Senator Hillary Clinton at HRC Board Meeting (2007)
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM in Barack Obama, GLBT, Hillary Clinton, Rev. James Meeks
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You know, I am pretty tired of having to write about Barack Obama and whatever crapola he is claiming/twisting/changing today. I am sick of him and his duplicity. Not that I am surprised by it - not one iota. I am just sick of it. And I miss hearing Hillary Clinton. I miss her speeches, I miss her rallies, I miss her passion, I miss her personality. So, I thought I would pull up a great video of her speaking to the HRC board. So, if you have been missing her like I have, sit back and enjoy listening to her, and appreciating all that she has done (and would have done as president) for the LGBT community. As has often been noted, she has been a stalwart supporter of this community. And has long been a friend to the HRC.
If only HRC had been as good of a friend to Senator Clinton. On June 6, HRC endorsed BARACK OBAMA. Yes, they did. Why? Oh, their director, Joe Salmonese said it was because of his Civil Rights record (which is what, exactly?), his strong support of the LGBT community (which he has demonstrated HOW exactly?), and all of the other hooey people generally spew then. I terminated my membership to HRC. After over 20 years. For HRC to not endorse HRC after all of the accolades they have bestowed upon her, and after her COMMITMENT to our community is simply reprehensible. I have lost all respect for them (and frankly, I was never all that thrilled with Salmonese anyway, and even less so now).
So, Obama - oh, yes - what a great friend he is to the LGBT community - NOT! Let’s just look at ONE of his closest friends and advisers. Yes, I am talking about James Meeks, IL state senator, and Baptist minister. Another organization to which my partner and I are long-term members is the Southern Poverty Law Center. In an article in Chicago Pride, it was reported:
A spring 2007 newsletter from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) named Meeks one of the “10 leading black religious voices in the anti-gay movement”. The newsletter cites him as both “a key member of Chicago’s ‘Gatekeepers’ network, an interracial group of evangelical ministers who strive to erase the division between church and state” and “a stalwart anti-gay activist… [who]… has used his House of Hope mega-church to launch petition drives for the Illinois Family Institute (IFI), a major state-level ‘family values’ pressure group that lauded him last year for leading African Americans in ‘clearly understanding the threat of gay marriage.’”The SPLC newsletter also noted that, “Meeks and the IFI are partnered with Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council and the Alliance Defense Fund, major anti-gay organizations of the Christian Right. They also are tightly allied with Americans for Truth, an Illinois group that said in a press release last year that ‘fighting AIDS without talking against homosexuality is like fighting lung cancer without talking against smoking.’”
Oh, goody - a twofer! He hates gay people, AND he wants to eradicate the line between Church and State! That makes Obama’s recent statements about expanding Faith Initiatives even more telling, doesn’t it?? If one of his CLOSEST friends/advisers/mentors is actively working to eradicate that line, I think it highlights quite starkly the influence someone like Meeks has in his life. And did you CATCH the connection to James Dobson’s outfit, “Focus on the Family?” Telling. Very, very telling.
But wait, there is more:
On a more personal level, Meeks has reportedly blamed “Hollywood Jews for bringing us Brokeback Mountain” and actively campaigned to defeat SB3186, an Illinois LGBT non-discrimination bill, while serving in the Illinois state legislature alongside Obama. According to a 2006 Chicago Sun Times article, his church sponsored a “Halloween fright night” which “consigned to the flames of hell two mincing young men wearing body glitter who were supposed to be homosexuals.”
Oh, what a charmer! And then there is Donnie McClurkin and HIS rabid anti-gay activity…
So you can see why HRC would have endorsed Obama, right? Yeah, me neither.
And speaking of HRC, here is a little tidbit from its FORMER Director, Elizabeth Birch, whom I did like. This comes from a report on the LA Gay Pride Parade:
In an LGBT Obama outreach call Friday (which openly gay Deputy Campaign manager Steve Hildebrand said included 1,200 participants), former Human Rights Campaign executive director Elizabeth Birch talked movingly about her pain and disappointment - not just at Clinton’s defeat and the complexities of having two role models for her two bi-racial children, but also from the perspective of the “scrappy 12 year old” she once was who dreamed of changing the world.That resonated with a number of Hillary-supporting lesbians with whom I spoke later. “Was Elizabeth the only woman on the call?,” they asked. “Where are the lesbians in Obama’s campaign?”
This is more than just pained disappointment - it’s a belief that Obama is keyed into the A-Gay white boys network that still tends to - perhaps unconsciously but from a sense of entitlement - dismiss women.
Huh - Obama is paying especial attention to the men but not the women?? It was mainly men on his GAY outreach call? Wow - who could have seen THAT coming? Oh, right - ALL of us.
Sigh.
So, take a listen to Hillary Rodham Clinton, the ORIGINAL HRC. Watch the person who SHOULD be president. Maybe there is still time. No, there IS still time. Forget the Ego-Sized Stadium for Obama - we CAN make a difference in Denver. We must make a difference in Denver.
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July 8, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 44%
Obama up ONLY 2…With all that Money, Media, and “The Movement” hahahah McCain and The RNC have just started to shoot back……Obama is going to lose BIG
And yet you ignored the 6 point Gallup lead a few days ago and all the other polls out there. Random fluctuation is to be expected.
Cherrypicking is not the way to analyze polls, that is if you really want honest analysis.
Believe, it looks to me like you are the cherry picker!!!!wahahahahahah
Amy, thank you for writing this. The LGBT community could turn this election around in five minutes, given the activists and money available. What do YOU think about launching a full-court press against DNC headquarters to challenge the coup d’etat of letting superdelegates “vote” 3 months early after stealing delegates from Michigan and Florida because their states voted 1-2 weeks early? Don’t you think we have them there? The party is committing treason against the United States and the American public knows it!
Waiting for August, when all the anger will be disssipated and the propaganda campaign to cover up what happened is 8 weeks along, it’s hard to see how anything will be accomplished then.
I’ve just posted a new article on this election scam, if anyone’s still interested in actually electing Sen. Clinton.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BushThirdTerm.html
Oh Boy. We are in for bigtime trouble if Obama steals the general..Yes we want Hill for nominee. The story about Obama and Lugar manipulating the gas prices for wall street has alot of people going hungry or out of work.
Anyone still voting for Obama after reading this is in serious need of mental health care.
Need I say more?
Yeah, believe, who is the cherry picker now?
You are so blind to the faults of your Messiah. For the sake of our country, wake up before it is too late.
80+% of the country feels we’re heading down the wrong track.
The Dem congress has SINGLE DIGIT APPROVAL RATINGS. Worst. Congress. Ever.
Where’s the Obama love?
And Congress is mostly Democratic, granted not so with the Senate. Pelosi and Reid tried to passively usher a Dem into the White house, by doing nothing and allowing the country to go to rot. Problems today are now under the Democratic watch in Congress, and in Pelosi’s, Reid’s laps.
No way!
I agree the Dems have screwed up, but The Worst Congress Ever™ had to be the Repub 109th–the ones we threw out in 2006. They’re the ones who worked two days a week and let our wounded vets lie around in their own urine.
Woe Betide the Democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3q8dHA4Hk
The current Congress has a 9% approval rating, one of the lowest ever.
