By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry JohnsonName: Larry Johnson Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net Site:http://NoQuarterUSA.net About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on July 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM in Current Affairs
The fundraising machine Sen. Barack Obama is relying on to overwhelm Sen. John McCain this fall has shown signs of wear in recent weeks, as Internet contributions have slowed and efforts to recruit top donors to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign have been beset by lingering tensions.
Apparently no one told Mr. “I Went to Harvard Cuz I Am So Smart” that the next phase of fundraising for the Presidential campaign would depend on attracting Hillary supporters and disaffected Republicans. Why?Under our campaign finance laws a person can only give $4600 to a candidate. Once you reach that limit you cannot give more to that person.
What do you do after you have tapped out your own true believers? Who is left? I count at least four categories of potential donors–Hillary supporters, those who wanted other democrats besides Hillary and Obama, uncommitted independents, and disaffected Republicans. It stands to reason then that Obama must reach out to these folks. He needs to make nice. So what is he doing?
Not too good. He fell far short of his fundraising goals for the second quarter. He’s down according to some sources by more than 70%. So who is responsible for this brewing debacle? Hillary of course. Obama and his posse are blaiming Hillary for his fundraising woes and–surprise, surprise–scapegoating Hillary for his own failings. The man is a putz.
While Obama trails John McCain’s fundraising he has found a scapegoat in Hillary. His campaign excuse that he can’t raise money because he is helping pay off her debt is either just one more Obama tall tale, an alibi for his own shortcoming, or exposes an astonishing lack of knowledge about simple campaign finance.
What’s the true story? Obama dropped out of the presidential campaign financing system in the belief that he could outraise and outspend McCain after making campaign finance one of the key planks of his campaign during the primaries, the crucial evidence of his integrity on reform. Well, never mind.
Having slipped away from his promise, Obama skirted away from other promises–that he would filibuster Bush’s FISA bill, instead voting for it, or that he would be a champion of choice for women, now cowardly taking a macho stand against imaginary frivolous and flighty women who he says claim to be just “feeling blue” when they have late-term abortions.
Unsurprisingly, Obama’s naive supporters, gulled into thinking that the One was the second coming, slowly, ever so slowly, ever so slightly, opened their shut eyes a sliver and saw a Chicago politician, and a crude one at that, who has played them like an accordion. So the money gusher has slowed.
And how is that outreach to Hillary supporters going? We reported last week on this blog that Obama bombed in his first effort to woo Hillary money people (see Obama Bombs). Turns out that wretch of a journalist, Bob Novak, stumbled belatedly on the same facts. In his column yesterday Novak “reported:”
“I would say he was pretty underwhelming,” a longtime Democratic activist said several days after he and some 200 other big-money supporters of Hillary Clinton’s failed presidential campaign met with the victor, Barack Obama, in Washington on June 26. Gus will support and contribute to Obama as the party’s nominee, but he is not enthusiastic about it.
He is not alone. After the closed-door session in the Renaissance Mayflower Hotel’s ballroom, Gus was among 20 participants who gathered for drinks to talk it over. They agreed that it was not an “exciting performance” by the candidate who has entranced monster rallies across the country. Obama was “low-key” in a perfunctory appeal to them.
Who does Obama blame? Hillary, of course. While promising to clear up her debt as a token of his good faith in unifying the party–who can forget that Obama campaigned as Mr. Unity?–Obama has done little on that score. Here’s the rub: Contributing to Hillary has no relationship–zero, zilch, nada, nil, nothing–to do with Obama’s fundraising. An Obama contributor who has maxed out to Obama can give the maximum amount to Hillary without any conflict. There is no strain, especially for big contributors. But Obama hasn’t fulfilled his part of the deal, while Hillary this week raised $4.1 million from her contributors for him in New York. Obama took the stage and forgot, just one of those Freudian slips, to ask for money for Hillary–until he left the stage and the press reminded he had not done what he had come to do.
Then, the Obama campaign has leaked to the press that it’s all Hillary’s greedy fault that he is falling short on his fundraising targets. But it’s really Obama’s shiftiness and broken promises that are the root of his problem. Mr. Bamboozle keeps doing the okie doke but he is going broke. Instead of rolling in dough he is wallowing in woe. Way to go Mr. Unity.
UPDATE: Here is Will Bowers on Fox. Disturbing video of the “Brilliant” Barack Obama forgetting to ask for money for Hillary.
The idea of blaming Hillary is pretty self defeating. If he thinks the way to get Clinton supporters to open their wallets (and purses) to him is to continue to bash her, he has another thing coming.
Obama is being just as nice to Hillary Rotten Clinton as she has always been to him. What would Obama look like kissing her tired old butt while she continues to undercut him? Hillary will get her due props, but that’s it. Obama is in charge and nobody’s going to bowl him over. Hillary lost, get over it. Ding Dong, the witch is dead.
knowbody–your pissy attitude is precisely why HRC supporters won’t support your messiah candidate–ever! BTY, Obama doesn’t officially have the delegates, thus the nomination. With all the uproar over about-face Obama on the matters of FISA, faith-based organizations, guns, the war, abortion, election financing, etc. many are defecting from your camp. And for those who still haven’t defected, they are withholding $ from your candidate. I guess Obama opting out of gov financing was a bit precipitous!
Larry, please give me a quote from Obama where he is ‘blaming’ Hillary for being short of his fundraising goals (if he even is…you prove nothing of the sort)! Asking Obama donors to pay Hillary’s debt (to Mark Penn no less) is a little bit over the top…the big donors can do that, but you can’t expect the majority of us to cry over the fact that she did not manage her money - and DNC can help her out.
stop your ridiculous allegations Larry - unless you can prove them, okay? Your status in the blogging world has fallen - don’t you want to bring it back up again?
Click the link. It’s the title of the article, based on interviews with his campaign.
I’ve not been able to find the article, but I read awhile back that Penn is taking a deep cut in his consulting fees. He is considered a “soft” debt and not a part of what Hillary is working to reduce. His fees are, obviously, negotiable.
I’ve just not bothered to correct you Obamabots, since you love to be bitter that she ran a campaign. Punishment is your deal. The message is consistent. MAKE HER SUFFER!
Which is also why you’re not getting any money for her supporters who actually sent in money and worked for her. That attitude is just poor sportsmanship. Gloaters feel good for a minute, but they lose in the long run.
But….don’t even worry your pea-brain at all. We’ve got her back. We gave you guys a chance at unity, and you blew it.
We’re paying it off. And we don’t need your 10 bucks.
Every candidate ends a campaign with debt, and Clinton had a large operation that reflected extraordinary primary season. So stop Obamabot bleating about Clinton’s “management.” She did great and so did her campaign, particularly the last few months when they really pulled it together. She outshone Obama by miles. And still does. I’ve noticed that Obama pulled in less cash than he spent at the end as well.
It’s tradition for one candidate to pay off his/her opponent’s debt when s/he is presumed the nominee. This said, we should not count on Obama to do the right thing. Let’s keep contributing to HRC until her debt is paid off. I’m donated $50 this week and will continue to do so until her debt is erased.
Of course his fundraisers are not obligated to pay off her debt. Her fundraiser and supporters are not obligated to donate to him or vote for him at Convention. He has no obligation to choose her as his running mate if he wins and she has no obligation to choose him, if she wins. No one has an obligation to unify the party and win the general election. BTW. President Andrea Merkel of Germany also seems to think she has no obligation to allow him to make a speech at the Brandenburg Bridge and has said so. Hillary has no obligation to campaign for him. She has clearly done her part. Bill Clinton is not obligated to endorse him or campaign for him and I can’t understand why the media thinks he should. If they think Bill is going to kiss the ring they are crazy. He has already said Obama can kiss his ass, which Obama has no obligation to do. No obligations here to even reply to your comments or listen to you insult Hillary yet again. I’m not obligated to give you advise, but I will anyway. Never underestimate Bill and Hillary Clinton. “I’ll never give up and I’ll never give in’”. may be too subtle for you.
This might come as a huuuuuuge surprise to you little pissants, but the VAST majority of America goes to work every day. When they come home, the first thoughts in their minds do not include rushing to the computer to read Daily Kos. In fact, they don’t even know who Daily Kos and HUFFPO are. Walk down the street and ask a hundred strangers over 25 and you will find that out. Most people are too busy supporting people under 25 to care about bloggers. The fact is, there are more of them than there are of you. So your “blogging community” bleating is laughable.
As for blaming Hillary or us “Insignificant” PUMA/JSND people, I’m just fine with taking blame. We aren’t going to give that sexist piggish Changeling hoax one dime. Same goes for the DNC. Let them eat Obama buttons.
You all bought into your bullshit hype that we are all “downscale” and have no money. You all pretend you are hot shit. The Joke’s on you. Most of us are supporting at least one of you pissants so that you can appear “upscale”. We have advanced degrees and we have earned our nuts. So when you say you don’t need us, you are wrong. We are the reason Barky Obama is going to dry up. If I dropped a penny on the ground I would step on his hand if he tried to pick it up.
Get out your calculator because I know your gen can’t add without one. Let’s talk numbers. The polls say there are between 10 percent and 25 percent of Hillary supporters who have no use for Barack Obama. WHich poll you choose to believe doesn’t matter a whit, because the total of the bodies adds up to between 1,800,000 and 4,500,000. Either way, that’s enough to send that hoaxy sack of crap you worship packing. And we will do it too.
I guess he will just have to tap more Pakistani duel citizens to get his money because Hillary’s major donors have just about told him to crap in his hat and put it on his head.
If Barack Obama blames Hillary, and the history of him tells us he always blames somebody else for his own shortcomings, then we Hillary supporters he “doesn’t need” are proud to take the rap. How’s that?
So Elizabeth obama should have carte blanche over Hillary’s supporters who have raised 4.1 million for the fraud and his supporters only cough up 100k….LOL you are a hypocrit, thats all right though we Hillary supporters have raised just about the amount needed to pay down her debt, haven’t heard if we hit the mark or not, but obama won’t have anyone to blame in a short while.
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Hillary supporters are paying off her campaign debt, as we should because she stood for everything we wanted to believe in America and we are willing to pay for this message.
We don’t need your help and have never asked for it, Obama. Get out of our campaign because you are not needed and you are not welcome. You stand for everything we cannot stand.
Go to Hillary.com and send in your $10 and $20 because there are millions of us and we add up and Obama knows this now no matter how contemptuously he has tried to dismiss us.
Notice the full-court grovel Obama is pandering now to get our support. And how good it feels to kick him in the face now, instead of having felt his vicious, smirking blows all through out the campaign while he pretended he alone was taking the higher road in this race. Baloney. Eat that, Obama.
Well dear Elizabeth, Hillary has helped him raise millions and what does he do but forget to even ask his donors at a fund raiser for her.
We PUMA’s have almost wiped out her debt so we don’t need him anymore, Screw him and that Bernie Mac that opened at the Chicago Fund Raiser last night. What a real man he is? Bernie Mac should be tarred and feathered and rode out of town on a rail for talking the way he did last night but then what can we expect it’s Chicago and Obama is his buddy. How disgusting, what maggots those two are.
I wonder if he’s aware of the economy and how it’s affecting every day people trying to figure out how to put gas in their car and milk in their kid’s glasses.
Yeah don’t worry, one of those billionaire Pakistanis will stop by, hand him a check and have plenty of time to get back home and set his wife on fire.
Yes, after posting here that he fell from an expected $50M to about $30M, I read that his campaign did indeed project a “monster” month of $100M. So, indeed…70% short. EX-Cell-unt!
Comment by Dave_Not_for_Obama
| 2008-07-11 22:46:29
Comment by Jack | 2008-07-11 22:02:40
Obama raised more than $30 million in June: campaign
Obanbi’s goal was $450 million to $550 million by Nov 2008, that’s approx. $100 million/month, so the $30 million is 70% off the stated goal. Looks good on him anyway, couldn’t happen to a bigger prick.
Even his $30 million/month to Nov 2008 gives him
$150 million, which is almost twice as much as McCain, hardly a level playing field, yet McCain is holding his own and then some.
What needs to happen is his donations to dwindle even more (as I suspect). I mean even his kool-aid drinkers are starting to see the guy is an arrogant, flake, flip flopper.
John McCain’s campaign manager told reporters today that Republicans are looking at amassing a combined $400 million war chest for the general election campaign against Barack Obama.
Don’t forget the national parties. They are used for ground organization, advertising, and GOTV efforts. The RNC has been KILLING the DNC in fundraising, and the RNC group has a ton more money for the convention than does the DNC group.
McCain has it going through others. Issue ads and 527s will become carniverous soon enough.
Obama has tried to control the money to control the message. All it did was decrease the practipation of others.
He could of course try and attract voters on issues, but he’s used much of those items as fodder to his move to some imaginary middle.
So the issue and platform messages become weaker, and he still sin’t getting the money. Terrible assumption on his part that everyone buys into him instead of their political cause issues.
You read my mind, Mr. Natural. Never underestimate Bill Clinton. He was the only guy that could rescue the dead loser party from its funk and they will regret the day they villified him for it. Fun Fun Fun!
Oh yeah…..Denver is way pissed! It’s a huge issue that is hurting the mayor a lot.
The DNC missed its payment schedule already. Denver is relying on a kiss and a promise.
Probably that was more behind the stupid stadium deal than anything….the promise of a huge influx of business to offset the fact that the DNC can’t pay its bills.
Well, I left the Dem party because of their arrogance and the fact they think I’m half as good as anyone else. Dean and his buddies did anything they could to anoint their messiah. Well, looks like they have him and what good is it going to do them? I’ve always given to the Dem party in the past but this time, all they’ve received from me is a penny and a half of a check. Ha!
The Bots continue on the other boards and blogs, to viciously attack those who supported Clinton and anyone who doesn’t agree with them. So they’re not helping in the least.
Clearly Obama isn’t helping with his flip-flops and lies. Neither is Mee-shell.
So where’s all them thar big bucks a’gonna come from, Mister Obamer?
Why’d he do that? Because he’s a narcissist. As such, at his core he sincerely believes that it’s all about him–wonderful him!–and not about anything boring like accomplishments, abilities, and all that Old Politics claptrap.
Group aims to cause DNC chaos The Denver Post Jul 12, ‘08 3:26 AM
for everyone
In Denver this weekend, a group of anarchists who have pledged to disrupt the Democratic National Convention will hold a secret action camp to learn about medical training and legal rights and to practice nonviolent tactics.
“We don’t want history to remember the Democratic National Convention in Denver as something that went smoothly,” said Tim Simons with the self-described anarchist group, Unconventional Denver.
“We want people to know there was dissent and people spoke up,” he said.
In the meantime, local governments in the region are inking contracts to send hundreds of law enforcement officers into Denver during the last week of August to work the convention.
Aurora will send nearly half its force to Denver, Jefferson County will ship more than 100 deputies and Arapahoe County is expecting to add 100.
Dozens of other agencies are sending officers: Colorado State Patrol, Arvada, Wheat Ridge, Englewood, Littleton, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, Douglas County and many others.
“We want to make sure we are adequately staffed for the number of people who are going to be here,” said Sonny Jackson, a Denver police spokesman. He would not disclose what agencies will be participating or how many officers are expected.
“We respect everyone’s First Amendment rights,” Jackson said. “We hope that the citizens will come in and conduct themselves in a law-abiding and responsible manner.”
With the contingent of local officers and federal agents and the money being spent on security from a $50 million federal grant, protesters worry about possible outcomes.
“The police are gearing up for confrontation,” said Glenn Spagnuolo, organizer with the protest group Re-create 68. “Police are getting dressed up for a fight, and if there isn’t one, they will create one.”
He said he has not heard of any of the protest groups planning violence against the police or citizens.
Plan for disruption
Numerous anti-war groups have announced their intention to demonstrate in Denver during the Aug. 25-28 convention, but most have promised peaceful actions. The language of the anarchist groups is more confrontational. Unconventional Denver is part of a national group of anarchists planning to descend on Denver.
The group says it will engage in nonviolent direct action and has called for protesters “to engage in a broad variety of tactics to disrupt fundraising events and prevent Democratic delegates from putting on the spectacle they claim as democracy,” according to the group’s website.
Unconventional Denver wants to shut down, disrupt or delay the convention; storm events; and “ensure that the DNC is a thing of rowdy beauty.”
The website suggests activists “hold” intersections to strand delegates in buses and “swarm” streets to force police to retreat.
The group has posted a schedule of events for certain days:
Sunday, the group wants to reclaim public space in the city. Monday, there will be actions against parties or restaurant outings and a “black bloc” gathering against capitalism. Tuesday, the group wants to shut down access to the Pepsi Center. And Wednesday and Thursday, there will be “creative actions” to address specific issues such as global warming, racism and criminal injustice.
“The streets will be a wild and creative place,” said Simons, a 25-year-old graphic artist who grew up in Boulder and lives in San Francisco.
Simons is helping organize Denver’s group, which meets weekly at a Colfax Avenue coffee shop. He wouldn’t disclose the size of the group.
For six days starting Saturday, they will meet at an undisclosed location to discuss actions and learn how to tend to one another’s medical needs and how to legally monitor the police reactions.
Simons says there will be street theater, “guerrilla gardening” and ways for alternative forms of media to get out their message.
A group called the Colorado Street Medics will be on hand throughout the protests to provide immediate medical service, said Zoe Williams, who is coordinating the expected 120 volunteer street medics.
“We don’t want to see a dark, evil atmosphere descending on Denver,” Simons said. “We want a festive atmosphere that celebrates grassroots movements.”
History of violence
Yet, historically, law enforcement officials have blamed anarchists for violence in protests.
In 2003, Colorado Springs Police Chief Luis Velez said, officers used tear gas on war protesters after anarchists from Denver disrupted the peaceful rally with violent acts blocking an intersection and banging on cars.
