Plouffe the Magic Dragon
By Pat Racimora on July 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM in David Plouffe, Obama, Obamatopia
You’ve got to hand it to David Plouffe (pronounced Pluff), even though he rarely makes headlines, hates to have his photo taken, and prefers to attend to the mechanics of the Obama campaign out of sight. As its manager, Plouffe planned a ground game like no other before him. How else could an unknown, inexperienced candidate, even one who could deliver a good speech (albeit with the aid of a teleprompter), zoom right to the top and overwhelm the well-known and experienced frontrunner? And, Plouffe has the kind of resume his candidate does not, among them the Director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
It was Plouffe who hit on the plan to go after states in the primary that Democrats will not win in November. But, they had delegates that could be racked up, and caucus states could be invaded by armies of Obama activists who persuaded enough locals to get on the bandwagon. Everyone knows the results, even though many of us are left scratching their heads. Plouff is a genius. He pulled off an act that seems stranger than any fiction I have read.
BUT, will the same plan work for the general election in November? Many don’t think so. Republicans usually circle their wagons and vote for their man no matter what. Democrats are a less dependable lot, and this race is especially hampered by large numbers voters who do not trust Obama or are upset with the DNC for perceived biases and undemocratic tactics that are pushing Hillary Clinton out. Had Obama himself spoken out about media partiality and sexism, his prospects might look better now.
So, what does Karl Rove, the Republican counterpart of David Plouff, think? Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Rove suggests that the same tactics implemented by the Obama team in the primary will fail come November. “Democrats don’t have the same large volunteer pool the GOP does with its Federated GOP Women, College and Young Republicans, and local party committees,” Rove writes. “In the primaries, Mr. Obama instead moved hordes of volunteers from state to state…The volunteers adequate for primaries held over five months will simply not be enough to compete in 51 separate elections (all 50 states plus the District of Columbia) all on one day.” (Many of the younger ones will be studying for exams around that time.)
However, Rove believes that the biggest problem has to do with Obama’s inconsistencies. “In 2000, Mr. Bush won the general election on the same themes and positions as in the primaries… There was no repudiation of past positions, no chameleon-like shifts in positions.” Obama is following the Nixon program where one caters to the party base and then moves towards the center. Obama’s base at the left is already beginning to wonder who he is as he flops around like a freshly caught bass on the pier. Few appear to be satisfied in the process. His changes in positions, coupled with inexperience and a raft of poor judgments, are cause for pause for all but his most staunch followers.
Rove adds that the campaign seems to simply assume that voters will not notice the many reversals in Obama’s positions. Aside from the implication that voters are stupid, counting on them to be uninformed and unaware is likely wishful thinking this time around.
Can David Plouffe still pull Obama out? Rove isn’t so sure. “Mr. Obama may be risking his reputation for truthfulness. A candidate’s credibility, once lost, is very hard to restore, regardless of how fine an organization he has built.” Read more here.
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Maybe they are counting on favorable Obama coverage from the media, and less than favorable for McCain to make the difference on election day.
even the more favorable Obama coverage and anti-Hillary from the media did not help him to win the primary. DNC and SD did it for him.
L.A. Times is reporting that BO is too threatened by Bill to pick Hillary as VP.
So confident, so secure, such a man Barry is.
I pray he does not pick Hillary. He might not have a choice because of the PUMAs. Then the question is will PUMAs vote for Obama with Hillary as VP? I know I won’t.
I pray he doesn’t pick HRC too. Why should she allow herself to be dragged down in Obama’s failure.
I must say , as much as I dislike this guy and will never vote for him, but if Hillary is on the ticket it would be hard for me not to consider voting. That’s how much I want Hillary in the WH.
Me neither. I don’t want him. I don’t care who is VP. If she runs with him and he loses, she will also be tainted and go down. The Dems will no doubt blame the loss on her.
They, of course, will do that anyway, if lots of Hillary Dems vote against him, but he will then be losing by himself and she will be in a stronger position if she decides to run again.
Besides which, i don’t want her to humiliate herself by being his VP. I hope everyone I admire says no to him. I hope Webb starts a trend.
