Maliki Disputes Report That He Endorses Obama’s Withdrawal Plan
By Uppity Woman on July 20, 2008 at 4:00 PM in Barack Obama, Campaign Gaffes, Current Affairs, Iraq, John McCain, Obamedia
Characteristic of Obama’s ability to stick his basketball shoes in his mouth without even trying, Iraq PM Maliki’s “Endorsement” of Obama’s Iraq 16-month Magical Arbitrary Hopey Changey Troop Withdrawal Plan was reported by the German newspaper Der Spiegel - and subsequently brought to us by a Chicago Tribune correspondent:
Maliki Backs Obama Troop Pullout Plan
BAGHDAD—Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki threw his support behind Barack Obama’s troop withdrawal plan in an interview published Saturday, ahead of an expected visit by the Illinois senator to a significantly calmer Baghdad than the one he last encountered two years ago.
“U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months,” Maliki told the German news weekly Der Spiegel, referring to the plan the Democratic hopeful outlined last week to bring U.S. troops home over a 16-month period starting next year.
“That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes,” Maliki said.
That the prime minister is publicly endorsing Obama’s Iraq proposals may make it difficult for Republican presidential contender John McCain to continue to justify his support for a more open-ended commitment.
Cool huh? Why, Magical Barky Obama is a hit!
He’s taking Iraq by storm, dribbling his basketball-sized ego everywhere!!
Dribble Dribble! The man is a genius! A dynamo!
A Real Foreign Policy Expert Already! In the Accelerated program. One day here, one day there, a Foreign Policy Expert is made! He’s so good at skipping experience steps isn’t he? A day is YEARs when it comes to our own Barack Obama. It’s the Barack Obama Advanced Placement Program!
He’s so advanced he devised his plan before even visiting the place! I mean how Advanced is that?
Maliki loves him! Maliki agrees with him! Everybody should agree with him! He’s Barack Obama!
Ooops. One problem. Reported by CNN, no less! Somebody alert the media! Oh wait! They ARE the media. It’s just sometimes hard to tell.
CNN: Iraq PM Disputes Report On Withdrawal Plan
But a spokesman for al-Maliki said his remarks “were misunderstood, mistranslated and not conveyed accurately.”
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the possibility of troop withdrawal was based on the continuance of security improvements, echoing statements that the White House made Friday after a meeting between al-Maliki and U.S. President Bush.
The two men “agreed that the goals would be based on continued improving conditions on the ground and not an arbitrary date for withdrawal,” the White House said.
In the magazine interview, Al-Maliki said his remarks did not indicate that he was endorsing Obama over presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain.
Somebody give Barack Obama a basketball right now please. While he is visiting other countries, particulary ones at war, it is so much safer for American Foreign Relations to keep him busy playing ball and gyrating for the girls as much as possible.
We’re not in Chicago anymore, Toto. This kind of eager gaffe between Obama and his Media Pimps can dramatically affect relationships.
(small, medium and large sizes; for both dogs and cats)
+ 
Uppity Woman — So the Ugly American strikes again. I guess this propaganda works. My husband called me to say Maliki agrees with Obama on his timetable.
Uppity Woman states, “So the Ugly American strikes again?”
More like “Barky” meets “Sparky” from National Lampoon’s Arabian Vacation.
For anyone not familiar with the series, this is the sequel to National Lampoon’s European Vacation.
Please, he is Chevy Chase with a tan, but at least Chevy Chase was funny. This clown is frakking SCARY.
http://www.barackobama.com
DONTE GANG! ;o )
The NEXT POTUS!
exactly, Hillary or McCain. Oh I wish Denver would get here
How about I send it a half penny and tell it and you to kiss my fucking ass?
Are you going to answer my debate questions teabag, douchebag, or whatever name you choose next, motherfucker?
Kevin,
Can we lose that language?
Wrong again…Maliki backtracked ONLY after receiving calls from US Embassy and Washington…Malaki’s backtracking came via CENTCOM - duh!! The NY TImes has a copy of the original interview and stands by the translation - as does the magazine, Der Speigel, in which the interview appeared.
so…this was obviously something cooked up by the white house when whath Maliki REALLY said was released.
Maliki is famous for retracting statements after claiming he was misquoted. He is a diplomat mouth piece for the real power in Iraq, and his life at the moment is dependent upon US troop presences in the region. He’ll say whatever we tell him to say.
So, after his initial statement, which was never an explicit endorsement, he “refined hi position” when he got a call from the White House. He and Bush had a nice talk and stuck to improved ground conditions v. an arbitrary date for withdrawal.
Seems your husband is a very smart man.
You should follow his lead and read the transcript (or watch the video) instead of agreeing with everything you read on this lunatic fringe site (no offense).
The proof is in the tape (and the transcript).
It must suck to see the person you are obsessed with doing so damn good.
1 million Germans tomorrow? Hey, I’m just the messenger!
No offense taken considering the source.
Did you read the transcript?
You haven’t answered anybody.
Have you?
Transcript and video of the interviews. It exists.
Will you apologize and update?
Ironically most of Barry’s transripts get scrubbed. Just sayin. Have a nice day.
Why is everybody avoiding such an easy question?
TRANSCRIPTS, AUDIOS and VIDEO DEBUNK UPPITY WOMAN”S SHIT PIECE.
God I LOVE Obama. I want him so bad!
Are the mods playing with the words in my posts are they?
LOL! You guys can’t stand the heat. Scrub and change all you want.
TRANSCRIPTS.
The evidence says you are all full of shit.
Birth certificate- Obama now!
hi believe
good catch
is it believe or is it memorex?
Believe’s the only one that would say “I want him so bad” and has in fact said so before.
CNN Transcript? Just go to CNN dot Com.
You people are dumber than I thought.
Yes we are very quiet in public which is why we blog
Toolbag Larry If you have nothing to say except something dumb and stupid it would be nice if you went over to another blog where the dumb and stupid people are. It seems the majority of the posters here are trying to have some sensable dialoug. I really do not always wish to post frequently,however I do want to see what other people are saying and you stupidity gets in the way of my attempts to enjoy the sensible conversation. You are very annoying Go Away PLEASE!!!
I think you are confused. SHIT is what comes out of Obama’s mouth.
Especially when you squeeze those big ears of his. Obama is like the Play Doh! Fun Factory that way.
Tool,
If you hadn’t gone for Uppity I would have completely ignored your borderline insane drivel.
1. Please show quote and source for where Barky “is doing so well”. I am an English Professor and even I cannot twist any of that into “doing so well”
2. I will give a a very brief lesson on Mid-East Politics. Al Malki has ZERO/NADA power. He is “allowed” his position first by Al Sistani - the Grand Ayotollah, and then by Al Talabani - the Kurd who has the REAL power in Iraq. Those two guys simply have better things to do than talk w/Bush people so al Malaki gets to give himself a title while he suffers through the B/S.
Just go back over news reports for the last year, and see who is giving final authorization on oil, trade deals, and currency issues.
Lastly, because shallow idiots like you bore me to death - go and buy a book or two on Mid-East politics. OR forward me $100/hr in advance through Susan.
So al Malaki, like his counterpart part in Iran, the Powerless Ahmeddinajab (sp?) runs his mouth and you somehow interpet this as “doing well”? Un”Fnn”believeable!
So other than Obalhblah shooting off his mouth in a video, which of course simply feeds his loathsome NARCISSISM - WHO with any prestige or moral authority says that BARKY is right and doing well?
Uppity and I are waiting for an answer!
Nice. See this is where both extreme sides of the political spectrum piss me off. Anyone who’s taken just one Middle Eastern history class knows that Iraq is going to be a mess for years to come and election year politics make shit so much worse. US politicians are busy trying to score tough guy points while everyday Iraqis are just trying to survive. Meanwhile local strong men are busy jockeying for power and ’shut up until after the election’ dollars. We have no idea want we are planting over there and what we will reap. Hell, we’re still dealing with blowback from the first time we dicked around in Afghanistan.
Strawberry,
I agree with you completly. There are many many levels to Mid East Politics.
My points to the troll Tool were why does he even bother with anything al Maliki says - the guy simply does not matter.
What I said is from 20 years experience. Never did take a course in Mid East history - Lawrence of Arabia was the closest I got until Bush I started given them student Visas (I-9’s) as if they were penny candy. With our states very strict In Locus Patentis laws, I certainly learned a lot from them. Hell, I even had some of them living in my house.
