What comes around [Updated]
By PaganPower on July 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM in Barack Obama, FISA, Hillary Clinton, Hoodwinking, Jesse Jackson
Don’t miss the update at the end.
You know how I was saying yesterday that Obama supporters weren’t exactly jumping at the chance to help Hillary pay down her debt? Well it seems I didn’t know the half of it. Sure, I ended my piece a little snarky but essentially what I said turned out to be absolute truth. Evidence the following.
Wednesday night, he praised Clinton as “extraordinary” and “tough” — but nearly forgot about her need for funds.
I suppose this is is Obama’s version of:
“Senator Obama and his staff and his supporters are working very hard on debt relief for Senator Clinton, and will continue to in any way that works best,” said Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign.
Or perhaps an imitation of it. A bad one.
I watched the FISA debate and the voting. I saw forgetful Barack on the Senate floor, arms patting other senator’s backs. Smiles all around. A real lovefest. So maybe he almost forgot because he was remembering how good he felt in the Senate. With all that adulation.
Yes, Barky Obama was smiling yesterday when he voted to allow spying on American citizens by an uncontrolled completely self policing executive branch of government. He and 68 of his colleagues voted to undo the heart of the Bill of Rights. The right of privacy.
They were smiling about it.
My leader Hillary emerged again yesterday. She did the right thing.
But that was covered over with praise for Barky who voted to take freedom away from the American people. And Jesse Jackson who said he was sorry he wanted to cut his nuts off.
The rest of us wondering when Obama got nuts to begin with.
But while Obama was looking in the mirror and Jesse Jackson was looking for a knife, Hillary Clinton voted FOR the American people.
Not many people were slapping her back for it. She isn’t in the spotlight any more. The guy that just voted to oppress democracy is.
Strange isn’t it? The one that champions the American people sits on the sidelines while a sacred stage of sycophancy is being built around this man that voted to kill liberty. Nope, not a cult at all.
So maybe I understand why Barky was so forgetful yesterday. He had just pulled off the biggest hoodwink of them all. He actually voted to give himself virtually unlimited power to spy on any American citizen should he become president. And people slapped his back.
A Bam Damn Boozle. Maybe even a Bam God Damn Boozle.
It would sure be easy enough to explain this little episode.
After wrapping up his speech to donors Wednesday evening with an emphatic, “We will change the world!”, Obama left the stage to loud music, only to re-appear minutes later to complete his duties.
“Hold on a second guys, I was getting all carried away. I’ve got one more thing that is important to do,” Obama said to a laughing audience. “Senator Clinton still has some debt. And I could have had some debt if I hadn’t won so I know the drill.”
For someone that claims to need to reach out to Hillary and her supporters Senator Obama seems to go out of his way to diminish our importance with every coming day. With such less than enthusiastic pushes to help retire Hillary’s debt is it any wonder that they have raised LESS than $100,000 toward retiring that debt?
He might as well be up there bitch slapping her.
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Here’s another report:
UPDATE from a political observer:
ABC’s John Berman and Sunlen Miller report that Senator Obama “almost forgot” to ask for help with Senator Clinton’s debt during last night’s Manhattan fund-raiser: “He delivered a 32-minute speech to the crowd of 1,000 people at the Grand Hyatt Hotel on Park Avenue in New York City, and began walking off the stage to Stevie Wonder’s ‘Signed, Sealed, and Delivered.’ After 32 minutes he had still not asked for money. In the back of the ballroom, reporters rushed campaign aides, asking if there had been a change in plans. Why no pitch for Hillary?
“Obama … quickly rushed back on stage, saying, ‘Hold on a second guys, I was getting all carried away! … Sen. Clinton still has some debt. And I could have had some debt if I hadn’t won, so I know the drill. There are many supporters of mine here who have not yet given something to help her retire that debt.’ In fact, estimates are that the Obama camp has only raised about $100,000 to help Clinton so far. So, Obama asked people to look under their chairs for an envelope, ‘pick it up and put something in it.’ ”
That would mean that, at most, 19 other couples besides the Obamas have maxed out.
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“I know the drill”
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Dear PP,
I enjoy your insightful posts and your site.
I think the video does not help make the lack of funding point because it shows Obama doing the right thing, even though it would embarrass him a little. He stopped the party to make the funding request. Credit should be given when it is due, if only with respect to the situation shown in the video.
This said, it’s good to have video that shows Obama doing a good act on NQ. Unfortunately, and at this point, it appears to be as effective as his community organizing initiatives.
Yours,
Steven
steven mather — Obama doing the right thing by making Hillary an after thought? What an arrogant scum he is. Coming back on stage cause forgot to mention Hillary. I suppose people like you would think that is a sign of respect — Obama demeans everyone who isn’t him because he thinks he’s intellectually superior to the rest of us. Obviously in your case thats true.
And Stevie sweetie, Obama proved he listened to Rev Wright when he voted for FISA.
“God Damn America.”
now he’s going to feel FORCED to ask her to be his VP dammmmmmmmmmit!
Nooooooooooooooo Hillary should be PRESIDENT!!
Barry is the after
birththoughtI prefer to hammer Obama everywhere that he deserves hammering. I think that this one incident of forgetfulness, which he corrected, is best left alone, so that effort can be made against more substantive points.
I do not begrudge your desire to smote him in any and all places. We are on the same team. We differ only in approach.
