Obama’s Civilian National Security Force
By Charles Lemos on July 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM in Barack Obama
That little bit from Barack Obama’s speech on national service is not in the transcript of his prepared remarks. So just what does Senator Obama mean by this:
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Just prior to those two lines, Obama was talking about something quite different. He goes from talking about increasing the size of the US Foreign Service and opening consulates that have been shuttered (without telling us how he is going to pay for it) and doubling the size of the Peace Corps to the mother of all non-sequitors:
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
What exactly does Senator Obama mean by a “civilian national security force“?
Is he referencing the ATF, FBI, or DEA? Or something new and different say like the Defense of the Revolution Brigades that they have in Cuba and Venezuela where neighbors spy on neighbors? Surely he can’t mean the US Foreign Service and the Peace Corps et al be funded in the billions of dollars. Whatever he is referencing it sounds like a dramatic departure from current practice and current funding. And why did it take the press so long to catch the discrepancy between the speech as delivered and the prepared remarks? Why are the references in the transcript to this deleted or omitted? Should we be worried? He was rather emphatic about it so I doubt that he just got carried away and ad libbed it.
I admit that I do not hang on Obama’s every speech and glean through them with the a fine tooth comb but perhaps I should for the press is not doing its job. It is apparently in the business of unadulterated adoration. If he is proposing something new and different, shouldn’t we be asking questions especially since it sounds rather open-ended and to be frank worrisome for civil liberties.
Here is the full speech on July 2, 2008 in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The omission is just past the 16:45 minute mark:
Here is the transcript of the speech from the Denver Post:
As delivered in Colorado Springs on July 2, 2008.
Not quite but we will get to that at the 16:50 mark of the speech.
In two days, we will celebrate America’s Independence Day. We’ll come together with family and friends to enjoy a day off. Maybe you’ll cook out, watch a parade or take in some fireworks. Hopefully, you’ll get a break from things like politics.
But I’m sure there will be a moment or two, when the fireworks grow quiet or the parade has gone by, when the enormity of the American accomplishment will sink in, along with a deep pride in your place in the story of the United States America. I hope you take that moment to think about what you can do to shape the future of this country we love.
These days, it’s easy for us to get caught thinking that there are two different stories at work in our lives. There is the story of our day-to-day cares and responsibilities – the classes you have to take or the bills you have to pay; the bustle and busyness of what happens in your own life. And then there is the story of what’s happening in the wider world – a story seen in headlines and websites and televised images; a story experienced only through the price you pay at the pump or the extra screening you pass through at the airport.
This is the divide that separates you from the ability to shape your own destiny. So I am asking you – on this 4th of July – to reject that divide, to step into the strong currents of history, and to shape your country’s future. Because your own story and the American story are not separate, they are shared. And they will both be enriched if together, we answer a new call to service to meet the challenges of our new century.
I say this to you as someone who couldn’t be standing here today if not for the service of others, and who wouldn’t be standing here if not for the purpose that service gave my own life.
You see, I spent much of my childhood adrift. My father left my mother and me when I was two. My mother remarried, and we lived in Indonesia for a time. But I was mostly raised in Hawaii by my mom and my grandparents from Kansas. Growing up, I wasn’t always sure who I was, or where I was going.
But during my first two years of college, perhaps because the values my mother had taught me -hard work, honesty, empathy – had resurfaced after a long hibernation; or perhaps because of the example of wonderful teachers and lasting friends, I began to notice a world beyond myself. And by the time I graduated from college, I was possessed with a crazy idea – that I would work at a grassroots level to bring about change.
I wrote letters to every organization in the country I could think of. And one day, a small group of churches on the South Side of Chicago offered me a job working to help neighborhoods that had been devastated by steel plant closings. My mother and grandparents wanted me to go to law school. My friends were applying to jobs on Wall Street. Meanwhile, this organization offered me $12,000 a year plus $2,000 for an old, beat-up car. And I said yes.
I didn’t know a soul in Chicago, and I wasn’t sure what was waiting for me there. I had always been inspired by stories of the Civil Rights movement and JFK’s call to service, but when I got to the South Side, there were no marches, and no soaring speeches. In the shadow of an empty steel plant, there were just a lot of folks who were struggling.
I still remember one of the very first meetings we put together to discuss gang violence with a group of community leaders. We waited and waited for people to show up, and finally, a group of older people walked into the hall. And they sat down. And a little old lady raised her hand and asked, “Is this where the bingo game is?”
It wasn’t easy, but eventually, we made progress. Day by day, block by block, we brought the community together. We registered new voters. We set up after school programs, fought for new jobs, and helped people live lives with more opportunity, and some measure of dignity.
But I also began to realize that I wasn’t just helping other people. Through service, I found a community that embraced me; citizenship that was meaningful; the direction I’d been seeking. Through service, I discovered how my own improbable story fit into the larger story of America.
There is a lesson to be learned from generations who have served – from soldiers and sailors; airmen and Marines; suffragists and freedom riders; teachers and doctors; cops and firefighters. It’s the lesson that in America, each of us is free to seek our own dreams, but we must also serve a common purpose, a higher purpose. When you choose to serve – whether it’s your nation, your community, or simply your neighbor – you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That is why this is a great nation. Because time and again, Americans have been willing to serve on stages both great and small; to draw on the same spirit that launched America’s improbable journey to meet the challenges of each defining moment in our history.
One of those moments came on September 11, 2001. Whether you lived in Manhattan or thousands of miles away in Colorado, you felt the pain and loss of that day not just as an individual, but as an American. You also felt pride – pride in the firefighters who rushed up the stairs while workers rushed down; pride in the police who provided comfort, and the neighbors who lent a hand; pride in your citizenship, and the tattered flag that flew at Ground Zero. That’s why Americans lined up to give blood. That’s why we held vigils and flew flags. That’s why we rallied behind our President. We were ready to step into the strong current of history, and to answer a new call for our country. But the call never came.
Instead of a call to service, we were asked to go shopping. Instead of a call for shared sacrifice, we gave tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans in a time of war for the very first time in our history. Instead of leadership that called us to come together, we got patriotism defined as the property of one party, and used as a political wedge to take us into a war that should have never been authorized and never been waged.
We have lost precious time. Our nation is less secure and less respected in the world. Our energy dependence has risen, and so has the specter of climate change. More of our children have been left behind, and our American Dream risks slipping away. The burden of service has fallen on to the backs of our military – and their families – who have endured tour after tour of duty bravely and brilliantly, even though they haven’t always gotten the care and support they have earned.
When I was thinking about whether or not to seek the presidency, there were voices that counseled me to wait. Why not stay in Washington for a few more years, they said, to master the game. But the fact is, I had been in Washington long enough to know that it needs to change.
I am running for President, right now, because of what Dr. King called the fierce urgency of now. This moment is too important to sit on the sidelines. Our country faces determined enemies abroad, and definitive challenges at home. But I have no doubt that in the face of these odds, people who love their country can change it. That is why I am running for President. That is why I’m determined to reach out – not just to Democrats, but to Independents and Republicans who want to move in a new direction. And that is why I won’t just ask for your vote as a candidate – I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am President of the United States.
This will not be a call issued in one speech or one program – this will be a central cause of my presidency. We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve. And we will direct that service to our most pressing national challenges.
There is no challenge greater than the defense of our nation and our values. The men and women of our military – from Fort Carson to Peterson Air Force base, from the Air Force Academy to the ROTC students here on campus – have signed up at a time when our troops face an ever-increasing load. Fighting a resurgent Taliban. Targeting al Qaeda. Persevering in the deserts and cities of Iraq. Training foreign militaries. Delivering humanitarian relief. In this young century, our military has answered when called, even as that call has come too often. Through their commitment, their capability, and their courage they have done us all proud.