Anarchists took center stage in Seattle during the 1999 World Trade Organization meeting, when protesters smashed shop windows and police shot tear gas and rubber bullets. The National Guard and state patrol were called in to quell the chaos.
“I was there,” said Simons, who blamed police force for the trouble. “We were standing up for democracy.”
Simons said the real message of what people want will not be heard in the Pepsi Center or in the Democratic Party’s platform; it will come from what is being said in the streets.
“Politicians and the people in power should be afraid
Barbara, we appreciate all your Republican Help, but we know all about Recreate68. If you would kindly take the time to search the archives and actually read what we are all about, you would see that this is not news to us. I only tell you this because your posts are very cut/paste formal, contain very little interaction with us as humans, and a lot of condescending “let me inform you” material.
If I am wrong about your intent, I apologize. But it would be kind of nice if you would be less robotic and actually talk to instead of down to us. Trust me, we have IQs.
PhxNickD — Remember when Obama went on about the Primaries being too long–like the Bataan Death March. This guy only cares about himself and doesn’t have a clue that thousands of American Soldiers died in the Bataan Death March while he ate the best food and flew all over the country making the same speech. Oh yeah, and the other guy in the race WAS tortured for 5 years when he was a POW. I bet we don’t hear McCain saying his torture reminds him of this election season.
I’m glad your son realized just who/what Obama is.
I just read CNN’s home page and there’s one scary story, “2nd largest US Bank failure in history”
… and Obambi’s going to be in charge of things around here?
I don’t know which scares me more, his incompetence or the fact I simply don’t trust him. The people around him will perform corruption at such a high degree, on such a complicated level, that god knows when any of us will be able to see them and their management for what they really are.
I mean many of us saw thru the bush/cheney crap early on and it took yrs for many others to come on board.. but I’m concerned with the intellectual white collar corruption that will take place in the obama circus ring.
Obama loves Bank hucksters and subprime people. His top ten contributors include at least four of them and the owner of the failed Superior Bank, which owes the FDIC nearly a half a billion dollars, is his NATIONAL FINANCE CHAIR.
Yup Joe. I envision a pardoned Tony Rezko in charge of HUD too. Reverend Go Screw Yourself America in charge of “faith based initiatives” the encompass a bigger house for himself.
There is an interesting article about BO’s sup-prime affiliations called “Subprime Obama” (just google it) Also, I believe another article has just come out revisitingthis issue (can’t recall where I saw it.
You know I was just thinking about that before as I read the article (and thinking about his past responses to anything that comes up).
Bush never admits mistakes cuz he’s never made any (in his own delusional mind). So he admits no mistakes cuz there were none.
With Obama, he’ll just make mistakes and always blame someone else. It’s guaranteed. With his behavior that we see now, there’s no question what route he’ll go when he errors.
I have a friend, previous Clinton Supporter (and before that, Edwards) who had previously said he’d decide who to vote for after the McCain and Obama debates. Now? He says that plan is out the window. There’s no way he’d vote for Obama if he were the only candidate standing.
we all knew from the start, any problems in BHO’s camp will be blamed on Hillary. I have not given one red cent to Obama or the DNC and will continue to help retire Hillary’s debt as I can. I just received a solicitation from McCain and will be sending some money that way also. It feels good to know BHO and the DNC are not reaching their money goals.
Oh of course… we also have to expect that if (hopefully when) Obama loses in the general election, he and his his supporters will blame it on Hillary staying “in too long” or her supporters being “too bitter”, “not donating enough” etc. etc. (basically fill in any excuse to blame Hillary).
To hell with them. Hillary was their scapegoat for everything that went wrong while Bill Clinton was in office. “Hillary failed on UHC.” “NAFTA was all her idea.” “If she could have kept her man happy, then the Monica Lewinsky scandal wouldn’t have happened.” It goes on and on. Well, Barack Obama isn’t owed one single thing from Hillary Clinton or her supporters. If he fails, it’s because his campaign failed to plan beyond June 4.
Does Obama still expect the DNC to foot the bill for Obama’s acceptance speech at the Denver Football Stadium? It would seem a cutback is in order bearing in mind that neither the DNC or Obama have enough money for these frills. I know the American people have had to cut back. So there are things you might not be able to have BO — GET OVER IT.
Behavior that is an obamanation, baracktracking on his promises, preaching “change” and “hope”, stumbling over barackisms as he reaches for the right words, to explain away his endless flip flops and baroken promises, has left the Chosen One, the new Messiah, feeling quite michellancoly.
He’s angry that people dare to ayer his past, knowing we are wright to expose the dirt in his closet. He’s worried that America will find out he’s not the wright person to protect us all from the axelrod of evil.
The early video by PUMA rep Will Bowers says it all about the Obama implosion.
The fact that Hillary can raise money after she has suspended her campaign shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is an illegitimate selection by the overlords of the once great Democrat party.
I gave two donations today…
One for the patriot Hillary
One for the leader who won the Iraq war for America.
Comment by We Will Remember in November!
| 2008-07-11 21:57:19
IndyMac. Feds seize IndyMac. Second largest bank failure in History. Why are the Bushes always “around” when banks fail “big time.”
What is Obama doing? Booking his Denver rock concert and scouting out his european tour in Germany. How can anyone honestly look at Obama and think he can remotely handle this terrible crumbing economY? For that matter the same can be said for McCain. Hillary can do it. Hillary is smart and rock steady. Obama is frail and weak minded.
I believe in the American people. Somehow when January 2009 rolls around Hillary will be president.
Amen.
When I first heard that BHO will not take public funding, my first thought was - it is a risky business. How can one predict the turn out of the donations? This might bring him down.
I too believe that he will implode one way or the other.
If not, there is McCain. He won’t be as good as Hillary, but he will try his best to help the economy.
God, I hope Hillary ends up being the nominee!
I’ve always felt although Bill Clinton was a great president and brilliant….Hillary was brilliant and focused. Much more focus than Bill. She would be even better.
I’m trying so hard to have faith in you guys too (I’m from the UK). I think it’s very doubtful (unfortunately) that Hillary will be nominated at the convention, especially with Obama’s new plans for it.
IF I was American, I would no way vote for Obama. Not for one second would I contemplate it. I did give him a chance back at the beginning of the year for a few days until realised there was just nothing there. Then the Rev. Wright stuff popped up and just confirmed the NO for me.
That leaves McCain… who I probably would vote for just because there is no way I’d want Obama.
However, I don’t believe either of them is the right person for the job. It would be like the lesser of two evils.
Hillary, however, would take your country, and the world to a new level. She has every single quality you could want in a president, including amazing vision and stunning intelligence.
I’m keep my fingers so tightly crossed that somehow things change and she gets in.
With a great attitude like that and a keen sense of the best candidate Davey we will make you an honorary US citizen (purely honorary though no need to denounce it if you run for public office). We need more smart voters like you!
Awww well that brought a smile to my face! If only it were that easy to become a US citizen!
I’ve been looking into getting a visa to live and work over there (I ultimately do actually want to become a US citizen). But it’s much more difficult than expected - almost impossible unless you fit certain specific criteria.
However, if Obama becomes president, I’ve told my friends that I’d seriously reconsider my move there if I ever did get the opportunity. I don’t think I’d want to live in a place that’s run by Obama.
Davey - Thank you for commenting from “across the pond.” I get discouraged when I read the European newspapers online as well as the commenters posts over there. It seems (based upon their comments anyway) that BO is loved more across the pond than here in the U.S. At least we have the Republicans and Hillary supporters who know what a con-artist he is. Some of the worst comments I read about Hillary were posts from Europeans so I relished reading that you were on to BO’s game. Please spread the word over there -NoBama.
Well one of the big problems we’ve had is with media coverage, just like you guys. It hasn’t been quite as one sided as over there, but even the BBC couldn’t help themselves sometimes. You could tell they just loved the “First Black President” ideal and every report had that little twinge about it.
Of course it doesn’t help when most of the correspondents are people who have lived and worked in Washington DC for many years, so I imagine they’re bound to get caught up in it to some extent.
The most balanced news coverage has been from Channel 4 News. They’re usually very good, and were the best this time around.
I have to say I’m very disappointed in the BBC - I thought they were the one organisation I could trust. I actually emailed them with a complaint a couple of months ago.
I guess in terms of business it makes sense - more exciting stories get more viewers and that’s what it’s all about. Selling the “First Black President” just takes the edge over “First Woman President” I suppose??
But seeing as the BBC is funded with our money directly from us, I wasn’t too happy!
so, Davey, please spread the anti-Obama word in your part of the world. I can’t imagine why anyone in the UK, France or Germany thinks this guy is anything other than the lying, slick huckster that he is.
Well in part it’s the media coverage - see a post I just made above.
But if it helps (this did make me happier), last weekend I met up with a big bunch of my old friends and 3 of us were chatting about the Presidential campaign. I thought they might love Obama (they’re both around my age - 23), but to my surprise they could see right through him.
One of them had been living in NYC whilst doing a PhD for the last 8 months so I guess she’s experienced the primaries first hand.
We didn’t have chance to chat about it for too long, but the one thing we all 100% agreed on… you can not sit in a church for 20 years while hate was spouted and then claim you heard nothing.
Obama supporters would probably tell me to stop living in the past, but it’s true. That was the first revelation that made me thoroughly dislike Obama, and since then it’s been just another and another.
I’ve also spoken in depth to my family over here about it. My sister, mother and grandma all cannot believe what is going on over there. They all love Hillary - I wish we could’ve voted lol. My father is a bit more 50/50. He’s very intelligent and follows UK politics more than anyone else I know, but with everything I’ve been telling him (things that he hasn’t known through the MSM) he’s starting to see Obama in a different light I think.
So don’t worry… we’re not all crazy for a Obama. My wish list (and many others) for this year looks like:
1. Hillary becomes President (but if that doesn’t happen…)
2. Obama doesn’t.
Obama is a joke. I don’t think I’ll ever get over how many people (who were meant to be intelligent) were/are fooled by him.
I have friends who I fully respected until quite recently, when I realised they seem to love Obama but have no idea who he is or what he stands for.
Still, I doubt any of this would change them. They’re blinded. It makes me sad that so many good people have chosen such an awful candidate, and will refuse to admit they were wrong, or just plain cannot see it.
“Obama is a joke. I don’t think I’ll ever get over how many people (who were meant to be intelligent) were/are fooled by him.”
He appeals to the conceits of the “intelligentsia”, really just snobby urbanites, the kind of people who snickered at Obama’s “cling” comments and say “It’s so true.” Try asking them about why Obama seems to cling to religion to, I’ve gotten blank stares.
Comment by say goodbye barry
| 2008-07-11 22:13:45
A couple weekends ago a friend of mine invited me to a Barack Obama party she was having. I told her I can’t go because I’m the enemy. She said I should go anyway to learn about him. I begged off politely.
She’s a good-hearted woman, I think the reason she supports him is because she thinks he will end the Iraq war. I haven’t spoken to her indepth about him at all, there’s certain people you can talk politics with and then some you can’t.
After the PA primary I asked another friend of mine who she voted for, fully expecting her to say Hillary. No, her husband convinced her to vote for Barry. I said to friend, “you know HIllary has a better chance of beating McCain”, and my friend did admit she had serious reservations and thought she might regret her Obama vote. Haven’t spoken to her recently, but I know she is experiencing Obama remorse.
See, that’s the problem with us Hillary supporters, we’re too nice! If you had been an Obambam supporter in the same situation you would have probably harrassed and bullied your friend to support HIM! Just kidinng, not really!
You’re so right… I was called a “racist a**” by one of my best friends (who supports Obama) when I told him I didn’t think Obama was qualified. I never once mentioned race (seeing as it’s not an issue to me), but that doesn’t seem to stop them does it?!
We haven’t spoken since, and I’m not sure if I ever want to.
Did you see the big racist accusation row over a guy mentioning a Black Hole. A scientific term depicting the complete absense of light is now racist. They are demanding an apology and the guy is like, WTF are you people talking about!?
In the 1980″s a transportation co said you could no longer use the term “black friday” for the day after Thanksgiving. Some fool thought it was racist.
The day after Thanksgiving is the biggest shopping day of the year and the stores go from red ink to black ink. It was a bookkeeping term.
If you are looking for a problem there is always a way to find it.
and you are right, there are some you can talk to, and others, you know are missng a few eggs in that basket of a brain when it comes to certain topics..
I have a friend I don’t dare talk to until after November. He would get into one disaster after another - Herbalife, failed Direct Mail Marketing schemes. I guess I should have expected he’s support Obama.
I used to joke that the RNC voting registries were nothing but a sucker list - something that they peddled to boiler rooms and direct marketing scammers between election cycles.
Thanks to Team Obama, that’s all changed.
Now it’s the DNC that owns the rights to America’s best sucker list.
I have friends who I fully respected until quite recently, when I realised they seem to love Obama but have no idea who he is or what he stands for.
My husband’s 11 yr old granddaughter told me in February she liked Obama best. I asked her why and she said “Because I like to say his name”. I told her “Well, that’s why you are not allowed to vote.”
Interesting! I have two teenage nieces (both in Catholic High Schools in Sacramento & Berkeley, CA), one supported Obama at the beginning of the primaries, the other HRC.
By May–and without influence by me or her mother–the Obama supporter had switched to HRC. When asked why, she said that Obama spoke in vague terms and generalities and that she didn’t know how specifically he was going to change things. After watching the debates and the primary stump speeches, she now viewed HRC as the most capable of the two, a candidate with a plan and specifics to back it up. This niece reported that most of the student body in this all-girl high school was for HRC.
Unfortunately, the other niece and her male friends who supported HRC were called racists by the Obama crowd! To her dismay, HRC campaign signs posted on walls and student lockers were destroyed by Obama supporters. All in all, the atmosphere was very intimidating for HRC supporters at this Berkeley co-ed high school. She was very sensitive to the misogyny against HRC, both by the Obama campaign and by the media. This really depressed her. But she, too, sensed a buddying women’s movement for her generation as a result of the way these primaries played out.
Oh yeah, that hundred grand he’s managed to dig up for her is breaking Obama. That made the difference in his coffers.
I think Hillary has probably outraised Obama in June and he is embarassed about being shown up by someone who’s not even campaigning. I’ll bet she is kicking his ass in July, too.
The problem with Obama is he assumes that we would be giving to him if she would just not ask for help with her debt. The DNC made it imperitive for us to help Hillary right now because they have moved the deadline for her to cover her debts three times in an effort to keep her off the ballot. So, barack could blame the DNC if he can’t take his own responsibility for being a loser.
Oh and Barack, I would never give you one nickel. EVER. What I gave Hillary this week came out of my car fixing fund, not my Obama fund. There isn’t one of those.
The DNC made it imperitive for us to help Hillary right now because they have moved the deadline for her to cover her debts three times in an effort to keep her off the ballot.
Has there been anything officially released by the DNC or Obama regarding your comment?
I Am reading “sources say” material but not first hand accounts being reported.
To the extent the DNC has rules they follow, what legal obligation does Hillary have to pay off her debt in any time frame?
This “moved the deadline three times” has been confirmed?
Thanks.
Obama’s June fundraising is probably less than 10 million. If it were 30 million, they would be tripping over themselves to report they raised more than McCain and all from the internet.
But, Obama is witholding the June fundraising numbers so they can pump them up with funds received in July.
They will withold July numbers to pump them up with August funds.
This will go on until the Convention, where they hope to generate cash from the hoopla.
His scheme is catching up to him, and the donations are drying out. All that dough he raised in the primary was from those who wanted to defeat Hillary.
There’s nothing to trumpet.
Anything less than the 100 million he promised, is embarrassing.
Remember, he promised to raise enough for the DNC and down-ticket Dems to justify their support.
Comment by Latte liberal for McCain
| 2008-07-12 21:00:54
I agree. Plus all anti-Hillary contributors dried up, too. All the committed Democratic contributors who would normally support the general election fund are Hillary supporters.
No Johnny, I think BaWhack’s campaign DID raise
$30 million in June.
Problem is,
they spent $45 million.
THAT’S why they’re not “tripping over themselves”
to announce it.
Heh heh.
Plus, their failed attempt at “raffling” a special place in the convention for a $5. plus doantion got flushed under that bus. Have to subtract those projections.
No money from me for the DNC. No money from me for their selected candidate.
They would not give me the time of day eight months ago when I started calling the DNC to ask if they were ever going to vet Obama. I got my posts deleted on the DNC website when I asked about Obama and Ayers and the PLO.
Those who think this third generation yellow dog and my 23 voting members in many state will vote for Obama and fall in line in November are……. crazy.
Cnn has a special on tonite called The Clintons.Never Quit. What a fantastic 360. They are talking about her 18 million people and is she really out? Fantastic if anyone can watch the reruns
I think it is so interesting that they had this show on tonight. I know for sure that the Clintons never quit, and I’m damn glad of it. Could it be that the worm is finally starting to turn? Poor Nobamalamadingdong- can’t raise any money & that nasty Hillary’s getting it all. Hell- she’s raising money & isn’t supposedly in the race- but she sure as hell isn’t really out of it. He can’t say that she didn’t keep up her end of the bargain, can he? I’m sure that fact hasn’t gone unnoticed by millions of Americans, either. Let’s just hope it is getting noticed by the SDs. She just makes Nobama look like such a no-class act it isn’t funny. I mean it would be funny if it wasn’t so damned critical… She looks & sounds presidential & he looks & sounds like an arrogant, petulant wannabe without a clue. How embarrassing he is to our country. Oh, crap, just wait ’til Waffles goes to Europe- and pisses off everyone there… Excuse me- just WHY is he going to Europe to campaign for US Pres.??? Maybe he thinks it’ll be his best chance to go as he ISN’T GOING TO BE POTUS.
He should have gone to Europe while he was serving his first year in the US Senate on the Senate Foreign Affairs European Subcommittee. Look how much Biden did with that position.
