The Adulation of a Leader: a Cautionary Tale
By medusa on July 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Chicago politics, Crime, Cult, Current Affairs, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Democratic Party, Hate Speech, John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Messiah, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Obamedia, Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama broke with tradition when he moved the Democratic National Committee from DC to Chicago. For many of us, this move emphasized the merger of the Obama campaign with the Democratic Party. And to many of us, that merger made clear that the Democratic Party no longer belongs to the people, it belongs to Barack Obama. The move to Chicago is also significant because Chicago is the home to Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers, Tony Rezko as well as the crooked Chicago Combine. Barack Obama has alliances with these and other corrupt and unsavory characters and no doubt he continues to benefit from those alliances.
There is discussion that by moving the Democratic National headquarters to Chicago, he is not only increasing revenue for these characters, he is setting up Chicago as a site for the Olympics. Knowing Obama’s associations in the Windy City suggests that this move is not altruistic.
Now we are hearing that Obama will once again break with tradition during the Democratic National Convention to give his acceptance speech at a huge rally in the stadium of the Denver Broncos, known as Invesco Field. (See NewHampster’s post for some financial information on Invesco.)
The New York Times describes it this way:
The Democratic National Convention Committee and the Obama campaign announced on Monday that they would break with tradition and move the final day of convention activities, including the acceptance speech, from the Pepsi Center in Denver to Invesco Field… which can hold more than 75,000. A sea of 75,000 people swarmed around Senator Barack Obama at a rally in Portland, Ore. in May ..and Mr. Obama is planning a repeat performance at the Democratic National Convention in August..
Wanting an auspicious event, Obama will deliver his speech on August 28th, the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech. And if that is not propitious enough, Obama’s campaign is broadcasting that the last person to give such a speech to such a large crowd was in 1960, when John F. Kennedy addressed a similarly sized audience at Memorial Stadium in Los Angeles. Not everyone is convinced that bigger is better. Matt Burns of the RNC stated:
Not surprisingly, Senator Obama and his fellow Democrats are more focused on stagecraft and theatrics than providing real solutions to the challenges facing our nation.
Nor does everyone see the double omens of King and Kennedy as a positive reflection of Obama. Conservative commentator, Michael Barone said:
No one has done it since Kennedy because no one thought he could fill a stadium since Kennedy. Evidently Obama feels he can and feels he can stop it raining too.
Of course Howard Dean is excited about the decision. Dean said of moving the speech:
This is very much in keeping with Senator Obama’s philosophy and, I might add, my philosophy as well. I think it’s very fitting, especially the way Sen. Obama got here with his enourmous grassroots operation.
One thing we can be sure is part of Dean’s “philosophy” is that the Obama campaign has turned the change of venue into a fund raising event, something absolutely necessary for the impoverished Democratic Party. As the Washington Post put it:
And how did the campaign break the news to supporters? How else? Through an Internet fund-raising appeal.”I wanted you to be the first to hear the news,” campaign manager David Plouffe wrote in an e-mail to Obama’s millions of contributors. “…Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his.”
Prior to the August convention, during his trip to Europe this month Obama’s campaign wants him to give a speech at the Brandenburg Gates in Berlin. By doing so, Obama will accomplish an ancestral hat trick and evoke Ronald Reagan who addressed West Berliners there in 1987.
I understand that for Barack Obama, attempting to emulate powerful and famous people is essential. Obama himself has no record of achievement. He is now known as Backtrack Obama for all his flip flopping, and no doubt he feels he must persuade people by imitating his successful forebears.
But it’s creepy that he’s using the propaganda strategy of rallying huge crowds to hear him, while calling it an event for the people. It’s creepy because this tactic of using an energized mob has been utilized by tyrants throughout history. One doesn’t have to go back to ancient Greece, where the word tyrant comes from, to understand my use of the term as it is defined in Wikipedia:
In ancient Greece, tyrants were influential opportunists that came to power by securing the support of different factions. The word “tyrant” then carried no ethical censure; it simply referred to anyone who illegally seized executive power to engage in autocratic, though perhaps benevolent, government, or leadership. Support for the tyrants came from the growing class of business people and from the peasants who had no land or were in debt to the wealthy land owners.
As Heidi Li Feldman of The Denver Group said in her interview with Bud White for NQ, “you can’t legitimize something that is not legitimate.”In fact, at his request, Leni Riefenstahl made an amazing documentary about the rise of Adolph Hitler. The film, Triumph of the Will, is a beautiful and moving account of the early days of the Third Reich, of a time when Hitler brought hope and promise to a suffering nation. It is a haunting reminder that the faith and enthusiasm of German people gave rise to arguably the most horrendous deeds in the modern world . But the film itself portrays ordinary people coming together because they heard the charismatic and powerful rhetoric of a leader who promised to improve the lives of all German people. Here is the description from Wikipedia:
The primary aspect of the Nuremberg Rallies was to strengthen the personality cult of Adolf Hitler, portraying Hitler as Germany’s saviour, chosen by providence. The gathered masses listened to the Führer’s speeches, swore loyalty…the rallies served to demonstrate the might of the German people. The visitors of the rallies by their own free will were subordinate to the discipline and order in which they should be reborn as a new people.
I’m not suggesting that Barack Obama is Adolph Hitler. I am suggesting a cautionary tale of tyranny from recent history that has many eerie similarities.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Actually, I think Hitler was a better orator than Obama…much better, in fact. We’ll see who has the better production crew. I think the Nazis were pretty darn good at those public displays too, but they didn’t have TV. So the Democrats may be able to compensate for an inferior production with increased exposure.
I just hope that the Republicans who will be convening in Minneapolis a week later have their sharpist, most incisive message people ready to go with some potent rebuttals.
The Republicans have already come out with a couple of good campaign videos that deserve more exposure than they seem to be getting.
They didn’t have teleprompters in the late 30’s early 40’s either.
Adolph wasn’t big on uhs and ums
Hitler was a much better speaker than bo. Never saw him hem and haw in the films of his speeches.
It’s easy to fill a stadium when you have a free concert as in Portland.
Hitler’s stagecraft was top notch but Obama is no match for Hitler when it comes to getting the crowd fired up, Hitlar would have them foaming at the mouth.
It is truly frightening that we are having a discussion in which you can compare the possible next president to Hitler and it’s not far fetched.
agreed
Medusa, one of the most interesting aspects of the historical comparisions is the state of affairs that enabled both BO and Hitler to get to the front of the line. The isolation and political-economic conditions of pre-hitler Germany and current America are very similar.
Like NewHampster I react very negitivly to the call and response method of public specking. It was the first thing I noticed about BO’s speaking abilities. He, BO, is a very dangerous and foolish man.
well put, teak. And people who support him are even more foolish
AWOL OBAMA
ONCE AGAIN OBAMA SHOWS HIS LACK OF EXPERIENCE. HE IS SO LACKING HE IS PUMPING UP HIS RESUME AND REALLY EXPECTS US ALL TO BUY A POUND OF IT. OBAMA IS CLAIMIMG HE REACHED ACROSS PARTY LINES TO HELP PASS IMMAGRATION REFORM. One Senator says differently!
READ THE REST AT:
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/awolobama.aspx
Seems like whatever Obama wants he gets form the DNC.
Talk about pandering.
George Soros owns Obama. It seems George Soros owns the entire Democratic Party. George Soros is the sponsor of MoveOn, Media Matters, DailyKos, and Blue America. One of the three to work on VP, Johnson,was a Soros business associate. My bet is Soros decided on Obama because he can CONTROL him. Soros knew he could NOT control Hillary or Bill. Google Obama & George Soros, you’ll find out even more involvement. Obviously, Obama has no convictions. The question should be, what does Soros want?
It is odd how little is known about Soros and how few people are even aware of his involvement in Obama’s campaign. I asked my husband a few months ago if he knew how Soros made his money and he had just a vague idea about him dealing in currency. He thought he bought on a depressed market and sold when it became stable again.