After he talked about HIMSELF for 30 minutes. I can’t even stand to look at this guy, let alone listen to him. I felt this way back in January. He really turns me off with his nonchalant arrogance. Yuck.
Signed, sealed, delivered?
don’t count on it bo.
Obama has a nerve to act as if he is doing a favore to Hillary by asking her supporters to pay off her debt. He is the one actually is after Hillary, like yestarday events, and her big donners to raise money since the Republicans are not puring money into his campaign. Obama is after Hillary for her big donners.
Seriously
“I know the drill”
Did Lary Sinclair or Resko teach it to him?
You seem to have forgotten what Hillary said; or was it too Anti Republican for you?
“Now I’ve had countless conversations since the end of my campaign,” she began. “And I know how difficult it is for people who have invested their time, energy and emotion — just their entire being — into any campaign or cause. … When it is over, I know how difficult that is … how challenging it is to turn on a dime. It is a process. It does take time for people to take a deep breath, to go forward. … But anyone who voted for me has so much in common with those who voted for Barack. … It is critical that we join forces. The Democratic Party is a family — sometimes a dysfunctional family — but it is a family. We care about what is going to happen to health care [and education], and in Afghanistan in Iraq. … That work cannot be done if we do not have a Democratic president in the White House!”
Read our lips: WE WILL NOT SUPPORT CORRUPTION!
The DNC and the Obama campaign manipulated the primary process to ensure his “selection.” You cannot violate democratic principles to “win” in order to uphold democratic principles. See the contradiction? Oh wait, I guess you can, because that is Obama’s recent “explanation” for violating the Fourth Amendment in order to enforce it after he “wins” the presidency.
Sounds like someone else…Bush perhaps? We need to invade other countries and impose democracy in order to spread democracy.
So basic, and you just don’t get it.
p.s. We are not sheep (unlike the Kool Aid Cultists). We actually think for ourselves. We are not Hillary clones. Hillary is just doing what she has to do to live and fight another day. And we will be waiting for her call…
I wish they would put on the site how much is still needed .
They need to get people excited that they are helping her and it is making a difference.
They should be a count down.
I agree, that would be great. Larry, can you help
find out what the balance is and post?
Thank you.
Someone posted in another thread that it’s down to $5 mil.
I agree. At one point Heidi Li had a post on her site with the amount of debt outstanding. Many of us joined the effort on July 4 to donate $20.08 and yet there has been no announcement as to how much was raised. It would be extremely helpful and a real morale booster to know how much was raised by faithful supporters on July 4.
Will Bowers was on fox and said at least 6 mil was raised on the 4th
I just received an email from the Clinton campaign about buying the great t-shirt that won the contest. They are asking for a $50 donation. Worth every penny. I’d say. Can’t wait to get mine and start wearing it.
I am more outraged than ever. Why does the Media think this is funny? They are all laughing about this. I can not understand what is happening in our country.
I’m totally outraged. This underscores how self-absorbed, two-faced and selfish Obama is. It’s all about him. Period. It’s one friggin’ spectacle after another with him. Where’s Simon and Paula and Randy? He’s certainly play to them.
I’m so sick of hearing Obama’s voice, seeing his face and hearing his lies. I feel this way after 6 months. I feel that way about Bush too, after 8 years.
The Obama supporters aren’t liberals. They’re not progressives. Their just bullies and thugs and if he were to win, we’d have 4 years of Bush-like behavior from Obama and his supporters. It’s simply unacceptable.
We might as well face it; the corporate media is totally in the tank for Obama because the corporations and other special interests know they can control Obama with money and whispered sweet nothings in his ear.
Also, the media couldn’t bring Bill Clinton down, so the next best thing is knifing Hillary in the back. I so wish the Clintons would tell Obama and the DNC to shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Remember the MEDIA still hates Hillary
THAT isn’t going to change
I just don’t watch them and boycott their sponsors when ever I can (and send emails, etc)
I totally agree. i have been boycotting the MSM for about six months now. But I also am boycotting the local liberal rag in my neighborhood (tri-state districution newspaper) and I do not patronize any of the advertisers that I recall on the MSM or any of the newspapers I actually do buy (to line my cat box). the effect WILL be felt! Circulation is already down 30% in the last year. GOOD! My whole family is on board with this. I think we need to start a movement of revolt against the liberal media who “gang raped” Hillary and made us watch it!
In my decades of existenace, i have never seen a Dem party that went to such lengths to exclude the votes of any state or group of people like the DNC did recently with FL and MI. The idea of awarding votes to a candidate who got NO votes in eiher state is just beyond belief. But they did it, and lost a lot of people who called themselves Dems as a result. the current DNC leadership has done more to corrupt our democratic process than any other dem leadership in the last sixty years. the idea of “anointing” someone as the party nominee months ahead of the end of the primaries was the tip-off. Obama is just a fundraising straw for the party. he has absolutely nothing to offer which even remotely sounds like a Dem platform — and no power to do anything consistent with dem platforms if he is by some chance elected.
OK. enough. Tell all your friends, associates, co-workers, and family to BOYCOTT the MSM until they start actually showing some neutrality and good reporting. As a bonus — your kids grades will probably shoot upward because they are not watching dummed down TV and actually listenig to you, the parent (is this a novel concept, huh?) Even, if you don’t have children, anyone would benefit from shutting the MSM off. The current menu of shows is so pathetic, it seems to only appeal to the worst of us.