He’s also planning to sponsor a NASCAR in the Poconos.
I am giving $$$ to ACLU to overturn BHO’s vote on FISA, not to his campaign to sponsor a NASCAR or football stadium star-turn.
Comment by say goodbye barry
| 2008-07-11 22:19:00
I pity that poor driver. Can’t imagine an Obama car will receive a warm welcome at NASCAR. Which one of Obie’s bonehead advisors recommended this fiasco?
OMG wouldn’t it be just hysterical if the car crashes and burns? (No harm to the driver intended.) I’m not surprised - said before watch for his face to turn up on Coke cans and packaged diapers.
Only see 1 comment about what seems closest to the truth: Everything in bozo’s camp has always been the opposite of what is true. He claimed huge internet small donors made him - but I looked at his Feb records and far too many were “unemployed students” giving the max - several thou $$$ at once-
That doesn’t sound like small donors- that sounds like corporate cover money run through the laundry chain in family members names - Why else did he have the only campaign to accept $$ from 16 yr olds - when all others have minimum contributer age of 18? Obviously to hide PAC money.
Since his funds are lessening, then, it seems that the PAC $ are what’s really drying up? Why?
Because it was probably a lot of Republican $ to get Hillary out of the race.
well the good thing there would be I would quit drinking Coke and I just picked up 10 cases for the rest of summer. It’s cheaper than milk and I do not do Pepsi I agreed with Bill Gates he should not have to pack a half Coke and Half Pepsi as I would really be ticked if I had to buy it that way.
Comment by Dave_Not_for_Obama
| 2008-07-11 23:01:26
Comment by Gloria | 2008-07-11 22:03:20
He’s also planning to sponsor a NASCAR in the Poconos.
I am giving $$$ to ACLU to overturn BHO’s vote on FISA, not to his campaign to sponsor a NASCAR or football stadium star-turn.
The other drivers would put that car into a wall on the first turn = no air time, lol.
The driver of the car, Ken Schrader is an honest man and wishing him to crash is not cool, that is reserved for Kyle Bush.
Anyway, it did not take long to back out of the deal.
Late Friday, the Obama campaign said there would be no sponsorship.
“The Obama campaign will not be sponsoring a car in the Sprint Cup series, though we will continue to look for ways to reach out to voters and convey Senator Obama’s message of change.” said Bill Burton, an Obama campaign spokesman
Sports Illustrated first reported the proposal on its Web site, saying Obama’s campaign is in talks with BAM, a part-time operation that hasn’t raced in recent weeks, to sponsor its No. 49 car in the Aug. 3 race at Pocono.
“The Obama campaign will not be sponsoring a car in the Sprint Cup series, though we will continue to look for ways to reach out to voters and convey Senator Obama’s message of change.” Bill Burton, Obama Campaign Spokesman
He should put all of his sponsors on the car. Crown, GE, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, Exelon, JP Morgan Chase & Co., Ubs Ag, Time Warner, Microsoft, Google and Exxon Mobil. They’re gonna have to put some decals on the windows…
and maybe a little clown car for the lobbyists Sidley Austin LLP, Skadden Arps et al, Wilmerhale LLP, and Kirkland and Ellis. They contributed $960,415 dollars to his campaign as of May.
Absolutely Zee, Obama has created his own problems. I saw tonight he was down (and McCain up) in a Newsweek poll released today. http://www.newsweek.com/id/145556
Last month he led 51 to 36 vs McCain. Todays poll:
His lead is 44 vs 41 for McCain.
Last I read, BOs camp is saying he raised 30 mil in June v 22 mil for McCain, but we will see when the actual numbers come out. As Larry points out, Hillary has nothing to do with his numbers…since his maxed out contributers can’t help him now anyways (at least in theory). I’d venture to guess that PUMAS have raised a lot more to retire his debt than his people have.
It repeats in an hour. I haven’t watched CNN in about 4 months. Started watching FOX again after I bouycotted it for the last 8 years. I think I needed the change. CNN and MSNBO were rotting my brain.
I gave the maximum for Hillary and some more which went to her senate campaign and my husband did too but not to the same extent. I am in a position to give more for GE but would not give a red cent to Obama or the DNC. Hell, I am not even giving him/them my vote.
Also, watch out PUMA. The distortions will start if not occurring (like Larry says)already about his shortfall being due to Hillary’s debt. You be ready to dispel it — we the little people have been raising money for her debt and Obama and his minions have done nothing so far. We should be forceful in negating their press and Clinton’s own people come out and release the info about what she did for Obama through her donors and what he did NOT do for her.
pm317 — Obama can only go to the victimization well just so often before people tune him out, which is what appears to be happening now. Last month Obama was moaning that Republicans would not vote for him because of his color. Now he can’t raise money because Hillary is Greedy. Give us a break. Nobody begged Obama to run. He could have stayed the the Senate for a complete term but after just 143 Days he decided that God wanted him to save this country. God probably made a boneheaded mistake when he was asked to decide whether this was the right time for Obama to run for President - he pressed the wrong button.
I am in a position to give more for GE but would not give a red cent to Obama or the DNC.
I gave to Hillary and I even bought three of the debt retirement TShirts. Mostly, my money this year is going local, which is where I’ve got the most control or hope of control. I donated twice to Al Franken’s Minnesota campaign against Norm Coleman. I’ve donated to this site and several others, just to keep the lights on and because I, like Larry Johnson, need a place to vent. I’ve even donated to the Black Agenda Report - because Glen Ford, who writes that site, is madder than anyone about the falseness that is Obama.
I’m in the mood for muckraking, and the more, the better.
mr. natural, i love your writing style. seriously. it stands out, even here among some xlnt writers.
like i was once asked, “are you … y’ know, like …somebody (famous/important/etc)?”
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mr. natural was also one of my favorite “cartoon” characters if you will, during my berkeley ’60’s. do y’all remember this R. Crumb character?
This is going to be the most expensive campaign season in history. The airwaves will be flooded with meaningless sales pitches. The amounts spent will dwarf anything we’ve seen before.
So much for the new politics. Whoever buys the most airtime wins. I get sick thinking about it.
Obama will tell us he is Bill Clinton if that will get him money. I have seen the Obama act — its all about him and and his moods — he could care less about the rest of us.
Just as i suspected all along, the Republicans have been stuffing Obama’s coffers to stop Hillary, but now that he pretty much has the nomination sealed up, they can start giving their money to McCain. It’s a very smart strategy by the GOP.
Of course I didn’t mean that, LOL. I don’t think Barry got a thin dime from Republicans myself. They need the money in their coffers, this election was to be a Democratic win hands down. They know they need every dollar for their own candidates.
BOs funds are down because he’s not the “new thing” anymore, and because of his own foot-in-mouth disease.
RJ — you just don’t understand how tired Obama is. He gave himself to us and now we are not sufficiently grateful and the poor man needs his rest. tsk tsk. All this attention is turning his hair gray or is he dying it to appear a bit more experienced? No matter– the poor man isn’t even left alone to eat his waffles Gosh guys, even Messiah’s suffer from fatigue.
Obama will try to take credit for the PUMA JUST SAY NO DEAL group of web sites pay down of Hillary’s debt while insinuating that helping her with debt has hurt him with his collections.
Come on Barrack Obama fans…you can pony up $5, he doesn’t care how poor you are, you can give him $5.
There is absolutely no doubt that when O! loses the GE, it’s going to be all Hillary’s fault. He, his rabid fans and corporate press will all make sure it goes down in history that way. As time goes on he disgusts me more than I can fathom.
Haven’t been keeping up here, so maybe this has been posted, but there is no reason to think O! will be any better than McC. McC won’t have to bomb Iran because Jr will see to that before he leaves office. IF he leaves…
during A Coopers show tonight I caught only part of it but he was dissing Bill C and saying Hillary has higher approval ratings than Bill and was going on and on about Bill’s legacy and shit! I had to turn the lying BS OFF!
The MEDIA is sooooooooooo damn jealous that they can’t totally RUIN the Clinton’s in the public EYE.
SOOOOO JEALOUS & SPITEFUL
I’m waiting for Larry King’s ufo rerun (unless it’s not rerunning)
I might be entertained with some BETTER Science Fiction than what I’ve been getting on ALL the news outlets lately!
OMG even GReenville/Spartanburg tv channel tonight was advertising the new ipod/phone thing from Apple and while showing it they showed how it works with addresses etc and right in the front on the list was the DNC with HOWARD Dean’s PICTURE on it!!!
I was like, HUH???? I also saw 2 more Obama bumper stickers today. They’re growing. I don’t like it. OHH and a RON PAUL sticker! He’s very popular around here, I guess? LOL
Bill Clinton skipped the Unity, NH event. He went to Nelson Mandela’s birthday event in London’s Hyde Park instead. The next day, the Telegraph reported he said Obama could “kiss my ass.” Then he and Obama had a 20 minute phone conversation. The way Obama’s sycophantic lapdogs in the press are trashing Bill, it sounds like he told Obama to kiss his ass on the phone, too. Good for President Bill Clinton.
“Obama took the stage and forgot, just one of those Freudian slips, to ask for money for Hillary–until he left the stage and the press reminded he had not done what he had come to do.”
I had read somewhere else that it was one of Obama’s people who stopped him and reminded him that he hadn’t done what he was there for - To seek funds from supporters to pay off Hill’s debt.
If it was in fact a media person and NOT an Obama person who reminded him, this makes a huge difference. For me anyway. You know he was surrounded by his own campaign people there and if not one of them reminded him to do the deed, and it was in fact a reporter who had to tell him, well, imo that speaks volumes about this guy, and the people surrounding him..
So tell me, if Senator Obama sprouts a boil on his arrogant behind, will that be Hillary’s fault, too?
This man is a pathetic excuse for a candidate. Nothing but whining and placing blame everywhere else but squarely on his own shoulders, and on Axelrod’s shoulders, where it clearly belongs.
Could his arrogance, lack of empathy or care about anyone besides himself, the fact that he has reneged on all his campaign promises, rubbed Hillary’s nose in the dirt at every opportunity — during and after the primary, and calling her husband a racist have anything to do with his money woes?
Perhaps the meme is true after all that there was a lot of foreign money and Republican money propping up his candidacy to begin with — in order to get rid of the stronger and better, more qualified candidate — Senator Clinton.
Call your Congressperson and say “We’ve Changed Our Minds!”
This clown didn’t care one bit that he forgot why he was there. It is all about him! Always has been, always will be! And yes, it was a member of the media that reminded him why HE WAS THERE!
Obama can blame everyone under the sun but if he can’t raise the money he’s done.
I sense a slight shift in the media’s attitude. I think that Obama’s rapid abandonment of so many core enlightened positions confused them. In one week he essentially has robbed them of their story line that he is a new kind of politician.
It is slowly sinking into their thick skulls that they need to have a new story line.
My guess is that Senator Obama is not going to be happy with what they come up with.
Hillary supporters shouldn’t give him a penny.
This guy totally vilified her.
Today I was talking to a disenchanted Obama supporter who said he wouldn’t vote for Clinton because her health plan included a mandate.
I tried to explain that this was the only way to execute an effective plan. But he had been brainwashed, and typical of Obama supporters, had no inclination toward opening his mind.
They don’t like Obama, but have been brainwashed that Hillary is the Queen of Evil.
Yeah. The guy in charge of BO’s health care plan is the same guy (his name escapes me now) who headed the campaign and pushed the Harry and Louise ads against HRC’s health care initiative in the 1990s. This explains why such an ad was revived in the primary campaign. Shame on you, Obama!
Comment by BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow
| 2008-07-11 22:51:44
Uh, no offense, but I find it strikingly amusing that an entire thread is devoted to Obama’s supposed fundraising problems when Hillary had to LOAN HERSELF MILLIONS.
(shrugging shoulders…just another one of them double standardzezess)
BTW, I also find it amusing that you people sincerely believe all Obama supporters are either impoverished blacks or rich, white liberals. I’m a social service provider making less than $40,000 a year and am the first from my family to graduate from college AND grad school. My mother works in a factory and my father drives a truck. The sign in their yard reads, “Bitter Hillbillies for Obama.”
Only a Hilllary-hater could be a social service provider and be an Obamabot.
If it weren’t for these diehard Clinton-haters, Obama would be a nobody.
These are the people who will never get the bj in the Oval Office out of their cotton-picking, puritanical, Hillbilly minds.
Too bad they don’t realize that Obama looks his nose down on bitter Hillbillys. And he’s serious about that.
Obama has nothing but disdian for working class people and that would include black working class people.
Open your eyes and realize that without an over zealous gossip mongering press, Clinton’s sex life would have been like all the presidents before him: Bill and Hillary’s personal business.
I wish this same press corp cared enough to investigate Obama’s Birth Certificate.
Silly of me…. It’s only the Clintons people love to hate on.
Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama
| 2008-07-11 23:04:50
good for you and for them, why do you come here? we are enjoying ourselves you hgo donate to Uhhbama and do your own happy dance idf you like, more power to ya!!
Did they buy that sign or make it themselves. You’re the first troll in this thread. What’s the matter with BO’s fundraising. Can’t get enought trolls funded. By the way, your STORY S U C K E D.
Hillary isn’t in the GE, remember? If she were, she’d have 40 million waiting. She had more money for the GE than Obama did.
I see nothing wrong at all about her lending her campaign 11 million. She and Bill have accumulated wealth, so why not spend some on her own behalf?
The point is that Obama’s money making was one of the factors that persuaded the SDs to go with him. Well, the bar is high now. His campaign bragged about how much they would raise. They are far short of the mark.
He’s been reported as saying he was NOT interested in wooing Hillary’s people, and reports from her fundraisers made it clear he meant it. They were “underwhelmed,” to put it mildly. He had nothing to offer them whatsoever and most came away feeling set aside. Now, his fundraising numbers are down from expectations, and he needs them. As one fundraiser put it, “We’re back, and this time it’s personal.”
The meme from his campaign, which is all over the Obama blogs, is a tone of punishment and disunity. The bashing of Hillary continues. The tradition of working together to help her retire her debt is in the trashcan. And those who do not SUCCUMB to Obama’s Democratic Party and start backing his crap like a cheerleader are told to “Get Over It.”
Once again, our warnings were not heeded.
The result is that the DNC is in dismal shape. Nobody from Hillary’s camp is sending money. See, the people who send money are the involved ones. We ARE the ardent supporters Obama has offended. So the problem is much deeper than Obama’s mere 30 million in June. Who will pay for the convention?
Obamabots don’t think past their adoration for him. They took over the party. In my opinion, they also took on the responsibility to fund the party.
This situation is similar to raising kids. You want decisionmaking power? You pay the bills.
They took over the party. In my opinion, they also took on the responsibility to fund the party.
An obvious point that I had never considered and haven’t seen made before. He wanted to all donations to be funneled through his campaign. Okay, fine. Now he’s got it.
Remember those Saturday night Drive-In movies where the nerds get one up on the jocks?
That’s the feeling I’m getting from reading this thread. The jock (BHO) is having his come-uppance.
Yeah, America really needs and wants to see one Arab praising a fellow Muslim. At least this new CNN guy doesn’t say he’s anti-American - even though he’s pumping sales on his new book about the “post-American economy.”
Long time rumors Time Warner, which owns CNN and AOL is strongly Arab owned. But investigators say the money trail is complicated and too hard to prove- except for one Saudi Prince who acknowledged his 5% ownership - and complains he looses money on his investment.
His failure to help her reduce her debt was just another Obama stupid move. Her supporters can’t reduce it if they maxed out, but they could give to him. Now, what’s the motive?
He should have taken the campaign finance money. Oh well, too bad, so sad.
The man is brilliant. Why didn`t someone think of this before. His grasp of International affairs astounds me.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said in interview excerpts released Friday that Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden should be executed, if he is ever captured alive.
The Illinois Senator told CNN that the accused mastermind of the September 11 attacks in 2001 should face the full weight of US and global justice.
“I am not a cheerleader for the death penalty,” Obama said.
“I think it has to be reserved for only the most heinous crimes, but I certainly think plotting and engineering the death of 3,000 Americans justifies such an approach.”
“I think this is a big hypothetical, though — let’s catch him first,” he said.
That is great tell the Muslim world you going to kill him just give them more tape to get more members he should not of said that. (we know what we do if we caught him) He is such a Jackass
He already did.
6/18/08:
“Obama said that he would deal with him, “in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he’s engaged in and not to make him into a martyr.” Presumably that would rule out the death penalty.”
He is a piece of work isn’t he? He can blame her all her wants. The truth is .. we don’t want him. He is selected.. he is a product of the DNC. Hillary has always been the real deal. She has done everything asked of her.. and he is still a loser.
reply to HARP I believe this is the same obama who just insisted that captured terrorists must be removed from military courts and given all the legal privileges of American citizens.
It’s some relief to know that bozo doesn’t remember what he says from day to day- and doesn’t really care - since it’s all just hot air. NO brain could possibly process the ongoing onslaught of contradictions. Like an overwelmed computer it would just burn out any normal mind.
Not his: because all his “words” to others always carry this silent internal self-message: “Nothing I say means anything to me. I will neither recall I said this nor make any attempt to implement it in action”
We should have all expected this outcome when the DNC moved the convention date to coincide with the anniversary of the MLK Dream speech, in august, instead of July when they usually have it. The only question is...did they pick the date after they had picked the black candidate, or did they pick the date, and then go out to find a black candidate to stick on the podium? You tell me, but the conincidence is just a little too much, and it certainly belies the efforts they have gone to to insure hie success so far.
I say, "Hooray for Andrea Merkel!"
They picked Obama at the 2004 Convention. Let him have the speech there. Its been in the works for a while. Ironically, had they kept the July date he might have been the nominee. Now…as always its about the dough, who has it, who can bring it in.
