Comments on: The Adulation of a Leader: a Cautionary Tale http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:43:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: PKJayne http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438899 PKJayne Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:02:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438899 <blockquote>If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, <strong>meet Barack backstage</strong>, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.</blockquote>

If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.

]]> By: BoboBolinsky http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438585 BoboBolinsky Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:57:11 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438585 Yes he is my leader and I will not let your jealousy stop me. He has done more for my soul than anyone else has. I trust him to solve the problems of the world. Yes he is my leader and I will not let your jealousy stop me. He has done more for my soul than anyone else has. I trust him to solve the problems of the world.

]]> By: Carolyn Mann http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438554 Carolyn Mann Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:40:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438554 I wish there had been protests in my little part of California (the central part). I would have joined the protest. If there were any, though, the local media ignored them, hence no one knew they were going on. My real issue now is the idea of bailing on a mess that this country has created. If Bush didn't deserve impeachment over this debacle, no one will ever deserve impeachment. But then, Queen Pelosi took that off the table. I wish there had been protests in my little part of California (the central part). I would have joined the protest. If there were any, though, the local media ignored them, hence no one knew they were going on.

My real issue now is the idea of bailing on a mess that this country has created. If Bush didn’t deserve impeachment over this debacle, no one will ever deserve impeachment. But then, Queen Pelosi took that off the table.

]]> By: Carolyn Mann http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438507 Carolyn Mann Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:25:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438507 I guess I've been watching too much Sex in the City. I thought that was called spunk, as in funky spunk. Thanks for the vocab lesson -- now I'm laughing. I guess I’ve been watching too much Sex in the City. I thought that was called spunk, as in funky spunk. Thanks for the vocab lesson — now I’m laughing.

]]> By: glennmcgahhee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438142 glennmcgahhee Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:08:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438142 Just because Obama co-opts anniversaries of other's great events in history like MLK's "I have a dream speech" and JFK's accepting the nomination in a stadium of supporters doesn't make him a great leader. It makes him shallow and a phoney because he hasn't earned the greatness or done the work of these great men in history. He just wants to be compared to them. He's all marketing and propaganda. The scheduling of the speech and convention on the anniversary of MLK's memory truly demonstrates to me that the DNC fix for Obama has been in the tank for a long time. Long before anybody cast a vote. Just because Obama co-opts anniversaries of other’s great events in history like MLK’s “I have a dream speech” and JFK’s accepting the nomination in a stadium of supporters doesn’t make him a great leader. It makes him shallow and a phoney because he hasn’t earned the greatness or done the work of these great men in history. He just wants to be compared to them. He’s all marketing and propaganda. The scheduling of the speech and convention on the anniversary of MLK’s memory truly demonstrates to me that the DNC fix for Obama has been in the tank for a long time. Long before anybody cast a vote.

]]> By: Miss H http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438036 Miss H Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:13:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-438036 Looks like the Obamanistas will be gathering for a meeting of the Obamanation at Invesco Field. Maybe if the followers had donated some money to improve the housing projects in Obama's district in Chicago, some kids might be alive and have a future. But no way, the managers of government contracts and benefactors of our tax money largesse will be celebrating with their corporate buddies. Meanwhile, kids in the projects, and states such as West Virginia, Kentucky, etc. can dry up and blow away. You don't have money for the coliseum festivities, you are a mere serf and not worthy of a visit from the Precious Presumptive. The DNC revels in money and corruption; the people be damned. Looks like the Obamanistas will be gathering for a meeting of the Obamanation at Invesco Field. Maybe if the followers had donated some money to improve the housing projects in Obama’s district in Chicago, some kids might be alive and have a future. But no way, the managers of government contracts and benefactors of our tax money largesse will be celebrating with their corporate buddies. Meanwhile, kids in the projects, and states such as West Virginia, Kentucky, etc. can dry up and blow away. You don’t have money for the coliseum festivities, you are a mere serf and not worthy of a visit from the Precious Presumptive. The DNC revels in money and corruption; the people be damned.