I saw him on cspan once and he was introduced as a financier and philanthropist, but his political actvism wasn’t mentioned. Who is he and what is his interest in American politics?
Oh yes indeed. I also think Soro’s is behind a lot of the economic woes both here and abroad. Many suprer rich, try for super power as well.
It’s not pandering, it was Dean’s idea too! –not really. Dean is trying to sound relevant. He sounds like someone who lost his wealth in an e-mail scam, but still hopes for a return.
Obama’s breath smells like smegma.
Hey, am I the only one that knows the meaning of “smegma?” Man, I was rolling on the floor with your comment.
No, I got it too.ROFLMAO!
Ok,you both lost me. Don’t know what smegma means and am not too good with alphabet soup. Enlighten me, please. I want to get the joke, too.
The term was popular in the 80s and used by boys to describe ejaculated sperm.
It’s the nasty stuff under the foreskin of an uncircumcised penis.
eeeeeeeeeew- thanks for the clarity.
I guess I’ve been watching too much Sex in the City. I thought that was called spunk, as in funky spunk. Thanks for the vocab lesson — now I’m laughing.
Smegma is gross and so is Obama.
Believe has been French kissing Obama. Fact: your own statement.
This is frightening. Obama and his crew are manipulating American voters in such a shameful way. This is like a Hollywood extravaganza like Ben Hur. Honestly where is the reality?
His campaign reminds me of Wag the Dog.
Yes, exactly!
Having a big speech is so very scary!!! I mean, people support Obama would go to the speech and listen and cheer!! Really, really scary!!!
Why was that?
Since the point is lost on you completely, I must assume you are very young — am I right?
Probably an outsourced troll with a talking points list and very little imagination of their own.
well, i used to go to a lot of rock concerts when i was a teenager/early 20’s, but when you get older, you find that listening to a CD is usually preferable. Obama rallies are creepy, that’s all there is to it. and if you’ve read Mein Kampf, you know that Hitler said point blank in it that mass rallies are the best way to manipulate people through emotional appeals. he was quite open about his use of propaganda and the various ways to maximize its effects, and as we all know, he was quite fond of the mass rallies.
I did too and the only thing to worry about was getting busted for pot. But, this is 2008, it has been a nasty campaign, the Black Panthers are trying to make their comeback in Denver, Code Pink is threatening to disrupt the Convention, Obama supporters are agressive and the Denver police are stretched just covering the Pepsi Convention Center.
This is a really stupid idea. His narcissim and his campaign’s arrogance WILL be blammed if violence errupts and someone gets hurt.
When I think of Obama and his supporters, I visualize boots on the ground marching, right hands saluting the Fuhrer.
Nice thing about fascist socialist regimes..
They always draft the Youth into the military soon after gaining power.
This Youtube video speaks directly to your point…
Larry Sinclair vs. Obama’s Stormtroopers
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7iKcmFYVpOI
Sinclair is on the radio at 10PM Eastern. Go here and listen to Network 3.
Shine my jackboots, whitey.
Love,
MEchelle
LOL.
I don’t know what to believe..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY
Hey Believe
how can dean and obama be proud of how he got there?
stealing votes? stealing delegates? sabotaging the democratic process for his own personal gain? racism? dividing the country? besmirching everything MLK fought for?
oh dear….
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Flip-Flop on negative ads.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/08/an-obama-flip-flop-on-negative-ads/
I agree with the Germany comparison – where was Germany during that time period – in deep economic distress. The people were looking for hope and change – Obama is riding on the same wave of despair that Hitler did in Germany.
America is in deep despair – this is prime time for a character like Obama to take advantage of the people. Promises Promises Promise – none that will come true. I pray that we don’t ride the wave of destruction that Germans did.
This is scary stuff.
Coming to an election near you soon.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iz_xZQ3ZLZw&feature=related
good comparison and yes, it is scary! People wonder why so many followed someone evil like Hitler and others. I don’t have the answer. I am not easily influenced and I certainly am not gullible so I can’t imagine why in the world anyone would do this let alone millions.
All these comparisons between Obama and Hitler,
here’s a difference, Hitler wasn’t even born in the
country he wanted to rule!!
Oh, wait a minute……my bad.
OT, anyone else notice the DNC convention was
planned over a year ago to have the last day
fall on the MLK speech anniversary?
Coincidence?
Or more proof of Backtrack being ‘chosen’ in advance.
I didn’t know it was planned but makes sense. No doubt the jig was up at least year ago, if not before. I wouldn’t be surprised if the DNC hadn’t decided on Backtrack in 2004, when he was chosen to give the speech.
Did the DNC ever consider he may not win and the wake up with McCain as President and the DNC in Chicago
I`m not buying them a ticket back to Washington.
That “new” democrat party can stay the hell in Chicago. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Don’t care anyway — I’m Independent and won’t be joining another party — except for PUMA!
PUMA
Obviously, they’re in it for the long haul. If not ‘08, then 2012. They’re aiming to outlive Hillary’s core supporters. And in 2012, all the kids 14+ who are gaga for him, will be eligible to vote.
The prospects are really quite ugly with this fraud.
Fugly!
True, but by then, do you think the newly 18 year olds will be disillusioned by Obama?
Sen. Obama(D-Manchuria)is REALLY starting to creep me out.
Whoever would have thought that those crazy sounding militia people might be right.
Excellent work, Medusa. Very effective and I like the image of Invesco there at the end.
I made a video, “The Obama Cult,” which intersplices images of the Nuremberg Rallies with images of Ofraudma at his gatherings of bused-in supporters.
Many are picking up on the extremely conscious and cynical cult of personality tactics being employed by BaJoke and his posse. Excellent.
The sooner we can expose this pretender for what he is, the sooner we can ship his bony behind back to corrupt Chi-town.
Thanks Paul.
Yes, you probably recognized “Invesco” at the bottom from the 1936 film made by Riefenstahl of the Olympic games held in Berlin. All these similarities must be noted by the public. Otherwise, history will repeat itself.
You’re welcome, my friend.
I did not notice “Invesco” at the bottom of the film made by Riefenstahl. I’m very glad you told me about that.
I and many others have caught all kinds of heck because of making analogies between the kind of appeal Hitler, Stalin and other historical scourges sought and that which Barack is consciously seeking and working hard to foment.
There is no argument, however, as you know. All of the evidence is so profuse as to be almost unnecessary to point out: ‘The One,’ halos around the head in campaign materials, open discussions of purges to take place should he be elected, brownshirts making all manner of threats to non-believers, the damnable tactics of ACORN and a seeming infinity of other corroborating information.
The burden is no longer on anyone to have to believe that this man and his radical flunkies are a threat to our nation and its way of life. The burden, instead, is on those seeking to disprove this. BaJoke Ofraudma is a megalomaniacal radical who has, quite obviously, drank his own Kool Aid.
The only thing worse than a would-be Messiah is an incompetent and inexperienced one.
BaJoke, that is your cue.
Keep up the great work, Medusa. You and everyone here at No Quarter.
Hitler had Wagner and Obama has Rap.
Too bad they aren’t having the convention in Chicago. Since they threatened us with riots and blood in the streets, when they lose it would be their own maggot infested lives they’d be destroying.
No doubt, then they could truly ‘recreate 68.’
These people, the ACORN types, are the lowest life forms imaginable. Pfelger, Wright, Obama, Jackson, Jr. and Farrakhan — all making their living being pathetic race and poverty pimps, while corroded gates at dilapidated tenement buildings they set-up as part of some quid pro quo for their mentors are killing innocent children.
Bullshit.
Never will I work harder to defeat a candidate than I will to ensure Herr Obama’s ‘Downfall.’ This is America, dammit, not some two-bit land that countenances Stalin, Che and Obama.
By election day the Iraq War will have been won.
McCain will be viewed as the American Hero that didn’t shirk when faced with almost universal condemnation for his advocacy for the surge and against popular sentiment which called for retreat and defeat.
McCain will be viewed as a Hero for winning the war.
