Alice and Don, Buy a Clue
By Larry Johnson on July 19, 2008 at 6:30 PM in Current Affairs
Too bad the latest letter from two top Democratic National Committee officials is not an imaginary missive from a Hollywood comedy. Under those circumstances the bullshit spewed by Don Fowler and Alice Germond might be funny. But they are dead serious in writing the following:
It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.
I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.
It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.
Don, Alice, you guys obviously don’t get out much and certainly do not know anything about sports. The competition between the Lakers and Celtics in basketball and Federer and Nadal in tennis involved keeping tabs of the score.
They actually earned their victories. They had to score the points. They did not get the title awarded to them by Super Delegates. So cut the horseshit!
Here are the facts. Hillary won more delegates in elections than did Barack. Barack won more delegates in caucuses–events that are not Democratic because only a small fraction of eligible voters can participate in them. Neither Hillary nor Barack won enough delegates to secure the nomination. Both had to look to the Super Delegates to put them over the top.
So stop kidding yourself and pushing the ridiculous notion that Barack “won” in the same sense that a championship team, thru its own effort, earns a trophy. Barack got a gift.
Our beef is that when it comes to a general election, Hillary, who actually won more votes in real elections than Barack, is a much better candidate and has a much better chance of beating McCain. Just because you two clowns want to close your eyes and believe in Barack’s “Yes we can nonsense,” well, that is your right.
But you have no right to insult or disparage those of us who believe Barack is a lightweight, an empty suit, and an old style Chicago politician who has gotten ahead by hanging out with corrupt businessmen and other unsavory characters. Sorry, but that’s the kind of change I am not willing to believe or accept.
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Don Fowler and Alice Germand, please get over it.
If it’s money you need, scrap Obama’s stadium to save $3 million, and convince him to opt back into public financing, he’ll get some public dollars and won’t soak up so many funds that could go to House and Senate races.
Anyone know the numbers on Hillary’s debt?
Ithink they say it was $6 mi.
But, I just got a response to my letter from Don Fowler also. It was just ridiculous and stupid. These guys don’t want to be challenged al all for what they have done to our party to us and to Hillary. Shame on you Don!
The Dem Party via Brazile said they didn’t need us. But apparently, they need our money.
They may get some from me when Obama and his campaign confess their involvement and silence while Obamabots accused the Clintons of racism.
This emphasizes my point. These fakes aren’t talking about the past, but the future. The condition they complain about is “the rules.” The demand they complain about is “to follow the rules.”
If Fowl Fowler and Germond believed in democracy they would never say “it’s time to support Obama without conditions of demands.”
Who the hell do they think they’re talking to? Children? Servants? Lesser beings?
Their arrogance, condescension and stupidity is a very good indication of why so few Democrats have made it into the White House.
Scolding voters is a new technique in getting voters to vote for your candidate. A dumb technique IMHO!
yeah blindly submit
slavish devotion
unquestioning faith in sir hopey changey
and let’s not forget the word of
meeeeeeeechelle must never be challenged
either.
This crap is straight out of 1984 or
the third reich!
and may I had I am enjoying sending back
all those request for $$$ from barry and
the Dnc – empty!
BOWL big time in november!
oops meant to say may I add I enjoy
sending back those empty envelopes!
It’s even a little more enjoyable if you rip the mailing contents into itty bitty pieces and enclose them in the envelope. I know, I am being childish. But, gosh, what was that primary about, anyway? After the RBC decision (I drove many hours to protest) and the likes of Donna B and Howard D, I’ve had it with MY democratic party. They went beyond childish!! NO BO for me!!!(He’s not any way qualified for the job!)
I stuff those envelopes full of fake “demorat” dollars and monopoly money. Make it as heavy as you can! They have to pay the postage
JoseyJ, you captured my feelings entirely — that the O campaign should confess its involvement and silence while O’bots accused the Clintons (and by extension, all of us) of racism. One exception: even if they did that, I’m not sending them any money. Money for down-ticket Dems? Absolutely. But money for the campaign of a corrupt Chicago pol? Never. Let him tap his Rezko network.
Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Tomorrow!
Larry, I got a different feeling about this. I think the “hint”, the implication here, is that they are not talking about caucuses, but the roll call vote. They don’t want a roll call vote. The Nadal analogy fits that better. They believe Obama already “one”. But Obama hasn’t. By rules no one has yet until that vote, the game isn’t over. They are trying to play Hillary as if she were like Nadal after the final point, then complaining he doesn’t get to hold up the trophy.
This emphasizes my point. These fakes aren’t talking about the past, but the future. The condition they complain about is “the rules.” The demand they complain about is “to follow the rules.”
Yesterday they said it was $12 million, not counting the money she put in herself.
I just got a response to my letter from Don Fowler also. It was just ridiculous and stupid. These guys don’t want to be challenged al all for what they have done to our party to us and to Hillary. Shame on you Don!
Don and Co. won’t acknowledge St. Obama purposely divided the party – with assistance (and silence) from the Dem Party leadership!
The narrative has been set as Obama desired: the Clintons are “racists.”
All this WHILE Obama was attending a race-baiting hatemongering church!
This letter appears to have been written by Donna Brazile. Can’t prove it but compare the tone to her op-ed in the Wash Post after the committee stripped Florida of its delegates. (Click on my name for more about her and Rove and this election.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/31/AR2007083101427.html
No it wasn’t “written by Donna Brazile”, but they get together and decide the tactic they are going to use then parrot each other. It has been used by the RNC for years and years. However, it is a failure of their imagination to understand that we are not republicans for a reason. Demands to “fall in line” worked for Republicans. It has and never will work for Democrats.
Even though there are men and women supporting Senator Clinton, the sports analogy never sets very well especially with women even they are sports minded.
Don and Alice — Tell Obama you are not going to pay for the 76,000 seat stadium for his Vanity Acceptance Speech if you have the balls. And how dare you call us immature? Are we immature because we didn’t fall for the fraud nominee you forced on us? It’s you guys who are immature–you thought you would pick the empty suit for an easy life and now he has turned into the nominee from Hell — Told you so ha ha
I agree — if you want to convince someone to get on your side, you should address their grievances. The last thing you should do is tell them “To just grow up!” These guys need a crash course in human psychology.
They said they didn’t need us, so they should just “GET OVER IT”!
(HOPE THEY DON’T FEEL INSULTED)
Jeez,”fatigue and irritation”. Poor Alice and Don
(Although “I” would indicate just one of them wrote the letter– but seeing as dems can’t count any better than repubs–.. Then again, perhaps they were using the royal “we” in sort of an inverse, backasswards manner– as befits our ex-party.)
Anyway, A and D, a lot of us out here kind of take the presidency more seriously than we do the Lakers.
And Marion Jones gave up her gold medals cause she did performance enhancing drugs. And I LIKE Marion Jones. I don’t like Obama, at all. What penalty does he get for cheating, oh sports analogy spewing ones?
I watched the RBC meeting all day Saturday…even during the 3 hour+ break.
Alice Germond is a “weirdo”…She gave me the creeps just listening to her blather on; she disgusted me.
Alice – You want irritation and fatigue?
You’ve not seen anything yet.
The more and more stench I see emanating from the DNC and the Obama campaign just confirms my suspicions about the true nature of 21st century politics. We are just pawns and the powers to be decide which party and candidates turn it is to have power. In a time when the democratic party should be a progressive populist party in the mold of FDR the powers to be are afraid of anyone with a degree of independence, thats how we wound up with Obama and the reason why McCain is getting hardly any press. Obama’s true allegiance is to the money and corporate class just like Bush.
My sentiments exactly, Deke!
Thank you Larry! They need to just get over it and realize we are not going to vote for a freshman senator form Chicago.
^5 {{Larry}} you SAID it!
The MORE they poke that stick the MORE angry THIS PUMA gets!
me too dawnelle…I get angrier and angrier each and every day.
yes thank you Larry! These folks are just not getting it. Absolutely no support for Uhhbama, as he is not qualified and STOLE the dels STOLEN, the RBC STOLE THEM
we arent going along for the ride Don and Alice., and neither are our wallets or our votes.
A moment ago I got through reading the comments on the Denver Group’s letter to the DNC. It looks to me like the letter hit the fan! Considering the amount of trolls it generated in the comments and the vile spewed, the letter’s contents must really sting them! I just signed the letter and so did my friend.
Great post, Larry.
I thought they didn’t need our support? I have 3 words for them
KISS MY ASS
2 words
MINE TOO!
mine 3
Mine 4, 5 and 6 (I have a big ass)
Thanks for the big ass belly laugh stateofdisbelief!
Exactly what I told Baracula the last time he sent me a plea for $$$.
Hillary or McCain ‘08!!!
Don, Alice, you guys can kiss my scrawny white ass. I hope that irritates you some more.
They are nuts, “it’s time to do thus and such”, yeah like they can just F***Off. My vote my choice, thats something they don’t get to do anymore, take my choices away.
Pretty fantastic. You think they are stupid enough to not see they are trying to strong arm us into doing something against our better judgment using the argument we aren’t allowed to use conditions to force them to do their jobs.
They are doing exactly what they are telling us we cannot do. YIKES!!
If these two idiots want to equate a sporting event to this primary then they should choose the 1972 Olympic basketball championship game of USA vs. Russia. The game was rigged where the officials gave Russia 3 chances to win. The players from the US refused to attend the medal ceremony and to this day have refused to accept their silver medals.
“It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.”
I demand Obama withdraw from the race due to ineptitude and a flawed process. That condition is non-negotiable.
Brilliant example thank you!
didn’t know that happened in 72, good for the team for refusing the silver medal!!
obama is a bum — I thought they were going to make nice. This has Obama’s handwriting all over it. He doesn’t want Hillary’s name put in nomination because the Demonstration it would get would drown him out.
Very true. The Dem Party really is the Obamacrat Party now.
No thanks!
We’ll vote for McCain or Nader.
how about Cynthia McKinney? she’s the Green Party nominee
Perfect example. I watched that game. I was eleven years old and still naively believe in the ideals the Olympics claims to represent. After watching as the officials handed the gold medal to the Russians I no longer cared for the Olympics.
The feeling I have after this hellish primary is exactly the same. The corruption and cheating of the DNC and obama have completely alienated me from the dems. I am no longer a Democrat and now I despise the only party I ever belonged to.
ONE WORD:
PUMA!
I have no words. My middle finger is reflecting my feelings.
I have some dirt on my shoulder.
haha, that is self explanatory and universal in every language!
Something here on my shoe…there, glad that’s off.
I have 3 words for the Democratic Party
GET OVER IT
I have 3 letters for Ms. Germond and Mr. Fowler:
GFY!
I see there is quite a stir going on today over Obama and Maliki…
So all the bloggers are giving Obama all kinds of credit for the war coming to an end…Obama who did NOT support the surge….Obama who was opposed it very strongly is now taking credit for it basically…
Are not his plans for Afghanistan to “send in more troops”….is that not what we refer to as a SURGE?
Stole it right out from under McCain when ya think about it…
Did no one see the piece that came out yesterday but now has today’s date on it???
U.S., Iraq Agree To ‘Time Horizon’
Bush and Maliki Discuss Troop Pullout
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071801308.html
Dayum that koolaide must be good.
Okay I am lost.If Bush and the Iraqi P Minister came up with a time table already. What are they giving Senator Obama credit for it?. This should be embarrasing to them there all exicited on the blogs about something that was already discussed
Because even they realize Bush and Obama are the same.
Dear Don, Alice, and the DNC,
NOT ONE MORE DIME NOT ONE MORE VOTE!
Since when does the Democratic party own it’s members? Since when is it required that if you vote or support one democratic candidate you HAVE to support all of the candidates?
I have voted for Clinton twice, Gore and Kerry, and am a Hillary Clinton supporter, but that does NOT mean that the friggin Democratic Party OWNS me, or my vote.
It is my American right to vote for who I feel is the best person for the job. It is the right, and DUTY of every American to vote for the person they feel is the best for the job and who represents who they want in the White House.
I, nor any American, OWES the Democratic Party full support of a flip flopping, lying, empty suit who has not accomplished ANYTHING, has changed jobs every two years, has served 146 days in the US senate, worked 55 days a year in the IL senate, served communities that were devestated by poverty, partly due to the fault of Obama’s good buddy, hangs out with Anti-American ministers and terrorists, and never once spoke out and defended the Former First Lady and Senator from New York against the sexist attacks from the media and his supporters.
What the frick has Obama EVER accomplished that makes him qualified to be POTUS?
