Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the FISA Amendments Act of 2008
By SusanUnPC on July 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM in Barack Obama, FISA, Hillary Clinton
(I would provide you with the statement of Sen. Barack Obama, but there is none. The last press release on his Senate Web site is dated June 24, 2008.)
on the FISA Amendments Act of 2008
One of the great challenges before us as a nation is remaining steadfast in our fight against terrorism while preserving our commitment to the rule of law and individual liberty. As a senator from New York on September 11, I understand the importance of taking any and all necessary steps to protect our nation from those who would do us harm. I believe strongly that we must modernize our surveillance laws in order to provide intelligence professionals the tools needed to fight terrorism and make our country more secure. However, any surveillance program must contain safeguards to protect the rights of Americans against abuse, and to preserve clear lines of oversight and accountability over this administration. I applaud the efforts of my colleagues who negotiated this legislation, and I respect my colleagues who reached a different conclusion on today’s vote. I do so because this is a difficult issue. Nonetheless, I could not vote for the legislation in its current form.
The legislation would overhaul the law that governs the administration’s surveillance activities. Some of the legislation’s provisions place guidelines and restrictions on the operational details of the surveillance activities, others increase judicial and legislative oversight of those activities, and still others relate to immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in the administration’s surveillance activities.
While this legislation does strengthen oversight of the administration’s surveillance activities over previous drafts, in many respects, the oversight in the bill continues to come up short. For instance, while the bill nominally calls for increased oversight by the FISA Court, its ability to serve as a meaningful check on the President’s power is debatable. The clearest example of this is the limited power given to the FISA Court to review the government’s targeting and minimization procedures.
But the legislation has other significant shortcomings. The legislation makes no meaningful change to the immunity provisions. There is little disagreement that the legislation effectively grants retroactive immunity to the telecommunications companies. In my judgment, immunity under these circumstances has the practical effect of shutting down a critical avenue for holding the administration accountable for its conduct. It is precisely why I have supported efforts in the Senate to strip the bill of these provisions, both today and during previous debates on this subject. Unfortunately, these efforts have been unsuccessful.
What is more, even as we considered this legislation, the administration refused to allow the overwhelming majority of Senators to examine the warrantless wiretapping program. This made it exceedingly difficult for those Senators who are not on the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees to assess the need for the operational details of the legislation, and whether greater protections are necessary. The same can be said for an assessment of the telecom immunity provisions. On an issue of such tremendous importance to our citizens – and in particular to New Yorkers – all Senators should have been entitled to receive briefings that would have enabled them to make an informed decision about the merits of this legislation. I cannot support this legislation when we know neither the nature of the surveillance activities authorized nor the role played by telecommunications companies granted immunity.
Congress must vigorously check and balance the president even in the face of dangerous enemies and at a time of war. That is what sets us apart. And that is what is vital to ensuring that any tool designed to protect us is used – and used within the law – for that purpose and that purpose alone. I believe my responsibility requires that I vote against this compromise, and I will continue to pursue reforms that will improve our ability to collect intelligence in our efforts to combat terror and to oversee that authority in Congress.
Click here for Senator Clinton’s December 17, 2007 statement on the FISA Amendments Act of 2007.
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
Hillary..she understands..she defends the Constitution..and by doing that..defends ALL Americans.
She remains the BEST ONE
Three cheers for Hillary voting no on FISA!!!
…….. and BOO to Obambi.
In regards to Rev. Jackson, lol too funny.
That is not the Jesse Jackson that I knew ….
What comments did he actually make?
I can’t find it written anywhere..only that he made remarks??
HILLARY WE LOVE YOU!!
WE TRUST YOU!!
WE WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!!!
Ditto …
Off topic, Breaking news … Jesse Jackson caught on video dissing BOBO watch the No Spin Zone with O at 8pm EST.
CAN’T WAIT!! I saw a snippet of it!
what an idiot gets caught off guard like that? Oh yea BHO did and we found out we were “BITTER”
Now get back in the race, Sen. Clinton. You’ve got a hundred thousand volunteers ready to sign you up as an Independent in 50 states. And if there was ever a year to run as an Indpendent, it’s this year. If you’re not on the ballot in November, the planet loses, the federal government will go broke, and there won’t be any Congress by 2012. I’m here in California and everyday we’re just smoking and burning. You said you were going to fix all this in your campaign speeches. You had great ideas. You said we were going to take back our country. So why the heck are you so concerned about what the Undemocratic Party thinks of you? Obama is the Trojan horse the G.O.P. is using to take it over. And the whole gang is just sitting there watching them do it. With friends like that…
Regardless of whether Hillary had any ulterior motives for this (and she was for this before she was against it) it does not matter. She voted the right way. Obama, although explaining how he would vote last week, did not. I do not accept the explanation. This is bad law and hopefully the Suprement Court will strike it out.
Retrospective legislation can never be right in a democracy.
Sod the TelCo sponsorship, it is not needed.
Sod fearing that the likes of the Repugs and the fronts they run. Voting for this will not stop them saying Dems are soft on terror. So instead they should have fought back. Repugs are wrong on the Constitution. To paraphrase, do not trade liberty for security or you will lose both
Way to Go Hillary!!!
It sucks that so many Dems are still to cowardly to do the right thing, but thank you and to the other Senators who stood up for us today!
Sound analysis…..as always.
Dear Obama,
I would like to apologize in advance for my actions over the last forty three years.
First… Let’s face it I’m “white” I’m sure at some point I may say something that makes that obvious.
Second of all…… I have been known to put my hand over my heart
during the national anthem(I should have sangwho knew?).
Third ……I should have cussed in church, but I knew mom would have had my butt, Oh yeah and it is totally wrong,
Fourth …….. If I knew I could condemn somebody else and been elected president I’d be trying myself.
Fifth……….I should have known that because of my rich white American government there was no need for me to be unemployed/drug addicted/divorced/recovered/single/father who spent the last three years struggling to survive as owner of a small business.”I could have just asked the old us of kkk for help”, Darn it! I guess I was too busy with that aids virus job I had in the eighties. And man was it hard for me to convince that Osama guy to bomb the world trade center. Oh well I have no excuse I was just a busy guy.