But we need to ease the burden on our troops, while meeting the challenges of the 21st century. That’s why I will call on a new generation of Americans to join our military, and complete the effort to increase our ground forces by 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines.
A call to service must be backed by a sacred trust with anyone who puts on the uniform of the United States. A young person joining our military must know that we’ll only send them into harm’s way when we absolutely must. That we’ll provide them with the equipment needed to complete their mission safely, and deployments that allow adequate time back home. They must see that we’ll care for our military families while they’re deployed, and that we’re providing our veterans with the support, benefits, and opportunity that they have earned when they return home. That’s what I’ve fought for on the Senate Veteran’s Affairs Committee. That’s what I’ll promise as Commander in Chief.
Just as we must value and encourage military service across our society, we must honor and expand other opportunities to serve. Because the future of our nation depends on the soldier at Fort Carson, but it also depends on the teacher in East LA, the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school worker in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa, and the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia. Americans have shown that they want to step up. But we’re not keeping pace with the demand of those who want to serve, or leveraging that commitment to meet national challenges. FDR not only enlisted Americans to create employment, he targeted that service to build our infrastructure and conserve our environment. JFK not only called on a new generation, he made their service a bridge to the developing world, and a bright light of American values in the darkest days of the Cold War.
Today, AmeriCorps – our nation’s network of local, state and national service programs – has 75,000 slots. I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife Michelle once left her job at a law firm to be the founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service. These programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America’s greatest resource – our citizens.
As President, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots, and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer.
We’ll send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods. We’ll enlist veterans to help other vets find jobs and support, and to be there for our military families. And we’ll also grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.
Here is where we need to insert the following:
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set, we’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
And we’ll use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create an online network where Americans can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment, and skill sets; you’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities. This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda, and make their own change from the bottom up.
We also need to invest in ideas that can help us meet our common challenges, because more often than not, the next great social innovation won’t be generated by the government.
The non-profit sector employs 1 in 12 Americans and 115 nonprofits are launched every day. Yet while the federal government invests $7 billion in research and development for the private sector, there is no similar effort to support non-profit innovation. Meanwhile, there are ideas across America – in our inner cities and small towns; from college graduates, to seniors getting ready to retire – that could benefit millions of Americans if they’re given the chance to grow.
As President, I will launch a new Social Investment Fund Network. It’s time to get the grass roots, the foundations, the faith-based organizations, the private sector and the government at the table so that we can learn from our own success stories. We’ll invest in ideas that work; leverage private sector dollars to encourage innovation; and expand successful programs to scale. Take a program like the Harlem Children’s Zone, which helps thousands of kids in New York through after-school activities, mentoring, and family support. We need to make that model work in different cities across America. And just as we support small businesses, I’ll start a new Social Entrepreneur Agency to make sure that small non-profits have strong support from Washington.
Finally, we need to integrate service into education, so that young Americans are called upon and prepared to be active citizens.
Just as we teach math and writing, arts and athletics, we need to teach young Americans to take citizenship seriously. Study after study shows that students who serve do better in school, are more likely to go to college, and more likely to maintain that service as adults. So when I’m President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you’ll have done 17 weeks of service.
We’ll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we’ll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities. At the community level, we’ll develop public-private partnerships so students can serve more outside the classroom.
For college students, I have proposed an annual American Opportunity Tax Credit of $4,000. To receive this credit, we’ll require 100 hours of public service. You invest in America, and America invests in you – that’s how we’re going to make sure that college is affordable for every single American, while preparing our nation to compete in the 21st century.
For our veterans, I was proud to be a strong and early supporter of Jim Webb’s bipartisan GI Bill, so that today’s vets have the same opportunity that my grandfather had under the GI Bill. To marshal their talents in building a new energy economy, I will launch an initiative to give our veterans the training they need to succeed in the Green Jobs of the future. It’s time to end our energy dependence at home so our national security isn’t held hostage to oil and gas from abroad.
And we will not leave out the nearly 2 million young Americans who are out of school and out of work. We’ll enlist them in our Energy Corps, so that disadvantaged young people can find useful work, clean polluted areas, help weatherize homes, and gain skills in a growing industry. And we’ll expand the YouthBuild Program, which puts young Americans to work building affordable housing in America’s poorest communities, giving them valuable skills and a chance to complete a high school education. Because no one should be left out of the American story.
Now I know what the cynics will say. I’ve heard from them all my life.
These are the voices that will tell you – not just what you can’t do – but what you won’t do. Americans won’t come together – our allegiance doesn’t go beyond our political party, region, or congregation. Young Americans won’t serve their country – they’re too selfish, or too lazy. This is the soft sell of the status quo, the voice that tells you to settle because settling isn’t that bad.
That’s not the America that I’ve seen throughout this campaign. I’ve seen young people work, and volunteer, and turn out in record numbers. I’ve met members of our military – like the thousands of soldiers and airmen here in Colorado Springs – who signed up to serve in the wake of 9/11. I’ve met community workers who want to care for our kids; students who want to end the genocide in Darfur; businesses that want to expand opportunity; farmers who want to help free us from the tyranny of oil; seniors searching for ways to give back; and people of every age, race, and religion who want to come together to renew the American spirit.
Renewing that spirit starts with service. Make no mistake: our destiny as Americans is tied up with one another. If we are less respected in the world, then you will be less safe. If we keep paying dictators for foreign oil, gas prices are going to keep rising, and so are the oceans. If we can’t give all of our kids a world-class education, then our economy is going to fall behind.
And that’s how it should be. That’s the bet our Founding Fathers were making all of those years ago – that our individual destinies could be tied together in the common destiny of democracy; that government depends not just on the consent of the governed, but on the service of citizens. That’s what history calls us to do. Because loving your country shouldn’t just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July. Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, and our country will be stronger.
We need your service, right now, at this moment – our moment – in history. I’m not going to tell you what your role should be; that’s for you to discover. But I am going to ask you to play your part; ask you to stand up; ask you to put your foot firmly into the current of history. I am asking you to change history’s course. And if I have the fortune to be your President, decades from now – when the memory of this or that policy has faded, and when the words that we will speak in the next few years are long forgotten – I hope you remember this as a moment when your own story and the American story came together, and – in the words of Dr. King – the arch of history bent once more towards justice.
I do not trust Barack Obama in the least. And this only adds to my mistrust. I have said it before but I will say it again, Barack Obama is the political reincarnation of Richard Nixon. I might add that if it had been John McCain who had made this proposal or slip of the tongue, the press would have been all over it. Why does Obama get a pass from the media?
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I can’t watch his speeches. He makes my skin crawl.
Are you lot just thick or just being deliberately ignorant so that you can wind yourselves up. The CIA, the FBI, etc are CIVILIAN National Security Forces because they are NOT in the Military.
NoBigotry:
Have you told Obama this?
He apparently doesn’t know this because he did not mention them in his speech as part of his well-funded CIVILIAN National Security Force.
OR, he wants to be so ambiguous about his statements so he can continue to flip-flop.
Which is NoBigotry?
>>>>he wants to be so ambiguous about his statements so he can continue to flip-flop.
Bingo!!
Well unless you are very poorly educated it makes perfect sense. You cannot use only the military for your national security, you need a well run security service. So you can take the tin foil hats off now.
