Hillary’s Holdouts, and a Message to Obama Supporters
By SusanUnPC on July 9, 2008 at 9:59 AM in Barack Obama, Bush Faith-Based Programs, Current Affairs, Democratic Nomination, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, Huffington Post, MoveOn.org, Social Security
Bob Ostertag at Huffington Post is urging Obama donors “who are angry about his about-face on the upcoming FISA legislation” to donate instead this month to Russ Feingold’s senate reelection. Feingold, Ostertag says, “is carrying on the fight that Obama walked away from.” Mr. Ostertag notices a “spike” in donations to Feingold. So far, so good.
Then Ostertag warns his readers away from the “PUMA movement” because it “may indeed be a Republican troll operation.” No, Mr. Ostertag. Granted, there are a few groups out of HUNDREDS in the Just Say No Deal coalition that are pro-McCain, but that occurs with any large coalition and we here at No Quarter, as do most, strongly disagree with the few’s emphasis solely on McCain. We are pro-Hillary.
However, some of us are “sticking it to” the Democratic party at the moment for its ill-advised recent behavior, just as YOU are doing to Obama by withholding donations. You’re employing a tactic. So are we.
Frankly, I think you know that too, Mr. Ostertag, and perhaps you are worried that Obama’s supporters may take a look at JustSayNoDeal.com.
We support Hillary Clinton, who voted to protect MoveOn’s right to speech against Sen. John Cornyn’s amendment while Obama, although he was on site, hid away and didn’t vote. The irony: MoveOn has never been a friend to Sen. Clinton and has embraced Obama, who didn’t have Sen. Clinton’s courage to stand up for his own benefactors.
We support Hillary Clinton who has the endorsement of over 30 flag officers who want to get out of Iraq just as badly as you, but who know Hillary has the REAL knowledge of military and foreign affairs to carry it off, and who can speak coherently without having to hold two press conferences within two hours to clarify a clarification.
We support Hillary Clinton because she is for truly universal health care, the protection of Social Security, and saving Medicare (currently under frightening assault), while Mr. Obama’s advisers are pro-partial privatization. And Mr. Obama?
Mr. Obama seems more interested in wooing the religious right with an expansion of Bush’s faith-based initiatives rather than strengthening our existing, essential federal safety nets. I found a passionate statement at Sen. Clinton’s senate site on the pending cuts to Medicare — which have alarmed every health care provider across our nation — but not one word at Mr. Obama’s senate or campaign sites. We support Hillary because she knows much more, but also because she shows her convictions. Update: I note that Sen. McCain is being pressured by physicians’ groups to break the Republican minority stranglehold on the Medicare cuts, which will dramatically affect health care for senior citizens, who are reliable voters. (The Hill has a detailed article.)
Below, a video clip from last night’s CNN AC360 on “Hillary’s Holdouts”:
So, beyond those poll numbers, there’s the cash factor. Clinton supporters, from rank-and-file Democrats to major donors, don’t seem to be ponying up the money that the Obama campaign had hoped to see.
Up close tonight, why they’re holding out. Here’s 360’s Joe Johns.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JOE JOHNS, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, the picture of Democratic unity, they are scheduled for three fund-raisers together in New York this week. But when it comes to campaign cash, this political kumbaya might have its limits.
Some fund-raisers for Hillary Clinton are pressuring the Obama campaign to honor her policy positions and her campaign debt. They want her name placed in nomination at the Democratic Convention. And they are balking at writing checks for Obama.
LYNN FORESTER, MAJOR CLINTON DONOR: I certainly know there are lots of people who are withholding their money.
JOHNS: Businesswoman Lynn Forester launched a Web site bringing Clinton supporters together to pressure Obama. She is one of the so- called HillRaisers, who brought in at least $100,000 each to Clinton. She hasn’t given money to Obama, and hasn’t decided whether she will.
FORESTER: This is a hard decision for me personally, because, frankly, I don’t like him. I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.
JOHNS (on camera): It’s hard to say how many big donors might balk when it comes to Obama. Some political observers expect gushers of money by Election Day. But, if you were looking for early leading indicators that most of Clinton’s deep-pocketed supporters are throwing open their wallets for the presumptive nominee, we’re not seeing them.
(voice-over): The Center for Responsive Politics and “The Wall Street Journal” crunched the numbers from May, when Obama was wrapping up the primary. About 115 people who donated at least $1,000 to Senator Clinton were making their first big donations to Obama.
But here’s the twist. Roughly the same number of former Clinton donors were making large donations to John McCain.
(on camera): So, what’s the problem? Some say Obama is shifting positions. Some say Hillary Clinton should get a large role in both the convention and the fall campaign. And some of those die-hard Clinton supporters say they are angry because of the perceived sexism in the coverage of their candidate.
REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D), FLORIDA: So we need to address that issue, but we need to not take it out on Barack Obama, because it was not his fault.
JOHNS (voice-over): Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida spent the last two days in New York, talking to disaffected Clinton supporters. She says the answer is simple.
SCHULTZ: It’s not unexpected that they count just automatically shift over to Obama, because they’re not the typical Democratic supporters that just automatically shift over. They need to be wooed. They need to be, you know — they need to be, um, won over.
JOHNS (on camera): Barack Obama needs to show them some love?
SCHULTZ: He does.
JOHNS (voice-over): The Obama campaign says it fully expects the Hill-raisers to come around and won’t comment on the charges of sexism in the primary race. Needless to say, John McCain isn’t exactly cooling his heels here. He’s trying to lure Clinton supporters into his camp. He needs all the help he can get.
Joe Johns, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NOW, the statement from Sen. Clinton’s senate Web site on the Medicare cloture vote. There is no statement from Sen. Obama’s senate or campaign site.
June 27, 2008
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Vote on the Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act
WASHINGTON, DC—Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton today issued the following statement on the failure of the Senate to pass a Medicare bill that would have stopped a cut in payments to physicians and provided other improvements to Medicare:
“Once again, Senate Republicans have stood in the way of improving health care for some of our nation’s most vulnerable citizens. The bill blocked last night would not only have prevented a 10.6 percent cut in payments to physicians who care for the 44 million seniors and people with disabilities on Medicare, but also would have made improvements in preventive care and for low-income beneficiaries. The bill also contained important provisions that I have long championed to advance electronic prescribing and our ability to measure the quality of care that patients receive. As the Senate begins its efforts to ensure that every American has access to high quality, affordable health care, it is critical that Republicans put politics aside to make the necessary improvements in the healthcare system. Passage of this Medicare legislation is an important first step and one that I hope my colleagues will support in the future.”
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Thanks Lynn! “I don’t like him.” or trust or believe he’s got any pertinent experience to be next POTUS if ever.
Finaly bit by bit, trickle by tricle the MSM will start hearing and reporting the ‘real deal’ about Obambi.
One thing I’ve learned over several years of blogging etc., is that we find out the news and truth about people and situations way long before the MSM picks things up.
And it gets quite frustrating waiting for them to catch up. IF they get the news at ALL.
I am more saddened by those networks that cherry pick the news and take out stuff that they think will be bad for their Messiah. It’s very 3rd Reich!
I can say with absolutely no hyperbole that it’s exactly like Nazi Germany.
How is Hillary voting on the FISA bill?
don’t know and no one seems to care what’s happening with Hillary anymore
they’ve crowned him already
we must have missed the coronation trumpets (snicker)
Is he bowing out and letting her resume her campaign? If not, this post is so much smoke up my skirt. And I HATE smoke … especially when combined with MIRRORS.
Hillary was gonna vote against last I heard.
I do not know what kind of kool-aid Sgt. Shultz is consuming but I do not want to be wooed, sweet talked, shown love!!!! I want the best candidate, Hillary Clinton. I do not want a crook, terrorist loving, Black Liberation Theology practicing, narcissist egomaniac.
Hillary 08 ! ! ! ! ! !
NOBAMA ever.
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Thanks for the plug. (no pun intended) Stay tuned to my site over the next few days. I’ll be revealing photographic evidence of a recent tryst with John McCain.
For instance?
yes totally agree with Lynn and NO WOOING PULLEEZE
GAWD ugh
unless WOOING means finding a frakkin CORE DEMOCRATIC VALUES SYSTEM which Uhhhbama DOES NTO HAVE, no amount of WOOING, will do it Debbie
give us Hillary, the only DEMOCRAT in the race still standing strong until they pulled the rug out from under her by threatening her supporters like Meeks, who PS THEY ARE RUNNING PEOPLE AGAINST ANYWAY!!
Where is Rangel on this?!
I was offended by the “wooing” comment too. Wooing might be also be called pandering and oblahma is very capable at that and its meaningless. No amount of wooing or pandering to Hillary supporters would ever make me trust him.
imustprotest — Wooing and screwing — thats all the Democratic Party has become. Why didn’t they vet Obama? When Obama played the race card and the sexist card why didn’t Dean say this will not be a part of our campaign. They were willing to allow Obama to say anything because he was the nominee they wanted. Now with almost a majority of Democrats saying they will never support him and a significant number going for McCain they will try to woo us as they screw us. I want to hear an apology from Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi to the effect that they used to Democratic Party to give us the nominee of their choice and that they are sorry because this guy can’t cut it. More chance of seeing Pigs fly however, as the Democratic base continues to flee for safe ground — who knows what the buzzwords will be next week. Hold on to your wallets — money is power.
He said he wouldn’t woo because he had to concentrate on McCain and he hasn’t wooed (at least kept his word on that one) so frankly it’s way too late to woo. Beside PUMAs are fierce and unwooable anyways, so he should just save his breath.
The MSM are paid not to get things. If they really wanted to understand reality, they would. but they pretend they know nothing. Like Charlie Rose, the Groundhog Day interviewer, who finally seems to “get it” then the next day he is the same old obtuse, dense, unknowing bloviator.
So now PUMA has been found out as a Rethug front - oh no you were not Pro McCain just Pro Hillary.
To those who will now go back and work to rid the White House of Rethugs, welcome back.
(I also agree with helping Feingold. Only half the Democrats backed FISA on the last vote - encourage more to stop it).
Just Say No Deal has many members who will vote for McCain.
It’s non-partisan.
And that’s as it should be.
I also agree that their 10% sounds pretty low. Guess we’ll find out on Election Day. Anyways July polls are historically misleading. Check out
http://www.gallup.com
for an interesting assessment of how so many July Leaders have lost most of the recent elections and Obama isn’t that far ahead (2% Gallup tracking, 5 or 6 in other polls) There also appears to be trouble on down the road for him.
That’s because Dems lose. LOL*
Rethugs?? After this primary season Demthugs too. That’s what PUMAS are fighting for you punk! You’re one of the Neodemthug party. We the REAL democrats are fighting for OUR party. WE WANT OUR PARTY BACK! I’m sick of these punk kid thugs wrecking the house, time to clean up. A little tough love for the spoiled kids, the adults are home now. And if that means MCCain, then so be it. Tough love punk demothugs, PUMA!