Sixth……Why didn’t I buy my first house with a chicago slum lord? Look at how much money I could have saved from a simple boneheaded move, sometimes I think I’m too smart to be president?
Seventh…….Nobody ever called > me a n*%$#r and I apologize for that most of all, But HEY! most of the other bad words I’ve heard. Do I get at least partial credit?
Eighth…….If my grandmother who loved me and cooked the best coconut creme pie in alabama ever uttered a racial slur then, I might prefer to keep it to myself, but, if I ever want to be president bad enough I’ll keep throwing her under the bus in mind.
Ninth…….I’ve always been proud of my country, oh well? Maybe I should have waited till you ran for president.
And Tenth……..OOP’S! I may have to not vote for you on election day. But don’t disown me I’m not your crazy uncle but I may qualify as your long lost crazy white redneck cousin. Just think it over and get back to me with a pretty speech.
(A Message from the author;)
I strongly condemn my own remarks and hereby fire myself from my own campaign, I may have heard my own comments while writing this letter but I didn’t agree with it and therefore I intend not to disown myself because of my long relationship with myself. Heck it would be like disowning my old crazy uncle. I also intend to condemn and fire anyone who happens to agree with aforementioned statements.
If all else fails I may have to speak in nonsensical slogans for about eight months, or make a speech. At no time do I plan to offer any real solutions, or offer any experience, or give anyone any clue about who I really am.
LOL! Good post Sad but apologetic.
GO HILLARY!!!! (Is there still time?)
OMG…LMAO…very good!!
ROFLOL! OHH HOHOHO THATS FUNNNNY!
LOVE THIS COMMENT, escpecially the disclaimer at the bottom
HELL YEAH! The Chickens are fucking coming home to roost!! Jesse Jackson threw obama ass under the bus!! Ha ha ha! The words are so bad CNN wont even report the words! “Hot Mike”
Drudge says Fox will play the tape tonight on Billo.
ABC NEWS is calling it
…a CRUDE and disparaging remark.
It apparently had to do with the TEARING OFF OF GENITALIA!!!
Oh, my!
Apparently unaware of a hot microphone, Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Sr., founder and president of the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, made a crude and disparaging remark along the lines of wanting to rip Obama’s genitals off in reference to how Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., might be alienating African-Americans with various moral instructions.
But here’s the FUNNIEST PART of all this–Jesse’s SON, sitting pretty in his cushy BO job, no doubt collecting a fat salary (thanks to those sucker kids sending in their pot and pizza money) and praying for a Cabinet appointment, has just frantically THROWN HIS OWN DADDY UNDER THE BUS!!!!!! No “Dreams of My Father” for JUNIOR…unless he’s dreaming of Big Jess pancaked under the Trailways Express!!!!
I love it when people tell the truth!! The truth will set you free, after all! Right on, Jesse!!
And JUNIOR had maybe better lay off on using words like “tearing” when Daddy was just talking about ripping off Little Lord Fauntleroy’s DICK!
This is funny as hell!!!!!!
If you WROTE this as fiction, NO ONE would believe it.
I can’t believe the idiot released a statement like that. You’re right. You just can’t make this shit up.
This is so frigging funny, Larry needs to make it its own topic.
Talk about the gift that keeps on giving! Those snarkers at Daily Show/Colbert had better have a field day with this…along with Leno, Letterman, O’Brien and the rest of the usual suspects.
It’s got everything–anger, genitals, honesty, a tough daddy, a craven and pandering child, an ineffectual, whiny, lecturing wuss of a candidate who deserves to be deballed…it’s a soap opera!!!
I LOVE IT!
LOVE IT
LOVE IT
LOVE IT
Hypocrites…chickens coming home to roost…along with pigeons, and parrots, and racebaiting talking points.
Wow, Jackson Jr, sided with a total stranger over his own father??!!! Yep, typical Obama supporter. I’m hoping Larry gets a video.
Didn’t the Children of the 3rd Reich throw their parents under Hitler’s bus?
GREAT shining example of family unity!
The Hitler Youth may have thought they were throwing everyone under the bus
Hitler and other totalitarian regimes have another purpose for those Koolaid youths
The Military as in Drafted.
I would rather be thrown under the bus,kicked to the curb than be drafted into under fascist socialism
Everyone under 35 are you listening??
Get out your history books Obamabots.
Service under Obama equals Drafted
.
DAD SHUT UP! we’re bamboozling can you see?
JJ; Jr you need to show more respect to your daddy!
Truly tis not been a good day for the messiah.
Me thinks it shall only grow worser still.
At which I shall be over joyed! ^_^
and thanks for my laugh of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Fox news, Jesse Threatened to cut off a part of his anatomy LOL!
Finally learning from the past of NOT READING what they voted on and the need to read everything that you sign. She’s aware.
WOW — a well reasoned position on a significant vote.
Thank you Senator Clinton — I did not realize that the bush administration has still not given details to the Senators and that most were voting blind — not knowing exactly what they were approving.
On an issue of such tremendous importance to our citizens – and in particular to New Yorkers – all Senators should have been entitled to receive briefings that would have enabled them to make an informed decision about the merits of this legislation. I cannot support this legislation when we know neither the nature of the surveillance activities authorized nor the role played by telecommunications companies granted immunity.
Isn’t that frightening? They don’t bloody know what they are voting for!
What Hillary is saying here is Obama trusts what the Bush administration says about surveillance.
OUCH!!!! Suck on that one Barky trolls. Barky trusts Bush, Hillary doesn’t.
So they were voting without knowing what the surveillance activities would be or what the telecom companies actually did?!! This entire government has become a farce, and the spineless Dems are completely complicit. Hillary has to show them what strength looks like–again.
Yes! Jesse Jackson said it right…I am tired of people thinking my vote belongs to one person based on color and talking down like we dont care about the damn issues.
I really miss her. The DP has sold their souls. Tsk tsk.
Thank you, Senator Hillary Clinton. You are more dear and important to this country than anyone has truly realized. You must support your name being put in nomination at the Convention; you must sign the petition signed by delegates from various states that will be given to the Chair of the Convention. The United States needs you, the Constitution needs you, and we need you.
Amen to THAT!!
I say she says F the DP and run independent.
She could win and I think it would be big! That would show both the RNC and DNC! A twofer!
Please, Hillary, Please!!!!