If there’s any truth to the Whitey Tape rumors, then Michelle Obama made her angry remarks about Rwanda and Bill Clinton a week before that convention. The Democratic party bosses knew what they were getting into when they brought the Obamas on board. This was like a mean high school prank like the movie Carrie. I want to see flames and blood.
So … an elderly and very devout priest dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there he sees a long line of souls moving slowly toward the Pearly Gates. He walks to the front of the line and says to St. Peter “What is this line?” St. Peter tells him it’s the line to get into heaven, and that he must go to the end and wait his turn with the other souls. “But surely, St. Peter, I’ve devoted my life to God and deserve to get through the gates before many of these ordinary humans.” But St. Peter simply says “No exceptions” and turns away.
So the priest walks for hours to get to the end of the line, then endures several days of creeping along in the slowly moving line. Finally, he’s back within sight of the Pearly Gates and wiping the sweat off his brow, when suddenly a limosine appears, headed in the direction of the Pearly Gates. As it passes him, he looks inside and sees … Barack Obama! The priest watches closely as the limosine drives all the way up to the gates, stops briefly by St. Peter, then enters the Gates.
The priest is incensed; he asks the person behind him to save his place and he hikes the 1/4 mile or so to the front of the line and strides right up to St. Peter and says: “St. Peter, this cannot be right. You have sent me, a man of the cloth, to wait in line for several days, but you let Barack Obama go right through the gates? How can this be fair?”
St. Peter turns to him and says: “No no, my good man, that wasn’t Barack Obama. That was God. He just THINKS he’s Barack Obama.”
oh chit something just hit me (I hope I’m wrong) but if it truly IS (for bho) all about the MONEY and who can bring it……………
sigh
David Gergen could be right. Hillary could be his Cash Goddess.
What the HELL r we gonna do??? And I’m mostly asking uber HILL fans like me that realize even 4 yrs from now is OLD for most of US……. she might want to get in there NOW.
just thinking
if it’s about money and now Will Bower and us PUMAS have been seen to be CASH happy (or so he would think)
Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama
| 2008-07-12 00:26:45
even if that happens, no worries by me, he will step down as nominee after the GOP lets him have it , if he is this careless with what we know, imagine what we dont..I think it is good Hill is in a strong position either way, we have showed her we have her back and the DNC can bite me!!!!!
Not sure when Gergen said this but Hillary’s PUMA supporter are canny enough to give only to her debt, and not the Obama or the DNC. Gergen is on crack if he can’t see that point.
The only bad thing is if the PUMA money is rich enough to put her in the black with a surplus. The DNC is licking its lips just as it did when they thought Obama was the cash cow. Only Hillary’s surplus is a big dilemma, for her as well as the DNC. Its leverage of course. She should demand a vote and she will win it.
I think the DNC will let the dirt on OBAMA come shining through before the convention to make it convenient under the bus toss. Killing two birds with one stone - or throw. The democrats will get the money and Hillary will get the presidency.
So Stedman Graham’s sex life has entered interesting times? It’s probably news to him.
Brazile may or may not have a main squeeze, at least nothing listed on NNDB. Perhaps she became a lesbian so she could love herself to the exclusion of all others.
I have donated the maximum allowed for the primary and, overcoming my shyness in this matters, have asked some friends and relatives to contribute to the Hillary campaign. I never planned, nor intend to donate to the Obama campaign, so blaming anything on Hillary is useless on his part.
I plan to donate for the general if Hillary is the nominee. I will not vote for a ticket with Hillary as VP. She is and will be blamed for Obama’s mistakes, which are many already.
I pray she does not take him as her VP either, he will undermine her presidency. She will spend her time putting political fires down caused by his incompetence.
Thank you Senator Clinton for voting against FISA.
We’re very proud of your courage and integrity.
>>> She will spend her time putting political fires down caused by his incompetence.
Not to mention catching flack for the HIDEOUS colors that Winnie Mandela Sasquatch Michelle would use to redecorate the VP Residence at the Naval Observatory…
The construct of the Democratic Party has taken a dramatic turn in history………..unlike anything we have ever seen before………………
However,
We have yet to determine if it is for the worse or for the better………………………………
If the PUMA’s and others can bring Hillary back in the black and she really still wants to be President…
Then, they must bring her campaign off of suspension status, get her delegates in line and adopt a creed of
Party Unity My Ass……….Translated
Country before Party…………..
Hillary before the corrupt party leaders and Obama…
But, this has to be done very quickly!~
HILLARY HAS TO WANT THIS……
SHE HAS TO BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THIS CORRUPTION AND HAVE A FLOOR FIGHT AND PUMA MUST BE READY TO TAKE ON THE SUPERDELEGATES AND REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DECIDING THIS ELECTION.
NANCY PELOSI HAS TO GO!
DEAN HAS TO GO!
REID HAS TO GO!
OBAMA HAS TO BE CHALLENGED ON THE CONVENTION FLOOR
THE SUPERDELEGATES HAVE TO BE GRABBED AND TOLD THAT THEIR ELECTABILITY IS HELD IN THE BALANCE AND PUMA HOLDS THEIR POLITICAL FATE IN THEIR HANDS!
JUST SAY NO DEAL HOLDS THE SUPER DELEGATES ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY MUST SAY NO TO PELOSI, DEAN, REID AND OBAMA NOW!
CAN ANYONE HEAR ME?
BUT…….NONE OF THIS IS ANY GOOD IF HILLARY WANTS TO BE VEEP.
ALL HE HAS TO DO IS ASK HER TO BE HIS VEEP AND IT IS ALL OVER…………………….
SOMEONE FROM THIS COALITION NEEDS TO SEE WHERE SHE IS.
What is really amazing is that millions of people have read her intentions without her having to put it in writing or give a speech. We withheld votes and money and gave only to her. We threaten to vote for McCain. We are an army intune with the CIC.
Just think what will happen when the whole nation can connect psychically like that. And the nation wants Hillary. Even Republicans would vote for her.
Today I was wondering if she was thinking about it since the donations we gave for her debt. She knows we are serious. She knows we are still behind her.
This is bigger than a general election. This is about taking back our voices. Taking back our Party and fighting corruption.
we do admire her (that’s never going away) she just better put on her BEST CONVINCING SUIT before she tries to make us believe she would be BETTER as VP and NOT as CIC (EVER)
the jbevans email came back undeliverable (here’s my email I just sent) first time to ALL of them at once!
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Subject: Smelled the coffee yet?
Please, reconsider HILLARY!!!!!
Now that you’ve had AMPLE time to VET this fraud like the REST of us ONLINE have…………. you MUST see. You are throwing away the election on BHO. Weak, weak, weak, maybe win 10 states?
And I’m being generous.
Ok you’ve already forced my 84yr old MOM and I to switch to “unaffiliated”
you have a chance to redeem yourselves in the public eye
VOTE FOR HILLARY IN DENVER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE
Sincerely,
Dawn *&^&^% (52)
*&%$^, NC
Disable Mother and Veteran
“some college”
NOT BITTER
NO GUNS
BUT DEADLY SERIOUS
For PUMA and JUST SAY NO DEAL and all the other groups to have credibility, we simply have to remain organized even after the convention.
I am confident. I like the thinking of Women Count Too. They have set up a women’s agenda that isn’t focused on candidates. Finally, someone is thinking about the solutions and issues! I think PUMA could play a role other than supporting Hillary later, too. We’ll see how it evolves.
Definitely, the disaffected Democrats will be taken seriously when they hand McCain a win in the Fall. Then, the pundits will scramble to write their obits for the Democratic Party.
And out of the ashes we can save the best and trash the rest.
PUMA should play the role of creating a new political party that will overshadow the far left idiots…one that represents the values of moderate working amer
Just what are the actual numbers of Obama’s fundraising in June?
Obama raised more than $30 million in June: campaign
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080711/pl_nm/usa_politics_money_dc_5
Probably decreased at the end since the beginning of his worst flip flops began in mid-June.
The story says final nos. won’t be released until the deadline, July 20.
jack — Obama set a goal of 100 Mill — so he is 70% short.
LMAO!! BO is a loser!
He may hafta throw himself under the bus!
Oh gawd, I’d give him a donation just to see that.
i would donate for that cause –amen
ME TOO! LMBO!
He isn’t going to be welcome under there, F**ker that he is.
Witty comment…”not going to welcome under there”.
The idea of blaming Hillary is pretty self defeating. If he thinks the way to get Clinton supporters to open their wallets (and purses) to him is to continue to bash her, he has another thing coming.
Obamboozle’s blame shifting sorry ass is getting real old.
He has to blame someone. Yes, accountability is not in his vocabulary.
Well, he isn’t going to embrace the idea that people don’t like him–or his flip-flops–or that women in particular perceive him as being a jerk.
“Obama Isn’t Being Nice to Hillary.”
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/370443_meansonline12.html
Thanks, MP…great article!
Obama is being just as nice to Hillary Rotten Clinton as she has always been to him. What would Obama look like kissing her tired old butt while she continues to undercut him? Hillary will get her due props, but that’s it. Obama is in charge and nobody’s going to bowl him over. Hillary lost, get over it. Ding Dong, the witch is dead.
Hey, you already convinced me. BOBO has got to go.
knowbody–your pissy attitude is precisely why HRC supporters won’t support your messiah candidate–ever! BTY, Obama doesn’t officially have the delegates, thus the nomination. With all the uproar over about-face Obama on the matters of FISA, faith-based organizations, guns, the war, abortion, election financing, etc. many are defecting from your camp. And for those who still haven’t defected, they are withholding $ from your candidate. I guess Obama opting out of gov financing was a bit precipitous!
Larry, please give me a quote from Obama where he is ‘blaming’ Hillary for being short of his fundraising goals (if he even is…you prove nothing of the sort)! Asking Obama donors to pay Hillary’s debt (to Mark Penn no less) is a little bit over the top…the big donors can do that, but you can’t expect the majority of us to cry over the fact that she did not manage her money - and DNC can help her out.
stop your ridiculous allegations Larry - unless you can prove them, okay? Your status in the blogging world has fallen - don’t you want to bring it back up again?
oh puleeze. Who cares about the blogging world? BO is sleaze bucket and more and more people are waking up to that fact.
Click the link. It’s the title of the article, based on interviews with his campaign.
I’ve not been able to find the article, but I read awhile back that Penn is taking a deep cut in his consulting fees. He is considered a “soft” debt and not a part of what Hillary is working to reduce. His fees are, obviously, negotiable.
I’ve just not bothered to correct you Obamabots, since you love to be bitter that she ran a campaign. Punishment is your deal. The message is consistent. MAKE HER SUFFER!
Which is also why you’re not getting any money for her supporters who actually sent in money and worked for her. That attitude is just poor sportsmanship. Gloaters feel good for a minute, but they lose in the long run.
But….don’t even worry your pea-brain at all. We’ve got her back. We gave you guys a chance at unity, and you blew it.
We’re paying it off. And we don’t need your 10 bucks.
Every candidate ends a campaign with debt, and Clinton had a large operation that reflected extraordinary primary season. So stop Obamabot bleating about Clinton’s “management.” She did great and so did her campaign, particularly the last few months when they really pulled it together. She outshone Obama by miles. And still does. I’ve noticed that Obama pulled in less cash than he spent at the end as well.
It’s tradition for one candidate to pay off his/her opponent’s debt when s/he is presumed the nominee. This said, we should not count on Obama to do the right thing. Let’s keep contributing to HRC until her debt is paid off. I’m donated $50 this week and will continue to do so until her debt is erased.
Of course his fundraisers are not obligated to pay off her debt. Her fundraiser and supporters are not obligated to donate to him or vote for him at Convention. He has no obligation to choose her as his running mate if he wins and she has no obligation to choose him, if she wins. No one has an obligation to unify the party and win the general election. BTW. President Andrea Merkel of Germany also seems to think she has no obligation to allow him to make a speech at the Brandenburg Bridge and has said so. Hillary has no obligation to campaign for him. She has clearly done her part. Bill Clinton is not obligated to endorse him or campaign for him and I can’t understand why the media thinks he should. If they think Bill is going to kiss the ring they are crazy. He has already said Obama can kiss his ass, which Obama has no obligation to do. No obligations here to even reply to your comments or listen to you insult Hillary yet again. I’m not obligated to give you advise, but I will anyway. Never underestimate Bill and Hillary Clinton. “I’ll never give up and I’ll never give in’”. may be too subtle for you.
Well said.
Hillary 08!!!!!!
Hear! Hear! and Amen!
You haven’t checked Alexa lately, have you?
This might come as a huuuuuuge surprise to you little pissants, but the VAST majority of America goes to work every day. When they come home, the first thoughts in their minds do not include rushing to the computer to read Daily Kos. In fact, they don’t even know who Daily Kos and HUFFPO are. Walk down the street and ask a hundred strangers over 25 and you will find that out. Most people are too busy supporting people under 25 to care about bloggers. The fact is, there are more of them than there are of you. So your “blogging community” bleating is laughable.
As for blaming Hillary or us “Insignificant” PUMA/JSND people, I’m just fine with taking blame. We aren’t going to give that sexist piggish Changeling hoax one dime. Same goes for the DNC. Let them eat Obama buttons.
You all bought into your bullshit hype that we are all “downscale” and have no money. You all pretend you are hot shit. The Joke’s on you. Most of us are supporting at least one of you pissants so that you can appear “upscale”. We have advanced degrees and we have earned our nuts. So when you say you don’t need us, you are wrong. We are the reason Barky Obama is going to dry up. If I dropped a penny on the ground I would step on his hand if he tried to pick it up.
Get out your calculator because I know your gen can’t add without one. Let’s talk numbers. The polls say there are between 10 percent and 25 percent of Hillary supporters who have no use for Barack Obama. WHich poll you choose to believe doesn’t matter a whit, because the total of the bodies adds up to between 1,800,000 and 4,500,000. Either way, that’s enough to send that hoaxy sack of crap you worship packing. And we will do it too.
I guess he will just have to tap more Pakistani duel citizens to get his money because Hillary’s major donors have just about told him to crap in his hat and put it on his head.
If Barack Obama blames Hillary, and the history of him tells us he always blames somebody else for his own shortcomings, then we Hillary supporters he “doesn’t need” are proud to take the rap. How’s that?
uppitywoman08–
AMEN and AMEN!
So Elizabeth obama should have carte blanche over Hillary’s supporters who have raised 4.1 million for the fraud and his supporters only cough up 100k….LOL you are a hypocrit, thats all right though we Hillary supporters have raised just about the amount needed to pay down her debt, haven’t heard if we hit the mark or not, but obama won’t have anyone to blame in a short while.
Hillary supporters are paying off her campaign debt, as we should because she stood for everything we wanted to believe in America and we are willing to pay for this message.
We don’t need your help and have never asked for it, Obama. Get out of our campaign because you are not needed and you are not welcome. You stand for everything we cannot stand.
Go to Hillary.com and send in your $10 and $20 because there are millions of us and we add up and Obama knows this now no matter how contemptuously he has tried to dismiss us.
Notice the full-court grovel Obama is pandering now to get our support. And how good it feels to kick him in the face now, instead of having felt his vicious, smirking blows all through out the campaign while he pretended he alone was taking the higher road in this race. Baloney. Eat that, Obama.
Well dear Elizabeth, Hillary has helped him raise millions and what does he do but forget to even ask his donors at a fund raiser for her.
We PUMA’s have almost wiped out her debt so we don’t need him anymore, Screw him and that Bernie Mac that opened at the Chicago Fund Raiser last night. What a real man he is? Bernie Mac should be tarred and feathered and rode out of town on a rail for talking the way he did last night but then what can we expect it’s Chicago and Obama is his buddy. How disgusting, what maggots those two are.
Nor is “Personal Responsibility”. Hmm! That reminds us of who, Boys & Girls? That would be DUBYA! Oh my - Obama is the second coming of DUBYA.
He’s also 70% short of an acceptable presidential candidate as far as I’m concerned.
The DNC is in financial distress while they watch the insignificant JSND-PUMA movement pay off Hillary’s debt. How much fun is that?
Way fun!
it’s a blast! I keep asking…does anyone know if we succeeded? I bought the t-shirt yesterday….but can’t tell if we paid off the remaining debt or not.
I’m sure enjoying it.
You got it. The meme may be that Hillary’s debt is a “problem,” but the power boyz know exactly what’s going on.
And they are probably very worried, too.
Aw, come on, give us a break. stink’s 100% short of acceptable for any politcal position.
Woooohoooooo!
Only 70% short - You are generous tonight. Me, I’d put it at 90% short of anyone I’d even give the time of day to, never mind the Presidency.
BO’s overweening ego just refuses to understand that WE will not give to him cuz we plain cannot stand him.
Love watching those who stole, cheated, lied and broke laws now getting their Karmic due with much more to come.
Karma is biting them in the ass. They deserve it and more. It’s more fun when it happens expeditiously, not 20 yrs down the road.
sent the dnc a penny the other day
felt good to contribute
real good
If you didn’t put a stamp on the envelope, at the cost of Business Reply Mail, that would have been about a -75¢ contribution.
HAHAHA Kevin. I just think you are great. I love REAL progressive men, not these phoney commies. Truly, you are a joy.
a goal of $100 M for June, one month?
jezuz christ what arrogance!
I wonder if he’s aware of the economy and how it’s affecting every day people trying to figure out how to put gas in their car and milk in their kid’s glasses.
HAAAAAAHAAAAA, you’re kiddn’ right, this is Obamboozle with the argula sandwiches and expensive ballet lessons who’s wife wears $1200 earrings!!!!
I’m sure Obama’s Rolex Commies will help him out.
Yeah don’t worry, one of those billionaire Pakistanis will stop by, hand him a check and have plenty of time to get back home and set his wife on fire.
HAAAAAAHAAAAA, you’re kiddn’ right, this is Obamboozle with the argula sandwiches and expensive ballet lessons who’s wife wears $1200 earrings!!!!
opps, sorry for the double post.
thats okay –its actually better —point noted twice-
He and his kiss assers thought the Anointed One could turn water into wine, just as he thought he could get Hillary supporters to open their wallets.