To paraphrase Ben Franklin
A Fool and his freedom are soon parted
The reason we have the right to bear arms in the constitution, to safeguard against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The government could be a domestic enemy, as well as others, if it tries to disarm us. We will then be helpless. Believe this, only the government has the right to take your rights. So safeguard them as you do your family, with your life.
im sure thats what the german people had to say about the formation of the sd ,ss , lift your rock and go back to troll land,
We already have one. We call it the FBI.
Yes but this agency will enforce hate crime legislation, Not voting for Obama
give me a break. that is not what he was talking a bout, he was talking about his own version of the republican guard
ahhh NoBigotry is back..another troll.. with no military service to this nation and with no knowledge of American or World History..he doesn’t know that this was exactly how Hilter took over Germany..he has no history of what occured and how our nation has been preserved and who and how so many fought for his rights to even have a computer, let alone use one.. he sits in his basement and posts the Obama talking points and his momma lets him up once in a while for potty breaks..
that is the gist of NOBIGOTRY..just like the bushbots and sheeple of old..run by the same people who run “THE OCTOPUS”..AND NEW WORLD ORDER FOLKS….THEY NEED AND COUNT ON IGNUTS AND IDIOTS, to do their propaganda..but this time ..it won’t work..
NObama..
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Hey NObig;
Well unless you are very poorly educated it makes perfect sense.
Now, I have seen bigotry from BO, from you, and called a racist this year, for the first time in my life.
You can not understand what you refuse to observe. It has nothing to do with the level of education one has. So if you have a point to make, make it. If not, phone a friend, ’cause you are not going to have a chance to change anything.
Go here and sign up. They are looking for you.
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The arms of our government are contracted @ 80% of staff, who do not report to anything but the bottom line of the very companies like Blackwater, who BO supports.
There were two basic issues for BO. Impeachment and FISA. He sold us out on both. What in earth do think will happen next year? The policies that where set in motion 30 years ago are reaching critical mass and all you can do is insult people simply for being observant and questioning what is being said and if the person saying it is FULL of SHIT.
What ever sanctuary you seek none will be granted to you.
Since you have not had para-military forces enter you house without a warrant, slam you to the floor with an M-16 pointed at your head, IN THIS COUNTRY, I would not expect you to comprehend how fragile the condition of our society is.
If BO wants to fuck around with saying that Iraq was a distraction from Afghanistan, then he is idiot of the highest magnitude. It was a violation of the U.S. Constitution, and BO thinks impeachment is a “never ending circus”. Which is exactly what I would call BO, being concerned only with his image and NOT the well being of US Foreign policy.
The fool doesn’t even know the first thing about what language Afghans speak, never mind the RICH history of that part of the world being at the cross roads of conflict through out history. Try getting a post card from Peshawar in 1987 and tell me what F*ck BO is gonna do?
Who do you think is going to do the “reconstruction” projects in Afghanistan? Afghans? Karzi is a former oil exec and the reason we gave a shit about them is the oil pipelines out of the Stans and not one shit about the people there. Charlie Wilson was right when he said we had no end game and could not close the deal.Otherwise the US would have put Osama’s lights out years ago.
The last time BO interfered with the internal governance of a foreign nation, people got dead. Now he, with no experience or understanding of what the fuck is going on, pronounces Afghanistan “precarious”.
Please tell me what judgment BO is displaying by opening his pie hole. He is offering Aid and comfort to the forces shooting at AMERICAN forces by saying this. AND FOR WHAT?
We have a well run national security force. Several of them as a matter of fact. They are called by such names as: The F.B.I. The U.S. Marshall’s Office, The D.E.A. and the A.T.F. The Secret Service and The Department of Homeland Security, Just to name a few.
So WHY does Obama always think he needs to expand the size of our government? Only one reason I can think of that comes to mind and that is: He has plans for this country that he feels will cause a civil uprising. His plans may be illegal in one or many ways and he does not believe/trust (and rightfully so) that the normal military or any current federal law enforcement will back him if he comitts act(s) that are considered treason and must be removed from office with force.
You tell me why else would he want his own branch of personal protection when he is probably the best protected person in the world at this time?
then why was that portion of the speech scrubbed?
You can watch the video here.
We meet again NoBigotry, this is the day I have put aside for praying for you, you the troll.
With deepeth love and light I send forth to you a happy day and that the sun shines where your mind takes you. Bless you.
If we have the CIA & FBI why do we need another civilian military force? If it is not a big deal, why omit the statement in the text? I’ll tell you why. Because it is downright creepy! Nazi Germany had a civilian military force, it was called the SS, once they had been built up and their “leader” gained enough power they ran over people’s liberties. No thanks Obarf, I’m not interested in your own personal version of the SS with Rev. Wright as it’s high commander. Creepy.
Sounds like Obama’s talking about a mercenary force of civilians like BLACKWATER, I think Obama is a big fan.
Exactly. What do you want to bet it will be all black and recruited from various street gangs, just like Hitler’s Brown Shirts? This guy must be defeated.
Disagree.
The CIA isn’t even supposed to operate within the U.S. and certainly isn’t a “civilian security force” but a foreign intelligence organization.
ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Fire Arms), those “Revenuers” from the Prohibition era have been turned into another militarisque group (they were at Ruby Ridge and the Branch Davidian).
The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) enforces federal criminal laws across state borders; kidnapping victims and gangsters were their major jobs pre-9/11.
Federal Marshals, which you forgot to mention, are a part of the Justice Department and are the law officers of the federal courts.
The Secret Service guards our elected officials and has responsibility for protecting the financial infrastructure and payment system of the U.S. – such as catching counterfieters.
So, you see, the security of the United States is in many different hands already. The only thing I see left out is a “security force” to insure that the People stay in those designated “free speech zones” that Bush created for us and they are still rather primitive containment centers.
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I’d like to hear this clowns excuse for his flip flop.
Obama did not “win” the nomination. Neither he, nor Hillary won enough pledged delegates.
Hillary did win the popular vote.
In this video Super Delegate Don says the Supers should vote for the Popular Vote Candidate.
every time i look at him and his buddies like pelosi reid gore and kennedy, i see horns coming out of their heads…
by the way, Michelle made a speech about this markist control…HE WILL REQUIRE YOU TO WORK! IF YOU DONT WORK YOU WILL GO TO JAIL, JUST LIKE RUSSIAN AND COMMUNIST COUNTRYS DO…NOT TO MENTION IF YOU SPEEK IN GROUPS OF MORE THAN 3 YOU GO TO JAIL…KEEP VOTING DEMOCRATICS…I THINK DEMONCRATS IS MORE FITTING
In interviews, Obama, has said we need “a more modern State Department and ‘civilian national security force’ that could ‘deploy teams that combine agricultural specialists and engineers’ and linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military.”
He’s talking about the State Department and other non-military national security actors.
If you paranoids want to make domestics “death camps” and stormtroopers out of that, feel free. I understand that feeling threatened is a validation for you, and goes well with the “angry kitten” icons and T-shirts.
Party on, PUMA.
Who let you out of the asylum? Get back in there, eunuch!
So, The One who needs an army of 300 advisors in a primary
is already taking out the State Dept., FBI and Homeland Security?
This from the lazy ass who never convened a single subcommittee meeting re: Afghanistan and NATO?
This from the crook who took payola from a public corruption convicted felon for the mansion he and his hate-filled wife couldn’t afford despite being handed every possible opportunity on a silver platter?
This from Mr. & Mrs. Let The People Freeze?!
Did you think they thought they could take your stuff via mental telepathy? The liberating in Black Liberation Theology is your personal property and liberties.