It’s okay, believe that Nobama will win Ohio & FLA. It just ain’t happening, happy!
im from fla, and tell everyone not to vote for the fraud, i hear hes irish today! yeah right..tommorrow he will be italian or german.., we all know what and who he is..he is doing so well he has to come up with a high school gimmick to get people to send him $5, and a trip to see the all and wonderful irish, kansas, hawaiian , indonesian, african, muslim, christian, white hater by assc of course and also in his words, and american hater by associations of course, birds of a feather flock together.., drug toting, backseat biteer larry sinclair holder…rev wright, and pfleger are all the same in that way, ive been told..there is also information on how obama was sent here to undermine this country on one of the sites on here..next time ill write down the link..the dems are all in on the bank subprime loan bailout, with their sweetheart deals im sure they promised to get the bailouts in return, and now they not only want to bailout , but then they will have a loophole for us to bailout all the bad loans the subprimes will give to the fha, wonder why this economy went south in the last 18 mos! so the dems can blame bush to win obama selection? why do they keep lying about the 68 millons acres , that do not have enough oil to drill? why is it such a big deal to let the oil companies spend their money instead of ours to drill offshore while china is doing it! could it be because they plan to turn this country into the hands that have been trying to take us down for centurys? is that why they love moveon.org so much? soros owns moveon.org…i dont know about you, but im voting straight republican, they may not be perfect but they dont want to sell us out!
Believe, I agree with you cherry picking is no way wo analyze the polls…So why do YOU do it…just saying….
Obama sux.
Believe, Uhh…uhhmm…as much as Americans are disgusted with the Repubs, shouldn’t Barky O-Waffle be aheard at least by 15%???
McCain should be polling low….in the 20’s or 30’s…??! Could it be we see right through the empty suit? LOL!
PUMA!
Random fluctuation is to be expected.
Which accounts for you materializing on this plane.
Why don’t you give us a little shout-out when it’s okay to post a poll number?
Random fluctuation disguised as a precipitous drop, perhaps? A four-point drop from a few days ago would put him nearly outside the margin of error, which means things are getting very real, eh? Pesky.
I am surprised that Adolf Axelfraud allows his paid probama blog trolls to even mention the word honest as it brings up so much questionable material to discuss about Your Holy Oblahblah.
Really you should never use that word.
I dont believe anything Believe says–it’s simple.
but but, according to ‘believe’ 91% of hillary’s supporters are backing barakie now. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Chinese national years ago…according to her, Tiananmen Square never happened. Funny how propaganda can affect one’s thinking.
Stop talking about something you know nothing about. Other than what the MSM feed you with.
It happened, but not in the way you think. The original spirit of the movement was replaced by power hungry student leaders at end, and became a sad sad day for chinese. There are are similarity to the Obama crowd. By refusing to back down after the intervention and promise of the then priminister(a very strong reformist), 6/4/89 took placed. The pro reform priminister was removed and democracy advance was stalled. If you go to China now to ask those same educated people who supported that movement, they look at it queit differently. Don’t alway buy what they tell you from MSM. Infact, China is a lot more capitalist thean they are socialist. Forming an opinion before knowlege don’t make you any better than Obama supporters. Do I agree with what the goverment was doing? No! Do I want democracy in China? Yes! But let’s deal with facts. That inccident also made the leadership move fast on embracing free market to take attention from political reform, which drove their economy. There is a sizeble middle class in that country that will deman political reform in the next 10 years or so. Just wait and see. Democracy mean nothing when people are more concerd with food and warmth but are not educated.
Point?
Most Chinese know waht took place then, it was full of it to say otherwise. The only one who are that naive are the uneducated villager in remote part of the country.
Not buying the MSM feed of BO and do the opposite regarding China, What’s that word again? And your piont?
Kerry was up 11 points at this time and he lost, and he really did not have that much negatives on him at all compare to this guy!
with obama and the dems agenda you better be praying they dont win,,,unless you like living like a third world country, oh it will be a slow change,,to be sure..but that is their change..and theyve only just begun,,,try watching fox cable news to see more than just the gays on msnbc side,, they get the willys when they hear obama..woooo
huh? I swear earlier MSNBO had GALLUP stats saying Obama had a 30 pt lead with Latinos!
I remember stopping in my tracks “SHOCKED” of course not believing it.
Your stats sound more sane.
What a joke and I am latino. Where are they getting these polls?
Polls of Obama-supporting Latinos.
May be, just may be, they are making up these polls to manipulate people’s expectations, so when they steal the GE in November (with those voting machines that could be easily hacked with a hotel bar fridge key), it’d look plausible.
NoQuarter had a post last month, I think, about how these polls can be easily manipulated, simply by their sampling which is based on the assumptions they make etc.
Be informed.
That’s the key.
Gallup is indicative of trends.
Today?
Obama hasn’t come close to beating McCain.
I’ve been saying it for weeks… where’s the bounce? Oh I know! The “bounce” is going the opposite way! hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Hillary or McCain ‘08!!!
We have to do everything we can to defeat Hillary in her next Senate race. She is like Lieberman. We need to find a Ned Lamont to run against her.
Snap out of it!!
Bobo’s a clown.
In other LANGUAGES the name Bobo means “STUPID”.
You’re in the wrong place to be saying WE!
Don’t you mean Ned Flanders?
Doh!
No real Obama supporter supports that. Faking again!
so, are there any REAL Obama supporters?!
They are all Obamabots or 20-somethin thugs!
Ageists and Sexists = Obamabot Cultists
GO PUMAS, ROAR!
You are such a fool. How much are you getting paid. I ask the Ghost of Patrick Henry to stalk you for as long as you live.
I don’t believe in ghosts. Do you?
I believe ghosts are obama’s core constituency.
Tee Hee !!
Oh shit. It’s a Bob Johnson Troll infestation.
shut your big mouth please.
BWAAHAAAAAAAA!!
that Troll messge brought to you by:
Threats and Thugs, the Uhhbama Way..
OMIGOD!!! NEWS FLASH!!!!
IT’S BEEN DONE! BELIEVE’S IDENTITY UNCOVERED….
IT’S MICHELLE!
HOLD ONTO YOUR POCKETBOOKS, PEOPS!
Bobo needs to get a life.
Why don’t you worry about apostate muslim, unpatriotic Obama before you try to attack Hillary in the NY senate?
I guess you forgot how liberman won in Conn. to still be in the senate.
USA! USA! USA!
BOBO’s name is befitting. Try to follow along BOBO!
It would be nice if she’d run independent, BOBO. Then you are right, she wouldn’t be a Senator anymore. She would be POTUS!
Bobo, you are a dodo.
HRC won her Senate seat by 67% in NY, because WE LOVE HER HERE!! She gets the job done, period. She has even won over conservative upstate NYers, because she visits every county, listens, and addresses their needs.
It’s called leadership. Don’t mess with NY.
You go ahead and try there Bobo. And, while you’re at it, spend lots of money trying.
LOL!
Hillary will be a Senator from NY for as long as she wants to be. You are apparently suffering from delusions of grandeur.
Where has Ned been?, haven’t heard from him in a while. I see Joe Liberman all the time though.
Bobo- piss off. troll on over to Nobama’s site & get the heck outta here.
Comment by BoboBolinsky | 2008-07-08 13:10:49
Where’s the “Report This!” button?
How has Obama shown his support for LGBT people? Just recently he announced his opposition for the attempt to overturn gay marriage in CA. In other words, he supports equal marriage rights.
His opponent, the only other person from a major party on the ballot in November, doesn’t think gay men and lesbians should be allowed to marry.
How can anyone who cares about GLBT rights support McCain?
i can!
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
For McCain, it’s straight America first.
At least with McCain, America is in the equation.
Take your dick out of your brain.
barky should be, after all he is bi-sexual.
You mean the Tele-tubbies will visit the White House ?
Mmm. I wanna see Barky with a purple purse for his crack pipe.
barky should be, after all he is bi-sexual.
what a stupid, moronic, homophobic comment from SCOTT IN JUPITER. Hey, Scott: Why are you a homophobe?
whoa!
why is he homophobic?
the simple fact is it appears that Obama had some homosexual encounters with several men… the choir director of trinity church and that other dude…
nobody is saying its a bad thing, or a crime…
it just happens to be a fact…
why are you so upset about it? maybe you yourself are homophobic?