A Real Leader
Obama just sat on his appeasement hands wishing defeat.
I remember when many pundits said that the Iraq War would be ‘hung around’ McCain’s neck during the election.
Not looking like a bad thing for Mac, looking like a very bad thing for Backtrack.
Huh? Maliki said he wants the US out and McCain’s no so sure about whether we should go. And the majority of Americans want us out and think the war was a mistake.
Granted, you don’t agree with most people on this, but perhaps checking out the polls would be a good move before making claims about how an issue would be playing would be a rational move.
put the pipe down…you’re not making any sense.
Polls don’t matter to me
When it comes to the protection of the United States and her allies!!!
Maliki is taking charge of Iraq and is uniquely allied with America.
We have won the war for democracy in Iraq.
Obama and his supporters preferred certain defeat and misery for both Iraqi people and America.
America and McCain have won the Iraq war.
Obama why did you sit on your hands wishing defeat?
Hillary got up and clapped like a true patriot!!
I don’t really know who “most people” are since I’ve never received a call from a pollster and I doubt anyone else here has either. At any rate, my take on Iraq is this:
We invaded the country without a single person in this country protesting the move, not even Backtrack. (OK, he made one pretty speech to a small group of uninterested listeners. Did he do anything else?)
Why didn’t anyone protest? Because we, like Congress, were duped, whether by the Bush administration or Saddam himself is still to be determined. I personally thought the invasion was idiotic, but I also trusted the Democrats I elected to office — and who had the benefit of seeing the intelligence — to speak out if they also thought it idiotic. Do you remember any who did?
In the process of invading, we destroyed Iraq’s government, military, police force, infrastructure, and social structure. And now we want to pull out before stability has been restored to the country? That strikes me as immoral. We allowed this mess to happen, and now we need to see it through.
And no, Virginia, I am not a Republican — yet.
Carolyn, there were protests held in large cities across the country and even in the moderate sized city where I live although the number here wasn’t large. This is a military town. The thing is, my husband and I talked about it many times while Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others were beating the drums and we hoped until the very last minute it was just talk and maneuvering. I guess we believed they would not actually do anything without the UN. If things had gone as they planned and it really was Mission Accomplished, many Americans wouldn’t have protested at all. Do you think we have learned the lessons? In one generation, we forgot Vietnam. There are not many who agree with Charlie Rangle about reinstating the draft, but it was conscription which finally forced an end to that war. I am a pacifist and a Buddhist, but if winning the war is the only way to end the killing, I am happy progress has been made. I do believe the majority of protesters to the invasion of Iraq were the “old hippies” the Obama people have dismissed as irrelevant. Just a bunch of us old coalition Democrats who remembered Vietnam. And, BTW, I have never believed for one moment Barack Obama did anything other than use the discontent for political purposes.
I wish there had been protests in my little part of California (the central part). I would have joined the protest. If there were any, though, the local media ignored them, hence no one knew they were going on.
My real issue now is the idea of bailing on a mess that this country has created. If Bush didn’t deserve impeachment over this debacle, no one will ever deserve impeachment. But then, Queen Pelosi took that off the table.
Obama the low class hustler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxzqwRJUzM
Tyrants need huge crowds — Jim Jones had his crowds — Rev. Moon has his crowds.
Cults need to see their messiah — that’s why there are the mega churches with cult leaders — the cult leaders always want bigger churches and bigger audiences.
Cult leaders always have enforcers/thugs to reinforce/enforce the will of the leader.
Former cult members who have escaped can see the signs of this National Obama cult and are very upset — how can seemingly normal people be drawn up in this cult speak/think?
Hitler was one of many tyrants.
Obama is a modern day mega tyrant wannabe.
WE stand in his way.
PUMA.
My family was in a cult. And this Obama cult terrifies me. But I believe the Republicans will destroy him, I am already stocking up on popcorn. The most addicted cultists are going to have serious withdrawal when they find out they have been conned. Hopefully this will lead them to believe in God instead of a scrawny black guy.
If this is a true cult, and it has all the elements, they will not be moved by the political outcome and will be very angry. Donna Brazil mentioned three distinct groups they have pulled into their “New Coalition”. Younger (college age young adults), more urban (African Americans) and more suburban (wealthy liberals). The wealthy liberals don’t fit the personalities of those who join cults, but young adults and African Americans do. Young people are more invested in personalities and African Americans feel disenfranchised and need to believe a Black man could make a difference in their lives. Cult members have to suspend logic so they will do anything they can to elect Obama. If it is not dangerous in the way of Hitler, it is still dangerous. There is no happy ending here for Democrats. Hillary is by far the most qualified person, but the delegates may be so intimidated, their decisions may be based on actual fear. I have been concerned about her safety for months and the reality is something no one wants to contemplate. It is a real danger to our country to have some who seem capable of violence forcing the selection of Democratic nominee and even the presidential election itself.
Let’s face it everyone, Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Reid and Brazile have hijacked the Democratic Party. This is not the Democratic Party-this is the Obama Party and they should start calling it for what it is. All of the negatives add up to alot of crap that makes no sense. He has to have a bigger stadium, Rev Wright and they all think that is ok, he has the DNC moved to Chicago, terroist ties, ties to freaks like Farrakhan. Can you imagine what would have happened if Howard Dean had ever become President?? OMG…..
I think the problem is the Dem party has just moved so far to the left it is now unrecognizable. They have done everything they can to remodel it to what they want even when it means being dishonest, breaking rules and having no integrity. That is wrong but they got away with it. All they needed was alot of far lefties to go along with it and they did. Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it. So they got it but they need to quit thinking the rest of us are going to go along with it.
So they can go ahead and chant, adore, worship, whatever they want to call it. But the things that last are what comes from hard work, integrity, honesty, responsibility and character. Wait and see.
All they needed was alot of far lefties to go along with it and they did.
And don’t forget the cheerleading and obfuscation of the media. They couldn’t have done it without a 24/7 PR promotion from the media. That is the only reason the busy and tired masses who don’t have time to do much research have followed along, believing in the image that has been sold to them.
Illusions, however, by their very nature lead to disillusionment.
They have not moved far to the left. Why doesn’t anyone see this? They are posturing in name only.
Obama’s recent speeches (and WORMs) about a woman’s right to choose and so-called “faith-based initiatives” should be proof enough that Obama is not left of center. The pandering that he and the Democratic party are doing should show that all involved are morally bankrupt and have absolutely no ethical ground (or real, definitive platform) whatsoever.
What Obama and the Dems are doing is giving the attention-starved and control-starved academic Dems (the ivory tower liberal left, if you will) the illusion that they may matter once again. I work in academia, and am myself very left of center. For the past eight years, left-of-center academics have suffered considerably on academic campuses across the U.S. We’ve been ridiculed and threatened with everything from lawsuits to disciplinary action by those on the right who claimed that we were pedaling lefty-loony ideas (you know, like evolution) and hampering “free speech” because we’ve tried to keep separate the ideas of church and state in the classroom.
(And you try telling a freshman composition student that using his or her personal convictions of faith and the Holy Bible as support in an essay is not academically rigorous or defensible.)
Under eight years of Bush, we have watched our once-fine institutes of higher education become cesspools where academic rigor is a joke, students are woefully underprepared and cannot think for themselves, and administrators have never, ever spent time in a classroom and worry most about the bottom line — and are often as not Republicans.
Now, Obama and Dean et. al. come along and tell this disillusioned group that it can make a difference again. These are highly educated, very committed, sometimes fairly well-moneyed people who have felt completely powerless for eight years, and those eight years came after eight blissful years with Clinton in office.
Obama and Dean et. al. are selling what this group is buying. Period.
It has nothing to do with Obama’s politics or the Dem party’s politics being left of center.
It has everything to do with perpetuating oligarchy, but with someone other than Bush’s crowd running the show.
Period.
Obama is purposely trying to take on the personas of great and good leaders of the past. He is not them and he is a poor imitation.
