New Yorker Cover Cartoon NOT a Satire?
By Kirk Tofte on July 18, 2008 at 12:45 PM in Backtrack Obama, Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Muslim
It is being reported today that Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times has in his possession a tape recording of an interview he once had with Barack Obama that may be very damaging to the latter’s campaign for the presidency.
The tape (and the transcript of it) stem from a February 27, 2007 visit Kristof paid to Obama’s senate offices. A column Kristof wrote based upon this interview appeared in the New York Times on March 6, 2007.
In a column he wrote this week about Obama which was published on Tuesday, Kristof once again refers to this earlier interview. Also, he has subsequently seemed to say that his editors have reviewed it in its entirety.
What may be damning about the interview, the transcript of it and—especially—the original tape recording is that Obama allegedly provided Kristof with a recitation from memory of the Muslim call to prayer in Arabic. One of Obama’s cousins in Africa has stated in the recent past that Obama was, indeed, once a Muslim. Kristof’s interview records may prove this more definitively.
Obama lived in Indonesia until he was about ten years old. He attended a Catholic school there but was allegedly enrolled as a student of the Muslim faith. Popular psychologists have maintained for decades that what happens to children during their tenth year of life stays with them most strongly for as long as they live. Obama has admitted in one of his best-selling books that he remembers vividly hearing Muslim calls to prayer when he was growing up in Southeast Asia. But what does it mean if he remembers the call in its entirety in a language, Arabic, foreign to both Americans and Indonesians?
The issue is not whether Obama was ever a Muslim. Who could blame him if his elders exposed him to Muslim influences and even mosque attendance in the largest Islamic country in the world, Indonesia, as a child? What Kristof may, however, have raised as an issue once again—and, this time, in spades—is Obama’s inability and/or unwillingness to tell us the truth about his past in Southeast Asia, Chicago or anywhere else.
I agree, great article. The issue is if this true, he lied..
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
How? He says in his book that the Muslim call to prayer is a very beautiful sound. And indeed it is.
Not all Muslims are terrorists.
Many are good people.
Unlike…you.
Paul don’t you know that being Muslim in America today is a crime.
Oh man, I keep forgetting!
Sorry about that, I thought for a minute that we lived in a country with freedom of religion. I totally forgot about the past 8 years! My bad.
Its not the religion BOTS- Its another lie of many, many many. He’s another Bush. Wake up Bots!
I have spent a lot of time in Istanbul where my husband lived for two years. In NYC, as well, it is not uncommon to hear the call to prayer from an East Village mosque near 14th Street. You’ll also see cab drivers pull over and pray on mats occasionally. I have a great deal of respect for many different religions including Islam. Obama worried me from my first hearing of him when the rumors about his childhood began. There was much controversy over whether he was enrolled in the Catholic school as a Muslim or not. His response indicated he was lying about something. I don’t think he’s a Manchurian candidate except for the old Bush administration and their enablers in the hard line left of the Democratic party. So, he most certainly can be a liar and a friend of GWB.
You live in my world. Never been to Instanbul, but when I zip into NYC it that doesn’t matter anymore. Within 5 minutes I’m in sync with peoples from all over the world.
If Ocrapa wanted to connect with the world he could have ’staged’ an event in NYC. Walking on the Hudson is probably not as good as the Mediterranean. I wonder if the media is going to cover that one? They could just go over on theee Bus together, he could part the Atlantic and then, save a whole lot of carbon footsteps. If he was a true blue Muslim, he would have a Magic Carpet.
I love NYC!! and I think we should all gather there in huge numbers and hang out at all the MSM rope lines holding signs in their windows. Then we could all walk over to CP and have dinner in (International vendors galore) at Strawberry Fields.
Where’s that freaking bus?
If Obama walked on the Hudson, people’d think he was surfing on an alligator or a dead body. It is a wonderful city still with people from all over. Manhattan has become more homogenized recently, of course. But if you know your way around, you can be seemingly anywhere. The city still has a great energy.
Obama spoke at Cooper Union, which ain’t bad. Chicago is a beef and shoulder town. It doesn’t jibe with NY, which is very direct and in-your-face. That’s why the state embraced Hillary; she was not a carpet bagger to us. Thousands of people move to NY each year, and you just have to work your ass off and get out there and meet people. She was a natural fit.
A lot of people call New Yorkers rude. Hillary was never one to mince words. Obama just seems so provincial and milquetoast. And New Yorkers think the rest of the country is backwards and gullible and rude, just for coming to our town and acting like yahoos and abusing the service and hospitality industry. Blunt speaking is a virtue in NY, and lying is time-wasting. I’d take McCain over Obama any day.
IT IS ABOUT THE LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but how did he lie? just b/c he knows the prayer doesn’t make him a muslim. you’re drawing that conclusion yourself.
Excellent point Yaz, but it will be lost on the bitter ones here. In fact, Obama, in speaking about his mother stated that she was not religious but taught him about various faiths.
If your father is a Muslim, you’re a Muslim.
Don’t yell at me or get all huffy and self-righteous about that–that’s the way the faith works. That’s also why his Muslim stepdaddy enrolled him as a Muslim, because he knew that his daddy was one.
Now, Obama can say he was a “nominal” Muslim–a Jack Muslim, like those Jack Mormons–but he was a Muslim. When he went to Wright’s church, joined up and “accepted Christ as his personal savior” or whatever verbal nonsense people spew about worshipping invisible idols, he, in essence, RENOUNCED Islam in the eyes of Muslims. And RENOUNCING….that’s not a good thing.
This is why he’s pussyfooting around about this issue. He knows full well that “nudge wink” the Islamic world is assuming he is hiding his faith–it’s called TAQUIYYA, and in some situations, it’s perfectly acceptable to do…for example, when a Catholic priest in Spain is threatening you with a hot poker….or you want to become President of the US.
Now, the question remains–IS he “hiding his faith” or is he really one of those “committed Christians?” The Islamic world thinks he is the Taquiyya Kid–after all, didn’t that church give NOI Minister Farrakhan (and that I in NOI is for ISLAM, after all) a Lifetime Achievement Award? Wasn’t that a “signal?”
It is in Obama’s INTEREST to have it both ways–to be a Christian to American audiences, and to be the “Taquiyya Kid” in the Islamic world. It’s way better to be perceived as concealing one’s faith than RENOUNCING it….because then, in the eyes of Muslims, he becomes an APOSTATE. And in that case, he gets thrown under the Islamic Express bus–along with fellows like the Cartooning Danes, that lovely Somali born Dutch politician/atheist, and author Salman Rushdie.
Can’t have that, see?
He’s got to play the game, and pretend that he NEVER was a Muslim, when the truth is simple–he was born a Muslim, he practiced the faith sloppily until he was ten, he was “nothing” for a while, and then he became a Christian.
That’s the simple truth. It’s just “simply” too tough for him to be honest about it, though.
BRAVO!
No. Questioning Obama and exercing free speech has become a crime thanks to Obama’s supporters.
Oblowme’s Muslim family keeps fighting to put women in veils. Strict Sharia law is HELL.
Comment by roseeriter | 2008-07-18 13:21:43
Its not the religion BOTS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That would be Obama’s first cousin Raila Odinga. Interesting character… like maybe Idi Amin was.
I don’t care if he is a muslim. I voted for Keith Ellison who is a muslim. No one’s religion matters to me, however when it comes to being POTUS, I need to be able to somewhat trust my President. If I cannot trust him to be honest about who he is, how can I trust his judgement on cabinet positions, etc. I will not vote for someone who is so afraid I will not accept him as who he is that he has to lie constantly. I also do think that for POTUS it may matter if he is muslim in how we are viewed by the rest of the world. While it may not be a problem with middle eastern countries, it could cause other countries not to trust this administration. This year we need to improve our image! I am not certain Bafraud can do that. In fact, I am not certain about anything with this guy and he could clear up alot if he wanted to! In fact, I will not vote for this guy because I have no idea who he is and what he believes! All I know is that he lies. Not a great quality in a person, let alone POTUS!
It matters a helluva lot to me as their religion guides them.
I’d vote for an atheist if I had that great choice over any of these religious nuts.
I agree, Susan. I don’t care what he is. It’s not the religion, its the fact of who he is. The postitons hes taken, then not taken. All the other stuff.
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
It is not a crime. According to Obama himself, it is a “smear.”
I guess his own cousin in Africa “smeared” him by saying that the Messiah was once a Muslim. Another relative thrown underneath the Obama bus!!!!
That lie was pumped out by Fox News and later retracted by Brit Hume of Special Report about two weeks after Oblerman started giving Fox grief about it.
Why does Olbermann hate muslims?
After his FISA vote, the whole dang country is under here, get comfy, it’s gonna be a long election.
ahhhhhhhhh another obots comedy tag team ..of Mo and Curley..i mean Paul and Havoc..on the loose…run for cover…before they smear some of their awful..smelly bullshit on you!!..they have bags and bags of that crap…..and they are” hopey – hopey “…to get someone to buy it.
check your shoes..make sure they didn’t drop any in your path..but the stink can not be disguised..there is no perfume strong enough to mask the rancid odor..
fly
Obama supports the DRAFT
http://www.obama-wire.com/calltoservice.htm
Don’t be fooled by Obama — we all know that he can’t be trusted.
this speech leaves the door open for him to call for involuntary service in the Military or Peace Corp, not just the public service that we all assume The Liar meant would be voluntary — and he can still pretend that he was “consistent” when he calls for the draft.
The draft is inevitable.
does my local militia count as public service?
it will under Obama…
Obama calls for a draft — and the media is strangely silent. One would think this would sink him. Can you imagine if Hillary called for a draft?
I can certainly imagine how they would react. His youth support would drop like a brick if he told them he planned to bring back the draft.
The “civilian national security force” is what he will use to make sure we are all drinking his Kool Aid.
It is what every dictatorship needs to control the masses.
That’s what the O’boy finds “beautiful” about the Islamic “Call to Prayer”. Total control, and total conformity.
I WILL NOT DRINK THE KOOL AID
The idea of “Civilian National Security Force” really scares me. That is way too much centrally controlled power.
Did anyone read the International Herald Tribune article regarding the cast of hundreds advising Obama on foreign policy? In particular, there is an emphasis on how there needs to be a tougher response in Africa (reference below).
If Obama gets into the White House, no doubt he will push our military into Africa. Anyone think he will help his cousin Odinga get into power?
Yes, he will get our troops out of Iraq—and right into Africa!
“Obama’s core team is led by Susan Rice, an assistant secretary of state for African affairs in the Clinton administration, who has pushed for a tougher response to the crisis in the Darfur region of Sudan, and Anthony Lake, Bill Clinton’s first national security adviser, who was criticized for the administration’s failure to confront the genocide in Rwanda in 1994 and now acknowledges the inaction as a major mistake.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/18/america/18advisers.php
good that Obama supports the draft..then his little minions can all go to war for him..and rejoice their savior and messiah..
shame.. they will miss all the kegger parties and raves.!!
well …they reap what the soe..
Oh and my kids are too old for the draft..so let these little snots..i mean bots go to war for their chosen one..but they best not attempt to whine around me!
Heck from what i see of many of them..they can’t even make a damn bed..or work a job without bitching. Gee.. does that sound just like their chosen one???????
fly
The point is not that there is anything wrong with being Muslim, or any other religion, for that matter.
