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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-460465</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are mistaken my friend. He was asked on Fox news what advice he would give to Obama. I watched it and remember thinking that Rove's advice was actually good advice. Then it was like, what the hell is Rove doing giving Obama good advice? The republicans wanted to run against Obama. He is the "most liberal senator of 2007" who has taken on every republican talking point since he was crowned. Talk about easy flip-flop bulletin. And then when addressing his supporters over the kissing of Bush'd boots, he told them that they weren't listening to him.

When he said he would "work accross the isle" that meant I will agree with republicans. We have heard all of his type of campaign retoric before, and we knew what he meant. That is why we oppose him. As president he will given in to republicans all the time to prove this "work accross the isle" and democrats in congress will follow as if he is the pied piper. Leading us all to another Bush term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are mistaken my friend. He was asked on Fox news what advice he would give to Obama. I watched it and remember thinking that Rove&#8217;s advice was actually good advice. Then it was like, what the hell is Rove doing giving Obama good advice? The republicans wanted to run against Obama. He is the &#8220;most liberal senator of 2007&#8243; who has taken on every republican talking point since he was crowned. Talk about easy flip-flop bulletin. And then when addressing his supporters over the kissing of Bush&#8217;d boots, he told them that they weren&#8217;t listening to him.</p>
<p>When he said he would &#8220;work accross the isle&#8221; that meant I will agree with republicans. We have heard all of his type of campaign retoric before, and we knew what he meant. That is why we oppose him. As president he will given in to republicans all the time to prove this &#8220;work accross the isle&#8221; and democrats in congress will follow as if he is the pied piper. Leading us all to another Bush term.</p>
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		<title>By: cathnealon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-458503</link>
		<dc:creator>cathnealon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a hospital. I overheard a conversation as a family of African Americans were waiting for their relative. BO was on one of the networks as they were watching TV talking about helping Hillary to pay off her campaign debt. Members of the family stated that he should let the "b--- pay her own debt off after what she did to him during the primaries." I agree there's racism from blacks and from whites and it's about time people started to admit this; years ago my son at 17 went to a gas station to get something was beat up by a group of African Americans, his glasses were smashed, etc when the police cam they were already gone and we asked if they were going to try and find them. They said, "Oh they're long gone, we'll try" If this situation was reversed Jesse Jackson and Sharpton would have called this a hate crime if white teens had beat up a black teen. So it goes both ways and I for one am sick of no one admitting this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a hospital. I overheard a conversation as a family of African Americans were waiting for their relative. BO was on one of the networks as they were watching TV talking about helping Hillary to pay off her campaign debt. Members of the family stated that he should let the &#8220;b&#8212; pay her own debt off after what she did to him during the primaries.&#8221; I agree there&#8217;s racism from blacks and from whites and it&#8217;s about time people started to admit this; years ago my son at 17 went to a gas station to get something was beat up by a group of African Americans, his glasses were smashed, etc when the police cam they were already gone and we asked if they were going to try and find them. They said, &#8220;Oh they&#8217;re long gone, we&#8217;ll try&#8221; If this situation was reversed Jesse Jackson and Sharpton would have called this a hate crime if white teens had beat up a black teen. So it goes both ways and I for one am sick of no one admitting this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-457413</link>
		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I agree that racism is still a problem, but do you see the reverse racism that so many of Whites are experiencing?

And I hope you are not saying that just because people dislike a Black candidate that they are &lt;em&gt;prima facie &lt;/em&gt;racist.  Give me Mayor Nutter or Cory Booker and I would be on board in a minute.