He has actually taken on the persona of an evil leader – Hitler. He may not be Hitler but he does a pretty good imitation.
Even Hitler wasn’t ‘Hitler’ while he was taking advantage of his population’s fears.
Tragedies often start with a honeymoon period. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be ‘tragedies’.
Heil myself, heil to me;
I’m the Kraut who’s out to change our history.
Heil myself, raise a hand;
I’m the greatest dictator in the land.
Everything I do I do for you;
If you’re looking for a war, here’s World War II
Heil myself, raise a beer;
Every hotsie totsie Nazi stand and cheer!
(sorry Mel)
Great way to put it, Jay. Hitler WAS the kool aid messiah. He had followers like “believe” who believed his every word. People think that Hitler was always known as a monster, but he rose to power because he duped a nation. Just like BO.
He’s not Hitler, just plays him in real life.
Just found out the real “believe” got fired this evening. If she shows up here again it is an impostor, or she’s doing freebees.
good, what a pain!
In a strange way…
I’ gonna miss her….
Here’s a repeat of my earlier dedication to Believe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ckyGJr5DiJY
Oh I hope so. I am really tired of her robotic propaganda. Next: get rid of USSR, though I think he is a plant, because every response sounds scripted to provoke with it’s canned “do not question the Chosen One” incantations.
Just curious, but since we don’t know who believe is; How do you find out something like she’s been fired. Funny I always thought believe was really a male.
I left the party it is really sad but they left me no choice I am now an IND
I wonder how many people left the party if there is numbers on that!
Could you imagine what has been sent the DNC, shoes, soda cans , checks with no money ect it must be fun in the mail room. I would love to hear it.
I DID!!!!
INDY PUMA~!
“No one has done it since Kennedy because no one thought he could fill a stadium since Kennedy. Evidently Obama feels he can and feels he can stop it raining too.”
Of course he can fill the stadium. They will bus people in like they have the entire campaign, promising them concerts or steak dinners or whatever else they need to do to get it to look like a sea of worshippers.
Like the RNC spokesperson said, “it’s all stagecraft and theatrics.” That sums up Obama, and I felt this way about him from Day One. I can remember watching the early debates and saying out loud, “He’s the weakest one on the stage.”
So, he gave his speeches, imitated from MLK, JFK, RFK, and many swooned. For me, they sounded like he ripped them off and his own voice was absent.
Nothing has changed. They are trying to invent a leader, instead of him actually being one. A manufactured legend. Millions of us are not buying it.
My first thought when I heard of the stadium rally was: “Will it be proceeded by a torchlight parade?”
No, but Kristalnacht is next week.
And Jews, a majority of whom support Obama, will mark that solemn occasion. It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama mentions the anniversary. He’s so aware of Jewish holidays that he issued a statement about Purim! Well, he does live across the street from a synagogue and the rabbi there supports him but thinks he is a bit too conservative on Israel.
believe, you are such a sad little lap dog.
Yet you can’t answer the fact that Jews support Obama. Never a factual response, just a bunch of personal characterizations.
You have every group supporting Obama. I wonder who the hell all those people are that supports McCain.
You do not make sense. Your statements are “facts” that we are obliged to respond to?
You want facts, then let me give you some “facts,” kiddo. (Oops, I’m sure you’ll call me a racist because I called you a kid, but what the heh.)
My husband recently went to a NECA/IBEW wage negotiation. For those who don’t know, NECA is an electrical contractors’ group and the IBEW is an electricians’ union. There were 12 people present, all Democrats and all unionists. Not one person there planned to vote for Obama. Not one person we employ (about 10) plans to vote for Obama.
My large family, that mostly lives in Oklahoma, are fourth-generation Democrats — yellow-dog Democrats, as James Carville would call them. (We’d rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican.) How large are we? My grandmother had 12 children, 9 of whom lived to adulthood and had large families of their own. We literally number in the hundreds. I’m not aware of one person within my family who plans to vote for Obama.
That’s who we are. Live with it.
Kristalnacht is not a Jewish holiday, what are you thinking?
Gee, I’m getting tired of stupid trolls.
Kristalnacht as a holiday, yeah, sort of like the attack on Pearl Harbor. A real party holiday, that.
Kristallnacht was on November 9th 1938
Before I was born, but I know about it. We must have some very bad teachers. This band of bo kids don’t seem to know anything except how to work electronic music devices.
well the DNC doesn’t care now because they are enveloped in a fantasy world where we all “get over it” and support the Democratic party. They have no idea….but they will find out. I think because enough people do fall in line and vote their party even if their candidate didn’t win. But this was so blatantly falsified and skewed and they done pissed off alot of us women-shouldn’t have done that!!
Wait until after August, I can’t wait to see them mop the floor with Obama. Say BYE BYE Pampers….
A lot of us women? A majority of women under 50 voted for Obama over Clinton and a majority of women overall now support Obama over McCain.
Most women are far too practical to throw their vote away to protest Clinton losing. They actually care about health care costs, the war, energy policy, the environment, and reproductive rights — where McCain and Obama have very different records over their years of public service.
That’s right we care about those things that’s why we are going to vote for McCain.
People who agree with McCain on those issues are called Republicans.
So what? Republicans are my new friends.
Me, too!
And people who agree with Obama are not Democrats, they are braindead.
Which war?
Iraq or Afghanistan?
Both. And Obama’s the only one who is focusing on Afghanistan.
Obama is focusing on Obama, he is confused…Like you.
I’ll bet he sings to himself in the mirror.
He only wants to end one.
Please remind me what Obama’s position on abortion is- I forget. -Something about he does not care about a woman’s emotional distress and McCain and the majority does?
Was not there something else about if an aborted fetus lives, it must be killed. Isn’t this contrary to most- despite party affiliation?
Also, can you point me to his health care plan because I heard he has not adopted or written his own.
I forget about his stance on the War- pull out Day 1?
I also forget about Pakistan- did he say he would bomb our ally?
I get so confused that I may just have to throw away my vote to McCain because he is much easier to pin down.
McCain and Obama also have very different records on equal pay for equal work, on a very practical level, in how they pay their DC and campaign staffs. Women on Obama’s staff are paid on average $7,000 less than the men who work for him; women on McCain’s staff get paid as much as, and in many cases more, than the men do. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder and more convincingly.
And as for “reproductive rights,” many of us menopausal women that you Obamatrons are so sneerful of don’t have a dog in that hunt anymore. Since many young women also seem to think it’s a slur to be called a feminist, I say let them fight for their own reproductive rights.
As I mentioned in another thread, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (named by his parents)does not give a second thought in copying other famous people’s achievements, because HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY!What is worst is he enjoys being compared and gets a piece of glory.How pathetic and phony Obama is.SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
GOD SAVE AMERICA !
Hillary or McCain ‘08
Hillary used to compare herself to Eleanor Roosevelt. Did you yell SHAME then?
Did she wear hats?
Or pearls?
Eleanor Roosevalt would LOVE Hillary. She was a strong woman just like Senator Clinton.
Will Obama also stand at the prow of a boat while crossing the Delaware?
He will just part the waters.
Are you nuts? A person could fall in up there!
They only thing Obama and JFK have in common is they both used drugs
Have you ever read the stats on drug use in the US? Almost everyone used drugs. That’s why this kind of attack against Obama will have ZERO impact.
smoked crack, but didn’t exhale?
Yeah, but we don’t want our president using drugs.
” Almost everyone used drugs…” What on earth are you talking about and are you so hard for Obama that you will excuse that too ?
What I really want to know is this :
I saw a photo of his lovely wife this afternoon and her eyes were bugging right out of her head.
I’m no expert, but I’d like to play ” name that drug ” with HER.
She’s on something really serious.
This is so true. It would be great to know what she’s on.
Her potential first lady platform could be, “just say yes to drugs, kids, because America is going to quash your dreams”.
wrong Tricia. Obama and Kennedy: both left handed.
It’s a miracle I tell you! A miracle.
Another miracle: McCain is also left-handed!