The point is that Barack Obama probably lied about it.
If Obama’s father was a Muslim, Muslims consider that Obama was, too. If his mother enrolled him in school as a Muslim and he was taught to recite the Koran, as many Muslim children are, there is nothing wrong with that. If he subsequently decided to embrace Christianity, Muslims might not like that fact, and may consider him to be an apostate, but it’s perfectly legal for anyone living in the West to change religions.
Obama could have said that his religion was nobody’s business. He could have said that his mother exposed him to Islam because of his stepfather, but that he had never thought of himself as Muslim. But he said he had never been a Muslim and had always been a Christian. Possibly, in his heart, this is his subjective truth. But according to how others see him, if a Muslim man has a child (and Barack Obama Sr. was a Muslim) that child is also considered to be Muslim.
If a Jewish woman has a child, that child is considered to be Jewish.
Roman Catholics, and most Christian faiths, baptize infants shortly after birth, and consider them to be Christians.
It’s not a US law, but it’s how people have been classifying themselves for hundreds (and sometimes thousands) of years.
Why would Barack Obama lie about his birthright?
Paul and his cronies just don’t get it. Their comments don’t defend Islam, but rather lie after lie after lie…… So, who really are the good guys?
so because others don’t agree with your idiocy, they aren’t “good people”? lol
you obamaBOTS are making asses of yourselves
Hahaha yeah I’m sure that’s exactly how this entire thread will be seen by the rest of the actual still sane America.
Playing the sanity card, I see. Gotta give the rest of the deck a shot, huh?
I’m sorry.
Bacrackhead Oblowme is a gay Muslim Manchurian candidate that married a Black Power militant, hates America, enjoys “terrorist fist bumps,” and has the reincarnation of Hitler disguised as a Jew running his campaign.
Phew, back to reality.
Dave, I worry about you. Why do you make such racist rants? Is that what Obama is paying you for? I know you’re supposed to steal threads and distract bloggers from engaging in free speech but I think you’re coming unglued here. Must be hard with the flip flops everyday and trying to defend your messiah, I understand. You should go take a break and regroup a little, get out in the sun for a bit. Then come back when you’re nice and refreshed you can attack and distract Americans who are trying to engage in free speech. Why do you hate free speech Dave?
David Axelrove DOES look like Hitler.
Dave now plays the Troll Card. Earn those scraps, Dave. What card will Dave drop next? Tune in to Obamaland to find out.
Dave is easily annoyed. He has very thin skin, can’t take a joke. Reminds me of his messiah Oblahma. Maybe they’re related. Who’s to know as everything Oblahma says about his family seems to be…..refined. Dave better watch out if he is related to Oblah, because he’ll probably end up under the bus.
I believe when Dave gets lonely at night, he trolls the websites and leaves messages. He may have left one on this very site.
The Islamic “Call to Prayer” is a beautiful sound if you love totalitarian societies that force their citizens to believe and behave to the wims of the dictatorship.
Sure… if that is what you are into, and the Obama kool aid kids fit that description, then the Islamic “Call to Prayer” is the thing for you!
Ladies – Get your Burkas now before there’s none left!!!
even jesse jackson called him a N#$$%^ . thats pretty sad when your own civil right activist says he wants to cut your balls off. someone needs to take the entire hussein obama campaign out. now that would be sweet.
And I used to know the Catholic mass in Latin – and I’m Jewish.
This is the kind of thing that give NQ its reputation.
Being able to recite the prayer, and loving it above all else is quite different.
I am not ready for my President to be in love with a religion that proclaims “Death To The United States”.
Give me some time though… maybe I’ll warm up to it…. NOT
That’s not the point. The point is he dissed his own religion because he was afraid he wouldn’t get elected. What kind of integrity does he have if he denies his own religious upbringing so he can get elected? The fact is, he WAS born into Islam and probably practiced it as a child. Why the $%^#& can’t he stand up and say, “Yes, I was born into Islam. I converted to Christianity as age X. Islam is a wonderful religion and many Muslims are wonderful people.” Instead he says he was never Muslim and has been a Christian all his life. The point is he LIED and DENIED his religious upbringing because he wanted to get elected. In the process, by denying his religion, he basically shuns all Muslims.
Once again, an Obamabot totally misses the point. Do you have any critical thinking skills, Paul, or do you simply drink your koolaid and get your marching orders every day? The point, once again, is about lying about who you are. Got that? It’s about lying.
Maybe if the “good” Muslims would speak out more about Mosques like this one in Virginia, they would not have that problem.
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/021366.php
http://gto7.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/head-of-virginia-islamic-school-arrested-protesters-demand-shutdownabc-7-news-2
Read that and then tell me all about how wonderful Islam is.
Being able to recite the prayer, and loving it above all else is quite different.
I am not ready for my President to be in love with a religion that proclaims “Death To The United States”.
Give me some time though… maybe I’ll warm up to it…. NOT
FIRE BREWING IN THE DEM PARTY
WHOS GONNA GET BURNED?
MIROR MIROR ON THE WALL WHO IS THE BIGGEST FAILURE OF ALL?
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/firebrewinginthedemparty.aspx
LOL, I saw Nancy’s comment about Dubya and thought, “how special, it’s like the pot calling the kettle black”…what’s Nancy’s approval rating at these days? But you know, she’s too busy doing her job that is why she wasn’t aware of the Misogyny toward Hillary and women.
You’re a failure, said the 4 percenter to the 23 percenter.
HAHAHA.
more good news from former Dukakis campaign manager Susan Estrich:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/estrich-nervous-revelations-about-obama-reality/#comment-395
all muslims should be terminated from our grand society. especially hussein obama.
I’d like to slap you in the ass with a wet towel, you shit disturbing liar.
every muslim in my country should be shot on sight. pretty soon we’ll go nuts on these peasants like our history dictates. you f345 with us well kill all of you muslims with a big nuke.
you’re crazy! Why are we allowing these comments on here?
The trolls are getting more violent.
Someone needs to delete this, like, an hour ago.
Please get back on your meds.
Please go away and take your BS with you.
Muslims are beautiful people. What is his problem?
ohhh, forgot- the big lie. I’ve been distracted. ‘folks’
Terrorists are evil. Agreed. Just like the thugsin our major cities. They come in all colors,genders and ages. Except they’re domestic The new euphemism of our times: crime.
Not one word about this situation.
Yo, Hillarrry ~ Billllll yoohoo.
Where TF is Kathy Bates when we need her?
Rodney King? Can’t we all just move along?
Please Please let it be true ..Play it loud and play it proud
It’ll be on right after the Whitey Tape.
Stop trying trying to distract from the topic. We aren’t like you running off to every shiny thing.
Paul if you need to be told/spoon fed how the game is played you’re an amatuer trying to play in the big leagues. Enough said.
Won’t need a whitey tape on Michelle, when you’ve got Al-lahhhh morning prayer by your’s truly – without a telepromptor, no less.
That’s why you’re here PAUL-Y. Chief dive in front of the virtual train ’cause virtual world Obama’s circuits are FRIED.
“Won’t need a whitey tape on Michelle, when you’ve got Al-lahhhh morning prayer by your’s truly – without a telepromptor, no less.”
That’s bull- you know just as well as me that in this great Christian nation of ours Muslims are legally restricted from practicing their religion of hate and murder.
Then again…if Obama wins…that could all change and we could have them living right next to us and never know it!!
Dave, you might want to try thorazine to help with your delusions. No, the dog next to you is not chanting.
I’m worried about Dave too. I recommended some rest and a cup of tea but you may be right, time for some meds.
I never the needed the Whitey Tape. I tried to read the Princeton thesis which was basically impossible. It was a poll and I only needed to skim it with a pencil and eraser in order to tabulate.
On what merit did that woman actually receive accreditation for that P O S from Princeton.
Probably the reason why you, folk, cannot have access to it until 11/05/08. Save your pc memory ~ 99 pages of smut in the 20th century.
Not really, though. Its been under lock and key because it is an effin joke. Incredible, really and truly. (1200-400-88=0 but bogus slop).
Words Matter? Do not be deluded.
Who needs the “whitey tape’?, not me. And now, if you don’t mind, may I please eat my slice of the pie?
oBOMBalamadingdong LIED!!!! GASP!! SAY IT IS’NT SO BATMAN!!!!
ROTF LMAO!!!!! That’s GREAT!
POW!!!!!! Ker’PUNK! Wowsee! Holy Moley, Nasty Pigrossi is the Featured Guest Star!!!!!!
Same bat Time~Same bat channel: NOT!
Let’s do a bio on her HighandMightyness, Madame Freaker.
OOOOOOOOOooooooooooo…Obama is nothing but a LIAR!
Please be true…show it while he is away with the tv anchors.
OBAMA TELLS GLAMOUR MAG “TELL ME TO MY FACE”: Problem Is Obama Is A Coward To Stand Face To Face With A Real Challenge.
http://larrysinclair0926.com/?p=512
Sean Hannity called Hussein Obama out last night and challenged him to come on the show and he would say everything he’s been saying to Obama’s face.
Obama doesn’t even have the guts or courage to face Sean Hannity, I can’t even imagine how he would deal with hostile world leaders.
He won’t do it. I am sure Hannity knows it. Obama is afraid he may have to answer a question.
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Can you believe this?
Yes they’ve ran a totally respectful campaign unlike Hillary or McCain. I can see that. Funny I remember things like this throughout the primary and worse. As an everyday occurrence.
I still can’t figure out why they don’t return to their own kind on Huff Po. They must taint everything with their malicious and violent speech. Ariana Huffington is responsible for a lot of this. Look at what John Cusack said in an approved op-ed.
Cusack then approvingly quoted from the late drug-addled journalist Hunter S. Thompson saying America now looked like “a Nazi monster” and denounced conservatives as “flag-sucking half-wits” who “speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us — they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis. And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.”
Sounds like the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. And if you have any misplaced respect for our press, read this and you might change your mind.
HuffPost blogger Peter Mehlman, a former Washington Post sports reporter and Seinfeld script writer, baldly declared that Adolf Hitler was a better man than President George Bush, because even though Hitler tried to eliminate the Jews, “the Bush administration is the first that doesn’t even mean well. You could argue that even the world’s worst fascist dictators at least meant well.”
This one could be oddly prescient, though. That’s the most worrisome part. Bush had his father. Obama has Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle and John Kerry. These idiots and crooks should be run out on a rail. Talk about crypto-fascist scum. (I missed that one. This year “ratfucker” is back, though… poor rats.)
Nearly six years of lies, incompetence, lies, hate, lies, corruption, lies and war. Misguided, meaningless war that has destroyed the landscape of Iraq and the souls of the Iraqi people. And what has the war done for us, other than line the pockets of Bush, and his father’s friends? …DeLay may get away. Cheney. Novak. Armitage. Rumsfeld. All your crypto-fascist scum, as well. Bush, too, who will have no trouble raising money from his war-profiteering friends for a library which, I would imagine, will be the most poorly attended of any in our history. That’s one certainty we can see on the horizon. Bush really is the worst president in American history. I almost feel sorry for him. Talked into the whole thing by his Dad’s cronies. Unskilled. Unprepared. Just a bible in one hand and a copy of the “The Prince” in the other. How many of us knew this would never come to any good? How many of us could smell this guy 500 miles away?
