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	<title>Comments on: Negotiating Democracy: Brazile, Obama Plot to Keep Hillary off Convention Ballot</title>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED ...&lt;/strong&gt;

1. 	Contrary to what Obamabots say ...
	Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,
	when the DNC pressured Hillary into not
	only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.
2. 	Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now
	with McCain, even though Obamabots act like
	Obama has already won (like they did in the
	primaries against Hillary). So, this means that
	half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans
	(3/4 of America) dIdn't want Obama. Plus, he
	didn't even win the popular vote, and refused a
	revote in Michigan and Florida.
3. 	Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and
	he won state legislature and Senator by
	disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned
	experience, or votes.
4.	Obama's one claim to fame is being a community
	organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.
	Then he took their votes away from them, by
	disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior
	to the election.
5.	Obama's mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American
	racist ... not to mention other unsavory associations.
6.	Obama is simply buying the election, since he's
	good at fund raising ... hardly a qualification to be
	President of the United States.
7. 	The media never vetted Obama, and they are
	giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the
	print and air time as McCain, as they did against
	Hillary.
8. 	90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is
	black, while the campaign gained ground by
	accusing most opponents of racism.
9.       Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic
          towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.
10.     Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party ...
           especially a party that did not represent them, and a party
           which highjacked the nomination for Obama.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLACE OBAMA WITH HILLARY AT THE CONVENTION !!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>1. 	Contrary to what Obamabots say &#8230;<br />
	Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,<br />
	when the DNC pressured Hillary into not<br />
	only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.<br />
2. 	Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now<br />
	with McCain, even though Obamabots act like<br />
	Obama has already won (like they did in the<br />
	primaries against Hillary). So, this means that<br />
	half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans<br />
	(3/4 of America) dIdn&#8217;t want Obama. Plus, he<br />
	didn&#8217;t even win the popular vote, and refused a<br />
	revote in Michigan and Florida.<br />
3. 	Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and<br />
	he won state legislature and Senator by<br />
	disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned<br />
	experience, or votes.<br />
4.	Obama&#8217;s one claim to fame is being a community<br />
	organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.<br />
	Then he took their votes away from them, by<br />
	disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior<br />
	to the election.<br />
5.	Obama&#8217;s mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American<br />
	racist &#8230; not to mention other unsavory associations.<br />
6.	Obama is simply buying the election, since he&#8217;s<br />
	good at fund raising &#8230; hardly a qualification to be<br />
	President of the United States.<br />
7. 	The media never vetted Obama, and they are<br />
	giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the<br />
	print and air time as McCain, as they did against<br />
	Hillary.<br />
8. 	90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is<br />
	black, while the campaign gained ground by<br />
	accusing most opponents of racism.<br />
9.       Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic<br />
          towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.<br />
10.     Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party &#8230;<br />
           especially a party that did not represent them, and a party<br />
           which highjacked the nomination for Obama.</p>
<p><strong>REPLACE OBAMA WITH HILLARY AT THE CONVENTION !!!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: cldenco</title>
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		<dc:creator>cldenco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is NOT true that anybody "stole" anything from Ms. Clinton. Not Barack Obama. Not the DNC. Nobody. 

You need to see this, as nothing of the kind happened. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag96O9_6eXU&amp;feature=related

This entire fiasco is a cynical exercise in propagand by vengeful Hillary supporters who are in denial of reality, and by those on the Right who want to fan the flames of discord within the Democratic Party and take advantage of the chaos and enmity to siphon-off votes for John McCain, who will do nothing but continue the Republican Party's reign of terror that has nearly destroyed America.

What really happened was very simple. Humbling perhaps, and frustrating perhaps, but nonetheless true.

Hillary's people believed she was a slam dunk. To their surprise and horror, Obama ran a much better campaign, raised more money than Hillary and came from behind to take a decisive lead.

In the final months of the campaign, Hillary and Bill played major league hard ball Karl Rove style in attacking Obama, and yes THEY played the race card and the sexism card. There is more than abundant proof of this, if you will simply Google the subject and stick to sources of factual information as opposed to partisan commentary from people who are determined to manufacture controversy and smear Obama, no matter what actually happened .