Hi fellow bloggers,
please ignore internet trolls-many who have been hired by Obama camp to distract us from our exchange of facts and information. Denver is just a few weeks away. We have too much to do so please DONT WASTE TIME AND ENERGY ON DEBATING WITH PEOPLE WHOSE MAIN GOAL IS TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY.
Hello, McFly? based on continued improving conditions on the ground and not an arbitrary date for withdrawal,” the White House said.
Better take it to CNN, ya think?
I think your Kneecapper got Kneecapped. I love poetic justics.
Hey Uppity why won’t you answer the simple question?
AUDIO.
VIDEO.
TRANSCRIPT.
Why don’t you check them out? It proves your post is bullshit.
It really does. Sorry, it happens to political newbies all the time.
All these exist for the interview you are railing against.
Why are you so afraid of being proved wrong?
This whole post is feces and you know it.
GET THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE INTERVIEW UPPITY.
UPDATE AND APOLOGY PLEASE.
Take it to your beloved CNN.
Can’t stand the heat Uppity?
What does CNN have to with it?
They released the news given to them by Centcom (Bush and Co.).
You state this as fact and when I ask for you to actually listen or read the interview you don’t answer, change my post, or change the subject.
It’s simeple Uppity. Your whole post is a big pile of manure and you know it.
TRANSCRIPT, AUDIO OR VIDEO.
Political newbie indeed.
Link to it yourself, dickless. Christ. Obama is a loser, get over it. The Germans are masters of propaganda, they’ll see barky for exactly what he is. And even though they try very hard to tap down on hate speech, they still have very racist roots. When my husband did back fill for Bosnia, he was an MP. He was stationed in Germany. Patrick Henry Village. Some Muslim kid, robbed a local store and fled to the base to escape the German police. My husband found the kid in a tree but he had no jurisdiction over him. He had to let the German police get him down. The Germans got him down alright, they escorted him off the base and nearly beat him to death. Hubby filed a complaint but nothing ever came of it. I highly doubt the Germans will embrace barky. I lived there for a time and still have family there. They are not known for their love of people of colour.
At a very minimum, somehow blaming Obama for the mistranslation (if indeed it occurred) is a bit of s stretch. (”Characteristic of Obama’s ability to stick his basketball shoes in his mouth without even trying”) How n earth was he involved with the interview of al-Maliki by a German writer?
And I would put more faith in what al-Maliki said in that interview than what he said to the Bush admin, at which time he was no doubt put under pressure to comply with their thinking.
Therefore, it doesn’t matter what Maliki says since he doesn’t make decisions, and he folds under pressure. The President still makes the decisions on our end when dealing with their government, not the presumptive nominee of the Democratic party who is desperately trying to promote his unrealistic 16 month withdrawal campaign promises.
But not starting next year…
Dream on, cupcake. Your guy’s a cream puff.
BULLSHIT is what you are full of. Whereas Uppity Woman is a warrior for freedom and democracy.
Upitty is WHAT !?!?!?
ROFLLLLLL!!!!
LUUUUULLZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!
This blog is great. Are you sure this isn’t satire?
Did you see any pictures of MOMO slinging her AK-47?
I AM GETTING VERY SLEEPY. HMMMMMMMM going under, now. yeah, I see NOT.
Yes, we must follow Hillary. The women should follow their husbands.
Oh, feel the Liberal/Progressive love. Don’t think for yourself. Follow the leader. How authoritarian can you get?
Another Idiot.
The first link shows the roots of the Maxism Barky plans on shoving down our throats.
The Little LEFT Book
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=745
The second links shows HOW Barky plans to do it.
The Brown Skirts
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=956
The Above is WHAT we will ALL get if you bird brains do NOT WAKE UP!
Marty
By your own words, you seek the….
Tattle on yourself much?
How many Euros does each one get for showing up?
I hope they’re butt buddies and Oblowme stays in Iraq to avoid his hellish wife.
That’s change I wish I could count on.
One less terrorist in the USA.
What transcript are you talking about?
After only one day in Afghanistan, Obama has full grasp of the situation and has devised a plan: Adopt McCain’s plan.
Ummm.
Hate to break it to you bud.
That’s been Obama’s plan all along.
Thanks for playing though.
Got news for you bud go back a few articles that was McCain’s plan in 2006. Not Obama’s.
Was that before or after he changed his mind?
Sorry to break it to you bud, other than the crazies on this blog, it’s Obama’s position and issue to win.
Damn it must suck to be you guys.
Hating on the man when he is so damn right most of the time!
Well, it looks like you are a few tools short of a toolbag Larry.
If I had all the tools I needed to be a complete toolbag…..
I’d have to change my name to Larry Johnson.
Are you going to defend your candidate’s posititions, background, assiciations, resume, beliefs or any of the points I raised earlier, boy?
Or are you just on the annoy, and agitate shift, with nothing to add besides juvenile insults and sophomoric rants?
And the term boy, is not racist, it relates to your immaturity.
http://www.barackobama.com
DONATE TO THE NEXT POTUS!
(I don’t debate with the deluded)
You don’t debate because you are Cowards!
Of coarse you don’t debate, neither does Flopbama.
LOL that explains why you’re here instead of over at Huffy Poo.
Don’t you have enough people outside the county, Middle East Etc.contributing. you just click “yes” on his website
If I were you, I’d sue the surgeon who did your circumcision, since he clearly took off too much off the top.
Circumcision?
Did you learn that big word today?
Nice to see some of you rednecks using 4 syllable words.
LMAO sorry about that. We normally try to keep our words limited to two syllables so you BOBOweenies will feel more at home when you show.
The reverend Jackson did it- Ouch
He just calls ‘em nuts.
Jacksons a moyle!?
Does it matter? McCain said it in 2006 which means he stold McCain’s plan. Just as he’s now trying to steal all Hillary’s plans. Is he even capable of coming up with his own plans? Doesn’t look like it to me.
I don’t remember Obama being right in 2004 when he said Bush’s strategy was his while McCain supported the surge that is winning the war.
toolbag, Obama has been too lazy, (as usual) to conduct any hearing on Afghanistan. He is not in a position to formulate a position, unless it’s the position of some of Carter’s old hacks.
That’s Toolbag Larry to you!
I guess you’re thin-skinned just like someone else we know. Who would that be? Ummm………
douchebag obviously cannot defend the enlightened one, it must resort to infantile insults, ignoring pertinent points, and otherwise showing itself to be far younger than some of my tattoos.
crack don’t smoke itself
No, you’re just a tool.
You’re a bigger crackhead than Oblowme, who wouldn’t know a plan if it bit him on the ass unless it involved bombing the U.S. and one of his terrorist mentors.
When everything you’ve done politically is a fantasy, why not create more so you can avoid the truth?
After all, it was the Chicago Trib and who has control over the Trib, but none other than its former poltical editor David Axelrod.
Imagine if Chicago got the 2016 Summer Games, they’d twist everything into American wins no matter what the outcome of the event was, they’d do so the Chicago Way!
Sam Zell is the evil troll who sank the Trib and the LA Times as well, he and Murdoch are on the Board of AP, giving that organization its death knell as well, Nedra ‘crotchshot’ Pickler is their idea of a journalist..
tripe is what it is
here is the ‘calss’ of Zell:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDy7vn7-LX4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jpkBeijRICI
Sam Zell is at it again after saying “F#%K You” to a Tribune staffer, he now calls a Tribune Executive a “Mother F%$ke
Sam Zell is the evil troll who sank the Trib and the LA Times as well, he and Murdoch are on the Board of AP, giving that organization its death knell as well, Nedra ‘crotchshot’ Pickler is their idea of a journalist..
tripe is what it is
here is the ‘clss’ of Zell:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDy7vn7-LX4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jpkBeijRICI
Sam Zell is at it again after saying “F#%K You” to a Tribune staffer, he now calls a Tribune Executive a “Mother F%$ke
look at the troll:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yxZRq2hiS-w
Zell TROLL KING visits LA Times
viagra jokes, real class
gee wonder why editor quit? hmmmm
Great.
Reminds me when AP came out with a bogus story about Hillary all day and never even retracted when they were proven wrong in about 3 hours.
No one must have told them that they needed to make a correction with a pseudo-apology.