Even Michelle admits Obama stinks. We smelled him coming a long way off, too, but you have to come here and harass us.
ATTN: Can anyone find the video interview of Barack Obama and Michelle on Oprah to promote his book Audacity of Hope? I remember watching it, like more than a year ago, I believe.
I so very vaguely remember Oprah saying that they went to the same church…and O might have talked about his Muslim background. It was just an upbeat show and Oprah loved him–it was like a pre-endorse Endorse.
Oprah also sells transcripts of her previous shows, but I am not sure if he was a headliner or a drop in guest…like he has only on for half the show.
I see there is also an Oprah’s Cut interview with Obama in 2004, I think, but my flash media player is not working.
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/200411/omag_200411_ocut.jhtml
Not sure if this is what your looking for for Oprah.
Your right the video doesn’t work. Oprah, probable pulled it.
Can we fix it? Er, uh, Can we change it? YES WE CAN —Bobama the Builder http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00064AFIC/ref=dp_image_text_0/105-8236147-4386009?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd
well that’s an image that’s just waiting to be ’shopped.
That’s not the barky I knew!
[...] Obama knows Muslim call to prayer in Arabic, but not how many states are in the U.S. [...]
Yes, that will really bring in the conservative evangelical vote…
I really think that Ayers and Dohrn are already bringing the conservative evangelical vote or was that Wright, Pflegar, Farrakhan ? Don’t know who Rezko and Auchi are bringing, someone with lots of money though .
I hope there is a surprise guest on the bus soon, Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who will squeal like a little pig.
Nobama ever !!!!
I’ve heard about this in the past – he says something like “there no more beautiful sound than Muslims being called to prayers in the morning…” and then proceeded to chant one – with the proper accent and pronunciation.
This might be the source – I seem to recall reading about it about 1 1/2 months ago relative to Russert or all that blather that was going on about that time.
I was wrong – he likes the sunset prayers, not morning prayers….
From isrealinsider….
“On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.”
OH NO HE DIDN’T
And your source for that knowledge is…..???
Probably A. Hussein Coulter and the same people who brought you the whitey tape.
Where’s that tape, again?
Probably sitting in a box next to Larry Sinclair’s evidence of blowing Obama.
and so the fact that as a teenager his mentor,his uncle frank ,was frank marshall davis member of the communist party USA and a leading proponent of black liberation thinking.it doesnt matter about the call to prayer his associations with davis and ayers are enough to disqualify him from holding office or for that matter any federal job with a security clearance let alone potus.so put thatin your hopium pipe and smoke it.
“and so the fact that as a teenager”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
OK, seriously guys…stop. This is too much- bout to blow a gasket here.
From Kristoff’s 03/06/2007 interview published in the NYT:
“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he (Obama) said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
Obama has denied knowing or studying other religions. Knowing about a religion does not make you an adherent to the religion. Oh hell! what is the use!? Some of you just want to hate Obama that you’ll cling to all sorts of crap.
Bots are getting nervous, bringing up their favorite distraction point! Don’t ya just love it when the bots get all nervous like that!
There you are!! Here to help spread the love?
I’m sure you’re just here to tell the Muslim haters that they’re not welcome…right?
The bloggers here are not muslim haters. Obama is the one who denies his muslim background. Obama was the one who did not allow 2 muslim women to sit behind him at a rally. We just don’t like liars. Especially liars who think their lies qualify them to be POTUS.
He’s the one who says being called a muslim is a slur/smear.
Seems like Obama suddenly doesn’t like Muslims too much.
Or are you Obamabots forgetting how he treated those two Muslim women at his Detroit rally last month?
Haha !!!!
Nobama ever!!!!
This is true, all you need to do just say this shahada, then you are a moslem.
Oh dear. My Baptist minister/college lecturer on world religions is in big trouble. He recited it many times during the semester.
Yikes. Ya know I was raised catholic, went to CCD and all that, but I stopped attending mass years ago. And for the life of me, I can’t remember squat…except maybe the Hail Mary and the Our Father. And I still consider myself a Catholic…so if Barky can recall and chant Muslem prayers what does that make him?
Much more intelligent than you.
Depends on how you measure intelligence. As far as I can tell, the
myth about Obama’s intelligence is uh,uh, uh, mmm, uh, uh, uh,
clearly related to his ability to uh, um, uh uh, mmm, read a teleprompter.
Yea, clearly it’s not related to his attending Columbia and Harvard or being the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Or being a best-selling author and writing many of his own speeches. Or being a lecturer of Law at one of the nation’s top law schools.
I’m sorry that he doesn’t have the squinting abilities of John McCain.
Obama’s college years was his coke years also..
“Obama’s college years was his coke years also..”
Damn shame you obviously never had your own college years.
Uh oh, caught talking down to the unedumacated again- another lost vote for Barack! The agony!
Perhaps he just prefers colloquialism and informal grammar in his leisure time.
Oh Paul, mr I is a collitch graduate
want to read the sentence again and maybe correct it?
Obama’s college years was his coke years also..”
Only crackheads snort coke in college. Most people just drink beer and have sex.
Amen to that…the sex part especially.
Crackheads use crack, a/k/a cocaine base, not cocaine. Get in your insults now. Come November I’m going to ask other pro Obama folks to join me here for the pity party when McCain loses.
Crack is crack, buddy.
Will you be here chanting “four more years” for Bush again? Oh, my bad I confused Bush with Obama again! It’s so HARD to tell them apart now! It’s even harder to tell their supporters apart! lol Poor Obamabots, did you not get the memo that people hate Bush?
Let us bow before Beorge Wussein Obusha!
‘00/’04/’08/’12/eternity
Crack is made from cocaine. duh
Wonder if bo got in any freebasing lately? Freebasers smell really bad.
“Crack is crack, buddy” No. Crack is technically known as cocaine base, a Schedule II controlled substance. Check out Title 21, United States Code, Sections 802 and 841. Frankly, some of you blather such fantastical crap, i.e. super delegates will switch, the whitey tape will surface, and this newest b.s., the uncovered Muslim evidence, will saved the day for Hillary or give McCain the victory in Nov., that I think you smoked crack.
You’re familiar with the code? Pharmacist or convicted under it?
Educated! you pathetic fool
and what oh wise and illuminated one did he publish while editor of the review and what judge did he clerk for?
Where he got in as a legacy minority applicant on a free ride pass/fail.
He never authored anything worth reading or quoting.
uh, uh, mm, uh, It is obvious by your comparison skills that you
have um , uh missed his obvious lack of judgment.
Guess, they didn’t teach that, at uh, mmm, uh, Harvard. Obama
spent 20 years listening to one “lecturer” who most, uh, mm, uh,
people wouldn’t listen to for 20 minutes. ( i could go, on but
why should I spend my morning talking to a person who has no
base in reality)
As I have said before, regarding McCain vs. Obama.
A hero is better than a zero. (squint, squint)
Or his being an International Affairs major of said illustrious college who doesn’t know that the Victory Column he’s to stand before in Germany celebrates Germany’s victory over France.
Hahahahahah
“I’m sorry that he doesn’t have the squinting abilities of John McCain.”
…nor McCain’s honorable service in the U.S. military, nor McCain’s vast political experience in the U.S. Senate, nor McCain’s long-standing proven stances that went against many extreme right-wing Republicans’ wishes – such as strong support for renewable energies and technologies (ie: McCain voted AGAINST the Bush/Cheney “oil” energy plan – Obama voted FOR it),………….
No Teleprompter, Big Problem
Dude can’t remember what city he’s in, but this he remembers. it’s time for obama to QUIT!.
57 states, that’s all I gotta say.
Actually I think it means he is easily influenced.
And YOUR brain the size of a mustard seed.
Ah, but I have faith in it.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…IT’S A DUCK
OR A TERRORIST
“HATER” is another paid Obama blogger spreading smears against his master Obama. Lay off the crack, Obamabot. It’s Dave’s turn.
and a fraudulent duck at that
“so if Barky can recall and chant Muslem prayers what does that make him?”
Comment by roseeriter | 2008-07-18 13:21:43
Its not the religion BOTS
MUSLIMS SUCK
imustprotest…where did you go?
Paul is a troll….why aren’t you correcting Paul, Dave? Why are you so bias?
Dave why do you hate bloggers?
No, Muslims do not suck.
Radical ones who hate America do.
NO ALL MUSLIMS SUCK ESPECIALLY HUSSEIN OBAMA WHO IS THE WORST OF THEM ALL HE WANTS TO TURN AMERICA INTO SHARIA LAW.
SAVE THE COUNTRY, VOTE THE WHITE GUY. HASN’T LED US WRONG BEFORE.
Hillary supporters are awesome…hey, Stephen Mather and imustprotest, where’d ya go?
Personally, I’m ready for another diatribe about how only Obama supporters spread hate and the PUMA’s are peaceful lovers…been a slow day and I really need a laugh.
PUMA IS PEACEFUL TO ALL PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO LIVE, NOT THE MUSLIMS WHO WANT TO KILL US ALL.
MCCAIN’S SURROGATE SAID IT TODAY. THEY WANT TO KILL US ALL.
PUMAPAC FOREVER
Hey Obot, Axelrod says your shift is over. You can go back to your video games now.
*giggle*
Your caps lock is on.
lol
Can these troll posts be deleted? They are meant to rile up organic Obama supporters who see this blog and scan the comments. Paul aka HATER is doing his job quite well.
It was on a news clip for just a brief time that the irans where chanting death to americans,,,your dem party wants to talk to them about it…maybe the dems will give them some of our money tooo what the hell , they give it to anyone who isnt american anyways
Dave, it hasn’t been a slow day. Lots of news about your messiah. You are only interested in mocking and ridiculing the people on this blog…why do you hate people Dave? There are therapists who can help you with that Dave.
Dave, my mind is going, I can feel it
How come no one has taken Steven Mather up on his offer to debate issues?
Obamabots don’t debate issues, they just create them.
Radical Christians who blow up abortion clinics suck too.
So do radical sons of wealthy businessmen who bomb the Pentagon. The worst was when Ayers planted a bomb in the car of a federal judge. It shook their house when the bomb detonated in the night, but the children could have been in it in the morning on their way to school.
William Ayers one of Obama biggest promoters because of the political power he had through his father, Tom Ayers, CEO of Commenwealth Edison (Exelon). Ayers put Obama on the Board of the Woods foundation and made Obama Chairman of the Chicago ANNENBERG CHALLENGE GRANT.
Your holding Obama responsible for things Ayers did when Obama was a child. Seeing as how you feel so strongly there was no way you supported Hillary. The Clinton white house commuted the sentence of two radicals from the same group.
Ahh but BOBO hung out with them.
A former Gov. of Ark. is one of Bill’s heroes. he was also a racist. Therefore, Bill is a racist and Hill, by marrying Bill is also racists. Perfect PUMA guilt by association logic.
Having Hank Arron as a hero never made anybody the home run record holder. Association is just that…association. LOL hanging out with.
Who had served jail time, doofus.
Radical anythings suck big time.
Simply said yet so true…
Well Kellie…. you found something we agree on.
Of course being Muslim isn’t against the law. But I’ll tell you what is against the law. Sharia Law that includes Polygamy and murdering your daughters like that pig in Texas who’s hiding out did and like that pig in Georgia did last week did IS against the law in this country and it’s going to stay against the law.