More delusions of grandeur.
Yes, after posting here that he fell from an expected $50M to about $30M, I read that his campaign did indeed project a “monster” month of $100M. So, indeed…70% short. EX-Cell-unt!
Comment by Jack | 2008-07-11 22:02:40
Obama raised more than $30 million in June: campaign
Obanbi’s goal was $450 million to $550 million by Nov 2008, that’s approx. $100 million/month, so the $30 million is 70% off the stated goal. Looks good on him anyway, couldn’t happen to a bigger prick.
Even his $30 million/month to Nov 2008 gives him
$150 million, which is almost twice as much as McCain, hardly a level playing field, yet McCain is holding his own and then some.
What needs to happen is his donations to dwindle even more (as I suspect). I mean even his kool-aid drinkers are starting to see the guy is an arrogant, flake, flip flopper.
He best be working it a little harder…
John McCain’s campaign manager told reporters today that Republicans are looking at amassing a combined $400 million war chest for the general election campaign against Barack Obama.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/10/top-aide-mccain-will-have-400-million-campaign-effort/
Don’t forget the national parties. They are used for ground organization, advertising, and GOTV efforts. The RNC has been KILLING the DNC in fundraising, and the RNC group has a ton more money for the convention than does the DNC group.
Republican National Committee (RNC)
• May 2008 receipts: $24.4 million
• Cycle-to-date receipts: $167.7 million
• May 2008 expenditures: $11.5 million
• Cycle-to-date expenditures: $117.3 million
• Cash, May 31: $53.5 million
• Debts, May 31: $0
Democratic National Committee (DNC)
• May 2008 receipts: $4.8 million
• Cycle-to-date receipts: $82.4 million
• May 2008 expenditures: $5.3 million
• Cycle-to-date expenditures: $82.1 million
• Cash, May 31: $4 million
• Debts, May 31: $6,300
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002903408
Yes, Obama wants all the DNC money through him.
McCain has it going through others. Issue ads and 527s will become carniverous soon enough.
Obama has tried to control the money to control the message. All it did was decrease the practipation of others.
He could of course try and attract voters on issues, but he’s used much of those items as fodder to his move to some imaginary middle.
So the issue and platform messages become weaker, and he still sin’t getting the money. Terrible assumption on his part that everyone buys into him instead of their political cause issues.
Why’d he do that?
Bingo. His control over the DNC is backfiring.
Now, those of us who might have remained Democrat but not an Obama fan have walked from the DNC, too.
I am amazed at how stupid the Obamabots are. They aren’t even thinking about donating to the DNC.
Whose going to pay for that convention?
I do hope Bill Clinton is enjoying this.
Revenge: best served cold.
You read my mind, Mr. Natural. Never underestimate Bill Clinton. He was the only guy that could rescue the dead loser party from its funk and they will regret the day they villified him for it. Fun Fun Fun!
Ya, and the rental on that big, hotsy-totsy stadium.
Who is paying to rent that stadium? Will it be the DNC, or The One?
DNC. And they are already 10 million behind in convention costs. Hahahahahahaha.
Oh yeah…..Denver is way pissed! It’s a huge issue that is hurting the mayor a lot.
The DNC missed its payment schedule already. Denver is relying on a kiss and a promise.
Probably that was more behind the stupid stadium deal than anything….the promise of a huge influx of business to offset the fact that the DNC can’t pay its bills.
*blech*
The DNC is an embarassment.
Well, I left the Dem party because of their arrogance and the fact they think I’m half as good as anyone else. Dean and his buddies did anything they could to anoint their messiah. Well, looks like they have him and what good is it going to do them? I’ve always given to the Dem party in the past but this time, all they’ve received from me is a penny and a half of a check. Ha!
The Bots continue on the other boards and blogs, to viciously attack those who supported Clinton and anyone who doesn’t agree with them. So they’re not helping in the least.
Clearly Obama isn’t helping with his flip-flops and lies. Neither is Mee-shell.
So where’s all them thar big bucks a’gonna come from, Mister Obamer?
Gee,if his money is running short, who will he have to eliminate from his payroll? Trolls, maybe? Look out under the bus. Incoming! hee hee
Why’d he do that? Because he’s a narcissist. As such, at his core he sincerely believes that it’s all about him–wonderful him!–and not about anything boring like accomplishments, abilities, and all that Old Politics claptrap.
But haven’t you heard? It’s the Obama Party now!
He’s going to regret not taking public financing. God I love poetic justice.
Group aims to cause DNC chaos The Denver Post Jul 12, ‘08 3:26 AM
for everyone
In Denver this weekend, a group of anarchists who have pledged to disrupt the Democratic National Convention will hold a secret action camp to learn about medical training and legal rights and to practice nonviolent tactics.
“We don’t want history to remember the Democratic National Convention in Denver as something that went smoothly,” said Tim Simons with the self-described anarchist group, Unconventional Denver.
“We want people to know there was dissent and people spoke up,” he said.
In the meantime, local governments in the region are inking contracts to send hundreds of law enforcement officers into Denver during the last week of August to work the convention.
Aurora will send nearly half its force to Denver, Jefferson County will ship more than 100 deputies and Arapahoe County is expecting to add 100.
Dozens of other agencies are sending officers: Colorado State Patrol, Arvada, Wheat Ridge, Englewood, Littleton, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, Douglas County and many others.
“We want to make sure we are adequately staffed for the number of people who are going to be here,” said Sonny Jackson, a Denver police spokesman. He would not disclose what agencies will be participating or how many officers are expected.
“We respect everyone’s First Amendment rights,” Jackson said. “We hope that the citizens will come in and conduct themselves in a law-abiding and responsible manner.”
With the contingent of local officers and federal agents and the money being spent on security from a $50 million federal grant, protesters worry about possible outcomes.
“The police are gearing up for confrontation,” said Glenn Spagnuolo, organizer with the protest group Re-create 68. “Police are getting dressed up for a fight, and if there isn’t one, they will create one.”
He said he has not heard of any of the protest groups planning violence against the police or citizens.
Plan for disruption
Numerous anti-war groups have announced their intention to demonstrate in Denver during the Aug. 25-28 convention, but most have promised peaceful actions. The language of the anarchist groups is more confrontational. Unconventional Denver is part of a national group of anarchists planning to descend on Denver.
The group says it will engage in nonviolent direct action and has called for protesters “to engage in a broad variety of tactics to disrupt fundraising events and prevent Democratic delegates from putting on the spectacle they claim as democracy,” according to the group’s website.
Unconventional Denver wants to shut down, disrupt or delay the convention; storm events; and “ensure that the DNC is a thing of rowdy beauty.”
The website suggests activists “hold” intersections to strand delegates in buses and “swarm” streets to force police to retreat.
The group has posted a schedule of events for certain days:
Sunday, the group wants to reclaim public space in the city. Monday, there will be actions against parties or restaurant outings and a “black bloc” gathering against capitalism. Tuesday, the group wants to shut down access to the Pepsi Center. And Wednesday and Thursday, there will be “creative actions” to address specific issues such as global warming, racism and criminal injustice.
“The streets will be a wild and creative place,” said Simons, a 25-year-old graphic artist who grew up in Boulder and lives in San Francisco.
Simons is helping organize Denver’s group, which meets weekly at a Colfax Avenue coffee shop. He wouldn’t disclose the size of the group.
For six days starting Saturday, they will meet at an undisclosed location to discuss actions and learn how to tend to one another’s medical needs and how to legally monitor the police reactions.
Simons says there will be street theater, “guerrilla gardening” and ways for alternative forms of media to get out their message.
A group called the Colorado Street Medics will be on hand throughout the protests to provide immediate medical service, said Zoe Williams, who is coordinating the expected 120 volunteer street medics.
“We don’t want to see a dark, evil atmosphere descending on Denver,” Simons said. “We want a festive atmosphere that celebrates grassroots movements.”
History of violence
Yet, historically, law enforcement officials have blamed anarchists for violence in protests.
In 2003, Colorado Springs Police Chief Luis Velez said, officers used tear gas on war protesters after anarchists from Denver disrupted the peaceful rally with violent acts blocking an intersection and banging on cars.
Anarchists took center stage in Seattle during the 1999 World Trade Organization meeting, when protesters smashed shop windows and police shot tear gas and rubber bullets. The National Guard and state patrol were called in to quell the chaos.
“I was there,” said Simons, who blamed police force for the trouble. “We were standing up for democracy.”
Simons said the real message of what people want will not be heard in the Pepsi Center or in the Democratic Party’s platform; it will come from what is being said in the streets.
“Politicians and the people in power should be afraid
I wonder if Obama’s pal Ayers is the teacher??
Why are they focused on the Democratic Convention in Denver?
Don’t ya think real anti-war protesters would be planning to disrupt the Republican Convention in MN?
Barbara, we appreciate all your Republican Help, but we know all about Recreate68. If you would kindly take the time to search the archives and actually read what we are all about, you would see that this is not news to us. I only tell you this because your posts are very cut/paste formal, contain very little interaction with us as humans, and a lot of condescending “let me inform you” material.
If I am wrong about your intent, I apologize. But it would be kind of nice if you would be less robotic and actually talk to instead of down to us. Trust me, we have IQs.
You can start here
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/11/recreate68s-bodyhammer-tactics-self-defense-manual/
Obambi need not blame Hillary or her supporters.
My son just last night told me Obama was “terrible.”
He was a former supporter.
If I could’ve influenced my own son before, I would’ve. It’s OBAMA HIMSELF who is tanking his own campaign.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Too right, and I’m so glad your son has realised just who Obama is.
Funny oboe used to say in his own special cocky way that the more we got to know him the more we would like him…..turns out it was just the opposite!
So true!
As the saying goes: “Familiarity breeds contempt”…at least it has with the flim flam flip floppy man.
Hillary / McCain 08
he also said he could get hillary’s voter but she could not get his. boy was that wrong
PhxNickD — Remember when Obama went on about the Primaries being too long–like the Bataan Death March. This guy only cares about himself and doesn’t have a clue that thousands of American Soldiers died in the Bataan Death March while he ate the best food and flew all over the country making the same speech. Oh yeah, and the other guy in the race WAS tortured for 5 years when he was a POW. I bet we don’t hear McCain saying his torture reminds him of this election season.
and soon enough he won’t even be able to get his own! Bwaaaa haaa haaa!!!
Just what the country needs in this economy is a moaning president. Dear God let an adult win this election.
Actually, he’ll just blame it on the Clintons!
In that he is like Guiliani. The more you learn about him, the less you like him.
Funny oboe used to say in his own special cocky way that the more we got to know him the more we would like him…..turns out it was just the opposite!
I’m glad your son realized just who/what Obama is.
I just read CNN’s home page and there’s one scary story, “2nd largest US Bank failure in history”
… and Obambi’s going to be in charge of things around here?
I don’t know which scares me more, his incompetence or the fact I simply don’t trust him. The people around him will perform corruption at such a high degree, on such a complicated level, that god knows when any of us will be able to see them and their management for what they really are.
I mean many of us saw thru the bush/cheney crap early on and it took yrs for many others to come on board.. but I’m concerned with the intellectual white collar corruption that will take place in the obama circus ring.
No problem. Obamboozle will blame Hillary for everything when he is president.
Obama loves Bank hucksters and subprime people. His top ten contributors include at least four of them and the owner of the failed Superior Bank, which owes the FDIC nearly a half a billion dollars, is his NATIONAL FINANCE CHAIR.
And wasn’t that Jim Johnson character the former head of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac or one of the mortgage houses?
This BHO character has some sort of amazing judgment.
And according to Nancy P. “he’s fresh”
Fresh can describe many things…… every day i have loads of “fresh” horse shit in my pasture…….”fresh” doesn’t always add up to a good thing!
great!I love it.
“Fresh”…like a douche
Facelifts Pelosi will next be recommending Barky because of his “hint of musk”.
Yup Joe. I envision a pardoned Tony Rezko in charge of HUD too. Reverend Go Screw Yourself America in charge of “faith based initiatives” the encompass a bigger house for himself.
There is an interesting article about BO’s sup-prime affiliations called “Subprime Obama” (just google it) Also, I believe another article has just come out revisitingthis issue (can’t recall where I saw it.
Yup!
You know I was just thinking about that before as I read the article (and thinking about his past responses to anything that comes up).
Bush never admits mistakes cuz he’s never made any (in his own delusional mind). So he admits no mistakes cuz there were none.
With Obama, he’ll just make mistakes and always blame someone else. It’s guaranteed. With his behavior that we see now, there’s no question what route he’ll go when he errors.
BJ and he has the audacity to discuss “personal responsibility”.
u r so right —
obama himself is showing his own loser ass–liar face
Did your son tell you why he’d changed his mind?
I remember you talked about your son supporting Obama before. It was very cool of you to allow him to make his own decisions and just stand back.
Its real hard to admit that you were wrong, so kudos to your son!!
I have a friend, previous Clinton Supporter (and before that, Edwards) who had previously said he’d decide who to vote for after the McCain and Obama debates. Now? He says that plan is out the window. There’s no way he’d vote for Obama if he were the only candidate standing.
Keep up the good work, OHuckster.
we all knew from the start, any problems in BHO’s camp will be blamed on Hillary. I have not given one red cent to Obama or the DNC and will continue to help retire Hillary’s debt as I can. I just received a solicitation from McCain and will be sending some money that way also. It feels good to know BHO and the DNC are not reaching their money goals.
Oh of course… we also have to expect that if (hopefully when) Obama loses in the general election, he and his his supporters will blame it on Hillary staying “in too long” or her supporters being “too bitter”, “not donating enough” etc. etc. (basically fill in any excuse to blame Hillary).
Obama gets a hangnail? Hillary’s fault! Hurricane in the Caribbean: Hillary’s fault! This primary season sure was a lesson in the physics of misogyny.
To hell with them. Hillary was their scapegoat for everything that went wrong while Bill Clinton was in office. “Hillary failed on UHC.” “NAFTA was all her idea.” “If she could have kept her man happy, then the Monica Lewinsky scandal wouldn’t have happened.” It goes on and on. Well, Barack Obama isn’t owed one single thing from Hillary Clinton or her supporters. If he fails, it’s because his campaign failed to plan beyond June 4.
Does Obama still expect the DNC to foot the bill for Obama’s acceptance speech at the Denver Football Stadium? It would seem a cutback is in order bearing in mind that neither the DNC or Obama have enough money for these frills. I know the American people have had to cut back. So there are things you might not be able to have BO — GET OVER IT.
throw the Arugula under the bus BHO!!
pick up the “iceburg” instead it’s cheaper!
and it tastes better!
Old English - You’re lying to me.
New English - You’re bullshitting me.
From now on - You’re baracking me.
Ooh, I like that!
I like that!
Perfect!
Backtrack is baracking me.
Behavior that is an obamanation, baracktracking on his promises, preaching “change” and “hope”, stumbling over barackisms as he reaches for the right words, to explain away his endless flip flops and baroken promises, has left the Chosen One, the new Messiah, feeling quite michellancoly.
He’s angry that people dare to ayer his past, knowing we are wright to expose the dirt in his closet. He’s worried that America will find out he’s not the wright person to protect us all from the axelrod of evil.
BJ- 23:14:44
LMAO..now THAT is the comment of the YEAR!! Kudos!
too cool, it needs a dude, or man on the end..
“Backtrack is barackin me man”
or dude, backtrack pulled a barack on us”
ohhh yeah that one is a keeper fer shure
LOL! and so right.
perfect —
he is baracking
or i like the “MR NO DOCTOR“
Perfect!! going to borrow that one!
From another board:
If 40 is the new 30,
if 50 is the new 40,
if 60 is the new 50,
then Axelrod is the new Rove.
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
The early video by PUMA rep Will Bowers says it all about the Obama implosion.
The fact that Hillary can raise money after she has suspended her campaign shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is an illegitimate selection by the overlords of the once great Democrat party.
I gave two donations today…
One for the patriot Hillary
One for the leader who won the Iraq war for America.
Reading through….
One for the patriot Hillary
One for the leader who won the Iraq war for America.
That just sounds good…Thank you …
It may sound good but the idea that Iraq was “won” is another whole topic :(. won is far from the right word here.
IndyMac. Feds seize IndyMac. Second largest bank failure in History. Why are the Bushes always “around” when banks fail “big time.”
What is Obama doing? Booking his Denver rock concert and scouting out his european tour in Germany. How can anyone honestly look at Obama and think he can remotely handle this terrible crumbing economY? For that matter the same can be said for McCain. Hillary can do it. Hillary is smart and rock steady. Obama is frail and weak minded.
I believe in the American people. Somehow when January 2009 rolls around Hillary will be president.
From my keyboard to God’s eyes.
Amen.
When I first heard that BHO will not take public funding, my first thought was - it is a risky business. How can one predict the turn out of the donations? This might bring him down.
I too believe that he will implode one way or the other.
If not, there is McCain. He won’t be as good as Hillary, but he will try his best to help the economy.
God, I hope Hillary ends up being the nominee!
I’ve always felt although Bill Clinton was a great president and brilliant….Hillary was brilliant and focused. Much more focus than Bill. She would be even better.
I completely agree with you. I truly believe that HRC will be a more focuses and effective president than Bill.
Ooh.
That sent a shiver down my back.
Let’s hope it’s true!
I’m trying so hard to have faith in you guys too (I’m from the UK). I think it’s very doubtful (unfortunately) that Hillary will be nominated at the convention, especially with Obama’s new plans for it.
IF I was American, I would no way vote for Obama. Not for one second would I contemplate it. I did give him a chance back at the beginning of the year for a few days until realised there was just nothing there. Then the Rev. Wright stuff popped up and just confirmed the NO for me.