We will know when to turn the TVs back on and buying nespapers again when the websites and blogs signal that coverage has become more balanced.
It`s ALL about him.
Keep it up SWEETIE!
Every stupid comment you make, every cheap shot you send our way only makes us want to work harder for Senator Clinton.
PUMA!!!!!!!!!!
One in 18 million!
exactly. Just like his comment last night about how Americans should be teaching their kids Spanish. He’s every bit as stupid as Dubya.
equally as stupid and as MEAN! unfortunately! And HIS inner circle is mui MEAN as well!
He could start teaching his children to start speaking PUMA: No Deal, thank you.
Now that’s not too hard to learn.
I agree. There are 400+ languages spoken in the U.S. at last observation. Why would O choose to refer to “Spanish”? Oh, I wonder if I can guess…… Is it because he needs the Spanish-speaking peoples votes to win the election??? Wow! What a dork he is!
arrogant, mysogonist SOB.
Screw him, we’ll retire OUR debt, then raise more and put Hillary up as an independant!!!
With the democrat vote split, McCain will win (or the republicans with any sense will vote for Hillary too and she’ll be in the oval office where she deserves to be!)
Once a candidate fails in a bid for a primary they cannot run as an independent. Check out the rules.
That’s okay. We can just vote for someone else.
Fine. Then let’s make sure McCain wins this time, and Hillary wins in 2012, hopefully as the head of a Third Party. I am so over the Democratic Party!
wac for Hillary — Yes lets show Mr. Arrogance that he cannot fool all the people all the time.
That rule did not stop Joe Lieberman.
Havoc,
Obviously u haven’t been paying attention. Your messiah threw the rules out, and democracy with it, a long time ago.
PUMA!!!
One of 18 million and growing!
suthrn — Fox News is not going for Obama. Remember last year — HILLARY IS INEVITABLE was the buzzword on every media outlet. Its Summer and they are letting Obama swing in the wind. Damning Obama with faint praise which Obama takes as love. The media is going to turn toward McCain after the convention. If we wait for the media to do news we will wait a long time.
Its like a serial — what is the latest Obama gaff and will it hurt him — probably not. Then there will be media outrage — a firestorm of criticism about things we have known for a
year but which the media only decided was important. Its going to happen because Obama’s a loose cannon who cannot be trust to lead this country. For the Republicans this is Christmas in July. WATCH
You’ve got to get Gramm to stop putting his foot in his mouth first.
s. Hall;
Bo does not know what love is, he is immoral.
BO would not know he’s being “McPeek’ed” if it bit ‘em on the ear.
Your right about the RNC looking at all those wrapped boxes under the tree. and laughing because BO wrapped them ALL up with a nice ribbon to boot.
JJ? You know it’s getting bad when a black man has to apoligize for being correct about another “blackman”.
that just must be for the presidential elections, cuz lieberman switched to independent when he lost the primary for senate.
It applies to the Presidential GE
Where is this “rule”?
Whose “rule” is it?
It certainly hasn’t stopped Mike Gravel or Ron Paul from making bids to run as independents.
Please give us specifics here. An FEC rule. A DNC rule. Who’s rule exactly. I really want specifics here. Kindly provide them. And thank you.
Did that mean Joe Liarman who lost to Lamont and then ran as independent?
ok but define “failed”.
Lawyers would have a field day with that one. If she really wanted to run, she could do it. She’s “failed” nothing.
They just said on FOX there is more tape on what Jesse Jackson said that also is negative on Obama but they are choosing not to play it?
It must be really racist why would fox not want to play it. If it was positive Jesse would make sure that was played.
fox has crawled into bed with boybama it seems…no guts anymore..they use to be the ones to turn to for ALL thats happening. now its just a snippet here and there and repeated all day long..
I believe the reason why OReilly and friends are trying to down play the tape because they are playing both sides. This is only to try and get BHO on FOX. The man does not have the guts to ever appear.
Let’s hope Rupert Murdock hasn’t realized he can get more for himself with Obama in the White House. If he has, we won’t even be able to rely on Fox for what little info we can believe.
Are you kidding? Murdoch is on record as saying Barky’s going to win. That’s like William Randolph Hearst predicting a war between Spain and the U.S.
For all that’s happening?
lol you mean like the blonde blue eyed white girl killed and missing in Aruba (I think)? They played that for what, 2 years? Anytime something bad about Bush or Cheney was in the air they brought up the missing blonde.
Fox is a joke, they just happen to be the only media around at the moment to give the other side of the Obambi story.
If there’s more dirt in that video/audio they have, they are saving it for an opportune time.
Well, it might be a nice incisive analysis of how Obama is screwing the black community like he is screwing everyone else, that could Obama’s AA base against him. Fox for some reason may be in bed with Obama on this one. Unfortunately.
I think they are cutting out the part where Jesse says that after he cuts Obama’s nuts off he was going to go Cajun on them. Stew them with some shrimp. And then serve them. With some arugula. And a nice Chianti.
Wheres Agent Starling when we need her!!
Actually, I bet Obama’s sperm flip-flops in his sacs..ooops have I forgotten something?
“I can no more disown my left testicle than I can my right testicle…”
“That’s not the sperm that I knew…”
In response to PaganPower’s comment about Jesse Jackson’s intentions, Senator Obama assumed the National Anthem position.
http://tinyurl.com/5dlnkx
or, add them with some rocky mountain oysters ! they would probably be alot bigger than his brazille nuts !
roflol Pagan!!