What say you?
They call these honor killings. Well, if this is so, why is he hiding out? Should’t he be sasheying around bragging about how he murdered his little girl for his honor?
Burkas heah
get your Burkas heah
Come on ladies…. if the Chosen one is elected you know you can’t go to the rally without a Burka
Burkas…. Burkas Heah
I sometimes imagine a fed up woman whipping a mac10 out from under her burqa and taking care of business.
Knock it off, ya boner. Islam actually gave rights to woman that they never had before, such as the right to own property and get a divorce. It’s like any other religon and can be used to control people and to push whacked beliefs. The issue is why Barky is lying about his Muslim background. Not the religon itself.
Couldn’t hold it in anyone, huh Paul? Racist! lol
“What may be damning about the interview, the transcript of it and—especially—the original tape recording is that Obama allegedly provided Kristof with a recitation from memory of the Muslim call to prayer in Arabic.”
So when do we start locking up all of the Muslims in the United States in concentration camps?
“One of John McCain’s fellow POW’s in Vietnam defended the war in Iraq, saying, “The Muslims have said either we kneel or they’re going to kill us.”
…
Colonel Bud Day added: “I don’t intend to kneel and I don’t advocate to anybody that we kneel, and John doesn’t advocate to anybody that we kneel.”
Muslim leaders have complained that they have been vilified as terrorists since the Sept. 11 attacks.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/18/mccain-surrogate-the-musl_n_113594.html
THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING! OH MY MARY JESUS, THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING!
Again, you’re missing the point, oh brain dead one, he lied about his past…again. This doesn’t bother you? Why lie if you have nothing to hide, unless you’re an idiot. Oh wait, he is.
no more likely the marxist and their secret police are coming to get those of us who wont bow down to barky.now the govenor of new york says that if barky doesnt win its because of racisum.BULL SHIT,keep saying this garbage it will assure those of us that we are right and he is a fraud.
he said if BO doesn’t win, it’s a victory for racism! What a dumb, race baiting MoFo.
Le Nouvel Observateur: Former CIA director, Robert Gates, says in his memoirs: the American secret services assisted Afghan mujahedeen six months before the Soviet invasion. By that time, you were President Carter’s adviser and you played a key role on this. Do you confirm it?
Zbigniew Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of the story, the CIA began to assist mujahedeen in the year 1980, that is, after the invasion of the Soviet army against Afghanistan on December 24, 1979. But the truth that remained secret until today is quite different: it was on July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed his first order on the secret assistance to Kabul’s pro-Soviet regime opponents. That day I wrote a memorandum to the President in which I told him that that assistance would cause the Soviet intervention (…) we did not force the Russian intervention, we just, conscientiously, increase the intervention possibilities.
NO: When the Soviets justified their intervention by affirming they were fighting against a secret American interference nobody believed them, though they were telling the truth. Don’t you regret it?
Z. Brz.: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. Its objective was to lead the Russian to the Afghan trap, and you want me to regret it? The very same day the Soviets crossed the Afghan border I wrote the following to President Carter: «This is our chance to give Russia its Viet Nam» (…).
N.O.: Aren’t you sorry either for favoring Islamic fundamentalism and providing weapons and consultancies to future terrorists?
ZBrz.: What is the most important thing when you look at world history, the Taliban or the fall of the Soviet empire? Some excited Islamists or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War? [4]
Zbig is giving himself too much credit.
The Soviet Union did not fail because of a quagmire in Afghanistam. If fell because of a high tech arms race with the US.
The old Soviet Union had a financial collapse due to spending for a war with the US and Europe, not Afghanistan.
Ziggy Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter didn’t support the Shah in Iran and let the Radical Shites take over, they let Iran kick sand in the face of every American. Now Ziggy and the Internationalists are back promoting another unqualified candidate lacking the TESTICLES to be the DECIDER. These folks are bad for America, they don’t care about this country, just like Obama.
Americans don’t kneel to humans. Fuck that.
Maybe if the “good” Muslims would speak out more about Mosques like this one in Virginia, they would not have that problem.
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/021366.php
http://gto7.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/head-of-virginia-islamic-school-arrested-protesters-demand-shutdownabc-7-news-2
Read that and then tell me all about how wonderful Islam is.
He is so conceited that he couldn’t resist showing off and so shortsighted he couldn’t foresee the consequences.
“The issue is not whether Obama was ever a Muslim.”
Yes, but it amazed me when he publically denied ever being one. It made no sense (he had an atheist mother and a Muslim stepfather and lived in a Muslim country, but he was raised as a Christian?); his statement could be shown to be untrue by talking to the right people in Southeast Asia; and being caught in such an unneccesary lie would be damaging to his credibility.
Of course, this was months before the flip-flop season of June and July…
Obama never stated that he was raised a Christian. In fact, he has repeatedly said that he never attended church until he moved to Chicago and found the Lord. He was a non-believer!
Do people here ever try to get the story straight, or are you so scared of Barack that you to busy ducking and hiding that you can’t see the truth if it bit you?
Attending a Catholic school in Indonesia would be considered a Christian upbringing… DUH!
Lets get ONE of these tapes out there please. I believe you but the time is NOW…
tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock….
Why do people feel they have “protect” Obama from any contoversy?
It makes me sick the way the media treats him. IF this were info about Hillary it would be put out there asap for all to see and read.
The issue, from what I understand, is that the Islamic course in Indonesia that required learning anything in Arabic was limited to the devout. That Obama said the Call to Prayer was beautiful is merely an esthetic opinion. However, being able to recite it in Arabic, from memory, may very well be a big deal indeed — especially given his insistance that he is not now, nor has he ever been, a Muslim. Why deny it, if it’s true? Is he ashamed of it? That is an insult to Muslims and Islam. Or is it merely that he thinks it might prevent him from getting elected – in which case he is nothing but a liar and a coward, attempting to become President by fraud.
Uh oh that sounds bad.
Mommy help me. We can’t let the big scary Black Muslim man be President.
No , that should read “Mommy please don’t let that lying sack of shit be the president of the United States!”
how about the neophyte waffler?
he’s not big or scary (unless you consider being a lightweight scary)
he’s a complete hack
who just happens to be black
still he is a hack
He’s an arrogant punk user.
Obama uses his “scary black Muslim” talking point the way nerds ask, “You wouldn’t hit a guy wearing glasses?”
He isn’t big and he is only barely black.
You mean personally you, Paul, are afraid of a black man?
Why else would you bring it up? LOL
Hint: the agitation tactic isn’t working…but go ahead and waste your time.
There’s enough stuff to dislike Hope-a-Dope for without this issue. I’m a half-backsliding Catholic, despise the concept of Sharia law (and Sharia banking and Sharia investing) and, thanks to many, many sunrises and sunsets in the Gulf and Turkish Black Sea ports, I can do a decent Call to Prayer, ad lib.
Once, on a Brit ship with Lascar seamen (running from San Diego to the Mexican Riviera) it was my job, five times daily, to tell the Muslims in Arabic via PA system in which direction Mecca bore, the better to face the appropraite wall during prayer.
But, do you find it the “prettiest sound in the world”?
Being able to recite the prayer, and loving it above all else is quite different.
I am not ready for my President to be in love with a religion that proclaims “Death To The United States”.
Give me some time though… maybe I’ll warm up to it…. NOT
I vote for babies laughing for the prettiest sound in the world.
According to two former fellow students (both CEO’s in Indonesia) he was a Muslim. Sources also indicate that he was devout with reference to the Islamic course you mentioned.
Also, perhaps he practiced the Muslim call to prayer on one or both of his two trips to Karachi, Pakistan as a college student during Spring Break (a time of war and unrest, with Taliban crawling all over Karachi).
I agree. It’s terrible he can’t tell the truth, but what is worse is that his followers follow suit, and the lot of them are proud of their abilities hide the truth.
So when do we start locking up all of the Muslims in the United States in concentration camps?
OH, ABOUT 9/11 we decided to take a closer look, but hey, feel free to attend your local Mosque, take your GF, oh forgot, NO WOMEN ALLOWED.
Does it make you sad to know that you’re so full of hate?
We’re all God’s children.
yes, we are unfortunately Obama’s followers never learned right from wrong.
That and integrity, honesty, and the experience to know the importance for a leader to posess such qualities- which Obama doesn’t. He’s a sham and a puppet.
Well excuse me!!. I`m a little pissed off at DAD right now, for allowing my “Bro” to get this far.
Who’s God paul?
Your’s and mine might be two different things.
My hindu friends have a whole sac full.
Truth is Obuma LIED, and that makes close to a hundred flat lies.
The last Democrat in the whitehouse got impeached for lying.
Obama will be dog meat by November.
Unless your father strangles you for “Honor”. These are the muslims we object to, not Muslims, THESE muslims. This cannot be tolerated in America. In America, killing your two daughters in Texas and hiding or killing your daughter in georgia is not “Cultural” it’s murder. Would you agree or not agree? Same goes for polygamy.
In America, women have many rights we have no intention of letting anyone take from us. So you can see where our outrage over these things is not without reason. That’s not to say all Muslims do these horrible things to women. But some do and they are showing up here. They are very bad PR for Muslims who do not practice these things. Their silence about it is not a very good path.
As for Obama, his problem isn’t whether or not he was a harmless Muslim, as most are, but because he is a pathological liar.
WTF are you talking about? Please have a designated poster when you write shit drunk.
Note to Kellie, Paul, and Dave:
When all is said and done, we are still not going to vote for Obama. We are not going to change what we do here. You have no power here and you are wasting your time.
Comment by roseeriter | 2008-07-18 13:21:43
Its not the religion BOTS
Saying that the Muslim call to prayer is a beautiful thing is about as offensive and controversial as indicating appreciation for the sound of church bells calling parishioners to service. They are essentially the same thing.
Show of hands: how many of you have actually heard the call to prayer with your own ears, in a Muslim nation? I have, in Malaysia–and it really is quite amazing. Does my thinking as such make me Muslim?
Then why lie about it?
Maybe he he lies about really being muslim because for political convenience he joined a “christian” church. Turning Christian is a death sentence for Muslims.
Though in their belief it’s ok to lie to infidels, so it either makes him a liar or a guy with a price on his head.
Quotes around christian to indicate that tucc is as christian as a bag of mulch.
And of course all the trolls here with their “since when is it illegal to be a Muslim?” BS, missing the point either accidentally or intentionally in order to paint us as Islamophobes.
Here’s the point, which should have been obvious all along: It’s not Obama’s religion. It’s the likelihood that Obama has been LYING about his religion. It’s the likelihood that our party is about to nominate someone who is NOT WHO HE APPEARS TO BE and is actively LYING about his background.
Now, I understand that to True Believers, this means nothing. Obama can Do No Wrong with you clowns. But you’ll have to pardon those of us with somewhat more curious minds, who would like to look under the hood before driving a potential lemon off the lot.
Get it now? I doubt it.