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary supporters being called racists just because they support her.  Worse yet, for the Obama campaign to suggest that the Clintons are racist is what turned me against Obama.  Anyone who knows anything knows that was absolutely unforgiveable.  That couple has been working for civil rights since they were VERY young and when it was not the popular stance to take.  Shame on the Obama campaign!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I agree that racism is still a problem, but do you see the reverse racism that so many of Whites are experiencing?</p>
<p>And I hope you are not saying that just because people dislike a Black candidate that they are <em>prima facie </em>racist.  Give me Mayor Nutter or Cory Booker and I would be on board in a minute.</p>
<p>I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary supporters being called racists just because they support her.  Worse yet, for the Obama campaign to suggest that the Clintons are racist is what turned me against Obama.  Anyone who knows anything knows that was absolutely unforgiveable.  That couple has been working for civil rights since they were VERY young and when it was not the popular stance to take.  Shame on the Obama campaign!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-457250</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have a Winner!</description>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-457242</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;em&gt;To them, being liberal means attaching a Keep Tahoe Blue bumper sticker on the back of their over priced, oversized luxury SUV. LIberalism is worn as a fashion statement. &lt;/em&gt;

The True Successors to the, "Some of My Best Friends are Negroes!" set. Strongly reminiscent of the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Environmentalists of Convenience &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;who premeate Florida politics.

(Nothing says Hypocrisy quite like spending 35 years as a Peabody Coal manager, then retiring to Florida to piss and moan about the demise of the Everglades...a place where you'd never be caught dead).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; <em>To them, being liberal means attaching a Keep Tahoe Blue bumper sticker on the back of their over priced, oversized luxury SUV. LIberalism is worn as a fashion statement. </em></p>
<p>The True Successors to the, &#8220;Some of My Best Friends are Negroes!&#8221; set. Strongly reminiscent of the <strong><em>Environmentalists of Convenience </em></strong>who premeate Florida politics.</p>
<p>(Nothing says Hypocrisy quite like spending 35 years as a Peabody Coal manager, then retiring to Florida to piss and moan about the demise of the Everglades&#8230;a place where you&#8217;d never be caught dead).</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if Mr. Obama losses the general election, one thing he has done is to open my eyes and others that RACISM is not just a Republican thing; it is the American way. I used to think that Democrats of all races sincerely value the enormous patriot services by Black Americans throughout the history of this country--unfortunately, I was wrong. 
I see why Whites Democrats in the South decamped to the Republican party in the 60s. The reason was that President Johnson liberated the blacks from the handcuffs of White in the South. 
Please, keep the hate coming. We Black Americans are not new to agony and pain from White people. We are stronger, and are zealously ready to takeon any suffering that awaits us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Mr. Obama losses the general election, one thing he has done is to open my eyes and others that RACISM is not just a Republican thing; it is the American way. I used to think that Democrats of all races sincerely value the enormous patriot services by Black Americans throughout the history of this country&#8211;unfortunately, I was wrong.<br />
I see why Whites Democrats in the South decamped to the Republican party in the 60s. The reason was that President Johnson liberated the blacks from the handcuffs of White in the South.<br />
Please, keep the hate coming. We Black Americans are not new to agony and pain from White people. We are stronger, and are zealously ready to takeon any suffering that awaits us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-456144</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the cartoon and always look forward to the next one.  I also like the information attached to the cartoon.  It makes me get even more involved with what is going on and wanting to take action to make changes in how the Democratic machine works.  Thank you!   

The cartoon made me think of magic.  It is easier to perform magic when you have raw material and the public does not know what is going on.  Magic is slide of hand and miss direction that fools the public into thinking and believing what the magician wants them to.  As people become more aware that who they were influenced by the magician to believing Obama is, is not who he really is, then the same trick will be harder to pull off.  And a new trick will be harder to sell which is why I do not feel Obama can win.  

Early in the campaign, when reality of actually having the power of the presidency is like a game, playing it like a game without real life consequences can be fun.  Just like magic can be fun.  Magic is what Plouffe created with the Obama campaign.  Since we knew very little about Obama, Plouffe could create any fantasy he wanted and we the people knowing very little about Obama could believe in the fantasy or even create our own fantasy about who Obama is and what he could do.

Now as we learn more about Obama and the magic, it will be harder to create the illusions.  As we get closer to reality, we need to put away our need for fantasy and look for reality.  That means we need a leader who is real and we can count on.  A leader we know a great deal about and a leader who knows about the reality of government, the economy, foreign governments, world economics, the Democrats and Republicans together, and what it takes to create change.  We do not need another unknown inexperienced person like what Bush was when he took office.  With Hillary we have all that we need to believe in, without magical thinking. 

