Obama Up Against The Wall
By Pat Racimora on July 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM in Foreign Affairs, Obama
Obama’s globe-prancing, as if he is already the elected President of the United States, has instigated a dispute within a foreign country.
The distinction between elected state leaders and a partisan candidate (one who has yet to be formally nominated!) has not escaped German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was upset by the request by Barack Obama to give a speech at the Brandenburg Gate, calling such a rally “inappropriate.” She does not believe that Germany should give any impression that it is involved in American political races.
The Obama team is apparently surprised at the controversy, which in itself reveals a lack of understanding of the world community and international protocol. One cannot bluster into a sovereign foreign country without regard for its tradition and political situation.
To Germans, the site holds significant meaning. The Brandenburg Gate, built in the 18th century, became the symbol of peace and unification after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Speaking before this hallowed place is considered a honor that is reserved for already elected officials. Previous speakers include Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and John F. Kennedy. (Actually, Kennedy’s famous ‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ speech was delivered at a town hall in the city, but he did visit the gate.)
According to Chancellor Merkel’s spokesman Thomas Steg. “It is unusual to hold election rallies abroad. No German candidate for high office would even think of using the National Mall (in Washington) or Red Square in Moscow for a rally because it would not be seen as appropriate.”
However, Merkel (of the more conservative Christian Democrats) does not have the last word in the matter, and the rival left-leaning government of the city-state has granted permission for Obama’s speech at the site. (UK Telegraph) One likely motivation would be to upset the Chancellor.
No matter how this matter ultimately resolves itself, Obama and his campaign started a squabble within the factions of a foreign ally. As Bill Galston, a one-time presidential adviser, told British newspaper The Telegraph, “It [the Obama campaign] shows a certain inexperience about complex foreign issues, which is, of course, the opposite of the impression they are trying to create,” he said, reports the UPI.
OK, this incident may not do signfificant or long-lasting damage between our two nations. But avoiding the matter in the first place seems like a no-brainer to anyone who knows just a little about Germany and the history and signficance of the Berlin Wall and the Brandenburg Gate. What could happen when the stakes are much higher?
Read Charles Lemos on No Quarter for more about the wall and the controversy here and here.
its even more disturbing when Baracktrack runs from american votes and their questions…
recently at a hispanic voter event Mccain and Baracktrack both gave speeches and it was suggested that it would be a good idea if both candidates took part in a Town Hall style question and answer session…
mccain agreed and Baracktrack said no…
Baracktrack runs from every opportunity to face real american voters…
yet he is prancing off the Germany and causing a division in another country…
Barack is a menace to democracy, america and the world… as well as being a coward…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I agree 100%. He’s avoiding American town hall discussions but wants European rallies?
This is appalling and a smack in the face of Americans. A lot of people are going to view it that way, too.
“According to Chancellor Merkel’s spokesman Thomas Steg. “It is unusual to hold election rallies abroad. No German candidate for high office would even think of using the National Mall (in Washington) or Red Square in Moscow for a rally because it would not be seen as appropriate.”
Only an idiot self congradulating ignorant maniac would want to do that.
He is frighteningly naive.
I’m afraid, it’s not only naïvité.
Narcistically impaired people have no regard for others and their feelings. They usually have no tolerance for critisism and they are obsessed by the conviction that they are *the* best, that others have just been waiting for them and that they are naturally and unquestionable deserving where ever their fancy takes them. Often these people are also ridden by complex de grandeur. This list could go on and on…
Thank you! I do believe he is pathologically narcissistic and needs psychiatric help. I mean, the man truly has some serious mental health issues and needs to get help before he destroys his family or this country. But nobody in this country really takes mental health issues seriously. Most people think mental health issues aren’t real and that they’re all in peoples’ heads. But there really are mental illnesses out there, and Barack Obama has one.
Found a poll:
This poll can be found on The Local..German newspaper. It is still open..
http://www.thelocal.de/
Why doesn’t he go back to Pakistan to give a speech, I think that is one of 2 countries he went to a few years ago, the other was Kenya. I guess he wanted to tap into his Muslim roots.
He can charge addmisson to his rallys, get more money. Town halls don’t pay that well….
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Yeah, you are right. That’s one more way to launder those illegal foreign contributions.
and in euros
I also think this is fund raising exercise. I found this dated 13 October 2007:
I never knew Mrs Obama was in London??
Souce: Guardian. UK
http://tinyurl.com/3omcp2
I wonder where he will send his wife this time!!
Was this “fundraiser” in London for American expats because foreign nationals are not permitted to participate in U. S. elections?
And as for Merkel; she’s had a rough time with U. S. politicians (Bush’s “backrub”) so I can see her not wanting to be accused of taking sides.
This just shows his arrogance and his ignorance of foreign affairs and the consequences of undisciplined and thoughtless words and actions.
mo is supposed to be her in Wa State today. At least that’s what last nights news said.
This is illegal as is pointed out below by virtue of our election laws… not that this would stop him but we should all take note of that fact that he is a serial abuser of this kind of thing,
A crucial point we haven’t talked about is how the U.S. State Dept. is promoting this presidential election around the world. Of course, it’s a big propaganda surge for Obama (primarily through established media and the International Herald Tribune), which underscores just how intricately involved Wall Street and the Bush Admin. are pushing this guy for the Dem. nomination. (And Pelosi claims Bush is a criminal… it’s all theatre.)
Since it’s harder to contol the press outside the U.S. than from within, it’s possible that the coup d’etat carried out against Clinton could get exposed in another country, and then inevitably get picked up by someone in the U.S. media. In fact, organizers here should invest some time in overseas outreach, since all those press outlets are covering the race. Just a thought…
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Unbelievable! He’s a total f*ckin embarrassment to America. Bush? Pelosi? Someone? Stop this right now!
We will have none of this! This prig needs to go home to Chicago and stop the street violence. Kids are killing kids on a daily basis and they are calling in the national guard.
God Help US!
He needs to get out of the FED GOV”T.
Obama will get us into a third world war!
Please DNC & Delegates..protect US from OBAMA!
WE are not all stupid. We didn’t vote for this incompetent man. See what happens when you steal the election and don’t rely on the general consensus of ADULTS! Stop this nonsensical man NOW!
His own wife says he’s pathetic and his own kids are smarter than he is. Truly!
http://www.nbc5.com/news/16901117/detail.html
The summer of 2008 will be remembered as especially violent. Blagojevich said there’s been a child shot nearly every day since June 26, with 29 Chicago Public School students shot since last fall
This means stop! </ STOP IT!
It’s time someone tell this man it’s over and to resign from the race. I mean it!
We all have had enough. This is gone waaaaaay too far!
Is this why al gore and the dems dont want us to drill?
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Bin Laden Planning Hiroshima-Type Destruction?
Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:26 AM
By: Paul M. Weyrich Article Font Size
Does Osama bin Laden possess nuclear weapons? Has he smuggled these weapons into the United States? Does he have a plan to detonate these weapons in multiple American cities if Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear facilities? Dr. Hugh Cort, president of the American Foundation for Counter-Terrorism Policy and Research, believes the answer to all of these questions is yes.
Cort has assembled a body of evidence which he claims supports the view that bin Laden has a plan for an “American Hiroshima” which will be implemented in the near future. He has sent this material to various U.S. officials, including Robert S. Mueller III, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Cort believes that the government is not doing enough to prevent an attack.
Much of his evidence centers around one Hamid Mir, a Pakistani journalist who has conducted the only interview of bin Laden after 9/11. Bin Laden told Mir that he had acquired 20 suitcase nuclear bombs from the former Soviet Union. Mir told Cort that bin Laden’s men have smuggled these bombs into the United States.
His men supposedly are waiting for bin Laden to give them the signal, then seven to ten American cities will be struck. If true it is little wonder that Iran’s leader confidently predicts that the United States will be bombed back to the Stone Age.
Bin Laden supposedly has fulfilled Islamic law by warning the United States that an attack is coming and offering a truce — convert to Islam and you will not be attacked. Refusal to convert to Islam means that an attack against America is justified. Three weeks prior to 9/11 bin Laden warned that the United States would be attacked in an unprecedented way for its support of Israel.
Already bin Laden has called for all Muslims in the United States to leave. Instead of a mass exodus of Muslims from this country, new mosques are opening every few weeks. Muslim schools also are being established, which suggests that families plan to stay here for the foreseeable future. But Yossef Bodansky, director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism from 1988 to 1998, has testified that bin Laden has obtained nuclear weapons.
He told Congress that “Osama has recruited former Soviet Special Forces (SPETSNAZ) soldiers to teach al-Qaida how to maintain and operate the bombs.”
Mir, by the way, has suggested that most of the nuclear weapons have been smuggled across the border from Mexico. Opponents of illegal immigration long have argued that they want the border monitored and closed for national security purposes.
Proponents of illegal immigration have maintained that opposition to it is “racist.” Clearly, opponents of illegal immigration have the better case; although if Mir is correct, the door may have been open too long.
Ronald Kessler, chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax.com, interviewed Mueller, who said that he is very concerned about bin Laden having nuclear weapons in the United States, so concerned that the FBI has surrounded mosques in 10 American cities with nuclear radiation detectors. Cort quotes Steve Coll, president of New America Foundation, as stating that these detectors cannot sense enriched uranium when it is shielded in lead. If Islamists have such bombs, no doubt they are wrapped in lead.
Cort says that Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff does not have a plan in the event that these bombs are detonated. In such a scenario real deaths will come from radiation. If people know how to avoid radiation prior to an attack, there may be many survivors.
If people can devise a radiation-proof shelter in their own homes to survive a detonation, two days later radiation is one, one-hundredth the strength of the initial blast. If people can spend three days in the shelter and then only make brief trips outside once a day, they can defeat radiation. But what credible source has warned people of the potential threat and how they can meet it?
Is all of this just alarmist talk? Has Cort missed something important which would nullify his answers? I have no idea.
It seems more than reasonable that we proceed as if it is true. If it proves to be a false alarm, what have we lost? But if Cort’s research has merit and we are prepared to handle such a situation, we could minimize its terrible impact.
When I asked some U.S. officials why no one in the government is warning people, I was told “we don’t want to unduly alarm people.” Nonsense.
I have great faith that the American people will do the right thing if properly informed. We did in the mid-1950s when told that the Soviet Union could start a nuclear war. We can do so again, but someone with credibility must tell Americans the truth.
Old osama is pretty lively for a dead guy with no legs.
i live in berlin- merkel is somewhat of a rascist-the cdu helped hitler get in power-check your facts-so did prescott bush; george “moron” bush’s grandfather.
if you lived here you would know that merkel is against a multicultural society,is an east-beastie who was born in the east, fake -ass puppet-she is basicly useless when it comes to reforms.
nazi’s have marched through the brandenburget tor,so its an insult to a very frighteningly competent black man.
but he is speaking here in berlin today, its the 24th july and know what? 700,000 people are expected to come.
you lot who hate him are a disgrace to america and an insult to the word human being.bush is a war criminal and should be impeached.period.
I can hardly wait to see the documentary that McCain produced about Obama and Iraq.
McCain should be made an honorary PUMA.
Dear Lord I hope so. Obama’s cluelessness is truly, honestly, frightening.
I can’t emphasize enough how impressed I am (me=Republican) that you guys are America-first enough to keep up this thankless fight. It makes me very hopeful for the future even if I am not a Hillary fan.
Morgan, because we are One. When it comes to the Purple Land of America, the true grassroots will put their differences aside and will protect her. This man is an embarrassment to our country. And just like Chancellor Merkel’s spokesman Thomas Steg probably is speaking for their nation that it is unappropriate for someone to come to their land and preach and have big rallies. The curious people will come - but, this man is not thinking of his family. In America we protect our nominees, and oversea, he might encounter some angry jew or muslim or even a nazi that might harm him. He is not thinking straight!
soldierofChrist — I heard that someone from the Bush administration approached Merkel and said it was highly inappropriate for Obama to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. Then she told Obama no. He said he was looking for another venue. Is this back on again?