PaganPower…Hannibal Lecter has a cooking show on the food network?
lol and ‘ewww’
Hopefully, they are saving it for Sept.
tricia — Jesse is only saying what most top Democrats are saying about Obama. They cannot stand that insufferable bore.
It must be maddening for Jesse to watch Obama and his calculated maneuvering. Say what you will about Jackson, but at least he was an authentic candidate, and is a proud black. Obama got where he is by being a supreme phoney, and by doing a Texas two-step on race–acting white when that benefits him, pulling out the race card when he needs to play the victim. Jackson knows that Obama wouldn’t hesitate to sell out the AA community if he thought that was the only way to win the election.
No wonder he’s looking for the cutlery.
Jesse is made that he is no longer relevant in the Black community.
Poor Barack… he gets so carried away with telling people he’s going to change the world, hope, change, hope, change, he forgets most everything else!
He’ll never change!
He hasn’t forgotten. He never intended to help Hillary. It’s all about HIM.
Amen!
what an arrogant sob this hussein guy is…jesse JUST DO IT and make it slow and painful
I was just on Hillbuzz where they hinted that, soon, Hillary would be announcing that her debt is paid off. I’m thrilled about that, but I don’t want Obasm’s campaign even implying that they were partly responsible for PUMA efforts.
You know Obama will take credit; it’s his nature. Unfortunately for him, it won’t change my opinion of him one bit, and it sure won’t make me vote for him.
btintaos — I am so glad to hear about Hillary’s debt being paid off. I heard that her name could not be placed in nomination if she owed this campaign debt. Is that true?
Can someone find out what exactly is the score with this please.
As far as I know one thing has nothing to do with the other.
Supposedly though, Camp O is using the debt as a negotiating ploy, which in itself is unprecedented.
Candidates don’t earn a roll call vote by paying off their campaign debt.
Roll calls nominate candidates at the convention.
Two seperate things.
s. hall, That is bogus as far as I know.
Can you provide a link to where you read stats ont Hillary’s remaining debt? It would be very helpful to us all…
Thanks!
PUMA efforts? All 300 of you? This RNC front did sweet FA for Hillary. The $100,000 rumour was put out by PUMA. There is no way of telling how much was raised by Clinton from Obama supporters. Her site does not ask are you an Obama supporter.
LOL! Smurfs are awfully paranoid creatures aren’t they? It seems you are SURROUNDED by Republicans plotting and feigning as Democrats! Quick–close the curtains–they’re watching you!!!
And please, continue to think we are a mere 300. It will make November so much sweeter.
Frankly, I don’t want Hillary to be indebted to the asshole at all!
We, her supporters, should pay the debt. This will be our statement to the jerks in the media who think it’s funnty that BO has not kept his end of the bargain by helping her pay down her debt. This only adds fuel to the fire of our commitment to do whatever we can to defeat this guy.
In fact, I hope all of the high end Hillraisers take this slap in the face to Hillary by the BO gan as reason enough to keep their money and spend it on something worthwhile — like Hillary’s run for president in 2012.
Party Unity My Ass!!!
I just wrote President Clinton thanking him for NOT campaigning for Obama and of course, venting about how Obama does not deserve the support of either him or Hillary. I can promise that the Big Dawg is reading all of these emails. His ego won’t let him NOT read them.
I want Obama defeated, period. At least with McCain, we know what we have. With Obama? He’s something new and more disgusting every hour and I like him less and less as the minutes tick by.
What address did you use? I like what you did and want to do the same.
His foundation site, click on “contact us”:
http://www.clintonfoundation.org/index.htm
I left a message about the same subject when the “kiss my ass” rumor was flying around.
Told him no to let barfy’s lips near his ass.
http://www.clintonfoundation.org/contact.htm In the pull down, choose ‘Correspondence: Write to President Clinton’
florida — I have gotten 5 calls in the last couple of days from my state Democratic Party hawking various down ticket Democrats because I was a Hillary Precinct Captain and I have now changed parties. They are very worried about what the National Party has cost our state. They promised they would tell the DNC about our concerns. In the last month 5,000 Democrats have changed their registrations in my city. So there is much to be concerned about.
If I had to give advice it would be to contact your state parties and threaten to vote a straight Republican ticket if they don’t allow Hillary’s name to be placed in nomination.
By the time I received the last call — I was told the candidate for the State Senate was a maverick who doesn’t agree with the National Party.
Maybe Obama — Dean and Pelosi don’t get it but these state parties do. They say pride cometh before the fall.
I also live in Florida and considered changing my affiliation, but am reluctant to do so because Independents aren’t allowed to vote in Primaries. If I do decide to change, how do I go about it?
I’ve actually changed already to Republican because we have some major-loser Dems in the local / county primary coming up and they’re unopposed in the Dem primary. A couple are total fools, idiots and freaks who cannot possibly win and a couple are excellent candidates. So our only choice is to get Repigs on the ticket who are less offensive than the ones we have now and to get a few on there that might be beatable by the good Dem candidates. We have to first get rid of the current batch of assholes. THEN after the primary, I may change to independent for a while. I’ll decide if I want to be a Dem again, based on what the DNC does in the next 4 or 5 months.
DAB, I called the county elections office and they directed me to an online site with the form to fill out.
So, here, print this out: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/RegToVote/webappform.pdf sign it and send to your county elections office. The addresses are on page two of the form.