Even Hillary though can not do it alone.  We the people need to get real and realize that there is no quick fix to problems that have been ignored for years if not decades.  We need to get behind Hillary, look truth in the face and make changes in our own behavior, our involvement with our government, demand change in the Democratic Party and from our government. We need to welcome previous Obama supporters back into the Hillary camp.  And we need to do what Americans have always been able to do which is to put our thinking caps and get to work solving our problems and the world problems.   

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the cartoon and always look forward to the next one.  I also like the information attached to the cartoon.  It makes me get even more involved with what is going on and wanting to take action to make changes in how the Democratic machine works.  Thank you!   </p>
<p>The cartoon made me think of magic.  It is easier to perform magic when you have raw material and the public does not know what is going on.  Magic is slide of hand and miss direction that fools the public into thinking and believing what the magician wants them to.  As people become more aware that who they were influenced by the magician to believing Obama is, is not who he really is, then the same trick will be harder to pull off.  And a new trick will be harder to sell which is why I do not feel Obama can win.  </p>
<p>Early in the campaign, when reality of actually having the power of the presidency is like a game, playing it like a game without real life consequences can be fun.  Just like magic can be fun.  Magic is what Plouffe created with the Obama campaign.  Since we knew very little about Obama, Plouffe could create any fantasy he wanted and we the people knowing very little about Obama could believe in the fantasy or even create our own fantasy about who Obama is and what he could do.</p>
<p>Now as we learn more about Obama and the magic, it will be harder to create the illusions.  As we get closer to reality, we need to put away our need for fantasy and look for reality.  That means we need a leader who is real and we can count on.  A leader we know a great deal about and a leader who knows about the reality of government, the economy, foreign governments, world economics, the Democrats and Republicans together, and what it takes to create change.  We do not need another unknown inexperienced person like what Bush was when he took office.  With Hillary we have all that we need to believe in, without magical thinking. </p>
<p>Even Hillary though can not do it alone.  We the people need to get real and realize that there is no quick fix to problems that have been ignored for years if not decades.  We need to get behind Hillary, look truth in the face and make changes in our own behavior, our involvement with our government, demand change in the Democratic Party and from our government. We need to welcome previous Obama supporters back into the Hillary camp.  And we need to do what Americans have always been able to do which is to put our thinking caps and get to work solving our problems and the world problems.   </p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Copeland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Copeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Farm" is absolutely on target when it states that Obama supporters wear liberalism as a fashion statement.  

This is why issues don't matter to them.  They don't care if it really isn't universal health care (they already have there's) and don't get alarmed at real sexism or the calling someone a racist who has devoted his life to racial equality.

Obama is just a fashion statement.