Just because he has a (D) next to his name is not a good enough reason.
And the way the DNC acted this primary season, I am not so sure I even want a (D) next to my name anymore.
well said!!
(ciao wodiej!)
How many months have gone by..I don’t know about anyone else but I am still thinking
WHO is Obama and WHY is Obama in the running in the first place.
The Dem establishment ran a newbie empty suit to prevent Hillary being the nominee.
And prior to the primary, they surely knew Obama had the support of the media that concealed damaging info about Obama from the gitgo!
This is the same corporate media that sold Bush in 2000, the Iraq War – and now Oblahma.
amen
right on sara
w00t and BOOYAH !!!
exactly; until the democratic party figures out that nobody owes it anything and they will have to EARN people’s votes, they will keep losing.
I ended up writing a blog about this, expanding on my comment:
First of all, Obama hasn’t *won* anything yet. His nomination is NOT official until after the convention. Obama won the presidency months ago, in his own mind, but he is not the President yet, as much as he pretends, and he certainly is not the nominee yet.
“When Morgan Freeman comes over to greet Obama, the senator begins bowing down both hands in worship. “This guy was president before I was,” says Obama, referring to Freeman’s turn in Deep Impact and, clearly, getting a little ahead of his own bio. Next, a nod to Bruce Almighty: “This guy was God before I was.” (Okay, more than a little ahead.)”
Continued on my blog. (it was too long to post here)
Two top Democrat Party officials?
If that’s the case we are doomed. There is no Democrat nominee because the convention hasn’t been held. There won’t be a nominee until they are selected at the convention.
Unless of course these two are willing partners in the fix to anoint Obama.
Is that the case, Alice and Don, are you in the tank for Obama?
excuse me Don and Alice….but this IS still America! and I own my vote.
I actually changed from dem to repub JUST to make my point. And I will change to Indy Nov 5th.
So there!
now, go away and HOPE and change someone else.
sheeeeesh
thanks Larry.
Well said Larry! Just who do those two UNdemocratic turds think they are forcing an illigitimate candidate down our throats and then insulting us because….GASP….we’re exercising our RIGHT to vote or not for whomever we damn well please?
It’s time to clean house. Not only is Nobama going back to Chicago in November but his Gestapo surrogates who’ve SELECTED him as the party’s nominee over the will of the MAJORITY of the voters to be voted out.
Bravo Larry!
Horseshit indeed.
Hell, I’m about the biggest fan you can find of both Rafa and The Celtics!
What do these athletes have in common?
R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
A little known commodity in Obama-land!
What absolutely slays me is the fact that the DNC continues to bully and insult Hillary’s diehard supporters. Maybe they should get over it.
We are here and we’re here to stay, period. Quite insulting us and start acknowledging/respecting us!
If you are simply incapable of it, then please keep your pie-hole shut. (just in case you haven’t noticed,it really pisses us off).
In keeping with the Sports analogy…let’s talk about Wimbledon. Seems to me the female players were paid a fraction of the male players…and they spoke out against the injustice. That’s what strong women do. It’s the only way change ever occurs.
Don Fowler is an old fart who from the looks of him doesn’t get out much anymore.
Does anyone know what happened to the delegate switch count on Puma08.com’s website? This morning it said 9 delegates have switched from BO to Hillary and now we only need 166 more. FOLKS IT IS GONE NOW.
I totally despise, Pelosi, Dean and Obama. They are a threat to the real world. I hate having these feelings but if only someone would have had the foresight, courage and knowledge to take out Hitler, the holocaust would not have occurred. Our country and the free world is at risk mainly because of Obama and Richard Daly, George Soros and their associates, but Dean and Pelosi and other Dems are so stupid they are playing right into their hands. We must fight with all our might to keep America out of the hands of those that are out to take us down less we become like the jews that Hitler annilated.
I’m afraid I have to second this analogy!!
don fowler is the guy at the RBC meeting who made some kind of back room deal during the “lunch break”, which by the way is against the “rulz”. I know because I was there. He was going to vote for full representation of the fl delegates but made an apologetic speech to Ickes after the break saying he was going with the obama plan. This obviously indicated that he had made a deal with someone behind the scenes without ickes knowledge. He is a turncoat, a liar, and a rule breaker. The fact that he would write this letter is hillarious, and alice has been an obama groupie all along.
Can’t wait until Harold writes the book! Maybe the title will be “Chutzpuh”.
I’ll want a signed copy!
Irritated, Don and Alice? Well I’m madder than hell. You can take your irritation and park it. I will continue to convince colleagues and friends to refrain from voting for Obambi. The party did its members a disservice this election cycle and will pay for it through McCain’s election.
This democrat of 32 years has had it with you 25-watters.
Ferdberfle
Thank you.
I’m as angry as you but you still made me laugh. Now I’m going back to contacting as many Obama people and SDs to say Obama will never get my vote.
I think Don and Alice need to hear from every PUMA across the country about our “bit of fatigue and irritation” at idiots like them who simply don’t understand why PUMAs will not vote for Obama!
And, IMHO, all emails ought to reflect the intelligent, thoughtful, considerate, professional PUMA attitude, to show those nincompoops that PUMAs don’t “carp, complain, and criticize”, but represent a sincere love for democracy, and believe in Country before Party. Just one bitter, angry, old woman’s opinion.
Don Fowler: don@fowlercommunications.com
Alice Germond: germonda@dnc.org
PUMA Power!
I concur, I think they need to hear from those they think they own. This just proves PUMA is making an impact. Otherwise their feathers wouldn’t be ruffling.
Party Unity My Ass
i didnt carp complain or criticize i just told both of them country before party and that they could k*** my a**
i watched everything that when on during this election…just as i have watched all that has gone on in this most corrupt administration in history…i am sorry if you think the voters who refuse to vote for obama are whiners etal..but, i personally don’t think he has a shred of credibility to be president and this election is just too important for me..i probably will not vote after being a democrat for 30+ years…i am now an independent..never would have believed what went down in a million years….my children will vote democratic but my husband and i are wise enough to know there just isn’t enough credibility or qualification to be president in obama for us to support.
thanks ,
thanks for address i sent my letter
I don’t do polite — so I won’t send an email.
But they can go to hell.
What will the DNC think of next?
This was the “get over it” message — and our response –
No way in hell will be get over Chicago politics and a Chicago monster.
See I just don’t do polite.
Just sent them both an e-mail. I own my vote. I will not ever vote for Obama.
PUMA
NO DEAL
NOBAMA
I suggested they all have a meeting where they are somehow able to see how we might have gotten the wrong impression, fully unintended on their part. *cough*. Then they need to WALK IT BACK. Dean and Brazille need to step down now.
It’s so late now, I can’t imagine how they could correct all the damage done to Hillary. It is their only hope for saving the party. Power must make these people stupid.
Thanks for the letter, Larry – helps to know whose who. And thanks for the email addresses. I have just sent these two insanely dysfunctional DNC miscreants the following letter. Hope many others will write them, too:
——
I am a voter who has just read your demand letter requiring our support for obama. It is astonishing that you are “irritated and fatigued” because previously Democratic voters are adamant in our opposition of this unqualified, dishonest candidate- after you, the Democratic Party leadership wrongfully selected this candidate – in opposition to the Will of the People!
What exactly could you have expected? You have conducted the party shamefully and now you act as if we are obligated to follow the same fool’s path you have set for the party. In case you have forgotten, the US is still a democracy (though it’s future might be otherwise were you and your candidate given the opportunity to lead the nation.) However, there are millions of US who will not allow this to happen.
For your information, a political party in this republic has no bonds of loyalty. If it did that would be fascism. Are you not aware of the difference? Instead of being respected and appreciated for our years to decades of loyal contributions and volunteerism to this organization, millions of US are being criticized, chastised and, in a growing number of cases, personally and even
physically threatened. Is that your idea of democracy? Is that your idea of maturity?
A political party survives and thrives by being responsive to the needs and desires of those whom it claims to represent. You, in the current Democratic Party leadership, have done neither. You have cast aside a truly great Presidential contender, who is favored by sweeping demographics from coast to coast- and you have done so without integrity, decency or just plain common sense. You have supplanted her rightful momentum toward
nomination and certain election to the Presidency -with a schemer, pretender and shape-shifter who has neither Hillary Clinton’s loyalty, history or commitment to the Party or country’s future.And instead of acknowledging your own poor judgment and correcting your course, you are
blaming US?!
Artful, successful politicians follow a path of respecting their base, encouraging support, appreciating contributions and questioning themselves- not the voters- if their campaigns run aground. Instead your letter shows your contempt for those who will not “fall in line” -
demonstrated by your own tawdry complaints and specious arguments.
You have made a disgrace of the Democratic Party. You have hopelessly divided your own electorate.You have lost the trust of the voters who have been the very foundation of this party for years and decades. We will not return until – if and when – your irresponsible, immature lack of true.leadership is reformed.
To be totally clear, if your contempt for those whom you claim somehow “owe” allegiance is not addressed and corrected, we will never return! As millions these days are saying:”I did not leave the Democratic Party. But it sure looks like the Party is leaving US!”
Based on your recent letter, which appears to be a convoluted, self-defeating demand for support, the two of you belong near the top of the short list (along with Pelosi,Dean and Brazille) who need to resign your positions – due to your absence of both sound judgment and leadership skills.
Sincerely,
One of the Democrats who is working against all of you – on behalf of the future of this nation.
Don, Alice, you guys obviously don’t get out much and certainly do not know anything about sports. The competition between the Lakers and Celtics in basketball and Federer and Nadal in tennis involved keeping tabs of the score.
Absoooolutely, if the refs started giving points to the Celtics for baskets they never made there would have been a riot in the stands, the game would have been called, heads would have rolled…
BOBO got points for baskets he never made…. LOL and the poor little muckity mucks are miffed over our reaction. ROFLMAO hey take two Quaaludes and call me in the morning ya putzes
COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. THIS COUNRTY IS GOING TO STAND UP AND TAKE NOTICE WHEN WE DEMOCRATS HIT DENVER, AS THEY SHOULD. OUR DEMOCRACY IS CRUMBLING AND IN DIRE NEED OF ATTENTION NOT ONLY FOR DEMOCRATS, ALL POLITICAL PARTIES. THE VOICES OF WE THE PEOPLE ARE BEING SILENCED AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO STAND BY AND DO NOTHING. IF WE DO, WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET.
THE ENTIRE NATION WATCHED IN TOTAL BEWILDERMENT AND SHOCK HOW HILLARY CLINTON WAS TREATED BY THE MEDIA AND HER OWN PARTY. THEY SHOULD JOIN US IN DENVER AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD AGAINST THE BIASED AND UNJUST TREATMENT OF A POLITICAL CANDIDATE.
QUOTING RONALD REAGAN, “FREEDOM IS JUST ONE GENERATION FROM EXTICNTION.” IF WE DON’T STAND UP FOR WHAT TOOK PLACE IN OUR PRIMARY, THIS JUST MIGHT BE THE LAST GENERATION.
I just e-mailed the DNC and under other comments I said To Don Fowler and Alice Germond: GET OVER IT!!!
PUMA DEM4MCCAIN
I’m proud to say that our democratic headquarters (and I will not tell Trolls where) the Hillary Clinton 08 is still in the window.
I’m going to drop in on Monday and give them a donation.
alright!!
Awesome!!!!
An Irritating reminder for Don and Alice from the Democratic Party Charter
ARTICLE TWO- National Convention-Section 4: Section 4. The National Convention shall be composed of delegates equally divided between men and women.
(c) Failure of any member of the National Committee to declare affirmatively his or her support
for the Democratic Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees
shall constitute good and sufficient cause for removal.
What in the hell is Senator Obama doing? Iraqi Prime Minister Endorsing His 16 month time table? What is he doing. He is not the President! Oh god this feels like a fucking nightmare. The article states he will pull us out and send us to where there needed in 16mos and then send 2 brigades into afghanistan. He should not be making deals or whatever! I dont trust his ass. I hope those bitch ass DNC assholes are shaking in there boots while he wheels and deals.
Does anyone comprehend that we know NOTHING ABOUT Senator Obama?
I bet those assholes want to know now about what he meant when he stated “he would side with the muslims if the political wind blows that way” In his book audacity of hope. I do not trust him. Period. This is why I believe no one running for president need to go overseas until one person wins.
Senator Mccain is going to destroy him. They even had a quote coming from an “anonymous” officer who stated he met with officials etc etc. stated who they saw yada yada. But I dont know one freaking military person deployed overseas or even here that would make an anonymous statement where they give ups ANY information to dignitaries locations or who they speak to or what is decided. Its called OPSEC.