Tear down the slums just like in Beijing, of course Tony will be out of jail by then, lowballing the contract to rebuild and manage them
News that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supports Barack Obama’s troop withdrawal plan was hailed by Congress’ top Democrat, Nancy Pelosi, as evidence of deep flaws and inconsistencies in President Bush and John McCain’s policies for Iraq.
“[Bush], McCain, and others have always talked about respecting the will of this sovereign government in Iraq,” said the Speaker. “They have said that when it is secure on the ground we can leave, and they claim it is [secure]. So I think that with all the indications in terms of the will of the government and the security that they are claiming on the ground, it would follow that the time has come for us to go. It is long overdue.”
In a wide-ranging interview with the Huffington Post, Pelosi threw sharp jabs at both the outgoing president and the presumptive Republican nominee. Asked whether Maliki’s remarks - in which he explicitly favored Obama’s approach to US-Iraq relations - had removed the philosophical basis for McCain’s war policy, she responded: “I have never seen any basis for a policy to go into Iraq.”
“It doesn’t make any sense,” she continued. “‘Why aren’t you happy that we have a secure situation on the ground,’ they say. And yet we can’t go home.”
Pelosi also offered harsh words for the president’s personal conduct. Asked for her reaction to Bush’s declaration that he had given up golf out of respect for U.S. soldiers, the Speaker proclaimed herself at a loss for words.
Too bad Pelosi ony has “harsh words” for Bush when Impeachment is in order.
Nancy “will of the people (my ass)” Pelosi.
evidence
Once upon a time that meant something evident.
They are all playing with our heads. Shame on our lying eyes.
What would we do without the brilliant Nancy Pelosi?
I’d be so lost without her.
“Truth is the enemy of governments.”
The headline ‘Maliki Agrees’ was blasted around the world. ‘Maliki Disputes the Account’ - no one wants to mention that.
What did Mark Twain say?
A lie makes it way around the world before the truth can get its pants on.
So true. Maybe this will give Malaki a better understanding of Obama and Company and how untrustworthy and opportunistic they are.
candy, I have a feeling that Mark Twain and his ilk are headed under the bus in due course.
I would say CNN reaches enough folks. Wonder why they reported this? They would be the first to protect Plastic Jesus. You think his kneecapping a New Yorker reporter, a member of the PRESS CLUB had anything to do with that?
Hey Upitty Douchebag.
You’re full of shit.
see, now you’ve lost it Heh Heh Heh
Larry and Susan,
Toobag has a potty mouth and is not adhering to the standards you set.
Time to pull his posting priveleges.
Gee Tool -
Are you one of the 300 advisors your nitwit candidate has to have for a primary?
No wonder he sucks so much if you’re typical.
Does fight the smears know that your are using profanity? Thats not a good way to keep your job.
When are people going to start getting fired for this stuff? Really. Liz Sly at the Chicago Tribune should be fired immediately.
Damn that woman for doing her job!
Fire her immediately!
She must not speak the truth!
She must only speak tinfoil conspiracy theory propaganda!
Then I guess your beloved CNN’s recant is a lie.
You find nothing suspicious with the fact that Centcom (U.S.A.) released the statement?
You’re a bigger political newbie than I thought.
16 months is tinfoil propaganda. It’s irresponsible and unrealistic. Obama is an idiot.
Because you have so much more foreign experience than he does, right?
Better get Obama on the phone A.S.A.P. !!!
Somebody from a lunatic fringe site has an opinion!
NoKKKwarterites are going to save the world one smear at a time!
I’ve lived in several countries. Not as child either. I’d say I have more experience Dealing in foreign relations and being sensitive to the particular needs of said country than Obama does. A tour, just before an election, does not foreign policy experience make.
So living in another country counts as foreign policy experience?
Do you REALLY want to go there? HAHAHA!
According to Barky it is.
That’s what I meant.
Thanks for playing!
Obama is going to lose in November. You know this to be true or you would not be here. I’m laughing at you.
It’s sad, but true
Is it a full throated belly laugh or just a maniacal giggle?
If it’s strawberry, it’s the former. (that means the first choice offered)
He’s going down. Dude. Get over it. I just hope he doesn’t cause a riot in Germany. That would go over well, wouldn’t it?
Just making speeches there counts.
Obama never attended or held meetings on his own subcommittee or the Senate Foreign Affairs committee. This is his first trip to Iraq in nearly three years and his first trip to Afghanistan ever. He has been in the Senate barely a year, and he has spent that entire time running for President! He has as much foreign policy experience as you or me or anyone on this site.
As an adult, not a child. As a representative of the American government. But you deliberately misconstrued my point.
and a couple of speeches and hoops does?
And it really pisses me off that OUR TAX MONEY is paying for that shallow NARCISSIST’s Photo Ops.
Gawd he makes me gag!
I suck at math.
….and history.
the tool bag was actually invented in the Pleistocene as a means of transporting various rocks…
Like the one’s in his head?
If you can read, the only thing I’ve commented on is current events.
Bag o’shit
rofl We now have another conspiracy theory. They’re out to get Obama!! They’ve did nothing but praise him all this time, now they’re out to get him. We’re the Political Newbies? I thought we we’re all the old biddies/hot air bags. Sheesh I can’t keep up with who I’m supposed to be anymore.
Let’s see I’ve been:
A racist
A bigot
A typical white person
A gun toting redneck
A Bible thumper
A faggot(and I am a female)
An old wind bag
A hot air bag
An old biddie
A closet Republican
A Republican
Now I’m a Political Newbie…
THEY”RE ALL OUT TO GET BOBO ?!?!?!?!?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!1
Yes, it that wonderful “party unity”, brought to us by the clowns that are currently running the dnc. So inspiring, isn’t it?
Unity?
We don’t need or want you.
Actually crushing McCain in the E.V. polls, thank you very much.
Then this should work out well. LOL you won’t have us
Don’t forget a “dead-ender”
President Obama -
As if your name didn’t say it all - you’re too stupid to vote. Go ask Rezko for a loan. I’m sure he’ll give you one just like he’d give one to anybody.
Vote for Mr. Freeze, but don’t bitch when it gets cold.
Mr. President, Judith Miller was just doing her job too, I guess? It would seem the job no longer consists of verfying information, but I doubt she will be fired right away. It took the NYT three years to ask for Miller’s resignation. It just happened to coinside with the unpopular turn the war was taking.
The LA times just posted the same story with no mention of him disputing it. Then I come here and read it. These are the journalist in America? A blog, has reported the facts while newspapers are reporting the lies? Then they wonder why they’re not selling newspapers. They don’t even bother to reseach what they report.
CNN reported It, not a “blog”. Their report came out after the first story came out, you know, the propaganda one? Try actually clicking on the little blue things when you read a story. They are called links. Mmmkay?
Get your hands on the transcript and video Uppity.
Or are you to small minded and scared to be proven wrong?
Why don’t you update with the full transcript?
It’s called proof and it blows this bullshit propagand piece out of the water. Mmmkay?
Larry is alot smarter than this. He won’t touch this story with a 10 foot pole.
Maliki says he shares Bush’s sentiment based on continued improving conditions on the ground and not an arbitrary date for withdrawal,” the White House said. I think that’s pretty clear.
You know what I mean.
The interview transcript.
What are you guys afraid of?
Oh right. You’re afraid of being called on you bullshit.
To late for that!
post it
oh and we are alos going to need links to BOBO’s last three positions on Iraq. No make that his last four positions on Iraq, LOL just so we can try to keep all his flim flammery straight.
OK tool. Here is the CNN version. As someone said not too long ago, the discussion with foreign governments, especially Middle Eastern countries, is nuanced and subtle. That is why it is a good policy to keep your mouth shut when quoting leaders of other countries unless you have something else to back it up. He had not even spoken with Maliki when that article was posted.Really stupid. Now, if you want the transcript posted here, go for it. This is still one of the few remaining truly democratic blogs on the Internet.
(CNN) — A German magazine quoted Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki as saying that he backed a proposal by presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq within 16 months.
Nuri al-Maliki told Der Spiegel that he favors a “limited” tenure for coalition troops in Iraq.
“U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months,” he said in an interview with Der Spiegel that was released Saturday.
“That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes,” he said.
But a spokesman for al-Maliki said his remarks “were misunderstood, mistranslated and not conveyed accurately.”
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the possibility of troop withdrawal was based on the continuance of security improvements, echoing statements that the White House made Friday after a meeting between al-Maliki and U.S. President Bush.
In the magazine interview, Al-Maliki said his remarks did not indicate that he was endorsing Obama over presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain.