The real genius of Plouffe, Axelrod, and the rest of his handlers is that they understood who to market Obama like he was Odwalla juice or organic fruits or the latest must-drink bottled water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Farm&#8221; is absolutely on target when it states that Obama supporters wear liberalism as a fashion statement.  </p>
<p>This is why issues don&#8217;t matter to them.  They don&#8217;t care if it really isn&#8217;t universal health care (they already have there&#8217;s) and don&#8217;t get alarmed at real sexism or the calling someone a racist who has devoted his life to racial equality.</p>
<p>Obama is just a fashion statement.</p>
<p>The real genius of Plouffe, Axelrod, and the rest of his handlers is that they understood who to market Obama like he was Odwalla juice or organic fruits or the latest must-drink bottled water.</p>
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		<title>By: OxyCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>OxyCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wondered why David Plouffe is so secretive. What is it about him that he is trying to hide, or is afraid others will learn?
I have my thoughts, which I'll keep private, which are drawn upon by which bloggers went all in for Obama, and what their real motivations were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered why David Plouffe is so secretive. What is it about him that he is trying to hide, or is afraid others will learn?<br />
I have my thoughts, which I&#8217;ll keep private, which are drawn upon by which bloggers went all in for Obama, and what their real motivations were.</p>
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		<title>By: cathnealon</title>
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		<dc:creator>cathnealon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His only reason for offering the VP to Hillary would be to blame her if she accepts and he loses(when the Repubs win a landslide) or if she declines(when the Repubs win in a landslide it's because she wouldn't run on his ticket)Either way this guy will sell out anybody and Hillary needs to get her debt paid off and get as far away from der Fuhrer as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His only reason for offering the VP to Hillary would be to blame her if she accepts and he loses(when the Repubs win a landslide) or if she declines(when the Repubs win in a landslide it&#8217;s because she wouldn&#8217;t run on his ticket)Either way this guy will sell out anybody and Hillary needs to get her debt paid off and get as far away from der Fuhrer as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: PamFlorida</title>
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		<dc:creator>PamFlorida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no "true" communists. The radical idealism of true communists is that everyone shares the wealth equally.
Communism as practiced today, is a system whereby the minority (educated elitists with money and priviledge) make sure that the majority are equal in that they have nothing. The monied elite are corporatists shills, regardless of race or cultural origin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no &#8220;true&#8221; communists. The radical idealism of true communists is that everyone shares the wealth equally.<br />
Communism as practiced today, is a system whereby the minority (educated elitists with money and priviledge) make sure that the majority are equal in that they have nothing. The monied elite are corporatists shills, regardless of race or cultural origin.</p>
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		<title>By: nancysabet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-455274</link>
		<dc:creator>nancysabet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least have some dignity and don't copy others' work like your master.</description>
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		<title>By: nancysabet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-455267</link>
		<dc:creator>nancysabet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the hell Obambi is, I don't even know this dude, and what I know is a description of a criminal who should be put in jail rather in the WH. And a con like him talkes about the most popular and successful president as if he is one his own ex-cons. Please don't make me to hate Obama more than I do now by the these BS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the hell Obambi is, I don&#8217;t even know this dude, and what I know is a description of a criminal who should be put in jail rather in the WH. And a con like him talkes about the most popular and successful president as if he is one his own ex-cons. Please don&#8217;t make me to hate Obama more than I do now by the these BS!</p>
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		<title>By: nancysabet</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancysabet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say , as much as I dislike this guy and will never vote for him, but if Hillary is on the ticket it would be hard for me not to consider voting. That's how much I want Hillary in the  WH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say , as much as I dislike this guy and will never vote for him, but if Hillary is on the ticket it would be hard for me not to consider voting. That&#8217;s how much I want Hillary in the  WH.</p>
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		<title>By: nancysabet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/plouffe-the-magic-dragon/#comment-455243</link>
		<dc:creator>nancysabet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even the more favorable Obama coverage and anti-Hillary from the media did not help him to win the primary. DNC and SD did it for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even the more favorable Obama coverage and anti-Hillary from the media did not help him to win the primary. DNC and SD did it for him.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, I lied...well please do tell exactly what new ideas did he mention and lay praise on regarding either the Clinton or the Carter administrations?  And the only "new and good" idea I have heard him talk about regarding Kennedy is that he gave his father an oppotunity to come to the U.S. for an education.  ROFLMAO.  Yeah, Kennedy wrote Senior a letter and said..."you're invited".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I lied&#8230;well please do tell exactly what new ideas did he mention and lay praise on regarding either the Clinton or the Carter administrations?  And the only &#8220;new and good&#8221; idea I have heard him talk about regarding Kennedy is that he gave his father an oppotunity to come to the U.S. for an education.  ROFLMAO.  Yeah, Kennedy wrote Senior a letter and said&#8230;&#8221;you&#8217;re invited&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: derridog</title>
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		<dc:creator>derridog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me neither.  I don't want him. I don't care who is VP. If she runs with him and he loses, she will also be tainted and go down. The Dems will no doubt blame the loss on her.

They, of course, will do that anyway, if lots of Hillary Dems vote against him, but he will then be losing by himself and she will be in a stronger position if she decides to run again.