In a final act of desperation as her ship was going down, Hillary's campaign tried to get the band to play a song by demanding that the DNC reverse its decision to disallow the votes from Michigan and Florida ... a rules decision that had been made in full compliance with a signed agreement that was reached early in the campaign between the DNC and all of Democratic contenders, including Clinton and Obama.

There was nothing unfair, prejudicial or crooked in what happened.

Take a look at the video and you will see what Hillary's campaign manager initially said to the DNC in writing on the subject of the rules agreement, then what Hillary said herself in October 2007 in continuing to agree with the rule, then what they said in the final weeks of the campaign when it was clear that she was about to lose the nomination and they were doing everything possible to avert it.

The DNC has been accused of denying Hillary what was rightfully hers, and Obama has been attacked as the evil and duplicitous equivalent of The Joker who purportedly was behind the injustice. Nothing of the kind is true.

In point of fact, the DNC bent over backwards in trying to resolve the issue equitably. According to the rules and the agreement that had been in place since the beginning of the campaign, the DNC could have and probably should have said NO to Hillary's last-minute Hail Mary pass. What they did do was compromise, in allowing a proportionately equitable percentage of the votes to count. This is not only NOT unfair, it was a substantial concessions that the DNC did not have to make.

Did Obama's people object to Hillary's attempt to get the rules changed at the last minute, for her benefit and no other? Well yes (duh), and rightfully so. Would you be OK with playing poker in a game in which your opponent can get the designated wild cards changed based upon what she's holding in her hand, or get her pair of Queens to beat your 3 nines when there's a big pot at stake? No, you wouldn't, and neither did Barack Obama. He was not one bit out of line in resisting Hillary's flat-out attempt to "steal" the thing herself. Could we please get real here?

It is abundantly clear that Hillary lost to Obama fair and square, and that the sour grapes and accusations of mistreatment are totally unwarranted. 

For some of Hillary's supporters to refuse to support the candidate she has personally asked you to support, and to be cooking up schemes for derailing the Convention and throwing the election to another Republican, is an unimaginable ruthless, malevolent and selfish thing to do. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is NOT true that anybody &#8220;stole&#8221; anything from Ms. Clinton. Not Barack Obama. Not the DNC. Nobody. </p>
<p>You need to see this, as nothing of the kind happened. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag96O9_6eXU&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag96O9_6eXU&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>This entire fiasco is a cynical exercise in propagand by vengeful Hillary supporters who are in denial of reality, and by those on the Right who want to fan the flames of discord within the Democratic Party and take advantage of the chaos and enmity to siphon-off votes for John McCain, who will do nothing but continue the Republican Party&#8217;s reign of terror that has nearly destroyed America.</p>
<p>What really happened was very simple. Humbling perhaps, and frustrating perhaps, but nonetheless true.</p>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s people believed she was a slam dunk. To their surprise and horror, Obama ran a much better campaign, raised more money than Hillary and came from behind to take a decisive lead.</p>
<p>In the final months of the campaign, Hillary and Bill played major league hard ball Karl Rove style in attacking Obama, and yes THEY played the race card and the sexism card. There is more than abundant proof of this, if you will simply Google the subject and stick to sources of factual information as opposed to partisan commentary from people who are determined to manufacture controversy and smear Obama, no matter what actually happened .</p>
<p>In a final act of desperation as her ship was going down, Hillary&#8217;s campaign tried to get the band to play a song by demanding that the DNC reverse its decision to disallow the votes from Michigan and Florida &#8230; a rules decision that had been made in full compliance with a signed agreement that was reached early in the campaign between the DNC and all of Democratic contenders, including Clinton and Obama.</p>
<p>There was nothing unfair, prejudicial or crooked in what happened.</p>
<p>Take a look at the video and you will see what Hillary&#8217;s campaign manager initially said to the DNC in writing on the subject of the rules agreement, then what Hillary said herself in October 2007 in continuing to agree with the rule, then what they said in the final weeks of the campaign when it was clear that she was about to lose the nomination and they were doing everything possible to avert it.</p>
<p>The DNC has been accused of denying Hillary what was rightfully hers, and Obama has been attacked as the evil and duplicitous equivalent of The Joker who purportedly was behind the injustice. Nothing of the kind is true.</p>
<p>In point of fact, the DNC bent over backwards in trying to resolve the issue equitably. According to the rules and the agreement that had been in place since the beginning of the campaign, the DNC could have and probably should have said NO to Hillary&#8217;s last-minute Hail Mary pass. What they did do was compromise, in allowing a proportionately equitable percentage of the votes to count. This is not only NOT unfair, it was a substantial concessions that the DNC did not have to make.</p>
<p>Did Obama&#8217;s people object to Hillary&#8217;s attempt to get the rules changed at the last minute, for her benefit and no other? Well yes (duh), and rightfully so. Would you be OK with playing poker in a game in which your opponent can get the designated wild cards changed based upon what she&#8217;s holding in her hand, or get her pair of Queens to beat your 3 nines when there&#8217;s a big pot at stake? No, you wouldn&#8217;t, and neither did Barack Obama. He was not one bit out of line in resisting Hillary&#8217;s flat-out attempt to &#8220;steal&#8221; the thing herself. Could we please get real here?</p>
<p>It is abundantly clear that Hillary lost to Obama fair and square, and that the sour grapes and accusations of mistreatment are totally unwarranted. </p>
<p>For some of Hillary&#8217;s supporters to refuse to support the candidate she has personally asked you to support, and to be cooking up schemes for derailing the Convention and throwing the election to another Republican, is an unimaginable ruthless, malevolent and selfish thing to do. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: MucheDumbre &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Hills have ayes&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>MucheDumbre &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Hills have ayes&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hills have ayes&#8230; Written by ekg on July 17, 2008 &#8211; 4:37 pm -  Rumors  have been swirling that Obama,Dean and Pelosi are trying to negotiate Hillary’s name off of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hills have ayes&#8230; Written by ekg on July 17, 2008 &#8211; 4:37 pm -  Rumors  have been swirling that Obama,Dean and Pelosi are trying to negotiate Hillary’s name off of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>honestly, only states in play for Obama have to vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee.