I am voting up and down the ballot republican. The Democrats have lost there ever lovin minds.
And you have to wonder, at least this military family does, where the hell is he going to get these brigades? Grab the soldiers who just finished another 15 mos in Iraq and send them to Afghanistan, or I know, all those young uns who signed on to his “volunteer” for community service programs…..
Draft??
There’s a guy here in Toronto. He signed up for the National Guard, and he says he was promised he wouldn’t go overseas to fight in the war. But once he joined, the story changed. So, he came to Canada. But the Harper government won’t grant him asylum; they told him he had to go back to the US and be tried for going AWOL. He held a protest in High Park, and to get people to show up, they advertised free pizza. That’s the youth. I’m not scared about Denver riots.
Somebody needs to rein him in and let that boy know he isn’t in charge.
I agree….Dem’s are on the fast track to hell
I’m there with you… this European vacation might send me over the edge. It’s only the first day… god help us.
i agree 100 percent.
me as well p, thank you for your service, hubby and I and just about everyone we know will only vote for Hillary or Big Mac. We would be crazy to give this unknown inexperienced flipflopper control of our nation adn our military.
ooohhhhhh Larry, they just stepped over the line. they truly do not know who they are dealing with and should study pumas in the wild for a clue!
party unity my ass!
I found Don and Alice’s letter hillariously delusional! What a friggin’ joke. Usually when tossing around such rhetoric, a person has some POWER or AUTHORITY behind them. The DNC has neither.
The party is split. They have active mutiny. They are flat-ass broke. The Dem controlled Congress has the lowest aproval rating since polls have been recorded. DELUSIONAL. It would be so funny, if it wasn’t so damn sad.
Mutiny — > good word for what’s going on.
You got that right!
Who’s back is against the wall? Ha!
Does anyone know how the DNC members are voted into the DNC? Are they selected by congress people, or is there a vote at the convention?
oops. that quote is mine.
In a NoDeal conference today, someone brought up that more of us
should run for positions in the state committees- not an immediate
solution, but worth considering for the long run/big picture.
That is a very good suggestion. Just like they have a blue dog coalition, they certainly would have a PUMA coalition. Either that or a different party. Ride the wave when its high.
i find alice germond even more disgusting than dean, brazile (not exactly), pelosi and reid.
if u remember the RBC meeting she was talking a lot and not saying too much. she is the secretary. and also she was the VP of NARAL.
ALICE, take your scarfs, cover your head, wrap them around your neck and choke yourself. U R a disgrace for democracy.
OMG…LMAO!!!
I watched the YouTube clip of Ickes at the Rules Committee. Was Alice the one banging the gavel when the crowd erupted in support of Icke’s speech?
No that was Alexis Herman. The great american, who was Labor Sec under Bill Clinton. Who now sits on the board for Toyota. A REAL AMERICAN HERO.
http://www.toyota.com/about/our_commitment/diversity/leadership/alexis_herman.html
Joke of course
I guess we are supposed to be afraid of Obama’s private army. Not is this lifetime.
Hillary or McCain08
PUMA
Don and Alice,
You can present your side and whine to get us behind Obama, but it isn’t going to work. You actually represent the old Democratic party with the get behind our selected candidate party line.
We represent the new Dem party. We say, “We own our votes and you will have to have the best candidate to get them in the GE. So far, you’ve given us the inferior candidate and therefore you and the DNC will not be getting our votes.” It’s just that simple.
Don, Alice, if you want to win us back, you will need to come up with the candidate that IS the most credentialed, most experienced, and most interested in the country and it’s citizens.
Do you really need anymore hints?
The problem is not on Obama’s side. The problem is the Hillary-wacks. They need to decide: Are they democrats or not? If so, stop the fucking whining. If not, get the fuck out of Dodge.
Obama needs to focus on McCain, not on the traitors behind him. We need a unified party, and if you are not willing to be part of the unified party, then GET YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE, and FAST! We are SERIOUSLY TIRED of WHINING HILLARY-WACKS.
Posted by dataguy
July 19, 2008
HEY GUYS! JUST THOUGHT I’D SHOW YOU A “TYPICAL” POST FROM talking points memo(above). Doesn’t this make you want to fall right in line?
“get the fuck out of dodge”, beautiful… a 28 year old white boy who calls himself data guy really makes a strong impression on me. Makes me want to vote for Barky. What about you? Any takers?
I saw that comment when I went to read that ediitorial…I wasn’t impressed.
I’m tellin’ ya, the more the Obots come here and try to strong arm us, persuade us, dismiss us, threaten and even insult us, the worse they are making it. That’s because they’re immature and have no character. So bring it on, you’re making our resolve stronger! They know Obama’s in trouble or they would not be here to begin with.
I don’t know what he’s worried about since there’s only two PUMAs with $70 in the bank.
Indeed….they really DON’T get it.
They think “the problem” is that a few pesky HRC supporters won’t fall in line.
They don’t realize that “the problem” is that Howard Dean and the DNC are trying to shove the INFERIOR candidate who got the FEWEST votes down our throats, and we take exception to that.
Do we know how Hillary is doing with the debt pay down?
We will know by Monday. the FEC reporting is due. Hillary’s debt is a double-edge sword remember. Because of her debt, Hillary has every valid reason to keep her campaign open and not release her delegates. We want to keep the debt total low- show she can still bring in money and has grassroots support- but not totally eliminate it prior to the convention. We will lose our cover without the debt. I have total confidence in the Hillary and the Hillraisers. They will play it like a fine violin
Hey Don and Alice: If you stop fighting and join us, you’ll no longer be fatigued or irritated. You’ll also be able to look at yourselves every morning knowing you did the right thing. Otherwise, get your no-doze and ear plugs out and get ready. This isn’t over, yet.
I agree with you. Every time I hear someone telling me to stop whinning and just get over it I’m more determined to stick to my guns.
How dare you two pompous A-holes compare the choosing of a qualified leader of the most powerful country in the world to games. With your kind of withered mentality, no wonder the Democratic party is in ruins. You have some nerve trying to tell us what to do after you cheated Hillary out of her nomination. You made this mess…deal with it.
Trolling Turds
Classic Larry.
If Barack Hussein Obama won hands down, then why bother to hold a convention in Denver?
NO FOLKS, contrary to what a few want you to believe, this isn’t a done deal yet. There has to be a procedure of nominations and delegate votes, and that’s all that’s fixed this greatest fear…Hillary’s still in it, and can walk away with the brass ring.
LOL. Such charming rhetoric from another Obot.
Behind anger is fear. And they are afraid that the rest of the country isn’t going to vote for Obama, In fact, the polls are teetering dangerously close to proving that Obama is yesterday’s fad. Their have every reason to be afraid. Instinct is telling them right now that they are backing a loser. Instead of responding with intelligence, they threaten.
All the little Obots are going to need some serious therapy when this is over.
LOL
They need something to keep them busy, perhaps some community service in Afghanistan.
Yeah, some service in Afghanistan- the trolls still don’t get that obama is planning a draft do they? And now they couldn’t run to Canada cause that’s no longer allowed. They’d just have to follow their leader, ya know the ‘peace’ candidate- straight into the draft- LOL.
and the Republicans haven’t even started in on Obama yet. I look forward to the ensuing entertainment in the months to come.
Just what I need–to be lectured by two pinheads. If this is the DNC’s strategy to get more money and more votes for Obama, no wonder they don’t have very much money and continue to lose voters. The tone of the letter makes me wonder who actually wrote it–Barack or Michelle.
This is the response I sent Fowler and Germond:
Dear Mr. Fowler and Ms. Germond,
I am writing in regard to your email addressed to “Democratic Friends”.
I wish to thank you for your email, because it has moved me. It has, in fact, strengthened my commitment and resolve even further – something I had not thought possible – to oppose the Selected Nominee.
By the way, I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that, unlike Congressman Wexler, I do in fact understand Rule 13-A, the Principle of Fair Reflection. I further understand that both Florida and Michigan made good faith efforts to hold re-votes, which according to the rules should have excused them from any penalty, but that every re-vote effort was blocked by Senator Obama’s campaign. Therefore you may want to rethink your choice of terms and replace “he won” with “he was selected”. That is, of course, completely up to you, your integrity, and your commitment to personal honesty.
Again, thank you for your extremely motivating email.
Sincerely,
(name)
(city, state)
PUMA Democrat
Well we might have supported him if Obama and people like you, Alice and Don, had not ignored threats from Obama supporters.
You had nothing to say then. Why should we listen to you now?
Your “beef” is the guiding force behind your irrationality. You PUMA nutcases are driven solely by a conviction that Obama is a worse candidate than Hillary. Whether or not that’s true (personally, I think it’s not), it’s not a good enough reason to twist yourselves into pretzels justifying the exploitation of every perceived wrong — from your distaste of DNC rules to the way Obama scratches his cheek — into the service of your pathetic narrative that this nomination was somehow stolen.
Face the facts. Some intelligent, informed people actually think Barack is a fantastic leader. You disagree, fine. But it’s the height of hubris to conclude that foul play is the only explanation for Obama winning. He won because he ran a better campaign.
And you’re living in a fantasy if you think the free ride Hillary got from Fox and Friends during the last few months of the campaign would have continued if she’d won the nomination. Nevertheless, it doesn’t matter. She didn’t win. And you offer not one bit of evidence that anything other than unavoidable imperfections in the process were in play.
(I know, yes, they could have been avoided if the DNC had simply sided with your opinion about how to resolve a screwed up situation — but your opinion was twisted all along because it was based solely on your conviction that every thinking person should do whatever it took to make sure your “better” candidate seized the nomination.)
Now you’re sitting here in your sad little corner of the internet with nothing to cheer you up but irrational, bitter, pathetic whining.
Grow up.
My momma says the rulz is the rulz.
Stop the hate Right on! You really should speak nicer to people you don’t know.
Peace out, dude!
No OBush 08!
Listen, punk, if we wanted any sh*t from you, we’d squeeze your head. The party staged this crap and we ALL know it. You apparently have been living in a self-induced fog. You are the one who needs to grow up, oh naive one.
yes so true a screwed up situation
by a screwed up team headed with the O and his ho!
after all Obama loves to call women hos so his wife is no different….
Guess this is my beef..!
So let’s say your smears were true (which, of course, they’re not — they’re simply idiotic tantrums). If America elects him, that’s the way it goes. Just like if America decides to elect the guy who (actually) called his wife a c**t, I’d just have to grin and bear it.
BOBO supported George Bush’s Telecom immunity. That’s not a smear.
That’s right. If the country elects McCain, you’re just going to have to deal. Your party selected Obama, and you supported that.
I’d just have to grin and bear it.
Brace yourself Effy!
Oh man. I’m going to enjoy watching you and Barky go down in flames this November. And I’m doing everything I can to help his demise along. Not to mention oust every down ticket dem who went along with this crap. Get used to it.
The whine come November will be ear-splitting but fun to hear.
oh, I agree w that!
And you thought you hear Howard Dean scream loudly before……cover your ears on Nov 5th, Howie is gonna blow!
Clean up your room, sweetie.
Then get a fucking job.
as we have stated before, if you are so confident in Obama you wouldn’t need to be here. CASE CLOSED.
We may be a corner of the internet, but it’s enough with the votes to deny your selection the white house.
Pathetic and whining. There go some more votes.
Obama needs better supporters.
So all of us life-long Democrats, polls workers, community activists, civil rights activists are now pathetic.
Too bad you don’t have any compassion for the poor black folk in Chicago, in Obama’s district, that suffered. Obama claims he knew nothing about them. Who else ignored the suffering of Americans? I’m sure you can come up with a name.
There’s leadership for you.
Obama funneled money to the slumlords that mistreated those poor black folk. He never disavowed said slumlords until he ran for President. Poor, black, and screwed over by your chosen candidate.
That’s alright with you.
I’m not surprised.
“Some intelligent, informed people actually think Barack is a fantastic leader.”
This jerk sat in Wright’s filthy, racist, anti-American church for 20 years and he finally had to be TOLD to get out of this crazy church. So where is the fantastic leadership? Obama does not even have rudimentary leadership skills.
“Now you’re sitting here in your sad little corner of the internet with nothing to cheer you up but irrational, bitter, pathetic whining.”
Sounds like what you are doing.
“Grow up.”
Get lost. I don’t recall anyone inviting you.