He should not even go- he is the presumptive nominee- wait until he is elected. He is on a ego trip.
hope so
Republicans and Democrats as well as Independents need to band together on a weekend soon across the country..call it hands across America and demand they stop this. We want no part of this.
We need to demand he resigns the race. NOW!
FED UP? JOIN THE FIGHT! Tell Washington to remove this candidate NOW!
It’s time for bo to QUIT!
This morgan is not me… I am a regular on here and a huge democrat and huge Hillary fan.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
by Ann Coulter
July 16, 2008
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, or as she is called on the Big Dogs blog, “the worst speaker in the history of Congress,” explained the cause of high oil prices back in 2006: “We have two oilmen in the White House. The logical follow-up from that is $3-a-gallon gasoline. It is no accident. It is a cause and effect. A cause and effect.”
Yes, that would explain why the price of oral sex, cigars and Hustler magazine skyrocketed during the Clinton years. Also, I note that Speaker Pelosi is a hotelier … and the price of a hotel room in New York is $1,000 a night! I think she might be onto something.
Is that why a barrel of oil costs mere pennies in all those other countries in the world that are not run by “oilmen”? Wait — it doesn’t cost pennies to them? That’s weird.
In response to the 2003 blackout throughout the Northeast U.S. and parts of Canada, Pelosi blamed: “President Bush and Rep. Tom DeLay’s oil-company interests.” The blackout was a failure of humans operating electric power; it had nothing to do with oil. And I’m not even “an oilman.”
But yes — good point: What a disaster having people in government who haven’t spent their entire lives in politics! That explains everything. A government official with relevant experience or knowledge about an issue is obviously a crisis of gargantuan proportions.
This must be why the Democrats are nominating B. Hussein Obama, who finished middle school three days ago and has less experience than a person one might choose at random from the audience of “American Idol.”
Announcing the Democrats’ bold new “plan” on energy last week, Pelosi said breaking into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve “is one alternative.” That’s not an energy plan. It’s using what we already have — much like “conservation,” which is also part of the Democrats’ plan.
Conservation, efficiency and using oil we hold in reserve for emergencies does not get us more energy. It’s as if we were running out of food and the Democrats were telling us: “Just eat a little less every day.” Great! We’ll die a little more slowly. That’s not what we call a “plan.” We need more energy, not a plan for a slower death.
But there’s more! Pelosi announced that the Democrats also plan to push for “an historic investment in biofuels, efficiency, conservation and the rest.” The “rest” is apparently what she called our “important and essential” investment in alternative energy.
That certainly would be historic: We would make history by throwing our money away on unproven energy boondoggles that have eaten up untold billions since the 1960s without producing a single net kilowatt of power while we all starve to death.
The proposal to use energy sources that don’t yet produce any energy is like the old New Yorker cartoon with Obama in Muslim garb — no wait, that was a different cartoon. The cartoon is: A scientist has written out his extremely complicated theory on a blackboard and is showing it to another scientist. The theory consists of numbers and characters and takes up the entire blackboard. About two-thirds of the way across, reading left to right, appear the words, “then a miracle happens,” followed by more numbers and characters.
That’s the Democrats’ plan to run cars on biofuels, solar and wind power: Then a miracle happens. The current Democratic mantra on energy is: “We can’t drill our way out of this problem.” Apparently their plan is to talk our way out of this problem.
Democrats are also alleging that the oil companies are sitting on millions of acres of oil but are refusing to drill — presumably because oil company executives hate the American people and perversely don’t want to make money. Manifestly, those acres are being explored for oil or have already come up dry.
If the Democrats really wanted oil companies to find more oil, they’d allow oil companies to drill offshore and to drill in ANWR, which we happen to know is bursting with oil.
But they don’t. They don’t want drilling. They don’t want more oil. They want humans to ride bicycles and then to die. We deserve it: We were mean to the polar bears.
It’s good to know that in the middle of a crisis, the Democrats are still liars. As long as we’re fantasizing about “alternative” energy sources, what we really need is a car that runs on Democrats’ lies.
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tish or whatever names you use. You are very tiresome. Please limit the length of your posts. I’m wearing out the wheel on my mouse scrolling past them.
I look at the name and past I go.
I doubt he would want to be associated with a rag bag bunch of bigots like PUMA. He has enough problems with Haggee and lobbyist associations.
WE’re not biggots, we are AMERICANS, WITH A VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE! WHER IS OBAMAS???? Obama doesn’t know “CRAP” IF HE would happen to win the ge.WE’d be living under a “DICTATORSHIP! NOOOOBAMA!!!!!
What do you think Obama would do as president that would constitute “dictatorship?” Anyone answer, please. I keep asking and nobody will answer.
Gee, I don’t know…. stealing elections. Forcing opponents off the ballot. Cancelling elections and conventions. Censorship. No one can criticize the Messiah. No one may make jokes about the Messiah. Doing so means being wrongfully labelled a racist (perheps even a terrorist). Total control of the media.
OH WAIT!!! That’s going on RIGHT NOW!
Forgot to add FISA!!! Big Brother is watching!
You just can’t tell what Obama will do. He has no principles. He could change his mind on anything at any time.
He so much as admitted he’s not Republican OR Democrat! (”I don’t subscribe to labels”~quote~Obama)That being so, he violated the RULES for being a nominee with the DNC!Damn..there goes my lunch break being peeved about this atrocity!
Hmm. Okay. Which opponent did he “force off” which ballot? Which elections did he “cancel,” and by what authority? Who calls him the Messiah other than PUMAs? Who has ever labeled any critic of Obama a “terrorist?” And in what sense does he have “control” over any aspect of the media?
None of your points are even remotely credible, sorry.
In his very first race in Illinois he forced Alice Palmer (his mentor and friend) and others off the ballot so that he could run unopposed. It was all suumed up as the way things are done in Chicago. If you want some horrific stories, learn more about oplitics in Chicago. Obama was brought up in them.
BTW, Alice Palmer stumped for Hillary.
Alice Palmer had a bunch of illegal signatures on her ballot petition. The law said she shouldn’t be allowed on the ballot. You want to call that dictatorship? Whatever. I notice no response whatsoever on any other point. I find the “Taking control of the media” particularly amusing, since the national media will predictably go insane every time there’s an anti-Obama story to tell. I mean, seriously — after a period of weeks in which the good Reverand Wright received more airtime on all cable news channels combined than any other story, you’re telling me Obama controls the media? Come on.
Of course you are not bigots - constantly claiming you are not racist, but continually raising “he may be a Muslim” or his birth certificate. I have not seen any demands for the birth certificate of John McCain from a PUMA type. McCain was not born on US soil after all.
Go have your little march. It will do Obama the world of good and will reveal you lot for exactly who you are.
Unions have picket lines, PUMA can have their bigot line.
As for forcing Alice Palmer off the ballot, I guess this is the same one who supports Obama, the same one who took her name off the ballot?
When you speak you sound like the whacked out false prophet in “The Life of Brian” who makes sense for a few seconds and then goes bizarre and then makes a little sense and then goes bizarre and so on…
The signatures were NOT illegal. Rather, eligible people had printed their names where they should have signed their names. It was like a hanging chad scenario. Further, if organizers had not been accredited all of their signed petitions became null and void, even if all of the proper procedures had been followed.
The point to take from this is that Obama used technicalities to win a democratic nomination, which ultimately went against the spirit of organizing and engaging the citizens of his community in the political process. If he followed the democratic spirit, he would have disregarded tiny technicalities such as printed names where signatures were required. He did not. In this case, winning was more important to Obama than doing the right thing.
Finally, all of the candidates that were eliminated by this tactic, believe to this day that what he did was morally wrong, even though some support him now.
I actually am just today reading the New Yorker article about Obama (with the offending cover, which I have to admit I find more amusing the more I look at it). It appears you’re right that Obama’s backers used their knowledge of insider Chicago politics to get Alice Palmer and some minor candidates knocked off the ballot. What you aren’t saying, though, and what I had no idea about, is the backstory of that campaign. Here’s how it went, according to Ryan Lizza (the author):
1. State Senator Alice Palmer decides to run for Congress and endorses Obama as her handpicked successor to take her seat.
2. Obama runs, wins all the major Chicago libera/black Democratic endorsements.
3. Palmer’s Congressional campaign flails, she realizes she is going to lose badly, changes her mind and her backers start pressuring Obama to step aside and abandon his campaign for the State Senate, which is already well underway.
4. Obama, obviously an extremely ambitious guy, says screw that, thus splitting the Democratic/black coalition between him and Palmer.
5. His backers can tell that her last minute campaign is going to be vulnerable to a petition challenge, and they take her out.
Ruthless? Sure, but so was Palmer’s last-minute decision to go after a seat she had already publicly ceded to Obama. Bottom line, the guy is is willing to be a street fighter to win. We need that on our side if we’re going to defeat the Republican machine. That same sort of toughness is what impressed so many people about HRC this year, by the way.
Anyway, Stephen, your notion that Obama did something ethically wrong here strikes me as considerably weaker now that I know the whole story.
That’s a lovely spin on the story. It is not quite as written, and the reality is more ruthless and backstabbing than the mild-mannered Ryan Lizza has portrayed it.
Just one little thing. Alice Palmer was a mentor for Obama. She held fundraisers for him during his first campaign. Every signiture on the petition was challenged. EVERY ONE! And she was a popular Black female state senator from the same district Obama ran for. It must have been hurtful for her, but I guess, that’s just politics as usual for Chicago and Obama.
Alice Palmer for starters. There are others.
He ruined their careers.
That is a ludicrous assertion about Alice Palmer. I just read the New Yorker piece so I know more about this (see my post above). She’s a big fan of his now and basically says that anyone who doesn’t like how the game is played in Chicago shouldn’t go into politics there. As I said above, I want a fighter on our side. All these notions of Obama as weak, effete, etc., are kind of funny when you actually read about him. He will take the Republicans on in a back alley if he has to and he will win.
that’s a nice spin, but not quite how it goes. She boarded the Obama train only after Hillary suspended.
Once Obama’s mentor, Alice Palmer now campaigns for Clinton
One bonus for Barack Obama as he campaigns in Indiana is that so many friends from his home state can just drive across the state line to help him out.
Then again, it’s also a short trip for the occasional hometown pol who has been doublecrossed by Obama, such as one featured guest doing the Hoosier tour today for Obama’s opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Joining Chelsea Clinton and other women to campaign for Hillary Clinton today is Alice Palmer. She’s the former state senator who picked Obama to be her successor back in the mid-90s.
When she tried to reclaim her spot, Obama got her booted from the ballot.
The day of campaigning culminates tonight with a “Women for Hillary” rally in New Albany. The women plan to talk about Clinton’s plans for the economy, job creation and the middle class.
Palmer’s story is more familiar in Chicago than it is in Indiana, even in the northwest section of Hoosierland that consumes so much of the Chicago news media. Still, the national press has shown an interest in the early account of Obama playing hardball, and Palmer’s presence may remind some of them of the story.
We’ll likely hear more about her — and them.
– Christi Parsons
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If you thought Barky had a chance in hell you wouldn’t be here. Nice try though.
sfhillary, doesn’t that also mean he is just another politician, interested in nothing more than furthering his career? I don’t know Ms. Palmer, but she said approximately the same thing Rev. Wright said in his National Press Club speech. If you believed what so many in the media and his supporters say, the principle reason to vote for him would be his promise of a different kind of politics. Rev. Wright was a friend and spiritual advisor for many years. Who would know him better outside his own family? In fact, his family doesn’t know much about him. He lived outside the country for the first ten years of his life and his father is not an American citizen. He is the first presidential candidate in over two hundred years to have a parent not born in this country. We knew where Bush, Kerry and Gore finished in college and their grades. There was no question who their parents were and their citizenship status. When he released his book “Dreams of My Father” is was not successful and when he released it the second time in 2004, it had been revised. He misrepresented the nature of his relationship with Rezko and possibly Bill Ayers. He denied hearing Rev. Wright make controversial remarks and corrected himself in his Pa. speech. The point is, how can you not question and want to know the truth and all of it before he becomes POTUS? American people have a right to question any politician. The politician has a choice about his response, unfortunately, when he/she won’t answer questions directly, it is human nature to become suspicious.