What deceit? What does the OP prove? There is nothing written above that argues conclusively against Obama’s assertion of his Christian faith. The OP wants us to believe on the basis of the unsubstantiated existence of a tape of Obama’s interview with Nicholas Kristof that his recitation of an Islamic prayer is proof positive that Obama is (or was) a devout, practicing Muslim. This is a patently absurd argument. How many of you know things about other cultures, religions, political systems, etc, but are not in any way affiliated with groups or organizations that practice or preach those things? I can quote at length sections of the Bible even though I’m an outspoken atheist. I could discuss with you any of a number of aspects of the cultures of Eastern Asia even though my ethnic background is Swedish and Italian.
Are any of you even remotely capable of thinking analytically? Or is it just easier for you to inhale the insane rantings of random douchebags hiding behind the anonymity of the internet?
Well said John.
For those curious minded people the realization that many Americans simply do not care whether their President has a sense of character and feels a duty to promote what is right over what is wrong is beyond troublesome.
Those who come on here simply to argue or cause havoc have no justification for promoting a candidate who lies to them repeatedly.
I’m a lyingsackofshitophobe.
M.N.: Bingo! Well said.
Darn! My very first post, and I mess it up. Sorry, MN, I was complimenting John.
It’s NOT the being Muslim that’s the problem.
It’s the LYING.
You know I could care less if the fraud is a Muslim, I have muslim friends, what I HATE is that he is deceitful!
And the media in this country are the stupidest in the world!
One, the tradition in Islam is if either of your parents are Muslim, you are born a muslim, and while he may be a christian now, that is the truth!
And two, his half-brother in the UK has already given an interview to the BCC stating that he was a practicing muslim in his teens.
My muslim friends no longer support the fraud, b/c he hides his muslim relatives and backgrd like its something to be ashamed off! They are backing Mccain now.
The fraud is not only an inexperinced snob, HE IS A LIAR AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Barack were a Muslim, why would he attend a Christian church for 20 years? Was it a part of a big drawn out scheme to pretend to be a Christian for 20 years, then run for the presidency? Damn, Obama kept his “secret Muslim religion” to himself for a long time!
The theories here obviously have never passed the level of being simply a hypothesis.
I would contend that Rev. Wright is far from mainstream christianity.
your argument pales in the first sentence.
For future references don’t start debating with an “IF”. You lose right there.
hot green
New Yorker article tells how Obama was very ambitious and told many people about his political plans for himself.
That is why he sat in a church for 20 yrs to become a ‘christian’ for political purpose…and to get in with the movers and shakers in the AA community in Chicago
n 2007, Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong’, at that time.”
“He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”
Upon Dunham’s divorce from Lolo she sent 10-year-old Barack to live with her parents in Honolulu, while she and his half-sister stayed in Indonesia.
There is little or no mention of Obama and religion for the next 15 years. When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago’s South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people — pastors and congregants — who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, “Where do you go to Church, young man?”
There were personal and political motivations for Obama to belong to a congregation, as well.
So, Obama finally joined a church, in part to deepen what one friend called “a whole web of relationships” in the community that gave him a strong political base and a well-connected mentor.
Obama’s church is preaching Black Liberation Theology and is much more closely related to the Church of Islam than main stream Christianity.
Regardless, Obama wants to put too much religion into the government.
I was appalled when BU$H started that faith based money train and now O-man wants to expand it.
That alone is enough to run screaming far away from his presidency.
PUMA
Its enough for me to quit my job. But I am married to my daily bread. (*)
I’ve been on this plantation since ‘54. Or else its all just been a dream.
As is my Mom and 4 lovely daughters and their families.
That reminds me who is the candidate for P O S’
Mom? I like to get to know her, even ig it is posthumously. American Woman, don’t go a-waaay.
p o s = piece of shitobamarod
Show me not his TUCC baptismal cerificate. Show me the pictures of that glorious day when he decided to be saved and journey unto redemption.
Important bio data and fodder for the next canononic bio. ‘Revelations’, the sequel. According to St. Asselrod. (I cross my mind, lips and heart). Anything else? Curtsies went out with Susan B. Anthony, *b*
Time to stage a Baptism, Axelrod. I heard the River Jordan is on the itinerary. St. George will slay the dragon$.
Just say NoSoros!
If that’s a christian church, I’m the queen of Sheba. See, there was this guy Jesus who said things like love thy neighber as thyself, that what you do unto the least of these (people) you do unto to me. Now see, that is what a Christian is supposed to be.
Someone should post that picture of Obama again which shows him dressed in Muslim garb with his half brother. Obama was 23 at the time. Why dress as a Muslim if you’re not one? That same brother recently wrote a letter from Kenya stating how proud they were of Obama because he was a Muslim! His relatives beleived that Obama was a Muslim when Obama was an adult, 23 years of age (pre TUCC, of course). Who, besides Obama, gave them that idea?
Betcha it was a Halloween party. If not, it probably will be on fight the smears pretty, soon.
Rememeber that? Needed to vote agains american funding to fight all those smears.
How is this site doing since its inception?
Screen Shots, Anyone?
Doth thou protest too-eth much-est? First Dicktaster in our entire history. All 238 years.
Hill and Bill save us, please. See Patsy…soldier4us/usa
see the new post about PUMAPAC:
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/puma-passion.html
Why wait so long,… If all this stuff comes out after the convention. Can Hillary still jump in? Or is she out, for good?
Hillary for Prez
She is out for good. Don’t waste your time.
Don’t worry. We’re all voting for McCain, if the Democrats nominate Obama.
Obama supporters accuse Obama opposers as being full of hate. What a laugh. It is Obama supporters who issue death threats to those who oppose “the selected one”.
That being said, as others have said, if Obama is Muslim, it might not be relevant. But lying about it is very relevant. And justification to oppose him.
the only relevancy about Obama being a Muslim is how the Islamic world looks views it.
Under their laws any Muslim that becomes a Christian is an infidel that is subject to the punishment of death.
I think the real reason to support McCain over Obama is because John McCain is such a great supporter of women in general. For example, this week he told this joke:
“Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’”
That’s the kind of man Hillary supporters need in the White House!
A man like John McCain who, when he got rich and powerful, got rid of his old wife and got a much younger, prettier new wife!
John McCain is the MODERN DAY AMERICAN EXEMPLAR for gender issues.
Support John McCain!
Nice subject change.
Yeah, we should definitely support a guy who ran a vicious, racist, sexist campaign against the Clintons, bullied old people at caucuses, and convinced the DNC to steal delegates from his opponent because…well, because John McCain told a sexist joke twenty years ago.
Yep, works for me.
Hey moron, do some research. He told this joke back in the ’80s and got a lot of flack for it.
And obviously ass slapping your wife in public is soooo much classier. Yuck.
A very leftist newspaper said he told that joke in 1986. Get your facts straight!
It’s pretty bad when you have to pull out a 30 year old joke to try to prove a point.
Geez, take my wife please.
We do!!!
That was an example of a 50 yr old joke.
Might as well bring out the really old stuff.
Subtlety is lost on youse. (didn’t was to use the dreaded you people)
Listen Josh, John McCain did not tell that joke, you did, so you are the sexist idiot not McCain. As for McCain’s private life, you do not know anything about his reasons for his divorce so you should keep your big nose out of his personal affairs as they are his and his alone.
The only thing that you can say about McCain is that he has the experience and background to be President, Obama on the other hand was a state legislator and only got there by crooked means. Somehow George Soros paid off Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi to be sure that Hillary was forced out of the race. Good luck with your false God.
Translation: MSNBC and the Official Obama Website aren’t talking about this stuff. Therefore, its untrue.
Because the only non-partisan organizations that have any business giving us information about Obama are MSNBC and the Official Obama Website.
Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann agree: Obama Rocks! Why won’t you haters be assimilated?
Comcast just took MSNBC off my cable..I think it is a political statement…LOL! And I won’t miss it for one second.
lmao that’s hysterical!!
And the delusional elite snot nosed brats you just mentioned will be yelling at the tv screens in NOV
LEAVE BARRY ALONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
WE WANT TO BELIEVE
YES WE CAN
as he gets hauled off to jail for trying to steal ANOTHER election!
That is so funny. Non-partisan msnbc. hahahahahahahah
Paul sounds a tad unhinged. Take a nap junior.
Paul’s confirmed it with his mommy: Obama is the most honest man on Earth, Santa Claus is real, and daddy did NOT run away with the secretary; he died defending our freedoms in Iraq!
UNhinged! Good word! I think that every time I see Keith OR Rachel lately! Even WULF BLEET ZER sounds hysterical.
Somebody should rub Obama with bacon.
If he’s Muslim you’ll know pretty quick.
If he no longer claims to be Muslim, then he’s an apostate, and therefore subject to death by other Muslims.
Wouldn’t that make him a National Security risk?
Assuming he can get a clearence that is, since it is known that he is a liar.
Pork Pig would know.
Michelle made a strong point of telling the ladies on The View that his favorite breakfast was bacon. Although, I guess it could be turkey bacon that she was referring to.
i knew the call to prayer after 2 months of traveling in southern Thailland. I’m not muslim. From weddings and bar mitzvas, I know blessings for wine and bread in hebrew- I’m not Jewish either. Big deal.
It is DISGUSTING to insinuate that knowing a beautiful prayer disqualifies Obama from office. Are we really all xenophobic biggots now?
bring on the Allahu-Ackbar tape- I welcome it.
r u really that thick?
shocking!
it’s not the MUSLIM part it’s the LIE you dumb rat boat occupant!
Funny, he can’t remember how many states we have or where he is half the time, but he has a sharp recall of words he heard almost 30 years ago.
yes imagine that little factoid!
I haven’t been to church in YEARSssssss and I still remember the Lord’s Prayer
but then I’ve never denied that I grew up Protestant or was embarrassed about it
I am a bit embarrassed about the couple years I spent bordering fundamentalist Christian
woo that was close! LOL
What lie?
Phoby,
What is DISGUSTING is your complete denial of the truth. What is disgusting is your superior attitude when your only predictable attribute is an uncanny ability to hold your breath with your head so far up your ass.
I don’t give a shit if Obama can sing every show tune on Broadway. You simple minded dipshit, its about the FACT that the sonofabitch LIES all the time and you continually excuse it.
So, you phony, ignorant pile of fecal matter…
Go fuck yourself
On March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times that Obama was not a “practicing Muslim.”
But Muslims do not see practice as key. For them, that Obama was born to a line of Muslim males makes him born a Muslim. Further, all children born with an Arabic name based on the H-S-N trilateral root can be assumed to be Muslim, so they will understand Obama’s full name, Barack Hussein Obama, to proclaim him a born Muslim.
Obama’s father was a Muslim. Obama’s grandfather was a Muslim. Obama’s stepfather was a Muslim. Sarah, who Obama calls grandmother is a Muslim. Obama’s stepbrothers and stepsisters are Muslims.
Obama’s sister Maya was quoted by the New York Times as saying, “My whole family was Muslim.”
For a time, he was educated and lived as a Muslim. Only Obama knows what he is today.
But his official website says: “Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian.”
This is the basic problem with Obama — his dissimulation.