Besides which, i don't want her to humiliate herself by being his VP.  I hope everyone I admire says no to him.  I hope Webb starts a trend.</description>
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<p>They, of course, will do that anyway, if lots of Hillary Dems vote against him, but he will then be losing by himself and she will be in a stronger position if she decides to run again.</p>
<p>Besides which, i don&#8217;t want her to humiliate herself by being his VP.  I hope everyone I admire says no to him.  I hope Webb starts a trend.</p>
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		<title>By: MrMike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the reason Obama did so poorly in New England even though his supporters tried to play the race card (aka The Bradely Effect).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the reason Obama did so poorly in New England even though his supporters tried to play the race card (aka The Bradely Effect).</p>
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		<title>By: changeyoucanpuketo</title>
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		<dc:creator>changeyoucanpuketo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is a "Blank Screen" yes he can be both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is a &#8220;Blank Screen&#8221; yes he can be both!</p>
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		<title>By: MrMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama’s message of change. Whether you admire her or not, you have to acknowledge that Clinton’s an old-style, legacy Democrat. Obama’s candidacy is premised on a break with the past.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Who's past? his past? Like getting your opponents kicked off the ballot instead of winning by arguing the merits of his position over theirs? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;2. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama’s repudiation of the old way of doing politics. Clinton and her surrogates are tough campaigners who have gone hard after Obama (see below) trying to draw him into the fight. And on those occasions where he and his team have responded in kind, Team Clinton has smirkingly asked whatever happened to the politics of hope?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Tho old way of politics? Like pointing out that your programs and plans are better than your opponents. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;3. Bill Clinton. He’s a brilliant man and an amazing politician, but he’s shown an inability to stay on message and keep his foot out of his mouth as he campaigns for his wife. Obama already has Rev. Jeremiah Wright to worry about — he doesn’t need another loose cannon out there ready to fire.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How well would Obama do if he were covered by a hostile print and broadcast media ready to pounce in every mis-statement and turn it into something it wasn't?
&lt;blockquote&gt;4. She’s polarizing. For all that she’s shown how popular she can be with certain groups of primary voters, Hillary Clinton also remains a controversial and unpopular figure. Here are her “unfavorable” ratings among all voters in a set of recent national polls, with Obama’s unfavorability ratings in parenthesis: 37 (30) ; 45 (37) 46 (38) 49 (40) 54 (39) 53 
(37).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
See my comments above about the media. After 16 years of negative reporting and or outright lies about the Clintons they have the nerve to report that HRC has high negatives with a straight face. Were Obama under the same scrutiny as the Clintons, where would his negatives be?
&lt;blockquote&gt;5. She’ll be the star of anti-Obama commercials: “It’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” she said on March 6. “I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
For putting into words what everybody but the cultists know? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;6. She’s gone beyond the pale in attacking Obama: “I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002,” she said on March 4. Clinton delivered this insulting, dismissive, destructive critique several times, and it’s a bell she can’t unring.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're repeating yourself. 
A better example of going beyond the pale attacking your opponent would be statements like,"I understand that Senator Clinton, &lt;strong&gt;periodically when she's feeling down,&lt;/strong&gt; launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal,"
&lt;blockquote&gt;7. She’s toting unpacked baggage. Clinton likes to claim that she’s been thoroughly vetted and withstood all the Republican attacks of the 1990s and now any bad news about her is simply old news. It’s not so. Obama hasn’t called her on this claim because he’s trying to preserve the image that he’s above the politics of scandal. And the Republican operatives are lying in the weeds, boosting Clinton’s candidacy and licking their chops, waiting to pounce.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're right about one thing in this point, Obama trying to preserve his image. How's that working out inre FISA, Iraq and Campaign Finance?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Not only are there all the “–gate” scandals from her husband’s administration that were set aside rather than fully resolved in the public’s mind (travel, file, cattle and so on), but the issue of the pardons Bill Clinton granted on his way out of the door and the mysterious funding sources from the Clinton Presidential Library are still out there.&lt;/blockquote&gt; You mean all those scandals Ken Starr spent years and millions trying to uncover only to come up with a stain? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;8. Picking a real teammate is better than picking a political counterweight. Bill Clinton of Arkansas himself surprised the pundits in 1992 when he chose as his No. 2 another young moderate Democrat from the mid-South — Al Gore of Tennessee — and the two ran a vigorous, consistent campaign. Obama would do better to pick someone of his generation who shares his general outlook and who can speak passionately and convincingly to voters about why they should support Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt; A consummate liar?