Obama’s afraid of Bill because Obama knows the ‘fairy tale’ is true. The only happy ending would be that Hillary is voted up at the convention.
Besides how long can Obama stay in the pressure cooker before he needs some relief and falls back on bad behaviour habits? I see the signs..
LOL. Obama’s afraid of Bill, huh? You mean, after Bill fumbled his way through the primary making one mistake after another while Obama took an insurmountable delegate lead over the famous Democratic political team of this generation? Yeah, sure. More like: Bill is a wild card whose behavior during the fall campaign (not to mention an actual Obama presidency) would be, to say the least, unpredictable (talk about being in the pressure cooker, needing some relief and falling back on bad behaviour habits. Ha.).
Further, if I recall correctly, Bill has made it clear that he will not submit to the level of financial disclosure that is obviously required of the spouses of presidential and vice-presidential candidates. Nobody knows jack-squat about who is donating to the Clinton Global Initiative now. If Obama were to nominate Hillary without Bill allowing a tremendous amount of financial vetting, they’d all be setting themselves up for disaster this fall as the attack machine gears itself up. Or do you think it’s okay to subject the Obamas to a Talmudic level of scrutiny of every single aspect of their lives — birth certificates, mortgage points, every religious leader they know, anyone whose house party they ever attended, etc — while blissfully ignoring basics like Cindy McCain’s tax returns and Bill Clinton’s donor list from the past few years?
Well, actually, yeah, that’s probably exactly what most of you think. That doesn’t make it reality, though. The reality is that, although many, many of us Obama supporters would love to see HRC on the ticket, for all kinds of reasons, including respect for her tremendous abilities and a belief that a “unified” ticket would make our party stronger in November, it is not likely to happen, and the primary reason is that Bill (whom I absolutely, fervently consider the greatest American president since FDR, hands down) is not going to open his foundation’s books, is not going to allow a precise accounting of what he has been doing the past eight years, who’s been paying him, who’s been donating to the foundation, etc. Ain’t gonna happen, and that will make it impossible for Obama to ask HRC to join his ticket, even if wants to.
You might want to investigate Obama’s backers, like the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Goolsbee,Skull and Bones and the Chicago Boys and how Obama has never won office in a contested election.
Most of us do not want Hillary as VP because Obama will blame her (and Bill) for his eventual fall. Obama can’t exist without his scapegoats.
Obama has yet to be vetted.
Where’s his birth records?
It’s your party now, sweetie. Your candidate has weakened what used to be my party and I no longer will have any part in this circus called the Democratic Party. Meaning I’d vote for a dead flea on a dead dog’s back before I’d vote for BO. I don’t care who runs on the ticket with him, I don’t care who endorses him (except to keep a list of whom not to vote for ever again), I will not vote for him.
And since BO so bitterly clings to HIS secrecy, well…
Ditto.
For me I hope Hillary does not join him in the ticket. She’s better off than being a Senator.
obama is also terrified of strong, white women. And he is intimidated by bill, especially after this little punk obama criticised the only democrat to be elected to two terms in the last 40 years.
obama is intimidated by most people and covers it up with arrogance and dismissal.
what a stooge obama is. just like the other two: dean and pelosi.
obambi is going down big time.
Mistakes?
Like calling obama’s anti Iraq war stance a fairy tale.
Or pointing out the fact that black candidates do well in states with a high AA population? something, BTW the print and broadcast media had been speculating.
WJC wasn’t HRC’s campaign manager and Obama’s insurmountable delegate lead wasn’t.
Who the hell Obambi is, I don’t even know this dude, and what I know is a description of a criminal who should be put in jail rather in the WH. And a con like him talkes about the most popular and successful president as if he is one his own ex-cons. Please don’t make me to hate Obama more than I do now by the these BS!
Well, kudos for at least acknowledging that Obama and Plouffe ran a great primary campaign. My God, you even seem to be implying that they won! Amazing. You should probably be banned from NQ, or at least called a bot for straying so far off the reservation (don’t forget – Obama didn’t win the primary — he stole it from Our Queen Hillary, Who Shall Rise Again, But We Aren’t a Cult), but thanks for the smart words.