I was told the candidate for the State Senate was a maverick who doesn’t agree with the National Party.
s. Hall do you think they are astroturfing the message back to you?…
ok but I still have a question about McCain
what if he picks a really shitty VP then he chokes ? And where did he ever say he would only serve one term? Why would he ever say that?
I’m sorry I am still behind about some details and I’m still NOT voting for Bambi although I think after this latest gaff of his with the money … he will feel obligated to ask Hill to be his VP (it’s all about the money)
dawnelle — McCain’s two choices for VP are moderate republicans. Charlie Christ Gov of Florida and Mitt Romney. I don’t see the Right Wing wielding the power in the Republican Party anymore now that Helms is gone. McCain doesn’t scary me — but the unknowable Obama does.
He is the president of the “All About Me” club.
So true.
You just made me think–the closer he gets to being POTUS, the more we get to see his true, opportunistic, egomaniacal nature. It’s like the presidency is a giant waffle and he’s just wondering why he can’t eat it…now. So, I say we should just let him think he’s close to his waffle. Feed his ego because, evidently, it’s so big it’ll devour him.
The obamabots seem to be channeling Donald Rumsfeld in their justification of Obambi’s multiple flip flops:
I can picture that as a film.
“When Waffles Attack”.
A giant overgrown waffle chases him down the street.
One of my favorite scenes from the movie “Day After Tomorrow” is when the reporter gets flattened by a piece of plywood. In this case, just replace the reporter with Obama and the plywood with a giant waffle, and we could rename the movie “Election Day 2008″.
That Stevie Wonder song sure is fitting.
Signed,sealed,delivered…by the DNC.
PUMA!
Hillary will never be on the sidelines, in my opinion. Her vote on FISA was almost more important than his. LOL* Lordy, she’ll have to issue statements about her senate votes from here on out. People are going to always look to Hillary as a moral compass in our country, regardless of what Obama wishes or his supporters delude themselves into thinking.
Hillary also needs to step up now about the fundraising failure of Obama and his supporters. She has to make a decision soon about how much to support him, given his paltry efforts to negotiate in good faith with her.
As for her top supporters, he couldn’t win us over if he came and had dinner with us. So we’re not relevant. Where he’s going to fail is with the people who didn’t care so much. If he keeps up the gaffe pace at the rate he’s been going, McCain’s words that he’s too inexperienced for the job will start to ring true. The latest gaffe with Germany is JUST such an embarassing example of his lack of savvy about international politics.
FISA was a stupid vote. He didn’t need to do it. There was no compelling reason to do it. It was just a very poor decision, and that has turned off the independents who were seeking relief from the Republican tactics over the past 8 years. Obama is now so not the “Change” guy for them.
Even people concerned about national security don’t really understand why it’s necessary to set aside the constitution.
He’s confusing his party so much that his surrogates can’t really back him. Look at their votes. What can they do to help him? Nada.
He’s pandering to the right-wing on immigration now. Border security first? That is a loaded gun with Latinos. When that gets fleshed out, many will drift back to McCain, and NM is important this year. Ditto for Nevada. Those are emerging, as we predicted, as key states to win.
The arguments I read from Obamabots about this was the same as in the primary. They were all seething that Hillary voted no on FISA. They are still singing from the choir book that Obama shouldn’t help her with her debt. The concept that her supporters are maxed out with her but could donate to him escapes them. They are just that ill-informed about campaign finance laws.
Meantime, Hillary was touted yesterday as having blown Obama off the stage in last night’s fundraiser. She glowed. He stumbled. They collected 1.5 million.
How much more will she do to help him? I hope not much. Frankly, can he afford to let her help? I’m not sure he can take the comparison. Mr. Orator doesn’t do well when he’s next to her. Her charisma is different, but compelling in a way that matters.
It’s time for this unity pony to either pony up or stop the rodeo.
Well said.
Hey – Obama’s winning 2/3 of the Hispanic vote.
believe — check with Dolores Huerta to get the correct numbers on Obama’s Hispanic support — cause thats an out and out lie.
The polls right now are total crapola. Everyday on Gallup there’s a big “Obama gains with” latinos, working class whites, women, etc, yet every day he’s never more than 2-4% in front of McCain.
Food for thought AnninCa. That FISA vote was classic “BO stupid”. The bill was going to pass with or with out him. But he is weak on the security issue by 20 points, so what does he do?
Shows the world he weak on the “principles” issue as well. UG. What an empty flower pot he is.
OT: How’s the smoke where your at? It’s real bad in the north bay….
Ball-less wonder that he is.
Personality cult is his only way to the white house.
I wouldn’t vote for the scum sucker if he was the last cockroach standing.
Backtrack Obama, he’s soooo cool he doesn’t have to mean what he says or say what he means. Words matter my ass.
Hillary is a kazillion times better than BO, in every way.
Hillary? Hillary who?
Ha, Ha! That’s a knee slapper! I almost forgot about Hillary and her debt. Yuk, yuk.
Meanwhile, Hillary flies to New York to raise funds for Obama.
This is the most disgraceful display of disrespect I’ve ever seen.
Obama laughs. The media laughs. It’s a good day to keep kicking Hillary.
Why shouldn’t Obama laugh? He can lie to his supporters faces. Their reaction? Well Hillary would have done it too.
Funny thing is if Hillary had done the same Obama supporters would be ripping her to shreds.