“Who they choose as their president is the Americans’ business. But it’s the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that’s where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited,” he said.
“Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic,” al-Maliki said.
The interview’s publication came one day after the White House said President Bush and al-Maliki had agreed to include a “general time horizon” in talks about reducing American combat forces and transferring Iraqi security control across the country. iReport.com: What should the next president know about Iraq?
The Bush administration has steadfastly refused to consider a “timetable” for withdrawing troops from Iraq.
In a statement issued Friday after a conversation between Bush and al-Maliki by closed-circuit television, the White House said that conditions in Iraq would dictate the pace of the negotiations and not “an arbitrary date for withdrawal.”
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The two men “agreed that the goals would be based on continued improving conditions on the ground and not an arbitrary date for withdrawal,” the White House said.
In an interview to air Sunday on “Late Edition,” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that “those goals are being achieved now, as we speak. And so, it’s not at all unusual to start to think that there is a horizon out there, in the not too distant future, in which the roles and responsibilities of the U.S. forces are going to change dramatically and those of the Iraqi forces are going to become dominant.”
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said al-Maliki had made it clear that such decisions will be based on continuing positive developments.
“It is our shared view that should the recent security gains continue, we will be able to meet our joint aspirational time horizons,” he said.
The prime minister’s remarks emerged as Obama visited Kuwait and Afghanistan before embarking on a tour of the Middle East and Europe to boost his foreign policy credentials. He also plans to visit Iraq.
The Democratic candidate says he supports a phased withdrawal of troops, promising to remove all combat brigades from Iraq within 16 months of taking office if he becomes president.
McCain does not think American troops should return to the United States until Iraqi forces are capable of maintaining a safe, democratic state.
He has been a strong advocate of the 2007 “surge” to escalate U.S. troop levels and says troops should stay in Iraq as long as needed.
McCain says Obama is wrong for opposing the increased troop presence, and Obama says McCain’s judgment is flawed.
What’s a litle refinement these days?
We’d better hold on to our dictionaries because English is being refined very quickly.
? Rememember back in the olden days when words had specific meanings. Like a looong time ago, last summer.
Distraction is the new diversion. Refinement is the new I fucked up or even more recently, refined: I’ve been threatened. Pie was something you had for dessert. Hula Hoop was a game we played in the front yard. …
Can I please have some cyanide with my Kool-Aid? Drastic Measures, I suppose.
Americans have built perm. bases in Iraq.
Halliburton has relocated to a regional State.
Barky’s handlers will not allow him to withdrawl.
There are making too much money.
Flippy the Flip Flopper 0buma will Renig on Iraq just like FISA.
Take it up with CNN. They get paid to report. They are your Obamamedia. They reported it, not me.
But to be honest I think your Kneecapper got Kneecapped. That is what you call Poetic Justice. And it’s only just begun. How does it feel?
It just merely a distaction. We must divert our attention to what is going on here for the next few days.
I peronally am only looking for 2 miracles.
1. an authentic birth certificate among many, many other douments. (Your candidate admits to being sloppy with paperwork and
pushing wrong buttons when attempting to submit votes and making boneheaded financial mistakes in his own personal business).
2. a trip across the Mediterranean in his barefeet. (no flippers or anythng)
Then I will agree to come to my senses, may be not though (refining my thinking),because there’s still that little issue outstanding called the convention.
I’m waiting for him to part the Red Sea.
I think that’s happening as we speak.
And you are comparing intellect with others?
alot - not an english word
newbie - also not an english word
Hating on the man when he is so damn right most of the time! - Is this a sentence? An english teacher would beat your ass raw for writing such drivel.
These are just a few examples of your puerile drivel, that you mistake for debate.
Face it teabag, you’re an idiot. And a very special one at that. But, Barky loves you, this you know, cause the kool-aide tells you so.
Tool-
Didn’t you have it when you read it?
Why would anybody else care what a tool wants?
Make yourself useful Tool.
Get it yourself.
I’m sure that you have a White House Press Pass, high level security clearance and all.
Me? I wasn’t talking about CNN. I just came back from reading the article on the LATimes and this was the first article, which this is a blog. Before I read what CNN said. So yes a blog did report the facts (whether it was links to CNN or not) while the LATimes was posting the lies. The fact that I find it on a blog first leaves me no confidence in the LATimes. They couldn’t research and find it on CNN? I can’t tell who anyone is responding too.
Actually I think the Trib reporter got it from the German news coverage.
THE EVIDENCE SAYS YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.
TRANSCRIPT, AUDIO OR VIDEO.
They all say the same thing….
Upitty Woman has shit coming out her ears.
Post it.
Toolbag, it is unfortunate you are reacting in an unbecoming way. Breath into a paper bag for a few minutes and then you will feel well enough to post your information by yourself. Then we can talk about what it all means. We can compare Maliki’s flip flops with Obama’s and see if we can’t get some synchronized flip flopping.
Thank you Uppity. With all the trolls on a rampage I was getting really confused. As to who was answering whom. I also found it here on the NY Times. Sorry if someone has already posted the link.
http://tinyurl.com/5ur282
Holy crap! Media pimps indeed. Guess who the ho is?
Ho?
Hey, no sexism around these parts! Right?
Riiiiiight? ::crickets::
Besides the fact that barfy is giving his berlin speech at a monument that shares its identity with germany’s largest gay magazine.
Can his handlers say
oops?
http://www.siegessaeule.de/tt20.shtml
but toolbag, or should we call you teabag, you’re down with that, right. that’s how you roll
not that there’s anything wrong with that.
An accusation of sexism coming from one of barfy’s trolls is quite laughable.
Going to throw the race card next, poopsie?
Already did downthread.
This is site isn’t called NoKKKwarter for nothing.
It’s hilarious to see obviously uneducated political newbies speak of history as if they knew what the hell they were talking about.
You had better stay in school for a long time to catch up, pissant.
As for politics, you pissant, let me put it this way: I recognize this race from another time when you were still having bladder accidents in school and your mother had to bring you a change of clothes.
Now go dump the garbage. Your parents are tired of supporting your ass.
Hey Uppity….
DID YOU READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPT !?!?!?
It says, and I quote :
“Uppity Woman from known lunatic fringe hate site NoKKKwarter was called on her bullshit and instead of backing up her claims decided to insult and smear in hopes that nobody notices” End quote.
It’s so easy to make you look bad when you have nothing to back up your pathetic accusations.
GET YOUR HANDS ON THE VIDEO, AUDIO AND TRANSCRIPT PLEASE!
Until then, kindly STFU.
Thanks!
Did CNN read it? Better take it up with them and Mr. Maliki.
Still avoiding reading the transcripts Uppity Newbie?
The evidence says you are full of shit.
Toolbag is just screaming LIAR, because he has nothing to back his argument up. This reminds me of when they kept saying Rev. Wright wasn’t batshit crazy or a racist. “You should watch the whole sermons.” Then he got tossed under the bus when he called Obama a “typical politician who will say anything to get elected.”
Kindly shut the fuck up?
Gosh, what a nice manners for stoolbag, Larry.
Considering Uppity is the author of this blog post. Toolbag thinks he has some right to show up on this site and tell the author to STFU, when he has yet to make a point or post a link or get along with the regulars. If this were an actual room, he’d be bounced.
How old are you?
Listen to yourself.
You’re a PROUD Obama supporter?
You certainly are doing a great job “representing” your team! I’m sure Axelrod is SO proud of you!
That post is priceless for its lack of maturity, crudeness, and lack of anything that approaches HOPE or CHANGE, there, Believe.
Keep up the good work–you’re solidifying the ABB vote better than any paid McCain operative could. Heckuvajob, there Brownie!
Believe says she’s a 50 YO woman and a feminist, too. LMAO. Oh, yeah. She’s a Jew, too. What a liar.
Sorry teabaggin, I was out showing my part filipino kids how to rig a cross for burning and getting their hoods to fit right.
As to your claim of my being uneducated, I’ll put my intelligence up against your alleged brilliance any day, cupcake.
Calling us racist is the method of a small mind, to paraphrase uppity, own your shitty, racist candidate. Defend his history. Defend his associations. Defend his lack of credentials. Defend his resume. Defend Grove Parc Plaza
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
Defend his friend Rezko, who built it, who managed it.
Defend his friends, William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, Terrorists.
GO AHEAD YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG! DEFEND IT ALL!
