for some other race)?
Obama is a mimic — he learned at an early age to mimic others. This trait is often seen in children who move often when they are young and have to learn to rapidly adjust to new cultures. Nothing unique or strange — however Obama USES this learned skill of shape shifting from one culture to another.
Obama never had to “suffer” because of the color of his skin — in fact WHERE he grew up being a person of color was an ADVANTAGE. I know because I also grew up in Hawaii — I know school he went to. Obama is one of the biggest con men to have bamboozled his way almost to the white house. But his hatred of women and a whole lot of voting groups, will keep him OUT of that white house.
Obama is also a liar — he has a whole lot of people believing he was raised by a poor mother (he often leaves out the fact that his mother was white). He picks and chooses things that makes him “more like” his target audience.
Bro befor HO?? But Obama isn’t a “brother” — he’s like a white guy who has put on a mask. Obama has props — a wife who is an angry black woman who wants more. She has a lot of what most people don’t have — but she wants “more”.
So many people have been taken in by “brother” Obama — and when these people wake up and realize that they were bamboozled by a con man who claimed to be black — but he is just a users just like all the others who have come before him.
Vote for someone with a record — or vote for someone who is a smooth talker. Sad.
PUMA
The “reverse passing” realization begins…
Fantastic article, iam0nly1, very informative. I love your work.
Thanks so much, Paul
Consider this: There are around 18.5 million Clinton voters; in 2004 around 14 million blacks votes overall. We ARE a larger minority and voting block than all blacks combined. Figure 90% go for Obama, that’s what, about 68% of Clinton voters to match.
Where am I going with this? First, Denver is still weeks away. And for myself, if it is not Clinton at the end of Denver, my vote and support go to McCain or simply to sit on my hands come election day. And forget putting Clinton on as VP, a ticket with Obama does not get my vote. Period.
“[McCain] wants you to know that he doesn’t like hippies!”
Obama wants us to know he doesn’t like hippies, too. That’s why he’s running to the right. He’ll take their money though.
The one good thing I can say about Obama is he’s making Daily Kos look like total fools.
Oh, for Obama pee-drinkers in denial: Bill Clinton campaigned on removing the ban against gays in the military — he never moved away from that liberal pledge during the campaign. But he was forced to abandon that pledge after he took office. Clinton was also forced to fire his Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders for advocating safe sex instead of celibacy until marriage. Political pressures drive candidates even further to the right after they’re elected.
Thanks, iamOnly1.
This is one reason I don’t see Obama as a leader: Winning is more important to him than the nation’s welfare. It shows up again and again in his record, and nothing is clearer in his record than what the “community” was that he was actually organizing.
He certainly isn’t a leader. If your claim to fame and experience as a presidential candidate is community organizing (i.e. voter registration) and a speech you gave in 2002 that you had to re-record in a studio because no one was around to hear it, you clearly aren’t qualified.
I do not for one minute believe Obama will take Colorado. He won the caucus, I know, but ONLY because there was a terible blizzard that day. It snowed 16 inches in February. In rural areas no one is going to venture out at night in that weather for anything less than an emergency. In addition this was during claving, lambing season. Storms cause a lot of problems for ranchers in the early spring late winter. Cannot just take off and leave lambs to fend for themselves. Ewes are not very smart.
That is why Obama won, no rural voters. My pricinct had 13 people show up to choose 11 delegates to the county convention. Hillary won 11 to 2.
November is not a problem. We have all day to get to town, and we can vote by mail. Ranchers and rural Coloradans are really motivated over the Pinon Canyon issue and they will be voting in large numbers.
Sorry, I meant calving. I don’t know what a clave is.
“I’m probably the only candidate who, having won the nomination, can actually redraw the political map,” …. a strategy based on dividing America along racial lines.
Who is the racist?
Who has taken America’s race relations back 30 years just to get in power?
What ‘Unity’?
Obama, as a middle-aged man with a thin resume, this is a desperate but effective campaign strategy (based on your 90% plus support from AAs).
But it doesn’t make it honorable.
You spoke about ‘unity’ … ‘hope’ but brought division and dishonor to the process and the office of POTUS you are trying win.
Thank God, many more are awakening to the real you.
BOB HERBERT appears to be rather independent and relatively free of the Obama KoolAid affliction.
July 8th Bob Herbert published in N.Y.Times a good article on OBAMA’S FLIP FLOPS-this by an AFRICAN-AMERICAN CRITIC! Also, Herbert wrote perhaps one of the best articles (before Obama poisoned the black community with his Race Card Baiting tactics against Pres. Clinton and the Sen. Hillary Clinton campaign)
on MISOGYNY AND MEDIA by an AFRICAN AMERICAN ever written! It was back in Feb. i believe in N.Y. Times. and and excellent critique of the horrendously sexist way Hillary was treated by the Media! Must reading!
I like Bob Herbert cause he’s fair and balanced! Too bad I can’t say this for Obama who’s bamboozled hte African-American communities like no other politician before him! Shame on this politic from the Chicago sewer system!
Elle’s comment is sadly true. Obama’s taking back the country 30 years with his RACE CARD POKER CAMPAIGN.
Does he think the intelligent African-American voters don’t see through his dirty smokescreen?!
he’s got something comin to him come November!
NORTHWEST RAIN, you got it right! At last, someone’s got Obama’s real number.
Barack is a mimic Chameleon who changes color of his skin to adapt in whatever environment he wants to blend into and make gains!
Obama’s You tube huge hit was his mimic act where he played the JayZ Rapper dusting off and scraping off his shoes….Hillary! He is SEXIST who does not respect women and uses them. Look how he desstroyed AA benefactor Sen. ALice Palmer in Chicago. He’s from the political sewers of Chicago and this dirty rat wants to infest the White House with hatred for his own roots. Remember what he said in his book, before his famour BROS BEFORE ‘HOS! –
“I am harboring this invested, deep-rooted RESENTMENT and HATRED against my Mother’s Race.” Nice. A racist in the White House who’s given money to his cousin Odinga in Kenya to promote SHARIA LAW in Kenya! Great references on this bozo’s skinny resume!
What a stuttering fool without the telempropter our Barack the ‘cool’ rapper with his ObamaThugs doing his dirty work–and the TV Leg Thrilling of Chris Mattehews and the venomous misogynist Keith Olbermann!
GENDER EQUALITY, AFRICAN-AMERICAN GAINS AND RESPECT FOR WOMEN are dead with Obamarama in the White House!
But you can bet your bottom dollar that Odinga in Kenya with his pro-Sharia Agenda will be getting the foreign aid dollar to go!
Rory Bellows and the COOL OBAMATHUGS ADOPTED AS ‘BRILLIANT STRATEGY’ THE RACE-BAITING CAMPAIGN STRATEGY THAT STOLE THE PRIMARIES!
STEALING ELECTIONS IS SOOOOO BRILIANTLY OBAMABOTIC!
BARACK STOLE THE ELECTION FROM AA MENTOR, SEN. ALICE PALMER IN CHICAGO IN ‘96.
BARACK STOLE THE NOMINATION FROM SEN. HILLARY CLINTON IN ‘08
PUT BARACK IN THE BIG HOUSE. NOT THE WHITE HOUSE!
Pumas Roarin’ in November
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
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If you look at overall demographics in the U.S. there are alot of other groups Obama needs to get in order to win. I though Latinos outnumber African-Americans? His thinking seems flawed.
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