Have you seen Farakhan’s goons? Don’t you just love them?
But at least Michelle got her Tiffany earrings during the primary.
What is he talking about sending professionals out with the military? In the U. S.? What?
If this is WORM (what obama really meant), then why is it scrubbed from the transcript? — Can we get a WORM on this issue?
Yeah dork. Hitler also said he wanted peace, and the SS assisted the army. Go read up on history or you are destined to repeat it, you uneducated obot. Again, if it is harmless why scrub it?
Because it’s downright creepy.
He was talking about having them to keep the peace NOT for tech support. I guess since the whole thing is scrubed you lie a bout all you want. HE SAID TO KEEP THE PEACE what does that sound to you
That’s why we have law enforcement TO KEEP THE PEACE. That’s why we have the NATIONAL GUARD to assist in times of National Disaster. We don’t need civilians, with no rules or oversight, keeping the peace. That’s what Blackwater does.
We don’t a larger, better funded, version of Blackwater.
That’s “we don’t need”.
Is Obama talking about West Virginia?
You don’t deploy teams of agricultural specialists, engineers and linguists as a “security force” unless you are pattering your security force after Russia.
And where is Obama sending this super “security force” in the USA that is as dangerous as the areas we send our military to?
We have embassies and military to guard our diplomats in foreign locales so what is he talking about?
You obviously have insight into his thinking so you tell us what he’s planning because the way we see it he’s either going to begin WWIII and is creating an elite “security force” for conquest or he has some very undemocratic plans for We the People.
His words evoke images of armed farmers enforcing “rules” in foreign languages so clarify it for us, who does does he plan to “pacify” with this bi-lingual “security force”?
Masters of Propaganda or bad Branding Problems? Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Obama?
ok that creeps me out a bit
I’m glad America is so vast and large it would be impossible
you’d need a civilian army so large it would bust the planet!
jmo
still creepy
I hate peeping tom types
Dawnelle — this is why Obama recruits the Youth. He wants a draft but he also wants every young people to serve in some capacity. With young people not being able to find jobs — spying on their neighbors might be up their alley.
Just like the Hitler Youth programs in Germany.
Control the Youth and you have the country.
“just as well-funded.”,,, I keep saying to the bots. Where do you want your taxes to increase to pay for this. Since our military now costs in the neighbourhood of 1/2 trillion dollars per year with a per capita cost of $1,348.45, Check link for per capita cost for your state.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/mil_cos_of_the_mil_percap-military-cost-per-capita
WTF!!! It is bad enough he says this kind of crap, but then they actually go and scrub it, knowing full well that it is crap that SHOULD be scrubbed!
And Dems STILL support him?
Someone who *adlibs* that “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” should not be HANDED the presidency…
Who is in charge of transcribing Obama’s speeches??
It’s very Nazi!
But Obama and the media have been concealing damaging info about him from the gitgo.
ONE of his mentors is russian, he is close with soros..so is pelosi and reid and gore and kennedy..the list is endless..keep voting demoncrats in…
Remain calm! All is well!
The light blue helmets and brown shirts will soothe any anxiety our citizens have!
Mr. Murder — and if we can’t soothe you — ve have vays of making you talk.
Yeah…I don’t really get what he means by a civilian national security force…?
Komsomols? Young Pioneers? Spetznatz? Winnie Mandela Football Club? Patrice Lumumba University Marching and Chowder Society? Legion Etrangere?
The Republican Guard, remember that
He is something worse than a reincarnation of Nixon. Hitler’s Nazi Germany comes to mind.
I can see his kids army of brown shirts patrolling my neighborhood with brown kool aid is their plastic cups to match their brown shirts…UGGGGGGGGGG
Everybody sing along now…
So tonite I’m gonna party like it’s nineteen thirty three…
Good one!! But True
Which government building will be torched to simulate the Reichstag fire?
I vote for the Library of Congress. They love to burn books.
grail guardian — they don’t need to burn books — nobody reads anymore.
the smarter you are the more dangerous to him
Just imagine a Nation of Islam-influenced civilian defense corps.
This is an Air Raid Drill. I KILL YOU!!!
Fred C. Dobbs, first they will be returning us to Prohibition, and busting all the liqueur bottles like they did in Oakland.
Do you really want a President for this country that doesn’t know how many States we have, It’s not 57, but can actually, not recite but sing the Evening Prayers for Muslims?? Obama claims he has NEVER BEEN A MUSLIM but he can SING Evening Prayers? I used to be a Catholic and still remember a few prayers BECAUSE I USED TO BE ONE.
Wow they where teaching Muslim prayers in the “Catholic” school he attended. This guy is a piece of work. And if we elect this guy it will be the nations fault. It takes 2 minutes on Goolge to figure out this guy is about.
Are these bots that lazy or just blind?
In their case it would be BROWN SKIRTS.
Watch out for the BROWN SKIRTS!!!
Remember Obama sat in a church for 20 years which preached Black Liberation Theology.
He didn’t vote YES on FISA for nothing. He’s got Nixon’s spying attitude. He is a Narcissist and doesn’t want dissention. His “civilian” idea is highly reminiscent of McCarthy. Look at his followers, the ways in which they stalk us online. What makes you think that this isn’t what he has in mind in real life? The atmosphere he is describing is ripe for the snatching away of democracy completely.
I do not trust this man with my country folks. Anyone with an adult mind can see what he is. I don’t trust him with my life. And I DEFINTELY don’t trust him with my freedom or my rights as a woman. His plans are deliberately general, we never get any real specifics out of this guy. His plan for America is a mystery and his general remarks, affiliations and associations are huge red flags. Only the naive and very young cannot see it. And his radical friends not only see it, but love it.
Everything you feared about George W Bush is amplified in the personna of Barack Obama. He may say one thing (and even that changes) but his intent is NEVER fully revealed in detail.
I agree completely! He is very dangerous to our lives and liberties. The fact is he is telling us, although in a veiled and/or general way, what he is planning for us. He isn’t really trying to hide it. That audacity (both meanings – boldness and lack of respect) should terrify everyone in this country, and in the world.
This Civilian Police Force and his proposed amplification of Bush’s Faith Based Initiatives are two of BO’s very scary tidbits thrown out to us.
Obama is going to bring this country down and hand it to a faction he favors…and that ain’t American citizens! His ties to radicals, anti-white racists, flag stomping militants foreign (read Middle East) contributors has nothing good for democracy in mind.
DO NOT LET THIS MAN AND HIS MINIONS ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE! For once, American Press, try to step out of your myopia and your narrowminded worship of the boy king. Your rights are going to be taken as surely as mine will be. You ‘created’ this thing, and now you need to clean it up!
Not just Nixon – Zbig (tired of tying all those consonants) is Obama’s National Security Advisor. Zbig and O’boy are big on Marxist style totalitarian control.
Reverend Wright – Black Liberation Theology (Marxism)
William Ayers – Organizing the Youth for Mao Marxism
The road Obama is laying points to total control and submission to his will.
All dissent must be crushed!!!
I wouldn’t trust the c********r with the change from a $20 bill after a Beer Run.
Long live the Second Amendment.
Women demand control of their bodies…and rightly so.
Only FREE men and women own guns.
:::
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” –Thomas Jefferson
I agree with that in principle, but it does not sound like Jefferson. Can you cite a source for this quote?
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Laws_that_forbid_the_carrying_of_arms
Thanks, TK. I just pulled it out of my PoliSci notebook from 1968 forgot the exact Source document.
No, I never throw ANYTHING away…
Uppity — The New Yorker people were not allowed aboard his plane. Obama is punishing them for their cover and now he is furious at the negative coverage his wife is getting.