I DARE YOU!
LEGITIMIZE IT! DEFEND IT! RATIONALIZE IT! TRY NOT TO CALL US RACISTS WHILE YOU DEFEND THIS MOTHERFUCKER! GO AHEAD POOKIE! GO GET A NICE GULP OF BARACK-AIDE AND TAKE A BIG TOKE OFF THE BONG OF HOPE! GET YOUR BARACRAP TOGETHER AND DEFEND THE CHOSEN ONE! IT’S YOUR TIME, BE THE BALL, TEABAG!
Aren’t you all people, even non-whites, who are not pro-Obama racists? Geeze, get with the program.
Now where did I leave my Hitler Monument Decal and my brown shirt?
You can buy one at the concession stand near the victory col.
I wonder if they have Der Speigel dildos.
For such an educated person you believe really stupid stuff.
Not to mention the really backwards blogs you spend your time on.
Their is a little world out there called REALITY. You might think of taking a stroll and checking it out son.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha,,, we keep hearing that BOBO’s base is educated . Those dummies actually believed BOBO opposed telecom immunity LOL
Tool-
It’s There, not their, yet you claim to be an educated genius!
Also, stop talking out your ass.
Teabag. You have the wrong thing in front of “bag” You are so…..so….STUPID. It is SAD. What is between Your EARS A brain you say?. I don’t think so.
Bag it, bag.
Larry: What do you keep in your toolbag?
Can I take a guess?
His vibrating cell phone and a really hot pic of HoBO.
Uneducated? I’m a lawyer.
Were your teabagging privileges revoked? Axelrod must have agreed with us that you suck.
Comment by tool bag
“It’s hilarious to see obviously uneducated political newbies speak of history as if they knew what the hell they were talking about”.
If only you really knew dipit!
The folks that decide elections have a rude awakening for you.
When you’re crying like a wussy on election night don’t forget to call out your Messiah’s name.
After taking a stroll through these comments I can tell you people are political newcomers and I’m just trying to help you out.
Political newbies.
Everybody has to start somewhere! :o)
I stood up in 1998 and said at a young republicans rally that americans would vote for GWHB over Dukakis because they were “Stupid”
were you just a glint in daddy’s eye back then?
I voted for Mondale for crying out loud. Was mommy old enough to pop a piece of shit like you out in 1984?
I doubt it.
I was wondering, how many offices did you run for and win?
Politics has been my passion long enough to recognize a pissant when I see one.
Your hardly worth the effort…
Emasculated tool bag
New definitions for everything!
he is full of shit right?? just kiddin man!
Tool-
Nice pic of you awaiting OBLOWME!
You suck and so does he.
Obama is a “ho” not a “bro” and that is not a sexist comment or racist, just the facts. He is the biggest opportunist I’ve ever seen “selected” for office. He even makes G.W. Bush look presidential.
Obama is not a ho. Michelle is a ho. Isn’t that funnyyyyyyy? I know the Obama camp loves calling wimmin hos. So I don’t want Ho Obama to be left out.
Obama is a duplicituous panderder. Oh wait, that’s a ho. Damn.
Michelle is a ho?
Nothing sexist here.
Really, you PUMA kitties (all 50 of you) have got to stay on message.
Uppity Woman the political noob strikes again!
Hey “I’m just messin’ with ya man!”
Heh.
Meeechelle is a FRIGID HO! Middle aged and all.
Hey TOOLBAG, check your sac cause Were juss messin!
Yeah, she is. Just ask your uncle daddy.
I think we should view any Obama/Maliki 16 month troop reduction
with Great Suspicion!
Maliki leans towards Iran. If given a chance the Iranians along with a complicit Maliki would align themselves together against the United States.
That is exactly what we don’t want to happen!
Obama through his naiveness is already taking the bait from Maliki for unilateral surrender.
Obama by showing his hand repeatedly on the 16 month plan for retreat has given our enemies a timetable for victory against America.
All the Iranians have to do is wait another 16 months to control and influence Iraq. We may even see terrorists elected into the Government such as Hezbolah which will complete Osama’s strategy of politically controlling a Sovereign state such as Iraq.
Benchmarks and progress depends on conditions on the ground. Gen Patreous makes the decision on troop reductions based on sustainable security.
Maliki wants us out because he is a shiite who looks to Iran to complete a greater hegemony over the region
Obama if elected will give up Iraq and allow Iran to take control of it.
Maliki and his buds lived in Iran right?
Maliki was sentenced to death under Saddam and lived for some time in Iran.
Maliki if he could would commit genocide against the Sunni’s and we saw that with the death squads.
America and the Sunni’s aligning themselves in An-Albar put a stop to that plan.
Under Obama/Maliki the Sunni’s are out and the Iranians are in control.
The United States will have also lost it’s influence.
That’s true Obama’s victory guarantees a larger Iranian crescent. A McCain victory would guarantee a more balanced government between sunni and shia influences.
I hear you. I just wanted to emphasize if that is still a word that means to stongly concur and sort of reiterate emphatically (?) in stating that we must always be be suspicious anytime the word Obama appears in what we used to call a sentence.
W00T!!!
And the Uhhbamapalooza Tour keeps giving,it is a Gift from the Universe..
his arrogance IS his undoing
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL
BOOYAH!!!!
A tune for Uhhbama
The Clash Live
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA
Should I stay or Should I Go
Maybe this will help him define his blurry flipfloppy foreign policy better than his 300 paid advisers, BWAAAHAAAAAAAAAA
Is you is, or is you ain’t?
Mr. Murder, you slay me. The Clash, yeah. I need something to remind me that I once had a life with some joy in it.
Or is you?
I ain’t.
Wouldn’t it be cool if HoBO decided to stay abroad? No pun intended, I’m sure. I was thinking that he would love it somewhere it drizzles alot. He’s never seen a puddle that he isn’t compelled to glance in.
Nobody finds it suspicious that Centcom were the ones who released the statement? You people are political newbies.
5 of the first 8 comments (including the post by Uppity) are downright racist.
NoKKKwarter indeed.
I live in my mother’s basement.
yep.. that’s right… all critisim of that fraud is racist..seriously you need to get a new campaign strategy..
the fruad just looks like some overgrown kid playing dress up as a presidential candidate and HE IS WAY OVER HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a spellchecker or learn to write properly.
My eyes are bleeding.
My heart bleeds for your eyes. Seriously.
You want the truth? I think your Kneecapper got Kneecapped. That’s what I think. I LOVE poetic Justice. Ouch! Now he knows how it feels. And it’s not over. He’s not in Chicago anymore.
Oh look! The Race Card! We haven’t seen that on this site in at least twenty minutes.
Oh please, grab something outta your bag of trix and alleviate yourself.
How’s $8.50 an hour to go fuck yourself. Meet ya on Pay Pal.
LMAO. Nice one!
You need to google “Black Liberation Theology”, which is the religion that Obama believes in and has subscribed to for 20 years. Have you ever done that? Then come back here and talk to us about being a racist! If you don’t have a problem with his being part of that ugly, nasty anti-white, anti-semetic, anti-American religion, then you’re an absolute idiot.
And your momma wants your lazy, do-nothing, sponging ass out of there, they’re hiring down at the Quik-e-mart, get a job, a life and some perspective.
AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!
OR AT LEAST ONE.
DEFEND GOVE PARC!
GIVE IT A SHOT TWINKLES.
Prove that Centcom released the statement(Where’s the statement, btw). To my minor knowledge of the military, Centcom can only release info that is specific to Centcom. Centcom does not represent Iraq, Centcom can not speak for anyone higher in the chain of command.
Get your hands on the transcript guys. It seems the only ones looking foolish are you and Republicans you carry water for.
So CNN is lying or did you forget to click on the little blue link too?
First of all,I was a Democrat when your mother was still feeding you liquids. What I am not is a left over member of the failed socialist, communist and marxist parties that keep trying to hijack my party every decade or so. They usually do it by duping children. And the silent majority of the party, which doesn’t let children and radicals pick presidents, always show up to vote in huge blocks.
This fringe is the reason we have only elected two presidents in 40 years, soon to be 44.
Get your hands on this, Douchebaguette
That’s French, Larry.
Really?-
Click on the link provided above. Are all Oblowme voters as pathetic as you, Really?
The Obambots are afraid of new information. No information but what the Furher releases. If they read or digest any new information, they will self destruct in 60 seconds, if they chose to accept the mission.