This is what you are going to see in fall, please DNC, let’s have Hillary before it’s late!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HX6vbhAYaU
You’re right. The people pick up on things way before the media. You’d think they’d get this already.
As usual, Senator Clinton is working and the “O” is snoozing! I hope some will really start to realize what a mistake they have made! It’s really sad that such a learned person received the treatment she did!
There are many many ‘holdouts’. Read the following comments from a non-political figure skating forums. We, PUMAs are growing stronger and stronger every day.
http://www.mkforum.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20774&page=55
the networks must be noticing because MOM just turned on the TV and I heard her surfing from ONE channel “blah, blah, blah Barack Obama, blah, blah”
to another news channel
“blah, blah, blah Barack Obama, blah, blah”
to another
“blah, blah, blah Barack Obama, blah, blah”
finally I hear it turn OFF! LOL
Neither of us can stand to hear his name any longer. I will barely even READ anything about him any more. Just can’t stand the nauseous feeling. It’s very similar to the feeling I get when I see Prick Cheney and his wife!
Rumsfeld had that effect on me as well.
lmao Rummy was at least entertaining with his “known unknowables” ????
what a FREAK!
Dick just gives me that immediate “I want to slap you” feeling!
same as Barky, Michelle, Dean, Roosevelt (rbc), Odonna, Keith, Jack (the list is growing) oh and I can’t forget CLAIRE!!! omg give her a drink and send her back to school and teach her and Caroline Kennedy that their KIDS SHOULD NOT BE MAKING ELECTION DECISIONS FOR THEM!!
I agree with “Hillaryfighter” completely. I will never vote for Obama. I believe the way to vote is a Split Ticket. McCain for Experience and character and a Democratic Congress for the issues. All signs seem to say that the House and Senate are going to be strongly Democratic. We can not afford a Rookie President and a Congress that will blindly follow him.
That is what I plan to do too.
Thanks for posting that, for it comes real close to summing up my own catalogue of reasons for rejecting Obama — though I would have moved Rezko up higher on the list. Obama’s 18-year relationship with Rezko, including the side-by-side, same day, property purchase by the two families — tells me that Obama is (forgive the plain language) crooked. That is easily my #1 reason for opposing him.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You’ve put into words my exact experience this campaign season. The more I watched Hillary take the crap they threw at her, the more I grew to respect her. She is formidable, and would have been our best president by far. Such a waste, and all due to the maneuverings of the DNC with their new puppet.
I am ashamed of this party, ashamed of this grand experiment called democracy.
This is what I experienced as well. I never liked Obama, wasn’t a Hillary fan, but I became one.
I will NEVER vote for Obama… and I’ve de-registered as a Democrat.
I’ve never been so disgusted in my life!!!
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As always THANK YOU!
Deb
I couldn’t have agreed with you more, child. You gave the same reason , I wouldn’t vote for him.
“…And finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year’s terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.
So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort…”
HRC-Oct 10, 2002
http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html
I dunno.
I think she meant it.
I also think that’s why she was so reluctant to apologize for it.
I kinda admire her for that.
Vote in poll. Obama = Flipper.
http://thepage.time.com/
Obama’s latest flip….he shouldn’t have allowed an interview with his daughters! He didn’t catch it quickly enough, suddenly cropped up…yikes…! Can we really afford to have someone as POTUS who can’t catch things quickly enough?
Obama states:
“I think that we got carried away in the moment,” Obama told NBC Wednesday morning. “We were having a birthday party and everybody was laughing, and suddenly this thing cropped up, and I didn’t catch it quickly enough and I was surprised by the attention it got.”
If a simple thing like access to his children is beyond his thought process, then access to state secrets should certainly be a problem for Barry.
Obama never did catch anything. His adviser was the one to point out how stupid it was. If Obama didn’t have poor judgement, he would have no judgemnet at all.
I sincerely doubt that “suddenly this thing cropped up”. This is another example of Obama bending the truth when he gets hit with a bad reaction to his words or (mis)deeds. It does seem as if some of his supporters are catching on. I went to the Orange Site last night and there was much gnashing of teeth and rending of clothing over the FISA bill. I read through an entire lengthy thread and there was only a smattering of lukewarm efforts to defend him.
“It’s not the birthday party I knew”
and this is not the dem primary we knew he just cropped up and did things his own way buying votes his associations etc..flip flopping…
What a fool showing your kids off on prime time TV!
We do not need him to get carried anyway anymore! ZIP ! and he says hes responsible..
Hell no way!
I guess hes so F***ing blase these Hollywood people just come out of the walls… like “HELLO” we have time just to crop in here. be just cropped/dropped by to say hi there and see how your daughters are!
He must think were as inexperienced/off balance as he is..
WTF!
“REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D), FLORIDA: So we need to address that issue, but we need to not take it out on Barack Obama, because it was not his fault.”
These ignorant bastards in the Dem party are STILL acting like the sexism & the cheating never took place during the primary.
There are no words to describe the absolute rage I’m feeling about this whole Obama mess.
These political whores better stop acting like they speak for Hillary supporters. Those Democrat puppets in Congress don’t speak for us.
Hold on to your money, Hillraisers!! Don’t give Obama nor the DNC s—!!
I don’t know. I kind of expected each and every Democrat to tell the Media that sexism was as out of bounds as racism. But hey. What do I know? I’m just a woman.
Newly Independent — IT WAS BARACK’S FAULT. The song he sang after he won the Iowa Caucus. I Got 99 Problems But The Bitch Ain’t One. Giving Hillary the finger on 2 occasions. Saying that there are certain times when women get emotional. Obama is the Sexist in Chief. Obama played the Sexist Card because like Dean he thought women would fold and go along with the program. Funny though when Obama ran out of gas and was sooooooo tired Hillary was out there everyday as bright as a new penny.
I guess it was so hard for Obama because he doesn’t know if he’s black or white, liberal or conservative, should his voice sound southern or northern. It takes so much out of you. Poor thing.
Yep - that bastard IS responsible (along with the media) for the rampant sexism that went on during the primary.
Which is why it pisses me off to see women - WOMEN - defending this scumbag and trying to downplay what has happened in the past six months! I look at them and think, “Where in the hell is your pride and self-respect?” “Why are you STILL supporting a politician who has NO RESPECT for you?” You know?
newly independent — they have to show us Women Democrats to say look this is the party of women. I called the when Obama began to use the sex and race as a part of his campaign and they told me the DNC is totally neutral and they could not tell the candidates how to behave. LIKE RIGHT
BO and Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, they all think we are so stupid… that’s what irritates me the most.
They just think we don’t notice these things, even on Fox it never stops… they are talking about some idiots comments in the NYt or post, and saying that BO supporters should not be asked to pay down Hillary’s debt, because they don’t like her and its her fault for spending all that money to attack him (fox commentator remarks)
When did Hillary ask BO to pay down her debt? Did I miss that one? Its only a BO ploy to continue to fan the hate against Hillary.
I agree. The Democrats talk about wooing, but they refuse to admit the most basic of issues. I’m sure they are reluctant to do so because they know that would refute Obama’s entire message.
He is the one who dissed Hillary.
anninCa — I would bet that Obama is being told in no uncertain terms that he had better get these millions of Democrats back. Maybe thats why he’s so tired. They promised him that this was a done deal and now he actually has to pander.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has been threatened in various ways by the Obama/DNC machine-not to mention local thugs. I live in FL. and know what’s going on locally-it’s not pretty.
All of the ardent Clinton supporters who didn’t cave immediately are being strong-armed. The only way to combat these tactics is to donate to candidates, like Wasserman-Schultz, Feingold, Jones, and other true Dems who backed Clinton.
I always liked Wasserman — she seemed to work hard to get a fair shake for Hillary. These Reps are really under intense pressure to fold or bear the consequences.
Just look at what happened to respected Civil Rights leader and long time Congressman John Lewis who has attracted Primary opponents just because he didn’t leave Hillary for Obama fast enough. It is just outrageous! I also heard that other black Clinton supporters have even received death threats on top of the more mundane “we’ll vote you out!”
We can’t let this gang get ahold of Washington — they have to be stopped someway!
SCHULTZ: It’s not unexpected that they count just automatically shift over to Obama, because they’re not the typical Democratic supporters that just automatically shift over. They need to be wooed. They need to be, you know — they need to be, um, won over.
Is it me or was this remark kind of sexist? It’s almost like she’s saying that women are too emotional or something.
Well, Obama can woo woo woo all he wants, as many of his early supporters start to boo hoo hoo. Most of us here knew, knew, knew what he could and could not do, do, do!
So this is what Kindergarten teachers do in the Summertime
she’s YOUNG (Debbie)
that’s all I have to say about her because I still admire her for the great part she had in the 30 something working group.
It’s also sexist in that it suggests Obama-rejection is solely a women’s movement.
Chuck — Of course its sexist and I think this is what bugs me most about what the DNC has done. They treated Hillary like a bond slave and now they are treating Women Democrats the same way. For their information — Millions of men voted for Hillary and they can’t stand the forced Obama UNITY either. Whatever next, Burkas and Lock Boxes?
I agree. The MSM are ignoring the “men” who don’t support Obama. It doesn’t fit into their proposed narrative of how they see it. MSM Idiots.
Sal — However this remark by Ed Schultz and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the new buzz phrase–we need to be wooed. Despite Obama’s objection Hillary’s name will be placed in nomination because they cannot afford to lose millions of Democratic Votes. Its not enough for me — because I’ve looked behind the curtain at the real Democratic Party and its sexist underbelly and I will never go back. However, it will be interesting to watch as they try to turn on the charm. I predict we won’t see too much of Donna Brazile for a while. We will however, see a lot more women out there trying to corral us ever so gently. HELL NO I WON’T GO. peace
No informed, educated discussion for you. You get wooing. Is this a date or the Presidency?
BTW: I am a male, and wooing me is out of the question. Hussein Obama is unelectable.
PS: I became a PUMA on June 2nd after 32 years as a Democrat and I will never vote for Precious. I want the best candidate, Hillary Clinton.!!
Never, ever, Obama.
I spend my days informing people. They do not like the information that is coming out. The O’s friend standing on the flag picture is a favorite.
Jesse Ventura is running against Al Franken
Jesse just needs his own reality show like the hulk hogan. Oy!
He can “woo” me til kingdom comes, but he’s not getting my money nor my vote! He’s not qualified with his anti-american, anti-white, anti-semetic friends and religion - not now, not tomorrow, maybe not ever. That’s a deal breaker for me! Frankly, I’m disappointed in Hillary for being so willing to endorse him after what his campaign did to Bill and her with the race card - I understand why she’s doing it, but I just about throw up everytime I see her name linked with his. The DNC can kiss my grits - I re-registered undeclared.