Remember how the left was in rage a bout FISA and all the concern about our freedoms, now he is saying all that crap and not a beep. Any suggestion on what is going on. I know there is a coup some where but what the hell……..
Well, a well regulated militia, bearing arms, and all that…
can we wear black berets?
as long as they’re NOT green
ANd make yourself a target?
The time for your adversary to realize that you are armed is when he sees the muzzle flash of the round that you put into him…not before.
Fred, I am happy for your support for Hillary, and opposition to Obama, but you are starting to sound a little outawack dude.
Naw Johnny at Work, Fred C. Dobbs is trained.
Obama’s paid bloggers, hackers and scrubbers are doing such a fantastic job of shutting down any online opposition, maybe he wants to bring his bots out into the real world as an organized militia to enforce Obamaspeak/Obamathink for the Chosen One. As with Party unity, national security depends on national unity and uniformity of thought.
After receiving a hailstorm of criticism for considering Brandenburg Gate for a public speech, as well as official German dissuasion, Barack Obama moved the venue to the Siegessäule monument. Obama will speak about “historic” US-German relations, but once again, Obama’s own grasp of history has been proven deficient. Not only does the site contain a monument to Prussian victories over other American allies in Europe, its placement was decided by Adolf Hitler — in order to impress crowds in his idealized version of Berlin called Germania:
Still, even as the issue of his speech’s location has now been settled, a number of politicians in Berlin are still dissatisfied with the site. The Siegessäule — or Victory Column — was erected in memory of Prussia’s victories over Denmark (1864), Austria (1866) and France (1870/71). The column originally stood in front of the Reichstag, Germany’s parliament building, but was moved by Adolf Hitler to its current location in 1939 to make way for his planned transformation of Berlin into the Nazi capital “Germania.”
“The Siegessäule in Berlin was moved to where it is now by Adolf Hitler. He saw it as a symbol of German superiority and of the victorious wars against Denmark, Austria and France,” the deputy leader of the Free Democrats, Rainer Brüderle, told Bild am Sonntag. He raised the question as to “whether Barack Obama was advised correctly in his choice of the Siegessäule as the site to hold a speech on his vision for a more cooperative world.”
Andreas Schockenhoff of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats said, “the Siegessäule in Berlin is dedicated to a victory over neighbors who are today our European friends and allies. It is a problematic symbol.”
Hitler didn’t just move the monument to its more central location. He had a taller column built for it as well, to emphasize its message of German military domination over Europe. He saw it as a message to Germans of their destiny — as well as to other Europeans as their destiny as well. It was never meant as a symbol of peaceful, multicultural co-existence.
Team Obama has outdone themselves on symbolism with this choice. They’ve managed to make their hosts uncomfortable for a second time with their choice of rallying point, and perhaps more so this time. If one wanted to talk peace, what worse location could one choose than Adolf Hitler’s favorite monument to militaristic domination? One has to wonder how France, Denmark, and Austria will feel about Obama rallying German masses under the Siegessäule. Deja vu?
Obama could be excused for his gaffe, except for two reasons. His team certainly understood the historical weight that the Brandenburg Gate would have lent his event, so why didn’t they bother to ask the Germans about the Siegessäule? Quite obviously, the Germans understand the meaning and subtext of the monument, and most of them wonder why Obama does not. Maybe this is a better example of clueless Americans traveling abroad than those who can only say Merci, beaucoup.
The more basic question is why Obama feels the need to conduct a campaign event among Germans. Meeting with foreign leaders makes sense for a man with no foreign policy experience whatsoever, but that doesn’t require massive rallies among people who aren’t voting in this election. In his rush to look impressive for no one’s purposes but his own, Obama has made himself look ignorant and arrogant all over again.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/20/obama-flunks-history-again/
Although Germany today is not anything like Nazi Germany of history, his choice may be symbolic. I definately think his choice of Siegessäule is symbolic. He is constantly sending messages. It is like a game for him – see how long it takes for people to catch on. If they don’t – great. If they do – then it becomes a ‘gaffe’. I don’t think so.
I got it.
I also get that Team Obama closely resembles a monkey trying to f**k a football.
Sounds like the perfect symbol to me. Obama wants to be the reincarnation of Der Fuhrer.
What is it going to take for people to actually get what is going on here? Ach der liebe!
grail guardian — people get it — this is why the media is trying so hard to sell more positive propaganda about Obama. They know this dog won’t hunt.
I had the bizarre idea that civilian security was the business of what we low-information types call law enforcement.
The Messiah’s Civilian National Security Force, a.k.a. the American version of the GESTAPO and KGB.
How do you spell D R A F T?
I am thinking along the same lines. If he is elected, he will reinstitute the draft. He will give those subject to the draft (and heaven only knows who that will be), an option to perform public service in one of his new programs or his civilian security force. I tend to think this way because of videos in which his wife, Michelle, talks about the “sacrifices” he will not ask, but expect or demand from citizens.
We fat, spoiled, whining Americans have to put in our place. Afterall, billions of others around the world don’t enjoy a fraction of the blessings we have.
My feelings about an Obama presidency are absolutely ominous.
SUPERDELEGATES WAKE UP!!
Hillary is a clear alternative. In her campaign speeches, she said over and over again, we are Americans; we can solve any problem we put our minds to solving. The whole tone is different, the whole approach is different, and there are light-years of difference in character between Obama and Clinton.
SUPERDELEGATES WAKE UP!!
Draft a large number of…uh, Urban Athletes and the companies that make Double Deuces (22″ wheels), loud car stereos, the mokes who cook up crack cocaine in the ‘Hood and ALL the UAW members who work on the line hammering together Escalades will be plumb-ass out of work…
Or, do you think he’s just going to conscript peckerwoods?
It’s kind of like midnight basketball with guns!
don’t kid yourself, they already have guns.
But, Obama wants them to have BIGGER and more powerful guns.
Remember Reagan’s Plan to Eliminate Unemployment in the Inner Citiies?
Expand the NBA to 5,000 teams!
How is Obama going to pay another 600 Bill for this new civilian security force which our youth will administer. It will be on the backs of the old. As Obama told a group of young people a few months back — I can’t worry about old people have they have had time.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution covers this issue already.
Isn’t this the purpose for the National Guard? While some argue the militia mentioned in the Second Amendment are separate from the National Guard, the purpose for the National Guard, as created under the Dick Act, was to help states in times of emergencies and to protect the country as a whole in time of federal emergencies.
So what other type of civilian national force is Obama referring to?
Militias knocking on our doors in the middle of the night to do Obama’s political dirty work like his cyberspace supporters are threatening many of us now?
I think it would be like the Hitler Youth, they could all get uniforms and inform on their parents, neighbors and friends, they will keep a eye on the non-believers and we could all live in fear, just like in Germany. I think that is why Obama wants to go there, he admires the mind-control Hitler was able to perfect.
The page is going all weird on me and I can’t see if a video has been posted. Here it is anyway:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=igDoHZ0hVUY
dang you people are soooo fast!!! Brava!
you’re all like wabbits!
quite prolific (but I’ve said that before) sorry!
Blackwater.
Obama is more like a republican than a Democrat. He’s also in favor of privatizing social secirity.
Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Research his backers, you’ll find the plans. Obama does not have enough experience to figure stuff out for himself- he ‘borrows’ words and he ‘borrows’ policies.
Many of us can see through him, why can’t the bots??
>>> Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing
More like a hyena.