The Gaffe-a-thon Rolls On: Obama Expects to Be President “For the Next 8-10 Years”
http://patriotroom.com/?p=575
Somebody PLEASE tell me he didn’t say that.
Thanks, Bill! Please keep this going.
Also, don’t forget the part about: no prsident can be elected twice…i case there is more to it.
Clinton/ Clinton 08
Does this “constitutional law” instructor know about the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution? Or, does he intend to ignore it and become dictator?
Or, maybe he just doesn’t know the Constitution.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/barack-obamas-b.html
They predict 1 million Germans will turn out to hear the next POTUS speak.
On the other hand, you could fit all the PUMA’s in the back of a Prius.
Hear the kitties purrrrrrrr!!!!!
Well of course many will show up to watch next week, after all how many foriegners chose to speak at a location as significant as the one location specifically chosen by Hitler?
Hey bofore I forget Marty, you going to find a real job after your $7/hr troll one is done shortly? Hear the Tribune is looking for delivery boys for the Southside of Chicago, the place Bambi never did a thing for, you think you are able to handle all those angry folks when they find out you trolled for their useless community organizer that used them?
You mean the useless community organizer who’s going to get millions to come out just to hear him speak?
THAT useless community organizer?
Or do you mean the one who is crushing John McCain in every E.V. poll?
I get the 2 confused.
They are both going to be the next POTUS so no harm, no foul.
You guys live in an alternate universe. It’s really fascinating.
LOL….you are a joke, especially with your polls crushing excuse….lol
So you think millions huh, what rock band did Axelrod hire to perform like in Portalnd, before Obama speaks there?
Not rock. Beyonce and her secret husband J.Z
Where is there a poll that shows Obama crushing McCain in polls? In national polls, Obama leads by 4 pts. Rasmussen shows him leading by 2 pts. We all remember in PA, nothing short of 10 pts. would be considered “crushing.” In NV, Obama leads by 2 pts. In NH, they’re tied. In CO, Obama leads by 3 pts. In VA, they’re tied. In FL, McCain leads by 3 pts. In MO, McCain leads by 3 pts.
Hope now you know the Obamatrons live in a fantasy world. If they want to believe he is crushing McCain in the polls, well let them. Nov 4th will be like taking candy from a baby.
Believe!
bwahahahahaha
It’s just deja vu to some of us who have seen this all before. He won’t win. And in ten years you will be saying, “WHat the hell was I thinking!”.
Cut the rocks smaller Marty.
Don’t inhale so deeply.
Typical Obot, trix are for kids. Your only solace is that many people come to see him talk to himself. Why? I know, because you can not adequately defend his political positioning and repositioning and re-repositioning.
I suppose you are trying to make us cry. Well, millions of people go see KISS or Aerosmith or Jay Z, but NO ONE wants either of them to be president.
The fact is McCain was right. Maliki confirms this.
We will remove troops as quickly as possible, but only by listening to conditions on the ground not Barry’s artificial 16 month timetable.
But you guys can choose to ignore the reality if you want. You’re good at that. Cause after all, nothing in the world actually happens unless you BELIEVE it can happen. Right?
Reality?
Your lecturing me on reality?
LMAO!!!!!!
My mother didn’t give me any money today so I am stuck inside posting on message boards.
You’re.
Since you’re trying to come off as smart.
No shit?
So the 16 month timetable - which Hillary supposedly backed as well is now wrong?
Every day you reveal yourselves as the RNC front you are. Sorry Larry your CIA tricks are not working - you were not there long enough.
Hilary had plans for meeting the benchmarks and had the foreign policy chops and working knowledge of our military to be able to back that up. Obama just co-opted the 16-month timetable after Hillary made it sound plausible. Then he called Hillary “Bush-Cheney Lite” based on “her vote for the Iraq war” (lie: she voted to authorize the President to dispatch peace-keeping troops to accompany the UN weapons inspectors, and he betrayed that trust and lied. Deja vu.)
1 million Germans will come to be entertained. and they don’t vote.
Now as to Here Kitty Kitty, your pussy candidate is in for a surprise. For starters, let’s take the polls, which have the democrats whol will never vote for Obama between 10-24%. So that means between 1,800,000 and 4,320,000. If that doesn’t concern you, carry on.
Now let’s move on to your pussy’s lead. Let’s see, hmmmm. George McGovern himself had a 17 point lead at this point in the election. Mike Dukakis had a 15 point lead at this time. Shall we get into Kerry’s lead?
But don’t let these things concern you. Have some cheetos.
Which countries president is he running for?
of course the germans will turn out, they heard the circus will be in town……you know ringling, barnum, bailey and obama ! send in the clown….
Which band is the headliner?
Marty,
German citizens cannot legally vote in the American election. Of course with the way Obama runs his campaign . . .
Is Obama going to get a popular band, or maybe David Hasselhoff, to give a free concert for him in Germany like he got the Decemberists to do in Portland? This makes it look like everyone came to see him when in fact they came out for a free concert?
What is that tune Decemberists start their concerts with? Oh, yes, the Soviet National Anthem. Did Obama put his hand over his heart for that Anthem?
Somebody give Barack Obama a basketball right now please. While he is visiting other countries, particulary ones at war, it is so much safer for American Foreign Relations to keep him busy playing ball and gyrating for the girls as much as possible.
Uppity - This is why we don’t let children pick presidents OR let children pretending to be dead presidents meet with foreign officials during 2 wars.
Bill,
Tell us more. He’s in it for life.
Also, about no president can be ‘elected’ twice…
Is there more to that?
Clinton/Clinton 08
Promise to write an Obama presser word for word into your story lede, get a seat on the plane….
You guys must live a miserable life.
No but most of us support a leech just like you.
That’s why we have no intention of letting you pick a president.
Indeed you PUMA lot support McWar. No more Republican leeches. Obama is by the way playing really well on European tv.
Sure he is. Have you ever been to Europe? There are no PC police over there. They call’em like they see’em.
NoBigotry,
You are a bigot so stop condemning everyone else.
Wa Po says the foreign press can’t ask questions or get interviews. Playing well must mean smiling pics flashing on the screen once in a while… Obama carrying a lunch tray, playing basketball or deplaning.
I’ll pray for you troll
If they have no souls, do prays help?
What is it with these OBOTS claiming to be so educated and then writing so poorly?
“You guys” = more than one life, thus lives.
PUMAHATERS are LOSERS.
Not until recently. You’ll be the punchline. hyuk,hyuk - masser is phat onda cort.
Anyone heard what the Vegas odds are on how many paid fainters the Obama campaign has arranged for to act out in Berlin this week during Bambi’s speech?
Mel,
They faint from the stench.
He said hope and change- whoooo!clunk LOL
I was surprised to read how quick the Iraqi PM gave in to Obama, when Obama is just a PRESUMPTIVE presidential candidate of a political party!
Shame on Obama, for acting like he is already the POTUS! He & his advisers thought that they can fool the global communities, THEY ARE WRONG!!
AMERICA, WAKE-UP !!
For our country, vote Hillary or McCain ‘08 !!!
It’s like a breakthrough to agree that water is wet.
Certainly no other could have helped forge such an agreement, he is THE ONE!
upitty
TOTO is the best nickname BO ever had. and indeed fits the european tour
toto
TOTO
toto
TOTO
I think he should name the dog Toto.
Anyone hear who the band is Axelrod hired to bring people to Hitler’s chosen place to perform before Bambi gives his Berlin speech?
The Average White Band.
LOL
here is one of their hits:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-TSmRvo8QaY
Pick Up the Pieces
Average White Band
The Average White Guilt Band
Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel.
is there NOTHING that Obama can say or do that doesn’t need a comment, a retraction, an explanation, a WORM what Obama REALLY meant caveat……
the Planet is not Chicago.
Yup WORM!
Obama will say anything to get what ever he has to get and then when he does he leaves or say to bad.You should have done your homework.
Obama has not came forward with his birth certificate yet.And the media is not saying nothing about it.He is not american born and still holds Kenya as his.We are in trouble when an unknow is trying to gain the most inportant job.He is going to take out of Iraq to put into another war.We will have three wars now going on.Iraq will again be more again for us because more troops will have to be send there to as well. We will lose more american lives.More fathers-Mother-sister-brothers.
Obama has his own agenda and I really think Bush is in on this one with Nancy Pelosi and Donna Brazile and Dean Howard you guys.