That leaves McCain… who I probably would vote for just because there is no way I’d want Obama.
However, I don’t believe either of them is the right person for the job. It would be like the lesser of two evils.
Hillary, however, would take your country, and the world to a new level. She has every single quality you could want in a president, including amazing vision and stunning intelligence.
I’m keep my fingers so tightly crossed that somehow things change and she gets in.
-Hillary supporter from across the pond
Cheers
With a great attitude like that and a keen sense of the best candidate Davey we will make you an honorary US citizen (purely honorary though no need to denounce it if you run for public office). We need more smart voters like you!
Awww well that brought a smile to my face! If only it were that easy to become a US citizen!
I’ve been looking into getting a visa to live and work over there (I ultimately do actually want to become a US citizen). But it’s much more difficult than expected - almost impossible unless you fit certain specific criteria.
However, if Obama becomes president, I’ve told my friends that I’d seriously reconsider my move there if I ever did get the opportunity. I don’t think I’d want to live in a place that’s run by Obama.
So fingers crossed for us all!
hey Davey, if you can make it to Mexico, I know a guy who can get you across. Coyote, Ed Coyote’s the name.
Just joking of course, but I hope that you soon realise your dream, my limey friend.
[changed the z to s just for you]
And it is much appreciated!!!
stunning intelligence.
Back across the pond at ya.
Davey,
It’s always refreshing to get a thoughtful comment from across the pond.
As Wellington might have said:
“in for a penny, in for a pound”.
Of course, he never understood campaign finance, and was from the Irish gentry.
Bang on Davey, and “Damned he that cries enough”.
Welcome, Davey.
Don’t take any bad pennies. There’s a good lad.
Davey - Thank you for commenting from “across the pond.” I get discouraged when I read the European newspapers online as well as the commenters posts over there. It seems (based upon their comments anyway) that BO is loved more across the pond than here in the U.S. At least we have the Republicans and Hillary supporters who know what a con-artist he is. Some of the worst comments I read about Hillary were posts from Europeans so I relished reading that you were on to BO’s game. Please spread the word over there -NoBama.
Well one of the big problems we’ve had is with media coverage, just like you guys. It hasn’t been quite as one sided as over there, but even the BBC couldn’t help themselves sometimes. You could tell they just loved the “First Black President” ideal and every report had that little twinge about it.
Of course it doesn’t help when most of the correspondents are people who have lived and worked in Washington DC for many years, so I imagine they’re bound to get caught up in it to some extent.
The most balanced news coverage has been from Channel 4 News. They’re usually very good, and were the best this time around.
I have to say I’m very disappointed in the BBC - I thought they were the one organisation I could trust. I actually emailed them with a complaint a couple of months ago.
I guess in terms of business it makes sense - more exciting stories get more viewers and that’s what it’s all about. Selling the “First Black President” just takes the edge over “First Woman President” I suppose??
But seeing as the BBC is funded with our money directly from us, I wasn’t too happy!
Trying to be an optimist here in CA, hon. Thanks for the kind thoughts.
I’ll be visiting your lovely country in a few weeks — London and then Cardiff. If only I could stay. I love Wales …
Well I hope you thoroughly enjoy it! One of my best friends is from Wales - Carmarthenshire if you know it?
I love CA too! Fingers crossed I can get out there soon.
Have no fear… there is a new wind blowing towards Denver.
PUMA and other support groups across American have been in a “pay Hillary’s debt frenzy.” I believe it has worked.
DNC put restrictions if the debt wasn’t paid she wouldn’t be able to be added in the role call in Denver. She’ll be on the first role call.
Gotta love that breeze!
so, Davey, please spread the anti-Obama word in your part of the world. I can’t imagine why anyone in the UK, France or Germany thinks this guy is anything other than the lying, slick huckster that he is.
Well in part it’s the media coverage - see a post I just made above.
But if it helps (this did make me happier), last weekend I met up with a big bunch of my old friends and 3 of us were chatting about the Presidential campaign. I thought they might love Obama (they’re both around my age - 23), but to my surprise they could see right through him.
One of them had been living in NYC whilst doing a PhD for the last 8 months so I guess she’s experienced the primaries first hand.
We didn’t have chance to chat about it for too long, but the one thing we all 100% agreed on… you can not sit in a church for 20 years while hate was spouted and then claim you heard nothing.
Obama supporters would probably tell me to stop living in the past, but it’s true. That was the first revelation that made me thoroughly dislike Obama, and since then it’s been just another and another.
I’ve also spoken in depth to my family over here about it. My sister, mother and grandma all cannot believe what is going on over there. They all love Hillary - I wish we could’ve voted lol. My father is a bit more 50/50. He’s very intelligent and follows UK politics more than anyone else I know, but with everything I’ve been telling him (things that he hasn’t known through the MSM) he’s starting to see Obama in a different light I think.
So don’t worry… we’re not all crazy for a Obama. My wish list (and many others) for this year looks like:
1. Hillary becomes President (but if that doesn’t happen…)
2. Obama doesn’t.
You made me cry with that one Davey. Thanks for the words.
Hey Davey! What is the general mood in the U.K. over the Democratic Party primaries? Who are the Brits for — Hillary or Obama; Obama or McCain?
The UK Guardian has come out with some interesting analyses about what a raw deal Clinton received in the primary process.
AAAAAAA
(wo)MEN
we will remember in November — Why is a Bush always in office when the economy comes apart? Just a coincidence I guess. Hah
Yup. s. hall. The bush’s are two nightmare bookends against thriving economies.
Amen!
Through my brain …
Not a praying man, but I’m sending good thoughts skyward.
Obama is a joke. I don’t think I’ll ever get over how many people (who were meant to be intelligent) were/are fooled by him.
I have friends who I fully respected until quite recently, when I realised they seem to love Obama but have no idea who he is or what he stands for.
Still, I doubt any of this would change them. They’re blinded. It makes me sad that so many good people have chosen such an awful candidate, and will refuse to admit they were wrong, or just plain cannot see it.
“Obama is a joke. I don’t think I’ll ever get over how many people (who were meant to be intelligent) were/are fooled by him.”
He appeals to the conceits of the “intelligentsia”, really just snobby urbanites, the kind of people who snickered at Obama’s “cling” comments and say “It’s so true.” Try asking them about why Obama seems to cling to religion to, I’ve gotten blank stares.
Any time anyone (like Obama) tells me how smart I am to do what he wants I keep my hand firmly on my wallet.
That was the underlying message:
Being pro-Bama
proved you were smart
proved you were cool
proved you so totally past racism
proved you were the chosen, the select, the elite.
…proved there is a sucker born every minute.
A couple weekends ago a friend of mine invited me to a Barack Obama party she was having. I told her I can’t go because I’m the enemy. She said I should go anyway to learn about him. I begged off politely.
She’s a good-hearted woman, I think the reason she supports him is because she thinks he will end the Iraq war. I haven’t spoken to her indepth about him at all, there’s certain people you can talk politics with and then some you can’t.
After the PA primary I asked another friend of mine who she voted for, fully expecting her to say Hillary. No, her husband convinced her to vote for Barry. I said to friend, “you know HIllary has a better chance of beating McCain”, and my friend did admit she had serious reservations and thought she might regret her Obama vote. Haven’t spoken to her recently, but I know she is experiencing Obama remorse.
See, that’s the problem with us Hillary supporters, we’re too nice! If you had been an Obambam supporter in the same situation you would have probably harrassed and bullied your friend to support HIM!
Just kidinng, not really!
You’re so right… I was called a “racist a**” by one of my best friends (who supports Obama) when I told him I didn’t think Obama was qualified. I never once mentioned race (seeing as it’s not an issue to me), but that doesn’t seem to stop them does it?!
We haven’t spoken since, and I’m not sure if I ever want to.
Man, Oblahma is not only dividing this country, but the UK as well!
Crazy eh?
imustprotest–please explain? How is this all playing out in the UK?
What else can they say? There simply is no way to refute the argument that Obama is unqualfied. Because he IS.
Did you see the big racist accusation row over a guy mentioning a Black Hole. A scientific term depicting the complete absense of light is now racist. They are demanding an apology and the guy is like, WTF are you people talking about!?
Oh my! But sadly that doesn’t surprise me one bit.
I did see that and thought, “It’s starting.” There is going to be a huge, huge outpouring of this type of crap.
Lordy…
I guess that is inevitable.
In the 1980″s a transportation co said you could no longer use the term “black friday” for the day after Thanksgiving. Some fool thought it was racist.
The day after Thanksgiving is the biggest shopping day of the year and the stores go from red ink to black ink. It was a bookkeeping term.
If you are looking for a problem there is always a way to find it.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
“an obama party”
now that’s scary shit!!!
and you are right, there are some you can talk to, and others, you know are missng a few eggs in that basket of a brain when it comes to certain topics..
I have a friend I don’t dare talk to until after November. He would get into one disaster after another - Herbalife, failed Direct Mail Marketing schemes. I guess I should have expected he’s support Obama.
I used to joke that the RNC voting registries were nothing but a sucker list - something that they peddled to boiler rooms and direct marketing scammers between election cycles.
Thanks to Team Obama, that’s all changed.
Now it’s the DNC that owns the rights to America’s best sucker list.
My husband’s 11 yr old granddaughter told me in February she liked Obama best. I asked her why and she said “Because I like to say his name”. I told her “Well, that’s why you are not allowed to vote.”
Interesting! I have two teenage nieces (both in Catholic High Schools in Sacramento & Berkeley, CA), one supported Obama at the beginning of the primaries, the other HRC.
By May–and without influence by me or her mother–the Obama supporter had switched to HRC. When asked why, she said that Obama spoke in vague terms and generalities and that she didn’t know how specifically he was going to change things. After watching the debates and the primary stump speeches, she now viewed HRC as the most capable of the two, a candidate with a plan and specifics to back it up. This niece reported that most of the student body in this all-girl high school was for HRC.
Unfortunately, the other niece and her male friends who supported HRC were called racists by the Obama crowd! To her dismay, HRC campaign signs posted on walls and student lockers were destroyed by Obama supporters. All in all, the atmosphere was very intimidating for HRC supporters at this Berkeley co-ed high school. She was very sensitive to the misogyny against HRC, both by the Obama campaign and by the media. This really depressed her. But she, too, sensed a buddying women’s movement for her generation as a result of the way these primaries played out.
Oh yeah, that hundred grand he’s managed to dig up for her is breaking Obama. That made the difference in his coffers.
I think Hillary has probably outraised Obama in June and he is embarassed about being shown up by someone who’s not even campaigning. I’ll bet she is kicking his ass in July, too.
The problem with Obama is he assumes that we would be giving to him if she would just not ask for help with her debt. The DNC made it imperitive for us to help Hillary right now because they have moved the deadline for her to cover her debts three times in an effort to keep her off the ballot. So, barack could blame the DNC if he can’t take his own responsibility for being a loser.
Oh and Barack, I would never give you one nickel. EVER. What I gave Hillary this week came out of my car fixing fund, not my Obama fund. There isn’t one of those.
apishapa
The DNC made it imperitive for us to help Hillary right now because they have moved the deadline for her to cover her debts three times in an effort to keep her off the ballot.
Has there been anything officially released by the DNC or Obama regarding your comment?
I Am reading “sources say” material but not first hand accounts being reported.
To the extent the DNC has rules they follow, what legal obligation does Hillary have to pay off her debt in any time frame?
This “moved the deadline three times” has been confirmed?
Thanks.
You rang?
Obama’s June fundraising is probably less than 10 million. If it were 30 million, they would be tripping over themselves to report they raised more than McCain and all from the internet.
But, Obama is witholding the June fundraising numbers so they can pump them up with funds received in July.
They will withold July numbers to pump them up with August funds.
This will go on until the Convention, where they hope to generate cash from the hoopla.
His scheme is catching up to him, and the donations are drying out. All that dough he raised in the primary was from those who wanted to defeat Hillary.
There’s nothing to trumpet.
Anything less than the 100 million he promised, is embarrassing.
Remember, he promised to raise enough for the DNC and down-ticket Dems to justify their support.
I still think the republicans were main donors to his primary campaign and they have gone home to the RNC to help McCain.
As soon as Hillary suspended her campaign..the money started to slow down. When he did his arrogant 180 degree turn…is dried up.
I agree. Plus all anti-Hillary contributors dried up, too. All the committed Democratic contributors who would normally support the general election fund are Hillary supporters.
Could be that. Or even worse, he’s bundling DNC contribution numbers into the Obama “total.”
well if they relied on his financial promise for their endorsement I hope they all fall also
No Johnny, I think BaWhack’s campaign DID raise
$30 million in June.
Problem is,
they spent $45 million.
THAT’S why they’re not “tripping over themselves”
to announce it.
Heh heh.
He always projects two third of his expected cash intake.
They claim to match 100% your donation with that of another person.
Then they expect you to follow up with a matching donation to your initial amount.
That’s a 200% markup.
Thus, 30 million was being proclaimed 90 million.
Turns out 30 million was really ten million.
Plus, their failed attempt at “raffling” a special place in the convention for a $5. plus doantion got flushed under that bus. Have to subtract those projections.
No money from me for the DNC. No money from me for their selected candidate.
They would not give me the time of day eight months ago when I started calling the DNC to ask if they were ever going to vet Obama. I got my posts deleted on the DNC website when I asked about Obama and Ayers and the PLO.
Those who think this third generation yellow dog and my 23 voting members in many state will vote for Obama and fall in line in November are……. crazy.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
Cnn has a special on tonite called The Clintons.Never Quit. What a fantastic 360. They are talking about her 18 million people and is she really out? Fantastic if anyone can watch the reruns
I saw it, it was a good choice.
I liked it when they said basically that HRC supporter hold the key to this election! lol
show*
Yeah, it could have been worse. I wondered about the timing. But they still blasted Bill!
I think it is so interesting that they had this show on tonight. I know for sure that the Clintons never quit, and I’m damn glad of it. Could it be that the worm is finally starting to turn? Poor Nobamalamadingdong- can’t raise any money & that nasty Hillary’s getting it all. Hell- she’s raising money & isn’t supposedly in the race- but she sure as hell isn’t really out of it. He can’t say that she didn’t keep up her end of the bargain, can he? I’m sure that fact hasn’t gone unnoticed by millions of Americans, either. Let’s just hope it is getting noticed by the SDs. She just makes Nobama look like such a no-class act it isn’t funny. I mean it would be funny if it wasn’t so damned critical… She looks & sounds presidential & he looks & sounds like an arrogant, petulant wannabe without a clue. How embarrassing he is to our country. Oh, crap, just wait ’til Waffles goes to Europe- and pisses off everyone there… Excuse me- just WHY is he going to Europe to campaign for US Pres.??? Maybe he thinks it’ll be his best chance to go as he ISN’T GOING TO BE POTUS.
He should have gone to Europe while he was serving his first year in the US Senate on the Senate Foreign Affairs European Subcommittee. Look how much Biden did with that position.
Hell, even Dubya offered a better pretense at workin’.
It’s the only place he can take his fake presidential seal and maybe many people won’t notice.
He’s also planning to sponsor a NASCAR in the Poconos.
I am giving $$$ to ACLU to overturn BHO’s vote on FISA, not to his campaign to sponsor a NASCAR or football stadium star-turn.
Next Obama will do commercials for the NRA.
And Obo will wear a Confederate flag pin on his lapel.
LOL
AND drive a pick up truck!
with a gun rack, gun, and a bitter old white lady in the bed of the pick up holding a bible…
and the white lady in the bed of the pick up will be wearing an Annie Oakley outfit.
WIth a hound in the front seat and an EasyRider Rifle Rack in the back window.
Don’t forget the “Honk If You’re For Telecom Immunity” sticker on the back bumper.
I’m sorry, I think I ruptured something laughing at this …
Damn, that was primo!
“Honk If You’re for Telecomm Immunity”
LOL! Dang, where I can I get me one?
Or the Duke boys “General Lee”.
I pity that poor driver. Can’t imagine an Obama car will receive a warm welcome at NASCAR. Which one of Obie’s bonehead advisors recommended this fiasco?
Probably the same one who dreamed up the seal!LOL!
and the UNITY in Unity! (with coordinating pantsuit to tie)
OMG wouldn’t it be just hysterical if the car crashes and burns? (No harm to the driver intended.) I’m not surprised - said before watch for his face to turn up on Coke cans and packaged diapers.
Only see 1 comment about what seems closest to the truth: Everything in bozo’s camp has always been the opposite of what is true. He claimed huge internet small donors made him - but I looked at his Feb records and far too many were “unemployed students” giving the max - several thou $$$ at once-
That doesn’t sound like small donors- that sounds like corporate cover money run through the laundry chain in family members names - Why else did he have the only campaign to accept $$ from 16 yr olds - when all others have minimum contributer age of 18? Obviously to hide PAC money.
Since his funds are lessening, then, it seems that the PAC $ are what’s really drying up? Why?
Because it was probably a lot of Republican $ to get Hillary out of the race.
well the good thing there would be I would quit drinking Coke and I just picked up 10 cases for the rest of summer. It’s cheaper than milk and I do not do Pepsi I agreed with Bill Gates he should not have to pack a half Coke and Half Pepsi as I would really be ticked if I had to buy it that way.
To make it even worse - its a TOYOTA car.
Is it really?
Whatta tool!
The same people who thought he could make his own presidential seal…. what a load of shit!……a fraud can never be legit….
Comment by Gloria | 2008-07-11 22:03:20
He’s also planning to sponsor a NASCAR in the Poconos.
I am giving $$$ to ACLU to overturn BHO’s vote on FISA, not to his campaign to sponsor a NASCAR or football stadium star-turn.
The other drivers would put that car into a wall on the first turn = no air time, lol.
you know that’s no joke
and that’s just the drivers…imagine all those bitter God and gun-clinging fans in the stands all fired up
I hope they rethink this. Wait- what am I saying - I’m only 90 mins from Pocono, think I’ll need ringside seats!