Fox has the tape and will air it tonight.
Hannity intimated that Jackson says he wants to “rip Obama’s nuts off” on the tape. Hannity would not say “nuts,” but based on his description (portion of the male anatomy beginning with an “n”) I believe that’s the word he was going for.
Hmmmmmm…….. this ‘rippingout/off thing is prevalent
with the BO’s.
Meesh wants to ‘rip BC’s eyes out.’
nice icon!
Thank you Hillary for standing up for the Constitution!
You are a true American hero.
No voters remorse here:-) Hillary is still the one.
Thank you Hillary!
NOBAMA!
Update the Jackson remarks
One blog, citing Fox News’s Sean Hannity as a source, reported that Jackson slammed Obama for “talking down [to] black people on matters of faith.” Hannity also suggested that Jackson said he wants to “rip Obama’s nuts off” on the tape.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
I think there are plenty of high profile blacks who feel the same way or worse towards the messiah, but are just too damn scared to come out and say it, for fear of the black lash.
But I bet in private JJ will be receiving mucho accolades for his remarks.
I’m not really a supporter of JJ, but I AM with him on this one!
Today’s mis-statement may rank with Jesse Jackon’s no. 1 statement of all time; His Reading of Green Eggs and Ham on Saturday Night Live.
I guess it just takes 15 years for Jackson Sr. to mutter anything important. You know, in between extra-marital affairs.
Obama does not have any nuts to rip off.
Exactly what I was thinking
lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng chuckle
No. They are located in a special pouch in Michelle’s purse and subjected to voodoo torture regularly.
Best. Comment. Ever.
I am tired of people looking at me assuming I am voting a certain way. What people dont realize is that there are those that treat people real crappy when they naturally “assume” you are voting for Obama because your black.The MSM has us painted as blind sheep playing follow the leader. But who wouldnt think that when thats ALL you hear in the media?
No one never looks at it the other way around in the media on how it actually affects the community. Senator Obama has set race relations back and it will be a while before anyone feel comfortable with other AAs running in high positions because they will remember how an entire primary was won by using “your racist” as strategy to the extent the pundits and commentators began calling entire STATES racist because they didnt vote for him.
They might not remember there actions, but there words in audio and video will be there to remind them
I know exactly how you feel. I don’t like people looking at me and assuming oh I must be for that black guy.
Really for the first time, I had wished I could just dissociate myself from my race, because I didn’t want to be linked to him, and those supporting him.
I hear ya P. This is horrible.
I can wear my Hillary buttons to Trader Joes market where the elite shop and see Obama stickers on cars and get stared down in the store. How did we ever get here? This election is like no other where people act like you owe them your vote. I mean other voters expect you to vote a certain way. I’m in Oregon so I feel your pain. It’s not safe here to be a Hillary supporter but my sign is still up.
I’m ready to blast anyone who says anything to me.
Patsy and Lou,
I am in Oregon also and most of my family voted for Barry. We rarely talk any more and never about politics. I used to chat with my sister all the time but now it feels too unsafe. I don’t think that many/any of them have even acknowledged the misogynistic/sexist behavior of the media and the DNC. If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination in Denver I hope Oregon will go for McCain, but who knows. My county had the highest vote for Barry in the state and that’s really disgusting and scary to me. You wouldn’t think that so many educated people could be so damned stupid!
We’ve got an awful lot of gutless wonders in Congress don’t we? All this time they have been voting for something and didn’t even know what the fuck they were voting for?? There is no damn way I would endorse something unless I knew exactly what it was for. Maybe if they all got off of their elitist, pompus asses and stayed in session more instead of taking vacations they could actually do something productive like READING.
Hillary proves once again that she is for US, for this country, that she knows the importance of our constitution and to hold onto all of this for dear life. I AM SO DAMN PROUD OF HER!!
I read the fine print — and it blows me away that the bushies are still not telling what exactly they were up while spying on AMERICANS.
bush is still in the white house and he is still a LIAR —
we do not need another LIAR in the white house.
PUMA — or be stupid.
WOW! What a breath of fresh air. How much contrast is that from the dribble that spews from Obama’s mouth? It’s a crying shame that Hillary is not President.
West coster here going to tune into airhead america radio and see how Randi Rhoades will be ranting and trying to cover up for Obama and FISA. It’ll be naueating as I need patience listening to her repeat her nonsense a million times and say absolutely nothing.
She’s a perfect match for BOBO.
Hillary in August. Nothing less. Period.
Psst! Superdelegates! Save our Constitution and pick a winner…
God what I could say and the stories about Blackwater..i will plead the fifth on that one. Yeah he would like blackwater….
Soldier, have you had the pleasure of dealing with those assholes in Iraq yet? Hubby had a few run ins with those dickheads there.
Backwater — now that is a cuss word among the military.
Seems to me that I’ve heard nothing about American prisoners of war in Iraq. Could that be because of the way that the bush/cheney/rummy bunch ran this war that any American soldier capture is killed?
Of course the Americans torture thanks to Blackwater and other mercenaries.
Where are the American prisoners of war?
That would be BLACKWATER — not backwater.
Wasn’t Jessica Lynch a POW?
I would suppose this particular enemy is not particularly interested in keeping POWs. No matter who is running the show.
Go Hillary!
Senator CLINTON was the nominee that would FIGHT for Democratic principles, not the empty suit Republican-Lite, evangelical-pandering, pail of mush that YOU OBAMABOTS FORCED ON US.
WHO’S SORRY NOW, KOS???
I still believe Hillary can pull this off and win the nomination. I have never seen so many supporters turn so quickly on their *chosen one*. haha
Did you notice this Dodd quote on FISA?
“Lastly, I want to thank the thousands who joined with us in this fight around the country - those who took to the blogs, gathered signatures for online petitions and created a movement behind this issue. Men and women, young and old, who stood up, spoke out and gave us the strength to carry on this fight. Not one of them had to be involved, but each choose to become involved for one reason and one reason alone: Because they love their country. They remind us that the silent encroachments of those in power” Madison spoke of can, in fact, be heard, if only we listen.”
Dodd wants to thank all those who fought the bill. And they fought the bill for one reason - They love their country.
So, what does that say about Obama, who Dodd supports, and who voted FOR the bill?
