Comments on: Backtracking with Barack — Corn Ethanol http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:16:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: andySF http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-444699 andySF Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:29:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-444699 Mccain will invest in building more Nuclear power plants. The one we have now are old, but still provide 20% of the nations power. With newer Tech, the new plants can easily handle another 20%. That will free up natural gas for cars(we have a lot at home), which help to decrease the use of oil(imported). It also help advance the goal of putting more electric car on the road, which help the environment. Plenty of electrical power also help put more hydrogen cars on the road, since it takes a lot of power to create fuel cell(it don't grow from trees in case you don't know), which also help the environment. It will also help push the research on fusion technology, which unlike current fission reactors, are 100% safe even if it accident happens. He's also for wind power and solar power and other long term solution as well. He's for clean coal technology also. Now compare that to Obama's support on ethanol from corn is taking food supply form people who can least afford it around the world, what kind of world leader would you call that? Hybrid battery require a lot of energy to create, translate into carbon emission, as long as we use natural gas or oil for power generation. Also, a 50 years energy plan without any solution to the current problem in the short term is just another way to duck responsibility, where new president is elected in 2016. A threat of drilling(which may not even need to take place) will sent oil future market into a selling frenzy in the short term, and bring relief for the average American. Tell me how Obama is going to solve the short term problem other then telling people to not heating up their home like they did in Chicago, buying hybrid cars that many can't afford to while he drives gas hungry cars, and and promise that many never come through in the current economic condition. Just tell me how? Details would be nice, as I am tired of talking points copy from his site. Tell me how his plan could work, substance please. Mccain will invest in building more Nuclear power plants. The one we have now are old, but still provide 20% of the nations power. With newer Tech, the new plants can easily handle another 20%. That will free up natural gas for cars(we have a lot at home), which help to decrease the use of oil(imported). It also help advance the goal of putting more electric car on the road, which help the environment. Plenty of electrical power also help put more hydrogen cars on the road, since it takes a lot of power to create fuel cell(it don’t grow from trees in case you don’t know), which also help the environment. It will also help push the research on fusion technology, which unlike current fission reactors, are 100% safe even if it accident happens.

He’s also for wind power and solar power and other long term solution as well. He’s for clean coal technology also.

Now compare that to Obama’s support on ethanol from corn is taking food supply form people who can least afford it around the world, what kind of world leader would you call that?
Hybrid battery require a lot of energy to create, translate into carbon emission, as long as we use natural gas or oil for power generation.

Also, a 50 years energy plan without any solution to the current problem in the short term is just another way to duck responsibility, where new president is elected in 2016.

A threat of drilling(which may not even need to take place) will sent oil future market into a selling frenzy in the short term, and bring relief for the average American.

Tell me how Obama is going to solve the short term problem other then telling people to not heating up their home like they did in Chicago, buying hybrid cars that many can’t afford to while he drives gas hungry cars, and and promise that many never come through in the current economic condition. Just tell me how? Details would be nice, as I am tired of talking points copy from his site. Tell me how his plan could work, substance please.

]]> By: VinceP1974 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443288 VinceP1974 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443288 John: What a piece of work you are.. how easy you abuse and dishonor the deaths of 6 million people. You're deranged. John: What a piece of work you are.. how easy you abuse and dishonor the deaths of 6 million people.

You’re deranged.

]]> By: VinceP1974 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443272 VinceP1974 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:41:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443272 John: Maybe you like to explain to everyone how it is that you claim to be "scientific" however your response is entirely emotional and immature.. and completely free of any data . Quite a dishonest approach wouldn't you say? To pretend you're objective but in reality a cry-baby shill? But that is all you Global Warming Enviromarxists have left to do.. the world is cooling. You are a fraud. John: Maybe you like to explain to everyone how it is that you claim to be “scientific” however your response is entirely emotional and immature.. and completely free of any data .

Quite a dishonest approach wouldn’t you say? To pretend you’re objective but in reality a cry-baby shill?

But that is all you Global Warming Enviromarxists have left to do.. the world is cooling. You are a fraud.

]]> By: John http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443251 John Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:35:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443251 Isn't time you got back to working on your next Holocaust Denial book? Isn’t time you got back to working on your next Holocaust Denial book?