NASCAR JOKES:
Q: What had 96 legs and 30 teeth?
A: The front row of spectators at Pocono!
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I dumped a box of Skittles into the toilet and flushed it. Saw the whole Daytona 500 in 12 seconds!
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Go Kyle!
Oooh..probably too late to get a PUMA car in the race…I wouldn’t mind driving it myself if I could go after bambams’s
That’s hilarious!
A PUMA NASCAR season would really rock!
If you chicken out in the curves at 150 MPH,
We could bring up our second team driver:
The Geico gecko.
Likes fast cars, motorcycles, and has a Boy George accent to boot.
Jimmy Clark and Sterling Moss could really take some notes from the racing performances of that little green guy.
I can’t drive fifty five. People!
The driver of the car, Ken Schrader is an honest man and wishing him to crash is not cool, that is reserved for Kyle Bush.
Anyway, it did not take long to back out of the deal.
“http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iDdNRC8t7qhXtwS4eFzCGW-bpsxgD91S2UD80″
Another flip-flop!
Not to narrowly categorize the entire stock car crowd, but there are still a lot of confederate flags at races, not his demographic
Oh well, they just put a fresh coat of primer on a Chevette. Howard Dean was going to paint a rebel flag on it for those votes….
OUCH! I hope he drives better than he bowls!
He should put all of his sponsors on the car. Crown, GE, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, Exelon, JP Morgan Chase & Co., Ubs Ag, Time Warner, Microsoft, Google and Exxon Mobil. They’re gonna have to put some decals on the windows…
and maybe a little clown car for the lobbyists Sidley Austin LLP, Skadden Arps et al, Wilmerhale LLP, and Kirkland and Ellis. They contributed $960,415 dollars to his campaign as of May.
Maybe he should be selling these.
http://obamaschocolatenuts.com/2008/06/obamas-chocloate-nuts-yes-we-can/
EEEWWW….I couldn’t eat THOSE!
Not even if Larry Sinclair’s does the commercial?
Absolutely Zee, Obama has created his own problems. I saw tonight he was down (and McCain up) in a Newsweek poll released today.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145556
Last month he led 51 to 36 vs McCain. Todays poll:
His lead is 44 vs 41 for McCain.
Last I read, BOs camp is saying he raised 30 mil in June v 22 mil for McCain, but we will see when the actual numbers come out. As Larry points out, Hillary has nothing to do with his numbers…since his maxed out contributers can’t help him now anyways (at least in theory). I’d venture to guess that PUMAS have raised a lot more to retire his debt than his people have.
ROAR (from a voter who should just “get over it”)
oops, I meant her debt.
turn on cnn…… They just showed noquarter on cnn…
I’m going to see if it is on later. CNN…who could have guessed? Not as bad as MSNBO, but close.
Thanks for the heads up Smith and Gloria.
Turned it on now.
Comment by Smith | 2008-07-11 22:06:57
turn on cnn…… They just showed noquarter on cnn…
Darn I missed it, can you give us a synopsis?
It repeats in an hour. I haven’t watched CNN in about 4 months. Started watching FOX again after I bouycotted it for the last 8 years. I think I needed the change. CNN and MSNBO were rotting my brain.
I gave the maximum for Hillary and some more which went to her senate campaign and my husband did too but not to the same extent. I am in a position to give more for GE but would not give a red cent to Obama or the DNC. Hell, I am not even giving him/them my vote.
Also, watch out PUMA. The distortions will start if not occurring (like Larry says)already about his shortfall being due to Hillary’s debt. You be ready to dispel it — we the little people have been raising money for her debt and Obama and his minions have done nothing so far. We should be forceful in negating their press and Clinton’s own people come out and release the info about what she did for Obama through her donors and what he did NOT do for her.
pm317 — Obama can only go to the victimization well just so often before people tune him out, which is what appears to be happening now. Last month Obama was moaning that Republicans would not vote for him because of his color. Now he can’t raise money because Hillary is Greedy. Give us a break. Nobody begged Obama to run. He could have stayed the the Senate for a complete term but after just 143 Days he decided that God wanted him to save this country. God probably made a boneheaded mistake when he was asked to decide whether this was the right time for Obama to run for President - he pressed the wrong button.
I gave to Hillary and I even bought three of the debt retirement TShirts. Mostly, my money this year is going local, which is where I’ve got the most control or hope of control. I donated twice to Al Franken’s Minnesota campaign against Norm Coleman. I’ve donated to this site and several others, just to keep the lights on and because I, like Larry Johnson, need a place to vent. I’ve even donated to the Black Agenda Report - because Glen Ford, who writes that site, is madder than anyone about the falseness that is Obama.
I’m in the mood for muckraking, and the more, the better.
Good for you! I like the Black Agenda Report, too.
Worthy site.
mr. natural, i love your writing style. seriously. it stands out, even here among some xlnt writers.
like i was once asked, “are you … y’ know, like …somebody (famous/important/etc)?”
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mr. natural was also one of my favorite “cartoon” characters if you will, during my berkeley ’60’s. do y’all remember this R. Crumb character?
Cnn special tonite Anderson 360
The Clinton. Never quit. Also mentioned the Puma’s and how it could affect the vote…
A must see
I caught the beginning, which was very positive.
Hopefully it continued that way.
There saying Hillary Clinton’s numbers are better than Obama’s across the board too today.
It could be on again later tonite. Everyone is Puma must listen to this special. Very good couple of hours.
This is going to be the most expensive campaign season in history. The airwaves will be flooded with meaningless sales pitches. The amounts spent will dwarf anything we’ve seen before.
So much for the new politics. Whoever buys the most airtime wins. I get sick thinking about it.
Obama is a house of cards. Now he is trying to “act” like Reagan. Obama is a FRAUD.
Obama will tell us he is Bill Clinton if that will get him money. I have seen the Obama act — its all about him and and his moods — he could care less about the rest of us.
You know you’re right bambi is moody.
>>> Now he is trying to “act” like Reagan
What? Drooling and shitting in his pants?
Thought maybe he would lay a wreath at Bitburg.
Will Bowers was on FOX with some very good news:
httpCOLON//wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=S3Cv8CVjQTc
Just as i suspected all along, the Republicans have been stuffing Obama’s coffers to stop Hillary, but now that he pretty much has the nomination sealed up, they can start giving their money to McCain. It’s a very smart strategy by the GOP.
Well, if that is true, I owe them my thanks.
I hope you don’t mean you’re glad that the repugs gave money to barky to keep Hillary from getting the nomination.
Of course I didn’t mean that, LOL. I don’t think Barry got a thin dime from Republicans myself. They need the money in their coffers, this election was to be a Democratic win hands down. They know they need every dollar for their own candidates.
BOs funds are down because he’s not the “new thing” anymore, and because of his own foot-in-mouth disease.
This has been my feeling all along. Despite having a huge disadvantage this cycle the GOP completely psyched out the Dems.
The nerve of that guy. Does he ever take responsibility for anything?
WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER?
McCain ‘08 (no matter who the dem VP is)
Or Hillary (if the dems wise up and realize she should be the nominee)
oops WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!
RJ — you just don’t understand how tired Obama is. He gave himself to us and now we are not sufficiently grateful and the poor man needs his rest. tsk tsk. All this attention is turning his hair gray or is he dying it to appear a bit more experienced? No matter– the poor man isn’t even left alone to eat his waffles Gosh guys, even Messiah’s suffer from fatigue.
Another interesting note on the Newsweek poll:
They have a breakdown of Hillary supporters in the link
17% for McCain
13% for “other”
Lets do the math and remember how relatively few votes made a difference in ‘00 and ‘04.
The data is here:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145556
Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.
Obama will try to take credit for the PUMA JUST SAY NO DEAL group of web sites pay down of Hillary’s debt while insinuating that helping her with debt has hurt him with his collections.
Come on Barrack Obama fans…you can pony up $5, he doesn’t care how poor you are, you can give him $5.
That’s an hour’s pay for troll work on NQ.
imustprotest - I bet the Palestinian trolls get far less. I resent Obama shipping his troll jobs overseas. Americans can be trolls too.
Perhaps they can start a union: UTWA United Troll Workers of America
they want to be paid in Euros, like Giselle, now that the Dollar has tanked…
Troll Workers of America Together
lol TWAT! How about Troll Workers Internet Team - TWIT
MEchelle doesn’t even know she’s getting paid less than the Palestinians. All the women are.
Obama never take his responsibilities on anything, but soon or later, he will be FORCED to do so.
He’s a snake but we are his mongoose.
Ha! and he’s the one supposedly from Hawaii….hang loose mongoose!
PUMAS will go RIKKI TIKKI TAVI on his sorry axx
There is absolutely no doubt that when O! loses the GE, it’s going to be all Hillary’s fault. He, his rabid fans and corporate press will all make sure it goes down in history that way. As time goes on he disgusts me more than I can fathom.
Haven’t been keeping up here, so maybe this has been posted, but there is no reason to think O! will be any better than McC. McC won’t have to bomb Iran because Jr will see to that before he leaves office. IF he leaves…
Bush’s Third Term
during A Coopers show tonight I caught only part of it but he was dissing Bill C and saying Hillary has higher approval ratings than Bill and was going on and on about Bill’s legacy and shit! I had to turn the lying BS OFF!
The MEDIA is sooooooooooo damn jealous that they can’t totally RUIN the Clinton’s in the public EYE.
SOOOOO JEALOUS & SPITEFUL
I’m waiting for Larry King’s ufo rerun (unless it’s not rerunning)
I might be entertained with some BETTER Science Fiction than what I’ve been getting on ALL the news outlets lately!
OMG even GReenville/Spartanburg tv channel tonight was advertising the new ipod/phone thing from Apple and while showing it they showed how it works with addresses etc and right in the front on the list was the DNC with HOWARD Dean’s PICTURE on it!!!
I was like, HUH???? I also saw 2 more Obama bumper stickers today. They’re growing. I don’t like it. OHH and a RON PAUL sticker! He’s very popular around here, I guess? LOL
Bill Clinton skipped the Unity, NH event. He went to Nelson Mandela’s birthday event in London’s Hyde Park instead. The next day, the Telegraph reported he said Obama could “kiss my ass.” Then he and Obama had a 20 minute phone conversation. The way Obama’s sycophantic lapdogs in the press are trashing Bill, it sounds like he told Obama to kiss his ass on the phone, too. Good for President Bill Clinton.
Ya think???? HAHhahaha! I get a KICK just considering it! GO BILL!
We didn’t want Obama to start crumbling this soon! Ah, well. Celebratory music!. (Find the Helms Deep version, a good ‘un).
“Obama took the stage and forgot, just one of those Freudian slips, to ask for money for Hillary–until he left the stage and the press reminded he had not done what he had come to do.”
I had read somewhere else that it was one of Obama’s people who stopped him and reminded him that he hadn’t done what he was there for - To seek funds from supporters to pay off Hill’s debt.
If it was in fact a media person and NOT an Obama person who reminded him, this makes a huge difference. For me anyway. You know he was surrounded by his own campaign people there and if not one of them reminded him to do the deed, and it was in fact a reporter who had to tell him, well, imo that speaks volumes about this guy, and the people surrounding him..
Amen. That really does say it all.
Well if it was the press I doubt it was MSMBC.
I read that after Obama left the stage reporters rushed his aides to ask why he hadn’t made the fundraising pitch.
Hey Teak!
I posted a couple of new videos on my blog I think you will enjoy. take a peak at them when you get a minute.
Nothing like some perspective.
RedDragon62;
Trade you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M&feature=related
Sorry I don’t have a google account so I can’t post to your site.
So tell me, if Senator Obama sprouts a boil on his arrogant behind, will that be Hillary’s fault, too?
This man is a pathetic excuse for a candidate. Nothing but whining and placing blame everywhere else but squarely on his own shoulders, and on Axelrod’s shoulders, where it clearly belongs.
Could his arrogance, lack of empathy or care about anyone besides himself, the fact that he has reneged on all his campaign promises, rubbed Hillary’s nose in the dirt at every opportunity — during and after the primary, and calling her husband a racist have anything to do with his money woes?
Perhaps the meme is true after all that there was a lot of foreign money and Republican money propping up his candidacy to begin with — in order to get rid of the stronger and better, more qualified candidate — Senator Clinton.
Call your Congressperson and say “We’ve Changed Our Minds!”
It’s a long way to Denver…
yes we still have time, make that call!
This clown didn’t care one bit that he forgot why he was there. It is all about him! Always has been, always will be! And yes, it was a member of the media that reminded him why HE WAS THERE!
Obama can blame everyone under the sun but if he can’t raise the money he’s done.
I sense a slight shift in the media’s attitude. I think that Obama’s rapid abandonment of so many core enlightened positions confused them. In one week he essentially has robbed them of their story line that he is a new kind of politician.
It is slowly sinking into their thick skulls that they need to have a new story line.
My guess is that Senator Obama is not going to be happy with what they come up with.
Hillary supporters shouldn’t give him a penny.
This guy totally vilified her.
Today I was talking to a disenchanted Obama supporter who said he wouldn’t vote for Clinton because her health plan included a mandate.
I tried to explain that this was the only way to execute an effective plan. But he had been brainwashed, and typical of Obama supporters, had no inclination toward opening his mind.
They don’t like Obama, but have been brainwashed that Hillary is the Queen of Evil.
I blame Obama and Axelrod for brainwashing so many young people and possibly setting their critical thinking skills down several grade levels.
Well, what the hell does he think Universal Health Care is? Free balloons for the kids?
Actually his plan is planning to enforce the mandate that he had Axelrod say Hillary would call for.
Obama wants to make insurance mandatory.
Yeah. The guy in charge of BO’s health care plan is the same guy (his name escapes me now) who headed the campaign and pushed the Harry and Louise ads against HRC’s health care initiative in the 1990s. This explains why such an ad was revived in the primary campaign. Shame on you, Obama!
Uh, no offense, but I find it strikingly amusing that an entire thread is devoted to Obama’s supposed fundraising problems when Hillary had to LOAN HERSELF MILLIONS.
(shrugging shoulders…just another one of them double standardzezess)
BTW, I also find it amusing that you people sincerely believe all Obama supporters are either impoverished blacks or rich, white liberals. I’m a social service provider making less than $40,000 a year and am the first from my family to graduate from college AND grad school. My mother works in a factory and my father drives a truck. The sign in their yard reads, “Bitter Hillbillies for Obama.”
Well, let me be the first to say thanks to you and your parents for giving us a candidate who threw core democratic principles under the bus.
Now I know what kind of people support Obama: the ones with no compunctions about trashing the Constitution.
Uh, we don’t care.
Yeah, get over it.
Only a Hilllary-hater could be a social service provider and be an Obamabot.
If it weren’t for these diehard Clinton-haters, Obama would be a nobody.
These are the people who will never get the bj in the Oval Office out of their cotton-picking, puritanical, Hillbilly minds.
Too bad they don’t realize that Obama looks his nose down on bitter Hillbillys. And he’s serious about that.
Obama has nothing but disdian for working class people and that would include black working class people.
Open your eyes and realize that without an over zealous gossip mongering press, Clinton’s sex life would have been like all the presidents before him: Bill and Hillary’s personal business.
I wish this same press corp cared enough to investigate Obama’s Birth Certificate.
Silly of me…. It’s only the Clintons people love to hate on.
good for you and for them, why do you come here? we are enjoying ourselves you hgo donate to Uhhbama and do your own happy dance idf you like, more power to ya!!
:0)
now back to happy happy joy joy for HILLARY
HILLARY WILL BE POTUS
back to happy dance..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWXNHAvG6E
obamazombies cant get enuff dough together, talk to some of your friends I guess, he seems to be having some trouble lately..
Did they buy that sign or make it themselves. You’re the first troll in this thread. What’s the matter with BO’s fundraising. Can’t get enought trolls funded. By the way, your STORY S U C K E D.
“My mother works in a factory and my father drives a truck.”
Well, it sounds as if you maybe should have given you dear old ma and pa your donation instead of Backtrack Obama.
(snicker)
And you’re probably shouldn’t be getting that because you’re on the internet day and night. Are you another loafer getting taxpayer money?
And BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow.
How many times do I have to tell you about changing your name. Hillary is supporting Obama for political reasons…..
Bill said “KISS MY ASS”
Can you not find any FRIENDS on the Obama blogs?
Stop the hate!
Not the hate card again.
I don’t talk to anyone who calls me “you people”.
Hillary isn’t in the GE, remember? If she were, she’d have 40 million waiting. She had more money for the GE than Obama did.
I see nothing wrong at all about her lending her campaign 11 million. She and Bill have accumulated wealth, so why not spend some on her own behalf?
The point is that Obama’s money making was one of the factors that persuaded the SDs to go with him. Well, the bar is high now. His campaign bragged about how much they would raise. They are far short of the mark.
He’s been reported as saying he was NOT interested in wooing Hillary’s people, and reports from her fundraisers made it clear he meant it. They were “underwhelmed,” to put it mildly. He had nothing to offer them whatsoever and most came away feeling set aside. Now, his fundraising numbers are down from expectations, and he needs them. As one fundraiser put it, “We’re back, and this time it’s personal.”
The meme from his campaign, which is all over the Obama blogs, is a tone of punishment and disunity. The bashing of Hillary continues. The tradition of working together to help her retire her debt is in the trashcan. And those who do not SUCCUMB to Obama’s Democratic Party and start backing his crap like a cheerleader are told to “Get Over It.”
Once again, our warnings were not heeded.
The result is that the DNC is in dismal shape. Nobody from Hillary’s camp is sending money. See, the people who send money are the involved ones. We ARE the ardent supporters Obama has offended. So the problem is much deeper than Obama’s mere 30 million in June. Who will pay for the convention?