 A consumate liar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama’s message of change. Whether you admire her or not, you have to acknowledge that Clinton’s an old-style, legacy Democrat. Obama’s candidacy is premised on a break with the past.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who&#8217;s past? his past? Like getting your opponents kicked off the ballot instead of winning by arguing the merits of his position over theirs? </p>
<blockquote><p>2. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama’s repudiation of the old way of doing politics. Clinton and her surrogates are tough campaigners who have gone hard after Obama (see below) trying to draw him into the fight. And on those occasions where he and his team have responded in kind, Team Clinton has smirkingly asked whatever happened to the politics of hope?</p></blockquote>
<p>Tho old way of politics? Like pointing out that your programs and plans are better than your opponents. </p>
<blockquote><p>3. Bill Clinton. He’s a brilliant man and an amazing politician, but he’s shown an inability to stay on message and keep his foot out of his mouth as he campaigns for his wife. Obama already has Rev. Jeremiah Wright to worry about — he doesn’t need another loose cannon out there ready to fire.</p></blockquote>
<p>How well would Obama do if he were covered by a hostile print and broadcast media ready to pounce in every mis-statement and turn it into something it wasn&#8217;t?</p>
<blockquote><p>4. She’s polarizing. For all that she’s shown how popular she can be with certain groups of primary voters, Hillary Clinton also remains a controversial and unpopular figure. Here are her “unfavorable” ratings among all voters in a set of recent national polls, with Obama’s unfavorability ratings in parenthesis: 37 (30) ; 45 (37) 46 (38) 49 (40) 54 (39) 53<br />
(37).</p></blockquote>
<p>See my comments above about the media. After 16 years of negative reporting and or outright lies about the Clintons they have the nerve to report that HRC has high negatives with a straight face. Were Obama under the same scrutiny as the Clintons, where would his negatives be?</p>
<blockquote><p>5. She’ll be the star of anti-Obama commercials: “It’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” she said on March 6. “I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy.”</p></blockquote>
<p>For putting into words what everybody but the cultists know? </p>
<blockquote><p>6. She’s gone beyond the pale in attacking Obama: “I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002,” she said on March 4. Clinton delivered this insulting, dismissive, destructive critique several times, and it’s a bell she can’t unring.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re repeating yourself.<br />
A better example of going beyond the pale attacking your opponent would be statements like,&#8221;I understand that Senator Clinton, <strong>periodically when she&#8217;s feeling down,</strong> launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal,&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>7. She’s toting unpacked baggage. Clinton likes to claim that she’s been thoroughly vetted and withstood all the Republican attacks of the 1990s and now any bad news about her is simply old news. It’s not so. Obama hasn’t called her on this claim because he’s trying to preserve the image that he’s above the politics of scandal. And the Republican operatives are lying in the weeds, boosting Clinton’s candidacy and licking their chops, waiting to pounce.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right about one thing in this point, Obama trying to preserve his image. How&#8217;s that working out inre FISA, Iraq and Campaign Finance?</p>
<blockquote><p>Not only are there all the “–gate” scandals from her husband’s administration that were set aside rather than fully resolved in the public’s mind (travel, file, cattle and so on), but the issue of the pardons Bill Clinton granted on his way out of the door and the mysterious funding sources from the Clinton Presidential Library are still out there.</p></blockquote>
<p> You mean all those scandals Ken Starr spent years and millions trying to uncover only to come up with a stain? </p>
<blockquote><p>8. Picking a real teammate is better than picking a political counterweight. Bill Clinton of Arkansas himself surprised the pundits in 1992 when he chose as his No. 2 another young moderate Democrat from the mid-South — Al Gore of Tennessee — and the two ran a vigorous, consistent campaign. Obama would do better to pick someone of his generation who shares his general outlook and who can speak passionately and convincingly to voters about why they should support Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p> A consummate liar?</p>
<p> A consumate liar?</p>
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