I wrote a post today about Obama now throwing ALL of his supporters under the bus.
http://americaninitaly.blogspot.com/
“So, what does that say about Obama, who Dodd supports, and who voted FOR the bill?”
It says what we’ve all come to know. He will sacrafice anyone and any supposed cause he claims to care for, if it or they DARE to stand in his steadfast march to power. It is ALL about him!
I read comments on here how people felt he would be refacing Mt Rushmore if elected. But I disagree, that’s not NEARLY grand enough for the messiah. I think he’d want to carve out his image on the surface of the moon. That way he could look down on ALL the world, AND moon us at the same time!
hilarious! I can see it now. No doubt he has thought about it. ahah
It is also hilarious that Dodd considers those who oppose the FISA those who truly love America. That says a lot about what we have been saying about Obama all along….
(I just saw a snipit of Jesse and the hot mike clip on Brit Hume. can’t wait to see the whole thing!)
hey sara in italy!
hey! what up!? :OD
No silly. He is going to get rid of NASA so he can funnel all that money to Rev. Wright.
Greenwald:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/22/telecom_immunity/
I’m glad they maxed-out for her vanity project. Protectors of the Constitution (nee Shillary KADS) should be happy they didn’t get stuck with her as the nominee. Funny how easy it is to have a spine when you’re irrelevant. Stay strong, my little PUMA darlings.
You and Backtrack Barack just got punked. How about a fist bump buddy.
“She’ll [Gorelick] undoubtedly be a leading candidate for Attorney General in the next Clinton administration …”
Wow, it’s been awhile since Greenwald has given me such a lift!
LIsten fuckwad, why don’t you go read the ABA’s report on signing statements, and when you get to the part describing Bill Clinton’s take on perserving the Constitution even though it was going against his own preference, come back here and then proceed to even TALK about obamination’s failure to support Democratic principles with his vote on FISA, vs. Hillary’s NO VOTE…
So we can laugh at your support of a racebaiting, nonstarter.
Karma’s a BITCH.
piss off, troll
Anyone with the audio of Jesse saied about Obama…. ? Please post it….. I told you Obama is a fraud from the beginning .. Now people saying the truth……
GO Hillary……
Apparently FOX is the only one who has it. They of course are waiting for prime time to put it out. It’ll be on O’rielly and Hannity tonight.
Showed in at 6, open mike moment. BUT JESSIE DIDN’T MEAN IT “I LOVE BARKY”
Way to go Hillary!!!
Make way the real nominee!!!
Well one thing you dont see everyday and I already got a phone call from my aunt about it…never throw your father under the bus for a politician. I am soooo loving this, this is what they all deserve.
hee hee, me too.
Hell, Jesse can hang out with Obama’s racist white granny…she’s under that bus, too!
I guess all that scrimping and saving from her lousy two bedroom apartment, raising the future candidate, going without to get that kid through private school with all the trimmings wasn’t punishment enough!
Her victimization wasn’t complete until her grandchild called her a racist and stuffed her under those big wheels!
She and Jesse will have plenty to talk about….
do not feed the trolls who parrot Obamas stuttering nonsense.
Troll alert^Roadburdened
Troll alert-pass by the rope burned troll…do not respond.
Can’t handle Hillary criticism?
Roadburdened :
Can’t you read what this post is about? You are off topic. Wrong thread.
Now if you have nothing to say about todya’s vote on FISA: Beat it.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/hot-mike-catche.html (his son response is interesting) oh and Jesse jackson is on live now to apologize
Jesse Jackson Jr. is an idiot. He wants Obama’s Senate seat and will roll over his father to get it.
He’s not just an idiot is one of the worst kind of culties. He said they should add a new chapter to the bible to chronicle the messiah’s historic journey!
Someone please let me know when this ride is over so I can throwup!
That is the disturbing part. Jesse Jackson always speaks his mind so his comments about Obama don’t surprise me - glad we could hear what Jackson really thinks.
What bothers me is the apology. When is the last time anyone heard Jesse Jackson apologize for anything he believes? When you see the gesture he makes to punctuate what he’d like to do to Obama, you’ll see he means what he is saying.
What, or who, could make Jackson apologize? And what, or who, could make his own son talk about Jackson in the way he did?
This Obama interview is coming out on CNN tonight.
Holy shet. McCain doesn’t want him. McCain thinks he’s a joke.
Obama said that?????
OH MAN THINK ABOUT IT!!
Everything he suggests turns out to be the opposite!
How about if McCain were to ask HILLARY TO BE HIS VP and she accepted? And THEY won in a landslide?
Would KOS, etc start frothing at the mouth and run around furiously in circles until they passed out?
Might be worth a film at 11
Yes, I’ve been contemplating this scenario–McCain/Clinton– for a while, especially if Obama chooses Chuck Hegel as his VP>
Not that I was before, but I really won’t be losing any sleep over voting for McCain. Obama just gave the green light to all of us PUMAs.
What an asshole this guy is! He simply doesn’t know what to say.
McCain would never even consider Obama as a VP.
Obama did a flip flop on McCain — and McCain knows exactly what Obama’s core values are (none).
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/hillary_explains_vote_against.php
TPM has a good recap of this, and it is amusing to see people at MyDD trying to justify Obama’s “yes” vote.
thanks for the info, but I can’t go to mydd anymore…I am 4justice and won’t tolerate that injustice! but thanks for going and reporting!
It’s amusing only in that they fancy themselves liberals.
They never were. Nobody who was so vicious about Hillary in the unfair way that gang was is truly liberal.
Therefore, their support for FISA and Obama’s vote adds up to me.
Jesse Jackson just confirmed it….. Obama has no balls…. explains a lot about his flip-flops….. what sorry state of affairs for America. Hillary was right all along. This country is going backwards…….
Concluded Jackson:
Maybe he meant “privates” conversation.
oh no…LOL
That would make him Eunuch.
Obama says Iceland is a tiny country and is not a threat to the US. But tomorrow…….
You do not have to appologise to nobody because your are black. If you vote for Sen. Obama because you agreed and believed in him, you have nothing to be ashame of. If you voted for him simply becasue his “black” and you want to make history, then you have done a dis-service to yourself, your people and the country.