And setting up a national police force to terrorize AMericans. He’s a fucking nazi.
Another comparison of Obama with Nazis. You following along, Stephen?
When people are concerned about totalitarian practises they normally refer to the examples they know. We tend to know the Nazis and the “bolsheviks”, so we use them. If we knew more about Albania we’d be comparing his moves with Enver Hoxha. I think the Nazis are a more useful analog because a republic transformed into a dictatorship.
1) Issue executive orders and assert Article II takes precedence over Article I.
2) Have the justice department interfere with on going investigations in to Chicago politics. You recall Ata was told by Rezko that Fitzgerald “would be taken care of”…Now who ha the power to make that happen?
3) Immoral, greedy and indifferent people seek control in anyway they can. If you vote for the immoral fool you will find out how fast your write to privacy will be violated.
How is FISA working for you? Got Habeas. OIl will be at 200, BO is bought and paid for by the Nuke industry….has know idea what the Constituion says or means.
Immoral, greedy and indifferent is the person you are voting for. I asked you on another thread how you can do this? No answer eh?
Just think, all of American can look like the slums in Chicago, a once great and beautiful city.
Did you hear that daley wants to let a casino open on historic Navy Pier? That’s why they are moving the Children’s Museum.
“Immoral, greedy and indifferent” are just words. Back them up. What in his entire career has been immoral? when has he been greedy? He is, to my knowledge, the least wealthy presidential candidate in a very long time. And indifferent to whom? As for my “write to privacy” — I obviously hate the vote Obama made on FISA, but I still consider him a much better bet to defend the Constitution than McCain, who is a complete joke on these issues — a Bush clone.
And if Obama is pro-nuclear power (which in my opinion he should be), why would that raise oil prices? That makes no sense.
sfhillary, I’m responding to a comment made by someone else and I’ll take a pass on the first two since I have no knowledge there. I will agree with the original comment on indifferent. Statements by those who worked with him in the Community Center in Chicago pretty much confirm this view. There isn’t a mathematical equation for indifference and people may see different things in his attitudes. Some, me included, are unnerved by the speed of his transference from a state senate to presidential candidate. We are less likely to accept his explanation of his vote for the new FISA since we have been writing senators and congressmen and the media to protest this violation of our rights from the time the truth came out about Bush circumventing the court system. It also disturbs me he contradicted himself with this vote which, as with too many other things, he made a statement of strong opposition in the beginning. He either changed his mind (why) or he never intended to vote in opposition to begin with. Now, while this in no way justifies a comparison to the Nazi Reich, many people have made that comparison to Bush based on his opinions of the Court. Civil liberties and separation of church and state don’t change overnight. It’s a steady erosion. We have had eight years to witness an alarming perversion of the constitution and what’s been lost, is hard to retrieve.
Immoral, greedy and indifferent” are just words.
No they are not, They are describing BO’s whole political career.
Immoral is to profit from the misery of the poor and then claim ignorance.
Greedy is pandering for dollars, we don’t need the people we need the checks.
Indifference, ? Take yor pick, You have to ask?
Invesatment dollars in the energy sector are finite. More investment in nuke plants means less investment in oil and gas development.
You need to get out of the Hieght more often.
i don’t think you’re doing your cause any favors here, donna. dictatorship? come on.
In what direction do you think Obama’s yes vote to FISA moves the country towards? Liberal democracy or dictatorship? Come on.
Maybe someone should send him a picture of the hanging of Saddam to remind him what happens to dictators.
you’re a sick fuck.
Take back you country! STAND UP! FIGHT THIS MAN!
FIGHT BACK! GET RID OF APATHY. ALL PARTIES FIGHT BACK BEFORE WE FALL AND BURN.
Why do all you BOTS want to mention Bigotry? I don’t have a problem with skin color, if someone like Harold Ford was in Obama’s position he would have my support. Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Father Mike,Obama’s PLO friends. Why doesn’t Obama even mention being the Chairman of the ANNERBERG CHALLANGE GRANT in Chicago, they had $110 million to improve education without positive results.
NoBigotry How dare you call PUMA a ragbag bunch of bigots? You support a guy who wants the whole world to sing his praises but who is afraid to debate McCain. What does that make you?
STUPID…..
Obama will have plenty of debates with McCain. I look forward to them. McCain can’t keep even the most basic facts straight about most policy issues, even the few on which he is supposed to be expert. I don’t anticipate him acquitting himself well in debates.
Then why uuhhh….uuhhmmm….is Obama afraid of town halls? Not scripted enough? Too many of the “little people” might ask questions? So many questions tire Obama out?
Look forward to Hillary debating MC Cain
In your dreams. Or maybe in the Senate.
Perhaps as VP. Although I think she would make a likeable enough Assistant in Health, run by Elizabeth Edwards.
In fact - she could help set up a call centre for health and answer the calls at 3 AM
oH PSHAWWWW
divert the real problem (Obama) onto McCain
Stop projecting!!!!!!!!
Get real. Obama has turned down town-hall format.
He’s scared silly.
Who are you sfhillary? Are you part of Obama campaign? You seem to want so much info from us and what we believe so that you can find a strategy to deny it.
I’m a typical upscale, highly intelligent, highly informed, middle-aged family man progressive liberal white Democrat who will enthusiastically vote for Obama, would have (also enthusiastically) voted for HRC if she had won the nomination, and in general thinks it is absolutely imperative that a Democrat win the White House this fall to get our government out of the hands of the criminals who currently occupy the White House. Given the depradations of the last eight years of Bush, and McCain’s promise to extend most of what Bush has done, I find it utterly bizarre that any thinking American who cares about the Constitution would even consider not voting for the Democratic nominee. And I find the PUMAs’ justifications for hating Obama — the primary controversies, Rev. Wright, his policy changes, his relative lack of experience — utterly trivial compared to McCain’s promise to extend the Iraq War, make the Bush tax cuts for rich people (like me) permanent, appoint strict-constructionist Supreme Court judges, etc etc etc.
But no, I have no direct affiliation with the Obama campaign. I do know a few people who are involved with it, though. And no, they do not have horns or drink the blood of newborns.
A bracackalatte!!!!!!!!!!
Yes I believe you could find a way to justify– NO Experience but what the hey each his own.
You ran away yesterday and maybe didn’t hear that we are for
Stop the hate!
No OBush 08
Ooops I meant:
barackalatte! My apologies to Starbucks.
Your comment is trivial. Obama is merely the black version of Bush. HRC or McCain
Given what you posted.
A question.
How can you vote for a person that profited directly from the misery of others in the 313 he was elected to represent and 1) Ignored their plight, 2) lied about knowing about the conditions they were were living in. 3) was told by Toni P. that CPD had contacted her for help and Rezko was walking away from it.
BO had full knowledge about this and lied to the the American people about it when interviewed by the Suntimes and the Chicago Trib.
How to you vote for a greedy, immoral and indifferent person for POTUS, much less a dog catcher?
ANSWER ME! No OBORG has ever been able to.
Oh brother.
Relative to what? A kindergarten kid?
Well, you somehow missed the entire point of PUMA.
Lordy.
You are no better than the Bushbots that got Bush elected even when they knew he was an ass. Party before country. You are a weak minded individual and a follower. How sad to be you.
The first time Obama participated in a debate not moderated by someone on the tank for him, he was miserable. Remember the Republican debates and how McCain moved from underdog to winner? Don’t underestimate McCain in a debate. He is a good debater.
Obama may skate through without any real challenge OTHER than the ABC debate.
That’s a real possibility.
Gosh, you really are a [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR for VULGARITY AND CRUELTY] Thanks.
I agree with NoBigotry. Any complaint about the Chosen One is both bigoted and blasphemous.
Thank heaven’s Bill Gaston said the obvious. This is yet another Obama gaffe, right up there with the presidential seal!
The great Uniter Guy strikes again! Only this time, he is dividing Germany instead of the U.S.
I wonder which country is next on his agenda?
Kenya? Parkistan? Wait .. my mistake he already screwed with them.
How about a rally on the temple mount. But who would he get permission from Jews or Arabs? Wait, never mind, which ever one would give him permission. Then a shoulder brush and gesture to the other one.
In the capital of Israel: Jeruselum.
(I still can’t get over that one!)
Parkistan?? Where is that?
Do you mean Pakistan? Do you even know where that is?
Ray at Chicagoans against Obama has a suggestion:
http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Our soon to be indicted…. Governor/Obama political mentor/Tony Rezko Associate……….Rod Blagojevich….stated yesterday that “Chicago is Out of Control”….he also stated that he’s talking to the Illinois State Police and the National Guard to see if they can help (full article HERE)
Since June 26, there has been a child shot nearly every day……also, 29 Chicago Public School students have been shot since last fall.
The epicenter of this violence…..is the community that Barack Obama “organized”…the South Side of Chicago…….
Since Barry has absolutely zero foreign policy/military experience…..and he clearly has no clue what the hell he is talking about in regards to the conflicts in the Middle East……….
Maybe he should delay his superficial dog and pony show overseas…..and instead take his bandwagon riding media friends to his hometown………where he can bring some attention to the out of control violence, murder, and warfare that is happening……right here…… in the state, and city, he represents…….Chicago, Illinois……
what a great idea!
thanks for posting that!
i think this subject deserves its own new thread here on noquarter…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
What does Obama care? In 1995 while Obama was a Community Organizer 700 old and sick people died in his district because of a heat wave in Chicago. There was no way he couldn’t have known about this. It was on tv everyday. Finally they took out the bodies in a big moving truck. Obama could have called on those those people or gotten them to shelters or stores where they might have have survived but he was probably glad handing the rich while the poor and old died.
Love the cartoon, only I think Obama should be wearing Lederhosen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EzPkqt2Rk&feature=related
Well, he’s caused nothing but division in this country. Why not everyone else’s country?
LOL*……true.
Canada first. Now Germany!
By the time he’s done, Berlin will be rebuilding the wall. What a pompous ass.
Racism is still alive in der fatherland. Chancellor Merkel’s is a racist. No problem for Kennedy to speak there, no problem for Reagan to speak there, but a black man. No way. They still believe in the Master Race. Pull our troops out of Germany and let them deal with Russia alone. We don’t need Germany’s permission to elect Obama
Oh james…..that’s ridiculous. You really need to stop playing that race card.
It’s becoming more offensive than any other tactic used by Obamamaniacs.
I knew that one would be coming down the pike.
LMAO!!!
Keep up the satire James, I was having a bad day until you brightened it with your comedy.
Then why do you morons keep reminding us all that Obama has a 85% approval rating in Germany?
If you knew anything about Germany (which you obviously don’t) they have been bending over backwards since WWII to prove how “not racist” they are — in everything from their constitution to their diplomacy (which, btw, is the ONLY reason Obama has such a high approval rating there, imo). Going overboard on the “not racist” stuff is the problem in Germany right now, not racism. Stick to topics you *might* know a little something about next time, ‘kay.
I think it is all media hype. This is an article from a german newspaper:
http://www.tinyurl.com/58fuow
This article was dated the 15th July
lol*……meaning that Obamacamp is screwing up Berlin, too?
Imagine that!
He’s not wanting to resolve this?