Baracknophobia…Its one thing to listen and find it beautiful,its another thing to be able to recite it.By the way..It’s Allah Hu Akbar..Please pronunced it properly…Muslims are taught to speak Arabic when they are young..As all the prayer and books are in Arabic.So,Arabic are not natives to Muslims in Indonesia,Singapore or Malaysia or any other muslims world….However why would Obama wants to recite the prayer??Does he know that the first pharased was to redifined yourself as a muslim that we will trust no other God than Allah Swt
The only hysteric hater on this site right now is you Paul. The article, and comments (exept yours) clearly indicate that the ISSUE here is Obama’s propensity for secrecy and lying for political advantage. Who cares if he’s a Muslim? Who cares if he’s illegitimate? He could have used this history in a positive way to actually make himself MORE of a uniter, but instead, he lies, denies, and distracts. THAT is the issue and definitely disqualifies him to be Commander in Chief. After 8 years of Bush/Cheney, and all Obama’s “talk” about transparency, his dishonesty and hypocrisy are the last thing this country needs.
Look at Paul go: he is practically having a panic attack over this information. Calm down there boy. Don’t worry, the press will bury this and everyone will come running to his defense as always. Truth has no bearing this election cycle.
well said…I don’t care if he’s muslim either. I think what concerns some people is that Obama sat in a racist, American hating church for 20 years-NOW THAT BOTHERS ME. Connect the dots. Even Obama’s kindergarten followers can do that I bet.
If Obama gets the democratic nomination for sure in August, and if Obama is elected president in November, our nation needs a civil uprising because lunancy is in control of too many people. Either we are going to be a sane nation comprised of at least a majority of sane citizens or we just accept the fact that we are no better than any other nation on earth.
With this in mind, we need to open the eyes of as many people as possible. I have discovered that way too many people I know watch CNN and MSNBC exclusively and this is the only place they are getting their political news. These people claim to follow political events very closely simply because they are boob-tube news addicts. Sadly, it is only in recent times (since Hillary was ousted by the DNC) that I have learned just how myopic people actually are. The sadness that comes from this awareness is rooted in the fact that it is hard to hate friends for being drugged by TV reporter’s flapping jaws spouting nonsense, or reporters completely ignoring facts.
Addressing a stranger on the web as an Obamabot is easy to do but doing it with a friend is difficult if you want to keep friends. Little by little I slip sanity into my converstions with friends that are still hooked on Obama. They defend him, of course, but you can see the weakening around the edges. It is hard to defend insanity and their eyes reveal this; they don’t know what to say. Usually they jump to attacking McCain since they have no response to a saner view of Obama.
Yes, people do defend insanity left and right but it is difficult to sustain this defense in the light of reasonable opposition. The trick to this is not to give up and stand firm with sanity, allowing people to “wake up” slowly enough that they will not freak out at seeing the light of reason.
I do not care what Obama believes in. He’d get my vote if he were an honest man but he’s proven over and over again that his life is one enormous lie.
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.
He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.
In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”
According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama’s teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.
“I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” Tine said.
Obama himself recalls, “In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies.”
Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”
“The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.”
“As I’ve stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”
1972
In 2007, Obama’s classmate Rony Amiris describes young Barry as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.
“We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny,” said Rony.
Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry’s father were very devout Muslims”
Rony extrapolates further, that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a Muslim to the be President of the United States.
Why is the MSM ignoring all of the facts out there that prove he was a Muslim, and a practicing one at that? And, yes, it is a free country and he can change his religion, but why lie about it? What bothers me especially is that he joined TUCC for political reasons (to gain street cred and get elected in Chicago), but did he really adopt the Christian faith, or is that all a lie too? Many of Obama’s friends in Chicago were Middle Eastern, and his pastor was also a former Muslim and supported Farrakhan, and visited Lybia twice with Farrakhan.
Kinda makes one wonder if he believes the democratic values of the Democratic party.
If you lived in Indonesia that long and DIDN’T know the call to prayer, which you’d hear at sunrise, sunset and in the evening EVERY DAY, you’d be pretty slow.
It’s the LIE!
This is one of my favorite sites. I come here to listen to all these Obambi supporters twisting in the wind, trying to make this snakeoil salesman relevant. Its humorous and tragic at the same time. Our country is in peril and you jokers want to put someone in power who has no clue. Which is why if Hillary isn’t allowed a floor vote at the convention, John McCain will be #44.
A little off topic.
Yahoo news headline: Will mcCains association to bush cost him the election?
Let me see, talk to bush, lose. Hang around with domestic terrorists that bombed the pentagon and a house with a sleeping family in it, steal taxpayer money for friends who are now in prison, lie every day, accept discount loans for a house you can’t afford while your people die in the heat or cold. hey, no problema.
It seems quite a few children were left behind, dropped on their heads and damaged by their hippie parents’ drug use.
are YOU really that thick?
You don’t have to be a muslim to memorize a prayer you hear from the loudspeakers of mosques EVERY DAY.
I know how to bless wine in hebrew and I’m not jewish! this proves nothing other than Obama’s worldliness and apreciation of the beauty of prayer.
Only a Marxist would think a Call to Conformity prayer is beautiful.
True Americans and REAL Patriots love FREEDOM not CONFORMITY.
UNhinged! Good word! I think that every time I see Keith OR Rachel lately! Even WULF BLEET ZER sounds hysterical.
They are running as fast as they can to come up with constantly needed excuses to cover for Obama’s implosion. I mean, just look at this situation: after 8 years of the WORST administration in American history, he is only TIED with the Republican. THAT is how weak a candidate he is. It’s pathetic.
Rachaels weird sneer is permanantly plastered and is almost as disgusting as OCrappaBomma.
are YOU really that thick?
You don’t have to be a muslim to memorize a prayer you hear from the loudspeakers of mosques EVERY DAY. MULTIPLE TIMES DAILY.
I know how to bless wine in hebrew and I’m not jewish! this proves nothing other than Obama’s worldliness and apreciation of the beauty of prayer.
How many times?
You NEED to lay OFF the BOOZE!
Start reading and watching and speaking LESS and LEARN something about what’s REALLY going on with your MASTER!!
And quit acting like you are a PUNK by breaking and entering into a blog you are NOT welcome or appreciated!
You RUIN YOUR
BOYGUY by coming here unwarranted. YOU and your comrades have done as MUCH damage to BARRY as he has done himself.no bug off and be a man (or woman) and try doing something constructive with your life or for your candidate cuz THIS sure ain’t it!!
over and out
morons. if you ever have the priveledge of living abroad for a while, you’ll notice you are memorizing stuff from other cultures.
Baracknophobia..memorizing a muslim prayer is not a cultures..Its an adaptation and a reminder of one muslim to pray…
asswipe
I have lived in more countries than YOU I BET!!!
And I can speak some Korean, French & Spanish so STFU COUNT SNOBBULA
I’ve also WORKED IN OTHER COUNTRIES not just visited them like some friggen tourist!!
again so STFU
oh my apologies to “tourists”
hehe
Translate this prayer to Obama for me:
embrassez mon âne
Hint: it’s not Arabic or Farsi
or this
besa mi cula blanca
wow this thread grew!!
yes he’s an embarrassment and yes he can kiss my white ass too! LOL
not sure about your spellings on either
not sure of spalling either, my Spanish was learned working in East L.A. so it’s mostly verbal.
or my spelling in English, for that matter.
OK, I yield to noone in my disdain for the Anointed Precious, but this is all veering very closely to anti-Muslim ranting here and it really needs to stop.
There is PLENTY to dislike about the pandering empty suit without insulting an entire faith.
this PUNK TROLL below is just following orders!!
ignore it
most of us are NOT haters of any religion only the people that hide behind it and use it as an excuse to kill or hold others DOWNNNNNNNNNNNn
like barry’s going soon
downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
make that the punk troll ABOVE me named hater and baracknaphobia something
not like I have to remind anyone
CAN OBAMA LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT?
Hi Everyone,
I think everyone should maybe wait until next week to see if this hits the fan. I did not find anything to confirm or refute this story.
Maybe we need to contact the A ttor ney General or our congressmen, and get them to look at it too!
I received the message below and have searched for something to dispute it. There is nothing on SNOPES to dispute this.
CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?
It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president, after all, for the following reason:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between ‘December 24,1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen, if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.
US Law very clearly stipulates: If only one parent was a U.S citizen at The time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the Age of 16.
Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means although she had been a U.S. C itizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so, for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to
qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen As aformentioned, she was
a young college student at the time and was not yrs 21 of age. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President***. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who ne eded to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in
Indonesia… Now you can see why Obama’s aides topped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this
information will be leaking through over the next several days.
Isn’t it reasonable to assume that if he truly was not born in the U.S. as a natural born citizen, then, he still isn’t a citizen? Would he not have to apply for citizenship? So, of which country is he a citizen?
Citizen, and Natural Born Citizen. Not the same things in the legal sense as required for POTUS.
No one argues that Obama is not a Citizen of the US.
Is he a Natural Born Citizen? Donno… he has some splainin to do….
Well since he was born in the U.S. to a natural-born parent (why would her age matter?), it would seem logical he would be considered a natural-born citizen.
If some technicality were in play here, don’t you think it would have come out long ago? I frankly wish it could be that simple!
I know the constitution doesn’t define “natural-born.” Does anyone know, are there statutes or legal precedents?
So….what does that say about McCain then?
Moron. So every serviceman or woman’s child born through out the world on military bases everywhere are not natural born citizens? Douchebag, military bases are considered US territory. Perhaps if you’ve ever served you’d know that. Gawd.
fif- what do you mean he’s tied?? do you mean in POLLS? we don’t believe in those here because of the MSM’s Obama bias.
I don’t think is is mostly about whether or not he is a Muslim but why he seems to not be telling the truth. I have read his books, in one he is asked is he a Muslim and his reply is, grandfather was, well why if he was not a Muslim he did not reply with just a NO. You want to learn the man read his books folks, they are worth it. His laughter at white people. BTW the school he attended in Indosnia is a Muslim school, my son has friends who live there.
I don’t think it is mostly about whether or not he is a Muslim but why he seems to not be telling the truth. I have read his books, in one he is asked is he a Muslim and his reply is, grandfather was, well why if he was not a Muslim he did not reply with just a NO. You want to learn the man read his books folks, they are worth it. His laughter at white people. BTW the school he attended in Indosnia is a Muslim school, my son has friends who live there.
For the Bots who keep bringing up the “Whitey Tape” Larry. Alan Colmes asked Karl Rove about it last night on H&C show. Mr. Rove did not deny it’s existence full heartedly. He simply said in a sneaky round about way, “I would be surprised if such a tape did exist.” He knows better and so does Obi and MO and Obots. If Colmes is throwing this out there now, it appears to me that the tape is more than just a blogsophere rumor. There surely must be truth to the rumor. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Maybe some brave soul is getting ready to let the “Whitey Tape” rip and the “Sheet Hit the Fan and fall where it may” Around Obama’s lying ass.
I read the transcript. Then they began joking about it. “I don’t have it. Didn’t I give it to you?” “Nope. I don’t have any whitey tape.” “Oh, well.”
Your hopes and dreams.
Obama lied about his past. That is why he wrote the book. To try and establish a lie.
Is that difficult to understand? Why are the supporters of Obama insisting that the bloggers here are anti-muslim?
Evading the issues, aren’t they?
Yup.
show me where he said “I DON’T know the muslim call to prayer” and I will agree he’s a liar on this one.
That’s just silly.
Obama is whatever you want him to be. He is whatever is politically expedient at the time. I have no doubt that he used his Muslim credentials, as weak as they are, to advance his career at one point. Just like he later used Rev Wright and black liberation theology to advance his career.