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Thanks gerald, I stepped away to bash 75% of my client base.
Think harder Gerard.
It’s funny but the gay guys I’m friends with have stated they would like barky better if was gay.
barky/closet 08
come for the preening
stay for the prancing
If mentioning that barky has some explaining to do makes me a homophobe. What does this make me.
barky was the ONLY member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators. 2003
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
Obama has been thinking of the children, he now supports the DEATH PENALTY for Child Molesters
Now BO wants the sexual predators executed.
It’s easy . McCain isn’t going to expand bushes faith program giveaways like BOBO is. Maybe you haven’t noticed but a big chunk of church going America isn’t all that thrilled about LGBT and BOBO wants to feed them more money to do their work.
Please check out Black Agenda Report and a few of the many LGBT positive sites and educate yourself. You will see things like the countdown clock until Barack accepts to participate in Chicago’s Gay Pride parade. It ran out. He didn’t attend. He got his hair cut at that time. Further, you’ll read about how he would not be photographed with SF’s openly gay mayor. How’s that for support!
Then again, will your programming allow you to read these things without changing your mind?
Don’t forget barackula’s touring sideshow with the “ex-gay” homophobe hypocrite Donnie McClurkin!!!
f*ck obama and his lying, cheating, racebaiting ways.
Actually Newsom isn’t gay - at least he is divorced and plans to marry again and has had affairs.
Obama just thought he was gay - goodlooking guy from SF.
Obama isn’t too smart.
That’s right. He’s pro gay, not gay.
Newsom has way too much gel in his hair… that is so un-gay.
And he’s a strong Hillary supporter. He will get my vote whatever office he run for in the future.
Sorry, but Gavin Newsome is not openly gay. He did support gay marriage before most other politicians.
yes he supports it this week when it is convienent for his election. it is his past actions that show his (lack) of real support to our community.
Yes… we all know about Barry’s love for the gays:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
SNAP !!!
OH believe, sigh
Uhhbama met with the LGBT community group IN THE BASEMENT while he waved with Oprah at adoring fans upstairs in the Staples Center
he took McClurkin on the road in SC
he refused to TAKE A PICTURE with Gavin Newsome, even after Willie Brown asked him again, he just wanted the money from the fundraiser, hmm sounds familiar wot?
he said dont ask dont policy position should NOT be a disqualifyer to his Sec of Defense pick..
his close adviser is SAM NUNN
now go google, you seem pretty uninformed for a 50 year old who is into Democratic politics and watching this campaign season…..
and PS McCain voted AGAINST the Constitutional amend to ban gay marriage
This is a logical fallacy you have used numerous times, Believe. Not supporting Obama does NOT equate to supporting McCain. Of course, I can’t blame you TOO Much - Obama sucks at Logic, too.
Obama has done NOTHING for the LGBT comunity, not one thing. He can say whatever he likes - all evidence shows he will flip or flop on it when push comes to shove.
And frankly, I am wearied of you constantly trying to hijack these threads, Believe. I URGE everyone to NOT ANSWER THIS TROLL. Believe CONSTANTLY hijacks our threads, and disrupts the discussion. Enough. Stop wasting our time.
Hillary was awesome for the LGBT community during the DOMA and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell periods. Especially when Bill ran radio ads on Christian Radio touting his legal rejection of gay marriage. Oh wait, we’re not supposed to count THAT part of her 35 years of experience are we?
Words just words! Furthermore, Reverend Amy’s article is about Hillary versus Obamabecile. McCain is not mentioned so please try to keep up!
My comment above is to Believe!!
None of them believe in Gay marriage. Obama is afraid to take a stand on anything. He’ll just say, Oh the states need to vote on this.
At least McCain is honets about whathe believes.
Anyway…..95% of the American people are against Gay marriage…they’re not against unions, just calling it “marriage”.
Actually it’s:
34% for Gay marriage
30% for Civil Unions
36% against Gay marriage (not 95% as you stated)
uh, think again, he does not believe in gay marriage, is on the record multiple times stating such. mccain believes it is the right of each state to decide and as such, is supporting ca’s right to put it on the ballot. their positions on this particular issue are not very different.
I can, I’m gay and there is no way I trust Obama.
i can’t believe the cowardice and greed shown by these people…
is there no loyalty, honesty and principles anymore?
good for you for canceling your membership!
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u6uffKvpA
another great hillary video…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Hillary has not been successful in controlling Bill’s often wayward and offensive tongue. This does not reflect well on her. Bill Clinton’s recent innuendo regarding McCain and the trauma endured by prisoners of war is utterly disgusting. This pot smoking draft dodger should stay away from any subject regarding service to one’s country. It will surely backfire and reflect badly on Hillary. This is just another example of his low standard of morality. What a disgusting pig! She would have been the nominee by now if he had moved to Canada and stayed there.
And your crybaby whiny-assed opinion would be…?
Whining? I’m on this site only because I am fearful of an Obama win in the GE and one way to stop that is by HC winning in Denver, which remains a good possibility if her hubby can just stay out of the way. Why are you here? I have made a constructive criticism. My opinion is clearly stated above or can’t you read? You and you’re buddies, Mather and Nitwit, below are as guilty as the Obama thugs and their threats you are always whining about. Your fear of discourse is a dead giveaway. Try stringing a few sentences together. It might help people understand your thuggish remark.
Republican troll.
oh fuck right off…
your an ass…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
god I love you. You dare to go where no man has gone before.
Oh my God, I just saw prince Harry on TMZ
La la la…happily strolling down McCain blvd here. A shame that Clinton Ave. is road blocked! And if you look down Obama Lane - it’s changing it’s look again and again and again…you get the idea.
LOL! I like this!
It’s not Obama Lane.
It’s Backtrack Obama Alley.
A back alley where all things shadey go on.
Barack Swamp is the best way to describe !
My, my, the trolls are out in force today.
Trolls are always working overtime for damage control.
I do not put much faith in any of these so called leaders of anything. Most of them have shit for brains and no judgment.
With all due respect, you do realize that the campaign between Clinton and Obama is over and that Clinton endorsed Obama, is raising money for him, and her staff is working for him, too.
actually it’s suspended.
You do not deserve respect because you post lies and you refuse to modify your position when you are given evidence that demonstrates that you have been posting lies.
When you make claims without evidence and evidence is requested, you do not acknowledge or deliver on the request, but you consistently demand that others supply evidence.
You are not here to learn and teach. You are here to propagandize and disrupt. In short, you are a 1984-style internet brownshirt.
What lie? I posted a part of a press release which establishes that Obama hired a Clinton staffer. Are you claiming that he didn’t or that the woman wasn’t a staffer? What is the lie you are pointing to?
And it’s rather odd to see someone writing on the internet compared to brownshirts. Is it so threatening to you to encounter people with whom you disagree? Why not just respond to the ideas expressed with some specificity (what was the lie in my post?) and go on from there?
Blinders (Tsk Tsk Tsk)
Today lies.
1. Kerry was not ahead of Bush in election day polling. That is typical NQ falsehood.
Two links to the polls were provided below. You did not respond. You did not apologize.
2. Obama has always said he would base the withdrawal of troops according to ground conditions.
False. Obama’s original position did not include the on-the-ground exception. The exception was added later. Further, he said the war was unwinnable, as noted in the video your post was commenting on.
As noted, your opinions are evidence-neutral. This means that facts have no effect on your position. We can not have a discussion with you because you run away when evidence is requested.