I’m a little sanguine about arguing that Obama will lose in November because Karl Rove said so. Leaving aside the blindingly obvious fact that Karl Rove will say anything that benefits Republicans and hurts Democrats (duh), there’s also the small matter — if we are to think of him as a dispassionate political analyst now — of his having predicted a Republican victory in the November ‘06 off-year Congressional elections, just a week before the most overwhelming Democratic landslide since FDR came to power in 1932.
i don’t know how one can give kudos to stealing votes…
maybe robert mugabe can…
sad…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I agree America First!!
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Oh no you didn’t! You cannot invoke FDR, troll! You and your miserable excuse for a candidate are the antithesis of everything FDR stood for!
Obama is, however, of Karl Rove’s making so it shouldn’t surprise you that he is ready to throw him under the bus now that he’s (nearly) done with him.
Huh? Obama’s ready to throw Rove under the bus? What on Earth are you talking about? Rove has been doing his best to trash Obama since the primaries began, because he obviously, and correctly, has seen him as the greatest threat to electing another Republican.
As for FDR: I’ll invoke whomever the fuck I want. FDR stood for the same core progressive Democratic principles that every mainstream Democratic candidate ever since has stood for. The fact that you deranged cultists choose to pretend that Obama is not a mainstream Democrat but some Satanic imposter is a testament to the powers of the human imagination but not a reflection of any sort of recognizable reality.
Rove has uttered barely a word about the embarrassment known as Obama. He created him to kepp Clinton out, knowing full well he can destroy him with little to no effort.
An Obama is nothing like FDR, nothing like Hillary Clinton, nothing like Bill Clinton, and nothing like a mainstream Democrat.
As far as the deranged cultist comment, that’s just precious coming from someone who follows a man who can’t hold a position long enough for someone to report on it! You are the Kool-Aid drinker sfhillary, following the cult of an Arab American terrorist trying to pass himself off as the first Black Presidential candidate and a Democrat. He is nothing more than a corporate shill worshiping himself at the Church of Barry, and you are nothing more than his altar boy (and we all know what happens to altar boyz).
You do not speak for anyone here, and we would all appreciate it if you would leave. You have been invited to do so numerous times; I suggest you do so.
Obama is Arab now? Huh. You can *say* he is nothing like FDR or the Clintons or mainstream Democrats, but that doesn’t make it so. And it’s amusing to hear him described as a “corporate shill” when the other half of the NQ haters call him a radical Communist. He cannot conceivably be both, but it bothers none of you how completely you contradict each other. As long as the hate is flowing, everyone here is happy.
I know you want me to leave; nobody in a cult wants to hear any non-cult speech; it disturbs the flow of endorphins that derive from indoctrination. Too bad.
He is a “Blank Screen” yes he can be both!
There are no “true” communists. The radical idealism of true communists is that everyone shares the wealth equally.
Communism as practiced today, is a system whereby the minority (educated elitists with money and priviledge) make sure that the majority are equal in that they have nothing. The monied elite are corporatists shills, regardless of race or cultural origin.
You are mistaken my friend. He was asked on Fox news what advice he would give to Obama. I watched it and remember thinking that Rove’s advice was actually good advice. Then it was like, what the hell is Rove doing giving Obama good advice? The republicans wanted to run against Obama. He is the “most liberal senator of 2007″ who has taken on every republican talking point since he was crowned. Talk about easy flip-flop bulletin. And then when addressing his supporters over the kissing of Bush’d boots, he told them that they weren’t listening to him.
When he said he would “work accross the isle” that meant I will agree with republicans. We have heard all of his type of campaign retoric before, and we knew what he meant. That is why we oppose him. As president he will given in to republicans all the time to prove this “work accross the isle” and democrats in congress will follow as if he is the pied piper. Leading us all to another Bush term.
This explains Obama’s statement that the Repugs have had all the good ideas the past few decades — he meant “how to get elected” ideas, i.e., Nixon’s strategy of pandering to the party extremes in the primary and moving to the center in the GE. Couple that with BO’s Oscar winning speeches and the fact that this should to be the Dems year, they smelled victory. The BO camp forgot to factor in the difference between Repug and Dem voters! I guess Pluff in’t a genius after all!