The problem is Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth. He wants all the benefits of having some sort of insight into muslims because of his father, stepfather and life in Indonisia, but he doesn’t want to stick his neck out. The same with Rev Wright, Obama wanted all the benefits of black liberation theology but none of the risks, so he threw Wright under the bus as soon as it became politically expedient.
People should pay attention, this is Obama’s method of operation. He doesn’t stick his neck out for anybody or anything. It’s all about Obama. If he’s elected into office, he’ll throw the people who invested in “hope” under the bus too. Ask those in Chicago who lived in that housing without heat.
The troll above managed to side-track the discussion, so it’s important to actually provide the link here and let readers go to the NYT column by Kristoff and see the evidence for themselves. This is a pretty damning column in that it reveals Obama (a person claiming to have been “raised a Christian”) is actually far more closely acquainted with Islam than anyone formerly knew. Here’s the link. I agree with the poster: let’s have the tape, NYT, and hear a candidate for President reciting the call to prayer in Arabic.
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Well it is amazing how the truth will eventually come out. The Obama File (google it) has kept factually record on this for the past year.
Trust me, conservatives know about these facts. Hannity knows this and is rolling this out bit by bit. It is just coming to light to allow Obama to be the Democratic Presidential Nominee so he will fail against McCain.
I told you, conservatives know their biggest threat is Clinton, not Obama. Because if Obama is accurately painted as a unpatriotic muslim (which he is) along with his wife. He will be worse than McGovern or Dukakis even with black and youth votes.
Once again the Messiah proves his unworthiness to become POTUS by lying about his past. He lied about FISA, gun control, Wright and the Trinity Church and so on, and despite all that, his neo-Nazi-like supporters and the MSM prefer to turn a blind eye to his lies in order to help him seize the presidency illegitimately.
Look for Andy Martin’s book coming out in July titled:
Obama: Man Behind the Mask
Andy Martin has been doing research on Obama for years and says he can prove Obama is Muslim.
This book is a tell-all about Obama and is coming out next week.
Hmmmm…Obama planned his trip the same time. Another attempt to escape confrontation???
Andy Martin, the anti-semite? Who’s publishing his book – Kinko’s?
But the Obama cultists love the anti-semite Rev. Wright and are fine with Obama attendinag a church that prints Hamas propaganda on its bulletins.
I’m not a xenophobic anti-muslim but it is my duty to inform xenophobic anti-muslims that Obama might be hiding something!
I FEEL GREAT ABOUT MYSELF!!
The Islamic “Call to Prayer” is a beautiful sound if you love totalitarian societies that force their citizens to believe and behave to the wims of the dictatorship.
Sure… if that is what you are into, and the Obama kool aid kids fit that description, then the Islamic “Call to Prayer” is the thing for you!
Obama is a Marxist. That is why he sleeps with Zbig. That is why Obama loves totalitarian societies and symbols.
That is why Obama wants to cut back on the Military and have a “Citizen Army”. So he can keep tabs on us. Make sure we are going to his “Call to Prayer at the Kool Aid Trough”.
He wants us all to conform to his whims. That’s why he has the Obot Brownshirts assigned to every blog.
Ladies – Get your Burkas now before there’s none left!!!
when I sleep at night I feel warm and fuzzy nowing I indulge the lowest common denomenator of small minded American islamophobia. Hillary would be proud of me!!
All the rumors could be put to rest if the American people had access to Obama’s past. Birth Certificate, School records, Passport information …
Is it asking to much to see the background of the man that wants to be our President?
The more secretive he is the more I think he’s hiding something.
nice try paid bloggers/trolls,
“”Barack Obama’s half brother Malik said Thursday that ……..the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya.”
”
need to realise Malik gave interviews to many sources.. the Jpost was one, BBC was another
http://sunlituplands.blogspot.com/2008/06/malik-obama-confirms-his-half-brother.html
Again, people will hate how he is more deceitful…he lies ABOUT EVERYTHING.. VERY CONSISTENTLY!
Lord have mercy! this was reported extensively on Fox when the interview took place. Later, after KO and others, showed the interview was translated incorrectly the first time Brit Hume at Fox retracted the story. Now, you knew that. Admit it. Facts, however, mean nothing to you. Its just the MUST HATE … OBAMA nuttiness that has infected your mind.
Dave Axelrod, Is that you interpreting the news for everyone again?
Another lonely Friday night in Chicago?
Deal with the specifics of my retort to the earlier posts, if you can.
you didn’t deal with specifics. Somebody put out a quote and you said that’s not true.
Obama lying about his Muslim roots is as offensive as his ’stagecraft’ of moving those Muslim-Americans from behind him.
Why should I vote for a man who doesn’t honor ANY of his family because he is too busy backing the bus over ALL of them?
Obama lied again? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!
I mean he isn’t a pathological liar or anything is he?
Identifying a Pathological Liar
* They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying “I brushed my teeth today,” when they didn’t.
* They add exaggerations to every sentence.
* They change their story all the time.
* They act very defensively when you question their statements.
* They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn’t.
Here’s an alternate “checklist”:
* Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth.
* Lies to get sympathy, to look beter, to save their butt, etc.
* Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say.
* May have a personality disorder.
* Extremely manipulative.
* Has been caught in lies repeatedly.
* Never fesses up to the lies.
* Is a legend in their own mind.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_tell_if_someone_is_a_pathological_liar
Yep, that’s Obama. Mr “I Never Said UMMMM Ahhhh” Obama.
I really don’t want to, but shall I post all of Mrs. Clinton’s fabrications?
Well we don’t want you to be repremanded by mr Axelcrap, so go ahead. post.
We’re talking about the lying sack of shit, Barky. What you’re trying to do is deflect. If you want to bash Hillary, get your own blog, and spew away. And guess what? You won’t have to worry about any of us trolling over there. You’re not interesting enough. Besides, I’m not worried about Hillary, she can take care of herself. She doesn’t need a bunch of communication majors on summer break, being paid 7 bucks an hour trying to ’splain her positions.
Listen, kellie, sweetie, I saw your posts re what you think of hillary. Here’s the thing. We all know how to cut and paste. It is a very easy thing to do. Trouble is nobody wants to read those ridiculously long posts filled with crap. Why don’t you go get a nice respectable job at Burger King and stop trying to run with the big dogs.
What the little tramp, kellie, fails to realize is that all those charges against Hillary were brought about by the right wing assholes who spent 70 million trying everything and anything to bring down Bill and Hill. Anything. And all they got for all that dough spent was a lie about a blow job. If there was any truth to anything that little strumpet kellie posted, the Clintons would have been run out of town long ago.
“Little tramp” isn’t that kind of mean, Sweetie.
I call ‘em, like I see ‘em, dickweed. They don’t call me Strawberrbitch for nothing.
Cokeheads are the same way.
“The Islamic “Call to Prayer” is a beautiful sound if you love totalitarian societies that force their citizens to believe and behave to the wims of the dictatorship.”
okay bigot. how come you can hear it 3 times a day if you live near a mosque in New York then? Are you anti-American? The call to prayer can be heard wherever there are mosques.
Isn’t the call to prayer five times a day?
NY trumped the number of calls the mosque can make and you are fighting imaginary dragons here?
Why aren’t you standing up for your Muslim neighbors and fighting the good fight?
Church bells aren’t silenced in NY are they?
Geez….you lazy bigot! What is wrong with you!?
When “Church Bells Ring” it is not compelling anyone to do anything.
The Islamic “Call to Prayer” Compells Muslims to pray at that moment.
That is not FREEDOM. That is Not AMERICAN.
I will not be compelled to do anything. I can go to my church and pray whenever I want. I do not have to CONFORM to the schedule of the church.
NO, I WILL NOT DRINK THE KOOL AID.
How come in my Christian Church I can come and go and pray anytime I want day or night?
I do not like being told when and how I must do ANYTHING. PERIOD.
THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME A REAL AMERICAN.
Not a conforming ROBOT like OBAMAKIDS on KOOL AID.
AND I ESPECIALLY DO NOT LIKE BEING TOLD WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW TO PRAY.
NOPE NOPE NOPE……. there is nothing “Beautiful” about the “Islamic Call to Prayer”…… Unless you are a HATER OF FREEDOM.
Remember the Eloi? Whistle blows and they all go into the cave.
3pm every Friday. Yep.
The man is not credible.
Only those radical Muslims who seek to undermine our country and kill us are those that we need to be concerned about. No one should seek to demonize an
entire group of people.
It does place an added responsibility on those members of the faith in this country to be vigilent
in their own communities agaist more radicalized
elements.
Guys, given his current history, think about it: it is MOST unlikely that Obama wrote his own books. It is unlikely that the Obama books sold to the top of lists without major help. It’s unlikely that he writes his own speeches.
Why we should believe anything this guy and his handlers say is beyond me. The man has been suckering folks all his adult life.
PUMAs GROWL!
I thought he was God – Allah – Abraham and the Pope all rolled in to one.
Hillary would be so proud of everyone in this thread, especially Johny At Work. Keep fighting the good fight guys! you rock! This is politics at its best.
Oh shut up.
Oh-OH Johnny hit a nerve?
I have been talking about Obama’s love for Islam and Marxism for Months. Yes it is true, and not an unfounded web rumor.
Nicholas Kristofs is an admitted Obama FAN. Not a hater. And he wrote all about Obama’s love fest with Islam.
See it on my blog: http://nobho.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-muslim-is-he-or-isnt-he.html
““I was a little Jakarta street kid,” Obama said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on Nicholas D. Kristofs’s blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school….
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
If the tape of that interview gets out, the pary is over for Obambi.
yes. it will be over if he calls the “call to prayer” pretty. Wright didn’t damage him, but apreciating the beauty of a prayer will sin his candidacy as surely as BERNIEMACGATE!
There is nothing Beautiful about anything that requires all of us to conform. The Islamic “Call to Prayer” is exactly that, a call to conformance.
If you love FREEDOM, there is no place for a Call to any Religion.
Obama is deceptive with campaign numbers:
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-donor-base-shrivels-campaign.html
No. They had over 700,000 donors in June. The campaign claims to have 1.5 million donors TOTAL.
They have never said that all 1.5 million donors donated in a single month.
What is wrong with you people? My boss David Axlerod told me I’m not allowed to call you stupid anymore, so I won’t, but come on!
He’ll need every damned dime. He out spent Hillary 3 to 1. McCain himself, won’t spend one red cent attacking barky. But the 527s will. Hehehe.
Obama is rubber. And you are glue. Soon you’ll get too loud with this filth and Hillary will have to throw all YOU guys under a bus.
I predicted last week that somebody would come up with the 3rd grader taunt of I’m rubber, etc. So there you have it. Time for recess, ya’ll.
The question “was Barack a muslim” is dumb. Who cares? If he was raised muslim, is that his fault? In his 20s he became a Christian anyway, so what’s the point? Just to say “gotcha! I knew you were a muslim once!” I don’t need to know or care whether he prayed to Allah with his family back when he was nine.
The deal with BHO is the guy has no experience whatsoever aside from being a product of a crony-ridden corrupt political machine in Chicago that somehow managed to dupe the DNC into thinking that he’s some transcendental figure even though he lost the popular vote and the majority of straight-up primaries to HRC, and since securing the nomination his campaign has been amateur hour with positions all over the map. I think that’s enough reason not to vote for the guy.