Further, despite the stories here, you remain blissfully unaware of the internet bullying that has occurred during this campaign.
One more tiny fact, which you can easily verify: the primary was over as of June 3. Obama had 2201 delegates on that day.
So of course HRC was going to endorse the winner of the Dem primary. What else were they gonna do? Endorse McCain? Or endorse Hillary even though she’d, like, you know, l-l-l-…. lost?
(But she DIDN’T lose! She really WON, it’s just that everyone else is in denial about it. The HRC should have supported a WRITE-IN candidacy for Hillary! I am so enraged that they did not do this, that I will be writing in Pat Buchanan in November. Or Dick Cheney. Or Margaret Thatcher. Or Robert Mugabe. ANYONE but Obama!!)
It may be over, but it is not dead. The spirit remains. That spirit of Hope and change from obama’s destructive campaign will continue right up till november.
New Newsweek poll today: Obama 59 mccain 42
Really? I hadn’t seen that yet.
Of course you just love to make things up.
WOW. Thats one point higher than the number of states.
So I’m not good at math, but I make some bitching waffles.
In my case, I’m VERY good at math, particularly statistics (time series, regression, logit, etc.).
And you still haven’t figured out that BOBO doesn’t add up.
and yet with your vast skills in mathematics, you somehow think it is fine that the ‘lead’ Uhbama had in the 175 pledged dels,(you know before they crowned him fool for a season, and cut off the process) that 85% of that lead came from just 3% of the total people who voted in the primaries/caucuses?
sad really
do you think your many comments and pasted Uhhbama talking points will affect the people who blog and read here? or are you hoping if you keep putting in misinformation and hopey changey talk that it will somehow make it so in November?
if the country wasnt in such bad shape and Hillary wasnt such an amazing candidate, it would almost be worth the stolen nomination to watch you maroons go down in flames in the GE
ACORN wont be able to file enough PHONY REGISTRATIONS to STEAL the GE the way the THUG patrol stole the caucuses, GOD WILLING
its TOPSY TURVY year at the DNC, nominate the inexperienced newbie over the policy wonk, the wild eyed lefty flip flopper with radical associates over the centrist progressive with years of service and a former POTUS for an associate, pretend you are the GOP and disenfranchise voters, oh ches, topsy turvy year at the DNC!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F5F64wuXOco
Lyric:
Crowd:
Come one, come all!
Leave your loops and milking stools
Coop the hens and pen the mules
Come one, come all!
Close the churches and the schools
It’s the day for breaking rules
Come and join the feast of …
Clopin:
Fools!
Once a year we throw a party here in town
Once a year we turn all Paris upside down
Ev’ry man’s a king and ev’ry king’s a clown
Once again it’s Topsy Turvy Day
It’s the day the devil in us gets released
It’s the day we mock the prig and shock the priest
Ev’rything is topsy turvy at the Feast of Fools!
Crowd:
Topsy turvy!
Clopin:
Ev’rything is upsy daysy!
Crowd:
Topsy turvy!
Clopin:
Ev’ryone is acting crazy
Dross is gold and weeds are a bouquet
That’s the way on Topsy Turvy Day
All:
Topsy Turvy!
Clopin and Crowd:
Beat the drums and blow the trumpets
All:
Topsy Turvy!
Clopin and Crowd:
Join the bums and thieves and strumpets
Streaming in from Chartres to Calais
Clopin:
Scurvy knaves are extra scurvy
On the sixth of “Januervy”
Clopin and Crowd:
All because it’s Topy Turvy Day!
Clopin:
Come one, come all!
Hurry, hurry, here’s your chance
See the myst’ry and romance
Come one, come all
See the finest girl in France
Make an entrance to entrance
Dance la Esmeralda
Dance!
Here it is, the moment you’ve been waiting for
Here it is, you know exactly what’s in store
Now’s the time we laugh until our sides get sore
Now’s the time we crown the King of Fools!
So make a face that’s horrible and frightening
Make a face as gruesome as a gargoyle’s wing
For the face that’s ugliest will be the King of Fools!
Why?
Crowd:
Topsy turvy!
Clopin:
Ugly folk, forget your shyness
Crowd:
Topsy turvy!
Clopin:
You could soon be called Your Highness!
Crowd:
Put your foulest features on display
Be the king of Topsy Turvy Day!
Clopin:
Ev’rybody!
Crowd:
Once a year we throw a party here in town
Clopin:
Hail to the king!
Crowd:
Once a year we turn all Paris upside down
Clopin:
Oh, what a king!
Crowd:
Once a year, the ugliest will wear a crown
Clopin:
Girls, give a kiss
Crowd:
Once a year on Topsy Turvy Day
Clopin:
We’ve never had a king like this
Clopin and Crowd:
And it’s the day we do the things that we deplore
On the other three hundred and sixty-four
Once a year we love to drop in
Where the beer is never stoppin
For the chance to pop some popinjay
And pick a king who’ll put the “top” in
Topsy Turvy Day!
Mad and crazy, upsy-daisy, Topsy Turvy Day!
________________________________________________
no offense to the hunchbacks and jesters
Whatever works for you believe!! You accused someone else of cherry picking…Now who is the cherry picker???
Are you really referring to a Newsweek poll?
Idiot.
Isn’t Newsweek changing it’s name to Obamaweek?
A Poll from Newsweek/MSNBC/NBC taken by Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews
you all know the original “believe” troll is not a 50 yr old, happily married w a nice house don’t you?
Yeah, believe is a punk kid still wetting the bed in his mommy’s basement
In order to be an obama supporter after all that has been revealed about him, you must be a taker and leach of society. You’re down on people with jobs and jealous of those more fortunate than you.
You’re so hateful of America that you would enjoy seeing it defeated in the world.
I say get some meds, get out of your parents basement. Brush off the Doritos off your fat belly and get a job Obamabutt.
One thing that can never be said about Obama and his followers,
Country before party/Country before self
McCain owns that phrase!
Obama has shown that he wished American defeat in Iraq just so that he could get elected.
ever notice how the trolls come out when a particularly good thread starts or the moron makes a particularly big lie/flip-flop?
you know we are on to something when the trolls come out…
woo hoo!
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Love the video thanks!
I think Hillary’s support of Obama is on purpose to further divide her supporters. I don’t know about everyone else, but it made me mad as hell seeing her bow to Obama like that, and I’m not even a woman. It screams sexist pig. Every time I see them together it reinforces this feeling. Hillary is the smartest woman I have ever seen in my life.
It was kinda like that comment she made about Iran. All these men were bickering about how Iran was secretly planning to attack with their new nuclear capablilites. She made the obliterate comment, and Iran immediately went to the UN and announced to whole world they didn’t plan on attacking anyone. BAAM instant commitment to the world without a single meeting. Absolutely fantastic how she quickly ended that subject and brought about a firm resolution and the media paid for it all.
She is doing this on purpose. Its called playing to the ego. Let Obama think he has it down. Let him show his arrogance. Let them take her off the ballot and hold a sham nomination. It will only make her base more enraged and in the end, she will get her way. Brillant woman indeed.
Its like a hockey game you don’t really want shake hands afterwards but you must.
What a strange theory.
BTW, most women support Obama, just like virtually every other presidential race since 1980 in which women support the Democrat.
You are absolutely wrong. Up to 25% of republican women supported her. This was known in October of last year.
Man what a generalization. There are women that are republican as well.
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/25-of-republican-women-predicted-to-vote-for-hillary/
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/430821/survey_republican_women_support_hillary.html?cat=62
I CALL BULLSHIT
:0)
PEW RESEARCH showed that is not the case and the GOP hasnt even started yet
to quote Stevie Nicks, I cant wait!!!