Maybe BO is going to appoint the Black Panthers for America’s security.
shudder
vonay — thats what I was wondering. Also will Obama pay for this new program on the backs of Seniors?
Obama believes we have too many elections and that it confuses people.
THE LARRY SINCLAIR SITE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED. THE LATES POST DEALT WITH A REQUEST FOR POLICE RECORDS ON THE DONALD YOUNG MURDER.
THE LONG ARM OF OBAMA HAS STRUCK AGAIN.
I do not push stuff on Sinclair — it’s just hard to know how reliable the info is.
BUT: I was reading up on Ayers, and found that in addition to terrorism, Billy Ayers was pushing Free Love. And not just in with the opposite sex. Billy is quoted in his book as having many Sexual Partners, including his best Male friends.
So Obama’s terroist pal is also a Butt Buddy, which increases the plausability that the O’boy is a Butt Buddy.
Apologies to Gay’s – I really have noting against you, and have been proud to have befriended many, some of whom died from aids.
What I do have a problem with is the seediness, drug use, cover up, and possible murder.
Yes this should be dug into. Some of the pieces fit Obama’s history, Drug use, and now his buddy Ayers.
Billy Ayres, Booty Bandito!
Sinclair was asking a valid question and posted a copy of Young’s death certificate before the Messiah’s Stormtroopers shut him down again.
“Jeremiah Wright announced Donald Young’s (Trinity Chu8rch’s openly gay choir conductor and presumed gay lover of Obama) death at either the 7:30 AM or 11:00 AM Service. Based on the Certified copy of Chicago Death Certificate on Donald Young, Young was “found shot at 7:30 am,” but was not pronounced dead in his apartment from multiple gunshot wounds by Medical Examiner until 12:10 PM, Sunday December 23, 2007.
How did Jeremiah Wright already know Donald Young was dead? Who told him?”
Below is the Chicago Television News report on the murder of Trinity United Christian Church Choir Director and openly gay lover of presumptive Democratic Presidential Nominee Barack Obama.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5854125
Good question Joe.
How did Jeremiah Wright already know Donald Young was dead? Who told him?”
Oh, Charles… you’re so cute when you’re deliberately obtuse! I really hope you have tenure.
OK the formatting at NoQuarter has been messed up since last night – anyone else seeing this?
YEP
dang glad to see it’s NOT just me
I’ve been redoing all my settings. DUR! Ok not me. hehee!
Yes, all the videos are in a mode I can no longer view them, THey have a red x on them, and I can’t open them
I can’t view the images up top all of the sudden, but I would like to suggest one:
http://tinyurl.com/5gtodj
ROFLAO!
LOL…..(I think )
That was funny!!
<blockquoteI can’t view the images up top all of the sudden, but I would like to suggest one:
http://tinyurl.com/5gtodj
A frightening image indeed. Are these thugs at work here?
I think that perhaps he is looking to recreate a very successful German civilian national defense corps. They called them the Brown Shirts.
Obama is a racist – anti american – know nothing.
The DNC that selected him should be investigated and the reasons that he was selected should be made public.
I have never been a republican but I do not think they would claim him. I have never felt that republicans do no love this country. Now I am not so sure of the DNC.
The PUMA PARTY should be so proud to be the party that is standing up for America.
obama must never be allowed near the white house our country’s freedom is at stake.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
Con Law Senator/Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama wants to create a civilian National Security force. I’m not sure the Senator, who is a constitutional law scholar, understands the US Constitution. We already have a civilian National Security force. He can read all about it in the amendments to the US Constitution. Specifically the Second Amendment.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Militia is the US National Security force and it consists of all the able bodied persons who are armed and of a certain age group (I think it is all those people between the ages of 18 to 45 – but I need to look it up) by act of Congress. The people of the US are already empowered to defend their country. All that is required is that they visit their local gun store (except in Washington DC and a few other major cities – Chicago, the Senator’s home town comes to mind) and get armed.Don’t get me wrong. I think this is a good idea. It is just that the Senator is 200+ years late to the party. I wonder if he slept through his Constitutional Law classes.
He understands how to spit on it.
Only a fool would buy a gun via the prescribed legal route, or with a credit card.
And only a TRUE moron would advise the government that he owns one and seek a carry permit.
Here’s my thinking:
You, due to incredibly bad luck or downright stupidity have to result to deadly force.
Hopefully, someone taught you not to point a gun at anything you don’t intend to kill, and, if you must shoot someone, continue to fire until the gun stops going BOOM and goes CLICK CLICK.
You puke. You crap your pants. You’re SORRY!You want your Mommy!
Now the local Gestapo arrive and, viewing the Deceased (or nearly so), ask you, “Where’d you get the gun, Citizen?”
You look the donut-muncher dead in the eye, point at the meat puppet on the deck and say, “He/She brought it.”
If there’s no paper trail from you to the gun, that case will close pretty quickly.
If, on the other hand, you have registered for Handgun Training for a CCW permit, expect to spend $50-100K for your criminal case, and see a long, sorry-ass gang of scumbags who are ALL the illegitimate children, paroled siblings, sainted mother, grieving Granny and bearded, sandal- and earring-wearing “guidance counselor” from Commie Martyrs High School, each and every one swearing that, as sure as the Resurrection, that dead piece of shit was up for a Rhodes scholarship.
And your Homeowners’ insurance?
Those pissants will flick you off the porch faster than a dead Easter chick. The Good Hands people will teach you about getting, “fisted.”
Oh, and before you start that, “Someone told ME…” horseshit, unless that Someone signed JD after his name and was admitted to practice in YOUR state of residence, that twelfth-hand Urban Legend opinion is about as relevant as the Morning dump my tomcat took on May 4th, 2004.
FYI, because I must, mandatorily, reequalify with several weapons bi-annually with Military Sealift Command as a condition of my Employment with a DoD contractor, AND take annual Refresher training in The Use of Deadly Force, my lawyer and estate planning guy advised me to carry a total of $500,000 Excess Lines Liability, minimum.
I actually carry $1,250,000 total, three carriers. I write off the expense on April 15th.
“Send lawyers, guns and money;
The shit has hit the fan!” – Warren Zevon
I love that song.
Somebody would get a CCW permit and register the gun
if he/she wanted to carry it concealed on his or her person or in a vehicle,
but your other points are sage as always.
Helen, I am a defecting Republican and I agree with you.
I could be very happy with HC – never, never Obama.
What’s going on with these anit-Obama websites?
Another matter, after President Clinton time, the democrate party always find a way to lose. Democrat has majority in both houses and they sliding away to lose again. The speaker of the house does not understand the common person, she stands on a hollow principle. She does not get it.
Sorry, does any of the democrat talking head on TV believe what they claimed Sen. Will do as President?
It is funny watching them talk.
Please, let take back our democratic party. the sooner the better.
Got a call from an Obama fundraiser today.
Very nice young man, I explained that Obama needs to prove to me that he’ll obligate traditional democratic policy to get my vote.
We’ll see if he changes.
With all due respect, Obambi has had plenty of opportunity to prove where he stands and it isn’t with traditional democratic policies or with the traditional democratic voter. Even if he now says this is where he stands I wouldn’t believe it as far as I could throw him.