Just read in the LA Times today how “tired” Obambi is with all the attention focused on him on a day to day basis - he just can’t take it and isn’t used to it! THIS is who we want in the Oval Office? Guess he’ll break Bush’s record for vacation days.
It is hard for a person who isn’t who they pretend to be to be in the spotlight day after day. Hillary, on the other hand, is authentic and used to being in the spotlight and is secure in who she is and what she knows. She doesn’t have to pretend to be intelligent and knowledgeable. Obama is going to crash and burn one day soon.
Ann — Just read in the LA Times today how “tired” Obambi is with all the attention focused on him on a day to day basis - he just can’t take it and isn’t used to it.
I know a great way to stop all the media attention–GIVE IT UP. Obama hasn’t got what it takes. If Obama had been held by the Vietcong I wonder how long it would have taken him to give our secrets away. McCain was tortured for 5 years. Even when they would have allowed him to go free he stayed with his men because he didn’t want the VietCong –who knew his father and grandfather were Admirals to use his release as propaganda. THAT IS A REAL MAN WITH STAMINA and thats a man who could do the job on Day 1.
Obama has no capacity for work. Zero. He is very weak that way and this is why he had to go to the Virgin Islands during the campaign while Hillary was still out working her hands to the bone. He is weak, physically and mentally, and he is used to coasting and having things handed to him, like legacy and affirmative action admittances to Harvard.
Turning to what Susan and Ostertag wrote: The PUMA/Just Say No Deal coalition is not about GOP trolls. As Susan said, of course there will be elements of that in such a large grouping. However, it is in the Obama crew’s interest to PORTRAY the movement as a GOP one. That is what is happening here, and why you have seen innumerable bots and their blogs try to raise that bogus charge.
The majority of us — including those such as myself who have already begun to help and donate to McCain — are lifelong Dems who are simply totally committed to making sure that those coupists in the DNC and the party elite do NOT see their efforts rewarded. Because we know what the follow-through will be if they get Bambi through: the certification of their sexist, elitist, Stalinist tactics. We don’t want that to happen.
And so we are taking steps to prevent such a triumph of oligarchical nonsense. Some will stay home if BHO is nominated, others will vote for McCain. Still others will vote for Nader, or McKinney. And so on.
The unifying feature, however, of all of these people is that they want to see the illegitimate candidate and his puppetmasters defeated. That is what binds us, not some supposed “GOP trolldom.” All accounts of same are mere Bambian propaganda efforts and should be given the attention they are due: none.
Well said Paul. IMO a vote for Oblahma is a vote for sexism, thuggery and disenfranchisement. The “anything to win” strategy must no be condoned, it must be defeated.
Hear, hear!
I’m with you all the way, imustprotest.
*thumbs up*
Larry Sinclair, Obama’s bad penny
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2042897/posts
Very interesting article, the sinclair story is starting to snowball.
what money?
lol ok if I HAD money I’d be giving it to locally beat any candidates that voted for Bambi over Hillary! I know traitor Perdue will suffer. Barry even got her name wrong. After she turned her back on NC Hillraisers! He still disses her. What a MOfo!
Perdue, you asked for it and you got it - good! How’d it feel to not get kissed?
A shill for Emily’s list had the NERVE to call me and tell me that “woman like Bev Perdue” needed my help. I told her to call Obama.
aCK! I keep getting emails from all of them and keep canceling my subscriptions
it takes forever for them to stop~!!
I think one HUGE lesson learned with this election year is to setup an email address strictly for use during the election process that can be deleted/disposed if you continue to receive emails from those from whom you’ve tried to unsubscribe.
I don’t want to be ‘wooed’ and I sure as hell don’t want him to show me some love!
I just want him to GO AWAY!
Bella I second that!
Simple and direct! hehee!
GO AWAY!!
Try throwing Holy Water on him.
goo one!
I personally do not care if they think we’re Republican trolls. We know we aren’t, and that accusation is simply another way to discount this movement. Women are discounted all the time. We are used to it. Guess who’s going to get a surprise in November?
I frankly do not give a hoot in hell what the chattering class says about us. The fact is, many of us long-term Democrat PUMAS refuse to vote for the DNC’s selected candidate for reasons that have nothing to do with sour grapes.
They can discount us and pretend we’re Republican trolls all they want. The important thing is, we are not going to allow the DNC to select and unqualified candidate over a qualified candidate without a fight.
Obama is going to lose. He does not deserve our votes.
I look at it like this….. we women are like the wild stallions bolting or stampeding? lol
The REPUGS have noticed us and are trying like the wranglers they THINK they are.. to round us all up and channel us into their McCain Corral!
I’m not goin. I’m still running on the hopes of a HILLARY comeback.
jmo
What at all about the behavior of the DNC gives you the idea they will EVER allow Hillary to make a comeback? What do you plan to do when she doesn’t?
Unfortunately,
Only two options exist..
Obama OR McCain
One of them will win.
If you don’t vote for one, the other surely will win.
You are correct. There is a very good chance that BAmbi has this thing in the bag, knows it and is acting cocky in reaction to “knowing”
If that is true than NOTHING I do will matter will it?
I’ll cross that NOVEMBER bridge when I come to it. I hope to live that long! lol
Comment by uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to be president is uhh uhh ridiculous | 2008-07-09 10:51:16
Ok its a longshot but stranger things have happened. My state party is very nervous because only 54% of Democrats will support Obama and 5,000 Democrats have left the party here in the last month. They say they don’t care but its beginning to dawn on them that they might lose Congress — this is why they are throwing out a bone — by saying they will put Hill’s name in nomination. Debbie Wasserman Schultz was a bit insulting to our cause but she is expressing what the Party is thinking right now. We need to make nice to get them back in the fold. ITS NOT GOING TO WORK but lets watch them up the ante.
Agreed. It’s just their new talking point. “Your a Republican”. Like the, “your a Bigot”. “Typical white person.” “Your a religious wack.” “Your a gun toting redneck.” Or my all time favorite. “Your a racist.” I was called a racist so much and I have a mixed race grandchild. The same as he is. That I thought about having special T-shirts made up that said Proud Racist just ask an Obama supporter.
Then I realized it was just an empty word with no meaning behind it because they called everyone it that wasn’t voting for Obama a racist. Asian, Hispanic, Caucasian, Native American, African American.
While they covered up their own candidate’s racism of the past 20 years following Black Liberation Theology. His racist and criminal associates. Everything they throw out at us now is “Just Words”. No meaning behind them whatsoever. Just like their candidate…empty words that mean absolutely nothing.
I am tired of being labeled as some type of Republican troll. If anything, perhaps the Obama camp and his supporters should evaluate their own “Republican thought processes”, the number one being election fraud. The DNC has crowned Obama their king, let them live with it. I have voted Democrat all my life, at times having to hold my nose for the candidate, but I voted the party ticket. But not this time! The Dems figured if they couldn’t beat the Repubs, they’d join them! I don’t need Obama’s love, I need Hillary’s backbone! And the DNC needs a brain!
The DNC and the Obama camp (same diff) are using the tactics of Rove. Define the opponent first. Or another way of putting it would be frame the argument yourself. By defining us as repug trolls and then repeating it in the MSM echo chamber, classic propaganda, then they create the association in the general public’s minds that PUMA = Repug….the more we protest, the more coverage goes to our trying to their defination of us instead of the cause we’re fighting.
Hey. It’s the first stage. They are still in denial. After November when there are big bunches of Democrats missing from the polls, they’ll get it. I personally don’t give a chit if anyone calls me a Republican. For the first time in my life, my mother is happy with my choice and at least I don’t have to worry that anyone would think I support a flip flopper … again!
Mom and I crossed over the “unaffiliated” border together!!
I only have ONE Aunt & Uncle that are die hard DEMS that will vote DEM no matter WHAT!! I’ve almost convinced my Aunt but never my Uncle. He’s blinded by hate over what GW has done. (I’ve noticed many of my X dem friends are still quite blinded)
I think hate is hate on either side and disasters come with no political tag only inept strategies and people put in charge
WE don’t NEED another FAILURE PRESIDENCY!
beebop — it burns me up to be called a Republican because I volunteered for every loser the Dems put up for the last 40 years. There should be some kind of Democratic Gold Star because that was service above and beyond the call of duty. Standing in a Subway station in NYC trying to sell Scoop Jackson or George McGovern was not an easy task. Let them call me a former Democrat — and let them know everybody has their breaking point.
beebop! love it “They are still in denial” put their “stages of grief” pop Oprahpsychology stuff right back on them…brilliant!
*haha….love it. Makes our conservative parents happy.
I agree. I was called Rethug many times on the HuffPo. I got used to it. Today, I’m not interested in labels. It’s just an immature statement.
Tell me why I should vote for Obama rather than McCain. Can’t? Then go to the back of the room.
CJ — The problem with the Democratic Party is that they are sexist. They talk the talk but they sure don’t walk the walk. We will come home? Are they kidding? The Democratic Party should come home to their principles — when they shed those principles they lost people like me. The Party bragged that it was NEW and it didn’t need its base of Seniors/Boomers, White Workers, Women and Hispanics. When my State Party called me to be active in this election I told them The Democratic Party thinks it can win without its base. The man said you know thats not true. Well if he knows its not true and we know its not true then where does this arrogance come from?
Ok Democratic Party, If you can do it without our support and our money then go for it. And when it comes to your Democratic Base who has walked away GET OVER IT.
They ignored all the warnings from Day 1. I don’t want to hear the whining now.
Every single exit poll told the story. The traditional Democrats did NOT support Obama, and they TOLD the pollsters they would not vote for him.
So there is no excuse. The Democratic leadership ignored the voters then. And they should be ashamed.
The DNC is like the little kid who jumps into the pool and says sheepishly, “can I go swimming?”
Remember Pelosi’s speech? It’s going to take a woman to clean up the mess. I was right behind her going YEAH! She hasn’t cleaned up anything! Two years now and not one promise fulfilled. In fact we’re worse off now then we were two years ago. I didn’t have 20 houses on my street going into foreclosure 2 years ago. I didn’t pay 4.95 for a gallon of gas 2 years ago. What happened to all those promises if we stood behind them and made them the majority?
We had the chance to bring in a real woman candidate that would have cleaned house. That would have worked with Republicans to get done what needed to be done. We saw Bill do it over and over. The DNC threw it all away. Now we got Obama, a pretend centrist.
McCain is a centrist just as Hillary was. I’m not a child anymore that wants to play pretend games. I’m sick of “all” of them(Republicans and Democrats) sitting up there playing the playground bully like a bunch of children, instead of running this country like responsible adults. The moderate ones we have up there then have to fight both sides to get even one thing accomplished. It’s sickening. They’re not children. Yet they’re up there with our lives, our future generations lives playing like children.