And just of what? is Barack a fantastic leader? He doesn’t have anything that hasn’t been written for him. He’s stolen everyone’s else ideas and platforms. He doesn’t have an original idea in his head because if he had to think for himself his head would explode.
If he was such a fantastic leader we wouldn’t be having this discussion. If he was such a fantastic leader he would definitely be way ahead in the polls over McCain.
The logic defies itself. Just because “some people think” does not mean that is is true and it doesn’t seem to be backed up by any measure of objective reality.
What has Obama ever led? He didn’t even lead his own sub-committee in the Senate. He didn’t have the guts to show his face in KY, but yet wants to lead this country? When things go wrong, does he lead with solutions? No he blames everyone else.
Right On,
Just in case you wondered…
We are FDR/Reagan/Clinton/McCain Democrats.
We decide every election!
Your democrat selection doesn’t meet the min requirements for the job of president.
We are looking for a much better experienced candidate in a time of great crisis.
We are looking for a candidate with core values and convictions that have passed many laws and stood behind them despite opposition.
We are looking for a candidate that values country before party, country before self.
We want a candidate who will defend America and will never surrender and will never cause America to be humiliated.
John McCain won the Iraq war for America!
Obama wished defeat for America and therefore is disqualified from being president..
By the voters who Decide all elections.
You nutcases are proving my point. All you have to offer are your opinions of how bad Obama is. Not good enough. Your not liking him is not enough reason to try to overturn the democratic process through smears and lies. You lost, that’s all. But in a fit a flaming narcissism you’ve convinced yourselves you’re going to save the country from Obama by any means necessary.
The only “substantive” reply to my argument in this thread (and I say “substantive” with inverted commas because it’s truly pathetic) is that “the party staged this crap.” If that’s true, Hillary was just as big a part of approving the set of rules that became an issue as anyone else — which you well know when you bother to pull your head out of the vile sand in which you live.
BOBO supported George Bush’s Telecom immunity. That’s not an opinion.
It’s an opinion that that disqualifies him for the office. Duh.
It’s been part of our argument for impeaching George Bush for the last four years and it was embraced by you BOBOweenies. LOL at least it was until BOBO and you jumped into bed with Bush.
And BO is against impeachment, which is par for the BObots.
That IS a reason.
Sweetie, voters’ opinions drive elections.
Yes, it’s mine and many Hillary supporters’ opinion that Obambi’s FISA capitulation was unforgiveable. It’s one issue out of a long list.
But, dear, since it’s probably past your bedtime and you’re cranky and have a limited attention span, I won’t list the other issues like his bizarre new positions on choice, Iraq, public financing, etc.
Oh, and one more thing, HE’S A SEXIST JERK.
Hillary 08!
Right on , you pussy, I love how you post a comment than run like hell, wait for the all clear than crawl back out from under your rock to spew another poo filled post. You are a big girl’s blouse. You’re a manly man aren’t you? Wanker.
And I suppose all you Hillary PUMAs out there think this kind of sexism is cute, eh? Whoever’s committed to bringing Obama down is welcome in your little circus, right? But when Obama says “sweetie” or holds Hillary’s chair he’s the freakin anti-Christ. Pathetic.
You little wanker. You can’t even take a hit from a girl. Yeah, you and barky are just the kind of men we need running this country. You only deal in sucker punches. Wait until someone’s back is turned or have someone else do your fighting for you. Hillary had more balls than both you and barky combined.
I hardly think pointing out your pathetic hypocrisies constitutes not being able to “take a hit from a girl” — but keep pretending you’re Princess Leia kicking butt, saving democracy from the bad guys. If it keeps you regular in the morning, I understand.
Hahahahah. I’m not even close to Princess Leia. I couldn’t fit one tit in her little slave outfit. Trust me, you don’t want to meet me on the street. I’m not a nice person and my hobbies are bodybuilding, powerlifting, MA and political blogging. I’m a fucking scary female…and proud of it.
So… your hobbies are developing whatever attributes make you a more effective, proud bully. That’s cool. A lot of people get off to that sort of thing.
But keep your stinking, lying, hate-filled, irrational, smear-mongering, paranoid, narcissistic, self-pitying paws off my party and country.
Right On is probably a McCain troll or a pot stirrer. I think he is here to raise our hackles against the Obamabots, something that needs no encouragement. His posts lack the intellect of the Obama supporters we encounter here. He claims that his substantive point was not addressed. Re-read his first post. He offers no substantive point. He only offers assertions that are not grounded.
I don’t think he’s smart enough to be an Obamabot.
The documentary on caucus fraud will end the falsehood about fair process.
Non sequitur: Lots of lovely mountain hiking, mountain meadow meditating, glacial lake plunging, and windy mountain road WRX driving today. Life is good.
Wow, sounds like a slice of heaven, one of the reasons I love Washington State. Makes me happy to be alive…thank you for the kind reminder Steve. Right On seems to be so…angry. Poor little person.
StrawberrybitesBarky is a BULLY
awww whaaaa!!!
Right OFF
But keep your stinking, lying, hate-filled, irrational, smear-mongering, paranoid, narcissistic, self-pitying paws off my party and country.
Thats what my vote will communicate to BO on November 4th, unless Senator Clinton is the nominee without BO anywhere on the ticket.
You know the Fraked up part is you are being played for a sucker Right OFF by your false god.
Right On: I’ve probably been a Democrat longer than you’ve been alive. That isn’t your party, it ours. You and your ilk WILL go away. If not soon, then after your false idol loses in November. Then the real Democrats will roll up their sleeves and work to rebuild the party. See, you guys are just a bunch of shiftless slackers lacking knowledge of the real value of work or the real meaning of being a Democrat.
Now go back to your crying room in Mommy’s basement, a**hat.
Right On,
Regular enough to smear your little wanker face in it! You little coward. Get your phoney, fried chicken hawk ass back to Chicago and tell your boss he can go fuck himself before he gets any of our votes.
Sweetie, in 2008, a man does not pull out a chair for a female peer. While some misguided souls see it as chivalrous, it’s actually demeaning. It implies that the poor little woman needs help. (That’s the origin of the tradition.)
When Obama did that, he was emphasizing Hillary’s gender and subtly implying that she was a poor little damsel who needed his help.
On the plus side, she kicked his a$$ in the debates, chair or no chair.
I don’t know about that, it seems to be an act of kindness, I taught my boys to do it on dates, and open doors for ladies and older folks. I appreciate the gesture. But I guess in business, I could see it not being done.
In the business world – and I live in a traditional red state – it’s considered condescending. If an older gentleman does it, most women will take it in stride. But, if a middle-aged or younger peer does it, it’s sexist.
And, make no mistake. Obambi wasn’t doing this to be gentlemanly. He was trying to subconsciously reinforce in voters’ minds that Hillary was a WOMAN. That’s part of why I can’t vote for him. (I Got 50 Problems But the Bitch Ain’t One of ‘Em – or whatever that rap song was? That’s what he played at his rally when he “won” Iowa’s three-way tie.)
Now, dating is different. Let’s be real. A guy needs to be on his best behavior if he wants a second date. (At least it was back when I was single. Of course, my husband still does things like that.)
I got to agree with Strawberry
One of the more endearing moments was when Obama showed Hillary respect and acted the Gentleman.
That is how I was raised.
The threat of the Obamabots if they win is a reversal of all the Women have gained. In it’s place will be a sexist gangsta thug mentality that abuses and disrespects women and brings back the day when they are used as objects.
I for one have always opened the car door for my wife. Let her walk ahead of me. Help women in and out of elevators and give up my seat to older women.At restaurants I always hold the chair for her since she loves a true Gentleman.
Then I sing Sinatra songs on the way home.
Seattle Moss,
Yeah nice, but can you sing Michael Buble?
It’s not about Hillary anymore.
I don’t think most people including myself were aware of how undemocratic the democrat party is.
How can I vote for a party that has shown itself closer to the Marxist dictatorships, America has fought for our freedom against.
This is about Country before Party!
We understand that the New Democrats don’t represent our values and and respect for this country.
The new democrats wished for defeat on America
Shame on you anti-Americans!!
overturn the democratic process through smears and lies
Like calling them a racist? By showing up at a caucus in a state you don’t live in and threatening people, locking them out of polling places, sending wrong information to depress turnout, screaming over people when they tried to speak? Accepting delegates from people who never voted for you, because you voluntarily removed your name from the ballot? That kind of overturning the democratic process?
Assuming you’re not completely brainless: logic would tell you that if any electoral messiness happened on a gross enough scale (and in a grossly imbalanced manner) your gal Hillary would have fought like hell to prove the significance of such occurrences (rather than asking her supporters to support Barack).
But of course you’re not interested in logic. You’re just interested in looking for rationales to support your emotional argument that only foul play could possible explain Barack’s victory. You can’t see beyond your tunnel vision.
Others (like Taylor Marsh) woke up one day to realize that, even though they didn’t get their way, no terrible crime happened. They just lost. But people like you are such complete egomaniacs you’re destined to never wake up to reality. You’re too devoted to your own self-image as the world’s protector against a smart, skillful politician.
You wrote 3 paragraphs to basically say that nothing could have happened because Taylor Marsh supports Obama??
Talk about tunnel vision…More like Kool-Aid vision.
We get it already, we’re voting for McCain, geez, don’t try so hard.
I guess the official Obot excuse for Obama selling out his supporters is now “he’s just being a smart politician.”
You are pathetic.
Assuming…
There you go again.
How fast they forget.
My goodness gracious me..what a pathetic little weasle you are.
Looks like you have been brainwashed into an Oborg. I suppose at the end of the day, we are all Gods children. I forgive you…
You are entitled to your opinion, but don’t try to sell it to us- we aren’t buying. No, Hillary didn’t win- but then, NEITHER DID NOBAMA. Or was there a convention while I was napping today? Hmm, sweetie? No one wins until the final count- at the convention. We know the rules, thank you.
“He won because he ran a better campaign.”
One he did not win, to win mean you have to earn something fairly, being handed 4 delegates from Hillary’s column is CHEATING…and the RBC allowed it condoned it and promoted it!
You need to “GET OVER IT”, the moron that you support is prancing over in Europe all the while, more and more american voters are seeing what an empty suit he is!
Get over it , we are not falling in line and we are not support the illegimate candidate BO nor the undemocratic party!
Obama talks about his “Superior Judgement”. In 2005, after winning the Senate job, Obama sought the help of TONY REZKO to help him buy a Mansion he couldn’t afford. At this time about 100 articles were in the Chicago papers about the political corruption probe of REZKO by the F.B.I. Even a 10 year-old kid would be bright enough to not do a deal with REZKO. I’m sure his wife pushed him, she deserved a much nicer place than they had. This is an example of weakness, greed and poor judgement. Obama always said his kids were off-limits to the press, but then he changed his mind and exploited them on “Access Hollywood”. The next day Obama claimed that exploting the kids was wrong, he wished he hadn’t allowed that to happen and it wouldn’t happen again. Is that another example of his leadership and “Superior Judgement”?
in the immortal words of bill clinton, KISS MY ASS!
ahhh…now i feel better.
You “grow up.” Ya little JERK.
Let me scratch my cheek with my middle finger whilst I explain things to you, sonny.
FISA–your hero lied to you and changed his vote.
The war–he was against it, only he was actually for it, then against it, now for it. He’s got to keep his General Dynamics donors happy–so you plan on seeing that war go on for another few years if your Messiah is crowned King of the Tools.
And face THIS fact. We normally give the nomination to the person who got the MOST votes. We don’t allow party hacks and opportunists to decide that votes from Michigan and Florida will be discarded and discounted. That’s NOT the “Count Every Vote” strategy of our party.
You’re just so EAGER to have Mister Ethnic and Incompent take the helm–why, to prove, perhaps that YOU aren’t a racist?–that you fail to see the guy’s obvious, blatant shortcomings.
This isn’t OZ, and no one gave you ruby slippers, kid. You can’t click your heels together and be magically transported. Your candidate sucks, and your immature hectoring about what we “should” do isn’t going to change hearts and minds here.
We want the BEST CANDIDATE. Saint Obama the Perpetually Aggrieved And Put-Upon Victim is NOT THAT CANDIDATE. We aren’t going to “equal opportunity” the Presidency because you feel white guilt or you want America to look “cool” by having a brown leader…guess that older woman, you know, the BEST candidate, that wasn’t “unique” enough for you–because, if you are honest, you KNOW she is the better choice.
So take your flopsweatty, frantic, finger-wagging complaints and shove them. We’re not interested in your bullshit. We’re not interested in your childish annoyance.