Yes, I’m sick of his passive agressive @#$P! It was another finger scratching, shoulder dusting moment.
imustprotest ^5 ^5
He pulled that in her state no less…unreal.
Well, if Jessee’s thinkin’ what he said on a hot mic, there’s got to be a helluva lot more people thinkin’ the same damn thing..I hope Obama wear’s a cup for protection, from here on out:-) His hopey changey ‘force field’ has at least 18 million cracks in it and that number is increasing.
NOBAMA
When Jessie’s comments were played on television, I hope there were a lot of people watching who were nodding their head in agreement.
People seemed to have missed the hand jerk Jessee made after he said the nuts statement. Body language often says more than just words. He wasn’t kidding.
wac for Hillary — Jesse is just saying what the other Democrats cannot say yet. However, if Obama loses and takes the party with him — there will be plenty of blame to go around.
roseeriter — Too many times lately prominent people have said things only to take them back hours later. I believe what they say when the say it and if Jesse ranted for a half hour then it wasn’t a slip of the tongue. Jesse cares about his people and he is furious that Obama is using them.
There is a video which proports to show Obama making fun of AA’s and an all white fund raiser. When this comes out watch the AA vote drop off.
The Black vote will drop off and what? vote for McCain? lol
You laugh now Havoc, but there ARE many people of color sitting on the fence, who are very sensitive about seeing a Politician promise shit his ass can’t cash and leave them high and dry. They have seen it many times before.
They have witnessed the recent “BO stupid” events and while many of them won’t vote for McCain, they damn sure won’t for BO. Part of the DB meme and will stay at home. in the last week there has been a 16% Dem shift AWAY from BHO. And all he did with FISA y se hablar espanola? was add momentum to a negitive story line.
He may have forgotten but we haven’t forgotten him! And we will continue to remember.
Signed, Sealed, Delivered: a big pile of b.s. from The Nutless One.
God, I wish she’d stop stumping with him. And please please please don’t take a VP spot with that scum.
Obama did NOT forget that he was suppose to request that his donor contribute. This man is a complete joke.I was so angry with this behavior on his part and the media’s attitude I immediately went to Sen. Clinton”s site and made a donation. HE IS AN IDIOT!!! AN IDIOT …I SAY!!!
You can bet that if someone from the media hadn’t asked him about helping with Hillary’s debt, he wouldn’t have bothered to make the announcement. He would have just told Hillary later that it was one of his aides’ fault that he forgot.
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Obama, the media and his campaign and followers are the scum of the United States of America. Like a 17 year old boy said to a cousin, “I bet they all piss while taking a shower because they sure have no class.” I was shocked when he explained it that way but by gosh it fits the imagine!! I will fight to the bone that that SB isn’t nominated!!! Go PUMA
Yuck! But true.
Get your t-shirts now while supplies last.
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SOMEONE had to REMIND him…he has NO CLASS.
VOTE McCAIN! (only if Hillary isn’t the nominee)
oh god nauseating
hold on a second….catch that snark
Too bad they don’t sell a t-shirt with Hillary and McCain as a party unity ticket for Nov.
I know a lot of people that would buy into that.
denise — that would be my dream ticket McCain/Clinton.
I don’t see why not. She supported McCain all through the primaries.
Now showing respect for one’s advisaries is called being smart. All those people BO sent under the bus are not his friends. Even if he went out and got a squirrel for a pet today, he still will never have any nuts.
He simply is not quailified for job and no amount of road stickers on his suitcase in a 3 week swing is going to teach him geography. He still will not know his ass from his elbow.
BO is like an Armadillo crossing a Texas highway and having an appointment with a guy named Peter Built.
Denise, great comment. I would definitely go for that ticket, but only if Hillary is not acclaimed by the Dem Convention as the only true electable candidate. I would vote for her first, as VP to McCain second. I cannot believe (and hope she never does) accept any spot on an Obama ticket. He is an incompetent and unqualified to run. We voters should be able to watch a good set of debates between two accomplished and experienced politicians, then decide. the DNC has shot itself in the “onions”!
Does Obama kids speak Spanish. Or is this just for everyones else kids they have affimative action
Papá es maloliente!! I heard one of them say.
Signed, sealed, and delivered, eh? What a prat.
I think the next time the limo comes for Hillary to take her to an Obama fundraiser she should say, “Oppsie, I forgot..he, he…I’ve got an appointment to get my hair cut” “I’ll catchya later”
I wish she would do that. She doesn’t need him, but he can’t win without her. Time for her to tell him to take a flying leap; he has nothing she or her constituents need.
I think she’s living up to a bargain they struck, but if he’s only delivering 100 grand, that bargain will be renegotiated.
Of one thing I’m confident, our Hillary is nobody’s doormat.
She’ll play the game ONLY if he’s playing the game fair and square.
Otherwise, look for a cancelled fundraiser in the news coming up.
Yeah! Cancel those things. BO is full of crap. He’s not spending one honest second on helping her out. And to all those who say “Why should O help Hill out” — because, because he is the reason she had to spend so much money to complete the primaries (and win the popular vote!). O should have dropped out in February 08 before he lost every significant primary in almost every state until 8 June. he did the damage, he should pay!
You say Obama can’t win without Hillary. How so since you NQ posters swear you’re not voting for Obama no matter what. If that’s the case he doesn’t need her.