Perhaps the German officials just weren’t “listening” to Obama when he made the request. It’s not his fault they weren’t “listening”
We can all remember what great taste they have in leaders.
Shuck, the Germans went so Equal Opportunity that the Kraut whores stopped charging the Soul Brother Premium for their work. Now AA soldiers get their jollies for the same price as Crackers.
No, nobody on this site is bigoted at all. lol
And you AREN’t an IDIOT like your fearful leader, too!
Angie, Mr Obama is not the nominee of the Democratic Party and he is not president. Why is he going to Europe? Why are the major news anchors following him there? Instead of repeating today’s talking points, you might like to ask yourself why he is not addressing issues here in this country. If he wants to take a vacation, he should do it later. So I ask again. Why is he going?
Don’t feed the trolls.Their talking points are not supposed to make sense. They are here to distract you from the reality of this idiot.
Idiot. I do believe Kennedy and Reagan were already President when they spoke at the gate. You clowns should have listened to your mothers and stayed in school.
At least through eigthth grade.
where I learned to type. egad!
You are the Racist James.
The were elected FOOL!!!
your an idiot ,why tell me oh gifted one should american politics be played out in a foregin country.never have i seen such arrogance to presume that he has the same rights as a elected president,oh thats right he is a lightwarrior he doesnt need to be elected.going on a meet and greet is one thing ,holding adulation events is another.maybe he should try and hold a rally like this in israel and see how well it comes off.yea he could do it in front of the temple mount.
Lightwarrior hell. He’s a shapeshifter.
Gee, no other obvious difference? Like maybe they were presidents?
“Racism is still alive in der fatherland. Chancellor Merkel’s is a racist. No problem for Kennedy to speak there, no problem for Reagan to speak there, but a black man.”
Oh, SHUT UP!!!
Kennedy and Reagan were PRESIDENTS. OBAMA IS NOT A PRESIDENT.
James, you seem to have missed the main point. Our other leaders were already elected to their positions. Last time I checked, Obama has not had a single delegate vote cast for him, meaning he isn’t even the candidate let alone elected!
Isn’t it sad that because backtrack barack has no class and is low class and has no experience in making anything better everyone who opposes him is labled racist.
Are the people in the apartment buildings that razko bought with federal money channeled by backtrack barack that had no heat in winter racist?
Are the people who oppose the fisa bill that backtrack barack caved in on racist.
DID YOU EVER THINK THAT MAYBE THEY LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND WANT THE BEST FOR AMERICA AND HE IS NOT THE BEST?
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
James Andrew That is perhaps the dumbest posting I have ever read. It’s a joke isn’t it.
Don’t feed the trolls.Their talking points are not supposed to make sense. They are here to distract you from the reality of this idiot.
Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton were Presidents not wanabees. Please start reading some history….
that is BS. People who understand this is inappropriate are not racists, you idiot. Only heads of state get to go there. Not presumptious pompous ego maniacs like obama.
you see race in everything, don’t you? doesn’t that make you a racist?
I have given up on that one. I really no longer care what they think.
It’s instructive for personal life, however, since I think a lot of people take pleasure in feeling superior on this issue who are voting for Obama. They are, indeed, smug and self-riteous.
So for me? Politics is off the table in polite company. I’m not going there in real life. I have no masochistic urge to experience being judged unfairly any more.
I’ll just quietly vote. Race is not a factor in my book for Obama’s candidacy. His playing the race card is very much a factor. If that defines me as racist, so be it. But I think he’s crazy-making. He has shut down a lot of what we had accomplished with race relations.
Yesterday I rode my local bus. It was fun and filled with comfortable relations among the top minority groups in my area. I prefer to look at that and see progress in America.
The Latino kids were hanging with the bi-racial kids. The Asians were apart but friendly. The Latino young mothers with babies were all very much smiling and comfortable in their own skin.
It was a healthy experience that I’m glad I did, because the generalities made about race relationships on the net aren’t truly reflective of what’s going on in America.
The areas in LA where we have trouble are poverty-riddled. That IS the chief problem. Not race, really. In prison we have race problems. There again, that’s a mean environment.
Our issue is poverty, education, and that is exactly what Jesse Jackson was saying. Jesse was right on the nose. How Jesse said it renders him mute now.
Too bad. We need some realistic AA voices to combat Obama’s race card stuff, which is tearing this country apart.
They were already Presidents my dear!
I’m by no means a fan of Reagan, but the office does come with a certain amount of respect and protocol.
I was waiting for your ilk to throw Angela under the bus by making the remark about Germany! You’ve all become so typical by now it’s really quite amusing.
I suppose you think it’s fitting to give The Precious a venue in St. Peter’s Square alongside the Pope as well!
Can’t you folks wait until the honor is earned????
They were Presidents you imbecile. NOT CANDIDATES. What part of that don’t you understand, PEA BRAIN!!
Some one needs to cut this one off, obviously there has been a serious koolaide overdose. How can you pretend to be educated and not understand the difference between a presumptive nominee and an elected head of state? Racism is the call of the Obamaphile when confronted with the fact that there are serious problems in this persons understanding of life and of the law.
It’s frustrating, yet gratifying to exchange barbs with these folks with “pea-pod” brains; but there is a bigger and more frightening reality. BO, the narcissistic egomaniac has already tasted “power”, like a shark tastes blood. He will do ANYTHING to win, so so while trading barbs may be appeasing, we should be ready to do ALL that is legal to prevent this from happening.
They were Presidents you imbecile. NOT CANDIDATES. What part of that don’t you understand, PEA BRAIN!! Or are you a broken record. …racism…racism….racism….racism….racism….racism…
LMAO!! Sister Mary James Andrew, you are So Camp!!!
james andrews — not everything has to do with race. Its called having the good sense to realize that you are a candidate and that other nations do not want to get involved in our politics.
Those other people you mentioned were Presidents when the spoke in Germany — not presumptive nominees.
seriously, this is dumb. what evidence is there that merkel is racist?
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? Obama this Obama that! I freaking FURIOUS. We are about to fight to damn wars almost and spread thin as hell and all you people damn care about is OBAMA! Someone is doing OBAMA wrong! There racist towards OBAMA! Damn can you think about anyone else in this country?
This is the reason why we are in these situations. Because ignorant ass people care more about a damn candidate than this country. He can fucking go to Germany and speak outside a damn wall but he cant go to one of the communities outside of Fort Hood to speak to military and veteran groups that are sponsoring it?
Unbelievable. Unfuckingbelievable.
Someone, Anyone jump out and tell me I am on “Scare Tactics” or getting “Punk’d” because the Democratic Party cannot be this fucking stupid. They cannot be this fucking stupid. This asshole is trying to be CIC and wont even come to our communities but will run off to another country?
This is the shit I am talking about. How are you going to place another country before or make it more important than your own people? I swear daily I start feeling as if this party actually does not give a flying fuck about its military. Its like taking the neighbors kids to disney world and leaving yours at home.
The Democratic party has sold us out and kicked us to the curb for this. He cant attend any townhalls and focus on the issues when people are living from hand to mouth. But run around playing president with people calling him president on tv. This is not a damn joke or a game. I am fully 100 percent convinced the Democrats have lost there minds and do not want a majority in anything.
No way. I do not see how anyone can win after they use the words and actions of so many of them to show exactly how much they care about this country.
They cannot fix this. This is way beyond and above making Senator Clinton VP to appease the party. They have officially went up shit creek without a paddle. They can raise money to the cows come home and the chickens come home to roost, no amount of ads from now until november will mean a difference.
More soldiers are going to Afghanistan.Point blank. And this muthf&!**r took away the chance for them to ask questions that everyone else had a chance to do. Wanting to know where he stands IF he became president in regards to issues that affect our community. But he can go give a speech in Germany.
Amazing. What are they doing? They are slowly but surely digging a hole they will not get out of. During a time like this, he should of went. The Democratic Party is going to be painted as unpatriotic elitist with the god da** ame*rica sound byte with Michelle in the background saying “for the first time” comment with a picture of his ass in Germany giving the speech.
There are two installations, one in which is the largest that when movement is made they are the first ones to go Fort Hood & Fort Bragg. Your candidate fucking declined going to Fort Hood. Way to go Democrats great way to get elected. I am sure those “burning” questions they wanted answers to and assurance can be given once they come back. On a scale to 1-10: 50
I’m with you soldier. It’s time to get so stinking mad that we mobilze NOW! No more time for shining this on. This is no longer funny.
This is the country that Obama DOESN’T LIKE, He is quite embarrassed by the AMERICANS that go to Europe and can only speak english, those europeans come over here, they speak German, french and english too. Wake up folks! Everyone Obama is close to hates America too, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn bombed the PENTAGON, his 2 spirtual Advisors, Rev. God Damn America Wright and Father Mike have issues too. Even his wife hates this place, this country has never treated her right, even made her re-pay her student loans.
Do they speak hip hop in Germany? Because as far as I know English and HIP HOP Are the only languages he knows.
Of course PUMA types are not bigots.
Actually not, speaking hip hop is what he does.
and christ, the guy is 48 years old. Old enough to be a grampa. He isn’t a 16 yr old on the streets. It’s unseemly.
and by the way asshat, I’m not a puma.
…and let the people say amen.
McCain might be old and some of his policies are not in keeping with mine but he would not disrespect the military in this fashion.
It will not play well. This coupled with the big invesco stadium acceptance speech…it will not set well with the american people.
PUMA
That’s just plain stupid. You remember the story of the boy who cried wolf? That’s all you bigoted, black-racist assholes bring to the table.
The AA elders who fought for civil rights in Selma, are literally crying because of how Obama and his teen thugs set race relations back 40 years..stop it!
DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.
Kennedy and Reagan spoke, because THEY WERE PRESIDENTS. It had nothing to do with race. Obama is not A PRESIDENT. Stop trying to turn the whole world into racists. We’re sick of it!
And did Kennedy and Reagan speak because they were INVITED to speak there, perhaps??? There’s a big difference between being invited to speak there because you’re the president, and demanding to speak there so you can hold an American election rally. What the hell is he gonna do? Tell all the Germans to get green cards by November so they can come to America and vote for him??!! I guess he doesn’t have any other choice. It’s not like any Americans will be voting for him!
Kennedy and Reagan were both PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES when they spoke there, I think that might make a difference, Obama is just a lying crook from chicago.
I’m black and I lived in Germany for several years.
I was always treated with respect. Are there some racist Germans? I’m sure there are although I never met them. I had local Germans visit my home, eat at my table, and never a harsh word was exchanged.
The government at the time was the same party as Merkel. Christian Democrats. They did not and do not tolerate racism, Nazis, or any other forms of discrimination.
It’s against the law.
This isn’t about race it’s about diplomacy. If the German government appears to favor one candidate over another there could be a backlash in the European community. It may damage future German/American relations.
But thinking about these things requires skill, experience, and finesse.
I’m guessing these are not Obama’s strong suits.
Why do posters on this blog just down right lie? The Chancellor of Germany asked Senator Obama to speak @ the Brandenburg Gate. He has not made a decision to speak there because the citizens were upset. Get the fact straight instead of just out right lying about things. It really doesn’t give this blog any creditability.
*eek*
You’re very confused.
No, actually, I am stating a fact. Something that eludes the people on this blog. Seems to me, if this blog is trying to enlighten people I would use facts instead of taking a piece of a story and flipping it into a complete lie. Ridiculous and shameful.
Prove your “fact”.
That may be MO trolling. Ya think?
Yvonne C. is not profane or crude enough to be Michelle.
again show me the news story and the link that merkle said it was okay for barky to speek at the gate.just because you say its a fact doesnt make it a fact,show the source!
The mayor invited him, hon. The chancellor publicly said that it was a bad idea.
You can read the articles by clicking the links above.