And we’re not swayed by your LOUSY arguments…OR your LOUSY candidate.
Hey Dumb Fuck, how is it that YOU found this ’sad little corner of the internet’? Sounds Freudian to me. Project much???
You’ll be eating those words HoBama-nut. Why else have the DNC begging, no, bitching and whining about ‘po little us in our sad widdle corner of the internet-verse’.
Hey Dude:
It’s your guys who are apparently upset. All we are saying is we don’t buy the bullshit and this apparently has Mr. Fowler and Ms. Germond stomping their feet all because we just say “No way”.
Oh the O loves looking at running this country as some sort of game….. everytime he shoots the hoops hes throwing one of us under the bus!
AND THESE 2 TURKEYS CAN JOIN HIS TEAM
Don Fowler and Alice Germond
I tell ya what barky keep shooting your hoops and leave the country to the PROFESSIONALS! Someone with a great work ethics and someone who will work to bring America back to GREAT! Someone with a real plan.
Stick your hope and change where the sun don’t shine
OMG Barky go take a long walk off a short pier.
This is what Obama is asking and he doesn’t care.You can hear in his controlling voice.If he don’t care about this~ Oh my,I can’t even call him a senator he did nothing as a senator but used this to greater his wealth form our goverment.
Larry noquarter radio will be good tonight Rezko tonight and Obama. listen in form your computer.
Obama: “I Don’t Care How Poor You Are”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxzqwRJUzM&feature=email
Yeah Obie. I got five “dollahs”. I just sent $20 to HRC to help retire her debt.
They can kiss my whitey ass too!
Who the hell do they think they are? They can’t tell me who to vote for. They say it’s time for us to stand in line to help him get elected. I thought Donna said to just stay home. Why are Hillary her supporters obligated to help obama win? I thought obama said he could get Hillary supporters. Stay, come here good boy. Sorry…we’re not dogs. The very second Obama was in Nevada saying Bill Clinton didn’t bring aobut change, but Reagan did…he lost ANY and ALL chances with me. Then to rub salt in the wound, he tries to say “I didn’t say it was good change”. That made me realize the kind of change he’s about. And uh, uh, uh, excuse me Obama, but I’d rather have NO change, than bad change.
Good! You should be fatigued! It’s gonna be a lot of a harder to make us fall in line. The main reason I’m complaining about the results of the primary is not because Hillary didn’t win..it’s because it was un-American. Caucuses have no business in primaries. I keep harping on it, but my 94 year old grandmother – who was born before women had the right to vote – can’t go caucus. Her vote should count. Hillary won by more than 120,000 votes in the primary in Texas, but Obama won the caucus. That is proof that the caucuses are crap. And he got more delegates here. Total BS!!!!
At least they got to play the game!
Yeah, well opinions are like assholes.
I tried to stomach reading some of the comments. Someone stated:
““First you fall in love, then you fall in line”, so said Bill Clinton at the Harkin Steak Fry, summer of ‘03. Time for the Big Dog to bring this up again.”
Well, hate to tell you but I have not, nor will I ever fall in love with Barack. So, this is the line I choose to fall in line with!!!!
The words in this letter just make me more resentful of the DNC and want all the losers (supporting this crap) out.
The only thing it’s time for is for the DNC to realize I OWN MY VOTE….and they have lost it.
(sorry for the rant…that ticked me off)
Great rant by the way. Exactly how I feel.
These people, just like Nancy and Howard,
never speak to anyone who isn’t a yes person. So they indeed haven’t a clue . For example weeks ago Nancy looked stunned when Greta pointed out a few simple facts. I can’t tell if the PUMA facts stunned Nancy or the fact someone had the gaul to point them out to her face….and with her frozen face, the only way to tell she’s surprised is her eyes bugging out. Someone explain to me why we should vote for theses people?You’ll notice Hillary went out and asked
for our votes. She didn’t demand them!
WE NEED HILL STAT
tuppence –When the Democratic Congress has a 9% approval rating, they have no money in their coffers and their nominee is so unpopular there is a mutiny within the party its not time to throw their weight around its also not time to throw out your base. Pride Goeth Before The Fall. GOOD BYE DEMOCRATS.
Gosh. Have you said that to them? I think they need to hear that many times from many people. It is concise, to the point, and civil. My response was who do these assholes think they are?
Chicago Politics has no place in the Whitehouse. Keep BO and his politics in Chicago.
Whitehouse = Yes
WrightHouse = No
Idiocracy08 Seems The Democratic Party just noticed they can’t win without their base. So now they want to force our votes. I have never seen anything like this before. However, Carville warned a couple of years ago if Dean got ahold of the Democratic Party he would bankrupt it — he should have also added destroy it.
Idiocracy08 This reminds me of a kid who kills his parents then begs the judge to show lenancy because he is an orphan.
To the Democratic Party — Kiss my Grits
I’d rather have this guy as president:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDGAiWA7g2A&feature=related
http://www.tinyurl.com/5f38vk
Nancy Pelosi was at the “Netroots Nation on Saturday as being at the forefront of reclaiming American democracy and urged the activists to mobilize for global climate protection.”
Gore was there as well. It also seems that is was also a convention for the DNC & Obama bloggers, they held meetings and so on:
If you turn the pages of the agenda you will see Obama meeting workshops. This all happened today!!
Sorry, forgot to add the Netroot Nation link:
http://www.netrootsnation.org/agenda-2008
Tea Mug, Look for more talking points to swamp the net next week.
These fools wouldn’t know Earl Gray if it bit them in the ass.
Hey Don and Alice,
F..k off! Can’t help you with your irritation.
What cracks me up is even if someone was thinking of “falling in line” , the fresh insults every day from Dem assholes like theses two , make that impossible. The incompetent Dem assholes insisting on losing when faced with victory….ah, my former party
Good riddance. The party will survive just fine without nutcases like you. Goodbye. Have a happy demented trip.
Oh you’re running just when you convinced me to vote for OBush 08.
Well, if that is the type of supporter you are then I guess I’ll go back to
No OBush 08!
Dang, I just wish you’d have told me earlier. All you really want is someone to kiss your ass. Hey, you should get a puppy!
I love it when you talk dirty.
WIN WITHOUT ME.
I confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with elitist a-hole Democrats who expect me to vote for an unqualified sexist nobody who couldn’t win New York, California, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Ohio, or Pennsylvania, among others.
These folks are kidding, right?
No they are deluded.
This is more like when the NBA rigged the 1985 draft so that New York could select Patrick Ewing. Fortunately, the Knicks never won a championship with Ewing. Karma will hold.
geez, I didn’t know about that or what happened in 72, guess this kind of shit happens more then alot of people realize. Nothing is done about it either.
Obama — in his best AA accent not the one he uses when he is imitating MLK — I don’t care how poor ya ah ya got fi dollas. How can AA voters not see he is making a fool of them.
Nancy is in deep doo doo — she has a 4% approval rating.
wow she came down from yesterday,lol Cnn had showed her at 9%. Looks good on her.
Bush had 28% yesterday, Pretty bad, when your party leader has a lower rating than the President,your trying to get out of power.
Clinton for president
HOPE the SDs are pissed and will CHANGE their uncommited minds.
Too bad there’s no Botox for approval ratings.
Yea Larry! They’re obviously clinging to hope while clutching their Hobama change posters.
They need to ‘get over’ their “irritation” and realize we’re just not that into Obama.
Geez, next the leadership will be wagging their fingers and yelling ‘vote Obama or else’.
Oh, what on earth shall we do?!?
I’ll opt for or else.
Watch noquarter radio tonight live by your computer.Love Larry!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr
the new yorker isn’t traveling with obama on his trip across europe…are you surprised?
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/on-board-with-o.html
good,
now maybe they’ll start cranking out the covers in earnest.
Guys, we need to bookmark thevote.abc13.com . there’s an interesting story every day. The guy is seriously NOT in the tank for Barky.
He’s kind of cynical like Jake Tapper, but like Jake, it’s an amused cynicism.
Check it out.
Isn’t this the most insulting shit ever? In the process of acknowledging how much they need you, they lecture and scold by telling you how much they’re fatigued and irritated by you. Arrogant, arrogant clueless asses. Much like Taylor Marsh, another former Clinton “supporter” who operates in the same vein.
sam — Perhaps Don and Alice should take their frustration out on that insufferable bore they forced into the nomination. He was past his sell by date after Super Tuesday and these jerks just didn’t get it. I thought I might vote for the down ticket Democrats — NO –
BREAKING DOMESTIC NEWS!
MONICA CROWLY reports Michelle Robinson Obama II is a drag on the campaign and is under theeee Bus until the convention. Suspended!
I don’t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. If she’s not out by 8/1 we’ll have to play Order in the Court. (The Monkey’s about to speak). No laughing. No smiling. No showing your teeth.
And don’t you go getting racist on me and renting space in my head about monkey. That will be the next forbidden word for, certain people, i.e.
Mark Twain is going to be a best seller on EBay after the “election”, ‘folks’. The Private Mighty Whoever They Are are going to be dropping in to rape your bookcases. And then put the booty ~is this still ok?~ on the black market. Why am I cringing?
Now what do you suppose we do with Curious George? Well, let’s not worry about that chump now.
Not yet. We still have a slew of chumps with wings swarming.
Please keep us update on the Boss while her penis is away.
I think Obama should get a strip search at customs when he gets back from Europe, Just in case he picked up some illegal money,for his campaign. Maybe some of his friends,supplied him with some from his trip. Who really knows his purpose for this trip?
He’ll just hide the money in his ears!
I wonder if he’ll have to show his passport!!
Pew
I thought you meant customs should strip search him to see if he has come equipped with a set of cajones.
They obviously don’t want our money or our VOTES. Please oblige them and if you can’t vote for McCain lets vote for Nader. http://www.votenader.org/
Hillary 2012
McCain is the only way to go if Hillary is not nominated to prevent a Waffles presidency.
Don Fowler and Alice Germond: you suck!
We won’t rally behind in goose step to the second coming of Hitler because you say so.
Barack cannot be trusted. I despise McCain – I will not vote for Barack.
Joe
I’m with you. I despise McCain and well Barack is a pathetic nobody.
Don and Alice’s comments are analogus to the rapist saying to the rapee, “Lie back and enjoy it.” What we have seen in these primaries is political rape. It was not consentual. It was rape. I’m sure the voters in Florida and Michigan did not consent to having their votes stolen from them. Senator Clinton’s supporters did not consent to being called names or harassed at caucuses. Nor did those of us who voted for her consent to being abused for our votes especially after being told by Donna Brazile that we were not needed; the party could get along with out us. Well folks you’re getting what you wanted, a an underperforming, low information candidate, who hasen’t the chance of a snowball in hell of winning in November. Lots a luck!!
well said!!! the thing that bothered me the most about florida (besides the fact that it was the republicans that changed the date) is that the whole purpose was to let Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevadad & South Carolina vote first. Florida did vote after all those states, so it really didn’t hurt the other states.
Iowa = Jan 3rd
New Hampshire = Jan 8th
Michigan = Jan 15th
Nevada = Jan 19th
South Carolina = 26th
Florida = Jan 29th
I do know they were supposed to vote Feb 5th (one week later than they did), but they didn’t step on the 4 other state’s toes in their “right” to vote first.
Don’t lie Beth, you love it. All you nutcases here have some sort of desperate psychological need to feel like oppressed martyrs saving America from the bad man Obama. One day the world will realize how deeply you’ve suffered and will thank you profusely for your dedication to the Great Cause of 2008.
Not a chance. It’ll be interesting to hear what your next bitter whining streak will be about after Obama becomes recognized by the great majority of Americans as an excellent president. I’d like to think you’d just shut the f**k up, but I doubt that’s likely given your pathologies.
You came back and here I thought you were leaving and wrote you a love note!
Stop the hate, hater!
This one is a republican mole. But I must admit, it’s doing a bang up job getting us to vote for McCain.
So let me get this straight. You constantly express hatred of Barack, Michelle, Howard Dean (and the entire DNC), Taylor Marsh, all the media (except Fox and Friends), and everyone stupid enough to allow Barack to hypnotize them into supporting him. The closer Barack comes to winning the presidency, the more people you hate.
So now I’m the big hater? Granted, I do despise all the lying smear-mongers who hang out here. No argument there.
Man, stop it, you’re killing me here. I can’t stop laughing oh small penised one.
We also express love of our country.
I’m all about love man! Can’t you feel it!
You’re my hero too! You come into this big bad blog and defend the honor and dignity of the one. It’s so refreshing.