Watch from 6:20. Bush makes it very clear who he’s rooting for this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV53worehV0
if he is, which I wouldn’t rule out, Bush must be possessed by the devil and/or is the reincarnation of Hitler or some other evil ruler. The Republicans released the Cracken…..
Maliki is obviously a racist.
Touche’
The Bastard!
I heard this actually before I read this..and I’m still laughing from when I heard it.
LMAO
WTH is Uhhbama planning now?
he said 8-10 years he is in office today?
well let us lok to Samantha Powers who Uhhbama is so tight with and see what he plans:
Obama has talked a lot about the importance of moving away from electocracy,” she says, trying to move on to more comfortable territory, and suggesting that the way people actually live is more important than the “reification of elections”.
“In terms of how radical the shift will be, I think it’s very hard. There’s going to be a huge foreign service and civil service that he will inherit, senators and congressmen who have already been elected. So I think he is one guy, trying to steer this ship of cacophonous agendas into a new place.”
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2008/03/barack-obama-interview-power
Uhhbama said:
“who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.”
“next eight to 10 years.”…must be a learning curve
eight to ten years. 50 to 57 states. Against telecom immunity, for telecom immunity….
BOBO isn’t known for precision.
Ok I see the light,
I made a YouTube to show I’ve changed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkYca5bIZ7U
I live in my mother’s basement can you tell.
Jake Tapper on Obama’s careless use of words:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/barack-obamas-b.html#comments
Here’s the problem with inexperience:
Another George Bush?
no he plans to eliminate electocracy, they r such a pain, see Powers comments here:
Obama has talked a lot about the importance of moving away from electocracy,” she says, trying to move on to more comfortable territory, and suggesting that the way people actually live is more important than the “reification of elections”.
“In terms of how radical the shift will be, I think it’s very hard. There’s going to be a huge foreign service and civil service that he will inherit, senators and congressmen who have already been elected. So I think he is one guy, trying to steer this ship of cacophonous agendas into a new place.”
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2008/03/barack-obama-interview-power
Hmmmm ….
Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that “the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.
“And it’s important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are.”
The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.
(I’m guessing b.)
From
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/barack-obamas-b.html
It’s kind of like the 57 states thing. He didn’t want to be caught counting on his fingers so he guessed.
Right…He would have to take his socks and shoes off to go higher than 10.
LOL, good one, and good post as usual!
or (c) Barky will be president of our 57 (or 58?) states for ten years.
It’s Barky’s world now, folks. Mundane things like geography, history, facts, actual vote counts, & rules no longer matter.
(?ILL) (?HA)
It’s all in the (race) cards.
Too bad he was so useless on the European Subcommittee he chaired. I think he’s trying to deflect that most telling and damaging criticism.
I think it all depends what is on Axelrod’s cards at a guess…um rrrrrrrrrrrr um
Quick! Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the No Quarter Troll Patrol! Call Maliki and tell him that you are FATIGUED and more than a bit IRRITATED at his failure to get on board the Obama Express!
The time has come to put aside differences and UNIFY!
Stop the hating!
Maliki must be some kind of racist, or worse- a REPUBLICAN~!
Stop the hate!
Hey, you’re stealing my line!
You need to stop the hate, hater!
No OBush 08!
Obama’s Safari:
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May it’s BigFoot!:)
Maybe it’s BigFoot!:)
Sasquatch!! Yeti!!!!
Michelle?
I LOVE when I rile them up.
I love when you rile them up too. I don’t see what the BOBOweenies are getting all fired up about. Maliki backs Bushes egress plan. LOL so does BOBO.
The Fundie’s get into the act:
What would you call the Country, of which Obama becomes the ruler?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8CDN26hOW8
He probably won’t change the name of our country. He’ll just probably CHANGE the letters - drop the vowels, rearrange the consonants or something. Only because he cannot think of anything original all by himself.
NAW NAW NAW (omg I crack myself up channeling Barry’s Uncle Wright)
Noooooooo his ego is much bigger!!!!
It’s more like the size of the combined 57 states of the US of A!
OK so what is the NoQuarter genius plan for ending the war? Is there something wrong with setting a 16-month goal, and working toward that? Does John McCain’s plan of permanent bases and a permanent committment sound like a good thing for America? Do you think the Iraqis like that idea?
Do you honestly think Maliki can promise one candidate or the other anything — he has to please Americans AND the Iraqi public, of COURSE he’s going to backtrack. The Chicago Tribune was wrong to say Maliki “endorsed” the Obama plan. But every poll of Iraqis and every statement from Iraqi politicians says they want us there for only 1-2 more years, maximum. Doesn’t that sound a lot like sixteen months to you?
You people are so pissed about Obama winning and Hillary losing you’re disputing things every Democrat has agreed on for two the three years at least.
Thanks, and have fun doing the GOP’s dirty work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEIi4XKRmM
No, we just don’t want Obama. Every Democrat has not agreed on everything in the last 2-3 years.
We did all agree Bush should be impeached. When the Dems got the majority and Pelosi became Speaker what did she do? Take Impeachment off of the table.
We’re not lemmings. We’re American citizens. Unless you personally know every Democrat in this country you statement is a lie.
That’s “your statement”.
Sounds like a miniumum of 11 billion dollars, to me.
No biggie because I’m not impressed with billions of anything anymore. A trillion as a number is becoming squat these days
Bush probably should be impeached. But then, again, if he was, we would have a President Cheney, which would be no better, and probably much worse.
But what does Pelosi’s stance on impeachment have to do with what I asked about Iraq? Not a thing.
I’ll ask again: what should we do in Iraq? Plan to leave, or come up with excuses to stay? Which candidate is going to focus on withdrawal, and which one has always been committed to war, any war?
These questions aren’t hard.
We already covered that in a post last week “About Those Benchmarks.” Just to let you know there is some objective, and our troops are fighting a worthier cause than “murdering Iraqis for their oil.”
Of course there’s “an objective”: mutual safety, stability, and fiscal responsibility. After 5+ years of war, withdrawal is the best option for all of those. We have long worn out our welcome in that country, something John McCain doesn’t seem to get. To compare Iraq to Korea or Germany makes no sense — there will be no peace with a long-term American troop presence there.
When did I say anything about “murdering Iraqis for their oil”? I absolutely do not believe that is what the troops are doing. The people on this site would be much more credible if they’d actually engage with the words in front of them instead of making things up.
For more detailed explanations, refer to the piece mentioned. Here is the checklist with simple YES and NO answers.
(i) Forming a Constitutional Review Committee and then completing the constitutional review. NO
(ii) Enacting and implementing legislation on de-Ba’athification reform. NO
(iii) Enacting and implementing Oil legislation (i.e., share the wealth). NO
(iv) Enacting and implementing legislation on procedures to form semi-autonomous regions. ON HOLD TILL AFTER 2008
(v) Enacting and implementing legislation establishing an Independent High Electoral Commission, provincial elections law, provincial council authorities, and a date for provincial elections. NO
(vi) Enacting and implementing legislation addressing amnesty. NO
(vii) Enacting and implementing legislation establishing a strong militia disarmament program to ensure that such security forces are accountable only to the central government and loyal to the constitution of Iraq. YES - but the US is doing this with no help from Iraq
(viii) Establishing supporting political, media, economic, and services committees in support of the Baghdad Security Plan. YES
(ix) Providing three trained and ready Iraqi brigades to support Baghdad operations. YES
(x) Providing Iraqi commanders with all authorities to execute this plan and to make tactical and operational decisions in consultation with U.S. Commanders without political intervention to include the authority to pursue all extremists including Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias. YES - but it’s still a US ballgame
(xi) Ensuring that Iraqi Security Forces are providing even-handed enforcement of the law. YES
(xii) Ensuring that, as Prime Minister Maliki was quoted by President Bush as saying, “the Baghdad Security Plan will not provide a safe haven for any outlaws, regardless of [their] sectarian or political affiliation.” YES
(xiii) Reducing the level of sectarian violence in Iraq and eliminating militia control of local security. YES - the surge is working. Congrats to John McCain.
(xiv) Establishing all of the planned joint security stations in neighborhoods across Baghdad. YES - provided benchmarks continue to be met.
(xv) Increasing the number of Iraqi security forces units capable of operating independently. YES
(xvi) Ensuring that the rights of minority political parties in the Iraqi legislature are protected. NO
(xvii) Allocating and spending $10 billion in Iraqi revenues for reconstruction projects, including delivery of essential services, on an equitable basis. YES - money is being sent. NO - it is not making it to the civilian population.