Will Obama select his sweetie Michelle as his RUNNING MATE while high profile candidates are abandoning ship like there is no tormorrow?
Go for Michelle, Kerry and Edwards jumbo!!
Another respected holdout, 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser, excellent read (sorry the link is to huffpo, but worth it!)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-breitweiser/oh-yes-she-can_b_111627.html
LOVE her!!
me too Dawnelle, she is exceptionally brave.
and we sure have a shortage of BRAVE now days don’t we?
It’s time for Brave DNA to STEP UP!
maybe bearing children (in the end) is the epitome of brave
soupcity, The article was wonderful, but I made the mistake of scrolling down to the comments and immediately remembered why I canceled my subscription to Huffpo.
I have a curious feeling about this. Yesterday, many of us received emails from Huffpo and there was another article with a link over there. When I left there were no articles favorable to Hillary and few pro Hillary comments. The comments are the same spew as ever and I refuse to go there again. Nothing has changed much except maybe now Ariana needs something, like more ticks or money for her new project.
Please go to Lynn’s group site: http://www.together4us.com/
sign the pledge to honor Hillary and keep her and 18 million from being marginalized-
Leave your comments- This is a movement- a snowball that has started down the hill- Join in- power in numbers!
I agree with your pledge but have stopped signing pledges that ask me for my phone number, address, etc because I keep getting calls, and spam mail.
I believe most of the Hillary-supporting pols who are now speaking for Obama are just going through the motions. Office holders, especially, have to walk a tightrope to keep in good graces with the party. Their words sound hollow even in print, let alone heard on film. Sometimes what they say is so absurd (Barack didn’t use sexism) that it comes off sounding sardonic, as though surely no one is meant to believe it!
hootnannie — I agree. Top Democrats are just going through the motions for Obama. He has turned into a prima dona who is forcing everyone to bend to his will and they are not amused. He wants the Democratic Party to spend untold thousands so that he can have the stage to himself at a football stadium doesn’t have to hear the cheering if Hillary’s name is put in nomination. If this man cannot share the limelight with a woman who received more votes than the did — he is too immature to have the top job in this country.
His craziness, Coward Dean is retreating on ‘fried food’ in Denver. Geez, can we retire his guy to his la la land already??
http://origin.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_9822064
yea because (I read) they couldn’t find enough green vendors to supply!
DOH!
Nothing like not being emotionally invested in your “party” candidate to open your eyes as to the fact that there are a bunch of clowns running it, is there?
Well. Odonna Brabamma doesn’t have to worry about extra “bag” charges now …. A woman who wrote a book entitled “Chewing on Fat” certainly wasn’t going to go a week without grease …
LMAO OH YEA!!!
Plenty of KFC this year, folks.
Disappointing as it is, WOMEN are the worst sexist against other women and have no understanding how damaging it is to them and most of all the display of their ignorant.
Women have come a long way, you women and some of us men are not going to stop fighting for your right now.
Just remenber, a strong and intellegent women equal a healthy Nation, THE MOTHERS.
Wake Up America!
fyi for you good men
women are allowed to diss other women but generally women have an instinct to NOT diss elder women
it usually is NOT put up with
it’s like a cult of women
RESPECT MOMMA or pay!! lol
and for GOD SAKE don’t MESS WITH GRANNY!
Historically you will find that the most egregious anti-feminists can be women …. can you say Ann Coulter?
yuck do I have too??
but r we sure she is ???
ok I won’t say it but I’ve got questions about that huge adams apple
Ann Coulter:
man or woman? You decide
Can I have another choice?
I agree beebop. I campaigned for the passage of the ERA (twice)and it was really disturbing how many women didn’t see the need or felt it was some kind of threat. It is a cultural thing and until something happens to change how women perceive themselves, it won’t change and many people in this country are interested in maintaining the status quo. Hillary could have been the catalyst for change, and the DNC tried to break her. It was heartbreaking.
More talk of suppressing the roll call vote. What are the Obama types AFRAID of? That some stupor-delegates might come to their senses and change what’s left of their minds?????
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/08/2008-07-08_democrats_roll_call_brouhaha-3.html
How completely disgusting. Thanks for the article Jumped. I made a note of each name and intend to look for contact information. Even Rangle.
Let the women have their vote? It is shocking how little they understand the problem they have with both women and MEN who supported HIllary.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been craving the name of some new delegates to add to my email list.
Until they address the misogyny in the Obama Campaign which the Democratic Party gave a ‘wink’ to, my wallet and I are staying home.
I am also upset that they keep allowing him a pass on his use of “Universal Health Care” when it is not. For months we were told the lies that his policy positions and Hillary’s were virtually the same. NOW we understand that they were not.
We were sold down river from the very beginning and are now being told we are bad for not toeing the line (of deception)and holding true to our principles (core Democratic issues).
Ask, what major legislation did he pass and ask how is his state is better off than other states. Ask is everyone covered via his health care plan in his state? Ask and keep asking…
Name one accomplishment by Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0
Name an accomplishment by Obama, part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgXPVmlXKQI&feature=related
Obama campaign rep STUMPED on legislative accomplishments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o&feature=related
I too am tired of being called a Rep troll! The MSM simply won’t “get” the idea of us NOT EVER voting for Precious.
This was the first time I was involved in a campaign, and I dare anyone to check out the hours I happily called for Hillary. Rep troll my A$$!
Debbie Shultz has turned out to be a disappointment as well. Guess she got her palmed greased.
Not Lynn Forester, she speaks for me. I just don’t like him, or trust him, AND he’s UNqualified!
Thank you Lynn for speaking for me.
PUMA!
rise Hillary rise.
NEVER, EVER, EVER voting for Obama
Ugh! We just got the ‘donate’ email from the Obama camp. It felt like our computer had been violated.
Is hate too strong of a word at this point?
The DNC and Obama will not get one cent or any votes from us - one member of our family has voted DEM since the 1930’s. It’s too late to be wooed or apologized to.
Obama is the most worthless candidate the fraudulent DNC has ever ’selected’.
I have studied voting processes in many democracies around the world. When it comes to the DNC primaries and nomination, it is one of the most peculiar systems, with plenty of room for fraud and manipulation. Even the self anointed voting ‘Seal of approval’ Jimmy Carter should have a problem with it.
Most definitely. And the CNN piece did not mention one word about this particular concern of many “hold-outs”. Of course not, because the media are an integral part of the whole rotten scheme.
As for Jimmy Carter, I donated to the Carter Foundation for years until just a few months ago when I heard his coy little non-endorsement endorsements of Obama in the media.
If he does not use his influence and prestige to make sure the Democratic Convention is conducted in a democratic manner, he will earn the eternal title of World Class Hypocrite and there will be a special place for him in Dante’s domain.
Mr Carter, how about joining Larry King for a little chat sometime real soon?
omg he was on my heroes list forEVER!
I took him down around the same time. He totally is a hypocrite to his FAIR ELECTIONS cause around the world.
HOW ABOUT HERE JIMMY? Where WERE YOU and AL GORE when the DNC TOOK AWAY DELEGATES???
SINCE WHEN DO A DOZEN INSIDERS CHOOSE OUR CANIDATE? And if that’s always been the case it’s time for THAT LITTLE piece of chit to CHANGE!!!
DID I just fall off the turnip truck? Does this chit always happen in primaries???? I’ve not paid close attention to primaries much before say 1980?
CANDIDATE
GRR typos
mr flip flopper is doing it again with this iran news….he just keeps on going and going and going…
I’m tired of being called a “republican troll”. I was (independent now) a Democrat for over 45 years - guess that makes me an uneducated, illiterate, old, blue collar, white female - until I was thrown out of the Democratic party because I was not needed - the ‘new’ party according to Dean, Pelosi, Brazill & Obama has all the people it needs to elect “61. What the hell happened - aren’t there enough of those highly educated, elistist, liberals, AA’s and college students in this country to elect the anointed one - now you want us back? Screw you -and the donkey you’re riding. I’m done with the Dems - you turned on the best person to run this country - Hillary - kicked the majority of the Dem party to the curb & now ‘you’ have the nerve to say we will fall in line and come back in November - not gonna happen. This fight has been brewing for a long time & this latest episode was the button pusher for millions of women (and male supporters who aren’t afraid of strong women) {actually - all of us women are strong - we just don’t realize it and act on it} - to make a stand for all women and we are by protesting the 2008 selection process of an immature, unqualified and inadequate male with a nonexistent resume, questionable friends, an ego that’s enormous, and who’s tired already and the convention isn’t until August. (not hard to understand - the anointed one has never held a job in his entire life) Go PUMAS!!!!
sue — Dean and Brazile made a calculation that if they didn’t hand Obama the nomination AA’s would riot. Hillary’s women would just go home and lick their wounds. The Party will get it soon that that HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED. We’re not burning bras we are burning Democratic Party Registrations. We are not DNC bond slaves. Oh and by the way its not only women who have joined PUMA — to Howard Dean and the rest of you Sexists — GET OVER IT.
No you get over it. Stop blaming Hillary’s failure on external factors. For a minute I thought they would make a good team, but I remembered the commander in chief comments and realize Hill would spend all her time as VP candidate defending/explaining her comments. I think I can agree with most here an Obama/Clinton ticket is a bad idea.
Obama/Sebelius 2008
The best person to run this country? Give me a break. She couldn’t even run her own campaign. Hillary’s resume consist of living off her husband and covering up for him when he got bust with other women. Don’t support the democrats because your precious Hillary couldn’t be the nominee. May be McCain will win and the country will surely go faster to hell in a hand basket. You PUMA folks think savior Hillary will storm back in 2012 and win? Not gonna happen. She’s burnt bridges in the caucus states that she won’t be able to rebuild. The other half of the democratic party won’t forget Hillary’s contributions to the McCain campaign and we’ll make sure she is never president. If Obama wins I’m sure many of us will come back here for the pity party. I know I will.
Hey SloboDannee boy! So, she burnt Bridges, eh? Gimme a break, demothug! Obambi doesn’ts have the cajones to vote for what he believes in. OBAMA’S A FRAUDSTER AND A FLIP-FLOPPER –Voted against MoveOrg while Hillary stood her ground and voted for these godam Thugs at Move.Org to stick to her principled postion. While your Chicago mobster who steals elections from AfricanAmerican women like his mentor Sen.Alice Palmer and steals nominations through his sexist campaign and his low-class sexist digs playin the cool lRapper JayZ scraping the shit off his shoes and dusting off his skinny shoulders..yup your Moron CHANCEY THE GARDENER candidate (Peter Sellers had his no. in “Being There”–go see it Slob.
You are running an unethical, unprincipled MISOGYNIST ANOREXIC RESUME LIKE OBAMBI…and you expect to win the Election…no way SLOB Sweetie!