I for one hope you don’t run along like you said you were going to do ten posts ago.
My momma said the rulz is the rulz!!!!!!!!!
Stop the hate!
P.S. Right On
I haven’t said one thing about Barack on this blog, it is Barack right, that wasn’t true!
Just the facts man, just the facts.
Stop the hate.
Well, even though I can’t make sense out of most of your scribbles, I do see that I’ve become your hero. Which is fine, but — and I hate to burst your bubble — I never promised to leave ten posts ago. Can I be your hero anyway?
Why don’t you chew on your dick, Left Off?
P.S I HATE YOU. Would like to meet you on the Clinton / HoBama-nut battlefield though. For sure.
I see the America-Hating trolls have returned
to defend Obama.
I love when the abuser tells you you just made it up. I’ve never been hit by a man, cause I learned a thing or two watching my stepfathers beat up on my mother. I can spot an asshole a mile a way, and walking is the best thing you can do. I’ll be so glad November 5th when Obama will just be a bad dream.
Thanks for popping that pimple for us, Larry! It’s ever so like a cool breeze on a sultry night when someone uses their intellect to squelch the insultors and the insults. I’ll be listening to Darragh at 7:00 mst. Go PUMAS!
I was reading the comments over there. What they don’t realize that to me, the big difference between McCain and Obama is that McCain has been elected for decades to Congress by the people of Arizona. Obama had to get people off the ballot in order to win ONE term as US Senator. Do we even know if the people of Chicago would vote him in for a 2nd term (without tricks)? No, we don’t. I think I probably trust the people and politics of Arizona much more than those of Chicago!!!
Was that suppose to make me want to vote for that creep? No can do Donny and Al. Actually bite me and brush up on your sports metaphors. Wow, has the DNC been caught with their pants down or what.
Who really cares of his wanting attention in hopes to look bigger.You think about it everything Obama does cost so much money…He want’s what his oil companys has,I guess he’s upset takeing so much money to help the oil companys.and the hospital his wife works at?And he plays chairman on many board and never really there to fit his nasty tail in the chair.He also can’t eve do a job as oversight for our country.He said well I was working on a board,I think that one was GE-Maytag.Who now moved thier business oversea. Many people lost thier jobs.Come to think of it where ever Obama is on a board something goes wrong as to moving over seas or they closed down like Bay Valley foods that his wife ceo on the board and controll the money.Wel;l that place closed les then a year and she worked part time as working at the hospital who screwed people out of their money 350% more the unisured and for a non profit hispital.
live radio how Obama and Rezko took millions and with the tax payer money
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/19/No-Quarter-Radio-Live-Internet-Talk-1
Another blog is actually praising this crap stating Iraqi Prime minister endorsing Obama timetable is important. God what an idiot. IDIOT. Does he understand logistics? They are making comments about hoping he took pictures with soldiers so they can make Mccain look bad.And that ALL next week will be about HIM and how the MCCAIN camp will try to play the fear card. He played basketball and shook hands and now to let them tell it he has all the foreign policy experience needed.
So there you have it. Were a fucking photo op. An ornament to throw up on your campaign website surrounded by soldiers in uniform so his supporters will be over joyed running in circles saying that one visit means he is ready to be CIC.
Three reporters to go and do a photo op. When I read Taylors blog I was just astounded. I cant believe they are all escatic. I found so many issues with the articles because unless you know what is going on ground you cant do a timetable. But what is even worse is the fact that the Iraqi Prime minister wanted us out as I read online last week.
And whatdya no, Senator Obama gave a timetable and got an endorsement from him. 2 hours and now he is an expert in foreign policy.
When I read the article I viewed through the eyes of a soldier and I can honestly say that they should enjoy the high because they are getting slapped down.
What Senator Obama has done is what we call activating an alert roster. They are going to come out in droves and vote to ensure he will not make it into the White House. Did Mccain go to get an endorsement? Hell NO. So what is the Democratic Party thinking? They even stated that it was going to look good for the dems down ticket. Are they fucking kidding me?
I dont think they truly grasp the impact of how we see it. All we see is someone making deals before they have the job. Yeah the down ticket dems are going to be feeling something alright. But it aint joy.
But what is even worse is the fact that the Iraqi Prime minister wanted us out as I read online last week.
political posturing to appease certain factions of his own population
You’re right. If there’s one thing Obama understands, it’s manipulating the message and getting good PR.
Why do I get the sickening feeling that Barack is over there in Iraq making deals behind our backs? This guy is a danger to our sovereignty.
Gee The Democratic Party has trouble winning even when there isn’t a mutiny — How in the Hell are they going to win when 14% of Dems have already left the party?
radio noquarter
great comment larry..
I am thru with the undemocratic party! I was intially just going to vote for mccain, but vote dems for downticket..
NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am voting mccain and ALL repubs downticket!
I went unifilliated-independents. now so I can vote who ever I want to.I did this so I can vote Hillary or McCain.I am a Hillary supporter.But,I will vote for McCAIN to keep him away from our white house,If the democratic party again cheat Hillary out of Denver or roll call.
Remember that a write in vote some states does not allow write in’s check your state.But I think it’s better to chance your party to unifilliated so we can vote Hillary or McCain.Why stay home and not vote.Vote McCain if they somehow mess and block Hillary from Denver rolll call.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nqr/2008/07/19/No-Quarter-Radio-Live-Internet-Talk-1
He has skipped over commanders on ground and went straight for the head honcho. This would be hilarious if it wasnt really happening. What is with this guy? Does he have something against the military? Because why cater to the prime minister when the commanders on ground is the source to go to for logistics.
This dems are taring this country apart. Hell yeah I am scared. Because I dont know who Senator Obama is or what he stands for. You were not allowed to ask questions. This is THE MEDIA AND DEMS fault! I should just take there word for it? Based on his honesty?
I am sorry if this offends anyone but my feelings and beliefs are my own. But I dont know enough about him to trust him. He has lied about so many things and you can never get answers without being called racist. I dont know how he feels about this country. What have this party done ?
Simple: The commanders on the ground are part of a chain of command that leads directly up to George W. Bush. They are responsible for following his orders and executing his policy, and are not in a position to speak freely about those things. It would be unseemly and inappropriate for Obama, as a presidential candidate, to solicit opinions directly from them in the field.
On the other hand, it’s entirely appropriate for a presidential candidate to talk politics and policy to a political leader. It’s useful. This is the guy who represents the people of the nation in question.
I clearly remember Obama saying you don’t need to talk to the leaders, you need to talk to the people.
I’m pretty sure this was when he was explaining his SUPERIOR foreign policy experience by saying he lived in Indonesia in elementary school, and traveled to Pakistan once in college, or has African relatives. Yeah, I pretty sure.
Is this a flip-flop? Or a let me be clear? Or I wasn’t listening to everything he said? Or, what I really meant? Or, I didn’t say that very well? Or, they don’t speak for me? Or, well I think you get the point.
What bothers me is on the one hand, this encourages the Iraqis to take more responsibility for running their government, or it encourages crooks stealing oil that we’re going to leave and let them carry on while Al Qaeda presence grows and Iran moves in.
You are on target — Obama does have something against the military.
At one point I remember that Obama said it was the job of the military to obey the President. The way he said it — he had no intention of consulting the military because they would then “influence” his decision.
He is planning to order and he expects obedience.
There is absolute disgust in the Navy military ranks with Obama — and from what you’re telling us the other branches of the military also realize the Obama has no business being the CiC.
That nut from Chicago doesn’t have a clue — he reminds me of an ancient King who thought he was all powerful and that he could stop the tides. So he sat on the beach and order the tide to retreat — he drowned.
PUMA
I don’t know where you’re getting that.
Active-duty military personnel are prohibited by military law from taking part in partisan politics, so you simply won’t see any high-profile public expression concerning their attitudes about any candidate.
Admiral Mike Mullen, the nation’s highest ranking military officer and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently reinforced this by issuing an open letter warning all uniformed military personnel to stay out of politics as the election approaches.
Expression of political opinion by the troops has been essentially locked down. 2007’s rewrite of Army Regulation 530–1. Operations Security (OPSEC) requires “an OPSEC review prior to publishing” of anything–from web log (blog) postings to comments on internet message boards; from resumes to letters home.
Failure to obtain a review, according to the new version of the regulation, could result in a court-martial, or “administrative, disciplinary, contractual, or criminal action.”
By the way, the highest total military campaign donations have so far gone to Barack Obama and Ron Paul.
Rules are a bitch, and according to the Rules for Democratic Party Presidential Nominee, Obama fails and Dean is required to end Obama’s seeking the nomination.
These words: “is a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that he or she is faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith” Mean one of two things, the Democratic Party is now the Party of Pathalogical Liars, due to Obama’s writings in his book on Kennedy Airlift and Selma for starters to Obama’s Lies on Wright, Ayers and NAFTA, to Obama’s lies on FISA. These alone disqualifies Obama completely as to having concern of the welfare and success of the Democratic Party.
So Dean, as Chairman, are you going to disqualify the candidate who has proven to be the worst form of candidate or are you going to adopt the ruling that the Democratic Party is the Party of Pathalogical Liars best suited to run the country?
What I dont understand is how they stated they had such a large grassroots effort going with registration. They even had 80% of Clinton supporters are now supporting BO (**wink**). Soooo if you have all of that..why are they here? hmmm interesting.
If Senator Clinton was the nominee I would go on leave to personally campaign for her.
patsy:
its all an illusion, mccain and the fraud are TIED for a couple of days now.. and the repubs have not really attacked him yet..
people aleady have an uneasy feeling about the fraud, and all the crap that we know, once that comes out.. well.. those numbers of the fraud will COME DOWN!
That percentage of former Hillary supporters who will support Barack went down from 60% to 54%. I read that about a week ago. It also stated that 17% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain and that puts McCain up three million Hillary voters and Oboohoo down three millions voters. A six million spread right there alone. Also, we’re not figuring in the Clinton supporters who don’t blog and so that figure that will be voting for McCain may be a LOT higher.
My family is strong Dem. Not one Barry supporter among them. 23 votes for McCain here.
What Don Fowler and Alice Germond wrote is some of the most insulting stuff I’ve ever read. I don’t remember Nadal being given 4 points that were originally Federer’s. I don’t remember anyone giving Nadal extra points that he did not earn because he was at a disadvantage from the outset. I don’t remember people who favour one player deciding the outcome.
These Obamabots are batshit crazy. Completely fucking loony. How can people be so elitist and self-centered? And the funny part is that everything they do is contrary to how one would go about getting the results they so desperately want.
Do not forget another thing scaring the crap out of Dean, Brazile and Pelosi is the Credentials Committee that can remove as many as 200 delegates from Obama for irregulaties, caucuses and awarding of delegates not earned and stealing delegates from a candidate who earned them.
Hillary already backed off that promise. I hope her debt relief changes her mind.
yea.. keep making stuff up.. just like a paid troll
Unless you’ve got links and specifics, don’t even try that crap!
I know that most politicians are corrupt or at least they have a few skeletons in their closet.
Don Fowler, if you were going to vote for full representation of the Florida delegates but made an apologetic speech to Ickes after the break saying you were going with the Obama plan. This obviously indicates that your skeletons were going to be let out of the closet, if you didn’t drink the kool-aid. So shame on you.
This Democrat doesn’t have any skeletons to make me drink the kool-aid. The race-baiting guilt also will not work, as it has been worn out. And I don’t take orders from you or anyone else.
I am a mother and grandmother. It is my responsibility to do everything in my power to protect my children. To fight for their future.
Barack Obama is unqualified and inexperienced. He has many many anti- American, corrupt politicians and terrorist associates, many who have financed and put Obama were he is. He has not earned the right to even be in considered for the most powerful position in the world.
I am a Democrat, but a political party is just that, a political party. If I were to describe myself, being a Democrat would be the very last thing on my list. I am an American mother, grandmother, woman, loving, compassionate, I am for equality to all, no matter of race, religion, sex, or disabilities.
As a responsible American Citizen, it is my duty to put our country before any political party. To vote for the person whom I believe would be the most qualified President to serve and have our country’s and the entire world’s best interest at heart.
Don Fowler and Alice Germond, Please do not ever insult me again or tell me to get over it and fall in line to support your unqualified ’selected’ candidate. As I will never support him. I have to protect my children, all the children.
PUMA PUMA PUMA
NO DEAL
NOBAMA
the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.