No biggee…..you just have your public figures mixed up.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/uselection,,will-obama-speak-at-brandenburg-gate,34544
Please look @ the link. Here’s the proof. Like I said, get your facts straight first. Obama can’t just go speak @ the gate without being asked and getting approval. This is not a trip to the park “hon”.
Your wrote:
Why do posters on this blog just down right lie? The Chancellor of Germany asked Senator Obama to speak @ the Brandenburg Gate.
Did you read your link?
I think AnninCA was being charitable calling you confused.
They sure are hard to be nice to, aren’t they?
LOL*
ah well….
I just was trying to not be mean. I save that for ummmmmmmm since he/she has such a potty mouth!
Yes Ann, you are always polite no matter how rude these trolls get. By the way, I remember you said you were going to the beach tomorrow. I was just visiting Santa Monica beach yesterday and the day before and it was gorgeous!
The Chancellor of Germany asked Senator Obama to speak @ the Brandenburg Gate.
Read your article you use for proof and all it proves is you are a liar, it never says a thing about the Chancellor asking Oburpy to speak at the Gate, just in your troll mind!
So before you accuse, abuse yourself because you are stupid!
“What are words for, when no one listens anymore?”
When King Obama is crowned, all Mayors will be Chancellors, and vice versa, by Royal Obamaniac Decree.
The Mayor of Berlin’s office has indicated that Obama might be invited to give a symbolic speech in front of the Brandenburg Gate.
You DO know that the Mayor of Berlin is not the chancellor of Germany.
Please say you know that much.
they don’t know the difference. You bamites should really have a dictionary next to your list of what to say.
Obviously the poster was wrong to say that the Chancellor invited Obama. She did not. But it does appear that the Mayor of Berlin caused this little tempest by saying that Obama “might be invited.” In the PUMA mind, of course, this translates to “Obama caused this problem.” But then again, everything translates to “Obama is horrible” in the PUMA mind.
For the record, I’m not a PUMA. I’ve been a registered Independent voter for several years now. However, I fail to see how your arguments are different from there’s. In your mind, isn’t John McCain horrible? In your mind, aren’t all PUMAs horrible?
This country has been deeply divided by this election, and it’s not because half of us (or 43% if you believe the polls) are racists. It’s because we’re not going to entrust the leadership of our country to someone we don’t know squat about and can’t have faith in practically anything he says, because he’ll turn around and change his mind tomorrow. And I’m not going to list his flip flops for you, because you know them as well as I do. You just want to turn a blind eye to them, because you think that even a one-eyed dog would be a better President than a Republican.
Yes, you are right. I’m not absolutely sure about how Obama would govern, but I am indeed 100% certain that he’d be better than John McCain, who has explicitly promised to continue most of Bush’s most horrendous policies.
I don’t “hate” PUMAs. But I do think they are deeply misguided on a political level and driven by an addiction to shared hatred of a public figure on a psychological level, which is kind of sad and disturbing.
soldier…lol…true true
So the Mayor just woke up one day and decided to maybe invite Obama. These things take time, planning, and negotiation.
Someone had to ask for the invite or at least send out feelers.
If you ever lived overseas you might know that.
I wish you’d make up your mind, what little remains. One minute we’re pumas and the next we’re republicans.BTW, not all on this site are pumas.
Might being the operative word. I might grow 5 more inches and not be 5 ft tall anymore.
From your article:
“The Mayor of Berlin’s office has indicated that Obama might be invited to give a symbolic speech in front of the Brandenburg Gate, whose chariot of victory overlooked the Berlin Wall and the celebrations that accompanied its fall in 1989.
But the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, has made it clear that she does not wish the Democrat to be shown any favouritism over his Republican rival John McCain before the presidential election in November.
Now, you can apologize anytime and in any fashion that suits you.
Or just slink away embarassed.
Obama’s confusion over foreign policy apparently has taken hold of his trolls as well.
My snark for the day here:
This is the “High-INformation” voter who backs Obama?
Lordy!
I was appalled at how many very uninformed non-readers took delight in identifying with the statistics in the primaries.
They made me blush for them. They didn’t realize they aren’t a part of the group.
hey sweetie, what did you change your name to now that you’ve been schooled?
Prove it
Citation, please.
Yvonne C. is stupid. Oh, she’s gone now with that egg all over her face. Ha ha! stupid fucking O-bots.
How do you know it is a “fact”? Were you a fly on the wall when she invited him?
Or did someone else tell you?
Your lack of knowledge is nothing short of astounding. With Idiots like you supporting Obama , no wonder America is in trouble.
The warning from the Chancellery was clear: The Brandenburg Gate is the “most famous and history-rich location in Germany,” a Chancellery source said on Monday. In the past, it has only been used on very special occasions for addresses by politicians, and when, then only by elected American presidents. More clearly stated: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would be better off looking for another location in the German capital to hold a speech.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,564635,00.html
How about the camp his uncle liberated?
Auchwitz? LOL yeah, sure.. tell us another lie Obama you f’in creep. Damned incompetent boob!
Hey, how did the nascar thing work out for him?
please show me the news article and link where merkle says that its okay for him to have a ralley at the gate.either that or get your facts right.
Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills.
http://www.thelocal.de/12975/20080709/
speech at Brandenburg Gate
Published: 9 Jul 08 16:03 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/12975/
“German Chancellor Angela Merkel has expressed misgivings about US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama speaking in front of Berlin’s famed Brandenburg Gate.
Merkel doesn’t think the US election battle should be played out in front of the gate, and said she viewed the possibility of Obama culminating his July 24 visit to Berlin at the famous landmark with “certain displeasure,” government spokesperson Thomas Steg said on Wednesday.
The decision as to whether Obama will be allowed to give a speech before the iconic monument lies with the city senate. In the past, only elected US presidents have been allowed to use the Brandenburg Gate for their addresses.
Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier, on the other hand, doesn’t see a problem with allowing Obama the use of Pariser Platz, his spokesperson Jens Plötner said Wednesday.
But the question of where Obama might give a speech on his campaign stop in Berlin is causing tension between Merkel and Berlin’s Mayor Wowereit, who said on Tuesday he would be happy to see Obama speak at the Brandenburg Gate. Some politicians and journalists have accused Wowereit of having selfish reasons for encouraging Berlin senate approval of the speech, though.”
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“While the German government waits on the Berlin senate vote, they have offered a potential compromise: Obama will be allowed to walk through the Brandenburg Gate.”
The chancellor is Madam Merkel. She did NOT ask the ass to speak there.
Not correct, Yvonne. Merkel did not invite him. She does not want him to speak before The Gate. She will be gracious if it happens, but she did not have a say in the outcome. Read up.
Madam Merkel is upset over this. Now Condi has to go to Germany to smooth this out again..to stop this boob Obama,
Sending Condi? Oh, great! She LOVES Obambi!
She hates Obullshit. He called Condi a RACIST to!
Yvonne…Oh THANK you so much for your FIRST HAND INFORMATION. PLEASE KEEP UP DUMMIES POSTED ON YOUR NEXT STAFF MEETING…WITH THE OBAMA STAFF….
you are wrong, troll. you need to read something other than koolaid packages.
did you not read the article here?
Obama already is causing a problem with our allies and practicing his divisive politics. Maybe when he goes there the world will see what he has been subjecting America to.
he is going to lose this election big time.
Yvonne — Merkel did not ask Obama to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. YOU ARE WRONG
Please show facts from a reputable source that said the Chancellor asked Obama to speak at the Brandenburg gate.
Related foreign news from a day or so ago…
Breaking: Tory Leader David Cameron “Hearts” Obama, Talks about “Progessive Goals” Achieved by “Conservative Means”
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5uouh8
The comments from Cameron about progressive goals/conservative means are especially interesting…and I think they apply to Obama!
Who gives a Fiddlers F*** what David Cameron thinks.
Clinton, Obama and McCain have met with Cameron, given that he is likely to be UK Prime Minister soon.
However as most of you have never left the US it is unlikely you knew that.
I do suspect that is what we will be hearing from Obama.
Since he has been tacking to the right for the religious voters.
I can’t wait for this bastard to lose in a landslide. Everything about him is so distasteful.
Oh god, he is so ignorant that is just drives me crazy to know that he could be my president!! Can some one please have him to take politics 101 summer crash course in some community college in Chicago?
Will Barcrack wear a flag lapel pin on his world tour?
No, he’ll have a cloisonne “Unity Unicorn” pin.
Yes, but which countries flag?
I think the most hypocrtical thing he has done was wearing the American flag and the Israeli flag intertwined as a lapel pin when he talked to a Jewish group. He’ll do anything. he’s that low.
Clearly, the “smart” thing for Obama to do would be to forget about the Brandenburg Gate speech
after seeing the controversy it’s created.
Oh-key word “smart”..never mind..
LOL
CAT — Obama is not smart — Obama wants the world to love him as much as he loves himself. NOW THATS IMPOSSIBLE
I think you’re right about this, and therefore I think it is unlikely that Obama will push for that location. It will be announced quite soon, and I’ll bet you’ll see him choose a more neutral location. You see, you PUMAs think Obama is stupid, ignorant and politically tone deaf, but you’re dead wrong — he’s highly intelligent and politically brilliant. You’ll see — his Berlin announcement will instantly defuse this issue, UNLESS his people have been working behind the scenes with the Germans to make the Brandenburg Gate location work. It is certainly a highly evocative location that would highlight Obama’s gift for public speaking in a very potent way; I’d love to see him pull it off. But from what I’ve read, it’s now highly unlikely.
I suggest you reread solier4Hillary’s post again.
You just don’t get it do you?
These moronic obama trolls remind me of the scene in Animal House where the evil fraternity house pledges bend over and ask the brothers if they can have another. I think all obama supporters enjoy having prostrate exams.
So you are advocating another Obama flip-flop.
What’s that man doing? Trying out for the U. S. Olympic Flip-flop team?
Politically Brilliant? Any f’n cheating lying thug who games the system is not Brilliant. Just arrogant and stupid to take advantage of the rules. That’s like telling our kids that if you lie and cheat you can have anything you want and be called brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No following the rules is what you are supposed to do. That is a good role model to follow. A bad role model would be following someone whose campaign team had a majority on the committee that wrote the rules, signed a pledge to say that they would follow those rules and then demands after they lost that the rules are changed.
Maybe some of that old wall will fall on his head and knock some sense into him and he will realize how crooked he is.
Nah, just a day dream. He is to deep into his marxist believe system.
Well it was a good thought anyway!!!
Oh yes, James please stop with the racist BS. Those men you spoke of in your post were presidents of the US. Not wannebes like the lord obama. If he is elected as prez then he can go to any wall in the world and speak. But he hasn’t been elected yet. Thank God. Oh and that thanks is not ment for lord obama. He is not my God.
name a single policy prescription of obama’s that is marxist.
I think that’s due to his methods, not his policies.
Marxists were actually very conservative, too, in policies. It was their methods that were Draconian.
Marxist policies were conservative? You mean, like collectivizing agriculture, banning private property and nationalizing all industries? LOL. Come on, Ann, you’re smarter than that.
Obama loves the markets and want his national security force to boot. Brown shirts in a capitalist economy is called fascism.
Obama wants a “national security force?” What does that mean? And how can he be fascist if he’s a Communist? Or has he moved from being a Commie to a Fascist this week? LOL.
you can be draconian and fascistic without being marxist. even assuming your arguments about him are legit, you still have no basis for calling him marxist. you just have a small vocabulary. and/or you think that idiot that spews the “black liberation theology marxist” shit is worth repeating for some reason.
How about his civilian security force to start.We already have local police forces and state police forces.
Marxism contains socialism so you would include the spreading around of the wealth(ie. his tax paln) and the socializing of healthcare. (Heck the gov’t can not even handle Medicare how in the world will they handle healthcare for the US citizens and the illegals.) Making statements like “the rich don’t need all they have so raising taxes on them will not hurt”. (Stop for a moment,I am not rich so do no let that stick in your mind.) Socialism, Marxism and communism are fairly close relatives.