Once a lazy slob like Obamarama, always too lazy to push the right button to VOTE even…what a jerko you’re supporting slobbo! Now go get lost, a la DemoThugslObambi….shooo shooo go back to your cave in the Obambi Make Believe FAIRY TALE!
p.s. is SloboDanny the producer of the Yutube hit:
OBAMA GIVES HILLARY TEH FINGER? He sounds like he’s the energy to get off his posterior and do some unSlobish work….maybe your Obamabi Sharia Law cousin of Odinga will help you!
VOTE McKinney for President
Hillary– you are the Best
OBAMBI IS A SLICK COOL THUGRAPPER SLUMLANDLORD FROM CHICAGO
How dare the media stay this was organized by the Republicans. They just dont get it. I was a Democrat all my life as were my parents and my grandparents. For us it was God, Country and the Democratic Party. I changed party registration along with 5,000 other Democrats in my city this last month because I will not go along with the Democratic Party forcing Hillary out so that could give the nomination to Obama. They have told us the base of the party could just stay home — that we were not needed and now Mr. O says we will get over it. I won’t get over it and I know for a fact that State Parties are nervous over the fact that the presumptive nominee will cost them seats in November.
John McCain and the Republican Party did nothing to sway my vote. Senator McCain has been a moderate Republican Senator for 26 years so I think that most of us decided on our own to go with someone we know rather than this pig in a poke our party wants to sell us.
They have called us names they have told us we are no longer needed in the New Democratic Party. If the media wants to blame someone let them blame Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi for forcing Obama down our throats. Nancy was going to cut the nomination process if Hillary didn’t give the nomination to Obama. We don’t need the Republican Party to tell us what to do–the Democratic Party did just that.
The media ought to report how Obama was organized by Republicans and how the Democrats were played once again by Republicans.
kcfromtx: What are you talking about?
Obama is bad voodoo. I haven’t liked him ever sense he stole that “Just words speech”.
I don’t like him. There is no winning me over. The guy lies, he is a shit and that is it.
If it has to be a Republican McCain is a good one.
“Frankly, I don’t like him. I feel like he *is* an elistist.”
HAHAHA! Beautiful!
THIS JUST IN:
NOBODY HAS TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
In case that was getting blurred these days.
Even if you still have a (D) on your voters registration card!
LOL. The Hillraiser in the video said: “…Frankly…I don’t like him…”
I have been WAITING for someone to SAY THAT!
Just plain: I don’t like him.
FOR ME, it was the day he said “Hillary was likable enough”
I jumped up and “say WHAT MOFO?” (yes I swore, surprise, surprise! lol) oops
THAT was the day I stopped LIKING him.
We don’t need any messages from Hillary supporters. They need a message from us, the followers of the next President. Get off your high horses and get to work electing Barack Obama. Think of your children and quit being selfish.
We are thinking of our children and our COUNTRY.
They need to be protected from barky.
Ha! This is not an Obama for potus web site idiot! We already made our decision. Perhaps you should reconsider yours. Obama’s people are the most selfish group I’ve ever seen. Check out his Chicago pals, bot.
There is no way on God’s green earth I and many others will be working for Obama. Why don’t YOU get off your high horse and realize some of us care more about democracy and the will of the people and not just about manipulating and winning. And if you don’t like Hillary supporters get off this blog. No one asked you to blog here.
Bobo: I DID think of America’s children, and that’s why I voted for Senator Clinton, a person who has been fighting for America’s children since before Obama the Tyrant was even born.
I agree with you Kat…but you say “before Obama was even born…” HOW do we actually know WHEN he was born when he won’t show his real birth certificate!!!:)
CNN just reported FISA bill passed senate. What happened to the filibuster?
Bobo is going down … in flames.
“They need a message from us, the followers of the next President. Get off your high horses and get to work electing Barack Obama. Think of your children and quit being selfish.”
F— you and your message.
American children’s future is one of the VERY good reasons that Hillary supporters are NOT voting for Barack Obama in November.
The future of this country is at stake. And the majority of Americans will NOT hand the most powerful office in the world to an inexperienced, arrogant, sexist, racist, flip-flopping, attention-whoring, backstabbing and unprincipled Barack Obama.
So “get over it.”
The followers of the next President? Followers? Normally people refer to themselves as supporters.
Here’s something about Americans. We don’t, as a rule, like being told what to do.
You don’t tell us how to vote, where to live, whom to marry, what religion to follow or to follow any religion.
Remember what happened the last time someone was elected because people liked him or wanted to have a beer with him? We ended up with GWB.
The President is about more than inspiration. It’s about being able to do the job.
Obama can’t handle having an opponent (see Chicago). He made sure all of his Democratic opponents were pushed off of the ballot when he ran for State Senate.
His main Republican opponent divorce records, when he ran for the US Senate, suddenly became public. He had to drop out.
There were calls for Hillary Clinton to drop out as early as February this year.
There’s a clear pattern here.
Obama goes after Democrats as well as Republicans.
Sometimes he goes after Democrats more.
We should trust our future and children to someone like that? I don’t think so.
Think of my children? Say what?
I’ll not vote in a liar like Obama BECAUSE I care for the future of this country.
Good grief. Work for Obama?
Never.
I’m not even going to work for many Democrats anymore. I’m Independent. Should have been all along. I WAS a loyal Democrat until I saw what they did this year. No more.
ONLY those Democrats and Republicans who earn my respect will get my vote and my money and my time.
You go right ahead and be a lemming.
My children and grandchildren are exactly who I will think of when I proudly vote AGAINST “your chosen one” No Hillary then no Dem for me. I’ll wait out a rep. pres. for 4 more years and pray that the DNC gets a clue.
O is nothing more than an mirage. He and the DNC should be thinking about what the Medicare legislation will do to the elderly. Many physicians are either dropping Medicare or looking at a way to work around it. (Perhaps allowing the door open for fewer Medicare patients per month.)
This peacock is all show. Hillary is the best candidate. Due to the lack of foresight on the part of the DNC, I will no longer play ball.
HRC has every right to be on that ballot and O had better watch out. Just as the DNC flip flopped into his corner, come August they can easily do the same if they believe that this weenie is going to be taken under the bus in November.
I think the unsung heroes of the PUMA”s and the other pro Hillary sites, and organizations, is the millions of men who have stood by Hillary and we women. They have been right there on the front lines against the sexism, and the nasty names Hillary and we have been called. Now that ,to me is a Real man. Not this empty suit, and empty promise maker that wants to turn our country into his false image. Thank you Larry, No Quarter, and all you Real men. You are needed and appreciated. PUMA
Indeed, Here! Here!
You sweetie’s just need to fall in line! If you will just “get over it” you can hear the celestial choir!!
MEchelle - Don’t you have some eyes to scratch out somewhere?
None of you is willing to state your real reason for taking a position against Obama.
Many of us have stated over and over again our reasons. You and your friends just don’t want to hear it.
Isaiah 32:
Then the eyes of those who see will not be blinded,
And the ears of those who hear will listen.
The mind of the hasty will discern the truth
OMG, What an idiot. WE have stated it over and over and OVER, why we will never support OBAMA. You are just like the man you are supporting, YOU DON”T HAVE A CLUE. You must have the “ole selective hearing”, or should I say, the “ole seletive reading” syndrome. Only hear and see what you want. Never really living in reality. Grow up, do some research and start using your God givin brains, if you have any.
PUMA
NObama
One half vote is where I got off the bus.
He is a liar. He told the public “I only worked 4 or 5 hours for Rezko,” when in fact he had a 20-year relationship with the man and even worked a house property deal with him.
That type of liar is not someone I can vote for as president.
As was so elegantly stated here by a different person: I do not believe Obama’s publicly stated beliefs square with his privately held beliefs.
I will not vote for Obambam because he is a flip-flopper. Need I give examples? Need I mention also the cheating DNC?
Hey Bobo,
Had your dose of kool-aid today? Hurry, you’re late for your indoctrination session!!!
Meanwhile, us real patriots will work on keeping our country, flaws and all, safe from the likes of Obama and his left-wing zealots.
PUMA
You’re bitter because we just could not trust that woman.
Your Kool-Aid is getting bitter. MEchelle is peeing in it.
That’s your reason for being against Hillary? Fine.
Funny how when we say we don’t trust Obama, according to you, that’s not good enough.
Talk about a double standard.
Bobo, Who the heck are you that I have to explain anything, my mother? My life, my opinion, my right, my vote. Get over it!!!!! PUMA
Bobo, well, there. You’ve answered your own question. I just don’t trust that man. PUMA
I agree I don’t trust him and I don’t like him because I don’t like people that I don’t trust. I don’t trust bobo either and I don’t like him/her/it
I’m wondering if the Democratic Party might be a little miffed that while they took their 4th of July Holiday Obama became a Republican.
Oh my, Rep.Debbie Wasserman Schultz, You have shown yourself to be such a disappointment to the Millions of Hillary’s supporters, especially the women. You, the DNC and ole Barky boy can “WOO” us till the cows come home, but you will never “WIN” our votes. And Barky boy will never get 1 fr’n dime.
I sure hope, the millions of voters from your state, remember you and vote you out next election.
PUMA
NObama
When I first heard that Hillary was running for President, I cringed. But what HillaryFighter posted above describes exactly the progression I went through as I made my decision who I would vote for in the Georgia primary. I watched the early debates, began to view Hillary as an individual candidate apart from Bill, witnessed her wisdom, wit, intelligence and complete command of the issues and was thoroughly impressed. This revelation of Hillary’s candidacy and all that she stood for happened over a period of months for me. It became clear to me that she was the best candidate for the job and still is. I’ll use the word “substance.” There was so much of it in Hillary — and so much lacking in Dodd, Richardson, Obambi, etc. We all know she became an even stronger candidate as time went on. Her warmth and caring (the real Hillary) was finally there for all to see. She let down some of her guard, despite being fearful that she would not be viewed as strong as her male challenger. In retrospect we all know now that Hillary has the will and determination that Obambi can never summon from within.
Obambi’s campaign won’t acknowledge the sexism that occurred during the primary? What a shock! They wouldn’t recognize it if they fell over it. This is the same guy who has repeatedly called female reporters “sweetie” and who slaps he wife on the butt on national TV. I personally don’t want any “love” from Obambi (UGH). I don’t want anything from him and he certainly should expect nothing from me.
Lastly, I am not a Republican anything. I have been a loyal Democrat since I turned 18 and am still mourning the loss of what was once my Party. But life goes on…
I want something from NObama. I want him to go away. Get lost! Take a hike. Get back under that rock. Go back to Chicago and fleece them some more. Go home to your neighbor Rezko and bilk some more money from the poor. Yep, I want a lot from Backtrack Nobama.