]]> By: Tyrione http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443247 Tyrione Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:35:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443247 As a Mechanical Engineer I would drop Ethanol like a bad habit. Instead, I would leverage ALGAE. Go to the site and learn about the real Bio-fuel that will change the landscape for the Airline and Automobile industries. http://www.petrosuninc.com/ <strong>PetroSun Announces Recent Algae-to-Biofuel Development</strong> Wednesday June 25, 9:23 am ET SCOTTSDALE, AZ--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 25, 2008 -- PetroSun, Inc. (Other OTC:PSUD.PK - News) announced today that the company has advanced as a team member to the award consideration phase for the development of jet fuel derived from algae. We anticipate the final award negotiation process to commence after June 30, 2008. sustainable fuels industry," stated Gordon LeBlanc, Jr., CEO of PetroSun. "It is frustrating that we are restricted to this generic release of information today based solely on the current status of the alternative jet fuel program. Being a team player is something we understand; being politically correct is not on our agenda during what should be a period of an all out effort to succeed in the development of global sustainable energy resources. PetroSun will continue to move forward independently and with industry partners to fulfill the commercial promise of algae derived biofuels." About PetroSun PetroSun's operations include oil and gas exploration, development, production, oilfield tubular sales and algae-to-algal oil alternative biofuel production. The oil and gas division is focused on the exploration of the Holbrook Basin of Arizona, the San Juan Basin of New Mexico, Australian based prospects and the development of oil and gas reserves in Louisiana. PetroSun Oilfield, a wholly owned subsidiary, is engaged in the importing of tubing and casing from China for marketing and distribution within the US market. The alternative fuels division has entered the commercial stage of its algae-to-biofuels production technology. The Company plans to establish algae farms and algal oil extraction plants in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona, Mexico and Central America during 2008. The algal oil product will be marketed as feedstock to existing biodiesel refiners and planned company owned refineries. PetroSun is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona with field offices in Shreveport, Louisiana and Rio Hondo, Texas. For more information about PetroSun visit the company's website at www.petrosuninc.com. Except historical matter contained herein, matters discussed in this news release are forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements reflect assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties, which may affect the Company's business and prospects and cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Contact: Contact: Investor Relations Osprey Partners 732-292-0982 Source: PetroSun, Inc. As a Mechanical Engineer I would drop Ethanol like a bad habit.

Instead, I would leverage ALGAE. Go to the site and learn about the real Bio-fuel that will change the landscape for the Airline and Automobile industries.

http://www.petrosuninc.com/

PetroSun Announces Recent Algae-to-Biofuel Development
Wednesday June 25, 9:23 am ET

SCOTTSDALE, AZ–(MARKET WIRE)–Jun 25, 2008 — PetroSun, Inc. (Other OTC:PSUD.PK – News) announced today that the company has advanced as a team member to the award consideration phase for the development of jet fuel derived from algae. We anticipate the final award negotiation process to commence after June 30, 2008.

sustainable fuels industry,” stated Gordon LeBlanc, Jr., CEO of PetroSun. “It is frustrating that we are restricted to this generic release of information today based solely on the current status of the alternative jet fuel program. Being a team player is something we understand; being politically correct is not on our agenda during what should be a period of an all out effort to succeed in the development of global sustainable energy resources. PetroSun will continue to move forward independently and with industry partners to fulfill the commercial promise of algae derived biofuels.”

About PetroSun

PetroSun’s operations include oil and gas exploration, development, production, oilfield tubular sales and algae-to-algal oil alternative biofuel production. The oil and gas division is focused on the exploration of the Holbrook Basin of Arizona, the San Juan Basin of New Mexico, Australian based prospects and the development of oil and gas reserves in Louisiana. PetroSun Oilfield, a wholly owned subsidiary, is engaged in the importing of tubing and casing from China for marketing and distribution within the US market. The alternative fuels division has entered the commercial stage of its algae-to-biofuels production technology. The Company plans to establish algae farms and algal oil extraction plants in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona, Mexico and Central America during 2008. The algal oil product will be marketed as feedstock to existing biodiesel refiners and planned company owned refineries. PetroSun is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona with field offices in Shreveport, Louisiana and Rio Hondo, Texas. For more information about PetroSun visit the company’s website at http://www.petrosuninc.com.

Except historical matter contained herein, matters discussed in this news release are forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements reflect assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties, which may affect the Company’s business and prospects and cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

Contact:
Contact:
Investor Relations
Osprey Partners
732-292-0982

Source: PetroSun, Inc.