Liar. He never said that. He said that both parties have had “new ideas,” and he is right.
Obama did say the Republicans were the party with the “transformational” ideas when he was pandering to Republicans during the Nevada primary. Obamabot trying to rewrite history again. You are one google search away from knowing you are a liar.
ha ha. truth hurt, doesn’t it. I remember distinctly these obama words: the repugs have the good ideas.
roflmao. can’t take it, can you stooge?
Oh yeah, I lied…well please do tell exactly what new ideas did he mention and lay praise on regarding either the Clinton or the Carter administrations? And the only “new and good” idea I have heard him talk about regarding Kennedy is that he gave his father an oppotunity to come to the U.S. for an education. ROFLMAO. Yeah, Kennedy wrote Senior a letter and said…”you’re invited”.
Obama’s secrets will find the light, it’s a matter of when.
Obama is ZERO!
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if actual lives weren’t in the balance this would be funny…
nytimes.com/reuters/washington/politics-usa-politics-obama-jerusalem.html
Baracktrack, what an ass…
there is just too much at stake to have a moron like baracktrack in power…
there are no do-overs in the presidency…
you just can’t hold another press conference to clarify the press conference a couple hours ago…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
You can use him as a metronome:
flip…flop
flip…flop
Faster? No problem:
flip-flop
flip-flop
Dance, Bambi, dance!
-=chuckle=-
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
OMG! I’m laughing so hard I’ve got tears! Thank you, I needed that!
His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain,
Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane.
Without his life-long friend, puff could not be brave,
So puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave. oh!
No one in my lifetime has been investigated more than the Clintons. They have both been turned inside out. Nothing was ever unearthed.
When the Clinton tax returns were presented for scrutiny this year, there was nothing but the fact that they have finally made money following their years of public service (and no one deserves it more).
I don’t believe another investigation of either of them would reveal anything.
There are things involving the Obamas that I am just waiting for some brave soul to finally uncover. I think Bambi should be arrested, and I hope something is in the pipeline as we speak. This man is a chronic liar.
Too bad we can’t find a LBJ type. Don’t you think an LBJ type would look really good with Barry, my black JFK?
If we put Kaye Baily Hutchison in a ten gallon hat, do you think we could get away with it?
Hey, TeaBagger, Kay Bailey is a REPUBLICAN.
But if that’s the type of politician you want with your (alleged) Democrat, fine by me. It’ll just PROVE that Barry’s just a Republican (like Dubya).
your black JFK? Oh yes, even MEchelle is styling her hair like Jackie.
too bad obambi is no JFK. And you’d better believe that line is going to come up in a debate.
obambi wishes he was jfk, he hopes for it, but he is not. he is a moron who scammed his way to the top.
Unfortunately, this is all too true. A government by the people, in which all rights and posers are vested in the people and government is ceded some of those powers to govern with the consent of the governed, requires a well educated electorate . An uniformed American electorate believes that government is the holder of all rights and powers and our individual rights are only obtained on lease from the government (as is common in civil law European systems).
The framers of the Constitution originally enfranchised only the landed gentry to participate in government with this thought in mind. As information was able to become more widely disseminated, it was recognized that the populace as a whole could participate in the electoral process followed by laws disenfranchising woman and minorities being stricken as unconstitutional.
However, education wealth alone do not make for an educated or more informed voter. A recent survey in Palo Alto, CA, which is an extremely affluent community of well educated residents, home of Stanford University and the financial epicenter of SIlicon Valley, demonstrated that as voters they identify themselves as liberal out of a herd mentality that they should be liberal.
To them, being liberal means attaching a Keep Tahoe Blue bumper sticker on the back of their over priced, oversized luxury SUV. LIberalism is worn as a fashion statement. Everything this class engages in is a fashion statement, down to which of the various ones of private schools they will send their own children to while lamenting the poor conditions of public education in the neighboring less well off communities.
Choose the wrong fashion, and one quickly becomes the social outcast. It is the perception that one brand is somehow always better than another brand, although each brand may be identical on their merits and the shunned brand even better.