I love being Left Handed!
John Kennedy, Jr. was left handed, but JFK his father was not.
Since JFK was right handed, is that a sign that BO won’t be president after all?
It cracks me up that Obama’s cohorts like to compare him to JFK. For the record: JFK backed an invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs — sort of. His indecisiveness, in the end, led to the invasion’s failure and the slaughter of those “freedom fighters” who hit the beaches. He nearly got us into a nuclear war with Russia, again over Cuba (anyone remember ducking under their desks?). JFK also increased the troop levels in Viet Nam from 800 to 16,000. He was hardly a peacenik or a far-leftist. (That’s Teddy’s legacy.)
Don’t get me wrong. I’m a big fan of JFK. But you Obamatrons ought to read a little history and try to get your facts straight.
Obama: Inexperience America can NOT afford in wrecked economy.
HUGE RAISE IN PAYROLL TAX. (hits your income)
TAX DIVIDENDS, INCLUDING RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS AND YOUR 401K. (slows compounding interest/ slows your savings rate/ twice as long for funds to double)
NO WE CAN’T HAVE A GAS TAX HOLIDAY. (hits your household budget)
CAPITAL GAINS TAX FOR SELLING A HOUSE. (less equity after sale)
SAVINGS TAX. (slows growth/ robs compounding interest)
DEATH TAX.(robs inheritance)
ESTATE TAX.(see above)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF_GExM4-yY
;(
This sure sounds like a McCain supporter, indeed, part of his base. Taxes are so scary!
Taxes are scary unless your living in mommy’s basement and don’t have yo pay them.
Sounds to me like a thinking person.
And, many of us people who continue, despite Orwellian threats, to think for ourselves, are going to kick BHO’s sorry ass by voting for McCain.
They are when you’re the one who has to pay them.
Interest rates in the tank and Obama wants to take 25 percent of what little you gain. The pig.
You’re making stuff up again.
Can’t anything be done about all this? Does Senator Clinton know what is going on really? Does Pres Bill Clinton?
We really really need them to speak up and take back democracy in America. This is not a time to stand back and look on, this is a time to stand up and fight….
I am afraid for America.
Yep. They know that Obama has lots of supporters who will go to hear him speak. And that doesn’t sound particularly scary to them because, well, politicians like to have people come and hear them speak.
It’s not terribly earth shaking.
Annie,
I’m very sorry that you have fear about this. It is, however, understandable, reasonable and logical. Ideals you have maintained throughout your life seem to be laughed at or,
worse yet, co-opted and mutated to fit someone else’s slanted mindset.
I saw what was going on with Obama a number of years ago when CBS, I believe, interviewed this young, dynamic politician. I recall thinking at the time that he bore watching simply because he was eloquent enough to fool people. He knew his plan then and, in a way became obvious to the initiated or to those who were shown.
Our esteemed host earns (and I mean, EARNS) a very good income doing what he does because it takes skill, training and quite often, instinct to see the potential of people willing to achieve their ends through deceit. That people really exist who think that playing at the Big Table is everything seems to lots of us, a thing of cheap thrillers.
I wish it were so.
Once is an accident.
Twice is a coincidence.
What number past three is necessary to understand that this guy really means to try for the brass ring and lie, cheat and steal to do it is anyone’s guess.
What I do know about fear is that there are two main ways to react to it. To do nothing is not reacting so, One: Pull a full scale Monthy Python and “Run Away!” Seek someplace else on the planet or in this country far enough away that you probably won’t be affected in your lifetime. Or Two:
Make this place a place where people who try the crap they are trying get voted out, shunned and, in every other way possible, informed as to the inefficacy of messing around with the finest form of government in the world.
In other words Annie, its your “Goddamned America” only if you are willing to fight for it. Not die for it, Fight for it.
Everybody here has to look inside themselves and make that same decision, Annie. The time for whining and crying is past. America was screwed when one of the two main parties was illegally co-opted.
Dems, Reps, Indy’s, all political affiliations must make the same decision. Will we as Americans, allow someone to take over, now even with threats of violence, one of its two main political parties knowing for certain that there is an agenda which may well destroy our nation?
Me, I am pretty much against that last part.
America’s intended plan for a system of Checks and Balances was to keep any of the three sides from dominating the others. By the simple fact of basic principles, we accidentally came upon a system which allowed for two basically parallel centrist political parties to carry the weight of the nation.
The application of social pendulums has made the maturing of this nation possible. When we have needed to be more giving and maternal, we have done so. When we have needed to show our teeth and occasionally take a bite or two of somebody’s arse, we have done that. And after we took those bites, kicked those butts and broke a lot of furniture, we helped put them back together so they would act properly toward each other.
Sadly, it is time to clean our own house. It is infested. The little selfish bastards are on both sides of the aisle.
To me, the only thing to do is to MAKE CERTAIN that Obama is defeated.
Whatever bedfellows are required, its “Move Over Darling.”
As part of that, anyone who has endorsed Obama, (No, not her) gets voted out too.
The gravy here, folks is that any Rep who has “tasted of the fruit of corruption” gets voted out too so it isn’t all bad. As long as we insure that the new Dem candidates at local levels get the “No more corruption or pork” message.
I shall now climb down from my soapbox and meekly fix my wife dinner.
My sincere best wishes to you all
I just cannot believe Hillary won’t do something about Backtrack the bad man! She is such an action person and she loves this country! I keep thinking if I were her, I’d expose the fraud man even if it meant the end of my career. I think she has something planned. I am hoping it is running independent and she can announce it at the convention. Something like, “I have been denied my right to role call and millions of Americans denied their voice. This must not stand. The democratic party has left it’s morals and principles. I am announcing that tonight I am leaving the democratic party and will be running as an Independent because I will not allow a con man to hijack America.” Wouldn’t that just steal Barky’s thunder??? The MSM would go ape shit and forget all about Barky’s little speech while they try to trash Clinton. Think about it. She is not not going to do soemthing or she would have conceded and released her delegates!
After his remake of Triumph of the Will, Obama will be starring in a gospel version of Evita.
Obama the low class hustler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxzqwRJUzM
There is a black male judge on tv that calls bo and mo’s type of behavior ‘ghetto fabulous’.
This just in:
The Trojan Condom company has just closed a deal with the DNC to provide “Rain Hats” in case of inclement weather at Invesco Park. The Company assures the DNC that one size fits all.
I want a “glow in the dark” one.
“I want black!!!”
Love,
MEchelle
This man (Obama) will try to channel the persons of the past to gain power, and will push himself though at any cost, Why doses nothing stick to him ? Why doses the media choose not to report on anything? we can see, we can read, we have learned and still he gets a pass, who is really running this show?, and was this planned years ago? I have many question and no answers.
Well, considering that what NQ wants the media to report is backed by no credible evidence (Sinclair, birth certificate, whitey tape), they can’t possibly put that nonsense on the air or they would be laughed off the public stage.
You see, journalists, while flawed, actually have some standards.
If you think these are big issues deserving coverage, you could start a campaign to put ads on the air, like the Swift Boat guys did. Go for it!
Believe !!
Welcome back !!
Did you mention Larry Sinclair?
Yea… I don’t know who to Believe either..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY
Since bo dissed the media the other day, better beware the pack of wild dogs they can turn into.
Journalists, good ones, anyway, have more than standards — they have a code of ethics, even if it is situational. Those of us who have actually studied that code of ethics believe in the concept of objectivity. Many journalists don’t even vote to prove that they are not taking sides. Please, somebody, tell that to a-thrill-ran-up-my-leg Matthews and Obamabot Obermann! They’re an absolute disgrace to the field of journalism.
And for the record, I’m retired from journalism and can say anything I please about any candidate I want. What a relief.
Comment by Zeke | 2008-07-08 19:26:42
How appropriate, since Obama is the Trojan Horse the DNC is trying to wheel into the White House. Who is crouching inside?