I agree with Ostertag regarding Russ Feingold, but his gratuitous remark about PUMA sucks. It’s better for his narrative over at HuffyPo if we are all perceived as trolls…God knows it’s too complicated for them otherwise!
According to this CNN piece, only about 10% of Hillary supporters are currently considering voting Republican. Hardly indicative of a major troll operation!
As far as Hillraisers are concerned, I hope the majority of them hold out for her name to be placed in nomination. As Bud always says, “follow the money”, it talks
and peddles the influence sure enough!
What I don’t want to see is a trade-off wherein her debt is retired in exchange for her name not being placed in nomination.
I know the Big Dawg would resist that vehemently, but it’s Hillary that is under the pressure cooker…still, to trade that off would be such a betrayal to future generations… not to mention 18 million Americans.
BoboBolinsky AKA BOO,
Maybe its your how you are trying to woo
us ladies:
Hell’s Grannies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygy7UDADXDg&feature=related
Thats me, Hells Granny. Ridding my moped and being a rebel at 48 and definitely not falling in line and voting for Obama!
Thats me, Hells Great-Granny, riding my moped and being a rebel at 60 plus plus and not falling in line, not getting over it and voting instead for McCain. They can get over it…and my checkbook and my VISA.
I’m not in love with the notion, but if Obama is the nominee, I WILL be voting McCain, much to the disgust of my family and friends and various and sundry other Obamazoids. I had to change my address on my voter registration the other day and my hand was trembling so great was the urge to change my affiliation to Independent, but I won’t do it because a Democrat I am and a Democrat I will stay. These Obamaloons need to get it together or get out!
I wouldn’t give Russ Feingold a DIME for his stance on FISA. He chose to back Obama. If he needs support, he can kiss the ass of his fearless leader.
And as far as Jesse Ventura goes, I saw him on a talk show, and he’s a backer of Obama as well. His reasons?? He wanted to break the Clinton/Bush dynasty, and preferred someone FRESH. FRESH is an adjective I only use for a sandwich, not a presidential candidate. It’s so comforting that he can easily toss out Hillary’s experience, intelligence, and accomplishments for the frivolous reason that her last name is “Clinton”. He must think it’ll make him dizzy if he has to read a history book one day and find Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton written under the list of President of the United States. He really should stick to his grade level of logic and focus on Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
“Frankly, I don’t like the guy…and I don’t trust him” LOL. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
There’s independent thinking going on. We have nothing to “get over.” Sen. Obama, we just want you to know we are not part of “the herd.” We’re not a herd of cows being marched along and given a place to hold as we wait on the needs of the bulls. We are independent, thinking women voters and we’re organizing, with independent, thinking men who do not want to be in the herd either. If you wish to be part of the herd, go ahead, swish your tail, and chew your cud. We will not be your cash cows, either. We’re organizing. We’re sharing ideas. We’re forming the foundation for a new, strong, third party. We are challenging every aspect of the “group think” that has taken over the DNC. Many of us are actively doing all we can to pay down Hillary’s campaign debt. We realized that what is currently being called the “Democratic Party” is something else entirely. We don’t faint, moan or slobber at Obama rallies. We look at the issues and we consider qualifications. We don’t swoon nor do we “fall in line.” Some of us will vote for John McCain, others will vote for other candidates on the ballot. I hope none of us will stay home. But whatever we choose to do, we own our own votes. We’re excited to be part of a real movement for change. Get over it? Do you think we will “come on over” after you’ve treated us like battered spouses? You hit. You kiss. We get in bed with you again? Get over it, Sen. Obama. We are independent now. You’re on your own. We’re just getting started. We are PUMA and a hundred other names that have one common goal. Keeping Barack Obama out of the White House. Hear us roar. Hear us purr. We’re here. Get used to it.
Amen Mandelay!
Those pesky Independent Thinkers!
I imagine that if the reports are true, and PUMA’S have contributed enough to pay down half of HRC’S debt, the concerns I voiced earlier regarding potential horse-trading in Denver would no longer be valid.
I’d love to see Hillary go into the convention hall as a free agent and not be dragged to Invesco Stadium as a warm-up act for the Messiah. One more major fundraising push might do the trick!
Well said!
Closer to the truth to say Obama is a Republican troll operation.
Woe Betide the Democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3q8dHA4Hk
Thank you for your words Hillaryfighter
This is exactly what my family experienced. We listened to Obama’s positions during the debates and speeches and it didn’t take long for us to figure out he was a “no-go”.
So, we listened and followed Senator Clinton, even resisted a bit, but after debating amonst our family, she won hands down. She knows the issues and has practical and sound solutions. In addition, she demonstrated leadership as well as incredible poise and grace under fire. She knows putting America back on the right track isn’t going to be easy, and it surely will take a lot more than Obama’s hope and change American Idol tour.
Senator Hillary Clinton for President in 2008!
Amen! Hillary in 2008! Best candidate for POTUS in a long, long, long while.
Why was she better than Biden, Dodd, or Richardson?
Let us be clear here, being a democrat does not say or mean you should vote for a candidate that you do not trust or believe in. You can not run away from yourself.
Wear a yellow rose to honor our right to vote as women, (which we have had for less than 100 years –Women’s right to vote amended to the U.S. Constitution 1920) and in protest of any and all party officials who maintain, we don’t matter!
I agree with LynnForester and do not like or trust Obama.
I proudly am not voting for Obama but for anyone out there who is worried about backlash from friends, family, kids for Obama or freaked out New Democrats,
I suggest the Senator Obama “I pushed the wrong button”
excuse.
Morning Joe laughing at Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua3lOS8US5U
Great video, when did this story air, yesterday? I am shocked to see MSNBC actually shocked though, not their dear Bambi….
When I vote for president I surely won’t push the wrong button, No Bama.
My family has been Democrats for 4 generations, and I can very comfortably say even beyond that, because we come from working class ancestry.
I won’t give 10 cents to BO or the DNC for their treatment of HRC. I have abandon the Democratic Party. As of yesterday, I registered as an Independent.
And I have to say, I am proud and energized to be associated with PUMA and Larry’s blog site here. It’s not only great therapy for me, I am really feeling we are making some waves out there.
NObama in 09
Love you Hillary!!
AAND ALSO, I don’t care if there are Repub’s on this site! I’d rather them be here then you Obamabots! At least we finally see eye to eye on something! NOBAMA!!
obama is a phony. and obama is more likely a republican than i or any of the pumas. that said…
i don’t like him. i don’t trust him. i loathe him. i’m afraid of him. i’m SICK of him. i don’t like his friends. i don’t like his wife. i don’t like his secretiveness. i don’t like his arrogance. i don’t like his views (whatever they are day to day). i don’t like his voice. i don’t like his face. i don’t care about his color - whatever the hell it is. i will take every legal step available to me as an american to ensure he does not steal the presidency. he will ruin what’s left of this country.
he’s a liar, a cheat, a thug, a poseur, a gangster and most likely a future dictator. he is a LIAR. he is a blatant misogynist. he is a RACIST. more than that, he is a scary racist. i don’t even want to think what will happen to this country if that scary racist gets in the white house. AND, even if he chooses hillary as the vp i will NOT vote for him or the crooked dnc.
i am mad as hell and i simply won’t take it anymore.
the dnc can try to woo me, but in my life, i’ve had plenty of slimy bastard men try to “woo” me and THAT didn’t work. the dnc can try to pay me off with favors, but i am not a whore. i am a woman of principle, values and loyalty. i will NEVER support a person or a party that cheated, lied and verbally crucified in the most horrible, sexist ways, the best candidate we’ve had for president since perhaps fdr. i will never “get over it.” EVER. if i live to be 150, i will never forget what was done to this country and to hillary clinton. NEVER EVER.
i’ve been a democrat since 1976, my first year eligible to vote, but i will NOT vote democratic AT ALL, and perhaps not ever UNLESS… the dnc is cleaned out and hillary is nominated at the convention.
i cannot speak for anyone else, but i can say this - NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER will i vote for the A**HOLE obama.
i hope that makes it clear to the obamabots and the brainless f**ks who STILL think women like me will eventually lift our skirts and spread our legs for the almighty dnc and its bastard obama.
What she said!!!
Right Sugar, can’t improve on that one, well done!
Clinton lost. After Super Tuesday she had no way to secure the nomination except through Super Delegates. They went with the one who had the clear majority of pledged delegates. The outcry should be at Penn for running such a bad campaign she gave away a prize that was hers from the start.
The same is true for Obama, except he could have won the required delegates had he actually convinced Democrats to vote for him. He failed to close the deal.
So your perspective, shared by many, is BS. NEITHER could reach the number required. She won the popular vote.
Now, tell me which one really won?
Hillary did. That’s who.
That is not correct, child. Mr. Penn ran a great campaign and should be admired. What happen was what we all know- race baiting- and that is still in the news as of today. Race-baiting involving the man who should have stay home and not be part of Mrs. Clinton’s race for the whitehouse, Bill Clinton. If this incident did not take place in South Carolina, many african americans would not have voted for Obama. Because as of now, many of those same african americans have left his side and are now in limbo. They also read blogs and rumors of truth, and are “secretly” not wanting to vote for him.
Hillary has never lied? the Clinton white house was never secretive? I blame Hillary for making so many women bitter. She didn’t care about your precious votes until she needed it and it doesn’t phase you. Oh well. the democratic party will miss your vote. Hopefully, you’ll be miserable after the election, but be hearty if Obama loses Hillary can run in 2012 and lose the primary all over again!
Perry Logan wrote “Closer to the truth to say Obama is a Republican troll operation.”
I think I am starting to wonder the same exact thing.
BTW, your video is funny.
DITTO hilldemgoneindie
Yeah the rumor is that Soros is actually bank rolling BO so he would beat the stronger candidate Hillary and then McCain would face the weaker BO in Nov.
That’s what I heard on another blog.
On China Confidential blog site, Kim Jon Il is expected to endorse BO!! I can’t wait to see the BO trolls typical endorser response, “welcome aboard Kim Jon Il”, “glad to have ya”.
Soros is a Democrat (he backed Clinton).
Soros is not a democrat nor a republican, he is a kzillionare. He has no loyalty to a party, a country or anything else.
hilldemgoneindie, I wanted to say all that, but all I can say is
“”"”"D I T TO “”"”"
Ugh!
I don’t want to be “wooed” or “won over” - no thanks. I certainly don’t want any “love”. Gag.
What I want is a candidate of substance. Who has the credentials to back it up. There isn’t time for training wheels.
What I want is a candidate who has put others before her/himself.
What I want is a candidate I know is not a pig, a racist, a bigot.
Do you know that his supporters cannot name a single thing he has done that he didn’t somehow indirectly benefit from it?
http://hillary1000.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/failing-to-deliver/
A couple weeks back, the Boston Globe ran a pretty salacious piece about derelict private management of affordable housing in Obama’s Senatorial district in Chicago - management put in place by deals made between Obama the politician and his developer donors…
I am guessing if you asked for something Hillary did most people will say she failed at healthcare. People know vwey little about politicians except the one at the top.
The Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act
Introduced by Sen. John McCain in May 2005, and cosponsored by Sen. Edward Kennedy. Barack Obama added three amendments to this bill.
While the bill was never voted on in the Senate, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Acts of 2006 and 2007, respectively, drew heavily upon the wording of this bill.
The Lugar-Obama Cooperative Threat Reduction.
Introduced by Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Dick Lugar and Sen. Tom Coburn.
First introduced in November 2005 and enacted in 2007, this bill expanded upon the successful Nunn-Lugar threat reduction, which helped secure weapons of mass destruction and related infrastructure in former Soviet Union states.
Lugar-Obama expanded this nonproliferation program to conventional weapons — including shoulder-fired rockets and land mines. When the bill received $48 million in funding, Obama said, “This funding will further strengthen our ability to detect and intercept illegal shipments of weapons and materials of mass destruction, enhancing efforts to prevent nuclear terrorism.”
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006
This act of Congress, introduced by Senators Obama and Coburn, required the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds in FY2007.
Despite a “secret hold” on this bill by Senators Ted Stevens and Robert Byrd, the act passed into law and was signed by President Bush. The act had 43 cosponsors, including John McCain.
The act created this Web site, which provides citizens with valuable information about government-funded programs.
Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act
This law helped specify US policy toward the Congo, and states that the US should work with other donor nations to increase international contributions to the African nation.
The bill marked the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor. Following this legislation’s passage, Obama toured Africa, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. He spoke forcefully against ethnic rivalries and political corruption in Kenya.
Honest Leadership and Open Government Act
In the first month of the 110th Congress, Obama worked with Sen. Russ Feingold to pass this law, which amends and strengthens the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.
Specificially, the changes made by Obama and Feingold requires public disclosure of lobbying activity and funding, places more restrictions on gifts for members of Congress and their staff, and provides for mandatory disclosure of earmarks in expenditure bills.
The House passed the bill, 411-8, on July 31. The Senate approved it, 83-14, on Aug. 2. At the time, Obama called it “the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate.”
Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
Following the Republican-sponsored voter intimidation tactics seen in mostly black counties in Maryland during the 2006 midterm elections, Obama worked with Sen. Chuck Schumer to introduce this bill.
The bill has been referred to the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Obama said of the bill, “This legislation would ensure that for the first time, these incidents are fully investigated and that those found guilty are punished.”
The Obama-McCain Climate Change Reduction Bill
The Obama-McCain bill, which is co-sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., would cut emissions by two-thirds by 2050.
Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007
Introduced by Obama, this binding act would stop the planned troop increase of 21,500 in Iraq, and would also begin a phased redeployment of troops from Iraq with the goal of removing all combat forces.
Amendments to the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill
Obama worked with Sen. Kit Bond to limit, through this bill, the Pentagon’s use of personality disorder discharges in the FY 2008 Defense Authorization bill.
“With thousands of American service members suffering day in and day out from the less visible wounds of war, reports that the Pentagon has improperly diagnosed and discharged service members with personality disorders are deeply disturbing,” said Senator Obama. “This provision will add additional safeguards to the Department of Defense’s use of this discharge and mandate a comprehensive review of these policies.”
The Comprehensive Nuclear Threat Reduction provision
Working with Sen. Hagel and Rep. Adam Schiff, Obama authored this provision, which would require the president to develop a comprehensive plan for ensuring that all nuclear weapons and weapons-usable material at vulnerable sites around the world are secure by 2012 from the threats that terrorists have shown they can pose.
A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.
I’m not talking about as a senator. Because, let’s face it - it was all about how it wud look to voters and nothing more.
Furthermore, any nimrod can cut and paste. Barf.
Where’s the beef? What did he do BEFORE he was a senator that was for others (since, you know, that’s what being a Dem is all about - service)?
Name me that.
I’m not talking about as a senator. Because, let’s face it - it was all about how it wud look to voters and nothing more.
Furthermore, any nimrod can cut and paste. Barf.
Where’s the beef? What did he do BEFORE he was a senator that was for others (since, you know, that’s what being a Dem is all about - service)?
Name me that.
Something that did NOT somehow benefit him.
February 6, 2006
The Honorable Barack Obama
United States Senate
SH-713
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator Obama:
I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.
As you know, the Majority Leader has asked Chairman Collins to hold hearings and mark up a bill for floor consideration in early March. I fully support such timely action and I am confident that, together with Senator Lieberman, the Committee on Governmental Affairs will report out a meaningful, bipartisan bill.
You commented in your letter about my “interest in creating a task force to further study” this issue, as if to suggest I support delaying the consideration of much-needed reforms rather than allowing the committees of jurisdiction to hold hearings on the matter. Nothing could be further from the truth. The timely findings of a bipartisan working group could be very helpful to the committee in formulating legislation that will be reported to the full Senate. Since you are new to the Senate, you may not be aware of the fact that I have always supported fully the regular committee and legislative process in the Senate, and routinely urge Committee Chairmen to hold hearings on important issues. In fact, I urged Senator Collins to schedule a hearing upon the Senate’s return in January.
Furthermore, I have consistently maintained that any lobbying reform proposal be bipartisan. The bill Senators Joe Lieberman and Bill Nelson and I have introduced is evidence of that commitment as is my insistence that members of both parties be included in meetings to develop the legislation that will ultimately be considered on the Senate floor. As I explained in a recent letter to Senator Reid, and have publicly said many times, the American people do not see this as just a Republican problem or just a Democratic problem. They see it as yet another run-of-the-mill Washington scandal, and they expect it will generate just another round of partisan gamesmanship and posturing. Senator Lieberman and I, and many other members of this body, hope to exceed the public’s low expectations. We view this as an opportunity to bring transparency and accountability to the Congress, and, most importantly, to show the public that both parties will work together to address our failings.
As I noted, I initially believed you shared that goal. But I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party’s effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman Senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness. Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn’t always a priority for every one of us. Good luck to you, Senator.
Sincerely,
John McCain
United States Senate
hilldemgoneindie, I wanted to say all that, but all I can say is
“”"”"D I T TO “”"”"
GOES FOR ME TOO!!
I’m not going to come around and those leaders in the party who keep saying that I will are sadly mistaken. And the more they say it, the more convicted I become.
I hate what’s happened in this primary. I may never vote for a democrat again in my life.
I have searched my conscience over and over again with great depth and feeling and I cannot go against my better judgment. It is impossible for me to support Obama. His treatment of Hillary Clinton, his caucus strong arming, his disregard for the voters of both Michigan and Florida and his blatant sexism are all issues that I cannot forget or forgive. If he is elected, I will never call him my president. He is undeserving of said office.
There is also the matter of his wife, a woman greatly distasteful to me whom I find excruciatingly impalatable.
I stopped watching TV news and cable programs awhile ago. But today, I checked in. The NewsHour on PBS spent a quarter of the hour on Wimbledon, I saw a Jon Benet Ramsey update on CNN and a segment on Alex Rodriguez divorce on FOX, I will not even check MSNBC. Its no wonder the DNC has stuck us with an American Idol candidate. Recently, I heard there was a feature on Obama’s kids with Access Hollywood. Where’s Obama’s birth Certificate? Where’s Obama’s racist, typical white grandma? When is Vanity Fair gonna do an article on Larry Sinclair attributed to unnamed sources like they did on Bill Clinton?
PuppyDogMom… I may never vote for a democrat again in my life.
ain’t that the truth. in the year we should have destroyed the republican party… in the year we should have and could have elected not only the first woman candidate, but the first effective democrat since fdr (i don’t add wjc because he undid himself overall with his poor judgment w/monica. no, i don’t care what happens between adults in or out of their marriage - it’s a private matter. his poor judgment in that he KNEW he was being scrutinized beyond the pale and yet…). in the year we would finally get a president who not only “gets” women issues, she LIVES women’s issues… in the year we’d finally get a president who believes in uhc.
oh i could go on and on but it’s so depressing to me. because we “lost?” no. because i’m a woman and have finally realized after the treatment of hillary and women in general in the primary, despite the faux achievements of the women’s movement of which i am a recipient, that i and all other women are in fact, as john lennon so aptly stated, the “niggers of the world.” and before the crazy obamabots go insane with charges of racism i say, go on with your bad selves - you will only show how STUPID you are.
the way in which people were and are allowed to demean and degrade hillary and women on the news, in the blogs, on the streets, in the workplace with wanton abandon really shocked me. here, all these years i thought women were making strides for equality the obama “movement” made it very clear that we have been duped and tricked all these years. that 51 or 52% of the female population is FAR less important that 15% of an aa voting block - that the color of one’s skin is more important than one’s gender when in fact, they shouldn’t matter. that whatever “equality” we thought we had was merely a placebo or better yet, a valium to keep us anesthetized while the male dominated world winked in solidarity at how they have been bamboozling us. of course i realize so many men are just as angry at the misogyny as are women, but no matter how deeply they feel, they can never know what we know. as empathetic as many men are, they can never feel the betrayal, the loss, the deep and utter pain of knowing we really are nothing in the eyes of most of the world.
i’ve read what’s happening in africa against women - everyday. the horror that they face just because they are women. i’ve read about women in muslim societies and the horrors they face everyday because they are women. i know about the fate of the women in bosnia. i know how china treats girl babies. i could go on and on, but i thought, i believed that in america we were different. fortunate or not, i’ve believe since i was a child that i was every bit as good as a boy, and as a young woman i walked away from the church because it said i wasn’t. my mom fought sexism in a male-dominated international corporation and was one of the first members of n.o.w. - for her, and for me. we thought things had changed, were changing, that the days of being mere chattel of men were over. and while things have of course changed because of laws (promoted by the democratic party), the underlying sentiment of hating the female has obviously remained.
how on earth is it possible to think otherwise based on the disgusting vitriol that spews forth still against hillary and the women who still support her?
this primary has changed me more than i want to admit. to realize, given the unbelievable rhetoric spewed forth against hillary and her female supporters, that as a natural born woman i am no more than trash, a piece of shit, someone to spit on, and yes, even a hole to be raped is more than i can take.
so… to think that we could have had it all - or closer to it all than in my lifetime - we get obama shoved on us. a fake and the most unqualified person since gwb by the party that is supposed to be the superior party in that it doesn’t cheat, counts all votes, accepts people of all colors, ages, genders, religions or lack thereof, and financial status.
so no, no more dems for me unless i know they supported and continue to support hillary. period. end of story.
UGH. could someone please, please wake me from this nightmare?
Applause! Applause!
DAmn GF! I rarely like to read long rants but YOURS was RIGHT ON!!! It was like you were IN MY HEAD!