In this sense, Obama has become today’s fashion to them, the Obama bumper sticker is worn as a fashion statement. He absolves them of their own guilt of being white and affluent while not really paying attention to his policies or the policies of any other candidate because they are just too damn busy with their own lives.
It is a fashion statement they too can relate to the economically deprived blacks and Hispanics living next door to them in crime ridden East Palo Alto without doing nothing more than placing a bumper sticker on their car. For them, Hillary is a nonissue. In this society, woman have made it, they too are in the high powered money class as lawyers, investment bankers and even corporate CEO’s. Clinton, and for the same reason McCain, can’t be a fashion statement because Clinton and McCain travel in the same social circles as they do.
Thus, only Obama can meet their sense of fashion. I’ve seen it firsthand, I live there.
“The Farm” is absolutely on target when it states that Obama supporters wear liberalism as a fashion statement.
This is why issues don’t matter to them. They don’t care if it really isn’t universal health care (they already have there’s) and don’t get alarmed at real sexism or the calling someone a racist who has devoted his life to racial equality.
Obama is just a fashion statement.
The real genius of Plouffe, Axelrod, and the rest of his handlers is that they understood who to market Obama like he was Odwalla juice or organic fruits or the latest must-drink bottled water.
>>> To them, being liberal means attaching a Keep Tahoe Blue bumper sticker on the back of their over priced, oversized luxury SUV. LIberalism is worn as a fashion statement.
The True Successors to the, “Some of My Best Friends are Negroes!” set. Strongly reminiscent of the Environmentalists of Convenience who premeate Florida politics.
(Nothing says Hypocrisy quite like spending 35 years as a Peabody Coal manager, then retiring to Florida to piss and moan about the demise of the Everglades…a place where you’d never be caught dead).
Well done Pat!
I am wondering if JJ’s going to get his wish…and the Dragon starts singing
“Chestnuts roasting on an open fire..”
BTW, Karl Rove is a criminal on borrowed time. It still doesn’t mean he is not able to offer an insight that has merit. He is not so full of himself to not know you win some and you loose some.
The issues that were front and center in 2006 were ending the Iraq war, rethug porkpipe politicos, impeachment and the economy /jobs. The Dem’s are running on empty promises.
Where do the Dem’s stand on those now and more to the point where was Waldo? Has he been sucked in to a cosmic blackhole?
Wonderful dragon, Pat! Love the cartoon! As for Plouffe and Obama, Rove is correct. Obama has shown himself to be a lying weasel and he’s on the record as such. You can’t weasel your way out of recorded facts. It doesn’t matter how crafty Plouffe and Axelrod may be, people eventually catch on.
You just keep cranking out these amazing cartoons.
Plouffe is a real piece of work.
How is it that politically savvy people can not figure out how Obama won the Primary? My family is split right down the middle between dems and Republicans so I have seen both sides for years.
Operation Chaos was only a cover for the true actions of a lot of republicans. Their real issue was defeating Hillary and giving the nomination to Obama.
Hillary would be a much harder candidate for them to beat. She has been fully vetted and all of her baggage has been out there for years. They knew that she would be much harder to beat. So…….they voted in large numbers for Obama until he got so far ahead, that they had to bring her back in to keep the election going. Thus……Operation Chaos.
They are not going after Obama yet, because they know that Hillary could still pull it out, so they won’t sink Obama until he has the nomination.
Think about this, look back at what has happened and what is not happening. The GOP has been pulling strings in this election from day one. Once Obama has the nomination, if he gets it. You will see a swift and complete destruction of the “golden boy”. It will make the “swift boating” of john Kerry look like child’s play.
I think we have a Winner!
Its the Plouffe and Axelrod show, not just Plouffe. Axelrod was the consultant for D. Patrick’s goernor run in Mass. That’s where all the ‘hope’ and ‘its our time’ rhetoric came from. But now his supporters are seeing the truth come through: It all really was just words.
And the reason Obama did so poorly in New England even though his supporters tried to play the race card (aka The Bradely Effect).