We are working on Hillary’s Campaign Debt Hope you don’t mind No Quarter I am a great Fan of yours.I would like to pass on this link to give you all a chance to get an important memento of Hillary’s towards her campaign debt.
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/winning-t-shirt-to-pay-hillarys-debt-down/
Got my letter this morning and ordered my t-shirt. To be honest, I’m done with this deal.
Next time, I want to buy a chicken dinner and hear tales from the campaign trail if I’m going to write another check. *haha
But I’m proud to hear through the grapevine that good news should be coming out regarding this debt, no thanks to Obama supporters.
I had to laugh yesterday. I spent some quality time at HuffPo. I go there on bad news days for Obama just for fun and kicks. They are HURTING!
There isn’t any way that bunch is going to be able to support the convention. They have no clue that they need to also support downticket candidates.
I will eat my hat if he doesn’t start running into some bad press over how all the money goes only to him and it’s hurting other Dems and other Dem initiatives.
Yeah! Hillary and McCain on the same ticket. It would ppossibly make for a more stable government and possibly cut out some of the in-fighting in congress. That would be HUGE change – something Obama will never deliver.
NObama EVER!
Hey – Obama’s tied in ND and ahead in Montana. What an incredible candidate, and one that Senator Clinton strongly endorses.
Hahahahha! Lipstick on a pig, dearie. Besides I thought you didn’t believe in polls.
Keep thinking like Rumsfeld, believe:
so what believe, you guy is not going to win,
the polls say Obama 47 McCain 44, can you tell me why with the terrible job Bush has done Obama is not winning big time?
Because he has been smeared by the hillarites and the msm.
You have not seen ANYTHING yet.
And BTW they are not smears, for that would imply acording to your position , that the truth hurts. Call it a smear if it makes it all warm and fuzzy fer ya. His own actions and behavior are what is writing his next book, “Broken Promises and Outright Lies” it will be publish by the RNC…
PISS OFF, BELIEVE
I feel about Obama and the Un-Democratic party, the same as I feel about Bush and the Repukelicans. I never thought I would say that about my former party, but there it is. If this man is elected/selected/coronated as the next President, we are in big do-do. I find it hard to believe that Americans cannot see what is happening right under their noses. A stadium in Denver to “accept” the Coronation? “Shrugging off” criticism (when someone finally gets the balls to do it) and acting as if he does not need to answer to anything or anyone? Pretending to be a “uniter” instead of a “divider”? So full of himself that he cannot remember why he is present on the stage to help another candidate (finding it hard to think outside himself)? Who does all this remind you of?
Thank goodness I did not drink the kool-aide!
Phoenix Obama remembered. He wanted Hillary to look like an afterthought. Obama is passive aggressive. He does the most obnoxious things and calls them boneheaded mistakes. Make no mistake –Obama is one angry guy who can’t wait to pay us back for not falling in line.
He did it on purpose to make it seem like it was a trivial matter. The same shitty attitude he has toward women coming out. It’s not about me, so it isn’t important.
Ditto for me. But I think the Dem party has actually been this way since Clinton left. I think we just were distracted by what seemed to be Republican tactics. The truth is that Dems have been botching it for a long time.
This year……we all were glued to news and saw it day by day unfold. We saw the idiocy. We saw the lies. We saw the backroom deals.
We saw. It’s like any other awareness. Once aware, you can’t live comfortably in denial any longer.
The Democrats are corporatists just as surely as the Republicans.
somebody needs to remind me why we needed that Democratic majority again. Wasn’t it to stop bad bills from passing and subpoena power to investigate the crimes of the Bush administration? How is the Democratic backbone holding up?
This guy could care less about Hillary Clinton except for what she can do for him- it is called narcissism.
From Wikipedia:
Main article: The Culture of Narcissism
Historian and social critic Christopher Lasch described this topic in his book, “The Culture of Narcissism”,[3] published in 1979.
He defines a narcissistic culture as one in which every activity and relationship is defined by the hedonistic need to acquire the symbols of spiritual wealth, this becoming the only expression of rigid, yet covert, social hierarchies. It is a culture where liberalism only exists insofar as it serves a consumer society, and even art, sex and religion lose their liberating power.
In such a society of constant competition, there can be no allies, and little transparency. The threats to acquisitions of social symbols are so numerous, varied and frequently incomprehensible, that defensiveness, as well as competitiveness, becomes a way of life. Any real sense of community is undermined — or even destroyed — to be replaced by virtual equivalents that strive, unsuccessfully, to synthesize a sense of community. It can mean also many other things.
Hillary is insuring that none of her supporters will go for Obama. Just by being the classy chic she is she makes Obama look like an embarrassment.
s. hall,
Hillary is also painfully aware that if she doesn’t live up to her promise, the media will jump on her with glee and tear her apart.
It’s sickening to watch them try to hide their misogynistic fear of this strong woman, who has clearly out performed all of the men in this presidential race.
For the first time, the American people have gotten a glimpse of what they’ve been missing because of this misogynistic shit.
North Dakota and Montana! North Dakota and Montana!
They named a Subways sandwich after him in Guam, too! Not much between the bread slices, though, except arugula and some stinky stuff.
Now, look, I know this is hard for you bitter old girls to get over, but remember: Barack is endorsed by Jeremiah Wright, Claire McCaskill, Nancy Pelosi, and Hugo Chavez.
Get on board the bobo train, or be left out in the cold, sweeties.