You’re right, thanks, I never thoght of it like that.
This is why it’s Bad Business to play poker with women.
Anyone who can fake orgasm five times a week will certainly raise on a pair of Fours…
LMAO!
HA!!
And pity to the poor man (Obama) who can’t tell the difference.
Never needed to fake an orgasm, but the pair of fours works and works and works for me. So hehe, funny. Best post of the day, Fred.
Yeah Obama for gay rights that why he would not have his picture taken with a gay politican in SF .
But he loves Sinclair.
That’s the Believe I believe
In all truth…
I don’t know what to believe anymore…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY
Actually, the politican, Gavin Newsome, is NOT gay, but a strong SUPPORTER of Gay Rights. Obama asked him to hold a fundraiser for him, but then wouldn’t even let a photo be taken of the two of them together. That speaks VOLUMES abt what kind of person Obama is, and what it says ain’t good!!
This is both shocking and sad that Obama could get away with this. Such rude, disrespectful arrogant treatment Mr. Newsome.
treatment of Mr. Newsome. Sorry.
Gavin Newsome is NOT openly gay. He supports gay marriage. That means if you openly support gay marriage BO will not have his picture taken with you.
“…the A-Gay white boys network that still tends to - perhaps unconsciously but from a sense of entitlement - dismiss women.”
Here’s the deal, Rev., unconscious discrimination isn’t one iota better than conscious discrimination.
Don’t make excuses for them. Break yourself of the habit.
I didn’t write that - it was from the ARTICLE I was quoting. Believe you me, I don’t give a crap if it is unconscious OR conscious - the result is the same> And there is very little excuse for that level of sexism in this day and age ANYWAY, IMHO. But thanks for making the point. I appreciate it!
Isn’t Obama gay or bisexual any way?
there have been a couple rumors on the “internets”:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cV0DvHgMugY&feature=related
Oh, it’s a fact? Please support your assertion with proof.
No, you love to use homophobia as a way to insult your enemies. You say you are against Obama, so you imply that he is gay. Do you understand how offensive that is to gay people who are also against Obama? Or are you just too stupid to get it?
your projecting here…
we are against obama because is is a common criminal… a sleazy politician… racist and ignorant…
the fact that he has had homosexual encounters with the choir director of his church, and might very well be involved in the choir directors murder are all just side issues…
nobody is saying the homosexual affairs are bad per se, what we are opposed to is the political corruption and murder and lies…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Also the fact that if he is gay, hes lying about it.
It’s also offensive to me, a straight woman who is for Obama. But I must say how much I appreciate you speaking up on this. Thank you, Vera Possumus.
We don’t care that BOBO is BI. We care that BOBO buys it.
Who cares if you’re gay or straight. The fact that you had to clear that up says you’re a homofob.
What word are you trying to spell?
BTW, most posts are written in response to others. That’s the norm in blogging.
Mine was written to response to another where the poster mentioned sexual preference, and that’s the context for my response.
…and to make sure those lesbians don’t get the wrong idea about you.
Believe, then reference your comment by including the name of the commenter that your post answers. Dear, do you have email? Does it irritate you when some of your friends stuff your email box with 5 to 10 posts a day that you have to wade through to get to where you are trying to go? Do you consider them rude? Sweetheart, sometimes less is more. Especially if your goal is to be effective.
project much?? did you even READ THIS PIECE you poltroon?
Thank you Rev Amy, I too left HRC and replied to Joe S. emals saying the group had failed to back the candidate who had THEIR back, and whom had worked so hard for so long UP FRONT for their causes
another disappointing group
more dollars for Hill and ACTBLUE good people like BIG ED OREILLY IN MASS
Hey everyone, give a dollar to BIG ED to defeat KERRY!!
http://edoreilly.com/
Oh, yes, that would be a great use of your money.
thank you, Ed thought so too!!!
but I gave to BIG MAC and Hillary also so dont fret yourself over it
but I SOOOO appreciate your concern
hey while you are managing MY money, vote Mccain so I dont get a whopping tax hike will ya?
gracias!!
BOOYAH!!!
and here is another FABULOUS place to donate for DEMOCRACY, ALL Dems should support this group:
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
Make your checks payable to:
The Denver Group
Mailing address:
The Denver Group
2118 Bancroft Place N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20008
ARe there levels of Giving?
Say, for $100 do I get to carry a torch at the
Nuremburg ralliesstadium?Can I sit near Donkey Brassiere for $1K?
For $10K, can I do the next Press Release to exxplain What Obama REALLY Meant?
Sounds sooooooo George Bush-ish.
Believe seems to have an opinion about everything…even how you spend your money! You know the old saying…Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!!!!
Amy, thank you for the post and video. What an amazing President Hillary will make. Several weeks ago bho did a women’s issues rally, you should post that video side by side with Hillary’s video. His speech so was forced I could not even sit thru it to watch till completion. Yes, he really showed how concerned he is about women’s issues by giving a written speech with NO PASSION or personal knowledge of the issues. Obviously did not convince me of anything.
Thank you for posting this. It makes me sad and furious all at the same time. If the “democratic” party follows through on their suicide mission to nominate BO, we truly will have been robbed.
The question is, will America commit suicide with the DNC in the fall.
I like this site, but many of the people who comment here are ignorant.
Believe: “Most women support Obama.” He just pulls this stuff right out of his ass. “Believe” is as bat-shit crazy as the commenters who think Obama is a serial killer of gay men in Chicago.
Hey “believe:” what are you going to do when Barry loses to McCain?
No, I pull these data out of national polls.
BTW, data is a plural noun. Datum is the singular form.
Give us the polls. Here are some of mine prooving that not all women are democrats.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/430821/survey_republican_women_support_hillary.html?cat=62
Of course not all women are Democrats. But women as a group - meaning the majority of women - vote Democratic in presidential races since 1980. The Center for American Women in Politics has a great historical data set on that, if you should care to see it.
a majority is nothing more than half plus one.
Quite right!
it can also be all minus one
“Despite the gender gap, President Bush succeeded in increasing his overall share of the women’s vote this
year. Senator John Kerry did win a slight majority of women’s votes (51 percent), but he lost ground from
2000, when 54 percent of women voted for Al Gore. President Bush’s ability to increase his share of the
women’s vote to 48 percent this year (up from 43 percent in 2000) is a major reason why he took the
popular vote this time around.”
Wildchild was right, the majority in the 2004 election of women voting democratic was 1%. this is from the very source you told me to go too.
http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/Facts/Elections/GG2004Facts.pdf
at
http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/Facts5.html
Now explain to me based of of these conclusions, if only 20% didn’t vote for Obama because of clinton that would be well BEYOND the 1 to 4% lead democrats has the priveledge of holding in prior elections.
first mistake… you asked believe to think
And yet another question ignored by “believe”.
and a date is a fruit produced by the date palm (Phoenix dactylifera).
a Datum would be one specific piece of data, such as one number like 42. In science a Datum wouldn’t ever be used becuase science requires mutiple Datum–DATA.
You are really very dumb. The simple fact that you have to show your ass and try to seam intelligent proves that you really aren’t. The statement was not neccessary and certainly was a call to authority. Stay on Target as Captain Kirk says.
a Datum would be one specific piece of data, such as one number like 42. In science a Datum wouldn’t ever be used becuase science requires mutiple Datum–DATA.
You are really very dumb. The simple fact that you have to show your ass and try to seem intelligent proves that you really aren’t. The statement was not neccessary and certainly was a call to authority. Stay on Target as Captain Kirk says.
Well, the report of a single person’s opinion, their response to one question would be a datum. The collection of datum in polls are called data.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/data
See, data is plural, and is used with a plural verb.