The polls are making the Dems and the DNC real nerous…The polls are showing signs of the greatest movement since the sixties that movement is being talked about around the world it’s called PUMA
Fred — this is making Democrats very nervous. One week they are inclusive, the next week should get over it, the next we are all Republican operatives, now we are immature and frustrating. The Democratic Party refuses to see that you can’t fool all the people all the time. Did they try to embarrass the Reagan Democrats to vote for Carter? I have never seen anything like this in my life. This is my vote and I will vote for McCain.
nervous…..Coward Dean and Dizzy Brazille
Formatting was OK using Firefox on old system ( Firefox 3.0 (iirc)+ Win 2000) earlier this AM. Switched to laptop (Firefox 3.0 + Win XP) and it is screwed up. Changed over to Explorer + Win XP and formatting is OK.
yea I’ll just switch over to my stand by lap top
(cough) I remember a day when that MIGHT have been possible
I’m using Firefox 2.0.0.16 and WinXP SP3, and the formatting problem only shows up on this post (and it started on the home page when this article was posted). All other threads are displaying as expected.
This is off topic, but I couldn’t get it to come up on the birth certificate thread. I read an article in a local paper about pro bono lawyers banding together to help people save their homes from foreclosure. Maybe this could work for us to demand disclosure of records on Obama? Here is the website that they posted. http://floridaprobono.org
Larry Sinclair’s site has been closed down. It says “This account has been suspended.” I am worried and concerned for his safety. The more attempts that are made to shut him up, the more convinced I am that he is telling the truth. Does any one know what the story is over there?
Go over to Citizen Wells’ blog for the latest Larry Sinclair postings:
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/
CALLING POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJORS —
WE NEED REMEDIAL INSTRUCTION. Distinguish between law enforcement and security agencies and explain what is already in place and what are the controls.
PLEASE??
Mostly it’s how they are funded, what their charter says, which laws apply and what their jurisdiction is (that is whether they are federal, state, local or private).
The CIA – originally OSS during WWII – is not allowed to spy domestically.
That leaves the FBI, Treasury Dept., ATF, Secret Service, DEA, some military agencies, Center for Disease Control, U.S. Marshalls – primarily used to transport prisoners and for courthouse security and Homeland Security as the primary federal agencies, which are federally funded.
Next you have the Coast Guard and National Guard.
Then you have the various state’s highway patrols or law enforcement agency and Attorney General’s Office.
County Sheriffs Deputies.
Municipalities and smaller governmental units have policing agencies as well.
There are private corporate groups that may contract with the government like Black Water or office parks and homes associations.
Finally there is airport security…
Some local agencies get federal grants from for example the DEA for enforcing drug offenses. Many agencies work together.
The LAST thing that we need is another agency.
Homeland Security was created in part to coordinate the efforts of the existing mutiple agencies after the huge embarassment of 9/11 when the communication problems were exposed.
Oblowme could NEVER get security clearance to work for Homeland Security.
Since working isn’t his thing – lucky for him.
Let’s hope our PUMA movement doesn’t have to go Underground to continue protecting our Democracy against these Brown Shirts. PUMA
maidyalook — Hi ya — I hope PUMA can continue above ground. Its a very American Group and very mainstream I fear for this country if they drive PUMA into the shadows.
Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) said he’s open to speaking at the Republican National Convention in September if presumptive GOP nominee John McCain asks him.
“I want to help him. I’m not going to attack Obama. I am going to explain why I, as an independent democrat, support McCain, hoping that I can convince other independents and Democrats to join me in choosing the man who is clearly more ready to be the president America needs today,” Lieberman said on “Fox News Sunday.”
Asked whether he would make a speech even if Democrats kick him out of their caucus, Lieberman replied: “I’m going to do what’s right for the country and not worry about the politics. And John McCain is definitely right for the country as our next president.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11892.html
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Obama it seems your thug tactic is not going to work with Lieberman
shryani — Good for Old Lieberman. I like seeing someone with the courage of their convictions. I think I was wrong about so many things as I watched MSNBC and refused to watch Fox. I was angry with Lieberman for going against the party. Now I realize Fox is the only news channel that presents our side and Lieberman is the only Democrat who stands against this Forced UNITY.
What’s his basis for stating “our nation is less secure”? I was home on 9-11-2001, about 20 blocks north of the Twin Towers. Like many of my fellow New Yorkers, I have yet to “get over” that day. But, I haven’t seen anything like that in our country since that day, and I am grateful for that. So what does he mean when he says “out nation is less secure” and what facts does he base that on?
As for his his various civilian corps, sounds like he’s creating a giant “my space” with profiles of everyone in a giant data base. He wants to know our activities, our talents, our preferences, our schedules. He wants to “match us up” with “the right volunteer efforts” and harness us into a giant effort to carry out his agenda for us. He knows best for us? I don’t think so.
“Barack Obama will make you work.” — Michelle Obama
She forgot to add “… for no pay.”
Wake up, America. Do not vote this man into office. Or our “freedom” can vanish overnight and we’ll wake up into a nightmare.
Whose platform is this:
We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens.
The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically.
Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes.
We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest.
The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious citizen to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions.
We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press.
Moving to next thread…settings are OK there.
Breaking news from the BBC
Read more…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7516238.stm
This is so disgusting this, barbaric.
In Panama It was called the dignity battalions.
You know I have gone through alot in my almost 60 years here on earth and as a native born American.
I can remember thinking that I might not ever make it to adulthood due to the cold war and Cuban Crisis. I lived in an area within reach of the Cuban missiles.
I can also remember seeing our President in a small motorcade and then hearing about his assasination the next day. Yet while we were in the lunch room some idiot girl ran through yelling “Yea they shot Kennedy.”
The 50s and 60s were filled with many other events that made many of us worry about the safety of our county.
Yet we still Truly believed that our government officials would keep us safe.
Since the 50s and 60s much has been done to ensure that we are one of most culturally diverse, yet progressive nations in the world. Much has been done to ensure that we are a nation to be Reckoned with. Yet strange as it may seem its been mostly in the last few years(not 8 years) that America’s immage has been going down the toliet.
What has changed in the last few years. Lets see the Democrats took control of congress, we escalated the war in Iraq, gas prices have shot out of site and etc. Oh did I forget to mention this one black man who came upon the scene this year.
Many of us look at our government officials in a different way; probably in a more untrusting way, not to mention how we now view African Americans (cant forget Wright messages).
This election has been and is one of the most terrifying elections I have ever seen. Its not just picking the better of the two idiots. Its praying that the devil himself does not end up in the oval office so that all that America is and was isnt destroyed.
I have read and seen much on the internet. I have noticed along with many how much of it just suddenly disappears.
I truly hope that someone is keeping backups of this and all the other garbage that the Obama campaign has sprewed and is now trying to hide.
JMHO
why dont you keep backups? you are an american arent you? why does someone else need to do it?
This is now bigger than Hillary, she may ask us but yes we are adults and will make our own wise choice…
Lets just be strong we do not have to get in line as the line is off course in a BIG WAY…
The DNC needs to get the line straight no off shoots A FINE TRUE LINE TO THE WHITEHOUSE
NOBAMA NO WAY NEVER
This is no longer a national issue. We have international forces influencing this election. Some group(s) are pulling Obama’s strings.
tish I wish I had the capacity to and the knowledge of how to. I’m one of the Americans now just barely making a living due to cutbacks and layoffs.
Luckily all my children are grown and our house is paid off. My husband and I feel very lucky that we have what we have and live where we do.
He’s planning to cut funding for the military (or so he has said) and divert all kinds of money to make a new branch called the Civilian National Security Force. (Got to control your own before you can control the world.)
His new army is the “jobs” he’s promising his supporters.
And he is going to allow woman into his Republican Guard just lower pay.
What year did this guy go to law school? Back in the 80’s, $2K could get you a pretty decent used car.
America wake up! This man is very much a serious threat to our democracy!