If you are an American, true American then you should vote for the candidate that is qualified, that will make a diffcult decision for the benefit of the whole country, even when do not agree with him.
Be the American that you are and be proud and follow what you believe in. Do not be a fellower, be a leader. Fellow your mind.
Mayjah drama, sweeties! MAYJAH!
According to new reports, Jesse Jackson didn’t realize a FOX NEWS mic was ‘on’ when he made some comments ‘critical’ of presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama.
Dayum!
Of all mics to say unguarded stuff into!!!!
Fox News plans to air Jackson’s ranting in full tonight, Wednesday, at 8pm EST.
Jackson must have said some explosive shit because he quickly spoke out in advance of the Fox News airing.
Oh no, Jesse is apologizing!
“This is a sound bite in a broader conversation about urban policy and racial disparities. I feel very distressed because I’m supportive of this campaign and with the senator, what he has done and is doing…I said he comes down as speaking down to black people. The moral message must be a much broader message. What we need really is racial justice and urban policy and jobs and health care. That’s a range of issues on the menu…Then I said something I regret was crude. It was very private. And very much a sound bite.”
Jackson reportedly did not want to elaborate on the context of his remarks, except to say he was trying to explain that Obama was hurting his relationship with black voters by recently conducting “moral” lectures at African-American churches.
How lovely…the house comes tumbling down!
it’s just a sound bite y’all, just like Naw Naw Naw, Not God bless America, GOD D*MN AMERICA! Can’t wait for the viewing on Fox News.
America is the greatest best nation that God has ever put on the face of the Earth.
-Sean Hannity
Wow. I can’t believe THIS is ALL Drudge HAS up! Every link is about Jesse Jackson and Obama’s lack of Rocky Mountain Oysters.
The big surprise this year!!
The Iraq war is won!!
McCain gave America a victory by advocating the surge when everyone was saying retreat and defeat.
Obama sat on his anti-American soft hands wishing defeat in Iraq.
McCain owns this phrase that will make him the President
Country before party/country before self
Get used to it Obamabots
Shame on you for wishing America’s defeat!!!!
According to the Drudge Report:
“JESSE JACKSON SLAMS OBAMA, WANTS TO ‘CUT HIS N**S OUT”
Speaks down to white people too, if i remember correctly.
oooooohhhhhhh I am loving jesse jackson style. Oh this shit is gotta be pissing off the obama campaign. God is it christmas in July?? If your watching this…there is something BIG he has NOT said. Oh it is on now..I am serious this is very very big for the AA community for what Jesse Jackson is saying right now..he has not refered to him as BEING the first “black” anything. He has just seperated Senator Barack Obama from the black community and this is NOT an exaggeration
What do you mean JJ separated BO from the black community?
translation, please.
yes please!
good. He’s only 6% AA. Let Jesse get the facts straight sooner or later. Obama doesn’t represent the AA’s. It’s a fantasy.
Yep……I agree. Jackson did, indeed, give AA voters an invitation to speak their opinions frankly about Obama and how they are being treated.
Long overdue, I say.
ABOUT TIME!!!
snObama is a white guy pretending to be black.
Not because he is bi-racial, or that his mother was white.
snObama was not raised in a black culture — not in the South, not in Chicago.
snObama grew up in an affluent multicultural community in Hawaii. And although Hawaii is a State — it is still so remote from the mainland that it is a culture unto itself.
snObama is only using the color of his skin to pass as black and he has built a myth of growing up in Kansas!!! I’ve heard so many Obamabutts make the claim that Obama grew up in Kansas that this must be a deliberate message from camp Obama.
I like Jesse Jackson Sr. — I’m glad he has told the truth, at last. Too bad he has to apologize.
PUMA
CNN cut off Jackson’s press conference because he was ramb’lin on and on, lol. Darn Jackson didn’t tell us what he said, lol. No worries though Jesse is black so he can say what he likes about Obambi with little backlash I’m sure. Sad.
Remember he won South Carolina.
Obama has divide the party, the people and now Families
The Great DIVIDER…..Obama Bush
Jesse Jackson is an American hero and a hero of all progressives around the world.
But I’m sure we’ll be hearing from Axelrove any minute now: Of course, this proves Jesse Jackson is a self-loathing racist. /snark
I’d appreciate a transcript of Jackson’s remarks, if someone could post it tonight or tomorrow.
Dialed-up people are utube challenged.
Will check out Hannity and Billeo tonight, for the very first time in my life.
Thanx.
Seriously, considering the fact this DID happen days ago, I swear it seems like they have choreographed the cards to come tumbling down all at once….well “Jesse, heard the whistle got the message loud and clear. Obama dont know anything about the aa community, thanx for the update on live television, I am sure everyone else will be following soon” I was already ahead of ya from day one!
I still don’t know what you mean about JJ separating Bo from the black community (wish you would explain) but i DO sense a coordination between the FISA flip-flop and the JJ comment leaking today.
Coincidence or another media distraction from the REAL issue?
whaddayathink?
Randi Rhoades says Hillary voted fro FISA. That’s how she’s handling this. Someone email her and tell her she’s lieing.
Why bother, Lou? She has no credibility.
Thank you Hillary for doing what was right and saying no to FISA. To bad the presumptive nominee does not have the “cajones” you have; but then we learned that during the primary season.
That sound you hear similar to microwave popcorn are hundreds of bots heads blowing up over at puffingtonhost.com
real freak show over there
Which article?
link please.
que?
Grouped By Vote Position YEAs —69
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
NAYs —28
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 3
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
Sessions (R-AL)
Thank you I was wondering who voted what.
you’re welcome
Now we know who is in the pockets of the telecom industry
NAYs —28
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)
OK, I’ll bite.
These are highlighted because?
Highlighted are some of Barack Hussein’s biggest supporters.
These men have no principles. If they did, a name I didn’t highlight would be the “presumptive” nominee right now.
Hmm… I don’t see Senator McCain’s name on the list, either. Not a single republican, for that matter.
I guess you can overlook FISA when you vote for McCain, although you can’t in Obama’s case. Apparently it’s damning when Obama votes for it, but not when McCain votes for it?
McCain did not vote on it. As such, your attempt at an insult simply demonstrates your intellectual deficits.
Further, many of us would not touch McCain with a 10 foot pole.
James get so emotional about these things.