Since I live in a very red state, I can abstain with no worry that McCain won't win the electoral votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honestly, only states in play for Obama have to vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee.</p>
<p>Since I live in a very red state, I can abstain with no worry that McCain won&#8217;t win the electoral votes.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna Brazille is an ass...now I know why CNN is so pro-Obama!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna Brazille is an ass&#8230;now I know why CNN is so pro-Obama!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean's excuse for forcing super delegates to pick sides before the convention was that we couldn't let it go on until late August.  All part of the plan as the party that is out office is supposed to have their convention in July followed by incumbent party in August.  He changed the rules because of the Olympics, which haven't even started yet.  Plan may backfire as it gives Hillary folks time to recover from the coup announcement, and organize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean&#8217;s excuse for forcing super delegates to pick sides before the convention was that we couldn&#8217;t let it go on until late August.  All part of the plan as the party that is out office is supposed to have their convention in July followed by incumbent party in August.  He changed the rules because of the Olympics, which haven&#8217;t even started yet.  Plan may backfire as it gives Hillary folks time to recover from the coup announcement, and organize.</p>
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		<title>By: hodson</title>
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		<dc:creator>hodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust that all people in the Denver Group are sacrificing to pay off Hillary's debt.  She will be appreciative.  Does she actively support the Denver Group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust that all people in the Denver Group are sacrificing to pay off Hillary&#8217;s debt.  She will be appreciative.  Does she actively support the Denver Group?</p>
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		<title>By: Whiteytape's Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiteytape's Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Whitey tape - the truth is out&#160;there&lt;/strong&gt;

THE WHITEY TAPE HAS LANDED!!!!!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Whitey tape - the truth is out&nbsp;there</strong></p>
<p>THE WHITEY TAPE HAS LANDED!!!!!</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add to that I am shocked that the Party allowed caucus votes to REVERSE PRIMARY votes and the winner of the state was not given delegates but the loser of the primary was????

The party has become so undemocratic, are they democrats now or have they simply adopted the rules of the GOP????

No longer can the Party Dean indicate they care about every vote counting. They didnt count them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add to that I am shocked that the Party allowed caucus votes to REVERSE PRIMARY votes and the winner of the state was not given delegates but the loser of the primary was????</p>
<p>The party has become so undemocratic, are they democrats now or have they simply adopted the rules of the GOP????</p>
<p>No longer can the Party Dean indicate they care about every vote counting. They didnt count them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put Hilliary's name in the nomination and alert superdelegates that its time they began being honest.