The ability of the DNC to work to achieve the goal of electing Democrats at all levels is being seriously impaired by the Obama campaign. From what I understand, there will be a minimum of $18 million from DNC funds allocated to an “independent” (uncoordinated with the Obama campaign) effort directed at trying to make Obama POTUS. That means at least $18 million that could be used to elect “Democrats at all levels” will be devoted to the Chosen One. This most likely will be in addition to the DNC money allocated to coordinated efforts for Obama (I think the limit is $18 or $19 million for coordinated efforts).
It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion.
Yes, it is time for Obama to act this way. Alice and Don should talk to Barry and tell him to stop robbing funds from downticket Dems.
Just send them a nice note to Don and Alice saying I told you that the DNC didn’t need you ole’ time Democrats no more.
Also, tell them that I told you to stay home that we had a new younger and more affluent base.
Tell them I told you that we don’t need your stinkin money.
the dean pelosi coup d’etat of the democratic party we knew and loved now the burned out shell of a “party” they have made has to be called the obommunist party. a party that brooks no dissent what ever regarding their messiah who wants to create a new brownshirt domestic natl security army along with the inter bot thought police to keep us in line! well ” i’m not gettin in line” fascist fisa supporting america hating scum!” hillary or mcain ‘08! america first!!!!!
The majority of the party appear to have gotten behind a particular candidate and set their sights on winning the November election. The opposing candidate for nomination has also moved beyond the primary, endorsed the presumptive nominee, called for unity, and set her sights on winning the November election.
At this point, I’m not really clear about who or what it is you represent. All I’m clear on is that you hate Barack Obama and think everybody who doesn’t agree with you is either an idiot or a fascist.
Sorry, but that’s just not my definition of democrat. My definition is different. You don’t seem to fit it. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama fit it just fine.
How could you make such vile charges at this cozy little tea party (hosted by the Mad Hatter)? Don’t you get it? All they want is for everyone to do everything they want — and then they positively promise they’ll stop whining and hating.
Oh look, you made a friend. Now if you could only make one in the real world.
That’s a good one!
I was hoping to ask you on a date. I’m pretty sure you get all nasty-like when you get down, eh? I’ll bet it’s not just periodically that your claws come out, am I right? What do you say? Shall we give it a whirl?
Everybody knows that all male Hobama-nuts are cocksuckers, sweetie. Stop pretending.
inept cocksuckers…
Um, I don’t scratch. Punch yes, scratch no. Try hitting a heavy bag or speed bag with nails.
OMG Right On!
Do you think it’s possible that they would do EVERYTHING we want?
I told you that you were my hero but now that’s magnified.
Stop the hate!
Yeah, and your point?
OMG! It never ceases to amaze me what complete idiots the DNC “leadership” are. That “letter” just drips with condescension and contempt. Such uniters. Almost every one of these jerks (1) refuse to listen, and then (2) insult us further when the lose patience because we won’t just “get on board.”
The good news is: they make it incredibly easy to tell them to shove it. As each day passes, and their weak and immature candidate continues to stumble all over the place, voting against him becomes easier and easier. Thank you Alice and Don.
Awww, just let ‘em keep on with this really “smart, intelligent” bullshit they’re spewing.
They continue to alienate dems every day with this crap. Very much like their ill-fated attempted-foray into NASCAR-land, they’re just trying to pretend they’ve told us to go away, rather than admit that we cannot stand their ilk any longer and we’ve left en-masse on our own.
As for the NASCAR thing, I can guarantee that NASCAR told Obama he could stick it where the sun doesn’t shine when he wanted to sponsor a car for (get this) ONE RACE???? WTF???? They laughed him out of the board room, I’m sure. Of course,the Obamatrons have made it seem as if it was THEIR decision. Uhhh…right. What a bunch of losers and posers.
OMG! I’m sick…Waco, Texas even considered naming a school after him!!!
I have to go throw up now…
Maybe they’ll build a jim Jones Theme Park, too. All the koolaid you can drink, plus balloons for the kids!
lol! it is Waco we’re talking about…maybe a david koresh hall of fame.
OMG Hope, I just spit out my koolaide, oops I mean my tea……………roflmao
I feel bad for whoever J.H. Hines was. Poor guy. A principal from way back but probably did a lot for that school. Oh, but forget about the guy who actually worked for the school and did something…no, throw him under the bus for Obama who’s done nothing for the school, or the community, or the state, OR ANYTHING! GEEZ.
oh, think link
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/07/08/07082008wacEWschool.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=11
They want us to act in a MATURE fashion? And they’re FATIGUED and IRRITATED?
What in hell do they think WE are??
Fuck them.
Who’s your Messiah, NOW, Donnie and Alice?
That assclown who voted FOR FISA?
Neither the Lakers nor the Celtics ever suggested that our civil liberties should be taken from us, and the last time I checked, Howard Dean and the rest of the DNC assclowns didn’t fuck with the SCOREBOARD, either.
What a lame little crew of idiots, they can’t even make a decent ANALOGY.
Gee, vicious insults of Clinton supporters didn’t work to shut us down or shut us up.
PRETENDING that the party was unified didn’t work.
Online BULLYING by fat little teen punks didn’t work.
So now they’re trying SCOLDING.
They’re getting scared. The mainstream media is starting to NOTICE that alot of us are “Just Say NO in NOvember” fans. And that simply won’t DO, so they’ve got to try to get all parental on us.
Guess what? We aren’t eighteen year old punks worried about our debit VISAs being shut off by Mom or Dad. We’re adults.
We’re old.
We’re pissed.
We’re not putting up with your crap, your threats, your whines, or your attempts to guilt us. We’ve been Democratic Party members FOR FUCKING EVER, and it’s real ANGER at your thuggish efforts to anoint the candidate with the FEWEST qualifications AND the FEWEST votes that drives us to this point–not “irritation” or “annoyance” or any sort of petty gripe.
So listen up, Alice. Understand we aren’t taking your crap. Oh, and fuck you, Donnie. You can’t bully us like those online punkers that Axelrod has hired.
You try to scrape together a majority with those Pringle-eating, rapidly demotivating bunch of nitwits you call a base. You know, the ones who are starting to wrap their pot-addled brains around the concept of what Obama’s vote on FISA (the one he lied about) really SAYS about that flip-flopping liar of a candidate.
All the “victory laps” in the world to Afghanistan and Iraq and Europe won’t make that guy qualified. He’s a lying tool, and you, Donnie and Alice, are his enablers.
Woooooooooooooo hooooooooooooo YEAH! I totally agree.
all of you super delegates that got strong armed or were bribed with job offers into supporting obama thought you were getting nelson mandela, you wound up with robert mugabe….roll call vote at the convention! it’s not too late to save our party and country!!!!! clinton wil win!!!!!!! if not, mcain, followed by clinton2012!
When did politics become sports? We are talking about people and lives affected here. If politics is sport welcome to the ‘Running Man’, next week maybe we can play ‘Rollerball’.
I told those two to kiss my ass. Who the hell do they think they are?
Let them get over it. I’m not giving one penny to the DNC OR their selected, pompous lying candidate.
This is exactly why the SDs who are elected representatives downticket need to be removed at the next opportunity. If it looks like Obama could actually end up winning the GE, I’ll be voting AGAINST every downticket democrat. He can’t be allowed to have the blank check a dominated Dem congress would provide him.
The SDs, for whatever unbelievable reason, threw their support behind the car with four flat tires. We, in this democracy, get to protest that with our votes. I am deathly sick of these idiots trying to tell me what I HAVE to do in November! I’m no longer a democrat, so all I can say is “they aren’t talking to me,” I’m a PUMA!!!
I’m confused. I thought there was no way this empty suit with four flat tires could possibly win? So why even consider what to do if it looks like he might win? There’s not a chance of it, remember? That’s the whole point, the whole reason to somehow, by hook or by crook (and by smear and by lie), to get Hillary the nomination — since she’s the only one who could possibly win… remember?
duh…can you say 2000? bush really shouldn’t have had a chance.
Clearly you goons have no idea how elections work.
Of course if your candidate had shown greater political competence you’d be singing a different tune about the value of forming coalitions and being an effective leader.
Ooh, someone is upset…Don’t take it out on us. Obama is the one who sold you out.
In what way has Obama sold anybody out? The election is yet to be. We haven’t bought anything yet.
Obama cast a vote unpopular with many of his supporters before the election. He stated his reasons. He said if some don’t understand his reasons and consider his reversal a deal-breaker, so be it.
John McCain didn’t vote at all.
So you tell me: Who was being the most straightforward?
Pathetic condescending twits the pair, who do these people, think they are addressing
Don and Alice are BITTER. I guess the god they’re clinging to isn’t as great a candidate as they’d hoped.
This letter is a gross insult to Hillary’s supporters. I guess the DNC really doesn’t get it. We can’t be threatened, bullied, or blackmailed into voting for The Annointed One.
And, the name calling! Does that befit party leaders? Is that what leadership has become?
I’m glad I’m not a Democrat anymore. Who wants to put up with this $hit?
Who the hell do Don and Alice think they are talking to? Since when do any of us take orders from Don and Alice? They need to get a grip.
GO PUMA
The Lakers did not have to spot the Celtics 50 points because the ref thought it would make commissioners and a few of the fans happy. Federer did not have 4 of his points taken away by the line judge, just for the hellof it.
Come on, Donnie, the Celtics did not cheat to win, and if they had believe me Lakers fans would have burned down the town.
and they spectators didn’t HAVE to root for only one team.
In other words, “LET THEM EAT CAKE!”
It would be so easy for me, too, to think this was COMEDY if I hadn’t been hit in the face with this stupid, “superior,” condescending, dismissive, dishonest attitude from ALL OF THEM this whole entire primary season.
They know EXACTLY what they’ve done, though. They’re just hoping that we “dead-enders” can be intimidated into falling in line.
I HATE THEM!
Perfectly stated, Larry. Thanks for this and for letting us know the clownery going on over at the DNC.
We are getting to them, my friends. Thank yourselves and all your PUMA brothers and sisters for this, as well as places like FOX News for allowing us to be heard.
They cannot ignore us and our voice is growing stronger.
Perfect.
Walk on, PUMAs!
Yes, let’s all bow down to Fox — the last vestige of media virtue.
i won’t forgive fox for all they’ve done to the clintons. however, right now, it’s much easier to watch, instead of all the gushing on BONBC. i’m a visual person. the thought of chris matthews getting a tingle in his leg makes me want to barf.
i’ve always channel surfed the news and will watch what interests me. but now it’s a matter of being able to stomach watching crap. same reason i always hated fox is the same reason i’m hating BONBC.
PUMAs, get your prowl on.
How can anyone use a sports analogy for the primary? The Celtics don’t make or sign laws. I doubt that any decision the Celtics make will have much effect on Americans. On the other hand, things like the 4th amendment have consequences, so who we vote for actually matter. We own our votes, and we don’t owe it to any candidate just because they are in the right party.
Alice and Don don’t know the basics of how to persuade people, have zero social skills, and instead of trying to attract people (even based on lies) they alienate them. They are stupid to think that bullying and degrading people is the way to bring them back. If you want to sell a product and convince people about its value, you don’t tell them that they should buy it because otherwise you are stupid and make them feel fatigued and irritable. But I guess Obama ’s followed the same line of reasoning: Blaming the voters who didn’t vote for him not as a reflection of his failure, but of their being bitter, ignorant, or racist.
“The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.”
If you are going to use sports analogies at least use them correctly.
The primaries are not the finals.
If you are say a Redskins fan and the Cowboys beat you in the conference finals and you don’t mind who ever won the AFC side, you sure as hell wont want the Cowboys to win because you HATE them.
Like wise if you like the Redsox and the Yankees beat you and go to the World Series it doesn’t matter who they end up playing because you HATE the Yankees.
Just like in this situation I supported Hillary for a reason and HATE barky for a reason, and I don’t mind McCain.
For 2012, I want a national primary, February 5th, all 50 states should have their primaries on the same day!
No caucuses only primaries. Every state participates and everybody is happy!
Good idea!
But maybe a little later on in the year, maybe April or May.
The democratic party just doesn’t want to hear it…they want some faux show of unanimous support for some schmuck? I don’t think so!
They can kiss my lilly white bitter tasting ass!
Why do these people not realize the convention (the “championship game”) has not been held yet???
You don’t crown someone as the winner until after the game has been played and you don’t name your nominee until after the convention.
The Denver Convention is going to be very interesting.
OBAMA WILL NOT WIN.
Donnie and Alice, you are not the boss of me. You can’t tell me I’m being immature cause you don’t know me from squat. And there is no way in hell you can tell me who I should be voting for. Ain’t happening.