Obamabots don’t think past their adoration for him. They took over the party. In my opinion, they also took on the responsibility to fund the party.
This situation is similar to raising kids. You want decisionmaking power? You pay the bills.
An obvious point that I had never considered and haven’t seen made before. He wanted to all donations to be funneled through his campaign. Okay, fine. Now he’s got it.
we are kicking his skinny axx in donations to HILL??
BOOYAH HILLRAISERS!!!!!
YOU ROCK!!!!!!
LETS KICK SOME OBAMAZOMBIE AXX!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWXNHAvG6E
DONT STOP ME NOW
SHAUN OF THE DEAD-QUEEN!!!
BOOYAH!!!!!!!!
HILLYEAH!!!!
Remember those Saturday night Drive-In movies where the nerds get one up on the jocks?
That’s the feeling I’m getting from reading this thread. The jock (BHO) is having his come-uppance.
Oh no you didn’t…just call us nerds!?
UFO’s near Crawford!
Yep
Larry King - you’re the man! lol
(on now)
OMG I knew GW was an alien!
and during the commercial
advertisement for exclusive interview Sunday by Fareed Z with Barack O
I’m just so excited
Yeah, America really needs and wants to see one Arab praising a fellow Muslim. At least this new CNN guy doesn’t say he’s anti-American - even though he’s pumping sales on his new book about the “post-American economy.”
Long time rumors Time Warner, which owns CNN and AOL is strongly Arab owned. But investigators say the money trail is complicated and too hard to prove- except for one Saudi Prince who acknowledged his 5% ownership - and complains he looses money on his investment.
yes they will ahev a lovely chat on globalization no doubt
Fareeds new book is called the Post American World
the world is so over us already.
the Soros way
we say no thanks
HILLARY OR BIG MAC!!
It’s probably just Dubya playing with his remote control airplanes.
Pahahaha! hey that’s FUnnnnnnnnnnY!
You are referring to jock Itch
harp — I swear I was going to say that — lololol
LOL, dream on bot….
PUMAS ROOL AND OBOTS DROOL
http://washingtonindependent.com/view/mccains-arizona-woes
His failure to help her reduce her debt was just another Obama stupid move. Her supporters can’t reduce it if they maxed out, but they could give to him. Now, what’s the motive?
He should have taken the campaign finance money. Oh well, too bad, so sad.
BO is such a friggin’ ass! That video clip made me donate again to Hillary.
The man is brilliant. Why didn`t someone think of this before. His grasp of International affairs astounds me.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said in interview excerpts released Friday that Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden should be executed, if he is ever captured alive.
The Illinois Senator told CNN that the accused mastermind of the September 11 attacks in 2001 should face the full weight of US and global justice.
“I am not a cheerleader for the death penalty,” Obama said.
“I think it has to be reserved for only the most heinous crimes, but I certainly think plotting and engineering the death of 3,000 Americans justifies such an approach.”
“I think this is a big hypothetical, though — let’s catch him first,” he said.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_wants_Bin_Laden_executed_07112008.html
That is great tell the Muslim world you going to kill him just give them more tape to get more members he should not of said that. (we know what we do if we caught him) He is such a Jackass
But he’s a flip-flopper. He’ll say something different tomorrow.
He said he fully supported the SCOTUS decision giving combatants habeus corpus right to a trial in our system, how is he planning to execute him now?
what a moron, he isnt even a maroon anymore, this is the Bring It On moment, the Bushesque flair for stupidity just keeps comin……..
He already did.
6/18/08:
“Obama said that he would deal with him, “in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he’s engaged in and not to make him into a martyr.” Presumably that would rule out the death penalty.”
Well, it had to happen …Osama bin laden is under the bus!
*snicker*
And Grandma sits agitated in between Jesse and Osama…..clutching her purse tighter as she puts on a burka.
ROTFALMAO!!!!!
He is really going out on a limb with that statement.
LOL
Larry Johnson,
How do you feel about UFO’s?
ps
Larry they are now blaming the CIA for covering up UFOS.
You guys wouldn’t do that would you?
hehee justtttttttt joking but they really did just blame you guys. HA!
I was against them before the anal probe in outer space. After that, I became a believer.
Ouch!!
yep I had to ask didn’t I
(I smell something fauxfishy)
He just outed Kartman!
It’s with a capital C,
You ###damned Asshole!
PUMA!
Apologies, Mr. Murder:
I meant no offense to you.
I try hard to be a nice guy.
But it’s hard.
We respect your authoritah!!!
Eric NASCARtman?
He is a piece of work isn’t he? He can blame her all her wants. The truth is .. we don’t want him. He is selected.. he is a product of the DNC. Hillary has always been the real deal. She has done everything asked of her.. and he is still a loser.
Its 3am -I think its time for Hillary to rise!
reply to HARP I believe this is the same obama who just insisted that captured terrorists must be removed from military courts and given all the legal privileges of American citizens.
It’s some relief to know that bozo doesn’t remember what he says from day to day- and doesn’t really care - since it’s all just hot air. NO brain could possibly process the ongoing onslaught of contradictions. Like an overwelmed computer it would just burn out any normal mind.
Not his: because all his “words” to others always carry this silent internal self-message: “Nothing I say means anything to me. I will neither recall I said this nor make any attempt to implement it in action”
Probably Hillary`s fault that he said it.
We should have all expected this outcome when the DNC moved the convention date to coincide with the anniversary of the MLK Dream speech, in august, instead of July when they usually have it. The only question is...did they pick the date after they had picked the black candidate, or did they pick the date, and then go out to find a black candidate to stick on the podium? You tell me, but the conincidence is just a little too much, and it certainly belies the efforts they have gone to to insure hie success so far.I say, "Hooray for Andrea Merkel!"
They picked Obama at the 2004 Convention. Let him have the speech there. Its been in the works for a while. Ironically, had they kept the July date he might have been the nominee. Now…as always its about the dough, who has it, who can bring it in.
Its Hillary Time.
If there’s any truth to the Whitey Tape rumors, then Michelle Obama made her angry remarks about Rwanda and Bill Clinton a week before that convention. The Democratic party bosses knew what they were getting into when they brought the Obamas on board. This was like a mean high school prank like the movie Carrie. I want to see flames and blood.
Rwanda = Kenya
Bloodshed begets bloodshed.
If he had ANY balls, he’d make his speech from the balcony of the Lorraine Motel.
I’m certain that the King family money-grubbers would rent it to him for a pittance.
So … an elderly and very devout priest dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there he sees a long line of souls moving slowly toward the Pearly Gates. He walks to the front of the line and says to St. Peter “What is this line?” St. Peter tells him it’s the line to get into heaven, and that he must go to the end and wait his turn with the other souls. “But surely, St. Peter, I’ve devoted my life to God and deserve to get through the gates before many of these ordinary humans.” But St. Peter simply says “No exceptions” and turns away.
So the priest walks for hours to get to the end of the line, then endures several days of creeping along in the slowly moving line. Finally, he’s back within sight of the Pearly Gates and wiping the sweat off his brow, when suddenly a limosine appears, headed in the direction of the Pearly Gates. As it passes him, he looks inside and sees … Barack Obama! The priest watches closely as the limosine drives all the way up to the gates, stops briefly by St. Peter, then enters the Gates.
The priest is incensed; he asks the person behind him to save his place and he hikes the 1/4 mile or so to the front of the line and strides right up to St. Peter and says: “St. Peter, this cannot be right. You have sent me, a man of the cloth, to wait in line for several days, but you let Barack Obama go right through the gates? How can this be fair?”
St. Peter turns to him and says: “No no, my good man, that wasn’t Barack Obama. That was God. He just THINKS he’s Barack Obama.”
lol*
oh chit something just hit me (I hope I’m wrong) but if it truly IS (for bho) all about the MONEY and who can bring it……………
sigh
David Gergen could be right. Hillary could be his Cash Goddess.
What the HELL r we gonna do??? And I’m mostly asking uber HILL fans like me that realize even 4 yrs from now is OLD for most of US……. she might want to get in there NOW.
just thinking
if it’s about money and now Will Bower and us PUMAS have been seen to be CASH happy (or so he would think)
God I hope I’m wrong
I hope Gergen is wrong
even if that happens, no worries by me, he will step down as nominee after the GOP lets him have it , if he is this careless with what we know, imagine what we dont..I think it is good Hill is in a strong position either way, we have showed her we have her back and the DNC can bite me!!!!!
Not sure when Gergen said this but Hillary’s PUMA supporter are canny enough to give only to her debt, and not the Obama or the DNC. Gergen is on crack if he can’t see that point.
The only bad thing is if the PUMA money is rich enough to put her in the black with a surplus. The DNC is licking its lips just as it did when they thought Obama was the cash cow. Only Hillary’s surplus is a big dilemma, for her as well as the DNC. Its leverage of course. She should demand a vote and she will win it.
I think the DNC will let the dirt on OBAMA come shining through before the convention to make it convenient under the bus toss. Killing two birds with one stone - or throw. The democrats will get the money and Hillary will get the presidency.
Its a brilliant plan - work with it DNC.
Loveeeeee It~~~!!
When my girl friend Oprah gives the maximum, you’ll see we are all about unity.
Stop the hate.
?
Hmm, is it true that Donna and Oprah are of the lesbian persuasion? Not with each other, but…
So Stedman Graham’s sex life has entered interesting times? It’s probably news to him.
Brazile may or may not have a main squeeze, at least nothing listed on NNDB. Perhaps she became a lesbian so she could love herself to the exclusion of all others.
Donna, I believe, is out. She’s a lesbian.
Yes, that was the point
Here’s my $$$ contribution to poor lil’ Obama … the redesign of our currency in 2009:
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_penny_button-145308767898507893
… and here’s the “Obama on Crack” line of apparel:
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_red_green_gold_shirt-235889968949878729
I have donated the maximum allowed for the primary and, overcoming my shyness in this matters, have asked some friends and relatives to contribute to the Hillary campaign. I never planned, nor intend to donate to the Obama campaign, so blaming anything on Hillary is useless on his part.
I plan to donate for the general if Hillary is the nominee. I will not vote for a ticket with Hillary as VP. She is and will be blamed for Obama’s mistakes, which are many already.
I pray she does not take him as her VP either, he will undermine her presidency. She will spend her time putting political fires down caused by his incompetence.
Thank you Senator Clinton for voting against FISA.
We’re very proud of your courage and integrity.
A PUMA
>>> She will spend her time putting political fires down caused by his incompetence.
Not to mention catching flack for the HIDEOUS colors that
Winnie Mandela SasquatchMichelle would use to redecorate the VP Residence at the Naval Observatory…The construct of the Democratic Party has taken a dramatic turn in history………..unlike anything we have ever seen before………………
However,
We have yet to determine if it is for the worse or for the better………………………………
If the PUMA’s and others can bring Hillary back in the black and she really still wants to be President…
Then, they must bring her campaign off of suspension status, get her delegates in line and adopt a creed of
Party Unity My Ass……….Translated
Country before Party…………..
Hillary before the corrupt party leaders and Obama…
But, this has to be done very quickly!~
HILLARY HAS TO WANT THIS……
SHE HAS TO BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THIS CORRUPTION AND HAVE A FLOOR FIGHT AND PUMA MUST BE READY TO TAKE ON THE SUPERDELEGATES AND REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DECIDING THIS ELECTION.
NANCY PELOSI HAS TO GO!
DEAN HAS TO GO!
REID HAS TO GO!
OBAMA HAS TO BE CHALLENGED ON THE CONVENTION FLOOR
THE SUPERDELEGATES HAVE TO BE GRABBED AND TOLD THAT THEIR ELECTABILITY IS HELD IN THE BALANCE AND PUMA HOLDS THEIR POLITICAL FATE IN THEIR HANDS!
JUST SAY NO DEAL HOLDS THE SUPER DELEGATES ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY MUST SAY NO TO PELOSI, DEAN, REID AND OBAMA NOW!
CAN ANYONE HEAR ME?
BUT…….NONE OF THIS IS ANY GOOD IF HILLARY WANTS TO BE VEEP.
ALL HE HAS TO DO IS ASK HER TO BE HIS VEEP AND IT IS ALL OVER…………………….
SOMEONE FROM THIS COALITION NEEDS TO SEE WHERE SHE IS.
I agree with you judd
ROBERT WEXLER, NANCY PELOSI AND JOHN KERRY ARE UP FOR REELECTION THIS YEAR… THE HEAVE HO!
put in Ed O Reilly, no more Kerry universal healthcare is a non starter in the Senate, just say NO MASS!!
http://www.edoreilly.com
is that all? When is Richardson due to be voted OUT? How about Leahy? Dodd? EVEN BLOODY FEINGOLD!!!!
HE KNOWS BETTER THEN THAT!
The RNC doesn’t want to run a true winner against Kerry, he’s a walking GOP donation, armed with his verbosity.
He’s where they want him, Skull and Bones, and all that.
Oh, I think Hillary wants it.
What is really amazing is that millions of people have read her intentions without her having to put it in writing or give a speech. We withheld votes and money and gave only to her. We threaten to vote for McCain. We are an army intune with the CIC.
Just think what will happen when the whole nation can connect psychically like that. And the nation wants Hillary. Even Republicans would vote for her.
I give up. Obama is an asshole. A complete and total asshole.
(snicker)
What was that? (moves curtain)…yes I just saw pigs flying by!
JUDD - I hear you! .. lol
Today I was wondering if she was thinking about it since the donations we gave for her debt. She knows we are serious. She knows we are still behind her.
This is bigger than a general election. This is about taking back our voices. Taking back our Party and fighting corruption.
yea I don’t THINK this has EVER happened before
she should be glowing (I hope)
we do admire her (that’s never going away) she just better put on her BEST CONVINCING SUIT before she tries to make us believe she would be BETTER as VP and NOT as CIC (EVER)
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tekicatt@aol.com,
rwhitten@whittenburragelaw.com,
mzlivability@yahoo.com,
jen@defazioforcongress.org,
info@jasonaltmire.com,
ccampbell215@msn.com,
james_brown@casey.senate.gov, sara_mabry@casey.senate.gov,
chafinlawfirm@charter.net,
pmurphy@murphy06.com,
celita_a_de_r@hotmail.com,
gcobbhun@BellSouth.net,
waringsh@bellsouth.net,
carol@fowlercommunications.com,
jackbillion@sio.midco.net
drey_samuelson@johnson.senate.gov, sonja_dean@johnson.senate.gov,
mnemec@sullybuttes.net,
stroschein@nrctv.com,
rep.loisdeberry@legislature.state.tn.us,
BrooksViceChair@aol.com,
ydavis2455@aol.com,
olga@pgog.net,
al@aledwards.com,
chris@chetedwards.com,
denise_johnson@ibew.org,
bjenellhamlett@mail.house.gov,
moses.mercado@ogilvygr.com,
senfronia.thompson@publicans.com,
wholland@utdemocrats.org,
crbenjamin1019@yahoo.com,
jbevans@coatchworksfarm.com,
icarleton@vtdemocrats.org,
kevin_mcdonald@leahy.senate.gov,
chuckr@gmavt.net,
patnotter@gmail.com,
cewaliser@hotmail.com,
wisgov@gov.state.wi.us,
mary_irvine@feingold.senate.gov, will_sebern@feingold.senate.gov,
steve@kagen4congress.com,
ellisshir@sbcglobal.net,
raejason@yahoo.com,
lissa7453@yahoo.com,
wineke10@charter.net,
beth_provenzano@rockefeller.senate.gov, kerry_ates@rockefeller.senate.gov,
pjorgensen@jorgensenassociates.com,
jmillin@cheyenneeyeclinic.com,
constance@cborde.com,
liv.gibbons@gmail.com,
boleary1@bloomberg.net
the jbevans email came back undeliverable (here’s my email I just sent) first time to ALL of them at once!
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Subject: Smelled the coffee yet?
Please, reconsider HILLARY!!!!!
Now that you’ve had AMPLE time to VET this fraud like the REST of us ONLINE have…………. you MUST see. You are throwing away the election on BHO. Weak, weak, weak, maybe win 10 states?
And I’m being generous.
Ok you’ve already forced my 84yr old MOM and I to switch to “unaffiliated”
you have a chance to redeem yourselves in the public eye
VOTE FOR HILLARY IN DENVER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE
Sincerely,
Dawn *&^&^% (52)
*&%$^, NC
Disable Mother and Veteran
“some college”
NOT BITTER
NO GUNS
BUT DEADLY SERIOUS
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/65/petition-for-howard-dean-to-resign-as-dnc-chair
It’s funny that the media is finally noticing Puma et. al.
Why? Because we’re hitting the DNC and Obama where it hurts. In the pocket.
Some politicians may not respond to pleas from voters to do the right thing. They do respond to lack of funding.
Obama hasn’t kept his word on key liberal and progressive issues. I am not surprised he’s not keeping his word about helping retire Hillary’s debt.
We will remember in November.
SOMETHING ABOUT A REVOLUTION
my new favorite video!
gnite no quarter!
Peace!
Remember, remember the Fourth of November
The DNC treason and plot
I see no reason, why the DNC treason
Should ever be forgot
Oooh that’s good.
This should be on a T-shirt. Bueller? Anyone?
I would wear that T shirt~!
For PUMA and JUST SAY NO DEAL and all the other groups to have credibility, we simply have to remain organized even after the convention.
I am confident. I like the thinking of Women Count Too. They have set up a women’s agenda that isn’t focused on candidates. Finally, someone is thinking about the solutions and issues! I think PUMA could play a role other than supporting Hillary later, too. We’ll see how it evolves.
Definitely, the disaffected Democrats will be taken seriously when they hand McCain a win in the Fall. Then, the pundits will scramble to write their obits for the Democratic Party.
And out of the ashes we can save the best and trash the rest.
PUMA should play the role of creating a new political party that will overshadow the far left idiots…one that represents the values of moderate working amer