]]> By: tzada http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437914 tzada Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:23:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437914 Oh yes indeed. I also think Soro's is behind a lot of the economic woes both here and abroad. Many suprer rich, try for super power as well. Oh yes indeed. I also think Soro’s is behind a lot of the economic woes both here and abroad. Many suprer rich, try for super power as well.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437826 elise Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:37:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437826 Carolyn, there were protests held in large cities across the country and even in the moderate sized city where I live although the number here wasn't large. This is a military town. The thing is, my husband and I talked about it many times while Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others were beating the drums and we hoped until the very last minute it was just talk and maneuvering. I guess we believed they would not actually do anything without the UN. If things had gone as they planned and it really was Mission Accomplished, many Americans wouldn't have protested at all. Do you think we have learned the lessons? In one generation, we forgot Vietnam. There are not many who agree with Charlie Rangle about reinstating the draft, but it was conscription which finally forced an end to that war. I am a pacifist and a Buddhist, but if winning the war is the only way to end the killing, I am happy progress has been made. I do believe the majority of protesters to the invasion of Iraq were the "old hippies" the Obama people have dismissed as irrelevant. Just a bunch of us old coalition Democrats who remembered Vietnam. And, BTW, I have never believed for one moment Barack Obama did anything other than use the discontent for political purposes. Carolyn, there were protests held in large cities across the country and even in the moderate sized city where I live although the number here wasn’t large. This is a military town. The thing is, my husband and I talked about it many times while Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others were beating the drums and we hoped until the very last minute it was just talk and maneuvering. I guess we believed they would not actually do anything without the UN. If things had gone as they planned and it really was Mission Accomplished, many Americans wouldn’t have protested at all. Do you think we have learned the lessons? In one generation, we forgot Vietnam. There are not many who agree with Charlie Rangle about reinstating the draft, but it was conscription which finally forced an end to that war. I am a pacifist and a Buddhist, but if winning the war is the only way to end the killing, I am happy progress has been made. I do believe the majority of protesters to the invasion of Iraq were the “old hippies” the Obama people have dismissed as irrelevant. Just a bunch of us old coalition Democrats who remembered Vietnam. And, BTW, I have never believed for one moment Barack Obama did anything other than use the discontent for political purposes.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437717 elise Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:54:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437717 If this is a true cult, and it has all the elements, they will not be moved by the political outcome and will be very angry. Donna Brazil mentioned three distinct groups they have pulled into their "New Coalition". Younger (college age young adults), more urban (African Americans) and more suburban (wealthy liberals). The wealthy liberals don't fit the personalities of those who join cults, but young adults and African Americans do. Young people are more invested in personalities and African Americans feel disenfranchised and need to believe a Black man could make a difference in their lives. Cult members have to suspend logic so they will do anything they can to elect Obama. If it is not dangerous in the way of Hitler, it is still dangerous. There is no happy ending here for Democrats. Hillary is by far the most qualified person, but the delegates may be so intimidated, their decisions may be based on actual fear. I have been concerned about her safety for months and the reality is something no one wants to contemplate. It is a real danger to our country to have some who seem capable of violence forcing the selection of Democratic nominee and even the presidential election itself. If this is a true cult, and it has all the elements, they will not be moved by the political outcome and will be very angry. Donna Brazil mentioned three distinct groups they have pulled into their “New Coalition”. Younger (college age young adults), more urban (African Americans) and more suburban (wealthy liberals). The wealthy liberals don’t fit the personalities of those who join cults, but young adults and African Americans do. Young people are more invested in personalities and African Americans feel disenfranchised and need to believe a Black man could make a difference in their lives. Cult members have to suspend logic so they will do anything they can to elect Obama. If it is not dangerous in the way of Hitler, it is still dangerous. There is no happy ending here for Democrats. Hillary is by far the most qualified person, but the delegates may be so intimidated, their decisions may be based on actual fear. I have been concerned about her safety for months and the reality is something no one wants to contemplate. It is a real danger to our country to have some who seem capable of violence forcing the selection of Democratic nominee and even the presidential election itself.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437671 elise Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:31:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437671 Hitler had Wagner and Obama has Rap. Hitler had Wagner and Obama has Rap.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437636 elise Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:17:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437636 I did too and the only thing to worry about was getting busted for pot. But, this is 2008, it has been a nasty campaign, the Black Panthers are trying to make their comeback in Denver, Code Pink is threatening to disrupt the Convention, Obama supporters are agressive and the Denver police are stretched just covering the Pepsi Convention Center. This is a really stupid idea. His narcissim and his campaign's arrogance WILL be blammed if violence errupts and someone gets hurt. I did too and the only thing to worry about was getting busted for pot. But, this is 2008, it has been a nasty campaign, the Black Panthers are trying to make their comeback in Denver, Code Pink is threatening to disrupt the Convention, Obama supporters are agressive and the Denver police are stretched just covering the Pepsi Convention Center.

This is a really stupid idea. His narcissim and his campaign’s arrogance WILL be blammed if violence errupts and someone gets hurt.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437597 elise Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:02:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437597 It is odd how little is known about Soros and how few people are even aware of his involvement in Obama's campaign. I asked my husband a few months ago if he knew how Soros made his money and he had just a vague idea about him dealing in currency. He thought he bought on a depressed market and sold when it became stable again. I saw him on cspan once and he was introduced as a financier and philanthropist, but his political actvism wasn't mentioned. Who is he and what is his interest in American politics? It is odd how little is known about Soros and how few people are even aware of his involvement in Obama’s campaign. I asked my husband a few months ago if he knew how Soros made his money and he had just a vague idea about him dealing in currency. He thought he bought on a depressed market and sold when it became stable again.

I saw him on cspan once and he was introduced as a financier and philanthropist, but his political actvism wasn’t mentioned. Who is he and what is his interest in American politics?

]]> By: Medusa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437591 Medusa Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:59:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437591 I didn't know it was planned but makes sense. No doubt the jig was up at least year ago, if not before. I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC hadn't decided on Backtrack in 2004, when he was chosen to give the speech. I didn’t know it was planned but makes sense. No doubt the jig was up at least year ago, if not before. I wouldn’t be surprised if the DNC hadn’t decided on Backtrack in 2004, when he was chosen to give the speech.

]]> By: sic721 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437570 sic721 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:55:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437570 All these comparisons between Obama and Hitler, here's a difference, Hitler wasn't even born in the country he wanted to rule!! Oh, wait a minute......my bad. OT, anyone else notice the DNC convention was planned over a year ago to have the last day fall on the MLK speech anniversary? Coincidence? Or more proof of Backtrack being 'chosen' in advance. All these comparisons between Obama and Hitler,
here’s a difference, Hitler wasn’t even born in the
country he wanted to rule!!
Oh, wait a minute……my bad.

OT, anyone else notice the DNC convention was
planned over a year ago to have the last day
fall on the MLK speech anniversary?
Coincidence?
Or more proof of Backtrack being ‘chosen’ in advance.

]]> By: Medusa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437488 Medusa Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:25:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/08/the-adulation-of-a-leader-a-cautionary-tale/#comment-437488 well put, teak. And people who support him are even more foolish well put, teak. And people who support him are even more foolish

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