Actually, that wasn’t an attempt at an insult. I was going for sarcasm. I’ll be careful to let you know when an actual affront is intended.
I hadn’t realized McCain had neglected to vote on the current FISA bill. Perhaps Obama should have passed on it too. That certainly would have been the politically expedient course.
so you post in bold when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Good to know.
Of course not. That would mean I would have to have known what I was saying was wrong before I said it, in which case I probably wouldn’t have.
The dark letters are intended to alert other Obamabots to the presence of hidden coded messages. They issue all of us secret decoder rings before they send us out into the field.
I visited Daily Kos to see how Obamaniacs are handling his vote, and surprise, surprise they are spinning, spinning defending him. He could not have made a difference, it would have lost anyway.
Others are saying, Hold on - don’t panic, yes we can over and over.
Sad for the stupid Obamaniacs - how naive can you be.
Comment on Jackson’s Fox oops. How is this a big surprise. I am telling you, go to Chicago and visit the horrible housing developments where Obama betrayed the AA community to fill the pockets of Rezko, Davis, and Butler. And, 2 blocks away he lives in a million dollar mansion. He is everything I have hated my entire life.
I will repeat, one of Clinton’s financial backers interviewed on TV today said. “I don’t like him.”
Actually, I detest him.
Wake up AA community - this guy has betrayed your community in the worse way.
All AA’s report to your posts . . . .under the bus with the rest of us non-french speaking bitter bible-toting gun-slinging arugala-phobic Americans.
you people crack me up…LOL
Oh and now Rando Rhoades is ranting about Jesse Helms funeral instead of Obama and his FISA vote.
She is stupid. She won’t even talk about FISA except that Hillary voted for it.
I’m shutting her off.
Someone should first set her straight, she is saying it would have passed anyway.Thats not true if all the Dems would have voted NO, it would have failed. You know that Air America’s people are all going to say the same thing.Thats why I don’t listen to them anymore.
Mystery solved - everyone is wondering why the RNC and McCain are not being more aggressive towards Obama - IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE TO.
The Democrats and Obama are self destructing without the Republicans. They are saving their money.
You could be correct —
This is like watching a soap opera — it goes on and on and on.
And nobody does those things in “real life”.
Does Obama even have any parts for Jackson to rip off?
Obama is the biggest waste of tax payer money along with Claire McCaskell.
kind of like a ken doll?
Not if that makes Claire McCaskell Barbie.
Rhoades hot for Obama is saying Bo voted for it so it can be inspected as to who ordered the phone companies to do that..she is sooo stupid.
McCain didn’t vote?
no,
i would think that he would be off campaigning somewhere, he would have voted yes along with every other republican senator.
At least you know where they stand.
BO voted for the FISA Bill because he just knows he is going to be the next president, so he will be able to listen in on all our phone calls because we don’t bow down to him.
I’m just astounded that Obama voted yes for this bill. I just can’t believe he would do something like that. And I say this as a Hillary supporter who will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.
I know Obama is a two-faced panderer, liar, and hypocrite who can’t be trusted, but this is just unbelievable. Does he not know how much this disappoints his core supporters? Does this know the kind of outrage it could cause in true Democrats? Does he just want to pander to the Bush-crowd so badly that he no longer cares about check and balances? I just didn’t think even someone like Obama could sell out the people who love him the most like this.
I’m so glad I’m not an Obama supporter, because I’d be going through a crisis. I’m happy Hillary did the right thing.
My guess is that Pelosi owns him now, and he knows it. He voted how she told him to vote.
Pelosi supports this??
She was the driving force behind FISA. Yep…..she orchestrated this.
Obviously this is not the Democratic party I thought I knew.
So true, Doro…..and we have thrown this unrecognizable party under the bus, eh?
He already know his fans will fall in line and twist themselves into pretzels defending his every move. It’s sad to watch so many semi-intelligent people buy into all his crap - crap that they can’t even use as reasons to vote for him because he changes his stance so rapidly.
He is now pandering for the independent voters, but they are a different type of voter. They don’t like the flip-flopping that is going on. He won’t be able to win many of them over, that I guarantee. He is burying himself and our party at the same time.
Sadly, the CBS Evening News minimized this FISA vote, not even calling it FISA but “Warrantless Wiretapping” and putting it at :22 minutes into the broadcast. They did not saying how the candidates voted. Katie & crew disappoint me on this one
CBS did highlight BO escorting Ted Kennedy on the floor for the Medicare bill vote. No camera pan on Hillary.
I don’t get how the Obamabots can rationalize this one, except for their cult-following, knee-jerk support reactions.
That’s interesting, Ted didn’t vote on FISA. he must have missed it due to his am chemo and radiation up in boston
I believe Hillary would have voted No even as the Dem nominee. BO is just a weak person, not cut out for true leadership.
Would she have?
That’s an interesting hypothetical question. Any candidate who voted against FISA would have been immediately targeted as being soft on terrorism and unmindful of national security.
So? Because of that it’s ok to compromise principles?
Before you can do anything as president, you must first be elected president. That doesn’t require that you compromise your most basic principles, but it does require that you modifying your rhetoric toward the center ground. It can also require that you vote strategically during the final months of a presidential campaign, so as to avoid committing political suicide.
I wasn’t attempting to “undermine” Hillary Clinton with that comment. My point was only that with Obama as the presumptive candidate, Senator Clinton is freer from worry that a vote entirely consistant with principle will be used against her as a weapon in the perceptual battle for the presidency.
A “NAY” on FISA would have been used against Obama by the right in exactly that fashion. The right loves to play the fear card. They know it’s especially effective with the voters. Bush’s selling of the war, his second-term election, and the empowerment of his presidency has relied almost entirely upon the utilization of fear tactics.
If BOBO had supported telecom immunity during the primaries he would have lost. This isn’t BOBO moving to the center. This is BOBO moving over to George Bush. George bush is about a far to from the center as you can get and still find strong enough tree and shrub roots to keep your dangling ass from falling into the abyss.
But you know the right is wrong. You know that this bill would give the president and the telecoms too much power. By not standing up against it, Obama is perpetuating the right’s ability to use the fear card in addition to compromising democratic principles. By voting for this, Obama enables the right to have it both ways.