Obama has made promises and already flip flopped.
The more I see he in action, the more the truth of Bill Clintons remark that his position on the war and how he WOULD Have voted is a FAIRY TALE.  HE proved that already with FISA and Faith Based Initiatives.  Clinton was not being racist, Bill was simply evaluating the man and the way he votes.  Present always in Illinois but rarely with a definitive stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put Hilliary&#8217;s name in the nomination and alert superdelegates that its time they began being honest.</p>
<p>Obama has made promises and already flip flopped.<br />
The more I see he in action, the more the truth of Bill Clintons remark that his position on the war and how he WOULD Have voted is a FAIRY TALE.  HE proved that already with FISA and Faith Based Initiatives.  Clinton was not being racist, Bill was simply evaluating the man and the way he votes.  Present always in Illinois but rarely with a definitive stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt; I am appalled that DONNA BRAZILE would even consider stifling the votes of 18 Million plus voters! THIS will assuredly DEFEAT Obama on his road to the Presidency if Hillary Clinton who "suspended" her campaign but did not quit is not allowed to be on the roll call! IT will certainly show that this is a PARTY of SOCIALIST PIGS and NOT of Democracy! Everyone as disturbed by this as I am fire off some letters to the DNC!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> I am appalled that DONNA BRAZILE would even consider stifling the votes of 18 Million plus voters! THIS will assuredly DEFEAT Obama on his road to the Presidency if Hillary Clinton who &#8220;suspended&#8221; her campaign but did not quit is not allowed to be on the roll call! IT will certainly show that this is a PARTY of SOCIALIST PIGS and NOT of Democracy! Everyone as disturbed by this as I am fire off some letters to the DNC!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remember to join the Penny Protest. Go to this site http://www.hillarysupporters.com/PennyProtest.pdf and follow the directions to send a penny to the DNC.  Then email PennyProtest@gmail.com so that this can get some press coverage if we get a critical mass.  

Let Dean and company know that we do not support the nomination of an inexperience, arrogant and unpredictable nominee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember to join the Penny Protest. Go to this site <a href="http://www.hillarysupporters.com/PennyProtest.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillarysupporters.com/PennyProtest.pdf</a> and follow the directions to send a penny to the DNC.  Then email <a href="mailto:PennyProtest@gmail.com">PennyProtest@gmail.com</a> so that this can get some press coverage if we get a critical mass.  </p>
<p>Let Dean and company know that we do not support the nomination of an inexperience, arrogant and unpredictable nominee.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCa</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnninCa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right.  We must not be stupid here and think this is about Obama.  I'm convinced the guy meant it when he said, "I'm not ready to run for president."  I think he was talked into it, assured he'd have the backing of Washington insiders, and away we go!

This movement needs to focus on the party processes and demand, demand, demand change.  The ONLY way we're going to accomplish that is by voting smart and backing candidates whom we persuade to run on OUR values.

First order of the day after this fiasco is over:  Revision of the distribution of delegates.  We saw all too clearly how this ruined it for the party.  Traditional, truly registered Democrats, voted in state after state for Hillary.  Obama got very little support from them.  Yet, he got an inordinate number of delegates out of the system.

Second order of the day are DNC rules about caucuses, two-stepping, and a consistent guidelines that allow for oversight.  I wouldn't suggest we go back to IDs.  That smacks of voter repression, and we've been there, done that.  I would suggest we go to caucus rules that are uniform, including how to count the popular vote and turn in numbers.

Third order of the day is to eliminate SDs entirely.  Obviously, that was a plan that worked in the past and failed now.  Pelosi and Dean sold the country on the notion that the one with the most delegates wins.  OK, but then there's no need for SDs at all.  That's a rubber-stamp deal.  So eliminate them.  End of story.  She sold that concept down the river, so let them suffer the consequences of it.

Fourth order of the day is re-establish the importance of campaign finance reform.  Obama has trashed it.  This business of grass-roots is great, but the money being spent is obscene and wasteful.  Hillary raised shitloads of money and it wasn't enough?  That's nuts.  No candidate needs to run ads like Obama did or even put that many paid staffers in states.  It's going to completely ruin elections and we'll pay the price even more than in the past.

Fifth order of the day is a DNC methodology for vetting candidates.  I'd like to see a standard set for disclosure.  Let's get this crap out of the campaign rhetoric altogether.  Pinch it in the bud.  Require tax returns, birth certificates, school records, work resumes, etc. up front.  