In the 19th century the French theorist Le Bon wrote about “The Psychology of Crowds.” Despots, czars, tyrants, dictators, and politicians have been applying his theories ever since. But nowhere was it more studied and practiced than in Germany in the 1930’s. The country was in a deep state of financial depression, many citizens, like the people commenting here, saw what was coming and spoke out and or emigrated to other countries but many succumbed to the unconscious forces at work in crowds not dependent on age, class or education but rather on an appeal to feelings, passions and aversions. Le Bon stated that “suggestibility is more acute in a crowd and a contagion of ideas ensue.”
It is indeed ‘creepy’ that first Obama must always take on the image of other leaders from Lincoln to Kennedy to MLK and secondly that his strategy, though not original, is to speak before enormous crowds without any leadership qualities, decision making skills, experience, political record, military experience(even Hitler served in WW I). This is definitely bizarre for Americans and for the Democratic Party to allow this to happen. I agree there is no more Democratic party as we knew it, it is now the ‘Obama party’ and he would have it no other way. But this is not 1933 Germany, we are not used to this kind of grandiosity in political leaders, Americans may love personality and celebrity but they don’t like over the top antics in their politics. So perhaps this stadium idea may be the best thing yet, when the people get a load of such craziness they’ll see him for the magalomaniac he is.
I don’t get this claim that Obama takes on others’ image. It seems, well, not backed by any evidence whatsoever.
It is as my physics professor always said, it needs no proof, it is intuitively obvious to the most casual of observer.
Doesn’t sound like the physics professors I know.
And why should it sound like the professor you know? Is there only one physics professor in the US? Your talking points are getting weak.
That would be Prof. Irwin Corey, right?
cathnealon , great comments.
One would have to be very dumb or deluded to not understand BO’s allusions and imitations of King, Kennedy and Reagan, especially since he personally compares himself to them.
It’s shameful and terrifying that the DNC/BO are actively playing on people’s vulnerabilities for their personal agendas. And even more terrifying that people are so easily manipulated and seduced.
It is a cult.
“believe” is a perfect example of cult mentality.
Yet you provide not a single example.
It’s cultists who don’t need evidence to support their belief structures.
She did provide an example….You ya ding dong.
Sometimes its like talking to a parrot.
January 07, 2008
HRC:
June 27, 2005
Look up: Deval Patrick and David Axelrod. You will see Obama’s speeches were first made by Patrick before Obama said the exact same things.
See Reno Gazette-Journal for Obama comparing himself to Reagan.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/01/17/barack_obama_im_the_new_reagan
The above is a video link.
March 15, 2008
Obama invokes RFK in distancing self from pastor
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_invokes_rfk_in_distancin.html
3-15-2008
Barack Obama’s campaign started making the claim explicitly itself: meet BHO, the new JFK.
Courtesy: Washington Post “The Trail”
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_invokes_rfk_in_distancin.html
Atta way, Kelly. Give her the “facts.”
http://larouchepac.com/news/2008/06/15/soross-new-hostile-takeover-democratic-party.html
Karl Rove Sen. Barack Obama Sen. Hillary Clinton
Bamboozling the American electorate again
Strategy has involved G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Clinton, marketing newcomer Obama, stripping battleground delegates, threatening violence at the convention, and (if necessary) declaring martial law to prevent November’s general election. Meanwhile, revelations about the Illinois senator’s ties to Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko and two Iraqi agents are downplayed by the press. For their part, Democratic Party leaders have circumvented the official nominating process, declaring Obama the nominee by breaking their own rules and allowing superdelegates to “vote” before the convention.
Revised and updated July 6, 2008
(Note: Printing out in PDF format is recommended.)
Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it’s curious that many within both the Democratic and Republican parties have ignored the actual elephant in the room in 2008. That would be Karl Rove, the G.O.P.’s longtime political strategist and a man many politicos still refer to as “The Architect”. Accused of rigging the two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe he’s gone off to write op-eds and armchair quarterback this year’s coverage for Fox News Channel.
Not so. According to an article in Time magazine last November, Republicans were organized in several states to throw their weight behind frontrunner Senator Hillary Clinton’s principle rival for the Democratic nomination, Senator Barack Obama. While Rove’s name isn’t mentioned in the story, several former fundraisers and strategists for President Bush are identified. With the help of Wall Street investment firms, these gentlemen helped flush Obama’s coffers with cash early on in the race, something the conservative deep pockets had not done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the freshman senator achieved a remarkable feat, given he only first appeared on the national scene in 2004. In fact, the vast majority of Americans did not even hear of him until 2006.
To expedite the Rove strategy, a website and discussion forum called Republicans for Obama formed in 2006. The executive director of New Hampshire’s Republican Party, Stephen DeMaura, later established “Stop Hillary Clinton (One Million Strong AGAINST Hillary)” on Facebook. At the same time, the Obama camp launched its own initiative targeted at Republican primary voters called “Be a Democrat For a Day”. The campaign included a video that was circulated in Florida, Nevada, Vermont and elsewhere explaining the process of switching parties for the election. In addition, many states nowadays hold open primaries, allowing citizens to vote for any candidate, regardless of their party affiliation. In Nebraska, the mayor of Omaha publicly rallied Republicans and Independents to caucus for Obama on February 9th. In Pennsylvania, Time reported on March 19th that Obama was running radio ads in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia asking Republicans to register as Democrats and then vote for him in the state’s April 22nd primary.
The tactic, called crossover voting, allowed Obama to open up an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates. Republicans for Obama was certainly not bashful in making its case in an email appeal linked to its home page before the March 4th contests. “Since Texas has an open primary,” the appeal read, “Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama… Just think, no more Clintons in the White House.” Then there was Iowa, which held the nation’s first caucus on January 3rd. Here G.O.P. winner Mike Huckabee received just half as many votes as Clinton, who finished third behind Obama and John Edwards.
Of the 17 states holding open primaries, Obama won 13 of them. And an analysis of the caucus results to date shows that a disproportionate sum of delegates has been awarded to Obama, apparently by design of the Democratic National Committee. Thousands of irregularities and formal complaints of cheating have yet to be investigated by the the DNC. Oddly, red states – i.e. those who normally vote Republican in the general election – have been allowed to exercise undue influence on the process, a quirk that dovetailed nicely with G.O.P. strategy to knock Clinton out of the running before November. Obama’s 13,700 vote margin in the Nebraska caucus, for instance, resutled in a net gain of 8 pledged delegates, whereas Clinton accumulated only 9 more delegates from her whopping 204,000 vote victory in Ohio’s primary. In Texas, which holds both a primary and caucus, Obama gained 5 more pledged delegates than Clinton, despite the fact that she won the primary by a 100,000 vote margin. (Her campaign received over 2,000 complaints from supporters who were deterred from voting or told their caucus had been cancelled.) And although Clinton won the Nevada caucus, the Obama camp managed to finagle more pledged delegates at the state convention held after the vote.
Such discrepancies certainly bring into context what Time meant when it titled its November story “Obama’s red state appeal.” Even with the full compliment of election-scamming tools available to them – phone bank sabotage, fake polling data, swiftboating, waitlisting, electronic voting equipment, Norman Hsu, etc. – G.O.P. operatives would be hard pressed to eclipse Clinton in a general election. By the end of 2007, she held a commanding lead in public opinion polls and boasted a large campaign war chest of her own. Thus, all the vote-rigging tricks known to man wouldn’t make much difference if the contest in November weren’t close, and in her case, it likely wouldn’t be. Several influential Republicans admitted as much in a February 11th story for Politico. At the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, also held in February, a single banner strung over the exhibits hall seemed to encapsulate the strategy of the Republican Party for the 2008 primaries . It read “Anybody but Hillary”.
On June 4th, that sentiment became reality when Clinton acquiesced to pressure her own party and announced she would both supsend her campaign and endorse Obama. Her supporters angrily denounced the strong-arm tactics, claiming the DNC was conspiring with the Obama campaign to subvert the nominating process. The New York senator had surged towards the end of the primary season, winning 9 out of 13 states, and looked to have a real chance of victory at the convention in Denver. By contrast, Obama’s support was teetering in the wake of revelations about his long relationship with Pastor Jeremiah Wright of Trinity Church, as well as his connection to convicted Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko and the Abramoff-like circle of influence peddlers that seemed to surround the Illinois senator.