By your logic it is okay for a presumptive nominee to do anything to get elected, including not keeping his words, as long as the candidate belongs to the right party. When you let a candidate manipulate you like that, there is no telling what else you would allow him to do once he is in office. Your excuse would then change to the necessity to keep a Democrat in power. What else would he compromise to stay in office?
I don’t know… I used to be an idealist. Now I like to think that I’m a pragmatist, rather than a person who’s simply lowered his standards.
I’ve occasionally wondered if what people must be willing to do to become president might not weed out everyone actually fit to be president. Can anyone successfully climb that ladder, and still be morally whole when they reach the top?
That’s not a question we’d want to dwell on for too long, but it’s probably reasonable to say that all candidates are likely flawed in some fashion. Most here focus on Obama’s presumed flaws. I focus on his presumed virtues. When I’m not defending the guy against attack, I’ll readily admit there are some things about him I don’t like; I didn’t like his vote on FISA, for example. I don’t like this attitude about illegal immigration. (Or Bush’s or Clinton’s or McCain’s, either.) But when I compare Obama’s votes and policies with McCain’s votes and policies, the list of what I don’t like about John McCain is far longer.
Hillary Clinton simply doen’t enter into the debate for me at this point. Unfortunately.
I understand your point. I am not an idealist either, but I do like to hold a candidate accountable for what he or she says. Obama just doesn’t pass that accountability test, because he does not care what his supporters think.
I don’t think it’s as easy as making a list. How do you even know that Obama’s virtues will be consistent? So far a lot he has backtracked on a lot of things. Right now it seems that the list of flip-flops will only be longer. The more important question is: How do you know you can trust him?
Hey dickweed, so he’ll do anything to get elected, that’s what YOU said about Hillary. So what do you think he’ll do to stay in office, do you think he’ll give up all that power Bush has amassed? Hillary said she would have. You can’t believe a word Barky says.
Never said that. Ever. I was a Hillary Clinton supporter as long as the Clinton campaign seemed even remotely viable. I only got behind Obama when it came down to a McCain vs. Obama decision. My greatest concern now is that the republicans might get another 4 years. My basic position is Better Obama than that.
Wrong again. Obama would be worse than Mccain. I’m guessing his ties to Rezco alone will give the repubicans many field days for endless photo op hearings and investigations. He’ll be tied up in knots defending himself. You think Bill Clinton was hamstringed over a blowjob? Ha! And the way he pissed off a lot of other democrats, I’m guessing they won’t fight too hard for him or they may even help stick the knives in.
She criticized FISA on the same points in January, so, despite James’ attempts to undermine her in our imaginations, she has provided evidence that she acts on proper principles.
James, on the other hand, is a pot stirring sleeveen.
But was Obama supposed to be a “different” kind of candidate–one who actually stood for democratic principles and the constitution! Wasn’t he going to change the way things are done in Washington? Give me a break!
Well articulated statement by Hillary as usual on this serious issue. I look forward to seeing her as president in January.
OMG Terry McCuliffe just said he doesn’t want to embarrass the front runner so they won’;t fight for a role call vote in August
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
JUDAS!!!!!!!!1
NOOOOOOOOOO!
This is terrible to read about. Christ, we had one last shot of placing a Dem in the WH in November.
Oh well. Guess we better get used to President McCain.
Thanks for the info Dawnelle
Who ever heard of such a thing? Where is the precedent for this?. Is this democracy? What kind of respect is this? If this is true it is outrageous and we should boycott the convention. Have no one watch it. No one. Demolish the ratings. Get someone from Hollywood to put on some other show the same night that will draw in viewers. Anthing but the convention. 18 million people voted for Hillary. She accumulated a mass of delegates. And now we are concerned about “embarrassing Obama?”. Who is to say he was the front runner anyway? Hillary had both the popular vote and the electoral vote. Shame on the DNC. Shame on America.
How do we know this is McAuliffe’s idea. Maybe he was ordered to do this.
Just saying….
I imagine is a strategic withdrawal. Give them and Obama Nation their “victory.”
What about having O stand in a horse drawn chariot around the field at Mile High Stadium, with a little guy behind him holding a gold laurel wreath. I can almost hear the shouts of the hundred or so remaining true believers, “Hail Obama!”
It would be GREAT TeeVee!
Could distribute the footage on DVD under the title, “Triumph of the Will[ing Suspension of Disbelief]“
Now he’s saying we need to learn to speak Spanish. I’m bad at picking up new languages I guess I get deported!
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/blogtalk-obamas-fisa-vote/
July 9, 2008, 5:54 pm
Blogtalk: Obama’s F.I.S.A. Vote
By MICHAEL FALCONE
It should come as no surprise to Senator Barack Obama that his vote today in favor of expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is drawing cries of outrage from many corners of the liberal blogosphere. After all, the senator’s own campaign Web site had become a focal point for his supporters to express their displeasure with Mr. Obama’s stance on the bill.
That was the case again today. Carl from Ft. Worth, Texas, posted a message on Mr. Obama’s Web site this afternoon. The subject line read: “Obama just lost my vote.” He continued:
“I am disgusted. Obama will NOT receive my vote in November, regardless of whether it means McCain wins (at least HE’S being honest with us). Once again, Dems picked the wrong guy in the primaries. Time to leave the party I guess.”
Other comments struck much the same theme. Patrick in Chicago wrote “Can I get my money back this candidate appears to be defective” and Christopher from San Francisco put it simply “Senator Obama, you fail.”
Ouch.
(Recall that Mr. Obama tried to calm his critics last week with a statement on his site emphasizing that his position on the surveillance plan, “…was not an easy call.”)
Armando Llorens, who blogs under the name Big Tent Democrat, at TalkLeft.com took issue with the comments Mr. Obama made yesterday saying that his support for the bill was not politically motivated, but rather represents a genuine policy disagreement with more liberal elements of the Democratic Party:
“I do not believe Barack Obama. I will go further. I do not want to believe him. Because the alternative is worse. Because if Obama believes the BS he said about the FISA Capitulation bill, then he is not fit to be President. If Barack Obama really believes this about the FISA Capitulation bill, then he is as dangerous as George W. Bush.”
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a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Obama threw Democrats under the bus.