I can think of other improvements, but there is a lot we could change that would stop the chaos.  

Enough already of the manipulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right.  We must not be stupid here and think this is about Obama.  I&#8217;m convinced the guy meant it when he said, &#8220;I&#8217;m not ready to run for president.&#8221;  I think he was talked into it, assured he&#8217;d have the backing of Washington insiders, and away we go!</p>
<p>This movement needs to focus on the party processes and demand, demand, demand change.  The ONLY way we&#8217;re going to accomplish that is by voting smart and backing candidates whom we persuade to run on OUR values.</p>
<p>First order of the day after this fiasco is over:  Revision of the distribution of delegates.  We saw all too clearly how this ruined it for the party.  Traditional, truly registered Democrats, voted in state after state for Hillary.  Obama got very little support from them.  Yet, he got an inordinate number of delegates out of the system.</p>
<p>Second order of the day are DNC rules about caucuses, two-stepping, and a consistent guidelines that allow for oversight.  I wouldn&#8217;t suggest we go back to IDs.  That smacks of voter repression, and we&#8217;ve been there, done that.  I would suggest we go to caucus rules that are uniform, including how to count the popular vote and turn in numbers.</p>
<p>Third order of the day is to eliminate SDs entirely.  Obviously, that was a plan that worked in the past and failed now.  Pelosi and Dean sold the country on the notion that the one with the most delegates wins.  OK, but then there&#8217;s no need for SDs at all.  That&#8217;s a rubber-stamp deal.  So eliminate them.  End of story.  She sold that concept down the river, so let them suffer the consequences of it.</p>
<p>Fourth order of the day is re-establish the importance of campaign finance reform.  Obama has trashed it.  This business of grass-roots is great, but the money being spent is obscene and wasteful.  Hillary raised shitloads of money and it wasn&#8217;t enough?  That&#8217;s nuts.  No candidate needs to run ads like Obama did or even put that many paid staffers in states.  It&#8217;s going to completely ruin elections and we&#8217;ll pay the price even more than in the past.</p>
<p>Fifth order of the day is a DNC methodology for vetting candidates.  I&#8217;d like to see a standard set for disclosure.  Let&#8217;s get this crap out of the campaign rhetoric altogether.  Pinch it in the bud.  Require tax returns, birth certificates, school records, work resumes, etc. up front.  </p>
<p>I can think of other improvements, but there is a lot we could change that would stop the chaos.  </p>
<p>Enough already of the manipulations.</p>
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		<title>By: HillGirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CALL HILLARY'S NAME!  SHE HAS EARNED THAT RIGHT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CALL HILLARY&#8217;S NAME!  SHE HAS EARNED THAT RIGHT!</p>
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		<title>By: HillGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>HillGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did Donnaobamalamadingding get sooo much power? If what HillBuzz said is true - she has been plotting "Obamania" since 2004 (after Kerry's defeat).  
She nearly made me choke on my breakfast when she had the gall on Sunday morning TV - 2 days BEFORE the last primary - that "there already is a nominee".  Well, excuse me - let the voters get their say in first. She has got some nerve! 
Furthermore, that indicated to me that 1. she was already a &lt;strong&gt;declared&lt;/strong&gt; superdelegate (even though she refused to say otherwise during that interview and 2. That the whole committee meeting to seat MI and FL was going to prove to be a farce (and it was).
Yep, she manipulated this whole thing from the get-go. Stealing undeclared delegates and giving them to Obama. And, 4 of Hillary's to boot!  
I hope that Deaner, Plastic Pelosi and Brazile get their asses handed to them this November. 
They need to get fired!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did Donnaobamalamadingding get sooo much power? If what HillBuzz said is true - she has been plotting &#8220;Obamania&#8221; since 2004 (after Kerry&#8217;s defeat).<br />
She nearly made me choke on my breakfast when she had the gall on Sunday morning TV - 2 days BEFORE the last primary - that &#8220;there already is a nominee&#8221;.  Well, excuse me - let the voters get their say in first. She has got some nerve!<br />
Furthermore, that indicated to me that 1. she was already a <strong>declared</strong> superdelegate (even though she refused to say otherwise during that interview and 2. That the whole committee meeting to seat MI and FL was going to prove to be a farce (and it was).<br />
Yep, she manipulated this whole thing from the get-go. Stealing undeclared delegates and giving them to Obama. And, 4 of Hillary&#8217;s to boot!<br />
I hope that Deaner, Plastic Pelosi and Brazile get their asses handed to them this November.<br />
They need to get fired!!</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore and his campaign made the decision not to ask Bill Clinton to campaign with him. That was a big mistake because Pres. Clinton had an approval rating in the sixty percentile when he left office and he definitely could have made a difference in Arkansas. That may have been Brazil's decision, who knows? I believe Pres. Clinton offered and was turned down. He was out campaigning for Kerry just weeks after his heart surgery. When did loyalty stop being a virtue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore and his campaign made the decision not to ask Bill Clinton to campaign with him. That was a big mistake because Pres. Clinton had an approval rating in the sixty percentile when he left office and he definitely could have made a difference in Arkansas. That may have been Brazil&#8217;s decision, who knows? I believe Pres. Clinton offered and was turned down. He was out campaigning for Kerry just weeks after his heart surgery. When did loyalty stop being a virtue?</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this, Matthew. It's wonderful news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this, Matthew. It&#8217;s wonderful news.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't Keyes also running again? I think he'll also go after Obama with a vengeance. They can't use the race card against him.