So you like the orginal Star Trek? I saw that as a kid. I think The Next Generation is much better - and Picard far more interesting than Kirk.
I thought it was funny when you said “these data” and then went on the define Data as plural.
Dude! the note from your own source said EXACTLY what I told you LOL. I can’t believe it! Its like you didn’t read the whole thing.
—Usage note Data is a plural of datum, which is originally a Latin noun meaning “something given.” Today, data is used in English both as a plural noun meaning “facts or pieces of information” (These data are described more fully elsewhere) and as a singular mass noun meaning “information”: Not much data is available on flood control in Brazil. It is almost always treated as a plural in scientific and academic writing. In other types of writing it is either singular or plural. The singular datum meaning “a piece of information” is now rare in all types of writing. In surveying and civil engineering, where datum has specialized senses, the plural form is datums
“IN OTHER TYPES OF WRITINGs” see that sentence. Thats what I said, DUH!.
data is used in English both as a plural noun meaning “facts or pieces of information” (These data are described more fully elsewhere) and as a singular mass noun meaning “information”:
So you like the orginal Star Trek? I saw that as a kid. I think The Next Generation is much better - and Picard far more interesting than Kirk.
Nah that one thing we can agree on. I like the newer star trek.
I use “Stay on Target” in World of Warcraft, when I am leading a group, and they get distracted. Its a cliche more than a statement of honor towards a tv series.
I preferred Star Trek: Voyager. A woman was in charge.
If Obama loses, I’d be disappointed. I wouldn’t DO anything in particular.
you’d be paralyzed. OK
Not really. I never have been before when my preferred candidate lost, whether it was a candidate I supported for a nomination or in the general election. If you’ve been involved in politics as long as I have, you really don’t lose it over such things. Sometime they win, sometimes they lose.
paralysis would put a big damper on losing it.
And believe continues the charade of being a 50 year old woman.
Believe is a know it all emasculated kid who can’t get off this blog to go find itself a job
Once again Believe you miss the point.
It’s not about Hillary
It’s about saving this country form a party that uses undemocratic tactics familiar to third world dictatorships.
No matter what you say everyone I know saw the democrats for the fraud they perpetuated on the people.
Country before party/Country before self
McCain Rising!!
Seattle, believe doesn’t want to get the point. His objective is to keep hammering at us in an attempt to get us to contradict ourselves. However it is he who keeps contradicting himself.
who said anything about obama being a serial killer???
do you know something we don’t???
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
and I have a low tolerance for stupid people!!
scratching my head here. Obama 46 McCain 44
Obama has all the money and attention. Ran ads in 18 states b4 McCain launched 1 and hes only up 2…McCain will crush him in the debates ( he will try and duck debates of course) I see a landslide disaster waiting to happen…Obama should have a 10%-19% Lead with Bush approval in the tank, Republicans losing seats. Here we go again Dems run another LOSER 2 wins in 37 years and we see why
Obama will never hold another debate. He can’t even answer questions on the fly by the press unless he knows the answers ahead of time.
Bush never held any debates either toward the end.
Its a simple commom old school political strategy.
Darryl, I’m sure you meant know the questions ahead of time because he doesn’t know the answers to anything.
Ahh, ummm, huuh.
Actually both he has to be feed the questions and answers in rehersal.
Why is it that the only place one can find optimism about McCain’s campaign is at NQ? It’s really quite striking.
And in Gaza, on the other hand, Hamas is optimistic about Obama.
Obama Campaign Site: Zionists = Mafia, Crips and Bloods, AIPAC = Nazis
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=1497
Hey, I saw that, “Brokeback Mountain,” flick.
I was a little disappointed.
What, no Show Tunes?
‘believe’ is what you would call a boring Obamabot. An Obore. All canned messages when they are not cut and paste. No humor, no snark, no wit. A cold person that doesn’t even sound human. Has an answer for everything and is neither funny or inviting.
There’s more..
How to identify an Obama supporter: As you are navigating your daily business, you may come across Obama supporters. They have been known to attack (mostly verbal threats and ad hominem) unprovoked. Preferring thought over emotion and facts over slogans is something of a blasphemous crime to an Obama supporter. In addition, if you should form an opinion about Obama without his express permission, you may be accused of being a racist. The purpose of this guide is to help you identify Obama supporters before they get the chance to dampen your day.
It should be noted that there are several species of Obama supporters.
O’Zombies: With glazed eyes and vacant stares, these subdued types can generally be found online. Their speech consists of incoherent rehashes of Obama phrases and, “like” and “y’know”. After having surrendered most cognitive ability to be used as seen fit by the Obama campaign, they generally possess just barely enough to be able to upload a video to Youtube. However, some aren’t so lucky and eventually starve to death having forgotten how to eat. They are not particularly dangerous, often not even aware of your presence when you are standing next to one. Some have suggested that merely being near one or watching their videos can be detrimental to one’s IQ. Avoidance recommended.
Obamatons: Also known as obamabots. Ever since Lenin nurtured the first breeds of useful idiots, communists have continually strived to create better useful idiots - ones that were stronger, faster, more useful than the previous generation. The obamaton is one which has been upgraded to the predictability of a machine. The obamaton seeks out communications relevant to Obama on the internet then responds. There are only two known responses. If the obamaton detects a statement which is positive regarding Obama, the obamaton will respond with requests for money. If the obamaton detects a statement which is negative or even neutral regarding Obama, the obamaton will respond by shrieking “RACIST!” repeatedly. Obamatons are only found online. They are sometimes known as “trolls”. The fact that they have yet to have a spine installed prevents offline activity.
O’lattes: To understand an O’latte, you must put yourself in his shoes. An O’latte believes he’s better than everyone else. And while he enjoys sneering at poor people and chastizing those who dare to question his supreme intellect, he is somewhat depressed. “Why can’t the world be more like me?” he wonders. Then, like a ray of sunlight, Obama appears. “Hey, he thinks he’s better than everyone else just like me!” exclaims the O’latte. Finally, the O’latte finds hope, knowing he is no longer alone in his narcissism. O’lattes are not dangerous, but nevertheless extremely annoying.
Obombers: These are Obama’s enforcers. Brutish and mute, these not-so-gentle giants have been known to become physically aggressive. While their actions range from roughing up old women at rules commitees to blocking camera shots for Fox News, they invariably use force. Little is known what motivates them to serve Obama unquestioningly. Some speculate that Obama supplies them with a daily ration of gruel and they reward him with unfaltering loyalty. They are moderately dangerous.
Yeswecans: Hailing from the make-believe land of Yesweca, these Obama supporters live in a fantasy world. In that world, Obama can heal the sick, stop wars by waving his hand, fly, summon unicorns, and coat the landscape with Obama-rectal derived pixie dust. When they are suddenly torn from their parallel dimension and thrown into our world, (known as reality), they tend to exhibit wild mood swings and the negative behaviors which often accompany them. For the most part, they have a surreally optimistic view of Obama and bubble with enthusiasm. However, when confronted with Obama’s mortal enemies, facts and logic, they will lash out in defense of their deity. There have been many speculations as to the true nature of Yeswecans. Some opine that Yeswecans are best understood as cultists, (see: The Church of Obamism), while still others suggest the root to be a mental disorder, (see: Obamitis). Regardless of the cause, Yeswecans can be extremely dangerous and should be avoided whenever possible.
Obamelites: They’ve turned politics into a business and Obama is their cash cow. A number of super-delegates fit this mold. They generally cluster around Obama in a protective swarm and rarely consort with the “little” people. They are almost never seen in public but often on TV. Because of their rarity in public, they are not much of a threat in terms of individual confrontation. But regarding the power they intend to wield as a bludgeon, they have great potential to damage America as a whole. In addition, they are known to betray former supporters/supportees on the turn of a dime, or, perhaps more accurately, in exchange for a dime. They should never be trusted.