Now all of you idiot Obama nutwings: Your guy voted for this piece of shit legislature - our HILLARY did the right thing by voting a resounding NO - which you support. What have you got to say for yourselves now OBAMA nutwings????
Your Obama is a freaking FRAUD!
The ‘bots are just beside themselves this evening. They are having to defend their hoodwinker on this most tender of issues to the progressive community.
Hillary, very simply: YOU’RE MY PRESIDENT!
The Lady has 2 attributes The Radical One will never possess. Class, and convitions. She’s MY President. He can go to Hell.
Hillary or McCain ‘08!!!
Oops - that’s “class, and convictions.”
Does Terry McAuliffe speak officially for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton these days, if she’s suspended her campaign.
I hope to God he does not! And yet, I understand there’s a lot of negotiations going on to try to get HRC’s Primary Campaign debt reduced.
Getting her name on the first ballot is our only hope, and her main bargaining tool. Makes no sense to all of the people who worked hard in the primaries and caucuses to become a pledged delegate for her.
I heard about half of HRC’s debt has been paid down in recent weeks, and with a bit of effort, the rest could be paid off (by supporters) in a couple of weeks. Pray she is not beholden to BO.
She’s never been beholden, in my opinion. She simply wanted him to do what is appropriate and expected in political contests. The fact that he has failed to do so reflects upon him. He’s a jerk.
and it gets better…
Mccain is now criticizing Baracktrack for his yes vote on FISA:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/09/obama-takes-heat-from-mccain-camp-for-surveillance-vote/
“A few short months ago, Barack Obama outwardly opposed terrorist surveillance legislation, saying that he would filibuster any bill that includes immunity for American telecommunications companies,” spokesman Tucker Bounds said. “Today, the U.S. Senate will approve legislation providing the immunity Barack Obama supposedly opposed, and despite his promise, he will not support a filibuster.
“What Barack Obama will do is show that he’s willing to change positions, break campaign commitments and undermine his own words in his quest for higher office.”
McCain later told reporters in South Park, Pa., that he and Obama “are still in strong disagreement on the issue of immunity for the telecommunications” companies, since Obama still technically opposes the immunity provision and he supports it.
But he said that on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act overall, Obama did flip. He said that’s “not the first change in position.”
McCain missed the vote on the surveillance bill, as he campaigned in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Obama has caught flak for several positions he’s taken in recent weeks.
He supported a Supreme Court decision that invalidated the Washington, D.C., handgun, even though his campaign last year said that ban was “constitutional.”
He said last week he might “refine” his Iraq policies after traveling to the Middle East this summer, though he later insisted he was not talking about changing his stated plan to remove all U.S. brigades from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.
The McCain campaign on Tuesday released a list of 17 alleged flip-flops.
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a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Will Obama even make it to August? It’s not surprising that he voted yea, he is pandering to the right in hopes of garnering votes from the republican party. Same deal with the language comment. See how wonderfully he plays with others?
This is all an attempt to make the general election look like a personality contest. Something like the primary race.
Only one problem here, how can you believe what he’s saying now?
Actually it’s the biggest problem Barack has, he’s a liar. Old saying, “a thief is a liar and a liar is a cheat”. Was taught this long ago in childhood. The point was never be a liar because then you are all three! Guess this was a lesson Barack didn’t learn growing up in the heartland. Pity.
Did anyone see Feingold on MSNBC. I’ve never seen so much double talk in all my life.
On one hand he said it was terrible that they passed the FISA bill (he did not vote for it) today and that people have a right to be disappointed but when a Democrat(Obama)gets into the White House they can work to change it. Only problem as we all know Obama voted for it.
Am I missing something. Maybe they’re all speaking Spanish so I don’t understand this type of language!
lol*….funny. Obama has turned them all into pretzel brains trying to explain him and the party’s decisions.
And they wonder why the public has no respect for Congress.
I think if we try hard enough we can drive a lot of Obama supporters insane. I see the losers he has begging for money on the streets and they are all a hop skip and a jump from the nut house. At a minimum you can get them all riled up if you go up to them and then criticize Obama.
His whole cult is like a self help group for the seriously mentally ill.
Hillary, thank you so much for making the right decision and fighting for our rights. I respect that and expect that–I’m grateful for that.
Obama is a disgrace.
Here is a sentance you have not heard from BO, and never will.
Jessy is right he really can cut off Obama’s nuts he does not need them, Hillary acts more like she is walking around with several.
[...] security is amongst the New York Senator’s greatest concerns. But as she makes clear in her statement, the FISA bill goes against our constitutional rights: Congress must vigorously check and balance [...]
MSNBC and CNN won’t play the whole Rev. Jackson tape. All they repeat is the, “Barrack keeps talking down to Black people” part. They won’t play or even say the ball cutting part.
If a White person had said it, MSNBC would be playing the tape over and over.
FISA is a complete non-issue. The government has had the legal ability to monitor all foreign communications since at least 1947. Foreign communications have always been defined as a communication where at least one of the communicants is outside the U.S. or believed to be an agent of a foreign power, regardless of location. FISA works and protects our privacy. All the Hillary nut-jobs need to relax. Your e-mail’s and text messages are way to pointless for the government to care about.
Bye Bye Pumas.
Uh, hold on. I don’t agree it’s “a complete non-issue”. While FISA has been around since the days of Jimmy Carter, the big issue at present is how Bush may have been using it illegally without oversight or meaningful checks and balances, and to what extent letting him get away with it will establish precendents for improper future use. Granting retroactive immunity to the telecom industry without even knowing what actions you’re granting them immunity for is very disturbing. If Bush did something illegal–and granting that if probably requires a tremendous stretch–and private corporations were knowing accomplices, they ought to be held accountable.
I’m not so quick to make light of government e mail and internet monitoring. There are plenty of indications that this may now be almost universal. My own assumption is that all activity and all messages are now being rerouted through NSA supercomputers for analysis and data mining. If you don’t believe that, you haven’t been paying attention. Bush has apparently issued classified presidential directives along those lines that members of congressional oversight committees don’t even have access to. All that is known about them are their general topics.
I guess we’re just supposed to forget the law and the Constitution and just keep repeating this mantra over and over to ourselves: If I’ve done nothing wrong, I have nothing to fear.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/feds-must-exami.html
[...] Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 [...]