Comments on: The “Making” of a Politician http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:32:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: TopDog http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-1244580 TopDog Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:31:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-1244580 <strong>TopDog...</strong> I am So Lucky That I found your blog and great articles. I will come to your blog often for finding new great articles from your blog.I am adding your rss feed in my reader Thank you... TopDog…

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]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459289 TeakwoodKite Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:11:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459289 <em>You folks weren’t listening at all to Obama were you? His pitch was always that he could get folks together, which means you have to compromise. If you thought he was never going to compromise, then you weren’t paying attention.</em>. Time for General Hospital kids; Will Dr Crap Cannon please report to proctology STAT! 1) <em>You folks weren’t listening at all.</em> Nurse, scalpel please... Patient;"Doc?" 2) <em>His pitch</em>...which one? The castrato voice version or the "I am God" on a PA system? 3) <em>If you thought</em>... mmmm a common misunderstanding of BO supporters is that emotionalism is the answer to all their hopes. 4) <em>then you weren’t paying attention</em>. Oops! Nurse? What was that I just sowed up? Nurse; Ahhh ummm ahhh ...The <em>notion</em> that I would tell you that I handed you a cold speculum, when you asked for the forceps and some sutures, is because <em>you weren’t paying attention..</em> ---- As far as compromising goes, who with and on what? The Constitution? FISA? The lives of Americans and others in Iraq and Afghanistan? The well being and health-care of our citizens? (God Bless Dr. Carol) The right to Habeas Corpus? Having the Justice department DO THE JOB? Having corporate contractors and Merc's replace government responsibilities? Having Congress and the Executive Branch uphold the Constitution of the United States instead of the the immutable laws of pork pipe politics? Be lied to? Compromise? Sorry. Not in the mood to. What you are saying is BO will compromise our national security. You folks weren’t listening at all to Obama were you? His pitch was always that he could get folks together, which means you have to compromise. If you thought he was never going to compromise, then you weren’t paying attention..

Time for General Hospital kids; Will Dr Crap Cannon please report to proctology STAT!

1) You folks weren’t listening at all. Nurse, scalpel please…
Patient;”Doc?”
2) His pitch…which one? The castrato voice version or the “I am God” on a PA system?
3) If you thought… mmmm a common misunderstanding of BO supporters is that emotionalism is the answer to all their hopes.
4) then you weren’t paying attention. Oops! Nurse? What was that I just sowed up?

Nurse; Ahhh ummm ahhh …The notion that I would tell you that I handed you a cold speculum, when you asked for the forceps and some sutures, is because you weren’t paying attention..
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As far as compromising goes, who with and on what? The Constitution? FISA? The lives of Americans and others in Iraq and Afghanistan? The well being and health-care of our citizens? (God Bless Dr. Carol) The right to Habeas Corpus? Having the Justice department DO THE JOB? Having corporate contractors and Merc’s replace government responsibilities? Having Congress and the Executive Branch uphold the Constitution of the United States instead of the the immutable laws of pork pipe politics? Be lied to?

Compromise? Sorry. Not in the mood to.
What you are saying is BO will compromise our national security.

]]> By: puma* http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459282 puma* Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:09:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459282 Oh Barry sweetie, we didn't miss the point did we hon? And we'd love for your to donate from your blogger's 7.00/hr to help The Cause. Maybe you could send a few bucks to Trinity. They need them for their CD archives...new series on How Obama lost his Groove and Found it in the New Yorker. And just get over it, sweetie. No big deal. love, Puma NoBama c/o Odinga's Sharia law Library Nairobi Oh Barry sweetie, we didn’t miss the point did we hon? And we’d love for your to donate from your blogger’s 7.00/hr to help The Cause. Maybe you could send a few bucks to Trinity. They need them for their CD archives…new series on How Obama lost his Groove and Found it in the New Yorker.
And just get over it, sweetie. No big deal.