So, we “carp and complain” about a rigged primary season?
Condescending, patronizing, do not have a CLUE about how they’ve trashed democracy and the Democratic Party…
Screw them all!
I wonder if the “believe” troll is really don fowler and alice germond.
You’ll love this:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2378
Winning Combination
End run the Democratic process to rig an election.
Deprive the party of it’s strongest nominee.
Tell 18,000,000 voters they aren’t needed.
Insult and intimidate them when they engage in a dialogue.
Demand a check anyway.
Tell them how to think.
Tell them what to say.
Tell them how to vote.
Have they forgotten it’s *still* a free country?
One other comment…
Don and Alice you are living in denial. This is looking like an extremely dysfunctional family sweeping the dirt under the carpet so the neighbors won’t see it.
Get real. You’ve got a train wreck on your hands. Keep standing on the tracks yelling stop if you must. No one can stop you!
My Letter to Alice:
Alice,
I read your letter today that we Democrats who are not getting behind Obama are poor losers, and we just need to stop being immature and get on board the corrupt party bus and vote for the messiah.
Well let me tell you Alice, I was one of the fortunate 100 Clinton supporters who got a ticket to the RBC meeting. Yeah that is right, there were only 100 of us, because the corrupt DNC gave the other 400 tickets to Obama people. Yes Alice I witnessed you first hand speak, and plea for the disenfranchisement of voters. I saw you argue to have 4 delegates stolen from my candidate, and awarded to the chosen one. I saw you vote that all the uncommitted votes be awarded to a candidate who by his own choosing removed his name from the ballot. I saw how back room deals were made at a lunch that lasted almost four hours when the debate was supposed to be in public. What you don’t realize Alice, is this election is the first time I’ve become an activist, because I could not believe what was happening to my country and my beloved Democracy. My own party allowed voter fraud to take place in the caucuses. My own party allowed a respected U.S. Senator to be destroyed by relentless sexist remarks by the media and fellow Democrats with out saying a word. My own party disenfranchised millions of Americans from having their voices heard. And then I fly out to D.C. on my own dime with the hopes that these unjust and undemocratic acts will be remedied by The Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting. Even after all the horror I witnessed in the election, I still believed that you on the RBC panel would do right by its voters and our constitution. I believed you would never deny the will of the people. Instead, I walked out of that meeting shaking from the atrocity. I never witnessed anything so unjust in my whole life. You rationalized away one of our most fundamental rights as Americans, the right to vote. Why would I ever vote again, if I believed that my vote can be reassigned to a candidate of the parties choosing? Why would I ever vote again if my vote could be stolen away? The people did not choose Obama, The Party did. The Party used everything in it’s power to award Obama the nomination even if that meant lowering the bar for him, and stealing votes.
Well Alice I don’t want to come over to your side. Because your side represents everything I would never want to be. I’m on the side of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, and our founding fathers. They warned us about The Parties using their power only to serve it’s own interest, and not it’s people. Many Americans fought and died for our Constitution, and I will fight and die to preserve it. Voting for Obama means condoning un-democratic behavior. I would die before I would do that.
Sincerely,
MT
Los Angeles, California
What a fantastic letter, and thank you for being there.
Ditto from ME! Thanks Larry.
They can go to hell before I vote for any fraud such as Obama. AND I NO LONGER WILL VOTE FOR PARTY ALLEGIANCE! IT IS THE COUNTRY THAT MATTERS!
NOMINATE A TRUE PATRIOT! A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT! NOMINATE HILLARY CLINTON!
NOBAMA!!
You’re worried that he’s a danger to the republican hegemony in Iraq?
Jeez, he might give the Blackwater and Halliburton contracts to somebody else.
He might even threaten to end a war that’s been a real money-maker for a lot of well-connected corporations.
People tend to forget that the $538 billion thusfar borrowed in the public’s name to finance the War in Iraq has largely gone into private pockets. By some curious coincidence, those who have profited the most have also been the most outspoken supporters of the war and some of the biggest republican campaign contributors.
Not that there’s any connection between profits and patriotism, of course.
Don’t knock it! I love being called immature!
And while I don’t get the sports references, hey, they treat me like “one of the guys”
Seriously, I did love the introduction to this silly piece of “diplomacy”(you wonder why democrats are doing so poorly in congress despite their numbers?)
keep it up! We’re getting to them!
So now we are childish, poor sports. Way to go — that’s a great way to convince the anti-lemming crowd. These guys just don’t get it and don’t deserve to win.
Think I’m going to go over to McCain’s site and donate a few bucks. I hear that he can take our money until their convention
So now we are childish, poor sports. Way to go — that’s a great way to convince the anti-lemming crowd. These guys just don’t get it and don’t deserve to win.
Think I’m going to go over to McCain’s site and donate a few bucks. I hear that he can take our money until their convention.
The correct sports metaphor would be this:
It’s Wimbledon at the final men’s match and the score is Federer and Nadal 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 7-6 when suddenly the chair umpire halts the match. He declares that the result of set 1 is nullified. He changes the rules and states that the match can be decided in 3 sets, which have already been played. He announces that Federer is the winner and no 5th set will be played. The tennis association agrees to this rule change which has occured during the match and awards the victory to Federer.
Meanwhile, the fans are wondering why they bothered to attend the match.
How is that HOUND initiative going?
Tell Don and Alice we want NASCAR and American Idol analogies. Sports are too complicated for the low-info voters.
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Larry says to “Cut the horseshit, clowns”
LOL!
Oh, I haven’t written back these MORONS yet, but I look forward to it. Who tf do they think they are? They are obviously scared shitless of losing, which they will if they keep up this dumb crap.
Well, well, Alice Germond wants to tell us how professional athletes behave when they win or lose …I will tell you as the wife of a professional athlete..i can tell you she is full of horseshit!
When my husbands team lost against the Yankees to go to the World Series , no one would have wanted to be on the charter plane to see grown men cry!..or puke their guts up from still being drunk the night before ,..after losing..then having to face 25,000 hometown people at the airport while still drunk from the night before!
Alice..STFU..it is easy to watch the winner in the daylight..and the loser go away silently..but i assure you..they never get over the loss…
Even Now ..some 30 years later..the loss is still a pain in the heart..and after being at the All-Star game this week in Yankee Stadium..i can still tell you that series of playoff is still one of the most talked about..and still pains the players on my husbands team.
Because they know they were cheated by the umpires..
My husband had to do a speech this past week and he brought up the fact that his wife still can not stomach that umpire…
That umpire cheated us out of the World Series..
Just as Alice Germond cheated us, with her co-horts ,out of a legitimate Presidential candidate.
So go back to your back room deals Alice..but do not ever think that any of us will consider Obama Legit…and you can never give us back our vote ..my vote , and my husbands and son’s vote you stole from us in Florida.
Oh and p.s. Alice..i am a former 2004 delegate that gave alot of $$$ to the dem party…and you can kiss my ass if you think you will ever get another red cent from me ..or another days work from me..
You stole my vote..
Remember this Alice..I am American before democrat..
And my husband lost two years of Major League service ..serving this country in Uniform! A sacrifice your little Obama never made.
In Fact I am loath to see where your Obama manchurian has ever made any sacrifice for this nation at all!
Oh and Alice,..my co-workers were killed on 9/11 in the same city my husbands team lost in..and I will
never vote for someone who has no experience to serve and protect our national security..and if you think Obama is that person..you are sorely mistaken.
fly
P.U.M.A.
Oh and Alice..there is a big difference when an Athlete loses , and when they have their game stolen by a cheater or cheaters..the cheating is never accepted..ever!
When my son was in Little League..i coached his team all the way to the semi finals for the state championship..we walked off the field in the final day when the other coach blatantly cheated..i let the kids decide..they voted and we walked off the field..I was never so proud of a group of kids in my life…almost all of those kids went to college on scholarships for their sport.
There is no compromise of what is right and what is wrong.
Cheating should never ever be accepted, not in sports and not in politics..and not even a simple game of cards, or a friendly game of Monopoly.
Too bad Alice what you represent to kids all over this nation is a bunch of adult cheaters..you Alice, and Dean and Brazile, and Obama, and Pelosi ..are a disgrace..and a piss poor example of American principles and values..
You disgust me Alice, you and the rest of the so called leadership of the dem party! I no longer want your kind of “D” behind my name..I have better values than you have displayed…and I taught my children better values than you seem to think are the “new Democratic values”…values like..you may cheat to win, but you will never be a winner..not in your heart and not in the heart of others who know you cheat.
fly
There are some excellent letters on this thread, yours is another one of them. Thank you.
P.U.M.A
They are party functionaries, not endowed with wisdom or intellect. The more they make comments like these, the more they will lose support.
Go PUMAs.
Go Hillary! (whither goest thou?)
They MUST be worried to send out such bullying letters, and enlist their surrogates in the Obama Movement Team Bloggers to constantly denigrate those who don’t shut up and fall in line.
“Not giving the DNC money; not voting for Obama; not supporting Howard Dean and Donna Brazile; don’t like what the RBC/DNC did in Florida and Michigan.” — Me to DNC phone banker asking for donations.
There must be many more of Me out there if they feel compelled to send out bully memos.
How pathetic: They are going to blame Me if Obama doesn’t win. Well, they should look in the mirror and include themselves in the j’accuse. I don’t have any loyalty to party anymore, thanks to their own actions. So, the party loyalty demands don’t work on me now.
Here’s my email to the duo
Dear Ms. Germane and Mr. Fowler:
Perhaps convenience has been the guiding star in your political careers but for the rest of middle America, we can only dream of having the option, the opportunity, the simplicity of picking the convenient choice. The rest of us here have jobs to keep, homes to finance, families to feed, gasoline to pay for and values to maintain. Which one of these demands would you like us to tell get over it “it’s time to act in a mature and resoureceful fashion?”
I demand more experience from my boss than Barack Obama has for the job of President.
I demand more openness in my financail dealings than Barack Obama has provided about his background and political alliances.
I demand more purity and sustenance from the food I buy than Barack Obama has provided our national with his tired, empty rhetoric.
I demand more value for my dollar than Barack Obama’s uninspired answers to our economic crisis.
I demand more courage from my children when they are faced with choices about their values than Barack Obama has shown in this political contest.
I thought it was your job to ensure the members of the Democratic party that we had the best candidate to vote for in November. I demand more than what you and the DNC has offered me.
Sincerely:
A disillusioned Democrat
To the DNC–
The great MLK said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” If the DNC thinks that their decision to select BO was fair and square then they are in desperate need of values clarification and morality counseling. One of the DNC Obamadons, Mitchell Caeser, spoke on NPR the day after the true primary winner, Hillary Clinton, suspended her campaign. Caesar was asked why didn’t the DNC just simply revote in Florida and Michigan and let the American voters elect the nominee. I will never forget the audacity of his response. He said it would take too long and cost too much money to revote. Meanwhile, we are fighting over in Iraq longer than we were engaged in WWII- billions of dollars have and continue to be spent month after month. Over 5,000 of our greatest treasures–American men and women- have perished. And thousands more have been terribly injured bringing freedom and independence to the people of Iraq. But, the DNC would not allow their fellow Americans to exercise our constitutional right to vote here in our own country. You have subverted the democratic process. This is an outrage. Our rights have been denied. Shame on the DNC for being unamerican and classless. Every voter and every voice counts. You have stolen this election from 18,000,000 people. If the Error Apparent accepts his royal scepter and crown at the Denver coronation, history will hold you accountable for your deception and guile.
I have never voted republican in my entire life and I’ve never missed an election in 35 years. But this year, thanks to your felonious actions, I along with millions of Hillary supporters, will be voting for John McCain. Shame on you. In your heart you know what you did was wrong. You have an opportunity to redeem yourselves in Denver. Do the right thing. Put Hillary on the ballot and conduct a roll call. You’ll sleep better knowing you’ve corrected your mistake. Our country’s future depends on it.
here’s a list of the superdelegates since June 6th. It tells which ones switched from Clinton to Obama. These are the ones we should focus more on.
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html
I’ve made up my mind, I’m voting for McCain so would you politely…….LEAVE ME THE H_LL ALONE!!!!!
This letter is so fucked up it broke my chutzpah meter! It’s so fucked up that when I first read it I thought it came from a Republican 527 in order to keep us continuously pissed, just in case our PUMAness was losing resolve. I’m pretty sure I was not high on acid when I saw Don Folwer’s fat face in the room on May 31. For those of you who have been thinking that the Democratic Party can be saved, I think you better wake up and smell the bullshit.
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