They could at least serve nuts on the side with that sandwich..sheesh.
hugo chavez is dead you moron…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
lol*……OK, now I know you’re a believe clone.
Wright, huh?
(This is entertaining me! A reverse clone theft! Clever, clever.)
That sandwich does sound like Obama
oh, jeez, you are so boring…
Like he did in the 313?
I think the GI’s called that sandwich shit on a shingle.
The media, FOXNews included, is walking a tight rope.
They are being threatened that advertising will be pulled and boycotting the advertising companies by the AA community if they bad mouth BO!
I really have disgust for these tactics. It is a bullying tactics and it needs to be stopped.
It’s really gone too far!!
Well two can play the same game. Lets make a list of the advertisers on CNN, CNBC, ABC, CBS and lets boycott them.
Im on board. pls post the names. I no longer watch MSM. I have a violent dislike for propaganda. If O ever gets a hormone shot and takes on McCain in a debate, I still won’t watch. I do not waste time listening to O at all, no matter what forum.
where did you hear that?
It’s a secret! shhh!
You mean if I tell you any old BO BS you will run home and tell BO?
What Cointel possibilities that has…..feed right into that ego till it crumbles under it’s own weight…
OBAMA SAYS CLINTON SUPPORTERS GIVE ME YOUR MONEY……………..
The Democratic Party has selected a man to run for President that has NO CLASS at all. They have Hillary Clinton on the front line appealing and basically begging her supporters to get behind Obama based on the principals of Party Unity (MY ASS). How does Obama return the favor?
read the story and watch the video from the NY perspective at
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/obamasaysclintonsupportersgivemeyourmoney.aspx
He’s starting to look like Columbo always coming back with ~ ahhhhhhh just one more thing…
Every move he makes is deliberate.
P. O . S. thinks he running to be the President of the Entire World.
Interesting article here entitled “Can the Convention Hurt Obama?” It claims that the reason that he wants his speech to be held in a stadium is that he is afraid that he would be less than enthusiastically received in the convention hall with half of it filled with Hillary supporters. By moving it to a larger venue, they will be drowned out, but the author points some other problems with this too-clever-by-half move.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com
$100,000 that was the “change” he has been talking about all along…
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I don’t think she would stand beside him unless it was a political necessity for her future and her constituents in New York. Any legislation for New York would probably not get a heads up in Congress or the Senate if she didn’t play the game. Unfortunately, many pundits nailed her on live television to commit to supporting Obama if he was the nominee (I didn’t see Obama nailed that way). So to go back on her word would look very bad. Something is up with the DNC about her campaign debt. I’m not sure what it is but unless it is paid off by July 15th it may mean that for sure her name will not be on the roll call. I read an article entitled “Retiring Senator Clinton’s Debt and What The DNC Is Up To” at http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/. I also heard or read that because she is not the presumptive nominee that still having campaign debt when she appears at the convention will automatically deny her the roll call vote. I don’t know if its true but the DNC have made twists and turns on every rule so far. I will always admire Hillary. Something is up that we don’t understand and we may never be privy to it. I actually don’t think President Clinton wants anything to do with Obama and I am soooo glad. The media helped make Obama’s candidacy something which it is not and now its like a runaway train. I don’t think Hillary wants money from Obama’s supporters. We have to get her debt paid by July 15th and I think she would stop campaigning with him. It would only take 175 true blue America loving superdelegates to give the nomination to Hillary at the convention. Think there are that many left in the un-democratic party?
Another thought, if Hillary does ultimately get the nomination, the fact that she has campaigned with Obama as the presumptive nominee, his supporters might go ahead and vote for her in the general. Who knows, just a thought.
and pigs might fly…backwards.
John McCain raised more in June than in May. He raised 22 million. Where are the Obama numbers?
Since February (when his financing peaked) Obama’s fundraising numbers have declined 20% each month.
There was also an article on the front page of the NY Times 2 days ago claiming that Obama donors responded to appeals to pay down Clinton’s debt for the sake of “unity,” with unprintable vulgarities or “Not a dime for that woman…she damaged poor Bawack.” (For daring to compete I guess.) Also, have give very little and expect her to give her life’s blood in return. F*ck that. PAY IT DOWN PEOPLE!
The lines will never be crossed. Any true Dem who crosses to Obama isn’t really a Dem but is just being manipulated with the ‘fear tactics’ of Obamabots.
They’ll keep pushing that ‘what about the SCOTUS’ appointments issue. Well, we’ve seen who Obama aligns himself with on SCOTUS, right? His buddies Clarence Thomas and Scalia.
I honestly see very little difference in him and McCain except that McCain has always proven himself to be somewhat liberal, he has A LOT of experience and he doesn’t seem to be a liar. Can’t say that about Oh-Blah-Blah-Blah-ma.
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Come on folks lets do this get that dam T-shirt, time to send a message to the Obama crew that we don’t need their help in anyway, lets show them!!!!
i don’t get why we have to baby her anyway. she dug herself into this hole. it’s such bullshit that he has to bend over backwards for the loser. i didn’t see Hillary helping Edwards with his campaign debt.
Hey Michael, got nuts.
Well he bends over forward for his friends.
Last year, fans of a CBS program sent over 40,000 pounds of nuts to CBS in protest when the program was canceled. CBS “got” the message, unlike the DNC and brought the program back for one more season.
Maybe the DNC needs to have 40k in nuts sent to them before they’ll get the message that we aren’t voting for Senator Obama.