love,
Puma NoBama
c/o Odinga’s Sharia law Library
Nairobi

]]> By: sakel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459254 sakel Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:04:36 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-459254 Thanks, WRY...I have been banned from HUFF&Puff, too, for beeing too....pro-Democratic, that is too 'pro-Hillary'! Their amazing stupidity is only surpassed by their phenomenal dictatorial bias! Shame on these Politburo comissars! I fully agree that Larry Johnson should clean up the site from Obamabots. But, periodically, when they get feeling low, and start launching their attacks and their claws come out....well....we can always ask Rev. Jesse to file them! Surely, sweetie won't mind! Thanks, WRY…I have been banned from HUFF&Puff, too, for beeing too….pro-Democratic, that is too ‘pro-Hillary’! Their amazing stupidity is only surpassed by their phenomenal dictatorial bias! Shame on these Politburo comissars! I fully agree that Larry Johnson should clean up the site from Obamabots. But, periodically, when they get feeling low, and start launching their attacks and their claws come out….well….we can always ask Rev. Jesse to file them! Surely, sweetie won’t mind!

]]> By: ritamary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-458147 ritamary Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:29:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-458147 The Obamington Post bots are worried the non-elitists won't get the satire? But did they say they don't need us and we should stay home on election day? The Obamington Post bots are worried the non-elitists won’t get the satire? But did they say they don’t need us and we should stay home on election day?

]]> By: ritamary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-458112 ritamary Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:22:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-458112 This is a great article about Hillary. I love Ed Rendell's comparison of Hillary to Hubert Humphrey - a happy warrior. And I love the quote from her at the end: "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger." She is our happy warrior. This is a great article about Hillary. I love Ed Rendell’s comparison of Hillary to Hubert Humphrey – a happy warrior. And I love the quote from her at the end: “Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” She is our happy warrior.

]]> By: Obamabot formerly known as jj http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457945 Obamabot formerly known as jj Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:44:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457945 Sorry. I hadn't noticed I stepped on somebody else's nickname. I won't use jj again. Impersonating others isn't acceptable behavior. Sorry. I hadn’t noticed I stepped on somebody else’s nickname. I won’t use jj again. Impersonating others isn’t acceptable behavior.

]]> By: Indiana Dem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457842 Indiana Dem Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:22:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457842 <blockquote>“You folks weren’t listening at all to Obama were you? His pitch was always that he could get folks together, which means you have to compromise. If you thought he was never going to compromise, then you weren’t paying attention.”</blockquote> <strong>Right on target!</strong> There's a consistency about Barack Obama's approach and message. Change requires unity. Unity requires compromise. Compromise <em>isn't the same thing as selling out</em>. Compromise is <em>strategy</em>. Compromise is also what <em>makes democracy work</em> in the real world. <strong>Take away compromise, and democracy turns into "the tyranny of the majority". </strong>

“You folks weren’t listening at all to Obama were you? His pitch was always that he could get folks together, which means you have to compromise. If you thought he was never going to compromise, then you weren’t paying attention.”

Right on target!

There’s a consistency about Barack Obama’s approach and message. Change requires unity. Unity requires compromise. Compromise isn’t the same thing as selling out. Compromise is strategy. Compromise is also what makes democracy work in the real world.

Take away compromise, and democracy turns into “the tyranny of the majority”.

]]> By: Indiana Dem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457769 Indiana Dem Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:08:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457769 A politician might get elected to local, county, or possibly even state office without being <em>shrewd</em> or <em>calculating</em>, but he or she would probably go no further lacking those attributes. Any successful national candidate must possess those qualities--or be paying close attention to the strategies of trusted campaign advisors who have them. National political contests combine the features of a game of chess, a popularity contest, and a corporate take-over. How a candidate navigates the obstacle course that leads to higher office doesn't reveal what he or she will actually do when they get there. It suggests something about how effective they'll be, however. Getting anything done once in office <em>also</em> requires shrewdness and calculation. Chicago politics is a hard training ground. Succeed there, and you've got your eyes wide open. A politician might get elected to local, county, or possibly even state office without being shrewd or calculating, but he or she would probably go no further lacking those attributes. Any successful national candidate must possess those qualities–or be paying close attention to the strategies of trusted campaign advisors who have them. National political contests combine the features of a game of chess, a popularity contest, and a corporate take-over.