]]> By: Annie Oakley http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443083 Annie Oakley Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:02:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443083 Thank you, again, Mr. Lemos, for another educational post. I was surprised to find myself thinking McCain had a better energy policy than Obama. I don't like it all, but I think it is better than Obama's. From your NYT quote: <blockquote>Mr. McCain advocates eliminating the multibillion-dollar annual government subsidies that domestic ethanol has long enjoyed. As a free trade advocate, he also opposes the 54-cent-a-gallon tariff that the United States slaps on imports of ethanol made from sugar cane, which packs more of an energy punch than corn-based ethanol and is cheaper to produce. “We made a series of mistakes by not adopting a sustainable energy policy, one of which is the subsidies for corn ethanol, which I warned in Iowa were going to destroy the market” and contribute to inflation, Mr. McCain said this month in an interview with a Brazilian newspaper, O Estado de São Paulo. “Besides, it is wrong,” he added, to tax Brazilian-made sugar cane ethanol, “which is much more efficient than corn ethanol.”</blockquote> The corn lobbyists and Obama have turned to their benefit, not ours, an issue of great importance. If we are going to subsidize ethanol, it should be to bring cellulosic ethanol or algae biodiesel or some other nonfood-based technology on line. McCain wants to offer a prize for a lightweight battery to make electric cars more practical. Again, I agree with him. Thank you, again, Mr. Lemos, for another educational post. I was surprised to find myself thinking McCain had a better energy policy than Obama. I don’t like it all, but I think it is better than Obama’s. From your NYT quote:

Mr. McCain advocates eliminating the multibillion-dollar annual government subsidies that domestic ethanol has long enjoyed. As a free trade advocate, he also opposes the 54-cent-a-gallon tariff that the United States slaps on imports of ethanol made from sugar cane, which packs more of an energy punch than corn-based ethanol and is cheaper to produce.

“We made a series of mistakes by not adopting a sustainable energy policy, one of which is the subsidies for corn ethanol, which I warned in Iowa were going to destroy the market” and contribute to inflation, Mr. McCain said this month in an interview with a Brazilian newspaper, O Estado de São Paulo. “Besides, it is wrong,” he added, to tax Brazilian-made sugar cane ethanol, “which is much more efficient than corn ethanol.”

The corn lobbyists and Obama have turned to their benefit, not ours, an issue of great importance. If we are going to subsidize ethanol, it should be to bring cellulosic ethanol or algae biodiesel or some other nonfood-based technology on line. McCain wants to offer a prize for a lightweight battery to make electric cars more practical. Again, I agree with him.

]]> By: John http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443031 John Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:48:06 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443031 Don't forget those smartypants "scientists" who keep telling us that the Sun is better than the Earth and that's why WE have to revolve around IT instead of the other way around, like in the good old days! Not to mention all them Intylecktyalls that tell us that Man has driven some animals extinct- yeah right, I see animals everywhere! And they're tellin me their extinct! --Signed, VinceP With His Head Firmly Planted Up His Ass Don’t forget those smartypants “scientists” who keep telling us that the Sun is better than the Earth and that’s why WE have to revolve around IT instead of the other way around, like in the good old days!

Not to mention all them Intylecktyalls that tell us that Man has driven some animals extinct- yeah right, I see animals everywhere! And they’re tellin me their extinct!

–Signed, VinceP With His Head Firmly Planted Up His Ass

]]> By: Annie Oakley http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443009 Annie Oakley Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:43:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-443009 Obama has gotten a free pass on the odd fact that the special interest groups he panders to, i.e., corn ethanol, commodities traders and mortgage bankers, have caused great harm to the nation as a whole. Obama has gotten a free pass on the odd fact that the special interest groups he panders to, i.e., corn ethanol, commodities traders and mortgage bankers, have caused great harm to the nation as a whole.

]]> By: John http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442999 John Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:40:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442999 I feel sorry for your kids if they've inherited your narrow little mind. I bet your ancestors scoffed at the concept of air travel. Dumbass. I feel sorry for your kids if they’ve inherited your narrow little mind.

I bet your ancestors scoffed at the concept of air travel.

Dumbass.