Ok the boxes above are empty with a red x sadly – were they videos or pics?
either way- OT
Do ya think any of these Fathers/pedophiles were ever Hillary supporters? I think not.
Are we living in the 1800’s ?
Comment by s. hall | 2008-07-20 14:25:00
Ok guys — now that you’re got me totally terrified of a Fascist takeover. Here are some things which would have to occur first because I am not sure that the people who surround Obama think they can pull this off. Republican President Bush still runs every agency of this government–would he or the FBI go along with Obama as a Dictator? Then we have McCain who would have to dog it big time and insult the millions of Democrats who are crossing over to vote for him–he will not do that. He loves this country and its people too much. This man was tortured for 5 years and he still didn’t give in.
While I do agree that Obama has been forced on us as Democrats I also believe that the party is worried that with Obama they may have pissed in their chips and could lose it all in November. Remember the criticism from Washington Democrats that Obama is an arrogant SOB who will not work with them–who has dissed the down ticket Democrats and who doesn’t return Pelosi and Dean’s calls.
The DNC is trying to mitigate a huge defeat in Nov. by claiming complete support of the Democrats for this candidate, even though without the support of Indies and Republicans they cannot win. But as the days and weeks go by its getting more and more obvious that even with all the media support and the support of the DNC bigwigs PUMA is winning and the American people will not support Obama. We are on the winning side guys. If we weren’t winning why do they spend so much time worrying about us? PUMA
For all the naysayers about Puma it sure is causing a stir.
Onward and upward!
PUMA
Very kind of you to post the transcript of Barack Obama’s July 2, 2008 Colorado Springs speech in its entirety. I’ve always thought it an effective and inspirational presentation.
I don’t know, but I think I’ll wait for Senator Obama to clarify the point himself. I’m inclined to think he may be suggesting the we, as citizen civilians, have some degree of personal responsibility for the security of our own homes, neighborhoods, towns, and our country itself. We–civilians–are not to think of ourselves as sheep, totally reliant upon the distant and often ineffective instruments of governmental and military bureaucracy for our safety and protection. Is this thought really so shocking? Look how effectively those remote bureaucracies handled the New Orleans situation. Eventually we had Blackwater contractors cruising the streets carrying automatic weapons.
I just saw on the news yesterday that the Illinois National Guard and the Illinois State Police may be sent to Chicago because violent crime is spinning out of control. This is an appalling thought: a military presence on the streets of a major American city, because crime and random violence have reached unprecedented levels.
I don’t know where Obama is headed with this idea of a civilian security force, but I won’t reject the idea out of hand until I hear the details.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for details, after all Obama is all about ambiguous statements so that everyone can interpret them and “agree” with them. And the fact this little part suffered the same faith as the Auschwitz comment and was cut off the transcript implies it’s once again something the Obama campaign wants to whitewash and Obama needs to backtrack.
I’m interested in your theory though. Obama talks about funding Civilian National Security Force as much as the army. This is far bigger than “personal responsibility” in my opinion. Besides this man is, or should I say WAS, against guns, which many see as a way to defend yourself/your fanmily/your property and take that “personal responsibility”.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
The Constitution denies the Federal Government the right to use its military on its own soil for a REASON! To keep the government from forcing its people into obedience. Obama has given ample, I MEAN AMPLE examples of his position on this matter. His ‘guns and religion’ comment is a direct reflection of this. People who have religion, or faith, do not make themselves amenable to revolutionary thought. In fact they are against it. In order to enforce policies on people, you have to be able to force them to do things. Ownership of guns, oddly provided for by the founding fathers who saw the potential for this to occur, makes forcing us to do things damnably hard. You’d need a National Internal Military Force and sweeping legislation to do it. Does it start to make sense now?
File this under
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
The Constitution doesn’t do this. A Congressional Act does.
They messed around with that particular Congressional Act with the 2007 Defense Authorization Bill, signed into law last October. All 50 of the nation’s state governors strongly objected.
Provisions of the Insurrection Act of 1807 were changed. The president is now empowered to take over control of the National Guard from state governors not just in the event of insurrection, but in times of “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident.”
The “or incident” part seems a little vague, and potentially open to broad interpretation. Essentially it puts the president in a position to unilaterally take command of a domestic military force at his (or her) discretion.
Yes, this is really why the DNC forced Obama on the ticket. He’s their puppet. They want total power, that’s why they didn’t impeach Bush. Now they can grab all that expanded executive power.
This is an appalling thought: a military presence on the streets of a major American city, because crime and random violence have reached unprecedented levels.
No offense intended here but what I do not get is you are going to wait around until BO decides to tell you “what I meant was”…
I don’t know about you but I would be making tracks. Maybe you were Casey Jones in another life and you are still gonna hang around for the coming train wreck. Sure as BO is clueless.
sorry for repeating this but I think it is that important and in keeping with this peice, perhaps his private police are to keep him in power for the 10 years he plans to be in:
no he plans to eliminate electocracy, they r such a pain, see Powers comments here:
Obama has talked a lot about the importance of moving away from electocracy,” she says, trying to move on to more comfortable territory, and suggesting that the way people actually live is more important than the “reification of elections”.
“In terms of how radical the shift will be, I think it’s very hard. There’s going to be a huge foreign service and civil service that he will inherit, senators and congressmen who have already been elected. So I think he is one guy, trying to steer this ship of cacophonous agendas into a new place.”
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2008/03/barack-obama-interview-power
Does this say that the radical shift will be from elections to appointments by the “one”? Or am I misintrepreting the statement by Ms. Powers?
thats how I take it!!
jeebus crispies!
Obama is setting us up now for another war.Now we will have three wars.If you think that we will leave Iraq,You have another thing coming.Obama said this and That.I fear that we americas are going to be used in anything to get us killed.While many are shiped of to wars leaving our country here so he can have his terrorist come in and take over U.S.A .Look I have a deep feeling not only all the money he will say he spend sure in a overseas account somewhere.and while he wants the power as othe countrs has over the people.Obama wants controll of U.S.A we have our children to protect our country to protect.He said he was going to deweaponized spce and get us off the alert list.He was going to get rid of all our protection.Wake uip.He hasn’t even gave his birth certificate yet. Who has been coming into our goverment.
Obama was to busy playing chair man he couldn’t even do oversight,He didn’t even go to Iraq nowhere.He was to busy running around grabing money from anyone and anywhere including from our goverment.He stole from our goverment.
He will not show his birth certificate. I saw here on anothe noquarter where you can call someone and they will give you all the information how to file suit to get his birth certificate.I believe before Aug 1,
We need to all do this.Some one find the number so we can do this.There was a pettition site but,she got death threats.IT closed down.
We need to right Bush as well.But really I think Bush Nancy Peliso-Donna Brazile-Howard Dean and Obama are all in this .
We need Hillary or McCain
It sounds like a DRAFT to me
Not quite sure what happened to videos but they are on my blog.
Obama’s National Civilian Security Force
I’ll try to get Susan to fix them.
c-
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Chapter and verse, please. We need proof. Did you say The Denver Post, 2 July 08?? What did other papers say about said speech?
Does he propose adding to the already heavy police presence or is he proposing a new Federal Militia? Remember, Uncle Sam can call back all veterans under 65 if need be.
Do know that if the worst is true, it’s a godsend to the various and sundry militias throughout the USA, not to mention every hate group that’s under the rocks. Gun running will be as big as drugs and bigger, badder guns will be available. Add to that explosives, anti tank and anti aircraft armaments.
I prefer however to believe it means more cops. the poloce tend to be more loyal to the people than to the state. Ditto for the military.
Roodog
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