That is why SOME of us who share this cosmic universal feeling will NOT let it be OVER!!!
NOT while we all still have a MEMORY!
I almost bought a bumper sticker that said
We’ll Remember Come November
changed my mind when I thought about how OUT OF DATE it would be almost immediately
but I will remember! LONGER than NOVEMBER!
I too love this rant. And I do not mean rant in a negative way. As Dawnell said you are saying what I also think and feel. I was especially touched by what you said about your mother being in one of the first members of NOW. There’s a sense from what you write that she did it for you, her daughter as well as herself and women in general. I feel that way now. As a PUMA. I want to fight for my daughters. I have been called names by obambullies and told that if I didn’t vote Obama, my daughters would end up dead from a back alley abortion. I am much more worried that my daughters will be the victims of sexism and misogyny. They are more likely to be abused emotionally, physically or victims of sexual harassment than to need a back alley abortion. But what I admire the most about what you said, is…it’s real.
I think instead of saying merci beaucoup, Obama should have said quanta costa! For that is what we all will be saying if he gets elected.
Vanity Fair has been pushing anti-Clinton, pro-Obama crap for the past 6 months. One of the editors is the now deceased Tim Russert’s wife. There are women misogynists as disgusting as sexist men. Like Andrea Mitchell, Maureen Dowd, Nancy Pelosi, Brazille,yes there will be a special place in hell for these soulless craetures.
The Obama people can be in denial all they want suggesting that NQ and other sites are covers for McCain.
Sorry, we WERE lifelong Democrats who have just witnessed the takeover of the Democratic Party by the sleaziest politician ever and his henchmen.
Us “bible clinging” Democrats are asking for a miracle, if a preacher can pray at the gas stations for lower gas prices we can form prayer groups asking for a miracle to oust the creepy Obama and give the nomination the best, most qualified candidate-Hillary Clinton.
Yes, we were all darn more Democratic than Oprah. Turned out she’s never even voted in a primary.
The Women Misogynists, you are right, are out there promoting this Sexist Manchurian candidate, the Obambi of Sharia Law for Kenyan women. He donated money and actively campaigned for his murderous islamofascist cousin Odinga who has brought in Sharia Law.
Between Barack and Johnny McCave women have no choice but to vote for:
Cynthia McKinney for President ‘08
NOBAMA ‘08
PUMAS, LET ‘EM HEAR YOU ROAR
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
P.S. McCAIN FREAKS AND OBAMATHUGS — GET OFF THIS SITE!!!!GET LOST, CREEPY FASCIST/MARXISTS!!THIS IS A HILLARY SITE.
I missed out on contributing the $5.44 to McCain’s campaign on the 4th of July but did so last night.
When it asked who referred me to the site, I wrote PUMA!
I’m curious if we’ll find out how much he has raised in the .44 contributions.
Someone should create a PUMAs for McCain sign/sticker. The proceeds could go to paying down Hillary’s debt.
I hope that my Rep is listening and reading this blog, because I personally have something to say to that turncoat. REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D), FLORIDA, we voted for you, we struggled and march for you , here in our great State of Florida. We watched as the Republican Adminstration went to the Supreme Court and “selected” President Bush, and we were in tears and in misery for many years. But, we got over it! This we will not, and if you value your position here in Florida, don’t make us do a crusade because as you have noticed, they are mean and spirited. Because we will gather as many Judeo-Christians in the State of Florida and make sure that your name will never appear in any ballot in the future. And, that my representative is not a threat but a promise! I will ask you directly, Debbie, what has been the greater emphasis in your life- cursing the darkness or lighting the candles. Because the way this old soldier see it, you are speaking through both sides of your mouth I can tell you that when I say my prayers tonight, I will ask our G-D to give you a good painful rod of paddles on your backside for thinking we can “just get over it”. As the golden girl would say “Shame on you, Debbie, Shame on you.!
Be forewarned!
BO is a flip-flopper. You never know his real position on issues. It is like rolling dice. You never know what you will get.
BO = Risk! Risk!
Help spread the word.
There’s trouble in RiverCity…yes yes yes…
Seems that Jesse Jackson Sr. had a “slip of the tongue’ which made it on air about our favorite, oh wholy one. And castration was the choice of hurt, placed on him.
they were trying to put a spin on it, by saying that it was taken out of context, oh really!!
The fact is, there’s a “rift” between the generations of the African Americans. The older generation is quite upset with the way the younger generations is running this campaign. Rev Jacksons own son ragged on his father for saying what he said, and asked him to keep his thoughts to himself!
Oh yah…just keep on talking BO…and keep moving tothe right, cause you’ve already passed the center!1
I loved Forester’s comment, “frankly I don’t like him”… and that is exactly the point. What I cannot understand are people like Wasserman who continue to make these inane comments, that we should not blame Obama. Why not? He and his supporters dumped on Clinton for every preceived racist comment uttered. And wasn’t he the one who dismissively said, “your likeable enough” or “when Senator Clinton is feeling down, she slashes out” or not once, not twice, but three times said he bit his tongue several times during the campaign. What a stand up guy! I wonder if he was “biting his tongue” when she endorsed him? “…he just needs to show us some love”. GAG ME!! That is the last thing I want. When are people like Wasserman and alike going to understand what it is we are saying, READ OUR LIPS…NO OBAMA NO MATTER WHAT. There is nothing this man can do to make me change my mind and I would suspect that goes for a lot of us. Nothing. Nothing. I do not like him. I am sick of him, I sick of Michelle, I am sick of Pelosi, I am sick of Reid, I am sick of Dean, and Kerry and the Kennedy’s, of Brazille, and the DNC. I am sick of what is passing for the Democrat party.
Go…go on and jump off this cliff if you want. Just because your a glutton for abuse, doesn’t mean I have to be also.
A previous post features a link to an article entitled:
“Larry Sinclair, Obama’s Bad Penny” …
… speaking of bad pennies, check out the new currency design for 2009:
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_penny_button-145308767898507893
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST FLIP-FLOPPER AND MOVE.ORG HATES HIS GUTS FOR BEING A TRAITOR!!
OBAMA YOU BETRAYED MOVE.ORG
OBAMA YOU BETRAYED FISA POLICY YOU PROMISED…
OBAMA - YOU FLIP-FLOPPED ON IRAQ
OBAMA - YOU FLIP-FLOPED THE CONSITUTION WITH YOUR
BUSH-LIKE FAITH BASED INITIATIVES**
OBAMA - YOU BETRAYED WOMEN VOTERS WITH YOUR MENTAL HEALTH ANTI-ABORTION STAND!
OBAMA - YOU BETRAYED THE AMERICAN CONSITUTION’S DIVISION OF STATE AND RELIGION!!
OBAMA YOU ARE LIKE YOUR REV. WRIGHT SAID:
YOU’RE JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL POLITICIAN……
SHAME ON YOU!
LARRY JOHNSON:
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A SANE FORUM FOR INTELLIGENT WOMEN WHO CARE FOR THE FUTURE OF THEIR DAUGHTERS AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WANT A RAPPER-THUGSTER-PRESIDENT WHO SUPPORTS SHARIA LAW CANDIDATES IN KENYA!
WITH OBAMBI’S ANTI-ABORTION FLIP-FLOP, HE SHOULD GO BACK TO KENYA AND WORK WITH HIS COUSIN ODINGA TO PROMOTE SHARIA LAW…JUST DON’T BRING ANY BURQAS BACK HOME FOR MICHELE!
HILLARY DIANE RODHAM-CLINTON***THE ONLY CHOICE FOR SANE AMERICANS**
Debbie Wasserman,
What is the meaning of ‘wooing’ of Pumas by Obamam?
Surely, you know by now that PUMAS ARE NOT ‘WOOABLE’….you sure haven’t come such a long way to understanding why Obama is the sexist he is!
Debbie, you’ll see the Light in November when the 18 million cracks will shatter the DNC Ceiling…..
PUMAS ARE NOT CONNED NOR WOOED BY CHICAGO THUGSTERS!
HEAR US ROAR! judgment Day November! When the Obama thugs will pay for their Sexist sins….You can’t bash women at caucuses; you can’t bash women at rallies; you can’t bash women.period. And tell NoBama to EAT ARUGULA!
THANKS, LYNN FORESTER!
You are a woman of integrity and prinipled courage. Of course, and a Hillary supporter. Hold on to your money for Obama is an empty suit about to be folded to size! He has degraded and diminished women everywhere with his unprincipled misogynist campaign and should not be rewarded for his ultra-sexist statements ‘her claws are comin out” “periodically she gets feeling low and attacks…” and his disgustingly insulting youtube video:
“Obama Gives HIllary the Finger” –he acts like a rapper thugster scraping Hill. off his shoes and dusting her off his shoulder while “flip-offing” her. He should have been disqualified on the spot!
What an unqualified absolutely juvenile jerk.
HILLARY, WHERE ARE YOU, NOW THAT WE NEED YOU!!!
WE MISS YOUR COURAGE.
WE MISS YOUR INTELLIGENCE.
WE MISS YOUR RESILIENCE.
WE MISS YOUR TOUGHNESS.
WE MISS YOUR COMPASSION.
WE MISS YOUR STEADINESS.
WE MISS YOUR POLICIES.
WE MISS YOUR SPEECHES.
WE MISS YOUR BILL.
WE MISS YOUR CHELSEA.
WE MISS YOUR GUTS.
MOST OF ALL,
WE MISS HILLARY!
LOVE
The male, female, straight, gay, transgendered and all the rest of your wild, wonderful jungle-roaring…
PUMAS.
xxx
Hillary SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you Hillbot supporters, you say, you won’t “forgive” the “abuse”??
Abuse???? What, did Obama’s supporters kidnap you and take you to a concentration camp?? Beat you up there?? NO??? Well, then SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DON”T KNOW what real “ABUSE” is!!!!!!!!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’M A PROUD FUCKING MISOGYNIST,and proud of it, due to BITCHES LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take your so-called “sexist, “Misogynist”, comments and SHOVE THEM SO FAR UP your GODDAMN CUNT, that you CHOKE ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU Misandrist BITCH!!!!!!! GODDAMN YOU!!!!!!! GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!
SHOVE YOUR WAR-MONGERING HILLARY, and WAR-mongering MCCAIN, and shove it up your hypocritical FAT ASSES!!!!!!!!!! SUCK MY FUCKING COCK STUPID BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET LOST “uppity” “Up” yourS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RAGWEthiS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GODDAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU have reached a NEW LOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPARING Clinton supporters to battered spouses is an outrage to real battered spouses!!!!!!!! YOU”RE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quoting Obama’s line, “You’re likeable enough Hillary”??? He was paying her a compliment dipshits! Hillary isn’t That likeable. DAMN. You unhinged morons with give us MCcain!! UP YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!