I think I also should have written ultra conservative or ultra liberal stances so long as they also work with the other side. They wouldn't very well be Democrats or Republicans if they didn't have conservative or liberal ideas. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Keyes also running again? I think he&#8217;ll also go after Obama with a vengeance. They can&#8217;t use the race card against him.</p>
<p>I think I also should have written ultra conservative or ultra liberal stances so long as they also work with the other side. They wouldn&#8217;t very well be Democrats or Republicans if they didn&#8217;t have conservative or liberal ideas. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N.O.W is worthless. Their protests against sexism were pathetic. Maybe they were afraid of being labeled racist, but it just seems the courage is no longer there. After Montana and South Dakota, they put an absurd vote on their website inviting members to cast their vote for the most offensive media attackers on Hillary. That is the only women's organization I haven't resigned from and that will happen soon. I guess it's just nostalgia for what they used to be that has kept me in this long. 

The ACLU might participate in a class action suit on the grounds of sexual discrimination or harrasment by the media. Do you think? It would be too little and too late to change the outcome of the convention, but it could change media coverage in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N.O.W is worthless. Their protests against sexism were pathetic. Maybe they were afraid of being labeled racist, but it just seems the courage is no longer there. After Montana and South Dakota, they put an absurd vote on their website inviting members to cast their vote for the most offensive media attackers on Hillary. That is the only women&#8217;s organization I haven&#8217;t resigned from and that will happen soon. I guess it&#8217;s just nostalgia for what they used to be that has kept me in this long. </p>
<p>The ACLU might participate in a class action suit on the grounds of sexual discrimination or harrasment by the media. Do you think? It would be too little and too late to change the outcome of the convention, but it could change media coverage in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure if I can do that. I really like Diane Feinstein. The next time she comes up for election I will vote for her again. I won't vote for any other's here. I've been told Arnold might be running against Boxer, that might not go well for her if he does. But, if Hillary is not the nominee I will definately vote for McCain. 

I'm no longer declared so I get to choose the party ticket I wish to vote on. I think from now on I'm going to be looking at their records closely and only voting for those that do work with the other side on both sides. No more radicals on either side. I don't mind Republicans being conservative on some issues, or Democrats being liberal on some issues. I just want to see and know they also work as well with the other side. Together for us all. Life is full of compromises, they need to get over themselves and know it's no different for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I can do that. I really like Diane Feinstein. The next time she comes up for election I will vote for her again. I won&#8217;t vote for any other&#8217;s here. I&#8217;ve been told Arnold might be running against Boxer, that might not go well for her if he does. But, if Hillary is not the nominee I will definately vote for McCain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no longer declared so I get to choose the party ticket I wish to vote on. I think from now on I&#8217;m going to be looking at their records closely and only voting for those that do work with the other side on both sides. No more radicals on either side. I don&#8217;t mind Republicans being conservative on some issues, or Democrats being liberal on some issues. I just want to see and know they also work as well with the other side. Together for us all. Life is full of compromises, they need to get over themselves and know it&#8217;s no different for them.</p>
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