Yet the issue of electability appeared to be the last thing on the minds of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and other Democratic Party leaders. Citing the need for unity, DNC Chairman Dean declared Obama the official nominee on June 3rd based on the input of superdelegates, a group of nearly 800 elected leaders and party officials who normally don’t vote until the convention. (That’s why they’re called delegates.) Beginning on June 4th, the Obama campaign assumed control over the party apparatus and treasury, and much to the chagrin of Clinton activists, began contacting her donors for contributions and other support.
For the first time in U.S. history, a winning candidate had been forced out of the race by means other than a bullet to the head.
Where is this from? It mentions a pdf, but you’ve supplied no link.
I saw that article at RCP
And there’s entire pathetic sections like this:
He won a lot of delegates because he won those states big and could figure out the pre-existing rules about winning in congressional districts. Now, that’s scary — he knew that he has to figure out how to win, given the rules.
BTW, the part on Rove is just made up BS, like a lot on NQ.
The shit made up on NQ comes from you believe.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
Follow the links.
They’re interesting.
There would probably be words in it too big for you to understand.
Yes I got fired, but I’ll keep the fight. I have my own research and I’ll write the posts myself.
Hi faux-Believe. Are you going to post some some racially charged statements under my screen name again?
Stop using my name.
No, you stop.
Doesn’t matter which is which, both of you are drunks and seriously mentally impaired.
Those pesky alternate identities of yours are going to war with each other? Damn!
Which one of you has the lovely house with a deck??
Yeah, and baked that wonderful pie!
Her
Ever hear of the movie Sybil?
We have something that the people who saw through Hitler didn’t have – the Internet. It bands millions of us together. It gives us power. We just have to figure out how to use it before it is too late.
Moving the speech to the stadium is huge – a real power grabber. It protects Obama from losing the nomination, and I think it is very serious. It’s too bad we can’t make a suggestion posted earlier happen – we get all the tickets. It would thwart his plans and protection but we aren’t organized enough to do it.
Any suggestions?
Why do you think the UN, with the backing of the EU, was trying to wrest control of the root servers that resolve every DNS on the internet away from ICAAN?
You make a very good point. When Hitler grabbed power, the Germans were isolated. This is a different world. The only people who can’t seem to grasp that are crooks and politicians. Nothing stays secret anymore. Somebody somewhere is recording, filming or watching. We have instant world wide communication and we also know and remember mr Hitler and how he got power.
If there really are any Jewish people supporting bo, I’m embarrassed for them. Never again, remember?
Obama’s bubble could burst, just like the defunct housing debacle.
Obama was hand picked by the Republicnas to run against their weak candidate because they knew that was the only way they would win. If obama is the nominee we will lose in November. There is way too much dirt on him that will come out in the Fall.
A scintilla of evidence that “Obama was hand picked by the Republicans”? No, just as I thought.
And you folks say Obama folks are part of a cult?
“About Republicans for Obama
Republicans for Obama is a grassroots organization of proud party members who all share one important trait— we are Americans first and Republicans second. (Even if it is a close second.) Founded in late 2006 as part of the nationwide effort to encourage Senator Obama to run for the Presidency, our volunteer-run, grassroots group now includes over 2000 registered members from across the nation.”
http://www.republicansforobama.org/
Like I said, follow the links, they’re interesting.
George Soros wants McCain not Obama. Wake up fools and smell the coffee before it’s too late.
Why would Soros want McCain? He’s a Democrat.
And what is it about you folks and Soros? That’s what the 2004 right blogosphere got frothed up about.
THere have been pix showing Soros with Obama at campaign rallies during the primaries.
These people are not Democrats. Never were.
Of course, Soros’s thug Kos is now turning on Obama.
Kos wrote in his critical piece on Obama and FISA, “I hope he wins big.” If that’s turning on him, well, I sure would like to see how he can express support.
You’re right , I am sorry.
You left out the part I quoted.
Don’t reply to my posts until you resolve your multi-personality disorder.
A historical day for America will happen in the Senate tomorrow.
They will give amnesty to a President that committed over 30 felonies and make it legal to spy on all Americans without a warrant.
The telcos paid millions in legal bribes to trash the 4th amendment.
We have two corrupt Senators supporting this travesty of justice running for President.
We are screwed 08.
And Clinton supports it, too.
If she does why shouldn’t she? Obama does and you don’t have a problem with that.
A brief reminder: the type of Obama movement
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_R6gcbC9Hz4
Look up Soros contributions. He donates to all Democrats except one Republican, John McCain. A Republican client of mine told me what they were planning last summer. They did not want to run against Hillary because she could actually beat McCain.
I wonder if Hillary will say something like this again at the historic Democratic convention this year when she speaks on behalf of our next president:
“Senator McCain and the Republicans may have hoped that we wouldn’t join forces like this. They may have wished that we wouldn’t stand united to fight this battle with everything we’ve got.
But I’ve got news for them: We are one party; we are one America; and we are not going to rest until we take back our country and put it once again on the path to peace, prosperity, and progress in the 21st century.”
shut up, that’s why!!!!!
-signed Republican liars for PUMA
Feed me lies…lots of lies
Signed Obama supporter
If we were really just Clinton “cultists,” we would be tripping over ourselves to join the Obamanation. The fact that we’re not seems to me to prove a point. Sometimes a principle is more important than allegience to any party, or any candidate.
And this movie: Clear and Present Danger
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_HX6vbhAYaU
Special credit to George Soros and Saul Alinsky
The comparison with Hitler does seem very far-fetched. Yet, I remember reading that ordinary Germans wept, fainted and were swept away by Hitler’s words and promises. Remind you of anyone? I wasn’t around then but I’ve seen film footage. I don’t speak German but the presumed magnetism that Hitler had over his audience is lost on me. To me, he looks frantic and over-the-top. And unattractive.
I feel the same way about Barack Obama. I’ve listened to these speeches. English is my native language. The man has an undeniable style in the delivery–the pausing, the pacing, the varied tenor of his voice. But substance-wise? I don’t get it.
If words really count then Barack Obama has figured out that the buzz words, the emotional button words count most. The word “change” for instance sounds like something everyone wants after 8 years of George Bush and his neo-con nightmare.
But should we not want, even demand to know what change, according to Obama means? And what will Obamaland would look like? These questions are not smears. It’s what any candidate owes the electorate if he/she expects to run for POTUS. All I hear are vague, ever-changing answers.
We cannot afford to be lulled by a lullabye, regardless of how comforting it may sound or from what political party it originates.
Obama’s shifting positions only cements my opinion: He is not The One. He is not even the Second or Third. He is a poseur, a pretender to the throne.
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I concur.
With a teleprompter he can be a very good speaker. He pales in comparison to great orators, however, such as Wole Soyinka, a Nobel Literature laureate.
Good evangelical preachers, like TD Jakes and Jeremiah Wright, are at least as captivating, though this is a matter of taste. There is no shortage of thespians that would kick his ass, given that much of what he says has been written for him, like most candidates. James Earl Jones comes to mind.
Logically how does a Chicago sleaze nobody take over the Democratic Party? I believe that ‘believe’ is right. We don’t have an email or a whistleblower that can link the Repubs to Obama but you know I also believe in ‘hope’ and ‘change.’ I have eternal hope that that will change and soon they’ll get what they asked for, evidence, facts, proof.
Well put, fif, and so true.
So you’re not saying Obama is LIKE hitler…just that he’s like HITLER. O.K. Got it.
Convention speeches are usually given to crowds of over 15,000 people. If people want to hear him speak and there is a venue for him to accomadate people, why shouldn’t he?
JFK spoke at the L.A. Coliseum. John Kerry held a rally in Ohio for tends of thousands of people. Are they like Hitler, too?