His only reason for offering the VP to Hillary would be to blame her if she accepts and he loses(when the Repubs win a landslide) or if she declines(when the Repubs win in a landslide it’s because she wouldn’t run on his ticket)Either way this guy will sell out anybody and Hillary needs to get her debt paid off and get as far away from der Fuhrer as soon as possible.
I have always wondered why David Plouffe is so secretive. What is it about him that he is trying to hide, or is afraid others will learn?
I have my thoughts, which I’ll keep private, which are drawn upon by which bloggers went all in for Obama, and what their real motivations were.
I love the cartoon and always look forward to the next one. I also like the information attached to the cartoon. It makes me get even more involved with what is going on and wanting to take action to make changes in how the Democratic machine works. Thank you!
The cartoon made me think of magic. It is easier to perform magic when you have raw material and the public does not know what is going on. Magic is slide of hand and miss direction that fools the public into thinking and believing what the magician wants them to. As people become more aware that who they were influenced by the magician to believing Obama is, is not who he really is, then the same trick will be harder to pull off. And a new trick will be harder to sell which is why I do not feel Obama can win.
Early in the campaign, when reality of actually having the power of the presidency is like a game, playing it like a game without real life consequences can be fun. Just like magic can be fun. Magic is what Plouffe created with the Obama campaign. Since we knew very little about Obama, Plouffe could create any fantasy he wanted and we the people knowing very little about Obama could believe in the fantasy or even create our own fantasy about who Obama is and what he could do.
Now as we learn more about Obama and the magic, it will be harder to create the illusions. As we get closer to reality, we need to put away our need for fantasy and look for reality. That means we need a leader who is real and we can count on. A leader we know a great deal about and a leader who knows about the reality of government, the economy, foreign governments, world economics, the Democrats and Republicans together, and what it takes to create change. We do not need another unknown inexperienced person like what Bush was when he took office. With Hillary we have all that we need to believe in, without magical thinking.
Even Hillary though can not do it alone. We the people need to get real and realize that there is no quick fix to problems that have been ignored for years if not decades. We need to get behind Hillary, look truth in the face and make changes in our own behavior, our involvement with our government, demand change in the Democratic Party and from our government. We need to welcome previous Obama supporters back into the Hillary camp. And we need to do what Americans have always been able to do which is to put our thinking caps and get to work solving our problems and the world problems.
Rich
Even if Mr. Obama losses the general election, one thing he has done is to open my eyes and others that RACISM is not just a Republican thing; it is the American way. I used to think that Democrats of all races sincerely value the enormous patriot services by Black Americans throughout the history of this country–unfortunately, I was wrong.
I see why Whites Democrats in the South decamped to the Republican party in the 60s. The reason was that President Johnson liberated the blacks from the handcuffs of White in the South.
Please, keep the hate coming. We Black Americans are not new to agony and pain from White people. We are stronger, and are zealously ready to takeon any suffering that awaits us.
James, I agree that racism is still a problem, but do you see the reverse racism that so many of Whites are experiencing?
And I hope you are not saying that just because people dislike a Black candidate that they are prima facie racist. Give me Mayor Nutter or Cory Booker and I would be on board in a minute.
I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary supporters being called racists just because they support her. Worse yet, for the Obama campaign to suggest that the Clintons are racist is what turned me against Obama. Anyone who knows anything knows that was absolutely unforgiveable. That couple has been working for civil rights since they were VERY young and when it was not the popular stance to take. Shame on the Obama campaign!!!
I work in a hospital. I overheard a conversation as a family of African Americans were waiting for their relative. BO was on one of the networks as they were watching TV talking about helping Hillary to pay off her campaign debt. Members of the family stated that he should let the “b— pay her own debt off after what she did to him during the primaries.” I agree there’s racism from blacks and from whites and it’s about time people started to admit this; years ago my son at 17 went to a gas station to get something was beat up by a group of African Americans, his glasses were smashed, etc when the police cam they were already gone and we asked if they were going to try and find them. They said, “Oh they’re long gone, we’ll try” If this situation was reversed Jesse Jackson and Sharpton would have called this a hate crime if white teens had beat up a black teen. So it goes both ways and I for one am sick of no one admitting this.