Under normal circumstances, I would not assume that anyone reaches an opinion through a character flaw or extreme ignorance. But Obama supporters are an exception. Obama supporters continually slander and verbally bully those who dare to think differently than they. That is a clear indication of a character flaw. Obama supporters often know much less about their own candidate (not to mention history and geography) than the average person on the street that doesn’t even follow politics.
These fools are the face of your ‘new’ Democratic Party.
Obama is the Tom Cruise of the new DNC
He’ll be jumping on Poperah’s couch
I’m gay, but the idea of voting republican in Nov. disgusts me. But not as much as if I were to vote for Obama!Ugh!
At least with McCain I know where he’s coming from. With Obama he stands for nothing & he stands for everything.
I probably won’t vote. It will be first time in my adult life that I won’t. That disgusts me too.
Hillary I miss you!
You should decide on what’s good for the country, not for your crotch.
FANTASTIC POST! I love the Yesweca land–Brilliant!
the new Socialist Democratic Party
The make believe land of Yesweca Heh Heh Heh
Bella, ROFLMAO
“Obama will never hold another debate.”
There are three tentatively scheduled. Obama had about a dozen debates in the last year. They actually solidified him as “presidential” because he held his own against Clinton.
But don’t take my word for it. I’m just a lying Obamabot…not nearly as truthful as, say, a disbarred lawyer who wears a kilt to a press conference because his balls are too big or an ex-CIA man who talked to a guy who talked to a guy who saw the whitey tape.
Oh I will hold you too it. lets see how these “tentataively” scheduled debates happen.
Oh, he’ll have to have a couple of debates, if nothing else for show. Even Bush had a couple of debates. What I doubt you’ll see is any town hall type forums. Oblbahma likes things more controlled and formal.
If Obama does have any debates I wonder if he will wear that box under the back of his suit like Bush did? I would really be surprised if there are any debates though. The key word there is “tentatively” scheduled. Notice he refused to debate Hillary again after he made an ass of himself on the ABC debate.
There you go again, deluded and delusional. Remember Obama’s last debate hosted by ABC? That was a debacle.
Obama got off easily with the other moderators who never fielded him difficult questions, they always asked Hillary first. Then Obama would say, I agree with Hillary.
What a jerk.
I remember that too. I wonder if he’ll be able to say that too with McCain, “I agree with John”…actually, with his flip flops all over the map approach he probably will, never mind.
As a gay attorney, I’ve often supported gay-related nonprofits in one way or another, such as donations, volunteer work, memberships, etc. HRC has lost my gay dollars for endorsing someone so enmeshed with vocal members of the anti-gay movement. McCain may not be the LGBT community’s best friend, but at least he’s not smiling to our faces while stabbing us in the back.
I don’t believe that you are gay and you don’t sound like one. Poser.
Oh look….The poser calling someone a poser wahahahah
meta poserstering. Thats what that is.
Believe…..How does a gay sound……Hmm…..
how exactly is a gay person supposed to sound on a blog such as this “believe”?
Was he supposed to throw in some snaps and “girlfriends” in order for you to “believe” that he is in fact gay?
Signed:
someone who is gay but may not sound “gay” enough for “believe”
I believe….”believe” that you are an ass!! And nothing you have said so far has gotten me to deviate from that belief
I’m with, and wrote back to Joe’s “Yes We Can” email, the following:
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: hrc
> Subject: Re: Elect Barack Obama? Yes we can!
>
> Oh no we can’t!
>
> As an affront to all those LGBT folks that are married, and
> the many
> more that will marry, Obama stated, “I believe
> marriage is between a man
> and a woman.” And that was just 6 days ago! He’s
> back pandering for our
> votes? The same Democratic candidate that is considering
> Hagel as his
> VP?
>
> What’s with you guys? Are you masochists?
To wit they replied some major blah blah blah (I refuse to post propaganda from there here). I couldn’t resist striking back. They got:
I find nothing exciting about this selection process. I miss the Democratic Party I used to work so hard for.
I will either sit out this election, of, if things keep going the way they have been with the DNC shoving this (still presumptive) nominee down our throats (i.e., being crowned in a football stadium and not allowing Senator Clinton on the ballot), I may even jump ship completely and vote John McCain.
You know, during the 2004 election, when President Bush was calling for an amendment to the constitution and not one Democrat stood up tall to fight for us (sans Mayor Gavin Newsom), I was angry at the party. I felt like they knew we had no where else to go, and I understood that we had to eat it and continue to wait for our rights for the greater cause of getting a Democrat elected. But this election season has opened my eyes to the ugliness and underhanded behavior that exists within my own party. We could have had it all this year had the party elders not had it out for the Clintons.
I might not be able to call myself a Republican (yet), but I cannot and will not vote for the candidate the party elite has chosen. Not now, possibly not ever. He is too green, and the more talented, more experienced, more electable female candidate was shoved aside.
I will keep on talking to people, advising them of Just Say No Deal and PUMA. One by one, I am turning people around to realize we don’t have to just take what they give us. The Democratic Party will learn a hard lesson this year.
Sign me,
“No He Won’t.”
All of Obama’s friends and/or associates are haters. Even his wife is a hater.Even Obama’s preachers are haters. Helluva uniter for the hate mongers. Hope is his theme, Hope in hate. What can he/they , Obamas, hope to get by hating all the whites and the blacks who do not follow his brand of unamerican campaigning? Must be their Kenya culture because all the politicians in Kenya act just like the Obamas. Or maybe I should say the Obama’s act just like all the black politicians in Kenya.
Actually campaigned for his murderer cousin there.
I know. Even as the killings were taking place, Obama was actively supporting his murderous cousin.
Amazing I was thinking the same today, things have been really dumbed down…thanks for the post.
Okay, I have to say this and I am gay. Sooo gay. Alot of Gay people do not like Obama. I’m not saying all of them, but alot. Gay people love their women. Obama is a diva trasher. Obama did the equivalent of what Ike did to Tina. NO WAY BUDDY.
The change that Obama speaks off…Well he changed alot of gay people to Log Cabin Republicans thats for sure.
“Must be their Kenya culture because all the politicians in Kenya act just like the Obamas. Or maybe I should say the Obama’s act just like all the black politicians in Kenya.”
Huh?
All I can Say to the Democrat leadership 2 FUCKING winners in 37 years you Dumb ASSHOLES…And now it will be 2 winners in 40. You forever chose the weakest candidate to run against Republican. You’re the gift that keeps on giving…Hillary won every state, battleground state and swing state that you need to be President. She would be 20 points ahead at this. You deserve to lose and I will help you remain LOSERS
Yeah it’s time to shit can the new socialist democratic party . Start with a fresh Independent slate.
“Hillary won every state, battleground state and swing state that you need to be President.”
Except for Illinois, Virginia, Missouri, Washington, Iowa, Vermont, Oregon, Wisconsin, Colorado, Connecticut, and Minnesota.
So…using YOUR logic…none of these states are swing states, or are needed to win in 2008? If what’s true for Ohio should be true for Minnesota… Hillary lost these unimportant states than she can’t win them in the General election.
God you Obots are just plain dumb. Ohio is a MAJOR swing state with 19 electoral votes. Many of the other states have fewer electoral votes and Obama will need to win clusters of them to make up for MAJOR states like Ohio and Florida. You are all living on Hopium fumes.
I can’t wait to see the 527’s pop your balloon.
YOU added the word MAJOR.
I’m debating a different point altogether. But, congratulations. You beat the crap outta your strawman.