(xviii) Ensuring that Iraq’s political authorities are not undermining or making false accusations against members of the ISF. NO - despite the good intentions of some Iraqis, government corruption still poses a challenge.
Great, this is a national embarrassment in front of the world. The Iraqi Prime Minister has to go out of his way to organize a press release…a public statement, over how he does not endorse Obama? Don’t tell me he actually had to meet with the press and issue a statement in person. EMBARRASSING!
And the stupid Obama-Media ran with the story, of course, without even double checking with the IRAQI PRIME MINISTER’S people.
Horrendous.
Obama dot com Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGhv3YHMxxE
is that the actual scene or BOBO’s recreation for posterity?
Europe’s governments immune to Obama-fever
Read the rest..Source Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL2047833920080720
ahhhh, It’s summer and they don’t have anything beter to do. I’m always skimming the amusement section to see who is coming to town.
Oops! Maliki needs to get on board with this. Send the bus to Iraq.
Bus has a flat, ran over jesse’s fat ass and the spare was eaten by oprah
Is it to much to ask that people stop thinking everything is about them and focus? Is it to much to ask that people stop treating this as a photo op or “scoring points” and “street cred” on national security? This entire trip was bullshit. Do they think we are to fucking stupid to see this shit?
But no. It’s not about our country. It’s about how bad you want Senator Obama to be president. Because going with the way I have been sitting back and just silently watching…he will save the world, end the war, bring world piece, all on day one. It gets harder sitting back and observing as I see some of the most ridiculous, irrational, idiotic reasons for a person to become president. Not once have I read reasons that had anything to do with this country.
It’s enough to just cut off the news, and find a church to go and sit and pray and hope this was a episode of Scare Tactics or Punk’d.
What’s worse is that this is broadcasted live in newspapers etc etc. So we all get a first hand look as the Democratic Party do the unbelievable. Make President Bush leave office with a high approval rating while ensuring No Dems hold a majority. I dont know what many of you are viewing that looks wonderful coming from the Obama campaign. But all I see is a horror show of huge proportions and alot of things playing out that is scaring people shitless, myself included.
Punk’d, in real life, S4H.
I am trying to put on a brave face.
I think we’re being distracted, quite frankly.
It’s all soooooo McGovern.
There are so many trolls here today!
But the answer will always be the same, McCain 2008 if not HRC!!
They must be giving double shots tonight of Cool-aid “Oh Ya”
I love Dane Cook’s Kool Aide skit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1USaPMXpI
But then again. I guess my viewpoint would be different. Its kind of weird when the Iraqi’s are more happy about the possibility of having Senator Obama as president. It kinds of make you fucking pissed the fuck off when your friends and co workers seem to think that THEY, the Iraqi’s are more excited about his presidency than you are. There fucking interviewing these people on what THEY think!
Can you not see anything wrong with this fucking picture? How about we reverse the rolls and send your asses over there and see how it feel watching Iraqi’s be interviewed about YOUR possible president.
And these bloggers have the nerve to state that they are going to use scare tactics against Obama. Are you that fucking stupid? Seriously? Have you ever looked at it from our point of view? How the hell would you look at it if they are asking the locals what THEY think before you? How many soldiers did you see interviewed asking there opinion? Now go back and read how many Iraqi’s they asked.
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I will pass on that above TY…. been there done that got the t-shirt its better with a clear head you see the whole picture…
Hillary08 if not McCain
LOL Kevin
John McCain wants the troops home too. Anyone who’s ever been away in a war zone for an extended period of time …. as McCain has, being a POW in a North Vietnames hellhole for 5 years …. knows how much troops want to come home.
The difference between McCain and Obama is that McCain will only pull troops out of Iraq as fast as the Iraqis can step in to replace them. Now, given the way that things have improved in Iraq over the past 18 months, I think that it is indeed likely that we could have the great bulk of our troops out of Iraq by mid-2010, if not sooner. No doubt that is what Prime Minister Al-Maliki was referring to. But I didnot read his remarks as any kind of endorsement of a fixed timetable, come hell or high water.
But it bears repeating that if the decisions on Iraq had been left up to the likes of Barack Obama. Nancy Peolsi, and Howard Dean, we would have suffered a humiliating Vietnam-like defeat in Iraq rather than the victory we are now poised to claim.
The bottom line is that when it comes to foreign affairs, I trust the judgement of John McCain. I do not trust Barack Obama.
And remember Obama once said he’d leave troops in Iraq until 2013.
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Uppity
Talk Left says the transcript is up here
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/7/20/121244/824
direct link to der spiegel transcript here:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html
Comment by kat in your hat | 2008-07-20 18:12:49
Great, this is a national embarrassment in front of the world. The Iraqi Prime Minister has to go out of his way to organize a press release…a public statement, over how he does not endorse Obama? Don’t tell me he actually had to meet with the press and issue a statement in person. EMBARRASSING!
And the stupid Obama-Media ran with the story, of course, without even double checking with the IRAQI PRIME MINISTER’S people.
Horrendous.
Well it looks like Obambi will have to toss Maliki under that HUGE Obambi bus now too. Unbelievable , Obambi’s narcissistic abilities know no bounds, lol.
Talkleft still reporting Maliki agree’s. Plus they removed the NO Quarter link from their blog roll. WTF
There has been much hay made from the der Spiegel interview with Iraqi PM Maliki. What is clear is that Maliki says two things.
One, Iraq wants to establish a LONG TERM Strategic Treaty with the US, AND continue the EXISTING Security Agreement with the US.
Two, MOST of the coalition troops should be removed sooner rather than later, but that depends on circumstances on the ground.
Maliki says that although the 16 month timeframe proposed by Obama would be right, it is possible that it could change, and “Of course, this is by no means an election endorsement.”
In this interview Maliki shows that Iraq is committed to the proposals expressed by McCain. Troops will be withdrawn as the security situation improves, which has improved during the surge. And, there will be a long term presence by the US for security.
McCain and even Bush along with everyone else on the planet want MOST of the troops removed as soon as possible. But, even the Iraqis do not want the US to retreat from Iraq entirely. Obama on the other hand proposes a complete withdrawal.
As to be expected,, the left wing Press at Der Spiegel, and the US Press that pick up the story, run with “MALIKI ENDORSES OBAMA’S PLAN”, and “MALIKI BACKS OBAMA TROOP PULLOUT PLAN” even though Maliki himself emphasizes he is not endorsing Obama, nor Obama’s plan.
Since the left wing press published Maliki’s supposed endorsement of the Obama plan, Maliki has tried to correct the false and misleading interpretation of what he said. A spokesman for al-Maliki said his remarks “were misunderstood, mistranslated and not conveyed accurately.”
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the possibility of troop withdrawal was based on the continuance of security improvements, echoing statements that the White House made Friday after a meeting between al-Maliki and U.S. President Bush.
Don’t take my word for it. Read the original Der Spiegel transcript below. Maliki clearly says he wants to continue the US Security Agreement, and Troop withdrawal plans are subject to change depending on security circumstances.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html
SPIEGEL: Germany, after World War II, was also liberated from a tyrant by a US-led coalition. That was 63 years ago, and today there are still American military bases and soldiers in Germany. How do you feel about this model?
Maliki: Iraq can learn from Germany’s experiences, but the situation is not truly comparable. Back then Germany waged a war that changed the world. Today, we in Iraq want to establish a timeframe for the withdrawal of international troops — and it should be short. At the same time, we would like to see the establishment of a long-term strategic treaty with the United States, which would govern the basic aspects of our economic and cultural relations. However, I wish to re-emphasize that our security agreement should remain in effect
SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.
More on the Iraqi Withdrawal Position:
No Ringing Endorsement Of Obama’s Plan During Today’s Visit:
Asked specifically if Obama, who has proposed a withdrawal of U.S. combat troops within 16 months, raised the question during the talks, Iraqi spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told reporters: “This issue, we do not discuss …”
In the topic of a withdrawal timetable, al-Dabbagh told reporters, “We are hoping that in 2010 that combat troops will withdraw from Iraq.” But he added that the government did not endorse a fixed date. He also said any withdrawal plan was subject to change if there is a rise in the level of violence.
That is the McCain plan which has not changed since Day One.
We stopped counting the changes to Obama’s plan, but expect another one at any moment.
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