You go first. I’m sure you know becuase he isn’t disclosing his true intent ot us yet. He pretends he has Hillary policy and then pretends he has McCains policy just to HIDE HIS TRUE F”N intent!
Bistard.
Yvonne C…. Have you checked your talking points yet. You were wrong,just admit it.
She chose Option B. Slink away.
Yvonne will reappear in another name. *haha
how do you spell a r r o g a n c e again????
you spell it barack hussien obama!!
Sorry, just had to do it.
it’s e-i-n.
Thanks for the spelling correction. I really should take a typing class.
I think Obama wants to one-up Bush’s neck rub.
I feel another fist bump coming up. Oh so presidential.
It’s now called a terrorist fist jab.
I hope he doesn’t grab her butt.
He’ll just take long glances at it…like he does Hillary.
Thursday, July 17, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports
Thursday shows Barack Obama attracting 44% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. huh whats the matter No PUMA love
These polls are a joke. Obama pays the owners to change the numbers. It’s common knowledge
The kind of common knowledge that only gets mentioned on this blog?
It really is embarrassing for a PRESUMPTIVE nominee to be so PRESUMPTUOUS. I’m really amazed that anyone could think having a speech before the Brandenburg gate by a campaigning politician would not be very offensive on so many levels.
First off: they just want the fawning crowds
Second off: they just want the fawning crowds to make it look like Americans will be “respected again.” Blech.
Third off: they want him to look like an international leader because of all the fawning crowds
Fourth off: they want Americans to see all the fawning crowds and drink more Kool-aid
Fifth off: they want the fawning crowds to take time away from voting Americans chance to ask questions of Obama and see him in person.
etc. etc. etc
Obama’s whole candidacy has been produced like a Michael Jackson tour. After the hype and performance in the US you take the hype and tour overseas. Michael Jackson and Obama have so much in come. All style and no substance.
No style that I can perceive. All flash and no substance. But I love the Whacko Jacko comparison. Michael tried to make himself look white, Obama’s trying to make his Arab butt look black. Maybe a duet of Ebony and Ivory is in order….
Arab? Since when?
Since he was born, Brack Hussein Obama is a arab name, his father was a non-practicing Muslim. People of arab descent came to that part of Africa and displaced the africans. I think Obama’s father had a black African great-grandmother but the rest of his family are of arab descent. Haven’t you ever see the pic of Obama dressed in arab garb when he made a trip to visit his Peeps?
Thats going to blow his whole deal. The first white/Arab/black candidate for president is not a good sound bite for the MSN
black op post.
Deke….I hate it.
He truly is the product of the American Idol crapola on TV.
I swear, I keep waiting for some Obamabot to suggest we just text our vote.
Do you think he’ll swagger about and speak with the gangsta/ghetto affect?
I cannot wait for him to leave our Country just so we can have a few minutes to remember what it was like before his most wonderfulness popped up on our mailnland.
Maybe he’s running for President of the World.
Maybe its a front so he can meet in some cave with Alsammarae and divvy up the loot that is also MIA.
Bart you got it–The height of arrogance is to try to make people believe you are running the world. Fawning crowds replace substance. Obama is so terrified that Hillary will somehow steal the nomination from him that he is pretending he is already President. He even said the other day — When I was a Senator. I don’t wonder that he doesn’t remember the position to which he was elected–as he never shows up.
Plouffe releases preliminary figure of $52M for June. Says average donation was $68.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/07/obamas_camp_52m.html
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Right on.
from the Middle East?
Obama calls for DRAFT in ‘historic speech on patriotism’
http://www.obama-wire.com/calltoservice.htm
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in same speech he also says public service in Military or Peace Corp is center piece in his admin.
Perhaps the stupid sumbitch will promise that, “…we shall send a man to the moon and return in this decade…”
Oh NO, it can’t be done. Captain, I cannae do it.
agent 77 — How come Obama never served in the military? I guess sacrifice is what everyone else should do while he rakes in the big bucks.
The democratic party will be better off when you people register as Republicans. I don’t believe any of you are real Democrats. This election is too important to all of our futures to let racism tear us apart. Obama won the delegate race fair and square and all the sour grapes wont change it. Get over it.
Please go away until you have some real arguments, some real information or anything at all of use. “Racism” as a reason for not supporting the great BO is a tired, intellectually dishonest and lazy way to stereotype people who disagree with you.
The same for your tired, lame “sour grapes” refrain.
BO has internal opposition who don’t like his policies. Get over it.
I wonder if it’s painful to be as thickheaded as the pod people are.
Do you think they need ” HEADON” apply directly to the forehead?
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
Probably miss the forehead completely and get it all over their chins.
LMAO!!
go get a new taling point James. Delegate votes yes, popular votes, no and he didn’t win anything fairly.
You need to get over it.
I will not vote for a man who must repeatedly subvert democracy to win. Nor will I vote for a man who steals from the same poor black folks he places his community organizer bona fides, the second he gains any real power.
The DNC help to select Obama and gave him delegates Hillary won. That isn’t fair and square in any sane assessment.
Now go look in the mirror and ask yourself why you must project your ignorance and racism on others. Because if you think the only reason not to vote for Obama is racism….then YOU are an ignorant racist.
I have been a democrat all of my life, but will not support the DNC stealing votes on behalf of anyone. It was wrong when the GOP did it in Florida, by clearing the rolls and other tricks.
It is STILL wrong when the DNC steals the votes of TWO ENTIRE STATES!!
We’re not letting racism tear us apart. We don’t play the race card, but we usually have it dealt to us every other hand.
“Real” Democrats (and real Americans) put country and honor above partisan politcal rhetoric.
Obama didn’t win the delegate race fair and square. His campaign was anything but fair. I will give them credit for being the most organized bunch of thugs I have ever had the displeasure to meet.
Remember what happened when Mother England told American colonists to get over “Taxation without Representation?” Sour grapes did change the situation. As it will in this case of “Representation by Self-Proclamation.”
“Obama lost the delegate race fair and square and all the sour grapes wont change it. Get over it.”
Just changing you statement to reflect reality.
Oh - and…
Hillary or McCain 2008. And there’s nothing you can do about it.
“Get over it.”
Party
Unity
My
Ass.
“Fair and square”.
LMAO. I vote this the best Obot joke on here yet today. (I’m still allowed to vote, right?)
Ah. And there’s that wonderful “get over it”. God, I love that one. Do you think if they say it enough, we’ll fall in line and vote for Obama? They seem to think so.
Okay, bot. Time to report back to Ocamp and get your next dose of Kook-aid. I hear they’re administering them through enemas now. How nice for you.
Bending over and touching his toes will be helpful when he joins Rezko.
The members on this blog are largely NOT racists, and are pretty diverse and inclusive.
However, after reading your stuff, we are re-thinking our Open Door Policy for Assholes.
“Largely” being the key qualifier there. LOL.
Obama must be scraping the bottom of the barrel with this troll. It what you get when you pay at the same rate he pays his kids nanny, $1 per hour.
No obama did not win “fair and square”! the nomination was stolen from Hillary by the dem.party! All of you people that support obama better wake up! He is not GOOD for US!!!
You can ignore us. We constitute what..17% this week?
We are the ones who watched the DNC rules committee and saw how it came down. My normal friends who just listen to the news headlines daily had no idea what really happened.
We are a minority voice. Ignore us.
Dead-enders, as you call us.
We’re vocal, of course, but that’s freedom of speech.
But you can be assured that many will vote Republican in the Fall, some will leave it blank, some will vote Green, some will not vote at all, and some will write in Hillary out of defiance against the reality of how Obama won. We will NOT be voting for this Democratic gang.
I said, until I got banned, over and over. You’re just swapping out voters.
Obama brings in left Independents (who are predictably already mad at him) and threatens with the race card in the most crass way imaginable and pushes out traditional Dems probably over the age of 50. He traded a flakey, unstable young group for the predictable Dem supporters.
BUT….that was a risk that the Dems took, they made it clear in interview after interview that they WISHED to make that move. So be it.
It’s now quite silly to whine about it. They knew they would lose us.
They have.
So no whining.
And no whining about losing our money, either. We happen to have more of it than the new younger Dem party.
But we’ve not been particularly generous to politicians as individuals in the past. I can see why they didn’t really factor us in much.
Since Obama threw public finance under the bus, we may have to become financially more involved. That’s OK. I’ve got enough knick-knacks. This is a fun way to spend money.
In short, the backlash was to be expected. It’s happened.
You need to get over it.
There goes the call of the wild Obamabot “Racist” they need some better talking points at fight the smears.
can you explain one thing obama has in common with mugabe other than his race?
Mugabe was elected the first time legit on a change platform The man was worshiped and was even knighted by the queen. the man has foolish followers. and least bots are not violent yet… hence change in its self is not good.
so this is the only popular change candidate you could think of to compare him to? despite the utter lack of substantive similarity. i call bullshit.
How about the other change candidate, GWB? Sound familiar? He’s the outsider that will change Washington. Look where he got us.
And their race is not the same Obama is mostly white and Arab. absolutely nothing wrong with this but why is he so ashamed of it.
obama is not even a little bit “arab.”
james andrews — get over the race thing–we need a competent President to deal with 2 wars and an economy which is in freefall. This is hurting everyone no matter what their race–what is Obama going to do for anyone? Buy up all the mirrors so he can look at himself from every angle. I was a third generation Democrat and now that I have watched the fools take over this once great party I am voting for McCain because he has the experience to handle this job. PUMA
“fair and square” ????????
ooops my quote format is backwards..
It’s their phrase of the week, much as bush had his word of the day.
Who cares what you believe james andrews. You also believe an incmpetent Boob is fit to lead America. So much for your judgement or lack thereof.
We are not ‘you people’. We are WE, THE PEOPLE. get over it.
Barack Obama in Berlin 2008 - Brandenburger Tor
Dear Mr. Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fx195ph8BM
Please run your election campaign in your homeland USA. Germany should be an independent country, we are not Iraq and we don`t wont any us-propaganda and us-campaign in our country.
We are not a part of the USA.
The war in Iraq is wrong also the war in Afghanistan.
Angela Merkel is acting against the most german people`s mind.
Your are welcome as a friend
but not as a campaigner.
…………………………………………….
I agree, why is he traveling now, and not chairing the committee with direct oversight on Afghanistan? Also, if he can’t take part in a town hall, why is he willing to place himself internationally as a person of the people when he is afraid of what questions they might ask? Will he be traveling with his OBAMA PRESIDENTIAL SEAL?
How do you say this in German?
I AM AN IMPOSTER!
woman voter — I read on Fox News.com that Merkel was approached by a Bush official who said to turn Obama down because it would be not give the right image of the US for Obama to speak at the Brandenburg Gate–Is that not the case? I read she then told Obama that he cannot speak there. Obama was looking for other venues. Just read that 2 days ago.
November 4th can’t get here too soon for me.
I’m ready to vote the Kool-Aid crowd into obscurity NOW.
King O poo poos again. How dare the Germans try and stop him!
The Germans can STOP HIM! That is thier Country! USA is ours! The only reason he wants to go there is because of his mothers belief in the “communist party” JUST ANOTHER WAY TO STIR SHIT!
Regardless of whether Obama got permission, since there was disapproval by the German chancellor Merkel and for very significant and good reason, the honorable and dignified thing to do would be to have the rally someplace else.
Are Germans voting in our US elections now?? Obama still thinks giving a speech makes him qualified to be President. Apparently he thinks giving one in Germany gives him foreign policy experience. I really wish someone would just come out w what they have on Obama and end this stupid shit. He’s an embarrassment to the United States and all of his followers are as well.