]]> By: AnninCa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442951 AnninCa Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:26:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442951 I so agree with you about the lack of willingness to concentrate and solve real problems. That's why Hillary had a tough time initially selling her candidacy. She's the pragmatic problem-solver. Nobody wanted to deal with the problems. Obama doesn't even like policy discussions. In that regard, I have to admit he's opposite of Jimmy Carter, though I'm fond of the comparison in other respects. He's not interested in problems or in solutions. FISA...not to worry is his attitude. I'll be good. Well, you voted on a bad law that leaves us wide open to yet more Washington corruption. It's not about you, Obama. It's about the country and its protections and the separation of powers. Obama has no real interest in oversight, which we are sorely in need of bolstering after 8 years of neglect. It's not a mystery why we're unable to enjoy peppers and tomatoes. Bush gutted the FDA. The Consumer Protection Agency is nothing but a bullpen of resumes waiting to be hired by the private sector. Ditto for energy. Obama passed a nuclear bill that did NOT demand that the plant inform people of leaks in any way other than the plant's usual method....which is slow. Are we surprised? No. His attention to detail is appalling. His expectations that things actually work is nil. He reminds me of bad CEOs I worked for who loved the position and the perks and really drove the company into the ground with bad judgment. And there are plenty of those turkeys around. Obama's corn fuel policy stance needs to change pronto. That's one flip-flop that would be smart. I so agree with you about the lack of willingness to concentrate and solve real problems. That’s why Hillary had a tough time initially selling her candidacy. She’s the pragmatic problem-solver. Nobody wanted to deal with the problems.

Obama doesn’t even like policy discussions. In that regard, I have to admit he’s opposite of Jimmy Carter, though I’m fond of the comparison in other respects. He’s not interested in problems or in solutions.

FISA…not to worry is his attitude. I’ll be good. Well, you voted on a bad law that leaves us wide open to yet more Washington corruption. It’s not about you, Obama. It’s about the country and its protections and the separation of powers.

Obama has no real interest in oversight, which we are sorely in need of bolstering after 8 years of neglect. It’s not a mystery why we’re unable to enjoy peppers and tomatoes. Bush gutted the FDA. The Consumer Protection Agency is nothing but a bullpen of resumes waiting to be hired by the private sector. Ditto for energy. Obama passed a nuclear bill that did NOT demand that the plant inform people of leaks in any way other than the plant’s usual method….which is slow. Are we surprised?

No. His attention to detail is appalling. His expectations that things actually work is nil. He reminds me of bad CEOs I worked for who loved the position and the perks and really drove the company into the ground with bad judgment.

And there are plenty of those turkeys around.

Obama’s corn fuel policy stance needs to change pronto. That’s one flip-flop that would be smart.

]]> By: AnninCa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442930 AnninCa Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:19:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442930 Interesting post. I agree with you about the coming crash in price of oil, but I am not savvy. I just figure anything that skyrockets that fast is due for an adjustment. Interesting post. I agree with you about the coming crash in price of oil, but I am not savvy. I just figure anything that skyrockets that fast is due for an adjustment.

]]> By: AnninCa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442927 AnninCa Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:17:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442927 I don't either. This one is like the hand-gun law that just got soundly shot down. Those strict constitutional judges DO have their uses, eh? I don’t either. This one is like the hand-gun law that just got soundly shot down.

Those strict constitutional judges DO have their uses, eh?

]]> By: AnninCa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442922 AnninCa Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:16:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442922 McCain's policies are, indeed, far more progressive than Obama's when it comes to energy. He's also hitting the mark with public opinion on off-shore drilling. See news today for an update on yet another Democratic cave-in on that issue. As a CA resident, I'm opposed to off-shore drilling. It's environmentally dangerous and questionable as to production value. However, that's the CA stance, with good reason, obviously. They are welcome to drill off of FL. *haha However, it's clear that McCain has a much more compelling message than Obama on this all-important issue. McCain’s policies are, indeed, far more progressive than Obama’s when it comes to energy. He’s also hitting the mark with public opinion on off-shore drilling. See news today for an update on yet another Democratic cave-in on that issue.

As a CA resident, I’m opposed to off-shore drilling. It’s environmentally dangerous and questionable as to production value. However, that’s the CA stance, with good reason, obviously.

They are welcome to drill off of FL. *haha

However, it’s clear that McCain has a much more compelling message than Obama on this all-important issue.

]]> By: Faustina http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442906 Faustina Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:11:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442906 I read not long ago that T Boone Pickens was into water speculation these days. Personally, I find the notion that any one person can either own or control water highly objectionable. Water-energy-food...the basics. I don't think either candidate knows much about any of them. I read not long ago that T Boone Pickens was into water speculation these days. Personally, I find the notion that any one person can either own or control water highly objectionable.

Water-energy-food…the basics. I don’t think either candidate knows much about any of them.

]]> By: Hope Floats http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442819 Hope Floats Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:49:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/10/backtracking-with-barack-%e2%80%94-corn-ethanol/#comment-442819 Interesting that Lil Wayne uses her maiden name while he's lyrically raping Hillary. Interesting that Lil Wayne uses her maiden name while he’s lyrically raping Hillary.

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