It isn’t that he was once a Muslim. It is that he now lies about it.
And, he lies about everything.
First candidate to use running the streets in Jakarta,using drugs, drinking, belonging to the church of hate whitey as qualification to be President of the United States.
Yes, and what kind of “Christian” did he decide to become…one that pledges his first loyalty to his race (Black) and to the Motherland…Africa.
I do not want this man to be my president.
Nov. 4th= my vote for John McCain unless Hill is nominated.
He did call Africa his motherland when he was campaigning there for his genocidal cousin. Isn’t illegal for a senator to interfere in another countries election?
Paul and fellow pathetic obamabots-
You can scroll down here to where it says “Malik Obama” – this is his half brother and he refers to him as a “Moslem”.
Stop calling us liars-
go whine somewhere else.
Right next to the one showing the antiwar speech that Obama gave, the speech nobody has ever seen that is the basis of his worshippers’ credo. That speech is like the golden tablets Joseph Smith received from the angel Moroni, or the tomb of the risen Jesus. Foundations for religions that only the adherents believe in, and that nobody can prove ever existed.
Like Joe Smith, Obama pulled the speech out of a hat.
No.. wait… it was a dark hole, but not a hat.
He had MEchelle look into the dark hole and read what it said.
That’s how he wants us to believe.
I have known this information for over a year, and have blogged it over and over and the pen soldiers have ignored it. It is great to see them come over to reality and become journalist. Bless the New York Times for releasing this information. As a Judeo-Christian I keep asking how in heaven can a man who calls himself a christian can know the Arabic prayer song? I will give the test that I gave to the Hillary’s camp over some months ago. Let each of you out there that are Christians please go to the Center of the room, now any else of other faiths and unbelievers go to the Back of the room. Hummmmm…..getting pretty crowed in the Central of the Room…….let me see 100 on the Central and 2 in the Back…Okey, everybody in the Central of the room ….lift your hands and start saying our Father who art in Heaven, Hollow be thy name………….hummm…..seems….there is alot of Judeo-Christians here………okey…now everybody in the Central and the Back….please recite the Arabic prayer call……………….Okey…Silence!!!
There I prove my point. The Arabic prayer is for muslim….Enough said!
I have read somewhere that foreigners were not permitted to attend public schools in Indonesia, and that is why he first attended Catholic school. Then he later attended the public school. So then was he adopted and now an Indonesian citizen, and possibly a Muslim.
The issue here again is not the religion, but the veracity of Obama. He doesn’t tell the truth.
I have read somewhere that foreigners were not permitted to attend public schools in Indonesia, and that is why he first attended Catholic school. Then he later attended the public school. So then was he adopted and now an Indonesian citizen, and possibly a Muslim?
The issue here again is not the religion, but the veracity of Obama. He doesn’t tell the truth.
This must be real because we have DAVE and PAUL – Obama Zombies Top Tier liars, front and center on this puppy. Al-lahhhh, Al-lahhhh, poom poom pah, poom poom pah.
I can see one sure thing!!! As soon Obama wins, there will be no more voluntary military, it will be draft start , no more great pauchech, free education, no more pension for You and young man!!!! That is why this mass in Iraq and now in Afganistan and then invasion in Pakistan will be paid .So get Your self ready parents of bous and gfirls for a draft. Party will be over. Just expect mail and get You behind report to duty” defend AMERICA!!! for OIL!!! FOR RICH, !!!
iT IS MY FEELING ABOUT. wE ARE STAYING IN iRAQ, THIS WILL NEVER END!!!
One tip-off would be if Obama washes his feet in public bathrooms.
I worked in an office where the Muslim guys would wash their feet in the men’s bathroom sink several times a day. It was somewhat disconcerting.
Not to mention gross.
I can recite the Nicene Creed from memory because of hearing it every Sunday as a child, despite the fact that I’m an atheist and haven’t set foot in a church in decades. Does that mean I’m actually lying about not being a Christian, or does it mean that if something is repeated to us often enough, we tend to remember it even if it has no particular personal significance for us?
Also, I love the cite to “popular psychologists.” There’s a reason they’re called “popular,” rather than “eminent,” “respected,” or even “qualified.”
Yes, but if nobama’s native tongue was English, I don’t think hearing the call to prayer every day for years would make one able to repeat it.
Anyway, that would not be learning it. That would be memorizing it. You would have no clue what it actually meant.
FIRST FIRST LADY to come under criminal investigation
FIRST FIRST LADY to almost be indicted acccording to one of the special prosecutors
NUMBER of Hillary Clinton fundraisers convicted of, or pleading no contest to, crime: 5
NUMBER OF TIMES that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar: 250
NUMBER OF CLOSE BUSINESS partners of Hillary Clinton who ended up in prison: 3. The Clintons’ two partners in Whitewater wereconvicted of 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy. Hillary Clinton’s partner and mentor at the Rose law firm, Webster Hubbell, pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges, including defrauding former clients and former partners out of more than $480,000. Hillary Clinton was mentioned 35 times in the indictment.
I can see you’ve adopted the right wing fringe talking points in defense of your beloved BOBO. AHHHH it doesn’t matter… right… left… LOL you’re all fringe.
Uh I thought they claim Hillary is out? I think these pod people have the potential to be stalkers. They can’t seem to let anything go. Such pleasant people. The kind you’d really like to have for neighbors. gag, oh sorry.
LMAO I don’t think the BOBOweenies have any idea what they are doing at any given moment.
I’m hardly the fringe, If Hillary were the nominee I would vote for her.
Also, when she was still in the race she CONSISTENTLY scored way below both McCain and Obama on the trust issue in the polls…
Hillary voted against telecom immunity. Just like she said she would. LOL Unlike some people we know running for president..
Hmmmm….wonder how she would have voted if she were the nominee. Guess we’ll never know because she’s not and never will be!
There’s not much wondering involved. She would have voted against telecom immunity as she could still be the nominee.
Ok, I shouldn’t post Hillary’s list of tall tales because she’s not the nominee, but yet you say she could still be the nominee?
You are making yourself look stupid.
As usual.
Ha Ha Ha Ha. You’re having a tough time with the concept of maybe. LOL But you correct our grammer all the time. I’ll tell you what. If The Dems decide to pull their heads out of their asses, recognise BOBO as the pied piper of fringe and reject him in Denver, you’ll have almost three whole months to run against Hillary.. Imagine that! You can rant and rave all you want. We can laugh at you. LMAO It’s win win for everybody
Here’s what you dont get about me. I could care less if Hillary or Obama is the nominee.
John McCain will not be the next President.
Ahhhh but you do care. You keep coming here to bash Hillary. Spend an equal amount of time here bashing BOBO and we might consider (and only consider mind you )that you’re an honest woman.
If you didn’t care you’d hie yourself to a different location. Try huffypo.
Nice:)
Pesky little thing about the 18 million people who voted for her and her 2 term landslide elections in New York.
So let me get this straight. Her 18 million votes count but Obamas don’t correct?
You’re incorrect on that one. BOBO got credit for votes he never received.
Hey Kellie, what happened to your Komrade Paul? He is much better at this than you are.
HOORAY! SHE DID IT. KELLIE YOU CRAZY BITCH.
IN THE 1980s, Hillary Clinton made a $44,000 profit on a $2,000 investment in a cellular phone franchise deal took advantage of the FCC’s preference for locals, minorities and women. The franchise was almost immediately flipped to the cellular giant, McCaw.
HILLARY CLINTON AND HER HUSBAND set up a resort land scam known as Whitewater in which the unwitting bought third rate property 50 miles from the nearest grocery store and, thanks to the sleazy financing, about half the purchasers, many of them seniors, lost their property.
IN 1993 HILLARY CLINTON and David Watkins moved to oust the White House travel office in favor of World Wide Travel, Clinton’s source of $1 million in fly-now-pay-later campaign trips that essentially financed the last stages of the campaign without the bother of reporting a de facto contribution. The White House fired seven long-term employees for alleged mismanagement and kickbacks. The director, Billy Dale, charged with embezzlement, was acquitted in less than two hours by the jury.
If the anal retentive and sexually disturbed Kenneth Starr could not find any impropriety in these allegations, I don’t see how you can.
Ken Starr spent seven-years, and $70 million investigating the Clintons. And came up with NOTHING.
Wait till the Republicans get started on your Obama Boy. They have not even warmend up yet.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid. You’ll need it.
Thank you. kellie is an idiot.
Good retort on Ken Starr. This brings up an issue though regarding Rezko. Obama has been charged with nothing and is not under investigation for anything, yet nutties on this site claim he is corrupt because of his association with Rezko. Any nutties care to explain your inconsistent positions?
Au contraire….
Patrick Fitzgerald IS INVESTIGATING the pay for play system which O’boy was involved in.
Stay tuned kid….
Au contraire, mon frere. Bo is indeed under investigation. Stay tuned.
HRC’S 1994 HEALTH CARE PLAN, according to one account, included fines of up to $5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan, $5,000 for failing to pay premiums on time, 15 years to doctors who received “anything of value” in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy, $10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork, $50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment, and $100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings.
TWO MONTHS after commencing the Whitewater scheme, Hillary Clinton invested $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she had a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.
IN 1996, Hillary Clinton’s Rose law firm billing records, sought for two years by congressional investigators and the special prosecutor were found in the back room of the personal residence at the White House. Clinton said she had no idea how they got there.
DRUG DEALER Jorge Cabrera gave enough to the Democrats to have his picture taken with both Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. . . Cabrera was arrested in January 1996 inside a cigar warehouse near here in Dade County, where more than 500 pounds of cocaine had been hidden. He and several accomplices were charged with having smuggled 3,000 pounds of cocaine into the United States through the Keys
In 2000, Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign returned $22,000 in soft money to a businesswoman linked to a Democratic campaign contribution from a drug smuggler in Havana.
IN AUGUST 2000, Hillary Clinton held a huge Hollywood fundraiser for her Senate campaign. It was very successful. The only problem was that, by a long shot, she didn’t report all the money contributed: $800K by the US government’s ultimate count in a settlement and $2 million according to the key contributor and convicted con Peter Paul. This is, in election law, the moral equivalent of not reporting a similar amount on your income tax. It is a form of fraud. Hillary Clinton’s defense is that she didn’t know about it
(tap tap tap) ….LOL hello in there. The primaries ended in June… it’s now July. Power outage in the little grass shack perhaps?
You claim to still want Hillay as your nominee!!! That makes this relevent.
Actually we want Hillary as the Democratic nominee. There is no WildChild Party… (Heh Heh Heh )at least in politics
We want Hillay aka Hillary Clinton as president. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
What is your fixation with crack?
Speaking of drugs, remember when Obama said in an October 2003 NAACP debate he would “vote to abolish” mandatory minimum sentences. “The mandatory minimums take too much discretion away from judges.”
Obama later said he would “immediately review sentences to see where we can be smarter on crime and reduce the ineffective warehousing of nonviolent drug offenders.”
And then last fall during a nationally televised presidential debate, Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare that he opposed decriminalizing marijuana.
But as a candidate for the U.S. Senate five years ago, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession, according to a videotape of a little noticed debate that was obtained by The Washington Times.
Should Obama’s new campaign slogan be the following?
‘THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY ISSUE AND OBAMA TAKES BOTH”