“I can’t wait to see the 527’s pop your balloon.”
Well, it can’t be any worse than the “Obama is a murdering-cokedealing-homo-nazi-muslim-radical-christian-felon-liar-liberal-conservative-hitler” crap I read here. For a moment it felt like 1992 again. Got any good Troopergate gossip?
Ummm, Please look at Washington a little more closely. The WA primary was within 3 points. The caucases were a joke. The Wa dems called me the other day. I said no $ from me, and no votes till you get rid of the caucuses and become democratic.
Just say no to the black liberation party.
Lets Get ready to Rumble
McCain HITS Obama HARD
“Don’t ‘hope’ for a better life. Vote for one.
“I’m John McCain and I approved this message.”
Big Mac ATTACK
Thanks for the info Amy. I have also been a long-time supporter of Human Rights Campaign, and will let them know how I feel too. Did they hold off their endorsement until after the primaries because of their preference and respect for Hillary at least?
Obama’s Audio Book May Hurt Him
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_Audio_Book_/2008/07/08/110818.html
To
ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama
meileen
I am with you both. As a member of the GLBT community I :
Did not renew my Human Rights Campaign membership when it came due, and told JS to stick it. I also,
Stopped donating to HRC
Stopped donating to NARAL
Stopped donating to Planned Parenthood
Plan A Hillary 2008
Plan B McCain
John McCain TV Ad: Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpyOSLZw8qo
Fred is going around posting his “Big Mac Attack” comment on every pro-Hillary site this afternoon.
It’s depressing and silly.
What’s your problem barry? We have no issues with anyone promoting McCain on this site. Most of us will vote for McCain unless we can pull off a miracle and Hillary becomes our nominee!!
The problem is that McCain stands against pretty much everything Hillary believes. In fact Hillary has endorsed Obama saying:
“I endorse him, and throw my full support behind him. And I ask all of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me.”
Any reminder that barry cheeto is actually voting against his beliefs and against the wishes of the woman he whole heartedly supports probably tears him up inside…
Also he doesn’t like to be reminded that most of the people that post here and the members of PUMA were actually Republicans all along.
Strange, strange bedfellows.
We’ve been thinking the same about BOBO lately, with his expansion of the bush faith program giveaway, his adoption of the bush exit strategy from Iraq, his support of telecom immunity. It’s difficult to image how BOBO could have won the primaries had he not lied about these positions to his mindless following.
Hillary was the only one of the canidates to vote against the anti-gay marriage ban. Take that to the banks and chew on obama’s pubes and may they give you everlasting hope.
According to one Obama relative, the Obama grandfather (Kenyan) believed so much in discipline that he converted to Islam because he thought Christianity to be too weak, for sissies like women. Something too harsh in this family.
John McCain Don’t Hope For A Better Life
” VOTE FOR ONE”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpyOSLZw8qo
I think Barry be needing some psychotherapy to cope with his upbringing. I sense insecurity on a large scale.
Big Mac Attack. Christ. Are we 8 years old?
Rev. Amy — thanks so much for the video of Hillary. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
You’re right, it’s NOT too late to elect the best candidate for President, the one who refuses to toss convictions out the window on a whim.
It’s NOT too late to pick Hillary.
The family is a nightmare and just because other people lived like that doesn’t mean we need it in the WH.
FRED: LISTEN TO ME: Stop campaigning for McCain in the comments section. You are not doing your candidate any favors.
We hatin’ on Barry around here. Either trash Barry or get lost. McCain ain’t my idea of a wonderful choice for Prez, even though he may get my vote.
You’re an unwelcome distraction and you’re acting silly. Nobody wants to watch your damn YOUTUBE.
Speak for yourself Barry, or are you the dude from yesterday that keep demanding to know why we were going to vote for McCain? I think your name was chinofromchicago!
Sorry tampongirl. I don’t have a problem. Except with the overuse of exclamation marks.
What a greasy pimple face punk you are barry puke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more exclamations for you asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…here I’ll lend you some of mine
THEOBAMAFILE.COM
Sorry for the caps but this will really scare you people who want to know about his family and early upbringing. It’s kind of like…who needs the birth certificate or any other revelations on the order of Larry S.
This is enough to make hair stand up on fire. Period!
I mean: Who needs anything else?
“the HRC board”
The Hillary Rodham Clinton board? !!! (no clue what hrc is unless i’m suffering a brainfart at the moment from exhaustion of cleaning out my garage in 110 degree heat).
Rabble Rouser YOU should contact this guy personally and ask him specifically what these things are that he says Obama did, that made him choose to endorse the messiah.
People need to directly confront these ppl as much as possible and ask them specifically to show us what are these things they claim the obie-won did that are so great.
H Human
R Right
C Commission
Rights (typo)
oic - never heard of it
I am also dissappointed with the HRC. We have not renewed our membership, nor do we have plans to. As for supporting anyone but Nobama… I’m a PK, yes an evangelical pastor’s daughter, as is my gay brother. Evangelicals don’t scare me. Separation of church and state. Obama’s backtracking, flipflop wafflefest(not surprised btw)does scare me. Cue sound of lockstep.
HRC = Human Rights Campaign
let’s keep chanting President Hillary to ourselves as we go through our day. Everyone please chant president Hillary
Madame president Hillary.
Hey Lou!
Finish up your Obamabot Koolaid..it’s Toxic!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
NoBama ‘08
ummmm
“let’s keep chanting President Hillary to ourselves as we go through our day.”
Wait. Whose followers are cultists?
A-Hillary Melaachem to you, too.
Dear UMMMMMM
How about chanting: God …..America, like Jeremiah Wright? Do you think that’s brilliantly unCultish….come on, drink up the OBAMABOTIC Koolaid the Leader left behind for you plebians…
come on drink up your ObamaramKoolaid there…
that’s the Follower….UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
…and keep your hearing tuned up till November 4th
Hear the Pumas roarrrrrrrrrrr
Wake Up, Obamabots Everywhere! You’ve got nothing to lose but your cultish, feverish Leader’s TOXIC KOOLAID UMMMMMMMMMMMM
NOBAMA ‘08
ummmmm
It’s painful to watch this video and watch the respect Hillary gives this group and then think how they turn around and back someone who thinks very little of them…or anyone .
” We don’t need the people , we just need the checks”
Barry Obama
I didn’t know that HRC endorsed Obama. How the hell could they do that? It’s like NARAL endorsing Obama.
I DON’T GET IT.
Disgusting!!
Probably $$$$$$$
What a horrible, tragic and perverse American lesson: you can get educated, get experienced, do all the hard work, and *actually* CARE about the issues, but it will all not matter…unless you ALSO cheat?
Is that it?
So, if cheating will get you there, what’s the damn point of caring.
Obama is a wicked lesson for America…a lesson that is SO anti-American, so OPPOSITE our American Dream–it should be shunned immediately for fear of cultural corruption…
Obama is wicked. A true villain.
Oh, and I can’t believe that Meeks had that Halloween scene…it’s just so cruel and grotesque!
These people are so hateful…please world, keep these people AWAY from our country!!
NOBAMA!
AMY - THANKS!
WE ALL ARE MISSING OUR HILLARY!
WE WANT HER BACK!
PUMAS, HEAR US ROAR, IN NOVEMBER
IN NUMBERS TOO GREAT TO IGNORE…..
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
NoBama ‘08
To: The Obmabots and McCainocons
GET LOST FROM THIS SITE!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
GO PUMAS, GO, LET ‘EM HEAR YOU ROAR IN NOVEMBER….
When the DNC ceiling will shatter from the 18 million cracks…on the heads of the Obamabots and hte DNC thugs