How a candidate navigates the obstacle course that leads to higher office doesn’t reveal what he or she will actually do when they get there. It suggests something about how effective they’ll be, however. Getting anything done once in office also requires shrewdness and calculation.

Chicago politics is a hard training ground. Succeed there, and you’ve got your eyes wide open.

]]> By: Barry Blitt http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457611 Barry Blitt Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:28:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457611 I think you're missing the point of my New Yorker cover, which is meant as satire of the fear mongering being used by sites like No Quarter. But by all means go ahead and donate money! I think you’re missing the point of my New Yorker cover, which is meant as satire of the fear mongering being used by sites like No Quarter. But by all means go ahead and donate money!

]]> By: Steven Mather http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457384 Steven Mather Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:43:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457384 IB, I think that the vast majority of people who are being targeted by the cover will understand both how they are being targeted and why they are being targeted, given reasonable variations in interpretation. Usually, people are pretty good at discerning how they are perceived by hostile others. Further, each of the "myths" that the satire portrays have at least a whiff of the truth about them: if they did not, they would have no purchase and would have long since been dismissed. Given Senator Obama's scant record, his claims about his unique abilities and character, and his campaign's exhortations about rarefied judgment, all we have to determine the veracity of these claims is those things that indicate the aforementioned qualities. The New Yorker does a service by providing an epidermal foray into Obama's character by examining his record and his actions. To do this in a liberal publication, perhaps it was necessary to dismiss other, potentially less fruitful avenues for discerning character. This said, "The first law of intelligent tinkering is to keep all of the parts.", according to Wendell Berry. it is intellectually negligent to dismiss the "mythic" concerns out of hand, to the extent that they point to a lifetime of choices that provide a window into the soul of the candidate. The trick is to delicately separate out the meaningless noise from the proper chord that knots the cacophony that surrounds the myth. Steven IB,

I think that the vast majority of people who are being targeted by the cover will understand both how they are being targeted and why they are being targeted, given reasonable variations in interpretation. Usually, people are pretty good at discerning how they are perceived by hostile others.

Further, each of the “myths” that the satire portrays have at least a whiff of the truth about them: if they did not, they would have no purchase and would have long since been dismissed. Given Senator Obama’s scant record, his claims about his unique abilities and character, and his campaign’s exhortations about rarefied judgment, all we have to determine the veracity of these claims is those things that indicate the aforementioned qualities.

The New Yorker does a service by providing an epidermal foray into Obama’s character by examining his record and his actions. To do this in a liberal publication, perhaps it was necessary to dismiss other, potentially less fruitful avenues for discerning character. This said, “The first law of intelligent tinkering is to keep all of the parts.”, according to Wendell Berry. it is intellectually negligent to dismiss the “mythic” concerns out of hand, to the extent that they point to a lifetime of choices that provide a window into the soul of the candidate. The trick is to delicately separate out the meaningless noise from the proper chord that knots the cacophony that surrounds the myth.

Steven

]]> By: Boxer Mum 06 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457365 Boxer Mum 06 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:38:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/13/the-making-of-a-politician/#comment-457365 Another way to show support is to buy the magazine! Money talks! If they see the sales of this magazine soar, the MSM will jump on the wagon and start to cover the same type of stories - they want their cut to! Another way to show support is to buy the magazine! Money talks!

If they see the sales of this magazine soar, the MSM will jump on the wagon and start to cover the same type of stories – they want their cut to!

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