What should Obama do? Stand in front of a lime green backdrop and wheeze and guffaw uncontrollably? Would that make you feel better?
Seriously. You all are pathetic. I hear Obama wore a brown suit. What? Brown suit? Brown Shirt? See Just like Hitler!!!!!
He likes sugarfree mint gum. Why doesn’t he like regular gum? Sugar reminds him of crack and crack reminds him of the time he had gay sex in the back of a limo with some stranger. Some disbarred kilt wearing lawyer told me so. For true!!!!
Just vote for McCain, sign up to Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran and shut the hell up already.
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When a person is cursed with a small processor, like ummm, and has not read earlier posts, such as the one that showed parallels between both the rise of Obama and Hitler, based on Hitler’s autobiography by John Toland (1976), then, if he has not received adequate intellectual training, he might make uneducated, arrogant outbursts like the one above.
He is right to note that the parallels don’t quite cash out, but he is not right because he knows this by studying the issue. His ease in telling others to STHU, when he is intellectual authority is almost non-existent, tells us something about his quality of character. Amusingly, it is something a brownshirt might do.
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What Barack Hussein Obama should do is wait until the Democratic Party has voted on a nominee before deciding he will be giving an acceptance speech.
I think you are dead on right, ummm. I will vote for McCain. Thanks for helping me off of the fence.
Believe…
Watch this video immediatly.
I worry for you my pimply faced son…
Baaaarack Obama Cult – False prophet misleading his sheep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_eE21r8r4
Baaaa Baaaa believe is a Obamacan……….LMAO
Obama fills stadiums on the strength of his personality alone.
Thank God he’s at least pretty ( well the ears are a stretch).
Are you kidding? He’s butt ugly.
And that’s the issue. Read the post.
And therein lies your confusion.
#1 He has no personality
#2 He does not fill stadiums, unless he gives out free concert tix
#3 This is a presidential election (ever heard of one of those?) not American Idol
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
You guys just sound silly now. Equating a speech in a big stadium with slaughtering 6 million Jews. Way to trivialize one of the lowest points in human history. Despite what the couple thousand hold-outs believe, Obama’s candidacy IS historic and epic and the majority of Americans will be moved to see him make that speech.
You poor deluded fool. The average IQ in this country is 90–I have to keep reminding myself of that point when I hear Obama’s Volksgemeinschaft .
And it is estimated that 44 million people in America are illiterate. That is so shocking to me.
Ah, another kid that slept through history class.
His candidacy is not historic to me. He would be the 1st biracial President. The only AA relatives Obama has are the little girls he sired.
That business about having one drop of black blood makes you black is a hold over from a racist/slave driven culture. I personally don’t buy into it and neither do many biracial offspring.
Obama is an opportunist. He exploited a non-existent connection to the black community, relied on his name, his wife’s skin color and the fact that blacks are so alienated due to systemic racism, which resulted in poverty and poor education across generations.
Most blacks are simply voting their desperate hearts. The ones, like me, who have taken the time to background check this fraud, have come to the same conclusion I have: WE HAVE BEEN PLAYED! BIG TIME!!!
So when Obama makes his speech in a stadium, no less, shamelessly co-opting the greatness of MLK, who actually stood for SOMETHING, I will not be watching.
On Election Day, I will vote for John McCain. Upon leaving the polling place, I will walk to a mailbox and mail my Registration Form to the Election Board. I wll be unafilliated, but plan to cast my vote for McCain as a Democrat. If Hillary’s name is not called at the Convention, I will vote straight Republican.
The Democratic Party and Obama made a mockery of African Americans. They cherrypicked the most unqualified, inexperienced man of color they could find and unfortunately many AAs have been head-faked.
When AAs do wake up to the fact that they’ve been had, it’s really going to be ugly in America.
In my opinion, he will drop real AAs faster than oj simpson did.
We should do a poll.
Who will Obama do the best impression of at the stadium?
A. JFK
B. MLK
C. Hitler
D. empty suit
E. all of the above
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Obama is such a thug. People are going to be so mad at themselves for being sucked in by this low life.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/hitler-rally-delegate-hostages-wannabe-jfk-speech-2/
Bill and Hillary support Obama because they are polictical prisioners! I can’t stand Obama because he talked so badly about a two term president. No one does that if they have any class or any brains.
Hey Larse !!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIR4nTAZaY
Again, just pure silliness. An ENTIRE industry was built on Bush-bashing, another “two term president.” Hillary gave as good as she got. The transformation of Hillary Clinton into a working class folk hero slash political prisoner is perhaps the most disturbing yet laughable side effect of this whole spectacle. The Clintons have HARDLY been suppressed by the establishment; they ARE the establishment!
Insulting our political acumen by calling our sound arguments “silly” just creates more PUMAs.
Obama won the caucuses because of his thugs who bullied voters.
The lead up to the news in Pueblo, CO tonight is that Barack Obama is proposing what would be an illegal lottery in Colorado offering a chance for one of ten “backstage passes” to meet Obama at Invesco in exchange for donations.
Can’t do that in Colorado.
Larry Sinclair was the first to report this.
See his blog entry:
I received the most interesting of emails from the Obama Campaign this afternoon. It seems the Obama Campaign and the DNC are holding what could be considered an ILLEGAL RAFFLE in soliciting donations to the the Obama Campaign. Below is the portion of the email that raises some serious legal questions
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/obama-dnc-raffle-expense-paid-trip-for-donations/#comments
They arrested some guy that tried to sell his house that way.
On a PBS program last night about WWII, a revisionist history by Nial Ferguson, there was vintage footage of Mao Tse Tung, and it was startling in that it used the radiating rays around his head like some of the Obama posters. Except in the WWII era film, the radiating rays flashed around his head somewhat psychadelically.
But it was so similar it was…well…evocative. And scary.
“Triumph of the Will” is one of the best (and scariest) propaganda film of all time. It’s a must watch.
Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TnBs8KoHfkk
Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nztVERym1ho (listen to the speech carefully)
Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vEmLjc_lJuU
Part 4: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1HDodNbO0Kc
I wonder how many times Barry has watched this.
There was a thread here or at Liberal Rapture about the Obama Youth. It was scary then and it is scary now, trying to indoctrinate preteen and early teens to exert influence upon their parents and become loyal followers as they age.
Obama’s trying to create a log of smoke because he is an empty suit.
This whole thing could backfire, as mobs of people, especially Obama people, can be pretty scary.
This guy’s ego is as big as that stadium. The Democratic Party really should take a hard look at itself. It is becoming just as classless and creepy as Obama.
Not only is he an empty suit, but he somehow makes the suits he’s wearing look cheap.
Very interesting post, Medusa. The ability of some leaders to bring their followers to ecstatic levels of emotion is truly frightening.
Looks like the Obamanistas will be gathering for a meeting of the Obamanation at Invesco Field. Maybe if the followers had donated some money to improve the housing projects in Obama’s district in Chicago, some kids might be alive and have a future. But no way, the managers of government contracts and benefactors of our tax money largesse will be celebrating with their corporate buddies. Meanwhile, kids in the projects, and states such as West Virginia, Kentucky, etc. can dry up and blow away. You don’t have money for the coliseum festivities, you are a mere serf and not worthy of a visit from the Precious Presumptive. The DNC revels in money and corruption; the people be damned.
Just because Obama co-opts anniversaries of other’s great events in history like MLK’s “I have a dream speech” and JFK’s accepting the nomination in a stadium of supporters doesn’t make him a great leader. It makes him shallow and a phoney because he hasn’t earned the greatness or done the work of these great men in history. He just wants to be compared to them. He’s all marketing and propaganda. The scheduling of the speech and convention on the anniversary of MLK’s memory truly demonstrates to me that the DNC fix for Obama has been in the tank for a long time. Long before anybody cast a vote.
Yes he is my leader and I will not let your jealousy stop me. He has done more for my soul than anyone else has. I trust him to solve the problems of the world.