My feelings too. This is an American election and for Obama to give speeches in other countries like this is beyond incomprehensible. He is not a true American no matter what he says.He is not running to be president of the world. His supporters think he is. They think he can save the world. How utterly ignorant and naive they are about the world leaders. This speech in Germany is TOTALLY OFFENSIVE TO ME as an AMERICAN. OBAMA does not represent the American people. He is the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. THAT IS ALL!
We want to see the ACTUAL birth certificate NOW! He never showed it for his State or US Senate run..cough the f’n thing up NOW!
Drag his ass to jail for showing us a fraudulent doc from an online birth certificate purchase.
I don’t believe he is a natural born citizen. NO WAY! There is too much proof showing he is not a natural born citizen.
Capital Hill needs to be complaining alot louder now. We are done. We have had enough of this. Kick the bum out!
Send him to Kenya.
Look how he destroyed the AA’s in Chicago. Man they are in for a rude awakening.
“The mayor would be delighted to have Mr Obama take advantage of speaking at the Brandenburg Gate to spread his message,” said the mayor’s spokesman.
…………………………..
2004 Convention Speech = Ready to Run for President
Brandenburg Gate Speech = He’s got more foreign relations experience than Mc Cain
Anyone seeing a pattern of hypnosis hear? And exactly what is his message? Will he be walking out onto the gate to JZ’s “I got 99 problems but a bitch aint one” like in the US?
His own autobiography is a complete lie and subject to legal action.
Have you ever read an autobiogrphy “based on fictional characters?” -quote Obama
Stop this shit eating boob NOW!
If only we did not have all the “pashtoonie” speaking translators in Iraq, Obama could have spoken with them to understand the German people’s sentiment about the Historic Landmark.
No Matter, you all have not been listening, he said it was innapropriate to give a speech at the Brandenburg Gate. Therefore he is announcing that he will read a teleprompter from this location instead.
Whats really crazy is that he is actually thinking about going into the country that Hitler came to power in and give a speech. I mean with all the talk about his similarities with Hilter in terms of popularity and he is actually going to GO INTO germany and give a speech on the same platform as Hitler. HELLO! DING DING DING! red lights should be flashing all over his campiagn head quaters.
Maybe he wants to hit the thrift shops and see if he can pick up some swell nazi officer’s costumes, I mean uniforms.
Will he be standing up in an open car, hiling himself? I remember as a child seeing films of Adolph entering Paris.
“all the talk”
that’s rich.
Darryl — let us not forget we must never mention his middle name–we must never make jokes about him–we must never speak against him in any way — we must never utter the word fairytale even though this is what comes in mind when we look at that prick.
The guy is on an ego trip — he wants us to forget history and just remember him. The media will be watching for the gaffs and there will be plenty. Another ugly Americans goes abroad.
OMG-great observation!
Pat: one could argue that Senator Obama earned the right to give his little talk at the Brandenburg Gate. Didn’t his uncle save all the Jews, Gypsies, and Roman Catholic Priests at Auschwitz ? (satire)
And don’t forget us Slavs. Nobody ever mentions us.
mahaska — sorry to leave you out. Obama saved the Slavs too. ^5
Thank you and it was darn crowded in that rowboat too.
My dear friend Haypops–You are too funny! LOL!!!
Yes and from the Navy none the less. plowed the ship right though the camps fences.
And the DNC is moving its headquarters to Chicago? Not to Obama’s district, I gather. From the Chicagoans Against Obama Website, explaining why Chicagoans are against the chosen one:
“The 13th district, Obama’s district, is a sad place…a place that has stayed the same for decades…..a place that money-bribed politicians keep down, for their own benefit…..
The 13th disctrict, is unfortunately known for out of control gang violence, drug warfare, school violence, hate churches, hate mosques, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, corrupt alderman, and notorious slumlords……”
The obama office there has bars on the windows and doors.
I`d feel safer if they were behind those windows and doors.
That would make an effective photograph.
I saw a photo of it a couple of weeks ago, but I don’t remember where.
Wouldn’t that be a great 527 ad?
Walking in Obama’s district and see exactly what gains he has made for them.
Time for THE END GAME. What the hell is congress doing? They need to stop this dangerous man.
Obama using a Prez seal, at the Governors Meeting showed me how truly arrogant he is.
Wanting to speak in Germany now,WOW
Doesn’t he realize, he’s an embarrassment,to so many Democrats.
No wonder the Democrats keep losing elections.
Clinton was there only sure bet,and they Blew it.
Suggestions for places Obama really should give his speech:
1) His bathroom mirror. No one will love or admire his speech more than his mirror.
2) His dinner table with his children. Children love hearing their daddy talk. No one would appreciate him more, outside of his bathroom mirror, than his children.
3) His shower. In case he drools all over himself while giving his speech, he will have direct access to soap. Get cleaned and make a stand.
RepublicanChick — I finally appreciate how you Republicans win elections. I am watching the Democrats take defeat from the Jaws of Victory. State parties are furious with Obama for not caring about the down ticket Democrats — Its all about him and when its over he will have left a Democratic disaster in his wake. I will be voting with you guys this year as will Millions of us Hillary Dems. I hope you will welcome us. In 80 you got the Reagan Democrats and this year it will be the Hillary Democrats. Obama can keep whats left and they can hold their convention in a phone both in 2012.
He has a whole new party planned. The die hard old grassroots people in the Dem party already found that out. They were kicked out to the curb in lieu of Obamas own hired campaign workers..we are in trouble.
Why does everything have to be such a big deal with Obama, I really don’t think the Germans give a fig about what Obama has to say, but of course being the media hog that Obama is he would want to play every even to the max.
He is going to Iraq well there is a square there also the one where they pulled down Saddam statue maybe he can hold a rally there, then he can jet off to China and use that famous square also ask the Chinese to throw in a few tanks for the back drop.
He can then move to Africa and find some spot with his cousin to make another announcement, Obama can travel the world just looking for places to hit lights, camera and action. He should do it now with this heavy press core of 200 that he is taking on his tour so we can all witness the coming of a new messiah.
I am positive those commanders in Iraq are just welcoming this added headache of Obama and his press gang walking and talking all over the place. Iraq must not be that dangerous now if Obama is willing to take so many people over there to cover his backside, he sure does not seem to be thinking about the security issues now is he, I guess the men and woman serving in Iraq have nothing better to do then protect Obama when he get there.
There’s an article on RCP from yesterday that agreed with you:
“It’s not all about Obama.”
LOL*
We’re all sick to death of the guy, and he’s lucky this is July and people are too busy having fun to pay much attention to his shenanigans.
Duh! Cause Obama is like OM–G to the Maximus!
Yes, I heard an Obama supporter say this on TV. I nearly passed out from laughing so hard.
If I want to see obama supporters, I watch cops.
LMAO!!
Bad Boy…Bad Boy.
The reason he said Hillary supporters were uneducated, low life is to project what is really going on with his supporters…
But we all knew that without saying right?
LOL
Valley girls live???
I think this is actually the strategy of the Media. They are going to ram him down our throats so much, that eventually the gag reflex will take over and we will throw him back up.
or else our gag reflex will just stop working. We’ll become Obulimic!
Ha ha ha… lmao… And the comedians think there’s nothing to make fun of Obama about! How about calling him Oblahma, Glibama, Ofraudma, Nobama? Electing him would be an obamanation! I think the ways people can doctor up his name are hysterical. We need some humor in this whole surreal charade so we can stay sane. Now why can’t the comedians address that? Oh, I forgot, he’s not buffoonish!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….
He’s NOT?????
LOL*……Nah*…….
I’ve always said these pundits rip these pieces off fast so they can still make that all-important soccer game and keep the kids happy.
Darryl — maybe its because Obama hasn’t been funny up to now. The media will be following the gaffs closely. This should break the ice. Americans will be laughing our asses off at this embarrassing overgrown kid.
I think the anchors are going over there so that they can have a live feed when he turns water into wine.
But, the result might be as Darryl predicted. The gag reflex will take over. It kicked in for me when Mathews told about the “thrill” running up his leg.
I threw up om May 31st and couldn’t stop. OMG. What a reaction!
Obama hypnotism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U
:you hear him and believe because of the backdrop and the hype.
Post speech:
1) Chris Mathews leg goes into convultions.
2) Olbermann does a 2 hour special to point out all the highlights.
2) CNN Carry’s it live and does several shows for several weeks.
3) All the newspapers put him on the front page (those asking about his resume are put next to the funnies).
4) Mc Cain coverage…who? The media is busy covering President Obama….
Hypnosis hear…is working and the people stop asking question and ask for an autograph of president Obama…no need for an election, the DNC took care of that. Anyone left asking questions will be dealt with a quick death threat!
The networks are stupid. The polls tell the story. McCain still is pretty much tied, even with the slight bump from a couple of polls this week.
Obama is not replacing us with Independents out there.
That’s the story. He has to replace us, and right now? McCain is leading in Independents who have said they are leaning his way.
It really is embarrassing. Obama seems to think he is not only already the President of the US, but also ruler of the world. And he is causing division within the government in germany. He is SUCH a unifier…not.
Merkel ally opposes Obama speech in Berlin
Reuters, The Associated Press
BERLIN: A conservative ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Barack Obama should not speak at Berlin’s Brandenburg Gate because he played no role in German reunification.
Erwin Huber, chairman of the Bavarian sister party to Merkel Christian Democrats, accused Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier of pandering to the U.S. presidential candidate by inviting Obama to speak in the center of Berlin.
Obama’s tentative plans to hold a speech in late July at the Brandenburg Gate, a symbol of German unity, have exposed simmering tensions in the German government, an uneasy alliance between the main conservative and center-left parties.
Merkel and Steinmeier, who are from rival parties, may face off in a federal election next year.
“Obama didn’t do anything for German unification,” Huber told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. “That’s not a criticism, but as a result there is no reason to grant him such a privilege.”
Huber said American presidents such as Ronald Reagan, who spoke at the Berlin Wall in 1987, and his successor George H.W. Bush, president when the wall was breached in 1989, deserved the credit for their roles in reuniting Germany.
Obama said Saturday that he hoped to resolve concerns expressed by Merkel.
“I want to make sure that my message is heard as opposed to creating a controversy,” Obama said.
“So, you know, our goal is just for me to lay out how I think about the next administration’s role in rebuilding a trans-Atlantic alliance, so I don’t want the venue to be a distraction. What I want to do is just work with folks on the ground to find some place that’s appropriate.”
The German government has denied that Washington put pressure on Merkel to block the proposed Obama speech.
Leading German newspapers, including Bild and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, reported that Bush administration officials attending a G-8 summit meeting in Japan last week expressed reservations to the German delegation about Obama’s speaking at the landmark.
“The reports are completely unfounded,” Merkel’s spokesman, Ulrich Wilhelm, said when asked about the reports and a suggestion from Mayor Klaus Wowereit of Berlin that the Bush administration had put pressure on Merkel.
“There were no expectations whatsoever expressed either outright or tacitly in that regard from American President Bush or his staff. It’s pure fiction.”
He said last week that she frowned on any speech at the gate.
Merkel was not happy to see “electioneering” at the gate, calling the idea “odd.” That snub prompted a sharp response from Steinmeier, who said Germany would be honored.
“Steinmeier is just trying to curry favor with Obama,” Huber said.
“He thinks he can gain an advantage by showing his support for Obama early,” he continued. “That’s pretty naive, if you ask me.
“What’s next? Should Republican John McCain come next - should the American campaign be fought out in Germany?”
What message does he want heard? We have yet to hear what it is this ass stands for.
“I want to make sure that my message is heard as opposed to creating a controversy,” Obama said.
That quote stuck out to me also.
Especially since that is all Obama likes to do is create controversy just so his message isn’t heard.
Comment by mahaska | 2008-07-17 12:19:24
What message does he want heard?
“I’m king of the world!!!!”
LOL!
Oh yeah, I forgot.
He’s not even the nominee yet!
How presumptuous!
What do the Italians think of this (him) Sara?
They know he calls them garlic noses right?
omg…..it is so embarrasing for us to have obutthole traveling around the world representing the united states. god, i feel ike going to bed and cover my head to escape this bullshit. how dare him do this. next thing he will attempt to do is a speech from mount sanai……he makes me physically sick to my stomach.
I agree…it’s an embarrassment and all of his little kiddie followers as well. Sure looks like a lot of parents did a piss poor job raising their kids.
Pat, you hit the nail again.
Ob has no experience PERIOD.
He says he was in the State Senate in
Illinois for years. In fact, they meet
for 55 days a year, YES, 55 days.
And in the US senate, he has spent
as much time running for President
as he has serving in the Senate.
Ob will make some big mistakes during this
trip. He can’t meet with all of these interests
without contradicting some of his statements.
More Waffeling. FISA “I’ll fillabuster”, then
he votes YES ! ! He’s a “constitutional lawyer”,
so he says, and he votes to burn the 4th amendment.
He is not a constitutional lawyer or professor! That’s another fictional character lie of his. He doesn’t even know what’s in the constitution
He was on the faculty of the University of Chicago Law School. Your comment is both right and wrong, depending on how you want to use the term “professor.”
He was adjunct faculty, and within academia the term “professor” is reserved for those who are at the institution full-time and have worked their way up the ranks. Obama did not do this. But others say that anyone who teaches even occasionally and part time or is working on a research grant or consulting in an insitution of higher learning can be referred to as a “professor.”
I think there is a sharp distinction and that adjunct faculty should refer to themselves as such (or whatever their title is, e.g., external research consultant) to avoid confusion.
Universities can have thousands of adjunct faculty who many of whom can do little or almost no work.
My job title was, “Adjunct INSTRUCTOR in _____.”
If it was good enough for Crewcut JuCo, it’s good enough!
Obama will NOT speak at Brandenburg Gate:
http://www.thelocal.de/13111/20080717/
Source: http://www.thelocal.de/13111/20080717/
I dare him to go speak in the slums of Britain.
But he will have his Nuremberg rally in Denver. Heil Obama!
I heard if you attend you get a free torch.
cat — Good I hope this solves the issue. Bush made us look foolish enough we don’t need to be embarrassed further. I read that article and was looking at the apartments in that publication. Its really very pretty.
Just answer this honesty,
If the president of mexico, calderon, wanted to hold an reelection rally at the foot of mt rushmore would you have a problem with that or if the us president acquised would you have a problem with that?
If the next candidate for the rissia presidency wanted to hold a campaign speech at the statute of libery would you have a problem with that?
It sets a bad precedent. Obama ought to be ashamed of himself. If he isn’t; let us “hope” he gets shamed before the convention.
PUMA
I’m glad you brought that up. When I read it my first thought was why on earth would they want to? So there you have it. Why on earth does bo want to go bother the Germans.
mahaska — Remember that movie What About Bob with Bill Murray. The guy is a pest and once you let him in he never leaves. If there is ever a sequel it should be called What About Barack.
I love that movie and yes you’re right. I’m starting to feel like the good doctor.
Its not fair that just Americans get to bask in his glory.
roflmao
The man has no shame only ego.
This trip should have been vetted by the state department. He isn’t president and he cannot speak for the nation by appearing at this venue he takes on the appearance as if he giving a policy position for the US. This is a major issue and should not be dismissed. This is on par with what Mac Arthur did in Korea. I am disappointed there is not more outrage.
Bush has to stay out of it. Let the German chancellor embarass Obama.
Bush has bigger fish to fry. He has to help McCain while not being cozy. LOL*
He’s doing his part this week on Iraq.
He’ll do the heavy lifting for McCain and be the fall-guy.
You are totally right. This should be addressed at the federal level.
This sounds like the beginning of Soros’s New World Order. A one world Government. Who let the dogs out?
The true shame in all this hype is that Nelson Mandela should be the one asked to speak at the Gate but hasn’t been afforded this opportunity. Its all about Obama! ME, ME, ME…first!
Mc Cain is too humble and respectful and wouldn’t think to try and speak at such a highly regarded place without first doing the work to earn that right (even with his service record, his father’s and grandfather’s.). When CNN carries it live, Mc Cain will be tossed to the back of page of the news for weeks.
I see the use of this historical place as an illegal foreign campaign contribution…someone needs to add up its value and file a complaint as it is influencing our political process.
Heck even Al Gore hasn’t asked and he continues to work for a better world. The whole event is disturbing…
How narcisstic of him. He is already dividing another country, how sad for the Germans. The other day Obama said he was going to fix the United Nations all by himself. He really does think he is messianic. I don’t think what he said about the UN will go over well.I am certain while he is in Germany he will do something very stupid where Merkel is concerned after all she is a woman and we know what he thinks about us! And I bet he manages to strain relations even more between us and the EU. Problems already exist within the EU if Obama is elected president…or maybe that is selected!
That will be after he raises the level of the seas.
Obama’s campaign hopes to convince America that Obama is POTUS material by getting Europeans and Middle Easterners to praise him. They want to sell him as a citizen of the world.
Frankly, I want a patriot for President. The whole new world order philosophy is connected to the global economy rationale. Wake up, America!
“The other day Obama said he was going to fix the United Nations all by himself. He really does think he is messianic.”- Navyvet48
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), son of the one-time presidential contender, said Obama’s victory overwhelmed him.
“I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. … The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”
http://dyn.politico.com/ printsto…0E851454E822F1E
&
http://elections.foxnews.com/200…-obama-remarks/
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Spike Lee says the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s crudely phrased criticism of Barack Obama won’t affect the Democrat’s campaign, which the filmmaker expects to succeed at bringing “seismic” change to the world.
Lee predicted Obama would be elected in November.
“When that happens, it will change everything. … You’ll have to measure time by `Before Obama’ and `After Obama,”‘ Lee said during the panel. “It’s an exciting time to be alive now.”
The presidency of the first African-American will ripple throughout arts, sports and more, said Lee, whose films include “Malclom X” and “Do the Right Thing.”
“Everything’s going to be affected by this seismic change in the universe,” he said.
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Amen! You hit it on the nail! He will save the world with a speech…chairing committee hearings…that’s for mortal people!
Obama is a joke and Jesse Jackson’s son and Spike Lee don’t seem to know it (or get it). . . .but who cares what they think anyway? Smeone please give them the memo: Obama will go down in flames in a landslide LOSS in November (thank goodness)!
So its ok for Jesse Jackson Jr. to cry all night but for Hillary to shed a tear during the campaign is a major crime against humanity. Why don’t these people get over themselves.
What a character. Barry just keeps me laughing. He is so inept. Probably be better for him if he went back to the hopey-changey-yes we can mantra and let the more serious matters alone. All he needs is the big red shoes and seltzer bottle and I’ll watch him every Saturday morning.
Bama the Clown and his sidekick Larry Sinclair?
I’m very much not cool here, so why am I suppose to care about Spike Lee’s comment?
I haven’t gotten that one yet.
I thought spike lee was in jail for tax evasion.
??
You might find that you have, “…completely underestimated the creepiness.”
I disagree with some comments here. Obama is NOT naive or clueless. He knows exactly what he is doing. I do not underestimate this guy. What appears to be “blunders” are just examples of his ego and arrogance. He is pushing the envelope on everything. If he can try it and get away with it, why not go for it? That is how he ended up with the cartoon “seal” (that did not work), his phone calls to foreign ambassadors (that no press people reported as out of place), etc. He has been “Acting as if” since the beginning and no one in the press, or in the opposition, has called him on it. Finally, a foreign country has to put the skids to him. What a fuckwad this guy is. He is worse than GWB could ever be and far more dangerous! May the angels help us and save us should this guy be selected.
You’ve got a point there. It just makes him LOOK stupid.
Exactly! and you don’t suppose that Hillary fought so hard with 18 hr days just to beocme president do you? She fought because she knows. She hides it well though…except for the tears for america in NH
Wishing doesn’t make it so.
Maybe Germany will be one of Oblahblah’s seven new states.
And Denver will be renamed Nuremberg after his big Hitler rally in August.
It’s the Felsingebirge Rally. Felsingebirge means Rocky Mountains.
“No matter how this matter ultimately resolves itself, Obama and his campaign started a squabble within the factions of a foreign ally. ”
Ah yes, the Great Uniter is at it again.
Don’t the Europeans realize that this fool will be the “leader of the free world” if elected? But, talk about racial guilt–just look at the Germans! It’s against the law now to be a Nazi there, and guess who visits Israel in huge numbers? I wish they could keep him! After they found out a thing or two about him, they’d be suggesting he make a one-way trip to Kenya!
This is a good alternative venue for Obama.
* It will help him prepare for his Felsengebirge Rally in Denver.
* It is dedicated to international spectacles.
* It seats the same number of people.
* It has historic significance.
* It is a relic an earlier experience of National Unification and Uplift scheme.
* PLUS this is an Olympic year.
* And here is a US and ethic association: he could bring along one of Jesse Owens’ relatives.
http://www.olympiastadion-berlin.de/index.php?id=30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvhEqZxkRq4
Altogether preferable.
[edit] And there is a US and ethnic …
and I guess I forgot to mention - the place is highly photogenic. He could bring a camera crew and make a documentary.
And call it what?
“The Triumph of the Weenie?”
Fred C Dobbs “The Triumph of the Weenie?”
Brilliant man — line of the day.
Triumph of the Won’t?
Good suggestion on the venue.
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It reminds me of the HBO ‘Fists of Freedom’ about the iconic image of the black athletes holding a gloved fist in support of black civil rights.
The Olympic committee had sent Jesse Owens to soothe over the black athletes, who in turn treated him so badly he left with tears in his eyes.
I understand the issues they were facing and completely respect their right to speak out…but they didn’t have to treat him so badly. It was a rather sad scene in an interesting doc, if you have the time to watch it is on HBO now.
This is just the intro of the doc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJbAf8YwFC8
WTF is he running for President of the United States? Or Emperor of the World?
What the f*ck does berlin have to do with the presidential elections?
How many Germans in germany vote in the Presidential Election.
Aren’t there enough Historic and culturally significant locations within our own great country to use as a backdrop for another Teleprompter Tirade?
Seriously this Obama is an idiot in a class all his own.
He is not Proud of this country remember?
Isn’t it small-minded to think about Obama as the “Emperor of the World”, when it’s “Emperor of the Universe” he’s striving for.
I say, we should send him off to Mars to speak, or better, yet, to Pluto, the most distant planet we know of. Think of the vast space he would command.
Seriously, Obama is self-agrandizing pimple on the ass of american politics. And history will make that clear.
The Germans should be thankful that Barack is visiting. They gave us Hitler and we give them the anti-Hitler. When thousands appear to hear Barack speak they will inspire millions with their enthralled faces and lighted candles.
And then he can insult them with lies about his uncle.
Thousands of Germans also showed up regularly to David Hasselhoff concerts…Germans have a fondness for two-bit entertainers.
lol*
bobo — are you kidding??? Its an ego trip — it has nothing whatever to do with you. The guy is a fruitcake who wants to be a messiah. Mental hospitals are filled with people like this.
He is clearly mentally ill. Who vetted this guy? Anyone? Where are his medical records? McCain showed his. Where are BO’s medical records?
How much crack does he smoke per week?
Thanks for another great cartoon, Pat, and for putting OBot’s political naive blundering into historical context. Seems the arrogant one will do anything to get attention, even at the risk of alienating an ally. Merkel is right on for objecting to this inappropriate use of a site reserved for elected officials. Of course, OBot is already President in his own mind. So one could expect no less. McCain should make hay with this one! It will be interesting to see if OBot will back down when he sees how unpopular and bizarrely inappropriate his intended action is viewed by the majority of the German public as well as most Americans.